[00:08] <clifter> What is terminal command to see what version Ubuntu you are working in?
[00:24] <DJJeff> try cat /etc/*release
[00:24] <DJJeff> or also try cat /etc/issue
[00:25] <DJJeff> or leave the channel before an answer works too
[01:04] <GridCube> DJJeff, for the future its lsb_releas
[01:04] <GridCube> lsb_release
[01:04] <GridCube> :)
[01:05] <DJJeff> my works too
[01:05] <GridCube> P:
[01:54] <xubuntu330> hi, there! does anyone know how to install Tor or any other Onion browser under Xubuntu?
[01:57] <ObrienDave> yes, go to the TOR web site and follow the instructions
[01:58] <Unit193> !tor
[01:59] <ObrienDave> just remember, configuring TOR as an exit relay will get you banned from freenode
[02:00] <Unit193> (exit node)  Though you can connect to Freenode over Tor, as long as you auth with SASL.
[02:01] <xubuntu330> thanks! that was sweet!
[02:02] <Yowl> anyone here?
[02:02] <xubuntu330> many people here!
[02:02] <xubuntu330> I am from Brazil. Sao Paulo. www.ufscar.br
[02:02] <ObrienDave> xubuntu330... if you really want to do it right, go get T.A.I.L.S.
[02:03] <xubuntu330> what is TAILS?
[02:03] <ObrienDave> The Amnesic Incognito Live System. runs off a bootable USB. VERY secure
[02:04] <xubuntu330> How do I get it?
[02:04] <ObrienDave> https://tails.boum.org/
[02:05] <ObrienDave> uses Onion also
[02:05] <xubuntu330> cool! I will check it out! thanks!
[02:05] <ObrienDave> welcome
[02:05] <xubuntu330> :-) cheers from Brazil!
[02:09] <Yowl> Is xubuntus release usually or always behind ubuntus?
[02:10] <Yowl> Or do they often or always come out at the same time?
[02:10] <xubuntu330> they come out almost at the same time
[02:11] <xubuntu330> ubuntu comes first then followed by its different flavors
[02:16] <ObrienDave> as soon as the main mirrors get populated, they will announce the release
[02:34] <xubuntu786> hi
[02:36] <ObrienDave> yes?
[02:42] <Yowl> Anyone know about LVM?
[02:43] <ObrienDave> didn't you get enough info on the other channel?
[02:44] <Yowl> I ask because I need information
[03:43] <gdos> using the locate command, how would i pipe the output of locate through the cp (copy) command and copy all occurences of, say for example, *.mp3 located on my hard-drive to a directory specified by me (~\me\mp3)?
[03:55] <Gumby> for i in $( find /home/terryr/.cache/shotwell/ -name '*.mp3' ); do cp -v $i ~/me/mp3; done
[03:55] <Gumby> something like that, of course with the find path changed
[03:56] <Gumby> I think this has issues with filenames with quotes, spaces etc
[03:58] <gdos> Gumby: could i pipe the output of locate to cp?
[04:10] <Gumby> I wouldnt bother with a pipe, just use the example I gave but with locate instead
[04:12] <gdos> Gumby: like this? for i in $( locate '*.mp3' ); do cp -v $i ~/me/mp3
[04:12] <Gumby> yup
[04:13] <Gumby> again, you'll have issues with folders that have spaces and special characters though
[04:14] <Gumby> I think you can double ' the $i to get past that, I can't 100% remember though
[04:15] <gdos> Gumby: i get this error: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `;'
[04:15] <Gumby> you forgot the ; done
[04:27] <gdos> Gumby: got it working. thanks.
[04:30] <Gumby> good job, and you're welcome
[05:01] <gdos> what's a good, small (i.e. small memory small screensize) mp3/ogg player?
[07:58] <toros> happy xubuntu release day for everyone!
[08:21] <xabster> When I want to resize windows it's really hard to hit the corners... solution?
[08:22] <xabster> there is like a 1-pixel area that i have to hit
[08:28] <elfy> xabster: can be a bit tricky - which is why I don't do it that way - have a look here http://xubuntu.org/news/window-resizing-in-xubuntu-and-xfce/
[08:30] <ObrienDave> ! Isitout
[08:30] <elfy> xabster: personally I find the alt+right click+ drag method easiest
[08:30] <ObrienDave> !42
[08:30] <elfy> ObrienDave: can you go and play with the bot in -offtopic please
[08:31] <Unit193> (or -bots)
[08:31] <elfy> or anywhere but here
[08:37] <xabster> elfy, ill see if i can get used to it, but seems very nice
[08:38] <elfy> easier to get used to that than fight trying to do it the other way :)
[09:11] <mjayk> Haya all, I want xubuntu 13.10 and i cant seam to find an ISO for it. As a fix I used ubuntu 13.10 and apt-get install xubuntu-desktop anyone know of a straight 13.10 iso ?
[09:12] <elfy> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/305/builds
[09:12] <elfy> you can get it from there - and at the same time you can test it for us :)
[09:13] <elfy> but it's not actually released yet
[09:14] <mjayk> elfy: thanks will download that now and install it tonight
[09:14] <mjayk> i dont like installing a new desktop after installing an os it feels like it should be bloated
[09:19] <xabster> I can list a serial port with my custom program located at /dev/ttyS0 -- how do I check which kind of hardware registered that ?
[09:20] <ObrienDave> You can get the beta2 release from  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/saucy/beta-2/
[09:20] <xabster> nevermind :)
[09:21] <mjayk> ObrienDave: dont have access to a web browser atm is there a daily xubuntu ? (im new to xfce :) )
[12:05] <perlsyntax> Does anyone know if there going to be a new xbuntu like in linux mint?
[12:06] <Unit193> A new xubuntu what?
[12:06] <cfhowlett> perlsyntax, ???? yes, xubuntu 13.10
[12:06] <perlsyntax> xcfe desktop
[12:07] <Unit193> What version does it have?
[12:07] <cfhowlett> perlsyntax, xfce updates on their own schedule, so yes at some point
[12:07] <Unit193> !info xfce4 saucy
[12:07] <Sysi> !mint
[12:07] <perlsyntax> i rem it has 9.10
[12:08] <perlsyntax> i think
[12:08] <Unit193> There has never been a version "9.10" of Xfce.
[12:08] <perlsyntax> how do i look up what verion i have
[12:09] <bgardner> perlsyntax: Run xfce4-about
[12:12] <perlsyntax> in the seach tool you mean.
[12:12] <cfhowlett> perlsyntax, run it in a terminal
[12:12] <bgardner> perlsyntax: I actually meant at a command prompt
[12:13] <perlsyntax> 4.10
[12:14] <perlsyntax> that must be the new one that out.
[12:14] <perlsyntax> will Xbuntu come with 4.10 in 13.10?
[12:15] <cfhowlett> !saucy|perlsyntax,
[12:15] <perlsyntax> sorry i asked.
[12:16] <cfhowlett> perlsyntax, no need to be.  details at the other channel.
[12:16] <gdos> what's a good, small (i.e. small memory small screensize) mp3/ogg player?
[12:16] <cfhowlett> gdos, mplayer
[12:17] <Sysi> audacious is more graphical
[12:26] <gdos> so whats the difference between mplayer and mplayer2?
[12:26] <baizon> gdos: http://www.mplayer2.org/differences/
[12:27] <gdos> thanks baizon
[12:28] <qwertz__> will 13.10 still be using xscreensaver?
[12:30] <cfhowlett> !saucy|qwertz_,
[12:44] <gdos> cfhowlett: i'm sure xubuntu will but what about ubuntu: doesn't ubuntu use the gnome-screensaver?
[12:48] <cfhowlett> gdos, gnome was replaced by unity.  seek no gnome here.
[12:54] <qwertz__> my question is purely about aesthetics: i simply don't like how xscreensaver looks
[12:55] <cfhowlett> qwertz_, understood.  there are alternatives.  not sure it's worth it to attempt to shoehorn gnome into xubuntu ...
[12:55] <gdos> qwertz_ it looks different on every system. even suse uses xscreensaver 5.20 whilst xubuntu 13.04 uses xscreensaver 5.15 - still can't figure out why.
[12:56] <gdos> i prefer xubuntu but wish it would use xscreensaver 5.20
[12:57] <gdos> *BRB*
[13:04] <qwertz__> yeah, sneaking gnome in doesn't really seem to be an alternative
[13:09] <Sysi> I think xscreensaver might've been replaced with lightlocker
[13:09] <cfhowlett> Sysi, xscreensave on 12.04 ...
[13:46] <FiremanEd> !bug 1208204
[13:56] <Hunter1> Hi everyone was wondering if I update beta 2 does that make it the same as the final release?
[13:57] <qwertz__> Hunter1,  yes
[13:58] <qwertz__> how's upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 going? did anyone try yet? how smooth did it go?
[13:58] <Hunter1> hey qwertz thanks for that.... Thought I might have to download the final version
[13:59] <qwertz__> Hunter1,  no, you're fine
[14:00] <qwertz__> i'm waiting for the first upgrade experiences to pop up on the internet
[14:01] <Hunter1> I'm finding it a great release except for the volume icon in the taskbar.. I click on it and there is no menu
[14:01] <elfy>  known issue Hunter1 - it's on the release notes
[14:01] <Hunter1> Cheers for that elfy
[14:02] <elfy> Hunter1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1208204
[14:05] <Hunter1> thanks elfy I'll try that working around and see how it goes
[14:05] <Hunter1> anyone tried ubuntu phone yet?
[14:08] <qwertz__> Hunter1,  is there a phone yet?
[14:09] <qwertz__> i'm looking into buying a new smartphone
[14:09] <qwertz__> so far, i as waiting for google's nexus 5
[14:09] <Hunter1> sorry I meant the version 1.0 of ubuntu touch.... if you've got a nexus 4 you can install it
[14:09] <Hunter1> it came out today as well
[14:09] <qwertz__> but i'd be happy to go for a firefox os/ubuntu phone instead - if it rivals the nexus hardware-wise
[14:10] <Hunter1> haven't had much to do with the firefox os.... haven't seen alot of it here in Aus
[14:11] <Hunter1> the nexus 5 will be a fantastic bit of hardware
[14:14] <qwertz__> i'm happy to replace android
[14:14] <qwertz__> let's see how much of a hassle that'll be on the nexus 5
[14:27] <RJ45> every 12 hours or-so, my whole system freezes completely, not even '[CTRL] + [ALT] + [F1]' does anything, not even SysRq keys!, just completely freezes! not even any lights on the keyboard., this is a new desktop build and I have done everything I can possibly do to ensure all hardware is as stable as possible, even updated the BIOS!, I've tried everything, I wanna be SURE if it's an OS problem or a Hardware problem, the total non-responsiveness
[14:27] <RJ45>  leads me to believe it's a Hardware problem, but I have done literally everything even remotely possible to ensure all hardware is okay.
[14:28] <RJ45> motherboard doesn't report of any clocking problems, and not a single thing is overclocked.
[14:29] <RJ45> (Xubuntu 12.04.3), so, what could be wrong?
[14:32] <cfhowlett> rj45 EVERY 12 hours?  Of course, we suspect clock ... somehow.  could it be hardware?  A UPS reset/powerdown/ something else?
[14:33] <RJ45> well, it's not exactly on that time, sometimes 3 hours, sometimes 6 hours, it's kinda random
[14:34] <RJ45> no UPS being used, PSU is one of best money can buy
[14:34] <RJ45> Memtest reports everything's okay too.
[14:36] <RJ45> Hardware: mobo = Asus F2A85-M, cpu = AMD A10 6700, ram =  2x4GB Crucial Balistix (1866MHz but auto under-clocks to 1333MHz for motherboard compatibility), ssd = Samsung 840 EVO 128GB
[14:37] <RJ45> mobo's BIOS was updated to latest BIOS.
[14:38] <RJ45> I'm just at my wits-end here!, it could be a number of problems.. but I've tried everything!  X_X
[14:38] <RJ45> I'm a freakin' IT Techie!, I LIVE computers! 0_0
[14:40] <cub> RJ45: how about overheating?
[14:40] <Sysi> are you using propietary graphics driver?
[14:40] <RJ45> cub: as far as I can tell, all cooling is 100% perfect
[14:41] <RJ45> Sysi: yes, I have-to, otherwise all graphics are f*cky, the AMD Catalyst driver for APU's built-in GPU
[14:43] <RJ45> the hours when it's not freezing-up, it all works beautifully, under any load I put it under.
[14:44] <cub> this sound familiar or someone else is having the same issue
[14:44] <RJ45> hmm
[14:44] <cub> RJ45: you come here often? ;)
[14:44] <RJ45> cub: nope
[14:45] <RJ45> when it's not freezing-up completely, everything works, oh so beautifully, like a well oiled ****** :P
[14:46] <RJ45> but seriously, I have-to live with this computer for many many years every day, I gotta find a solution to these total freeze-ups!
[14:47] <Sysi> please put output of »cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log« to paste.ubuntu.com
[14:53] <RJ45> http://pastebin.com/30h8zn2H
[14:53] <RJ45> Sysi: ^^^
[14:56] <Sysi> hum, no errors or even warnings
[14:57] <RJ45> yup, I doubt it's any problem with X, as when the freeze happens, I can't even '[CTRL] + [ALT] + [F1/2/3/4/5/6...]'
[14:58] <RJ45> and 'SysRq keys' do nothing.
[14:58] <Sysi> but x logs could indicate driver problem
[14:58] <RJ45> ah, okay
[14:58] <Sysi> next check out dmesg
[14:58] <RJ45> by typing?..
[14:59] <Sysi> dmesg ;)
[14:59] <RJ45> lol, okay sir :3
[15:02] <RJ45> http://pastebin.com/SBbZvJ7Z
[15:02] <RJ45> Sysi: ^^^
[15:10] <RJ45> ...is it bad? o.o
[15:15] <Sysi> can't see anything too bad there either..
[15:16] <RJ45> hmmm
[15:17] <RJ45> this really is a tough nut x_x
[15:17] <RJ45> why is it saying "[    3.398314] Too many HDMI devices" a few times? o.o
[15:18] <Sysi> no idea
[15:18] <RJ45> mobo has 1 built-in HDMI port, and I'm just using 1 VGA monitor! XD
[15:18] <RJ45> invisible HDMI devices eh?
[15:23] <RJ45> Sysi: this *could* be a hardware problem, but I really doubt it, all hardware's set-up as stable as humanly possible!
[15:25] <RJ45> Sysi: if it's any help at-all to diagnosis, I can paste the output of ANYTHING!
[15:26] <RJ45> Sysi: please, by all means don't hesitate to ask for info :)
[15:29] <Sysi> sorry, but I don't really have more ideas
[15:31] <RJ45> sudo lshw:  http://pastebin.com/78NzmGEf
[15:31] <RJ45> sudo dmidecode:   http://pastebin.com/bn4Szcqj
[15:31] <RJ45> ..just in-case
[15:33] <RJ45> even if it so-happens to be a hardware problem, if I could at-least identify exactly what hardware's at fault!
[16:01] <xabster> Mjello, did anyone do the upgrade from 13.04?
[16:02] <xabster> I'm scared, please be my guinea pig
[16:05] <gdos> how can i view the system book scripts? for some reason also is not loading at boot so i find myself typing the command 'sudo also force-reload' each time i login.
[16:12] <DJJeff> Thunar does not support connections to sftp or ssh yet?
[16:13] <olbi> what do you mean, DJJeff?
[16:13] <olbi> which version do you use?
[16:14] <DJJeff> 1.6.3
[16:14] <DJJeff> is that not the latest?
[16:15] <olbi> hmm, it should be but in 1.6.2 it works fine, ssh://IP/direcotry
[16:15] <DJJeff> hrmmm causes my Thunar to crash
[16:15] <DJJeff> is it because I run Thunar as the root user
[16:17] <GridCube> yes
[16:18] <DJJeff> why am I not allowed to run Thunar as root and have my ssh and eat it too
[16:18]  * GridCube doesnt know
[16:18] <DJJeff> that was a joke see...... have my cake and eat it too
[16:19] <DJJeff> say I want to ssh into a server as root and copy and paste files into my local root folder
[16:19] <DJJeff> but nooooooooo only Nautilus can do that
[16:20] <DJJeff> everyone bow down to the all might Nautilus
[16:20] <DJJeff> Nautilus looks ugly and lame in GTK3
[16:21] <DJJeff> they are trying to copy apple in some fashion
[16:21] <DJJeff> and failing hard at it
[16:23] <DJJeff> It does not have to be pretty and colourful just need it to work so I can be productive
[16:54] <xubuntu817> What's up guys
[16:54] <xubuntu817> I am from asia and my xubuntu installation is in progress :)
[16:55] <xubuntu817> Guys...
[16:55] <xubuntu817> is there anybody in there ?
[16:55] <xubuntu817> O.o
[16:55] <elfy> yep
[16:55] <xubuntu817> Is it only me ? alone :O
[16:55] <xubuntu817> aww yeah.. finaly :D
[16:56] <elfy> if you want offtopic chat then please join #xubuntu-offtopic
[16:57] <xubuntu817> But how ? I am new to this whole thing brah. my xubuntu installtion is in progress. I've clicked a link and suddenly firefox window appeard. :) that's how I am in here.
[16:59] <xubuntu817> Oh got it.
[16:59] <xubuntu817> thank ya.
[17:00] <gdos> how can i view the system book scripts? for some reason also is not loading at boot so i find myself typing the command 'sudo also force-reload' each time i login.
[17:08] <xubuntu817> dunno brah
[17:54] <m2kk> Got an update today "Xubuntu base - 267kB" this is suppose to up my version to 13.10?
[17:55] <elfy> it'll be an update to 13.10
[17:56] <m2kk> Yeah it came after 267kB
[17:56] <Poisoned_Dragon> Anyone here use plank?
[17:57] <m2kk> hey, do we get any packages for unity ? or is unity completely stripped from xubuntu?
[17:57] <Poisoned_Dragon> Unity is the default DE for Ubuntu. I would imagine that most of the Unity components are out of Xubuntu
[17:58] <ronsonol> I wish *ubuntu upgrades were less rude about existing package configuration. grrr.
[17:58] <m2kk> I have no idea what im doing
[17:59] <ronsonol> But one example, xfburn removed from netbook because there's no cd burner.  Upgrade reinstalls it.
[18:00] <Poisoned_Dragon> lol, I've been there.
[18:00] <Poisoned_Dragon> It's probably because of the meta-package.
[18:00] <Poisoned_Dragon> The upgrade process just follows the grocery list that's put in front of it.
[18:00] <Poisoned_Dragon> For better, or for worse
[18:03] <GridCube> m2kk, type: do-release-upgrade -d
[18:03] <GridCube> in a terminal
[18:03] <elfy> m2 what version are you actually running?
[18:03] <m2kk> GridCube, i got the regular update now with 700 packages to install and thousand to upgrade lol
[18:04] <elfy> aah - ignore me then :)
[18:04] <m2kk> elfy, 13.04 im running
[18:05] <GridCube> m2kk, that sounds about right
[18:05] <m2kk> GridCube, i sure hope so
[18:08] <phil4321> hey there, currently installing 13.10 and running into serious troubles
[18:09] <m2kk> phil4321, sudo apt-delete serious-troubles
[18:09] <SonikkuAmerica> [ sudo apt-get purge serious-troubles
[18:09] <SonikkuAmerica> ]
[18:09] <phil4321> manual setup with LUKS and LVM2, can't boot into the system and the live-usb lvm cant detect any vg/pv/lv's
[18:10] <ronsonol> sudo apt-get solve world-problems
[18:10] <phil4321> sudo apt-get install 42 :P
[18:11] <Poisoned_Dragon> the package "42" requires additional packages: "destroy-earth" Proceed with install? y/N
[18:12] <phil4321> capital letter YES
[18:12] <Poisoned_Dragon> lol
[18:14] <phil4321> another interesting thing is the skip button when downloading updates (which i disselected), it doesn't skip, it shows details
[18:15] <phil4321> and it is not the repo on the usb, no lights blinking there
[18:19] <phil4321> any hints on luks with lvm?
[18:27] <bekks> phil4321: so whats your specific question then?
[18:28] <phil4321> well, how do i recover lvm lv's from a non-bootable installation?
[18:29] <phil4321> pvscan/lvscan/vgscan gives no results
[18:44] <Yowl> Is there a way with this DE to attach a image to a folder so it shows on top of it? (shrunk of course)
[18:50] <knome> Yowl, yes, use the emblems
[18:52] <Yowl> knome: Are emblems preset images to pick from, or can I use any image I want from my hard drive?
[18:53] <knome> they are preset, but it is possible to create an icon theme that inherits the regular icon theme and in addition to it, adds more emblems
[18:55] <Yowl> knome: I didn't understand what you said about the icon theme, what if I don't want to add more emblems, I just want to add a image to a particular folder? Or could I add it to emblems, add said image to a folder, delete it from emblems, and have it still show on that folder?
[18:56] <knome> there is no way to have pictures as emblems unless they are emblems in the icon theme
[18:57] <Yowl> And no way to add pictures to icons without them being emblems knome?
[18:57] <Yowl> I mean images to folders
[18:58] <knome> as i said, no.
[18:59] <Yowl> knome: Is emblems part of the xubuntu DE? Or is this how all the ubuntu distros work? Or put another way, is there a DE that can do this?
[19:00] <knome> Yowl, i don't know about other ubuntu flavors. emblems are usually handled in the file manager (thunar for xubuntu) though, so installing another file manager might be a solution
[19:00] <Sysi> you can use different filemanager with xfce
[19:03] <Yowl> Sysi: Is xfce what xubuntu uses?
[19:05] <Sysi> yup
[19:06] <Yowl> Sysi: Are there any file managers incompatible with any DE's or distros?
[19:06] <Yowl> Or is that not a issue?
[19:10] <Yowl> Sysi: ?
[19:10] <Sysi> shouldn't be
[19:13] <Yowl> Sysi: Is it possible there is a file manager that stores the image for the folders, in that folder? I don't want to do a bunch of work assigning images, only to have it be undone because I changed distros. And I don't want certain images seen by certain people borrowing my PC.
[19:14] <Sysi> sorry but I don't know, I use thunar (xubuntu default)
[19:16] <Yowl> Sysi:  Know of a good place to get a list of file managers or more information about them?
[19:23] <Poisoned_Dragon> Anyone know how to make a gpg key?
[19:24] <Pici> !gpg | Poisoned_Dragon
[19:25] <Poisoned_Dragon> Thank you. :)
[19:27] <Yowl> Sysi: You are sure the emblem feature is part of the file manage, and not independent of it?
[19:48] <Bosi> Hello everyone, does anyone knows how to activate the "hibernate" option on 13.10? Thanks,
[19:48] <bekks> Bosi: You're crossposting, arent you?
[19:49] <Bosi> bekks, what?
[19:54] <ultim8> Hi. I need an advice pls. Atm nvidia-304 is activated but the nvidia-319 is the recommended. Should i use the 319?
[19:57] <Poisoned_Dragon> What's your gpu model?
[19:57] <Poisoned_Dragon> Mine is this....
[19:57] <Poisoned_Dragon> Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA G84 [GeForce 8600 GT]
[19:57] <Poisoned_Dragon>            X.Org 1.14.3 drivers nvidia (unloaded: fbdev,vesa,nouveau) Resolution 1024x768@60.0hz
[19:57] <Poisoned_Dragon>            GLX Renderer GeForce 8600 GT/PCIe/SSE2 GLX Version 3.3.0 NVIDIA 319.32
[19:57] <Poisoned_Dragon> And that seems to work with 319 just fine.
[19:57] <ultim8> Poisoned_Dragon, how do i check? Sorry, i'm newbie.
[19:59] <Poisoned_Dragon> Well, I use inxi. You'll have to use lspci. So... type in terminal: lspci | grep VGA
[20:02] <ultim8> Poisoned_Dragon, http://pastebin.com/Cdx4JucX
[20:05] <ultim8> Poisoned_Dragon, are u here?
[20:06] <Poisoned_Dragon> one sec
[20:06] <Poisoned_Dragon> Oh geez, ultim8! Your card is far newer than mine! lol
[20:06] <Poisoned_Dragon> If I can run 319, your pc can do it standing on it's top.
[20:07] <ultim8> Poisoned_Dragon, so okey... i'm switching to 319, reboot?
[20:08] <ultim8> Poisoned_Dragon, i got nvidia-319 {recommended) and nvidia-319-updates.. Pick the first?
[20:08] <Poisoned_Dragon> Not the updates
[20:08] <Poisoned_Dragon> just the recommended
[20:08] <Poisoned_Dragon> then reboot when it tells you to.
[20:08] <ultim8> Poisoned_Dragon, ty.. Brb
[20:09] <ChogyDan> are there release notes for xubuntu?
[20:11] <elfy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseNotes/Xubuntu
[20:11] <ChogyDan> well, at least the indicator sound issue is listed, but I'm sad it is still broke :(
[20:12] <ultim8> ChogyDan, what indicator sound? 0_x
[20:15] <ultim8> Poisoned_Dragon, i'm back. How can i check that my driver is working properly?
[20:15] <Poisoned_Dragon> ChogyDan, there is a fix for that.
[20:15] <Poisoned_Dragon> one sec.
[20:15] <jouke> So I received this distribtion-upgrade window and I told it to upgrade, but now its blank.
[20:16] <Poisoned_Dragon> jouke, I just did it from terminal. It was faster.
[20:16] <ChogyDan> Poisoned_Dragon: I'm aware of the fix listed in the bug report.  It stopped working for me at some point
[20:16] <jouke> Poisoned_Dragon: congratulations.
[20:16] <jouke> How can I tell if I can just reboost?
[20:16] <elfy> ChogyDan: if there's an update then you'd need to redo the change to the file
[20:17] <jouke> *reboot
[20:19] <Poisoned_Dragon> ChogyDan, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1208204
[20:19] <Poisoned_Dragon> read comment 5
[20:20] <ultim8> Poisoned_Dragon, i'm back. How can i check that my driver is working properly?
[20:22] <ChogyDan> Poisoned_Dragon: I know, I do know about the fix, and I have applied it before.  But, I used to be able to do it manually: kill indicator-sound-service, ./indicator-sound-service in the /usr/lib/i386 etc etc directory
[20:24] <xubuntu559> hi
[20:24] <Poisoned_Dragon> Oh, I dunno that one, ChogyDan
[20:24] <Poisoned_Dragon> ultim8, run glxgears in terminal
[20:24] <ChogyDan> ultim8: you can also run `sudo lshw -C video` and see what it lists as the driver
[20:25] <xubuntu559> I am having trouble with the software centre I can not find skype or steam, does xubuntu not share the ubuntu repos?
[20:25] <bekks> Poisoned_Dragon: glxgears does not tell you anything. It uses the CPU, entirely.
[20:25] <bekks> ultim8: Just pastebin the Xorg.0.log :)
[20:26] <Poisoned_Dragon> Really? I thought it would fail id the driver wasn't working properly.
[20:26] <ultim8> bekks, ChogyDan Poisoned_Dragon http://pastebin.com/vdn28LCv
[20:27] <ChogyDan> ultim8: you are running the nvidia driver *shrug*  :)
[20:27] <Poisoned_Dragon> heh
[20:27] <ultim8> ChogyDan, good to know :D
[20:27] <ultim8> gr8
[20:27] <Poisoned_Dragon> That's why I like inxi
[20:27] <Poisoned_Dragon> It's faster to find out
[20:27] <ultim8> well.. not i can start using xubuntu.. learning :D
[20:28] <ultim8> now* :D
[20:28] <ultim8> ty for the help guys. i'm sure it wasn't my last time :D
[20:28] <xubuntu395> Hi, I have an issu with LO Writer : it closes sometimes, sudently, when I work on it (Xu 13.04, LOW 4.0.2.2) : any idea ?
[20:30] <well_laid_lawn> you could try starting it from a terminal to catch any errors it has
[20:31] <xubuntu395> ok, sorry for my stupid question... how to start LOW from a term session ?
[20:33] <ChogyDan> xubuntu395: Im on 13.10, and lowritter starts fine for me, from term
[20:34] <xubuntu395> thanks "lowriter" works fine also... I try to reproduce my issue... thanks
[20:52] <xubuntu637> Hello Everyone
[20:52] <xubuntu395> is it interesting to get the libreoffice 4.1 version instead of 4.02 ? Possible on xubuntu ?
[20:53] <xubuntu637> Does anyone know the official minimum system requirements for Xubuntu 13.1
[20:54] <xubuntu637> good luck finding them online
[20:54] <xubuntu395> ..and how to get the LOW 4.05 ?
[20:55] <ChogyDan> xubuntu637: http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/
[20:57] <xubuntu637> I was there, so where are they listed
[20:58] <ChogyDan> bottom of the page
[20:58] <xubuntu637> well duhhhhhhh
[20:58] <xubuntu637> thanks
[20:58] <ChogyDan> np :)
[21:03] <xubuntu637> I run Mint myself, but I sometimes get customers asking for Linux that will run on OLDER systems.
[21:10] <xubuntu637> Can anyone give me some pointers - do's and don'ts about Xubuntu ???
[22:10] <ultim8> Hi. how to install xfce4-xkb-plugin in xubuntu? i understand that this is what i need for the keyboard layots.
[22:21] <SonikkuAmerica> ultim8: [ sudo apt-get install xfce4-xkb-plugin ]
[22:22] <ultim8> SonikkuAmerica, ty but no need anymore. Found other solution.
[23:35] <xubuntu918> hi! trying to install xubuntu on fujitsu lifebook ah532
[23:35] <xubuntu918> seems like the notebook has uefi enabled
[23:36] <xubuntu918> so, xubuntu goes through the install and finally croaks says grub2 install to /target failed!!!
[23:36] <xubuntu918> fastboot and secureboot have been disabled in the bios and csm has been enabled
[23:36] <xubuntu918> any hints/tips/suggestions?
[23:37] <`Fibz`> try installing boot-repair on the live USB and running boot repair on the computer
[23:38] <xubuntu918> yep! that's next ... after this install fails :(
[23:38] <`Fibz`> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[23:38] <`Fibz`> that fixes uefi BIOS issues in a lot of cases
[23:39] <`Fibz`> also check the BIOS settings to see if eufi can be disabled
[23:39] <xubuntu918> fastboot and secureboot have been disabled in the bios and csm has been enabled
[23:40] <xubuntu918> installing ... installing ... installing ...
[23:41] <xubuntu918> huh! i can't believe this! fibz ... the installation probably completed. it is asking me to restart. i am gonna go ahead
[23:41] <xubuntu918> and see if the system restarts properly
[23:41] <xubuntu918> woo hoo!
[23:41] <`Fibz`> if it fails to boot, run boot-repair
[23:41] <xubuntu918> i will
[23:42] <xubuntu918> but, i will have to install it first right?
[23:42] <`Fibz`> boot using the Lve USB, install, run, reboot
[23:42] <`Fibz`> install boot-repair
[23:42] <xubuntu918> so, i boot from the usb drive, add ppa, update and install boot-repair and then run boot-repair, right?
[23:42] <`Fibz`> yeah
[23:43] <xubuntu918> ok! hang in there. if things work ... i will be back from an "INstALLED" ubuntu system. woo hoo!
[23:43] <xubuntu918> bye for now and thanks for help. i will be back