[00:08] What is terminal command to see what version Ubuntu you are working in? [00:24] try cat /etc/*release [00:24] or also try cat /etc/issue [00:25] or leave the channel before an answer works too [01:04] DJJeff, for the future its lsb_releas [01:04] lsb_release [01:04] :) [01:05] my works too [01:05] P: [01:54] hi, there! does anyone know how to install Tor or any other Onion browser under Xubuntu? [01:57] yes, go to the TOR web site and follow the instructions [01:58] !tor [01:58] Tor is a program to route connections through several servers for anonymity. It is in Ubuntu's repositories, but the Tor Project recommends using their Tor packages due to past issues with Ubuntu's. For setup info, see option (2) of https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en | To use Tor on freenode, see !tor-sasl [01:59] just remember, configuring TOR as an exit relay will get you banned from freenode [02:00] (exit node) Though you can connect to Freenode over Tor, as long as you auth with SASL. [02:01] thanks! that was sweet! [02:02] anyone here? [02:02] many people here! [02:02] I am from Brazil. Sao Paulo. www.ufscar.br [02:02] xubuntu330... if you really want to do it right, go get T.A.I.L.S. [02:03] what is TAILS? [02:03] The Amnesic Incognito Live System. runs off a bootable USB. VERY secure [02:04] How do I get it? [02:04] https://tails.boum.org/ [02:05] uses Onion also [02:05] cool! I will check it out! thanks! [02:05] welcome [02:05] :-) cheers from Brazil! [02:09] Is xubuntus release usually or always behind ubuntus? [02:10] Or do they often or always come out at the same time? [02:10] they come out almost at the same time [02:11] ubuntu comes first then followed by its different flavors [02:16] as soon as the main mirrors get populated, they will announce the release === SonikkuAmerica2 is now known as SonikkuAmerica [02:34] hi [02:36] yes? [02:42] Anyone know about LVM? [02:43] didn't you get enough info on the other channel? [02:44] I ask because I need information === makimac_ is now known as makimac [03:43] using the locate command, how would i pipe the output of locate through the cp (copy) command and copy all occurences of, say for example, *.mp3 located on my hard-drive to a directory specified by me (~\me\mp3)? [03:55] for i in $( find /home/terryr/.cache/shotwell/ -name '*.mp3' ); do cp -v $i ~/me/mp3; done [03:55] something like that, of course with the find path changed [03:56] I think this has issues with filenames with quotes, spaces etc [03:58] Gumby: could i pipe the output of locate to cp? [04:10] I wouldnt bother with a pipe, just use the example I gave but with locate instead [04:12] Gumby: like this? for i in $( locate '*.mp3' ); do cp -v $i ~/me/mp3 [04:12] yup [04:13] again, you'll have issues with folders that have spaces and special characters though [04:14] I think you can double ' the $i to get past that, I can't 100% remember though [04:15] Gumby: i get this error: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `;' [04:15] you forgot the ; done === SonikkuAmerica is now known as S-USA|Gone [04:27] Gumby: got it working. thanks. [04:30] good job, and you're welcome [05:01] what's a good, small (i.e. small memory small screensize) mp3/ogg player? === burn_ is now known as burn [07:58] happy xubuntu release day for everyone! [08:21] When I want to resize windows it's really hard to hit the corners... solution? [08:22] there is like a 1-pixel area that i have to hit [08:28] xabster: can be a bit tricky - which is why I don't do it that way - have a look here http://xubuntu.org/news/window-resizing-in-xubuntu-and-xfce/ [08:30] ! Isitout [08:30] The 19th release of Ubuntu, Saucy Salamander, will be out in October of 2013. [08:30] xabster: personally I find the alt+right click+ drag method easiest [08:30] !42 [08:30] The Answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything. [08:30] ObrienDave: can you go and play with the bot in -offtopic please [08:31] (or -bots) [08:31] or anywhere but here [08:37] elfy, ill see if i can get used to it, but seems very nice [08:38] easier to get used to that than fight trying to do it the other way :) === cub_ is now known as cub [09:11] Haya all, I want xubuntu 13.10 and i cant seam to find an ISO for it. As a fix I used ubuntu 13.10 and apt-get install xubuntu-desktop anyone know of a straight 13.10 iso ? [09:12] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/305/builds [09:12] you can get it from there - and at the same time you can test it for us :) [09:13] but it's not actually released yet [09:14] elfy: thanks will download that now and install it tonight [09:14] i dont like installing a new desktop after installing an os it feels like it should be bloated [09:19] I can list a serial port with my custom program located at /dev/ttyS0 -- how do I check which kind of hardware registered that ? [09:20] You can get the beta2 release from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/saucy/beta-2/ [09:20] nevermind :) [09:21] ObrienDave: dont have access to a web browser atm is there a daily xubuntu ? (im new to xfce :) ) [12:05] Does anyone know if there going to be a new xbuntu like in linux mint? [12:06] A new xubuntu what? [12:06] perlsyntax, ???? yes, xubuntu 13.10 [12:06] xcfe desktop [12:07] What version does it have? [12:07] perlsyntax, xfce updates on their own schedule, so yes at some point [12:07] !info xfce4 saucy [12:07] xfce4 (source: xfce4): Meta-package for the Xfce Lightweight Desktop Environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.10.1 (saucy), package size 4 kB, installed size 31 kB [12:07] !mint [12:07] Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org [12:07] i rem it has 9.10 [12:08] i think [12:08] There has never been a version "9.10" of Xfce. [12:08] how do i look up what verion i have [12:09] perlsyntax: Run xfce4-about [12:12] in the seach tool you mean. [12:12] perlsyntax, run it in a terminal [12:12] perlsyntax: I actually meant at a command prompt [12:13] 4.10 [12:14] that must be the new one that out. [12:14] will Xbuntu come with 4.10 in 13.10? [12:15] !saucy|perlsyntax, [12:15] perlsyntax,: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. Release date will be 17th October 2013. [12:15] sorry i asked. [12:16] perlsyntax, no need to be. details at the other channel. [12:16] what's a good, small (i.e. small memory small screensize) mp3/ogg player? [12:16] gdos, mplayer [12:17] audacious is more graphical === cub_ is now known as cub [12:26] so whats the difference between mplayer and mplayer2? [12:26] gdos: http://www.mplayer2.org/differences/ [12:27] thanks baizon [12:28] will 13.10 still be using xscreensaver? [12:30] !saucy|qwertz_, [12:30] qwertz_,: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. Release date will be 17th October 2013. [12:44] cfhowlett: i'm sure xubuntu will but what about ubuntu: doesn't ubuntu use the gnome-screensaver? [12:48] gdos, gnome was replaced by unity. seek no gnome here. [12:54] my question is purely about aesthetics: i simply don't like how xscreensaver looks [12:55] qwertz_, understood. there are alternatives. not sure it's worth it to attempt to shoehorn gnome into xubuntu ... [12:55] qwertz_ it looks different on every system. even suse uses xscreensaver 5.20 whilst xubuntu 13.04 uses xscreensaver 5.15 - still can't figure out why. [12:56] i prefer xubuntu but wish it would use xscreensaver 5.20 [12:57] *BRB* [13:04] yeah, sneaking gnome in doesn't really seem to be an alternative [13:09] I think xscreensaver might've been replaced with lightlocker [13:09] Sysi, xscreensave on 12.04 ... === knome changed the topic of #xubuntu to: Xubuntu support | Xubuntu 13.10 is out! Download from http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com | No one around? See the complete support methods list at http://xubuntu.org/help | Offtopic: #xubuntu-offtopic [13:46] !bug 1208204 [13:46] bug 1208204 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1208204 [13:56] Hi everyone was wondering if I update beta 2 does that make it the same as the final release? [13:57] Hunter1, yes [13:58] how's upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 going? did anyone try yet? how smooth did it go? [13:58] hey qwertz thanks for that.... Thought I might have to download the final version [13:59] Hunter1, no, you're fine [14:00] i'm waiting for the first upgrade experiences to pop up on the internet [14:01] I'm finding it a great release except for the volume icon in the taskbar.. I click on it and there is no menu [14:01] known issue Hunter1 - it's on the release notes [14:01] Cheers for that elfy [14:02] Hunter1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1208204 [14:02] Ubuntu bug 1208204 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin" [High,Triaged] [14:05] thanks elfy I'll try that working around and see how it goes [14:05] anyone tried ubuntu phone yet? [14:08] Hunter1, is there a phone yet? [14:09] i'm looking into buying a new smartphone [14:09] so far, i as waiting for google's nexus 5 [14:09] sorry I meant the version 1.0 of ubuntu touch.... if you've got a nexus 4 you can install it [14:09] it came out today as well [14:09] but i'd be happy to go for a firefox os/ubuntu phone instead - if it rivals the nexus hardware-wise [14:10] haven't had much to do with the firefox os.... haven't seen alot of it here in Aus [14:11] the nexus 5 will be a fantastic bit of hardware [14:14] i'm happy to replace android [14:14] let's see how much of a hassle that'll be on the nexus 5 [14:27] every 12 hours or-so, my whole system freezes completely, not even '[CTRL] + [ALT] + [F1]' does anything, not even SysRq keys!, just completely freezes! not even any lights on the keyboard., this is a new desktop build and I have done everything I can possibly do to ensure all hardware is as stable as possible, even updated the BIOS!, I've tried everything, I wanna be SURE if it's an OS problem or a Hardware problem, the total non-responsiveness [14:27] leads me to believe it's a Hardware problem, but I have done literally everything even remotely possible to ensure all hardware is okay. [14:28] motherboard doesn't report of any clocking problems, and not a single thing is overclocked. [14:29] (Xubuntu 12.04.3), so, what could be wrong? [14:32] rj45 EVERY 12 hours? Of course, we suspect clock ... somehow. could it be hardware? A UPS reset/powerdown/ something else? [14:33] well, it's not exactly on that time, sometimes 3 hours, sometimes 6 hours, it's kinda random [14:34] no UPS being used, PSU is one of best money can buy [14:34] Memtest reports everything's okay too. [14:36] Hardware: mobo = Asus F2A85-M, cpu = AMD A10 6700, ram = 2x4GB Crucial Balistix (1866MHz but auto under-clocks to 1333MHz for motherboard compatibility), ssd = Samsung 840 EVO 128GB [14:37] mobo's BIOS was updated to latest BIOS. [14:38] I'm just at my wits-end here!, it could be a number of problems.. but I've tried everything! X_X [14:38] I'm a freakin' IT Techie!, I LIVE computers! 0_0 [14:40] RJ45: how about overheating? [14:40] are you using propietary graphics driver? [14:40] cub: as far as I can tell, all cooling is 100% perfect [14:41] Sysi: yes, I have-to, otherwise all graphics are f*cky, the AMD Catalyst driver for APU's built-in GPU [14:43] the hours when it's not freezing-up, it all works beautifully, under any load I put it under. [14:44] this sound familiar or someone else is having the same issue [14:44] hmm [14:44] RJ45: you come here often? ;) [14:44] cub: nope [14:45] when it's not freezing-up completely, everything works, oh so beautifully, like a well oiled ****** :P [14:46] but seriously, I have-to live with this computer for many many years every day, I gotta find a solution to these total freeze-ups! [14:47] please put output of »cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log« to paste.ubuntu.com [14:53] http://pastebin.com/30h8zn2H [14:53] Sysi: ^^^ [14:56] hum, no errors or even warnings [14:57] yup, I doubt it's any problem with X, as when the freeze happens, I can't even '[CTRL] + [ALT] + [F1/2/3/4/5/6...]' [14:58] and 'SysRq keys' do nothing. [14:58] but x logs could indicate driver problem [14:58] ah, okay [14:58] next check out dmesg [14:58] by typing?.. [14:59] dmesg ;) [14:59] lol, okay sir :3 [15:02] http://pastebin.com/SBbZvJ7Z [15:02] Sysi: ^^^ [15:10] ...is it bad? o.o [15:15] can't see anything too bad there either.. [15:16] hmmm [15:17] this really is a tough nut x_x [15:17] why is it saying "[ 3.398314] Too many HDMI devices" a few times? o.o [15:18] no idea [15:18] mobo has 1 built-in HDMI port, and I'm just using 1 VGA monitor! XD [15:18] invisible HDMI devices eh? [15:23] Sysi: this *could* be a hardware problem, but I really doubt it, all hardware's set-up as stable as humanly possible! [15:25] Sysi: if it's any help at-all to diagnosis, I can paste the output of ANYTHING! [15:26] Sysi: please, by all means don't hesitate to ask for info :) [15:29] sorry, but I don't really have more ideas [15:31] sudo lshw: http://pastebin.com/78NzmGEf [15:31] sudo dmidecode: http://pastebin.com/bn4Szcqj [15:31] ..just in-case [15:33] even if it so-happens to be a hardware problem, if I could at-least identify exactly what hardware's at fault! [16:01] Mjello, did anyone do the upgrade from 13.04? [16:02] I'm scared, please be my guinea pig [16:05] how can i view the system book scripts? for some reason also is not loading at boot so i find myself typing the command 'sudo also force-reload' each time i login. [16:12] Thunar does not support connections to sftp or ssh yet? [16:13] what do you mean, DJJeff? [16:13] which version do you use? [16:14] 1.6.3 [16:14] is that not the latest? [16:15] hmm, it should be but in 1.6.2 it works fine, ssh://IP/direcotry [16:15] hrmmm causes my Thunar to crash [16:15] is it because I run Thunar as the root user [16:17] yes [16:18] why am I not allowed to run Thunar as root and have my ssh and eat it too [16:18] * GridCube doesnt know [16:18] that was a joke see...... have my cake and eat it too [16:19] say I want to ssh into a server as root and copy and paste files into my local root folder [16:19] but nooooooooo only Nautilus can do that [16:20] everyone bow down to the all might Nautilus [16:20] Nautilus looks ugly and lame in GTK3 [16:21] they are trying to copy apple in some fashion [16:21] and failing hard at it [16:23] It does not have to be pretty and colourful just need it to work so I can be productive [16:54] What's up guys [16:54] I am from asia and my xubuntu installation is in progress :) [16:55] Guys... [16:55] is there anybody in there ? [16:55] O.o [16:55] yep [16:55] Is it only me ? alone :O [16:55] aww yeah.. finaly :D [16:56] if you want offtopic chat then please join #xubuntu-offtopic [16:57] But how ? I am new to this whole thing brah. my xubuntu installtion is in progress. I've clicked a link and suddenly firefox window appeard. :) that's how I am in here. [16:59] Oh got it. [16:59] thank ya. [17:00] how can i view the system book scripts? for some reason also is not loading at boot so i find myself typing the command 'sudo also force-reload' each time i login. [17:08] dunno brah [17:54] Got an update today "Xubuntu base - 267kB" this is suppose to up my version to 13.10? [17:55] it'll be an update to 13.10 [17:56] Yeah it came after 267kB [17:56] Anyone here use plank? [17:57] hey, do we get any packages for unity ? or is unity completely stripped from xubuntu? [17:57] Unity is the default DE for Ubuntu. I would imagine that most of the Unity components are out of Xubuntu [17:58] I wish *ubuntu upgrades were less rude about existing package configuration. grrr. [17:58] I have no idea what im doing [17:59] But one example, xfburn removed from netbook because there's no cd burner. Upgrade reinstalls it. [18:00] lol, I've been there. [18:00] It's probably because of the meta-package. [18:00] The upgrade process just follows the grocery list that's put in front of it. [18:00] For better, or for worse [18:03] m2kk, type: do-release-upgrade -d [18:03] in a terminal [18:03] m2 what version are you actually running? [18:03] GridCube, i got the regular update now with 700 packages to install and thousand to upgrade lol [18:04] aah - ignore me then :) [18:04] elfy, 13.04 im running [18:05] m2kk, that sounds about right [18:05] GridCube, i sure hope so [18:08] hey there, currently installing 13.10 and running into serious troubles [18:09] phil4321, sudo apt-delete serious-troubles [18:09] [ sudo apt-get purge serious-troubles [18:09] ] [18:09] manual setup with LUKS and LVM2, can't boot into the system and the live-usb lvm cant detect any vg/pv/lv's [18:10] sudo apt-get solve world-problems [18:10] sudo apt-get install 42 :P [18:11] the package "42" requires additional packages: "destroy-earth" Proceed with install? y/N [18:12] capital letter YES [18:12] lol [18:14] another interesting thing is the skip button when downloading updates (which i disselected), it doesn't skip, it shows details [18:15] and it is not the repo on the usb, no lights blinking there [18:19] any hints on luks with lvm? [18:27] phil4321: so whats your specific question then? [18:28] well, how do i recover lvm lv's from a non-bootable installation? [18:29] pvscan/lvscan/vgscan gives no results === io is now known as IdleOne === SonikkuAmerica is now known as i1 [18:44] Is there a way with this DE to attach a image to a folder so it shows on top of it? (shrunk of course) [18:50] Yowl, yes, use the emblems [18:52] knome: Are emblems preset images to pick from, or can I use any image I want from my hard drive? [18:53] they are preset, but it is possible to create an icon theme that inherits the regular icon theme and in addition to it, adds more emblems [18:55] knome: I didn't understand what you said about the icon theme, what if I don't want to add more emblems, I just want to add a image to a particular folder? Or could I add it to emblems, add said image to a folder, delete it from emblems, and have it still show on that folder? [18:56] there is no way to have pictures as emblems unless they are emblems in the icon theme [18:57] And no way to add pictures to icons without them being emblems knome? [18:57] I mean images to folders [18:58] as i said, no. [18:59] knome: Is emblems part of the xubuntu DE? Or is this how all the ubuntu distros work? Or put another way, is there a DE that can do this? [19:00] Yowl, i don't know about other ubuntu flavors. emblems are usually handled in the file manager (thunar for xubuntu) though, so installing another file manager might be a solution [19:00] you can use different filemanager with xfce [19:03] Sysi: Is xfce what xubuntu uses? [19:05] yup [19:06] Sysi: Are there any file managers incompatible with any DE's or distros? [19:06] Or is that not a issue? [19:10] Sysi: ? [19:10] shouldn't be [19:13] Sysi: Is it possible there is a file manager that stores the image for the folders, in that folder? I don't want to do a bunch of work assigning images, only to have it be undone because I changed distros. And I don't want certain images seen by certain people borrowing my PC. [19:14] sorry but I don't know, I use thunar (xubuntu default) [19:16] Sysi: Know of a good place to get a list of file managers or more information about them? [19:23] Anyone know how to make a gpg key? [19:24] !gpg | Poisoned_Dragon [19:24] Poisoned_Dragon: gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts [19:25] Thank you. :) [19:27] Sysi: You are sure the emblem feature is part of the file manage, and not independent of it? [19:48] Hello everyone, does anyone knows how to activate the "hibernate" option on 13.10? Thanks, [19:48] Bosi: You're crossposting, arent you? [19:49] bekks, what? [19:54] Hi. I need an advice pls. Atm nvidia-304 is activated but the nvidia-319 is the recommended. Should i use the 319? [19:57] What's your gpu model? [19:57] Mine is this.... [19:57] Graphics: Card: NVIDIA G84 [GeForce 8600 GT] [19:57] X.Org 1.14.3 drivers nvidia (unloaded: fbdev,vesa,nouveau) Resolution 1024x768@60.0hz [19:57] GLX Renderer GeForce 8600 GT/PCIe/SSE2 GLX Version 3.3.0 NVIDIA 319.32 [19:57] And that seems to work with 319 just fine. [19:57] Poisoned_Dragon, how do i check? Sorry, i'm newbie. [19:59] Well, I use inxi. You'll have to use lspci. So... type in terminal: lspci | grep VGA [20:02] Poisoned_Dragon, http://pastebin.com/Cdx4JucX [20:05] Poisoned_Dragon, are u here? [20:06] one sec [20:06] Oh geez, ultim8! Your card is far newer than mine! lol [20:06] If I can run 319, your pc can do it standing on it's top. [20:07] Poisoned_Dragon, so okey... i'm switching to 319, reboot? [20:08] Poisoned_Dragon, i got nvidia-319 {recommended) and nvidia-319-updates.. Pick the first? [20:08] Not the updates [20:08] just the recommended [20:08] then reboot when it tells you to. [20:08] Poisoned_Dragon, ty.. Brb [20:09] are there release notes for xubuntu? [20:11] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseNotes/Xubuntu [20:11] well, at least the indicator sound issue is listed, but I'm sad it is still broke :( [20:12] ChogyDan, what indicator sound? 0_x [20:15] Poisoned_Dragon, i'm back. How can i check that my driver is working properly? [20:15] ChogyDan, there is a fix for that. [20:15] one sec. [20:15] So I received this distribtion-upgrade window and I told it to upgrade, but now its blank. [20:16] jouke, I just did it from terminal. It was faster. [20:16] Poisoned_Dragon: I'm aware of the fix listed in the bug report. It stopped working for me at some point [20:16] Poisoned_Dragon: congratulations. [20:16] How can I tell if I can just reboost? [20:16] ChogyDan: if there's an update then you'd need to redo the change to the file [20:17] *reboot [20:19] ChogyDan, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1208204 [20:19] Ubuntu bug 1208204 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin" [High,Triaged] [20:19] read comment 5 [20:20] Poisoned_Dragon, i'm back. How can i check that my driver is working properly? [20:22] Poisoned_Dragon: I know, I do know about the fix, and I have applied it before. But, I used to be able to do it manually: kill indicator-sound-service, ./indicator-sound-service in the /usr/lib/i386 etc etc directory [20:24] hi [20:24] Oh, I dunno that one, ChogyDan [20:24] ultim8, run glxgears in terminal [20:24] ultim8: you can also run `sudo lshw -C video` and see what it lists as the driver [20:25] I am having trouble with the software centre I can not find skype or steam, does xubuntu not share the ubuntu repos? [20:25] Poisoned_Dragon: glxgears does not tell you anything. It uses the CPU, entirely. [20:25] ultim8: Just pastebin the Xorg.0.log :) [20:26] Really? I thought it would fail id the driver wasn't working properly. [20:26] bekks, ChogyDan Poisoned_Dragon http://pastebin.com/vdn28LCv [20:27] ultim8: you are running the nvidia driver *shrug* :) [20:27] heh [20:27] ChogyDan, good to know :D [20:27] gr8 [20:27] That's why I like inxi [20:27] It's faster to find out [20:27] well.. not i can start using xubuntu.. learning :D [20:28] now* :D [20:28] ty for the help guys. i'm sure it wasn't my last time :D [20:28] Hi, I have an issu with LO Writer : it closes sometimes, sudently, when I work on it (Xu 13.04, LOW 4.0.2.2) : any idea ? [20:30] you could try starting it from a terminal to catch any errors it has [20:31] ok, sorry for my stupid question... how to start LOW from a term session ? [20:33] xubuntu395: Im on 13.10, and lowritter starts fine for me, from term [20:34] thanks "lowriter" works fine also... I try to reproduce my issue... thanks [20:52] Hello Everyone [20:52] is it interesting to get the libreoffice 4.1 version instead of 4.02 ? Possible on xubuntu ? [20:53] Does anyone know the official minimum system requirements for Xubuntu 13.1 [20:54] good luck finding them online [20:54] ..and how to get the LOW 4.05 ? [20:55] xubuntu637: http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ [20:57] I was there, so where are they listed [20:58] bottom of the page [20:58] well duhhhhhhh [20:58] thanks [20:58] np :) [21:03] I run Mint myself, but I sometimes get customers asking for Linux that will run on OLDER systems. === azeam_afk is now known as azeam [21:10] Can anyone give me some pointers - do's and don'ts about Xubuntu ??? === pasdfsdfg is now known as makimac1 === makimac1 is now known as makimac- === elias21_ is now known as elias21 [22:10] Hi. how to install xfce4-xkb-plugin in xubuntu? i understand that this is what i need for the keyboard layots. [22:21] ultim8: [ sudo apt-get install xfce4-xkb-plugin ] [22:22] SonikkuAmerica, ty but no need anymore. Found other solution. [23:35] hi! trying to install xubuntu on fujitsu lifebook ah532 [23:35] seems like the notebook has uefi enabled [23:36] so, xubuntu goes through the install and finally croaks says grub2 install to /target failed!!! [23:36] fastboot and secureboot have been disabled in the bios and csm has been enabled [23:36] any hints/tips/suggestions? [23:37] <`Fibz`> try installing boot-repair on the live USB and running boot repair on the computer [23:38] yep! that's next ... after this install fails :( [23:38] <`Fibz`> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair [23:38] <`Fibz`> that fixes uefi BIOS issues in a lot of cases [23:39] <`Fibz`> also check the BIOS settings to see if eufi can be disabled [23:39] fastboot and secureboot have been disabled in the bios and csm has been enabled [23:40] installing ... installing ... installing ... [23:41] huh! i can't believe this! fibz ... the installation probably completed. it is asking me to restart. i am gonna go ahead [23:41] and see if the system restarts properly [23:41] woo hoo! [23:41] <`Fibz`> if it fails to boot, run boot-repair [23:41] i will [23:42] but, i will have to install it first right? [23:42] <`Fibz`> boot using the Lve USB, install, run, reboot [23:42] <`Fibz`> install boot-repair [23:42] so, i boot from the usb drive, add ppa, update and install boot-repair and then run boot-repair, right? [23:42] <`Fibz`> yeah [23:43] ok! hang in there. if things work ... i will be back from an "INstALLED" ubuntu system. woo hoo! [23:43] bye for now and thanks for help. i will be back