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| gnuoy | jamespage, do you think it makes sense to add functionality to the quantum-gateway charm to configure the IP, gateway etc of the ext-port ? | 09:28 |
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| Roconda | Hey, can anyone point me in the right direction with JuJu? Looking for a solution to use juju on multiple servers with lxc(similar to multiple local env.). Lets say I´ve got multiple local JuJu enviroments with lxc, how do they communicate with each other? | 11:15 |
| marcoceppi | Roconda: They don't at the moment. We have an item on the roadmap to allow for "cross-environment relations" it's not implemented yet | 11:17 |
| marcoceppi | Roconda: we have limited contanier support for deployed servers/services | 11:19 |
| Roconda | marcoceppi: what do you recommend me, based on my situation? | 11:20 |
| Roconda | marcoceppi: good to know this issue is something being worked on :-) | 11:20 |
| marcoceppi | Roconda: so you can create LXCs in deployed environments and co-locate/create more dense services | 11:20 |
| Roconda | marcoceppi: using JuJu of without? | 11:22 |
| marcoceppi | Roconda: so containers is a great way to achieve what you want to do, and there is support for this currently, however there are still issues with this solution as there are networking issues | 11:23 |
| Roconda | marcoceppi: Okay, I guess I will use lxc at the moment and keep an eye on the cross-env. relation. Once cross-env. works I can migrate to JuJu | 11:27 |
| marcoceppi | Roconda: if you're not already, subscribe to the juju mailing list and watch the [ANN] emails | 11:28 |
| marcoceppi | Roconda: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/juju\ | 11:28 |
| Roconda | marcoceppi: Thanks! Will do. Thanks for your help | 11:28 |
| marcoceppi | Roconda: while I don't have exact dates, we're looking to address these two features (and many others) within the next 6 months | 11:33 |
| Roconda | marcoceppi: Ah, in that case I´ll currently use the local environment so I can easily migrate to the cross-environment. I case I do need to scale out I could migrate to Amazon. The reason why I would like to use LXC is about costs. Working on a startup so I can´t afford to run many servers on amazon atm. | 11:39 |
| marcoceppi | Roconda: there are more affordable cloud providers that Juju supports available. Last time I checked HP Cloud was pretty low in cost compared to AWS | 12:04 |
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| kurt_ | jcastro: ping | 15:29 |
| jcsackett | sinzui: so we're hitting the request limit on the askubuntu API, thus no items. | 15:53 |
| sinzui | yay! | 15:53 |
| jcsackett | sinzui: there's a way to get more requests, requiring auth fun. thought we could avoid it, but evidently even once a day is too often. | 15:53 |
| sinzui | We disable staging and give prod a chance to do its job | 15:54 |
| * jcsackett nods | 15:54 | |
| jcsackett | that's a thought. | 15:54 |
| jcsackett | we'll disable it on staging, see if prod picks it up tomorrow, and i'll work on the better version of api querying. | 15:55 |
| sinzui | lets do that for now. We saw it work on staging. We can discuss this with charmers next week | 15:55 |
| * jcsackett nods | 15:55 | |
| jcsackett | sinzui: disabling on staging is done, and a card has been added. | 15:58 |
| sinzui | thank you | 15:58 |
| gary_poster | paulczar, last night's release of the GUI should have fixes for the bugs you reported. please let me know if you encounter other issues. | 16:44 |
| * gary_poster working on announcements | 16:44 | |
| paulczar | yessir appears to have fixed my issues with the gui | 16:46 |
| paulczar | now I have bug with juju-deployer :) | 16:46 |
| paulczar | https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-deployer/+bug/1241721 | 16:46 |
| _mup_ | Bug #1241721: juju-deployer never finishes <juju-deployer:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1241721> | 16:46 |
| gary_poster | paulczar, :-P looking | 16:46 |
| paulczar | it's still in bug-state ...so I can dig out extra debug info if you want anything | 16:46 |
| gary_poster | paulczar, plus small internal "yay" for gui ;-) | 16:46 |
| gary_poster | paulczar, hazmat probably is person to investigate eventually. Out of curiosity though, do I understand correctly that, according to status and gui, you have all expected services but no relations? | 16:50 |
| paulczar | looks like rabbit is in pending state | 16:50 |
| gary_poster | huh | 16:50 |
| paulczar | so that might be holding it up | 16:51 |
| gary_poster | that smells more like a juju issue, yeah :-/ | 16:51 |
| hazmat | odd.. still deployr should timeout w error | 16:51 |
| paulczar | oh I found it! | 16:51 |
| paulczar | "4": | 16:51 |
| paulczar | agent-state-info: '(error: invalid URL "http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/streams/v1/index.sjson" | 16:51 |
| paulczar | not found)' | 16:51 |
| paulczar | I'll add the whole juju status | 16:51 |
| paulczar | added as a comment | 16:52 |
| paulczar | but that url works fine for me | 16:52 |
| gary_poster | paulczar, I'm fishing for help for you... | 16:55 |
| paulczar | thanks :) | 16:55 |
| paulczar | finally hit some sort of timeout and juju-deployer continued through | 17:05 |
| paulczar | but obviously still a failed deploy | 17:05 |
| gary_poster | paulczar, I guess that's good, in that you can probably work around it after the deployment. So far everyone in the juju-dev pool I asked were at their EoD. | 17:06 |
| paulczar | yeah, just going to suck if I submit a charm contest entry which can't follow the contest instructions | 17:08 |
| paulczar | will need big walls of text in the readme :) | 17:08 |
| marcoceppi | paulczar: 1.16.0 ? | 17:19 |
| paulczar | yessir | 17:24 |
| paulczar | appears to be intermittant | 17:24 |
| paulczar | I ran again and it went through | 17:25 |
| paulczar | so guessing its not error handling well when a URL doesn't respond briefly | 17:25 |
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| paulczar | the juju-gui export doesn't seem to export which services are exposed. is this on purpose? or should I file bug ? | 17:27 |
| gary_poster | paulczar, hm. that sounds like a bug, yeah, assuming normal deployer formats support this. :-/ thank you | 17:30 |
| gary_poster | should be easy to do, but inconvenient timing | 17:30 |
| paulczar | I'll test through again to make sure ... I didn't miss setting it | 17:31 |
| paulczar | then will file | 17:31 |
| gary_poster | ack | 17:31 |
| adam_g | is it possible to configure the network used by the local provider? | 17:59 |
| marcoceppi | adam_g: not that I know of at this time | 18:24 |
| adam_g | that stinks | 18:25 |
| paulczar | in my experience if you can get the local provider to work at all you should be happy :) | 18:40 |
| adam_g | paulczar, its working good for me.. maybe too good. i have a local provider running on my local system and a remote system, but would like to be able to address them both | 18:52 |
| paulczar | mine doesn't seem to be able to get working ssh keys in the lxc containers ... so I can't juju debug-log or juju ssh or anything | 18:54 |
| adam_g | paulczar, oh, maybe you're hitting this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxc/+bug/1236577 | 18:56 |
| _mup_ | Bug #1236577: container's /home/ubuntu/ spawns with incorrect permissions, preventing SSH access <theme-oil> <lxc (Ubuntu):Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1236577> | 18:56 |
| adam_g | paulczar, i had the same issue | 18:56 |
| paulczar | it says they fixed ... did you have to pull something from a master branch? or was it fixed through to the apt-repos ? | 18:58 |
| adam_g | paulczar, it was fixed in LXC, not juju | 19:00 |
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| sidnei | hazmat: patch landed in lxc, so progress | 20:10 |
| hazmat | sidnei, awesome | 20:10 |
| ahasenack | is there a way to use, say, the "ubuntu" charm, but on saucy? | 20:11 |
| ahasenack | the charm seems to exist only in the precise namespace | 20:11 |
| sidnei | ahasenack: if you check it out locally, put into a saucy directory in your local repo, then --repository=... local:ubuntu? | 20:12 |
| ahasenack | that I didn't try yet | 20:13 |
| ahasenack | I was looking for command-line options I may have missed | 20:13 |
| ahasenack | weird | 20:16 |
| ahasenack | I had to use this: | 20:16 |
| ahasenack | root@server-1e8400be-2e1c-469a-b794-62a5c587da47:~# juju deploy --to 2 --repository $(pwd)/charms local:saucy/ubuntu ubuntu-saucy-container | 20:16 |
| ahasenack | without the saucy bit in local:saucy/ubuntu it would still try precise | 20:16 |
| ahasenack | I have charms/saucy/ubuntu/resto-of-the-charm | 20:16 |
| sidnei | ahasenack: probably from default-series in the environments.yaml defaulting to precise | 20:17 |
| ahasenack | could be. There was no default-series under the "local" environment though, only the others, so i assumed it didn't apply | 20:17 |
| ahasenack | since local will use whatever I'm running | 20:17 |
| ahasenack | and indeed, the bootstrap node is saucy | 20:18 |
| sidnei | i think that was the case in pyjuju | 20:18 |
| ahasenack | hm, I wanted to relate landscape-client to this one, but doesn't work, also because landscape-client only exists in the precise namespace | 20:18 |
| ahasenack | bummer, not friendly to non-precise workloads | 20:19 |
| sidnei | file a bug! i think this could well be a command-line option | 20:20 |
| ahasenack | the question is if all charms are supposed to work on all series | 20:21 |
| ahasenack | probably not | 20:21 |
| sidnei | nope | 20:29 |
| Nik_ | does anyone know if juju clients newer than 0.6.1 (precise) would be backwards compatible with agents running on machines running precise. Since I can't easily move up the release for juju (using MAAS), I wonder if I can upgrade the clients for deploy --to functionality and some bugfixes | 20:31 |
| cotton | how does os x juju work.. does it create containers directly inside OS X? or does it require a linux VM for an LXC host.. | 20:36 |
| sarnold | cotton: there are a variety of "providers" that actually speak to whatever "cloud" backend you have. it might be aws or azure or openstack or "local" (lxc, linux-only) or "null" (bad name, hope that changes, that uses ssh) | 20:58 |
| cotton | ah ok | 20:59 |
| sarnold | cotton: the ssh-based provider may be able to host workloads on OS X alright, but I'm not sure how far that has been tested. | 20:59 |
| sarnold | cotton: using the juju frontend on OS X ought to be well-tested, or at least intends to be well tested. :) | 20:59 |
| cotton | so i can run juju on my mac via brew, then control a 'local' lxc cloud inside an ubuntu vm also? | 21:00 |
| cotton | also, does juju have charms that take care of HA clusters? aka corosync/drbd/etc | 21:01 |
| marcoceppi | cotton: yes, so for the local provider on Mac/Windows, we utilize Vagrant to spin up a VM and run a special Ubuntu image inside that | 21:01 |
| cotton | yea ok i see HAcluster http://d.pr/i/8QEH | 21:01 |
| cotton | ah ok | 21:01 |
| cotton | cool | 21:01 |
| marcoceppi | cotton: so you need to vagrant up/vagrant ssh, then run juju commands inside the VM | 21:01 |
| marcoceppi | cotton: it's not a perfect story yet, just a stop gap :) | 21:01 |
| cotton | ok hah | 21:02 |
| marcoceppi | cotton: but outside of the local provider, all other providers/commands work on OSX with the native OSX juju client from brew | 21:03 |
| cotton | nice thanks | 21:03 |
| sarnold | marcoceppi: ha! you've got vagrant support going already? damn you guys are busy :) | 21:08 |
| marcoceppi | sarnold: the other way around | 21:08 |
| sarnold | marcoceppi: ha! vagrant has juju support already? damn those guys are busy! :) | 21:08 |
| marcoceppi | sarnold: we have a juju vagrant image which has local provider dependecies. So you can up a vagrant instance and get juju all installed witha deployed local environment and the gui | 21:09 |
| marcoceppi | sarnold: hah! | 21:09 |
| sarnold | marcoceppi: that's pretty cool :D | 21:09 |
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