| pitti | Good morning | 03:26 |
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| jetsaredim | is there a documented way to get the ia32-libs functionality working on 13.10? | 05:06 |
| jetsaredim | seems to have broken a bunch of packages | 05:06 |
| RAOF | jetsaredim: Which packages in particular? | 05:20 |
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| * didrocks reboots | 07:53 | |
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| Laney | morning | 08:07 |
| didrocks | hey Laney! how was your party? | 08:08 |
| Laney | we just went to the pub for dinner / beers | 08:09 |
| Laney | but it was nice! | 08:09 |
| Laney | how are you? looking forward to the weekend? | 08:09 |
| mlankhorst | it's weekend for me :D | 08:14 |
| didrocks | Laney: yeah, waiting for it, no party in my city though (for 2 cycles :( ) | 08:16 |
| Laney | aww | 08:17 |
| didrocks | Laney: do you know where is the configuration used to make those kinds of mount? /var/lib/schroot/chroots/quantal-amd64 on /var/lib/schroot/union/underlay/quantal-amd64-7d9b8eb9-5432-41df-b0aa-62dbe9e76537 type none (rw,bind) | 08:20 |
| didrocks | I think it's sbuild, but not sure where the config file is | 08:20 |
| didrocks | (tried to grep -r in /etc, but no luck) | 08:20 |
| Laney | hmm? | 08:20 |
| Laney | What do you want to do? | 08:20 |
| Laney | The schroot configuration files are in /etc/schroot/ | 08:21 |
| didrocks | hum grep -r quantal /etc/schroot/* | 08:21 |
| didrocks | Laney: I want to remove my quantal chroots (and mounts) | 08:21 |
| Laney | you have that even after a reboot? | 08:22 |
| didrocks | not sure why they are mounted at boot as well | 08:22 |
| didrocks | yeah | 08:22 |
| Laney | O_O | 08:22 |
| Laney | does schroot -l --all-sessions show anything? | 08:23 |
| didrocks | W: No chroots are defined in ‘/etc/schroot/schroot.conf’ or ‘/etc/schroot/chroot.d’ | 08:23 |
| didrocks | session:quantal-amd64-7d9b8eb9-5432-41df-b0aa-62dbe9e76537 | 08:23 |
| didrocks | so, not sure where this definition is | 08:24 |
| Laney | that's bizarre | 08:24 |
| Laney | anyway, you should be able to end it with schroot -e --all-sessions | 08:25 |
| didrocks | ok, the session ended | 08:25 |
| didrocks | let me reboot to see | 08:25 |
| didrocks | Laney: ok, at least, the session didn't autobindmount this time, thanks! | 08:27 |
| * didrocks is looking at how to remove it cleanly now | 08:28 | |
| * Laney hugs attente | 08:40 | |
| Laney | that layout change bug is noisy | 08:40 |
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| sil2100 | didrocks: hi! Regarding updating of cu2d-config with the new saucy branches - what should we do with touch only projects? Should we enable them for daily release only in head? Or only in saucy and leave them disabled as 'to_transition' in head? | 10:45 |
| sil2100 | (probably the latter?) | 10:45 |
| didrocks | sil2100: no, please put them in head | 10:46 |
| didrocks | I guess that's what makes more sense | 10:46 |
| didrocks | and disable in saucy | 10:46 |
| sil2100 | didrocks: ok, so daily_release: False? | 10:46 |
| didrocks | sil2100: check with fghinther, maybe we need to direcly remove those so that there is no duplication in the upstream merger | 10:47 |
| sil2100 | didrocks: ok, he's currently on holiday right now I guess, and he only did a desktop-only stack right now, but maybe I'll catch him for a moment ;) | 10:49 |
| didrocks | sil2100: yeah, let's see :) | 10:50 |
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| sil2100 | Hi! Does anyone know if indicator-network-prompt is touch only? | 11:26 |
| didrocks | $ seeded-in-ubuntu indicator-network-prompt | 11:26 |
| didrocks | indicator-network-prompt's binaries are not seeded. | 11:26 |
| didrocks | sil2100: so, not in any ubuntu image, should be touch only ^ | 11:26 |
| sil2100 | I didn't see it in the manifest as well, but been wondering if it's indeed used in touch as well, since the dependencies are not explicit | 11:27 |
| Laney | erm | 11:27 |
| Laney | seeded-in-ubuntu works for touch too | 11:27 |
| didrocks | $ seeded-in-ubuntu indicator-network | 11:28 |
| didrocks | indicator-network (from indicator-network) is seeded in: | 11:28 |
| didrocks | ubuntu-touch: daily-preinstalled | 11:28 |
| didrocks | oh indeed :) | 11:28 |
| didrocks | sil2100: so it's used, nowhere ;) | 11:28 |
| sil2100 | I wanted to catch Pete, but he's not around | 11:28 |
| sil2100 | didrocks: I guess I'll split it then ;p ? | 11:28 |
| didrocks | sil2100: no, on the contrary, don't split it | 11:28 |
| didrocks | no maintenance to do on it :) | 11:28 |
| darkxst | Hey Laney | 11:28 |
| sil2100 | Ah, so treat it as touch only and let it stay in head? | 11:29 |
| Laney | hey darkxst | 11:29 |
| Laney | how goes? | 11:29 |
| didrocks | sil2100: yeah, the question is in fact "do we maintain it for older release?" | 11:29 |
| darkxst | not great right now, car-less still | 11:29 |
| Laney | oh no | 11:29 |
| darkxst | yah, write-off, with complications | 11:30 |
| Laney | you crashed it? | 11:30 |
| Laney | :S! | 11:30 |
| darkxst | nope, it was just parked outside my house | 11:30 |
| sil2100 | didrocks: it's only in saucy it seems! | 11:31 |
| didrocks | sil2100: yeah, so will be T only in term of support :) | 11:31 |
| didrocks | sil2100: but please, reach to Pete, not sure why it was developped if not installed | 11:31 |
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| czajkowski | don't you guys ever rest, take the day off after a release ;) | 11:32 |
| darkxst | Laney, anyway, all that aside, do you think I would get PPU for ubuntu gnome package set if I applied? | 11:33 |
| Laney | darkxst: yeah, almost certainly | 11:33 |
| Laney | I saw jbicha left the team | 11:33 |
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| darkxst | yeh jbicha is gone | 11:34 |
| didrocks | czajkowski: heh, I can see sun + week-end from my window, so week-end is near! ;) | 11:34 |
| Laney | :/ | 11:34 |
| Laney | hope you guys find some more manpower | 11:34 |
| Laney | anyway, yeah, get it in | 11:34 |
| darkxst | ricotz is still there doing is own thing | 11:34 |
| darkxst | which helps a lot with the pre-packaging | 11:34 |
| * Laney nods | 11:35 | |
| Laney | I'd +1 you for ubuntu-desktop too, FWIW | 11:35 |
| Laney | xnox: is ubuntu-installer@ ever used by humans? | 11:38 |
| xnox | Laney: as in the ubuntu-installer@lists.ubuntu.com mailing list? well ABI bumps are mailed by human, and occasionally installer help / debugging is done there (by human posts) | 11:39 |
| Laney | ok | 11:40 |
| xnox | but it is low traffic. | 11:40 |
| Laney | was going to suggest A lanBell forwards his ubuntu-desktop email there | 11:40 |
| Laney | still, known bug ... | 11:40 |
| darkxst | Laney, oh thanks! I suppose that would be handy, but means more seb | 11:42 |
| Laney | haha | 11:42 |
| xnox | Laney: I wish there was ATK api I could call into to suppress / add events. I re-arrange half of the screen widgets, or change them, and screen-reader doesn't say anything. Or vice-versa, "bling" is animated and is pointlessly announced. | 11:42 |
| Laney | yeah I don't know anything about that stuff | 11:42 |
| rickspencer3 | hey desktoppers ... | 11:43 |
| Laney | maybe you want to work on it with TheMuso | 11:43 |
| rickspencer3 | I'm hearing that this bug is a bit urgetnt ... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-keyboard/+bug/1218322 | 11:43 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1218322 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc." [High,In progress] | 11:43 |
| Laney | rickspencer3: attente is actively working on that one | 11:43 |
| rickspencer3 | thanks Laney | 11:44 |
| Laney | he should be on in a little bit if you need more info | 11:44 |
| * Laney arghs at PNG optimisation | 12:08 | |
| Laney | This should be able to be parallelised | 12:08 |
| didrocks | quite painful in some packages, isn't it? :) | 12:15 |
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| xnox | What is / was: "indicator-session-devices" ? | 12:32 |
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| xnox | tedg: larsu: please review/accept branches linked to bug 1241539, i'd like them merged to trunk. I know there is no t-series to release this stuff to.. but still. | 13:49 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1241539 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "ubiquity-dm is missing keyboard, input, sound, system indicators" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1241539 | 13:49 |
| tedg | xnox, K, trunk is 14.04. Do you want them to hit 13.10 branch as well? | 13:54 |
| tedg | xnox, Also, have you guys discussed switching ubiquity over to being an upstart session for 14.04? | 13:55 |
| tedg | xnox, Is that on the table for work items? | 13:56 |
| xnox | tedg: no point for 13.10, cause we are not re-releasing .isos, but i guess at least people will see the fix / indicators in the oem config stage.... | 13:59 |
| xnox | tedg: i think for 14.04 only. | 13:59 |
| xnox | tedg: i think investing to make ubiquity upstart session, only if when we switch to mir by default on desktop and start requiring ubiquity to run in mir. | 14:00 |
| tedg | xnox, I don't see how those are related? | 14:00 |
| * tedg assumes that xnox knows Mir and Upstart do different things | 14:01 | |
| tedg | :-) | 14:01 |
| xnox | tedg: at the moment ubiquity-dm: bypasses lightdm, bypasses X, session upstart, gnome-session. | 14:01 |
| xnox | tedg: and I'd rather have same feature-parity, if ubiquity-dm becomes user-session and looses ability to spawn fallback X server and the like. | 14:02 |
| xnox | tedg: thus if i make it user-session, without mir and engineer replacements around X technology, it's a waste of time, cause i'll have to redo it under Mir not so long after. | 14:04 |
| tedg | xnox, My issue is that I want to move the indicators over to being Upstart jobs. Would you consider running Upstart with no startup event, and then starting the ones you want? | 14:04 |
| xnox | tedg: yeah, i'd be fine with that. | 14:04 |
| xnox | tedg: ubiquity-dm already spawns it's own everything, so no reason it can't spawn a custom / small upstart to launch a couple of jobs. actually that might be unintrusive babysteps. | 14:05 |
| tedg | xnox, Okay, sounds good | 14:06 |
| tedg | mterry, Do you think that could work for unity-greeter as well? ^ | 14:07 |
| mterry | tedg, potentially | 14:07 |
| xnox | tedg: mterry: do note that even system-init has two distict startup events. | 14:07 |
| xnox | we complete sub-vert boot and do $ init --start-up-event recovery to start in recovery mode with menu-selection. | 14:08 |
| xnox | and once done we simply emit normal "startup" event to kick off / complete normal boot. | 14:08 |
| xnox | similarly there is no reason why indicators can't all start on "indicators" event | 14:09 |
| xnox | and then for normal login we have a dummy "emit indicators" upstart job. | 14:09 |
| xnox | and in case of ubiquity/unity-greeter, spawn init --start-up-event indicators. | 14:09 |
| tedg | All the indicators do start on an indicator event. | 14:10 |
| tedg | It's emitted by Unity 7/8 | 14:10 |
| tedg | When they're ready to have indicators. | 14:10 |
| xnox | ooh, nice. | 14:17 |
| xnox | so i can start init, and emit indicators after panel is up. | 14:17 |
| xnox | but i guess my panel.c just force loads them... | 14:17 |
| tedg | Yeah, I think that makes sense. | 14:20 |
| tedg | Then effectively all the indicators are "one PID" from the greeter/ubiquity's perspective. | 14:21 |
| tedg | Means that we can easily reshuffle them without breaking. | 14:21 |
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| seb128 | happy friday desktopers! | 14:32 |
| Laney | someone please review my patch update in the g-c-c packaging branch | 14:33 |
| Laney | happy friday seb128! | 14:33 |
| seb128 | Laney, hey, you yoo! | 14:33 |
| seb128 | Laney, looking to g-c-c | 14:33 |
| larsu | xnox: sure | 14:44 |
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| seb128 | Laney, that seems a weird way to do it | 14:57 |
| Laney | what do you recommend? | 14:57 |
| seb128 | Laney, what we have been doing in other places is what 51_unity_options_in_display_panel.patch do | 14:57 |
| seb128 | + schemas = g_settings_list_schemas (); | 14:58 |
| seb128 | + while (*schemas != NULL) | 14:58 |
| seb128 | + { | 14:58 |
| seb128 | + if (g_strcmp0 (*schemas, UNITY2D_GSETTINGS_LAUNCHER) == 0) | 14:58 |
| seb128 | well, your way seems fine, it's just not what we are doing in other places | 14:58 |
| Laney | is that better? | 14:58 |
| Laney | I stole this idea from the 'gsettings' tool | 14:58 |
| seb128 | Laney, desrt says your way is about the best we can do | 15:00 |
| seb128 | Laney, so +1 | 15:00 |
| desrt | Laney: seb lies | 15:00 |
| desrt | the best we can do is to have the panel in the indicator itself, as with datetime | 15:00 |
| desrt | that is the correct thing to do | 15:00 |
| desrt | since we diverge from gnome upstream on the panels anyway.... | 15:00 |
| Laney | completely fork it? | 15:01 |
| desrt | that's what datetime did | 15:01 |
| Laney | Don't know how much that has in common with the upstream panel | 15:01 |
| Laney | this just adds one label/combo | 15:01 |
| desrt | the other alternative is to have gsettings-ubuntu-schemas and depend on that | 15:01 |
| desrt | that's why gnome does gsettings-desktop-schemas | 15:01 |
| Laney | it'd be a bit annoying to do a whole fork for that | 15:01 |
| desrt | well | 15:02 |
| desrt | we keep talking about wanting to do u-c-c anyway | 15:02 |
| Laney | yes, /that/ would be good | 15:02 |
| Laney | because then you get easy merging with upstream | 15:02 |
| seb128 | Laney, desrt: well, that change is the easiest thing to do/right fix until we have a proper fork | 15:03 |
| Laney | ya | 15:03 |
| Laney | thanks for the review | 15:04 |
| Laney | https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/a070e0e0f342f3d445cf13bf28f08d2868be0ba3 | 15:12 |
| Laney | this seems noisy | 15:12 |
| seb128 | Laney, I talked to robru about that one yesterday | 15:16 |
| Laney | yeah? | 15:18 |
| seb128 | Laney, he said that it happens when running friends from raring with pygobject from saucy | 15:18 |
| seb128 | Laney, it's likely it's happening during upgrades, pygobject gets upgraded first and during the time in between pygobject and friends are upgraded, the friend-dispatcher is started (its keeps going up and down) | 15:19 |
| Laney | okay, then a Breaks should fix it | 15:22 |
| Laney | or fixing the code in raring to work with both | 15:22 |
| walters | seb128: precisely the sort of thing ostree fixes, btw | 15:23 |
| seb128 | walters, yeah... | 15:24 |
| walters | (and unlike Image Based Upgrades, it has a sane story for how it interoperates with packages) | 15:25 |
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| seb128 | rickspencer3, hey, I read the backlog and I saw you pinged about that keyboard/keybinding issue, do you have any specific on what bits are important? | 16:29 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, (it's being actively worked but it mixes several issues and some of those are non trivial to fix, just trying to figure out if there is a workaround we could use that would it less of an issue for users until it's properly resolved) | 16:30 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128, I dunno, silbs mentioned that a lot of folks were pinging her about it | 16:31 |
| rickspencer3 | Laney said it was being handled, so that was good enough for me :) | 16:31 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, can you get specifics about the ping/what is the main concern? | 16:31 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, well, "being handled", attente has been spending the last few days on it (as you can see from the bug comments/ppa roundtrips) | 16:32 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, so yeah, it's actively worked, but we don't have a solution fixing all the problems yet | 16:32 |
| Laney | hmm, the latest LC_stuff change is a bit buggy | 16:33 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, though part of the issue is that users can't set the keybinding to some value (e.g l-shift+r-shift), I wonder how much of an issue that is | 16:34 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, or if changing the default to e.g ctrl-alt and having that working would be good enough for most users | 16:34 |
| seb128 | Laney, in u-s-s? | 16:34 |
| seb128 | Laney, how so? | 16:34 |
| Laney | hang on, trying to get the output | 16:35 |
| Laney | don't distract Will though; I'll look at it (maybe on Monday) :-) | 16:35 |
| seb128 | Laney, right | 16:35 |
| seb128 | no hurry for u-s-s | 16:35 |
| seb128 | it's not like those changes would land on an image this week anyway | 16:35 |
| Laney | indeed | 16:36 |
| Laney | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6258334/ | 16:36 |
| seb128 | Laney, it's like the 2 calls were done using different locales | 16:37 |
| seb128 | Laney, | 16:40 |
| seb128 | 16:40 | |
| seb128 | 162 | 16:40 |
| seb128 | act_user_set_language(user, qPrintable(languageCode.left(languageCode.indexOf('.')))); | 16:40 |
| seb128 | 16:40 | |
| seb128 | 163 | 16:40 |
| seb128 | act_user_set_formats_locale(user, qPrintable(languageCode)); | 16:40 |
| seb128 | shouldn't they both use "languageCode.left(languageCode.indexOf('.')"? | 16:40 |
| Laney | Dunno | 16:40 |
| Laney | I'm guessing it was deliberate | 16:40 |
| seb128 | attente, ^ | 16:41 |
| Laney | hmm | 16:43 |
| Laney | the dbus api documentation says they should be the same | 16:44 |
| seb128 | Laney, he's doing the '.' stuff to filter the UTF-8 out | 16:44 |
| Laney | seb128: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/saucy/accountsservice/saucy/view/head:/data/org.freedesktop.Accounts.User.xml#L153 | 16:48 |
| seb128 | Laney, ok, does dropping the ".indexOf('.')" resolve the issue? | 16:50 |
| Laney | let's see | 16:50 |
| Laney | hmm | 16:52 |
| seb128 | sil2100, fginther: do we have mergers for 13.10 branches? | 16:52 |
| seb128 | sil2100, fginther: https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/libindicator/always-create-widgets/+merge/191701 is sitting there with no CI nor merge happening | 16:52 |
| sil2100 | seb128: I doubt we have those yet - fginther is on holiday today, and the merge for updating cu2d-config for indicators is still awaiting review | 16:54 |
| sil2100 | Laney, seb128: I tested if the locales were changing with that branch attente prepared and they were, didn't check the api docs though | 16:56 |
| sil2100 | I was assuming those were deliberate as well | 16:56 |
| Laney | Well, AS actually rejects it if you pass e.g. de_DE on its own | 16:57 |
| Laney | so I don't really get what it set | 16:57 |
| Laney | the property was actually set to de_BE.UTF-8 | 16:57 |
| Laney | needs more debugging | 16:57 |
| seb128 | Laney, k | 16:58 |
| sil2100 | Ok, so maybe I approved to hastily? | 16:58 |
| seb128 | sil2100, should I just manually SRU that libindicator fix then? | 16:58 |
| Laney | it's still an improvement | 16:58 |
| Laney | we can fix in followups | 16:59 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, ^ (the SRU question) | 16:59 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, hey btw | 16:59 |
| seb128 | Laney, yeah | 16:59 |
| sil2100 | seb128: I would guess if it's important, let's do that - since today we won't get CI and mergers prepared for sure | 16:59 |
| sil2100 | Since we need fginther to be around for that | 16:59 |
| cyphermox | sil2100: what>? why? | 17:00 |
| cyphermox | isn't that commit merged yet? | 17:00 |
| sil2100 | Laney, seb128: right, sorry about that - I think I probably tested such a case where all locales got set to the same thing | 17:00 |
| sil2100 | cyphermox: which one? | 17:00 |
| seb128 | sil2100, ok, let's do that | 17:00 |
| seb128 | tedg, ^ side effect of your early branching btw :/ | 17:00 |
| cyphermox | seb128: yeah, upload directly | 17:00 |
| cyphermox | seb128: I don't think it's an issue with branching | 17:01 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, sil2100: thanks | 17:01 |
| cyphermox | but I'll take a look at the config again to check what'sup | 17:01 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, well, it's an issue of creating stable branches without making them be under CI | 17:01 |
| cyphermox | seb128: they should be under CI already | 17:02 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, sil2100 says it's a fginther thing | 17:02 |
| sil2100 | https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/cupstream2distro-config/apps_click_friends_hud_indicators_13.10/+merge/191788 <- this would have to be in, and fginther would have to set up the mergers/CI for those new branches | 17:02 |
| sil2100 | cyphermox: they can't be in CI if they're not in cu2d-config | 17:02 |
| cyphermox | the config should be sufficient for the branch to be covered | 17:02 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/libindicator/always-create-widgets/+merge/191701 didn't get CI review/comments nor merging though :/ | 17:02 |
| seb128 | k | 17:02 |
| sil2100 | cyphermox: if cu2d-config doesn't have the /13.10 branches in it and fginther doesn't pull that in on the mergers side, there's no CI | 17:02 |
| Laney | Is anyone on devicekit-devel? | 17:03 |
| cyphermox | sil2100: I understand that but it should have been added as part of the procedure of branching, a few weeks ago | 17:03 |
| seb128 | Laney, pitti maybe? | 17:03 |
| Laney | If so, please bounce me hadess' email | 17:03 |
| sil2100 | cyphermox: sadly it was not | 17:03 |
| sil2100 | cyphermox: me and fginther started doing that yesterday evening | 17:04 |
| Laney | Removed signals: | 17:04 |
| Laney | - changed (both UpClient and UpDevice), device-changed (connect to the | 17:04 |
| Laney | "notify" signal for the properties that interest you instead) | 17:04 |
| Laney | Changed | 17:04 |
| Laney | ignore "Changed" | 17:04 |
| cyphermox | sil2100: ping the ci team on #ubuntu-ci-eng, they can do it | 17:04 |
| cyphermox | it shouldn't ever have to be only fginther | 17:04 |
| seb128 | Laney, is that going to create issues? | 17:05 |
| Laney | It's going to create porting | 17:05 |
| Laney | It now implements the proper PropertiesChanged signal which is great, but killing the old interface without any transition period is unfortunate IMO | 17:06 |
| seb128 | yeah :/ | 17:06 |
| Laney | (D-Bus and GLib API changes are pretty much the same) | 17:06 |
| Laney | ok, noted to follow that up on monday too | 17:07 |
| Laney | have a good weekend ;-) | 17:07 |
| seb128 | Laney, thanks, you too | 17:08 |
| kenvandine | have a good weekend Laney! | 17:08 |
| Laney | yeah, we have http://gamecity.org/about in town which I'll check out :D | 17:09 |
| * Laney waves | 17:09 | |
| seb128 | nice | 17:09 |
| seb128 | Laney, have fun! | 17:09 |
| tedg | seb128, To be fair, I asked the CI folks before doing it. They told me it wasn't a big deal, and I should start branching. | 17:12 |
| seb128 | tedg, sure, easy for them to tell, they don't have code to land | 17:15 |
| bcurtiswx | why would I still be receiving empathy messages even though i've quit empathy ? | 18:00 |
| bcurtiswx | how does one completely turn off empathy ? | 18:00 |
| bcurtiswx | is that more of a #ubuntu question tho, i'll head over there | 18:00 |
| bcurtiswx | hmm, i c.. it's directly integrated into the status set in messaging-menu. If you're not "offline" on there, you will still continue to receive messages | 18:04 |
| bcurtiswx | i take my previous statement back, im offline and still receiving messages | 18:24 |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx, that seems buggy | 18:31 |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx, the fact that closing the empathy UI doesn't send you offline is a known/normal | 18:31 |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx, but setting the status offline should work | 18:32 |
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| bcurtiswx | seb128, OK thanks, i'll get a bug report done soon :) | 18:40 |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx, thanks | 18:40 |
| bcurtiswx | should the hud-service be taking up 15% of my 8GB of RAM ? | 20:06 |
| sarnold | bcurtiswx: discovering the amount of memory actually used is somewhat difficult. Or maybe, subtle. Check out the 'smem' tool, it tries to place blame on applications for memory usage in a different way that might be more instructive | 20:57 |
| filosofixit | Hi! I just upgraded to 13.10 amn everything work great, but I got two network-manager icons in my systray. One had all the functionality and the other just the possibillity two turn the NIC's on/off... I tried uninstalling and reinstalling network-manager but now I only got one icon but its not working at all... Anyone got a clue? | 21:26 |
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