[00:49] <bjsnider> well, i tried building the latest xchat-gnome, but after installing it, the scroll wheel doesn't work and neither does tab completion
[00:49] <bjsnider> well, scroll wheel in message window doesn't work
[00:50] <bjsnider> could be collateral damage from one of these patches i guess
[01:19] <nadrimajstor> phillw: I've made a proper cdimage mirror for lubuntu and ubuntu-gnome
[01:19] <nadrimajstor> take a look at http://ubuntu-cdimage.nadrimajstor.com/
[01:21] <nadrimajstor> I had not enlisted this mirror anywhere...
[01:21] <nadrimajstor> So add it where you find fit...
[07:24] <Forage> congrats and many thanks for ubuntu gnome 13.10!
[07:25] <Forage> love the more consistent startup styling (grub, splash, login)
[07:28] <Forage> because I updated from 13.04 (incl. stable and staging ppa) and now have 13.10 (incl. only stable ppa) installed, I'm a bit unsure if and where I can report a specific bug.
[07:29] <Forage> The only noticeable issue I found is the background jumping from one screen to another and back again when going to the activities overview
[07:30] <Forage> I've got a dual monitor setup with the right-hand monitor as the primary. A single background is spanned across both monitors
[07:32] <Forage> When I go to the overview, the left-hand monitor background part shifts to the right-hand monitor, causing a quite disruptive screen change
[07:34] <Forage> This could be a gnome thing, but is it "fair" to report with the mixed packages from different sources?
[07:35] <Forage> should I upgrade to the staging and next ppa first?
[07:36] <Forage> if yes, how "stable" is the staging ppa at this stage, compared to staging for 13.04?
[07:39] <darkxst> bjsnider, yeh send it through
[12:03] <mgedmin> is the control center supposed to look like this in Ubuntu GNOME (with the PPA enabled)?  http://imgur.com/ROkaieI
[12:05] <mgedmin> better question: what do I need to apt-get remove to get rid of that Landscape thing that makes the window too high for my 1366x768 screen?
[12:05] <mgedmin> *too tall
[12:42] <mgedmin> anybody here using chromium?
[12:42] <mgedmin> is it just me or are fonts rendered weird in chromium 29 in ubuntu gnome 13.10?
[12:42] <mgedmin> especially in the address bar: the text even jumps up and down while I'm typing
[12:52] <Forage> mgedmin: what's wrong with that control center?
[12:52] <Forage> looks fine to me
[12:52] <mgedmin> it does not fit on my laptop's lcd (720p)
[12:54] <Forage> ah
[12:55] <Forage> you got two additional icons creating the extra lines
[12:56] <Forage> one flag in the top section and the landscape service in the bottom section
[12:56] <Forage> stupid you can't resize that window
[13:03] <bjsnider> darkxst, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6257032/
[13:24] <mgedmin> okay, apt-get remove landscape-client-ui-install gets rid of one rown
[13:24] <mgedmin> but the window still doesn't fit in 1366x768
[13:43] <bjsnider> mgedmin, that's how large it is here, and it doesn't resize
[13:47] <erle-> gnome-panel crashes in saucy
[13:47] <erle-> i filed a bug
[13:48] <erle-> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/1241571
[13:48] <bjsnider> didn't know it was still there
[13:54] <bjsnider> mgedmin, i asked the devs about this and they responded that ubuntu's gcc fork has that issue, but the thing should actually look like this: http://imgur.com/ApIAdkc
[14:12] <jpnurmi> top-left hot corner no longer reacts to hover after upgrading to 13.10 - any tips?
[14:13] <jpnurmi> i can't find anything relevant in settings or tweak tool
[14:14] <Forage> jpnurmi: just a hunch, try pushing a bit more in the corner. I found the same thing with the notification bar not appearing any more
[14:14] <Forage> bit of getting used to
[14:15] <jpnurmi> Forage: nope, unfortunately doesn't help... it requires a click now :/
[14:15] <Forage> hmm, shouldn't be
[14:16] <Forage> who uses that anyway? ;-P Can hardly keep my hand off the "Windows" key any more :-D
[14:17] <jpnurmi> i tend to use it if my hand happens to be on the mouse :p
[14:17] <Forage> takes you way off course, less efficient :-P
[14:18] <jpnurmi> well, the other hand might be holding a coffee cup so not necessary that inefficient ;)
[14:20] <jpnurmi> ooh... it's actually synergy that breaks it
[14:20] <Forage> sounds likely
[14:21] <bjsnider> no it doesn't require a click
[14:22] <bjsnider> it requires a quick movement
[14:22] <bjsnider> move it quicker
[14:22] <Forage> man, long time since I used that application. I'm even a bit surprised it still exists
[14:22] <Forage> loved it back in the days
[14:24] <jpnurmi> yea, sometimes it feels like it's causing more trouble than being helpful
[14:26] <Forage> are there issues with gnome-terminal that prevents being updated to 3.8 in the gnome3 stable ppa for Saucy? I found that to be the only Raring remnant not present in a ppa after the upgrade
[14:26] <Forage> (just out of interest, it's working fine for me)
[14:30] <bjsnider> i'm going to be working on totem this weekend
[14:32] <Forage> bjsnider: name confusion or different subject? ;-)
[14:33] <bjsnider> i just say whatever pops into my head at a given moment
[14:33] <Forage> hehe
[14:34] <Forage> by the way, will it be "safer" to use the staging ppa for Saucy after it gets a round of 3.10.1 updates?
[14:39] <Forage> You never guess what my next question is going to be ;-P
[15:13] <Krukas> Hello, how is the upgrade process from ubuntu gnome 13.04 to 13.10. or is het better to do a clean install?
[15:49] <Forage> Krukas: upgrade works fine
[15:50] <Forage> "better" all depends on personal preferences
[15:51] <Krukas> okey thx
[15:51] <Forage> for a fine working system there's no reason to do a clean install
[16:01] <Forage> wtf, any of you getting a long list of installed gnome extensions as well after the upgrade? If I go to the website, it lists all kinds of extensions I never used
[16:02] <Forage> WTF! you guys added extension to the distro by default?!
[16:09] <Forage> darn, ubuntu-gnome-desktop depends on gnome-shell-extensions
[16:12]  * Forage not liking that move... cluttering the extensions list
[16:20] <topyli> many of those default extensions are needed for classic mode
[16:20] <topyli> maybe all of them even? i don't know
[16:31] <roasted> I just bumped my laptop to 3.10 before I left for lunch. anxious to get back and see if it worked well
[18:37] <roasted> hello from 3.10/3.8/3.6 on ubuntu gnome 13.10
[18:45] <roasted> maybe I said that wrong. Perhaps the next and staging PPA upgrade the 3.6 bits to 3.8 or newer?
[18:53] <cyberalex4life> hello!
[19:16] <topyli> roasted: next+staging means 3.10
[20:51] <FrazerXD349> Hello?
[20:51] <FrazerXD349> Does anybody know how I can install Gnome 3.10 in Ubuntu Gnome 13.10?
[20:53] <darkxst> roasted, just install gnome3 ppa if you only want the missing 3.8 bits
[20:55] <FrazerXD349> I want the latest features in version 3.10
[20:56] <FrazerXD349> is it just to add ppa repository and write apt-get install gnome
[20:59] <darkxst> FrazerXD349, install gnome3-next and gnome3-staging PPA's
[20:59] <darkxst> bjsnider, what was disabled? >> * Disabled  since the telepathy-account-widgets code is underlinked. ???
[21:01] <FrazerXD349> thanks darkxst, I'll try it
[21:01] <darkxst> FrazerXD349, then just use software updater or use apt-get  dist-upgrade
[21:13] <bjsnider> darkxst, that was a duplicate of something further down. here's a revised version: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6259825/
[21:17] <bjsnider> darkxst, they've got gnome-music packaged in debian now
[21:33] <darkxst> bjsnider, I see
[21:33] <bjsnider> i'll build it here and see if it works and whatnot
[21:33] <darkxst> we can copy it to the ppa, however will probably want to un-drop the ubuntu-notify patch
[21:44] <FrazerXD349> Hello?
[21:44] <FrazerXD349> Does anyone know how to install Gnome Software Center in Ubuntu Gnome 13.10?
[21:56] <darkxst> bjsnider, uploaded empathy
[21:59] <bjsnider> coolio
[22:17] <Dudytz> hi all! I have installed the Ubuntu Gnome 13.10 with PPA Gnome 3.10 ... in the GNOME Terminal > Edit > Profile Preferences ... is not present the Background tab for change the transparency ... is a bug of Ubuntu Gnome or a know bug in the Gnome 3.10?
[22:18] <darkxst> bjsnider, and gnome-music as well
[22:20] <darkxst> bjsnider, for future reference try to format changelog more like this https://launchpadlibrarian.net/154181521/empathy_3.10.1-0ubuntu1~saucy1_amd64.changes
[23:18] <roasted> darkxst: oh, so 13.10 = 3.8 with bits of 3.6, but 13.10 with gnome3 = full 100% 3.8 environment. Meanwhile, gnome3 + staging = full (full?) 3.10 environment.
[23:23] <roasted> darkxst: speaking of which, will a full 3.8 environment always require a PPA in 13.10? Or is that something that regular system updates can eventually patch in?