[06:42] <Squirm> morning
[06:42] <Kilos> hi superfly and others
[06:43] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[07:08] <mazal> Morning all
[07:08] <Kilos> hi mazal 
[07:08] <mazal> Gaanit oom ?
[07:08] <Kilos> ok dankie en jy?
[07:09] <mazal> Goed dankie , dis Vrydag :-)
[07:09] <Kilos> haha
[07:09] <mazal> So how is 13.10 for those who have it ?
[07:10] <Kilos> yeah
[07:23] <Squirm> my internet is too slow to pull it down today
[07:24] <Squirm> will try tonight
[07:24] <superfly> hi Kilos Squirm 
[07:28] <Squirm> hey there superfly 
[07:32] <mazal> I'm curious about it , but don't have time for an install
[07:32] <Kilos> haha i dont have data to fetch it
[07:33] <Kilos> is this the one where they have dropped x11
[07:33] <Kilos> ill need to stay up late to get it
[07:34] <mazal> Kilos, why don't you use the wget and at command thing ?
[07:34] <Kilos> oh ya
[07:34] <Kilos> forgot about that
[07:35] <Kilos> if its the same hard work unity ill wait for next release
[07:37] <mazal> I'm gonna stay on LTS. Don't have time anymore to re-install every 6 months
[07:38] <Kilos> maybe ill wait for 14.04 too, one never knows how the bug bites
[07:38] <Kilos>  but its nice to see how things are developing
[07:43] <inetpro> good evening
[07:43] <Kilos> lo inetpro 
[08:35] <Kilos> hi psyatw 
[08:37] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[10:10] <Kilos> wbb going to kde
[10:14] <tinuva> sheesh how many people is downloading ubuntu 13.10 in SA
[10:14] <tinuva> our mirror is maxing out it's 100Mbps port as of 7am this morning
[10:19] <Squirm> tinuva: no idea
[10:19] <Squirm> mazal: don't reinstall, upgrade ?
[10:19]  * Squirm waits for the new mint
[10:19] <Squirm> :)
[10:20] <Squirm> though, I want to stick 13.10 on my S3
[10:21] <Squirm> meh, found a post but an issue is no GSM :/
[10:39] <ThatGraemeGuy> hi peeps
[10:46] <mazal> Hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[11:22] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[11:51] <charl_> good afternoon all
[11:51] <charl_> Maaz: coffee on
[11:51]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[11:54] <charl_> i see saucy salamander was released yesterday
[11:54] <charl_> i could not have thought of a worse name
[11:54] <Kilos> hi charl
[11:54] <Kilos> aw forgot the tail
[11:54] <charl_> hi Kilos 
[11:55] <Kilos> thats a lekker name man
[11:55] <charl_> the previous names were nonsense but this one takes the cake
[11:55] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl_!
[11:55] <charl_> Maaz: thanks
[11:55] <Maaz> charl_: No problem
[11:55] <Kilos> a saucy chick is a cute chick
[11:55] <charl_> in europe if you say a saucy chick it means a filthy wh***
[11:55] <Kilos> so its a cute lizard thing
[11:56] <Kilos> ya well you peeps are backward
[11:56] <charl_> saucy, seriously ?!
[11:56] <charl_> it sounds gross
[11:56] <Kilos> QA, define saucy
[11:56] <QA> Kilos: 55 Moby Thesaurus words for "saucy": arch, arrogant, audacious, bantam, biggety, bluff, bold, brash, brassy, brazen, bumptious, challenging, cheeky, chutzpadik, cocky, combative, contemptuous, contumelious, crusty, daring, defiant, defying, derisive, disdainful, disregardful, disrespectful, facy, flip, flippant, fresh, frivolous, gally, gratuitous, greatly daring, impertinent, impudent, insolent, intrusive, light-minded, malapert, meddleso…
[11:56] <Kilos> oh my
[11:56] <charl_> you see what i mean :)
[11:57] <Kilos> ya
[11:57] <Kilos> hehe
[11:57] <charl_> :D
[11:57] <mazal> "bumptious" lol
[11:57] <Kilos> hehe
[11:57] <mazal> I don't even wonna know what that means :)
[11:58] <Kilos> Maaz, define bumptious
[11:58] <Maaz> Kilos: Bumptious \Bump"tious\, a. Self-conceited; forward; pushing. [Colloq.] --Halliwell. [1913 Webster], bumptious adj 1: offensively self-assertive [syn: {bumptious}, {self- assertive}]
[11:58] <Kilos> sjoe
[11:58] <charl_> saucy salamander that sounds like something the french would eat
[11:59] <Kilos> haha
[11:59] <Kilos> inetpro, begin vroer werk
[11:59] <Kilos> wolke kom
[12:00] <mazal> I wonder what they gonna do once they reach z
[12:00] <mazal> I see the Ubuntu one servers are fruits , maybe go with that
[12:01] <charl_> you mean the names of the ubuntu one servers running at canonical?
[12:02] <charl_> afaik you can't run your own ubuntu one server, the server software is proprietary
[12:02] <mazal> Ya , for example I am currently connected to grape.canonical.com
[12:03] <charl_> isee
[12:03] <charl_> *i see
[12:04] <mazal> At first I wondered what connections those are until I realized it's as soon as UO connect hehehe
[12:04] <charl_> well at least you are monitoring your connections, that's a good thing
[12:04] <charl_> what software do you use?
[12:04] <charl_> wireshark?
[12:06] <mazal> conky
[12:06] <mazal> My current conky config show inbound and outbound connections
[12:07] <charl_> oh very nice
[12:08] <charl_> have any of you people tried sparkleshare or bittorrent sync?
[12:08] <mazal> Not me no
[12:09] <charl_> i like the idea of sparkleshare but i don't like that bittorrent sync is proprietary
[12:09] <charl_> and even though all the data is encrypted i still don't like my data being passed through random nodes on the internet
[12:09] <charl_> after the recent nsa leaks i am starting to question the cryptography used in a lot of implementations
[12:09] <charl_> particularly when it relates to pseudorandom number generation
[12:48] <mazal> Enjoy the weekend everyone
[12:48] <mazal> Cheers
[13:31] <Kilos> yo laim
[13:31] <Kilos> liamT, 
[13:32] <Squirm> 1
[13:32] <Squirm> hour
[13:32] <Squirm> to
[13:32] <Squirm> go
[13:32] <Kilos> haha
[13:33] <Squirm> I'm tired of today
[13:33] <Kilos> big storm brewing here
[13:33] <Squirm> been drizzle for the past 2 days
[13:34] <Kilos> we hoping and praying for some rain
[13:34] <Squirm> It's cold
[13:34] <Squirm> we've had a max of 11 in the past 2 days
[13:34] <Squirm> with a min of about 9
[13:37] <Kilos> we had min 17 last night
[13:37] <Kilos> yo space 
[13:44] <charl_> hi Squirm 
[13:45] <Squirm> hey charl_ 
[14:18] <charl_> wb Kilos 
[14:18] <Kilos> ty charl_ 
[14:21] <Kilos> maybe mage visits today still
[14:50] <Kilos> hey charl_ psyatw have you guys tried to fsck a windows drive?
[14:50] <Kilos> does it work
[14:50] <charl_> no idea, never tried it
[14:51] <charl_> but it doesn't sound too logical to me, for windows drives you have chkdsk
[14:51] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[14:51] <psyatw> hmm
[14:51] <charl_> hi psyatw 
[14:51] <psyatw> yes
[14:51] <psyatw> hi charl_
[14:51] <Kilos> ya but how do you chkdsk a drive that dont boot man
[14:51] <charl_> boot with freedos on a flash drive
[14:51] <charl_> or you can even run it inside a dos emulator
[14:51] <Kilos> i know fsck -f gets an external going again
[14:52] <Kilos> no man i want linux tools to work for me
[14:52] <charl_> ah here you go: ntfsfix
[14:53] <Kilos> is that a command
[14:53] <charl_> it's part of package ntfsprogs that is installed as standard
[14:53] <charl_> yes
[14:53] <charl_> source: http://askubuntu.com/questions/86086/fsck-cant-find-fsck-ntfs
[14:53] <Kilos> ty
[14:54] <charl_> np
[14:57] <charl_> whow this is amazing !!!
[14:57] <charl_> 7000 verkaufte Tickets in 7 Sekunden, bevor der PreSale schließt – ist das ein neuer Rekord? #30c3
[14:57] <charl_> https://twitter.com/nodrama_de/status/391202012786089985
[14:57] <charl_> they literally sold 7000 tickets in 7 seconds before the presale closed to this year's chaos communication congress
[14:57] <Kilos> whew
[14:59] <charl_> i wonder if the nsa has anything to do with it
[15:13] <Kilos> wow peeps want $16 and up for a photo of a flash drive
[15:14] <charl_> what
[15:14] <Kilos> mad hey
[15:18] <charl_> i have three flash drives lying here next to me
[15:18] <charl_> i'll make some photos for free :)
[15:18] <Kilos> haha ty
[15:19] <Kilos> and a spanner
[15:19] <Kilos> what do win peeps use as an icon for a tool kit
[15:20] <charl_> no idea, a hammer and a toolbox is what i've seen at some places
[15:21] <Kilos> lol
[15:29] <charl_> quite honestly i never really look at the icons
[15:30] <charl_> i only run win8 inside a VM at work
[15:30] <charl_> mainly to use office and pl/sql developer cause they don't run on linux
[15:30] <Kilos> ah
[15:31] <charl_> so this is really weird
[15:32] <charl_> i upgraded my vps from ubuntu 13.04 to ubuntu 13.10 last night
[15:32] <charl_> i ran the do-release-upgrade script
[15:32] <charl_> the upgrade went fine, the server rebooted
[15:32] <charl_> when it came back up i portscanned it with nmap -p 0- and there were some random high-numbered tcp ports open
[15:32] <charl_> thing is, it kept changing rapidly
[15:33] <charl_> i couldn't see any processes running on those ports with netstat -tulpen
[15:33] <charl_> i ended up wiping the server and putting ubuntu 13.04 back on
[15:33] <Kilos> ouch
[15:33] <charl_> cause it runs my mail so i don't want any security risks
[15:34] <charl_> that is super weird, i wonder what could have caused that
[15:34] <Kilos> some settings that had to be done
[15:34] <charl_> i have no idea but it just freaked me out
[15:34] <Kilos> thats what i had against 13.04, you had to do manual settings to get it to work like 12.04
[15:35] <Kilos> turn somw stuff on and others off
[15:35] <charl_> well it's logical that with every new version some things would change
[15:35] <charl_> but the above was Just Plain Weird (TM)
[15:35] <Kilos> no man for instance
[15:35] <Kilos> they shouldnt hide the extra workspaces
[15:36] <Kilos> disble them that is
[15:36] <Kilos> disable
[15:36] <charl_> i think very few people used the extra workspaces
[15:36] <charl_> that's probably why
[15:36] <Kilos> no matter 
[15:36] <Kilos> 12.04 showed 4
[15:36] <charl_> strange thing is, apple introduced that in osx lion
[15:36] <Kilos> 13.04 showed 1
[15:37] <charl_> oh yeah that's strange
[15:37] <charl_> that's just plain weird actually, why only show one, show at least 2 or don't show any at all
[15:37] <Kilos> and after lotsa googling its just a setting to untick
[15:38] <charl_> Yet More Plain Weird (TM)
[15:38] <charl_> is that in unity? or some other desktop
[15:38] <Kilos> lol like i use 10 and was shocked when they were all gone after not deleting /home
[15:38] <Kilos> ubity
[15:39] <charl_> i use i3 and can dynamically make as many workspaces as i want
[15:39] <charl_> i like that more actually
[15:39] <Kilos> thats where kde is still kiff
[15:39] <Kilos> unity
[15:39] <Kilos> whew typing bad today
[15:39] <charl_> nah i myself was not properly awake, i took the day off and slept in this morning
[15:39] <Kilos> i3?
[15:40] <charl_> yeah http://i3wm.org/
[15:40] <charl_> been using it a couple of months now, completely hooked
[15:40] <Kilos> oh
[15:40] <Kilos> kde you can make lots easy like 10.10 was
[15:40] <charl_> kde is still extremely good yes
[15:41] <charl_> slow, but good
[15:41] <Kilos> yeah i like
[15:41] <Kilos> but 12.04 unity aint bad and faster than kde
[15:41] <charl_> telepathy is one of my favourite applications http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_Telepathy
[15:42] <Kilos> did you look at rhinolinux
[15:42] <charl_> ktorrent is also extremely good http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KTorrent
[15:42] <charl_> no checking it out now
[15:42] <Kilos> some oke was here yesterday promoting and looking for feedback from clever peeps
[15:43] <charl_> site doesn't look like much
[15:44] <Kilos> comes in a few flavours
[15:44] <charl_> not even finding it on distrowatch
[15:44] <Kilos> kde included
[15:44] <charl_> well lotsa distros have a kde flavour, mint too
[15:44] <charl_> you gotta do better than that :)
[15:44] <Kilos> didnt you read logs
[15:45] <charl_> problem is, there are just too many distros out there right now, you have to really do something special to get attention
[15:45] <charl_> nah lemme go and read them
[15:45] <Kilos> he had a lot to say
[15:45] <Kilos> from 08.27 yesterday
[15:46] <charl_> he brags about reviews on softpedia? seriously?!
[15:46] <charl_> he/she
[15:48] <charl_> i'm just plain suspicious of a distro you don't even find on distrowatch
[15:49] <charl_> nah i can't be bothered to put time into even trying it, just checked out the "about" page http://www.rhinolinux.com/portal/index.php/intro
[15:49] <charl_> says absolutely nothing about what differentiates rhinolinux from any other distro
[15:49] <Kilos> hehe
[15:49] <charl_> just talks about operating systems and linux in general
[15:50] <Kilos> ill stick to buntu for now
[15:50] <charl_> yup +1
[17:00] <kbmonkey> ello o/
[17:12] <psychicist> hello kbmonkey 
[17:13] <kbmonkey> hello psychicist - how are you ?
[17:39] <Kilos> hi kbmonkey  psychicist 
[17:41] <kbmonkey> hello Kilos 
[17:41]  * kbmonkey sends some rain
[17:41] <Kilos> ty
[17:43] <kbmonkey> yw
[17:43] <kbmonkey> there is so much of it
[17:43] <Kilos> hehe
[17:44] <kbmonkey> keke
[17:44] <Kilos> still nothing here. stormed a bit but no water
[17:47] <kbmonkey> hmm
[18:33] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:51] <psychicist> kbmonkey:, I am fine, thank you. how are you?
[18:51] <psychicist> I was preparing dinner
[18:54] <kbmonkey> good thanks. I am preparing some popcorn now