[00:00] <sam113101> how do I make the caps lock key act as a second backspace key?
[00:00] <smthnew> hello guys. Could anybody advise me, how to find ftp folder from ftp user on ubuntu server under root?
[00:00] <snex> ?
[00:00] <snex> _
[00:00] <snex> ?
[00:00] <snex> hello?
[00:00] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, I just used /sites-available and copied and modified the existing default file
[00:00] <FloodBot1> snex: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:00] <snex> anyone here?
[00:00] <codephobic> fedeisas, I've found some new access and error logs, just looking through them now
[00:01] <snex> im getting the sense this wont be the kind of chat im looking fore
[00:01] <snex> for
[00:01] <hitsujiTMO> are the configs still softlinked in /sites-enabled ?
[00:01] <fedeisas> sometimes when you update the sites-enabled and sites-available folder gets rewritten
[00:01] <wilee-nilee> snex: his support not chat is all.
[00:01] <chare> its official I cannot format a partition during Saucy installation without it failing, how do I do that manually through Live CD
[00:01] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, yep
[00:01] <wilee-nilee> this*
[00:02] <codephobic> fedeisas, all my configs are still there in /sites-available/ and I can't get a2ensite to work.
[00:02] <fedeisas> and in sites-enable?
[00:02] <wilee-nilee> chare: gparted works, you may have to many pending, are you aware of  the limitations?
[00:03] <spydon> chare: you can partition with gparted through a live cd
[00:03] <smthnew> so, nobody knows?
[00:03] <codephobic> fedeisas, I can't find any errors relating to accessing the site.
[00:03] <codephobic> nothing new there, post upgrade.
[00:03] <chare> ok guys going to try gparted through live cd
[00:03] <chare> THIS BETTER WORK
[00:03] <hitsujiTMO> codephobic: whats the output of ls -l /etc/apache2/sites-enabled
[00:04] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, it lists all the sites I expect to have virtualhosting for
[00:04] <fahadash> smthnew: Are you trying to see which landing folder shows up if a user connects through ftp ?
[00:04] <blz> Hi, I think i accidentally removed my user from the sudo group and now I don't have any root access on any account
[00:04] <blz> what can I do?
[00:04] <blz> this is a headless machine, btw
[00:04] <fedeisas> remember that apache reads your sites from sited-enabled. You have to make a symlink between available and enabled. ie: ln -s /etc/apache2/sites-available/default /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/default
[00:04] <nicksloan> where do I read about the build process for python?
[00:04] <hitsujiTMO> are the symlinks correct?
[00:04] <codephobic> could it be a question of root access? they all belong to root root, now.
[00:04] <nicksloan> for example, who is the maintainer? are any patches applied? etc
[00:05] <fedeisas> is apache receiving your request? Can you see it on access.log?
[00:05] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, the symlinks look good
[00:05] <fedeisas> if it's a permission error, you should see it on error.log
[00:05] <smthnew> yes it is. I just upload some info via ftp and want to pickup
[00:05] <codephobic> they're all "../sites-available/..."
[00:05] <frodopwns> Is this the kind of thing I would want to do to make a user for celery to run as? "sudo useradd -r -s /bin/false celery"
[00:06] <stewart_> hi codephobic have you defined a server alias
[00:06] <codephobic> fedeisas, that's the strange thing, even though I'm trying to access the site in chrome, I see no access/error logs in the log files.
[00:06] <hitsujiTMO> codephobic: then as fedeisas says check the global error log ...
[00:06] <Wug> Nothing i've thrown at it has had any effect.  New question. I can no longer see any of my desktop icons, nor can I get any context menus right clicking on the desktop.  The files are all there, but the desktop is blank.
[00:06] <stewart_> and a server name
[00:06] <smthnew> but there are root user in SSH, and ftp folder under ftp user. I even dont know how to reach ftp's users folders - there are no /home/ftp/ folder
[00:06] <Wug> (this was an issue before too, but I decided to pick and choose my battles)
[00:06] <codephobic> ah
[00:06] <codephobic> I just saw the access log
[00:07] <hitsujiTMO> codephobic: is the port being blocked?
[00:07] <codephobic> it updated quite late
[00:07] <codephobic> hmm
[00:07] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, I used to have firestarter firewall installed, but that's been removed (it seems).
[00:07] <codephobic> Can't find it, so can't try switching it off
[00:08] <fedeisas> it's apache service started?
[00:08] <codephobic> but I can access other virtualhost websites, served from VMs that are running in the background
[00:08] <fedeisas> you can install nmap and check if port 80 is open..
[00:08] <codephobic> fedeisas, yes apache is running, I get directed to my default page
[00:08] <smthnew> found it /srv/ftp/
[00:09] <fedeisas> and no logs whatsoever?
[00:09] <smthnew> thanks to all, question is closed for me
[00:09] <blz> I accidentally removed my user on a headless server from the sudo group and now I have no root privileges whatsoever on my machine.  What can I do to rectify this?
[00:09] <stewart_> how are you defining the virtual host <VirtualHost *:80>
[00:09] <stewart_>  then with ServerName www.example.com then the normal stuff and </VirtualHost>
[00:10] <codephobic> fedeisas, I think I have found something in the access.log
[00:10] <Jordan_U> blz: Are you able to physically access the server?
[00:10] <stewart_> and in ports.conf make sure you have NameVirtualHost *:80
[00:10] <codephobic> the log indicates the localhost ip (127.0.0.1) as the ip that chrome is requesting
[00:10] <blz> Jordan_U, yes, otherwise I'd be on #suicide  ^^
[00:11] <codephobic> but I setup the hosts file for my local network ip (192.168.1.33)
[00:11] <codephobic> Would this be some default apache config issues
[00:11] <codephobic> that makes it listen on localhost only?
[00:11] <fedeisas> no
[00:11] <codephobic> still doesn't make sense to me though
[00:11] <codephobic> ah
[00:11] <fedeisas> /etc/hosts
[00:11] <fedeisas> is that ok?
[00:11] <codephobic> yep
[00:12] <fedeisas> are you accesing via url or ip?
[00:12] <codephobic> both
[00:12] <ubuntuaddicted> i try to go to  tty1 session so that I can kill gdm so I can install the nvidia 319.60 but my tty1 session is a black screen with no words. who can help me fix this?
[00:12] <codephobic> just tried my network IP
[00:12] <blz> Jordan_U, so what should I be doing?
[00:12] <codephobic> get directed to the default apache web page
[00:12] <fedeisas> if no virtualhost can match you server name it'll go to the default apache page
[00:12] <stewart_> if you question is can you ping the name www.example.com from your apache server and if no then yes you need to add it to /etc/hosts
[00:12] <fedeisas> try to change one of your virtual hosts to capture ALL
[00:13] <fedeisas> and disable the rest
[00:13] <SunTsu> codephobic: please pastebin the output of httpd -S
[00:13] <codephobic> fedeisas, yeah that's what's happening but I can't seem to work out why
[00:13] <codephobic> SunTsu, one moment, I'll just check that out
[00:13] <fedeisas> use pastebin to show us your virtualhosts file
[00:13] <codephobic> k
[00:13] <SunTsu> codephobic: httpd -S | pastebinit should do the trick
[00:13] <stewart_> and include /etc/apache2/ports.conf
[00:14] <ubuntuaddicted> is there some trick to getting tty1 sessions working with the nvidia binary drivers? mine is just a black screen, all 6 of them
[00:15] <SunTsu> ubuntuaddicted: works for me, always did
[00:15] <ubuntuaddicted> SunTsu, you're using grub2?
[00:15] <SunTsu> ubuntuaddicted: yeah
[00:15] <bootkiller> Hi, shouldn't radeon UVD work out-of-the-box on 13.10?
[00:15] <fedeisas> I just wanna share with you that after fighting for 5 hours with chgrp and chmod, I've found setfacl and now IM HAPPY
[00:16] <ubuntuaddicted> SunTsu, i don't recall ever having an issue either but recently started using an HDTV via VGA cause my monitor died. would that have any effect?
[00:16] <codephobic> SunTsu, "command httpd -S" not found :(
[00:16] <codephobic> http://pastebin.com/LpbEPFJM << one of my virtual hosts
[00:17] <codephobic> fedeisas, I've pasted up my config file: http://pastebin.com/LpbEPFJM
[00:17] <SunTsu> codephobic: er, sorry, it's apache2 on ubuntu
[00:17] <codephobic> SunTsu, yes
[00:17] <SunTsu> codephobic: therefore apache2 -S ...
[00:17] <codephobic> ah
[00:17] <codephobic> lol
[00:17] <codephobic> k
[00:17] <hitsujiTMO> codephobic: are accessing these locally?
[00:18] <blz> I accidentally removed my user on a headless server from the sudo group and now I have no root privileges whatsoever on my machine.  What can I do to rectify this?  I have physical access to the machine
[00:18] <hitsujiTMO> as in are you on the machine that apache is running?
[00:18] <graphiteuser> Hello
[00:18] <codephobic> I'm accessing them both locally and through my network ip (192.168.1.33)
[00:19] <graphiteuser> I have here a laptop running ubuntu which I'm attempting to use to diagnose a problem with a SATA windows boot disk, which I've attached via USB. It isn't popping up as a filesystem; where can I check to see if it's being seen at all?
[00:19] <codephobic> SunTsu, this is the pastebin output of apache2 -S: http://pastebin.com/4DFewjzH
[00:20] <hitsujiTMO> blz: if you have physical access to the machine and can boot a rescue disk, mount the filesystem, open /etc/group and add your user to the sudo group
[00:20] <graphiteuser> I guess I'm looking for the linux equivalent of the Disk Management thing in windows, if such a thing exists.
[00:20] <blz> hitsujiTMO, rescue disk?  As in a live cd?
[00:20] <blz> or something different?
[00:20] <SunTsu> codephobic: doesn't look like apache is too happy about your config... "Syntax error on line 74 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf"
[00:21] <hitsujiTMO> blz yes
[00:21] <stewart_> I believe the servername should match codephobic
[00:21] <OerHeks> graphiteuser, first install ntfs-3g for access ntfs partitions
[00:21] <SunTsu> blz: you could use init=sh as a kernel option when booting up
[00:21] <wolfy1339> how do i lock the directory /var/lib/dpkg
[00:21] <graphiteuser> OerHeks: Ah is that not available by default?
[00:21] <blz> SunTsu, that sounds like a palatable option.  How do I do that?
[00:22] <stewart_> codephobic ServerName  www.testing.dev
[00:22] <OerHeks> graphiteuser, nope, sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[00:22] <graphiteuser> oh boy, apt
[00:22] <graphiteuser> here we go :(
[00:22] <codephobic> I'm just opening the file now, gonna check that line
[00:22] <moppy> what is the version of Nautilus in saucy please?
[00:22] <wolfy1339> how do i lock the directory /var/lib/dpkg ??
[00:23] <blz> SunTsu, note that this is ubuntu server, in case it makes a difference
[00:23] <codephobic> stewart_, one mo. I'll just read the line for the above error.
[00:23] <SunTsu> blz: edit your grub command line, add init=/bin/sh to it and boot that thing. Do "mount -o rw /; mount -a", change /etc/group to your liking, do "sync", reboot
[00:23] <graphiteuser> "ntfs-3g is already the newest version"
[00:23] <OerHeks> graphiteuser, then use some forensic tools , this page may be any help >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[00:23] <blz> SunTsu, and editing the grub command line doesn't require root priviledges?
[00:23] <BrianH> graphiteuser: it doesn't show listed under Disks?
[00:24] <graphiteuser> I'm not so much after data recovery, I can do that on a windows box. I just want to see if the thing is still a valid SSD>
[00:24] <codephobic> SunTsu, I don't ... understand this,  line #74 "Mutex file:${APACHE_LOCK_DIR} default"
[00:24] <SunTsu> blz: no, it might require a password if you set one in grub, else you can do it
[00:24] <codephobic> stewart_, sorry could you explain the server name point?
[00:24] <graphiteuser> If I just type "mount", I get a list of mounted things, none of which looks like my SSD.
[00:25] <blz> SunTsu, okay, thank you
[00:25] <OerHeks> graphiteuser, your ssd should be available in nautilus filemanager standard.
[00:25] <Jordan_U> blz: SunTsu: It's much easier and more practical to just boot the recovery mode entry in the grub menu.
[00:25] <SunTsu> blz: btw.: http://www.softpanorama.org/Commercial_linuxes/Startup_and_shutdown/root_password_recovery.shtml
[00:26] <graphiteuser> by nautilus do you mean just a normal file browser window?
[00:26] <blz> SunTsu, thanks
[00:26] <graphiteuser> there's nothing in the left pane that looks like my SSD.
[00:26] <BrianH> graphiteuser: are you using a graphical installation of Ubuntu?
[00:26] <wolfy1339> how do i lock the directory /var/lib/dpkg ??
[00:26] <codephobic> stewart_, are you referring to the virtualhost config file pastebin? should I add "www." infront of the server name that I set?
[00:26] <blz> Jordan_U, hmm I never noticed it on this server, but maybe that's because it's been running headless for so long.  I'll give that a shot first, else try SunTsu's solution
[00:26] <graphiteuser> BrianH: Good grief I hope so :)
[00:26] <stewart_> codephobic Ok so SeverName will be www.example.com then you can have your ServerAlias as example.com or even add your ip address of the server 192.168.5.100
[00:27] <SunTsu> Jordan_U: yeah, or try single user mode
[00:27] <blz> U
[00:27] <SunTsu> blz: the page I pasted has some things you can try on it
[00:27] <blz> SunTsu, thanks!
[00:27] <codephobic> stewart_, ok, I'll give that a go. one mo.
[00:27] <graphiteuser> Anyway, I see no indication that my SSD has been mounted, but I am aware that USB things occasionally don't mount automatically.
[00:27] <hitsujiTMO> wolfy1339: you don't    what exctly are you trying to do?
[00:27] <stewart_> so the servername is inforcing the direct name and alias will be subdomains, ips and abbreviations of your domain name
[00:27] <Jordan_U> SunTsu: blz: The recovery mode entry is under the "Advanced options for Ubuntu" submenu on newer Ubuntu versions, and it starts in single user mode.
[00:28] <BrianH> graphiteuser: Open a terminal window and type "gnome-disks" and hit enter
[00:28] <subcool> Ok, im back..
[00:28] <BrianH> You can also find it by searching for "Disk" in the Unity search bar.
[00:28] <graphiteuser> gnome-disks: command not found
[00:28] <codephobic> stewart_, doesn't seem to have made any difference :(
[00:28] <BrianH> graphiteuser: what version of Ubuntu you using?
[00:29] <graphiteuser> No idea. How do If ind out?
[00:29] <subcool> SunTsu, the zfs didnt work.
[00:29] <blz> Jordan_U, this is ubuntu precise server ... should be newer enough, I hope
[00:29] <BrianH> graphiteuser: try "palimpsest"
[00:29] <graphiteuser> Aha
[00:29] <DenSaakalte> Guys, I ask again... Upgrading to 13.10 broke direct rendering, any guesses as to what I should check?
[00:29] <BrianH> graphiteuser: You must be on 12.04 or older then
[00:29] <graphiteuser> I can't remember. I just threw ubuntu on this netbook because win7 was slow.
[00:30] <BrianH> graphiteuser: no worries.  You could also install gparted if you need to partition the drives.
[00:30] <graphiteuser> It does claim that the main partition is ext4.
[00:30] <graphiteuser> Which is... inaccurate.
[00:30] <blz> Jordan_U, I'm only getting the plymouth splay screen and then it drops to a shell
[00:30] <subcool> SunTsu, what i dont understand is, idc if its ZFS. i need to mount it as a HDD not a ZFS or ext4. i have to run a recovery disk on it to retrieve the information from ext4 and ntfs.
[00:30] <blz> Jordan_U, how do I bring up the advanced options / recovery menu in 12.04?
[00:31] <codephobic> SunTsu, some updated error.log output: http://pastebin.com/qXn8Cs9Y
[00:31] <graphiteuser> Hmm. None of the things in this disk management util suggest any probems with the disk.
[00:31] <graphiteuser> I fear the win7 install has simply died, which is a real PITA.
[00:31] <codephobic> (error.log and access.log at /var/logs/apache2/ update veeery slowly. I just got updates now, for actions I took minutes ago)
[00:31]  * graphiteuser grumbles
[00:32] <wolfy1339> hitsujiTMO, i was trying to install a package but this error in the console came up
[00:32] <fedeisas> codephobic your virtualhost file ends in .conf?
[00:32] <stewart_> should also make sure you can ping www.example.com from your apache server
[00:33] <hitsujiTMO> wolfy1339: what was the exact command you typed?
[00:33] <graphiteuser> I'm assuming it would be an extremely bad idea to hit the "check file system" button on a disk whose filesystem has been misidentified.
[00:33] <stewart_> in ports.conf is the main apache config where you need to specify named hosts and ports that are open
[00:33] <wolfy1339> hitsujiTMO, sudo apt-get install wine1.4-i386
[00:34] <BrianH> graphiteuser: Why not just wipe it and reinstall the OS?
[00:34] <hitsujiTMO> wolfy1339: more than likely something else has locked the file ... try again
[00:34] <chare> what is was that stupid IBUS update message i saw after booting up
[00:34] <wolfy1339> i did try again multiple times already
[00:35] <Jordan_U> blz: Hold shift during boot, or for UEFI Systems press escape repeatedly during boot.
[00:35] <graphiteuser> BrianH: I would, but reinstalling all the apps is a massive pain in somewhere I'd rather not have pain.
[00:35] <blz> Jordan_U, haha just figured it out myself =)  Now that I'm at a root terminal, should I just do usermod -G root username ?
[00:35] <fedeisas> codephobic also:  AH00094: Command line: '/usr/sbin/apache2'
[00:35] <stewart_> then you also need to make the configs active within sites-available so you should ls sites-enabled and make sure there enabled
[00:35] <sam113101> how do I make the caps lock key act as a second backspace key?
[00:36] <fedeisas> codephobic also:   AH00526: Syntax error on line 74 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf:
[00:36] <codephobic> fedeisas, nope just testing.dev
[00:36] <fedeisas> please paste your apache2.conf
[00:36] <hitsujiTMO> wolfy1339: is update manager opened, or software center or synapics paxkage manager?
[00:36] <graphiteuser> I fear it's the only way out, unfortunately.
[00:36] <wolfy1339> hitsujiTMO, no
[00:36] <BrianH> graphiteuser: It happens.  Be sure to image the HDD next time.
[00:36] <fedeisas> in the mean time, rename your virtualhost to testing.dev.conf, as it is the new naming standard
[00:36] <blz> oh geez, I see what caused this mess... I did usermod -G instead of usermod -aG
[00:36] <blz> FFS...
[00:36] <fedeisas> your apache2.conf is including sites-enabled/*.conf
[00:37] <graphiteuser> wonder if I can recover stuff from my desktop...
[00:37] <codephobic> fedeisas,  line #74 "Mutex file:${APACHE_LOCK_DIR} default"
[00:37] <graphiteuser> what's weird is that it's seen the disk but not mounted it.
[00:37] <graphiteuser> Possibly because it's misidentified the filesystem.
[00:37] <codephobic> fedeisas, nope, just 000-default.conf and default-ssl.conf
[00:37] <hitsujiTMO> wolfy1339: run: sudo fuser -cuk /var/lib/dpkg/lock; sudo rm -f /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[00:37] <Jordan_U> blz: No, that would remove you from all other groups, and add you to the "root" group, which won't help you at all (and is likely a bad idea for other reasons).
[00:38] <fedeisas> codephobic please paste apache2.conf
[00:38] <codephobic> ah
[00:38] <BrianH> graphiteuser: install ntfs-3g if the drive is ntfs formatted
[00:38] <BrianH> graphiteuser: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[00:38] <codephobic> fedeisas, sorry, didn't see that post.
[00:38] <codephobic> one momem.
[00:38] <blz> Jordan_U, yeah I just realized that's what got me into this mess in the first place
[00:38] <codephobic> moment*
[00:38] <graphiteuser> BrianH: Apt claims it's already up to date.
[00:38] <blz> Jordan_U, I think I did a usermod -G on the user in question
[00:38] <BrianH> graphiteuser: what happens when you mount the drive?
[00:38] <hitsujiTMO> wolfy1339: then try to install the package again
[00:38] <blz> Jordan_U, on a related note... I tried usermod -aG sudo username from the root terminal in recoverymod but it's complaining that it can't lock /etc/passwd
[00:39] <graphiteuser> how would I do that
[00:39] <sam113101> how do I make the caps lock key act as a second backspace key?
[00:39] <graphiteuser> Oh. No. Crap. Wait.
[00:39] <BrianH> graphiteuser: read the link I posted.  It'll tell you.
[00:39] <esde> ive got a machine thats got an ssd and a large slave hdd, i'd like to setup a linux desktop os on the ssd and use the slave for storage. the slave hdd already has content on it, the drive is formatted NTFS, will i be able to see and use that data or will i need to migrate the data and format first?
[00:39] <graphiteuser> This laptop has an identical 128GB SSD in it.
[00:39] <graphiteuser> I mistook that SSD for the one under test.
[00:39]  * graphiteuser facepalms
[00:40] <esde> also, are there any special configuration for an ssd installation of ubuntu?
[00:40] <Jordan_U> blz: mount -o remount,rw /
[00:40] <SWATLLAMA> Hello.
[00:40] <graphiteuser> So no, there's no sign of it seeing my dodgy ssd at all.
[00:40] <blz> Jordan_U, okay, thanks
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> esde, Linux sees ntfs with no problem
[00:40] <Jordan_U> blz: You're welcome.
[00:40] <codephobic> fedeisas, http://pastebin.com/Xw6XnzsL
[00:40] <SWATLLAMA> Are there any instructions to install mate in Ssaucy? I know the Saucy package is up, but no instructions as of noow that I could find.
[00:40] <esde> sweet, thanks!
[00:40] <chare> wtf is this amazon shit in the dash, HOW DO I REMOVE THAT SHIT
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> !language | chare
[00:41] <BrianH> chare: http://askubuntu.com/questions/192269/how-can-i-remove-amazon-search-results-from-the-dash-or-disable-the-feature
[00:41] <Jordan_U> !shopping | chare
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> chare, take you meds and settle down.
[00:41] <graphiteuser> I seem to recall years ago we used to look at /var/log/messages for information on recently connected devices.
[00:42] <OerHeks> SWATLLAMA, mate is not supported here, it is a mint DE
[00:42] <ubuntuaddicted> SunTsu, well I added this line to my grub file and now my tty's work again. GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text
[00:42] <SWATLLAMA> There are Ubuntu packages for mate.
[00:42] <esde> once I install ubuntu will virtualbox be able to virtualize a windows 7 installation using all 8 processor threads? what kind of compatibility issues and limitations do i need to consider running a windows 7 guest?
[00:42] <FiremanEd> SWATLLAMA: http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download
[00:42] <TripSec> Anyone here dl john?
[00:42] <SWATLLAMA> Oh thanks, FiremanEd. I didn't know the 13.10 instructions were up now.
[00:42] <codephobic> fedeisas, I think I may have found a (the?) problem.
[00:42] <FiremanEd> They are.
[00:43] <SunTsu> ubuntuaddicted: good to know, I'll keep that in mind if I ever encounter a problem like this
[00:43] <hylian> TripSec: dl john? haven't downloaded john lately... ??
[00:43] <fedeisas> what was it?
[00:43] <codephobic> apache2.conf notes that I need to make some alterations if I am hosting my /www on a nfs share...
[00:43] <chare> uhh this didn't work in Saucy....... sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping
[00:43] <blz> Jordan_U, SunTsu ok we seem to be back in business
[00:43] <codephobic> (as far as I understand it)
[00:43] <blz> many thanks for putting up with a frazzled user =)
[00:43] <TripSec> hylian, I am trying to dl it but can't
[00:43] <ubuntuaddicted> SunTsu, also this line is uncommented, not sure what impact if any that had. GRUB_TERMINAL=console
[00:43] <Jordan_U> blz: No problem :) You're welcome.
[00:43] <graphiteuser> OK, so I have no sign of this usb-attached SSD at all. Any suggestions as to where I could look to see if it's been recognised on any level?
[00:43] <codephobic> my /media/local/one/www << is a network share directory
[00:43] <hylian> TripSec: dl what? "john"??
[00:44] <SunTsu> esde: Maybe you should ask somewhere windows and/or vbox centric when it comes down to running linux on vbox
[00:44] <codephobic> maybe that's causing some problems?
[00:44] <SunTsu> er running windows on vbox
[00:44] <ubuntuaddicted> SunTsu, this is still commented out as well. #GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480
[00:44] <BrianH> graphiteuser: dmesg
[00:44] <blz> Jordan_U, and on the plus side, I learned that useradd -G is not the same as useradd -aG
[00:44] <anonymous_> todos hablan en ingles?
[00:44] <TripSec> hylian, john the ripper
[00:44] <codephobic> (ones I did not have before 13.10)
[00:44] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: you there?
[00:44] <blz> Jordan_U, I wonder how often people get caught with that
[00:44] <wilee-nilee> esde, Vbox will run windows if it is a oem it will not work however.
[00:44] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: you're running on ubuntu 13.04 or 13.10?
[00:44] <hitsujiTMO> chare: system settings -> security & privacy -> search -> disable that option
[00:44] <SunTsu> !es | anonymous_
[00:44] <graphiteuser> oh yeah
[00:44] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, 13.04
[00:44] <graphiteuser> looks like it's seen it
[00:44] <SWATLLAMA> How do you guys feel abuot Unity? I"ve never liked it.
[00:45] <graphiteuser> "attached scsi generic sg1 type 0" etc
[00:45] <chare> hitsujiTMO its still installed though
[00:45] <chare> HITSUJItmo i want it gone
[00:45] <blz> hahaha roots!  Sweet delicious roots!
[00:45] <blz> alright I'm off to bed
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> esde,There is a #vbox channel.
[00:45] <blz> goodnight all!
[00:45] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, Also just finished the upgrade command. Had to wait for the LoL players to be between matches or I'd lag them to heck and back.
[00:45] <OerHeks> chare read the documentation carefull
[00:45] <Jordan_U> SWATLLAMA: Try #ubuntu-offtopic for people's opinions on software, this channel is for tech support only.
[00:45] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: oh okay *whew* cuz if you were running on 13.10 then you'd just have to install the libg3dvl driver
[00:45] <graphiteuser> Hm.
[00:45] <hylian> TripSec: ahh, never heard of it, sorry... i don't see it in the apps section of ubuntu https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/
[00:45] <SWATLLAMA> Okay, sozzy Jordan.
[00:45] <graphiteuser> I'm not sure if it's seen the disk, or just the USB SATA dongle.
[00:45] <graphiteuser> Oh no, apparently it has. It's listing block information.
[00:46] <esde> wilee-nilee, im virtualizing ubuntu on windows right now and my processor doesnt seem to support native multicore virtualization, so im limited to 32 bit installations. my question was if linux somehow worked around that hardware limitation
[00:46] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, That does sound a lot simpler. Lol
[00:46] <esde> thanks
[00:46] <graphiteuser> Suggests it's become sdb. is there some way I can attempt to mount it, ideally readonly?
[00:46] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: aye, wait so you restarted your computer?
[00:46] <zeifer> Not yet
[00:46] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: and you booted just fine?
[00:46] <Ari-Yang> oh
[00:46] <Prock81> dang Now 13.10 is out, and just yesterday i switched to FreeBSD, not even your update can convince me now that i see the real power of FreeBSD
[00:46] <Ari-Yang> well you need to restart for updates to take affect, zeifer
[00:46] <stewart_> codephobic i'm having some ssl issues arrrg so i know how you feel LOL
[00:46] <IdleOne> chare: http://askubuntu.com/questions/192269/how-can-i-remove-amazon-search-results-from-the-dash-or-disable-the-feature?rq=1
[00:46] <BrianH> graphiteuser: anything under /media?
[00:46] <SunTsu> esde: this basically is a vbox question and people concerned with vbox probably can give you better answers
[00:46] <zeifer> They're being setup right now, Ari-Yang
[00:46] <OerHeks> chare read the documentation carefull >>> You then need to log out and back in.
[00:46] <codephobic> stewart_, ah sorry to hear that.
[00:47] <graphiteuser> BrianH: empty
[00:47] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: ah okay
[00:47] <graphiteuser> I don't think it's automounted, but I'm used to linux not automounting USB things.
[00:47] <graphiteuser> It may also be marked dirty by windows as the machine crashed on its last boot.
[00:47] <codephobic> overall, funnily enough, I'm happier with my experience with 13.10 (so far).
[00:47] <stewart_> i'm suggestion you cheat codephobic but you could always install webmin
[00:47] <graphiteuser> I've had this issue before, you end up having to pass some sort of "force" arg to mount.
[00:47] <codephobic> mostly because 13.04 crashed every other reboot last time round :(
[00:48] <SunTsu> esde: but I have used 4 virtual CPUs with vbox running on debian and ubuntu
[00:48] <BrianH> graphiteuser: you have to change your fstab, which is outlined in the link I gave you on mounting windows drives.
[00:48] <graphiteuser> BrianH: Can I not simply mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb or whatever
[00:49] <codephobic> stewart_, lol ... I'll reinstall apache2 first ... I have another OS as back up (openSuse), which I can carry on work at... might as well learn use this opportunity to learn a little bit more about the OS and apache2.
[00:50] <BrianH> graphiteuser: no, use sudo blkid and find the device location, then edit your /etc/fstab to include the drive.
[00:50] <graphiteuser> Eesh, when did that change
[00:50] <graphiteuser> seems like a pretty fundamental change there.
[00:51] <codephobic> what do you guys think about me dissiting testing.dev and then re-a2ensiting it?
[00:51] <graphiteuser> sudo blkid just sits there doing nothing. doesn't even ask for a password.
[00:51] <codephobic> I know it's the equivalent of "switch it off, and then on again" ... but ... ?
[00:51] <stewart_> codephobic a2dissite <name> and a2ensite <name>
[00:52] <codephobic> lol, stewart_ just what I'm thinking of doing now.
[00:52] <graphiteuser> what is blkid supposed to do
[00:52] <codephobic> ERROR: Site testing.dev does not exist!
[00:52] <codephobic> :(
[00:53] <codephobic> I don't get that at all
[00:53] <hitsujiTMO> codephobic: ls -l /etc/apache2/sites-available
[00:54] <hitsujiTMO> and: ls -l /etc/apache2/sites-available
[00:54] <hitsujiTMO> and: ls -l /etc/apache2/sites-enabled                 sorry
[00:54] <asdf6789> hi all.  i upgraded my "command line install" 13.04 to 13.10 and lost audio.  aplay -l shows my adapter.  alsamixer shows volumes are set and not muted.  any ideas?
[00:54] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, I've finished all of the commands you pastebinned for me. Should be good to go, right?
[00:54] <BrianH> graphiteuser: it lists block device information
[00:54] <SWATLLAMA> Should there be any text files i have to edit to change my desktop environment?
[00:54] <graphiteuser> BrianH: I fear it doesn't.
[00:54] <graphiteuser> It just sits there. Blinking cursor.
[00:55] <BrianH> graphiteuser: ctrl+C and try again?
[00:55] <BrianH> graphiteuser: How much linux experience do you have?
[00:55] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/1D5FyhN3
[00:55] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: aye, reboot
[00:55] <zeifer> Alright, wish me luck. :)
[00:55] <Ari-Yang> gl
[00:56] <Ari-Yang> any hardware damage is not my fault btw
[00:56] <jrib> SWATLLAMA: no, just change the setting at your login screen
[00:56]  * Ari-Yang runs
[00:56] <graphiteuser> BrianH: Precious little, and years ago.
[00:56] <Ari-Yang> :b
[00:56] <graphiteuser> ctrl_c simply types ^C into the shell
[00:56] <SWATLLAMA> Okay, thanks. I read somewhere that I had to change something for 12.04, but never experienced it with LXDE
[00:56] <graphiteuser> Hm
[00:56] <graphiteuser> blkid returns immediately I unplug the suspect drive.
[00:56] <codephobic> I can't run a2ensite or a2dissite at all.
[00:57] <graphiteuser> that's... a bit broke.
[00:57] <codephobic> I keep getting "ERROR: site <site> does not exist!"
[00:57] <hitsujiTMO> codephobic: can you post your apache2.conf plz
[00:58] <graphiteuser> OK, so, new problem. My drive causes "blkid" to hang. Any ideas?
[00:58] <OerHeks> graphiteuser, blkid on ntfs?
[00:58] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/Xw6XnzsL
[00:58] <blz> Hello again, how can I make a sevice start automatically at boot time?  The service can be started with `sudo service servicename start`.
[00:58] <graphiteuser> OerHeks: Well, it should be an NTFS drive, yes.
[00:59] <papatate> vendre
[00:59] <stewart_> getting dinner one moment
[01:00] <OerHeks> graphiteuser, do you use " sudo blkid " ?
[01:00] <hitsujiTMO> codephobic: whats the output of: cat /etc/issue
[01:00] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, I'm back up and running again. Only noticeable difference so far is that it seemed to take longer to get to login and from login to desktop.
[01:00] <graphiteuser> OerHeks: I must admit I previously used "sudo bash"
[01:01] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, "Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l"
[01:01] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: what's the output of dmesg | grep dpm
[01:01] <stewart_> I'm curious why you would ask that
[01:01] <zeifer> sec
[01:01] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, I've never heard of that file before - is it a bug report thing?
[01:01] <stewart_> your os version
[01:01] <hitsujiTMO> codephobic: how exactly did you install apache2 ?
[01:01] <BrianH> Is there a non-gtk version of usb-creator?
[01:01] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: and pastebin the output of glxinfo | grep -i opengl and uname -a
[01:01] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, dmesg | grep dpm
[01:01] <zeifer> [    0.000000] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.11.5-031105-generic root=UUID=cfb17b58-fb23-455c-b605-240f3bc9bb8b ro quiet splash radeon.dpm=1 vt.handoff=7
[01:01] <zeifer> [   13.844080] [drm] radeon: dpm initialized
[01:02] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, I used apt-get install, a few upgrades ago.
[01:02] <OerHeks> graphiteuser, oke, that should work. ( but personally i would use UBcd for ntfs issues)
[01:02] <graphiteuser> dmesg does say "Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block nn" a few times.
[01:02] <codephobic> just did my standard install, apache2, mysql, php
[01:02] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: nice, you should notice that your laptop's temp should decrease, now pastebin the outputs of the commands I just told you
[01:02] <codephobic> then configured virtualhosts and that was it
[01:02] <graphiteuser> ubcd?
[01:02] <codephobic> nothing ambitious (I thought)
[01:02] <hitsujiTMO> codephobic: where did you get your apache2.conf from?
[01:03] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, that's the conf that had been there all along, I don't think I've ever added to/modified it.
[01:03] <djzn> what is the BEST practice: adsl modem in BRIDGE mode and router in PPPOE/DHCP mode or the inverse?
[01:03] <OerHeks> graphiteuser, ultimate boot cd, http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/  lots of tools for bootsectors/mbr/partition recovery
[01:03] <graphiteuser> hmm
[01:03] <hitsujiTMO> thats not the normal ubuntu apache conf    ...
[01:03] <graphiteuser> no CD-ROM drive on this box.
[01:04] <hitsujiTMO> give me a few min, i'll install 13.10 in a vm and see if it generates that apache2 conf
[01:04] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, oh, just remembered. I think I agreed to let ubuntu change it as part of the upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10
[01:04] <codephobic> k, thanks :)
[01:05] <graphiteuser> I'm assuming this is bad: http://pastebin.com/r4dw7DxD
[01:05] <djzn> how can I edit and save networking setting in Live CD
[01:05] <codephobic> I'll check the apache2.conf on my 12.04 vm too
[01:05] <SunTsu> djzn: I don't see how this is an ubuntu question but anyway: Do the ppp session where you have the most control over what's going on, which should be your router
[01:05] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, http://pastebin.com/5MYjVjDf
[01:06] <djzn> SunTsu, the art of war ? lol
[01:06] <SunTsu> djzn: whatever amuses you
[01:06] <djzn> SunTsu, thanks, yes, i got the router as the pppoe dhcp
[01:06] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: everything looks fine, so now I'd test out how video game performance is
[01:07] <darkangel> so hows 13.10 doin for ya guys?
[01:07] <djzn> SunTsu, but ubuntu is not detecting wired network unless i manually set configuration... and i have to save it before installing, and it wont let me
[01:07] <zeifer> glxgears seems limited to 60fps so I don't see any increases or decreases there. Do you have any suggestions for a quick test?
[01:07] <SunTsu> zeifer: nexuiz?
[01:08] <OerHeks> djzn, start the live mode first, fix wireless and hit the install button on your desktop
[01:08] <OerHeks> c/wireless/wired
[01:08] <codephobic> brb, need a coffee (2am here).
[01:08] <codephobic> thank you guys for helping :)
[01:09] <graphiteuser> out of a morbid sense of interest does that dmesg output suggest the drive itself is damaged or just the FS?
[01:09] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: I thought you had steam installed :|
[01:09] <codephobic> wouldn't be able to keep using ubuntu without the help I've received from here.
[01:09] <Ari-Yang> didn't you say that you wanted good performance with steam games or something?
[01:10] <zeifer> Steam was failing due to lack or improper graphics so far, Ari-Yang, I could try installing it now.
[01:10] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: okay, good luck. Let me know how it works out
[01:10] <zeifer> Will do
[01:10] <blz> Hello again, how can I make a sevice start automatically at boot time?  The service can be started with `sudo service servicename start`.
[01:10] <BrianH> Anyone try using usb-creator-gtk on 13.10 for a 64bit ISO?  I can't get past the bootloader installation without it crashing, and when I use unetbootin I get "No operating system" error when booting.
[01:11] <mayhew> blz: sudo service NAME enable (I think)
[01:11] <mdkwlan> BrianH: ave you tried unetbootin?
[01:11] <blz> mayhew, sounds familiar.  I'll give that a try, thanks!
[01:11] <BrianH> mdkwlan: yes, it'll succeed and when I boot the system from the drive it says "No operating system found"
[01:12]  * papatate slaps papatate around a bit with a large trout
[01:12] <graphiteuser> Does this: http://pastebin.com/r4dw7DxD suggest that the drive is broken, or just the filesystem?
[01:12] <mdkwlan> BrianH: Check the md5 sum of the iso to make sure that it's not the problem then try another usb pen drive.
[01:12] <BrianH> I've also tried running usb-creator-gtk with --allow-system-internal and it just crashes when I select the USB drive and click start.
[01:13] <BrianH> mdkwlan: The checksum is good.  Should I preformat the drive to a specific format beforehand?
[01:14] <mdkwlan> BrianH: It should be fat32 but I think the tool formats it for you.
[01:14] <codephobic> back
[01:14] <jrib> how can I make right alt key behave as compose key when pressed by itself but act as regular alt when pressed in combination with any other key?
[01:14] <mdkwlan> BrianH: What version of Ubuntu are you are when you
[01:14] <mdkwlan> you
[01:15] <mdkwlan> wow sorry. you're using the tool. Damn enter key. BrianH.
[01:15] <BrianH> mdkwlan: heh, I just ran sudo usb-creator-gtk  from the terminal (without args) and now it's past the bootloader and setting up the persistance file.
[01:15] <BrianH> mdkwlan: I'm on 13.10
[01:16] <BrianH> mdkwlan: I updated the system from 13.04, but I decided I want to just wipe this thing clean with a fresh install.  I have some servers installed and a bunch of crap that I don't need anymore.
[01:16] <Mujee> Hello I am having problem with my software center on 13.04. It was working will till yesterday.. today it crashes just after it starts.. have tried to remove and reinstall it but still doesn't work
[01:16] <mdkwlan> BrianH: I assume it's been ported for that version? I'm just seeing a bug report for 12.04.3 but idk if it's still on 13.10
[01:17] <jrib> Mujee: start it from a terminal
[01:17] <BrianH> mdkwlan: I found the same bug report.  It seems to have been around for a long time.
[01:17] <Mujee> tried but it still crashes
[01:17] <jrib> Mujee: pastebin terminal output
[01:18] <mdkwlan> BrianH: Humm. Yea I keep seeing stuff about segfaults, so Idk. I've only used unetbootin and it's worked fine for me.
[01:18] <Mujee> jrib: I have tried but it still crashes
[01:18] <mdkwlan> BrianH: Has it given any error messages?
[01:18] <jrib> Mujee: of course.  But pastebin the output.
[01:18] <jboii> hi
[01:19] <BrianH> mdkwlan: nothing yet.  Its stuck at making a persistance file and says "100%" while the progress bar bounces back and forth.  I'll give it a few minutes to figure it out.
[01:19] <jboii> how can i install bz2 files?
[01:19] <jboii> its an update to vuze
[01:19] <jrib> jboii: bz2 is a compressed file.  It can be anything.
[01:19] <BrianH> aaaand it just crashed.
[01:19] <jboii> how can i install it ?
[01:19] <jrib> jboii: vuze is in the repositories.  Why not use the version in the repositories?
[01:19] <jboii> i have downloaded the file
[01:19] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, Steam is installing and updating as expected. Know anything about sound issues alsa/pulseaudio?
[01:20] <mdkwlan> BrianH: Yea the presistance file is used to maintain it across use on the stick. Have you tried using dd to write it to the usb stick?
[01:20] <jboii> the theme is not nice
[01:20] <BrianH> it just says that it closed unexpectedly and nothing logged in the terminal.
[01:20] <mdkwlan> BrianH: It's an older method
[01:20] <Ari-Yang> !pulseaudio | zeifer
[01:20] <jrib> jboii: you can't change the theme?
[01:20] <Mujee> jrib: http://pastebin.com/CFzxMhg8
[01:20] <Ari-Yang> !alsa > zeifer
[01:20] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: no I don't, read the links? also let me know how gaming performance is
[01:20] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: and you should state what sound issues you have
[01:20] <mdkwlan> BrianH: I have a link if you're interested in it.
[01:21] <BrianH> mdkwlan: No, I haven't.  Toss me the link. :)
[01:21] <mdkwlan> http://askubuntu.com/questions/59551/how-to-burn-iso-to-usb-device
[01:21] <jrib> Mujee: create a fresh new user and see if you can replicate the issue on the new account
[01:22] <mdkwlan> BrianH: The hardest part of that is finding out the mounting point which is easy to find with gparted.
[01:22] <BrianH> mdkwlan: thanks, I'll give it a shot.
[01:22] <mdkwlan> BrianH: Np man. Hope it works for you :)
[01:23] <BrianH> mdkwlan: This won't install grub on the drive though, correct?
[01:23] <bray90820> Would this be a good place to talk about ubuntu touch
[01:23] <mdkwlan> BrianH: No. It will write it to the usb as if it's a CD/DVD
[01:24] <BrianH> mdkwlan: Gonna try booting the drive, since it seemed to have made it past grub before it failed.
[01:25] <BrianH> otherwise, I'll give dd a shot.
[01:25] <Smedles> hi all - been having issues with Ubuntu 13.10 with resume the last week or two
[01:25] <mdkwlan> BrianH: Yea it seems to be a problem with that presistance file and to be fair that's not needed to use the usb stick.
[01:25] <Smedles> sometimes after resume I've had no keyboard or video corruption, I was running the nvidia proprietary drivers and reverted to nouveau which didn't help
[01:26] <Smedles> did a fresh install today (kept /home) but same symptoms
[01:26] <Smedles> after resume, mouse pointer would work but keyboard unresponsive - after a few minutes it went back to a logon prompt, logged on but desktop is corrupted
[01:26] <craigbass1976> anyone know of a vnc client that allows me to scale the window so it will fit on my desktop?
[01:27] <mdkwlan> craigbass1976: rdesktop
[01:27] <BrianH> mdkwlan: Yeah, I thought I told it not to, but maybe when I was speeding through it the last time I might have left it at the defaults.  Still same "Missing OS" error.  I'll give it one more shot without persistance, then dd.  Ugh ... all this because the CD itself won't work past the language selection during install, lol
[01:27] <craigbass1976> mdkwlan, that works over vnc potocol?
[01:27] <Mujee> jrib: yes the problem still exists with the new user too
[01:27] <mdkwlan> craigbass1976: Yup. VNC and RDP
[01:28] <dubone> anyone know what it means when guest vm won't start and has a bunch of these errors? virAuditSend:135 : Failed to send audit message virt=kvm resrc=disk reason=start
[01:28] <jrib> Mujee: apt-cache policy software-center
[01:29] <zykotick9> dubone: you might want to try #virt on irc.oftc.net (i assume you are using virt-manager)
[01:29] <dubone> zykotick9: thanks
[01:29] <advx> Hi All Good Morning
[01:30] <Mujee> jrib: http://pastebin.com/TMVVYJNQ
[01:30] <mdkwlan> Hello advx.
[01:30] <booh> What's the problem, I'm on 13.04 and I try to do-release-upgrade to 13.10 but it say that there is no update...
[01:30] <sam113101> how do I make the caps lock key act as a second backspace key?
[01:30] <advx> Hello ,mdkwlan
[01:30] <BrianH> booh sudo apt-get update ?
[01:30] <jrib> Mujee: check for an open bug and if there isn't one, file one
[01:30] <booh> BrianH, of course done.
[01:30] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, got the vm running?
[01:31] <hitsujiTMO> just installing Apache now
[01:31] <BrianH> booh, do-release-upgrade -c
[01:31] <codephobic> cool, thanks for that :)
[01:31] <Smedles> booh: check settings for software update - you may only have update to long term release enabled
[01:31] <Smedles> looks lke Xserver is crashing here
[01:34] <MGMT> someone want to grab me some info from ~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css ?
[01:34] <subcool> Hey, i need a gui raid setup utilty.. anyone have suggestions?
[01:34] <SysSU> oh man raid…i need help with that too haha
[01:34] <jrib> MGMT: i imagine that's empty for most...
[01:35] <SysSU> why is Ubuntu 13.04 showing my hardware raid as two drives..and no raid drive?
[01:35] <MGMT> jrib: is yours empty?
[01:35] <jrib> MGMT: i don't have such a file.
[01:35] <subcool> SysSU, i just dont have the concentration to do it all manually. And whats sad, is- everyone suggest lvm; when a good gui for RAID is still hard to find. :/
[01:35] <jrib> MGMT: (ask your real question)
[01:35] <zeifer> Well, Ari-Yang, we've at least got Steam running. So that's progress and I thank you very much for getting me this far. Next up is how I go about getting my audio to play through speakers rather than headphone port.
[01:35] <MGMT> hmmmm... maybe I just have to delete it... what does ubuntu use gtk-2.0 or gtk-3.0?
[01:35] <delinquentme> gs
[01:35] <hitsujiTMO> codephobic: ok, so it seems that apache2 conf is completely different in 13.10
[01:35] <Mujee> jrib: http://pastebin.com/513Cuw9X usually get this message when i reinstal software center after removing it
[01:36] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, ah
[01:36] <MGMT> jrib: that is my real question... I'm having theme color issues from installing ubuntu over xubuntu and not deleting the home directory
[01:36] <codephobic> hmm, I guess we're stuck as far as to cause/approach now.
[01:36] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: that's good. Now you need to test and see how a video game performs. As for audio, I'm not sure, try asking here?
[01:36] <dubone> SysSU: I have installed Webmin for mdadm for a customer and it seemed to get the job done for them
[01:36] <jrib> MGMT: rename the file and see what changes
[01:36] <codephobic> I'll try completely removing apache2 tomorrow morning and doing a full install again.
[01:36] <MGMT> jrib:  yeah just thought of that lol
[01:36] <hitsujiTMO> codephobic: can you tell me whats in /etc/apache2/envvars
[01:37] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, one mo.
[01:37] <poizen> I've installed ubuntu over linux and now i've a huge 900gig partition and i don't know how i should recover my data :( pplease help
[01:37] <SysSU> dubone: what do you mean?
[01:37] <poizen> i meant ubuntu over windows*
[01:37] <MGMT> jrib: do you know the command for refreshing the window manager without loging out and back in?
[01:38] <jrib> MGMT: those changes should probably be recognized when you spawn a new app
[01:38] <dubone> SysSU: sorry that was for subcool
[01:38] <dubone> subcool: I have installed Webmin for mdadm for a customer and it seemed to get the job done for them
[01:38] <Ari-Yang> I have a question... how come when I steam a video with mpv (fork of mplayer2) I get this WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /run/user/x/keyring-SPuOMa/pkcs11: No such file or directory ?
[01:38] <Ari-Yang> how do I prevent that?
[01:38] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/5TW96kff
[01:38] <jrib> MGMT: if not, then no I don't know any command to refresh the wm
[01:38] <dubone> SysSu: graphical raid
[01:39] <MGMT> brb
[01:39] <SysSU> dubone: yea i don't need guy raid..i just need to know why my hardware raid 1 shows up as two disks instead of 1 raid disk or 3 disks (2 disks 1 raid disk).
[01:39] <poizen> guys my hdd has been formatted to ext from ntfs and I want to recover my data.. can anyone help me pleasE?
[01:40] <Mujee> jrib: http://pastebin.com/513Cuw9X usually get this message when i reinstal software center after removing it
[01:40] <jrib> Mujee: I don't think that's important
[01:40] <MGMT> jrib: moving that file fixed it... thanks!
[01:41] <subcool> dubone, oh yea- someone had suggested that for me. I installed it too, but it was.. being... uh.. unuseful? - i think my bridged network adapter is messing up its communication. I couldnt get it to read properly or- um. soething..
[01:41] <jrib> how can I make right alt key behave as compose key when pressed by itself but act as regular alt when pressed in combination with any other key?
[01:41] <hitsujiTMO> codephobic: can you give me your /etc/init.d/apache2
[01:41] <djzn> how do I save edited network setting on live cd session???
[01:42] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, one mo.
[01:42] <dubone> djzn: search for "persistence" on live CD
[01:43] <OerHeks> jrib right alt key controls hud, that would be a lot of work
[01:43] <djzn> dubone: i just need to edit the connection on the spot so I can install it
[01:43] <jrib> OerHeks: i don't use unity
[01:43] <Ari-Yang> oh I figured it out, /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.desktop is the culprit, just wanted to know why it was doing it...
[01:43] <djzn> dubone: it is not a persistent live cd that i'm doing
[01:43] <jrib> OerHeks: pretend I asked for right ctrl key ;)
[01:43] <codephobic> http://pastebin.com/7a5AeTLu
[01:43] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/7a5AeTLu
[01:43] <BrianH> mdkwlan: attemting with dd now ... will I need to do anything to make the drive bootable afterwards?
[01:43] <mdkwlan> BrianH: Shouldn't need to.
[01:44] <dubone> djzn: not sure then
[01:44] <MGMT> jrib: which WM are you using?
[01:44] <OerHeks> jrib i also was looking for those 2 seperate commands, have not found it yet howto combine them
[01:44] <hitsujiTMO> codephobic: is there an upstart for apache in /etc/init  ?
[01:45] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, not sure what an upstart is?
[01:45] <jrib> OerHeks: if you are desperate it is probably possible with something like xcape, but i want to avoid it for this case
[01:45] <BrianH> mdkwlan: Worked! :)   Thank you much for the help.
[01:45] <hitsujiTMO> codephobic: give me output of: ls /etc/init
[01:45] <jrib> OerHeks: https://github.com/alols/xcape
[01:45] <mdkwlan> BrianH: Glad to hear. Let me know if it boots first.
[01:46] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, there's no apache2.conf in /etc/init/
[01:46] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, one mo.
[01:46] <hitsujiTMO> it could be httpd.con too
[01:46] <BrianH> mdkwlan: Yep.  It booted.  But it seems to be stuck at the same point as where the CD did.  I can't get past the "Select a language" screen with the server install.
[01:46] <SunTsu> why would there be a config file in /etc/init?
[01:46] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/yBtuHgEH
[01:47] <jrib> SunTsu: that's where upstart expects init scripts
[01:47] <mdkwlan> BrianH: Humm makes me think that it either a problem with the usb stick or the iso.
[01:47] <MGMT> did they change ubuntu to have 1 workspace by default in 13.10?
[01:47] <BrianH> I'll try another ISO.
[01:47] <ImTheDude> am i connected
[01:47] <SunTsu> jrib: I know, I just wondered why codephobic and hitsujiTMO are looking for a apache2.conf/httpd.conf there
[01:48] <ImTheDude> whats everybody running
[01:48] <zeifer> Can anybody help me get my Compaq CQ62 to play audio through speakers and not just the headset port? All volume levels are maxxed and nothing is muted.
[01:48] <mdkwlan> BrianH: Yea or just redownload the one you already have.
[01:48] <jrib> SunTsu: oh
[01:48] <Mujee> Hi my software center crashes just after it starts.. I have tried removing and installing it again but it doesn't wok
[01:48] <BrianH> mdkwlan: That's what I meant.
[01:48] <mdkwlan> BrianH: Oh alright. Fair enough. :)
[01:48] <MGMT> zeifer: what happens if you run alsamixer at the command line?
[01:49] <BrianH> mdkwlan: I downloaded it onto my MacBook and the installer worked fine in VirtualBox.  Maybe the one on my server was corrupted.
[01:49] <jrib> SunTsu: I assume apache2 still uses /etc/init.d and hitsujiTMO and codephobic should be looking there (if they are indeed looking for its init script)
[01:49] <MGMT> zeifer: check to see if the speaker in alsamixer says MM below it
[01:49] <zeifer> It pops up as expected, MGMT. And, as I said, nothing is muted and all volume settings are maxxed.
[01:49] <mdkwlan> BrianH: Yea that's really weird then. Have you tried a dif pen drive?
[01:49] <SunTsu> jrib: they were looking for a config file from what I read
[01:50] <zeifer> MGMT, well, mic is muted for obvious reasons.
[01:50] <RankWeis> Hey guys, I'm trying to decide on a linux distro right now
[01:50] <BrianH> mdkwlan: I don't have another available.
[01:50] <RankWeis> I was wondering if any of you had complaints with ubuntu regarding multiple monitors?
[01:50] <mdkwlan> BrianH: There's always another option of burning a disk as well.
[01:50] <SunTsu> RankWeis: then try some of them and decide for the one you liked best
[01:50] <advx> Should I upgrade to 13.10?? or wait for few days..
[01:50] <hitsujiTMO> jrib, suntsu, it is, the problem is that codephobic s is exactly the same as what should be there, yet isn't initing apache2 with the envvars from /etc/apache2/envvars
[01:50] <RankWeis> SunTsu: I've tried a bunch, never with multiple monitors
[01:51] <mdkwlan> RankWeis: Yes. I run with a dual monitors but it
[01:51] <codephobic> apache2 is definitely present in /etc/init.d/ (if you're wondering)
[01:51] <mdkwlan> it's not because of ubuntu it's because I have an AMD card.
[01:51] <SunTsu> RankWeis: well, then do that ;) I occasionally run Ubuntu with 3 displays without issues
[01:51] <Tecan> who names a distro "Saucy Salamander"
[01:51] <hitsujiTMO> i was looking in /etc/init incase there was something there superceding /etc/init.d
[01:51] <jrib> hitsujiTMO: does he have apache2* in /etc/init or in /etc/init.d, or both?
[01:51] <jrib> hitsujiTMO: ah, ok.
[01:51] <RankWeis> SunTsu: Exactly what I wanted to here. Even windows gets a little frustrated with three sometimes, it's actually the reason I'm switching
[01:51] <mdkwlan> Tecan: Who name's a distro dapper drake or raring ringtail?
[01:51] <RankWeis> hear*
[01:52] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | Those of you who aren't here for support, hear this
[01:52] <BrianH> mdkwlan: Yeah, I thought it might be because I was booting from a USB3 connected DVD drive.  It's for my rackmount server which doesn't have an internally connected disk drive.
[01:52] <SunTsu> RankWeis: I use 2 external displays for my laptop and it's screen, works great so far
[01:53] <Tecan> shining sunflower would have been better
[01:53] <codephobic> does anyone know if 13.10 removes firestarter completely? I used to have it installed, now - post-upgrade - it's no longer available in dash.
[01:53] <BrianH> mdkwlan: worst case, I could pop off the cover and tap into a SATA port.
[01:53] <mdkwlan> BrianH: This is true.
[01:53] <codephobic> (could that be causing issues with accessing my virtualhosts?)
[01:53] <hitsujiTMO> codephobic: can you give me your /etc/default/apache2 ?
[01:54] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, will do... one mo.
[01:54] <mdkwlan> BrianH: Idk its just me but for my server I run with stable so I wouldn't think of running 13.10
[01:54] <BrianH> mdkwlan: 13.10 is stable now
[01:54] <MGMT> zeifer: what do you get when you do lspci | grep Audio
[01:54] <endxmit> hello all
[01:54] <BrianH> mdkwlan: just released today :P
[01:54] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/jtD7hvdF
[01:54] <mdkwlan> BrianH: Stable in the sense of support. IE LTS or Gentoo hardened.
[01:54] <billsey_> So. I did the upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 today. Now the system says my monitor is unknown and only gives me 800x600 and 1024x768 for resolutions. How do I fix it to get my old resolution back?
[01:55] <BrianH> mdkwlan: Ah, gotcha.
[01:55] <endxmit> by any chance is anyone running a chromebook with crouton?
[01:55] <BrianH> mdkwlan: It's only my home server I use for messing around.  I virtualize all my VMs anyways.
[01:55] <zeifer> 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40)
[01:55] <codephobic> BrianH, that sounds like the policy of not installing a Windows edition until it's had an SP update.
[01:55] <MGMT> billsey_: does using xrandr at the command line show you the resolution you want?
[01:56] <mdkwlan> BrianH: Ah. Yea I use mine for storage. So ISOs movies etc etc.
[01:56] <SonikkuAmerica> Every time I boot Ubuntu, I get a GRUB command line instead of the bootloader... what do I do to restore the bootloader? (a) I have rEFInd, and (b) I tried [ update-grub ] already.
[01:56] <billsey_> MGMT: No, it doesn´t.
[01:57] <MGMT> billsey_: give me a sec, I'll find a link to what you'll have to do
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> billsey_:  and whats your video chipset?
[01:57] <BrianH> mdkwlan: Heh, my Plex server is one of the main reasons I'm wiping it.  I installed it on the host system instead of setting up a VM with dedicated access to my Movie drives.
[01:57] <sam113101> how do I make the caps lock key act as a second backspace key?
[01:57] <hitsujiTMO> codephobic: i'm at a loss, seems all the configs / init scripts match
[01:58] <BrianH> codephobic: Yeah, I just don't install Windows unless it's in a VM anyways, haha.
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  checked askubuntu.com ? I recall they having similer questions/answers
[01:58] <MGMT> billsey_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1112186 <-- that should help/get you in the right direction
[01:58] <somsip> sam113101: you can probably do that with xmodmap
[01:58] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, thanks for the efforts though. I'll try removing apache2 tomorrow morning and then do a clean install. Maybe it'll work ...
[01:59] <mdkwlan> BrianH: Interesting setup. Yea I was thinking of using proxmox to mess around with hardware vm's but Idk I might try 13.10 server out to see if anything has really changed.
[01:59] <MGMT> billsey_: you may need to install proprietary drivers... What kind of video card do you have?
[01:59] <codephobic> thankfully, the vms are working, so I can serve my virtualhosts from them if this can't be resolved.
[01:59] <BrianH> mdkwlan: I'm really interested in setting up OpenStack and getting my hands dirty with Juju.
[01:59] <billsey_> Dr_Willis: CNet says Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900.
[02:00] <codephobic> maybe tomorrow other people will have similar issues and more info will come to light.
[02:00] <mdkwlan> BrianH: Oh hell yea. :)
[02:00] <chare> I got my new Saucy ubuntu working what stuff do I want to do now?
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> billsey_:  check 'lspci' output to verify that
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> !manual | chare
[02:00] <billsey_> MGMT: I gather the drivers used in 13.04 have been removed?
[02:00] <zeifer> MGMT, 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40) Not sure if you caught that output earlier.
[02:00] <hitsujiTMO> one thing you can try and do is suffix .conf to you soft links in /etc/apache2/sites-available
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> chare:  or perhaps read some revies about the release  and stuff like    http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/8-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[02:01] <BrianH> mdkwlan: I just don't know where to start.  I generally deploy all my VMs using VirtualBox.
[02:01] <billsey_> Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 04)
[02:01] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, so change testing.dev to testing.dev.conf?
[02:01] <codephobic> I'll give that a go now.
[02:01] <mdkwlan> BrianH: I pmed you so we dont get in trouble lol
[02:01] <BrianH> mdkwlan: I've dabbled with KVM a little bit, but I had a heck of a time with networking in KVM so I just kept using VirtualBox.
[02:01] <hitsujiTMO> yes, in the sites-enabled only is needed
[02:02] <MGMT> zeifer: you don't have HDMI out do you?  is this a laptop?
[02:02] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, sadly doesn't seem to have worked.
[02:02] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: maybe add radeon.audio=1 to GRUB (like how you add radeon.dpm=1) will help?
[02:02] <hitsujiTMO> :(
[02:02] <Ari-Yang> in face try that
[02:03] <codephobic> nevermind, I'm sure more info will come up soon enough.
[02:03] <codephobic> never known an issue that ubuntu people don't eventually solve.
[02:04] <zeifer> MGMT, it is a laptop but there's no HDMI out on it.
[02:04] <hitsujiTMO> i'm surprised at the drastic change in the default config
[02:04] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, so I can put that in after a space?
[02:04] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, I was completely oblivious to it until you pointed it out! lol
[02:05] <codephobic> thanks again for the effort :)
[02:05] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: yes, just make sure it's within the quotes. copy and paste it when you make the change so I can double check
[02:05] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: after, save it, then run sudo update-grub and then reboot
[02:07] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: I'm off to dinner, if I don't see your highlights, I'll just check my log
[02:07] <zeifer> k
[02:07] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash radeon.audio=1 radeon.dpm=1" <--- like that
[02:07] <jboii> hi
[02:07] <jboii> can someon
[02:08] <jboii> someone help me with this ?
[02:08] <Ari-Yang> !ask | jboii
[02:08] <MGMT> zeifer: I had a similar issue at one point.  it ended up being that it was recognizing a different driver or something. Had to tell it the right one, theres an option for this in alsamixer
[02:08] <SonikkuAmerica> Every time I boot Ubuntu, I get a GRUB command line instead of the bootloader... what do I do to restore the bootloader? (a) I have rEFInd, and (b) I tried [ update-grub ] already.
[02:08] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: if you're using pulseaudio then maybe you should uninstall it and use alsa
[02:08] <jboii> i am gonna edit vuze , using qt 4 designer , how can i find the UI file
[02:09] <jboii> can someone help me findin this file ?
[02:09] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, I grabbed pulseaudio because the problem existed before I started using it. Pulse didn't change it.
[02:09] <Ari-Yang> oh
[02:09] <Ari-Yang> well then try the radeon.audio=1 then reboot
[02:10] <zeifer> What was the path to that file again?
[02:10] <Ari-Yang> /etc/default/grub
[02:10] <Ari-Yang> afk
[02:10] <billsey_> MGMT: The link got my display showing in the right resolution fine, but the instructions for making it permanent are broken. There is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to edit.
[02:10] <Ari-Yang> good luck
[02:10] <zeifer> I swear I have a terrible memory sometimes, thanks.
[02:11] <MGMT> billsey_: try installing arandr (sudo apt-get install arandr)
[02:12] <MGMT> billsey_: that should let you set the resolution and save it as a .sh that you can have autorun on startup
[02:12] <codephobic> \quit
[02:12] <MGMT> billsey_: ill be here for a while if you need any help
[02:12] <zeifer> MGMT, Ari-Yang, I'm restarting now. brb
[02:12] <Crazyzurfer> Hi, where are lamp mail logs saved? cause I tried to use "pretend" function on my application, that functions sends the generated mail to the log, but I can't find that log :S
[02:12] <LuxuryMode> Keep getting this error when trying to use add-apt-repository: http://pastebin.com/Ee7NMDzm Think it's a proxy issue, but not sure how to resolve it
[02:12] <MGMT> zeifer: k
[02:13] <ubuntuaddicted> anyone know how to move where the steam games get installed to?
[02:13] <MGMT> WHISKEY TIME!
[02:13] <cjmac> MGMT: can you DCC SEND some of that my way?
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> ubuntuaddicted:  in the users home directory  .steam perhaps.
[02:14] <MGMT> cjmac: hmmmm maybe I'll rsync it to you so I don't lose any :)  its scotch... SCOTCH TIME!! lol
[02:15] <LuxuryMode> http://i.imgur.com/bmfwvDl.gif
[02:15] <chare> I got google chrome running in Saucy
[02:15] <LuxuryMode> spinning in circles :(
[02:15] <MGMT> cjmac: Monkey Shoulder Batch 27, cant go wrong
[02:16] <cjmac> MGMT: I think if rsync had a scotch option, sysadmins everywhere would be known as the happiest people on earth
[02:17] <bean> Crazyzurfer, lamp meaning something you installed?
[02:17] <MGMT> cjmac: I would sure like my job more lol.  'hey hey, how bout I ssh in and fix it myself, sound good? k'
[02:17] <Crazyzurfer> Crazyzurfer: yes, the web server
[02:18] <bean> Crazyzurfer, lamp is not a web server.
[02:18] <bean> !lamp
[02:18] <rossabarrett> I'm trying to set up a third monitor. I have two running off of a radeon driver from an ati chip. The only other port I have on my system is to the embedded intel chip. when I plug the third monitor in, it only shows a grey screen and doesn't register. Should I make a new xorg.conf. or is it even possible with xserver to run simultaneous drivers?
[02:18] <bean> Crazyzurfer, so what did you install
[02:18] <MGMT> bean: Lamp is totally a web server
[02:19] <bean> MGMT, only if you mean apache
[02:19] <MGMT> bean: sudo apt-get install lamp-server^ or something like that
[02:19] <zeifer> MGMT, Ari-Yang's idea didn't work. Do you have anymore info for my sound issue?
[02:19] <MGMT> bean: apache is what the a in lamp stands for
[02:20] <Crazyzurfer> Apache has a way of storing emails in logs instead of sending them, that's just for debugging. But I cant find that log file, does anybody knows where can I find it?
[02:20] <MGMT> zeifer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/282119/alsa-fails-to-recognize-on-board-audio-card <-- came across that, but not sure how much it'll help
[02:20] <bean> MGMT, I'm well aware, and its "sudo task-sel install lamp-server"
[02:20] <bean> Crazyzurfer, apache doesn't send mail itself.
[02:20] <MGMT> bean: theres so many ways to install a lamp server... all are correct
[02:20] <bean> Crazyzurfer, but it's likely in /var/log
[02:20] <netm> Hi - I just installed 13.10 on an ssd in my laptop, 13.04 is on my hd .. at the moment I have to boot to my hd to get grub and then get the ssd to boot. Question: how do I move my grub from the hd to the ssd?
[02:21] <DiceDingus> Hello, Ubuntu. I just installed the AMD proprietary driver, and now Gnome won't start. Happy day! How can I find out what's donking up so I can get it undonked?
[02:21] <SonikkuAmerica> >>> Every time I boot Ubuntu, I get a GRUB command line instead of the bootloader... what do I do to restore the bootloader? (a) I have rEFInd, and (b) I tried [ update-grub ] already.
[02:21] <rossabarrett> Also tried xrandr. It shows that I have the intel provider, but it doesn't give any outputs when i just enter xrandr
[02:21] <Crazyzurfer> bean: Tried on that directory, but didn't find it.. I guess i'm going to just try to send mails
[02:21] <bean> Crazyzurfer, so what package did you install for LAMP?
[02:22] <Ari-Yang> DiceDingus: don't use fglrx
[02:22] <Ari-Yang> ._.
[02:22] <Crazyzurfer> bean: sudo apt-get install lampp-server^
[02:22] <Ari-Yang> terrible 2d acceleration, I was just helping somebody else out with setting up their laptop for vid game ready using open source radeon driver
[02:23] <DiceDingus> I was trying to play a game, it was whinging, I went to download a driver. Also, that doesn't help me undonk things.
[02:23] <bean> Crazyzurfer, not tasksel?
[02:23] <Ari-Yang> DiceDingus: what card do you have?
[02:23] <MGMT> Crazyzurfer: if your looking for mail logs those are in /var/log/mail.log
[02:23] <rossabarrett> Any Ideas?\
[02:23] <DiceDingus> Ari-Yang AMD Radeon HD 6770
[02:23] <Crazyzurfer> MGMT: it's empty, I guess my pretend function is not running well.
[02:23] <MGMT> rossabarrett: what do you need help with?
[02:24] <Ari-Yang> DiceDingus: what ubuntu version?
[02:24] <rossabarrett> I'm trying to set up a third monitor. I have two running off of a radeon driver from an ati chip. The only other port I have on my system is to the embedded intel chip. when I plug the third monitor in, it only shows a grey screen and doesn't register. Should I make a new xorg.conf. or is it even possible with xserver to run simultaneous drivers?
[02:24] <Crazyzurfer> bean: nope, somebody here told me to never install taskel packages.
[02:24] <DiceDingus> Ari-Yang: Ubuntu w/ Gnome 13.04
[02:24] <bean> Crazyzurfer, how are you "pretending" to send mail
[02:24] <bean> Crazyzurfer, right but theres no package called lamp-server
[02:24] <chare> ok now that I got Saucy running, we need to address the next problem, how do we get games made for linux I HATE HAVING WINDOWS JUST FOR STARCRAFT 2
[02:24] <Ari-Yang> DiceDingus: 64bit?
[02:24] <DiceDingus> chare: You make a blood-sacrifice to gaben at the altar of SteamOS.
[02:25] <DiceDingus> Ari-Yang: Correct.
[02:25] <Crazyzurfer> bean: it's called lamp-server^
[02:25] <MGMT> Crazyzurfer: you should try testing by using telnet to spoof some stuff around
[02:25] <Crazyzurfer> "lamp-server^"
[02:25] <chare> steam is a very small space of the entire gaming
[02:25] <bean> Crazyzurfer, theres also no package called lamp-server^
[02:25] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, my laptop is definitely running cooler in the graphics department. Very much improved there. :)
[02:25] <netm> Hi - I just installed 13.10 on an ssd in my laptop, 13.04 is on my hd .. at the moment I have to boot to my hd to get grub and then get the ssd to boot. Question: how do I move my grub from the hd to the ssd?
[02:25] <zeifer> However, still no audio fix.
[02:25] <MGMT> rossabarrett: try installing arandr (sudo apt-get install arandr)
[02:26] <MGMT> rossabarrett: arandr will let you make any monitors active and set their resolution
[02:26] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: good good, not sure about the audio :/
[02:26] <Ari-Yang> maybe somebody here knows?
[02:26] <zeifer> Still hoping. :)
[02:26] <advx> bye 4 now
[02:26] <zeifer> It's a Compaq CQ62, only one audio card.
[02:26] <zeifer> lspci | grep Audio
[02:27] <zeifer> 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40)
[02:27] <DiceDingus> Well, piss on this, I'll just back up my home folder and install something fresh when I feel like it. Gonna go crawling back to the Win7 partition.
[02:27] <Ari-Yang> DiceDingus: c/p the output of lspci | grep VGA
[02:28] <bean> Crazyzurfer, you likely dont have a mail server installed
[02:28] <bean> as mail is not part of LAMP
[02:28] <rossabarrett> MGMT, xrandr --listproviders shows that I have the intel chip as a provider, but arandr shows that there isn't an output for the monitor when I plug it in
[02:28] <zeifer> I don't think Dice has the patience for Linux. :(
[02:28] <Ari-Yang> DiceDingus: what is the output of lspci | grep VGA
[02:29] <Crazyzurfer> bean: because of that, i'm trying to save the emails to a log file instead of trying to send them
[02:29] <bean> Crazyzurfer, using php though?
[02:29] <Crazyzurfer> bean: yes
[02:29] <bean> k, how are you doing it
[02:30] <MGMT> zeifer: found these commands... not sure if it'll help
[02:30] <MGMT> zeifer: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa
[02:30] <MGMT> sudo apt-get update
[02:30] <MGMT> sudo apt-get install linux-alsa-driver-modules-$(uname -r)
[02:30] <LuxuryMode> If im writing a bash script that runs something that requires entering [y] to confirm moving forward, what do i put in my script?
[02:30] <MGMT> woops
[02:30] <MGMT> meh, that's all of it, sorry for pooping in chat
[02:30] <bean> LuxuryMode, look into the "read" command
[02:30] <bean> more specifically "read -p"
[02:31] <ssshvb> how to make my ubuntu desktop classic  (2d) ive got gnome-shell but in the login window it does not offer classic desktop
[02:31] <bean> Crazyzurfer, how are you logging it, then
[02:31] <MGMT> LuxuryMode: also ask bash questions in #bash
[02:31] <LuxuryMode> thanks bean
[02:31] <LuxuryMode> thanks MGMT
[02:31] <MGMT> LuxuryMode: no prob, they know their crap
[02:32] <Crazyzurfer> bean: well, laravel is a framwork that I use and it has the "pretend" function that saves it into a logfile, I've done it before but with xampp on windows
[02:32] <Crazyzurfer> but there's really easy, just have to search in the xampp folder
[02:32] <rossabarrett> MGMT, any other things you would suggest trying?
[02:32] <MGMT> rossabarrett: are you using a laptop or desktop with 2 video cards bridged?
[02:33] <subcool> anyone else with any GUI based RAID configuring tools? - i created a Raid 0 with two SATA drives, but i need to make partitions on it. - IM too new to raid and paritions to being messing with it via CLI.
[02:33] <rossabarrett> MGMT, a desktop
[02:33] <zeifer> MGMT, nothing comes up for my current kernel version using that ppa.
[02:33] <bean> Crazyzurfer, application's log files
[02:33] <MGMT> zeifer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1585765&page=2 <--- theres more stuff here
[02:33] <bean> so likely "application.log" or similar,
[02:33] <zeifer> k
[02:34] <MGMT> rossabarrett: are you trying to use onboard video and a video card?
[02:34] <bean> Crazyzurfer, you should probably join #laravel though, not really an ubuntu question
[02:34] <rossabarrett> MGMT, I have Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09) WITH Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Turks PRO [Radeon HD 7570]
[02:34] <Crazyzurfer> bean: ok
[02:35] <MGMT> rossabarrett: are all three outputs on the Radeon HD 7570? as far as I know you cant use onboard and a graphics card together, one or the other
[02:35] <waykool99> is there a GRUB expert in here?
[02:35] <MGMT> waykool99: depends, what you need?
[02:36] <bazhang> waykool99, try #grub
[02:36] <mercutio> has anyone else noticed the new ubuntu has terrible network performance?
[02:36] <mercutio> like 50 megabit on gigabit lan
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> mercutio, No.
[02:36] <waykool99> ok will try #grub
[02:36] <waykool99> thank you :)
[02:36] <mercutio> currently i'm thinking it's because it's broadcom
[02:36] <bean> mercutio, that seems like it's probably not auto negotiating speeds right. How are you testing?
[02:36] <netm> Crazysurfer - I use Laravel as well on Ubuntu and have used msmtp successfully...
[02:37] <mercutio> with curl
[02:37] <mercutio> except
[02:37] <mercutio> iperf goes a lot faster
[02:37] <mercutio> it's very bizzare
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> mercutio:  not noticed the issues here.
[02:37] <chare> what are yo guys using your new Saucy for?
[02:37] <mercutio> i can curl using my wireless router at 15megabytes/sec, and my i7 linux box at 6megabytes/sec
[02:37] <MGMT> chare: blasting spam
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> chare:  same as one uses any other release. ;)
[02:37] <bean> mercutio, then its likely not the network thats slow, its likely what you';re curling from
[02:37] <bazhang> chare, dont poll here, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:38] <mercutio> well the wireless router running gargoyle has slow cpu i think mips, and it's still way faster than the i7
[02:38] <mercutio> it's local network
[02:38] <bean> mercutio, oh, is this transfer over wireless?
[02:38] <mercutio> i also have infiniband, which is doing 384 megabytes/sec or sometihng
[02:38] <mercutio> nope, local network
[02:38] <mercutio> 1 metre away
[02:38] <mercutio> i just have ssh to my wireless router
[02:39] <mercutio> so wanted to make sure it wasn't the server :)
[02:39] <bean> ah infiniband, i wish it was more popular
[02:39] <waykool99> pardon me again, i'm old school x10, haven't used IRC over 10 years.  in HERE, how do you change IRC channels?
[02:39] <mercutio> the server is running ubuntu too
[02:39] <mercutio> bean, it's real cheap, because it's not popular :)
[02:39] <rossabarrett> MGMT, I'm confused because a while ago it was magically working. How do I know what the outputs from the back of my computer go to? xrandr --listprovider says I have 6 outputs on the radeon card. Is there a way to direct all of the monitors to use one card?
[02:39] <MGMT> waykool99: use /join #grub
[02:39] <mercutio> i got 4 cards for $75 USD off ebay
[02:39] <mercutio> then it was like $35 USD for 2 cables or something
[02:39] <waykool99> ahhhh LOL hits self on head.  THANK YOU MGMT
[02:39] <bean> mercutio, nice, a professor of mine did some research-y stuff with it.
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> waykool99, depends on your irc app, you can join with /j "channel"
[02:40] <mercutio> beam, well if 15 gigabit is fast enough for you, it's rpetty cheap :)
[02:40] <waykool99> wilee i wanna go to GRUB group from here
[02:40] <MGMT> rossabarrett: beats me, I've only ever used 2 at once
[02:40] <mercutio> tbh, if there was 2.5 gigabit standard at good i'd probably just use that
[02:40] <chare> how do we make linux kill windows off
[02:40] <mercutio> but link aggregation with ethernet sucks
[02:41] <mercutio> err at good price
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> chare:  general chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic   this channel is for support related questions.
[02:41] <zeifer> MGMT, Looking at that thread you sent me to, it's a Necro from 2010 with a couple posts in 2011. However, that is the exact issue I'm having but I don't have a dual boot to switch to Linux from Windows.
[02:41] <MGMT> chare: watch out, your getting dangerously close to getting kicked lol
[02:42] <mercutio> i think i'm going to have to try shifting to my custom kernel, but i think then ubuntu catalyst drivers will need patching :(
[02:42] <MGMT> zeifer: did the audio ever work in ubuntu?
[02:42] <rossabarrett> MGMT, would you suggest looking anywhere else, asking anybody else?
[02:42] <zeifer> Not on 13.10 but it did on much older versions.
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> MGMT, No why do you ask. ;)
[02:42] <mercutio> well my custom kernel is 3.12.0-rc5
[02:42] <MGMT> zeifer: hmmmm... how old is that lappy?
[02:43] <bray90820> Would this be a good place to talk about ubuntu touch
[02:43] <MGMT> say whaaaa wilee-nilee ?
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> !touch | bray90820
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> MGMT, dumb questions get dumb answers.
[02:44] <MGMT> wilee-nilee: and scotch drinkers get drunk
[02:44] <bray90820> #ubuntu-touch
[02:44] <zeifer> MGMT, I'm not sure about this lappy's age. I bought it for $20 off a buddy that dropped a couch on it and cracked the screen.
[02:45] <mercutio> hmm, does anyone have broadcom ethernet here?
[02:45] <mercutio> i have another computer with broadcom ethrenet which has same driver version, but different firmware
[02:45] <mercutio> and it's not having issues
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> mercutio:  broadcom makes a large number of differnt network chipsets
[02:45] <mercutio> Dr_Willis: yeh
[02:45] <mercutio> 5715 is working ok
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> !broadcom
[02:45] <MGMT> zeifer: try a live CD and make sure the sound still works lol
[02:45] <mercutio> 57781 is not
[02:45] <FloodBot1> mercutio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:46] <mercutio> Dr_Willis: erk, that's wireless
[02:46] <zeifer> MGMT, it didn't work in a live environment. That's what I used to install from.
[02:46] <MGMT> zeifer: I'd try ripping puppy linux or something and make sure its not a hardware issue
[02:47] <MGMT> zeifer: I've spent hours on audio before just to find out it was a ribbon cable that got snagged somehow
[02:47] <zeifer> I guess i could try that, but when I was on Windows, sound worked flawlessly.
[02:49] <MGMT> zeifer: only other thing I can think of off the top of my head is alsamixer then press f6 to see if you're using the 'wrong device'? other than that idk
[02:49] <zeifer> There's just the one device in here and detected.
[02:49] <chare> WHO HERE IS DUMB
[02:49] <MGMT> zeifer: did you upgrade to 13.10?
[02:50] <MGMT> aww, he left too quick
[02:50] <bean> zeifer, and alsamixer doesn't say that its muted?
[02:50] <bazhang> !ot | chare
[02:50] <zeifer> MGMT, What's the command to check which version I'm on? It should still be 13.04.
[02:50] <MGMT> uname -r
[02:50] <MGMT> I think
[02:50] <bean> lsb_release -a
[02:50] <zeifer> bean, alsamixer shows all volume levels maxxed.
[02:51] <zeifer> Even internals and mic
[02:51] <MGMT> zeifer: what about automute in alsamixer?
[02:51] <zeifer> automute may still say enabled.
[02:52] <topper4125> zeifer which DE are you using?
[02:52] <zeifer> XFCE
[02:52] <Crazyzurfer> Why I cannot see the opened terminal windows in my launch bar?
[02:52] <Crazyzurfer> ubuntu raring by the way (13.04)
[02:52] <lkthomas> hey guys, how could I find out what a specific program write/read any specific file ?
[02:52] <MGMT> zeifer: which version lsb_release -a
[02:52] <topper4125> zeifer: try second response to this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xfce4-volumed/+bug/883485/
[02:52] <zeifer> No results with automute disabled.
[02:53] <MGMT> lkthomas: huh? which program will open what?
[02:53] <topper4125> says it was fix with a release... but just had the problem myself earlier
[02:53] <subcool> hey how do i remove my gateway seetings made in my netowrk config.
[02:53] <lkthomas> MGMT: assume there is a program which is not standard from ubuntu itself, but a specific log file growth, how could I find out which program actually write to that log file ?
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> Crazyzurfer, Have you modified compiz or the desktop?
[02:53] <subcool> i mean.. brige settings.. i had to setup manually a bridgeetwork and it was intricate.
[02:54] <zeifer> topper4125, I'll give this a try, thanks.
[02:54] <MGMT> lkthomas: wheres the log file located?
[02:54] <topper4125> hope it helps
[02:54] <lkthomas> it is at /home/whateverprogram
[02:54] <lkthomas> MGMT: does lsof would help
[02:55] <Crazyzurfer> wilee-nilee: yes, some days ago, but it worked fine until today
[02:55] <bean> lkthomas, yeah LSOF should help
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> Crazyzurfer, Any changes like say a recent reboot...etc unity/compiz is a a bit finky in this area with some changes.
[02:56] <lkthomas> bean: question, does program only open log file to write when it needed or it is always open log file ?
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> funky*
[02:56] <bean> lkthomas, depends on how the program writes. A more common paradigm would be to hold open the log file.
[02:57] <lkthomas> bean: thanks
[02:57] <Crazyzurfer> wilee-nilee: I reboot all the time, rebooted several times since the changes were made.
[02:57] <Semor> Does kernel record the reason for sending SIGKILL to one process?
[02:57] <Semor> where is the log?
[02:58] <bean> Semor, no.
[02:58] <wilee-nilee> Crazyzurfer, you might try a reset, or maybe give some details on the mods to the channel. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/how-to-reset-unity-compiz-in-ubuntu-12-10-and-13-04
[02:58] <lkthomas> another confused question, how could I find out the last message when kernel panic reboot happen ?
[02:59] <subcool> ok, i take back my last stement, but i need to reset my interfaces fie to generic or something..
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> Crazyzurfer, Might just need a logout or reboot, we have no idea the voodoo that you did.
[02:59] <Crazyzurfer> wilee-nilee: I'm going to reset it
[03:00] <wilee-nilee> Crazyzurfer, Probably a good idea, just log your changes this time.
[03:00] <MGMT> joe75: you a rochestarian?
[03:00] <joe75> i am :P
[03:00] <MGMT> joe75: your only 10 hops from me
[03:00] <joe75> greece
[03:00] <morning> Is Skype available in Saucy? (Running Saucy -- "Try Ubuntu" -- from a USB drive, it doesn't seem to be.)
[03:01] <MGMT> joe75: used to live 2 miles from the mall, now i'm near park and oxford
[03:01] <joe75> :P
[03:01] <wilee-nilee> morning, skype is a install.
[03:01] <morning> wilee-nilee: I understand that. I've added the "partner" repository, but Skype still doesn't show up.
[03:01] <MGMT> joe75: you use linux for work?
[03:02] <joe75> i don't use linux at all anymore
[03:02] <wilee-nilee> morning, You check if they have a 13.10 release and if so run a update?
[03:02] <reisio> joe75: came into some money :p
[03:02] <joe75> xD
[03:03] <Crazyzurfer> wilee-nilee: it worked :)
[03:03] <bean> morning, adding a repository is not the same as installing a package :)
[03:03] <wilee-nilee> Crazyzurfer, Cool, enjoy.
[03:03] <MGMT> joe75: what do you do?
[03:03] <Crazyzurfer> thanks
[03:03] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[03:04] <bazhang> !ot | MGMT joe75
[03:04] <morning> The latest Skype is 4.2.  From what I see on the net, it's supposed to work. But apt-get install skype gives "The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:04] <MGMT> hey bazhang its not offtopic if its directed at one individual, calm down
[03:04] <morning>  skype : Depends: skype-bin but it is not installable"
[03:04] <topper4125> morning: did you try: sudo apt-get -f install skype
[03:04] <bazhang> MGMT, sure it is. take it elsewhere. this channel is ubuntu support ONLY
[03:05] <bean> MGMT, it certaily is off topic
[03:05] <MGMT> !ot | bazhang
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> morning, I believe you want to install the latest download from skype directly rather than a ppa's version.
[03:05] <MGMT> now both of you are getting off topic
[03:05] <morning> topper4125: Yes, but I still get that error message.
[03:05] <zeifer> topper4125, I'm not seeing any place to specifically create keyboard shortcuts like that response says. Little lost there.
[03:05] <bean> haha, thx bazhang
[03:06] <morning> wilee-nilee: how do I do that?
[03:06] <MGMT> huh
[03:06] <morning> topper4125: Included in error message: "unable to correct problems, you have held  broken packages"
[03:06] <wilee-nilee> morning, http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux/ take a look here.
[03:06] <MGMT> !ot | !ot | !ot
[03:06] <bean> MGMT, now you're just being annoying
[03:06] <topper4125> morining: how about: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2173339
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> morning, just use the 12.04 the release is not the issue it is nthe latest from them.
[03:07] <MGMT> Oh, I'm sorry.  Do all tech people have a wedge up their butt?  Apparently not, cuz I dont
[03:07] <morning> wilee-nilee: Okay, I'll try that.
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> MGMT:  your actions show  otherwise..
[03:08] <bean> MGMT, you've been told that this is a support channel, but insist on talking about non-support things.
[03:08] <MGMT> Dr_Willis: I was testing something
[03:08] <bean> :|
[03:08] <bazhang> MGMT, thats enough. take the chit chat elsewhere
[03:08] <topper4125> zeifer: Trying to remember exactly how I did get it (I know that's how I *solved* the problem in the end... but did a manual thing in terminal to 'originally' unmute it. I'll see if I can find it again
[03:08] <zeifer> topper4125, I'd appreciate that, thanks.
[03:10] <morning> wilee-nilee: That link gives me a i386 deb -- wrong architecture.
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> topper4125:  used alsamixer or alsactrl perhaps?
[03:11] <topper4125> ran amixer from terminal... found a channel that said auto-mute, 1
[03:11] <topper4125> then found how to "0" it via google
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> morning, Does skype have a 64 bit for linux?
[03:12] <zeifer> Interesting development! Using the query commands for xfconf it says "Property "/active-card" does not exist on channel "xfce4-mixer". If a new property should be created, use the --create option.
[03:12] <zeifer> " Does that make sense?
[03:12] <reisio> wilee-nilee: does it matter?
[03:12] <morning> wilee-nilee: I think I read somewhere that it does but that it's really a 32-bit masquerading as 64.
[03:13] <wilee-nilee> reisio, Does not to me I never use it.
[03:13] <reisio> or anyone else :p
[03:13] <wilee-nilee> morning, 13.04 is multiarch, I do not understand the issue.
[03:14] <wilee-nilee> like many others, lol
[03:14] <morning> I don't either. But I've found a page that talks about it and will try to follow the instructions. http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Saucy_Internet#How_to_install_Skype_on_a_64-bit_system
[03:15] <topper4125> zeifer: on my system... it was pulse audio that was muted, went into the mixer>>Built in Audio Mixer (pulse Audio) and unmuted it from there.
[03:15] <zeifer> topper4125, Did you maybe use pavucontrol to unmute it?
[03:16] <topper4125> zeifer... ya I think that's it (the buffer on my terminal doesn't go back far enough to get the exact command
[03:16] <zeifer> Ok, pavucontrol for me is unmuted as well.
[03:17] <zeifer> When I plug in a headset, sound will work just fine. It's just the speakers onboard that are non-functional.
[03:17] <jorenl> Sorry for dropping in with a question, but here it goes: This bug affects me (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1228352), the page lists that a fix has been published. How do I go about installing it?
[03:17] <zeifer> It still acts like it's playing.
[03:17] <wilee-nilee> morning, ah, I suspect that wget is the same package as the 12.04 download anyway, hope you get it working, I guess. There are other open source options, saucy maybe just a bit to fresh is all.
[03:17] <topper4125> zeifer: This is the blog that fixed my problem: http://grumbel.blogspot.com/2011/10/fixing-volume-control-in-xfce4.html
[03:17] <zeifer> k i'll look at it.
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. Just noticed in 13.10 the voume control applet in XFCE is not showing anything here. :) the laptops keyboard volume buttons work. but the control in the top panel is showing muted
[03:19] <topper4125> on this on, it would mute the pulseaudio, then try to unmute via alsa (if that makes sense???)
[03:20] <mih1406> Hi, I have just installed Ubuntu Unity for the first time (I usually use GNOME version). My first issue is that I want to have "Shift+Alt" my shortcut to change keyboard layout.
[03:20] <zeifer> topper4125, How about if xfce4-mixer has empty entries? Like, xfconf-query -c xfce4-mixer -l returns no results. How can I create something that will work?
[03:20] <AcidRain2012> i just got 2 virii scripts, 1 shellcode payload, and a few binary's tatted on me
[03:20] <AcidRain2012> looks raw
[03:21] <jorenl> (...) the bug page says: "This bug was fixed in the package compiz - 1:0.9.10+13.10.20130927.1-0ubuntu1" So I'd like to somehow install that. Do I try to install from the saucy-proposed branch?
[03:21] <reisio> AcidRain2012: viruses, according to what?
[03:21] <topper4125> zeifer Don't think I have any idea how to resolve that one...
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> mih1406, try the dash and the keyboard app.
[03:21] <AcidRain2012> reisio, they are just some early 2000 virus scripts
[03:21] <zeifer> Now that's a bummer. I feel we're narrowing down on the issue at hand, though.
[03:22] <mih1406> wilee-nilee: I tried that, but it does not accept my shortcuts.
[03:22] <kaitrek> is someone familiar with autofs in here? can someone explain what direct vs indirect access means?
[03:22] <sec_> anyone use nokia headphone. My nokia headphones will not work on my laptop unless i hold down a button. any tips to fix the problem?
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> mih1406, unity is a bit funky there I believe, shatre with the channel what you have tried and your goals.
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> share*
[03:23] <jorenl> any help on how I'd go about installing that released fix would be greatly appreciated! (it's a really frustrating bug, I also have to use saucy as my hardware is unsupported by older versions)
[03:24] <waykool99> on ubuntu studio v12.04 LTS 64 bit. in XINE listening (to Korn Live - Montreux 2004) wearing Plantronics Wireless USB headset. LEFT UP/DOWN buttons on Headset (normally) control Volume. Xfce GUI shows Volume up/down but NOT changing RealLife volume. Toolbar: is changing volume. what am i missing?
[03:25] <wilee-nilee> waykool99, This on a TV or something?
[03:25] <waykool99> on pc wearing Plantronics WIRELESS USB headset.
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> waykool99:  usb headphones with volume controls that adjust the volime on the pc?
[03:25] <waykool99> headset has UP/DOWN volume
[03:26] <waykool99> yes
[03:26] <waykool99> exactly
[03:26] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, probably does not trigger the popup
[03:26] <wilee-nilee> waykool99, ment for you sorry Dr_Willis
[03:26] <waykool99> the Volume POPUP pops up on screen
[03:26] <topper4125> zeifer: Don't know if any of this will be of use but; https://bugs.launchpad.net/xfce4-volumed/+bug/970009
[03:26] <reisio> IME you can fix that by running alsamixer in a terminal
[03:27] <reisio> changing volume & exiting
[03:27] <reisio> don't ask me why
[03:27] <wilee-nilee> ah not actually change the volume, he tmi for my feeble brain.
[03:27] <waykool99> using XINE. perhaps i'll try VLC or Totem movie player
[03:27] <kaitrek> is someone familiar with autofs in here? can someone explain what direct vs indirect access means?
[03:28] <waykool99> haven't toyed with Audacious since Windows 98 when it was called Winamp
[03:29] <chris__> wondering if anyone else is having same problem. updated to ubuntu studio 13.10 now all my games have a terrible stutter problem.. have tried all the prop. nvidia drivers..
[03:29] <LuxuryMode> Not sure if this question is appropriate her, but what's the right dir to place programs if i need a location where i have both read/write access?
[03:29] <deckard_> hello. Just upgraded and I am not able to install ia32-libs. Can anyone help?
[03:30] <waykool99> btw, v13.10 has IDJC installed on LIVE RUN DVD. almost had a heart attack and  died yesterday
[03:31] <waykool99> SHOULD SAY Ubuntu Studio  v13.10 has IDJC
[03:31] <chris__> anybody???
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> !anybody | chris__
[03:31] <waykool99> assumed you tried  updates?
[03:32] <babernathy> kaitrek: section 3.1.1 of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Autofs
[03:32] <waykool99> perhaps try nvidia.com, look up your card model. see if nVidia's got Linux driver online
[03:33] <dubone> anyone here a libvirt wizard? I am not getting responses from their channel
[03:34] <wilee-nilee> dubone, state the issue to the channel for help.
[03:34] <chris__> was running ubuntu studio 13.04 games ran great updated to 13.10 now every game i try stutters real bad. will run at 60 fps freeze for a few seconds.. run in fast forrward.. play for a few seconds then repeat. tried all the diffrent drivers. is this a kernal issue
[03:34] <dubone> Hello All, I have a vm running Ubuntu from Ubuntu and it has been running fine for months until last night I rebooted the vm and it is now stuck on "Boot from (hd0,0) ext4 - Starting up ... Here is my libvirt.log http://pastebin.com/yArg0FaP
[03:34] <waykool99> since Linus Torvalds said "nVidia F*** YOU!" on conference video youtube, nVidia appears to be more "Linux Friendly"
[03:35] <wilee-nilee> !language | waykool99 not cool
[03:35] <jorenl> Someone... Just the smallest indication as to how I'd go about installing the fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1228352 would help me so much...
[03:35] <jorenl> The bug is terribly frustrating.
[03:35] <ubuntuaddicted> does anyone know how to move my steam games to another drive/partition and if it would work if that drive/partition was an NFS share?
[03:35] <Dr_Willis> jorenl:  if its been committed - it should be coming out in the updates in the near future.
[03:35] <wylde> LuxuryMode: you could use ~/bin/
[03:36] <Dr_Willis> i think it goes from committed -> released -> we get the fix
[03:36] <LuxuryMode> wylde thanks. does the mv command create that dir if it doesnt exist?
[03:36] <waykool99> sorry. was referencing a video on youtube of  linus torvalds  1 hour 45 minute conference.
[03:36] <chris__> card is a 460 gtx it worked great with driver 304 on ubuntu 13.04 but not on ubuntu 13.10
[03:36] <dubone> wilee-nilee: posted. ... are you perhaps libvirt wizard?
[03:36] <jorenl> Dr_Willis: it says Fix Released. So that means it should be available through the updates? :/
[03:36] <wylde> LuxuryMode: probably not, just mkdir ~/bin
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> dubone, I know nothing about it.
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> jorenl:  if not out now. in the near future is how i belive it happens
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> jorenl:  and with all the new release stuff. that maybe delayed a bit
[03:37] <wilee-nilee> dubone, YOur link says paste has been removed
[03:37] <wylde> LuxuryMode: you may need to logout/login for it to work though. If it wasn't there when you logged in it wouldn't have been added to your PATH
[03:38] <LuxuryMode> i can just add it to my path though, right?
[03:38] <jorenl> Dr_Willis: Thank you for the reply!
[03:38] <dubone> wilee-nilee: so it is ..  http://pastebin.com/EfpxKaLr
[03:39] <dubone> new pastebin - Hello All, I have a vm running Ubuntu from Ubuntu and it has been running fine for months until last night I rebooted the vm and it is now stuck on "Boot from (hd0,0) ext4 - Starting up ... Here is my libvirt.log http://pastebin.com/EfpxKaLr
[03:39] <wylde> LuxuryMode: it SHOULD get added to path if it's already there at login and your .profile has the appropriate lines. See http://askubuntu.com/questions/49784/how-is-bin-added-to-my-path
[03:40] <LuxuryMode> ah cool, thanks wylde
[03:40] <wylde> LuxuryMode: np
[03:40] <deckard_> Hello. I have a program that ran before upgrading. It needed ia32-libs, but now it wont work and i cant install ia32-libs
[03:41] <dubone> wilnee-nilee: I hope a fresh pair of eyes can see what is going on in the libvirt log!
[03:41] <kaitrek> i need some help, we have a local machine hosting all user's accounts and we mount it on our cluster machines using autofs to /home folder, problem is there is 1 machine which has a local user /home/localuser, my problem is that autofs overwrites the directory access to /home when it's running such that /home/localuser doesn't show up, only the mounted user directory shows up, how can I have
[03:41] <kaitrek> the localuser folder be inside /home as well as have autofs mount cluster's users
[03:41] <wilee-nilee> deckard_, its a multiarch now
[03:41] <deckard_> how do i make it work then?
[03:42] <kaitrek> right now we are using *   server:/home/&
[03:42] <kaitrek> The asterisk (*) is used in place of the mount point and the ampersand (&) in place of the directory to be mounted.
[03:43] <wilee-nilee> deckard_, here is a deb, be sure you know what you are doing. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/i386/ia32-libs-multiarch/20090808ubuntu36
[03:43] <kaitrek> so when a user tries to access /home/user1, it requests the directory from server:/home/user1
[03:43] <zeifer> Okay, so apparently xfce4 has absolutely no data in regards to sound at all. No xfce-volumed, no /active card nothing. It always mentions that I should use the "--create option" but there's no manpage for it.
[03:43] <jrib> kaitrek: why not just put the local user's home outside of /home?
[03:43] <deckard_> since i do not know what i am doing, should i just reinstall using old Ubuntu that worked for me?
[03:43] <morning> wilee-nilee: Followed instructions & 32-bit Skype apparently installed, but doesn't seem to run.
[03:43] <wilee-nilee> deckard_, here is the source, I have no idea in this area is all. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+package/ia32-libs-multiarch
[03:44] <deckard_> ty
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> !info ia32-libs
[03:44] <deckard_> not sure what to do with any of it, but ty
[03:44] <ubuntuaddicted> currently my steam games are located within ~/.local/share/Steam and I'd like to move it to another drive, possibly even an NFS share. does anyone know how to accomplish this?
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> morning, been a while since I used it so not sure really.
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> hmm, no idea what 13.10 did with the ia32 stuff.
[03:44] <jorenl> Dr_Willis: Checking saucy-proposed in my software sources, updating and rebooting fixed the problem entirely. I know there might be some bugs in there, but I'm experiencing so many bugs that seem to be realted to my hardware being new that I'm guessing installing "cutting edge" updates wouldnt hurt.
[03:45] <subcool> ubuntu is playing tricks on me. - i cant seem to rid myself of this bridged network. - i think i cleared the interfaces file neough, and i flushed eth0 and i restarted the network.
[03:45] <wylde> !find unionfs
[03:45] <Dr_Willis> jorenl:  i find that hardw2are thats been out a few months (like 7 mo) is often the best to buy. :)
[03:45] <morning> wilee-nilee: Thank you nonetheless. I have to head off now anyway, so I'll puzzle over it again later. Thanks again.
[03:45] <zeifer> Anyone ever experience things like xfce-volumed missing from xfce4 settings?
[03:45] <wylde> !info unionfs-fuse | kaitrek: perhaps?
[03:46] <James_Epp> Is there any way to specifically get the 12.04.2 iso images? I need to test something then compared to 12.04.3
[03:46] <jorenl> Dr_Willis, I think it's been out for a while - it's just a Lenovo Yoga Ideapad 13.  But I have to compile and install my wireless drivers every time the kernel updates which is kind of frustrating.
[03:46] <kaitrek> ubottu and what does that do?
[03:46] <kaitrek> wylde and what is that for?
[03:47] <subcool> James_Epp, yeah, i do the samet hing often, just google it.
[03:47] <wylde> kaitrek: one can use it to "layer" multiple mount points into one.
[03:47] <sam113101> how do I make the caps lock key act as a second backspace key?
[03:47] <James_Epp> subcool: /me curses myself
[03:47] <deckard_> hi again. If i install Ubuntu LTS, will it install ia32-libs and can i use XFCE with it?
[03:48] <moppy> sam113101: xmodmap i think
[03:48] <topper4125> <-- only runs LTS with XFCE
[03:49] <deckard_> will the ia32-libs work with it? I only use Linux for a game
[03:49] <wylde> !info mhddfs | kaitrek: also a thought
[03:49] <subcool> James_Epp, yeah.. - i dont like 13. and kubuntu/ubuntu.org doesnt offer older version ont he page. So i google it. and there is an offical place to downlaod them.
[03:49] <James_Epp> subcool: This, for my specific purpose: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.2/
[03:50] <waykool99> is it possible on ubuntu studio v12.04 LTS 64 bit, to change GUI from Xfce to Gnome 2?
[03:50] <AdBlocker> Hey all.
[03:51] <AdBlocker> I really love the feal of ubuntu and was wondering if I could learn about customizing some aspects of Ubuntu. It is perfect in almost every way but one
[03:51] <topper4125> deckard_ did you look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1988100
[03:51] <deckard_> ty
[03:51] <chare> i need thermal grease for my cpu
[03:52] <chare> what kind do i want?
[03:52] <AdBlocker> chare: bacon
[03:52] <subcool> please.. someone..
[03:52] <subcool> im about to do something hasty, and utterly cleanse my interfaces file
[03:53] <deckard_> topper4125, ty, but i dont know how to install any of that. But ya ill try
[03:53] <chare> AdBlocker that doesn't help me
[03:53] <AdBlocker> chare: bacon grease
[03:53] <James_Epp> subcool: Make a backup
[03:53] <chare>  /ban AdBlocker
[03:54] <AdBlocker> chare: you haven't even tried it yet....
[03:55] <AdBlocker> could anyone help me with my problem?
[03:55] <chare> no
[03:55]  * AdBlocker /ban chare
[03:55] <AdBlocker> thanks troll
[03:55] <FiremanEd> Adblocker: Stop it please
[03:55] <aaas> can someone say my name 'aaas' so i can test my clcient?
[03:56] <esde> i mounted my goflex home using the mount command and now i am unable to unmount it. I tried umount -a and its saying the device is busy
[03:56] <sam113101> aaas:
[03:56] <aaas> thanks sam
[03:56] <sam113101> np
[03:56] <esde> ahh it is,, nvm
[03:56] <aaas> duh...who would have thought the hightllight color is under 'highlight' ;)
[03:56] <wylde> chare: not really an ubuntu support question. I bet the guys in ##hardware would have some good recommendations.
[03:57] <AdBlocker> Can anyone help me with my problem with Ubuntu? It keeps slowing down when I do one thing
[03:57] <sam113101> moppy: is there another way? I swear I was able to do it from "system settings" in the previous release, now I can't find it
[03:58] <esde> but i needed to unmount it because when i mounted it the first time it showed root as owner and i was unable to create directories. how do i properly add the share?
[03:58] <esde> do i need to do something to the goflex home?
[03:59] <apn> esde, check what is using it using lsof
[03:59] <Matthew_Moore> Can somebody help? i am trying to install TeamVeiwer and i get  an error.   Dependency is not satisfiable: lib32asound2    how do i fix it?
[03:59] <esde> i got that sorted, the issue now is creating directoris on the share
[04:00] <kaitrek> is # a comment in /etc/passwd?
[04:01] <kaitrek> is there a way to concatenate another passwd file to /etc/passwd, BUT to maintain 2 files separately? I have a list of users that I want to keep in a separate file
[04:01] <sam113101> Matthew_Moore: are you using a 32-bit ubuntu or 64-bit?
[04:02] <Matthew_Moore> sam113101:    64bit
[04:02] <sam113101> Matthew_Moore: you should download a 64-bit teamviewer then
[04:03] <Matthew_Moore> i did.  it is a 64 bit TeamVeiwer.deb
[04:03] <sam113101> hmmm
[04:03] <sam113101> Matthew_Moore: try "sudo apt-get install libasound2"
[04:04] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: any luck on audio?
[04:04] <Matthew_Moore> Unable to locate package lib32asound2
[04:04] <sam113101> no 32
[04:04] <sam113101> libasound2
[04:04] <Matthew_Moore> ok
[04:04] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, not yet other than noticing that xfce4-volumed is missing from xfconf settings.
[04:05] <Matthew_Moore> it says    libasound2 is already the newest version
[04:05] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, and /active card is apparently empty. Mentions the --create option and has no manpage.
[04:06] <zeifer> I'm going to relocate with this lappy, though, I'll brb. Lappy might go to sleep during this move.
[04:06] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: okay, good luck, afk
[04:06] <codephobic> 1hi
[04:07] <sam113101> Matthew_Moore: which ubuntu are you using?
[04:07] <Matthew_Moore> Ubuntu 13.10
[04:07] <ryan_turner|MTW> Is 13.10 out now?
[04:07] <ryan_turner|MTW> release
[04:07] <codephobic> just wanted to let people know that the virtualhost issue I had earlier is solved
[04:07] <sam113101> ryan_turner|MTW: yes
[04:07] <ryan_turner|MTW> sam113101, can I upgrade via software updater?
[04:07] <LuxuryMode> whats up with this? i move something to /home/bin and then its gone… http://pastie.org/8411083
[04:07] <sam113101> I think yes
[04:08] <codephobic> I looked into the error codes with Apache, turned out Apache 2.4 changed the authentication/authorization method drastically.
[04:08] <codephobic> setting changes are necessary in order for sites to carry on working from 2.2 to 2.4
[04:08] <AdBlocker> guys
[04:08] <wylde> LuxuryMode: shouldn't that be /home/USER/bin
[04:08] <AdBlocker> can anyone help me with my ubuntu computer?
[04:08] <AdBlocker> its acting slow
[04:08] <codephobic> I found the solution by following the info here: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/upgrading.html#run-time
[04:09] <AdBlocker> but only when i do one thing
[04:09] <codephobic> hope that helps somebody.
[04:09] <AdBlocker> its really weird
[04:10] <subcool> James_Epp, i have a backup- but... i dont want to simply erase it all either. because even then it wont auto populate with the information i need
[04:10] <James_Epp> subcool: I can't help you specifically with network stuff in ubuntu, as I have no experience. Just wanted to make sure you don't go too crazy before messing around with delicate things :)
[04:11] <strit> Upgraded to 13.10 yesterday on my desktop and I get a black screen (nvidia graphics). Pressing CTRL+ALT+F1 only gives me a blinking cursor, no text indicating I'm in TTY and I can't type anything there either. If I boot with nomodeset I can login, but can't type with my keyboard, although keybaord shortcuts work fine. Any ideas? :)
[04:12] <sam113101> Matthew_Moore: still there?
[04:12] <Matthew_Moore> yes
[04:13] <HateYoFace> how goes it guys
[04:13] <sam113101> Matthew_Moore: go to "software & updates", in the "other software" tab and make sure both canonical partners are checked
[04:13] <Matthew_Moore> ok
[04:15] <Matthew_Moore> ok canonical partners are not checked.       Trying it now
[04:15] <wilee-nilee> sam113101, one is the source they are the same.
[04:15] <MacFan> anybody here run ubuntu on a G5 powermac?
[04:15] <reisio> MacFan: probably someone
[04:15] <klync> when I setup tagging, i say "iface eth0.1 auto" and it comes up, but eth0 comes up with it, and gets a dhcp lease (from the native-vlan-id), which I want to avoid. is there a way to keep eth0 down while eth0.1 stays up?
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> MacFan:  that a PPC cpu?
[04:15] <MacFan> yes
[04:15] <sam113101> then you should do "sudo apt-get update"
[04:15] <sam113101> and try to install teamviewer again
[04:16] <sam113101> wilee-nilee: source as in source cod, instead of binaries?
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> MacFan:  i think theres still a very few here and there that do. ;)
[04:16] <sam113101> code*
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> MacFan:  or have in the past. ask the actual question and see
[04:16] <Matthew_Moore> sam113101:  didn't work. same error.
[04:16] <wilee-nilee> sam113101, source of the downloads is all I know not separate partners per-say, no biggie.
[04:17] <sam113101> do "sudo apt-get install lib32asound2"
[04:17] <MacFan> I downloaded the cd iso from ubunto site, I think its 12.04 version, and booted the g5 on it. It seems to boot fine, until it detects the wireless networking, then it crashes and freezes up, saying missing driver. I have no idea how to add the driver to the boot cd, can I boot the system and somehow bypass that wireless detection? I just want to see how that computer runs it.
[04:18] <reisio> MacFan: can you try a more recent version?
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> any other reccomended emailclients for pgp keys then thunderbird?
[04:18] <MacFan> according to what I read online, no version has the wireless drivers, its for a broadcom 43xx
[04:18] <MacFan> because its a firmware thing
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> !broadcom
[04:18] <sam113101> Matthew_Moore: now?
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> it has trhe drivers but not the firmware i imagine
[04:19] <Matthew_Moore> still not working.
[04:19] <MacFan> well, I don't have any linux systems, and don't know how to add in the missing firmware to the cdrom. I was thinking of running the g5 on ubuntu, wanted to try it out.
[04:19] <reisio> MacFan: right, but wireless drivers shouldn't make the OS crash
[04:19] <reisio> hence try another version
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> MacFan:  you wont be adding stuff to the cdrom. thats not how it works
[04:19] <sam113101> Matthew_Moore: did you do "sudo apt-get install lib32asound2"?
[04:20] <sam113101> what's the error you're getting, now?
[04:20] <MacFan> ok, I'll download a newer iso
[04:20] <Matthew_Moore> sam113101:  yes.  getting the same errors
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> MacFan:  and veryify the md5sum of the iso after downloading it
[04:21] <sam113101> Matthew_Moore: which one?
[04:21] <rOOb> hello all. Anyone using ubuntu with full disk encryption? I would like to use ubuntu on my laptop and I need FDE....but I also need things like sleep/hibernate to work. In the past linux has been horrible with sleep/hibernate...especially with FDE. Can anyone say they use it reliably?
[04:21] <MacFan> I'm sure the g5 can handle unbuntu, its quad core 2.5ghz, 16gig ram, ssd, and geforce 7800gt
[04:21] <Matthew_Moore> when i try to install the .DEB i get the dependaci not satisfiable.  when i  try to sudo apt-get  it  it  sames unable to locate.
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> MacFan:  err.. you said it was a PPC cpu earlier. :) guess that was not right
[04:22] <sam113101> yes but what's missing?
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> !encryption | rOOb
[04:22] <Matthew_Moore> sorry for the typos
[04:22] <MacFan> it is a quad g5 ppc mac
[04:22] <sam113101> I want the exact error message
[04:22] <Matthew_Moore> lib32asound2  i assume.
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> MacFan:  you did get the PPC iso file?
[04:22] <esde> i cannot copy out of keepass on ubuntu 12.04, ive install xsel and mono-complere
[04:22] <esde> *t
[04:22] <rOOb> lotuspsychje Yea. I know how...and I was going for FDE with something like LUKS.
[04:22] <sam113101> did you install lib32asound2 successfully?
[04:22] <rOOb> But thanks
[04:22] <MacFan> yes, it boots up to the part where its detecting all the hardware
[04:23] <sam113101> what did it say when you tried to install it
[04:23] <MacFan> but freezes up after the missing driver error for the b43
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> MacFan:  there is a ppc forum i recall. but i gave up on ppc linux ages ago.
[04:23] <Matthew_Moore> No.    No success yet.
[04:23] <MacFan> yeah, its old stuff, but still fun  :)
[04:23] <apn> MacFan, disable the module in grub, and install broadcom-sta
[04:23] <sam113101> wait
[04:23] <sam113101> I'm going to check if that's the actual name of the package
[04:24] <MacFan> apn, ubuntu is not installed, its just booting off the cdrom
[04:24] <apn> MacFan, certain kernels caused b43 to crash. Most notably the whole 3.10 series.
[04:24] <MacFan> ok, so a newer version might fix that?
[04:24] <esde> im trying to copy my passwords out but it wont let me
[04:24] <apn> MacFan, yes, 3.11 is good.
[04:25] <MacFan> the newest version listed here is 12.10
[04:25] <MacFan> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads/
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> MacFan:  with the newer ubuntu releases wanting PAE enabled cpus i was just wonderinf if there was anything newer then 12.10 for ppc
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> !ppc
[04:26] <subcool> Dr_Willis, your knowledgable. - how do i purge/reset my network config
[04:27] <subcool> i need it back to stock.
[04:27] <MacFan> willis, the g5 is 64bit cpu, has 16gig ram in it now
[04:27] <MacFan> so it has to have pae
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> MacFan:  no idea. I dumped my iMAC dv and havent looked back
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> could be the PPC community have given up on making newre reelases also
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> subcool:  cant say ive ever messed with it. You did check askubuntu.com ? theres some files in /etc/network/
[04:29] <kaitrek> what do I need to do for passwd changes to take effect?
[04:29] <apn> MacFan, you can still install it, with b43 disabled. Use wired for connection. Afterwards, you can either a) compile your kernel yourself b) use broadcom-sta and keep b43 blacklisted.
[04:29] <MacFan> I"m downloading 12.10 now
[04:30] <MacFan> don't know any newer version
[04:30] <MacFan> getting the 'desktop cd'
[04:30] <MacFan> iso
[04:30] <reisio> kaitrek: change the passwd
[04:30] <subcool> yeah, all of them are setup to have a bridged network or something.
[04:30] <MacFan> so is the proper thing that should happen, is when it gets to b43 and has no driver, it just keeps booting?
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> subcool:  bridged? You been playing with virtualbox/vmware or somthing?
[04:31] <apn> MacFan, *should. if not, blacklist it.
[04:31] <subcool> Dr_Willis, yep. lol
[04:31] <reisio> MacFan: since networking isn't essential to the OS, yup
[04:31] <reisio> and not even essential to installing
[04:31] <MacFan> ok, thanks apn, I don't know how to blacklist anything, I'm total noob at linux, but I'll try 12.10 and see if it works
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> subcool:  cant say ive eer had  vbox goof things up. ;) but i only use the most basic features of it
[04:32] <reisio> MacFan: or 13.04
[04:32] <MacFan> I dont' see ppc version of 13.04 anywhere
[04:32] <subcool> Dr_Willis, i have vbox, and FreeNAS - but.. the bridge is messing things up
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> MacFan:  you might want to find a disrto that focuses more on ppc development.  Ubuntu dosent really give it  a lot of support
[04:32] <kaitrek> i modified /etc/group but the folder still doesn't show the proper group name with ls
[04:33] <MacFan> the only others I know, are yellowdog, which people say is very outdated, and debian
[04:33] <Yowl> Someone said that when you do a file search on your PC with unity, it shares this information with amazon, any truth to this?
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> i dont even know what disrtos do focus on ppc any more.
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> debian would be the top choice i imagine
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  its documetned at all the blog sites and other places. it sends anoymous info.
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  and it can be disabled. the webupd8 and omgubuntu site have info on disableing it in 13.10 and earlier releases
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> !adlens
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> 13.10 changes a lot of the stuff. so old guides may not apply to 13.10
[04:35] <Yowl> Dr_Willis: What is the purpose of this, and is this sharing specific to the DE unity?
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  its a feature of the unity search stuff.
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  I can search askubuntu.com or other sites without ever leaveing unity
[04:35] <reisio> MacFan: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/13.04/release/ubuntu-13.04-desktop-powerpc.iso
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> thers  like 100+ search lens in the 13.10 released
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> each can be turned on/off as needed.
[04:36] <Yowl> Dr_Willis: So not present in the other DEs?
[04:36] <ssj5goku> installed ubuntu just now and cant install any apps.....it doesnt show the install button and only shows more info....pls help
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  its a unity feature
[04:36] <mih1406> Hi,
[04:36] <mih1406> why there is no calendar on Ubuntu?
[04:36] <mih1406> Unity
[04:36] <wilee-nilee> ssj5goku, you reboot to the install?
[04:37] <cfhowlett> mih1406, because you didn't install one?
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> i thought you clicked on the clock and got a calander
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> click clock calander ;)
[04:38] <ObrienDave> Yowl... Xubuntu has unity-scope-home instead
[04:38] <mih1406> cfhowlett: You are right!! That was a puzzle to entertain #Ubuntu chatter.
[04:38] <ssj5goku> wilee-nilee: i dont understand .....a ctually i have been facing a lot of problems installing ubuntu and was getting a lot of internet connectivity problems and so i installed windows and ubuntu again and now this...
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> ObrienDave:  cant say ive noticed it in xubuntu. but may be its just so transparent  i dont see it; )
[04:39] <ObrienDave> I never paid any attention either :)
[04:39] <Yowl> Dr_Willis: Was it well announced about this when it came out?
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> !info unity-scope-home
[04:39] <wilee-nilee> ssj5goku, You have yet to make any clear description of the issue.
[04:39] <sam113101> you guys broke youtube
[04:39] <sam113101> I can't believe it
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  there was a Huge amount of discussuin about the amazon shopping lens when it came out.
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> the whole lens/scope stuff was a major feature/innovation of unity
[04:40] <mih1406> Which calendar is integrated with Unity (other than Evolution)?
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> then like a year (8 mo?) after it came out.. some people started ranting about it being secret and stuff.. even tho it was rather well documented
[04:41] <ObrienDave> sam113101... dang, one of the important things in life .....
[04:41] <wilee-nilee> no NSA lens, shucks. ;)
[04:41] <sam113101> I'm not kidding
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> i used to use the askubuntu.com lens all the time. but now its built in
[04:41] <wilee-nilee> !ot | ssj5goku,
[04:41] <sam113101> 4 minutes video plays in 30 seconds, full speed
[04:41] <sam113101> and no sound
[04:41] <cfhowlett> !details|sam113101,
[04:42] <ObrienDave> sam113101... yes, I do believe you're not kidding
[04:42] <mih1406> Which calendar is integrated with Unity (other than Evolution)?
[04:43] <sam113101> rhythmbox is also playing at full speed, no sound
[04:43] <sam113101> what the hell is going on
[04:43] <Yowl> Dr_Willis: How is that a improvement on the search bar for firefox?
[04:43] <topper4125> wilee-nilee: NSA needs no lens, they have FB, Google, and Youtube TOS fine print... much more accurate
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  you dont need a browser open.
[04:43] <ObrienDave> sam113101... it's the new time warp feature. Like it?
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  and you can easially select the lens you want to use
[04:43] <sam113101> cfhowlett: what kind of details can I give, lol
[04:43] <Yowl> Dr_Willis: How can it display internet results without a browser?
[04:43] <sam113101> not sure I can view videos before they are downloaded
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:   you dont need a browser to get stuff from the web.
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  go use the feature for a while and see
[04:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone here have a grub menu with submenus I can use as an example?
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  the default grub.cfg for my systems have older kernels in a sub menu by default
[04:45] <esde> Can someone give me a hand with copy passwords out of keepass? Google is turning up nothing..
[04:45] <ObrienDave> ntzrmtthihu777... grub customizer will allow you to create submenus in grub
[04:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> ObrienDave: not useing *buntu, and I'm writing this by hand.
[04:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> Dr_Willis: would you mind pastebining it for me?
[04:45] <ssj5goku> wilee-nilee:  ok now its just updating to 13.10.... will it be ok after updating???
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  not sure if this netbook has any. ;) let me pastebin it
[04:46] <sam113101> wow man
[04:46] <bean> ntzrmtthihu777, this is an ubuntu support channel, btw.
[04:46] <sam113101> I've never seen a release that has this many bugs
[04:47] <Romance> so how good is 13.10
[04:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> bean: I'm aware. Its just the only distro I have familiar with that uses submenus and I figured at least someone here would have what I needed.
[04:47] <wilee-nilee> ssj5goku, will what be okay, you need to give details.
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6254997/
[04:47] <sam113101> Romance: not good
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  cant say ive seen any of the issues
[04:47] <ssj5goku> wilee-nilee: ok what type of details do you want...pls tell me...
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> Romance:  works well for many people so far it seems.
[04:47] <Romance> i will try it tonight
[04:47] <ObrienDave> pebcak ;)
[04:48] <sam113101> Dr_Willis: I've had many issues so far
[04:48] <sam113101> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1241252
[04:48] <sam113101> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1241258
[04:48] <wilee-nilee> !details | ssj5goku to the channel not me.
[04:48] <topper4125> I only go from LTS to LTS... I'm good till 2017
[04:48] <Yowl> Dr_Willis: How about zeitgeist, is that unity only? Is that disableable? What is it's point?
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> using xubuntu here on my netbook in 13.10
[04:48] <sam113101> two of them
[04:49] <sam113101> the major ones, you know
[04:49] <ObrienDave> pebcak ;)
[04:49] <Rena> can the standard install ISO do encrypted disks or do I need the alternate
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  read up on it on its homepage/wiki page..  Its not unity only as far as i know.   and yes. the blog sites i mentioned earlier mention how to disable it if you really want to.
[04:49] <wilee-nilee> !details | ssj5goku
[04:49] <cfhowlett> topper4125, indeed.  plus now the interim releases are on 6 month support cycles, LTS is looking REALLY good.  Interim releases are for the beta testers, in effect
[04:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> Dr_Willis: exactly what I need, thank you.
[04:50] <ssj5goku> yaa sorry but now i checked its working fine.....
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  thats from a pc thats been release updated seeral times. :) with like 20 kernels. ;)
[04:50] <topper4125> Pretty much how I feel about it too cfhowlett ;)
[04:50] <wilee-nilee> ssj5goku, to the channel not me, however without fixing what they were you are now doing doing distro upgrade
[04:50] <wilee-nilee> ssj5goku, Did you not run a update in the install before trying to do installs?
[04:51] <ObrienDave> Rena... yes, the standard can do an encrypted home directory
[04:51] <ObrienDave> brb
[04:51] <Rena> but can it do the full disk encryption
[04:51] <Yowl> Dr_Willis: Is zeitgeist installed by default in ubuntu and xubuntu?
[04:51] <ssj5goku> no
[04:52] <wilee-nilee> ssj5goku, In linux after a install you have to run a update to get the repos synced with the instal.
[04:53] <ObrienDave> Rena... sorry, that I don't know.
[04:53] <topper4125> I do tend to grab the newest wallpapers though... always like those...
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  ubuntu defainatly. no idea on xubuntu
[04:54] <ssj5goku> ok thanks for the heads up.... actually i m new to ubuntu and i dont know anything ...
[04:55] <Yowl> Dr_Willis: Is it part of the unity DE? Or even if I switch DEs it will still be up and running unless disabled?
[04:55] <irrelev4nt> hi all. does anybody here use Ubuntu and Win8 in a dual boot with SecureBoot enabled? I could use some help, please.
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  cant say ive ever noticed.  Unity uses it. it dosent require unity i belive
[04:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> Yowl: some things depend on it, but you can tweak the debs to remove that
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  why are you even worried about it? you dident even seem to know what it does earlier.
[04:56] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: did you ever see how video game performance is?
[04:56] <zeifer> no games downloaded yet.
[04:56] <Yowl> ntzrmtthihu777: You mean unity things, What is it's purpose? I keep on reading a general description of it recording and making associations, but not of its purpose
[04:56] <zeifer> Still trying to get audio to cooperate
[04:56] <sam113101> I hate ubuntu 13.10
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  it shows me what recent files ive used and how much time spent doing stuff to them
[04:56] <Yowl> Dr_Willis: Why do you think something unknown should be worried about the least? Sounds like head in sand logic
[04:57] <Yowl> Dr_Willis: What use is that?
[04:57] <bean> Yowl, why not google instead of playing 20 questions?
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  if the boss asks how long you have been working on a word processing doc...
[04:57] <bean> this is a support channel
[04:57] <bean> not a 20 questions channel
[04:57] <Yowl> bean: Because I did google first
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> bean:  yep.. good answer
[04:57] <kaitrek> i have a problem, my NFS mount is showing 65534 user and group ID, why?
[04:58] <Yowl> bean: Well actually I duckduckgo.com first, but whatever
[04:58] <kaitrek> it's supposed to be something like 400:200
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/180990/what-is-zeitgeist-used-for
[04:58] <bean> !ot | Yowl
[04:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> Yowl: its purpose is to index your actions for better or worse and eat process space :P
[04:58] <sam113101> !guidelines
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> In the context of Ubuntu, it is a software package that remembers your activities to try and assist in narrowing down what you want to do without having to tell the computer as explicitly.
[04:59] <Yowl> Dr_Willis: Ok that's a bit more specific, but could I please get a working example?
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  nope.. go read the url
[04:59] <sam113101> now the clock has disappeared
[04:59] <zeifer> I'll be right back, Ari-Yang . Seems I wasn't added to group audio either.
[04:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> Yowl: it remembers what you type in the dash and such.
[04:59] <sam113101> wtf
[04:59] <Yowl> Dr_Willis: I did read it I said
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> i mentioned word processing a doc and the boss asking for your time spent
[04:59] <cfhowlett> !language|sam113101,
[04:59] <mih1406> Ubuntu 13.10 missing Eclipse IDS update!!
[04:59] <sam113101> language?
[04:59] <Yowl> ntzrmtthihu777: What purpose does it serve, other then being able to rat you out to your boss?
[05:00] <MacFan> I just tried lubuntu 12.10, and it didn't freeze up on the b43 driver, it finished booting and stopped at a command prompt, is there something I have to type to start some sort of gui?
[05:00] <mih1406> Ubuntu 13.10 missing Eclipse IDE update!!
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> and this is where everyone starts ignoreing...
[05:00] <ubuntuaddicted> does anyone know how to move the steam games to another location than ~/.local/share/Steam?
[05:00] <Ari-Yang> MacFan: run startx ?
[05:00] <ubuntuaddicted> and would NFS over 100Mbit be fast enough?
[05:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> Yowl: not much. it irked me so I ripped it out by the roots XD
[05:00] <MacFan> ok, thx, I'm totally new to this.  :)
[05:00] <BuzZBladE> ubuntuaddicted, symlinks ?
[05:00] <cfhowlett> ubuntuaddicted, steam has a games backup function.  backup it up, move it?
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> ubuntuaddicted:  use a soft link, would be one way
[05:00] <Ari-Yang> MacFan: but you shouldn't have to....
[05:00] <Ari-Yang> meh
[05:01] <sam113101> Ubuntu — restart your computer until it works correctly
[05:01] <jetsaredim> anyone know what happened with ia32-libs?
[05:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> mih1406: yep. you're better off installing it yourself from the eclipse site's tarball
[05:01] <topper4125> Type 'cal' in seach.... if you click CALculator more times than CALendar, it'll eventually put the calculator icon first in the results (unless your name is calven.. then your home folder will reign supreme now matter what)
[05:01] <sprity> 100mbit are ondly ~11-12 mb/s
[05:01] <sprity> really slow for loading games
[05:02] <mih1406> ntzrmtthihu777, is there a reason behind that?
[05:02] <ubuntuaddicted> sprity, ok. what about a USB2.0 external hard drive formatted as ext4?
[05:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> mih1406: ubuntu usually doesn't have cutting edge stuff without ppa's and such.
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> ubuntuaddicted:  you could mount the hd to whever you want. or use soft links
[05:02] <sprity> ubntuaddicted: would be much faster :-)
[05:03] <BuzZBladE> ubuntuaddicted, ln –s file/folder_path link_path
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> i never give ln -s examples, i always get them backwards
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[05:03] <ubuntuaddicted> are you guys stating this from experience or just what you found. cause i've seen some say symlink works and others say no
[05:04] <irrelev4nt> is anyone here knowledgeable about Ubuntu & SecureBoot?
[05:04] <sprity> ubuntuaddicted: USB2.0 can do 480 Mbit/s = ~ 60 mb/s
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> ubuntuaddicted:  i see no reason why they wouldent work  if its on a properly setup external disk
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> ubuntuaddicted:  dont expect fast load times
[05:04] <ObrienDave> ubuntuaddicted... probably like anything else, some like, some don't. go figure
[05:04] <BuzZBladE> ive used symlinks for years, if done correctly both folder locations would appear identicial
[05:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> !ask | irrelev4nt
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> you could put your whole home on the external USB if you wanted
[05:06] <topper4125> ... do'able... yes... recomended... doubtful :)
[05:07] <ubuntuaddicted> ok, so i would just make sure steam is closed, then move the ~/.local/share/Steam folder to my external USB disk and then create a symlink like ln -s ~/.local/share/Steam /media/external/usb/disk/steam  and then fire up steam and it should see everything and also install new games to the external disk>
[05:07] <ubuntuaddicted> ?
[05:07] <irrelev4nt> I have Ubuntu on a Surface Pro, I need SecureBoot enabled. Boot-Repair enabled UEFI but I can't boot, though.
[05:07] <irrelev4nt> Any ideas where I can look for troubleshooting?
[05:07] <topper4125> !uefi
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> ubuntuaddicted:  make sure your user has full rights to the device.  and  you may want to make a fstab entry for the drive so its mounted at boot time
[05:08] <MacFan> I guess that 12.10 doesn't work so well on the mac after all, it says kernel 3.5.0 17 powerpc64 smp, but when I type startx, it quits, saying fatal error no screens found
[05:08] <ubuntuaddicted> Dr_Willis, indeed, thanks guys
[05:08] <irrelev4nt> topper4125: I followed that guide to the letter but it still does not work. That's exactly why I am asking here
[05:08] <ObrienDave> another happy customer ;)
[05:09] <Ari-Yang> MacFan: it's not that 12.10 doesn't work "well on the mac"... it's that installation of 12.10 is fail
[05:09] <Ari-Yang> :|
[05:09] <sam113101> I'm pissed
[05:09] <Ari-Yang> sam113101: aren't we all?
[05:09] <MacFan> ok, is just the bootable cdrom, its not installed
[05:10] <Ari-Yang> MacFan: wait, did you just install 12.10?
[05:10] <MacFan> no
[05:10] <Ari-Yang> today
[05:10] <cfhowlett> sam113101, we know.  and?  if you want actual support, past the requested details.  or rant elsewhre.
[05:10] <Ari-Yang> oh
[05:10] <MacFan> just booted off the cd
[05:10] <Ari-Yang> MacFan: so you were attempting to install it?
[05:10] <sam113101> as I said, I can't watch videos, they play too fast and they don't have sound
[05:10] <sam113101> that's all I can say
[05:10] <cfhowlett> irrelev4nt, there are multiple guides to installing on a surface pro.
[05:10] <MacFan> no, I wanted to boot from the cd, hopefully with the gui, so I could get a feel for ubuntu, and learn a little about it
[05:10] <cfhowlett> !details|sam113101,
[05:10] <bean> MacFan, and on a PPC mac? I'd recommend a better supported PPC distro than ubuntu tbh
[05:10] <sam113101> obviously I have other issues, but that's the most important one
[05:11] <Ari-Yang> MacFan: ah I see
[05:11] <sam113101> cfhowlett: what kind of details?
[05:11] <ObrienDave> pebcak ;)
[05:11] <cfhowlett> sam113101, read
[05:11] <cfhowlett> !details
[05:11] <irrelev4nt> cfhowlett: but all of them disable SecureBoot which I can't for my reasons ...
[05:11] <sam113101> I'm running ubuntu 13.10
[05:11] <MacFan> bean, I looked up debian ppc, and can't find an iso to download, online there are many complaints about yellowdog, so ubuntu was my only other choice
[05:11] <sam113101> I expect videos to play at normal speed, and have sound
[05:11] <Ari-Yang> sam113101: what video player are you using?
[05:12] <Ari-Yang> sam113101: is this a laptop or desktop? what video card does it have?
[05:12] <MacFan> also want to thank you guys for the advice and trying to help out, your great.
[05:12] <sam113101> Ari-Yang: totem and youtube
[05:12] <cfhowlett> irrelev4nt, ah.  ok.  if there's a guide on the !touch page, I'd run with that.  if not, I'd suggest this might not be doable as yet.
[05:12] <topper4125> sam113101 local videos? Youtube? HardDrive? Optical Drive?? Details.
[05:12] <sam113101> happens on both
[05:12] <kaitrek> i have a problem, my NFS mount is showing 65534 user and group ID, why?
[05:12] <Ari-Yang> sam113101: lol totem use mplayer or better yet mpv
[05:12] <sam113101> also the sound is sped up on rhythmbox
[05:13] <irrelev4nt> cfhowlett: what's the !touch page? Sorry, I am new to IRC
[05:13] <Ari-Yang> sam113101: maybe you're missing codecs or something
[05:13] <cfhowlett> !touch|irrelev4nt,
[05:13] <irrelev4nt> thanks
[05:13] <sam113101> it's not a player problem
[05:13] <cfhowlett> sam113101, try this in  a terminal:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:13] <Ari-Yang> you may need to install something
[05:14] <cfhowlett> sam113101, without the codecs, your media could do exactly as you've described
[05:14] <ObrienDave> it worked before, it's not working after the upgrade. it couldn't possibly be a codec problem ;)
[05:15] <sam113101> ObrienDave: I don't upgrade from the software updater, when I do it breaks everything
[05:15] <sam113101> so I reinstall everything
[05:15] <sam113101> every 6 months
[05:16] <cfhowlett> sam113101, unless you actually need the latest OS, I'd suggest you look at the LTS version; 5 year support
[05:17] <sam113101> brb, restarting my computer
[05:17] <ObrienDave> that'll fix it
[05:17] <sam113101> it's like rolling a dice
[05:17] <sam113101> you never know
[05:19] <sam113101> yay!
[05:19] <sam113101> one less issue
[05:19] <sam113101> thank you whoever it was
[05:19] <sam113101> ready for another issue?
[05:20] <ObrienDave> pebcak ;)
[05:21] <sam113101> I had some keyboard mappings with xmodmap
[05:21] <sam113101> they stopped working when I updated to 13.10
[05:21] <cheesecakes> hello
[05:21] <cheesecakes> good morning (UGT)
[05:21] <cheesecakes> can someone tell me what does ubuntu use for mounting mtp devices?
[05:22] <cheesecakes> i am suspecting gvfs-mtp but i'm not sure
[05:24] <sam113101> hoping to hear from you again, your dearest friend, sam113101
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> cheesecakes, which release, and why?
[05:25] <cheesecakes> wilee-nilee: the reason is kind of strange
[05:25] <cheesecakes> ok here it is
[05:26] <cheesecakes> it works perfectly with my cell phone and i want to implement the same functionality on my arch
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> cheesecakes:  i think its gvfs-mtp also. but mtp is sort of a work in progress it seems. ;) i rarely find it works for more then just simple copying
[05:26] <cheesecakes> Dr_Willis: i see
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> cheesecakes:  i rarely find or hear of it 'working perfectly' ;) and there was an omgubuntu/webupd8 blog posting or 2 on setting it up on older ubuntus
[05:26] <cheesecakes> but ubuntu has great support for my device atleast
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> those guides may have info for other disrtos
[05:27] <cheesecakes> i run 13.x
[05:27] <cheesecakes> it works great under ubuntu
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> 13.10  here.  i can mount my phone and copy/move files.. but for example video files will NOT play directly from the phone, or audio
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> all i can do is copy/move files
[05:27] <cheesecakes> Dr_Willis: oh i see
[05:27] <cheesecakes> let me try and copy/move files
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> i dont even get previews
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> I find it MUCH easier to just use airdroid on my android devices
[05:28] <cfhowlett> ^^^^
[05:28] <cfhowlett> what he said
[05:28] <cheesecakes> ok copy works
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> airdroid is a must have even if you use MTP
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> cheesecakes:  where were you doing that you said it 'worked perfectly' ? ;)
[05:28] <cheesecakes> Dr_Willis: thanks, i was trying to play files and it wasnt working so i assumed the worst
[05:29] <cheesecakes> Dr_Willis: no no i can play stuff from my ubuntu install perfectly
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> cheesecakes:  playing files - dont work.  at all as far as i know. seen others ask it in here also
[05:29] <ObrienDave> MTP did not preserve file name for me. how about now?
[05:29] <cheesecakes> or maybe i havent tried it and assumed it works
[05:29] <cheesecakes> copy/move is all i need tho
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> of coruse if you want to play files.. set up a upnp/dlna server on the phone ;)
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[05:30] <cheesecakes> awesome
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> airdroid  lets you send sms and other things to the phone from the pc ;
[05:30] <cheesecakes> Dr_Willis: thanks, if it werent for you i wouldn't have tried to cp, i was stuck at cat
[05:30] <cheesecakes> Dr_Willis: i have it installed, i also have webkey
[05:30] <cheesecakes> which is more awesome
[05:30] <cheesecakes> imo
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> Ive not used webkey in ages.
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> my current phone is not rooted ;)
[05:31] <cheesecakes> ahh i see
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> and every update to my tablet keeps unrooting it. :P
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> silly tablet
[05:31] <cheesecakes> Dr_Willis: get off your lazy ass and root it
[05:31] <cheesecakes> :P
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> there was some bug in the one-click-unrooter i was using the other week. not tried it lately
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> and not even really needing root on it ;)
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> well bbl..
[05:32] <cheesecakes> what device do you use?
[05:32] <cheesecakes> ok ok
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> nexus 7 ;)
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> and no im not putting touch on it. :)
[05:32] <cheesecakes> ahh i use a sony xperia L
[05:32] <cheesecakes> haha
[05:34] <topper4125> <-- changes ring tone on Nexus 7 to "Can't touch this"
[05:36] <cheesecakes> if i had a nexus 7 it would def be running ubuntu
[05:36] <cheesecakes> :D
[05:36] <zato> hola,como dejo libre office en español en ubuntu 13.10?
[05:36] <topper4125> !es
[05:40] <Kuroshita> hey all, I'm just wodering if there have been any reports/studies done to show that Ubuntu doesn't "phone home" when you do dash searches AFTER the smart scopes are disabled?
[05:40] <andry> wireshark it :P
[05:41] <topper4125> I always install from : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD then build it to taste... I know exactly what my machine does and when
[05:42] <Kuroshita> Thanks andry, good thinking, brain is frazzled today
[05:42] <andry> :)
[05:43] <delhivery> Hi, one of my usb ports on all my eeePCs don't work, how can I resolve this/
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> delhivery:  what specifc make?
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> both mine seem to nbe working here
[05:44] <delhivery> Dr_Willis: 1015e
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> yep. both ports work.  on  1001pxd here
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> using 13.10 ;)
[05:46] <topper4125> eee's only have 2?
[05:53] <delhivery> topper4125: mine have 3, one usb2 and the usb3 works, the second usb2 doesn't
[05:54] <topper4125> ah... Im on an aspire one netbook 3 on this machine too. all work on it.
[05:56] <bray90820> How well does the ubuntu desktop work with a touch screen
[05:56] <topper4125> but I also don't run 13.10, I'm running Mini LTS on this one.
[05:57] <xor__> Has anyone noticed image tearing watching videos with ubuntu Gnome 13.10?
[05:57] <andry> xor__, intel graphic?
[05:57] <xor__> andry, no, nvidia.
[05:58] <xor__> I tried changing the settings in /etc/environment like I did for the previous version with little success.
[05:58] <andry> intel has the tear-free option, maybe nvidia has this too
[05:58] <andry> (for X)
[05:58] <xor__> I say little because the tearing decreased, but it's still there. I didn't have this problem with 13.4.
[05:58] <andry> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1687207 see this
[05:59] <xor__> I'll look up that option. thanks andry.
[05:59] <zeifer> I guess Ari isn't here now. Bummer, I was going to let them know that Big Picture works alright. Still having audio issues, though.
[05:59] <andry> :)
[06:00] <xor__> The forum link isn't relevant, Ubuntu Gnome uses mutter not compiz.
[06:02] <andry> oops sorry, it is pretty old, sorry
[06:03] <andry> are you using nvidia or nouveau as driver?
[06:05] <xor__> andry, proprietary driver. I think I found the problem: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669122
[06:05] <tomlikestorock> I have two hard drives in my system - the first is ubuntu, the second is win8. I boot off of the first one, and use grub to get to win8 when I want to. Lately, though, I've found that win8 has been unable to boot due to weird self checking boot record stuff
[06:05] <tomlikestorock> Is it best to have win8 on the first drive and ubuntu on the second?
[06:05] <xor__> It doesn't seem to be fixed yet, even though this didn't happen to me on a previous version.
[06:05] <ssj5goku> i cant get any audio on ubuntu... my speaker is connected to my monitor and my monitor is connected to my cpu through hdmi ...wat should i do ...pls help..
[06:05] <xor__> On version 3.8 it doesn't seem to be fixed.
[06:07] <zeifer> I'm seeking similar answers, ssj5goku
[06:07] <zeifer> Not much luck so far.
[06:07] <ssj5goku> wouldn't installing any type of drivers could help??
[06:07] <zeifer> Hey Ari-Yang! I can report that Big Picture is working on Steam. It's a bit jumpy at times, but it functions.
[06:08] <andry> okay xor__ , i thought you may try xorg-edgers for a newer nouveau driver, but then i cannot help :/
[06:08] <zeifer> We've already tried running audio without pulseaudio installed and ran into a barrier. Ended up reinstalling pulse, ssj5goku. Experiment for me and see if you can get audio through a headphone port.
[06:09] <ssj5goku> ok den i will connect my speakers to the output of my motherboard and see if it works,zeifer...
[06:10] <xor__> andry, reports on the bug maillist point to an even worse situation using the nouveau driver.
[06:10] <andry> yea just read it :D
[06:11] <andry> i switched to intel graphics to get rid of all these nvidia/fglrx problems in linux
[06:11] <ola2> i want to apt get to specific directory
[06:11] <ola2> how could i plz help
[06:12] <bigbadben> I am trying to grep a log file, find what I am looking for then skip one line and print the one after that,  so I .... cat logfile.txt | grep -A 2 -B 1 "wlan0" >> newLogFile
[06:12] <bigbadben> obviously that does not work though
[06:12] <xor__> andry, I don't plan to do the same.
[06:13] <andry> hehe, yes, it is not an alternative
[06:13] <xor__> Thanks for the help.
[06:13] <andry> sorry i couldnt help
[06:13] <ola2> plz tell me how to apt-get to particular directory
[06:13] <ssj5goku> yaa it worked when i connected y speakers on my motherboard
[06:14] <zeifer> Seems you have the same issue that I do. I'm on a laptop and it only outputs to headphones and not onboard speakers. Can't seem to find anybody around to help solve this issue.
[06:15] <Ari-Yang> [02:07:56] <zeifer> Hey Ari-Yang! I can report that Big Picture is working on Steam. It's a bit jumpy at times, but it functions. ---> ah that's good. I heard that there's even better performance on 3.12 rc-5, if you want you can install it or just wait 'til it's stable
[06:17] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, stable is good. :) Just trying to nail down this sound problem now.
[06:17] <andry> dont you have to toggle to hdmi output?
[06:17] <ola2> plz can anybody help
[06:17] <ola2> i want to get apt to specific directory
[06:17] <andry> ola2, i dont know what you mean
[06:17] <ola2> means to download packages to specific directory
[06:18] <andry> apt-get download package
[06:18] <andry> this downloads the deb
[06:18] <ola2> i want it to specific directory
[06:18] <andry> just cd in the directory first :P
[06:19] <zeifer> ola2, Are you looking to transport these packages from one computer to another for the purpose of offline installation?
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> thats too logical
[06:19] <ola2>  but they are installed in var all the time
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[06:19] <ola2> means in var apt
[06:20] <ola2> every time they are downloaded in apt
[06:20] <andry> "apt-get download bla" downloads the deb to the cd
[06:20] <andry> and does not install
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> i think you are using  the terms 'download' and 'install' incorrectly
[06:20] <apb_> I just installed a package with apt-get install...but it doesn't show up on my K menu...  Is there a way to make it show up, ideally without having to logout?
[06:20] <HisaoNakai> What's a good terminal for writing in Hindi using iBus? o.o
[06:20] <andry> or use "apt-get -d -o=dir::cache=/cache/path"
[06:21] <ola2> ok
[06:21] <HisaoNakai> (xfce-terminal and gnome-terminal both behave strangely with Hindi characters, although it does work)
[06:21] <ola2> this one has worked
[06:21] <ola2> thank you
[06:21] <andry> :)
[06:21] <ola2> thanks a lot
[06:22] <ola2> one more thing
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> apt-get download pastebinit
[06:22] <ola2> i have a package
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> downloaded the pastebinit.deb to my home directory
[06:22] <ola2> and i want to test it again with different configs
[06:22] <ola2> how to uninstall that deb
[06:22] <ola2> how to uninstall a package
[06:22] <zeifer> Not sure who all is actively online right now so I'll ask my question again.
[06:23] <andry> dpkg -r bla (where bla is NOT the filename, but the package name) or apt-get remove bla
[06:23] <zeifer> I have a Compaq Presario CQ62 that produces sound through the headset port and not out of the onboard speakers. All settings look good, pulseaudio registers the sound being played but audio does not come from speakers. No headset is plugged in.
[06:23] <andry> zeifer, there are a lot of audio experts here sometimes :)
[06:24] <zeifer> andry, I just choose bad times to ask some questions. Lol
[06:25] <chxane> how do I upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 from the command line?
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> sudo gdebi foo.deb    is what i use ola2
[06:25] <bscrew> how can i do a fresh install instead of upgrading? without downloading an iso and all that shit
[06:25] <ola2> ok
[06:25] <ola2> thank you
[06:25] <zeifer> Ari was awesome with the video problem I had with legacy drivers. The sound problem is a bit less of an issue if I always use a headset, but I rarely use a headset so.... yeah.
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> a 'fresh' install- to me means you refromat the partions.. and thus would need either a boot medium. or use debootstrap
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> downloading the iso files for 13.10 via torrents should be quite quick right now
[06:26] <topper4125> HisaoNakai: terminal 'mlterm' supports hindi rendering.
[06:26] <braden_> 13.10 torrent takes about 5 mins to download
[06:26] <zeifer> braden_, I envy you and your connection, then. :p
[06:26] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: wish I could help with the sound problem :L But glad to hear that video is fine.... I'd ask again here to see if anybody knows and google around
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> takes longer toburn then to download. ;)
[06:26] <andry> hehe :) yes, audio problems are hard to solve sometimes ..
[06:27] <topper4125> !minimal
[06:27] <topper4125> 30 Meg download...
[06:27] <andry> and then apt-get 500 more
[06:27] <andry> :D
[06:27] <zeifer> Google has been very unkind to me so far. Ari-Yang. I've been getting hits on articles and threads that are so far necro'd that dinosaurs look fresh.
[06:28] <Ari-Yang> :V
[06:28] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: so you have pulse installed now? did you make sure you install it right?
[06:28] <topper4125> One thing about this machine (that runs a mini install) 'tis very very stable
[06:28] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: tbh I think you should use alsa instead.... and you did uninstall and remove pulse before installing alsa properly, aye?
[06:29] <zeifer> It's back to factory now, Ari-Yang. Pulse was installed by default so the packages we removed experimentally were just put back on.
[06:29] <Ari-Yang> k
[06:30] <apb_> zeifer use google's time option to specify a time range.
[06:31] <niftylettuce> anyone here use APM 2.5 or HobbyKing boards/telemetry stuff?  wild shot at trying to answer a question i have... no other channels yield folks
[06:31] <andry> any recommendations for a well working wifi chipset? :P
[06:31] <andry> rt3070 (via 2870usb) has a lot of tx drops since linux > 3.3
[06:32] <braden_> Anyone here trying out xubuntu? I have a question and #xubuntu is dead atm
[06:33] <Ari-Yang> !ask > braden_
[06:33] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: if your video card supports UVD2.2, you could also watch videos with hardware video decoding, what HD4000 series card do you have again?
[06:34] <zeifer> HD 4250, Ari-Yang
[06:34] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: ah nvm... it is UVD2 which is not yet supported
[06:35] <zeifer> That's okay, I usually use VLC for everything, seems to work okay.
[06:35] <chare> ok I got ubuntu Saucy installed, wtf is that envelope icon at the top right?
[06:35] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: I recommend mplayer or any mplayer fork over VLC, but that's me
[06:35] <chare> how do I get rid of it
[06:35] <Ari-Yang> if VLC works fine for you, that's okay
[06:36] <zeifer> I'm most familiar with it since it's been my player of choice even on Windows.
[06:36] <k1l> chare: its for messages, like chat-status, new mails etc
[06:36] <smash__> hello everyone, I have a broadcome wireless card, I need to set the propriatery drivers but i dont know how
[06:36] <k1l> chare: and its not new since 13.10. its been in ubuntu a long time
[06:37] <Ari-Yang> smash__: what ubuntu version are you running?
[06:37] <apb_> i've been  using amarok for listening to radio, etc.
[06:37] <smash__> I downloaded Ubuntu last night, 13.10
[06:37] <braden_> Are NVIDIA drivers broken now with 13.10? I've tried a number of patches and nothing I'm doing is working.
[06:37] <Ari-Yang> smash__: go to system settings, search for 'software sources' (or go to dash board and search for software sources), then go to the 'Additional Drivers' tab and you should see proprietary drivers there
[06:37] <chare> k1l: so how do I get rid of it
[06:38] <k1l> braden_: there is no general problem with nvidia. please give more details
[06:38] <smash__> thx
[06:38] <Ari-Yang> np
[06:39] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: you're using xfce right? did you try to see if audio is fine on another DE?
[06:39] <zeifer> Aside from using Linux Mint prior to moving over to Xubuntu, no I haven't, Ari-Yang .
[06:39] <Ari-Yang> ah, okay
[06:39] <zeifer> The issue was present even on that distro but not on Windows.
[06:40] <Ari-Yang> odd
[06:40] <zeifer> Just really, really, REALLY, don't wanna go back to Windows on here.
[06:40] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: so audio won't come out of your laptop's speakers?
[06:40] <zeifer> Correct.
[06:40] <zeifer> Just the headphone port.
[06:40] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: what laptop is this?
[06:41] <zeifer> Compaq Presario CQ62
[06:43] <ssj5goku> Was trying to updae ubuntu frim 13.04 to 13.10 and my system got hanged and is still anand I am nit able to move my mouse pointer ...... it had already downloaded 240.4 mb and the totam download ws 271.4mb.... what to do????
[06:43] <ssj5goku> *update
[06:43] <ssj5goku> *from
[06:43] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: maybe try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1741256 ?
[06:43] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: though before trying maybe you should go back to alsa?
[06:44] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: what's the output of sudo aplay -l ?
[06:44] <Ari-Yang> pastebin it
[06:44] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, Pulseaudio was installed by default and removing pulse only lead to so many different configs having references to pulseaudio.
[06:44] <zeifer> sec on command.
[06:44] <ola2> plz help me
[06:45] <ola2> i have downloaded a deb package
[06:45] <ola2> i installed it
[06:45] <ola2> but  dependencies are not installed
[06:45] <ola2> how to do that
[06:45] <Ari-Yang> ola2: what deb package did you install?
[06:45] <zeifer> Home directory not accessible: Permission denied
[06:46] <zeifer> card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC270 Analog [ALC270 Analog]
[06:46] <zeifer>   Subdevices: 1/1
[06:46] <zeifer>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[06:46] <zeifer>  Ari-Yang
[06:46] <FloodBot1> zeifer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:46] <andry>  
[06:46] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: run the command using sudo and pastebin it
[06:46] <ola2> sir plz help me
[06:46] <zeifer> That was sudo'd
[06:46] <ola2> how to apt-get download with dependency
[06:47] <Ari-Yang> oh
[06:47] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: what's the output of find /lib/modules/`uname -r` | grep snd
[06:48] <Ari-Yang> pastebin it
[06:48] <jalcine> ola2: dude, apt-get *downloads* dependencies.
[06:48] <ola2>  but when i installed it
[06:48] <ola2> it said dependeny not installed
[06:48] <andry> jalcine, he means just download the files with apt-get download
[06:48] <andry> the debs
[06:48] <ola2> ya but with dependencies
[06:48] <ola2> i want to give this package to my friend
[06:49] <Ari-Yang> ola2: copy and paste the terminal output in pastebin
[06:49] <andry> ola2, try "aptitude --download-only" instead of apt-get download, maybe aptitude downloads with depends
[06:49] <ola2> i want dependencies to be downloaded with deb
[06:50] <ola2> and then when i install they should install automatically
[06:51] <andry> that is why apt or aptitude exists
[06:51] <andry> what do you plan to do?
[06:51] <ola2> i will download a p[ackage
[06:51] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, big long list. http://pastebin.com/DUWMCy7N
[06:51] <ola2> and give it to my friend
[06:51] <ola2> so my friend will not download
[06:51] <ola2> just install and done
[06:52] <ola2> but dependencies are problem
[06:52] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: what's the output of lspci -v | grep -A7 -i "audio" ?
[06:52] <zeifer> ola2, consider, maybe, aptoncd to copy all of your packages (if you use the same ones) to a CD that can be used as an offline repo?
[06:53] <ola2> aptoncd ??
[06:53] <ola2> ok let me try it
[06:53] <andry> ,
[06:53] <ola2> thank you for help
[06:53] <andry> http://www.maketecheasier.com/update-upgrade-ubuntu-without-internet-connection/
[06:53] <andry> apt-offline is made for this
[06:54] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, http://pastebin.com/7nmDEGyA
[06:54] <zeifer> andry, Okay, if that's better than aptoncd I didn't know about it. Last I used ubuntu was back in the Hoary days or so. It's been a while.
[06:55] <andry> :) i never used aptoncd, maybe it is even better
[06:55] <ola2> does apt-get offline need to be installed on remotr pc too
[06:55] <ansu> hi :) can anyone help me with an upstart script? I'm trying to run a java process as another user like this: exec start-stop-daemon --start -c youtrack --exec java -- -jar /usr/local/youtrack/youtrack.jar 10002 but the process does not start
[06:56] <dwreck> So I just installed Ubuntu after having issues with Fedora and the I am having the same problem.  I can't access certain secure websites.  Gmail, facebook. Amazon, etc... Has anyone ever experienced this before?
[06:57] <somsip> dwreck: do you connect through a proxy? Because I think all of those sites work on https by default now
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> dwreck:  cant say ive ever seen  that issue mentoioned here.
[06:57] <thnee> I am using a different desktop, awesome wm. When I run nautitlus it changes the desktop background. Why on earth would it do that?
[06:58] <somsip> thnee: does it change the nautulus background, or the awesome background?
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> thnee:  because natilus is designed to manage the 'desktop' unless you start it with some specific options to tell it not to
[06:58] <thnee> somsip: The desktop background
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> see nautilus --help     perhaps
[06:58] <helmut_> hi
[06:58] <thnee> ugh, maybe I should just switch file browser instead
[06:59] <somsip> thnee: pcmanfm in awesomewm here...
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> --no-desktop                Never manage the desktop (ignore the GSetting)
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> other file managers can do the same thing. ;)
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> use mc   ;)
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> !info mc
[07:00] <thnee> somsip: looks great, thanks!
[07:00] <somsip> thnee: it's lightweight, but it isn't the only alternative to nautilus. Works for me though
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> !info rox-filer
[07:00] <zeifer> Great for the minimalists. :)
[07:01] <Snowie> hi all.
[07:01] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: I think you should uninstall pulseaudio and install alsa
[07:01] <zeifer> Alsa is still installed and is needed for pulse to work.
[07:01] <Ari-Yang> no
[07:01] <Ari-Yang> you're still using pulseaudio
[07:01] <andry> alsa is the kernel side audio
[07:01] <andry> pulse uses alsa
[07:01] <zeifer> Unfortunately, with the factory installed nature of pulseaudio in this distro, if pulse is missing alsa won't work. :(
[07:01] <Ari-Yang> I prefer you to remove pulseaudio and just have alsa
[07:01] <zykotick9> thnee: fyi, you can launch nautilus without it taking over your desktop, but rox or pcmanfm are better suggestions really ;)
[07:02]  * andry must try rox
[07:02] <Ari-Yang> isn't there a trigger for directions of uninstalling pulseaudio?
[07:02] <ola2> i dont want aptoncd
[07:02] <ola2> plz tell me a better way
[07:02] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1693726 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1313253 I found these
[07:02] <Ari-Yang> I'm sure there are other guides too
[07:02] <gordonjcp> ola2: what are you trying to do?
[07:02] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, we tried removing pulse and alsa just stopped. It constantly tried to push through pulse even when it wasn't there. I don't know how many conf files reference pulseaudio.
[07:02] <ansu> can anyone help me with this expression I'm trying to use in an upstart script? "exec start-stop-daemon --start -c youtrack --exec java -- -jar /usr/local/youtrack/youtrack.jar 10002"
[07:02] <ola2> i want to give a deb package to my friend
[07:03] <ola2> its name is nmap
[07:03] <ola2> and i will give this package with dependency
[07:03] <ola2> how to do it
[07:03] <ola2> i downloaded nmap
[07:03] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: when removing pulseaudio you have to uninstall alsa too I think, take a look at those instructions
[07:03] <Ari-Yang> it's worth a shot
[07:03] <ola2> but couldnot install it
[07:03] <ola2> dependency not found
[07:03] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, alright, I'll take a peek.
[07:03] <ola2> i used apt-get download nmap
[07:04] <ola2> and then install nmap.deb
[07:04] <Ari-Yang> thnee: I had this problem of a fake nautilus window opening when I clicked on "open file location" in deluge....
[07:04] <Ari-Yang> thnee: I prevented by doing a little "hack"
[07:05] <andry> ola2, you can just download the deb packages for nmap PLUS libblas3 liblinear-tools liblinear1
[07:05] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, in the first link, do you think instructions from 10.10 will still be useful in 13.04?
[07:05] <andry> -s
[07:05] <ola2> ok so i should
[07:05] <zeifer> And 2nd link is 9.10
[07:05] <ola2> apt-get download nmap -S ...
[07:05] <ola2> ike this
[07:05] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: most likely, if you feel uncomfortable search for recent directions, like for 12.04 or 12.10
[07:06] <Ari-Yang> I could've sworn there was an ubottu trigger that linked to removing pulseaudio...
[07:07] <andry> did you try http://itsfoss.com/fix-sound-ubuntu-1304-quick-tip/
[07:07] <andry> zeifer,
[07:09] <papul> hi. I have a dell vostro 2520 laptop that uses the cirrus logic cs4213 audio. I have been unable to make the internal mic work. Any ideas?
[07:09] <zeifer> Andry, haven't seen that, but it's worth a quick shot before I start removing and replacing packages again.
[07:09] <Ari-Yang> thnee: sudo mv /usr/bin/nautilus /usr/bin/nautilus.real then open up a text editor and type this out on 2 different lines #!/bin/sh exec /usr/bin/nautilus.real --no-desktop save it in /usr/bin as nautilus then run chmod +x nautilus after cd /usr/bin in terminal
[07:10] <andry> it is a very basic and simple try .. dont think it will work :/ but yes, give it a try :)
[07:10] <Guest_______> hey wincocks
[07:10] <Ari-Yang> thnee: http://paste.opensuse.org/view/raw/48731498 it would look like that
[07:11] <Guest_______> how to enable and use PBR Routing on windows 8 enterprise?
[07:11] <thnee> Ari-Yang: thanks ^^
[07:11] <Ari-Yang> thnee: you're welcome, let me know if it worked or not
[07:11] <Guest_______> hey wincocks
[07:11] <Guest_______> how to enable and use PBR Routing on windows 8 enterprise?
[07:11] <thnee> Ari-Yang: I'm gonna try to use some other program entirely ;)
[07:12] <thnee> nautilus is so slow anyway
[07:12] <Ari-Yang> thnee: okies
[07:12] <jboii> hi
[07:12] <k1l> Guest_______: wrong channel and wrong attitude
[07:12] <Guest_______> are you here wincocks?
[07:12] <bray90820> Is the ubuntu desktop for the nexus 7 still around?
[07:12] <Guest_______> how to enable and use PBR Routing on windows 8 enterprise?
[07:13] <jboii> i need an app that can check wich files that is missing to make system best possible
[07:13] <andry> thank you
[07:13] <andry> k1l
[07:13] <andry> where is wincocks :P
[07:14] <Ari-Yang> thnee: I know thunar is suppose to be light weight
[07:14] <dwreck> So I just installed Ubuntu after having issues with Fedora and the I am having the same problem.  I can't access certain secure websites.  Gmail, facebook. Amazon, etc... Has anyone ever experienced this before?
[07:14] <thnee> Ari-Yang: yeah thunar is nice, but it lacks features just like nautilus I want the power user stuff
[07:15] <Ari-Yang> thnee: what does it lack? and what file manager are you going to install?
[07:15] <k1l> dwreck: are you using a proxy or some kind of firewall?
[07:16] <thnee> Ari-Yang: settings settings settings ;) I'm not sure yet I will try different ones
[07:16] <k1l> dwreck: there is no general problem with accessing that pages
[07:16] <Ari-Yang> thnee: okay... good luck
[07:16] <Ari-Yang> I'm off
[07:16] <thnee> thanks bye
[07:16] <dwreck> I am not using a proxy and no firewall that I know of
[07:16] <wilee-nilee> dwreck, You have flash installed some of the gui uses it.
[07:17] <dwreck> flash is installed
[07:17] <somsip> dwreck: what browser?
[07:17] <Romance> does anyone use flashgot + uget here?
[07:17] <dwreck> firefox currently.  I have used chrome as well with the same issue
[07:18] <somsip> dwreck: at home or work? Direct connection or router? Can others on the same network access https ok?
[07:19] <Mrdarknezz> How do you know if ubuntu is NSA proof?
[07:20] <hexabit_m> Read sourcecode?
[07:21] <topper4125> Mrdarknezz install minimal install, and build it to taste with all the security you desire
[07:21] <topper4125> !mini
[07:21] <andry> then install mini and 200 depends ..
[07:21] <andry> unity*
[07:21] <Mrdarknezz> So there is no way to be sure?
[07:22] <somsip> Mrdarknezz: read the source code.
[07:22] <topper4125> Source code is available, download, read it, if you like it compile it...
[07:23] <topper4125> The real trick is trusting the security of your router ;)
[07:23] <k1l> Mrdarknezz: the advantage of opensource is that you could prove it yourself if you dont belivie in others
[07:24] <topper4125> And if you want to remove any and all doubt of system security, there is always LFS
[07:24] <Fallfeathers> This a good channel to ask about iptables in?
[07:24] <andry> Fallfeathers, just ask
[07:24] <bazhang> Fallfeathers, or #netfilter
[07:24] <topper4125> !ask
[07:25] <Fallfeathers> Okay okay.
[07:25] <Mrdarknezz> Fallfeathers: that is pretty much a universal rule for most irc channels
[07:25] <Mrdarknezz> Fallfeathers: Atleast the public ones
[07:25] <Romance> is it possible to write Kali Linux iso with startup disk creator?
[07:26] <somsip> !kali | Romance
[07:26] <k1l> Romance: kali is not based on ubuntu. better try unetbootin
[07:27] <Romance> somsip, startup disk creator is ubuntu preinstalled app
[07:27] <somsip> Romance: is this anything to do with Kali?
[07:27] <topper4125> Pretty much use unetbootin for all my needs of that sort
[07:27] <Romance> so the question is, is startup disc creator can ONLY write ubuntu iso?
[07:27] <somsip> Romance: fair enough
[07:27] <vagvaf> hello guys, i did a fresh install of ubuntu 13.10 while keeping my old /home partition. the new system keeps asking me for my username keyring password and won't accept the one i'm giving it (i know it's the correct)
[07:30] <Fallfeathers> So I'm in a class where we're setting up virtual networks across three Ubuntu VMs in terminals, and right now I'm trying to write iptables rules for forwarding SSH traffic through one VM acting as a packet filter to another VM acting as a bastion host. The requirement is also that source IP of the connecting host should not be visible to the bastion, and vice versa. What params should I be using here?
[07:31] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, following the 10.10 guide for removing pulse and going with alsa nowadays pulls in pulseaudio regardless of user request.
[07:32] <zeifer> Reading state information... Done Note, selecting 'pulseaudio-esound-compat' instead of 'esound'
[07:33] <staff9> hi
[07:34] <staff9> do you have a ubuntu
[07:34] <this> yes live
[07:35] <staff9> yep
[07:35] <staff9> how are you
[07:36] <this> f and y
[07:36] <staff9> I am ok
[07:37] <this> have you  experience for ununtu
[07:37] <somsip> staff9: if you just want to chat, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:37] <k1l> !details | this
[07:37] <staff9> ar I do not no sorry
[07:38] <staff9> why do we have xChat
[07:38] <staff9> so we can chat
[07:38] <staff9> but why
[07:39] <staff9> so it is fun ha
[07:39] <somsip> staff9: enough now.
[07:39] <staff9> '
[07:39] <k1l> !ot | staff9
[07:39] <bazhang> staff9, not in this channel
[07:39] <staff9> what
[07:39] <staff9> s
[07:39] <staff9> s
[07:39] <staff9> s
[07:39] <FloodBot1> staff9: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:41] <atari2600a> Anyone else stuck with sluggy graphics on older intel integrated gfx?
[07:41] <atari2600a> *in 3.10
[07:42] <Mrdarknezz> atari2600a: why would you use integrated gfx?
[07:43] <atari2600a> Mrdarknezz, because this is a chromebook
[07:43] <atari2600a> & integrated is now & forever more 'good enough' to run pretty much anything w/ a little tweaking
[07:43] <k1l> atari2600a: what exactly is the issue?
[07:43] <XATRIX> Hi guys, who can i upgrade to new ubuntu version ?
[07:43] <Jonathan____> can someone help me with a boot loader issue
[07:44] <k1l> !upgrade | XATRIX
[07:44] <ADP4U> I dunno, who?
[07:44] <Rory> Jonathan____: What issue?
[07:44] <XATRIX> ok
[07:44] <XATRIX> thanks
[07:45] <atari2600a> compiz is eating like 70-100% of one of my cores, compositing is highly sluggish, & I can't even use the official intel binary installer because it hardlinks a glib dependancy that doesn't exist in the new repos
[07:45] <Jonathan____> I purchased a computer with windows 8, I installed Kubuntu 12.10 so that I could have a dual boot, when I reboot, it doesnt give me the option of which os I want to load
[07:45] <k1l> atari2600a: for integrated intel there shouldnt be the need of installing manually
[07:46] <atari2600a> k1l, I'm assuming it's a gallium3d vs official source thing
[07:46] <atari2600a> what w/ the new Mir compatibility & all
[07:47] <atari2600a> seriously what the hell were you guys thinking
[07:47] <k1l> atari2600a: ?
[07:47] <Rory> Jonathan____: Any reason you chose 12.10 rather than 12.04 or 13.10?
[07:47] <k1l> atari2600a: are you here for ranting only?
[07:47] <atari2600a> HEY LET'S DO WAYLAND nah wayland blows lets do Mir instead it won't fragment anything derp
[07:47] <Rory> atari2600a: Bye
[07:48] <atari2600a> I wasn't here for ranting
[07:48] <Jonathan____> no
[07:48] <k1l> !guidelines | atari2600a
[07:48] <Rory> Jonathan____: I'd perhaps recommend using the latest version (13.10 which was released yesterday) or the latest Long-Term Support version 12.04
[07:48] <nova_> Can anyone tell me how to increase the size of icons for "Window Buttons" on the xfce panel beyond 32px?
[07:49] <Grub> Hello Everyone, I've installed ubuntu 19 times so far. I'get the error attempt to read of write outside of disk hd0 message and then grub rescue. Ther is no HDD-s connected to my PC just the 16GB pendrive. I put boot loadet once on sda once sda1 once auto install and neither worked. before everything went fine even with HDD-s connected.
[07:49] <Jonathan____> ok i will try that
[07:49] <Rory> Jonathan____: Just cos 12.10 stops getting updates in April
[07:50] <Rory> Jonathan____: Plus, 13.10 is shinier
[07:50] <Jonathan____> but what if that doesnt work then what
[07:50] <Rory> Jonathan____: Then ask here
[07:50] <Rory> I mean, I can help you anyway
[07:50] <Grub> Hello Everyone, I've installed ubuntu 19 times so far. I'get the error attempt to read of write outside of disk hd0 message and then grub rescue. Ther is no HDD-s connected to my PC just the 16GB pendrive. I put boot loadet once on sda once sda1 once auto install and neither worked. before everything went fine even with HDD-s connected.
[07:50] <Rory> But I'm just giving you a geneal recommendation
[07:50] <Jonathan____> ok thanks
[07:50] <christopher4125> nova_ I believe the panel icon button size is limited to the size of the panel itself... incease it to >32px, and icons can increase
[07:51] <Rory> Grub: What Ubuntu version, does your system have a make and model?
[07:51] <Grub> rory: 13.04
[07:52] <Grub> Asrock motherboard Intel P4 CPU
[07:53] <Grub> rory P4i65G motherboard
[07:53] <Rory> Grub: OK it's possibly a problem with your installation media, did you use a DVD? A USb flash drive, or what?
[07:53] <this> hi everyone.....!
[07:53] <Grub> rory: yes
[07:53] <Grub> DVD
[07:54] <nova_> The icons do increase in size with the panel, but only up to some max limit, which appears to be 32 px
[07:54] <topper4125> Your just trying to run it off the pendrive?
[07:54] <Rory> Grub: I recommend checking the md5sum of your .iso file before burning, and using the integrity check from the first menu when you boot from the DVD
[07:54] <Rory> !md5| Grub
[07:55] <jboii> someone link me to a page i can find apps i should get
[07:55] <jboii> cool shit
[07:55] <Grub> I've done with this iso more than 10 times and worked.
[07:55] <k1l> !language | jboii
[07:56] <poizen> i seriously need some help
[07:56] <nova_> christopher4125: The icons do increase in size but only up to a max of 32 px, beyond that they don't increase in size
[07:57] <poizen> my pointer is working but it is invisible.. i've upgraded to 13.10 and i am facing this problem
[07:57] <christopher4125> nova_ hmmm ya... looks like there's a few people that have said mentioned this limit... I never knew about it till just now... :(
[07:58] <nova_> christopher4125:  I googled it for a while and it seems alot of people are having problems changing it...yeah theres supposed to be a value you can add to the settings editor thing
[07:58] <poizen> what about me? :( my pointer... help me please
[07:59] <christopher4125> hmm... lemme look nova_ I'll see if I can find anything...
[07:59] <nova_> christopher4125: It's rather annoying.  At 1080p 32 px is pretty tiny
[07:59] <nova_> christopher4125: thank you
[07:59] <poizen> nova_, can you help me please?
[08:00] <nova_> poizen: i dont know how much help i can be...can you try changing your cursor theme?
[08:00] <poizen> there is no available theme :/
[08:01] <hadifarnoud> how can I remove all files and folders except one folder? SFTP is way too slow for that and rm -Rf removes all
[08:01] <nova_> poizen: no themes other than default?
[08:01] <andry> ls * | grep -v skipme | xargs rm -rf
[08:01] <andry> @ hadifarnoud
[08:01] <poizen> nova_, no, there are two.. radiance and default.
[08:02] <hadifarnoud> thanks andry
[08:02] <nova_> poizen: and with both you have no visible cursor?
[08:02] <andry> grep -v = inverted grep :)
[08:02] <poizen> nova_, no, my cursor is perfectly working.. but its INVISIBLE :(
[08:02] <poizen> ubuntu is so buggy at times.
[08:03] <andry> poizen, you may try this in terminal: sudo apt-get install unity-tweak-tool && unity-tweak-tool --reset-unity
[08:03] <poizen> ooaky, let me do that andry
[08:04] <nova_> poizen: yes i understand thats why i wondered if its theme/image related...did you see this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1238410
[08:04] <christopher4125> nova_ do you mean just the icons on the panel itself or on the submenus (from say: applications)?
[08:05] <hadifarnoud> andry: doesn't remove directories and its contents
[08:06] <hadifarnoud> maybe I should use ls -R andry
[08:06] <nova_> christopher4125: I mean the icons that prepresent running programs in the "window buttons" plugin on the panel
[08:06] <andry> yes, or without xargs
[08:08] <nova_> christopher4125:  I'm attempting to recreat that "Unity" look with a vertical bar and icons only (no text) on the running programs.  The only part not falling in line is the icon scale
[08:09] <christopher4125> nova_ did you try http://askubuntu.com/questions/233200/how-to-increase-icon-size-of-xfce4-panel-window-buttons-panel-tasklist-menu
[08:09] <nova_> christopher4125:  The icons inside of the application launcher I was able to change, though that wasn't the effect I was after...let me check that URL one sec
[08:10] <poizen> andry, i tried it. but doesnt help. i changed the cursor too.. didnt change anything
[08:10] <poizen> nova_, I read that.  should i reboot?
[08:11] <nova_> christopher4125: yes I saw that post and I tried step 1 and step 3, however I do not appear to have a ~/.gtkrc-2.0
[08:11] <nova_> christopher4125: step 1 yielded no change
[08:12] <nova_> christopher4125: http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-panel/tasklist is the source of this value, but I'm wondering if this info is up to date.
[08:13] <zeifer> Okay, 9Millionth time back to IRC here. Same problem, sound does not emanate from onboard speakers, still works in the headphone jack. Steps taken from 10.10 and 9.04 yield no results or present missing dependencies. Attempting to go to straight Alsa pulls in pulseaudio like a plague. Suggestions welcome.
[08:13] <christopher4125> Here's my icons at around 127px just playing with panel height: http://s14.postimg.org/f6n3tdzk1/Screenshot_from_2013_10_18_02_10_46.png
[08:14] <christopher4125> is that what your trying to get?
[08:14] <nova_> christopher4125: wtf...hmm and is that faenza icons too?
[08:14] <christopher4125> Yup Faenza
[08:15] <nova_> christopher4125: yes thats what im after somewhat...except vertical
[08:15] <mital> hi can anybody point me to developer channel..  I tried #ubuntu-dev but it does not seem the correct room
[08:15] <mattwj2002> hi I have a dumb question.....
[08:16] <mattwj2002> when does support end for 13.04 now that 13.10 is out?  my coworker just installed 13.04 on his laptop yesterday before the release....should I have him upgrade during a fresh install of ubuntu?
[08:16] <mattwj2002> *doing a fresh install
[08:16] <christopher4125> so... this then: http://s22.postimg.org/bahwbvlg1/Screenshot_from_2013_10_18_02_15_43.png
[08:16] <zeifer> mattwj2002, 13.04 is an 'LTS' release
[08:17] <auronandace> zeifer: no it is not
[08:17] <Ben64> next LTS is 14.04
[08:17] <mattwj2002> yeah that is 12.04
[08:17] <mattwj2002> :)
[08:17] <mital> christopher4125, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[08:17] <zeifer> Since when did *buntu drop making .04's into LTS releases?
[08:17] <nova_> christopher4125: yes exactly...I'm using  "deskbar" as opposed to vertical so text is horizontal
[08:17] <auronandace> zeifer: it has always been every 2 years
[08:18] <Ben64> zeifer: its always been the same, every 2 years is lts
[08:18] <christopher4125> nova_ Lemme see if my icons change size in deskbar mode... They seem to act correctly in verticle...
[08:18] <christopher4125> brb
[08:18] <irrelev4nt> Did anyone here make ubuntu 13.10 boot with secure boot enabled?
[08:18] <nova_> christopher4125: did you get the icons from http://tiheum.deviantart.com/art/Faenza-Icons-173323228 like I did?
[08:19] <DenSaakalte> Guys, I just woke up, and I come to ask again: Upgrading to 13.10 broke direct rendering, any guesses as to what I should check? It's showing "Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.3, 128 bits)" instead of the Intel Graphics card. Any ideas?
[08:19] <zeifer> Well, it's a bummer, then that I went with 13.04 thinking it was an LTS.
[08:19] <mattwj2002> 14.04 isn't out until next April *cries*
[08:20] <zeifer> Still... I want my sound to come from onboard speakers. Wearing headphones on a laptop attached to a 1080p screen across the room isn't enjoyable for the others watching the movies.
[08:20] <nova_> christopher4125: I'm barking up the wrong tree..other icon sets behave the same, including default
[08:20] <christopher4125> nova_ installed through terminal via ppa
[08:21] <k1l> zeifer: see in alsamixer if its muted (big MM)
[08:21] <nova_> christopher4125:  Are you running xubuntu or did you install ubuntu and add xfce?
[08:21] <christopher4125> nova_ in deskbar mode they resize... from 21px upto 128
[08:22] <mattwj2002> I will talk to him....and explain the situation :)
[08:22] <christopher4125> ubuntu 12.04 LTS with XFCE on top
[08:22] <janisozaur> i have two machines: laptop, which i use right now, and desktop. i've an ssh connection from laptop to desktop with X enabled. is it possible to start an application on *desktop* and have it rendered on *desktop*? i don't need to see the window, i just want to start it. would it later be possible to have any control whatsoever over that app (gui) from laptop?
[08:22] <nova_> christopher4125: so strange, mine don't change.  the button continues to grow but the icon is floating centered in the button at 32 px
[08:22] <zeifer> k1l, Yep, been there numerous times. I've uninstalled pulse, uninstalled alsa, reinstalled alsa, ended up with Pulse again even though I didn't want it.
[08:22] <k1l> zeifer: why dont you want pulse? its working how its supposed to be in last times
[08:23] <andry> not for him :P
[08:23] <christopher4125> hmmm... weird
[08:23] <zeifer> k1l, It's not working as intended now. The past is irrelevant, the present is my curse. Lol
[08:23] <zeifer> If it's not pulse it's something else and we can't seem to identify it.
[08:23] <k1l> zeifer: so you want headphone and speakers simultaniously?
[08:24] <irrelev4nt> janisozaur: control later on can be accomplished with a vnc server running on your desktop
[08:24] <nova_> christopher4125: this is fresh install of Xubuntu 13.10, just put it on to try out a few hours ago.  Haven't even had the time to break anything yet.
[08:24] <zeifer> Nope, I want one or the other to work as it does in windows. You plug in a headset, audio stops on speakers. Unplug headset and sound resumes on speakers. Right now.... it's headset only no matter what 24/7 not intended hardware operation.
[08:25] <zetheroo> 13:10 ... wooohoooo! :D
[08:25] <k1l> zeifer: is that a known problem with your laptop model?
[08:25] <christopher4125> nova_ did you see this:http://askubuntu.com/questions/331399/change-xfce-panel-launcher-icon-size
[08:25] <zeifer> Not since Ubuntu 10.10 apparently. Other people with similar symptoms apparently have HDMI ports which I do not have.
[08:25] <k1l> zeifer: some manufactures dont care about acpi standards. so look up if its a known issue with that laptop and linux
[08:26] <nova_> christopher4125: yes but i think he may be suggesting the incorrect value.  I did experiment with that as well.
[08:27] <zeifer> k1l, acpi is power management mainly which is not related to my particular issue. Googling my issue turned up results 2 and 3 years old.
[08:28] <christopher4125> hmmm... weird... I'm fresh out of ideas then... on this machine it just autosizes to keep up with the panel size. the panel is limited to 128 px... but since I normally keep it at 24px, its not an issue for me (netbook user)
[08:28] <mattwj2002> anyone have a thumb drive I can brough?
[08:28] <nova_> christopher4125: I tried to use panel-tasklist-menu=64,64...perhaps there isn't supposed to be an = sign
[08:28] <mattwj2002> I am going to install 13.10
[08:29] <mattwj2002> :)
[08:29] <christopher4125> just a space no "="
[08:29] <nova_> christopher4125: did you see my question about how you installed xcfe?  I wondered if it was xubuntu or if it's ubuntu with xcfe installed
[08:29] <zeifer> If 13.10 would fix this blasted audio bug without breaking the work that went into fixing the video issues (blasted AMD dropping support on me) I might upgrade to it.
[08:29] <christopher4125> ..and might have to reboot for it to take changes.
[08:30] <zeifer> As it is, I just want my sound to work from speakers.
[08:30] <nova_> christopher4125: yeah ill give a reboot and see if that helped
[08:30] <christopher4125> not running xubuntu... just straight ubuntu 12.04 LTS with xfce on top of it
[08:31] <mattwj2002> did whoever find the dev channel?
[08:31] <nova_> christopher4125: ok so that's one way we differ then....do you have anything special set in xsettings/gtk/iconsizes in the settings editor?
[08:32] <nova_> christopher4125: default was empty for me
[08:33] <christopher4125> nova_ on my system icon sizes in empty
[08:33] <nova_> christopher4125: ill reboot...see what happens...ty for the advice is you're not here when i get back..brbiab
[08:33] <mattwj2002> the channel is #ubuntu-devel is not
[08:33] <mattwj2002> *if not
[08:36] <mattwj2002> burn baby burn! :)
[08:38] <mattwj2002> hi and bye all you people :)
[08:39] <zeifer> Speakers. Sound. Must. Work. Now. Please. *goes cross-eyed*
[08:39] <mattwj2002> hi zeifer
[08:39] <mattwj2002> unmuted?
[08:39] <zeifer> Hi mattwj2002
[08:39] <zeifer> Yes, they're unmuted.
[08:39] <mattwj2002> volume up?
[08:39] <mattwj2002> otherwise no idea
[08:39] <nova_> christopher4125: yeah no change after a reboot.  I tried "panel-tasklist-menu 64,64" and "panel-tasklist-menu 64" also
[08:39] <zeifer> Yep, volume maxxed.
[08:40] <andry> zeifer, what audio chip again?
[08:40] <mattwj2002> O.o
[08:40] <DenSaakalte> I'm still having problems with the broken graphic rendering after upgrading to Ubuntu 13.10...  I can't work like this...
[08:40] <mattwj2002> well I have to go for a few
[08:40] <christopher4125> hmmm... here a screenshot of my entire 'gtk' entry: http://s9.postimg.org/mtvo6awpb/Screenshot_from_2013_10_18_02_38_54.png
[08:40] <nova_> christopher4125: perhaps it's something that broke somewhere between 12.04 and 13.10.
[08:40] <zeifer> andry, Realtek ALC270
[08:40] <zeifer> aka HDA ATI SB
[08:40] <andry> didnt you say something like hdmi?
[08:41] <zeifer> I said I *don't* have an HDMI port.
[08:41] <DenSaakalte> I'll be right back
[08:41] <andry> ah okay :)
[08:41] <christopher4125> nova_ ya its about the only thing I can think of... if you installed the icon set today (or at least very recently...) it should be just as current as if its updated via ppa I would imagine.
[08:42] <nova_> christopher4125: mine is much the same except for cursor theme, size, and theme colors
[08:43] <nova_> christopher4125: yeah i just installed it about an hour ago, though I don't think it's the icon set as it's behaving the same with any icons i choose to use
[08:43] <andry> zeifer, did you try pavucontrol?
[08:44] <andry> to see if there are unwanted sound cards and disable them
[08:44] <zeifer> andry, yes I did.
[08:44] <andry> :|
[08:44] <christopher4125> did you install fanzea by manual download/install or via ppa?
[08:44] <zeifer> No other sound cards in here or detected.
[08:44] <KeyboardNotFound> I think that maybe I have injected botnet/virus in my linux system, how is possible to scan my system for viruses ?
[08:44] <nova_> christopher4125: manual install using the "INSTALL" script included in the archive
[08:45] <andry> zeifer, did you install gnome-media
[08:45] <andry> and check via gstreamer-properties
[08:45] <christopher4125> about the only thing I can think of is try the PPA, see if that helps: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/08/faenza-icon-set-gets-a-ppa
[08:45] <christopher4125> After that... I got nothin'... soz
[08:45] <zeifer> andry, that includes gstreamer-properties, right?
[08:45] <andry> yes
[08:46] <nova_> christopher4125: when i tried the ppa earlier it wasn't connecting for some reason..but that reason might have been all the open connectections i had going with utorrent..ill try the PPA again thank you sir
[08:46] <zeifer> andry, then yep, I have it right here.
[08:46] <christopher4125> no problem.. wish I could have solved that one...
[08:46] <christopher4125> if that doens't fix it.. its gotta be a 13.10 thing
[08:47] <nova_> christopher4125: yeah that might be it...or something broken in the xubuntu distro
[08:47] <andry> zeifer, did you add "options snd-hda-intel model=auto" (or modify) to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base?
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> !av | KeyboardNotFound
[08:47] <andry> alsa-base.conf, sorry
[08:47] <christopher4125> one thing I noticed a while ago was Xubuntu xfce was much different from XFCE from Terminal install... but that's a WHILE back... running xfce 4.10 right?
[08:47] <KeyboardNotFound> Dr_Willis, but read the dot 8 : Linux virus infections are theoretically possible.
[08:48] <zeifer> andry, sounds like instructions I haven't seen yet. Got links?
[08:48] <nova_> christopher4125: If I have to ill try adding xcfe on top of ubuntu, I was jsut hoping to avoid having duplicates in my application menu from Unity stuff
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> KeyboardNotFound:   the only viruses ive ever seen are for specific service bugs on specific distros..
[08:48] <andry> Extra Hints to Get Sound Working: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[08:48] <nova_> christopher4125: I believe so, I know its called xfce4 everywhere
[08:48] <christopher4125> Ooh... dr_willis is back... he's pretty good with xfce problems... might want to see if he can help
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> KeyboardNotFound:   its theoretical that elvis and bigfoot are working on their own linux disrto also.
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[08:48] <andry> i have to do this for an old laptop
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> christopher4125:  but im at work. so may have to leave at any time,.
[08:49] <christopher4125> ah.. k :(
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> ive rarelyhad any xfce issues. using xubuntu on 13.10 right now
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> whats the issue anyway?
[08:50] <KeyboardNotFound> Dr_Willis, thank for help:)
[08:50] <andry> or .. zeifer .. just up- or downgrade your kernel :D
[08:50] <nova_> Dr_Willis: the problem I'm having is that the "Window Button" icons on the xfce panel don't want to scale up beyond about 32 px
[08:50] <christopher4125> He's on 13.10 and can't get panel icons above 32px on 1080p display... mine just resize when I adjust the menu bar, his don't (i'm runnin 12.04)
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> nova_:  :) i always remove the bottom panel on xfce.  they dont work well with a netbooks small screen
[08:50] <nova_> Dr_Willis: christoper seems to have no issue, his scale just fine and he showed me a pic to prove it
[08:51] <DenSaakalte> Back now
[08:51] <zeifer> andry, don't joke around with me like that. I'm happy with my video problems being sorted for the moment. Don't break the mood!
[08:51] <DenSaakalte> I just tried to reinstall the intel graphics driver to no avail
[08:51] <andry> hehe sorry :)
[08:51] <nova_> Dr_Willis: actually i removed the bottom panel (panel 1) and put panel 0 on the left of the screen
[08:51] <DenSaakalte> They're still broken for me :(
[08:51] <nova_> Dr_Willis: I'm going for that icons only left side vertical panel look like Unity
[08:51] <andry> which intel graphics, DenSaakalte? and which problems
[08:52] <DenSaakalte> I'll explain once again:
[08:52] <andry> my ears just exploded due to gstreamer audio test
[08:52] <andry> fieeeeep
[08:52] <nova_> Dr_Willis: specifically it's the "window buttons" plugin..the one that shows running programs
[08:53] <DenSaakalte> andry: I updated to Ubuntu 13.10 earlier yesterday, I forgot which Intel Graphics Card I had installed before this, but the fact is that now they show as "Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.3, 128 bits)" and show a "the system is running in low graphics mode" error
[08:54] <nova_> Dr_Willis: my icons scale when the panel is 32px or below, but above that they jsut stay at 32px while the button itself grows around it
[08:54] <DenSaakalte> Furthermore I tried to reinstall the drivers using this guide http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-the-intel-graphics-drivers-on-ubuntu-13-04-12-10-12-04-and-linux-mint-15-14-13-via-repository/, and when I restarted I had a couple of system errors
[08:54] <andry> DenSaakalte, did you try to just install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[08:54] <DenSaakalte> I'll try that right now
[08:54] <DenSaakalte> Hold on
[08:54] <andry> or remove and reinstall if it is installed
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> buttons grow here on 13.10 - the windows list just gets taller
[08:54] <christopher4125> nova_ dunno if this will help... but here's my 'window button' properties: http://s23.postimg.org/tccz99qej/Screenshot_from_2013_10_18_02_53_31.png
[08:55] <DenSaakalte> It says it's already the newest version, andry
[08:55] <andry> wait a sec
[08:55] <andry> easy fix :P
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> window list on a left side panel is sort of funny looking.. the words/text are all sideways ;)
[08:55] <Promethes> hi, why ubuntu boot screen is so ugly?
[08:56] <andry> DenSaakalte, save this: http://pastebin.com/3zyUsAzz as /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/30-intel.conf
[08:56] <Promethes> its unbelievable, years ago i had ubuntu with nice boot screen, now it;s txt mode and occasionally some strange messages
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> !plymouth | Promethes
[08:56] <DenSaakalte> Okay hold on andr
[08:56] <andry> this should override any faulty xorg config for intel
[08:56] <DenSaakalte> andry*
[08:56] <SteveBell> hi all. Curios to install 13.10 on my netbook. But since I had lots of issues with 13.04 and had to revert to 12.10LTS I'm unsure if that is a good idea. How can I check if Ubuntu 13.10 runs on my netbook?
[08:56] <k1l> Promethes: that is not standard
[08:56] <andry> ah wait, which intel chip is it?
[08:56] <andry> sandy bridge or newer?
[08:56] <k1l> Promethes: plymouth is the regular boot screen
[08:56] <DenSaakalte> Hold on
[08:57] <andry> ok
[08:57] <christopher4125> Dr_Willis use 'deskbar' instead of verticle, that rotates the text ;)
[08:57] <DenSaakalte> Processor: Intel® Celeron(R) CPU 847 @ 1.10GHz × 2
[08:57] <Promethes> is is standard on all 10 computers that i have, with various hardware
[08:57] <DenSaakalte> Uhhhh... This isn't it
[08:57] <andry> then use accelmethod uxa
[08:57] <DenSaakalte> Or maybe
[08:57] <DenSaakalte> Okay
[08:57] <andry> sna is for sandy and newer
[08:58] <andry> or just leave the option for accelmethod completly if it fails to load
[08:58] <DenSaakalte> Okay, I forgot how to create a new file in a protected folder
[08:58] <andry> sudo nano bla
[08:58] <andry> :)
[08:58] <DenSaakalte> Right, thanks
[08:58] <k1l> Promethes: nope
[08:58] <andry> or sudo gedit
[08:58] <nova_> Dr_Willis: yes you can remove the text from the "window button" and also do as chistopher said and it rotates any remaining text
[08:59] <k1l> andry: no sudo gerdit. dont use sudo for GUI. use gksudo
[08:59] <nova_> Dr_Willis: or change the text clock to analog and the text orientation isnt an issue
[08:59] <DenSaakalte> gksudo it is
[09:00] <andry> or so
[09:00] <nova_> Dr_Willis: oh i jsut saw the line about how your icons grow on 13.10...interesting...now are you using xubuntu or ubuntu with xfce installed?
[09:00] <matcouto> Hi folks, I'm trying to do a fresh install of ubuntu with win7 and another ntfs partition alongside. However, my current partitions are not shown on the list but only the /dev/sda(entire HD). any idea? there's a printscreen of fdisk -l command and the installation window, -> http://postimg.org/image/vh71ex9pt/
[09:00] <nova_> Dr_Willis: if it's the latter then I'll try installing that way to test
[09:01] <DenSaakalte> Okay andry, I created the file now: it wasn't already present on the folder, is that fine?
[09:01] <christopher4125> trying to get something like this: http://s24.postimg.org/fv6bs1i6t/Screenshot_from_2013_10_18_03_00_31.png
[09:01] <andry> yes, thats fine
[09:01] <DenSaakalte> Okay, I'm going to restart now
[09:01] <andry> this is to override auto-detect
[09:02] <DenSaakalte> I'll be right back
[09:02] <DenSaakalte> Okay
[09:02] <andry> okay :)
[09:02] <andry> remove the accel line if it fails
[09:02] <DenSaakalte> Alright
[09:03] <madpigeon> hellp
[09:03] <madpigeon> hello
[09:03] <vlt> :-D
[09:03] <MegaQuaggan> greetings!
[09:04] <madpigeon> is there any godd cdaudio ripper for ubuntu?
[09:04] <nova_> christopher4125: yes that's what I'm after : D
[09:04] <madpigeon> *good
[09:04] <Promethes> k1l: i have 10 computers with ubuntu installed and none of them are showing plymounth in gfx mode, only ugly text mode
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> matcouto: did you see the setup screen dualboot with win7?
[09:05] <Promethes> k1l: and this works this way since plymouth was introduced
[09:05] <DenSaakalte> Nothing andry :(, it didn't work
[09:05] <DenSaakalte> I didn't get any errors this time, but it still shows Gallium in the graphics driver
[09:05] <christopher4125> ya.. its real weird... Dr_Willis is running xubuntu 13.10, so the setup you two have should be pretty much identical.
[09:05] <DenSaakalte> And takes THAT long to reboot too
[09:06] <matcouto> nops lotuspsychje It directly boots on Win7
[09:06] <nova_> christopher4125: I've been using KDE, and have the panels there setup pretty much the same.  It's what I've gotten used to.  I just discovered xfce and I kinda like it.  I've avoided gnome like environments for a while now.
[09:06] <MegaQuaggan> Madpigeon: If your CD drive works with wine I highly recommend fre:ac
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> matcouto: no i mean in ubuntu 13.04 setup, did you choose install ubuntu along side win7?
[09:06] <k1l> Promethes: it works on several machines like a charm for me. so what do we do now? ranting and cursing or do you want to solve the issue?
[09:07] <nova_> christopher4125: oh did he say it was xubuntu?
[09:07] <andry> hmmm
[09:07] <sevenearths> is there a good place to put google-app-engine in ubuntu? (you know. outside of the user directory so all users can use it)
[09:07] <christopher4125> I'm on a netbook (1024x600) so I'm stuck with things that can run small status bars, so that leave me with XFCE or LXDE, and for me, lxde isn't quite ready for primetime...
[09:07] <christopher4125> ya.. he's running xu13.10
[09:07] <Octopus_> test!
[09:08] <nova_> christopher4125: but it's Xubuntu, not Ubuntu+xfce?
[09:08] <lotuspsychje> !test | Octopus_
[09:08] <DenSaakalte> andry: should I remove the AccelMethod line then? I just did it
[09:08] <andry> thats not the problem, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-video-modesetting
[09:08] <christopher4125> Dr_Willis is running Xubuntu, I am running Ubuntu + XFCE
[09:08] <DenSaakalte> Okay, let's try
[09:08] <andry> if that not works, we can try to add the xorg-edgers
[09:08] <andry> :P
[09:08] <matcouto> lotuspsychje: this option wasn't given. Only Erase disk..., Encrypt the new installation..., use LVM... and Something else. I chose 'Something else'  which goes to that window that uploaded
[09:09] <DenSaakalte> Okay andry, I just tried it and it didn't say anything
[09:09] <nova_> christopher4125: ok that's weird...nothing left to go on now..im out of guesses
[09:09] <DenSaakalte> How do I check if something was changed?
[09:09] <Octopus_> is it a exclusif ubuntu forum or generalist?
[09:09] <andry> ctrl+alt+f1, login, sudo service lightdm restart
[09:09] <k1l> Octopus_: this is the ubuntu technical support channel
[09:09] <andry> faster than reboot
[09:09] <DenSaakalte> Alright, let's see
[09:09] <christopher4125> lemme look up one more thing...
[09:10] <andry> (dont know if ctrl+alt+backspace is bound in ubuntu 13)
[09:10] <lotuspsychje> matcouto: thats weird, you should be able to choose install win7 next to ubuntu, maybe try install from usb stick at boot(not livecd)
[09:10] <Octopus_> des francophones ici?
[09:10] <lotuspsychje> !fr | Octopus_
[09:11] <matcouto> lotuspsychje: I've done that too. didnt work.
[09:11] <Octopus_> merci!
[09:11] <DenSaakalte> Nope, didn't work...
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> matcouto: and your win7 works properly?
[09:11] <DenSaakalte> Time to try the other method, andry
[09:11] <andry> DenSaakalte, can you do this?
[09:11] <andry> http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/xorg-edgers
[09:11] <irrelev4nt> lotuspsychje: it's actually not that weird. My Surface Pro won't prompt me to install beseide Win8 either
[09:11] <DenSaakalte> Okay le's see
[09:11] <matcouto> lotuspsychje: yup, it does.
[09:11] <andry> add the repo, update install
[09:11] <andry> :)
[09:12] <DenSaakalte> I'm on it now
[09:12] <andry> (instead if install just upgrade)
[09:12] <andry> okay
[09:12] <lotuspsychje> irrelev4nt: is it an uefi machine?
[09:12] <matcouto> lotuspsychje: I'll try to run some chdisk on win and give it a shot again. brb
[09:12] <irrelev4nt> lotuspsychje: yes, it is
[09:12] <christopher4125> nova_ I just ran 'xfce4-about' in terminal, I'm running 4.8, which is *not* the latest version....
[09:12] <christopher4125> dunno if that matters.
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> irrelev4nt: ive installed an uefi w8 laptop recently and didnt even had to mess with uefi, worked out of the box for ubuntu
[09:13] <DenSaakalte> Packages are being updated now
[09:13] <andry> okay, after that better reboot
[09:14] <irrelev4nt> lotuspsychje: it works to a certain extent. Secure Boot for example does *not* work. You enable it, you won't be able to boot Ubuntu
[09:14] <SteveBell> FYI: http://askubuntu.com/users/login#create-account does not load for me
[09:14] <fahadash> i
[09:14] <lotuspsychje> irrelev4nt: even on ubuntu clean install on whole hd?
[09:15] <devjustforfun> I have 3 user and each of them have ssh. each user can't access home directories of others. But i have www-data user that can read all home directories and execute php files in them and can CRUD public directory of each user. That means user1 can create php file and by using php script delete the public folders of the other users. So my question is how to prevent it?
[09:16] <irrelev4nt> lotuspsychje: I won't try that as I need my win8. Just need Ubuntu for legacy gaming. But won't matter, because the device complains about a Secure Boot violation at boot
[09:16] <hitsujiTMO> irrelev4nt: lotuspsychje: sucure boot does work, just not with the microsoft key that is present in the uefi when you get the system
[09:16] <devjustforfun> CRUD - create read update delete*
[09:16] <SteveBell> is that login working for others? and is signing up new account on askubuntu working for anybody?
[09:16] <DenSaakalte> Okay andry, I updated the repositories. Which of the packages in xorg-edgers should I install?
[09:16] <andry> just do a apt-get upgrade
[09:16] <irrelev4nt> SteveBell: Just registered with Google on AskUbuntu
[09:16] <DenSaakalte> I just did and nothing (aside from chrome-stable) showed up
[09:17] <SteveBell> irrelev4nt: and can you create a new account?
[09:17] <irrelev4nt> SteveBell: Yes, worked like a charm
[09:17] <DenSaakalte> And install -f doesn't show anything either
[09:17] <SteveBell> irrelev4nt: strange. ok sorry must be on my end then. disabled firewall and adblocker still no luck...
[09:17] <SteveBell> FF24 on os x here.
[09:17] <andry> can you do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[09:17] <irrelev4nt> hitsujiTMO: So what am I missing when I want to get my Surface going with Secure Boot enabled?
[09:17] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: well not sure if secure boot is enabled by default, but the laptop i did installed ubuntu out of the box
[09:17] <DenSaakalte> Okay, let's try that
[09:17] <devjustforfun> i really need help with that to setup my hosting :)
[09:18] <DenSaakalte> Done
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> devjustforfun: you on desktop or server?
[09:18] <SteveBell> irrelev4nt: works fwith safari. very interesting...
[09:18] <DenSaakalte> Now should I restart lightdm or a full reboot?
[09:18] <andry> can you check if  apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental is installed?
[09:18] <DenSaakalte> Okay
[09:18] <andry> and remove it if it is
[09:18] <irrelev4nt> lotuspsychje: Installing Ubuntu works just fine with SB enabled. You reboot and - BAM - error
[09:19] <DenSaakalte> It wasn't installed, now it's installing now
[09:19] <DenSaakalte> -now
[09:19] <DenSaakalte> Done
[09:20] <andry> ok i thought it is installed and would recommend to remove it, but restart lightdm and try
[09:20] <DenSaakalte> Okay
[09:20] <andry> :D
[09:20] <irrelev4nt> SteveBell: FF's cache at time can be a pain ...
[09:20] <DenSaakalte> I'll be right back
[09:20] <andry> ok :)
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[09:20] <lotuspsychje> devjustforfun: the #ubuntu-server guys might wanna help you out maybe?
[09:20] <bussore> hello, i have an ubuntu 13.04 disk. i would like to know if it is safe in live mode. i mean is it ok to do online banking in live mode for example? or to be safe one must install?
 i think i should setup ssh properly
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> !ssh | devjustforfun
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> bussore:  theres 'security' focused live cd disrtos out also. the live cd shouldbe as safe as a instgalled system id imagine.
[09:21] <SteveBell> irrelev4nt: def y! can I subscribe for updates for existing questions on askubuntu?
[09:21] <hitsujiTMO> irrelev4nt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/SecureBoot tells you how to install the canonical key, however, this will prevent you from installing windows 8 on that device in the future (oem uses the secure boot key do determine your licence)
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> bussore:  its just possible theres  not all the secureity updates on the live cd.
[09:21] <devjustforfun> i know what is ssh
[09:21] <Depa> Hi guys :)
[09:22] <DenSaakalte> Nope, didn't work...
[09:22] <DenSaakalte> (and now for some reason the calendar/time disappeared)
[09:22] <Depa> I installed Ubuntu 13.10... How I can completly remove GNOME/Unity??
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> Depa:  what desktop are you planing on using?
[09:23] <andry> DenSaakalte, is it a i915
[09:23] <andry> ?
[09:23] <irrelev4nt> SteveBell: I don't see any obvious option for that ... dunno, maybe it's possible, though
[09:23] <DenSaakalte> Where do I check that?
[09:23] <bussore> so you think i would be taking a big risk?
[09:23] <irrelev4nt> StevenBell: You can subscribe to your own questions though
[09:23] <Depa> Dr_Willis: KDE but I won't to install Kubuntu
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> bussore:  i wouldent think of it as much of a risk at all
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> !purekde | Depa
[09:24] <andry> maybe lspci shows
[09:24] <DenSaakalte> Trying now...
[09:24] <Eit8> I always had the problem with the "an account needs attention" in 13.04 and in 13.10 I've got the pop up asking for gmail password to synch my stuff and it always fails saying the password is wrong (it isn't) any workaround to fix this ?
[09:24] <bussore> even if it's not updated?
[09:24] <andry> or sudo lshw -C video
[09:24] <irrelev4nt> hitsujiTMO: Thanks for the link. Interesting ... as MS will reinstall my Win8 anyway when I send in the device due to WiFi drops I could actually try that ..
[09:24] <DenSaakalte> command not found (on the last one)
[09:25] <andry> you can install it via install lshw
[09:25] <DenSaakalte> Installing now...
[09:26] <zeroXten> any chance of 13.10 working on my 9,1 mac?
[09:26] <irrelev4nt> bussore: What kind of "risk" are you thinking about? ...
[09:26] <bussore> the live distros you mentioned before are for example knoppix? knoppix live is safer than ubuntu live?
[09:26] <bussore> risk i am thinking about is that somebody else gets in my online banking for example
[09:26] <irrelev4nt> bussore: Live systems means that Ubuntu is loaded into your RAM only. You poweroff the device and every trace of what you have been doing is gone
[09:27] <DenSaakalte> andry: http://pastebin.com/vJZHHKyd this is what shows
[09:27] <hitsujiTMO> zeroXten: as in os 9.1?
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> bussore: pc banking is always tricky...if you click on a malicious banner
[09:27] <bussore> but surfing without a fully updated system is not dangerous?
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> !security | bussore
[09:28] <irrelev4nt> bussore: lotuspsychje: in that aspect Windows and Linux are no different ... you just have to be aware and carefull
[09:28] <zeroXten> hitsujiTMO: no as in that particular model/generation or whatever apple calls it
[09:28] <DenSaakalte> I see driver=i915, so to answer your question, yes
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> bussore: a healthy paranoia is reccomended
[09:29] <andry> second..
[09:29] <DenSaakalte> Okay :), thanks for this btw
[09:29] <hitsujiTMO> zeroXten: what are the specs? no idea what a 9,1 mac is
[09:30] <zeroXten> its the one that *should* be somewhere between point 11 and 12 on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[09:31] <bussore> so to conclude if i do the following: run ubuntu 13.04 in live mode, go only to the site of my bank, login, do online banking, and when finished shutdown, SHOULD I BE OK?
[09:31] <zeroXten> i installed it a few weeks ago but wifi was a problem
[09:31] <lotuspsychje> bussore: yes, but always stay alert for what happens online...
[09:31] <hitsujiTMO> zeroXten: yes it should run
[09:31] <zeroXten> hitsujiTMO: but with what issues?
[09:31] <irrelev4nt> bussore: in general, yes, you should be fine. Just be carefull to really go to your bank's site and not some kind of scam
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> bussore: if you login in a fishing page of your bank...things could go wrong
[09:32] <hewhomust> bussore, safer to go into to the physical bank need to be careful not to be shot though
[09:32] <hitsujiTMO> zeroXten: you'd have to ask someone with the same model
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> hewhomust: lol
[09:32] <zeroXten> hitsujiTMO: hence why I'm here ;)
[09:33] <bussore> ok, thank you, just out of curiosity, would you have said it was ok also if i had an ubuntu 10.10 disk ? i mean an old system is always fine if one surfs carefully?
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> !10.10 | bussore
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> bussore: we reccomend you installing a version from topic mate
[09:34] <irrelev4nt> bussore: long story short, you might want to choose a more recent version of Ubuntu rather than 10.10
[09:34] <bussore> that's not my question, my question is would it have been safe if i surfed carefully? (just curiosity)
[09:35] <bussore>  hewhomust: :)
[09:35] <Dr_Willis> bussore:  if you are worried about security.. get a newer release with a newer browser.
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> bussore: when a version is end of life, it means its not safe to continue
[09:36] <Dr_Willis> bussore:  if you are REALLY worried about live-cd surfing.. get one of the security focused live cds out there
[09:36] <bussore> is knoppix live safer than ubuntu live because it is designed as a live distro? (very last question)
[09:36] <Dr_Willis> 10.10 has firefox that is at least 3 years old.
[09:36] <Dr_Willis> is koppix still updated? hav ent heard about it in years.
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> anything thats not 3 yrs old.. would be safer then a 3 yr old disrto
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> of course using common sence when surfing - goes a long way. ;)
[09:38] <bussore> ok thank you very much
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> bussore: you have windows and want to secure browse the web with a livecd?
[09:38] <ur0pl> hi
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: knoppix as knoppix is pretty dead but there are spinoffs
[09:38] <reisio> ur0pl: hi
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> ur0pl: hello, what can we do for you?
[09:38] <reisio> doesn't look dead: http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html
[09:38] <ur0pl> i can't do a control + f5 to refresh with a new cache because it brings me to my 5th virtual window
[09:39] <ur0pl> ioaky
[09:39] <bussore> yes
[09:39] <ur0pl> even when i lowered my workspace windwos to 4, it doesn't do anything now
[09:39] <ur0pl> it is like it is already binded
[09:39] <Dr_Willis> ur0pl:  from a X session   it should be alt-ctrl-f5 to get to a Console.
[09:40] <bussore> ok but i have a better understanding of the situation now, i'm ok, thanks for the help, bye :)
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> bussore: then ubuntu livecd will be able to help you, but install ubuntu would be even better and loose win once and for good :p
[09:40] <bussore> :)
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> ur0pl:  if you mean the  5th 'virtual desktop' ive not notice3d that keybinding. what app does a refresh with ctrl-f5?
[09:41] <DenSaakalte> andry, not sure if you're still there, but I noticed something: in /etc/X11/ I don't have an xorg.conf, but rather a xorg.conf.failsafe
[09:42] <DenSaakalte> Do you think this is part of the problem?
[09:44] <irrelev4nt> Using Wine in 13.10 I have very distorted sound even though desktop sound works great. CLI gives multiple PCM overflow errors. Where do I look to resolve such issue?
[09:44] <andry> back .. :P sorry, work called
[09:44] <andry> the conf palce is /usr/share/X11 now
[09:44] <reisio> irrelev4nt: check alsamixer's pcm level
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> irrelev4nt: ask in #winehq too
[09:44] <andry> hm i am not sure what else you can try
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> irrelev4nt: does if affect all apps?
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> irrelev4nt: have you checked the APpDb?
[09:45] <irrelev4nt> reisio: what do you mean by alsamixer's pcm level?
[09:46] <reisio> irrelev4nt: run 'alsamixer' in a term, check the level for 'PCM'
[09:46] <DenSaakalte> andry: http://pastebin.com/vJZHHKyd
[09:46] <irrelev4nt> ActionParsnip: yes, checked AppDb. No known error of that sort. Like 7 years ago that particular game under some circumstances had no sound at all
[09:46] <DenSaakalte> The contents of the xorg.conf.failsafe
[09:46] <DenSaakalte> I just did a cp xorg.conf.failsafe xorg.conf
[09:47] <irrelev4nt> ActionParsnip: it effects wine in general. even the wine sound test is distorted
[09:47] <andry> the failsafe just loads if the intel drivers fail
[09:47] <andry> or any other
[09:47] <DenSaakalte> Yeah
[09:48] <DenSaakalte> Shouldn't the xorg.conf have the Intel drivers?
[09:48] <andry> it should autoload them
[09:48] <andry> there is no need for an xorg.conf anymore
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> it may not if EDID fails, sometimes its needed
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> andry: not true in all cases
[09:48] <andry> configs go in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d now
[09:48] <DenSaakalte> I see... But it's not doing it
[09:49] <andry> like we did with the 30-intel.conf
[09:49] <DenSaakalte> Yeah
[09:49] <andry> i dont see why it doesnt load :/
[09:49] <DenSaakalte> What could be stopping it from using the 30-intel.conf?
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> andry: my display goes to 1280x1024 at 3000 dpi, meaning tiny tiny window decorators and huge text, I need an xorg.conf file to make the desktop usable
[09:49] <andry> can you post the /var/log/X* to pastebin?
[09:49] <DenSaakalte> Okay hold on
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> DenSaakalte: some screens do need an xorg.conf file.
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> DenSaakalte: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[09:50] <andry> ActionParsnip, we created a intel.conf
[09:50] <DenSaakalte> My problem isn't really with the screen but the graphic card, since it's using Gallium instead of intel
[09:50] <ur0pl> i'm not trying to get to a console. i am trying to do a refresh with a clean cache like i could do in windows, it is control + f5
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> andry: where was it made?
[09:50] <reisio> ur0pl: in what application?
[09:51] <andry> usr share x11 xorg.conf.d .. that is where it belongs
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> DenSaakalte: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[09:52] <blade-runner> hello. Could someone please tell me the command to install XFCE?
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> blade-runner: sudo apt-get install xfce4
[09:52] <blade-runner> ActionParsnip, ty
[09:52] <DenSaakalte> Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> andry: i see
[09:52] <Dark_light> Empathy doesn't show my facebook contacts, it seems it fails to login, on a related note I had a similar issue in gnome but found patches for gnome online accounts since facebook changed some things on their part
[09:52] <DenSaakalte> That, ActionParsnip
[09:53] <fahadash> I have 12.4 LTS on my HP Mini laptop, whenever I chat on skype, it leaves the webcam-light (the one that tells you webcam is on) ON...It leaves it on... Is there anything I can do about this ?
[09:53] <andry> and you upgraded from 04 to 10, right?
[09:54] <andry> i dont know what else to do :/ i think i would do a fresh install .. btw .. i use 13.04 for my intel hd4600, the older x + stable 01.org drivers work much better than the ones in the repo
[09:54] <DenSaakalte> andry: http://pastebin.com/vZG39H8q
[09:55] <DenSaakalte> And yes, I upgraded from 04 to 10
[09:55] <DenSaakalte> Those are the three Xorg files in the /var/log/
[09:55] <Eit8> after 13.10 upgrade evolution can't authenticate my gmail password saying it's incorrect (it isn't )
[09:55] <topper4125> ur0pl: are you trying to clear all your history from terminal? if so... use the command 'reset'
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip: mounting the .img worked yesterday tnx!
[09:58] <irrelev4nt> can anybody recommend an IRC client for ubuntu?
[09:58] <DenSaakalte> xchat
[09:58] <irrelev4nt> thanks
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> irrelev4nt: depending on your needs: xchat, irssi
[09:59] <universal> http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=1f51a4c - what channel no. to set - 1 t0 13 available with automatic mode also and what channel width 20Mhz or 40 with automatic also available for best wifi speed ? also what is WDS and should I enable it or not ?
[09:59] <DenSaakalte> So I guess my only option left is a fresh install?
[09:59] <andry> either something broke X while upgrading ..
[09:59] <andry> or
[09:59] <andry> the new x just dislikes you :D
[09:59] <andry> no .. sorry
[09:59] <andry> dont know
[10:00] <andry> i would reinstall
[10:00] <DenSaakalte> :(
[10:00] <FloodBot1> andry: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:00]  * andry hugs FloodBot1 
[10:00] <DenSaakalte> Haha, well... I guess I'll try that right now
[10:00] <brotherBox> Hello people. I am working with lubuntu 12.04 and want to get my wifi Stick, a Sitecom N150 to work. Apparently the only way to do this is via ndiswrapper, but I don't find packages of the ndiswrapper stuff for lubuntu. Can I just use the packages for ubuntu 12.04?
[10:00] <andry> sorry :/
[10:00] <Dark_light> How can I disable the meta+number combo to launch apps ?
[10:00] <Dark_light> brotherBox: yes
[10:01] <Dark_light> *in Unity
[10:01] <brotherBox> Dark_light, thank you for clarifying that, will try
[10:01] <kaddi> hi, i would like to dualboot win8 and ubuntu.. is there a good guide on how to install them side by side? Everything I've seen so far has me disable secureboot to install
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> brotherBox: i think my sitecom wifi adapter worked out of the box, not sure wich ubuntu version again..
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | kaddi
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | kaddi
[10:02] <kaddi> ty
[10:02] <DenSaakalte> Don't be sorry andry :), you were very helpful
[10:02] <DenSaakalte> One more question: how do I reinstall Ubuntu without a live CD?
[10:02] <DenSaakalte> BEcause this laptop doesn't have one
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | andry
[10:02] <DenSaakalte> (yes, an extremely noob question)
[10:02] <andry> you can use a usb stick to install :)
[10:02] <kaddi> DenSaakalte, with USB :)
[10:02] <Paulus68_1> DenSaakalte: use a usb
[10:03] <brotherBox> lotuspsychje, my former stick did work out of the box, but this one doesnt on lubuntu 12.04
[10:03] <andry> brotherBox, you can try this: http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/sitecom-wlan-stick-installieren/#post-5600242
[10:03] <topper4125> kaddi, I've found some vid tutorials on Youtube to be very helpful with win8 duel boot
[10:03] <DenSaakalte> Alright... I could use my external HDD for that, then
[10:03] <andry> (google translate and stuff :P)
[10:03] <kaddi> the uefi guide looks good to me. I'm not good with youtube videos.. They're too slow for me and I get bored and drift away. Better to have text :)
[10:05] <wilee-nilee> kaddi, here is a thread, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[10:06] <brotherBox> andry, I remember doing something to this effect on Ubuntu 10.04 a while ago and I got it to work. The hardware ID mentioned in the post shows up in my lsusb, not in my lspci
[10:06] <brotherBox> Its indeed 0df6:006b
[10:06] <andry> wohnst du in der nähe vo düsseldorf? dann bekommst du meinen alten wlan stick ;D
[10:07] <Paulus68_1> !de
[10:07] <brotherBox> andry, are you talking about me now?
[10:07]  * topper4125 is still known at topper4125 (tends to stick with what works)
[10:07] <brotherBox> I live in Mönchengladbach, so yes ;)
[10:07] <brotherBox> Kind of.
[10:08] <SteveBell> IRC is unabel to post properly ae ue oe (german letters öäü)?
[10:08] <kaddi> depends on your client, usually
[10:08] <kaddi> and the irc standards specified
[10:08] <kaddi> if you use utf8 and the irc net uses ascii things go bad :p
[10:09] <brotherBox> I live in Moenchengladbach. Unlike Nuremberg and Cologne, the english language doesn't have its own version...yet...
[10:09] <kaddi> you can modify the charset in your client usually
[10:09] <kaddi> ./charset utf8 or something similar
[10:09] <kaddi> for me the umlauts work
[10:09] <brotherBox> För me tüü
[10:09] <Speiros> Hello.  Where can I get information regarding security on Ubuntu?
[10:09] <andry> well, if you want to, you can catch it up in moers, krefeld or duesseldorf (not joking)
[10:10] <topper4125> !security
[10:10] <andry> for free.
[10:10] <reisio> Speiros: ordinary security, or additional?
[10:10] <brotherBox> andry, I have relatives in Krefeld
[10:10] <brotherBox> That would actually be very nice of you...but I'll try to get this one working first ;)
[10:10] <Speiros> reisio ordinary.  I have issues with my version of Ubuntu, I believe.
[10:11] <reisio> Speiros: what issues?
[10:11] <tony_> hi
[10:11] <andry> okay
[10:11] <Speiros> I noticed today when the Ubuntu Software Centre was updating the files to see what was recommended for uploading or changing, that all the security files were "failed".
[10:12] <fahadash> No opinion there about my webcam light staying on ??? It always concerns me that big-brother might be watching
[10:12] <Speiros> Sorry reisio, that was for you.
[10:13] <hitsujiTMO> Speiros: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[10:13] <reisio> Speiros: if they failed, then the authentication system is working
[10:13] <lotuspsychje> fahadash: what happens if you close skype completly?
[10:13] <brotherBox> fahadash, I would try to start up your computer and have no program running - except for Wireshark
[10:13] <brotherBox> And see what goes through your connection.
[10:13] <andry> fahadash, modprobe -r uvcvideo
[10:13] <andry> :P
[10:13] <Speiros> reisio, I see.
[10:13] <Speiros> hitsujiTMO I use 10:4
[10:13] <andry> i read about 13.10 + webcam issues..
[10:14] <hitsujiTMO> 10.04 is not supported, its eol
[10:14] <Speiros> reisio does that also mean that it is failing because there is no need?
[10:14] <DenSaakalte> Well, it's time to do another clean install... Sigh
[10:14] <reisio> Speiros: it probably means the server in question is having a hiccup, or your config is a little out of whack
[10:14] <andry> :( was about to ask if you fixed it
[10:15] <Speiros> hitsujiTMO I uploaded 12:04 on another server, and couldn't use it at the time.  That computer is now in computer heaven...lol
[10:15] <reisio> Speiros: it could mean the server has been compromised, but that almost never happens, and is usually publicized
[10:15] <DenSaakalte> I restarted last time to see if it was fixed by chance
[10:15] <DenSaakalte> But now I'm making a backup
[10:15] <Dark_light> How can I disable the unity keyboard shortcut Meta + 1 to 9 to launch applications? it's driving me nuts
[10:16] <Speiros> reisio I guess I need to just wait until I have a fresh hard drive, and try again, again.lol
[10:16] <brotherBox> Gah and now my usb drives won't work
[10:16] <reisio> I doubt the hard drive is relevant
[10:17] <Speiros> reisio I mean in that I don't want to lose my documentation by uploading onto this one.
[10:17] <silv3r_m00n>  this is the output of lspci -v, http://pastebin.com/ka4egneS  how much graphics memory do i have ?
[10:18] <jboii> hi
[10:18] <reisio> hi jboii
[10:18] <andry> looks like you share 256mb ram with your vga
[10:18] <Speiros> Anyway, thanks reisio and thanks hitsujiTMO for your help.  All the best.
[10:18] <jboii> i have a text file i cannot get clean
[10:18] <silv3r_m00n> andry: and that 1MB is onboard ?
[10:19] <jboii> can someone help me edit it , so text is possible to see correct ?
[10:19] <silv3r_m00n> andry: difference between prefetchable and non-prefetchable ?
[10:19] <andry> i think the 1mb is like a fixed buffer
[10:19] <jboii> its a file with song names copy from an app
[10:19] <andry> not too sure
[10:19] <jboii> i copied text from facebook
[10:20] <reisio> jboii: pastebin
[10:20] <jnhghy> jobii: what do you mean get clean? how did you got that file? check it's permissions with terminal cd to file location and ls-lah ... you'll see the owner ..
[10:21] <twenty-three> hi guys, while on 13.04 i experienced a number of issues while trying to use propietary nvidia drivers, so eventually i gave up on them. i have  just installed 13.10 and i wonder if there is a way to test nvidia driver issues or whether there is a particular place where i could dig information about it
[10:22] <twenty-three> while on 13.04 i tried to install bumblebee but i think i must have messed something up since it locked me into low resolution for all my displays
[10:22] <SunTsu> twenty-three: just create a copy from your current xorg config, modify it to use proprietary nvidia drivers and then start a new X server using that config
[10:23] <topper4125> "
[10:23] <XATRIX> Hi guys i'm using Xubuntu 13.10 and have a problem. I've currently updated to, and now my volume control applet which is in system tray has no connection to pulse audio, as long as i see.... It shows me disabled picture and when i click it. It doesn't present me a volume controls
[10:23] <XATRIX> Pulse-audio seems like to running fine.
[10:25] <habtool> XATRIX: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1208204
[10:25] <twenty-three> suntsu, thanks but i need more detail (i am still learning how to use this OS), would that be as simple as copying the folder that contains xorg config?
[10:27] <SunTsu> twenty-three: it's as simble as copying just that file. Or simply try using Xorg -configure that will try to figure out your setup and create a brand new config file in your current directory
[10:27] <SunTsu> simple even
[10:27] <andry> no one seems to use the new format via xorg.conf.d :D
[10:27] <jboii> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6256329/
[10:27] <DenSaakalte> Apparently not!
[10:27] <jboii> can someone upload the file so i can download it ?
[10:28] <jboii> so i wont have to make an account
[10:28] <brotherBox> Why is it that so many wifi drivers aren't 100% free? :(
[10:28] <fahadash> lotuspsychje: Closing Skype has no effect. Rebooting does turn it off but I dont wanna have to turn it off after every skype chat
[10:28] <twenty-three> SunTsu: thanks a lot i'll give it a go
[10:28] <fahadash> andry: I don't want to disable webcam
[10:28] <fahadash> s/turn it off/reboot
[10:28] <andry> jboii, http://www.bugmenot.com/view/login.launchpad.net
[10:29] <drecute> how does reinstallation of grub2 affect the kernel?
[10:29] <brotherBox> drecute, not at all
[10:29] <brotherBox> grub should find all kernels and won't change existing kernels
[10:29] <drecute> brotherBox:  what about the kernel config in grub?
[10:30] <drecute> would it be overriden?
[10:30] <andry> brotherBox, i am going to buy a WN722N today, the chipset works fine with linux
[10:30] <andry> dont want ralink chipsets anymore ..
[10:30] <brotherBox> Depends if you delete the old one drecute. If you're feeling unsure, just back up the old /boot/grub.cfg
[10:31] <brotherBox> andry, I have not even gotten to try anything. I still try to get a wget dump of that page on my machine - but all my usb drives decide to crap out on me now.
[10:31] <drecute> brotherBox: cool. Thanks
[10:31] <jboii> when i click on download , i cant get it lookin ok
[10:31] <jboii> like it was when i paste it
[10:32] <brotherBox> drecute, actually its /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[10:32] <andry> maybe pastebin broke the format
[10:32] <fahadash> Looks like Canonical is working with secret services to leave people's webcam on, this bug was reported 4 years ago still no progress
[10:32] <jboii> i need it lookin like it looks
[10:32] <jboii> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6256329/
[10:33] <jboii> chance someone can download it and upload ?
[10:33] <andry> i send you a dcc
[10:33] <fahadash> Canonical might be recording videos of people changing clothes thinking nobody's watching them
[10:33] <brotherBox> lol
[10:33] <fahadash> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/363583
[10:34] <wilee-nilee> fahadash, way off topic and complete fud.
[10:34] <fahadash> wilee-nilee: It is supposed to be on-topic in #ubuntu
[10:34] <wilee-nilee> fahadash, read the COC, that is not.
[10:34] <fahadash> Why ubuntu devs are not fixing this bug ? Why they wanna keep the webcam on ?
[10:34] <andry> jboii, www.debinux.de/Download.txt.zip
[10:35] <wilee-nilee> fahadash, The topic is support.
[10:35] <SteveBell> is there an option to forcequit applications on 12.04?
[10:35] <brotherBox> I don't envy you guys during update time
[10:35] <fahadash> Ok, give me support please. I need the webcam turned off when not in use
[10:35] <fahadash> SteveBell: Kill -9
[10:35] <lotuspsychje> !patience | fahadash
[10:36] <fahadash> Ok. I take it as "Shut up and find a better distro"
[10:37] <Sludge321> Hi all. Was wondering if anyone could help me with compiling a library? I believe the issue I am encountering is due to static/dynamic python links - but I really don't have the first clue what to do or how to set flags.
[10:37] <SteveBell> fahadash: could you provide some context for a noob? I assume this is a terminal command?
[10:37] <lotuspsychje> fahadash: no reason to take conclusions like this..
[10:37] <fahadash> SteveBell: first find the pid using pgrep command . pgrep -i programname, then kill -9 pid
[10:37] <lotuspsychje> fahadash: it means, at another time someone might help you
[10:38] <andry> or pidof :)
[10:38] <andry> kill -9 `pidof bla`
[10:39] <fahadash> andry: That could have scary results
[10:39] <lorddaedra> Hello! I tried to update Ubuntu Server 13.04 => 13.10 and got Critical Error on last step. Please, answer in my topic here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2181498
[10:40] <SteveBell> so terminal > kill −9 pid xbmc ?!?
[10:40] <andry> why would it?
[10:40] <SunTsu> er - if there is pgrep shouldn't there be a pkill, too?
[10:40] <lotuspsychje> seems like support becomes a demanding task these days..
[10:40] <hitsujiTMO> fahadash: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[10:40] <SunTsu> SteveBell: all it needs probably is a "pkill applicationname"
[10:41] <fahadash> hitsujiTMO: 12.4 LTS
[10:41] <varlog> What's the most accurate way of determining whether your harddisk is mechanical or an SSD? I tried "cat /sys/block/sda/queue/rotational", however I have reason to believe that it occasionally gives me wrong information
[10:41] <andry> nothing scary about this.
[10:41] <varlog> ²
[10:42] <fahadash> varlog: Put your ears close to it, if you hear the humming noise its mechanical
[10:42] <Jerry168> hello
[10:42] <SteveBell> so how'd I find out the application name (process name) of xbmc media center?
[10:42] <reisio> Jerry168: hi
[10:42] <varlog> fahadash: I would if I could, however I do not have access to the computers
[10:42] <reisio> SteveBell: pgrep -l xbmc
[10:42] <varlog> fahadash: no physical access that i
[10:42] <prc3webs> I want t set up mail just to catch outgoing mails I don't need them to send anywhere.  What should I do to set up my server to catch what is sent by a mail function?
[10:42] <prc3webs> mailutils?
[10:43] <fahadash> varlog: I am sure there will be some file under /proc
[10:43] <SunTsu> prc3webs: what exactly do you mean by "catch"?
[10:43] <andry> grep . /sys/class/block/sd*/queue/rotational should show you a 0 for ssd
[10:43] <prc3webs> Ok so say I am testing php's mail function on my server.  I don't need the server to actually send out any mail to the outside world I just need to be able to read the message
[10:43] <hitsujiTMO> fahadash: you should test a later distro from a live cd and see if the bug still exists. if not then you need a kernel update, if yes then you should add a comment to that bug report to state that it is still an issue
[10:44] <varlog> fahadash: There are many files under /proc :P , but if you mean /proc/partitions , it doesn't tell you whats mechanical and what's an ssd
[10:44] <prc3webs> but I want them to all catch in one spot like usr/bin/mail
[10:44] <swing> Hello everyone, I want to install teamviewer (remote control software), usually it installs without a problem, I downloaded 13.10 v of ubuntu yesterday and reinstalled pc.. now when i want to install teamviewer i get this massage: dependenci is not statisfable lib32asound2
[10:45] <santhosh> hai what is the meaning of virtual ip in linux
[10:45] <SunTsu> prc3webs: use "local sendmail" as your mail transport option and instead of installing sendmail create a script that contains "cat > /dev/null" instead and call that sendmail
[10:45] <fahadash> varlog: cat /proc/scsi/scsi
[10:45] <SunTsu> prc3webs: then configure your php to use that as mail transport "binary" and you're good
[10:45] <prc3webs> thanks Sun
[10:46] <fahadash> varlog: cat /proc/scsi/scsi <-- will give you Model of your hard drive that you can google and find out the specs
[10:46] <SunTsu> santhosh: depends on the context
 update pc and install team viewer
[10:46] <varlog> fahadash: Thanks for the help but I do not have that file and that's kind of a silly solution, if I want the information to write a script
[10:46] <santhosh> how to give virtual ip in my linux pc
[10:46] <fahadash> hitsujiTMO: I am trying to stay on LTS, I will try 13 with livecd, not sure if I can run skype through it
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> santhosh: you can use ifconfig to add virtual interfaces
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> santhosh: known as subinterfaces
[10:47] <santhosh> means bonding
[10:47] <fahadash> varlog: Not sure... My opensuse has this file; You might have to look through the hierarchy under /proc
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> santhosh: virtual IPs are subinterfaces on software based interfaces, giving more than one IP to a single port
[10:48] <brotherBox> andry, I just checked lsusb -v, my wifi stick apparently has a RTL8188S chipset
[10:48] <hitsujiTMO> fahadash: if its that bug then it should exist with other camera apps, you can update the kernel without moving from lts, just build your own
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> santhosh: nothing to do with bonding, or do you want to bond 2 unique interfaces together?
[10:49] <santhosh> no i want nore than one ip in a siingle port for ipbased web server
[10:49] <irrelev4nt> dang ... anybody running wine on 13.10 yet?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> santhosh: then that is nothing to do with bonding
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> santhosh: you can add sub interfaces on a bonded connection but otherwiuse the 2 are separate
[10:49] <santhosh> ok can u tell me clear steps in virtual ip
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> santhosh: http://www.wantlinux.net/2009/04/ubuntu-subinterfaces/
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> santhosh: took me 2 seconds to 'google' that...
[10:50] <santhosh> thanks
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> irrelev4nt: whats happening?
[10:50] <marlo> i just 'upgraded' to saucy and now my machine won't boot - it's like the keyboard gets turned off
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> santhosh: you already know it is called a sub interfcae, so you have some terms you can search for
[10:51] <marlo> can't type in my home-directory encryption password
[10:51] <irrelev4nt> lotuspsychje, I can't use wine at all
[10:51] <santhosh> ok
[10:51] <irrelev4nt> get a lot of error prompts when I start for example winecfg. Programs won't start at all
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> irrelev4nt: installing works? running not?
[10:51] <fahadash> varlog: try  cat /sys/block/sda/device/model . It will give you the model number that you can look up on internet to grab the specs
[10:51] <fahadash> varlog: replace sda with your respective device
[10:52] <irrelev4nt> everything that involves sound makes wine crash
[10:52] <irrelev4nt> otherwise there are a lot of errors
[10:53] <Twenty-three> hi guys, during 13.04 i experienced several issues with nvidia propietary drivers, i just tested them (319) in saucy and they are working tip top, given that the updates on linux-headers (kernel?) was my main issue i wonder if there is a way to prevent such updates in the future
[10:53] <Twenty-three> or whether it is adviceable at all to prevent such updates
[10:54] <brotherBox> andry, what you linked me magically worked! Thanks a lot!
[10:54] <andry> haha was about to type :) cool
[10:54] <fahadash> varlog , you got it ?
[10:54] <brotherBox> I was initially vary because the thing I copypasted had nothing to do with my chipset, but as long as it works...eh
which version wine u used and which os u used
[10:55] <andry> yes wifi is strange in linux sometimes
[10:55] <marlo> what do i do if i can't get saucy to boot - my machine is like locked-up, dead keyboard and all, like the usb port gets shut off or something
[10:55] <andry> better always "trial and error" :D
[10:55] <irrelev4nt> santhosh, ubuntu 13.10 with apt-get install wine after addingthe ppa
[10:56] <KaiKaiKatsu>  
[10:56] <irrelev4nt> saw a lot of wine1.6 stuff when removing it just now
[10:56] <swagilicious> Thanks andry. A good day to everyone
wine 1.4 is stable version try on that one
[10:57] <DenSaakalte> Hey guys, quick question: Is there an Intel 64bit version of Ubuntu 13.10 yet?
[10:57] <irrelev4nt> santhosh, just installed the stable ... still some errors ...
[10:57] <reisio> DenSaakalte: almost certainly...
[10:58] <Twenty-three> densaakalte, yeah, i have it
[10:58] <DenSaakalte> Alright cool, thanks
[10:58] <DenSaakalte> I wasn't sure
[10:58] <santhosh> what type of errors u get
[10:58] <reisio> DenSaakalte: http://mirror.edatel.net.co/ubuntu-releases/13.10/
[10:58] <DenSaakalte> Awesome, thank you
[10:59] <QuantumRenegade> hey guys
[10:59] <irrelev4nt> santhosh, here is the CLI output while starting up winecfg http://pastebin.com/VzxUZbGw
[10:59] <DenSaakalte> I see it there
[10:59] <QuantumRenegade> is it possible for me to switch between window managers ? ie ... ctrl + alt + shift ways ?
[10:59] <irrelev4nt> does anybody know what to do about "ALSA lib pcm.c:7843:(snd_pcm_recover) underrun occurred
[10:59] <irrelev4nt> "error?
[10:59] <reisio> QuantumRenegade: ctrl+alt+shift?
[11:00] <QuantumRenegade> yeah
[11:00] <Twenty-three> hi guys, during 13.04 i experienced several issues with nvidia propietary drivers, i just tested them (319) in saucy and they are working tip top, given that the updates on linux-headers (kernel?) was my main issue i wonder if there is a way to prevent such updates in the future
[11:00] <Twenty-three> or whether it is adviceable at all to prevent such updates
[11:00] <QuantumRenegade> a custom hack... i am new to ubuntu and it seems like a schlep to change window managers after install
[11:00] <brotherBox> If you don't want kernel updates Twenty-three remove the linux-generic package
it is 64 bit or 32 bit
[11:01] <irrelev4nt> santhosh, 64 bit
[11:01] <Twenty-three> brotherbox, how would i do that? also, would preventing the updates bring any issues?
[11:01] <reisio> QuantumRenegade: don't know what you're asking
[11:01] <santhosh> it is getting on 32 bit error  "p11-kit: couldn't load module: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkcs11/p11-kit-trust.so: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkcs11/p11-kit-trust.so: Kann die Shared-Object-Datei nicht öffnen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden wine: configuration in '/home/robert/.wine' has been updated."just try on 32 bit
[11:02] <QuantumRenegade> how big of a mission is it when you change windows managers after install ? i am on unity currently... and would like to try KDE ?
[11:02] <hitsujiTMO> Twenty-three: do not remove that package!
[11:02] <SteveBell> I'm on 12.04 on a netbook. how would I proceed if I want to update to 13.10?
[11:02] <SteveBell> do I have to go via 12.10 which I get offered or is there a direct path?
[11:03] <Twenty-three> stevebell, i hear a fresh install tends to work better than upgrading
[11:03] <irrelev4nt> santhosh, what do you mean by trying a 32bit version?
[11:03] <reisio> Twenty-three: :p
[11:03] <brotherBox> hitsujiTMO, in my opinion, removing the meta package linux-generic is a good idea since it won't search for new kernels when upgrading
[11:03] <hitsujiTMO> Twenty-three: you can put the package on hold with: sudo apt-mark hold package_name
[11:03] <brotherBox> That doesn't delete the actual kernels
[11:03] <SteveBell> Twenty-three: sure, but I hear a fresh install would remove all my media center configuration and samba setup
[11:03] <brotherBox> hitsujiTMO's solution is better. Please forget what I said, Twenty-three
[11:03] <santhosh> u<irrelev4nt>ubuntu 32 bit os
[11:03] <fahadash> SteveBell: I wouldn't trust anything other than LTS
[11:03] <idodeisuke> is there a way to determine recently uninstalled packages?
[11:04] <irrelev4nt> santhosh, I can't. I am on a Surface Pro which is a UEFI system - I therefore have to use 64bit
[11:04] <reisio> SteveBell: there's no point using a distro you can't upgrade without reinstallation
[11:04] <SteveBell> fahadash: yes, that was my experience with 13.04 :P
[11:04] <Twenty-three> hitsujitmo, that's good news, i'll try that next time i boot 13.10, thanks a lot
[11:04] <brotherBox> reisio, thats why I switched from Windows ;)
[11:04] <fahadash> SteveBell: Wait until next LTS release comes out, I guess its April 2014
[11:04] <brotherBox> Bye people
[11:05] <reisio> waiting is silly
[11:05] <SteveBell> fahadash: yes, maybe the safest and most trouble free route. reisio you think?
[11:05] <hitsujiTMO> idodeisuke: in you log files in /var/log/apt
[11:05] <reisio> SteveBell: waste of time
ok but it is getting 64 bit error try on ubutnu 12.10 it is working fine
[11:05] <reisio> SteveBell: there's no point using a distro you can't upgrade without reinstallation
[11:05] <fahadash> I wouldn't install something that is still in research and has its reliability questionable
[11:06] <andreiiar> Can I make the choose language and the menu after ( boot live, install, check mem, boot hardisk ) dissapear for a usb live disk? I am choosing english all the time anyway and boot as live disk, I dont want it to ask me that anymore.
[11:06] <reisio> the only sane thing to do would be switch distro
[11:06] <fahadash> reisio: Do you have a recommendation ?
[11:06] <irrelev4nt> santhosh, will do tomorrow. Thanks for your assistance
[11:06] <idodeisuke> hitsujiTMO, thx!
[11:06] <santhosh> ok
[11:07] <reisio> fahadash: Debian would be the obvious choice, but most people would probably instantly complain about the latest FOO not being available
[11:07] <Rena> I keep seeing messages about resetting USB device #3, but how do I find out which device that is?
[11:07] <fahadash> Thanks reisio
[11:08] <fahadash> reisio: Would Debian work on laptops ?
[11:08] <andry> Rena, what does lsb in terminal say?
[11:08] <reisio> fahadash: plenty of other choices, do a little research
[11:08] <reisio> fahadash: yes, Ubuntu is based on Debian
[11:08] <andry> it does fahadash (asks at install after laptop-detecting)
[11:08] <Rena> andry: No command 'lsb' found
[11:08] <andry> lsusb
[11:09] <Rena> it lists a number of devices
 lsb_release -a "it is a command for knowing the version of ubuntu"
[11:09] <Rena> thanks andry
[11:10] <andry> you see the device ids there :)
[11:10] <Rena> I don't know why an SD card reader keeps resetting though
[11:10] <Rena> I guess I'll find out next time I use it ;p
[11:11] <fahadash> Rena: Might not be plugged in properly
[11:13] <fahadash> If a computer wont get powered on, first thing I would check is if power-cable is plugged in properly and the wall outlet is emitting electricity ; then I would go on advanced troubleshooting steps
[11:14] <reisio> wrong
[11:14] <reisio> first you smash the keyboard
[11:14] <fahadash> reisio: Can we get skype on Debian ?
[11:14] <Rena> "are you sure it's plugged in?"
[11:14] <reisio> fahadash: on any distro
[11:14] <reisio> fahadash: https://wiki.debian.org/skype
[11:14] <fahadash> Cool
[11:14] <reisio> fahadash: all distros support the same software (though some make it easier/harder)
[11:15] <marlo> just installed 13.10... upon boot all usb ports are shut off, power is cut... can't type anything
[11:15] <fahadash> reisio: Is there anything that ubuntu can do and debian cant ?
[11:15] <reisio> fahadash: there's nothing any distro can do that another can't
[11:15] <ctrl_> hello.  enabled the recommended Nvidia driver (319) and then could not boot into Ubuntu after. Should I try the 319 updates or would the same issue probably happen?
[11:15] <andry> debian has pretty old but stable packages ..
[11:15] <andry> better use debian jessie (testing) for desktop use
[11:16] <fahadash> ctrl_: You gotta watch the youtube video of Linus Torvalds dropping f-bomb on nVidia
 did u update  the pc before update just restarting pc
[11:16] <ctrl_> huh?
[11:16] <irrelev4nt> is there any way of obtaining an ubuntu daily build iso from a week ago?
[11:16] <fahadash> ctrl_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVpOyKCNZYw
[11:17] <andry> i think the daily builds just last for 2 days irrelev4nt
[11:17] <ctrl_> but what do i do?
[11:17] <marlo> santhosh, not sure what you're asking, i was on 13.04 and i 'upgraded' to 13.10... now when it boots, and asks for my decrypt passphrase, the keyboard is dead
[11:17] <marlo> santhosh, i have a back-lit keyboard, all the lights die
[11:18] <irrelev4nt> andry, thanks. basically means I am screwed now -.-
[11:18] <ctrl_> Is there a reason the recommended driver is breaking boot?
[11:18] <reisio> irrelev4nt: if they're available from multiple mirrors, you can probably find one that is lagging behind
 just look in to bios the keyboard is enabled or diabled
[11:18] <reisio> irrelev4nt: which day do you want?
[11:18] <andry> good idea reisio  :)
[11:19] <irrelev4nt> reisio, can you point me to a mirror like that? anything like a week ago would be fine
[11:19] <reisio> ew, they don't put a timestamp in the filename? :/
[11:19] <marlo> santhosh, it must be enabled, i certainly haven't changed anything, and i'm running it now (on an older install of ubuntu)
[11:19] <irrelev4nt> reisio you can check the upload date
[11:19] <reisio> yeah, that's more tedious
[11:19] <andry> they dont, looked that up too :/ just the foldernames
[11:20] <reisio> irrelev4nt: try http://web.archive.org/web/20131012090407/http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[11:20] <reisio> that's last saturday, theoretically
[11:21] <alexwhitman> Anyone else's menu bar slow to open menus?
[11:21] <tarzeau> ubuntu unity? 1310?
[11:21] <alexwhitman> yep
[11:21] <irrelev4nt> reisio, you might as well have saved my weekend :D
[11:21] <alexwhitman> unity, 13.10, intel sandybridge grapics
[11:21] <santhosh>  <alexwhitman> ctrl + esc in ubuntu
[11:21] <alexwhitman> *graphics
[11:22] <andry> reisio, this links to current builds
[11:22] <tarzeau> don't know, we're avoiding unity and use mate instead (or wmaker, i3, fvwm, amiwm...)
[11:22] <andry> ie http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/saucy-desktop-i386.iso
[11:22] <andreiiar> Can I make the choose language and the menu after ( boot live, install, check mem, boot hardisk ) dissapear for a usb live disk? I am choosing english all the time anyway and boot as live disk, I dont want it to ask me that anymore.
[11:22] <tarzeau> santhosh: even that is slow sometimes
[11:22] <reisio> andry: nope
[11:22] <hitsujiTMO> alexwhitman: what menu exactly is slow? the search menu?
[11:22] <alexwhitman> santhosh, ctrl + esc doesn't appear to do anything
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> tarzeau: have you reported a bug?
[11:22] <irrelev4nt> not really. if you compare the file sizes than you'll see a difference
[11:22] <andry> reisio, click on an iso or mouse-over
[11:22] <andry> you see it links to current
[11:22] <alexwhitman> hitsujiTMO, no, the File/View etc menus or the system menu by the clock
[11:22] <tarzeau> ActionParsnip: not that one, but many others.. why?
[11:23] <reisio> andry: nope
[11:23] <santhosh>  <alexwhitman>it is ubuntu or any thing
[11:23] <andry> i just pasted the link -.-
[11:23] <reisio> andry: then you're on a different page
[11:23] <andry> rightklick > copy link > paste anywhere
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> tarzeau: if you are on Saucy I suggest you report a bug
[11:23] <reisio> andry: I already have
[11:23] <andry> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/*
[11:24] <tarzeau> ActionParsnip: we're using a setup with nis/nfs/ldap users and home directories
[11:24] <tarzeau> ActionParsnip: i'm not sure ubuntu or canonical cares about such setups
[11:24] <santhosh>  <alexwhitman>it is ubuntu or any thing
[11:24] <m3kk> Hi! I have got an dualcore E450 1.65Ghz laptop with 4gb ram and radeon 6320. Would this be good enough to run ubuntu satisfying? Should i try lighter distros? I know about hardware requirements but that is not always reality
[11:24] <alexwhitman> santhosh, it's ubuntu
[11:24] <reisio> m3kk: should be fine
[11:24] <m3kk> reisio, with unity 2d or fullblown unity?
[11:25] <andry> the full link is: http://web.archive.org/web/20131012090407/http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/saucy-desktop-i386.iso < but whatever .. gone now
[11:25] <santhosh>  <alexwhitman> just install lxde desktop and type ctrl+ esc it is an light weight
[11:25] <cfhowlett> m3kk, install ubuntu AND lxde and xfce4.  that way you can test the other environments.  If you prefer the alternate, download and install
[11:26] <alexwhitman> santhosh, yea that's not a solution.
[11:26] <alexwhitman> It worked fine in 13.04
[11:26] <BrianH> Morning!  Has anyone ran into problems with the server installer not being able to get past the language selection?  Everything locks up at the first screen.
[11:26] <hitsujiTMO> m3kk unity 2d does not exist anymore ... should be fine , may need to disable background blur in search menu
[11:26] <reisio> m3kk: you can always change your desktop environment afterwards if you want something lighter/else
[11:26] <reisio> m3kk: "fullblown" should be fine
[11:26] <m3kk> cfhowlett, its recommended to download and install ie Xubuntu instead of installing xfce or xubuntu-desktop if preferd?
[11:26] <m3kk> Thanks for help
[11:26] <santhosh>  <alexwhitman> get me a screen shot
[11:27] <tarzeau> hitsujiTMO: can it be disabled systemwide for all users?
[11:27] <reisio> andry: it's not gone, it's right there
 just truy lxde it is very comfort
[11:27] <hitsujiTMO> tarzeau: i'm unsure on that
[11:27] <irrelev4nt> andry: now I have got 3 different images. One is the final release for 13.10 ~920MB, one is the last official nightly build with ~890MB and one was linked bei reisio with 874MB ...
[11:27] <m3kk> santhosh, i will! tring xfce right now
[11:28] <irrelev4nt> might as well try them all :D
[11:28] <m3kk> santhosh, do you know if lxde have same issues with screentrearing?
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> m3kk: both ways are fine. installing xfce4 will give the minimum needed for an XFCE session on your system
[11:29] <reisio> irrelev4nt: he'll figure it out :p
[11:29] <m3kk> ActionParsnip, great thanks. i accidentaly installed xubuntu-desktop on my mint cinnamon installation.. went down pretty ugly
 no it is working fine
[11:30] <m3kk> santhosh, thanks installing now
[11:30] <santhosh> ok
[11:30] <irrelev4nt> reisio: I despise developers breaking stuff with the final release ... worked like a charm in the nightly build I was using so far :/
[11:30] <reisio> irrelev4nt: that could be annoying
[11:30] <reisio> they should really timestamp them
[11:31] <irrelev4nt> they used to
[11:31] <reisio> weird
[11:31] <mzaza> How to upgrade from LTS to 13.10?
[11:31] <andreiiar>  Can I make the choose language and the menu after ( boot live, install, check mem, boot hardisk ) dissapear for a usb live disk? I am choosing english all the time anyway and boot as live disk, I dont want it to ask me that anymore.
[11:31] <marlo> santhosh, this is exactly my problem; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1066376
[11:32] <marlo> not sure what to do about it though
[11:32] <marlo> i'm pretty much locked out
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> mzaza: you will need to upgrade to 12.10 then to 13.04 then to 13.10
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> mzaza: or you can do a clean install
 choose boot live
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> mzaza: considering the release is supported so shortly, why not wait til April next year and upgrade LTS to 14.04 which is also LTS
[11:33] <bl4ckdu5t> When I do a apt-get install, where does the .deb file downloaded gets stored before unpacking ?
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> bl4ckdu5t: /var/cache/apt/archives
[11:34] <andreiiar> santhosh: I am. But I want it to do that by default and not ask me any time I boot the usb.
[11:34] <peppegiu> ciao
[11:34] <peppegiu> list
[11:36] <bl4ckdu5t> Thanks ActionParsnip
[11:36] <Moccodo> Hello, I need some help - unity doesn't work for me. Some time ago I installed Ubuntu 13.04 on my PC and wanted to switch to Kubuntu, so I decided to install kubuntu-desktop etc. However, I didn't disable auto-login, so I was very confused that I always came back to Ubuntu and not Kubuntu! To fix this, I deleted Ubuntu-desktop and some other packages. After reboot, I saw the Unity Desktop without the sidebar. To fix this I switched with ctrl-alt-f1
[11:36] <Moccodo> to a terminal and googled some time. Then I found out that I need a login manager to switch the DE -.-' So I enabled gdm and used Kubuntu since then. In the meantime I also tried LDE. Now I just upgraded to 13.10 and wanted to see Unity back, so my question is - what packages do I have to install to get the sidebars back? The bar on top is also missing, but I can access the settings menu via "change desktop background".
[11:37] <threesome> how do i reset my keyboard that i modified using setxkbmap?
[11:37] <tarzeau> threesome: what had you have before?
[11:37] <threesome> i did setxkbmap -option caps:backspace
[11:37] <threesome> setxkbmap -option shift:both_capslock
[11:37] <threesome> xmodmap -e "clear Lock"
[11:38] <threesome> essentially changing caps lock key to be backspace
[11:38] <threesome> but for some reason caps lock got toggled somehow and now all my text is capital letter unless i hold down the shift key :)
 direct install differenr dersktop versions
[11:38] <tarzeau> threesome: good question, read the man page? sorry dunno, i only use it to switch between ch and us keyboard layouts
[11:39] <reisio> threesome: log out & in should suffice
 u find a new keyboard
[11:39] <reisio> hahah
[11:41] <rogetfan> ss
[11:41] <Moccodo> santhosh: Ok, how? With Ubuntu live?
i think live it is not possible just try agin reinstall
[11:43] <rogetfan> 这里有没有中国人
[11:43] <Moccodo> santhosh: Really, it took hours to download all the packages etc D:
[11:43] <reisio> heh
[11:44] <santhosh> a<Moccodo> after updateing just truy it lxde it is working
[11:45] <marlo> I can't boot how do i get around this; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1066376
[11:47] <Hundred> hi friends
[11:47] <reisio> hi friend
[11:47] <Moccodo> santosh: I don't understand - I want to get Unity working, the rest is okay
[11:47] <santhosh> hai
[11:47] <reisio> ohai
[11:47] <Hundred> what is the best app available for tracing filesystem access?
[11:48] <santhosh> hahahah
[11:49] <Kartagis> Hundred: "best" entirely depends on what you need exactly
[11:49] <santhosh> which version is stable in lubuntu
[11:49] <Hundred> Kartagis i'd like to know what app is accessing what files on the filesystem
[11:49] <santhosh> and which is light weight desktop version in ubuntu
[11:50] <Hundred> santhosh try Lubuntu
[11:50] <Hundred> 13.10 just released yesterday
[11:50] <Hundred> but its only 9 months support heh
[11:50] <dsalfran> hello all, I'm having some trouble with the wifi, I have a Ralink and I'm using the compiled driver rt2860 instead of the default rt2800pci, the wifi works fine, but I'm getting non-stop these two lines on the syslog:
[11:50] <dsalfran> DRS: unkown mode,default use 11N 1S AP
[11:50] <dsalfran> DRS: unkown mode (SupRateLen=6, ExtRateLen=0, MCSSet[0]=0xfc, MCSSet[1]=0xff)
 in lubuntu or ubuntu
 in 13.1o in lubuntu
[11:52] <Hundred> santhosh lubuntu is an officially supported ubuntu release http://www.lubuntu.net/
what is support for 9 months varienty period
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> Hundred: you can use tripwire to watch for changes in a file
[11:53] <m3kk> Just installed lxde but now i gott wallpwper with an X as mouse and nothing else, how do i get back to login acreen to change session?
[11:53] <m3kk> Santosh ie
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> m3kk: press CTRL+ALT+T and run:    killall -u $USER
[11:54] <Hundred> but they dont have a long term support version, if you want LTS maybe try out LXLE http://lxle.net/ or Trisquel Mini http://trisquel.info/en/wiki/trisquel-mini , both are based on Ubuntu LTS
[11:54] <m3kk> Ctrl+alt+T does nothing Action
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> Hundred: yes but they are not supported here
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> m3kk: or CTRL+ALT+F1
[11:54] <jhutchins> ActionParsnip: Confirm Ctrl-Alt-t does nothing.
[11:55] <santhosh>  <m3kk> in desktop lxde icon is there no x wil appers
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> jhutchins: its a fairly universal shortcut to bring up a terminal
[11:55] <marlo> does anyone have any idea how to get around this, i literally can't boot; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1164198
[11:55] <m3kk> Santosh no
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> marlo: what is the non-literal sense of can't boot?
[11:56] <santhosh>  <m3kk>iam working on lxde desktop
[11:56] <m3kk> Action: now what? I'm loginscreen in terminal
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> m3kk: killall -u $USER
[11:56] <m3kk> action: done but still in terminal
[11:56] <hitsujiTMO> marlo: is getting to grub?
[11:56] <m3kk> Login:
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> m3kk: press CTRL+ALT+F7
[11:56] <marlo> ActionParsnip, i cannot enter my encrypted partition password - therefore, i a stuck at, power-on... it is getting to grub
[11:56] <m3kk> Santosh, what do you mean
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> marlo: fine, but what is the non-lieral definition of can't boot?
[11:57] <santhosh>  <m3kk> ctrl+alt+f7
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> marlo: why did you add 'literally'?
[11:57] <m3kk> Action: back to wallpaper with X
[11:57] <marlo> after selecting from grub my boot image (i'm on an older 13.04 now) then i can't enter my password
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> marlo: why did you add 'literally'?
[11:57] <santhosh>  <m3kk>it is getting blue clolor desktop with lxde desktop icons
[11:58] <mantas> hello, how to convert from vfsv0 to vfsv1 quota format?
[11:58] <m3kk> Santosh something is clearly broken
[11:58] <marlo> hitsujiTMO, after selecting from grub, i'm prompted for my encrypted partition password, but the keyboard is dead, i'm stuck there
[11:59] <hitsujiTMO> marlo: this may sound stupid but do you have another keyboard to attach and try?
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> mantas: http://serverfault.com/questions/348015/setup-user-group-quotas-4tib-on-ubuntu
[11:59] <Hundred> ActionParsnip is tripwire like strace?
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> marlo: i suggest you don't add 'literally' to stuff, you clearly have no idea of its usage
[11:59] <marlo> hitsujiTMO, it doesn't sound stupid, and some (blogs) have suggested it, and i have tried it, different keyboard, but nothing responds
[12:00] <m3kk> Action: i was running the command in "login" so my bad. It worked now thanks
[12:00] <vooze> http://imgur.com/lhFGVzA --> Hey guys, I have a problem when I try to mount my Android (SGS 4 with Google Play edition) to ubuntu 13.10. It just opens a lot of windows like crazy with all kinds of errors.. Can anyone see if they can mount android devices via USB just fine? I'm just curious if its my hardware or whats wrong
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> Hundred: strace seems to monitor system calls from an application rather than monitor particular files
[12:01] <rogetfan> 这里有中国人吗
[12:01] <hitsujiTMO> marlo, is you caplock light or num lock light responding?
[12:01] <marlo> hitsujiTMO, nope.  and, i have a back-lit keyboard and all the lights shut off
[12:03] <nickoe> When one installs the nvidia-319 driver and have a 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)
[12:03] <nickoe> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK104M [GeForce GTX 780M] (rev a1)  graphics and boots to a balck screen witha cursor. What to do then?
[12:03] <marlo> hitsujiTMO, did you see the bug report link, this seems to be an old issue, but i just don't know how to get around it at this point; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1164198
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> nickoe: add the boot oprion:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[12:08] <nickoe> ActionParsnip: in what file exacty should I add that?
[12:08] <hemaolle> Can someone help me? I run out of harddisc space in middle of an installation and removed the texlive folder from /usr/share. Now I can't reinstall it with apt-get anymore.
[12:08] <nickoe> ActionParsnip: /etc/default/grub ?
[12:09] <malinus> the fact that xorg is eating 20% of cpu all the time, is due to unity, right?
[12:09] <mzaza> ActionParsnip: Ya, I will wait then :)
[12:09] <mzaza> ActionParsnip: Thanks :)
[12:09] <linuxnoobish> Hi, im facing an issue with when i upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10 having black screen on my terminal and all around of the windows i open
[12:10] <nickoe> ActionParsnip: ohh weell, he says it works now, after he rebooted again
[12:10] <hitsujiTMO> marlo: there may be a possible solution to your problem here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1238194
[12:10] <nerder> hello
[12:10] <SeoZ> hi all
[12:11] <nerder> how can i check if my video card is broken or not?
[12:11] <SeoZ> why apt-get install build-essential?
[12:11] <SeoZ> in Ubuntu 13.10?
[12:11] <marlo> hitsujiTMO, i see it, i'll give it a try
[12:11] <loop0> hi everyone, I did upgrade my ubuntu from 13.04 to 13.10 and now my ssh-keys are not unlocked at login, does someone knows how can I reset this settings so first time I use the keys ubuntu will ask me if I want to keep it unlocked?
[12:11] <marlo> thanks
[12:11] <linuxnoobish> anyone could help me with that issue
[12:12] <jhutchins> nerder: Does your monitor light up?
[12:12] <SeoZ> I got "The following packages have unmet dependencies"
[12:12] <SeoZ> just installed ubuntu 13.10.
[12:12] <nerder> jhutchins, yes, but the problem is that sometimes while i'm watching streaming video the pc turn off
[12:13] <nerder> jhutchins, could be a driver problem? I have Nvida G100
[12:13] <jhutchins> nerder: No, that's a problem with the power manager/screen saver.
[12:14] <jhutchins> nerder: The video player should have a setting that disables it, or you may have to change the settings for the desktop.
[12:14] <nerder> jhutchins, i'm not talking about just the monitor, but the entire machine
[12:14] <nickoe> ActionParsnip: well, lspci -k says it is the nvidia driver he has in use, and he still gets the black screen with a cursor when he logs in. Should he recreate the xorg.conf or somehting? I.e. delete it?
[12:16] <jhutchins> nerder: You might want to set up a system monitor to watch the temperature.  Sometimes streaming video will cause a system to overheat.
[12:16] <nerder> i'm pretty sure that temperature is ok
[12:21] <barthem> does anybody know if you can safely mount an ntfs file system on ubuntu? i know it can read it without problems but im not sure about the writing
[12:21] <cfhowlett> barthem, yep.  do it all the time.
[12:22] <barthem> okay, thanks
[12:28] <juken> Hi all, is there a document for installing 13.10 with whole disk encryption? I usually use the alternative iso, but I don't happen to see one.
[12:29] <jpds> juken: The normal desktop CD has LUKS support.
[12:30] <juken> jpds: perhaps I missed it during the install in my VM. Is there anything special I need to do?
[12:31] <jpds> juken: Should be in the normal partitioning menu as an option.
[12:31] <juken> jpds: ah, I think VMWare Player did more of an "automated" install. I should have better luck when installing on a physical machine, thanks for the help.
[12:37] <OmegaVII> hi all, is there anyone using 12.04?
[12:38] <cfhowlett> OmegaVII, xubuntu 12.04
[12:39] <OmegaVII> cfhowlett, do you have any zombie from lightdm?
[12:40] <cfhowlett> OmegaVII, never noticed any such thing ...
[12:40] <coraxx> Is anybody up for a "routing question" ?
[12:40] <Ozch> I see that I got boost 1.46.0 installed by default in /usr/lib is it ok if I remove it and get 1.54.0 in there? Will I break any dependencies?
[12:40] <cfhowlett> OmegaVII, and doesn't show up on ps -x
[12:41] <OmegaVII> cfhowlett, so you got no "defunt" process in ubuntu? what is your lightdm version?
[12:41] <OmegaVII> cfhowlett, I use "ps -ef | grep defunt"
[12:42] <cfhowlett> 1.2.3-Ooubuntu2.3 installed
[12:42] <nishanth> can i have some help with creating a partition ?
[12:42] <OmegaVII> cfhowlett, I use "ps -ef | grep defunct"
[12:42] <cfhowlett> OmegaVII, no defunct processes :)
[12:42] <cfhowlett> !partition|mishanth
[12:42] <hitsujiTMO> !ask | coraxx
[12:43] <OmegaVII> chfhowlett, really thanks. I am using the same version but there is a defunct process...
[12:43] <cfhowlett> OmegaVII, is it persistent after reboot?
[12:45] <barthem> might be a stuppid question, but why everything i type grayed out?
[12:45] <liquidmetal> Is there an offtopic channel here?
[12:45] <nishanth> cfhowlett i need to resize the disk space used by ubuntu, so that i can free some space and install win7 there
[12:45] <OmegaVII> cfhowlett, yes, it will be created after reboot
[12:46] <cfhowlett> nishanth, boot your ubuntu disk/usb and use gparted to resize partitions
[12:46] <cfhowlett> OmegaVII, over my rating.   sorry.
[12:47] <cfhowlett> OmegaVII, ask again.  lots of clever people about
[12:47] <OmegaVII> cfhowlett, really thanks for your reply
[12:49] <kapcom01> hello, my upgrade failed because i left out of free space. Now i Have freed 13GB and I want to complete the upgrade. sudo apt-get dist-upgrade says that there is nothing to upgraded.. so does apt-get upgrade. But I know that it failed ata about 60-70%...
[12:49] <sonu> Hi, I'm facing problem with Ubuntu 13.10 on Macbook for wifi and trackpad
[12:50] <ansu> quick question about cronjobs. am I save to set permissions on jobs defined in /etc/cron.d/ to 400 ?
[12:50] <sonu> does anyone know what's the solution ?
[12:51] <barthem> sonu, and what exactly is the problem?
[12:51] <SliMM> Hello. Is there any way I could automatically mount a network drive just after I connect to a network (and, perhaps, unmount it when I disconnect). How about just after I connect to a particular network?
[12:51] <fluo75|2> barthem: Good point :)
[12:51] <sonu> barthem: WiFi adaptor is not seen at all
[12:52] <trippah> should i install ubuntu or crunchbang?
[12:52] <sonu> barthem: trackpad works only with a hard press and does not respond with a normal touch
[12:52] <trippah> i mean xubuntu
[12:52] <barthem> sliMM this worked for me on a ubuntu VM https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[12:52] <auronandace> trippah: up to you, but we can't support crunchbang here
[12:53] <trippah> why use ubuntu when there is debian?
[12:53] <barthem> sonu: if the wifi adapter isnt seen at all you might wana try to install the driver for it manually
[12:53] <Depa> Hi guys! :) I Installed Ubuntu 13.10 (x64)
[12:53] <Depa> and now I would like to install Skype
[12:54] <trippah> there is too many to chooices
[12:54] <auronandace> trippah: different tools for different uses
[12:54] <barthem> sonu: and regarding the trackpad, that sounds more like a hardware problem then a software to me
[12:54] <sonu> barthem: from where migtht I get the drivers?
[12:54] <Depa> I downloaded the DEB from the site... but "dpkg -i" show me a lot of error
[12:54] <sonu> barthem: it's strange as the wifi used to work well on 13.0
[12:54] <sonu> 13.04
[12:55] <barthem> sonu: i always get them from the manufactures website,
[12:55] <hitsujiTMO> ansu: you might want to make it 500
[12:55] <sonu> barthem: so, apple.com for macbook?
[12:56] <barthem> Depa: try to open it with the ubuntu Software Center instead
[12:56] <mbeierl> sonu: it may or may not be relevant, but when I did an upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 on a Dell system, I had to go into the software preferences and deselect use restricted drivers, reboot, then enable it again and my wifi came back
[12:57] <barthem> sonu: No the manufactures website from your network card, apple only sells them, but the different computer parts come from different vendors
[12:57] <Depa> barthem: I installed Server version, with KDE
[12:57] <mbeierl> sonu, I was following a thread about wifi and trackpad not working, and it was pointed out that the restricted drivers may get in the way.  No explanation was given, and I don't have the reference handy
[12:57] <barthem> Depa: no offense, but why would you want to install skype on a ubuntu server?
[12:57] <ansu> hitsujiTMO: yea makes sense :) but nevertheless I'm right in the assumption that these scripts are executed by root?
[12:57] <sonu> mbeierl: how to remove these restricted drivers?
[12:57] <hitsujiTMO> ansu, i believe so
[12:58] <sonu> mbeierl: I wonder why this change is made on 13.10 while 13.04 was good
[12:58] <Depa> barthem: Is not my decision...
[12:58] <mbeierl> It's under Preferences -> Sofware Sources, I believe.  Don't have my Ubuntu laptop handy
[12:58] <FS1> I'm sort of a newbie, but I'm trying to upgrade to 13.10... and it says I don't have enough disk space, even though I have a 600 GB harddrive and there's hardly anything on this computer.  Can anyone help me?
[12:58] <mbeierl> sonu, ^
[12:59] <barthem> Depa: ^^, whats the error you get if you use dkpg?
[12:59] <mbeierl> sonu, and it's not that 13.10 is not good, it's that something in the upgrade did not get triggered to update the restricted driver for the kernel.  That is my theory, but I have not attempted to reproduce it, so I have not filed a bug report
[12:59] <Depa> "Dependency problems..."
[13:00] <sonu> mbeierl: thanks, please give me some starting point to disable these drivers...
[13:00] <Depa> It needssome librsary but I already have it!
[13:00] <sonu> I shall get that done from there
[13:00] <Depa> simply I have che 64 bit ones
[13:00] <mbeierl> FS1, pastebin the output of df -h.  That command lists all the partitions (mount points) in your system.  It may be that one of them does not have enough space
[13:00] <Depa> need some library*
[13:00] <mbeierl> !pastebin
[13:01] <barthem> Depa: Depenency problems are a bit over my hat, i cant help you with that
[13:01] <FS1> mbeierl: http://pastebin.com/0MgsmhEb
[13:01] <mbeierl> sonu, Go to the main menu.  Look for Preferences, and then Software Sources.
[13:01] <Depa> barthem: I can't give you a paste, because is on another PC
[13:02] <sevenearths> I am just about to run the following line 'sudo apt-get build-dep python-psycopg2'. I have a local version of django with postgresql that is working (& I want to keep it that way). Will this command break any of that?
[13:02] <FS1> so I guess /boot is full?  I don't know why it's so small
[13:02] <ansu> hitsujiTMO: regarding 500. checking the files in /etc/cron.daily/ they're all executable but the ones in cron.d/ are not. so i'm not really sure about that executable flag
[13:02] <mbeierl> FS1, it is your /boot partition that has run out of space.  Not sure off the top of my head how to clear that up.  Remove old kernels?
[13:02] <odyssey4me> Has anyone noticed that somewhere along the line in one of the updates for Ubuntu 12.04 LTS the default lvm volume type changed to sparse volumes? This is causing me some trouble with preseeding and I'm wondering whether anyone knows how to ensure that it doesn't do sparse volumes.
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> FS1: uninstall old kernels to free space
[13:03] <mbeierl> FS1, the boot paritition is usually created automatically as part of the installation and is made small as it only contains files needed to start the boot process for the OS.
[13:03] <hitsujiTMO> ansu depends on how they are called, there's no harm on adding +x to be safe ...
[13:03] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip, is there an autoremove or something for kernels?
[13:03] <SchrodingersScat> mbeierl: could try apt-get autoremove?
[13:04] <hitsujiTMO> mbeierl: no, you need to manually purge old kernels
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: ubuntu-tweak does it, or you can look at the current kernel version and remove the others using apt-get
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> SchrodingersScat: autoremove only removes packages marked for removal due to failed deps
[13:04] <mbeierl> FS1: ^  give that a shot.
[13:05] <mbeierl> there used to be a setting in the apt conf somewhere that allowed for the automaticf deletion of old kernels, but it was removed because if a new kernel came down and it was broken, you were out of luck on next boot
[13:05] <griphus> hi
[13:06] <mbeierl> FS1, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/remove-old-kernels-from-ubuntu-13-04-13-10/
[13:06] <FS1> mbeierl: I tried apt-get autoremove, and it failed because there was not enough space, lol http://pastebin.com/a07CJqFv
[13:07] <FS1> ok, I'll do that now thanks
[13:10] <FS1> oh my goodness, I have like a dozen old kernels... these don't remove themselves?
[13:11] <hitsujiTMO> fs1: no its unsafe to auto remove old kernels in case the new one breaks
[13:11] <FS1> so everyone gets the problem of their /boot directory filling up eventually?
[13:12] <ola2> hello firends i have a question
[13:12] <ola2> i want to execute a program when someone opens an image
[13:12] <ola2> the program will run in background and user will see image
[13:12] <hitsujiTMO> fs1: yes if they have a seperate /boot partition ... but normally you'd only add a seperate /boot of you knew what was going on in there
[13:14] <ola2> anybody plz help
[13:14] <cfhowlett> ola2, and no notification that you just launched an executable in their system?  sounds highly suspicious
[13:14] <ola2> no i want to open a happy birthday message when they open image
[13:14] <ola2> in java joptionspane is for message
[13:15] <ola2> so when they open image java would popup a message
[13:15] <cfhowlett> ola2, sounds like you should ask the java programming folk about hat.
[13:15] <cfhowlett> !java
[13:15] <ola2> ok i say everything is installed
[13:15] <ola2> now tell me
[13:15] <ola2> its jar file
[13:16] <ola2> jar file java is installed
[13:16] <cfhowlett> ola2, ask in #jav
[13:16] <bean> ola2, this is pretty offtopic
[13:16] <cfhowlett> #java
[13:16] <bean> !ot | ola2
[13:16] <bean> this is not support related, this is "how can i troll my friend" related
[13:16] <ola2> its not off the topic
[13:16] <ola2> i will open this in linux
[13:16] <ola2> ubuntu
[13:16] <ola2> thats why im asking
[13:16] <bean> yep, but do you have something broken with your ubuntu install?
[13:16] <cfhowlett> ola2, it is.  sorry.  ask in #java, that's where java programming happens
[13:16] <ola2> hahaha
[13:17] <ola2> its not about java
[13:17] <ola2> i can make this in any language
[13:17] <ola2> even in shell script
[13:17] <ola2> now tell me
[13:17] <ola2> just popup message when image opens
[13:17] <cfhowlett> ola2, <ola2> in java joptionspane is for message
 so when they open image java would popup a message
[13:17] <bean> ola2, "now tell me" is pretty demanding.
[13:17] <ola2> ya
[13:17] <cfhowlett> !attitude, ola2
[13:18] <ola2> i need all ur help
[13:18] <bean> !attitude | ola2
[13:18] <ola2> no i want help
[13:18] <hitsujiTMO> ola2 that is not a support question, its a dev question, maybe ask in #ubuntu-app-devel
[13:18] <ola2> wo man u can answer or say no
[13:18] <ola2> u are all giving advise
[13:18] <ola2> dev channel say ask on ubuntu
[13:19] <cfhowlett> ola2, have you even tried to ask on the java channel?
[13:19] <bean> ola2, again I ask, is something broken with your ubuntu installation?
[13:19] <ola2> ya
[13:19] <ola2> they said its not about java
[13:19] <bean> oh, okay, then please tell me what is broken.
[13:20] <ola2> what i want is to open popup message when someone opens image on ubuntu
[13:20] <ola2> now is it ok
[13:20] <ola2> all channel say go to another one
[13:20] <bean> ola2, because it sounds silly suspiscious
[13:21] <bean> the only thing you could do it write a shell script that opens both.
[13:21] <cfhowlett> ola2, AND you want it to run in the background, you said
[13:21] <ola2> ya process wil run in background
[13:21] <bean> theres no way to do "when this image opens, run this command"
[13:21] <ola2> and it will popup message
[13:21] <bean> ola2, yeah, i'm done helping.
[13:22] <hitsujiTMO> ola2, just write .desktop link to your app, give it the icon of an image
[13:22] <ola2> i  have done that
[13:22] <cfhowlett> ola2, so STILL not an ubuntu support question...
[13:22] <ola2> but to user im giving this file doesnot want this
[13:22] <ola2> because i want to run this on ubuntu
[13:22] <ola2> linux requires permission i have given it
[13:23] <ola2> still not working
[13:23] <bean> ola2, yep, im def not going to help this, sounds way too much like you're trying to pwn someones machine
[13:23] <bean> so, ola2, there's nothing wrong with your ubuntu installation.
[13:23] <cfhowlett> ^^^ this
[13:23] <bean> so please, stop.
[13:23] <ola2> bean is ubuntu channel all about installation stuff
[13:24] <ola2> im asking about a different question related to ubuntu
[13:24] <ola2> if u dont want to answer its okay
[13:24] <cfhowlett> ola2, related to but NOT a support question.  sorry
[13:24] <cfhowlett> !ot
[13:24] <hitsujiTMO> ola2, we have answered your question to the best of out ability.
[13:24] <ola2> i have done that
[13:24] <ola2> means i made exe with image like icon
[13:24] <LPhas> Hi, i just upgraded to win 8.1 on a dual boot machine and of course it screwed grub. Problem is that this is an UEFI laptot and i seem not to be able to get a UEFI bootable usb stick. I tried with dd and some other tools but no luck. Any hints?
[13:25] <ola2> i gave it to friend
[13:25]  * bean adds ola2 to his ignore list.
[13:25] <mbeierl> sorry, FS1, afk for a bit.  Yes, it's an ongoing issue to keep cleaning up old kernels.
[13:25] <ola2> and he said its not working
[13:25] <cfhowlett> ola2, we're not going to address this here.  you've been told as much.  sorry, but you're in the wrong channel.
[13:25] <Rory> LPhas: My favourite tool to create a bootable USB is Linux Live USB (http://www.linuxliveusb.com) - I've used it on my UEFI system with no problems
[13:25] <hitsujiTMO> ola2, this is definitely not a support question then. you are in the wrong channel
[13:25] <DJones> ola2: This is not something that we can help you with. Please don't ask again
[13:26] <mbeierl> FS1, after an update, once you have confirmed the new kernel works by rebooting, you can use the command in here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-remove-or-hide-old-kernel-versions-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu
[13:26] <LPhas> Rory this is the last one i tried, no luck
[13:27] <Rory> LPhas: Sure it's not just a dodgy flash drive? Do you have a blank DVD or another drive to hand?
[13:27] <hitsujiTMO> lphas: what is exactly the problem when you try to boot the usb?
[13:27] <LPhas> Heh, i got no dvd reader.
[13:27] <GeorgeJetson> Hello, I increased the number of workspaces using MyUnity  in Ubuntu 12.04 but the navigator in the dock still only shows 4 workspaces, not the 8 I created.
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> GeorgeJetson: if you log off  and on is it ok?
[13:28] <GeorgeJetson> ActionParsnip: I have not tried that. I will try now
[13:32] <Gordio> wow. You see this?
[13:32] <lenzeor> Ubuntu update has left me with a bricked system... again..
[13:32] <Gordio> Ops sorry :) I find why this happens. :)
[13:33] <Rory> !details | lenzeor
[13:33] <Gordio> I copy ubuntu-13.10 to USB and load with grub4dos. But! After load I see "Install Ubuntu 13.04" and "Install Ubuntu 13.10" on desktop.
[13:34] <Rory> Gordio: Was there anything already on the USB before? I think you should format it first
[13:34] <lenzeor> Yup... Rory. I will make a live stick so I can read the log files. When I try to boot into the new Kernel, I get a splash screen and then a blank screen.
[13:34] <cfhowlett> Gordio, copy 13.10 to usb?  copy doesn't make a bootable.
[13:34] <Rory> lenzeor: Can you use a Recovery Mode from the grub menu?
[13:35] <lenzeor> Yup, should I try that first?
[13:35] <Gordio> before this I run ubuntu 13.04 and create casper-rw. My desktop (Ubuntu 13.04) saved to casper-rw :D
[13:35] <estudiante> facebook
[13:35] <Gordio> But I realy thinking Ubuntu find iso with ubuntu-13.04 and show me "Install" icon :D
[13:36] <lenzeor> Yup, should I try that first, Rory?
[13:36] <SteveBell> nice issue: I'm updating from 12.04 to 12.10 and the confirm button for removing packages dialogue is off screen. enter doesn't do anything. now what?!
[13:36] <Gordio> cfhowlett, I use grub4dos for load iso file :-P
[13:36] <m3kk> Is there a way to install unity on xubuntu 13.10 just to test how performance is?
[13:36] <lenzeor> m3kk "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[13:37] <cfhowlett> Gordio, never used it.
[13:37] <lenzeor> then log out and choose unity before logging in again m3kk
[13:37] <cfhowlett> Gordio, format your stick and try again
[13:37] <m3kk> lenzeor, wont that install a  tons of more packages? that i dont need? or just unity desktop?
[13:38] <hitsujiTMO> m3kk try a simulation and see
[13:38] <m3kk> hitsujiTMO, you mean in a virtual machine?
[13:38] <hitsujiTMO> apt-get -s install
[13:38] <Gordio> cfhowlett, why? I loss my data :P
[13:38] <lenzeor> m3kk it will install more packages, I think you can also "sudo apt-get unity"
[13:39] <Gordio> I find "problem"
[13:39] <Gordio> Reread my messages. And sorry my very bad English.
[13:39] <cfhowlett> Gordio, back up your data, format your stick, make a new ubuntu install stick.
[13:39] <Gordio> My "problem" casper-rw :)
[13:39] <Gordio> cfhowlett, I'm not crazy, sorry man :D
[13:40] <Gordio> My desktop with "Install Ubuntu 13.04" icon saved to casper-rw :D
[13:40] <Rory> !install | Gordio I'd recommend following the instructions here rather than grub4dos
[13:40] <Gordio> Ok. bb
[13:40] <m3kk> lenzeor, yes i was just reading about that.. will that install just the desktop enviroaḿent
[13:41] <Gordio> ubottu, no :) I don't have problems :D I use Ubuntu only from install Gentoo :P
[13:41] <Gordio> hehe)
[13:41] <Gordio> s/from/for/
[13:42] <Gordio> bb
[13:42] <Sander^lap> When is the new version of ubuntu out?
[13:42] <Rory> Sander^lap: Yesterday
[13:42] <Sander^lap> Ok, thanks :-)
[13:43] <md70> there is any .deb software GUI to backup my system like norton ghost on windows? thanks
[13:43] <DJones> !backup | md70
[13:45] <labsin> Is any one else having 2 network indicators after switching to Sausy?
[13:46] <md70> DJones, ubottu  thanks
[13:46] <DJones> md70: Hope there's something useful in the bots links
[13:46] <Paddy_NI> I am having an odd problem with adding ppas
[13:46] <crak> hi all
[13:47] <hitsujiTMO> !details | Paddy_NI
[13:47] <Paddy_NI> Well actually after adding certain ppas and performing "sudo apt-get update" I get 404s for those ppas
[13:47] <hitsujiTMO> which ppas?
[13:47] <Paddy_NI> hitsujiTMO, Would you be able to test them I can provide the links?
[13:47] <Paddy_NI> Just a sec
[13:47] <md70> DJones: yes it is so useful .. i read it now .. thanks babe
[13:48] <crak> i upgraded to 13.10 and my apache does not work any more. i used custom-exec and fcgi. after upgrade it is broken. so i installed php5-fpm to get rid of suexec. but still 403. my problem is exactly the same as http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19445686/ubuntu-server-apache-2-4-6-client-denied-by-server-configuration-php-fpm
[13:48] <crak> can anybody help me debugging it?'
[13:48] <md70> i jyst need to have a copy of my ubuntu system on a flash usb stick and keep it away
[13:49] <Paddy_NI> hitsujiTMO, Okay so as follows: ppa:yg-jensge/gupnp & ppa:gstreamer-developers/ppa & ppa:vala-team/ppa & ppa:clipgrab-team/ppa
[13:49] <hitsujiTMO> crak: there is a new version of apache2 on 13.10 completely new configs
[13:49] <lnostdal> hello guys, i figured using chromium would be a better idea than using chrome, but as the weeks and sometimes months roll by i see the version (on the ppa: https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/stable ) lagging somewhat ...this is worrying as the new releases has a lot of security fixes http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.pt/search/label/Stable%20updates  ...   is there a better ppa out there?
[13:49] <hitsujiTMO> paddy_ni what system are you using?
[13:50] <hitsujiTMO> what version of ubuntu that is
[13:50] <crak> hitsujiTMO: yeah, i already changed to the Require configs as shown here: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/upgrading.html#run-time
[13:50] <Paddy_NI> hitsujiTMO, fresh and updated 13.10 (64 bit)
[13:50] <ChogyDan> lnostdal: I don't think there is
[13:50] <Paddy_NI> hitsujiTMO, Web is working perfectly and other ppas such as "webupd8" works
[13:50] <lnostdal> ChogyDan: hm, yeah, too bad :/  ..this must be something that worry more people than just me
[13:51] <raub> Can anyone point me to instructions on creating a PPA?
[13:51] <Paddy_NI> hitsujiTMO, While troubleshooting I also added Googles Public DNS to see if that would help
[13:51] <PimpSmurf> Any reason why Ubuntu shows any of my 3 wireless network adaptors, but doesn't show any networks during install?
[13:51] <ChogyDan> lnostdal: well, it's been discussed.  There is a lack of resources, and you can use google-chrome
[13:51] <hitsujiTMO> paddy_ni, i think they are not supprting saucy in the broken ppas is your problem
[13:51] <Paddy_NI> hitsujiTMO, Oh :-(
[13:52] <lnostdal> ChogyDan: yup, i think i'll just have to "downgrade" to Google Chrome for now :]
[13:52] <Paddy_NI> I had not even checked that
[13:52] <crak> hitsujiTMO: the error.log says client denied by server configuration: /fcgi-bin-php5-fpm
[13:52] <Paddy_NI> hitsujiTMO, You're right :-(
[13:52] <ZeThomas> guys I need your help: I installed lubuntu yesterday on a fresh laptop, but t freezes, most of the time right after the grub menu, but one time i got up to x, to get errors in xorg and plymoutd, and then a freeze. It is a total freeze, not even reisub works..
[13:53] <Paddy_NI> I will have to hope that minidlna is available for saucy hitsujiTMO otherwise I may cry like a child
[13:53] <Seveas> !info minidlna saucy
[13:54] <hitsujiTMO> zethomos what exactly are you getting on the screen?
[13:54] <Seveas> Paddy_NI: it's available :)
[13:54] <hitsujiTMO> ZeThomas: ^^
[13:54] <Paddy_NI> Seveas, Yaaay :-D
[13:54] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, well, mostly, just nothing
[13:54] <drecute> can a grub2 reinstall fix kernel parnic?
[13:54] <ZeThomas> black screen
[13:54] <drecute> *panic
[13:54] <hitsujiTMO> ZeThomas: can you get into recovery mode?
[13:54] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, and the power and wifi light that burn
[13:54] <Seveas> drecute: nope.
[13:54] <costin_> ubuntu is poor
[13:55] <xlucas> Hi, I have a problem with my nvidia graphics card (FX 3800) in ubuntu 13.10. I'm currently using the official driver 304.88
[13:55] <Seveas> costin_: so donate some money :)
[13:55] <SliMM> I'm trying to use sshfs, but for some reason it's not using my RSA key to connect to the server and instead asks for the user password. Any ideas why?
[13:55] <drecute> Seveas: uh!
[13:55] <Seveas> drecute: normal ssh works fine?
[13:55] <hitsujiTMO> crak: i would advise doing a reinstall if you can,
[13:55] <Seveas> err...
[13:55] <crak> hitsujiTMO: i changed /etc/apache2/conf-enabled/php5-fpm.conf
[13:55] <Seveas> SliMM: normal ssh works fine?
[13:55] <costin_> Seveas  i am very poor  :)
[13:55] <crak> hitsujiTMO: i set all to Require all granted and it works now...
[13:56] <hitsujiTMO> ah cool
[13:56] <Seveas> costin_: then Ubuntu is excellent for you, it's free :)
[13:56] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, sometimes i don't even get up to the grub screen...
[13:56] <drecute> Seveas: what would you suggest as a solution to "kernel panic"?
[13:56] <crak> hitsujiTMO: it is a local server to develop so i can risk it...
[13:56] <crak> hitsujiTMO: thank you for your help!
[13:56] <Seveas> drecute: take a photo of the panic traceback with your phone and show it to us. The traceback may point in the correct direction
[13:57] <SliMM> Seveas: seems to
[13:57] <costin_> Seveas maybe in 2010,unity is poor
[13:57] <hitsujiTMO> ZeThomas: hold shift during boot
[13:57] <Seveas> SliMM: try sshfs -o ssh_command='ssh -vvv' -- it may show more debug ouput.
[13:58] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, I am in the recovery menu
[13:58] <Seveas> drecute: also try sshfs -o IdentityFile=/path/to/public key to encourage it a bit more
[13:58] <Seveas> s/public/private/
[13:59] <costin_> Seveas now I have installed Lubuntu,and my intel e8400 is fly
[13:59] <drecute> Seveas: I belive that ain't for me
[13:59] <blaizco> Hi folks. I can't get Full HD on Ubuntu screen resolution altough I have ATI Drivers installed. Any ideas on how to fix this?
[13:59] <Seveas> drecute: nope, SliMM again. I don't know why I keep doing that :)
[13:59] <blaizco> I have searched on Google and nothing....
[14:00] <Seveas> !ati | blaizco, checked this already?
[14:00] <hitsujiTMO> ZeThomas: have a look at /var/log/boot.log   or /var/log/dmesg    see if you can spot the error in therre
[14:00] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, within the recovery menu it gave a kernel panic...
[14:01] <SliMM> Seveas: actually, turns out I had wrong permissions on the file
[14:01] <SliMM> Seveas: And probably normal SSH was using ssh-agent with an older version of the key
[14:01] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, "Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! exitcode=0x00000b00"
[14:02] <Seveas> ZeThomas: it's the lines that come before that that are interesting
[14:03] <Seveas> ZeThomas: whatever is pretending to be init on your system is exiting (maybe crashing)
[14:03] <ZeThomas> Seveas, that it didn't show, it came on top of the recovery menu
[14:03] <hitsujiTMO> ZeThomas: can you get us a pic of the entire panic?
[14:03] <Seveas> ZeThomas: what did you pick in the recovery menu?
[14:04] <drecute> Seveas: http://imgur.com/SxpvV3Y
[14:04] <ZeThomas> Seveas, nothing yet, I was waiting for instructions, and there it came, in the middle of the screen
[14:04] <hitsujiTMO> zethomas: try booting a live cd   ...   mount the drive and link us /var/log/kern.log
[14:05] <drecute> Seveas: if I type exit from initramfs, I get a kernel panic
[14:07] <Seveas> drecute: well, yes, that's normal
[14:08] <Seveas> as you're killint pid 1 at that point
[14:08] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:08] <Seveas> but what that picture clearly show is that your harddisk is fried. Boot from a live cd, plug in a usb stick, and try to rescue as much as you can
[14:08] <drecute> Seveas: yes, it seems like it's my hard disk
[14:09] <drecute> but it's not
[14:09] <drecute> I have successfully ran fsck commands and it reports no errors
[14:09] <drecute> says it's clean
[14:10] <Seveas> intriguing
[14:10] <pumpi3> test
[14:10] <pumpi3> testing
[14:10] <pumpi3> anyone here?
[14:10] <Seveas> I still wouldn't risk it and just grab a new one
[14:10] <Seveas> pumpi3: no, nobody's here
[14:10] <ZeThomas> Seveas, hitsujiTMO, now I get this on reboot... http://imgur.com/IANewCi
[14:10] <pumpi3> I've got a little question regarding the installation of Ubuntu 13.10
[14:10] <pumpi3> oh okay, I guess I'll talk to the present ghosts in this room then
[14:11] <ZeThomas> it stopped lowering at 250, and now it's frozen again
[14:11] <Seveas> pumpi3: wht's the question?
[14:12] <pumpi3> I work on a Lenovo Ideapad Y500, and I want to do a fresh install of Ubuntu 13.10, so I used the pendrive installer as mentioned on the website, and wrote the iso to a usb-stick. After that I restarted my computer, changed UEFI into Legacy, but my laptop doesn't want to start up the installation
[14:13] <pumpi3> and almost freezes in the Lenovo welcome screen
[14:13] <pumpi3> USB is enabled in BIOS
[14:13] <Seveas> did you just copy the iso onto the usb disk or did you make a proper bootdisk?
[14:15] <cbilljones> can i create symlinks to every file in a folder somehow?
[14:15] <Seveas> cbilljones: sure
[14:16] <cbilljones> seveas with one command though?
[14:17] <Seveas> cbilljones: for f in /path/to/folder/*; do echo ln -s "$f"; done
[14:17] <Seveas> and remove the echo once you've verified it'll do the right thing
[14:18] <cbilljones> thx seveas i will try this when i get to office
[14:18] <cuco> hi, ubuntu phone development is here...?
[14:19] <Seveas> cuco: no, not really
[14:19] <ZeThomas> cuco, no that is in #ubuntu-touch
[14:19] <cuco> thanks :)
[14:19] <ishwon> hi folks. i have an issue when logging to http://loco.ubuntu.com.
[14:19] <ishwon> it says : The username () with which you tried to log in is already in use for a different account.
[14:19] <pumpi3> Seveas: I used the pendrive usb installer as mentioned on the site of ubuntu, and as a result I should have made a proper bootdisk
[14:20] <ishwon> it seems the bug has been reported by many, but i can't find a solution online.
[14:20] <ishwon> anybody can help with this?
[14:20] <IamTrying> This never works, what else i can do ? Everywhere its mentioned to use this 1) power : gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power active false 2) screen saver : gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.screensaver idle-activation-enabled false
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> ishwon: same with all browsers?
[14:21] <Seveas> pumpi3: ok, only other thing I can think of is trying a different disk, or trying this disk in a different computer to verify if it works
[14:22] <pumpi3> okay, will try it when I have the possibility. Installing with a CD does work though.
[14:22] <ishwon> ActionParsnip: yes, same with firefox & google chrome
[14:22] <IamTrying> Why it never works??? 1) power : gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power active false 2) screen saver : gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.screensaver idle-activation-enabled false
[14:23] <Ari-Yang> Oct 18 03:31:43 <zeifer>	Ari-Yang, following the 10.10 guide for removing pulse and going with alsa nowadays pulls in pulseaudio regardless of user request.
[14:23] <Ari-Yang>  ----> what? You can remove pulseaudio and just use alsa, what are you talking about?
[14:23] <Ari-Yang> guys, am I right? ^
[14:23] <Ari-Yang> oh he quit...
[14:24] <Ari-Yang> regardless, what zeifer said, is it true?
[14:24] <sophie_> Is Pulseaudio still iffy nowadays? I've not had any troubles with it as of 13.04.
[14:24] <Kurza> Hello, I have a problem with ubuntu 12.04. Its wifi connection randomly disconnect. The laptop I run it on has Atheros network card. Any ideas?
[14:24] <ChogyDan> Ari-Yang: I think alsa may just feed into pulse
[14:24] <Ari-Yang> Kurza: if if you're using proprietary wifi driver, try wifi without it?
[14:25] <Ari-Yang> sophie_: he's using 13.04 too, go figure
[14:25] <ishwon> anyone who can advise of the loco.ubuntu.com login issue?
[14:25] <IamTrying> Is this the culprit of all root?    15:25   0:00 /usr/bin/gnome-screensaver --no-daemon  ????
[14:25] <Ari-Yang> ChogyDan: exactly, I told him to remove pulseaudio and alsa then install alsa, I don't think he did
[14:25] <Ari-Yang> :/
[14:25] <sophie_> I just remember having to always uninstall it and switch to alsa back on 8.10
[14:25] <JoeyJoeJo> If my computer is set to DHCP and it doesn't get an IP address at boot, will it keep trying to get an IP or only when the computer boots?
[14:26] <hitsujiTMO> JoeyJoeJo: it will periodically try
[14:26] <JoeyJoeJo> thanks
[14:27] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6257496 is my /var/log/kern.log
[14:27] <Sander^lap> How do I change what the default kernel to boot is?
[14:28] <masak> hi -- hiding the title bar on gnome-terminal windows? preferably without compiz, just with a setting somewhere.
[14:28] <IamTrying> When Ubuntu desktop is running does it depend on "gnome-screensaver" daemon ???
[14:29] <hitsujiTMO> ZeThomas: seems to be a problem with /dev/sda1
[14:29] <IamTrying> Which one triggers that login screen automatically always? is it gnome-screensaver or something else?
[14:29] <flyn4x4> controller
[14:30] <IamTrying> flyn4x4, which controller?
[14:30] <flyn4x4> acpi
[14:30] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, that is some EFI partition
[14:30] <IamTrying> flyn4x4, then this should be it $ export DISPLAY=:0.0 && killall gnome-screensaver ; xset dpms force on & ?
[14:32] <hitsujiTMO> zethomas, that could be part of the problem, run fsck on the drive
[14:32] <Hanumaan> xlucas, can you give your xorg.conf file paste here : http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[14:32] <masak> all I find online is to hide the title bar on maximized terminal windows. I'd like to hide it always.
[14:33] <IamTrying> flyn4x4, what if the display driver is not correct with kernel? will xset dpms force on work?
[14:34] <umesh> Well Are you people from bangalore? by mistake also
[14:34] <CEnnis91> any common issues after upgrading to 13.10?
[14:34] <Sander^lap> I get up a message in 13.10 that it appears i'm running a mainline kernel, and that an bug was discovered.. Even tho I booted into an ubuntu kernel.
[14:34] <m3kk> Alright guys, i wanted to try out unity for the sake of comparision and i dont want to install full fledged ubuntu-desktop so i did install just unity, but lightdm does not show Unity as a session. is there any way around this? Install differnt login manager?
[14:34] <CEnnis91> looking to do it on a work pc, so I can't have too much downtime
[14:34] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, fsck says: 0x41: Dirty bit is set. Fs was not properly unmounted and some data may be corrupt; Remove dirty bit?
[14:34] <umesh> It is gr8! ubuntu 13.1 rocks
[14:35] <umesh> and rolls
[14:35] <Sander^lap> It might be because I upgraded from 13.04
[14:35] <umesh> YEah 13.04 sucks big time
[14:35] <jhutchins> ZeThomas: Yes.
[14:35] <umesh> I had trouble with sound
[14:35] <umesh> it is resolved on 13.1
[14:36] <hitsujiTMO> CEnnis91: some issues with graphics and ppas, nothing too out of the ordinary ... you should dd your drive before giving it a shot
[14:36] <strit> Anyone else with an NVIDIA card get a black screen by the 13.10 upgrade?
[14:38] <hitsujiTMO> strit: lots of peeps :P  .... what driver are you using  ... and whats the contents of your xorg log?
[14:38] <ZeThomas> jhutchins, hitsujiTMO , i do that, and fsck exits with "Leaving file system unchanged. /dev/sda1: 5 files, 556/124424 clusters"
[14:39] <ZeThomas> what do I do now, (try to) reboot in the system?
[14:39] <jhutchins> ZeThomas: What filesystem is it?
[14:39] <hitsujiTMO> vfat
[14:40] <hitsujiTMO> jhutchins: its efi boot
[14:40] <CEnnis91> hitsujiTMO: meh problems with nvidia? (surprise) ill hold off for a bit
[14:40] <strit> hitsujiTMO, I'm not on the machine atm, but it should be the drivers that comes with 13.10. 319.xx I believe. No xorg.conf. Just a .failsafe, which doesn't work either. :)
[14:41] <ZeThomas> jhutchins, fdisk reports /dev/sda as being GPT...
[14:41] <hitsujiTMO> ZeThomas: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=164185
[14:41] <ZeThomas> this is how my install has set it up, it was a clean disk (out of factory)
[14:43] <hitsujiTMO> strit: is it proprietary driver or nouveau? not your conf but your log ... should be /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:43] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, ok, I ran fsck with the -a flag, and now it says changes are performed. I will now try to boot again into my system
[14:43] <xbb> After upgrading to Ubuntu 13.10 when I click on any menus (Help, Window, Run) they don't show up. Only selection and menu stubs are visible, screenshot is here http://i.imgur.com/afbRlRF.png. I tried installing fresh 4.3 and same thing is happening. Can anybody confirm this before I switch to Windows? Oh God...
[14:44] <CEnnis91> hitsujiTMO: is nouveau recommended over the prop drivers?
[14:44] <CEnnis91> i've never dealt with nvidia cards outside of my job
[14:45] <strit> Probably proprietary. The ones that is with 13.10 install. :) haven't checked my log yet. I've been able to boot into driver 304 with a nomodeset parameter hitsujiTMO . But my keyboard input doesn't work there. :)
[14:45] <hitsujiTMO> CEnnis91: it depends on what you want ... if you need 3d acceleration go with proprietary drivers
[14:45] <erle-> are logs from /var/crash save to upload from a privacy perspective?
[14:45] <JoeyJoeJo> How can I set it so fsck automatically runs every time at boot but doesn't ask for any user input?
[14:45] <CEnnis91> hitsujiTMO: if i don't what's the advantage?
[14:45] <CEnnis91> just because it's open?
[14:47] <Bakajin> I am running 12.04 LTS and recently am having trouble downloading repository info.  It says to check my internet connection, but I think the connection is well.  Seeing as I can be here.  I am a total noob.
[14:47] <Bakajin> Is my issue the connection?
[14:47] <hitsujiTMO> nouveau seems to be more stable between kernel upgrades but has a tendency to run gpus on full blast all the time ... proprietary tends to allow for better power management .... normally  its stick with nouveau unless you need 3d accelleration or you have issues with it
[14:47] <Bakajin> Or is the repository missing somewhere.
[14:47] <xtriz> are there any xfce distro based on ubuntu ?
[14:47] <hitsujiTMO> xubuntu xtriz
[14:48] <xtriz> hitsujiTMO, ok :) any other ?
[14:48] <bluechaos> hitsujiTMO,
[14:48] <bluechaos> hello my friend
[14:48] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, I get into x, but am greeted with an error in /sbin/initctl
[14:48] <bluechaos> how are you
[14:49] <hitsujiTMO> good bluechaos
[14:49] <xlucas> Hanumaan - xorg.conf file pasted in: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6257640/
[14:49] <hitsujiTMO> xtriz, i dont use xfce so haven't been tracking them
[14:49] <xtriz> hitsujiTMO, ok np :)
[14:50] <hitsujiTMO> ZeThomas: whats the exact error ?
[14:50] <masak> anyone have any tips on how to get rid of gnome-terminal's title bar?
[14:50] <bwayne> JoeyJoeJo: this looks like an interesting way to me --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutoFsck
[14:51] <JoeyJoeJo> thanks batman
[14:51] <hitsujiTMO> ZeThomas: what brand of drive is this? its odd to be running into such issues on a fresh drive
[14:51] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, a samsung 840 evo ssd
[14:52] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, I lost the error :( where can I find it back?
[14:52] <SlvrYeti> Hello. I've just upgraded to 13.10 and my Ubuntu One no longer has a contextual menu or shows sync indicators on synced folders.
[14:52] <hitsujiTMO> ZeThomas: try the logs in /var/log   could be in kern.log boot.log or dmesg
[14:53] <hitsujiTMO> masak: whats the exact issue? can you screen shot it?
[14:54] <hatchetjack> how do I disable the tracker in 13.10?
[14:54] <hatchetjack> it's eating my cpu cycles
[14:54] <Seveas> hatchetjack: it's called zeitgeist, remove the package :)
[14:54] <SuperLag> I am on a ThinkPad W530, and I'm trying to configure Skype audio, so that I can use my headset for talking on calls... but I'm not sure how to tell *which* sound device to use, as there are several listed.
[14:54] <Seveas> first thing I do as well
[14:55] <masak> hitsujiTMO: oh, no issue, just a personal preference. would like a gnome-terminal window to be created without the title bar. ISTR I succeeded in doing that with some setting somewhere on a previous install of Linux Mint. but I don't recall how.
[14:56] <Marlenee> i setup apache server on my server and it seem that port 80 is closed
[14:56] <bwayne> JoeyJoeJo: perhaps 'tune2fs -C 1 /dev/sdaX' is cleaner.that article looks dated. my apologies.
[14:56] <Marlenee> how i iopen port 80 in my server via CLI
[14:56] <hatchetjack> Seveas: thanks, it's whacked
[14:56] <SuperLag> Seveas: wjat
[14:57] <SuperLag> Seveas: what's wrong with zeitgeist?
[14:57] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, it's in apport.log i think, here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6257690
[14:58] <SuperLag> Seveas: hatchetjack: and why do you call this a "tracker"?
[14:58] <JoeyJoeJo> bwayne: Do you know if that tune2fs command will stop the boot process and ask for confirmation from the user before it runs?
[14:59] <hatchetjack> SuperLag: aptitude show zeitgeist
[14:59] <hatchetjack> SuperLag: not sure if it was this tracker-extract process eating my cpu or not though
[15:00] <iBelieve> I'm interested in starting a website/blog about Ubuntu Touch & apps for it. Am I allowed to use "Ubuntu Touch" in the name, such as "Ubuntu Touch News & Apps"?
[15:00] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, no that's from before; I find no other mention of initctl in /var/log, except in ./upstart/plymouth-ready-startup.log
[15:00] <bwayne> JoeyJoeJo: one moment.
[15:01] <bwayne> Marlenee: if you're going to run a server, I think it'd be better for me to teach you how to fish, or at least tell you where the fish are .  --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[15:02] <Seveas> iBelieve: we cannot answer that. Please contact canonical's legal department.
[15:02] <iBelieve> Seveas, okay, thanks
[15:03] <Seveas> iBelieve: http://www.canonical.com/intellectual-property-policy should contain the answer, but it's written in legalese
[15:03] <hitsujiTMO> zethomas whats the current state of your system... try a reboot and see if the error comes up again
[15:04] <iBelieve> Seveas, thanks
[15:04] <bwayne> JoeyJoeJo: the tune2fs man page isn't helpful on that regard. let me see what else I can dig up.
[15:06] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, current state: the system seems to work ok, except no sound and wifi; I will reboot now and see
[15:06] <bignono1> hi, anyone knows the cmd to run webian shell ? please
[15:10] <tflgen2> can anyone help me understand why openssh server doesn't seem to be listening on a particular network adapter?
[15:10] <tflgen2> netstat -an|grep 22 gives me 0.0.0.0:22 listening
[15:11] <FiremanEd> bignono1: Try #webian
[15:11] <bignono1> dead
[15:12] <bwayne> JoeyJoeJo: apparently creating a file on the root directory ( /forcefsck ) will force a fsck on the next reboot. if you simply place 'y' in that file, it will be non-interactive. if one makes that file immutable ( chattr +i ), then that file will persist over reboots, and should accomplish what you're looking for.
[15:12] <bignono1> i asked in #firefox , no reply
[15:12] <bignono1> #firefox=#mozilla
[15:12] <JoeyJoeJo> bwayne: Cool, thanks for the advice
[15:12] <bwayne> JoeyJoeJo: but a larger question is, why on earth are you fsck'ing every boot?
[15:13] <JoeyJoeJo> bwayne: /dev/sda is a CF card on an embedded device
[15:13] <Oins> My cron.daily does not run. The crontab contains the following entries: http://pastebin.com/kCsgxwtv but if i run "test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily )" manually, no script is executed... (Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS Server)
[15:13] <JoeyJoeJo> If the device gets unplugged and not shut down, it sometimes fucks the filesystem
[15:13] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, all seems to boot normal now; except I get a message (in kern.log): microcode: failed to load file amd-ucode/microcode_amd_fam16h.bin
[15:13] <bwayne> JoeyJoeJo: gotcha. hope that helps. the internetz are sparse on that issue, somewhat. it seems to be an uncommon request.
[15:14] <JoeyJoeJo> thanks for your help
[15:14] <bwayne> np
[15:15] <hitsujiTMO> ZeThomas: run fsck on /dev/sda2   ...    i would personnaly attempt a clean reinstall and see if the issues arise again. could be a dodgy ssd
[15:15] <FiremanEd> bignono1: That project appears dead, by what I looked up online.
[15:16] <Oins> it seems, that cron.daily last times was fired on Oct, 13
[15:16] <bignono1> thanks any way FiremanEd
[15:17] <bignono1> its a nice browser that run with no x
[15:17] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, ok, will try that now. Any way to know for sure it is the disk? if so, I'll take it back to the store
[15:18] <hitsujiTMO> if you get more errors pointing when you run fsck then it would most likely point towards that
[15:20] <compdoc> anyone got a working remote desktop server working for 13.10?
[15:20] <Xspeed> hey everyone
[15:20] <reisio> heyo
[15:21] <Xspeed> can anyone help me with random rebooting of my ubuntu server? tnx anyway
[15:21] <MegaQuaggan> So, I rebooted my system and now I don't get any sound. My volume slider in volume control is greyed out, but all settings are correct. I ran killall pulseaudio and that didn't help. Can anyone help?
[15:22] <alazyworkaholic> I just managed to hose my 13.04 installation upgrading to 13.10. I had split / onto a btrfs ssd, and /home onto 2 raid 0 disks with ext4. Upgrade failed to complete because ubuntu cannot properly tell if there´s enough space on a btrfs filesystem. Now I have a liveUSB to reinstall / on the ssd, but while doing that, how can I recover the mdadm raid 0 /home?
[15:22] <ChogyDan> MegaQuaggan: ubuntu?
[15:22] <MegaQuaggan> Yes, 13.10
[15:23] <MegaQuaggan> checked alsamixer and volume is on, sound card device is set properly
[15:24] <somsip> !details | Xspeed
[15:24] <CatKiller> alazyworkaholic: You can start the array with mdadm --assemble
[15:24] <CatKiller> alazyworkaholic: Then mount it wherever you want
[15:25] <bignono1> try a reboot MegaQuaggan
[15:25] <raskovitch> il ya pas des filles ici ?
[15:25] <MegaQuaggan> I have tried multiple reboots, problem still occurs.
[15:26] <costin_> hi ppl
[15:27] <alazyworkaholic> CatKiller: Thanks. Like this? Install mdadm into the liveUSB environment, go into a terminal, and type sudo mdadm --assemble?
[15:27] <Xspeed> somsip, I have a problem with Ubuntu 12.04.3 webserver and it's rebooting randomly (don't know why). Tell me what u need exactly (some log, etc) and I give it. thank you
[15:27] <CatKiller> alazyworkaholic: sounds good yes
[15:27] <CatKiller> alazyworkaholic: You need to specify which devices you are assembling but just lookup the manpage to get more details
[15:27] <CatKiller> alazyworkaholic: Should be straightforward enough
[15:28] <somsip> Xspeed: webserver? First guess would be OOM (out of memory) errors in apache. Check /var/log/syslog
[15:28] <tflgen2> iptables may be the culprit as to why ssh isn't getting through, though I've added what I believe to be rules that work correctly for what I'm trying to do.
[15:29] <FiremanEd> !fr | raskovitch
[15:29] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, I rebooted into an usb, and now suddenly I get a GPF... http://imgur.com/vi1dscD
[15:29] <ZeThomas> before I even touched /dev/sda ...
[15:31] <x-yuri> hi, I recently updated ubuntu from raring to saucy and I now can't login to GNOME
[15:31] <MegaQuaggan> Update on no sound issue: ran the following commands: sudo apt-get remove --purge alsa-base pulseaudio && sudo apt-get install alsa-base pulseaudio && sudo alsa force-reload
[15:32] <MegaQuaggan> that didn't work. got this output: http://pastebin.com/cdrB9uEN
[15:32] <jolly_> sersa
[15:32] <jolly_> sera*
[15:32] <x-yuri> here're more details:
[15:33] <x-yuri> http://askubuntu.com/questions/360725/cant-log-in-to-gnome-after-upgrade-raring-saucy
[15:34] <ChogyDan> x-yuri: why not file a bug report?
[15:34] <FluffyKitty1000> Hey, im having some troubles with brightness on 13.10 ubuntu. (laptop) i mean, i can now use Fn keys and they're working (im glad for that) but they're jumping through brightneses i'd like to use
[15:35] <FluffyKitty1000> mayby there is some file i could edit and just change the 'pitch'
[15:36] <MegaQuaggan> could anyone help me with my sound problems? No fixes I've tried are working.
[15:37] <Xspeed> somsip, there is no 'out of memory' records in logs
[15:37] <x-yuri> ChogyDan: probably you're right
[15:37] <Xspeed> somsip, or 'out_of_memory'
[15:38] <alazyworkaholic> CatKiller: Took a look at the man file, but could you verify?          sudo mdadm -A /dev/md/ddf1 /dev/sda5 /dev/sdh6         I understand that will create a raid 0 array device called ddf1 (I don´t remember the previous name, does it matter?) from the logical partitions /dev/sda5 and /dev/sdh6
[15:38] <matthews_> hello
[15:38] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, fsck reports no errors on /dev/sda2 though...
[15:38] <matthews_> I just upgraded to 13.10
[15:38] <matthews_> and I seem to be having issues with transparency or something
[15:38] <CatKiller> alazyworkaholic: Strange array device, use "/dev/md0" or somethingh
[15:38] <matthews_> like notification windows show as flat black boxes with no text
[15:39] <CatKiller> alazyworkaholic: Apart from that it's all good, provided the RAID was indeed created on sda5 and sdh6
[15:39] <matthews_> the top bar of all windows show as flat black
[15:39] <alazyworkaholic> CatKiller: Ok, ddf1 is just the example they had in the man file.
[15:39] <CatKiller> alazyworkaholic: In any case "--assemble" is non destructuve
[15:39] <matthews_> no close or maximize icons
[15:39] <CatKiller> *destruictive
[15:39] <somsip> Xspeed: just to press the point, which logs did you check and how did you search for those terms?
[15:39] <matthews_> just flat black
[15:39] <CatKiller> *destructive
[15:40] <Xspeed> somsip, I used logwatch (to see report) and grep <string> /var/log/syslog (and syslog.1)
[15:40] <jp_hranice> Hallo here. I am unpleasured by stabylity of new verzion 13.10. What is wrong ? Is posible I got old PC ( http://phillw.net/hardware/XBcWezsW )?
[15:41] <FluffyKitty1000> is there a way of modifying how much brightness changes when im using Fn keys ?
[15:41] <somsip> Xspeed: grep is case sensitive. The OOM error is like this: July 12 13:11:19 localhost kernel: [ 8267.512850] Out of memory: kill process 7986 (apache) score 15147 or a child
[15:42] <FluffyKitty1000> normally i have 7 options to choose, and by using Fn shortc. there are only 4 degrees
[15:42] <FluffyKitty1000> somehow it bypases the middle ones
[15:42] <somsip> Xspeed: so grep -i would be better (unless you did use that before)
[15:42] <Xspeed> somsip, I did - no results
[15:42] <Eit8> anytime some application tries to get contats or events from my google account the keyring popup comes on top asking for the password and saying my password is wrong (it is not) anybody else having this issue ?
[15:42] <somsip> Xspeed: k - just going for the easy hit first
[15:43] <racho> anyone getting an error during boot with radeon.dpm=1 complaining about *restricted_levels*? the stats in /drm/card0 say it is using dpm but still i feel it quite hot..RV710 with latest kernel from the repos?
[15:44] <Xspeed> somsip, now did 'service apache2 stop' and now i'm watching uptime (by top)
[15:44] <alazyworkaholic> CatKiller: Thank you! That did the trick.
[15:44] <bluechaos> hitsujiTMO,
[15:44] <bluechaos> are u there my friend ?
[15:44] <somsip> Xspeed: how often is it rebooting?
[15:44] <jpedroza2k> Where might I go to file a bug report for 13.10. I found a bug with the intel gfx driver in the latest kernel.
[15:44] <CatKiller> alazyworkaholic: Glad it helped!
[15:45] <Xspeed> somsip, also checked memory by memtester
[15:46] <Xspeed> somsip, http://pastebin.com/i3kuKV2H
[15:48] <gdos> where do i find the files/scripts that are displayed in the desktop selector on the login menu?
[15:48] <somsip> Xspeed: check auth.log for other logins? check apache access log for unexpected activity?
[15:48] <TJ-> Anyone else noticed 13.10 installing grub-common's "/usr/lib/grub/grub-mkconfig_lib" as a real file rather than a symlink to "/usr/share/grub/grub-mkconfig_lib" ?
[15:48] <ZeThomas> hello, can anybody help me get my wifi and sound working?
[15:50] <chakatns> anyone tried to change back to ubuntu touch to android?
[15:50] <somsip> !touch | chakatns
[15:50] <chakatns> from ubuntu that is
[15:53] <gdos> ZeThomas: just upgraded to 13.10 myself and have same issue.
[15:53] <NimeshNeema> hitsujiTMO: hello
[15:54] <NimeshNeema> ZeThomas: laptop / desktop ?
[15:54] <alazyworkaholic> CatKiller: Just thought of something - my liveUSB has mdadm, but when I restart the computer the install won`t have it because it is not part of the std install & I will be without a /home partition, right? Do you know how I can add mdadm to the list of packages installed at install time?
[15:54] <ZeThomas> NimeshNeema, laptop
[15:55] <NimeshNeema> ZeThomas: see if this helps http://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/how-to-install-broadcom-wireless-drivers
[15:55] <NimeshNeema> i use a 2008 dell inspiron 1525 with broadcom wireless chip and it helped with wifi
[15:56] <CatKiller> alazyworkaholic: Probably, this was just to help you recover data. To do so you'll have to add the RAID to fstab
[15:56] <CatKiller> alazyworkaholic: On your new system,
[15:57] <CatKiller> alazyworkaholic: Install "mdadm", hopefully it will add it to your initramdisk (if it's not already there)
[15:57] <ZeThomas> NimeshNeema, lspci gives me: "Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device b723"
[15:57] <CatKiller> fstab should do the rest
[15:58] <Xspeed> somsip, logs looks good. I ran badblocks..
[15:58] <NimeshNeema> ZeThomas: no idea in that case
[15:58] <somsip> Xspeed: too late at night for me now. Best of luck, but I'm done.
[15:58] <Xspeed> somsip, good luck, tnx!
[15:59] <CatKiller> alazyworkaholic: Something like "/dev/md0 /home ext3 noatime,rw 0 0" that should work
[15:59] <CatKiller> alazyworkaholic: Look up http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-creating-software-raid-one-arrays/
[16:01] <darkangel_> Hey is it safe to Upgrade 12.04 --> 12.10?
[16:03] <Rory> darkangel_: Yes
[16:03] <Rory> !upgrade | darkangel_
[16:03] <darkangel_> ok thx
[16:04] <fedeisas> hi guys! How can I make /var/www writable and readable for two users (www-data and my deploy user).
[16:05] <ndee> anyone  knows a cli-tool which is like midnight commander but has more than 2 file panes?
[16:05] <Psycho_pr> How do I control the output mode from my laptop (PAL/NTSC) external monitor port?
[16:05] <Nothing_Much> Question, how long does it take for Ubuntu One to accept my payment?
[16:06] <somsip> fedeisas: add your deploy user to www-data group. /var/www whould already be 770 root:www-data
[16:06] <somsip> *should
[16:10] <fedeisas> somsip that doens't work :-(, deploy can't enter the directory
[16:10] <somsip> fedeisas: has to logout and back in again after being added to a group
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> ndee: you can use screen to make panels
[16:11] <splig>  /join #symfony
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> splig: watch the leading space
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> Nothing_Much: try asking in #ubuntuone
[16:11] <fedeisas> somsip I didn't know that! Everyday you learn something new! Thanks.
[16:12] <somsip> fedeisas: np. Might not be the ideral solution for you, but it's usually a better starting place than making /var/www permissions unsafe. YMMV
[16:12] <fedeisas> somsip and I have both users (www-data and deploy) creating files there. How can I make that those files are always r+w for both of them?
[16:12] <somsip> *ideal
[16:12] <somsip> fedeisas: sudo chmod g+s /var/www
[16:13] <gdos> where do i find the files/scripts that are displayed in the desktop selector on the login menu?
[16:13] <pmo> Hey guys.. been trying to upgrade ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10 on my machine.. the update manager keeps saying 13.10 is still in BETA.. i upgraded a friends laptop from 13.04 to 13.10, didnt say BETA
[16:13] <somsip> fedeisas: though it may be better to do it on individual sub folders, eg sudo chmod g+s /var/www/project1
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> gdos: they are files in /usr/share/xsessions
[16:14] <gdos> thanks ActionParsnip
[16:14] <pmo> idea's?
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> gdos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompizStandalone   shows how to have compiz as a stanalone WM :)
[16:14] <fedeisas> somsip allright, I'll try that, thanks men
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> pmo: you could use the -d option on do-release-upgrade   see if it jumps to Saucy
[16:15] <pmo> i am :)
[16:15] <pmo> err wait i didnt read the line proper
[16:15] <pmo> i use -d but let me try that command
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> pmo: sudo do-release-upgrade    will take you to the next release
[16:16] <AlexKibler> Hey everybody, I'm working on a project on my ubuntu 13.04 machine, and now that everything is working exactly how I want it to, is there any way I can make a virtualbox image of my system to give to my project partners so we all start from the same point?
[16:16] <pmo> seems like this is working ActionParsnip, thanks :) just havent used ubuntu in a very long time hehe
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> pmo: it's all in the upgrade notes
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | pmo
[16:17] <pmo> hehe i assumed it was the update manager hehe
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> pmo: nar, server CLI method is how I do it :)
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> pmo: mind you I always clean install
[16:17] <pmo> hehe ActionParsnip i installed a few days ago :)
[16:18] <luxgeek> Anyone know how I can diff 19 files? I'm googling but not finding any solutions yet... The files contain enabled modules from 19 different sites but my boss needs to know how many modules are common between them (our base install) to know which ones can be trimmed...anyone?
[16:18] <hitsujiTMO> ZeThomas: at least that its hopefully not a dodgy ssd then. whats output of: lspci
[16:18] <pmo> ActionParsnip: its upgrading now, thanks again :)
[16:18] <mojtaba> Hi, I have updated to 13.10 yesterday, but my laptop's pad is not functioning correctly. Does anybody know what should I do? (also I have some difficulty with ubunut tweak to delete old kernels. it just crashes.)
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> pmo: np :)
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: what make and model laptop?
[16:19] <hitsujiTMO> bluechaos: yes i'm here
[16:19] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: Dell Studio 1555
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: why did you not have that detail in the initial question?
[16:19] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: forgot. :-P
[16:20] <jojo__> bs
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: seems common, i'll dig more
[16:21] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6258218
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> !info gpointing-device-settings saucy
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: try using t
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> gpointing-device-settings
[16:21] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: t?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: was meant to be 'the'
[16:22] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: try using what?
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: gpointing-device-settings
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: like I said...
[16:23] <PunchyPenguin> After wiping and installing saucy afresh, it doesn't detect my video card properly and prompts me to use 'low graphics mode'. But this does nothing.
[16:23] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: Where is it?
[16:23] <rodger_nc> I just updated to 13.10 and within a few seconds of logging in the screen goes nuts - I can see noting - looks like snow - I am now booted from another disk on the same system using 12.04 - What file on the other disk do I need to edit to go to a generic driver so I can log into that system and reinstall the drivers?
[16:23] <hitsujiTMO> ZeThomas: whats output of lspci -k
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: may help too http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/v/LLXmLdAJykmqsFnDrDhU
[16:24] <Sander^lap> How do I disable the current kernel from grub? As I have the stock kernel installed which causes problems.
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: software centre
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> rodger_nc: what video chip do you use?
[16:25] <rodger_nc> AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 250u Processor × 2
[16:25] <rodger_nc> with a radeon
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> rodger_nc: which radeon?
[16:25] <rodger_nc> one second
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> rodger_nc: your CPU is of no interest in this issue
[16:25] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6258253
[16:26] <Mendigaum> I just updated my ubuntu to 13.10, and my apache virtual hosts stoped working. Also when i try to enable them with a2ensite it says there is no website for this name. Is there another channel with apache specific support?
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> Mendigaum: #apache maybe
[16:26] <BooeyOH> If I wanted to parse every command that is run with "sudo" to see if it contains certain keywords, and if so, print out a warning with a confirmation, is that possible, if so, can someone point me to how to do that?
[16:26] <sophie_> Sorry this isn't the right place for this question but, does an i7 have any extra raw power over an i5 or is it just hyperthreading which makes it better for certain things?
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> sophie_: tr in ##hardware
[16:27] <sophie_> thanks
[16:28] <Mendigaum> ActionParsnip, thanks.
[16:28] <hitsujiTMO> ZeThomas: is the audio controls greyed out?
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> rodger_nc: sudo lshw -C display       will show you
[16:29] <darkangel_> do you have to Enable "Third Party" to upgrade from 12.04 to --> 12.10 or could you skip it?
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> darkangel_: I would
[16:29] <darkangel_> how you Enable it?
[16:29] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, I just got the audio fixed, installing pulse did the trick, it is the wifi that is giving the most headache..
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> darkangel_: keep to the main repos for upgrades, enable 3rd party stuff after
[16:30] <PunchyPenguin> Saucy complains it cannot configure my video card. I looked at the xorg log file but cannot copy it as the machine doesn't mount any USB devices. Running in low graphics mode does nothing.
[16:30] <luxgeek> Or IS there even a way to diff more than three files?
[16:30] <darkangel_> ok
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> luxgeek: you can use a bash loop,
[16:31] <luxgeek> ActionParsnip: Not following?
[16:31] <rodger_nc> ActionParsnip: Sorry it is a C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430]
[16:31] <darkangel_> whats a Terminal Command to enable it?
[16:31] <CatKiller> luxgeek: How about vimdiff
[16:32] <luxgeek> CatKiller: Interesting...
[16:32] <CatKiller> luxgeek: Sorry I had not realized it was *more* than 3
[16:32] <CatKiller> luxgeek: Vimdiff does 3
[16:32] <CatKiller> sorry
[16:32] <CatKiller> it does more!
[16:32] <luxgeek> CatKiller: Ok...
[16:32] <hitsujiTMO> ZeThomas: it may nnot be supprted currently https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1240940
[16:33] <CatKiller> luxgeek: It does 4
[16:34] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, so what are my options?
[16:34] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: Thank you very much. The problem of the touch pad is now solved.
[16:34] <Korrosion> Im having some issues installign a second nic on 12.04
[16:35] <Korrosion> "Failed to bring up eth1."
[16:35] <mojtaba> I am trying to delete old kernels with ubuntu tweak. but it is crashing. I am using dell studio 1555 ubuntu 13.10.
[16:35] <Mendigaum> Hey, i've just updated to ubuntu 13.10 and my apache envvars are not configured, why? http://apaste.info/mNDd
[16:35] <mojtaba> Does anybody know what should I do?
[16:35] <hitsujiTMO> wait for support, buy a usb wifi dongle or replace the internal wifi card with a supported on (you can find em on ebay usuall pretty cheap)
[16:36] <Nothing_Much> Question, how long does it take for Ubuntu One to accept my payment?
[16:37] <Nothing_Much> #ubuntuone is not very active, so I'm hoping for an answer
[16:37] <Mendigaum> Hey, i've just updated to ubuntu 13.10 and my apache envvars are not configured, why? http://apaste.info/mNDd
[16:38] <luxgeek> So there doesn't seem to be a way of diff'ing 19 files then? :(
[16:38] <andry> Mendigaum, you defined them in /etc/apache2/envvars?
[16:39] <Mendigaum> andry, no. But shouldnt it be defined by default? my apache2 was working b4 the upgrade to 13.10
[16:40] <rodger_nc> I just updated to 13.10 and within a few seconds of logging in the screen goes nuts - I can see nothing - looks like snow - I am now booted from another disk on the same system using 12.04 - What file on the 13.10 disk do I need to edit to go to a generic driver so I can log into that system and reinstall the drivers?  I have a C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430]
[16:40] <dannymichel> Right now i have everything backed up using 'Back in Time" and I'm running Mint. Would I be able to smoothly transition from Mint to Ubuntu with the backups I have in Back in Time? I mean apache configuration, apps, etc. as well. Not just /home stuff.
[16:41] <andry> maybe they changed a lot in the apache2 package, i just remember using this config file latly
[16:41] <andry> lately
[16:41] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, ok, i will use usb tethering of my phone for now. thanks for your help!
[16:43] <hitsujiTMO> Mendigaum: unfortunately apache2 has a completely new configuration in 13.10 with the upgrade from 2.2 to 2.4 ... this seems to effect most users during the upgrade
[16:44] <andry> oh ok, 2.4 now
[16:44] <Mendigaum> hitsujiTMO, i understand that. But am i supposed to guess the variable values? is there any example?
[16:45] <hitsujiTMO> Mendigaum: your best resolve the issue is to install backup your current /etc/apache2 dir and try a dpkg-reconfigure
[16:45] <Moccodo|2> Ubuntu 13.10, gdm: In the login-window I can choose which DE to run (KDE, Ubuntu). But there are also entries like KDE/Openbox Lubuntu/OpenBox or other stuff. How can I remove these entries?
[16:46] <rufsketch1> Hello everyone
[16:46] <rufsketch1> I have a kernel module called cx23885 that is automatically loaded on startup
[16:47] <rufsketch1> I want to make it so that this kernel model gets loaded as usual, but gets loaded with a different option
[16:47] <Mendigaum> hitsujiTMO, ppl from #httpd told me its #ubuntu problems. They already helped me and now i know virtual hosts now needs a .conf extension. But i cant guess those missing variable values.
[16:47] <rufsketch1> specifically, I want to load it as cx23885 card=3
[16:47] <rufsketch1> /etc/modules seems to not care what I tell it.
[16:47] <justaguy> So i just updated my ubuntu 13.04 system to 13.10 , how could i check if the installation went good and I didn't ruined something
[16:48] <rufsketch1> justaguy, what kind of things are you worried you might have ruined?
[16:48] <rodger_nc> xorg.conf.d does not appear to be used any longer so how does 13.10 know which video driver to use?
[16:48] <hitsujiTMO> Mendigaum: i'll see if i can pull the default envars config for you
[16:48] <justaguy> rufsketch1: idk, no idea what could have went wrong :p
[16:48] <ChogyDan> rodger_nc: try uninstalling the nvidia driver package
[16:48] <Mendigaum> hitsujiTMO, thanks
[16:49] <andry> xorg.conf.d is still used
[16:49] <andry> in /usr/share/X11
[16:49] <justaguy> Linux justaguy-Celeron 3.11.0-12-generic #19-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 9 16:20:46 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:49] <rufsketch1> justaguy, you could always just use it until you find something screwed up?
[16:49] <rodger_nc> I can not install it bcause I can not get into the system - I need to edit a file and change the config to use a generic driver first
[16:49] <justaguy> is that right for ubuntu 13.04?
[16:49] <andry> kernel 3.11 is default in 13.10
[16:49] <andry> linux for workstations :P
[16:50] <vooze> Is there a good distro based on ubuntu that uses openbox / tint2?
[16:50] <andry> vooze, http://distrowatch.com/search.php
[16:50] <andry> :)
[16:51] <Ari-Yang> what's the keyboard shortcut to restart X server on ubuntu 12.04?
[16:51] <andry> vooze, i would install via minimal iso and then just install openbox
[16:51] <rodger_nc> ChogyDan: I can not uninstall it because I can not get into the system - I need to edit a file and change the config to use a generic driver first
[16:52] <ChogyDan> rodger_nc: use ctrl+alt+f1 to get to a terminal
[16:52] <LuxuryMode> I've installed a program in #HOME/bin but when I run (a java program) it crashes with "java.io.IOException: No such file or directory" bc it doesn't have permissions…it works if i use sudo {app_name} but I shouldn't have to do that, right?
[16:52] <boddhii> hei
[16:52] <hitsujiTMO> Mendigaum: paste.ubuntu.com/6258418
[16:52] <LuxuryMode> * $HOME
[16:52] <andry> Ari-Yang, either it is bound to ctrl+alt+backspace, or just go to tty1 (ctrl+alt+f1) and type "sudo service lightdm restart"
[16:52] <hitsujiTMO> Mendigaum: thats for /etc/apache2/envvars
[16:53] <ChogyDan> LuxuryMode: does that mean you are trying to write to a file?
[16:53] <rodger_nc> ChogyDan: the video is all snow on 13.10 within a minute of booting up - can not do anything in the system - can't see -  I am on the same machine booted from 12.04 - I need to edit a file on the 13.10 disk to change the video driver
[16:53] <boddhii> how to edit quicklist in 12.04?
[16:54] <andry> rodger_nc, you can create a file named 20-video.conf in the conf.d and write a section for "device"
[16:54] <boddhii> my home quicklist is become error
[16:54] <boddhii> http://imageshack.com/scaled/800x600/163/0qjg.png
[16:54] <LuxuryMode> ChogyDan, i guess..not sure what the program has to do to run, but yes presumably...
[16:54] <vooze> andry: yeah thinking about that also, but just wanted to see some options, but I did not know you could search like that on distrowatch, thanks :)
[16:54] <andry> vooze, sorry i dont have a recommendation :/ :)
[16:55] <rodger_nc> andry - can I copy a file to 20-video.conf because I would have no idea how to write the "device" section
[16:55] <LuxuryMode> ChogyDan, the documentation for the program says "extract the archive to a location where you have both read and write access (...) Running play writes some files to directories within the archive, so don’t install to /opt, /usr/local or anywhere else you’d need special permission to write to." … which is why i made a point of putting it in $HOME/bin
[16:55] <andry> rodger_nc, like this, quick and dirty :D http://pastebin.com/6xyU3rZe
[16:56] <ChogyDan> LuxuryMode: are the permissions for ~/bin correct?
[16:56] <Mendigaum> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6258433/
[16:56] <andry> (this goes to /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[16:57] <LuxuryMode> ChogyDan, i created that directory so shouldn't it be rw by default?
[16:57] <Mendigaum> hitsujiTMO, the weird thing is that the variables are defined. But someway it looks like apache2 is not able to read them. That happens when i try to run "sudo apache2 --version"
[16:57] <LuxuryMode> ChogyDan, hmm its drwxr-xr-x 3 root    root    4.0K Oct 18 16:50 bin
[16:58] <ChogyDan> LuxuryMode: well, you obviously did not create it as your user, it is owned by root
[16:58] <vooze> andry: seems I need to install from minimal, all the openbox OS's are only 32bit it seems :/
[16:58] <rufsketch1> does anyone know anything about kernel modules?
[16:58] <Nothing_Much> Question, how long does it take for Ubuntu One to accept my payment?
[16:59] <andry> yea i search one, too .. i also dont know any of these distros
[16:59] <LuxuryMode> ChogyDan, ah i see. the problem is that this is a virtual box and this mkdir was in a script where the provisioner runs e/t in it as root
[16:59] <jpedroza2k> rufsketch1, I know a bit, what are you trying to do?
[16:59] <LuxuryMode> ChogyDan, can i specifically run a command NOT as root?
[16:59] <hitsujiTMO> Mendigaum: yes i've seen the same issue with other people after the upgrade
[16:59] <LuxuryMode> ChogyDan, or should i just change the permissions afterwards?
[16:59] <rufsketch1> jpedroza2k, I have a kernel module that loads on startup. I need it to keep doing that, but I need it to do that with a different option
[16:59] <rodger_nc> andry:  got it thanks - now which directory is the subdirectory config.d located?
[17:00] <andry> place the conf in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[17:00] <rufsketch1> jpedroza2k, currently, it's doing the equivalent of modprobe cx23885 I think
[17:00] <ChogyDan> LuxuryMode: I dunno.  You can just chown it back
[17:00] <Nothing_Much> Anyone?
[17:00] <andry> vesa should be "failsafe"
[17:00] <rufsketch1> jpedroza2k, and I need it to do the equivalent of modprobe cx23885 card=3
[17:00] <LuxuryMode> ChogyDan, gotcha
[17:00] <jpedroza2k> what does lsmod return rufsketch1 ?
[17:01] <rufsketch1> jpedroza2k, in which scenario?
[17:01] <lmat> I'm trying to let a user sftp from a server. Currently it's not working (Connection closed).
[17:01] <rufsketch1> jpedroza2k, before I
[17:01] <lmat> I see from the client and server logs that authentication is successful
[17:01] <rufsketch1> jpedroza2k, before I manually change it with modprobe?
[17:01] <dannymichel> Right now i have everything backed up using 'Back in Time" and I'm running Mint. Would I be able to smoothly transition from Mint to Ubuntu with the backups I have in Back in Time? I mean apache configuration, apps, etc. as well. Not just /home stuff.
[17:01] <lmat> And I see from server logs that the client is requesting the sftp subsystem, and it's pretty soon after that that the connection closes.
[17:01] <jpedroza2k> rufsketch1, sorry, is there a file in /etc/modprobe.d that loads the module?
[17:02] <rufsketch1> jpedroza2k, not that i can see
[17:02] <lmat> Do I have to install vsftpd in order to make this work ? Or will the simple ol sshd do the trick ?
[17:03] <michael> k
[17:03] <rufsketch1> jpedroza2k, that is to say, I think it may be in the kernel?
[17:03] <jpedroza2k> rufsketch1, like compiled in, rather than loaded dynamically?
[17:04] <lmat> Looks like openSSH claims to make all this work with just sshd. That's good news...now what do I need to set up to make sure my user (steve) can sftp ? :(
[17:04] <rufsketch1> jpedroza2k, I mean. I'm not *sure*. But I don't know of any other reason for it not to be in modprobe.d?
[17:04] <bean__> lmat: it should "Just Work™"
[17:04] <rufsketch1> jpedroza2k, granted, I don't know much about kernel modules
[17:05] <lmat> bean__: I know! Most of this stuff does.
[17:05] <bean__> lmat: what error is the user getting?
[17:06] <lmat> "Connection closed"
[17:06] <lmat> bean__: Let me show you my server logs...
[17:06] <jpedroza2k> rufsketch1, ls
[17:06] <jpedroza2k> sorry
[17:06] <bean__> lmat: that could mean any number of things. Is that the error that the /end user/ is getting?
[17:06] <lmat> bean__: yes
[17:07] <bean__> lmat: and what client is he using?
[17:07] <rufsketch1> jpedroza2k, are you asking me to ls modprobe.d?
[17:07] <jpedroza2k> no, wrong window rufsketch1 :)
[17:07] <lmat> http://sprunge.us/FRLY
[17:07] <rutger_> hello
[17:07] <lmat> bean__: ^  using sftp :) (openssh)
[17:07] <lmat> bean__: (the other user is me)
[17:08] <lmat> bean__: I'm running it right here right now.
[17:08] <rutger_> I need some help with ubuntu
[17:08] <lmat> http://sprunge.us/FRLY
[17:08] <lmat> doh
[17:08] <rutger_> everytime I type sl a train appears but I would like to see my files and folders
[17:08] <rufsketch1> jpedroza2k, ah
[17:08] <jpedroza2k> rufsketch1, if there is no file in /etc/modprobe.d that means the module was compiled into the kernel.
[17:08] <bean__> lmat: I see it :) It looks like it's working to me? Is he just not able to upload at all?
[17:08] <lmat> bean__: Using this command : sftp -v -P $(<bukavuport) steve@$(<churchip):/mnt/share/Public/hey
[17:09] <lmat> bean__: hey...glad I made those file redirects...I could have just given you the ip and port :o
[17:09] <lmat> bean__: Anyway...
[17:09] <bean__> lmat: haha, I wouldn't have had a password anyways :) Does the user have permissions to write to that path?
[17:09] <jpedroza2k> rufsketch1, so I would imagine you would have to rebuild the kernel with the new parameter for that module added during the configuration process.
[17:09] <rodger_nc> I am doing a search on my entire drive for the conf.d directory - it would be faster if someone could tell me where to put a display configuration
[17:09]  * bean__ was assuming that you'd be writing to their home dir.
[17:09] <jpedroza2k> rufsketch1, Which is way above my pay grade. :)
[17:10] <lmat> bean__: write ? He should only need read
[17:10] <bean__> lmat: OH, does he have read permissions, then?
[17:10] <lmat> bean__: write to what path ? I assume you mean the Public dir, or do you mean ~ ?
[17:10] <bean__> lmat: the public dir
[17:10] <lmat> bean__: Yeah,  Public is    xwrxwrxwrxwrx root root
[17:10] <rufsketch1> jpedroza2k, is there any way to remove a module built in to the kernel on boot time, and then reload it with a different kernel option?
[17:10] <lmat> bean__: It's really public ^_^
[17:11] <lmat> bean__: and hey is -rw-rw-r-- lawsa lawsa .
[17:11] <bean__> lmat, can you log in as that user in SSH and see if that can "cd" to that dir?
[17:11] <jpedroza2k> rufsketch1, no unload on a compiled module.
[17:11] <lmat> bean__: no, he can't ssh in.
[17:11] <lmat> bean__: passwd for his is   .....:/usr/bin/sftp
[17:11] <bean__> ah, okay.
[17:11] <lmat> bean__: (it used to be rssh)
[17:11] <occ> what is the easiest way to install a VM with ubuntu? do i need to install a VM then use an ubuntu iso... or is there a VM with the ubuntu image built in?
[17:11] <lmat> bean__: I'm willing to change it (but probably not ssh)
[17:11] <Mendigaum> hitsujiTMO, read this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/146688/why-doesnt-apache2-respect-my-envvars-file
[17:11] <lmat> bean__: Now we're gettin somewhere ?
[17:12] <andry> anyone uses infinality?
[17:12]  * lmat feels bean__ reading... ^_^
[17:12] <bean__> lmat: I think the best thing to do is to have it be /bin/bash (or w/e shell) but then use ForceCommand in your SSHd config.
[17:13] <lmat> bean__: Interesting... I'll give it as hot.
[17:13] <lmat> bean__: a shot that is.
[17:13] <bean__> lmat: this is for debian, but likely close enough: http://www.howtoforge.com/restricting-users-to-sftp-plus-setting-up-chrooted-ssh-sftp-debian-squeeze
[17:13] <dannymichel> Right now i have everything backed up using 'Back in Time" and I'm running Mint. Would I be able to smoothly transition from Mint to Ubuntu with the backups I have in Back in Time? I mean apache configuration, apps, etc. as well. Not just /home stuff.
[17:14] <bean__> lmat: you likely only need through step 3
[17:14] <hitsujiTMO> Mendigaum: ah, were you not using sudo service apache2   to try to manage apache2?
[17:14] <lmat> bean__: Thanks. I'll let you know if it goes haywire. Thanks again.
[17:14] <bean__> lmat: no problem
[17:14] <lmat> bean__: the url seems promising :)
[17:14] <Mendigaum> hitsujiTMO, I was trying to output the apache version. in 2.2 i used to run apache2 --version
[17:14] <Mendigaum> hitsujiTMO, while apache --version gives me undefined variables, apachectl -V returns everything ok
[17:15] <Mendigaum> hitsujiTMO, but it used to work in  apache 2.2 ubuntu
[17:15] <bean__> lmat: I think the sftp path is /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server
[17:15] <bean__> you could try using that instead of /usr/bin/sftp or w/e
[17:16] <hitsujiTMO> Mendigaum: yes it seems apache 2.4 expects environment vars to be present even if you're just checking the version
[17:16] <lmat> bean__: which sftp returns /usr/bin/sftp
[17:16] <chaotic_good> ok how do I vpn
[17:16] <lmat> bean__: oh...that's the client anyway.
[17:16] <bean__> lmat: right, yep, you want the sftp-server
[17:17] <chaotic_good> pptp windows server provides vpn
[17:17] <lmat> bean__: Are you talking about the modifications to sshd_config ? I was wondering why it says 'internal-sftp'
[17:17] <Mendigaum> hitsujiTMO, anyway, my problem is already solved. I just sent you that so you can see what ppl might ask here.
[17:17] <Mendigaum> hitsujiTMO, thanks a lot.
[17:17] <bean__> lmat: yeah, I don't think its internal-sftp on ubuntu. Its /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server
[17:18] <lmat> bean__: okay :) That's what it said before.
[17:18] <bean__> yar, sorry for that
[17:18] <lmat> bean__: Well, some good news: steve can sftp (I think the only change was setting his shell to bash rather than ssh).
[17:18] <bean__> :)
[17:18] <bean__> good
[17:19] <lmat> bean__: And when I change it to rssh or sftp, no good.
[17:19] <bean__> that makes sense
[17:19] <bean__> those aren't really shells
[17:19] <bean__> they're other programs
[17:19] <lmat> bean__: oh :(
[17:20] <bean__> you could change the shell to /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server
[17:20] <bean__> i think
[17:20] <lmat> bean__: I'll give it a shot.
[17:21] <lmat> bean__: That worked very well :)
[17:21] <bean__> good.
[17:21] <lmat> bean__: So, now steve can't scp, right ?
[17:21] <bean__> I don't think so.
[17:21] <bean__> just sftp
[17:21] <lmat> bean__: hey !! http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/rssh.1.html
[17:21] <lmat> bean__: rssh is for scp and/or sftp
[17:22] <bean__> hmm, feel free to use that if you want
[17:22] <bean__> I never have
[17:22] <lmat> bean__: I tried, but it didn't work.  "And when I change it to rssh or sftp, no good."
[17:22] <bean__> lmat: i think rssh requires some more setup, and I've never done it
[17:23] <lmat> bean__: okay. You've been tremendous help already :)
[17:25] <srini> hi
[17:25] <srini> anyone there
[17:26] <srini> i need some help with regards to this git-svn info
[17:28] <Paddy_NI> I have two rather annoying issues with my new 13.10 installation. My keyboard layout seems to change of it's own volition to the US when I return to it after it has locked the screen. Secondly Facebook chat does not work with Empathy, I get the following message "Facebook account requires authorisation". I have searched for a solution but to no avail...
[17:30] <lmat> Paddy_NI: alt+shift changes the keyboard layout ? What layout do you want ?
[17:30] <fedeisas> hi guys! How can I make /var/www writable and readable for two users (www-data and my deploy user). I'm building an automated deploy process, and it's driving me nuts!
[17:31] <Paddy_NI> lmat, I only require one layout (English UK)
[17:32] <lmat> Paddy_NI: Oh, and it installs another one behind your back ? Incredible.
[17:32] <Paddy_NI> lmat, I removed English US from the "Text Entry" list and still it persists
[17:32] <Paddy_NI> lmat, No it still thinks its English UK
[17:32] <lmat> Paddy_NI: I'm not sure what "Text Entry" list you're talking about. When logged in, I see a little picture of a keyboard on the top panel (where the time is); do you see that ?
[17:32] <gimmic> is there a way to check version similar to rhel flavors with cat?
[17:32] <Paddy_NI> Although it changes keys to what normally would be english us
[17:32] <lmat> Paddy_NI: So it's lying. Gotcha.
[17:33] <gimmic> like cat /etc/redhat-release. I'm aware of lsb_release -a
[17:33] <OerHeks> fedeisas, add your user to www-data too
[17:33] <mojtaba> I am trying to delete old kernels with ubuntu tweak. but it is crashing. I am using dell studio 1555 ubuntu 13.10. Does anybody know what should I do?
[17:33] <Paddy_NI> lmat, I don't use that indicator I disabled it. Text Entry can be found in system settings
[17:33] <fedeisas> OerHeks I did, but it doesn't works..
[17:33] <OerHeks> gimmic, cat /etc/issue
[17:33] <A_Paternoster> Hallo Ubuntu World :) I've a question :)
[17:33] <A_Paternoster> about MIR
[17:34] <mojtaba> I am trying to delete old kernels with ubuntu tweak. but it is crashing. I am using dell studio 1555 ubuntu 13.10. Does anybody know what should I do?
[17:34] <gimmic> Thank you, OerHeks
[17:34] <lmat> Paddy_NI: I don't have it. I'm on 12.04...perhaps that's the difference. I go to system settings -> keyboard layout -> Language tab
[17:34] <hitsujiTMO> fedeisas: you need to relog after you add yourself to www-data group
[17:34] <Paddy_NI> lmat, ah :-)
[17:34] <rosco_y> I just upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10.  Is there a list of post-upgrade tasks that could be done?
[17:34] <OerHeks> hitsujiTMO +1
[17:35] <A_Paternoster> I would like to install MIR but I don't know if it's it a good idea . . . Anyone can help me ?
[17:35] <rosco_y> How can I look at the upgrade log?
[17:35] <einjelos> ciao la?
[17:35] <fedeisas> hitsujiTMO OerHeks deploy      x  1002   1002 /home/deploy        /bin/bash          deploy www-data
[17:35] <einjelos> anybody know about difference between using lxde and using openbox?
[17:35] <fedeisas> it belongs to both groups
[17:35] <davividal> hi. I'm using LDAP on my network, among other things, it manages my sudoers files. On my (personal) workstation I want to use LDAP and files for sudoers. That's what I've put on my /etc/nsswitch.conf: sudoers: ldap files , and here is my /etc/sudoers.d/redmine_gitolite: redmine ALL=(git) NOPASSWD:ALL
[17:36] <davividal> but whenever I try to sudo -u git -i ls it keeps asking my password. How can I debug what's going on?
[17:36] <rosco_y> What is MIR?
[17:36] <einjelos> i installed lxde on my crunchbang and really i want to switch back to just using the openbox environ
[17:36] <rosco_y> A_Paternoster: what is MIR?
[17:36] <lmat> rosco_y: It is salvation for Ubuntu...
[17:36] <chaotic_good> do I have to basically install GNOME in order to get VPN going to a microsoft pptp vpn?
[17:36] <rosco_y> lmat: 13.10?
[17:36] <lmat> rosco_y: Any version I guess. It's an X replacement. Google will help you from there :)
[17:36] <lmat> rosco_y: Or perhaps it's a wayland replacement ... gwa ha ha ha
[17:37] <einjelos> i figured #! is related to ubuntu, and ubuntu people are friendlier than in the crunchbang rooms
[17:37] <einjelos> anybody know how to switch back?
[17:37] <A_Paternoster> rosco_y,  it is a graphic server for Ubuntu . . . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_(software)
[17:37] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: What does "[Gear Icon] > System Settings... > Region & Language > System" show as the system and user settings?
[17:37] <rosco_y> A_Paternoster, lmat--thank you, I was just wondering
[17:37] <hitsujiTMO> chaotic_good: no
[17:38] <hitsujiTMO> chaotic_good: what de are you using?
[17:38] <rosco_y> I just upgraded to 13.10, how can I look at the upgrade log?
[17:39] <lmat> bean__: my freaking goodness
[17:39] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, there is no "Region and Language" however there is a "Language Support" which is set to English UK
[17:39] <lmat> bean__: I just removed "chrootpath = /home/steve" from /etc/rssh.conf. Freaking crap!
[17:39] <m3kk> Is there anyone else got crash when trying to view "propitary drivers" in settings after update?
[17:40] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: You said that was 13.10, is that correct?
[17:40] <m3kk> /usr/bin/software-properties-gtk
[17:40] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, Spot on
[17:40] <docdriza> I am having a weird networking issue
[17:40] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: "Region & Language" should be 2 icons further on, after "Language Support"
[17:41] <docdriza> I recently upgraded a Virtual Ubuntu 10.04 to 12.04. for some reason i am now not able to ping my gateway or go out to the internet
[17:41] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: Between "Online Accounts" and "Security and Privacy"
[17:41] <docdriza> I have looked through a number of forums, and tried a number of things but I still cant get this thing wto work.
[17:41] <docdriza> is there anyone that can help me out?
[17:42] <TJ-> docdriza: Is it a server or desktop install? Is it using NetworkManager or manual editing of "/etc/network/interfaces" ?
[17:42] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, http://imgbin.org/images/15394.png
[17:42] <docdriza> it is a desktop install
[17:42] <mojtaba>  am trying to delete old kernels with ubuntu tweak. but it is crashing. I am using dell studio 1555 ubuntu 13.10. Does anybody know what should I do?
[17:43] <chaotic_good> I am on iceWM
[17:43] <docdriza> Oh i have the /etc/network/interfaces manually configured
[17:43] <chaotic_good> but need to use work vpn
[17:43] <chaotic_good> microsoft pptp
[17:43] <apb> things are moving slow on my 12.04 machine... someone looking into an application problem for me tells me that dbus is the culprit "some dbus calls are slow, others just timeout".
[17:43] <apb> Any  useful suggestions?
[17:43] <docdriza> TJ-: i have the /etc/network/interfaces manually configured and it is a desktop install
[17:44] <chaotic_good> recode the app in common lisp
[17:44] <apb> this is a system problem, not an application problem
[17:45] <notyard404> docdriza: what have you done so far?
[17:46] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: Comparing your screenshot to a fresh 13.10 install here, they are different and yours is missing "Region & Language" but has "Text Entry" which is a sub-menu of "Region & Language" here. Was that system upgraded from 13.04?
[17:46] <hitsujiTMO> chaotic_good: have a look at pptp-linux
[17:46] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, Fresh install
[17:46] <Paddy_NI> And now my layout is back to the way it should be
[17:46] <trism> TJ-: are you using gnome-shell? I see the Region & Language with: XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=GNOME gnome-control-center; but not in unity
[17:46] <Paddy_NI> This will not last however
[17:47] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, That is strange.. I verified the media too
[17:47] <mojtaba> Does anybody know why ubuntu tweak is carshing? (after upgrading to 13.10)
[17:47] <TJ-> docdriza: Can you pastebin the results of "echo $(ifconfig && ip route ls && cat /etc/network/interfaces)" ?
[17:47] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, I wonder what the package name is; perhaps I can install it
[17:47] <mojtaba> hello?
[17:48] <TJ-> trism: No, it's a regular 13.10 desktop install
[17:48] <docdriza> TJ-: standby
[17:48] <mojtaba> Is there any other alternative to ubuntu tweak janitor?
[17:48] <JoelNYdahl> Hello, do anyone have time to help me? i get errno 30 while installing ubuntu
[17:49] <trism> TJ-: strange, mine is an upgrade so it could be wonky but I see exactly the same thing Paddy_NI sees in his screenshot
[17:49] <Paddy_NI> Heh.. any keyboard issues trism ? or are you already using the US layout
[17:49] <steve|m> has anybody noticed that the netboot-image doesn't work with predictable interface names? my nic is detected as p5p1 and the automatic network configuration won't work, no connectivity at all
[17:50] <JoelNYdahl> Hello, do anyone have time to help me? i get errno 30 while installing ubuntu
[17:51] <trism> Paddy_NI: nope no keyboard issues here, but yes I'm already using the us layout anyway
[17:51] <TJ-> trism: Paddy_NI: That was why I asked, since it sounds almost like the 13.04 "Keyboard Layout" applet - the icon is identical to the "Text Entry" icon on 13.10
[17:51] <docdriza> TJ-:  no, becasue I am getting to this VM through Microsofts Virtaual Machine Manager Console, and I am not able to copy and paste the text
[17:51] <Paddy_NI> Ah then my issue is that it wont remain on the UK layout
[17:51] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: Have you deleted the US layout?
[17:51] <Paddy_NI> If I was to lubricate the usb port with Crème fraîche would that perhaps get things moving?
[17:52] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, Yes I have
[17:52] <docdriza> TJ-: I would only be able to take a screenshot
[17:52] <TJ-> docdriza: you could redirect the output to a file, then upload that to pastebin
[17:53] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: Then something is *very* weird then!
[17:53] <docdriza> because i cannot ssh to the box, I cant pull the file either.
[17:53] <docdriza> TJ-: because i cannot ssh to the box, I cant pull the file either.
[17:53] <TJ-> docdriza: USB key? or is it remote?
[17:53] <Paddy_NI> Yes perhaps I did not initially use ENOUGH Crème fraîche!
[17:53] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: :P ... unfortunately I have to go drive now so I can't help you further
[17:53] <hitsujiTMO> Paddy_NI: one thing to try: add the US kb layout, then remove it again
[17:54] <lmat> I'm using rssh for a shell. in rssh.conf, I have allowscp, allowsftp and  user=steve:777:111111:/mnt/share. steve is running the following: sftp -v -P $(<bukavuport) steve@$(<churchip):/Public/hey   (/Public/hey is a file within /mnt/share). It does not succeed: http://sprunge.us/ZTaS
[17:54] <docdriza> TJ-: it is a VM, and I have no idea where the host is located.
[17:54] <Paddy_NI> hitsujiTMO, Yeah I was thinking that very thing
[17:54] <docdriza> TJ-: sorry to make this difficult on you
[17:54] <TJ-> docdriza: OK :(
[17:54] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, no worries mate thanks for your time :-)
[17:54] <lmat> Oh yeah, passwd line for this guy is  steve:x:1006:1006:steve,home,,,I'm steve.:/home/steve:/usr/bin/rssh
[17:55] <iceroot> is there a way to use something like a "trim-function" on all text-contents i am putting in my buffer (ctrl +v) so that all whitespaces at the start and end will be removed?
[17:55] <lmat> I can't figure out what I'm missing :(
[17:55] <trism> Paddy_NI: how about bug 1240198
[17:55] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: The reason I asked about the "System" tab was it shows the system and user preferences, and it made me wonder if 'system' is defaulting to US and when the user session unlocks it doesn't reapply the UK settings
[17:55] <prototrout> Is there a way, when installing a related group of packages, to "name" the group? (So I can later rempve them all at once without needing to remember the whole list)?
[17:55] <lmat> I guess I should post this in stack exchange...
[17:56] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, Yeah I totally get where your coming from.. sadly the computer is not getting where I am coming from :-P
[17:56] <dannymichel> Right now i have everything backed up using 'Back in Time" and I'm running Mint. Would I be able to smoothly transition from Mint to Ubuntu with the backups I have in Back in Time? I mean apache configuration, apps, etc. as well. Not just /home stuff.
[17:56] <iceroot> dannymichel: no
[17:56] <iceroot> dannymichel: because they may use different versions and then the conf-files dont match to the used version
[17:56] <TJ-> trism: Paddy_NI: Yes, that bug was affecting me whilst I was chroot-ing a 13.10 system earlier, I got real mad with the locale indicating US when everything was working with GB, but changes weren't taking
[17:56] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: good luck with that :)
[17:57] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, I'm sure Ill get it
[17:57] <docdriza> TJ-: I love greenshot http://i.imgur.com/WYdqcDQ.png
[17:59] <ddssc_> what's the easiest way to install windows from ubuntu machine? I want to have dual boot but I hear windows will overwrite grub.
[17:59] <rodger_nc> I am running 13.10 and need to install the Nvidia drivers from Nvidia.  Any directions on how to do this?  I have a GeForce 6150SE nForce 430
[18:00] <rodger_nc> I am currently up and running but on a vesa default
[18:00] <rodger_nc> when I updated to 13.10 I got a snow screen
[18:01] <rodger_nc> couldn't do anything
[18:01] <ddssc_> is this good advice for installing windows after ubuntu? http://askubuntu.com/questions/6317/how-can-i-install-windows-7-after-ive-installed-ubuntu/158319#158319
[18:02] <bean__> ddssc_: that would likely work.
[18:02] <bcurtiswx> anyone figure out how to completely quit empathy. I seem to use the menu to quit empathy, but i still receive messages
[18:02] <bean__> boot-repair can be a bit magical.
[18:02] <docdriza> is there anyone that can help me out?
[18:02] <bcurtiswx> is it directly tied to my status in the messaging menu ?
[18:02] <bcurtiswx> do i need to be "offline" ?
[18:03] <docdriza> I am having a weird networking issue
[18:04] <bean__> !ask | docdriza
[18:05] <bcurtiswx> yup, for future referebce, to completely quit empathy, you need to set your status to offline in the messaging menu
[18:05] <ddssc_> what's the best rapair utility for ubuntu? In case the system gets fubar'd and you got no proper backup?
[18:06] <bean__> ddssc_: the best repair tool is to have backups :)
[18:06] <ddssc_> bean__: "and you got no proper backup?"
[18:07] <docdriza> I recently upgraded a Virtual Ubuntu 10.04 to 12.04. for some reason i am now not able to ping my gateway or go out to the internet i have the /etc/network/interfaces manually configured and it is a desktop install here is a result of a command if you need some kind of reference http://i.imgur.com/WYdqcDQ.png
[18:07] <ddssc_> for example I had ubuntu and I only got sw backup, ie. list of installed software and configs( I imagine) . now it died for no apparent reason, black screen, dead. looking for a way to repair it off the boot-cd .
[18:08] <bean__> ddssc_: you could try boot-repair, but it could be any number of things that are actually wrong
[18:09] <ddssc_> bean__: I ran disk diagnostics , everything is ok. it's probaly kernel issue since it fubar'd with "kernel bug" bsod.
[18:09] <bean__> ddssc_: do you have an actual error message anywhere?
[18:10] <ddssc_> bean__: it's my other machine.. but tehre's a kernel log with details, I already posted it here once tho, noone had any idea what happened.  :/
[18:11] <bean__> ddssc_: hmm, have you tried booting it with an earlier kernel?
[18:11] <ddssc_> nope
[18:11] <bean__> i'd give that a try.
[18:11] <ddssc_> dont have much experience with ubuntu dieing...
[18:11] <ddssc_> I was under impression that was more a windows thing :p
[18:12] <bean__> haha, ddssc_ you'd be surprised :) computers a weird sometimes.
[18:12] <S4nD3r> 13.10 is not working with nvidia optimus gt540M
[18:12] <bean__> ddssc_: anyways, what version of ubuntu is it on?
[18:12] <bcurtiswx> ddssc_, windows doesn't have half the awesome community of people we do :) although breaking happens in all OS's
[18:12] <hydruid> Am I the only one who pretends to type at a shell prompt for 1/2 a day on Friday?
[18:12] <ddssc_> 12.10 me hinks .. could be 13.04 I forgot
[18:12] <bean__> hydruid: thats a bit off topic, but yeah.
[18:13] <bean__> ddssc_: alright, so probably something with Grub2, so you likely need to hold down shift when its booting to get the old kernels, etc to show.
[18:13] <ddssc_> hydruid: I got some horrendous sh script open in vim on my big monitor, it drives people away.
[18:13] <ddssc_> bean__: right, hold down shift....
[18:14] <ddssc_> so which kernels can I run ?
[18:14] <bcurtiswx> haha, my favorite thing to do is open a bin file in vim and act completely confused and thinking hard
[18:14] <ddssc_> ^^
[18:14] <dannymichel> Right now i have everything backed up using 'Back in Time" and I'm running Mint. Would I be able to smoothly transition from Mint to Ubuntu with the backups I have in Back in Time? I mean apache configuration, apps, etc. as well. Not just /home stuff.
[18:14] <ddssc_> yeah, real hackers only do hex
[18:14] <docdriza> has anyone had any issues with networking when upgrading Ubuntu from 10.04 to 12.04 using the do-release-upgrade command?
[18:14] <bean__> ddssc_: I'd just pick anything earlier than the "most recent" and see if it boots.
[18:15] <bean__> docdriza: what is the exact problem? networking just doesn't work?
[18:15] <ddssc_> bean__: didnt know there was such an option heh...
[18:15] <bean__> :)
[18:15] <docdriza> bean__: I recently upgraded a Virtual Ubuntu 10.04 to 12.04. for some reason i am now not able to ping my gateway or go out to the internet i have the /etc/network/interfaces manually configured and it is a desktop install here is a result of a command if you need some kind of reference http://i.imgur.com/WYdqcDQ.png
[18:15] <antithesis> dannymichel the people in Mint's support channel might be able to answer that question better, since they know what they've modified in Ubuntu
[18:16] <designbybeck> 13.10 64bit on  Dell Precision desktop goes to sleep and doesn't wake up
[18:16] <hydruid> docdriza: try changing your netmask to 255.255.0.0
[18:16] <dannymichel> Wont they just flame me for wanting to move to Ubuntu antithesis ?
[18:16] <bean__> hydruid: docdriza that shouldn't matter though, its a /24
[18:16] <john_doe_jr> I want to search for a string ".setDate" in a directory recursively using grep?
[18:16] <john_doe_jr> how do I do that?
[18:17] <bean__> docdriza: what was the error when pinging the gateway?
[18:17] <bean__> host unreachable, or?
[18:17] <hydruid> bean__: look at the first name server, I bet that is his problem
[18:17] <antithesis> dannymichel lawl
[18:17] <antithesis> iunno they seem p friendly to me
[18:17] <dannymichel> im pretty sure that's what would happen antithesis
[18:17] <bean__> hydruid: he can't ping his gateway -- the dns server has nothing to do with it at this point.
[18:17] <antithesis> From the few experience I have with them
[18:17] <docdriza> bean__: destination host unavailable
[18:17] <hydruid> bean__: how many 172.16.0.0/24's have you seen? lol
[18:17] <antithesis> dannymichel if that happens, just say lel
[18:18] <Octopus_> where to donwload old opera 12 skins?  Thank!
[18:18] <bean__> hydruid: valid point, usually 172.16 is a /20 block… I think
[18:18] <lmat> Okay, I made a stack exchange ticket showing all the information :) http://askubuntu.com/questions/361263
[18:18] <SchrodingersScat> john_doe_jr: would that be grep -r -a ".setDate"
[18:18] <LuxuryMode> If i have the url of some ppa, how do i add that repo?
[18:18] <hydruid> bean__: usually it's a /16
[18:18] <CHA0> How can i search for new channels?
[18:18] <antithesis> Really, in my experience they are more friendly than the people in here
[18:18] <Paddy_NI> !ppa | LuxuryMode
[18:18] <zykotick9> !alis | CHA0
[18:18] <hydruid> docdriza: why are you setting it as static? did DHCP not work?
[18:19] <bean__> hydruid: maybe he doesn't run DHCP :)
[18:19] <Paddy_NI> !addppa > LuxuryMode
[18:19] <costin_> hi
[18:19] <docdriza> bean__: hydruid it needs to be static, becuase I am in a corporate environment. and we are using this like a server
[18:19]  * bean__ figured.
[18:19] <LuxuryMode> thanks Paddy_NI
[18:19] <bean__> docdriza: and it's /etc/network/interfaces didn't change during the upgrade?
[18:19] <hydruid> bean__: I would prefer that he answer for himself, ty
[18:19] <bean__> he just did.
[18:20] <Paddy_NI> Does anyone know where the .desktop files for "unity web apps" are located in the filesystem?
[18:20] <john_doe_jr> SchrodingersScat: thank you that worked
[18:20] <docdriza> hydruid: I never looked at it before the upgrade. I didnt think it was going to be affected
[18:20] <antithesis> Paddy_NI try locate?
[18:20] <docdriza> hydruid: I didnt set up the original box either
[18:20] <trism> john_doe_jr: grep -nHR '\.setDate' directory/;
[18:20] <antithesis> locate facebook.desktop? iunno
[18:20] <Paddy_NI> antithesis, I can never figure out how to use locate
[18:21] <bean__> docdriza: are there any other working machines on the network that you could at least "ifconfig -a" on?
[18:21] <hydruid> docdriza: try this command, "ifconfig -a" , is there a listing for eth0 or eth2?
[18:21] <hydruid> docdriza: basically any eth besides eth1
[18:21] <antithesis> Paddy_NI what I just said was an example command
[18:21] <antithesis> It's really that simple
[18:21] <antithesis> Just do sudo updatedb first
[18:22] <mustmodify> confused... what permissions do I need on a pem file at ~/.ssh/amazon.pem to be able to use it with SSH? I tried 006 and apparently I can't even cat it with those permissions.
[18:22] <Paddy_NI> antithesis, Yeah I know how to do that but what actually happens is a never ending stream of directories and files list in the terminal to almost no end
[18:22] <docdriza> just eth1
[18:22] <Paddy_NI> antithesis, I have to press ctrl+c to get it to cease
[18:22] <docdriza> hydruid: bean__ just eth 1
[18:22] <antithesis> Paddy_NI that means you need to refine your search
[18:23] <hydruid> docdriza: it would be best to confirm your IP settings to make sure you're in the correct subnet
[18:23] <CHA0> Thanks, ubottu and zykotick9
[18:24] <hydruid> docdriza: usually when I see a 172.16.0.0/24 there are vlan's involved or something is setup incorrectly
[18:24] <Paddy_NI> antithesis, I don't think it's possible to refine it any more without making the use of "locate" redundant
[18:25] <trism> Paddy_NI: from a couple quick searches it looks like they are all just in /usr/share/applications
[18:25] <antithesis> Paddy_NI locate -i facebook.desktop gives you an endless stream of output?
[18:25] <lenzeor> Anybody who is up to help me fix my Ubuntu install? I upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10; however, when I boot into the 3.11 kernel I get nothing but a blank screen. What can I do?
[18:25] <hydruid> lenzeor: reboot, and choose the previous kernel :P
[18:26] <docdriza> hydruid: im pretty sure the IP setting are corect there is a DNS entry on the network for a specific host name, and when i do a ping -a from my windows box I get the IP address you say in the screenshot
[18:26] <lenzeor> hydruid, yeah, that's a temporary solution :) looking for long-term though
[18:26] <Paddy_NI> antithesis, That actually gives me nothing :-P
[18:26] <Paddy_NI> trism, Thanks
[18:26] <hydruid> hydruid: on your windows box is your subnet mask 255.255.255.0 or 255.255.0.0
[18:27] <Paddy_NI> antithesis, I'll have another go at locate once I finish the task at hand
[18:27] <Paddy_NI> Thank you
[18:27] <hydruid> lenzeor: yes, then install a newer kernel or slightly older.....experiment
[18:27] <CHA0> Fresh install, lenzer
[18:28] <lenzeor> CHA0 hydruid is there nothing I can do from the recovery console?
[18:28] <antithesis> Paddy_NI what're the files called?
[18:28] <hydruid> lenzeor: you a kernel debugging master?
[18:28] <lenzeor> No, but maybe it's not kernel-specific
[18:28] <antithesis> The facebook one, for example
[18:29] <chaotic_good> uh
[18:29] <hydruid> lenzeor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/BlankScreen
[18:29] <chaotic_good> why does my i7 cpu appear as 8x80mhz cpu?
[18:29] <chaotic_good> its supposed to be 2.4ghz
[18:29] <Paddy_NI> antithesis, That is part of the problem
[18:30] <Paddy_NI> antithesis, I have no idea, I only see what the .desktop files label is
[18:30] <hydruid> docdriza: another option would be to switch over to DHCP momentarily to see if it can pull an address, that is if you have DHCP in your network
[18:30] <lenzeor> okok off for a non-graphical boot, thanks hydruid
[18:30] <Paddy_NI> antithesis, as in the name that will be used in the application launcher.. I guess I could install alacarte and save myself a headache
[18:31] <hydruid> docdriza: just because you can ping an IP that you assigned to an Ubuntu server, doesn't mean there isn't an IP conflict or routing issue or vlan issue.........trial and error and make sure the data you're working with is valid
[18:31] <Unkown> hi
[18:32] <linuxlite1991> longtime no see
[18:32] <antithesis> No Paddy_NI don't give up on doing things through the command line
[18:32] <docdriza> hydruid: would an upgrade like this cause the IP confict or routing issue?
[18:32] <antithesis> Paddy_NI it's a bit of a nuisance now and then, but ultimately, it'll make you a GNU/Linux master. :)
[18:32] <Paddy_NI> antithesis, I I am totally with you, however I don't have the time I used to
[18:33] <hydruid> docdriza: an upgrade would cause neither....
[18:34] <hydruid> docdriza: did this server already have this exact same entwork config? did you compare the subnet info to a known working server or pc?
[18:34] <hitsujiTMO> chaotic_good: your cpu clocks down under light load
[18:34] <hydruid> docdriza: or do you only want to give vague details to see if we can randomly guess what is wrong?
[18:34] <chaotic_good> ah
[18:35] <chaotic_good> ha!!
[18:35] <chaotic_good> is that it?
[18:35] <chaotic_good> I had just said that to my pal
[18:35] <docdriza> hydruid: im not trying to play any games, I did the in place upgrade using the do-release-upgrade command
[18:35] <bean__> chaotic_good: most likely :) either that or it'll slow down if it gets too hot
[18:35] <hydruid> docdriza: good luck, you haven't answered any of my questions
[18:35] <chaotic_good> so cmon who can help me get vpn going? need to talk to microcrap pptp
[18:35] <mojtaba> Hi, I am trying to delete old kernels with ubuntu tweak. but it gave scan error. Does anybody know what should I do? (dell studio 1555, ubuntu 13.10)
[18:35] <hitsujiTMO> chaotic_good: cat /proc/cpuinfo    tells you your actual cpu info
[18:35] <chaotic_good> right
[18:35] <chaotic_good> some times it shows 8x800mhz
[18:35] <chaotic_good> soemtimes 2x200mhz and 6x 800
[18:36] <chaotic_good> freeky
[18:36] <chaotic_good> so about vpn......
[18:36] <hydruid> chaotic_good: I forget what they call it, but your CPU is "green".....it steps itself down when not needed to converse power and etc.
[18:36] <docdriza> hydruid: im not trying to give vague details there is another Kali linux bot on the same subnet that is working
[18:36] <Unkown> Hay Im GOnna Hack
[18:36] <docdriza> box*
[18:36] <hitsujiTMO> chaotic_good: did you install pptp-linux ?
[18:36] <Unkown> no
[18:36] <hydruid> docdriza: the netmask/subnet match?
[18:36] <docdriza> yes
[18:37] <Paddy_NI> antithesis, Okay so what sent me wrong with the search was the case sensitivity no doubt "GoogleCalendar" :-)
[18:37] <hydruid> docdriza: do you have DHCP in your environment?
[18:37] <hitsujiTMO> chaotic_good: hydruid: intel speedstep
[18:37] <docdriza> hydruid: I am new to my company so it is taking me a little more time to get you your answers. I am looking into DHCP
[18:37] <hydruid> hitsujiTMO: TY!
[18:37] <Paddy_NI> trism, You where spot on by the way, thank you very much :-)
[18:38] <hydruid> docdriza: remove the static IP's and set it to DHCP, see if it can pull an IP or not
[18:38] <Platz> has anyone run into this warning when starting vim in ubuntu after upgrading to 13.10? http://askubuntu.com/questions/361180/gvim-glib-gobject-warning-in-ubuntu-13-10
[18:38] <mojtaba> Hi, I am trying to delete old kernels with ubuntu tweak. but it gave scan error. Does anybody know what should I do? (dell studio 1555, ubuntu 13.10)
[18:38] <nightdrever> In additional drivers im on nvidia accelerated driver (version 304)  but version 319-updates is avaliable, how do i install this......a few months ago i tried by just deselecting version 304 and installing other one but then my pc wouldnt start and i need to reinstall linux......how do i do it safetly so this doesnt happen?....thanks
[18:40] <moppy> mojtaba: you could manually delete old kernels - I htink from memory they will be in /boot and /lib/modules. Long as you don't delete the current one, should be fine
[18:40] <hitsujiTMO> mojtaba: delete them manually    ... whats the output of: uname -r      and: dpkg --get-selections | grep "linux-image"
[18:41] <OerHeks> moppy current and the one before that (recovery)
[18:41] <fabio_> !list
[18:41] <fabio_> ciao
[18:41] <fabio_> !list
[18:42] <moppy> OerHeks: I accept what you say makes sense, but I don't have recovery on mine.
[18:42] <moppy> OerHeks: So you are right, I just forget people have recovery ones
[18:42] <Paddy_NI> hitsujiTMO, I wonder if it is possible for me to change Roots keyboard settings?
[18:43] <fabio_> ciao
[18:43] <fabio_> !list
[18:43] <hitsujiTMO> Paddy_NI: i would have a look at /etc/default/keyboard   maybe
[18:43] <DJones> !piracy | fabio_
[18:43] <Paddy_NI> hitsujiTMO, Ha :-)
[18:44] <Platz> What does this mean ? -> gvim:4054): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: Attempt to add property GnomeProgram::sm-connect after class was initialised
[18:44] <OerHeks> mojtaba, so try again, and hold the current kernel + previous one
[18:44] <Paddy_NI> hitsujiTMO, does this look roughly normal http://paste.ubuntu.com/6259074/
[18:44] <chaotic_good> pptp-linux  ??
[18:45] <hitsujiTMO> Paddy_NI: yes that seems correct
[18:45] <docdriza> hydruid: The DHCP config does not work, So i can only assume that there is not DHCP on this network.
[18:45] <chaotic_good> pptp-linux ??
[18:45] <chaotic_good> ok
[18:45] <Brutusss> Hi, I upgrade my 13.04 to 13.10 and don't have any network. When I do ifconfig I can only see lo and not eth1. I can see a wired connection when I check network options. I have DHCP on my network available.
[18:46] <hydruid> docdriza: you don't need to assume, you need to check with a confirmed good laptop
[18:46] <Brutusss> I can't go online on that machine anymore. was fine untill I rebooted after the upgrade
[18:46] <hydruid> docdriza: it's possible that the NIC drivers are messed up, but you need to unplug the cable from the broken server and plug it into a laptop to see what your results are
[18:47] <docdriza> hydruid: ths is a VM
[18:47] <hitsujiTMO> chaotic_good: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN#VPN_setup_using_the_command_line
[18:47] <hydruid> docdriza: what type of Hypervisor?
[18:47] <Paddy_NI> hitsujiTMO, I noticed that when I lock the screen so that it displays a password prompt when someone activates the mouse/keyboard, that there is an "en" next to the text entry field (to the right) when I click on this is changes to "en2" (small 2) however in my session there is only one language choice available
[18:47] <docdriza> hydruid: no clue, where would i get that info?
[18:48] <hydruid> docdriza: what platform is the VM on? Vmware, Xen, Virtualbox?
[18:48] <hydruid> docdriza: hyper-v?
[18:48] <docdriza> hydruid: its Hyper-V
[18:48] <hydruid> docdriza: is it a regular nic or a legacy?
[18:48] <hydruid> docdriza: what you have in the VM settings?
[18:48] <hitsujiTMO> Paddy_NI: its a really weird issue ... i had the same thing but after the first restart i removed 'us' and had no problems ...
[18:48] <thy_> ood evening gentlemen
[18:49] <xbmc> hi, how can i get Remote Control without login
[18:49] <sam113101> good afternoon
[18:49] <Paddy_NI> Okay hitsujiTMO  I'm going to restart again and hope for the best :-) many many thanks
[18:49] <Morkel> Hi, is it possible to make a full disk encryption on a server and load the key from a tpm module on the board? Its not possible to enter a password but i want that the thief can not use the stolen disk
[18:49] <Brutusss> Hi, I upgrade my 13.04 to 13.10 and don't have any network. When I do ifconfig I can only see lo and not eth1.
[18:49] <hydruid> docdriza: it will say network adapter or legacy network adapter
[18:49] <Brutusss> was working fine yesterday before the upgrade
[18:49] <docdriza> hydruid: in the Hardware config settings, it says Legacy Network Adapter
[18:50] <docdriza> hydruid: took me some time to get to it.
[18:50] <hydruid> docdriza: power it off, remove the legacy network adapter, and add a network adapter
[18:50] <chaotic_good> http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/howto-ubuntu.phtml so this for pptp
[18:50] <jeroen-> Updated to 13.10 and now during boot Ubuntu does nothing for a minute and than it continues. In the logs I reas something about nptd. Help?
[18:50] <docdriza> hydruid: ok
[18:50] <jeroen-> Help!
[18:50] <hydruid> docdriza: they probably used the legacy adapter for compatibility with 10.04
[18:50] <Reacto> Why does using dual monitors work so badly in ubuntu?
[18:51] <Reacto> sometimes you have to try like 5 times to get the mouse over to another monitor
[18:51] <jamesbong> howdy, i have /tmp on my 2nd hdd as well as an empty /srv partition, now i want to move /tmp to be just a subfolder of / (1st hdd) and delete /srv which is empty anyways
[18:51] <hydruid> bean: did you run out of wind? lol
[18:51] <Thoams_> because vendors don't make drivers for linux boxes.
[18:51] <Thoams_> go figure.
[18:51] <xbmc> hi, how can i get Remote Deskto without need to login on ubuntu
[18:51] <jamesbong> coz i want the 2nd hdd to be empty for another os
[18:51] <hydruid> xbmc: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[18:51] <Reacto> it's so weird that it sometimes works really well, but sometimes it just gets stuck at the edge
[18:51] <docdriza> hydruid: While this powers off, I have a question. Do legacy adapters not work with newer version of Ubuntu?
[18:51] <xbmc> 13.10
[18:51] <xbmc> hydruid, 13.10
[18:52] <lenzeor> I cannot even boot into failsafe graphics mode. -_- is there a way to downgrade to 13.04 again?
[18:52] <Dwarf> lenzeor, what is your problem?
[18:52] <auronandace> lenzeor: downgrades are not supported, you'd need to fresh install
[18:52] <Arin> I am about to download 13.10. Should I go with 32 bit ot 64 bit on a laptop with a GT 540M nVidia Optimus card considering driver support, or does it not matter?
[18:52] <hydruid> docdriza: legacy network adapters are not designed to be used in production, it's more for older OS's or legacy stuff like PXE boot
[18:52] <hydruid> xbmc: at the logon screen it shoud say something like remote services
[18:52] <Dwarf> Arin, how much RAM?
[18:53] <homer> Arin, how much memory does the laptop have installed?
[18:53] <Dwarf> Also, Arin, I'm guessing it has a modern CPU so go with 64 bit
[18:53] <lenzeor> Dwarf, auronandace.  I upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10. When I try to boot into the new kernel, I get a blank screen (after the splash screen though).
[18:53] <hydruid> xbmc: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/09/ubuntu-12-10-login-screen-adds-remote-desktop-access
[18:53] <Arin> More that a 32 bit can make use of, not sure I believe, but doesn't remember. Will check.
[18:53] <auronandace> !nomodeset | lenzeor
[18:54] <cyberalex4life> hello!
[18:54] <Dwarf> lenzeor, can you change to a different tty?
[18:54] <lenzeor> auronandace, I'll try that.
[18:54] <Arin> 6GB, so 64 bit would be best, but support for Flash, drivers, and other software is no issue now?
[18:54] <lenzeor> Dwarf, that's Alt+F2 or F3 right?
[18:54] <Dwarf> Arin, to my knowledge it never was a problem
[18:54] <Dwarf> ctrl+alt+F2 or F3 or whatever
[18:55] <hydruid> Arin: you're thinking windows and x64 drivers
[18:55] <lenzeor> okay will try both and be back
[18:55] <homer> i upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10, the boot up time is now significantly longer than it was prior, is there a fix for this?
[18:55] <hydruid> docdriza: any luck?
[18:55] <jeroen-> Hanging during boot for a minute. Anyone/
[18:55] <jeroen-> ?
[18:55] <docdriza> hydruid: I was able to remove the old NIC, and add the new one, but I'm waiting for it to boot up.
[18:56] <hydruid> docdriza: gotcha, dont' be surprised if the NIC changes from eth1 to eth0 or eth2
[18:56] <Arin> No, I have had problems with software on 64 bit Linux earlier, so I have been sticking with 32 bit.
[18:56] <cyberalex4life> does anyone know any good fix for i7 cpu laptops to turbo boost properly?
[18:56] <docdriza> hydruid: yeah, not an issue. I have to configure the static IP address again.
[18:57] <Dwarf> cyberalex4life, latest kernels turbo boost correctly
[18:57] <cyberalex4life> well indicator-cpufreq doesn't show it
[18:57] <Dwarf> Unless you're on an ancient kernel turbo shouldn't be a problem
[18:57] <cyberalex4life> not in ubuntu 13.04
[18:57] <Dwarf> indicator-cpufreq doesn't show turboboost, it uses it's full potential in the background tho
[18:57] <cyberalex4life> not in 13.10
[18:58] <cyberalex4life> do you know some command to be sure?
[18:58] <Guest99344> 13.10 did Mir & Wayland replace xorg-server ?
[18:58] <Arin> I download the 64-bit version and give it a try :)
[18:59] <CorpusCallosum> hi guys i have a problem with vmware tools (vmware fusion). after update 12.04, somehow xorg is gone, ubuntu was openning in terminal mode. then i reinstall xorg. this time it is openning but vmware tools is not working. tried to reinstall vmware tools but didnot work. Any suggestion?
[18:59] <hydruid> Guest99344: no will have to wait for 14.04 probably
[18:59] <Dwarf> cyberalex4life, i saw it on some mailinglist, unsure about the commands
[18:59] <auronandace> Guest99344: mir has been postponed
[18:59] <Guest99344> Ohh ok.. just wondered..
[19:00] <cyberalex4life> I saw something like that sure
[19:00] <cyberalex4life> and I assure you that my i7 was not going over 2.301 GHz
[19:00] <cyberalex4life> on 13.04
[19:01] <auronandace> !rootirc | CorpusCallosum
[19:01] <guest-7756> I dont understand why you cant just blow away everything on the drive and create a new partition table when a table is lost like this. Doesnt make sense to me
[19:01] <tgm4883> Guest99344, I'm not sure why you think Mir AND Wayland would replace xorg-server in 13.10, but you can install XMir in 13.10 is you want
[19:02] <docdriza> ok hydruid It is only seeing the loopback interface i have to turn on the other interface somehow
[19:03] <bean__> docdriza: even with "ifconfig -a"
[19:04] <docdriza> bean__: hydruid eth0
[19:04] <mark4_> running ubuntu on a beagle board and i have no killall util
[19:04] <mark4_> where do i get killall?
[19:04] <bean__> docdriza: right so it didn't bring it up because it couldn't find it in /etc/network/interfaces
[19:04] <auronandace> !arm | mark4_
[19:05] <hydruid> docdriza: yes ifconfig -a to find eth0 and then change your /etc/network/interfaces settings from eth1 to eth0
[19:05] <bean__> so change your eth1's to eth0's in /etc/network/interfaces
[19:05] <bean__> :)
[19:06] <connorson> ...
[19:06] <connorson> Hi all
[19:06] <docdriza> bean__: hydruid I did that, then did service networking start and that did not work. I did restart, and that still is not working.
[19:06] <connorson> i need help
[19:07] <hydruid> docdriza: try /etc/init.d/networking stop then /etc/init.d/networking start
[19:07] <kenshiro> Hi, I used Gnome Classic Desktop in Ubuntu 13.04 (gnome-panel package) . After upgrade to Ubuntu 13.10, my Gnome Classic desktop is broken, up panel has no items, and it's not possible to add items again. Any fix for this?
[19:08] <kenshiro> I purged the package and reinstalled again, no luck
[19:08] <docdriza> none of that seems to be working
[19:09] <docdriza> hydruid: bean__ ^
[19:09] <connorson> Can anyone help me?
[19:09] <cgt> !details
[19:09] <hydruid> docdriza: when you do ifconfig does it list eth0
[19:09] <docdriza> nope
[19:09] <nightdrever> in additional drivers says driver is activated but not currently in use?
[19:09] <hydruid> docdriza: reboot
[19:09] <connorson> My problem is: While updating to 13.10 Distro Upgrade It crashed and now Unity is not loading a giving errors!
[19:09] <docdriza> hydruid: I was afraid you were going to say that...rebooting
[19:10] <hydruid> :P
[19:11] <homer> connorson, is it the low graphics mode failsafe error?
[19:11] <connorson> 'It crashed on configuring python or else, as i got nothing to backup i will format it :(
[19:11] <connorson> No Homer, Distro Upgade has crashed
[19:11] <connorson> Not Working at all
[19:11] <connorson> Just at Terminal and Chrome
[19:12] <homer> i would to try the upgrade several times yesterday before it actually started to upgrade
[19:12] <defaultro> hi folks, I have an off topic question. Who has experience with MX mail records?
[19:13] <fellayaboy> a
[19:13] <genii> defaultro: Probably a better question for #ubuntu-server
[19:13] <defaultro> cool
[19:13] <Zipzap> hey everyone
[19:14] <kenshiro> Any way of reset Gnome Flashback desktop to defaults in Ubuntu 13.10? (Broken after upgrade from Ubuntu 13.04)
[19:15] <docdriza> hydruid: that was it. thanks dude. I am able to ping google
[19:15] <hydruid> docdriza: 3 cheers
[19:15] <hydruid> bean___: booyah
[19:15] <hydruid> docdriza: glad you got it working, yea those damn legacy adapters are helpful in a pinch but a pain
[19:15] <docdriza> hydruid: thanks, I new there had to me something outside the system causing this
[19:16] <hydruid> docdriza: you're welcome
[19:16] <connorson> homer
[19:17] <docdriza> hydruid: I would buy you a beer if I could
[19:17] <hydruid> docdriza: woot free beer
[19:17] <hydruid> docdriza: are you in the USA?
[19:18] <docdriza> hydruid: yes
[19:18] <hydruid> docdriza: in oklahoma?
[19:18] <docdriza> nope
[19:18] <hydruid> docdriza: darn LOL, just glad to help mate
[19:19] <connorson> #homer i rebooted it and was having graphical glitches so i decied to reinstall! as im 12 i do get scared of it really easy :( Installation is working fine!
[19:19] <docdriza> hydruid: this is an awesome resource. better than the forums. that actually reminds me I have to update the question i had in the forum
[19:19] <davidkron> I have managed to build compile a c++ hello world proj, it says the file is executable, but nothing happens when i double click it and when i try to run it from the terminal it says "command not found"
[19:19] <hydruid> docdriza: I couldn't agree more, what is your question in the forums?
[19:19] <homer> good to hear connorson, i had to struggle with the upgrade for several hours
[19:19] <thy_> davidkron, : ./your_program
[19:20] <connorson> #homer I guess its a bug with Ubuntu 13.04 not the Upgrade Process???
[19:20] <davidkron> @thy_ THANKS
[19:21] <davidkron> @thy_ but how come i cant run it from the file manager?
[19:21] <hydruid> docdriza: or perhaps a link to the post?
[19:21] <connorson> Shall i do Erase Ubuntu 13.10/04 and reinstall?
[19:21] <homer> i would say so, my software updater would detect the upgrade but it would crash everytime, i had to end up using terminal commands to get the upgrade to actually work
[19:21] <thy_> chmod +x your_progrzm
[19:21] <connorson> #homer okay Erase Ubuntu 13.10 and reinstall??
[19:21] <homer> i would connorson just to be certain
[19:22] <homer> i am actually about to do the same thing
[19:22] <connorson> #homer Use LVM with new ubuntu installation?
[19:22] <docdriza> hydruid: http://askubuntu.com/questions/359476/wired-netoworking-will-not-start
[19:23] <cyberalex4life> Dwarf: sudo watch -n 1  cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq
[19:23] <hydruid> docdriza: nice, ty!
[19:23] <connorson> #homer i guess not because of Im not resizing the partition or taking Snapshots!
[19:23] <cyberalex4life> this command won't show over 2301000
[19:23] <homer> ok
[19:23] <docdriza> hydruid: np
[19:24] <cyberalex4life> i tried processor.ignore_ppc=1
[19:24] <cyberalex4life> in /etc/default/grub
[19:24] <davidkron> Anyone has experience with kdevelop?
[19:25] <przemek> hello guys how to check by this dd if=/dev/zero of=iotest bs=64k count=16k conv=fdatasync
[19:25] <przemek> e.g. disk /dev/sdc /dev/sdb
[19:25] <przemek> coz I see that this command check only /dev/sda
[19:25] <connorson> #homer Loggin in with Ubuntu one...
[19:25] <thy_> davidkron : try chmod +x your_program ?
[19:26] <cyberalex4life> can someone tell me this is wrong?
[19:27] <connorson> #homer flashing hdd icon?, Ubuntu one loggin Loading Wheel stoped...
[19:27] <connorson> stopped*
[19:27] <x0077BE> Hey, is there a vnc client that works over an SSH tunnel?
[19:27] <x0077BE> Or rather, I need one where I can configure it to go over a SOCKS5 proxy.
[19:27] <davidkron> didnt work :/
[19:27] <homer> output of sudo dmesg [ 1167.233648] perf samples too long (2527 > 2500), lowering kernel.perf_event_max_sample_rate to 50000 [ 2089.980154] usb 2-1: new high-speed USB device number 5 using ehci-pci.   any ideas why this is taking so long?
[19:27] <x0077BE> KDRC seems like a bust.
[19:27] <MichaelP> where can i get a Torrent download for 13.10 x64 ?
[19:28] <OerHeks> !torrent | MichaelP
[19:28] <homer> loading wheel still stopped connorson?
[19:28] <OerHeks> err http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[19:28] <connorson> #homer yes and now gone to desktop session :@
[19:28] <anildigital> how is ubuntu 13.10
[19:28] <connorson> #homer Reboot and not login to Ubuntu one
[19:29] <homer> anildigital broken
[19:29] <nightdrever> in additional driver says driver is activated but not currently in use?
[19:29] <homer> yes connorson
[19:29] <sophie_> I heard 13.10 has problems with searching in unity
[19:29] <connorson> #homer 13.10 broken :(
[19:29] <cyberalex4life> I use Ubuntu Gnome
[19:29] <cyberalex4life> with Window  List extension
[19:29] <thy_> does gome s
[19:29] <sophie_> I'm not complaining but, why does broken software get shipped?
[19:29] <OerHeks> sophie_, you must have heard wrong, no problem here
[19:29] <thy_> (sorry...)
[19:30] <davividal> hi. I'm using LDAP on my network, among other things, it manages my sudoers files. On my (personal) workstation I want to use LDAP and files for sudoers. That's what I've put on my /etc/nsswitch.conf: sudoers: ldap files , and here is my /etc/sudoers.d/redmine_gitolite: redmine ALL=(git) NOPASSWD:ALL
[19:30] <davividal> but whenever I try to sudo -u git -i ls it keeps asking my password. How can I debug what's going on?
[19:30] <MichaelP> OerHeks: that 2nd was what i wanted !! lol
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> MichaelP  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[19:30] <OerHeks> MichaelP, sorry for that, i assumed it gave the torrent site :-D
[19:31] <connorson> #homer white bar :D, Good So far
[19:31] <homer> good to hear connorson
[19:31] <MichaelP> It's ok
[19:31] <connorson> #homer about 5 mins to verify stupid installer >:(
[19:32] <And15> D:
[19:33] <harry> just wondering why there is no support for 9.10
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> harry  because it's !eal, dead
[19:33] <DJones> harry: Because its out of date
[19:34] <tgm4883> because 2009 was 4 years ago
[19:34] <Reacto> So, is there any way I can get better dual monitor support for ubuntu?
[19:34] <Reacto> I've got the nvidia 331 drivers and nvidia-settings
[19:34] <savid> How do I flush internal DNS cache? I'm pinging an IP that's getting the wrong host.  Using the dig tool reveals the correct host.
[19:34] <Reacto> but the mouse kind of stops when I try to get it over to the other monitor
[19:34] <Reacto> then it's stuck there for a few seconds before it bumps over
[19:34] <connorson> installing off a usb is really slow or my laptop specs are just to high
[19:34] <Reacto> doesn't happen all the time either, but it's extremely annoying when it does
[19:36] <connorson> #homer Try number TWO
[19:37] <connorson> what
[19:38] <connorson> What is 13.10 called?
[19:38] <hawke_1> So in the interest of not posting trolling screenshots and actually trying to get something to work: Is the lack of any network connection util (nm-applet, control-center’s network connections setup) a known problem in Ubuntu 13.10?
[19:38] <connorson> #homer i need help bad
[19:38] <connorson> #homer Input/output error!
[19:38] <homer> 13.10= saucy salamander
[19:39] <homer> where you getting that error from and did you already do an erase and install?
[19:39] <connorson> got the error from copying file and i did erase and install
[19:39] <connorson> not going to ubuntu 13.04
[19:39] <connorson> not going to ubuntu 13.10
[19:40] <connorson> Worse version ever for me! >:(
[19:41] <sophie_> commorson, gusty gibbon was pretty foul in my own experience
[19:41] <MonkeyDust> connorson  no rants here please
[19:41] <homer> connorson, are you installing via DVD or USB and is the install media capable of booting of live booting?
[19:41] <connorson> SOrry
[19:41] <thy_> 10.04 rulez
[19:42] <connorson> #homer im installing from usb only way, as i only got that
[19:42] <rostam> HI I have created kickstart via DVD now I like use USB. How could I achieve this please? thx
[19:42] <connorson> #homer I installed ubuntu 13.04 fine
[19:44] <connorson> where can i get 13.04
[19:44] <hawke_1> Is there any way to get my nm-applet back? Trying to run it at the commandline gives "** (nm-applet:24139): WARNING **: Could not initialize NMClient /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager: Rejected send message, 3 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.408" (uid=1612031795 pid=24139 comm="nm-applet ") interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" member="GetAll" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="org.freedesktop.Ne
[19:44] <bekks> connorson: www.ubuntu.com
[19:44] <connorson> i know, but i would like 13.04 not 13.10
[19:45] <Pici> connorson: http://releases.ubuntu.com
[19:45] <bekks> connorson: 13.04 is available from www.ubuntu.com too...
[19:45] <homer> http://releases.ubuntu.com/raring/
[19:45] <lenzeor> Really enraged right now.
[19:45] <lenzeor> Reinstalling as a last resort.
[19:45] <lenzeor> 12.04 because fuck everything.
[19:45] <tgm4883> !ohmy | lenzeor
[19:45] <connorson> 13.04 is the Stable onefor me
[19:46] <lenzeor> I apologize. Sorry. I
[19:46] <lenzeor> It's only that updating completely bricked my system... again
[19:46] <connorson> bricked? Lenzero
[19:46] <sophie_> lenzeor, was it an in-place upgrade?
[19:47] <lenzeor> sophie_, yes, it was
[19:47] <connorson> whats bricked for computer?
[19:47] <sophie_> Oh, it's best to stay away from those
[19:47] <lenzeor> connorson, I cannot boot into a decent system anymore
[19:47] <connorson> Not able to boot up to os
[19:47] <connorson> lol
[19:47] <lenzeor> sophie yeah I know that now
[19:47] <lenzeor> might as well try elementaryOS
[19:47] <sophie_> Happened to me once trying to go from 8.10 to 9.04
[19:47] <homer> lenzeor, can you get to command line?
[19:47] <lenzeor> I can, homer
[19:48] <lenzeor> to tty
[19:48] <combat> hy all
[19:48] <homer> what is the exact problem you are having lenzeor ?
[19:48] <lenzeor> I don't really know.
[19:48] <homer> not booting into a normal GUI?
[19:48] <homer> are you getting any errors?
[19:48] <thy_> I only install LTS Ubuntu's.... and I'm disappointed with the 12th one...
[19:49] <lenzeor> I can login via tty. Everything graphical fails though. I tried reconfiguring gdm and installing lightdm and reinstalling my graphics drivers
[19:49] <lenzeor> nothing helped
[19:49] <bekks> thy_: So you are disappointed since 18 months? ;)
[19:49] <thy_> bekks :  Yes
[19:49] <connorson> installing windows back, No more ubuntu now
[19:49] <lenzeor> aw no
[19:50] <lenzeor> I'm staying with you, Ubuntu
[19:50] <lenzeor> even if I have to re-install you every 6 months
[19:50] <thy_> fortunately i still have the 10.04 on my production computer
[19:50] <bekks> lenzeor: I dont have to. I can update every 5 years.
[19:50] <hawke_1> I remember back in the good old days when upgrades actually worked…
[19:50] <jo_> lenzeor: does it boot to lightdm?
[19:51] <toshiba> hi friends
[19:51] <homer> lenzeor, did you try sudo service lightgdm restart or sudo service gdm restart?
[19:51] <toshiba> how do i make my pc wifi hotspot?
[19:51] <lenzeor> jo_ it actually does. But only in nomodeset. And not into any DE
[19:51] <homer> if so what happens then if anything?
[19:51] <lenzeor> homer I could give that a try
[19:51] <lenzeor> what's the exact command?
[19:51] <homer> try both and let me know
[19:51] <homer> sudo service gdm restart
[19:51] <rostam> HI where could I get info on creating kickstart via usb? thx
[19:52] <lenzeor> "sudo service gdm restart" like that?
[19:52] <homer> yup
[19:52] <lenzeor> ok
[19:52] <lenzeor> Be back in 5-10 minutes
[19:52] <ObrienDave> kickstart? you mean a boot disk?
[19:52] <godber1> Hi, I'm trying to use xrandr with two 6 head video cards ... I have it working great for a SINGLE card ... I just don't know how to address the "Monitor"s for the second card
[19:52] <homer> i had to install gdm to get around the failsafe graphics error
 I remember back in the good old days when upgrades actually worked…
[19:52] <Calinou> tip: wait a few weeks before an upgrade
[19:52] <Calinou> let the others do the QA for you ;)
[19:53] <godber1> xrandr -q doesn't show what they are called
[19:53] <godber1> anyone have an idea?
[19:53] <K|NgGh0sT> I am retarded and messed up Grub and now I can't get the ubuntu Live CD to load it keeps giving me error "Error: can not read cd/0" and "Error: The kernel must be loaded first"
[19:53] <Calinou> sophie_: 12.10 > 13.04 upgrade on xubuntu worked for me.
[19:53] <Calinou> tip: disable PPAs before an upgrade :P
[19:54] <moppy> the current upgrader autodisables ppas
[19:54] <moppy> wait, maybe not auto. it might ask.
[19:54] <hawke_1> You folks might enjoy this screenshot… http://imagebin.org/274039
[19:55] <Calinou> well I don't use unity :P
[19:55] <anildigital> homer: broken for what?
[19:55] <Calinou> also you seem to have tons of third party software, such as dropbox
[19:55] <anildigital> any major issues with ubuntu 13.10?
[19:56] <hawke_1> Calinou: I wouldn’t say “tons”, but some: Dropbox, Chrome, Steam.
[19:56] <hawke_1> Calinou: Most of those stay to themselves
[19:57] <K|NgGh0sT> I just want to boot again!
[19:57] <Calinou> could still cause problems :P
[19:57] <Calinou> the problems of proprietary software
[19:57] <Calinou> anildigital: you should wait a bit before upgrading I guess. :)
[19:58] <lenzeor> homer, you still there
[19:58] <lenzeor> it worked
[19:59] <lenzeor> I am still in the failsafe graphics mode though (I did not specify "nomodeset" at boot). Any ideas on how to get my graphics working?
[19:59] <bjrohan> Since upgrading to 13.10, my audio is no longer working. I have an HP envy with Beats audio. In the pulse audio control, while playing media, the sound bars are moving, but nothing out of the speakers. If I plug in an HDMI cable to my TV, and change the output, the TV gets audio. I then unplug the cable, and change the output, and viola sound out of my laptop speakers
[19:59] <homer> i am
[19:59] <lenzeor> !seen homer
[19:59] <homer> good, that is awesome
[19:59] <moppy> dropbox chrome and steam migh be 3rd party but they're so common you cant really call it good if they dont work on a system
[20:00] <homer> you should be able to enable the proper video card driver if needed from there lenzeor
[20:00] <siyman> hey guys, anyone has experiences in using citrix ica in ubuntu 13.10?
[20:00] <hawke_1> also, if that were the program that were crashing I would have no problem with that
[20:00] <moppy> chrome is, what, up to 50% now of all desktop browsers?
[20:01] <Calinou> bjrohan: there's a known bug with the sound indicators, AFAIK.
[20:01] <Calinou> moppy: don't forget about chromium
[20:01] <homer> anildigital, my boot time since upgrading to 13.10 is taking much much longer
[20:01] <Dwarf> Welcome to the club
[20:01] <yeats> !bootchart
[20:01] <homer> i have ran sudo dmesg and found a few of the "culprits" but not sure how to fix them
[20:01] <lenzeor> from where? Since 13.10 there are no proprietary drivers for my card anymore. I have to use "fglrx".
[20:01] <Calinou> you don't need to use sudo for dmesg
[20:01] <lenzeor> homerß
[20:01] <Dwarf> You're the umpteenth person
[20:02] <Calinou> lenzeor: fglrx is the proprietary drivee!
[20:02] <yeats> lenzeor: ATI?
[20:02] <Calinou> driver*
[20:02] <Calinou> yeats: it's AMD now
[20:02] <homer> ok lenzeor, you should be good to go then
[20:02] <lenzeor> yeats
[20:02] <Calinou> the open source driver is called radeon.
[20:02] <yeats> Calinou: yes, I know, thanks
[20:02] <Calinou> it is not available on the HD2000/3000/4000s
[20:02] <lenzeor> Calinou, just radeon?
[20:02] <hawke_1> But steam+chrome+even dropbox is not going to cause crashes in software-properties-gtk, scdaemon, nm-applet, hud-service
[20:02] <Calinou> you need an HD5000 or higher for fglrx
[20:02] <hawke_1> etc.
[20:02] <jo_> siyman: Saw some problems with the receiver a while ago in the forum.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2166020&page=3
[20:02] <lenzeor> Thats my card Calinou
[20:02] <K|NgGh0sT> I cannot get a ubuntu Live CD to load... I recieve the errors "Error: can not read cd/0" and "Error: The kernel must be loaded first"
[20:02] <lenzeor> oh oukay
[20:02] <Calinou> there are series, not cards
[20:02] <sophie_> Is the HD5000 iris or not?
[20:02] <Calinou> lenzeor: lspci | grep VGA
[20:02] <Calinou> tells your card
[20:03] <yeats> K|NgGh0sT: can you try a USB?
[20:03] <Calinou> sophie_: I'm talking about AMD here
[20:03] <Calinou> silly intel...
[20:03] <bjrohan> Calinou: is that in 13.10? what is AFAIK
[20:03] <lenzeor> yesyes, its an ATI Radeon HD 3540...
[20:03] <sophie_> Oh okay, they should really not use the same names
[20:03] <Calinou> As Far As I Know
[20:03] <Calinou> lenzeor: you have to use radeon (the open source driver) then. it is probably enough
[20:03] <siyman> jo_:thx, will take a look. Honestly it's not working just through a missed dependency (lib32asound2) - any ideas?
[20:03] <lenzeor> Calinou, I get "unable to locate package radeon"
[20:03] <Calinou> this card is very slow already, you wouldn't gain much from having the proprietary driver.
[20:03] <Calinou> it is not a package, it is bundled into the kernel.
[20:03] <jo_> siyman: you use 64bit?
[20:04] <K|NgGh0sT> USB Just freezes at a purple screen with a grey bar at top
[20:04] <siyman> jo_: yes, indeed
[20:04] <bjrohan> FWIW I to get audio to work, I have to plug in the HDMI, switch to HDMI output, while audio is playing, switch back to default, then unplug the HDMI cable and it works
[20:04] <bjrohan> sans subwofer
[20:04] <lenzeor> Calinou, ouh okay. I used the proprietary drivers up to 13.04 though and the performance difference was huge
[20:04] <homer> ty ubottu, installing bootchart now
[20:05] <Calinou> lenzeor: you could try enabling DPM (Dynamic Power Management), which is disabled by default, but it is still in the works
[20:05] <lenzeor> Calinou, so if I uninstall fglrx and reconfigure "radeon" I should be good to go, right Calinou?
[20:05] <jo_> siyman: try sudo apt-get install libasound2:i386
[20:05] <Calinou> you can't install fglrx as far as I know. it doesn't support the latest X.org server version
[20:06] <Calinou> you would have to downgrade X.org, which is unsupported
[20:06] <siyman> jo_: I did, and it's already installed. Nevertheless, citrix ignores this and keeps stucky with the same error.
[20:06] <lenzeor> Calinou, how do I tell my system to use the opensource radeon driver?
[20:06] <tgm4883> Calinou, I've installed fglrx in 13.10
[20:06] <Calinou> tgm4883: what is your card?
[20:06] <Calinou> lenzeor: it already does
[20:07] <tgm4883> 7500M
[20:07] <Calinou> yep, it is supported.
[20:07] <Calinou> remember that your card isn't southern islands, despite the name... silly renaming
[20:07] <Calinou> it's actually a (pretty slow) and renamed HD6000
[20:07] <tgm4883> Calinou, sorry yes, I didn't read the full backlog
[20:07] <lenzeor> it does not, it puts me into failsafe graphics mode, Calinou
[20:07] <Calinou> tgm4883: it's ok :)
[20:07] <mustmodify> uh... I set up an ec2 instance with ubuntu and it's set up for only ssh auth by default... how do I enable it to ask for passwords?
[20:08] <jo_> siyman: check the post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2166020&p=12816007#post12816007
[20:08] <siyman> jo_: thank you very much, your help is much appreciated!
[20:09] <Calinou> lenzeor: as in, you can't increase resolution to your resolution's native screen?
[20:09] <Kakurady> Hi, when I try to upgrade Ubuntu GNOME from 12.04 to 13.10 through update-manager, do-release-upgrade exits with the message "Real-time signal 0" before or after extracting the updater. But running "do-release-upgrade --frontend=Gtk" directly works. What should I do?
[20:09] <siyman> jo_: I'll have a look tomorrow, it's quite late and I'll get to sleep. Again, thank you so much :c)
[20:09] <tgm4883> mustmodify, do the opposite of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring#Disable_Password_Authentication
[20:09] <mustmodify> tgm4883: do you know if I can do this on a user-by-user basis?
[20:09] <Calinou> quick question by the way: which way of upgrading is better? command line or GUI?
[20:10] <Calinou> I did upgrade through command line on netbook and worked fine (12.10 to 13.04), but I'd like to be sure
[20:10] <tgm4883> mustmodify, I don't believe you can, but I've not actually looked
[20:10] <mustmodify> tgm4883: I'll look around. Thanks.
[20:10] <lenzeor> Calinou, as as in that, yes
[20:10] <rootdigga> my upgrade says upgrading kubuntu to version 13.10 but I initially installed vanilla ubuntu... what happened? I hate kde
[20:11] <bekks> rootdigga: You installed kubuntu-desktop in the past.
[20:12] <Calinou> lenzeor: :/ I don't know then, sorry, someone else might
[20:12] <lenzeor> Thanks a lot though Calinou! :>>
[20:12] <K|NgGh0sT> USB Booting never bloody works
[20:12] <lenzeor> You're a good guy!
[20:12] <Calinou> it does K|NgGh0sT. what software did you use to "burn" the image?
[20:13] <rootdigga> @bekks yep damn thx
[20:13] <rhalff> hi, I have ubuntu studio precise, but when I do do-release-upgrade it says there are no new releases, although there are, what to do ?
[20:13] <K|NgGh0sT> USB Installer from pendrivelinux
[20:13] <lenzeor> K|NgGh0sT, have you tried unetbootin?
[20:13] <Calinou> rhalff: by default only LTS releases are detected, I think.
[20:14] <Calinou> you need to change that in the software sources menu
[20:14] <Calinou> K|NgGh0sT: give Unetbootin a try! :)
[20:14] <bekks> Calinou: You dont have to code it, just change that setting...
[20:14] <K|NgGh0sT> I'll try
[20:14] <Calinou> it works fine for me
[20:14] <K|NgGh0sT> I dont understand why this DVD isnt working either
[20:14] <K|NgGh0sT> EFI is a buncha bs
[20:14] <Calinou> bekks: code what?
[20:14] <wilee-nilee> rhalff, no 12.10 upgrade offered?
[20:14] <bekks> Calinou: I just misread your line...
[20:15] <Calinou> K|NgGh0sT: if you can, you could try booting in BIOS mode and installing in BIOS mode. it wouldn't matter if you don't dual boot
[20:15] <geirha> rhalff: Or wait for 14.04 to be released. That's an LTS release, and you can upgrade directly from 12.04 to 14.04
[20:15] <K|NgGh0sT> I only have Linux on it, I'll try
[20:16] <jo_> rhalff: Since you are on precise I advise you to wait for 6 month to upgrade. If you going to upgrade now you will have to upgrade 3 times!
[20:16] <Wug> has anyone encountered an issue wherein the desktop is rendered inoperable? not the various unity panels, just the desktop.  no files appear on it, and it doesn't respond to right clicks
[20:16] <lenzeor> Hmmm.. seems like I am switching to elementaryOS Luna
[20:17] <Calinou> we don't support it here, and it's based on 12.04, so you are likely to have the same issues as you have had with 12.04
[20:17] <K|NgGh0sT> All this just to fix Grub, geez
[20:17] <rhalff> Calinou, wilee-nilee , geirha , jo_  I've changed it to normal instead of tls, and now it upgrades, hope it will be ok :)
[20:17] <lenzeor> rhalff, don't
[20:18] <lenzeor> It just bricked my system to the point where I can only reinstall
[20:18] <jo_> lenzeor: :-)
[20:18] <wilee-nilee> K|NgGh0sT, You are at the mercy of your general knowledge, don't take ot out on yourself on the channel chill out.
[20:18] <geirha> rhalff: Note that to upgrade from 12.04 to 13.10, you have to upgrade to 12.10, then to 13.04, then to 13.10
[20:18] <rhalff> lenzeor, why not? I look on the ubuntu studio site and it says the latest release is 13.10
[20:18] <rhalff> hm ok
[20:18] <K|NgGh0sT> wilee-nilee, how am I taking it out on the channel?
[20:19] <geirha> So it'll pay to wait for 14.04 where you only need one upgrade
[20:19] <An_Ony_Moose> I want to set up a mail server. Is any one server software easier to configure and use than another? I mainly intend to forward emails to other addresses.
[20:19] <rhalff> I probably might as well just install the new version from scratch then, not much interesting on this computer, thanks
[20:19] <wilee-nilee> K|NgGh0sT, You can manually boot grub and be in the os or edit it from a cli, however you seem to not know how.
[20:19] <lenzeor> Go ahead and do it.. You will see for yourself. If you want to upgrade, reinstall with a livedisk.
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> An_Ony_Moose  i guess you want task (task select)
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> An_Ony_Moose  i guess you want tasksel (task select)
[20:20] <wilee-nilee> K|NgGh0sT, You method of communication is at a childish level complaining consistently.;
[20:20] <wilee-nilee> act like an adult
[20:20] <rhalff> hm, Saucy Salamander, sounds a lot better than 8.1
[20:21] <An_Ony_Moose> MonkeyDust: oooh never knew that existed.
[20:21] <Calinou> lenzeor: reinstalling has its downsides too, especially if you don't have a separate /home partition.
[20:21] <vershan> hi will an environment variable need to go here /etc/skel/.bashrc
[20:21] <Calinou> but generally, yes, it is safer, but it takes more time to tweak after install ;)
[20:21] <sophie_> You have to pronounce saucy as Sawcy though
[20:21] <Mendigaum> is it possible to enable wobbly windows in ubuntu 13.10?
[20:21] <An_Ony_Moose> oh wow so THAT'S how I should be installing a DE...
[20:21] <MonkeyDust> An_Ony_Moose  glad I could help
[20:21] <jo_> Mendigaum: it is discontinue
[20:21] <chaotic_good> what is the option to break into a vm?
[20:21] <chaotic_good> e on grub boot and add something?
[20:22] <Calinou> Mendigaum: not really possible anymore. that was a thing of the 2006 era ;)
[20:22] <An_Ony_Moose> MonkeyDust: so am I *g* thanks
[20:22] <wilee-nilee> chaotic_good, What is the end goal here exactly?
[20:22] <StuartWhelan> Hi folks, I am rebuilding my ubuntu system, and I want to use raid5. Is booting from a gpt raid5 devices supported by 13.04?
[20:22] <moppy> going to have to ask why your OS in raid 5
[20:23] <moppy> raid 5 for data, sure, but why the OS?
[20:23] <An_Ony_Moose> tasksel... I must remember this name!
[20:23] <Kim> For whatever reason, the launcher doesn't reveal after updating to 13.10 (from 13.04)
[20:23] <Mendigaum> Calinou, jo_, ok thanks.
[20:23] <StuartWhelan> moppy: Any reason why not? Just one blob of disk.
[20:23] <Kim> Any ideas how to fix this?
[20:23] <Kim> :P
[20:24] <moppy> StuartWhelan: raid 5 uses striping with parity, it's not really a jbod.
[20:24] <moppy> StuartWhelan: if you want just to glue some disks together and combine spac, that raid 0
[20:24] <Marijn> Can anybody give me a hand using the live-CD and chroot to update the initramfs ?? I'm almost there, but when i it doens't ask to input the passphrase for the disk encryption.. i'm locked out of my system since update to 13.10.
[20:25] <StuartWhelan> moppy: I am after some fault tollerance as well.
[20:25] <lenzeor> I would like to switch to Arch but you actually need a second working computer with internet acess for the purpose of walking you through the installation. -_-
[20:25] <Calinou> heh
[20:25] <moppy> raid 1 is a mirror, i would normally recommend that for the OS. raid 5 add some additional complexites with recovery
[20:25] <DarsVaeda> how can I display a clock and date in the top bar?
[20:25] <nacho> hola
[20:26] <StuartWhelan> moppy: I have 5 identical TB disks you see, raid 5 seemed the simplest. Hmm.
[20:26] <moppy> but hey, your disk, dont let me tell you what to do
[20:26] <moppy> that would give you 4 TB of usable space then with raid 5
[20:26] <StuartWhelan> moppy: No, I appreciate your thoughts and advice. I want to work out the best way to do this. I am not arguring, just wanting to understand. :)
[20:27] <trism> DarsVaeda: if you go to Date & Time settings, on the Clock tab you can enable showing the weekday as well as the date in addition to the time in the clock
[20:27] <moppy> wirh raid when you recover you have to regenerate the data
[20:27] <moppy> err raid 5
[20:27] <DarsVaeda> thanks I'll try that
[20:27] <moppy> with a mirror you can just replace the drive and re-copy
[20:28] <StuartWhelan> moppy: Hmm, I guess I could do 1 boot drive, and two raid0 devices using the other 4 disks..
[20:28] <DarsVaeda> hmm the clock tab is greyed out in its entireness
[20:29] <DarsVaeda> also the "show a clock in the menu bar" is ticked, but as all is greyed out...
[20:29] <StuartWhelan> moopy: Or maybe raid1+0?
[20:29] <StuartWhelan> Err, 0+1 Stripe then mirror the strip
[20:29] <Marijn> Anybody have experience using update-initramfs from the live-CD with chroot...?
[20:30] <trism> DarsVaeda: are you on 13.10? there is a bug where it sometimes doesn't show up when you login
[20:30] <DarsVaeda> yes 13.10
[20:30] <DarsVaeda> but I never had it
[20:30] <DarsVaeda> okay then I hope that bug(fix) will fix my problem too
[20:30] <trism> DarsVaeda: bug 1239710
[20:31] <trism> DarsVaeda: as a workaround, make sure the indicator datetime service isn't running: ps aux | grep indicator-datetime-service; kill the pid if it is, then run: restart unity-panel-service;
[20:31] <trism> DarsVaeda: that usually brings it back for me
[20:31] <vershan> Marijn you said that you are halfway there, where did you stop?
[20:31] <Anonynimity> could someone tell me how to add the backtrack repos to ubuntu precise?
[20:32] <DarsVaeda> trism thx that actually worked
[20:32] <Marijn> vershan: when i tried to boot again, and the initramfs dropped me on the busybox commandline because it cannot find it's root...
[20:33] <vershan> Anonynimity http://rumytaulu.wordpress.com/2012/10/22/backtrack-5-on-ubuntu-12-04-how-to-add-backtrack-repository-to-ubuntu-12-04/
[20:33] <Marijn> vershan: i'm expecting it to ask for my full-diskdecription password..
[20:33] <Anonynimity> thank you
[20:34] <Anonynimity> is there a 32-bit repo?
[20:35] <Marijn> vershan: i'm trying to regenerate the initramfs because to add a module at boottime...
[20:36] <Marijn> vershan: because of this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1238194
[20:36] <moppy> why is that 'undecided' ?
[20:37] <Marijn> moppy: it seems pretty critical to me... locked out after upgrade.. not funny..
[20:39] <jorn> I have two network-manager icons in my systray - how do I remove the one that only has two options: Wired 1 and Wired 2?
[20:39] <Kalel> Greetings..
[20:40] <Kalel> My webcam isn't working properly anymore and I really do not know what is happening..
[20:41] <Kalel> In the HP website, I see a firmware upgrade, I cannot install it because is for Windows..
[20:41] <ElysiumNet> not neccesarily an ubuntu question but I don't know where to ask it: What's the best way to isolate users from screwing around with eachother's data, and allow them to use the OS as if it was their own server?
[20:42] <ElysiumNet> I was currently looking at Xen's paravirtualization, but I don't know if that's overkill or even if it is what I am looking for
[20:42] <Marijn> ElysiumNet: what level of control should the users have?
[20:42] <ElysiumNet> Marijn: they should be able to use apt-get and compile their own applications
[20:42] <Marijn> ElysiumNet: if they are just 'users' then just having closed homedirs would be fine..
[20:42] <Marijn> ElysiumNet: ahhh.. no.. then some sort of virtualisation is probably called for..
[20:43] <Kalel> How can I upgrade my webcam's firmaware from ubuntu? Can I use wine for that?
[20:44] <trism> ElysiumNet: maybe lxc?
[20:44] <ElysiumNet> I've tried lxc, but it kept failing miserably
[20:45] <filosofixit> I have upgraded to ubuntu 13.10 and everything works great, but I now have tho icons of Network-manager. One acts as normal, but the other one only allow me to turn on/off my networkcards...
[20:45] <ElysiumNet> oh, I was in the middle of reinstalling lxc
[20:45] <ElysiumNet> it kept complaining about the lvm
[20:46] <ElysiumNet> or was that xen...
[20:47] <ElysiumNet> ah, now I remember. I couldn't get lxc to actually *run*
[20:47] <lonewulf85> hey can the startupdisk creator make a Windows USB for install?
[20:48] <Jordan_U> lonewulf85: No, Startup Disk Creator cannot create bootable Windows disks, only bootable Ubuntu disks (and possibly other GNU/Linux distributions).
[20:48] <Kalel> lonewulf85: You must install unetbootin with ntfs support, format the pendrive with the same ntfs..
[20:49] <mmp> hi
[20:49] <wilee-nilee> lonewulf85, What windows release?
[20:49] <lonewulf85> wilee-nilee, Windows 7 pro.
[20:49] <FrazerXD349> Does anybody know how I can install Gnome 3.10 in Ubuntu Gnome 13.10?
[20:50] <Kalel> wilee-nilee: ^
[20:50] <wilee-nilee> lonewulf85, There is a fork of the windows usb loader for linux, hold on I will find it.
[20:50] <Anonynimity> mmmmmMMMMMMOOOOOOOoooooooo
[20:50] <openyost> Hey all, I just upgraded to 13.10 and now my indicator icons are mostly not the ubuntu-mono icons.  http://screencloud.net/v/8fR1  Any ideas on how to fix this?  I've been trying stuff all day long.
[20:50] <mojtaba> I have recently updated to 13.10, and the KDE accessible is always showing on the top, even after closing it!! Does anybody know what should I do?
[20:50] <wilee-nilee> lonewulf85, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/tool-to-create-windows-usb-install.html
[20:51] <mmp> hi
[20:51] <lonewulf85> wilee-nilee, Thanks a bunch, my damn gaming pc crashed and I need to re install lol
[20:51] <Jordan_U> Anonynimity: Once you've added backtrack repositories to Ubuntu your installation will no longer be supported here. What specifically are you trying to install?
[20:52] <mojtaba>  I have recently updated to 13.10, and the KDE accessible is always showing on the top, even after closing it!! Does anybody know what should I do?
[20:52] <Kim> Anyone know how to get reveal working on the launcher after updating?  I've tried resetting defaults, but it's still where nothing happens when I push the mouse against the side of the screen, which is how I have it set to reveal
[20:52] <wilee-nilee> lonewulf85, No problem, for extra info you can also just make a ntfs and a boot flagged partition and extract the win & iso to it and use it as well.
[20:52] <wilee-nilee> win 7*
[20:53] <FrazerXD349> Does anybody know how I can install Gnome 3.10 in Ubuntu Gnome 13.10?
[20:53] <lonewulf85> wilee-nilee, Cool thanks.
[20:53] <mmp> hi
[20:54] <wilee-nilee> lonewulf85, no problem, enjoy.
[20:55] <mojtaba> wilee-nilee:   I have recently updated to 13.10, and the KDE accessible is always showing on the top, even after closing it!! Does anybody know what should I do?
[20:56] <Marijn> I'm running "update-initramfs -u" from th 13.10 liveCD with chroot.. it however complains: "cryptsetup: WARNING: invalid line in /etc/crypttab for luks-XXXX-etc, etc".. anybody know what i'm missing?
[20:57] <lover___413> guys u know how to use mac changer
[20:57] <tozen> lover___413: wwwhat? o_O
[20:58] <lover___413> sudo apt-get mac changer
[20:58] <lover___413> try this in ur terminal
[20:59] <FrazerXD349> Does anybody know how I can install Gnome 3.10 in Ubuntu Gnome 13.10?
[20:59] <ElysiumNet> blasted, xen won't work on this thing either
[20:59] <lover___413> sudo apt-get macchanger
[21:00] <chaotic_good> zomg hard to find xterminal in new gnome
[21:00] <chaotic_good> but hopeflly pptp vpn ez
[21:00] <tozen> FrazerXD349: eeeehh... http://www.webupd8.org/2013/09/how-to-install-gnome-310-in-ubuntu-1310.html
[21:00] <chaotic_good> :)
[21:02] <mojtaba> Does anybody know how can I get rid of kde accessible?
[21:02] <tqrst> is there a command that will give me the number of SATA ports I have, *even if some do not have any disks plugged in*?
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> whaddayaknow! webupd8 won't show with ghostery enabled, i had to disable it
[21:05] <sgoldin> hey I'm running 12.04 and why is my kernel version so high?
[21:05] <yeats> sgoldin: what is the version?
[21:06] <sgoldin> 3.5.0-23-generic
[21:06] <sgoldin> when I installed linux-source it installed 3.2.0
[21:06] <yeats> sgoldin: you may have a backports repo enabled?
[21:06] <sgoldin> hmm
[21:06] <tozen> sgoldin:  mine is 3.5.0-42
[21:06] <MonkeyDust> sgoldin  i'm running 12.04 too, 3.8 here
[21:06] <SteveBell> Hi all. I updated ubuntu from 12.04LTS to 12.10. update went fine, but now all my netbook does is boot into a black screen
[21:06] <sgoldin> I guess my real question is why is linux-sources version so low
[21:06] <chaotic_good> 12.04.3 gives 3.8
[21:07] <chaotic_good> due to xorg compaints
[21:07] <ElysiumNet> does there happen to be a software solution so I can just run some kind of virtualization software and be done with it?
[21:07] <chaotic_good> 12.04 = 3.2
[21:07] <chaotic_good> maybe 3.5
[21:07] <sgoldin> oh interesting
[21:07] <chaotic_good> skip virtualization and SAN
[21:07] <sgoldin> so I'm running 12.04.2
[21:07] <sgoldin> which I guess is 3.5
[21:07] <chaotic_good> use iSCSI and name based vhosts
[21:07] <chaotic_good> ya
[21:07] <chaotic_good> sounds about ryt
[21:07] <sgoldin> but why is sources so old then :-)
[21:07] <ElysiumNet> chaotic_good: was that meant towards me?
[21:08] <lover___413> love you ubuntu
[21:08] <Marijn> off to try to boot into my encrypted disk again.. with USB keyboard support i hope...
[21:08] <Jordan_U> ElysiumNet: How will these users be interacting with the machine? Physically? Via ssh?
[21:08] <ElysiumNet> Jordan_U: SSH
[21:09] <ElysiumNet> being able to run in their own isolated environment and compile their own code is a requirement
[21:09] <SteveBell> I found this solution for a non booting nb305 (which is my netbook) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/508516/comments/39
[21:09] <SteveBell> but how would I get to step 1?
[21:09] <chaotic_good> I prefer to run 2 big boxes
[21:09] <chaotic_good> and name based vhosts
[21:09] <chaotic_good> no need for kickstart n friend
[21:09] <Jordan_U> ElysiumNet: How many different users do you expect?
[21:09] <chaotic_good> no ned for puppet
[21:09] <chaotic_good> no need for xen
[21:09] <FloodBot1> chaotic_good: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:09] <chaotic_good> just run my appservers n DONE
[21:09] <ElysiumNet> Jordan_U: 5-10 users per server
[21:10] <chaotic_good> maybe 2 more for database boxes running cl-prevalence
[21:10] <defaultro> can you guys recommmend an mailing list hosting company?
[21:10] <chaotic_good> google groups
[21:10] <yeats> !ot | defaultro
[21:10] <k1l_> chaotic_good: be easy in the enter :)  you triggert the floodbot
[21:10] <defaultro> sorry folks
[21:11] <chaotic_good> is the flodbot liek a killer robot?
[21:11] <chaotic_good> liek a daaalek
[21:11] <Jordan_U> !ot | chaotic_good
[21:11] <k1l_> !enter > chaotic_good
[21:12] <Grape_hunter> Just curious, is it possible to upgrade ubuntu to 13.10 from 13.04, using an ISO that's on ubuntu
[21:13] <Grape_hunter> cdromupgrade was for alternate discs, but with 13.10, I don't think there's an alternate disc
[21:14] <Grape_hunter> isn't there a script that i can run to start the installer?
[21:14] <ikonia> !upgrade | Grape_hunter
[21:14] <Grape_hunter> ty
[21:15] <Grape_hunter> wanted to use the ISO to instrall directly, that's all :P
[21:16] <we6jbo> Is there a way to connect to a vpn on Ubuntu?
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> !vpn
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> Grape_hunter, Do you have a separate home partition?
[21:18] <Grape_hunter> no
[21:19] <wilee-nilee> Grape_hunter, You can transfer home to one if you like.
[21:19] <Grape_hunter> hmmmm
[21:19] <Dudytz> hi all! in the Ubuntu (gnome) the package gnome-user-share have two packages suggests: apache2.2-bin and libapache2-mod-dnssd marked as UNSATISFIED ... but these packages are essential for the user share and without installing they the share not works ... is this a possible bug?
[21:20] <tgm4883> Dudytz, I don't see why those two would be essential for a user share
[21:20] <wilee-nilee> Grape_hunter, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[21:21] <Grape_hunter> wilee-nilee: ok thanks
[21:22] <Grape_hunter> 3am
[21:22] <Grape_hunter> work at 9
[21:22] <Grape_hunter> should go to bed, will just leae update to happen
[21:22] <Dudytz> without these packages the Personal File Sharing Preferences show a message "This feature cannot be enabled because the required packages are not installed on your system" ... see this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/83358/samba-is-installed-why-doesnt-gnome-file-share-properties-work
[21:22] <Grape_hunter> altho using ISO would've been better
[21:22] <trism> Dudytz: I see both packages in the repo so you can install them if needed, but suggests aren't installed by default. If the package really doesn't work at all without them, then it might be worth a bug report, but usually things are marked as suggested when they aren't necessary for most people
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> Grape_hunter, Myself I do fresh install I just save a package list and the sources info and keys and some .configs and fresh install and run and install.
[21:22] <chaotic_good> I prefer a massive consoldiation strategy onto about 6 boxes, 2 appserver 2 db, 2 storage, no SAN, no virtualization, no puppet
[21:23] <Grape_hunter> where does the installer initialize from? wilee-nilee.. i mean alternate discs of the past had cdromupograde
[21:23] <Grape_hunter> what is it now?
[21:23] <wilee-nilee> Grape_hunter, To make the partitioning and linki the home>
[21:23] <wilee-nilee> ?
[21:24] <Grape_hunter> no, i mean the actual autostart, installer
[21:24] <tgm4883> Grape_hunter, I thought if the installer detected you had a 13.04 install it would offer to upgrade it?
[21:24] <Grape_hunter> ya.. that is if i booted from a cd
[21:24] <Grape_hunter> what if i mounted the ISO on ubuntu
[21:24] <Grape_hunter> shouldn't it do the same
[21:24] <tgm4883> Grape_hunter, no
[21:24] <wilee-nilee> Grape_hunter, I'm not sure I understand.
[21:24] <Dudytz> in aptitude these packages remain "unresolved" dependencies
[21:24] <Grape_hunter> ow. i was hoping it'd popup a simple install option
[21:24] <tgm4883> wilee-nilee, he wants to upgrade a currently booted Ubuntu install from an ISO that he mounted inside his ubuntu install
[21:25] <Grape_hunter> and i could choose upgrade
[21:25] <Dudytz> is this because apache2.2-bin is a transitional package for apache2-bin?
[21:25] <Grape_hunter> i was even considering setup a mirror :P
[21:25] <wilee-nilee> tgm4883, Ah, thats what I thought, making it harder than needed.
[21:25] <Grape_hunter> but i'm short on time, so i think a network upgrade should be the best thing to do
[21:25] <Grape_hunter> online upgrade*
[21:25] <tgm4883> I've always done a fresh install
[21:26] <wilee-nilee> Grape_hunter, YOu can boot the iso with grub and if you have the seperate home install.
[21:26] <Grape_hunter> i actually used wubi
[21:26] <Grape_hunter> is wubi working with 13.10
[21:26] <Grape_hunter> wilee-nilee: no time D:
[21:26] <tgm4883> Grape_hunter, oh geez. Don't use wubi
[21:26] <wilee-nilee> Grape_hunter, wubi, bad idea overall.
[21:26] <Trudko> guys I wanted to download all images from one webpage so I run wget -r -P C:/test/ -A jpg http://www.buzzfeed.com/expresident/most-powerful-photographs-ever-taken but it is not downloading the images logs http://pastie.org/8413006
[21:26] <Grape_hunter> :D
[21:26] <Grape_hunter> i did it with 13.04
[21:26] <syntroPi> is there a ubuntu phablet (phone) channel?
[21:26] <Grape_hunter> i hope the upgrade doesn't mess it up :P
[21:26] <tgm4883> !touch | syntroPi
[21:26] <wilee-nilee> Grape_hunter, you can move that wubi to a partition.
[21:27] <syntroPi> tgm4883, thanks
[21:27] <tgm4883> yw
[21:27] <Dudytz> in the aptitude I see this message "apache2.2-bin breaks gnome-user-share (< 3.8.0-2~)
[21:27] <Grape_hunter> i have 3 partitions. and my hard drive is that that i can't make any more partitions anymore :P
[21:27] <Grape_hunter> my setup is such
[21:27] <Grape_hunter> so i had to use wubi
[21:27] <k1l_> wubi :(
[21:27] <Grape_hunter> or buy a new hdd
[21:27] <ikonia> wbi is dead
[21:27] <Grape_hunter> yes
[21:27] <Grape_hunter> i know
[21:27] <ikonia> and you can have more than 3 partitions
[21:27] <wilee-nilee> Grape_hunter, You can do some imaging of what you have and repartition and deal with it.
[21:28] <tgm4883> Grape_hunter, honestly you should have made an extended partition
[21:28] <Grape_hunter> i didn't
[21:28] <Grape_hunter> now i have no choice
[21:28] <k1l_> Grape_hunter: you should make plans to do a new install. wubi is for testing and in most cases it will break ubuntu, windows or both
[21:28] <tgm4883> Grape_hunter, I think the limit is 4 partitions, isn't it?
[21:28] <Grape_hunter> 4yr old hdd
[21:28] <Grape_hunter> windows has this 100-200mb prtition too
[21:28] <Grape_hunter> hidden one
[21:28] <wilee-nilee> Grape_hunter, you can deal with it.
[21:28] <oal> I've installed a theme, which also has a dark version, but the documentation tells me to enable the dark option in Unity Tweak Tool. Can't find it. Any ideas?
[21:28] <k1l_> Grape_hunter: a 4 years old hdd is no excuse for not beeing able to make extended partitions
[21:28] <Grape_hunter> i can't repartitoin now
[21:29] <tgm4883> Grape_hunter, you already mentioned you have a limited amount of time, so I'm going to suggest you hold off on doing anything until you have more time to properly do things
[21:29] <Grape_hunter> and move data around
[21:29] <anonymous> YOLO
[21:29] <Grape_hunter> D:
[21:29] <vortexx> Hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu 13.10 on a vaio laptop booting off usb, and the install system boots but it produces the login screen and I have no idea what the login/pass is ? Can't seem to find doc on this, does anyone have an idea please?
[21:29] <Grape_hunter> does 13.10 mess around with the bootloader that wubi had in place?
[21:29] <faugusztin> Grape_hunter: if you need to have ubuntu and can't repartition, then install it in virtual machine
[21:29]  * tgm4883 goes back to provisioning web servers
[21:29] <k1l_> Grape_hunter: i would not recommend using wubi long time or even want to upgrade
[21:29] <ikonia> Grape_hunter: as wubi is dead, I would not upgrade
[21:29] <Grape_hunter> sluggish, slow,, not fun faugusztin
[21:29] <wilee-nilee> vortexx, check the disc sum there is no login normally
[21:30] <anonymous> Use linux live creator or universal usb
[21:30] <Grape_hunter> still comes bundled in the disc :O
[21:30] <vortexx> ok
[21:30] <Grape_hunter> iso
[21:30] <ikonia> Grape_hunter: are you sure ? I thought it had been removed
[21:30] <Grape_hunter> wonder why
[21:30] <vortexx> (I did a dd of the image to the usb drive)
[21:30] <Grape_hunter> wubi.exe it's there
[21:30] <Grape_hunter> created october 15th
[21:30] <ikonia> interesting, doesn't change my advice though
[21:30] <Grape_hunter> haha
[21:30] <Grape_hunter> let's see
[21:30] <Grape_hunter> i'll take the risk
[21:31] <tgm4883> please dont
[21:31] <Grape_hunter> have 2 laptops, 1 pc and an ipad as backup
[21:31] <ikonia> its fine - take the risk,
[21:31] <ikonia> however please don't expect fixes
[21:31] <Grape_hunter> kk
[21:31] <tgm4883> ikonia, I disagree, because as soon as something goes wrong it's going to be "oh noes, the 13.10 upgrade broken everything! Why does Ubuntu never work right"
[21:31] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum | vortexx
[21:32] <ikonia> tgm4883: I agree, and he'll be reminded of the warnings he ignored
[21:32] <tgm4883> he's got 2 laptops, a PC and an ipad yet can't temp move his files to partition properly?
[21:33] <vortexx> thanks wilee-nilee ubottu
[21:33] <k1l_> tgm4883: some people dont want the easy way. you cant rescue them
[21:33] <tgm4883> k1l_, true
[21:33] <wilee-nilee> sooner or later if they have any cognotive abilities they will fail hard enough to do the correctly, hopefully. ;)
[21:33] <k1l_> *all of them
[21:33] <tgm4883> k1l_, unfortunately, it's those same people that fail to understand the importance of backups
[21:34] <suore> anyone can helme with xbox360 pad? i want to play in BPM )Big pucture mode)
[21:38] <strit> I feel a great sense of accomplishment. I fixed my black screen problem and my keyboard problem today. :)
[21:39] <unicornjedi> Hello, i need some helllllp pleaseee. I cant upgrade my ubuntu 13.04  to saucy salamander
[21:39] <strit> unicornjedi, any error?
[21:39] <unicornjedi> the upgrade process stops when it is calculating changes
[21:39] <strit> unicornjedi, just stops or closes down?
[21:40] <Marlenee> anyone good in setting up hidden cron job !!
[21:40] <unicornjedi> :'(  it stops when it tells me it could not calculate changes
[21:40] <unicornjedi> then it closes after I click ok
[21:40] <ikonia> Marlenee: cronjobs are not hidden
[21:41] <unicornjedi> what do you think strit?
[21:41] <strit> unicornjedi, most be a log somewhere. How much free space you have on your / partition?
[21:41] <jayar> can i upgrade from 12.04 - 13.10 without reinstalling?
[21:41] <strit> jayar, sure you can. :)
[21:41] <unicornjedi> i have a log
[21:42] <unicornjedi> unicornjedi@unicornjedi-MS-7693:~$ grep Broken /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.logBroken libwayland-client0:amd64 Conflicts on libwayland0 [ amd64 ] < 1.0.5-0ubuntu1 > ( libs ) (< 1.1.0)
[21:42] <unicornjedi> Broken libunity9:amd64 Breaks on unity-common [ amd64 ] < 7.0.0daily13.06.19~13.04-0ubuntu1 > ( gnome ) (< 7.1.2)
[21:42] <unicornjedi> Broken libpam-systemd:amd64 Conflicts on libpam-xdg-support [ amd64 ] < 0.2-0ubuntu2 > ( admin )
[21:42] <unicornjedi> Broken cups-filters:amd64 Conflicts on ghostscript-cups [ amd64 ] < 9.07~dfsg2-0ubuntu3.1 > ( text )
[21:42] <unicornjedi> Broken libharfbuzz0a:amd64 Breaks on libharfbuzz0 [ amd64 ] < 0.9.13-1 > ( libs )
[21:42] <FloodBot1> unicornjedi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:42] <Trudko> guys I wanted to download all images from one webpage so I run wget -r -P C:/test/ -A jpg http://www.buzzfeed.com/expresident/most-powerful-photographs-ever-taken but it is not downloading the images logs http://pastie.org/8413006
[21:42] <unicornjedi> Broken libunity-scopes-json-def-desktop:amd64 Conflicts on libunity-common [ amd64 ] < 6.90.2daily13.04.05-0ubuntu1 > ( gnome ) (< 7.0.7)
[21:42] <jayar> sudo apt-get upgrade...
[21:42] <jayar> or do i put 13.10 on a usb drive...
[21:43] <strit> jayar, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade I believe.
[21:43] <jayar> yea i thought it was dist somethin
[21:43] <jayar> i'll try that thanx :)
[21:43] <strit> jayar, np
[21:43] <tgm4883> no, it's not dist-upgrade
[21:44] <mrsrikanth> hey guys. i need some help. i just installed ubuntu on my new desktop. the motherboard is asus h87-pro. i need to install intel graphics drivers. I followed some instruction on the online forums.
[21:44] <tgm4883> jayar, strit it's 'update-manager -c', and you'll have to upgrade to 13.04 first
[21:44] <mrsrikanth> but nothing seems to help
[21:45] <ikonia> mrsrikanth: you should not need anything from intel
[21:45] <mrsrikanth> the movies played on vlc and mplayer have a green screen
[21:45] <ikonia> mrsrikanth: intel xorg modules are installed by default
[21:45] <jayar> dist-upgrade is doin somethin... its downloading 181mb...
[21:45] <strit> tgm4883, ah, he was from 12.04. thought it was 13.04. :P
[21:45] <mrsrikanth> ikonia, so any reason why I still get green screen for movies?
[21:46] <tgm4883> jayar, yes. It's downloading packages that a regular 'apt-get upgrade' won't. eg. new packages such as kernel upgrades
[21:46] <mrsrikanth> the grahics driver seems to be "unknown" in the settings menu
[21:46] <ikonia> mrsrikanth: miss-configured ? bug ? video player not setup ?, bad codec ?
[21:46] <jayar> gotchya. i dont mind reinstalling, i kinda wanna run nginx on it instead of apache anyway...
[21:46] <Marlenee> ikonia : is anyway to hide cron job
[21:46] <unicornjedi> strit, do you think you can help me?
[21:46] <ikonia> Marlenee: why ?
[21:46] <jayar> but i'll try update-manager first
[21:46] <ikonia> Marlenee: why are you trying to "hide" a cron job
[21:47] <Pici> Marlenee: or maybe you should clarify what you mean by "hide"
[21:48] <mrsrikanth> ikonia, how do I check if it is misconfigured?
[21:48] <shader> so, I'm trying to install gcc-4.8 with apt-get, and I'm getting dependency errors saying "but it's not going to be installed", and "Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages"
[21:48] <ikonia> mrsrikanth: a good basic start would be a.) understand what video card you have b.) look at what xorg module/version supports it fully
[21:48] <shader> any basic approaches to fixing the problem?
[21:48] <ikonia> shader: look at what's causing the conflict, and what repos they are in and why they are conflicting
[21:48] <ikonia> shader: that is the basic approach
[21:49] <shader> how do I find out why they are conflicting?
[21:49] <ikonia> shader: if you do what I suggested it should be obvious why they are conflicting
[21:50] <shader> "Depends: cpp-4.8:i386 (= 4.8.1-2ubuntu1~12.10.3) but it is not going to be installed" - that's all that it says
[21:50] <shader> well, there are more lines like that
[21:51] <ikonia> shader: so you don't want the basic approach - you want someone to do it for you
[21:51] <shader> but not a lot of detail on why it's not being installed
[21:51] <ikonia> shader: look at where that package is, check what repo the package is in
[21:52] <Marlenee> Pici : i mean no one can see what is job running
[21:52] <ikonia> Marlenee: why ?
[21:52] <ikonia> Marlenee: why do you want that ?
[21:52] <Pici> Marlenee: I'm unaware of anyway to hide processes on Linux
[21:52] <pepper> I have a problem with WINE if anyone is available at the time to help?
[21:52] <ikonia> pepper: the guys in #winehq ?
[21:53] <k1l_> pepper: best is to ask the specialists at wine
[21:53] <ikonia> or not use wine....
[21:54] <mrsrikanth> ikonia, i dont have a video card. it is integrated graphics. lspci says it is xeon e3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller
[21:54] <mrsrikanth> and i'm running a i915 driver (based on lshw output)
[21:54] <ikonia> mrsrikanth: right, so that "is" a video card, you need to look at what xorg module supports that
[21:55] <pianogmx> i downloaded eclipse from their website but the menus for the program isn't showing up...
[21:55] <pepper> I don't know if it is the specific application that I was trying to install with WINE or if it is just a wine error.
[21:55] <ikonia> pepper: so asking the wine guys would clarify that
[21:56] <pianogmx> the File menus... and etc
[21:56] <unicornjedi> I need help please. when I try to upgrade to ubuntu raring ringtail to ubuntu saucy salamander, it fails when "sudo do-release-upgrade" tries to calculate changes.
[21:57] <ikonia> unicornjedi: do you have 3rd party repos or PPA's ?
[21:57] <unicornjedi> ikonia: Yes
[21:57] <ikonia> unicornjedi: that is why then, you've not read the upgrade notes
[21:57] <ikonia> unicornjedi: I suggest reading the basic information before blindly asking for help, or blindly typing upgrade commands
[21:58] <unicornjedi> ikonia: let me disable my ppa's and see what happens
[21:58] <tgm4883> unicornjedi, or blindly typing any commands
[21:58] <ikonia> unicornjedi: no
[21:58] <ikonia> unicornjedi: READ the information
[21:59] <ikonia> unicornjedi: you're failing because you are not reading the information, so reading 1 line I typed and blindly typing upgrade again is why you will fail and break your system, and deserve to fail
[21:59] <SchrodingersScat> !upgrade | unicornjedi
[21:59] <tgm4883> ikonia, the upgrade utility should need a code before you can upgrade. eg. "enter the 4th word of the 6th paragraph of the upgrade documentation"
[22:00] <ikonia> tgm4883: to be honest, it should just quit, or blindly upgrade and punish those who do this sort of thing
[22:00] <tgm4883> hmm, I could get on board with punishing
[22:00] <BauerPiepenbrink> good evening everyone, has anybody some minutes in spare to help me out? i have a problem with samba and MacOSX
[22:01] <ikonia> BauerPiepenbrink: how does it fit into ubuntu ? better to clarify what ubuntu help you need
[22:01] <unicornjedi> I read the upgrade notes before upgrading... it doesn't say aything
[22:02] <jubale> How do we tell which audio driver we're using (ALSA, Pulse, etc.)?
[22:02] <hewhomust> !ppa
[22:02] <BauerPiepenbrink> ikonia: sorry. samba is running on a ubuntu 12.04 server and it seems i can't copy properly from my Mac to the ubuntu network shares
[22:02] <hewhomust> !ppa-purge
[22:03] <hewhomust> where are the ppa's stored?
[22:03] <unicornjedi> I ran "sudo do-release-upgrade" and "sudo apt-get", "sudo apt-get upgrade", "sudo apt-get install", sudo apt-get autoclean", "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[22:03] <cuddylier> Hi
[22:04] <k1l_> hewhomust: use ppa-purge for removing them
[22:04] <cuddylier> Why does my website say internal server error for this htaccess file? http://pastebin.com/R0C10RcK and website is: http://billing.spartanhost.net
[22:04] <tgm4883> unicornjedi, ... why?
[22:04] <MegaQuaggan> Anyone use an external sound card and have problems with audio skipping?
[22:04] <ikonia> unicornjedi: this is why you fail - you are just typing random command
[22:05] <ikonia> unicornjedi: "apt-get install" - install what ? that's not even a valid command
[22:05] <unicornjedi> ign4883: because the upgrade wont work. What do suggest I do
[22:05] <ikonia> unicornjedi: not typing random commands is what you should do
[22:05] <tgm4883> !tab | unicornjedi
[22:05] <pianogmx> has anyone have menus disappear with eclipse (downloaded from the website) ?
[22:05] <tgm4883> unicornjedi, well first, I suggest you don't just blindly type random commands into your terminal expecting them to do something
[22:06] <ikonia> unicornjedi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes the line "Using packages from repositories not controlled by Ubuntu is not recommended as it can be a security risk and may break or complicate your upgrade"
[22:06] <unicornjedi> igm4883: Tab is not working....
[22:06] <ikonia> unicornjedi: so you've "not" read the upgrade notes, or you'd see that line
[22:06] <tgm4883> unicornjedi, that is because my name doesn't start with the letter i
[22:06] <ikonia> it's got a big red "warning hand" next to it, so that you don't miss it...if you read the documents
[22:06] <unicornjedi> tgm4883, thx
[22:07] <unicornjedi> ikonia, how should I disable my ppas? ppa-purge? or in software-properties-gtk
[22:08] <compdoc> anyone got a remote desktop server working for 13.10?
[22:08] <ikonia> unicornjedi: I strongly suggest you READ the page I've just linked to, and not the one line I've just pasted, to make sure everything else is setup correctly
[22:08] <SuperLag> Every damn time I do anything with the mic, like get on a Skype call, the "Mic Boost" goes up to 100%. How do I stop that from happening? It makes any kind of call very unpleasant and loud.
[22:09] <SuperLag> jubale: I think pulse is default now.
[22:09] <jubale> Oh, cool.
[22:09] <unicornjedi> ikonia, the link you sent me is for upgrading to 13.04
[22:09] <ikonia> unicornjedi: yes, ubuntu totally fails are releasing documentation before the release, the process is still the same
[22:10] <BeyerD> Q: are there estimates or measurements for population counts of users between the different *buntu distributions?
[22:10] <ikonia> BeyerD: where ?
[22:11] <BeyerD> ..that's what I'm asking. Does such a thing exist?
[22:11] <IdleOne> BeyerD: no, Ubuntu doesn't keep those sorts of statistics
[22:11] <ikonia> BeyerD: no idea.
[22:11] <unicornjedi> ikonia, so I should "remove" all my 3rd party and unsupported software? That seems inefficient...
[22:11] <ikonia> unicornjedi: it you install "bad" software on your machine, you can't expect ubuntu's core upgrade to work with it in place.
[22:12] <ikonia> but you're asking the wrong person as I think the whole PPA idea is flawed beyond repair
[22:12] <unicornjedi> ikonia, i checked this bug on launchpad and it says to remove the xorg edgers ppa
[22:13] <unicornjedi> ikonia, i tried doing that using ppa-purge but i still can't remove that junk
[22:13] <ikonia> unicornjedi: the page I've just linked to say remove all 3rd party software
[22:13] <Trudko> guys I wanted to download all images from one webpage so I run wget -r -P C:/test/ -A jpg http://www.buzzfeed.com/expresident/most-powerful-photographs-ever-taken but it is not downloading the images logs http://pastie.org/8413006
[22:13] <ikonia> Trudko: c:\ doesn't exist on ubuntu
[22:14] <Trudko> ikonia: i am using cygwin
[22:14] <ikonia> Trudko: so it's nothing to do with ubuntu then
[22:14] <Trudko> wget is the same
[22:14] <ikonia> Trudko: yes, but we don't support wget, we support ubuntu here
[22:14] <unicornjedi> ikonia, thats so lame though.... I don't want to have to install them all again. I have like 50+ programsD:
[22:15] <ikonia> unicornjedi: that's your issue sadly, it's a limitation of you installing software from people who don't maintain it line with the ubuntu upgrades
[22:16] <unicornjedi> ikonia,  do you think i'll be able to run the upgrade in a month and have it work?
[22:16] <ikonia> unicornjedi: no
[22:16] <tgm4883> unicornjedi, asking that indicates you think it's a bug that needs fixed
[22:17] <unicornjedi> are upgrades usually like this?
[22:17] <tgm4883> IDK, I don't upgrade
[22:17] <ikonia> unicornjedi: if you install random 3rd party software, yes
[22:18] <ikonia> unicornjedi: more so if that software changes the core products that the upgrade wants to upgrade
[22:19] <BauerPiepenbrink> ikonia, you seem to be the right person to ask for help. do you mind if i add my sorrows to this endless flood you are multitasking on?
[22:19] <unicornjedi> ikonia, I have a great idea. What if I change all my PPA's value from raring to saucy
[22:19] <ikonia> unicornjedi: no no no no no
[22:20] <ikonia> BauerPiepenbrink: apologies, have I missed the bit where you explained the problem
[22:20] <tgm4883> unicornjedi, ffs, have you even read the links provided?
[22:20] <BauerPiepenbrink> ikonia: no, starting right now
[22:20] <unicornjedi> tgm4883, what is ffs?
[22:21] <tgm4883> unicornjedi, never mind
[22:21] <ObrienDave> LOL
[22:21] <unicornjedi> tgm4883, I read the part with the giant red hand on it.....
[22:22] <ikonia> unicornjedi: so you read that is said "remove all software"
[22:23] <ikonia> unicornjedi: to be %100 honest, if you'v got 50 PPA's installed as you said, I suspect you machine will never upgrade as the odds of them not updating core packages are slim
[22:23] <BauerPiepenbrink> i have a fresh install of ubuntu 12.04 running smba as an NAS for my LAN. the FS on the raid5 i use is exfat (sorry for the 3rd party module) because i want to use the NAS for Mac and Windows machines. my problem is, the mac doesn't copy properly onto the NAS. it starts with the first file, then stops and tells my i dont have the permission to write on the drive. however, the first file is copied successfully
[22:23] <ikonia> unicornjedi: I appreciate that's not what you want to hear, but got to be clear
[22:23] <unicornjedi> ikonia, Is there a way to force upgrade?
[22:23] <BauerPiepenbrink> ikonia, i forgot to highlight you on my last post (the long one)
[22:23] <ikonia> unicornjedi: no
[22:24] <ikonia> BauerPiepenbrink: ok, so the first thing is, the file system on the NAS doesn't matter, as it's being shared out as "samba" so you don't need to use exfat
[22:24] <BauerPiepenbrink> good news, didn't know that
[22:25] <ikonia> BauerPiepenbrink: second question, are you using a guest account or an authenicated user account ?
[22:25] <unicornjedi> ikonia, well I'd like you to help me with one last thing
[22:25] <BauerPiepenbrink> its a user account, registered by adduser and smbpasswd
[22:25] <BauerPiepenbrink> same account works from the win-machine
[22:25] <ikonia> BauerPiepenbrink: ok, so if you copy 3 files one at a time, do they all go across ?
[22:25] <mrsrikanth> ikonia, thanks for your help
[22:26] <ikonia> mrsrikanth: no problem
[22:26] <unicornjedi> ikonia, When I run ppa-purge it fails saying "apt-get failed for some reason"
[22:26] <ikonia> unicornjedi: it actually says "apt-get failed for some reason"
[22:26] <BauerPiepenbrink> ikonia: they do, but the mac prompts everytime i have no permission to do so
[22:26] <ikonia> BauerPiepenbrink: but even though it prompts you, it lets you copy ?
[22:27] <BauerPiepenbrink> yep. transfer is successfull
[22:27] <unicornjedi> ikonia, im pretty sure
[22:27] <ikonia> BauerPiepenbrink: odd little glitch, what does the samba logs say ?
[22:27] <ikonia> unicornjedi: that seems an odd error message, I'd suggest checking it and reporting the error message accuratly
[22:27] <BauerPiepenbrink> i'll have a look and report back in a minute
[22:28] <davidkron> Fuck, i am unable to close an annoing process with killall
[22:28] <ikonia> davidkron: no need for that language, it's not acceptable in this channel
[22:28] <sarsaeol> kill -9
[22:29] <sarsaeol> davidkron ^^
[22:29] <unicornjedi> Warning:  apt-get update failed for some reason
[22:30] <unicornjedi> ikonia, just ran ppa-purge, "Warning:  apt-get update failed for some reason"
[22:30] <ikonia> unicornjedi: try running "sudo apt-get update" to get better output
[22:30] <we6jbo> I got this error when trying to configure vpn. MPPE required, but kernel has no support
[22:31] <davidkron> Guys im really unable to kill this process, nothing happens
[22:31] <ikonia> davidkron: what's the process ?
[22:31] <davidkron> dontstarve_steam
[22:31] <ikonia> davidkron: who owns it ?
[22:31] <davidkron> i do
[22:32] <davidkron> "david"
[22:32] <davidkron> pid is 25014
[22:32] <unicornjedi> ikonia, E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[22:32] <ikonia> unicornjedi: ok, look at which ones fail in the scroll
[22:32] <ikonia> davidkron: what status is the proces in ?
[22:32] <ikonia> davidkron: is the parent still active ?
[22:33] <unicornjedi> ikonia, W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/debfx/virtualbox/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[22:33] <unicornjedi> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/debfx/virtualbox/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[22:33] <ikonia> unicornjedi: ok, so those PPA's are dead
[22:33] <unicornjedi> ikonia, will ppa-purge work after that?
[22:33] <ikonia> unicornjedi: if there are no errors, it should
[22:34] <ikonia> but due to the ammount of ppa's you've got, I'd be surprised if it worked
[22:34] <hewhomust> i would just do it manually
[22:34] <BauerPiepenbrink> ikonia, this seems to be the log entry to my failed copy-task: param/loadparm.c:8843(check_usershare_stat)   check_usershare_stat: file /var/lib/samba/usershares/ owned by uid 0 is not a regular file
[22:35] <ikonia> BauerPiepenbrink: that seems odd, check the owner of that file (although I'm not sure why root owning it is a problem)
[22:35] <unicornjedi> ikonia, One last thing, I have found some broken packages that may be holding my upgrade back... please take a look at my pastebin
[22:35] <ikonia> unicornjedi: just remove them
[22:36] <unicornjedi> iknoia, there is quiet a few of them
[22:36] <ikonia> unicornjedi: that doesn't change the fact they are broken, fix them, or remove them
[22:36] <ikonia> unicornjedi: to be honest, your machine sounds a mess, I wouldn't consider upgrading it if I where you
[22:36] <ikonia> unicornjedi: that's not me being rude, just honest
[22:37] <unicornjedi> ikonia, Haha, yes I'm new to the linux world. I've been using it for 2 years
[22:37] <hewhomust> yeah often better just to reinstall
[22:38] <jrib> is there a standard way for me to template config files?
[22:38] <unicornjedi> hewhommust, sike
[22:38] <BauerPiepenbrink> ikonia, i'm not quite sure if that entry is the right one. its the last one though. it seems only my mac has issues with samba, ubuntu seems to see no problem. but i know for fact that my mac can work woth samba servers in general
[22:38] <ikonia> BauerPiepenbrink: mac's should have no issue.
[22:39] <unicornjedi> ikonia, please stay for a little longer... I'm retrying the upgrade process now
[22:39] <ikonia> unicornjedi: sorry - time to call it a day on your issue
[22:39] <theaugerfiller> \\\\\/leave
[22:39] <discovery7471> Sorry to interrupt ... I am new to Ubuntu and IRC ... hence I do not even know how to properly introduce myself here in IRC ... anyway, technically and to the problem speaking, about myself, I am a power Windows user needing beginner yet complex help with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS ... running Ubuntu as Virtual Machine in VMware ... I would appreciate TeamViewer and voice via Yahoo Messenger ... my YM
[22:39] <discovery7471> is discovery747 ... anyone willing and available to try help?
[22:40] <ikonia> discovery7471: just ask your problem, and if people can help, they will talk to you in IRC
[22:40] <discovery7471> Thnk you for the kind reply ... I will try ask ...
[22:40] <BauerPiepenbrink> ikonia, but no error logs on the ubuntu. could the file ownerships be any problem for samba, working with a exfat-share?
[22:40] <hewhomust> unicornjedi: did you run apt-get update yet
[22:41] <unicornjedi> ikonia, thanks for all your help, and I admire your snarkyness. Continue to use your knowledge of Linux. :)
[22:41] <bsdfox> anyone using nfsroot on 13.10? after a dist-upgrade I seem to have a race condition starting/stopping idmapd and statd. I was able to boot 3.8.0 kernel at least to the console so I suspect it's kernel related somehow. googling shows people encountering similar issues all the way back to 2009
[22:41] <ikonia> BauerPiepenbrink: look at that error it "could" be a problem, but I can't see why
[22:41] <unicornjedi> hewhomust, are you serious? That's like the first thing I tried
[22:42] <hewhomust> dist-upgrade yet?
[22:42] <unicornjedi> hewhomust, yep
[22:43] <BauerPiepenbrink> ikonia, actually, i dont understand that error-msg. an if i reproduce the problem, there are no new entries in the samba log. so maybe that entry is not about the problem i have
[22:43] <hewhomust> then what happens with the do-release-upgrade?
[22:43] <ikonia> BauerPiepenbrink: hat at least makes sense.
[22:43] <ikonia> BauerPiepenbrink: on your mac desktop, can you mount the ubuntu samba share ?
[22:43] <BauerPiepenbrink> ikonia, i'm sorry, my mistake. that entry is about 24 hours old. didn't realise today is already tomorrow
[22:44] <ikonia> BauerPiepenbrink: not a problem
[22:44] <BauerPiepenbrink> ikonia yes i can
[22:44] <unicornjedi> hewhomust, it fails when it calculate changes
[22:44] <ikonia> BauerPiepenbrink: the only time I've ever seen anything like this was on a machine with a network problem that kept breaking the authentication
[22:44] <ikonia> BauerPiepenbrink: but it wasn't quite the same
[22:45] <ikonia> BauerPiepenbrink: is the user you created on the samba machine, the same as the username as the user mounting on the mac
[22:46] <benutzer> is there a good place to get linux commands for a newbie?
[22:46] <BauerPiepenbrink> nope, its different. i have to login with other username/password than on my mac
[22:46] <BauerPiepenbrink> login to the samba share if i want to mount it
[22:46] <ikonia> BauerPiepenbrink: as a test, create a new samba user on the server that matches the mac username
[22:46] <hewhomust> unicornjedi: have you removed the broken ppa's?
[22:46] <BauerPiepenbrink> i have a space in the Mac username. will samba do that?
[22:47] <ikonia> BauerPiepenbrink: a good question, that I don't know the answer to, I'd guess "yes", but don't know
[22:47] <unicornjedi> hewhomust, I thought i did..... for some reason the broken ppa came back
[22:47] <unicornjedi> hewhomust, I'll just purge it this time
[22:47] <BauerPiepenbrink> i try anyway. brb
[22:47] <hewhomust> can you go here /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[22:48] <hewhomust> see if its still there
[22:48] <BauerPiepenbrink> could someone post a backslash, please?
[22:49] <BauerPiepenbrink> no kidding
[22:49] <hewhomust> b/\
[22:49] <BauerPiepenbrink> cheers, hewhomust
[22:49] <hewhomust> broken key lol?
[22:49] <BauerPiepenbrink> mac keyboard. never figured out where this thing is
[22:50] <unicornjedi> hewhomust, Im reading that joint
[22:50] <ssfdre38> im getting an apache error when i just updated my server from 13.04 to 13.10 http://pastebin.com/sSCxUKfz
[22:51] <hewhomust> is 13.10 out yet?
[22:51] <hewhomust> !13.10
[22:51] <ssfdre38> only for servers
[22:51] <BauerPiepenbrink> ikonia: quick reminder for me, in default all my samba users have to be ubuntu users as well, right?
[22:51] <chare> whats taking so long for Trusty Tahr to be released?
[22:52] <unicornjedi> hewhomust, okay I remove the ppa again
[22:52] <BauerPiepenbrink> im looking forward for drunken duck
[22:52] <IdleOne> chare: you serious? the code name was just announced today. 14.04 will be released in 6 months
[22:52] <hewhomust> yeah if your'e in the folder just delete it
[22:52] <ikonia> BauerPiepenbrink: that's the best way to do it, yes
[22:53] <chare> IdleOne: I'm impatient :)
[22:53] <IdleOne> chare: So am I. play elsewhere
[22:53] <ssfdre38> so yea does anyone know how to fix that problem cause it just started to happen today when i upgraded my server
[22:55] <BauerPiepenbrink> ikonia, it wont let me do that. anyway the login name works fine from the windows machine, which also has a different system-username
[22:56] <ikonia> BauerPiepenbrink: need to do a bit of research on this, seems an odd glitch
[22:56] <ikonia> BauerPiepenbrink: maybe worth checking the mac's stability on the network
[22:56] <SourceSlayer> Hey
[22:57] <BauerPiepenbrink> ikonia i still think it has to do with the unability of exfat to cope with flags and ownerships
[22:57] <hewhomust> hi
[22:57] <jetro> ok I just tried installing ubuntu alongside windows 7. I made a seperate partition for ubuntu. Tried installing. I got a bunch of errors and now I windows 7 is not loading any more
[22:57] <jpedroza2k> ssfdre38, what is on line 74 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf?
[22:57] <BauerPiepenbrink> what do you mean by stability?
[22:57] <discovery7471> The answer I got on my prior posting in order to get help from you kind guys, was to forget about Yahoo Messenger and TeamViewer and just ask my questions here ... I do not think I will be able to progress this way, but I try do as directed ... so one of my fundamental question and problem to begin with may be  => Is it OK, for the purpose of learning, to have Ubuntu installed as Virtual Machine
[22:57] <discovery7471> in VMware? This poses additional VMware issues like from Ubuntu how can I see, if at all possible, see and save info to my NTFS Windows 7 many partitions? ... <Background repeated > ... Sorry to interrupt ... I am new to Ubuntu and IRC ... hence I do not even know how to properly introduce myself here in IRC ... anyway, technically and to the problem speaking, about myself, I am a power Windows
[22:57] <discovery7471> user needing beginner yet complex help with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS ... running Ubuntu as Virtual Machine in VMware ... I would appreciate TeamViewer and voice via Yahoo Messenger ... my YM is discovery747 ... anyone willing and available to try help?
[22:57] <FloodBot1> discovery7471: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:57] <hewhomust> fuck
[22:57] <SourceSlayer> I was running Ubuntu and the orange/yellow window dragging screen got stuck.
[22:57] <Michael> I am trying to run webmin on an ec2 instance, so I do not have the password. I've tried following the help guide, but it cannot find the rest file http://www.webmin.com/faq.html
[22:57] <BauerPiepenbrink> ikonia what do you mean by stability?
[22:57] <jpedroza2k> ssfdre38, it looks like there is an error with the variable you are using in the apache2 config file.
[22:58] <zykotick9> !webmin | Michael
[22:58] <hewhomust> jetro: what happens when you boot up?
[22:58] <SourceSlayer> So I opened the terminal and ran "sudo restart lightdm" and now I'm running in "Low Graphics Mode"..
[22:58] <SourceSlayer> .
[22:58] <jpedroza2k> hewhomust, language, please.
[22:58] <SourceSlayer> How do I fixed this?
[22:58] <ssfdre38> jpedroza2k, all im using is what came with the updates
[22:58] <ikonia> BauerPiepenbrink: make sure it's not dropping packets
[22:58] <SourceSlayer> When I installed I just used default settings.
[22:58] <ssfdre38> jpedroza2k, Mutex file:${APACHE_LOCK_DIR} default
[22:58] <Michael> ubotto: Is there a similar program you would suggest?
[22:58] <hewhomust> ubotto is a bot
[22:58] <sleezio> hello, just installed 13.10(first time using ubuntu) i looked through the software center for "weather" but i didn't see any weather related apps(except for a china version) does anyone know of a weather app by name i can search for that'll work on 13.10?
[22:59] <BauerPiepenbrink> ikonia ah. no worrys about that. while recopying all my stuff to the NAS i didnt lose a packet in 3.4 TB
[22:59] <jpedroza2k> ssfdre38, let me look on my server and see what I have on that line
[22:59] <Michael> hewhomust: thanks, I'm pretty you pass my turing test as well. Any ideas?
[22:59] <jetro> hewhomust, it says windows failed to start. A recent hardware or software change might be the cause. Then it gives me two options, Launch Startup Repair, or Start Windows Normally
[23:00] <hewhomust> jetro: what is this gpt or mbr?
[23:00] <hewhomust> and how did you install ubuntu
[23:00] <BauerPiepenbrink> ikonia but now i know samba could deal with a extX-filesystem for the share as well, i might try that. maybe its worth the effort if the files keep their ownerflags and properties
[23:01] <sam113101> did the font change from ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10?
[23:01] <jpedroza2k> ssfdre38, IS that variable defined in /etc/apache2/envvars?
[23:01] <sam113101> not sure if bug or new font
[23:01] <jetro> hewhomust, I used easeUS partition manager to create a new partition on my hard drive. Then I burned ubuntu 12.04 on a dvd, and booted from the dvd
[23:02] <ssfdre38> yes
[23:02] <BauerPiepenbrink> ikonia: did i get you right, it doesnt matter which FS i choose for the raid, samba will be available for all the machines? even an ext4 or something like that? which one would you choose for a raid5 with filesizes over 20GB?
[23:02] <jpedroza2k> ssfdre38, Can you PM or pastebin me the definition line in envvars?
[23:02] <hewhomust> jetro: I would try removing ubuntu then starting again, go into windows then delete the partitions with ubunto on it
[23:03] <ikonia> BauerPiepenbrink: stick ext4 on it,
[23:03] <jetro> hewhomust, ubuntu did not install properly, so now my laptop has no running OS
[23:03] <jpedroza2k> ssfdre38, What are the permissions on the envvars file?
[23:03] <jetro> do you want me to give you the error messages I got?
[23:03] <ssfdre38> 644 root/root
[23:04] <hewhomust> jetro: then i would use a live cd and y everything off thats valuable
[23:04] <hewhomust> copy
[23:04] <ssfdre38> http://pastebin.com/R5juVjhw
[23:04] <jpedroza2k> ssfdre38, That looks correct as well...
[23:04] <jetro> hewhomust, how can I do that? popping in the live cd now
[23:04] <BauerPiepenbrink> ikonia ok, so i will check the backups, format the drive, recopy everything and report back if that helped my problem. i hope i get that right after a bottle of wine :)
[23:04] <hewhomust> you need to mount the ntfs partition
[23:04] <hewhomust> and then copy it to a harddrive
[23:04] <unicornjedi> hewhomust! I GOT THE UPGRADE WORKING
[23:05] <hewhomust> cool
[23:05] <unicornjedi> all I had to do was purge xorg edgers...
[23:05] <high_fiver> VirtualBox and Ubuntu 13.10 buggy?
[23:05] <high_fiver> *with guest additions?
[23:05] <bekks> high_fiver: No.
[23:05] <hewhomust> do you have a external hard-drive
[23:05] <unicornjedi> well thanks for your help hewhommust
[23:05] <hewhomust> np lol
[23:05] <usclsu> The prices for Ubuntu Advantage: Is that annually, or monthly, what?
[23:05] <hewhomust> not that i did much
[23:06] <hewhomust> jetro: are you in the live cd
[23:06] <jetro> hewhomust, apologizes but I am a total newbie to linux, I was installing ubuntu alongside windows to learn more about it. I have the live cd runnng, how can I mount the ntfs partition?
[23:07] <jpedroza2k> ssfdre38, Checking a few things. One second please.
[23:07] <usclsu> this here, what is the billing period? http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/management
[23:07] <BauerPiepenbrink> ikonia, do you mind if i ask you if you do this for fun? supporting noobs like me asking for the command to install the internet?
[23:07] <MegaBrutal> Hi jetro, yes, that should be possible.
[23:07] <oem> unity web player
[23:07] <ikonia> BauerPiepenbrink: just happy to help
[23:07] <Fyodorovna> usclsu, I have never seen it mentioned here I wpoild check with canonical, this chanell is not canonoical.
[23:07] <unicornjedi> ikonia, I got the upgrade to work by just removing xorg edgers
[23:08] <MegaBrutal> jetro: I'd condider mounting it in read-only though. Unless you need to write to it.
[23:08] <unicornjedi> ikonia, thanks again for your help.
[23:08] <Huleno> properties > home folder and the size of the contents were listed as
[23:08] <ikonia> unicornjedi: I honestly wouldn't trust the upgrade.
[23:08] <jpedroza2k> ssfdre38, How did you start apache2? With init.d or apache2ctl?
[23:08] <ssfdre38> init.d or service
[23:08] <jetro> MegaBrutal, yeah I just need to get the important files off of my hard drive. So read only should be fine
[23:09] <unicornjedi> ikonia, too late... its starting to upgrade.. Ill let you know how it goes if your still on
[23:09] <Huleno> (cont.) 128 TB on a 50oG system. How could that be?
[23:09] <hewhomust> Huleno: you really lucky lol
[23:09] <jpedroza2k> ssfdre38, What happens if you issue the command sudo apache2ctl -M
[23:09] <ssfdre38> hold on restarting the server
[23:09] <jpedroza2k> can you pastebin me the output?
[23:10] <BauerPiepenbrink> ikonia great. i like such thinking. i'm sad my profession is way off ubuntu and i wouldn't be of any help here. anyway thanks for your support. you did some impressive multitasking while i was watching :)
[23:10] <ssfdre38> yea when its up
[23:10] <MegaBrutal> jetro: Are you OK to use the command-line or you'd rather like to do it on the GUI? (I think you can't mount in read-only from GUI, though.)
[23:10] <jetro> MegaBrutal, I clicked on home folder and am able to see all my files
[23:10] <jetro> can I just copy them over to a usb stick?
[23:10] <hewhomust> jetro: then copy them off
[23:10] <hewhomust> try
[23:11] <MegaBrutal> jetro: Yes. :)
[23:11] <hewhomust> this is ubuntu though not windows?
[23:11] <rootpt> im getting an error when i try to update ubuntu to 13.10, can someone help me ?
[23:11] <jetro> awesome! I will probably just get rid of windows all together after this and dive into ubuntu
[23:11] <mintpc> hey, I have a problem with my pc, I have a win8 and ubuntu dual boot, is there a way to remove ubuntu within windows and still have it boot?
[23:11] <hewhomust> mintpc do you have a cd?
[23:11] <MegaBrutal> jetro: Though... if it's a Live CD... be sure you actually copy it on the pendrive and not into the ramdrive created by the Live CD.
[23:11] <hewhomust> windows
[23:12] <hewhomust> if you do just delete the ubuntu partition
[23:12] <mintpc> hewhomust: yes, but id perfer to do it within windows
[23:12] <hewhomust> mintpc easiest way is to use windows disc
[23:12] <James_Epp> hey guys. So I followed the overview at this guide ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet#A_variation:_Booting_the_.22Live_CD.22_image ) with some variations to fit the more recent days of 12.04 and I successfully have networked machines booting to the ubuntu live environment for ubuntu installations. However, a major issue is being experienced. Both during this live environment, and when ubuntu is installed, the wir
[23:12] <James_Epp> environment it still has 100% network and internet access, but in the installed copy it has absolutely no network abilities. Suggestions?
[23:12] <Fyodorovna> mintpc, not enough info to really answer definitivly.
[23:13] <jetro> MegaBrutal, thanks for the tip, after copying to a usb stick I am going to transfer everything to my desktop just be safe
[23:13] <hewhomust> Fyodorovna,: just delete ubuntu boot repair
[23:13] <mintpc> Fyodorovna: what info do you need
[23:13] <hewhomust> i have done this so many times lol
[23:13] <tapout> will printers like the cp9800dw work in ubuntu?
[23:14] <mintpc> and i dont have my install disk, windows came pre-installed
[23:14] <hewhomust> why you say you have install disc
[23:14] <k1l_> mintpc: if its plain ubuntu just remove the partition form ubuntu and reinstall the windows bootloader.
[23:14] <Fyodorovna> hewhomust, yoir an idiot, bad advice and swearing in the channel, take your meds and get some professional help.
[23:15] <k1l_> mintpc: if you dont have a windows cd ask the windows support how to rewrite the windows bootloader from windows
[23:15] <basichash> Who plays KSP?
[23:16] <jpedroza2k> basichash, Who doesn't? Love that game!
[23:16] <mintpc> k1l_: how do i reinstall the bootloader? I'm kinda new, lol
[23:16] <jpedroza2k> ssfdre38, Any luck?
[23:16] <k1l_> mintpc: ask ##windows
[23:16] <basichash> so definitely worth buying?
[23:16] <MegaBrutal> mintpc: Be careful to properly reinstall the Windows boot code into the MBR, since now GRUB is there.
[23:16] <mintpc> MegaBrutal: ok?
[23:17] <jpedroza2k> basichash, I have had many an enjoyable night with my Kerbins.
[23:17] <k1l_> mintpc: ubuntu cant reinstall the windows bootloader. so please ask there how to do that
[23:17] <basichash> haha good enough for me. just downloading the demo, looks awesome
[23:17] <ssfdre38> jpedroza2k, right now its a no response from my server host
[23:18] <k1l_> !ot | basichash
[23:18] <jpedroza2k> ssfdre38, Is this a local server, or remote?
[23:18] <MegaBrutal> mintpc: Windows recovery console has such a command, "fixmbr", if I remember correctly... in XP... don't have experience with Win 8 though.
[23:18] <MegaBrutal> mintpc: Still it might be a hint to start.
[23:18] <ssfdre38> remote and i sent a hard reboot and contacted them
[23:18] <jpedroza2k> basichash, It runs well under the 13.10 update as well (More on topic there).
[23:18] <linuxuz3r> MegaBrutal, is there a fixmbr for win 8
[23:18] <ssfdre38> if this doesnt work i can remote login to the resuce mode
[23:18] <rannonga> yup
[23:19] <rannonga> win8 has fixmbr
[23:19] <bscrew> Is there a way to add custom system sounds to 13.10?
[23:19] <jpedroza2k> ssfdre38, Sorry, mate. Good luck.
[23:19] <ssfdre38> here we go
[23:20] <jpedroza2k> whatcha got?
[23:20] <basichash> jpedroza2k: I tried running it on my desktop, but I've got some driver issues with my ati 7750 HD, which means I'll have to run it on my shitty windows laptop unfortunately
[23:20] <ssfdre38> http://pastebin.com/1uGa1Skw
[23:20] <MegaBrutal> mintpc: Anyway, best order to do this is to first reinstall the MBR, check if your Windows boots without GRUB showing up, and THEN delete the Ubuntu partitions.
[23:21] <MegaBrutal> mintpc: (Sad that you ever want to delete it, though. :P Ubuntu is awesome.)
[23:21] <jpedroza2k> ssfdre38, Was there a syntax OK line at the end?
[23:21] <ssfdre38> no that is the entire responce
[23:21] <bscrew> is there a way to add custom system sounds to 13.10?
[23:22] <jpedroza2k> Looks like mine, but I have a Syntax OK line at the end...
[23:22] <ssfdre38> well im getting errors from port.conf now if you see from the top
[23:23] <jpedroza2k> Are you using name based VirtualHosts?
[23:23] <jpedroza2k> The seems more like a warning about a deprecated feature.
[23:24] <ssfdre38> yea
[23:25] <jpedroza2k> Are you still getting the error in the log?
[23:25] <ssfdre38> let me pull up the error log
[23:25] <jpedroza2k> If so, the only thing I can think to do would be to purge Apache2 and reinstall
[23:25] <jpedroza2k> (Backup config files of course)
[23:26] <jetro> MegaBrutal, so I am copying over files now. Is there anything I can do afterwards to get windows 7 to boot again; all of my windows 7 file are there, so there should be some way
[23:27] <ssfdre38> jpedroza2k, http://pastebin.com/JAnAhGa9
[23:27] <bean> ssfdre38, you're having apache troubles? let me help you, i work for a hosting company
[23:27] <Huleno> Does anyone know???
[23:28] <ssfdre38> bean, i do to its just config files problems due to upgrades from 13.04 to 13.10
[23:28] <discovery7471> I am using mIRC and see you guys chatting sometimes on complex issues ... NOBODY seems to pick up my question ... am I using IRC correctly? It seems so far an alien world ... I was looking for one on one help if at all possible ... how top use IRC or mIRC for that matter correctly?
[23:28] <discovery7471> <Post 02 repeated> The answer I got on my prior posting in order to get help from you kind guys, was to forget about Yahoo Messenger and TeamViewer and just ask my questions here ... I do not think I will be able to progress this way, but I try do as directed ... so one of my fundamental question and problem to begin with may be  => Is it OK, for the purpose of learning, to have Ubuntu installed
[23:28] <discovery7471> as Virtual Machine in VMware? This poses additional VMware issues like from Ubuntu how can I see, if at all possible, see and save info to my NTFS Windows 7 many partitions? ...
[23:28] <discovery7471> <Post 01 repeated> ... Sorry to interrupt ... I am new to Ubuntu and IRC ... hence I do not even know how to properly introduce myself here in IRC ... anyway, technically and to the problem speaking, about myself, I am a power Windows user needing beginner yet complex help with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS ... running Ubuntu as Virtual Machine in VMware ... I would appreciate TeamViewer and voice via Yahoo
[23:28] <FloodBot1> discovery7471: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:28] <discovery7471> Messenger ... my YM is discovery747 ... anyone willing and available to try help?
[23:28] <MegaBrutal> jetro: In my understanding, you booted a Live CD with a pendrive, but didn't do anything to Windows... In this case, just reboot your PC, remove pendrive, Windows 7 should boot up as usual.
[23:28] <bean> ssfdre38, to me that looks like you have a <Directory> block athat has "Deny from all" in it that isn't necessary.
[23:29] <bean> discovery7471, A) no one will talk to you on YIM. this is the place to talk.
[23:29] <jpedroza2k> discovery7471, If we can help we will, but in here. If you want voice chat or phone support, Canonical offers it for low cost.
[23:29] <ssfdre38> i dont have a directory deny
[23:29] <basichash_> Guys how long does 500g of ribs to take at ~200 C?
[23:29] <reisio> basichash_: a bit
[23:30] <bean> ssfdre38, can you pastebin you're config?
[23:30] <discovery7471> Thank you VERY MUCH !!
[23:30] <bean> discovery7471, you can use it in vmware, that's fine.
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> 200c is a bit high. ;)
[23:30] <basichash_> I've never cooked em before, I need an estimate
[23:30] <basichash_> Dr_Willis: what are your instructions?
[23:30] <cipherboy> Okay, so I asked a few days ago but nobody responded. I am currently running Cinnamon 2.0.2 on Ubuntu 13.04, however, it seems that my gtk theming (say for firefox, etc) and window decorations have switched away from ambiance. I can get partial themeing back if I stop cinnamon settings manager and use the gnome settings mangaer instead, but window decorations stay the same. Suggestions as to how to fix?
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> basichash_:  put them in a crock pot on low for 8 hrs
[23:30] <bean> discovery7471, you can't store the raw data on your NTFS partition, but you can probably create some sort of shared folder.
[23:30] <jpedroza2k> discovery7471, As for running Ubuntu in a VM, I do it all the time.
[23:31] <basichash_> Dr_Willis: Only have an oven xP What are you oven instructions?
[23:31] <bean> cipherboy, I think I saw a bung about that -- I think a fix is coming soon, it might even be in the proposed updates repo already.
[23:31] <Dr_Willis> basichash_:  use a dutch oven on low.
[23:31] <jpedroza2k> discovery7471, I use VirtualBox, and create shared folders between the two environments (as they are on the same computer)
[23:31] <akurilin> Quick question. What does it mean if I install a package from debian unstable? As in, how likely is it to either not work or to overwrite something in the system that something else might be relying on?
[23:31] <cipherboy> bean: Ah goodie. I am upgrading to 13.10 tonight, perhaps it will be fixed there.
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> akurilin:  its a very bad idea to use stuff from the debian repos. it canbreak the whole system
[23:32] <bean> cipherboy, OH I assumed you were on 13.04 already, i'd say give it a try, who knows, it might work!
[23:32] <basichash_> Dr_Willis: haha ok it's like 12:30 and I need to eat, so it's going to have to be asap. How long will it take to cook do you think?
[23:32]  * bean plans on upgrading to 13.10 tonight
[23:32] <akurilin> Dr_Willis, ok cool. got that.
[23:32] <jpedroza2k> discovery7471, You can also install a Samba server on the Linux side and connect to it from windows or whatever your host OS is.
[23:32] <bean> basichash_, alright, this is getting to be off topic.
[23:32] <cipherboy> bean: I am on 13.04, going to update to 13.10.
[23:32] <sleezio> can someone suggest a weather app for 13.10?
[23:33] <bean> cipherboy, i'd say give it a try then!
[23:33] <bean> :)
[23:33] <reisio> sleezio: what country?
[23:33] <wylde> akurilin, If it's package that's not in the ubuntu repos you're better off building from source and installing with checkinstall. IMHO
[23:33] <sleezio> reisio, US
[23:33] <Dr_Willis> sleezio:  webupd8 and omgubuntu mention some in their 'things to do/must have addons for 13.10' postings this week
[23:33] <reisio> sleezio: I'd just assume my own using data from noaa.gov
[23:33] <discovery7471> Thak you for reminding me about Samba ...!
[23:33] <akurilin> wylde, sounds good, done that before. What if I want to automate this for configuration management? Can I use the same checkinstall .deb and just dpkg it?
[23:34] <sleezio> Dr_Willis, thanks
[23:34] <jpedroza2k> Samba is quite good, and can even work with AD
[23:34] <jetro> MegaBrutal, I have ubuntu on a CD, after trying it out, I tried to install. When trying to install I was given 3 options: 1) Install Ubuntu Alongside Windows, 2) Remove everything and then Install, 3) Something else
[23:34] <jetro> I chose 3 and chose to install on a specific partition (that did not have windows os on it)
[23:35] <jetro> but then a bunch of errors came up during installation and windows wont load anymore
[23:35] <jpedroza2k> discovery7471, I have also had success using NFS for Windows clients and NFS server on Linux.
[23:35] <axisys> trying to upgrade andnlos
[23:36] <ssfdre38> got it going now i just need launchpad to reping my server for the cdimg
[23:36] <wylde> akurilin, I can't say I have personal experience in that. I imagine it could be done, although I'd defer to someone a little more knowledgeable than I.
[23:36] <axisys> trying to upgrade to latest and now no network and reboot automatically cancelled since /boot did not have enough space
[23:37] <discovery7471> Why would be a rule to nobody talk via Yahoo Messenger if they make the effort to type here ? My head is dizzying with this messages ... I can understand very little ... sorry for this ...
[23:38] <wylde> akurilin, you could always package after you build it and get your own ppa on launchpad ;) It's little work setting up but handy if it's something you're going to reuse often.
[23:38] <jpedroza2k> discovery7471, As I mentioned in your PM, these chats are logged and can be used in the future if someone has the same issue you have and we are able to help you.
[23:39] <axisys> no network device eth0 or wlan0
[23:39] <jpedroza2k> discovery7471, We are also helping a lot of people (or trying to in my case) and might not be able to switch to another chat program to chat one-on-one.
[23:40] <akurilin> wylde, I actually run into this issue all the time, so I need to set some time aside to start creating my own PPAs. Sounds a bit complex, but hopefully there are good guides out there for people like me who are just starting out.
[23:40] <jpedroza2k> axisys, anything in lspci for the network adapters?
[23:41] <bean> discovery7471, and also... very few people use YIM these days. Even in its hay-day i didnt really use it
[23:41] <MegaBrutal> jetro: If GRUB is already installed properly, then a boot menu show up, allowing you to boot Windows.
[23:41] <wylde> akurilin, If I can manage to do it I'm sure just about anyone can :)
[23:41] <akurilin> wylde, ha, humility is a good trait :)
[23:41] <akurilin> wylde, thanks for taking the time to explain the ropes, appreciated.
[23:42] <MegaBrutal> jetro: After all, we don't know until you try. So I suggest you to try, and in case of problems, boot Live CD again.
[23:42] <jpedroza2k> Time for me to call it a night all. Good luck.
[23:42] <Aprel> join #ubuntu-es
[23:43] <Aprel> sorry
[23:43] <wylde> akurilin, you're welcome. Hope it helped.
[23:44] <MegaBrutal> Since I'm here anyway, I also have a question. I have 12.10 - can (and should) I upgrade to 13.10 in one step, or I need to upgrade to 13.04 first, and then to 13.10?
[23:44] <axisys> jpedroza2k: lscpi has both intel pro/wireless 5100 agn and broadcom netlink bcm5787m gig
[23:44] <we6jbo> I'm trying to connect to a vpn server using network connections and the connection keeps failing
[23:44] <akurilin> On an unrelated note, I'm having a ton of issues with my Intel HD4600 graphics card and multiple monitors on Precise. I often come back to the machine and the DM went nuts, completely locked up. With a single monitor I can flip to tty1 and back to the DM and have it be fixed, but with multi-monitor I need to stop lightdm, restart it and then maybe it works.
[23:44] <akurilin> Trying to figure out what to do here, what the recommended approach should be.
[23:47] <MegaBrutal> What's strange is /usr/lib/ubuntu-release-upgrader/release-upgrade-motd still offering to upgrade to 13.04 and not 13.10.
[23:48] <wilee-nilee> MegaBrutal, up one at a time unless lt to lt.
[23:48] <coolstar> hi, I'm having an issue with my WiFi connection being quite slow
[23:48] <coolstar> on Windows and on my iPad in the same place I get the full 12 MBPS down on speedtest.net
[23:48] <coolstar> when booted in kUbuntu I only get 4 MBPS though
[23:49] <MegaBrutal> wilee-nilee: Thanks.
[23:50] <rOOb> Hello all. I've got 13.10 installed but I cannot get susped to work. The machine WILL suspend but will NOT resume. The fans come back on, the power button stops blinking..but, the screen never comes back on.
[23:50] <rOOb> !suspend
[23:50] <wilee-nilee> MegaBrutal, No problem, there are ways to do this more efficiently however, a separate home and installed packages list and saved repos and keys, can give you a fresh install faster that is the same setup.
[23:51] <axisys> ok lshw -class network shows both wireless and ethernet network unclaimed..
[23:52] <blue> hello
[23:53] <high_fiver> sup
[23:54] <d353r7f0x> is anyone else having trouble installing nvidia 319.60 drivers on 13.10?
[23:56] <suore> i have problem, when i press "BACKSPACE" i got beep from my PC
[23:57] <jrib> suore: this will train you to make less mistakes
[23:57] <jrib> suore: does it happen in the gui too?  Like with gedit?
[23:57] <LuvLinuxOS> hi all
[23:57] <suore> yes, xchat too, but when windows is clear
[23:58] <suore> it mean textarea is clear
[23:59] <suore> jrib, you know what to do?