| Noskcaj_ | Can someone add to the T-series planning page that debian will not be uploading any 4.11 stuff to unstable (we'd have to sync from experimental) | 00:43 |
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| Noskcaj_ | I can't get wiki access till monday | 00:44 |
| skellat | Noskcaj_: Generally for an LTS we would be synchronizing from Testing instead of Unstable | 00:44 |
| Noskcaj_ | skellat: But you can't upload to testing. If they don't upload to unstable, we can't sync from testing | 00:45 |
| skellat | Noskcaj_: Bingo. | 00:45 |
| skellat | You get to Testing generally after 10 days spent in Unstable | 00:45 |
| skellat | So if 4.11 stuff isn't going to Unstable, it won't migrate to Testing, and won't get caught by autosync | 00:46 |
| skellat | We'd have to think really hard about sync from Experimental | 00:46 |
| skellat | Noskcaj_: What is going to land in Experimental? | 00:48 |
| Noskcaj_ | skellat: We've got all the released stuff packaged and ready in SVN, it's just waiting for corsac to upload the stuff. http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=pkg-xfce-devel%40lists.alioth.debian.org&comaint=yes | 00:49 |
| Noskcaj_ | Everything that the watchfiles show | 00:50 |
| Noskcaj_ | At least xubuntu will want to get settings 4.11.1 over 4.11 | 00:50 |
| skellat | I think adding it to the wiki can in fact wait until Monday | 00:52 |
| skellat | But if you want I'll go ahead and put a note down on your behalf | 00:52 |
| Noskcaj_ | skellat: If you could. I'm not even sure i can access that part of the wiki | 00:53 |
| skellat | Noskcaj_: If you can access one part, you can access all of it. No superpowers involved. | 00:53 |
| skellat | Actually, this is something I'm already assigned in the roadmap! | 00:54 |
| skellat | [skellat] Anything else that can be cherry-picked from Testing? | 00:54 |
| Unit193 | Speaking of which, did you think I was talking about Xubuntu and the installer, skellat? | 00:55 |
| Unit193 | See comments from earlier? | 00:55 |
| skellat | I did. I saw the comments. Will fix the wiki page. Gimme a sec. | 00:55 |
| Noskcaj_ | We'll have to take parole from unstable since a kfreebsd issue is stoping it from migrating | 00:55 |
| skellat | Link to PTS please? | 00:57 |
| Unit193 | I mean, it is a little related, but not fully unless we're doing an openbox meta/packageset too. :D | 00:57 |
| Noskcaj_ | http://packages.qa.debian.org/parole | 00:57 |
| skellat | I added this to the wiki roadmap: (noskcaj) Certain 4.11 components are going to land in Experimental instead of Unstable which will block them making it into Testing for autosync | 00:59 |
| Noskcaj_ | Thanks | 00:59 |
| Noskcaj_ | Assuming corsac doesn't get to it, i'll prepare the latest parole on monday | 01:00 |
| micahg | brainwash: sorry, been busy, will finish this weekend | 03:01 |
| olbi | where are translating files for isos installer? | 08:15 |
| slickymaster | morning all | 08:50 |
| pmjdebruijn | hi guys | 08:51 |
| pmjdebruijn | thanks for the great work | 08:51 |
| elfy | morning slickymaster pmjdebruijn | 10:25 |
| slickymaster | elfy: o/ good morning | 10:25 |
| slickymaster | elfy: while I have you here let me ask you something | 10:26 |
| elfy | if I can answer I will :) | 10:27 |
| slickymaster | elfy: do you think that https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-docs/+bug/1238718 should be linked in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/topic-t-flavor-xubuntu | 10:27 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1238718 in xubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) "Errors in "Chapter 6. Connecting to Internet and Networks" of the Xubuntu Documentation saucy series" [Undecided,Fix committed] | 10:27 |
| elfy | slickymaster: not sure tbh - but comment from skellat points to a SRU | 10:29 |
| knome | wha | 10:29 |
| slickymaster | knome: morning | 10:29 |
| slickymaster | elfy: yes, we've discussed it | 10:29 |
| knome | good afternoon | 10:29 |
| knome | first, i should set up the T branch | 10:30 |
| knome | then we should push that fix there | 10:30 |
| knome | and then probably... just forget S :) | 10:30 |
| knome | but i'm fine with backporting/SRU | 10:30 |
| knome | but best to get the changes to the new branch first | 10:30 |
| slickymaster | knome: there's also the issue that all the already completed translations should be amended accordingly in the case my merge proposal gets your ok | 10:32 |
| knome | yep. | 10:33 |
| slickymaster | knome: even though that besides mine there's only the russian translation | 10:33 |
| olbi | why mughsot isn't defailt installed? :( | 10:36 |
| knome | slickymaster, can you retarget the MP to lp:xubuntu-docs (is ../saucy now, since that's what it was targetted at) | 10:36 |
| knome | olbi, it isn't packaged yet | 10:37 |
| olbi | it is in PPA :) | 10:37 |
| olbi | I installed it today :) | 10:37 |
| knome | yes, and we aren't seeding things that are in PPA's | 10:37 |
| olbi | but there wasn't my translations :P | 10:38 |
| knome | what i meant it is that it is not packaged *and* in the repositories | 10:38 |
| olbi | oh, ok | 10:38 |
| knome | it's planned for T | 10:38 |
| slickymaster | knome: sorry for the delay (I'm at work) but in order to retarget it, how do I go about that? Do I have to bzr push again? | 10:45 |
| slickymaster | knome: or is it made through the LP site? | 10:45 |
| knome | LP | 10:45 |
| slickymaster | knome: editing the "Merge into:" option? | 10:46 |
| knome | yep | 10:46 |
| knome | just lose the /saucy part | 10:46 |
| slickymaster | knome: maybe I'm blind but I'm not seeing how to it | 10:48 |
| knome | heh | 10:49 |
| knome | it's possible you first have to delete the request and then file another one | 10:49 |
| slickymaster | knome: I would guess so, because I'm not finding any place to edit it | 10:49 |
| knome | that's possible. i can't do it because it's your branch, and i don't exactly know how to do it. a new MP would at least work | 10:50 |
| slickymaster | knome: I'll propose a new merge at lunch. and the previous one will it just stay hanging there? | 10:55 |
| slickymaster | knome: I'm probably one of the major blind idiots you'll ever meet. It was in front of my eyes the all time. Here you go https://code.launchpad.net/~slickymaster/xubuntu-docs/xubuntu-docs/+merge/191781 | 11:03 |
| slickymaster | knome: can you please confirm that correctly re-targeted ? | 11:03 |
| slickymaster | that is correctly | 11:04 |
| elfy | slickymaster: looks right to me | 11:04 |
| * slickymaster gotta learn to type | 11:05 | |
| slickymaster | elfy: and the previous one, https://code.launchpad.net/~slickymaster/xubuntu-docs/xubuntu-docs/+merge/190739 | 11:05 |
| slickymaster | elfy: do you close it, make it invalid, somehow? | 11:06 |
| elfy | no idea :) | 11:06 |
| elfy | oic | 11:06 |
| slickymaster | elfy: "oic" ?! | 11:06 |
| elfy | yes I do lol - if that's an old merge/code thing of your's then you can abandon it - or remove the merge request | 11:07 |
| elfy | oic - read it out in letters :) Oh I See | 11:08 |
| slickymaster | elfy: even in portuguese I'm terrible with acronyms | 11:08 |
| elfy | pretty sure there is a way to stop it being a merge request | 11:09 |
| elfy | slickymaster: I'm sure I'd be rubbish at a Portuguese one ;) | 11:09 |
| slickymaster | elfy: there's the delete proposal to merge option | 11:09 |
| elfy | that's the one | 11:10 |
| slickymaster | elfy and knome: deleted the https://code.launchpad.net/~slickymaster/xubuntu-docs/xubuntu-docs/+merge/190739 merge proposal | 11:11 |
| thad | elfy: remember the report about no being able to unlock a system with full disk encryption (basically keyboard input not working)? | 11:13 |
| thad | here's a new report bug 1241505 | 11:13 |
| ubottu | bug 1241505 in linux (Ubuntu) "Wireless keyboard does not work after grub, and until after encrypted root volume is unlocked" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1241505 | 11:13 |
| elfy | that's not nice | 11:14 |
| thad | happened to me too, so it's related to wireless keyboards most likely | 11:14 |
| elfy | and why I'd not have seen it | 11:15 |
| ochosi | brainwash: yes, that's how they "lock" their session (i.e. not at all) | 11:18 |
| elfy | thad: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-bugs/2013-09/msg04276.html | 11:20 |
| thad | elfy: ah nice, let me reorganize the lp reports and add the opensuse report | 11:23 |
| elfy | yay | 11:23 |
| elfy | I actually found something for a bug :p | 11:24 |
| thad | it looks like every USB keyboard should be affected | 11:25 |
| elfy | one person saw that I thought - I can't confirm that here - though I did check in a vm | 11:26 |
| pmjdebruijn | most wireless keyboards look like plain USB HID to the host, don't they? | 11:26 |
| slickymaster | pmjdebruijn: yes, you're right | 11:27 |
| thad | nice to know | 11:33 |
| thad | bug 1241505 | 11:33 |
| ubottu | bug 1241505 in linux (Ubuntu) "USB keyboard does not work after grub, and until after encrypted root volume is unlocked" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1241505 | 11:33 |
| elfy | thad: not really sure how to confirm that bug without installing it and then not being able to actually ever login to :p | 11:46 |
| elfy | thad: here's an odd one - not seen anything go through - just updated a vm install - restart button worked | 11:49 |
| thad | the restart button worked? in which context? | 11:51 |
| elfy | in the context of update manager | 11:51 |
| thad | but the fixed package hasn't been uploaded yet.. | 11:52 |
| elfy | I know | 11:52 |
| thad | clean xubuntu installation without consolekit, right? | 11:53 |
| elfy | no - was an oldish one that it didn't work on | 11:53 |
| thad | maybe0 you've pulled ck in after adding some software | 11:54 |
| elfy | possibly | 11:54 |
| thad | just checked, no new activity on the lp report | 11:56 |
| elfy | I know :) | 11:57 |
| thad | well, it's your bug report, so you'll get informed anyway :D | 11:57 |
| elfy | :p | 11:57 |
| thad | "LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent." | 12:14 |
| thad | when launching steam :) | 12:14 |
| elfy | oh - well there is absolutely no chance whatsover of me seeing that one then :p | 12:18 |
| thad | it's just a funny terminal output line | 12:20 |
| thad | but speaking of steam, does anyone here run benchmarks and measure performance changes? | 12:22 |
| thad | the phoronix guys usually only test outdated, non-relevant games like openarena | 12:24 |
| elfy | thad: it is a funny output :) | 12:40 |
| ali1234 | thad: that's the appindicator bug | 12:48 |
| ali1234 | bug 1230888 | 12:49 |
| ubottu | bug 1230888 in murano "Murano Installation: script can not install conductor on Ubuntu 12.10" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1230888 | 12:49 |
| ali1234 | oops, bug 1203888 | 12:49 |
| ubottu | bug 1203888 in libappindicator (Ubuntu) "appindicator ignores menu entries after having sent the menu to the indicator" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1203888 | 12:49 |
| ali1234 | actually perhaps not | 12:49 |
| ali1234 | also, yeah i wish phoronix would test games people actually play on cards people actually use to play them | 12:50 |
| ali1234 | ie TF2 on mid-to-high end nvidia, with the proprietary driver | 12:51 |
| thad | right, but I guess they know about this demand | 12:52 |
| thad | oh dammit, could lp stop syncing all the external comments... | 12:53 |
| olbi | two monitors works great but after I plug in second, there should appear window but didn't :/ | 13:45 |
| dastan | hi | 13:50 |
| dastan | i want to do create ubuntu mini shop in my country | 13:51 |
| dastan | can any one help | 13:51 |
| ochosi | olbi: that depends on the driver/display | 13:54 |
| ochosi | olbi: if you use the VGA connector, it's very likely, there's no signal by the connector/driver | 13:54 |
| olbi | I have been using HDMI and VGA with Intel driver | 13:55 |
| ochosi | olbi: with DVI/HMDI/DisplayPort it's much more likely | 13:55 |
| olbi | HDMI was connected and than plugged VGA | 13:55 |
| ochosi | try the other way round | 13:55 |
| ochosi | and then you should get a notification | 13:55 |
| ochosi | vga hardly ever works in that respect | 13:56 |
| ochosi | but nothing we can do about that unfortunately... | 13:56 |
| olbi | ok, I try with others connector but Edge-HD4 only have HDMI and VGA :D | 13:56 |
| dastan | why vga is require | 13:56 |
| dastan | are screen brightness is issue | 13:56 |
| olbi | and my second display is only VGA :P | 13:56 |
| ochosi | olbi: well you can make vga your primary display and connect hdmi after startup to test ;) | 13:57 |
| olbi | hmm, :) | 13:57 |
| dastan | are you want to configure scree gamma | 13:57 |
| dastan | means contrast | 13:57 |
| dastan | i can help | 13:58 |
| olbi | VGA was primary and plugin HDMI, nothing happens :P | 13:58 |
| ochosi | olbi: you mean you restarted your session? anyhoo, you can check whether there's a signal by monitoring ~/.cache/upstart/startxfce4 | 13:59 |
| ochosi | olbi: e.g. with "tail -f" | 13:59 |
| dastan | sorry | 14:01 |
| olbi | no, didnt restared session :) | 14:01 |
| olbi | now i try with this | 14:02 |
| dastan | how to traverse channel | 14:02 |
| dastan | i got shit no one reply my answer | 14:03 |
| brainwash | ochosi: so lxlock simply switches to the greeter... and nobody complains about the unlocked session? | 14:10 |
| ochosi | brainwash: well webupd8 mentioned it in its brief review, i'm not really up-to-date with lubuntu users though, so i don't know what they think about it :] | 16:12 |
| GridCube | brainwash, everybody is more concerned about the sound indicator | 16:19 |
| elfy | GridCube: +1 | 16:24 |
| ochosi | GridCube: yeah, but the sound-indicator is a Xubuntu problem, while the unlocked session is a Lubuntu problem | 16:34 |
| GridCube | oh, i see | 16:35 |
| olbi | why we cant use temporary this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1208204/comments/27 | 17:24 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1208204 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin" [High,Triaged] | 17:24 |
| ochosi | olbi: because that change would break unity's indicators, afaik | 17:30 |
| olbi | :/ | 17:30 |
| ali1234 | that probably wouldn't break unity but it would break on 32 bit, or arm, or a load of other cases | 17:33 |
| ali1234 | xfburn doesn't support blu-ray :/ | 17:43 |
| olbi | try Nero :) | 17:46 |
| olbi | it was only working burning software with blu-ray :D | 17:47 |
| ochosi | ali1234: xfburn isn't exactly in active development... | 17:48 |
| brainwash | ochosi: you should have given them some advice! :) like forcing them to use light-locker :P | 17:53 |
| brainwash | ochosi: wait a minute.. I will have to verify it, but I'm pretty sure, that the "login" button wasn't labeled "unlock" after "locking" the session | 18:21 |
| brainwash | (lightdm gtk greeter) | 18:21 |
| Unit193 | brainwash: Not sure what jmarsden is up to now, or lezak, but gilir comes around every couple weeks. | 18:33 |
| brainwash | Unit193: maybe I'll file a bug report | 18:34 |
| brainwash | this issue is even worse than the sound indicator one, but it does not generate any uproar | 18:35 |
| Unit193 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1205384 was the one linked to on the ML (why I'm still on it I don't know.) | 18:35 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1205384 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Lock can be circumvented by switching to console" [Undecided,New] | 18:35 |
| brainwash | the lock does not even get circumvented, because nothing is actually locked :) | 18:37 |
| Unit193 | Yep. | 18:39 |
| brainwash | I'll keep an eye on this report | 18:39 |
| brainwash | ochosi: xfpm waits 2 seconds before locking the screen and xscreensaver adds another second | 23:14 |
| brainwash | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/saucy/xfce4-power-manager/saucy/view/head:/src/xfpm-power.c#L346 | 23:14 |
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