[00:12] Hello everyone, how do you enable hibernation on Xubuntu 13.10? [00:16] Bosi: it's disabled for a reason [00:16] did you already test "sudo pm-hibernate"? [00:19] brainwash, as in 13.04, still it works perfectly [00:19] brainwash, but I don't know how to enable it in 13.10 [00:21] so the method for 13.04 does not work anymore? [00:22] take a look at /var/lib/polkit-1/localauthority/10-vendor.d/com.ubuntu.desktop.pkla [00:28] brainwash, I did what this page says: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2140494 [00:28] brainwash, it doesn't work [00:28] Bosi: you will have to add a rule for logind too [00:29] Action=org.freedesktop.login1.hibernate [00:29] <`Fibz`> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2177422 [00:31] brainwash, you're speeking greek to me... can you explain me how to do that? [00:31] <`Fibz`> it sounds broken to me [00:32] copy the existing rule and change the action line [00:33] copy the 4 lines and paste them below the first rule, now change the action line [00:38] brainwash, don't know if I understood what you asked... but it didn't work. [00:38] http://lpaste.net/94398 [00:39] Bosi: so your file looks like this? [00:39] what does "dbus-send --print-reply --system --dest=org.freedesktop.login1 /org/freedesktop/login1 org.freedesktop.login1.Manager.CanHibernate" return? [00:41] method return sender=:1.3 -> dest=:1.41 reply_serial=2 [00:41] string "yes" [00:44] brainwash, hey man, it is activated now. [00:44] Bosi: great :) [00:44] brainwash, thank you very much!! [00:45] you're welcome [01:09] can someone tell me where in the home folder the colors are for the top bar? [01:10] the theme for the window manager? [01:10] you know how xubuntu made it so you can adjust your themes colors for panels? where would I find those colors? [01:11] Oh, in the settings manager. [01:11] I'm in the middle of taking a screen shot and figuring out the colors from gimp so I can grep for them [01:11] Window Manager changes the window frames, Appearance changes the colors and fonts and such. [01:12] I don't have the settings manager any more... I installed ubuntu instead and left my home folder so now my appearence in ubuntu is weird lol [01:12] Oh.... [01:12] I dunno if the theme location is the same in ubuntu. [01:12] yeah, its in your home folder somewhere. .xauthority, or one of those folders... just not sure which one [01:12] s/folders/files [01:13] I don't use a themes folder in my home directory. [01:13] I use /usr/share/themes [01:13] how long have you been using linux? [01:14] Long enough to know how to install and remove themes manually from xfce. [01:14] I do about 90% of what I do from cli. I don't have xfce anymore... I should be able to fix this in a min [01:16] Well, good for you. If you don't have xfce anymore, why ask non-xfce questions in xubuntu? [01:16] Wouldn't #ubuntu be more helpful? [01:16] MGMT: Not sure how that application works, but check ~/.themes/, no? [01:17] might even be in ~/.local/share/themes [01:19] I don't have either of those directories.... I might just reinstall xubuntu for the heck of it to figure out where this is [01:19] I wish I knew what the line that sets those colors starts with [01:20] In xubuntu, it's /usr/share/themes [01:20] The themes usually dictate the colors [01:20] if it was /usr/share/themes the colors would be whatever ubuntus defaults are, I blasted away everythign except /home [01:20] why it that steam games run super great on xubuntu and super bad on the others ubuntu variants? [01:21] blaster_ xubuntu uses a different window manager than ubuntu and is not as resource hungry [01:21] oh [01:22] i have a problem with minecraft too, fullscreen does not work but in xubuntu is works! [01:22] nvm Poisoned_Dragon I found it. the config stuff is in ~/.gtkrc-2.0 [01:23] Hmm... Themes that I've used have overridden the default colors. [01:23] Oh well. [01:23] im going to stick to this distro :D [01:24] lets see what happens when I comment it out... [01:24] do the ati drivers work? the propietaty ones? [01:25] MGMT: That'd have been my next guess, editing the GTKrc files. .config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini too [01:25] blaster_: Settings Manager > Additional Drivers. [01:25] They should work, but that's where to test them. [01:25] but i mean the ones from the official site [01:26] Unit193: I took a screenshot and used color picker to see what color it was hoping to grep for the right file... that's the only way I know I have the right file... Hopefully this is the only place these colors are lol [01:26] brb... hopefully I didn't break a bunch of stuff [01:27] ok installation complete brb [01:27] commenting it out didn't seem to get it [01:29] It sounds like you're making it harder than it has to be. [01:29] You're using unity, right? [01:29] Unit193: I think its in ~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css [01:29] Poisoned_Dragon: yeah [01:30] lemme google-fu before I throw my hat in the ring [01:30] I tried changing themes and it didn't change the colors. [01:31] brb [01:32] Poisoned_Dragon: I found it [01:32] it was in ~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css [01:32] Ah, I see [01:33] Can unity run on xubuntu? [01:33] So, you can see the color codes? [01:33] Yowl: yeah [01:33] Sure. [01:33] Poisoned_Dragon: yeah, I just changed it from red to white, but now I have no clue what the color is supposed to be for the default ubuntu theme... I might see if I can get someone to give me the colors from those lines in #ubuntu [01:33] easy to download unity and apply it to xubuntu? [01:34] There should be a meta package for unity [01:34] So easy to install and switch over, and easy to clean out after? [01:35] ubuntu-desktop AFAIK [01:36] Yowl: xubuntu *is* ubuntu, using xfce instead of unity.. xubuntu and ubuntu, and the other variants have access to the same repos, so you just install whatever you would like.. you will choose unity at boot.. but, the ubuntu-desktop metapackage will have more than just unity [01:37] holstein: and that package will have something else I might want that xubuntu wouldn't? [01:37] have [01:40] Poisoned_Dragon: Is it easy to install, switch DE and then clean it out after? [01:44] anyone here? [01:45] I believe so. But I don't experiment that way. [01:45] I just use Live isos with different DEs to check it out [01:46] Besides, I've grown quite fond of xfce. So, I don't experiment much, anymore. [01:55] Poisoned_Dragon: What have you tried of the other DE's, and what did you like about xfce compared to the rest? [01:56] Cinnamon, KDE, Mate, LXDE, JWM, PekWM.... and others. [01:56] xfce just has a nice balance of speed and eyecandy. Mate is good to but, a tad heavier. [01:57] mate runs on ubuntu now, right? [01:58] Um, I think it might be in the repos. Don't quote me on that. [01:58] In fact, it's not in the repos at all. [01:58] I believe there is a ppa for Mate. [01:59] Poisoned_Dragon: How much heavier? Maybe with a good system I won't even notice? [01:59] Oh... not even a ppa [01:59] http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download [02:00] <`Fibz`> use at your own risk [02:00] Pretty much. But, I've heard people have some success at installing it. Just be patient and vigilant. [02:01] My own risk? You mean maleware? [02:01] Or that it might screw up my system? [02:02] pfft... Malware, he says. [02:03] Just be mindful of your experience level. [02:04] Poisoned_Dragon: Well if something went wrong, couldn't I just used the other DE? And please answer my question about that heaviness you spoke of [02:05] I just find Mate a tad slower on the draw, in some places. But, it's still a great Gnome2 fork. [02:05] If xfce wasn't an option, I would use Mate [02:05] Yes, you could just use the other DE and purge the bad one. [02:07] Poisoned_Dragon: How fast is your PC? [02:07] That's irrelevant, Yowl. [02:08] What matters is how the GPU is implemented. As in, Integrated vs. Add-on. [02:09] An add-on GPU will always work better than an integrated one. I'm use to using PCs with integrated chips. [02:09] Poisoned_Dragon: You mean it's demanding on your graphics card, and not much on CPU or RAM? [02:09] So, I just stick with xfce [02:09] An integrated GPU shares system ram. So, it can create bottleneck performance issues. [02:10] Even with lots of ram and a fast cpu, you can still see the performance hit. [02:11] Poisoned_Dragon: If mate ran at the same speed for you as xfce, which would you choose? [02:11] xfce. [02:11] Why? [02:11] The panels are super easy to modify to my taste. [02:18] finishe installing xubuntu 13.10 and the volume icon does not work! does it happen to you? [02:23] there's a work around for it. [02:24] blastermaster, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1208204 [02:24] Ubuntu bug 1208204 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin" [High,Triaged] [02:24] blastermaster, read comment 5 [02:24] ok thanks i will now [02:29] that did the trick, but it should be fixed, if i was a newbie i would freakout! [02:30] Did you do a clean install or a dist upgrade? [02:30] I think the clean installs may not have this issue. But, I could be wrong. [02:31] Luckily, my google-fu is pretty decent. [02:31] So, I found the solution this morning, after udpating. [02:31] *updating [02:31] I did a clean install so is a problem [02:31] Ah.... tooo bad. [02:32] Well, at least it's fixed now. :) [02:32] yep [02:35] Poisoned_Dragon: So mate is much harder to modify? Have you used Mint? Does XFCE run on mint? What do you think of mint? BTW I lost connection, so if you already answered, I missed it [02:38] Yowl, It takes a little more work. It's not as bad as Gnome Shell. I use Linux Mint Xfce on my netbook. I like it. === makimac- is now known as makimac|afk [03:13] i have been away from linux for awhile, and am now trying to get back into it, so i just installed xubuntu 13.10 on 2 different laptops, one that i use all the time, the other is connected to my tv, and i am having a few problems, the first one i notices is there not volume controles [03:15] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1208204 Yeah, sadly it's known. [03:15] Ubuntu bug 1208204 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin" [High,Triaged] === makimac- is now known as makimac|afk [03:17] djones_, read comment #5 ^ [03:17] haha, so thus far, theres nothing to do about it? [03:18] If you follow the directions in comment #5, it'll fix it [03:18] I had to do it today. === makimac_ is now known as makimac [03:19] This was posted in #ubuntu as a fix to the indicator issue. http://grumbel.blogspot.com/2011/10/fixing-volume-control-in-xfce4.html [03:20] That's a different issue. [03:20] That post is also ancient. [03:21] ah, correct [03:21] Still, it was informative in it's day. :) [03:22] great, thank you guys, another issue that i am having that may be just my stupid network config, but never had this problem before, i use synergy to control the tv laptop with the mouse and keyboard from the daily driver, and since the install there is some serious lag in things that i am doing \, to the point that its almost unusable, is this just something i just gotta fix on my own [03:22] I can't help on that one. [03:24] haha, it was wishful thinking there, is there a better solution for what im trying to do than synergy? [03:24] I've never even heard of it. [03:24] So, I'm useless [03:26] worth a shot, so this says to kill the indicator-sound-service, and then (re-(?))run the /usr/share/dbus-1/services/indicator-sound.service that it fixes it, my problem is i dont know how to kill it? xkill? [03:27] service-stop /usr/share/dbus-1/services/indicator-sound.service? [03:27] I cheated. [03:27] I just logged off and logged back on. [03:27] and that fixes it? [03:28] Once you change that line, yeah. [03:28] It'll reload the service. [03:29] and then on boot it will work? or does it need to be restarted every time? haha [03:29] It'll be fixed [03:32] here goes nothing [03:51] Who was looking for binding the alt key to a different key? [03:54] Anyone else here tried mint? [03:57] !mint [03:57] Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org [04:25] anyone notice the new ISO not recognizing 13.04 and offering an upgrade option? [04:54] Is zeitgeist installed by default in xubuntu? [05:23] !info zeitgeist [05:23] zeitgeist (source: zeitgeist): event logging framework. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.14-0ubuntu3 (saucy), package size 2 kB, installed size 34 kB [05:29] Yowl: I think not. [05:29] Purge if it is and you don't want it. [06:02] is it safe to upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 right now? [06:12] right now? [06:12] sure [06:27] I did it yesturday. [06:29] Question for ya'll: I used the gtk-theme-config settings to change my panel colour, and now all the panel text is super blurry. Any one else having this problem? [06:51] So I just installed Ubuntu after having issues with Fedora and the I am having the same problem. I can't access certain secure websites. Gmail, facebook. Amazon, etc... Has anyone ever experienced this before? [06:52] What browser are you using? [06:54] some network firewall probably? [06:55] dwreck, can you test with another pc? I would start with checking the network you are connecting to. [06:55] I am using firefox [06:56] I have installed Fedora on two computers and Ubuntu on this one and I am having the same issue [06:56] My windows computers have no problems with the network [06:56] the Ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu [06:57] I have never had that particular issue with firefox, but if I ever have an internet problem it's because of firefox. Try using Chromium or Opera [06:58] Same issue with Chrome [06:58] I was running Linux as a VM originally and it worked with no issues [07:07] hi, what would be a convenient way to force user accounts to automatically logoff/lock after a given time? (not after x period of inactivity) [07:14] This may help: http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/technology/981157/ [07:14] You can make a script and make it run on session startup so that the system logs off after a certain amount of time. [07:15] dwreck, that sounds very strange. I use both Ubuntu Studio and Xubuntu with Firefox, Google Chrome and Chromium and have no problem with Gmail, Facebook or other secure sites. Do you have an extensions or plugins in the browsers that might interfer? [07:15] braden_: thanks a lot [07:21] none. This is a fresh Ubuntu install [07:22] I am having the same exact issue with Fedora [07:27] dwreck: this is Xubuntu support channel - Ubuntu support is in #ubuntu [07:28] brainwash: seems kinda gnome-centric, that [07:30] typing sleep 1s doesn't even seem to do anything [07:31] even though man sleep states that's exactly the command to force sleep in 1 second [07:34] if only xfce4-session-logout allowed a timer [07:42] omfg, under Windows 7 none of available apps can do good bootable USB stick with Xubuntu :/ [07:42] only usb-creator can do this in perfect way [07:43] but it is only available under ubuntu :P [07:43] unetbootin works fine [07:45] http://www.linuxliveusb.com/ is pretty darn nice, olbi. [07:46] after installing with linuxlive there is error with grub :/ [07:46] i check unetbootin [07:47] in linuxliveusb there isn't xubuntu yet :P [07:47] the newest version [07:50] you mean you're able to start the installer, but after installing grub fails? [07:52] yes [07:52] Hello Everyone, I've installed ubuntu 19 times so far. I'get the error attempt to read of write outside of disk hd0 message and then grub rescue. Ther is no HDD-s connected to my PC just the 16GB pendrive. I put boot loadet once on sda once sda1 once auto install and neither worked. before everything went fine even with HDD-s connected. [07:55] olbi: i doubt the problem lies within your live usb creating software [07:55] or does it happen on other machines as well? [07:56] I have that problems with severals machines, works good only when I created sticj with usb-creator :) [07:56] soon I want check Zotac ZBOX :D [07:57] I've installed from a DVD to a USB drive. Not a live system as a real one. [07:57] but if Edge-HD4 fails that means on others will be same :P [07:59] There is no usb live creating software. I burn the official ISO to a DVD. And then I install it to a flash drive as my main HDD. [08:06] where do i configure proxy servers? [08:06] i can't seem to find it in network settings [08:07] is that: http://askubuntu.com/questions/150210/how-do-i-set-systemwide-proxy-servers-in-xubuntu-lubuntu-or-ubuntu-studio the preferred method? [08:08] proxy, so no vpn service/servers? [08:11] Soul-Sing, yes [08:11] i feel like trying out privoxy [08:12] i dont have dvd drive in my computers :P [08:13] i don't use dvd for install linux for about 3 - 4 years :P [09:43] d [09:50] i am trying to do a refresh with a clean cache like i could do in windows, it is control + f5 === xubuntu is now known as Guest91200 [10:02] ur0pl: in firefox? if so ctrl+shift+delete will give you options [10:06] Hi, On 13.10 have a problem when laptop lid closed and reopened, arrow lost, and cannot move pointer. Same with Lubuntu. [10:08] ur0pl: if shift f5 doesn't work, try shift ctrl r [10:22] Hi to all [10:22] anyone can help me [10:22] !ask [10:22] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [10:23] i've upgrade xubuntu 13.04 to 13.10 but, now, the Volume audio and bluetooth applet doesn't work.. when i click on it doesn't open the little down menus with the controls .. pls can anyone help me?! [10:24] bug 1208204 [10:24] bug 1208204 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1208204 [10:24] Ros_XU1310: it's all in the release notes - we write them for a reason ;) [10:25] oh yes.. thanks Elfy, but are workin' for a solution ? Or exist some alternative ? tk a lot [10:26] Ros_XU1310: there is a workround in the bug report [10:32] ok Elfy i'm reading and try to solve-it ! Thanks a lot [10:33] welcome [10:53] i can't find indicator-sound.service [10:56] i don't have that file :( [11:36] Ros_XU1310: not sure why you'd not have the file at all [11:40] Elfy, i'm going to "/usr/share/dbus-1/services" and don't have the file needed ! .. if I try to open like gedit.... it's totally blank .. and with "ls" i dont have it [11:40] :( [11:43] Ros_XU1310: you can always create it if necessary I guess - really not sure why it's missing though [11:44] it wants to look like http://askubuntu.com/questions/360806/volume-indicator-issue-after-xubuntu-13-10-upgrade [11:44] but I'd be wondering where it's got to [11:56] Ehi Elfy i 've created the file and put inside the 'instrucion' find in the url that You give me ... now i try reboot the system and cross my finger .. See You back here later..thanks a lot .. [12:11] Got a problem. Notifications aren't appearing correctly in XFCE on Ubuntu Studio 13.10 (they show up as unformatted white text on a blue line in the upper left instead of the normal XFCE notification scheme). Is this a known bug? [12:22] Here's a screenshot of my aforementioned problem: http://imagebin.org/273991 [12:24] SonikkuAmerica: what theme do you have selected in notification settings? [12:26] Sysi: I tried them all... all I get is a message saying "(#A) This is what notifications will look like" in the same look... where # is in the set of counting numbers [12:27] This # just keeps incrementing... [12:30] Sysi: Even though I also have i3 installed, it didn't matter last night when I switched between the 2 window managers - the XFCE notifications stayed the same in the UStudio DE. It only occurred this morning. [12:32] maybe kill (and run again) notification-daemon [12:33] Sysi: notify-osd right? [12:33] I think notify-osd is different daemon, check « [12:34] »ps aux | grep notif« [12:35] Sysi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6256900/ [12:36] It's a little confusing. [12:36] hum, none of those is the notification daemon [12:38] Should I run [ ps aux | grep notif ] when one of these malnutritious notifications is displaying? [12:39] !msg ubottu !ot [12:39] SonikkuAmerica: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [12:39] I'd try running noti[tabtab] first [12:39] OK [12:40] Sysi: "notify-send" ? [12:42] that's only one appearing if you press tab more than once? [12:42] I hit TAB twice, that was it [12:45] Maybe for some reason I don't have a notification daemon? [12:46] Sysi: I've determined that Studio comes with xfce4-notifyd. I'm purging and reinstalling it and giving it a reboot. [12:50] Sysi: No such luck... [12:50] ns ghost SonikkuAmerica john3167 === SonikkuAmerica_ is now known as SonikkuAmerica [12:51] Sysi: Sounds like a report might be in order against xfce4-notifyd ... [12:52] yeah [13:14] it looks like the notification daemon "dunst" is running, i3 pulled it in [13:15] good call, I've never used i3 so couldn't tell [13:16] oh, Sonikku is gone already === Soul-Sing is now known as Guest19057 [13:36] Is there a way to install unity for xubuntu 13.10 to test performance vs xfce [13:38] m3kk: yes, http://askubuntu.com/questions/111400/can-i-install-unity-aside-with-xfce-and-switch-them-as-i-want [13:38] baizon, thanks [13:42] Hello everyone, Xubuntu got really slow after I upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10. Applications are running slower, boot got also slower, any suggestion on what should I do? or just re-install the OS? [13:43] Bosi: very hard to give you good advice based on this amount of information [13:43] you could try a clean install if you have the time&resources [13:44] but hard to judge whether it's going to help as long as it's not clear what causes your slowness [13:45] Bosi, perhaps restricted graphics driver got disabled after update? check them [13:45] ochosi, well, it is not a RAM problem, even the CPU monitor doesn't reflect how slow it is... I really have no clue. [13:45] Bosi, clean install is my suggestion. you can save your data in a separate /home and install (probably) without losing your data. [13:46] cfhowlett, yeah, I might do that... kind of frustrating though. things were running pretty smooth on 13.04. [13:47] Bosi, clean install is like spring clean. [13:47] cleaning [13:48] Bosi, also, unless your really NEED the latest ubuntu, consider that you're only getting 6 months support. LTS gets 5 years support and a new version every 2 years. just sayin ... [13:48] i wish the lts had sane color schemes for the terminal [13:48] yeah, I made the mistake of starting with the 13.04... [13:49] you can easily change that [13:49] yes, by installing another terminal program [13:49] no [13:49] Bosi, if you stay with 13.10, next LTS arrives in 6 months; 14.04 [13:49] just change the colors miarf :/ [13:49] that's not convenient [13:49] you can do what ever you want to the colors [13:50] say I have a break at work and I pop in the livecd into a random machine that happens to be available [13:50] you can use an image as background, you can make it transparent, you can put any color scheme you wish [13:50] although for that purpose there's no need for the LTS anyway [13:50] i'm mostly annoyed by the design decision of having a gray background with black text as the only preset [13:51] o_O its the only preset? [13:51] it is, isn't it? [13:51] no [13:52] you should have like 10 default presets [13:52] interesting, let's take a look [13:52] i may just remember wrong [13:52] hello [13:52] !hi | guythatneedhelp [13:52] guythatneedhelp: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! [13:52] miarf, just install the fish shell and be happy about the colors [13:53] i have installed new xubu 13.10 and i cant add new account [13:53] guythatneedhelp, how did you tried to do so? [13:53] from graphic level *(user & groups) [13:54] qwertz__: there are dozens of such solutions and I can change the colors, but those are solutions to something that shouldn't exist in the first place :P [13:55] miarf, not really, you are the first person i've ever heard complaining about this [13:55] ok [13:55] (and you have spoken to every xubuntu user :) [13:55] as is a fairly easy and super simple to set up anything to your pleasure [13:56] no, but im here everyday hearing complains and problems [13:56] yeah, i remember i nice editor for that... [13:56] xfce terminal doesn't have color preset other than default, but there are no shortage of add-on shells to color and/or beautify as you will [13:56] btw, i couldn't resist and started a dist-upgrade to 13.10 [13:56] it mostly gets tedious when you pop in the livecd multiple times a day, and it's a minor inconvenience [13:56] qwertz_, enjoy your 6 months ... [13:57] :) [13:57] but still, given that 12.04 has very few other issues for me, this is the one that stands out [13:57] so far: some error message on upgrading tex-common with an emacs process batch processing some elisp file [13:57] cfhowlett, :/ then why i do have a bunch of presets, i know im on 13.04, but why would i have them and you wont? [13:57] GridCube, I'm on 12.04 ... [13:57] aren't we talking about the LTS? [13:57] oh [13:58] right [13:58] GridCube, AND on ubuntustudio so it's possible that the terminal preset were not carried over [13:58] miarf, 13.10 isn't LTS [13:58] cfhowlett: indeed [13:58] well i dont have a 12.04 iso here so i cant test [13:58] i'm not talking about 13.10 [13:58] oh, i just realised that 14.04 will be LTS [13:58] miarf, I just checked my ubuntu studio. no terminal color presets on the xfce terminal [13:59] let's hope for xfce 4.12 then [13:59] yeah i had a vm with 12.04 on it, it's this stuff: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16485163/terminal.JPG [13:59] * cfhowlett ... old neckbeard voice: I remember when the only color we NEEDED for terminals was green! [13:59] that's a pretty nonstandard colour scheme that messes up a bunch of terminal programs visually [14:00] but i repeat, it's a minor inconvenience and a pet peeve [14:02] oh right miarf thats because 12.04 is still on xfce 4.8 [14:03] but the older versions didn't have that [14:03] oh well [14:32] Alright guys, i wanted to try out unity for the sake of comparision and i dont want to install full fledged ubuntu-desktop so i did install just unity, but lightdm does not show Unity as a session. is there any way around this? Install differnt login manager? [14:33] afternnon all [14:37] hi all, just done a distro upgrade from 13.04 t0 13.10 and the volume control from the top panel is missing.. when i Try to add it back in its not is the list of item available. [14:38] updated a recently installed 13.04 to 13.10 today as well, got all kinds of graphical glitches on the desktop [14:38] can anyone one advise what program launcher i can add to the panel to solve this [14:39] DavePearson, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1208204 [14:39] Ubuntu bug 1208204 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin" [High,Triaged] [14:39] see comment 5 [14:40] blame gtk3 [14:40] DavePearson, comment 41 has also another solution [14:41] cheers mate.. wierd thing.. it never did this in beta test for me.. :-) [14:42] DavePearson, it has been an issue for too long but the fix hasnt reach the correct place yet [14:43] we hope that for 14.04 it will be fixed properly [14:58] For a minute I wondered if he was of Pearson Computing, the guy that made the Trinity offshoot of Kubuntu [14:58] Sysi: Clean reinstall of Ubuntu Studio just to make sure my problem wasn't i3 gett.ing in the way [15:00] Pity if i3 screwed up xfce4-notifyd (it isn't even needed in i3) [15:01] simply remove "dunst" instead of reinstallting... [15:01] i3 recommends dunst as notifaction daemon [15:02] so don't install random stuff :) [15:03] brainwash: So it must have switched to dunst as its notifier daemon... is that what you're saying? [15:05] right, sort of, both daemon are running, but only one of them receives the dbus messages [15:06] brainwash: Would I then just dpkg-reconfigure to select the default notifier, or what? [15:07] remove the unneeded one [15:08] brainwash: Ah. [15:15] i want back the blackbirdtheme, is there any way [15:15] hello, all. Quick question that's probably dumb, but I'll ask anyway -- I saw the upgrade for xubuntu 13.10 from 13.04 today, but when I click "upgrade now" the popup talks about ubuntu 13.10, rather than xubuntu. Is that still the upgrade I want to do, or is there some other way to get to the xubuntu upgrade? I /really/ don't want my desktop to get changed to ubuntu/gnome. [15:19] xubuntu500: Check around http://xfce-look.org and see if it's a theme still downloadable. [15:20] thank you, I will try it [15:23] phoo: Did you originally install Xubuntu or Regular Ubuntu? [15:23] xubuntu [15:23] You should not have a problem then =) [15:24] the original popup from update says "there's an upgrade to xubuntu 13.10" but then the "release notes" screen says "Welcome to Ubuntu 13.10 'Saucy Salamander' [15:24] The Ubuntu team is proud to announce Ubuntu 13.10 'Saucy Salamander'." [15:24] Okay, so I should be able to click "upgrade" and it won't mess up the settings I just put in yesterday? I mean, I haven't even gotten this thing fully set up with all of my old tools and environments, yet. :) (So I guess that means I don't have too much to lose...) [15:25] It won't [15:25] cool. thanks! [15:26]