[00:01] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1241870] kde shutdown script is not executed @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1241870 (by Soos Gergely)
[00:35] <apachelogger> I can't even get muon to crash on my laptop :@
[00:53] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1241859] package libqtgui4 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: lectura insuficiente en buff... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1241859 (by Lucas Germán Burgos)
[01:08] <ScottK> ahoneybun: What timezone 3:30 for the meeting?
[01:11] <ScottK> valorie: There's a pending SRU to remove the installation page.
[01:12] <ScottK> valorie: It's the KC that decides members.
[01:13] <ScottK> apachelogger: Usually I test more but $work has been killing me the last several months.  All those Muon updater bugs I filed are not particularly obscure.
[01:16] <apachelogger> kde bug 325245
[01:16] <apachelogger> that's wrong
[01:16] <apachelogger> kde bug 326245
[01:17] <apachelogger> typing at this time of day
[01:17] <apachelogger> so many bugs
[01:17] <apachelogger> waaaah
[01:18] <apachelogger> actually what do I do with that
[01:19] <apachelogger> I could make a fix of which I do not know whether it is correct but would ultimately render muon-installer not entirely useless
[01:19] <apachelogger> or I could wait for someone to tell me what to do which may take until monday
[01:19] <apachelogger> ScottK: halp
[01:20] <apachelogger> and latested comments on bug 833058 seem a bit weird
[02:04] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1241540] kubuntu 13.10 keyboard don't work in de, after login... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1241540 (by marcobra (Marco Braida))
[02:04] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1241870] kde shutdown script is not executed @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1241870 (by Soos Gergely)
[02:25] <ahoneybun> ScottK: EST
[02:25] <ahoneybun> to me
[02:57] <ahoneybun> ScottK: 3:30 and 5:30 PM on the 25?
[03:51] <ScottK> apachelogger: Asks for a password just fine here.
[03:51] <ScottK> apachelogger: JFDI is my advice.
[03:51] <ScottK> ahoneybun: Thanks.
[03:51] <ScottK> I might be able to make that.
[03:58] <ahoneybun> ScottK: no problem
[05:48] <LeeJunFan> What package should I file a bug under for KDE enabling my VGA port during log in and setting my screen wider than my LCD? I have to go into display settings at every log-in and disable vga port.
[05:57] <LeeJunFan> Also, what package should be reported for installer errors? luks completely fails. Is that KDE specific when the desktop installer is used?
[06:12] <valorie> LeeJunFan: good questions, and I wish there were someone around/awake to answer you
[06:13] <valorie> are you willing to ask your questions on the kubuntu-devel list?
[06:16] <LeeJunFan> Yeah. I'll follow up on the boogs tomorrow.
[06:16] <valorie> thanks
[06:17] <valorie> people are sorta tired after this week
[07:41] <lordievader> ahoneybun: It seems there was a bit of a misunderstanding, I told you to get me a test page in mediawiki code (after you've discussed it upstream) and then I'll take a look into how it can be converted. If the export to html isn't an option, since I heard mediawiki is capable of that.
[10:40] <smartboyhw> I think that sabdfl, jono AND mgrasselin and aseigo should just stop be 4-year kids and not bother with arguing.....
[10:48] <markey> what, no love for Open Source Drama? :)
[10:50] <yofel> he's just sad that's he's not part of the Open Source Tea Party :P
[10:50] <markey> I remember a time when I actually enjoyed the drama. KDE vs GNOME, Ruby vs Python, Amarok vs Rhythmbox... I loved arguing about it all, in great detail
[10:50] <markey> today I just find it silly and boring
[10:51] <smartboyhw> markey, agreed
[10:51] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[10:53] <Riddell> smartboyhw: uh oh, what's the crack?
[10:53] <smartboyhw> Riddell, look at aseigo's G+ page
[10:53] <smartboyhw> And you'll understand
[10:59] <Riddell> ooh ooh can I be Sarah Palin?
[10:59] <Riddell> at least then I'll be a maniac who is newsworthy and fun
[11:00] <smartboyhw> Riddell, LOL
[11:22] <hxka> Hello, during the upgrade to saucy relese upgrader suggested to remove appmenu-gtk as "deprecated" and now I don't have appmenu support in gtk apps (duh). Installing that package from raring didn't seem to help. What gives?
[12:14] <apachelogger> hxka: canonical does not support it anymore
[12:31] <hxka> wonderful >_<
[12:39] <Odur> Is there a Raring package for kdeconnect?
[12:41] <Odur> Never mind
[12:43] <hxka> That helped: https://launchpad.net/~joe-yasi/+archive/appmenu
[12:57] <smartboyhw> Blizzz, nice blog post
[13:11] <Blizzz> smartboyhw: ty
[13:21] <ScottK> LeeJunFan: For the installer bug, the package is ubiquity, although I suspect it's probably really a lower level problem since the LUKS stuff does work on at least some systems (I tested it personally).
[13:23] <ScottK> LeeJunFan: For the display issue, it's kde-workspace if it's a KDE issue, but it could (and I think it's more likely) also be an Xorg problem, so I'd recommend filing a bug using "ubuntu-bug display" in Konsole and it'll collect the relevant details.
[13:26] <apachelogger> how does bug 1241985 happen :O
[13:26] <apachelogger> oh it's what shadeslayer_ talked about I guess
[13:28] <apachelogger> oh this is actually too funny
[13:28] <apachelogger>   * Add transitional package for plasma-widget-networkmanagement
[13:28] <apachelogger>     (LP: #1234068)
[13:28] <apachelogger>  -- Rohan Garg <rohangarg@kubuntu.org>   Thu, 10 Oct 2013 16:24:57 +0200
[13:28] <apachelogger> you talk to me about how I broke the package, yet you have not unbroken it most recently :P
[13:29] <apachelogger> ubottu: sru
[13:34] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1242028] samplebuffer qt multisampling doesn't work after upgrade to 13.10 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1242028 (by Damian Obernikowicz)
[13:39] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1240376] Plymouthd constantly using 5% of CPU time @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1240376 (by LeonMaxx)
[13:44] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: what?
[13:46] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: to successfully introduce a transitional package one must make sure the new package name breaks replaces accordingly
[13:46] <apachelogger> which whould have solved/prevented the file conflicting
[13:47] <apachelogger> Riddell: please take a look at your cards in 13.10 ... no clue if you consider them done
[13:48] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: http://pastebin.kde.org/puidbuqhm
[13:49] <shadeslayer_> ack
[13:52] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: FWIW https://wiki.debian.org/Renaming_a_Package I always hold on to that when introducing transitionals
[13:52] <shadeslayer_> okay
[14:03] <apachelogger> ScottK: bug 1241985
[14:03] <apachelogger>   Uploading plasma-nm_0.9.3.0-0ubuntu6_source.changes: done.
[14:03] <apachelogger> Successfully uploaded packages.
[14:03] <apachelogger>   Uploading plasma-nm_0.9.3.0-0ubuntu5.1_source.changes: done.
[14:03] <apachelogger> Successfully uploaded packages.
[14:05] <apachelogger> afiestas: are you going to push https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/113242/
[14:05] <apachelogger> kinda blocks patching 13.10
[14:07] <soee> Hi
[14:21]  * apachelogger should prepare his workstation for upgrade :/
[14:21] <apachelogger> hey soee
[14:21] <soee> Upgrade to 13.10?
[14:27] <apachelogger> yeah
[15:41] <ScottK> apachelogger: Accepted.
[15:42] <apachelogger> thanks
[16:31] <apachelogger> ScottK: how long do you think it will take to get 4.11.3 into the archives proper? 2 weeks or 3?
[16:32] <apachelogger> (after KDE release that is)
[16:36] <apachelogger> http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/kubuntu-reviews/kubuntu-13-10/
[16:55] <ScottK> apachelogger: Depends on how fast it's packaged and well tested on the PPA.
[16:55] <ScottK> We've usually let the bake longer in the PPA, but there's no hard requirement to.
[16:57] <apachelogger> !find libxcb-xkb
[16:58] <apachelogger> ScottK: k
[16:58] <apachelogger> !find libxcb-xkb saucy
[17:13] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1240376] Plymouthd constantly using 5% of CPU time @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1240376 (by LeonMaxx)
[17:13] <apachelogger> can't backage sddm -.-
[17:34] <ahoneybun> damn virtualbox and your addons
[17:37] <debfx> addons?
[17:38] <lordievader> Guest-additions?
[17:44] <ahoneybun> yes
[17:44] <ahoneybun> it says I'm missing headers
[19:29] <yofel> apachelogger: wrt bug 1240376 - the kdm.upstart that's used by the backports is a copy of the one from the official precise package
[19:29] <yofel> the newer ones caused kdm to fail in some circumstances
[19:30] <yofel> *one
[19:38] <apachelogger> yofel: that needs addressing then or the script needs changing, as without quit an unpatched kdm will not terminate plymouth
[19:38] <yofel> well, it runs:
[19:38] <yofel> plymouth quit || :
[19:41] <apachelogger> no it doesn't
[19:41] <apachelogger> that quit is inside a runlevel 1 check
[19:41] <apachelogger> so that doesn't do nothing for actual systems
[19:41] <yofel> oh, true -.-
[20:22]  * apachelogger falls off chair
[20:23] <yofel> ^^
[20:28] <apachelogger> hm
[20:28] <apachelogger> yofel: do you still have a raring system around?
[20:28] <apachelogger> anyone got a raring install?
[20:31] <yofel> I can offer a server and a VM, but no GUI on hardware
[20:32] <apachelogger> BUG BUG BUG BUG BUG BUG
[20:32] <apachelogger> m_checkerProcess->setProgram(QStringList() << "/usr/bin/python" << checkerFile);
[20:32] <apachelogger> releasechecker needs python3
[20:33]  * apachelogger throws a keyboard at muon
[20:33] <yofel> wasn't that fixed o.O?
[20:33] <yofel> or was that somewhere else..
[20:36] <genii> apachelogger: I could reboot into my 13.04 if you like... 
[20:37] <apachelogger> not necessary already found the bug
[20:37] <apachelogger> in fact, already fixed :P
[20:37] <apachelogger> http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=muon.git&a=commit&h=e09a0d7fcf77b38da9d951492a2205dfcbfad472
[20:37]  * apachelogger preps sru
[20:37] <genii> K
[20:39] <genii> My habit is to keep one of the current LTS, one of the last stable interim releases, and then whatever's currently +1
[20:43] <csn> I heard shadeslayer was working in a WiFi issue. Any fix for it? My wifi doesn't work - it seems the DHCP connection times out. http://askubuntu.com/questions/361495/kubuntu-13-10-wifi-doesnt-work-dhcp-timeout 
[20:48] <apachelogger> ScottK: bug 1242163
[20:48] <apachelogger>   Uploading muon_2.0.1-0ubuntu0.2_source.changes: done.
[20:48] <apachelogger> Successfully uploaded packages.
[21:48] <apachelogger> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6266608/ thoughts?
[23:01] <yofel> apachelogger: maybe add 'kdevelop | qtcreator' to recommends, or suggests
[23:02] <apachelogger> suggests at best
[23:03] <apachelogger> that is highly subjective
[23:03] <yofel> yeah