[00:02] <d353r7f0x> is anyone else having trouble installing nvidia 319.60 drivers on 13.10?
[00:06] <d353r7f0x> any one know how to fix "bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.11.1.0-12-generic" installing nvidia drivers 319.60?
[01:11] <arthurfiggis> hello :) i just recently upgraded to 13.10, in 13.04 i was printing things to the brother mfc-j435w inkjet i have without issue...but what i had to do to get it working was install ia32-libs first (and all the libraries it pulled in), or printing would fail silently...13.10 doesn't seem to have an ia32-libs package to install at all, does anyone know how I might find out what libraries the...
[01:11] <arthurfiggis> ...drivers need?
[01:12] <ablyss> arthurfiggis, maybe try TurboPrint
[01:13] <ablyss> it solved all my printing issues
[01:17] <arthurfiggis> hmm...i've not heard of that before but i'll have to give it a try, thanks :)
[01:19] <ablyss> yeah, i can't say enough about it.  I really think it's one of my top 3 most have linux programs.
[01:19] <ablyss> most/must
[01:20] <ablyss> printing speeds increased by 10000000x
[02:13] <scorpion19> hi, how is behaving 13.10 so far?
[02:14] <scorpion19> im new on this kubuntu OS since ubuntu with unity is a bit....i dont know but i dont like it....but KDE its good so far
[02:15] <scorpion19> a friend told me that a new version is out so  i would like to try it
[02:15] <scorpion19> XD
[03:53] <Addle> Upgrade from mint to kubuntu went fine, except I had to make it boot the DVD in legacy mode, My partitions are legacy, and it locked up on a black screen until I booted the DVD without EFI. Might be good if that was mentioned in install notes or something. Anyways, yay, on Kubuntu! :)
[03:54] <Addle> Congratulations on the new release!
[04:51] <LeeJunFan> I should have been running 13.10 before release so I could submit bugs. Damn! What a nightmare this is turning out to be. Installer doesn't do luks, /home btrfs won't mount, new network manager means all my 50+ wifi configs are worthless, X screen is wider than my display :(
[04:53] <valorie> LeeJunFan: bug reports are still wanted, and needed
[04:53] <valorie> of course the more pre-release testing the better, but now is a great time to report bugs
[04:53] <LeeJunFan> Yeah. I'll get to them. I just wish I had earlier.
[04:54] <valorie> if they are fixed, they might even be backported
[04:54] <valorie> also, next release is an LTS, so polish, polish, polish is what's needed
[05:10] <gits1225> Is this update safe? http://i.imgur.com/g2Y1L8q.png
[05:16] <JMichaelX> gits1225: what update is that?
[05:17] <gits1225> JMichaelX, the latest?
[05:17] <JMichaelX> gits1225: the upgrade to saucy?
[05:18] <gits1225> No. 12.04 LTS
[05:18] <JMichaelX> ahh
[05:23] <gits1225> So ... is it a safe update?
[05:24] <gits1225> Looks like it'll end my 1 1/2 years of LTS run
[05:34] <valorie> gits1225: I had the same situation in 12.04 I think it was
[05:34] <valorie> just had to re-add kubuntu-desktop
[05:35] <valorie> still, sorta scary, and it shouldn't happen
[08:35] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:43] <captain_haddock> Where has the "unify outputs" option gone in the display configuration screen in Saucy?
[09:20] <MarkusS> kubuntu did an update to 13.10 - and the updater is frozen at 72% - current step is post install for tex-common (which failed and did open the browser to report a bug)..... the updater hangs for some minutes now - shall I restart or shall I create a backup of my data now?
[09:22] <lordievader> MarkusS: A backup is allways a good idea, preferably before the upgrade.
[09:22] <MarkusS> ;)
[09:22] <MarkusS> too late now - I do it anyway as the updater is still frozen
[10:04] <captain_haddock> Where has the "unify outputs" option gone in the display configuration screen in Saucy?
[10:51] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[10:54] <gits1225> So ... is this update safe? http://i.imgur.com/g2Y1L8q.png
[11:00] <przemek> hello gentelmans , do you know any good Linux programs to test HDD drivers - I'm using smartctl and hdparm to check errors and correct speed , do you know other programs?
[11:00] <BluesKaj> gits1225., as long as kubuntu-desktop gets reinstalled after the other upgrades are finished
[11:04] <gits1225> BluesKaj: This is an update for 12.04 LTS. This is not an upgrade.
[11:11] <BluesKaj> gits1225. updates don't install anything .but upgrades make changes to existing packages which are called upgrades
[11:33] <Joe______> Good Afternoon
[11:34] <BluesKaj> hey Joe______
[11:35] <Joe______> Hello,
[11:35] <Guest2471> hello
[11:36] <brunot> I upgraded yesterday to kubuntu 13.10 from 13.04, and now firefox and thunderbird won't start
[11:36] <brunot> I get the following error : GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed
[11:37] <brunot> no window appears, and nothing more happens
[11:38] <brunot> hello
[11:40] <BluesKaj> brunot. have you run an update and upgrade since the new install ?
[11:44] <hxka> Hello, during the upgrade to saucy relese upgrader suggested to remove appmenu-gtk as "deprecated" and now I don't have appmenu support in gtk apps (duh). Installing that package from raring didn't seem to help. What gives?
[11:47] <brunot> <BluesKaj yes I did. I also tried a fresh install of 13.10 on another drive, I get the same message with firefox only, but in that case firefox runs
[11:50] <sylvan-caecili> hello, I'm trying to get bumblebee up and running on my new Ascer Aspire V5-573G with fresh installed kubuntu 13.10, it has a nvidia GeForce GT750M. I installed bumblebee and nvidia-319 through apt-get. after a restart I tried optirun xeyes and got the following result: http://pastebin.com/ewv9tN2K . my uname -a Linux caecili 3.11.0-12-generic #19-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 9 16:20:46 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[11:55] <sylvan-caecili> anyone an idea?
[12:01] <BluesKaj> sylvan-caecili. http://askubuntu.com/questions/288581/how-to-install-nvidia-319-12-driver-on-an-optimus-system
[12:07] <sylvan-caecili> i've checked 2 out of 3 dependencies, Xorg > 1.13 (xserver-xorg-core 2:1.14.3-3ubuntu2 ) and xrandr >= 1.4.0 (xrandr program version 1.4.0). how do I check this kernel dependency CONFIG_DRM enabled?
[12:18] <sylvan-caecili> BluesKaj. have you got any other ideas?
[12:31] <muh2000> what does kcmshell4 and why is it needed by adobe flash?
[12:31] <BluesKaj> sylvan-caecili. is the direct rendering (CONFIG_DRM) dependency missing or do you just have a concern about it ?
[12:33] <sylvan-caecili> BluesKaj. was concerned about it, because it was mentioned in your link. got the tip with runnung cat /boot/config-3.11.0-12-generic | grep CONFIG_DRM= and it reported CONFIG_DRM=m so i think it should be okay
[12:39] <BluesKaj> sylvan-caecili. I think it's part of the mesalibs/opengl package and required for some desktop effects etc
[12:47] <sylvan-caecili> BluesKaj. do you know anything about the error, that is coming when i start a program with optirun? /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libglamoregl.so: undefined symbol: _glapi_tls_Context
[12:48] <sylvan-caecili> i can't find anything usefull
[12:52] <BluesKaj> sylvan-caecili. optirun has been be replaced by primus according to the description in muon , it's meant to run alongside Bumblebee
[12:55] <BluesKaj> correction: not replaced by , but dropin replacement ... probly to accommodate newer hardware
[13:02] <sylvan-caecili> can run primusrun xeyes, but not primusrun glxinfo
[13:05] <BluesKaj> sylvan-caecili. install mesa-utils for glxinfo
[13:34] <hdnet> olá tem alguem br ai para me ajudar em um probleminha?
[14:09] <BluesKaj> !pt | hdnet
[14:10] <Fruit> ubottu is a girl? cute :)
[14:10] <__dan__> Hi guys, congratulations on 13.10 :) I'm considering doing an upgrade, but I see an upgrade bug to do with network management listed in the release notes ... Is this a show stopper or easy to work around? Cheers :)
[14:10] <Fruit> is it a known bug that kubuntu can't be installed by dd'ing it to an USB stick? normal ubuntu works this way
[14:11] <__dan__> Fruit: I just always use unetbootin
[14:12] <Fruit> unetbootin creates unnecessary wear on my usb flash and is slower too
[14:12] <Fruit> oh nm ubuntu 13.10 has the same problem
[14:13] <Fruit> it seems /dev/sr0 is hardcoded somewhere
[14:13] <__dan__> do it once and save the dd image :)
[14:13] <Fruit> tough luck running it from your second cd/dvd drive then
[14:14] <Fruit> annoying, this used to work just fine in 12.04
[14:14] <__dan__> booting linux from cd / usb has always been a bit of a hack though in my experience, probably more to do with the multitude of dodgy BIOS etc out there
[14:15] <__dan__> no disrespect to H. Peter Anvin ;)
[14:16] <Fruit> yeah I maintain a bootable cd/usb image at work for our custom debian installer. I'm painfully aware of the hacks :)
[14:16] <__dan__> is it pretty quiet in here at the moment? wanted an answer to my question above but in no rush :)
[14:17] <__dan__> isn't debian wheezy one of those you can just dd the ISO to USB?
[14:17] <__dan__> tbh I have never tried that with any distro except freebsd
[14:18] <Fruit> could be. it's a simple matter of running isohybrid on the iso image
[14:18] <Fruit> and kubuntu's image boots just fine, the kernel is loaded.
[14:18] <Fruit> it's just that the initrd subsequently keeps trying to mount /dev/sr0 to do the rest
[14:19] <Fruit> instead of just finding the filesystem by label as it used to
[14:20] <hdnet> obrigado ubottu
[14:21] <Fruit> easily reproducible with ‘kvm -m 1024 kubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso’
[14:40] <netQt> Hello all. I have a problem, and don't know how to solve, please heeelp.
[14:40] <lordievader> !ask | netQt
[14:40] <netQt> My kubuntu was recognizing 2 monitors in my laptop, and I turned off vga1
[14:41] <netQt> so now I get black screen
[14:41] <netQt> how I turn it on again?
[14:41] <netQt> I can login with alt+ ctrl + f1
[14:42] <__dan__> that's odd because on my laptop anyway, the internal screen is LVDS1
[14:44] <lordievader> netQt: Do you get a black screen on both monitors?
[14:44] <__dan__> not sure how to fix that one though sorry, you might have to wait for someone smarter, I'm only here to get some info on the apparent network management bug during upgrade from 13.04 -> 13.10
[14:44] <netQt> the thing is I have one monitor, and it's black, is it possible to move screen to the next part?
[14:45] <netQt> I could login in guest account and correct monitors, but how to keep this correct settings form my user?
[14:45] <lordievader> netQt: But you are logged in? You could try to turn it on from a tty. vga1 is the identifier of your screen?
[14:46] <netQt> yes, how can I do that?
[14:47] <lordievader> netQt: Log into the gui. Then change to a tty, login there and run "export DISPLAY=:0&&xrandr" if it works you get a listing of connected displays, does "vga1"
[14:47] <lordievader> Does vga1 have a list of resolutions underneath?
[14:50] <netQt> lordievader: should I run that script when login with ctrl + alt + f1?
[14:50] <lordievader> netQt: Yes you should run those commands from a tty.
[14:52] <Guest6740> hi, i just installed kubuntu and I can't connect to the internet it says "ip configuration was unavailable"
[14:52] <netQt> lordievader: sorry, but is there a way to correct it from guest account? because I can login there. In guest account everything is ok
[14:53] <Guest6740> is there an offline fix for this? People are suggesting to tether your phone and do an upgrade over the then eth0 channel, but I don't have a phone to tether
[14:53] <lordievader> netQt: What does the command return?
[14:54] <netQt> lordievader: I have to restart computer to login into my account to try
[14:56] <Guest6740> i have this error message in dmesg: type=1400 audit: apparmor="DENIED" operation="connect" parent=1712 profile="/usr/lib/NetworkManager/nm-dhcp-client.action" name="/run/dbus/system-bus-socket" pid=1742 comm="nm-dhcp-client." requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=0 ouid=0
[14:57] <Guest6740> which i guess is related.. the card seems to work, i can see it connecting in the router and the router, accepting the authentication and sending out an ack to it
[14:57] <lordievader> netQt: Why? Are you using a different os or something? Anyhow to turn the display on again you would need to do something like this "xrandr --output vga1 --auto". However I've seen cases where xrandr refuses to work from a tty, so that is why I wanted to know if it return a list of displays. And to answer your question about the gues account, this will/should not do, the guest account has no rw access to your files.
[14:58] <BluesKaj> Guest6740. run ifconfig
[14:58] <__dan__> Guest6740: you could maybe try opening a terminal and running the DHCP client manually
[14:59] <__dan__> kaddi: eg. sudo dhclient wlan0
[14:59] <kaddi> BluesKaj what do you want from ifconfig?
[15:00] <lordievader> !pm | netQt
[15:01] <n8w> hey
[15:01] <kaddi> __dan__ that didn't help, i got the same error message as before
[15:01] <lordievader> netQt: I was afraid of that, you did prepend the "export DISPLAY=:0"?
[15:01] <BluesKaj> Guest48686. we need to see if you have an assigned innet address your pc IP
[15:01] <kaddi> BluesKaji did run ifconfig, the only thing that jumps to eye is that it only seems to have an ipv6 ip, not an ipv4 one
[15:02] <kaddi> (i changed my name so it's easier to recognize me)
[15:02] <n8w> after i lock my screen, there is now way i can log back in...the entire login window is missing. Kubuntu 13.10
[15:02] <n8w> anyone else experiencing the same?
[15:03] <kaddi> BluesKaj I've set the ipv4 dhcp to automatic and the ipv6 to ignored, but still didn't get an ipv4 address
[15:03] <BluesKaj> kaddi. ok good , do you have an IP
[15:03] <netQt> if I run only export DISPLAY=:0 it says nothing
[15:03] <BluesKaj> kaddi. try , sudo dhclient eth0
[15:03] <netQt> but with &&xrandr says cant open display :0
[15:04] <lordievader> netQt: It shouldn't it sets a variable of where the display is, does xrandr work after that? (And you did login to the gui right?)
[15:04] <kaddi> BluesKaj should it say anything or just run? Should I try reconnecting to the network?
[15:05] <BluesKaj> kaddi. , make sure your ethernet is connected
[15:05] <kaddi> BluesKaj i don't have ethernet
[15:05] <__dan__> kaddi: it should come up with a bunch of stuff basically saying you got an ip address
[15:05] <kaddi> i was talking about wifi
[15:06] <__dan__> kaddi: when i asked you to run sudo dhclient wlan0 before, what happened?
[15:06] <netQt> lordievader: sorry, didn't understand your question. I'm now in guest account
[15:06] <kaddi> it just ran, said nothing
[15:07] <kaddi> i tried to connect while the dhclient ran, but that didn't do anything either
[15:07] <lordievader> netQt: First you login to lightdm with the account that has the problem, then you switch over to the tty and run those xrandr commands again.
[15:07] <netQt> lordievader: ok, I will do that now
[15:08] <__dan__> the original error message you posted here reads to me as "apparmor blocked network management from getting an IP address via dhclient" but when you run it manually as root it's surprising you aren't seeing anything
[15:09] <BluesKaj> kaddi. wifi should have been mentioned at the outset
[15:09] <kaddi> you wanna know what's even weirder? I was connecting fine over wifi from the live-usb before installing. But now it's not working
[15:10] <kaddi> BluesKaj: sorry my bad. can't believe I forgot something as basic as that :/
[15:11] <BluesKaj> kadd which wifi chip?
[15:11] <BluesKaj> kaddi.^
[15:11] <kaddi> intel 7260
[15:12] <kaddi> intel corporation wireless 7260 (rev 6b)
[15:12]  * __dan__ thinks with these network issues he will stick with 13.04 a bit longer :P
[15:13] <__dan__> was quite looking forward to the upgrade but can't afford for this system to have any problems right now
[15:13] <kaddi> i also had a very weird issue with grub... apparently the grub.cfg got created in ($root)/EFI/kubuntu, but the prefix was pointing to ($root)/EFI/ubuntu
[15:14] <netQt> lordievader: Thaaank You, just saved MY LIFE!!!!! Thank you so much!!!!
[15:14] <kaddi> but that got fixed, luckily, by creating a grub.cfg in ubuntu pointing to the one in kubuntu
[15:14] <BluesKaj> kaddi. sudo modprobe iwlwifi
[15:14] <lordievader> netQt: No problem.
[15:15] <kaddi> BluesKaj, __dan__ the networkmanager gives me "ip configuration is unavailable", in case that helps any more than the dmesg extract
[15:15] <BluesKaj> kaddi. read above
[15:15] <kaddi> BluesKaj i get no return again.. just like with the dhclient
[15:15] <__dan__> kaddi: not really mate, I'm still confused why sudo dhclient wlan0 doesn't give you any output ... :/
[15:16] <BluesKaj> kaddi that's good there were no errors and if the driver loads properly there's no output
[15:16] <kaddi> ok :)
[15:16] <__dan__> I'm waiting to see where BluesKaj is going with this haha :)
[15:17] <BluesKaj> now try __dan__ 's suggestion
[15:17] <kaddi> as said, I can see the laptop login on the router and the router confirming authentication from the machine. So I think the issue is somewhere further down the road
[15:17] <kaddi> BluesKaj the sudo dhclient wlan0?
[15:17] <BluesKaj> kaddi.yes
[15:17] <BluesKaj> needed to load the driver first
[15:17] <kaddi> how long should that normally take?
[15:18] <kaddi> the dhclient, that is
[15:18] <__dan__> seconds
[15:18] <BluesKaj> not long just a sec oe 2
[15:18] <kaddi> ok, it's taken longer and there's no output so far
[15:18] <__dan__> but you should see some output regardless of whether it works or not
[15:18] <kaddi> it's been running about 10seconds nwo
[15:19] <__dan__> you should see stuff like "ISC Consortium DHCP" and "DHCPDISCOVER" bla bla bla at least if my memory serves
[15:20] <kaddi> yeah, i just dhclient -help in another window to see what it outputs, but nothing is appesaring in the window where i typed sudo dhclient wlan9
[15:20] <kaddi> wlan0 sorry
[15:20] <kaddi> it's still running btw
[15:22] <BluesKaj> kaddi. ok close the terminal to stop the essid search
[15:22] <kaddi> ok
[15:23] <BluesKaj> kaddi. sudo ifconfig wlan0 up , then run this , sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i essid
[15:24] <kaddi> i get 5 essid among them my own wifi
[15:25] <BluesKaj> kaddi. does network manager show them
[15:25] <kaddi> yes
[15:25] <__dan__> kaddi: if you have yet to run updates on that system it might be worth connecting with a cable to your router and running those first?
[15:25] <BluesKaj> ok try to connect
[15:26] <kaddi> BluesKaj but networkmanager shows more than those 5
[15:26] <kaddi> ok
[15:26] <BluesKaj> yeah but just connect to yours
[15:27] <kaddi> it's taking a long time to connect..so it doesn't look good. :/
[15:27] <kaddi> nope, still says "ip configuration is unavailable"
[15:28] <BluesKaj> kaddi. after loading the driver may be a reboot would ahve worked
[15:28] <kaddi> sorry "was" not "if"
[15:28] <BluesKaj> have
[15:28] <kaddi> is
[15:28] <kaddi> i can't type.. so i should reboot now?
[15:28] <chachan> hello guys!
[15:29] <BluesKaj> kaddi. I don't know what else to do , unless others have some ideas
[15:29] <kaddi> ok..i'm trying to avoid digging out the lan cable.. it's the only thing that's keeping me connected to you guys atm
[15:30] <__dan__> sorry kaddi reading the man page for dhclient it seems it only outputs to syslog by default
[15:31] <__dan__> would be worth looking at /var/log/syslog to see what the output was
[15:32] <__dan__> kaddi: might also be worth seeing if dhclient is already running and kill it if so
[15:32] <georgelappies> hi all, using  13.10 does anybody else see a black screen when trying to login. It does eventually log in but takes a lot longer when compared to KDE 4.10
[15:33] <georgelappies> the black screen is directly after you entered your credentials
[15:33] <thingol_> i have a strange problem : after upgrading to 13.10 i am only able to get a working kde environment if i boot from the recovery kernel. It seems like my nvidia drivers have troubles with kms. Anybody knows how i can solve or even troubleshoot this problem ?
[15:35] <kaddi> __dan__ i've pasted it here.. wasn't quite sure how much of ti you need: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6264445/
[15:35] <__dan__> kaddi: you could always try setting an IP address manually (sudo ifconfig wlan0 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0) as an example then (route add default gw 192.168.1.254) or whatever your network details are
[15:35] <__dan__> kaddi: thx looking now
[15:37] <__dan__> man it shouldnt be this hard to get stuff working :/
[15:37] <BluesKaj> georgelappies. are you able to get a TTY ?  ctrl+alt+F1 to F6
[15:38] <__dan__> kaddi: yeah DHCP is working but networkmanagement seems to be overriding it because apparmor is blocking it's communication with the dhclient, at least that's how I read it
[15:38] <BluesKaj> intel wifi is usually reliable , right out of the box
[15:38] <georgelappies> hi BluesKaj, the desktop eventually loads like after 3 seconds. The smooth transition from the login to the desktop is missing
[15:38] <kaddi> it was also working during install.. that's what has me so surprised
[15:39] <__dan__> indeed ... :(
[15:39] <BluesKaj> georgelappies. which graphics card ?
[15:39] <georgelappies> Nvidia Geforce 650 with opensource drivers
[15:40] <__dan__> kaddi: you could try manually assigning the IP address using the GUI (192.168.2.107)
[15:40] <georgelappies> BluesKaj: this isse was not present on KDE 4.10
[15:40] <georgelappies> It is not a major issue just a small regression
[15:40] <__dan__> kaddi: but to be honest if you haven't run updates on that machine yet I would connect via LAN cable and run those first, could save yourself a lot of messing about
[15:40] <georgelappies> but we should strive to not have regression right ;)
[15:42] <BluesKaj> no georgelappies , but if you graphics driver has dropped from a proprietary to the default then that could explain the delay
[15:42] <kaddi> ha! setting it manually just now worked
[15:42] <kaddi> thanks __dan__!
[15:43] <__dan__> kaddi: cool haha glad it finally worked :) obviously not a long-term solution but will do for now I guess
[15:43] <kaddi> yeah and it confirms that the problem is the dhcp\
[15:44] <kaddi> still, gonna start by doing what you suggested and update :p
[15:44] <__dan__> kaddi: yep the logs all pointed to that, it seems to be a problem with apparmor which I'm hoping will be fixed when you update
[15:44] <BluesKaj> kaddi. did you ever reboot since our discussion about it ?
[15:44] <kaddi> not sure.. i think so
[15:44] <kaddi> yeah, didn't you sya i should reboot after loading the module?
[15:44] <BluesKaj> updating and upgrading should always be recommended after a OS install, dunno why more ppl don'r do it
[15:45] <__dan__> I'm not familiar with apparmor but if it's anything like selinux there are profiles for system components which can sometimes be inaccurate and cause legitimate activity to be blocked
[15:45] <BluesKaj> kaddi. yes i did
[15:45] <kaddi> Then I'm quite sure I did :P
[15:46] <__dan__> hopefully this will be fine after you run updates but as I'm still on 13.04 I can't say for sure
[15:47] <__dan__> this is what annoys me with desktop linux, it seems certain parts of the system keep being re-written over and over but never seem to become totally solid
[15:47] <kaddi> 200MB of updates
[15:47] <__dan__> bluetooth support is the prime example of this
[15:47] <kaddi> it's gonna take a while
[15:47] <kaddi> on the positive side: the live-usb had terrible issues with resolution and readability because of my high-res screen. Now that  it's isntalled everything seems to be working and scaling much more nicely
[15:48] <__dan__> yeah to be honest the out-of-box experience with kubuntu is pretty poor
[15:49] <__dan__> even if you've got half a clue what you're doing it can be daunting at first to set up a sane environment
[15:51] <__dan__> I did an install of kubuntu 13.04 for an ex-girlfriend a few weeks back and something clearly went wrong because the default panel didn't appear - took a bit of messing to get that back to some level of normality
[15:52] <__dan__> most people would just go "this is shit" and go back to windows, and who can blame them
[15:52] <__dan__> maybe 2014 will be the year of the linux desktop :P haha
[15:52] <kaddi> hehe
[15:53] <pasjrwoctx> ERROR: Site kolab does not exist!
[15:53] <pasjrwoctx> dpkg: error processing kolabd (--remove):
[15:53] <pasjrwoctx>  subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[15:53] <pasjrwoctx> invoke-rc.d: initscript kolabd, action "start" failed.
[15:53] <pasjrwoctx> dpkg: error while cleaning up:
[15:53] <pasjrwoctx>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 5
[15:53] <pasjrwoctx> Errors were encountered while processing:
[15:53] <FloodBotK1> pasjrwoctx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:53] <pasjrwoctx>  kolabd
[15:53] <__dan__> after failing to capitalise on windows vista, microsoft really gave desktop linux the best chance it will ever get while releasing windows 8 ...
[15:53] <__dan__> pasjrwoctx: use pastebin ... read the channel topic please
[15:53] <kaddi> haha
[15:53] <pasjrwoctx> Help how do I fix this ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6264561/
[15:54] <kaddi> i must say though, i'm very impressed on how well kubuntu handles the touch screen
[15:54] <kaddi> didn't expect that to work at all, but it does :)
[15:54] <__dan__> pasjrwoctx: what did you do to get to that point? are we talking about a failed kolab install or something?
[15:55] <BluesKaj> ubiquity has problems with HW recognition on some pcs and the problems are not easy track down
[15:56] <__dan__> kaddi: never tried it on a touch screen, good to see the KDE guys are ahead of the game on that one, I remember reading about Plasma Active (or whatever it's called) and the efforts to make Calligra touchscreen capable, very cool stuff :)
[15:56] <pasjrwoctx> _dan, trying an upgrade and keep getting this on two Kubuntu boxes, both running 13:10
[15:57] <__dan__> pasjrwoctx: are you running kolab from their repositories?
[15:58] <__dan__> (FYI I know nothing about kolab other than it's existance, looks pretty cool tho)
[15:58] <pasjrwoctx> dan, I have no clue.  here is what happens on apt-get dist-upgrade http://paste.ubuntu.com/6264582/
[16:00] <BluesKaj> is kolabd a ppa . pasjrwoctx ?
[16:00] <BluesKaj> guess not :)
[16:00] <pasjrwoctx> BluesKaj: I have no clue, I just have a stock install and update
[16:01] <pasjrwoctx> I do not use it for anythng
[16:07] <BluesKaj> pasjrwoctx. run , sudo dpkg --configure -a , and pastebin the output , if any.
[16:07] <kaddi> xchat is based on gtk, right? there's no qt variation?
[16:09] <BluesKaj> kaddi. try konverstion , a lot less messy than xchat
[16:09] <BluesKaj> err konversation
[16:09] <pasjrwoctx> there is no oupt put of sudo dpkg -configure -a
[16:15] <BluesKaj> pas ok , have you ruin sudo apt-get -f install  ?
[16:16] <BluesKaj> pasjrwoctx.^
[16:22] <pasjrwoctx> sudo apt-get -f install also does nothing
[16:24] <BluesKaj> no erroes ?
[16:27] <BluesKaj> pasjrwoctx. unfortunately uninstalling the kolab apps  will take the whole kubuntu desktop with it , and there's no guarantee that purging will get rid of the config files
[16:28] <captain_haddock> Where has the "unify outputs" option gone in the display configuration screen in Saucy?
[16:29] <captain_haddock> I want both HDMI outputs to output the same thing. This was possible in the last LTS.
[16:30] <pasjrwoctx> So how do I fix my install?
[17:05] <wr3d> hi all
[17:06] <wr3d> where can i find the kdm config file in Kubuntu 3.10?
[17:06] <wr3d> i think it use to be in /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc
[17:07] <lordievader> wr3d: Saucy uses lightdm instead of kdm.
[17:07] <wr3d> oh okay
[17:07] <wr3d> thank you!
[17:07] <lordievader> wr3d: And the lightdm config files are in /etc/lightdm
[17:08] <wr3d> thanks
[17:15] <DrowKiroth> Hey everyone I need some help
[17:15] <lordievader> !ask | DrowKiroth
[17:15] <DrowKiroth> I am trying to install cmake
[17:15] <DrowKiroth> but cant seem to find it in the muno software manager
[17:15] <DrowKiroth>  I have to use it to build some lib files for sfml
[17:16] <DrowKiroth> ok sorryy
[17:16] <lordievader> DrowKiroth: sudo apt-get install cmake (or rather sudo apt-get install build-essential)
[17:17] <DrowKiroth> thanks is there something I can do to get my muno software manager to show more options
[17:17] <lordievader> DrowKiroth: Don't know, haven't used Muon for ages.
[17:18] <DrowKiroth> then where are you guys finding these list of packages at and knowing which ones to install
[17:20] <lordievader> DrowKiroth: What list of packages? And "apt-cache" has a search function. Or if you want to know what file is in what package you can use "apt-file".
[17:23] <DrowKiroth> I was just saying the packages in general and thanks for the feed back I am still new to linux and learning a ton
[17:28] <Shura_> Hi
[17:29] <Shura_> Can't start Akonadi on a fresh install of kubuntu 13.10.
[17:29] <Shura_> Someone can help me ?
[17:31] <DrowKiroth> One last question I ave a second monitor setup and connected to my laptop  but the refresh rate is just garbage  when using linux when using windows I have no issuess? Anyone got any ideas .
[17:32] <lordievader> DrowKiroth: System Settings -> Display And Monitor -> And then the icon next to the star.
[17:45] <DrowKiroth> Okay still no dice on the other window and its artifacts from moving a mouse and other windows around its acting like it doesn't want to refresh?
[17:47] <lordievader> DrowKiroth: What resolution and refresh rate did you supply? Is this the native resolution of the monitor?
[17:50] <DrowKiroth> checking
[17:55] <DrowKiroth> THE MONITOR IS 720p WITH 60HZ and the settings I have are 1280x720 with 60 HZ refresh rate
[18:01] <wr3d> after installing sound was working in Kubuntu, but restarting after updates disabled sound
[18:03] <wr3d> i have an asus m5a97 motherboard with a Realtek enbeded soundcard
[18:08] <Addle> Anyone managed to get kdeconnect to compile from the git sources?
[18:08] <lordievader> Addle: Ask around in #kde, that is where the Arch and Gentoo guys hang out (well the part that runs KDE).
[18:09] <Addle> Thanks, lordievader, I shall do that. :)
[18:13] <BluesKaj> wr3d.which audio chip is listed in alsamixer
[18:14] <BluesKaj> wr3d. type alsamixer into the terminal
[18:17] <wr3d> BluesKaj: HDA ATI SB
[18:17] <wr3d> it seems to change on reboot
[18:18] <wr3d> doesn't stay on it
[18:18] <wr3d> "Realtek ALC887-VD"
[18:19] <BluesKaj> wr3d. ok , run this, cat /proc/asound/modules
[18:20] <wr3d> BluesKaj: http://pastie.org/8414804
[18:24] <wr3d> BluesKaj: does it have anything to do with indexing it correctly in alsa-base.conf?
[18:27] <BluesKaj> Weasel[DK]. yes, but it could be autmuting is enabled, make sure it's disabled alsamixer
[18:28] <BluesKaj> Weasel[DK]. ignore  that
[18:30] <captain_haddock> Where has the "unify outputs" option gone in the display configuration screen in Saucy?
[18:30] <captain_haddock> I want both HDMI outputs to output the same thing. This was possible in the last LTS.
[18:30] <captain_haddock> Any idea, BluesKaj?
[18:34] <BluesKaj> captain_haddock. I have just one hdmi out , so that option doesn't show up in the config scrn
[18:36] <captain_haddock> BluesKaj: Thanks. In Saucy?
[18:36] <BluesKaj> yes
[18:36] <captain_haddock> What was it like for you in earlier versions?
[18:36] <BluesKaj> exactly the same in raring . captain_haddock
[18:37] <captain_haddock> Ah.
[18:37] <captain_haddock> BluesKaj: I guess I should search for solutions for raring whatsitcalled.
[18:37] <captain_haddock> Cheers.
[18:39] <BluesKaj> captain_haddock. all i see is rotate , toggle primary output and display resolutions
[18:39] <captain_haddock> BluesKaj: That's all I see as well (with two HDMIs).
[18:42] <captain_haddock> BluesKaj: It used to look more like this in Precise: http://i.imgur.com/WaMYjVh.png
[18:42] <captain_haddock> (There was also a "clone" option on this page.)
[18:43] <BluesKaj> captain_haddock. asuming both hdmi's are connected to a monitor/device
[18:43] <lordievader> captain_haddock: I believe I heard someone earlier in #kde answer to you that you could drag displays on top of eachother to enable clone output.
[18:45] <captain_haddock> lordievader: Lordy! I totally missed that. That's brilliant. Lemme try!
[18:45] <captain_haddock> Thanks mate.
[18:45] <captain_haddock> BluesKaj: I actually had a dummy third HDMI option in Precise.
[18:45] <captain_haddock> FWIW.
[18:47] <BluesKaj> captain_haddock. nvidia graphics ?
[18:53] <BluesKaj> bbl
[18:59] <csn> I just upgraded to 13.10 and my wifi doesn't work.
[19:01] <captain_haddock> BluesKaj: Intel
[19:02] <captain_haddock> csn: "does not work" is not a particularly helpful description.
[19:03] <csn> captain_haddock: Syslog says the DHCPv4 request is timing out. It worked fine before the upgrade.
[19:04] <captain_haddock> csn: does it work fine if you manually assign an IP?
[19:05] <csn> captain_haddock: I'm trying to - I'm not quite sure how to set up a manual IP.
[19:05] <csn> captain_haddock: I can get it to connect to the network, but I don't have an Internet connection.
[19:05] <captain_haddock> csn: can you see the network connections widget in your taskbar?
[19:06] <csn> captain_haddock: Yes
[19:06] <captain_haddock> csn: if you click it, there should be a couple of icons on a bar at the bottom of the pop-up. Click that to reach the "edit connections" app.
[19:07] <captain_haddock> (All this stuff is about as intuitive as mud.)
[19:07] <csn> captain_haddock: Got it. I'm in the "Edit connection" app.
[19:08] <captain_haddock> csn: Can you take it from here?
[19:10] <csn> captain_haddock: I'm not sure. I'm trying to use the syslog output from another computer that has connected via DHCP to set it up. I can't quite get it to work, though.
[19:10] <csn> captain_haddock: Is my "nameserver" in syslog the same as the DNS server?
[19:14] <captain_haddock> csn: I missed any replies that you made.
[19:16] <captain_haddock> lordievader: BluesKaj: BTW, the stacking trick works a charm! Thanks :)
[19:16] <csn> captain_haddock: I'm trying to get it set up. I'm not quite sure what all the things are. Is there a way to find settings from a valid connection and use them as a manual configuration?
[19:17] <captain_haddock> csn: ifconfig will give you IP details.
[19:17] <captain_haddock> csn: route -n will give you default gateway.
[19:18] <captain_haddock> csn: If you are on a non-corporate network, you should be fine with using Google's public DNS addresses: 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 .
[19:18] <captain_haddock> That's all you will need.
[19:26] <csn> captain_haddock: It says it connects, but I can't get internet connection.
[19:32] <captain_haddock> captain_haddock: Run ifconfig on the problem system and pastebin the results.
[19:33] <csn> captain_haddock: http://pastebin.com/fchUukpA
[19:36] <csn> captain_haddock: output from sudo tail -f -n0 /var/log/syslog http://pastebin.com/ztt9XALm
[19:38] <IppatsuMan> csn: I just joined, but I guess you have a problem with your wireless connection not working? Because I have the same problem on Kubuntu 13.10
[19:40] <csn> IppatsuMan: Yup, you guessed it. I just upgraded to 13.10. My connection worked fine in 13.04.
[19:40] <IppatsuMan> if that´s the case then this (german) post: http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/kein-lan-und-wlan-1511/#post-6007337 links to this post: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=146261 and it looks like setting Ipv6 to ¨link-local¨ fixes it
[19:40] <Addle> It seems kmix starts up before pulseaudio or something. I get the ALSA stuff in kmix, unless I restart it, whereas it then picks up the right sliders from pulseaudio. Anyone know of a workaround?
[19:40] <IppatsuMan> I have to try it, I don´t know if it works
[19:40] <captain_haddock> csn: There doesn't appear to be an IP address assigned.
[19:41] <csn> captain_haddock: The IP address isn't assigned because the DHCP request times out.
[19:42] <captain_haddock> csn: yes, so you're authenticated but not "connected" to the network yet.
[19:42] <captain_haddock> csn: do you want to try manually assigning an address?
[19:42] <IppatsuMan> well, I am going to try setting ipv6 to link-local, I´ll be back to report
[19:42] <csn> captain_haddock: correct.
[19:42] <captain_haddock> k
[19:43] <captain_haddock> (if you want to manually assign it, pastebin ifconfig and route -n from a working connection.)
[19:47] <csn> captain_haddock: http://pastebin.com/B36048ja
[19:49] <captain_haddock> csn: You can try to set your IP to 10.0.0.32 , subnet mask to 255.255.255.0 , gateway to 10.0.0.1 and DNS servers to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 .
[19:49] <captain_haddock> (You can do this via the "edit connections" dialog.)
[19:52] <csn> IppatsuMan: On mine, with IPv6 set to link-local, it connects to the network, but there's no internet connection.
[19:52] <IppatsuMan> csn: exactly what I was going to say
[19:52] <csn> IppatsuMan: So, no luck there :(
[19:52] <IppatsuMan> apparently the DHCP client is still unable to get an address
[19:54] <csn> captain_haddock: It claims it's connected, but internet doesn't work. Firefox stalls at "Looking up /website/"
[19:54] <csn> I have a question over on AskUbuntu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/361495/kubuntu-13-10-wifi-doesnt-work-dhcp-timeout
[19:55] <csn> That contains more info.
[19:55] <Addle> csn: I had issues with that, though on beta 2, and I had apparmor messages in dmesg. Something to look for, though I think that was fixed. This fresh install doesn't have that issue.
[19:56] <IppatsuMan> I´d say it´s an issue with NetworkManager and the dhcp client
[19:57] <IppatsuMan> csn: I am sure it is not an hardware issue because I have a completely different wireless interface (Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6235) and I have the same problem
[19:57] <IppatsuMan> so we can rule out that
[19:58] <IppatsuMan> I´d like to download the latest packages, update the live image then try again
[20:01] <csn> addle: dmesg doesn't show anything unusual.
[20:33] <Addle> Argh, this "kmix starting before pulseaudio" problem is getting irritating.
[20:35] <templarian_> I have something that I'm not sure how to resolve, and some searching hasnt yielded anything yet
[20:36] <templarian_> I don't have any minimize buttons :(
[21:37] <IppatsuMan> csn: just to add to the problem: I booted the Live CD and installed all the released updates (except the unsupported ones) but that didn´t fix the problem
[21:38] <Strav`> Hi! Anyone else having a "text contrast" issue on plasmoid button widgets when using a non-default color scheme (obsidian coast in my case)? (btw, #kde is dead atm so I'm asking here)
[21:39] <csn> IppatsuMan: You used the 13.10 live CD?
[21:39] <IppatsuMan> csn: yes, then I tetherd my phone to set up a connection (btw the connection worked perfectly) and downloaded all the available updates
[21:41] <csn> IppatsuMan: Then it's definately something with 13.10. I have my PC connected via ethernet to my netbook, so all my updates are installed also. DHCP over ethernet works fine.
[21:45] <csn> IppatsuMan: Did you try setting up a manual IP address? I tried, and it didn't work. I wonder if yours would do the same thing.
[21:49] <IppatsuMan> csn: I can´t right now (I can´t kill my flatmates´ Internet connection)
[21:50] <IppatsuMan> Not having a reliable connection manager makes this release useless to me, I need to find a fix
[21:52] <csn> IppatsuMan: What do you mean? If you go into "Edit Connection", IPv4 tab, and change the method to Manual, you can set your own IP if you know your gateway, netmask, and DNS servers.
[21:52] <csn> IppatsuMan: I tried configuring it the same as the Wifi connection on my netbook (different IP of course), but it still did't work.
[21:56] <IppatsuMan> csn: well, I should disable the DHCP server on my router to be compliant (but I´d kill my flatmates´ connection). I can use Manual and set everything up and it could work
[21:57] <IppatsuMan> I guess it´s worth a shot
[21:58] <Addle> IppatsuMan: You should be able to add the static IP to the router and keep DHCP active.
[21:58] <Addle> Oops, gone.
[22:04] <IppatsuManLive> csn: setting up manually the connection works
[22:04] <IppatsuManLive> I am using the live cd right now
[22:05] <IppatsuManLive> I am using the IP that has been just assigned to my 13.04 installation (that works fine)
[22:05] <csn> IppatsuManLive: That's odd. I tried, but the DNS server didn't work.
[22:05] <IppatsuManLive> I am using 8.8.8.8 as DNS
[22:05] <IppatsuManLive> I also set IPv6 to link local
[22:06] <IppatsuManLive> and I put a check in the "IPv4 is required for this connection" checkbox (IPv4 tab in Network Manager)
[22:07] <csn> IppatsuManLive: Thanks for the extra info. I don't think I had my IPv6 set to link-local. I'll try that now.
[22:10] <IppatsuManLive> now that I think about it after installing the updates I did not restart the network-manager service
[22:10] <IppatsuManLive> I'll try now
[22:23] <IppatsuManLive> Ok, plasma-nm isn't very happy when networking is restarted
[22:25] <csn> IppatsuManLive: So are you still succesfully connected via wifi & manual configuration?
[22:25] <IppatsuManLive> csn: right now I am connected via phone tethering, but it worked via manual configuration
[22:27] <IppatsuManLive> I booted my current installation of Ubuntu (Kubuntu 13.04 didn't work on my laptop), I copied all the settings, rebooted using the live CD and  set up the connection manually
[22:28] <IppatsuManLive> I set IPv6 on "link-local" and checked the "IPv4 is required for this connection" checkbox
[22:29] <csn> IppatsuManLive: I tried that, but something didn't work. I've got a kind of acceptable workaround for now, but I hope something gets fixed soon!
[22:30] <IppatsuManLive> yup
[22:36] <IppatsuManLive> I'll try using wicd
[22:58] <IppatsuMan> wicd doesn´t work either (it also doesn´t work out of the box on Kubuntu)
[23:04] <IppatsuMan> csn: did you post about your problem in any other place in addition to AskUbuntu so that I can follow up with your issue?
[23:14] <csn> IppatsuMan: No, I didn't. Don't you have a StackExchange account?
[23:28] <csn> IppatsuMan: I didn't post it anywhere else. Don't you have a StackExchange account?
[23:47] <kaddi> i want to keep track of the temps in my laptop.. any utility you can recommned?
[23:49] <hellslinger> does anyone know what package installs the digital-clock applet/widget?
[23:51] <kaddi> the preinstalled one?
[23:53] <Addle> kaddi: I have a plasma applet called "Hardware Temperature" I use to monitor it. That and lm-sensors.
[23:53] <kaddi> ah yes, lm-sensors
[23:53] <hellslinger> kaddi: yeah, I'd like to get the sourcecode
[23:54] <kaddi> you could try using apt-file to do a reverse lookup, if i recall correctly
[23:55] <kaddi> thanks Addle. lm-sensor was what i was looking for:)
[23:55] <Addle> kaddi: Excellent, no prob :)
[23:55] <hellslinger> kaddi: I tried that, but unfortunately there were no results
[23:58] <csn> IppatsuMan: Did you find anything out?