[02:14] <bcurtiswx> sarnold, thanks, i'll try that
[18:14] <jetsaredim> anyone familiar with how to resolve ia32-libs in 13.10?
[18:15] <mdeslaur> jetsaredim: resolve? Ubuntu has been multiarch for a while now, nothing is supposed to use ia32-libs anymore
[18:16] <jetsaredim> mdeslaur: ok - so if I'm on amd64 and i'm trying to use a deb that says it needs ia32-libs to function...
[18:16] <mdeslaur> jetsaredim: then your deb is broken. It should simply require whatever i386 library...for example: libxyz:i386
[18:16] <mdeslaur> the ia32-libs package is still there, for backwards compatibility, but it shouldn't be used anymore
[18:16] <jetsaredim> its not coming up in apt-cache or apt-get install
[18:16] <mdeslaur> jetsaredim: what deb is this?
[18:17] <jetsaredim> its a deb for printer support for a brother printer
[18:17] <mdeslaur> jetsaredim: what is not coming up in apt-cache or apt-get install?
[18:17] <jetsaredim> ia32-libs
[18:18] <mdeslaur> ah, it's been removed in saucy apparently
[18:18] <mdeslaur> good
[18:19] <mdeslaur> jetsaredim: I suggest sending an email to Brother tech support to ask them to fix their package
[18:19] <jetsaredim> there was never a hard dep on ia32-libs
[18:19] <mdeslaur> jetsaredim: oh, so what's broken then?
[18:19] <jetsaredim> but i had to install it under 13.04 in order to make it work
[18:19] <jetsaredim> they don't have the deb packaged with the dep
[18:19] <jetsaredim> but operationally it requires ia32-libs
[18:20] <jetsaredim> or whatever was pulled in by ia32-libs
[18:20] <mdeslaur> right, so you just need to install those packages yourself
[18:20] <jetsaredim> right
[18:21] <mdeslaur> do you have a link to the brother driver? perhaps I can take a look and see what it needs
[18:21] <jetsaredim> http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/before.html#004
[18:21] <mdeslaur> also, are the brother drivers in the archive too old?
[18:21] <jetsaredim> lib32stdc++ aparentky
[18:21] <jetsaredim> *apparently
[18:21] <jetsaredim> they worked fine under 13.04
[18:22] <jetsaredim> but i'm not sure if that means lib32stdc++6 or some i386 form of a different lib
[18:23] <mdeslaur> jetsaredim: what printer is this for?
[18:23] <jetsaredim> mfcj835dw
[18:24] <jetsaredim> also - on an unrelated note - is there a way to restart or kick the panel in the head?
[18:26] <mdeslaur> the panel?
[18:26] <jetsaredim> yea top panel
[18:26] <mdeslaur> oh, I don't know
[18:26] <jetsaredim> clock & all that
[18:26] <jetsaredim> it seems to have gone off the deep end on me
[18:28] <jetsaredim> fwiw the debs do provide a ppd file that's valid for the printer
[18:32] <mdeslaur> jetsaredim: I don't see a single i386 binary in those cups packages
[18:32] <mdeslaur> they all look like shell scripts
[18:32] <jetsaredim> no idea
[18:32] <jetsaredim> i installed the lib32stdc++6 and it seems to work now
[18:32] <jetsaredim> so whatev
[18:33] <mdeslaur> oh wait, I found some
[18:33] <mdeslaur> jetsaredim: ok, glad to hear it's working
[18:33] <mdeslaur> they definitely should update their documentation