[00:00] <suore> jrib, its happen when im push backspac, in terminal or giu. but typing area must be clear
[00:02] <d353r7f0x> is anyone else having trouble installing nvidia 319.60 drivers on 13.10?
[00:02] <Ari-Yang> !anyone | d353r7f0x
[00:03] <Huleno> Can someone please help?
[00:03] <suore> other problem:  rmmod xpad  Error: Module xpad is not currently loaded
[00:03] <d353r7f0x> any one have a dkms build failure installing nvidia 319.60 drivers on 13.10?
[00:04] <Ari-Yang> !ask > Huleno
[00:04] <Huleno> checking the properties of my home directory the file size reads as
[00:04] <Ari-Yang> !pastebin
[00:04] <Huleno> 128 TB but the system is only 500G how can this be?
[00:06] <rOOb> !help
[00:07] <rOOb> !bot
[00:07] <axisys> any guide to follow to fix my network? upgrade automtically canceled since not enough space /boot. but both wlan0 and eth0 is missing . no network!
[00:07] <Huleno> Freaky
[00:12] <supergauntlet> So I'm trying to play Kerbal Space Program, and when I start up the game everything works except input
[00:12] <supergauntlet> Sound works, there aren't any frame issues, but I can't actually click on anything in the window
[00:13] <supergauntlet> I'm on 13.04 with optimus working with bumblebee
[00:13] <supergauntlet> and regardless of whether I run with the dedicated GPU or the iGPU this issue happens
[00:13] <supergauntlet> So I don't believe it's a video card issue
[00:15] <austin_> hey guys
[00:16] <austin_> anyone there?
[00:16] <supergauntlet> I honestlly don't think anyones paying much attention
[00:16] <supergauntlet> but ask anyways, worth a shot
[00:17] <austin_> :<
[00:17] <austin_> how well does Wine scale with video games
[00:17] <Ari-Yang> austin_: guess it depends on your computer?
[00:17] <Ari-Yang> ram
[00:17] <Ari-Yang> cpu
[00:17] <Ari-Yang> etc.
[00:18] <Ari-Yang> why not just try it out yourself and see.
[00:18] <supergauntlet> austin_: it's almost perfect with directx9 games
[00:18] <supergauntlet> it struggles with dx10+11 though
[00:18] <austin_> ah,  on Sparky linux
[00:19] <austin_> the gaming edition comes pre installed with options to install some decent games
[00:25] <dannymichel> I don't know where to get help with this, because I'm afraid of getting flamed in both channels, but i run Unity on mint, and I replace nemo (or whatever it was) with nautilus as my file manager as well, and that seemed to work, but when i click my mounted drives or folders from my desktop, it still opens in nemo or caja or whatever it is. Any ideas?
[00:25] <Huleno> if my directories were  /home/usrname how do i change to /home/myname
[00:26] <supergauntlet> what
[00:26] <supergauntlet> Huleno: what are you asking?
[00:26] <rOOb> Wow, I'm *not* tring to flame or anything but I just installed ubuntu 13.10 and....its horrible. Vanilla install and so far I've had nothing but issues. Flash crashes firefox, suspend doesnt work, the system settings manager has crashed multiple times....
[00:26] <Huleno> i want to change the name of the directory like in my example
[00:27] <Huleno> @ supergauntlet - tries using mv but it wont let me'
[00:27] <supergauntlet> you want to change the name of your home directory?
[00:28] <Huleno> @supergauntlet - no, just a subdirectory of home with the user name
[00:28] <supergauntlet> wut?
[00:29] <Huleno> so if the file i want to change is in /home
[00:29] <Huleno> the name of the file is /home/usrname
[00:30] <bekks> Thats a folder, not a file.
[00:30] <supergauntlet> yeah
[00:30] <Huleno> i want to change /usrname to /myname
[00:30] <bekks> Huleno: Then you would have to change your username to myname, too.
[00:30] <Huleno> @bekk difference??
[00:30] <OerHeks> that would be you main $USER name, make a 2nd account with that name and export it. if you change your current user name, that directory name stays unchanged
[00:30] <Huleno> mv /home/usrname /home/myname did not work
[00:30] <Aprel> rOOb: when I installed 13.04, sound over HDMI was broken. Only fix for a few weeks after release was install a rc kernel. Seems like it's better to wait a while before installing the latest release. Thanks for the tip, and I was thinking about upgrading.
[00:31] <bekks> Huleno: Thats your homefolder. Unless changing your username, do not try to rename that folder.
[00:31] <pfifo> bekks: your home folder can have any name/location you want, default is /home/<username>
[00:32] <bekks> pfifo: Yeah, but you will have to do more than just "mv ..."
[00:32] <Huleno> @pfifo how do i do this?
[00:33] <pfifo> Huleno: before I offer you any advice, can I ask why your doing this?
[00:33] <mbait> Greetings! Is this appropricate channel for asking development questions?
[00:33] <Huleno> and all the paths that lead to that folder
[00:33] <Huleno> Yes becuase I don't want my name listed on a file/folder/directory
[00:34] <Huleno> just what name i give it
[00:34] <pfifo> mbait: no its not, try #ubuntu-dev or ##programming
[00:34] <mbait> pfifo: thanks!
[00:34] <bekks> Huleno: And why is that of importance? Do other people have access to your computer?
[00:35] <Huleno> @bekks mostly because it's annoying
[00:36] <bekks> Huleno: I'm used to it on hundreds of servers running various OS. ;)
[00:36] <pfifo> Huleno: then you likely want to change your username altogether, even if you 'mv /home/huleno /home/nothuleno' the files will still show their owner as 'huleno'
[00:36] <Huleno> @pfifo unlike windows isn't ubuntu supposed to give me that control
[00:36] <bekks> Huleno: Windows give you the same control mechanism ;)
[00:37] <Huleno> @pfifo is there a way to do this all at once in terminal
[00:37] <sleezio> hello, i was a linux mint user untail today, mint had a video driver for my nvidia card i could choose, does ubuntu 13.10 have a driver for my card...and where can i find where to pick it, or will i need to manually install the driver?
[00:38] <Huleno> @bekks but windows is so corporate. How to ever trust anyone?
[00:38] <pfifo> Huleno: I would just, delete my user account, then create a user account with the proper name/home folder... but make sure you dont get stuck in between, might want to do this from recovery mode
[00:38] <OerHeks> maybe usermod -d function can do that ? never done that > http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/quantal/en/man8/usermod.8.html
[00:39] <Huleno> @pfifo assuming del my usr account would also del its contents
[00:39] <Huleno> how to export
[00:40] <pfifo> Huleno: no it wont delete your home folder, plus, you said it was already mv'ed
[00:40] <pfifo> Huleno: OerHeks might have something with usermod -d
[00:41] <Huleno> no I said I tried mv buy received an error (did not work)
[00:41] <Huleno> @pfifo reading...
[00:42] <paulo_> ola
[00:42] <pfifo> Huleno: looks like 'sudo usermod -md /home/nothuleno huleno'
[00:42] <OerHeks> i would change this current account 1000 to 1001, make an new account with desired name  and user id 1000, add it to sudoers, move my stuff, delete ssh keys and make new ones and delete 1001 ... or reinstall
[00:42] <Huleno> @OerHeks Thanks, looks promising. usermod -d -m maybe?
[00:43] <Huleno> @pfifo sounds right
[00:44] <OerHeks> yep, that looks fine, pfifo, only perform this in single user mode
[00:44] <pfifo> OerHeks: I would edit my passwd file, but I know Id get in trouble for telling someone todo that
[00:46] <Huleno> @OerHeks single user mode not recovery??
[00:46] <OerHeks> Huleno you did not use encrypted disk? that would make things a little bit more complicated
[00:46] <OerHeks> yes, recovery = single user mode
[00:47] <skywalker> hello
[00:47] <Huleno> @OerHeks? encrypted disk?? Any documentation??
[00:47] <skywalker> hello
[00:47] <OerHeks> or encrypted home
[00:48] <skywalker> hellllllllllllllllllllllllooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[00:48] <OerHeks> that would be an option in the installer, since 10.04 AFAIK ?
[00:48] <darkangel> Ubuntu 13.10 XD Enough Said lol
[00:48] <skywalker> hi
[00:48] <OerHeks> hi skywalker
[00:48] <Huleno> maybe I should just download a brand new version
[00:48] <skywalker> hi OerHeks
[00:49] <skywalker> where are you from
[00:49] <Huleno> I'm behind a few anyway
[00:49] <bekks> Huleno: Which will setup /home/username just as your current version.
[00:49] <bekks> Huleno: Which ubuntu version do you use?
[00:49] <skywalker> hello?
[00:49] <darkangel> 13.10 is the FASTEST ive ever exp.
[00:50] <darkangel> i tryed them all from 10.04
[00:50] <bekks> !ot | skywalker
[00:50] <Huleno> @bekks Too embarrassing to say...I'm behind
[00:50] <bekks> Huleno: Unless you're on 6.04, or something, thats not embarassing :) So which version do you use?
[00:51] <Huleno> @bekks don't I don't have an option to have a fresh install (i.e. brand new baby)??
[00:51] <bekks> Huleno: You do. But which version are you on?
[00:53] <Huleno> @bekk s Lucid
[00:53] <Huleno> why do you ask?
[00:53] <dannymichel> I don't know where to get help with this, because I'm afraid of getting flamed in both channels, but i run Unity on mint, and I replace nemo (or whatever it was) with nautilus as my file manager as well, and that seemed to work, but when i click my mounted drives or folders from my desktop, it still opens in nemo or caja or whatever it is. Any ideas?
[00:53] <bekks> Huleno: Lucid is still having support as server.
[00:53] <MonkeyDust> Huleno  type be [tab] to complete bekks name
[00:54] <Huleno> MonkeyDust: Cool Thanks!
[00:54] <OerHeks> !mint | dannymichel
[00:54] <OerHeks> mint has its own issues
[00:55] <MonkeyDust> more issue than ubuntu, i want to get rid of it, but my old laptop won't read USB sticks anymore [end-of-rant]
[00:55] <darkangel> bummer
[00:56] <javanic> hello all
[00:56] <OerHeks> MonkeyDust, sometimes removal of the battery,and powercord and holding the powerbutton pressed for 15,5 second can do good tricks to reset
[00:57] <_______________-> MonkeyDust, what do you want in its place?
[00:57] <javanic> i need a bit of help.. on an ubuntu help page i found some info to optimize ram so my video wasn't at times .. weird.. so i did this "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="mem=896mb" and now it won't boot lol
[00:58] <javanic> the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" was already there i just added the rest "mem=896mb"
[00:59] <Aprel> javanic: why not just revert it to what it was before? Boot into a liveCD environemtn if needed.
 i don't know how to revert.. I can boot from the usb boot i made, but then what?
 this is on a dell "netbook" type of laptop
[01:00] <Aprel> javanic: what was the name of the file you edited, grub.cfg?
[01:00] <pfifo> javanic: then you have to chroot, undo the edit you made and update grub again... it will be much easier for you to reinstall
[01:00] <javanic> i did it in " sudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[01:02] <Aprel> javanic: then boot into a liveCD, mount your harddrive, cd to the mount point, and type sudo etc/default/grub, and edit back.
[01:02] <pfifo> javanic: when you boot do you get an OS selection screen from grub
[01:02] <pfifo> Aprel: that wont work
 so just run in the live cd and do the change there?
[01:04] <Aprel> pfifo: ah, wasn't thinking when I typed the path. looks like he ran update-grub. Thought he just edited his grub.cfg file.
 i did edit it
[01:04] <Aprel> javanic, no you'll need to do that _and_ update grub, which is more difficult, lemme get a link for you with instuctions...
[01:05] <wilee-nilee> Aprel, needs a chroot
 i added the "mem=896mb" saved it and updated the grub
[01:05] <pfifo> wilee-nilee: no chroot is needed
[01:06] <Aprel> javanic: here's a good tutorial: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[01:06] <sasha_> hello
[01:06] <wilee-nilee> pfifo, to update grub in the install from a live cd yes.
[01:06] <sasha_> i keep getting this error upon boot after installing ubuntu 13.10: http://pastebin.com/BZkkCZAk any ideas ?
[01:06] <pfifo> wilee-nilee: in that case yes... however no livecd is needed so no chroot is needed
[01:07] <wilee-nilee> pfifo, I answered although not specific enough that scenario. ;)
[01:07] <Aprel> pfifo: if he can't boot into his filesystem, how can he update without a livecd...?
[01:08] <javanic> i'm booting now from the live CD.. see what happens. I'll keep ya posted
 thanks for the link
[01:08] <wilee-nilee> Aprel, tty
[01:08] <pfifo> javanic: I highly recommend pressing 'e' at the grub screen, and doing a one time edit on the command line, removing the mem=896mb that you put in, then pressing ctrl+x to boot, the perform your edit and grub update directly from your system.
 i just tried that and i'm at a 'grub' command.. don't know how to navigate from here to where i made the change...
[01:13] <wilee-nilee> !tab | javanic
[01:13] <pfifo> javanic: sounds like you pressed 'c' instead of 'e'
[01:13] <pfifo> javanic: hit esc to go back
[01:17] <javanic> pfifo, i'm at a screen that says "setparams" at the top.. nothing here about what i changed
[01:18] <pfifo> javanic: sounds  like you highlighted your windows entry, highlight the one that you usually boot, then press 'e'
[01:20] <pfifo> sasha_ still here/
[01:20] <Ari-Yang> how does one uninstall a ttf (font)?
[01:20] <abaddon> Hey guys, ok, I just started using lfm (it's a terminal file manager). My problem is it wont always recognize the file I click on apropriatly. I try opening an mkv file and half the videos in a directory are playable while the other half aren't.
[01:20] <abaddon> What am I doing wrong?
[01:22] <javanic> i think i may have gotten it.. it seems to be booting
[01:22] <esde> i've got a goflex home nas, trying to make the mounted drive readable. I followed this guide http://www.rangify.com/solved-how-to-mount-seagate-freeagent-goflex-home-nas-drive-to-linuxubuntu-permanently/ to moutn the drive, but it's read only and shows root as owner
[01:22] <esde> *writable
[01:23] <pfifo> javanic: ok, perhaps, now that you know your way around the grub's built in editor, try a few other numbers besides 896mb, see if you can get one working, and then change it in your /etc/default/grub or if nothing workd, remove it all together
[01:24] <javanic> pfifo,  it showed up in there in somewhere else.. not where it seemed that i put it.. but i deleted what i figured it was
[01:24] <javanic> pfifo,  seemed to work LOL
[01:24] <abaddon> esde: What does your /etc/fstab say?
[01:25] <nerder> hey
[01:25] <emin_> hello
[01:25] <javanic> sup?
[01:25] <Aprel> abaddon: mkv files can contain a number of video/audio formats. Could it be that you haven't installed the necessary codecs to play all files?
[01:26] <emin_> yep please
[01:26] <pfifo> javanic: the GRUB_CMD_LINE in /etc/default/grub only contains pary of what actually makes up the kernel command line
[01:26] <nerder> my pc turns off while i watch steaming, could be a driver problem?
[01:26] <emin_> I was upgrading my ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10 on a touchscreen lenove laptop
[01:26] <cuddylier_> Anyone know why ioncube will not install? Here is my phpinfo: http://puu.sh/4Ty9L.png and I added the line "zend_extension = /usr/local/lib/ioncube/ioncube_loader_lin_5.4.so" to the /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini file.
[01:26] <abaddon> Aprel: I'm using smplayer to launch all media. It hasn't had issues before
[01:26] <emin_> after restarting I got this error message
[01:26] <nerder> i check the temperature and is clsoe to 30°
[01:27] <javanic> pfifo,  so what was that "grub" command line that i got to and what is it used for?
[01:27] <esde> http://pastebin.com/0XNeKfrC and i get no errors when i execute the second command, mount -a
[01:27] <emin_> hid-multitouch ... usb_submit_urb(ctrl) faile: -1
[01:27] <Ari-Yang> nerder: what video card do you have? and what ubuntu version are you running?
[01:27] <fck_em_all> takIl dostum
[01:27] <bekks> nerder: Most likely it turns off because nothing happened - no mouse movement, no keyboard input - for a while.
[01:27] <wilee-nilee> nerder, install lm-sensor and run it, not sure how that relates honestly.
[01:27] <pfifo> javanic: I dont understand, rephrase your question
[01:28] <kriskropd> Is there a way to convert epub and mobi to txt and pdf via bash?
[01:28] <javanic> pfifo,  well it was like a command line.. but said grub.. never seen it before
[01:28] <emin_> any idea how to fix it?
[01:29] <Wug> javanic: when you were booting? there is a grub prompt which allows you to edit your boot settings before you load an operating system
[01:29] <wagonboi> what's the lightest way to add a GUI that I can VNC into on Ubuntu server?
[01:29] <nerder> when i say turn off i mean shut donw
[01:29] <nerder> *down
[01:29] <pfifo> javanic: you can manually type boot commands into the command line, and do a bunch of other stuff too. if you want more info read the manual for grub, 'man grub'
[01:29] <fck_em_all> takIlllll
[01:29] <nerder> Ari-Yang, i have nvidia G100
[01:29] <wilee-nilee> nerder, what release?
[01:29] <nerder> ubuntu 13.04
[01:30] <abaddon> esde: You could add a line to /etc/fstab that specafies how the drive will mount. For instance, if you know it mounts as sdb2 then you'ld put an entry like so ::  /dev/sdb2 /media/GoDrive auto user,root 0 0
[01:30] <emin_> can anyone help with my system upgrade problem?
[01:30] <javanic> pfifo,  i just rebooted it and it wont start up again LOL
[01:30] <ali_> hi
[01:30] <wilee-nilee> nerder, You sure it's not sleeping or going to hibernate?
[01:30] <nerder> how can i be sure?
[01:30] <fck_em_all> 12.04 candIr
[01:30] <envoyweb> *** anyone able to answer or compliment my hours of googling on what should be a simple samba issue? ***
[01:30] <Wug> I have a problem and it's proving quite hard to fix.  Can someone tell me what I'd need to do to uninstall and reinstall the entire GUI environment on ubuntu 13.10
[01:31] <wilee-nilee> nerder, generally hitting keys or moving the mouse brings it back.
[01:31] <wilee-nilee> nerder, Depends on how you have it set up.
[01:31] <nerder> no, i'm sure that is completely shutted donw
[01:31] <javanic> pfifo, i guess i have to go back in and change it when it boots then..
[01:31] <pfifo> javanic: after editing /etc/default/grub you have to run 'sudo update-grub'
[01:32] <javanic> pfifo,  ok.. i'm on it
[01:32] <wilee-nilee> nerder, be sure to use nicks here, a shutdown is unlikely without a prompt to do so.
[01:33] <fck_em_all> #diren12.04
[01:33] <envoyweb> anyone ever get a fail to connect to a share when connected to samba from ubuntu - out of memory?
[01:33] <nerder> wilee-nilee, it happends just when i'm watching streaming
[01:33] <abaddon> esde: It should then mount as a read/write drive for both root and your user. So as long as you don't remove it and add other drives when its not attached you should have it automount and stay mounted
[01:33] <wilee-nilee> nerder, Have you installed the lm-sensor are you sure the temps are correct?
[01:33] <jrib> is there a standard way for me to template config files?
[01:33] <abaddon> Wug: Are you using Unity as the desktop?
[01:34] <wilee-nilee> !lm-sensor | nerder
[01:34] <nerder> wilee-nilee, lm-sensors is already installed, but i can run just typing sensor?
[01:34] <Wug> abaddon: actually, I just made some progress. hold on while I reassess
[01:34] <OerHeks> nerder, what for system, apple?
[01:34] <abaddon> esde: Any luck?
[01:34] <envoyweb> if anyone is willing to help troubleshoot my samba error, I have posted my ubuntu version and testparms at http://askubuntu.com/questions/360792/ubuntu-13-04-client-cannot-connect-to-raspbian-samba-share
[01:35] <abaddon> Wug: Ok, coolio
[01:35] <Aprel> nerder: sensors, with the s
[01:35] <nerder> OerHeks, no it's not
[01:35] <wilee-nilee> nerder, we are just confirming stuff here but this is the senor link. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[01:35] <nerder> i have 30° right now
[01:35] <wilee-nilee> sensor*
[01:36] <javanic> pfifo, ok.. i think i got the hang of this.. now should i change that value? or is there a better way to allocate more ram to my video card?
[01:36] <javanic> pfifo,  btw it booted fine after i rinsed and repeated lmao
[01:36] <Wug> abaddon: ok, the current issue seems to be that the desktop is nonfunctional.  Unity (now) seems to work fine, but the desktop does not have anything on it (it should).  Additionally, unity locks up if the desktop is the active window (all other applications are minimized) and stays locked until I alt tab
[01:36] <emin_> Hello again, different and simpler question
[01:36] <Wug> I'm unable to get a response by right clicking, etc
[01:36] <emin_> can I reinstall without loosing data?
[01:37] <wilee-nilee> emin_, what data?
[01:37] <pfifo> !details | javanic: usually you have todo that in the bios. Lets just start at the beginning, with the original issue
[01:37] <emin_> folders under home
[01:37] <wilee-nilee> emin_, With a separate home yes, and use nicks here.
[01:38] <abaddon> Wug: That goes beyond my skill lvl.... XD You could be missing a dependancy? It's just I wouldn't know what it is
[01:38] <emin_> can you teach me how to use nicks please?
[01:38] <abaddon> Wug: Have you tried other De's?
[01:38] <Wug> no I haven't
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> emin_, If your home is not separate you can make o it so, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[01:38] <Wug> abaddon: I'm sure it's a missing package or something, but I don't know how to identify what it might be
[01:38] <envoyweb> emin_: all you have to do is type the first few chars of a name and hit tab
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> !tab | emin_ nick use
[01:38] <envoyweb> just like you are in the console
[01:39] <abaddon> Wug: Can you fet up aptitude?
[01:39] <envoyweb> yeah, it's AWESOME that you can do this in the CLI
[01:39] <emin_> wilee-nilee: thanks
[01:39] <Wug> abaddon: ...set?
[01:39] <javanic> pfifo,  ok.. i'm running 12.04 LTS on a dell inspiron mini 10. it has 1g of ram and an atom 1.66g x2 processor.. the desktop sometimes distorts and there is distortion in the top bar of open windows. i figure it is something to do with the video card
[01:39] <pfifo> Wug: real quick, before anything else, create a new user, login with it, and see if things work
[01:39] <abaddon> Wug: *get
[01:39] <wilee-nilee> emin_, No problem, we may be abe to get the upgrade running, details are needed is all.
[01:39] <Wug> "...can I get up aptitude?"
[01:39] <javanic> pfifo,  when i say it distorts i mean i can
[01:40] <javanic> pfifo,  i can't read what it says , like lines through it
[01:40] <pfifo> javanic: I know just what your talking about
[01:40] <Wug> I can get it.  Ill do that
[01:40] <emin_> wilee-nilee: just to add some context, I was updateing from 12.04 to 12.10 and after restarting I got an error saying that there is a problem with the multitouch
[01:41] <envoyweb> to the room*** has anyone had any issues upgrading from 13.04 to 13.10
[01:41] <abaddon> Press ctrl+alt+f2. login with your cradentials, ie user name and pwd. the typesudo aptitude. It may list broken packages
[01:41] <wilee-nilee> emin_, so a broken upgrade?
[01:41] <emin_> wilee-nilee: so I was thinking to try installing 13.10 via usb hoping not to loose the data under the home folder, can this be done?
[01:41] <javanic> pfifo, that's a relief lol!
[01:41] <emin_> wilee-nilee:
[01:41] <emin_> wilee-nilee:  yes
[01:41] <abaddon> Wug: you could also try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:41] <wilee-nilee> emin_, To be safe I would use a live cd to back up what you need in home and just do a fresh install.
[01:42] <abaddon> wilee-nilee: that'll check to see if all pkgs are configured and running
[01:42] <Wug> abaddon: dpkg --configure -a does nothing whatsoever
[01:42] <Fudus> Are the Smart Scopes overloaded? they were working pre-release and now they don't
[01:42] <emin_> wilee-nilee: how do I do it from this error prompt area?
[01:42] <wilee-nilee> abaddon, wromg nick lol
[01:42] <Fudus> no references or definitions appear :(
[01:43] <Fudus> oh they work now, nm!
[01:43] <basichash> I'm having issues with my graphics card (7750 HD, and AMD 8xxx).  How can I get this working?
[01:43] <abaddon> wilee-nilee: Shiz bits, I don't recall it
[01:43] <emin_> wilee-nilee: all I see is a black page with an error message and a prompt
[01:44] <wilee-nilee> emin_, You don't boot a live cd/usb back up the home stuff you want and then delete the OS and do a fresh install. That is what may be quickest anyway
[01:44] <abaddon> Wug: Uno momento por favor
[01:44] <pwu> ubuntu 13.10 is orsome
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> emin_, Hard to say what went wrong, theoretically any OS can be fixed if you have the time and skills, however the time is a factor as well.
[01:45] <emin_> wilee-nilee: what do you mean with "you don;t boot  a live usb"?
[01:45] <puff> I have a thinkpad t520 with intel wireless.  Ever since I installed 13.04 the wireless routinely dies every 30-40 minutes. If I enable/disable wireless I get it back.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6260992/
[01:45] <emin_> wilee-nilee: I agree, I just want to save my data and reinstall, how do I access the data from the broken display I see now
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> emin_, we boot usb's with the live iso on them all the time. I have the feeling you do not understand my instructions,
[01:46] <pfifo> javanic: unfortunatly my run in with this resolved itself on 10.10, havent seen it since. Dont have a fix, you can try lubuntu or xubuntu, you might have better luck running without unity
[01:46] <pfifo> javanic: or upgrade
[01:46] <abaddon> wilee-nilee: Ohh, I see, command was right I just sent a msg to the wrong person. XD
[01:46] <esde> this was my fstab http://pastebin.com/8SZ0KwFS, and this happened http://i.imgur.com/3YLq7xG.png :/
[01:46] <abaddon> Wug: hmmm, nothing at all?
[01:46] <wilee-nilee> emin_, you don't use a broken prompt use the live environment to access that data
[01:46] <Wug> abaddon: zero output
[01:47] <javanic> pfifo,  this was the recommended distro to use.. if i was to upgrade would i not run into more issues? I don't want to run lubuntu to be honest
[01:47] <Fudus> upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 beta worked well for me
[01:47] <emin_> wilee-nilee: I am a linux noob, sorry for being slow
[01:47] <Wug> hold on, let me restart.  I've added/removed packages
[01:47] <pfifo> javanic: recommended by whom?
[01:47] <javanic> pfifo, the ubuntu site
[01:47] <emin_> wilee-nilee: so I am putting a 13.10 installation iso on a usb, I will restart
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> emin_, No biggie, my concern is you understanding first is all.
[01:47] <abaddon> OK, Try sudo apt-get update THEN sudo apt-get clean THEN sudo apt-get autoremove THEN sudo dpkg --configure -a THEN sudo apt-get install -f
[01:48] <emin_> wilee-nilee: then how do I access the old data?
[01:48] <wilee-nilee> emin_, Boot the usb go to home and the partition will be in the left column.
[01:48] <pfifo> javanic: Im only suggesting using a different DE, not a different distro
[01:49] <emin_> wilee-nilee:
[01:49] <emin_> wilee-nilee:  great I will do that
[01:49] <javanic> pfifo, what is the easiest way to update? i have always just installed the latest.. this one i had to download specifically
[01:49] <emin_> wilee-nilee: thank you, I love what you guys are doing to help people like me loving the open source
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> emin_, cool, you might want to start doing backups is all, and maybe make a separate home so you can upgrade and save the data.
[01:50] <emin_> wilee-nilee: how do I do a separate home?
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> !seperate home
[01:50] <pfifo> javanic: try 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop lubuntu-desktop' it will install both xubuntu and lubuntu, then log out, from the log in screen, you can then select your choice of l/x/u/buntu
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> emin_, I don't do that myself, so I would refer to those that do is all.
[01:51] <emin_> wilee-nilee: cool, thanks mate
[01:51] <javanic> pfifo,  so i can boot to the distro i have now, or the others??
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> emin_, No problem, someone can help you here with that issue id needed.
[01:51] <xtalmath> Hi, I can see gnuradio package at http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gnuradio as available for lucid, however synaptic does not find it (universe and multiverse are enabled)
[01:51] <abaddon> Wug: Keep in mind that the THEN parts are not in the commands,lol. I'm listing the commands.
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> if*
[01:52] <roberto> hi....has somebody test kubuntu 13.10 or upgraded the old one?
[01:52] <Wug> abaddon: I unborked packages earlier already, I've gone through most of that and it doesn't appear to be a "broken package" problem
[01:53] <pfifo> javanic: no, your not understanding what a distro is... youll be running the distro 'Ubuntu' and youll have the option to use the Desktop Enviroment LXDE, XFCE or Unity.
[01:53] <Wug> it seems more likely to be a "something important is missing" problem
[01:53] <Wug> but I'll try that stuff anyway
[01:53] <wilee-nilee> scorpion19, State an issue don;t poll the channel.
[01:53] <vastkahuna> Is there a weather app built into Ubuntu 13.10?
[01:53] <scorpion19> sorry
[01:54] <abaddon> Wug: Wellp....I'm sorry but I don't know what is causing it. =/ You could try a diffrent Desktop enviro?
[01:54] <javanic> pfifo, will i be able to boot into what i have now is what i mean. LXDE, XFCE and Unity i don't understand....
[01:54] <wilee-nilee> vastkahuna, The weather app is a bit funky, it probably needs a correct url if it is to work at all.
[01:54] <wilee-nilee> It has been problematic
[01:55] <pfifo> javanic: yes youll have Unity (what you have now) but youll also, at your discretion, be able to change from unity to lxde or xfce... and back again
[01:55] <Wug> abaddon: it also locks up when I try to login to the new account for the first time.
[01:55] <vastkahuna> Is there a good one you can recommend?
[01:55] <scorpion19> kde is a more complete DE than unity or gnome?
[01:55] <javanic> pfifo,  ok cool... I'll try that! thanks so much for the help :)
[01:55] <wilee-nilee> vastkahuna, I use the shell, so I use an extension, nice conkies.
[01:55] <abaddon> Wug: Use terminal for now. Just press alt+ctrl+f2 to get out of gui
[01:56] <Wug> it's hard to check the functionality of the desktop from the terminal :S
[01:56] <wilee-nilee> vastkahuna, be sure to use nicks here, you can tab complete them.
[01:56] <abaddon> Wug: log in and work from there
[01:56] <puff> vastkahuna: xubuntu is xfce plus a selection of GUI apps intended to be lightweight/fast.  The UI is very much pre-unity, which for some (me :-) is a plus.
[01:56] <Wug> the package fixing stuff produces no output except the expected listing of sources from apt-get update
[01:56] <puff> vastkahuna: You can get xubuntu simply by doing "sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop"
[01:56] <abaddon> Wug: XD Yes, true, but it wont crash on you at least
[01:56] <vastkahuna> OK thanks
[01:57] <scorpion19> i like the kde apps that come with the enviroment
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> puff, advising someone to install a whole beta package (dektop) is at best a foolish move for a weather app, ask them what they need.
[01:57] <puff> vastkahuna: Sorry, got confused there, thought you were asking for desktop manager recommendations.
[01:57] <abaddon> Wug: What did you type to reinstall unity?
[01:57] <Wug> I looked in the home folder, which it did create, and it's made a few files, but nothing particularly special.  the only non-hidden file is examples.desktop
[01:57] <saiarcot895> I'm getting an error saying "Unable to calculate the changes" when running update-manager to upgrade from Raring to Saucy. Do I need to manually remove and purge PPAs before upgrading?
[01:58] <Wug> I ran something along the lines of apt-get install --reinstall unity-* yesterday
[01:58] <pfifo> Wug: sounds like you want to add '-v' to your commands, heck with apt and dpkg you might want something like '-vvvvvvvv'
[01:58] <wilee-nilee> sorry meta*
[01:58] <Wug> hahaha ok
[01:58] <vastkahuna> Just looking for a good easy to install and use weather app for Ubuntu 13.10
[01:59] <Wug> dpkg does not accept a verbose option
[01:59] <Wug> :|
[01:59] <abaddon> Wug: sudo apt-get remove --purge unity
[02:00] <javanic> ok all i'm off.. thank you all for your help!
[02:00] <abaddon> Wug: then type sudo apt-get autoremove
[02:00] <abaddon> Wug: then type sudo apt-get install unity*
[02:01] <Wug> gets rid of libunity-2d-private, unity, unity-2d, unity-2d-common, unity-2d-panel, unity-2d-shell, unity-2d-spread, libunity-misc4, and telepathy-indicator
[02:01] <tengelic> hello! what is the practice for setting file owner uids on removable drives shared between systems?
[02:01] <abaddon> Wug: Actually, you may want this --> sudo apt-get remove --purge unity*
[02:01] <abaddon> Wug: yup, good
[02:02] <pfifo> Wug: heh, I guess Ive never tried to get verbose output from dpkg before, you learn something new everyday http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=62633
[02:02] <abaddon> Wug: then type sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get install unity*
[02:02] <Wug> what the hell apt
[02:02] <abaddon> Wug: ???
[02:03] <Wug> Note, selecting 'fp-units-gtk2' for regex 'unity*'
[02:03] <Wug> there are a bunch of other things that don't actually match that thing that isn't really a regex
[02:03] <Wug> unless I'm an idiot.
[02:03]  * Wug hurrrrrrrrr
[02:04] <pfifo> fp-units-gtk2 a dependacy of something that is a regex of unity*
[02:04] <esde> any ideas?
[02:04] <abaddon> Wug, Huh...yopu may be missing libunity-core*
[02:04] <Wug> abaddon: protip apt-get wants a regex
[02:04] <Wug> unity* matches unit, unity, unityyyyyyy, etc
[02:05] <Wug> I did not realize this either so i forgive you :D
[02:05] <abaddon> Wug: yeeaahhh....ok...I say f*** unity and go with Gnome3
[02:05] <pfifo> esde: what is your issue
[02:06] <pfifo> f*** matches everything that f* would match
[02:06] <pfifo> ohh, n/m
[02:06] <esde> this was my fstab http://pastebin.com/8SZ0KwFS, and this happened http://i.imgur.com/3YLq7xG.png :/
[02:06] <Wug> poor naive pfifo
[02:06] <pack^> I tried the new 13.10 gnome ubuntu today. Not bad.
[02:06] <abaddon> Wug: you know what...I dunt know what regex is....
[02:07] <abaddon> esde: Ok, then remove the entry?
[02:07] <esde> ah.
[02:07] <esde> its been a very long day
[02:08] <pfifo> esde: I dont know the right options for a cifs share, but I do know you need to adjust your options to allow users to unmount
[02:08] <fishcooker> i want to make script that will remove the folder after boot?
[02:09] <abaddon> esde: try instead of blah  usr, root blah     blah user 0 0
[02:09] <esde> i've got it mounted where i want now, but its telling me root is the owne
[02:09] <esde> *owner
[02:09] <abaddon> esde: XD
[02:09] <slimjimflim> hi when i start vidalia i get the following error:  Launching Tor Browser Bundle for Linux in /home/<username>/tor/tor-browser_en-US
[02:09] <slimjimflim> Qt: Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[02:09] <slimjimflim> anyone know how to fix it?
[02:09] <abaddon> It's ok bud, we all have 'em
[02:09] <msx> fishcooker create a ln upstart job instead
[02:09] <esde> so uid should be what?
[02:09] <msx> *an
[02:09] <fishcooker> where is the upstart ?
[02:09] <fishcooker> msx:
[02:10] <votick> wow
[02:10] <esde> i wouldnt get rid of the username and password, right? otherwise how would it authenticate?
[02:10] <msx> upstart is the subsystem ubuntu uses to launch daemons/services at boot time
[02:10] <abaddon> eSeNek: UID is for automation of mounting by the system just keep it as /dev/sdb2 /media/blah auto user 0 0
[02:11] <fishcooker> i want to delete this folder by the end of this month
[02:11] <zeep> is ubuntu ever going to adopt systemd?
[02:11] <msx> ut's the replacement for old sysvinit
[02:11] <abaddon> esde: : UID is for automation of mounting by the system just keep it as /dev/sdb2 /media/blah auto user 0 0
[02:11] <msx> zeep I doubt it although that would make real sense
[02:12] <abaddon> esde: Remove the part of the entry where it says root
[02:12] <abaddon> esde: Also, I'm not sure what you mean by keeping the paasswd?
[02:12] <pfifo> esde: wait, according to this fstab, you have 2 different devices being mounted on /media/goflex_home one is a CIFS share wich is likely working as expected, the other is the partition /dev/sdb2 which is not working as expected
[02:12] <zeep> msx, yeah i think so as well
[02:12] <esde> ok, right now the root of my system drive is showing up in the goflex_home share
[02:13] <abaddon> Wug: Then sdb2 isn't your drive for go flex
[02:13] <pfifo> esde: what do you want on goflex_home
[02:13] <esde> pfifo, /media/goflex_home was mounted properly, but was read only. root was owner and i couldnt create directories or modify anything
[02:14] <esde> once i added the last line, the root of my system drive showed up in goflex_home
[02:14] <pfifo> esde: /media/goflex_home is the MOUNTPOINT, the mount is either /dev/sdb2 or the cifs share...
[02:14] <esde> i want \\192.168.1.123\goflex_home\(all shares preferably, or just GoFlex Home Personal)\ mounted and writable
[02:15] <pfifo> esde: delete this line from your fstab '/dev/sdb2 /media/goflex_home auto user,root 0 0'
[02:15] <esde> ok
[02:15] <pfifo> esde: then reboot and give us updated details
[02:15] <esde> k, brb
[02:16] <wlightning> Did setting up vhosts in 13.10 change from 13.04?
[02:16] <wlightning> apache vhosts  that is
[02:17] <wlightning> oh heh
[02:17] <wlightning> as soon as I asked.. I finally figured it out
[02:17] <abaddon> esde: pfifo he said it wasn't read write when he just has the other entry?
[02:17] <wlightning> and the answer is yes
[02:17] <esde> back
[02:17] <ceegee> #ubuntu
[02:18] <pfifo> abaddon: well, mountint  partition overtop of it is not going to help anything
[02:18] <KSK_Sandi> i happy
[02:18] <esde> ./media/goflex_home exists but is empty
[02:18] <abaddon> esde: pfifo the entry you asked him to rm was what I suggested. Should he have deleted the other entry where it was cifs?
[02:19] <abaddon> pfifo: esde Ahhh...my mistake then. XD Sorry eSeNek
[02:19] <abaddon> pfifo: esde Ahhh...my mistake then. XD Sorry esde
[02:19] <pfifo> abaddon: no, the cifs is the one he wants...
[02:19] <esde> no problemo, im learning
[02:20] <abaddon> pfifo: but cifs wasn't giving him read write?
[02:20] <esde> it's not, and im not seeing the drive mounted right now
[02:20] <pfifo> abaddon: ok well, one issue at a time here, cant skip to step 99
[02:20] <FoxyRK9> hello
[02:21] <pfifo> esde: when you booted did it give any error messages? lets just pastebin the output of 'dmesg' ok
[02:23] <FoxyRK9> I run Ubuntu 12.04.3  on a Lenovo Ideapad S10 and Im running into some wifi issues
[02:23] <abaddon> pfifo: esde If he rm's the cifs and adds the entry you told him to rm it should mount with user having read write permissions
[02:23] <pfifo> abaddon: he says he wants the >cifs< mounted... not the /dev/sdb2
[02:23] <abaddon> pfifo: esde XD I was using sdb2 as an example
[02:23] <FoxyRK9> I disconnect ocassionally, after boot up from sleep mode, but sometimes cuts out during skype. When I ran 12.04.2 I had no wifi issues till the upgrades.
[02:23] <esde> i tried to copy what was relevant http://pastebin.com/LC6nNmPp
[02:23] <abaddon> esde: I didn't give clear enough instructions,lol
[02:24] <FoxyRK9> is there a bug with wifi or is it just me?
[02:24] <Kuroshita> I installed ubuntu over an xubuntu install, used the old home partition (didn't format it) and now at start up it takes 2-5 minutes for my keyboard and mouse to become functional. How can I fix this?
[02:25] <pfifo> esde: try changing your goflex line in fstab to this '//192.168.1.123/GoFlex\040Home\040Personal /media/goflex_home cifs username=admin,password=passwd,uid=1000,gid=1000,iocharset=utf8 0 0'
[02:26] <aFeijo> did you guys updated to 13.10 yet?
[02:26] <pfifo> esde: then of course youjll need to reboot to test it
[02:26] <FoxyRK9> If someone with an answer to my question can Private message me, that would be nice.
[02:26] <esde> pfifo, so im changing the uid to reflect the rot user?
[02:27] <abaddon> Wug: Any luck?
[02:28] <pfifo> esde: no, 1000 should be your user ID unless you have mutiple logins or a shared computer, type 'id' at a command prompty if you are unsure, and adjust 1000 to your uid/gid
[02:28] <pfifo> esde: root ALWAYS has a uid of 0 and group id of 0
[02:29] <puff> I just noticed that on my laptop screen there's a 3/4" black space on the left and right edges of the screen.
[02:29] <puff> This is not the case on my external monitor.
[02:29] <esde> Thank you!!! It works and i've learned something new and useful :)
[02:29] <abaddon> Hey guys, ok, I just started using lfm (it's a terminal file manager). My problem is it wont always recognize the file I click on apropriatly. I try opening an mkv file and half the videos in a directory are playable while the other half aren't.
[02:29] <puff> Any idea how I adjust this?
[02:29] <pfifo> heh, 'prompty' i like it, im renaming my python ncurses class to prompty tommorrow... that will be so cute
[02:32] <puff> Hm, okay, Settings/Display had the laptop at 1680 x 1050 and the external at 1920 x 1080.  Set the laptop screen to 1920 x 1080  and that fixed it.
[02:33]  * FoxyRK9 sighs
[02:35] <FoxyRK9> Update is avaialable
[02:35] <FoxyRK9> Its for linux Kernal firmware
[02:35] <halogenandtoast> Does anyone know how I'd debug this? initctl: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.12" (uid=107 pid=3878 comm="initctl restart scrapboard ") interface="com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.Job" member="Restart" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="com.ubuntu.Upstart" (uid=0 pid=1 comm="/sbin/init")
[02:35] <FoxyRK9> will this fix my wifi issue?
[02:35] <halogenandtoast> Not a lot of good google hits.
[02:35] <pfifo> FoxyRK9: i dont know... but I do recommend keeping your system up to date
[02:36] <Gerowen> Greetings ye Ubuntu gurus, I have a question.  I just installed Ubuntu (13.10) on a computer with 2 video cards, one built-in, and one after market installed.  Ubuntu sees the secondary video card and allowed me to install the drivers for it using the "Additional Drivers" tool, however it does not actually "use" that video card, the video signal is sent through the on-board card.  There doesn't appear to be a xorg.conf file for
[02:36] <Gerowen> me to edit, so what would be the easiest way to get it to use the secondary card instead of the on-board one?
[02:37] <FoxyRK9|2> Hello
[02:37] <pfifo> Gerowen: on nvidia, there was a nvidia-settings program that allowed you to setup and write an xorg.conf not sure if its still supported
[02:37] <wylde> Gerowen, disable the onboard in the bios?
[02:37] <blackshirt> !tell phpmyadmin
[02:38] <pfifo> halogenandtoast: whats the issue?
[02:38] <blackshirt> !info phpmyadmin
[02:38] <FoxyRK9|2> I run I run Ubuntu 12.04.3 on a Lenovo Ideapad S10 Netbook. My Wifi seems to disconect lately at random. Is there a bug in this update?
[02:38] <halogenandtoast> pfifo: Seems like it's not restarting the service it's supposed to be
[02:38] <Gerowen> wyld: Poked around in there for a little while but couldn't find an option like that, I'll check again though.
[02:38] <pfifo> halogenandtoast: what did you do to produce that error?
[02:39] <halogenandtoast> initctl restart scrapboard
[02:39] <wylde> Gerowen, there may be an option to set "the primary video output" not necesarily to disable the internal.
[02:40] <pfifo> halogenandtoast: I think your supposed to use 'service restart scrapboard' not use initctl directly
[02:40]  * FoxyRK9 sighs
[02:40] <XHEART24> i can not find a good youtube to mp3 converter
[02:40] <halogenandtoast> restart: unrecognized service
[02:40] <FoxyRK9> www.vidtomp3.net
[02:40] <halogenandtoast> pfifo: ^^
[02:41] <pfifo> XHEART24: that is not supported here and aginst youtube TOS
[02:41] <XHEART24> ok
[02:41] <FoxyRK9> I advise not Downlading youtube videos
[02:41] <FoxyRK9> shotty quality at best
[02:41] <pfifo> halogenandtoast: sorry got it backwards, 'service scrapboard restart'
[02:41] <numberto> Hi guys, just upgraded to 13.10 and have some video card issues. My screen resolution should be 1366x178 but the max now is 1024x768. I am on my laptop with nvidia gt 520 M card
[02:42] <halogenandtoast> scrapboard: unrecognized service
[02:42] <halogenandtoast> the files for scrapboard are in ~/.init
[02:42] <Guest78214> kali
[02:42] <pfifo> halogenandtoast: where did you get the idea to use initctl directly?
[02:42] <halogenandtoast> http://sj26.com/2012/10/02/paas-ish-ubuntu
[02:42] <FoxyRK9> May I recieve some assisstance?
[02:43] <Gerowen> wyld: pfifo: Thanks for the help, reset the BIOS settings to default and it picked it up, :-)
[02:43] <wylde> Gerowen, good stuff :)
[02:44] <XHEART24> seems like 13.10 has issues
[02:44] <pfifo> halogenandtoast: you patched upstart?
[02:44] <halogenandtoast> seems so
[02:44] <pfifo> halogenandtoast: you patched dbus? sorry
[02:44] <FoxyRK9> is there another Ubuntu IRC channel?
[02:44] <halogenandtoast> pfifo: I ran the command under Patching dbus to allow upstart user sessions
[02:45] <mojtaba> Hi, I have upgraded to 13.10, but now the copy is not working. (it is something like dropbox) Did someone else have the same issue? Do you know what should I do?
[02:45] <wylde> FoxyRK9, /msg alis list *ubuntu*
[02:45] <pfifo> halogenandtoast: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[02:45] <halogenandtoast> pfifo: 12.04
[02:45] <Crazyzurfer> Hi, i'm trying to update to 13.10 from 13.04 and got this error :S --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6261209/
[02:46] <pfifo> halogenandtoast: did the patch take?
[02:46] <halogenandtoast> nope?
[02:47] <wylde> Crazyzurfer, disable third party ppa's and try again would be my first step
[02:47] <inx-live> hellloooou
[02:47] <halogenandtoast> oh I think it did
[02:47] <pfifo> halogenandtoast: You have no idea what you did, do you? I would start your debugging efforts with a fresh install, and go through the tutorial but this time understand everything your doing before you do it
[02:48] <halogenandtoast> I misread what you said. I thought you asked if I patched "take"
[02:48] <halogenandtoast> I had no idea what take was.
[02:48] <inx-live> im on a text based linux
[02:48] <inx-live> in a 486 pc
[02:48] <inx-live> cooooool
[02:48] <awakecoding> inx-live: congrats?
[02:49] <halogenandtoast> I'm double checking that the patch took, it did not complain when I initially ran it.
[02:49] <wylde> Crazyzurfer, although if you have some custom software that you installed from source, I imagine that could create some unresolvable dependencies too.
[02:49] <pfifo> halogenandtoast: do you have working upstart user sessions?
[02:50] <Crazyzurfer> wylde: don't understand what do you mean by installed from source, you mean just downloading a .deb?
[02:50] <Crazyzurfer> and installing it?
[02:51] <wylde> Crazyzurfer, I  suppose that could do it. I'm sure it could if it was a .deb for another distro.
[02:51] <mojtaba> Does anybody have problem with copy in ubuntu 13.10? (copy.com)
[02:52] <dr_willis> mojtaba:  it works here i recall
[02:52] <mojtaba> dr_willis: How can I uninstall it? and then install it?
[02:53] <mojtaba> dr_willis: It was working before upgrading; but now it is not working.
[02:53] <tinman_> anyone know of a good network monitor in the repos? (whole network, not just this host)
[02:53] <Crazyzurfer> wylde: which are my options then?
[02:53] <dr_willis> i just installed it at home the other day. i recall it wirked fine.  not at home to check it.
[02:54] <pfifo> halogenandtoast: Id like to say I can help you, but this is way outside of my knowledge, im lamp type, nginx rails, and postgres arent something im prepared to handle
[02:54] <dr_willis> been testing out other cloud storage also. spideroak and wuala
[02:55] <pfifo> hi  dr_willis
[02:55] <halogenandtoast> pfifo: np, I had a pet emergency, but I understand very little about what upstart does, so I don't know how to check if it's setup correctly
[02:55] <dr_willis> moo pfifo
[02:55] <halogenandtoast> aside from running that task
[02:55] <halogenandtoast> which is failing
[02:55] <michaelwang32> witch ubuntu distro is good for a 4gb pc
[02:55] <michaelwang32> witch has intel g41 chipset
[02:55] <wylde> Crazyzurfer, I don't know.  I'm guessing you didn't install anything from source, based on your comment earlier.  I'd start by disabling any third party ppa's, then run 'sudo apt-get update' and try the upgrade again.
[02:55] <mojtaba> dr_willis: I do not know why it is not working here after upgrading to 13.10!!!
[02:55] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[02:56] <Crazyzurfer> wylde: just did that and didn't work
[02:56] <michaelwang32>  witch ubuntu distro is good for a 4gb pc
[02:56] <kali_eskrima> hi ActionParsnip can you help me with something
[02:56] <mojtaba> Does anybody know how can I get rid of KDE accessible?
[02:56] <Crazyzurfer> wylde: I'll try tomorrow again, cause It's late here and I've got an exam at university tomorrow :S
[02:56] <Crazyzurfer> Bye
[02:56] <wylde> Crazyzurfer, alrighty
[02:56] <lotuspsychje> michaelwang32: ubuntu 13.04 will do fine
[02:56] <michaelwang32> ok
[02:56] <michaelwang32> bye
[02:57] <zeep> kde framework 5 is going to be ore modular, can't wait!
[02:57] <kali_eskrima> hi can anyone help me with the installatio of 12.10. my OS is currently 12.04'
[02:57] <tinman_> help with what exactly?
[02:57] <lotuspsychje> kali_eskrima: best is to shoot your issue
[02:57] <kali_eskrima> ok thanks
[02:57] <FoxyRK9> I would stick with 12.04
[02:57] <FoxyRK9> Long term support and bug fixes
[02:58] <FoxyRK9> Can I get some help with my wifi issue?
[02:58] <halogenandtoast> pfifo: ftr "start scrapboard" seems to be the non initctl method
[02:58] <lotuspsychje> !details | FoxyRK9
[02:58] <tinman_> help with what exactly?
[02:58] <lotuspsychje> tinman_: :p
[02:58] <FoxyRK9> I run Ubuntu 12.04.3 on a Lenovo Ideapad S10 Netbook. My Wifi seems to disconect lately at random. Is there a bug in this update?
[02:58] <ssj5goku> i have installed ubuntu with windows 7 as a dual boot....now i want to install windows 8 so that i can have three boots ....is it possible???and if i do so...is there any chance that i will have any sort of data loss??
[02:58] <kali_eskrima> FoxyRK9 no thank you, tried retried.....thing is not working as i wish for. so im going to 12.10 because i bought a original cd from canonical of 12.10 is not working, is not booting. so i was forced to download 12.04 which is not working right.
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> FoxyRK9: wifi chipset?
[02:59] <FoxyRK9> Broadcom b43
[02:59] <tinman_> ssj5goku,  you can
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> !b43 | FoxyRK9
[02:59] <FoxyRK9> I have tried that
[02:59] <FoxyRK9> no luck
[03:00] <lotuspsychje> ssj5goku: we reccomend you to install ubuntu on your whole hd, and loose windows once and for good
[03:00] <mojtaba> I just exit KDE accessible, but it just starts!!!
[03:00] <sam113101> did the font change from ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10?
[03:00] <tinman_> his problem is with intermittant connection, not installation
[03:00] <FoxyRK9> Yes it worked before yesterday flawessly on 12.04.2
[03:00] <ssj5goku> triman, but they say that when i install windows after ubuntu it deletes its boot or something like that .... wont i have any problem doing that???
[03:00] <FoxyRK9> now this .3 update, it randonly drops
[03:01] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | ssj5goku
[03:01] <kali_eskrima> ok so i just downloaded 12.10 version, and i burned the bootable dvd. now when i restart the laptop (asus x75a) it will not boot from the cd. i have disabled secure boot. and legacy mode as well. i also set priority boot on my 12.10 cd (which in bios is not shown anymore cd-rom/dvd, but just a bunch of words and numnbers) i know is my ubuntu dvd because its showing me 2x same name in boot option1 and 2
[03:01] <wylde> ssj5goku, you'll have to re-install grub2 afterwards yes.
[03:01] <dr_willis> !fixgrub | ssj5goku
[03:01] <tinman_> ssj5goku,  yes every time you install a new OS, it write a new boot record, destroying the current boot record. you fix this by booting using a live USB and running boot-repair
[03:01] <kali_eskrima> so anyone knows how to do, or what button to press to bring me to the installation window (when i reboot the laptop) it should appear
[03:02] <FoxyRK9> There is an update for Linux Kernal Drivers
[03:02] <kali_eskrima> please dont direct me to some forum becuase i have seen it almost all
[03:02] <FoxyRK9> will this fix my wifi issues?
[03:02] <kali_eskrima> none works\
[03:02] <kali_eskrima> oh and fyi i have uefi bios
[03:02] <lotuspsychje> kali_eskrima: set bios to boot your cdrom?
[03:02] <pfifo> halogenandtoast: things are a bit funky with this dbus patch, im kind of in the dark... If you want, you can ask this question on launchpad and assign me (https://launchpad.net/~pfifo-fast) to it, Ill look into it when im more awake... file the qustion under upstart package
[03:02] <halogenandtoast> Seems like I'm not acting as root, so I don't have permission
[03:02] <kali_eskrima> lotuspsychje doesnt work.. i set it. its not booting from dvd (this is the 6th dvd i used and wasted)
[03:03] <kali_eskrima> lotuspsychje it just brings me to the desktop again. i dont see the black window with theinstallation options
[03:03] <lotuspsychje> kali_eskrima: dont you have a device boot option like F9, so you can choose cdrom manually?
[03:03] <tinman_> kali_eskrima,  you mentioned the BIOS has a weird output for the optical drive. is it possible that the drive is failing?
[03:03] <halogenandtoast> I'll create a bug if I don't solve it tonight
[03:03] <kali_eskrima> hmm let me try f9
[03:03] <kali_eskrima> i tried almost all buttons
[03:04] <ssj5goku> triman, so if install now with the windows 8 boot cd then afterwards i hv to use ubuntu or windows live usb???
[03:04] <lotuspsychje> kali_eskrima: it depends on your machine f9 was example
[03:04] <kali_eskrima> and i dont see the cd romm. only
[03:04] <kali_eskrima> asus x75a
[03:04] <natsu> Hello
[03:04] <pfifo> halogenandtoast: start with a question, then upgrade to a bug if it really is.
[03:04] <kali_eskrima> my bios is uefi/... there is no options such as cd rom
[03:04] <lotuspsychje> kali_eskrima: external dvdrom?
[03:04] <tinman_> you use a live Ubuntu USB ssj5goku
[03:04] <kali_eskrima> no
[03:04] <FoxyRK9> hm...
[03:04] <lotuspsychje> kali_eskrima: how did you burn ubuntu image?
[03:04] <FoxyRK9> What are Linux Kernel Drivers?
[03:05] <tinman_> kali_eskrima,  you mentioned the BIOS has a weird output for the optical drive. is it possible that the drive is failing?
[03:05] <Dr_Willis_> ssj5goku:  id get that boot-repair live cd thats mentioned at the boot-repair web site. befor messing with too much. Its handy to have for a backup disk anyway
[03:05] <kali_eskrima> tinman how do u mean failing?
[03:05] <FoxyRK9> I went to check for updates and that's what popped up
[03:05] <tinman_> FoxyRK9,  drivers that are loaded at kernal level (before you log in)
[03:05] <kali_eskrima> tinman what is failing exacly? sorry im new and a bit lost here
[03:05] <lotuspsychje> kali_eskrima: broken
[03:05] <FoxyRK9> Will it fix my wifi issues?
[03:06] <Dr_Willis_> FoxyRK9:  depends on the drivers and if theres been updated. and the exact issue
[03:06] <FoxyRK9> I just randomly drop
[03:06] <numberto> Does anybody know how to solve screen resolution problem (it is too small) - nvidia gt 520
[03:06] <lotuspsychje> FoxyRK9: wich wifi security are you using?
[03:06] <FoxyRK9> usually 4 times a day I will drop connection
[03:06] <tinman_> numberto,  use the nvidia control panel or AR&R
[03:06] <FoxyRK9> umm...
[03:06] <FoxyRK9> we have no security
[03:06] <lotuspsychje> FoxyRK9: wep? wpa?
[03:06] <Dr_Willis_> FoxyRK9:  ive sene people in here with  onnections dropping 4 times  a min. :) or more.
[03:07] <numberto> tinman_: I am using bumblebee, I got the problem after the upgrade to 13.10
[03:07] <DJ_Unibob> I did that earlier, but that was a gateway issue. :/
[03:07] <Dr_Willis_> FoxyRK9:  normally you want to keep th esystem up to date with all updtes
[03:07] <tinman_> numberto,  use the nvidia control panel or AR&R
[03:07] <kali_eskrima> ok what i see in my uefi bios under boot option/settings is" boot #1 and that is my current 12.04 (but is written in multiple numbers and letters)), and boot #2 is the same. if i take out the dvd with ubuntu 12.10 than i can only see boot #1 otpion; the boot #2 is not shown
[03:07] <ssj5goku> tinman, ok thanks ....but i was going through this website https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub and it says that i have to install and then run boot repair....does this mean that i have to install ubuntu again...and if doing so wont my data get deleted???
[03:07] <FoxyRK9> I do
[03:07] <FoxyRK9> I check for updates evryday
[03:07] <lotuspsychje> kali_eskrima: can you make an usb stick with ubuntu?
[03:07] <kostkon> FoxyRK9, here's what the update does https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/1239414/comments/9
[03:08] <lotuspsychje> FoxyRK9: might be usefull to pastebin output of wifi from /var/log/syslog.1
[03:08] <tinman_> ssj5goku,  maybe this is too advanced for you.    no you boot the Ubuntu USB, install a program called boot-repair, then run that program (boot-repair) and then shut down the computer, rtemove the USB and your done.
[03:08] <FoxyRK9> How do I get there?
[03:08] <kali_eskrima> lotuspsychje yes already did that, and i selected is as my booting priority (so only from that to boot) and it didnt work. it didnt wanted to start the installing mode (black screen with options)
[03:08] <codefisher> Hi folks!
[03:08] <codefisher> anybody up for a bug in here !?
[03:09] <kali_eskrima> i will try again to do the usb stick. just in case\ lotuspsychje
[03:09] <Dr_Willis_> ssj5goku: boot-repair is just a tool you install
[03:09] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | codefisher
[03:09] <natsu> Hi was wandering if there is a good program that I could use to program in Ubuntu.
[03:09] <ssj5goku> tinman, ok thanks...actually i am new to this unbuntu thing and frights the ghost out of me when i think about data loss....
[03:09] <Dr_Willis_> ssj5goku:  there are live cd's that include it allreadi. hopefully it will get included on the default cds in the next reelase
[03:09] <lotuspsychje> natsu: wich program?
[03:09] <pfifo> natsu: what language?
[03:10] <Dr_Willis_> !info scratch | natsu    ;) for beginners this is good
[03:10] <tinman_> yes can we PLEASE at least get boot repair added to the repo?
[03:10] <natsu> Well SOmething Multi Plat. I want to program in most languages like c++ JAva Python. I want it to be able to compile it for me
[03:10] <kali_eskrima> lotuspsychje can you also tell me when i insert the bootable dvd with ubuntu os on, what should i expect to see without touching no keyboard keys..? thanks
[03:10] <Dr_Willis_> tinman_:  theres unofficial isos out that include it.  (and thats like the only change)
[03:10] <wylde> I  wonder if it's in the packaging todo list
[03:11] <Dr_Willis_> tinman_:  they also have their own iso that works for 32 or 64bit systems. which is handy
[03:11] <pfifo> natsu: eclipse
[03:11] <Anonynimity> how do I fix the following error in ubuntu 12.04: W: Failed to fetch http://http.kali.org/kali/dists/kali/contrib/source/Sources.gz  Hash Sum mismatch :?
[03:11] <tinman_> not as handy as sudo apt-get install boot-repair
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> kali_eskrima: after booting dvd or usb correctly, you should see a purple ubuntu screen
[03:11] <Dr_Willis_> natsu:  so do you have any programing experience?
[03:11] <kali_eskrima> lotuspsychje and after that....?
[03:12] <lotuspsychje> kali_eskrima: white ubuntu lettres booting into setup/livecd screen
[03:12] <natsu> A little bit. Ive been learning C++ and Python
[03:12] <D7>  if I set an autologin user for lightdm; when I start the service will the user be logged in, or will the user only be logged in on
[03:12] <D7>             boot? if I set an autologin user for lightdm; when I start the service will the user be logged in, or will the user only be logged in on
[03:12] <kali_eskrima> lotuspsychje so you mean.. the laptop starts with the usb or dvd ...and it brings me to the purple screen? and what that means its already upgraded to my new version..?
[03:12] <lotuspsychje> kali_eskrima: you need to find the correct F key to choose boot devices
[03:12] <D7>             boot? if I set an autologin user for lightdm; when I start the service will the user be logged in, or will the user only be logged in on
[03:12] <FloodBot1> D7: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:12] <Guest27967> I have mastered in C mother of all language
[03:12] <tinman_> oh yeah back to my question. how can i monitor my whole network, not just an individual workstation locally?
[03:12] <natsu> But I was also wanting to learn Java
[03:12] <Mage> How can I fix this - http://i.imgur.com/AtGpsvk.png
[03:12] <Dr_Willis_> D7:  sudo service lightdm start -> the user will get logged in
[03:13] <lotuspsychje> kali_eskrima: no, you need to follow the setup from beginning
[03:13] <kali_eskrima> where can i find the right F key?
[03:13] <D7> sorry about sending the message three times
[03:13] <tinman_> the manual
[03:13] <tinman_> the website
[03:13] <Dr_Willis_> D7:  lightdm has a delay option for letting you cancle the auto login if you want
[03:13] <lotuspsychje> kali_eskrima: first go in bios, and find boot device options
[03:13] <D7> Dr_Willis_: thanks, thats what I wanted to know
[03:13] <lotuspsychje> kali_eskrima: set usb and dvdrom as first boot
[03:13] <FoxyRK9> lotuspsychje: http://pastebin.com/fHCeu2G6
[03:14] <sushil> how i can enable touch pad scrolling in ubuntu??
[03:14] <natsu> Id like to make a shout out to Titty Sprinkles
[03:14] <Dr_Willis_> sushil:  what release? its enabled by default for me on 13.10
[03:14] <kali_eskrima> lotuspsychje so what if the setup doesnt even appear but it just brings me to the  desktop. and another thing, once with the booting, i got to the black scrreen and it said broken pipes...
[03:14] <sushil> Its 13.10
[03:14] <kali_eskrima> lotuspsychje i did that..
[03:14] <kostkon> sushil, mouse settings
[03:15] <Mage> tinman_: was that answer in regards to me? :o
[03:15] <FoxyRK9> lotuspsychje: So what could be the problem
[03:15] <sushil> I enable two finger scrolling
[03:15] <sushil> still not working
[03:15] <Dr_Willis_> sushil:  could be the hardware dosent support it.. or you need to log out/back in
[03:16] <tinman_> Mage, nope, i didnt even see you there sorry
[03:16] <Mage> oh no it's cool
[03:16] <lotuspsychje> FoxyRK9: not sure yet but this looks like a prob: Oct 17 17:11:06 joe-Lenovo NetworkManager[797]: <info> Unmanaged Device found; state CONNECTED forced. (see http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889)
[03:17] <sushil> @Dr_Willis M using inspiron 15r and scrolling works perfectly in windows and fedora
[03:17] <tinman_> Mage,  theres not enough info in that pic to tell me anything usefull. my advise would be to create a 13.10 USB, boot the computer with that USB, delete everything but your /home folder and clean install 13.10 without formatting
[03:17] <Dr_Willis_> sushil:  it works for me on my eeepc also
[03:17] <lotuspsychje> FoxyRK9: did your wifi work fine on other ubuntu versions?
[03:17] <Mage> tinman_: funnily enough this is a clean, 100% fresh install of 13.04 -- i just put it up in a vm and have done nothing
[03:18] <FoxyRK9> yes on ubuntu 12.04.2
[03:18] <Mage> i guess ill just do the 13.10 iso and be done with it
[03:18] <lotuspsychje> FoxyRK9: so after update, it went dropping?
[03:18] <FoxyRK9> When it updated to 12.04.3 it acted funny
[03:18] <tinman_> Mage,  as a general rule of thumb, its never a good idea to upgrade
[03:18] <FoxyRK9> Yes
[03:18] <halogenandtoast> pfifo: I got it working
[03:18] <Mage> tinman_: that is unfortunate... is that the same to be said for ubuntu server?
[03:18] <lotuspsychje> FoxyRK9: then might be your b43 driver that have changed and acting weird maybe
[03:19] <pfifo> !yay | halogenandtoast
[03:19] <halogenandtoast> pfifo: I used this instead http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~upstart-devel/upstart/trunk/view/1301/dbus/Upstart.conf
[03:19] <FoxyRK9> is there a way to update/fix this driver?
[03:19] <lotuspsychje> FoxyRK9: did you check your additional drivers list?
[03:19] <kali_eskrima> lotuspsychje i did that is not booting to the installation window. i just dont understand why is giving me such a hard time. simple set usb/dvd , boot from it, install and thats it....but no..mine is just tripping. maybe coz i had originally windows 8 OS
[03:19] <tinman_> Mage,  that is true for every OS ever. always clean install. upgrade to new OS without fresh install at your own peril
[03:19] <pfifo> Mage: click 'continue' to send the error report
[03:19] <Mage> pfifo: i did :)
[03:19] <lotuspsychje> kali_eskrima: you sure you disabled uefi stuff?
[03:20] <Mage> tinman_: i suppose that works for non-production things ;)
[03:20] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | kali
[03:20] <FoxyRK9> lotuspsychje: is thre a way to update/fix this driver?
[03:20] <kali_eskrima> yes. secure boot, legacy, fast boot and csm lotuspsychje
[03:20] <lotuspsychje> FoxyRK9: scroll up
[03:20] <tinman_> Mage,  in a production environment, you would not attempt an upgrade without cloning out the system and testing it first
[03:21] <lotuspsychje> kali_eskrima: you need to play around a bit, till you find your booting devices
[03:21] <pfifo> Mage: upgrading is ok... just make sure to have a backup incase it fails, and when it fails, start planning a fresh install
[03:21] <Mage> mhm
[03:21] <kali_eskrima> ubuttu thank you :)
[03:21] <lotuspsychje> kali_eskrima: may i suggest you ask in the ##hardware channel
[03:21] <tinman_> ^
[03:22] <kali_eskrima> lotuspsychje thanks will do, because im already exhausted trying and trying and nothing works.........
[03:23] <lotuspsychje> FoxyRK9: and how sure are you, that without wpa security, your whole neigbourhood isnt browsing on your connection till it drops?
[03:23] <FoxyRK9> lotuspsychje: My wifi router is only up to 60 feet
[03:24] <FoxyRK9> my nearest "neighbor" is half a mile
[03:24] <FoxyRK9> I live in Northern NY in mostly wooded area
[03:24] <lotuspsychje> FoxyRK9: i would come wardriving in front of your door :p
[03:24] <pfifo> FoxyRK9: maybe your neighbor planted a laptop in your barn to download torrents remotely
[03:24] <lotuspsychje> pfifo: :p
[03:24] <Dr_Willis_> those cantanna's can get good range. ;)
[03:24] <FoxyRK9> what barn?
[03:25] <lotuspsychje> haha
[03:25] <FoxyRK9> so I checked additional drivers
[03:25] <lotuspsychje> FoxyRK9: nothing shows?
[03:25] <wylde> sounds like a pleasant wardrive >.>
[03:26] <FoxyRK9> just an STA driver
[03:26] <lotuspsychje> foxy sta broadcom?
[03:26] <FoxyRK9> yes
[03:26] <lotuspsychje> FoxyRK9: try it out, and see if it stables your connection
[03:26] <FoxyRK9> it in use
[03:27] <FoxyRK9> only driver here
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> FoxyRK9: well, not sure its ubuntu causing your drops mate
[03:27] <ssj5goku> i was wondering if i could change the default boot from ubuntu to windows in the GRUB ...is it possible??
[03:27] <xmetal> of course, ssj
[03:28] <FoxyRK9> what could it be?
[03:28] <ssj5goku> xmetal, how??
[03:28] <FoxyRK9> this never happened before my update
[03:29] <Dr_Willis_> but that idea of windows by default . is disgusting. ;)
[03:29] <lotuspsychje> Dr_Willis_: :p
[03:29] <FoxyRK9> id rather rip my eyes out than use windows
[03:29] <ssj5goku> come on ... i am used to it... and i am new to ubuntu....
[03:29] <lotuspsychje> FoxyRK9: maybe try a 13.04 livedvd and check if that stables your connection
[03:29] <tinman_> especially 8.1
[03:29] <pfifo> ssj5goku: edit the file /etc/default/grub change the value of 'default' to the value that it needs to boot windows
[03:30] <FoxyRK9> I have no DVD/CD slot
[03:30] <tinman_> ^
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> FoxyRK9: i would go messing with your drivers aswell, maybe try sta driver disabled, and reboot
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> FoxyRK9: test out a bit for yourself...we cant do it for you
[03:31] <FoxyRK9> so disable it, reboot then reenable it?
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> FoxyRK9: you could try and see
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> FoxyRK9: if not work, enable again
[03:31] <Anonynimity> could anyone tell me how to fix the following error in ubuntu precise?
[03:31] <Anonynimity> W: Failed to fetch http://http.kali.org/kali/dists/kali/contrib/source/Sources.gz  Hash Sum mismatch
[03:31] <xmetal> now since i dont use grub legecy (which i edited files by hand for), i use "Grub customizer" with grub 2.x
[03:32] <wylde> Anonynimity, don't use kali repos with precise.
[03:32] <Anonynimity> why?
[03:32] <Anonynimity> **why wylde?
[03:32] <ssj5goku> pfifo, from where should i edit them??
[03:33] <wylde> Anonynimity, for one, it's not even a derivative of ubuntu. You're going to severely break your system
[03:33] <benjgvps> Hello, I managed to get Xubuntu 13.10 installed in UEFI mode on my laptop. I then resized the partition and installed Windows 8, then ran boot-repair. I can now boot into Xubuntu again, though the option for Windows Boot Manager just makes the screen go black for a second before kicking me back to the grub menu. Is there anything  I could try?
[03:34] <Anonynimity> seems fine... just getting the pen-testing tools
[03:34] <OerHeks> Amoz, lols "seems fine" and you have an error
[03:34] <wylde> Anonynimity, just a heads up then...what you're doing is unsupported. Have fun.
[03:35] <Anonynimity> I will wylde
[03:35] <Anonynimity> I have a server that I test every so often
[03:35] <Ari-Yang> so while watching something my laptop overheated... booted up just fine but I can't seem to play videos properly anymore with my media player (mpv fork of mplayer2), even youtube videos don't play. Here's a log error from mpv http://paste.opensuse.org/68945603
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> Anonynimity: you can install pentesting tools manually
[03:35] <Ari-Yang> anybody got any idea on what the problem is?
[03:35] <Anonynimity> I had ubuntu 13.10 but my HDD space was low, so I had to re-install
[03:35] <sleepie^> Alright so I installed Gnome3, the frame rate is unacceptable, I am using no proprietary driver for graphics, and Synaptic cannot locate a proprietary one. I have an Asus S400CA.
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> Ari-Yang: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[03:36] <wylde> Anonynimity, then why not just boot the kali live and test?
[03:37] <ccbn> Hi, I noticed recently that holding the Windows key and pressing the left or right arrow keys switches between virtual consoles. This knocked out one of my XMonad shortcuts so I'd like to disable it but I'm not sure how to.
[03:37] <Anonynimity> idk...
[03:37] <Ari-Yang> lotuspsychje: no, and I never needed to ever
[03:37] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6261385/
[03:37] <fishcooker> how to set locale this
[03:37] <fishcooker> not work
[03:37] <fishcooker> well
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras | Ari-Yang
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> Ari-Yang: worth a try
[03:37] <Ari-Yang> lotuspsychje: no I don't think that's it... thanks for the suggestion
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> Ari-Yang: can you tell us more about your video you trying?
[03:39] <emin_> hello everybody, I would like to set u a live ubuntu on a usb. which format should I use (from a mac) for the usb stick?
[03:39] <Ari-Yang> lotuspsychje: well youtube videos in firefox don't work either
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> Ari-Yang: did you try playing in vlc?
[03:40] <ADP4U> no
[03:40] <Ari-Yang> lotuspsychje: no but I think that'll fail too
[03:40] <ADP4U> it will, you will fail
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> ADP4U: this is a support room
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> Ari-Yang: if vlc fails, could be driver issue
[03:42] <Ari-Yang> maybe...
[03:42] <ADP4U> maybe, maybe not, so many possibilities
[03:42] <sleepie^> Seriously, how do I obtain a proprietary driver for my onboard mobile GPU (perhaps on-dye with CPU, it's an i3) ?
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> !ops | ADP4U
[03:42] <pfifo> Can I install to a directory on a partition?
[03:42] <xmetal> eh?
[03:44] <Dr_Willis_> pfifo:  install what?
[03:44] <pfifo> ubuntu
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> Ari-Yang: i would go for the restricted extras and vlc, if not work dig into drivers
[03:44] <Dr_Willis_> you normally boot a cd. and install to the proper partions.
[03:44] <pfifo> Dr_Willis_: im not normal
[03:44] <SuperLag> I've got a NAS device that runs Linux with a very limited userland. I can SSH to it, but no scp is available to/from the device. On the device it has ftpput and ftpget. Is there some very minimal FTP server I can put on my Ubuntu install that will allow me to take an anonymous connection long enough to transfer the files and then shut it off?
[03:45] <dreamstudio> hi everybody
[03:45] <Dr_Willis_> pfifo:  i doubt if you are going to be doing it then.
[03:45] <dreamstudio> Someone could help me :
[03:45] <dreamstudio> ?
[03:45] <rexknx> what's the problem ?
[03:45] <xmetal> !details
[03:45] <dreamstudio> i have a notebook hp pavillion dv4
[03:45] <sleepie^> dreamstudio: Ask the question.
[03:45] <emin_> hey guys, I am trying to retrieve some data from the home folder after a failed installation via a live usb but I cannot see my old data, any ideas?
[03:46] <dreamstudio> i 'm using dream studio and my wireless doesnt work
[03:46] <sleepie^> dreamstudio: What is wrong with your hp pavilion dv4?
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> SuperLag: you have the NAS device connecte to yout eth0 cable?
[03:46] <pfifo> Dr_Willis_: i know linux supports it, not sure if casper has the ability to do such a thing
[03:46] <SuperLag> lotuspsychje: yes, it's on the LAN
[03:46] <Dr_Willis_> pfifo:  cant say ive ever seen 'linux' support it. its still a bit vague as what you are meaning exctly
[03:46] <dreamstudio> i have one log to show
[03:46] <dreamstudio> something about blacklist drivers
[03:46] <dreamstudio> or something like that
[03:46] <sleepie^> dreamstudio: I don't think dream studio is the reason why your wireless won't work.
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> SuperLag: cant you browse your NAS data over shares? or http?
[03:47] <FoxyRK9> lotuspsychje: Thanks
[03:47] <sleepie^> dreamstudio: Can you pastebin it?
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> FoxyRK9: did it work?
[03:47] <dreamstudio> this Distro is based in ubuntu 12.04
[03:47] <FoxyRK9> I used a wired connection, and update my drivers
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> !yay | FoxyRK9
[03:47] <dreamstudio> yes , sure
[03:47] <dreamstudio> 1 minute
[03:47] <FoxyRK9> I was hitting spped of 22 mbps
[03:47] <FoxyRK9> now im hitting 60+
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> FoxyRK9: great to hear!
[03:48] <FoxyRK9> thats awesome for this netbook
[03:48] <FoxyRK9> im at all four bars though and not one
[03:48] <pfifo> Dr_Willis_: format my usb stick one and only partition as ext2, then have a directory called 'ubuntu_12.04.3_32bit' and install ubuntu 12.04.3 in that directory, instead of on the root of the partition
[03:48] <sleepie^> dreamstudio: Will you run the command lspci -k | grep Network
[03:48] <FoxyRK9> I just hope next time I go to sleep mode and come back I dont have to do this again
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> FoxyRK9: it should not normally
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> SuperLag: you on desktop or server?
[03:49] <mpetri> problem: updated to 13.10. now unity icons are invisible (i can still clock them). I tried dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ && unity --reset-icons. errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6261418/
[03:50] <emin_> anyone can help a noob retrieving some data after a failed update?
[03:50] <sleepie^> dreamstudio: I need to know which wireless card you have. The command lspci -k | grep Network will tell me that.
[03:50] <Dr_Willis_> pfifo:  only things ieve ever seen similer are how Puppylinux, and tinycore linux sort of have their live-frugal modes.
[03:50] <xmetal> sometimes when a new version of a distro comes out, i like to wait a bit for upgrading ... to see if others really have issues with it
[03:50] <dreamstudio> ok
[03:50] <dreamstudio> http://pastebin.com/1dDmz1nT
[03:50] <Dr_Willis_> bbl
[03:50] <dreamstudio> this is my log
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> SuperLag: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16940589/how-do-i-connect-ubuntu-desktop-to-a-nas-using-nfs-or-samba
[03:51] <dreamstudio> 09:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> emin_: if you lost your data, you could try getting back with 'testdisk'
[03:51] <pfifo> Dr_Willis_: would really like to have all versions of ubuntu available
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> !b43 | dreamstudio
[03:52] <dreamstudio> i'll check this link
[03:52] <emin_> lotuspsychje: hi, I tried to update to 12.10 but the process failed beacuse of something related to my laptop multitouch features
[03:52] <dreamstudio> thanks
[03:52] <peepsalot> i tried to update from 13.04 to 13.10 and it crashed during the update.  now i can only boot into recovery mode.  I tried running fsck but even that seems to be freezing up
[03:52] <emin_> lotuspsychje: I think the data are still there I just cannot find them from a live usb
[03:52] <peepsalot> i guess i need to make a recovery cd and run from there?
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> emin_: setup that fails is always danger to loose data, what format is your partition?
[03:53] <emin_> dunno
[03:53] <emin_> lotuspsychje: dont know
[03:53] <xmetal> i (just my preference) usually to fresh installs (and backup everything i wouldn't want to lose, anyway)
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> emin_: your data was on ubuntu on windows?
[03:53] <emin_> ubuntu
[03:53] <emin_> lotuspsychje: ubuntu 12.04
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> emin_: how about try the setup again, and try to safe /home data by upgrade
[03:54] <jon8> I've disabled gnome from loading.. and quite frankly don't want to use it. If terminal says that I have 25 packages to update, how can I update them all from the command line?
[03:54] <emin_> lotuspsychje: after launching from live usb I choose try ubuntu but I dont see the old data then
[03:54] <emin_> lotuspsychje: how do I do that?
[03:54] <FoxyRK9> omg Im hitting 75 mbps
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> emin_: try upgrading, it should save your /home data
[03:55] <mpetri> problem: updated to 13.10. now unity icons are invisible (i can still click them). I tried dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ && unity --reset-icons. errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6261418/
[03:55] <SuperLag> lotuspsychje: desktop
[03:55] <emin_> lotuspsychje: updating to 13.10?
[03:55] <mpetri> any pointers where I could find help?
[03:55] <FoxyRK9> thanks lotuspsychje, you're a miracle worker
[03:55] <FoxyRK9> :)
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> SuperLag: see the link i pasted?
[03:55] <emin_> lotuspsychje: which link?
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> FoxyRK9: you did that on your own mate, by experimenting
[03:56] <FoxyRK9> Im embarrased
[03:56] <wylde> jon8, 'sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade'
[03:56] <FoxyRK9> I been on ubuntu linux for a year ad I hardly know much
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> FoxyRK9: we cant know it all.. its all about learning everyday
[03:57] <FoxyRK9> lotuspsychje: another quick problem
[03:57] <FoxyRK9> not wifi based
[03:57] <xmetal> hmmm speaking of wihch, i am going to take a break from studying ahm
[03:57] <xmetal> oops
[03:57] <emin_> lotuspsychje: if I reinstall 13.10 my data will be lost right?
[03:57] <FoxyRK9> I use a sansa clip Mp3 player and it cant read .m3u playlists
[03:57] <xmetal> ATM *
[03:57] <xmetal> i have one of those (Sansa clips) :) i love it
[03:57] <FoxyRK9> is there anyway I can make it play those playlist or convert them?
[03:58] <FoxyRK9> me too
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> emin_: you need to upgrade first to 12.10
[03:58] <FoxyRK9> I got a 32Gb Micro SD card in my slot
[03:58] <xmetal> 16GB card here
[03:58] <xmetal> (OT OT, i know i know)
[03:58] <emin_> lotuspsychje: that is what I tried to do and this is why it crashed
[03:58] <xmetal> :P
[03:58] <FoxyRK9> Xmetal
[03:58] <emin_> lotuspsychje: can I go back to 12.04?
[03:58] <FoxyRK9> have you gotten playlist to work on it?
[03:58] <FoxyRK9> how and what program
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> emin_: reversing a crashed upgrade is always tricky..
[03:59] <emin_> lotuspsychje: do you think data are lost?
[03:59] <sleepie^> FoxyRK9: I just got a MicroSD to USB adapter. Isn't that cool?
[03:59] <xmetal> hmm i have not really messed with playlists to be honest.. I just navigate via the artist/genre/...etc etc
[03:59] <sleepie^> I didn't know they used the same API.
[03:59] <FoxyRK9> not really
[03:59] <devslash> I ran apt-get upgrade -f and am getting dpkg errors that relate to linux-image for about 12 packages. how do I fix it ? this is the full output: http://pastebin.com/1UhDjRy4
[03:59] <xmetal> i am also using Rockbox (not sure if you can install that to the player in Linux
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> emin_: well i cant see it from here but if its lost you can get it back with testdisk
[04:00] <xmetal> Rockbox = third party firmware
[04:00] <FoxyRK9> yes I know
[04:00] <FoxyRK9> I had it on my sansa fuze 16gb
[04:00] <emin_> lotuspsychje: how do I do that?
[04:00] <xmetal> ah
[04:00] <tinman_> where is my "Source function library"?
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> emin_: i would try upgrade again...see if it works this time
[04:00] <emin_> lotuspsychje: how do I do that? when I launch I got an error message now
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> emin_: you can also try to boo your older ubuntu kernels, by entering grub
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> emin_: and backup your data
[04:01] <emin_> lotuspsychje: from where?
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> emin_: at boot hold shift to enter grub
[04:01] <alancarlos> Hey Guys
[04:01] <xmetal> i would make a drive "image" (though i haven't played with it alot .. Clonezilla is one example of a prog that will do so) before a major upgrade
[04:01] <pfifo> devslash: did you run out of diskspace?
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> emin_: then try booting an older ubuntu version
[04:01] <devslash> no
[04:01] <xmetal> if it "all goes wrong" ... just restore the image
[04:01] <alancarlos> please send me the link about my wireless broadcom again
[04:02] <alancarlos> my notebook rebooted
[04:02] <pfifo> devslash: run 'sudo apt-get install -f'
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> !broadcom | alancarlos
[04:02] <dreamstudio> thanks
[04:03] <sleepie^> dreamstudio: Hey you're back. I looked up your network card, have you tried downloading the windows driver for it, and installing that using ndiswrapper?
[04:03] <Ari-Yang> lotuspsychje: everything is working fine now I: rebooted.... found out laptop booted with the audio being set to HDMI so changed that, removed the radeon.audio=1 line in GRUB and did another reboot, playback is fine
[04:04] <devslash> pfifo, http://pastebin.com/PiLrskmv same errors
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Ari-Yang
[04:04] <dreamstudio> yes
[04:04] <Ari-Yang> lotuspsychje: laptop crashing while being hooked up HDMI definitely f'ed something up.
[04:04] <dreamstudio> but my system said something about modules os ndiswrapper
[04:04] <dreamstudio> fatal erro with modules
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> Ari-Yang: we could have searched long time :p
[04:04] <dreamstudio> something loke that
[04:04] <pfifo> devslash: try this 'sudo apt-get autoremove'
[04:04] <dreamstudio> like*
[04:04] <Ari-Yang> :b
[04:05] <sleepie^> dreamstudio: Did you try multiple sources, multiple different copies of the driver, different versions? With Ndiswrapper for me it's always been a game of trial and error.
[04:05] <dreamstudio> no i tried just that i used to install in WIndows 7
[04:06] <emin_> lotuspsychje: after I shift I see ubuntu, advanced ubuntu and memory test
[04:06] <devslash> pfifo, same errors
[04:06] <emin_> lotuspsychje: I chose advanced and then the first option in revery mode
[04:06] <MegaQuaggan> Question: are there any programs (with GUIs) that can add dsp effects to audio?
[04:06] <emin_> then grub
[04:06] <emin_> lotuspsychje: then grub, but now it is stuck
[04:06] <tinman_> awesome!  sitting here trying to install nagios by hand and its right here in the repos!
[04:07] <xmetal> sitting here studying Circuitry Anaylsis here
[04:07] <xmetal> brb
[04:07] <itnetsec> geez i hate when i do that
[04:08] <pfifo> devslash: run 'sudo apt-get purge linux-image-generic linux-generic'
[04:10] <sleepie^> dreamstudio: Are you using i386 or amd64?
[04:10] <devslash> pfifo, same
[04:10] <dreamstudio> amd64
[04:10] <dreamstudio> my last command in terminal
[04:10] <dreamstudio> sudo apt-get --reinstall install bcmwl-kernel-source
[04:11] <logic_prog> is there a way to "apt-get  install java-from-oracle" ?
[04:11] <dreamstudio> because my wireless card is BMC4312
[04:11] <pfifo> devslash: im stumped, I have no Idea why its trying to install 4 diferent kernels... what did you do to get to this?
[04:11] <SchrodingersScat> logic_prog: http://askubuntu.com/questions/56104/how-can-i-install-sun-oracles-proprietary-java-6-7-jre-or-jdk
[04:11] <devslash> nothing
[04:11] <dreamstudio> and now i am waiting
[04:12] <sleepie^> dreamstudio: If you've tried googling the shit out of it, blacklisting, using backported drivers, and ndiswrapper, I don't know anything else.
[04:12] <logic_prog> wdamn that's complicated :-)
[04:12] <SchrodingersScat> logic_prog: being as it's freedom-denying software, not right now?
[04:12] <pfifo> devslash: can you 'sudo apt-get update' successfully? have you updated recently?
[04:12] <sleepie^> dreamstudio: If it's worked on any other kernel you could always compile it into the current from source.
[04:12] <sleepie^> But I dunno how to do that.
[04:12] <devslash> pfifo,  i havent updated recently because of this error
[04:13] <dreamstudio> i never do that before
[04:13] <pfifo> devslash: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[04:13] <devslash> 13.04
[04:13] <dreamstudio> i never compiled any kernel
[04:13] <dreamstudio> i am affraid that
[04:13] <pfifo> devslash: can you pastebin 'sudo apt-get update'
[04:13] <sleepie^> dreamstudio: Neither have I, if setting synaptic (or ubuntu-software-center) to use backprted drivers doesn't work I'm not sure what else could work.
[04:14] <sleepie^> dreamstudio: Don't be afraid just make a backup first.
[04:14] <dreamstudio> ok
[04:14] <dreamstudio> i`ll reboot my system
[04:15] <devslash> pfifo, iirc that was the first pastebin i pasted here
[04:15] <dreamstudio> and see if the wireless will works
[04:15] <dreamstudio> else works, i`ll do that
[04:15] <pfifo> devslash: the first one was 'apt-get upgrade'
[04:15] <dreamstudio> wait
[04:15] <dreamstudio> please
[04:15] <dreamstudio> i come back quick
[04:22] <dreamstudio> Hi guys
[04:22] <dreamstudio> doesnt work
[04:23] <devslash> pfifo, still here ?
[04:23] <pfifo> yeah
[04:24] <dreamstudio> sleepie^
[04:24] <dreamstudio> doesn`t work
[04:24] <dreamstudio> i think is something with my kernel
[04:24] <dreamstudio> my kernel is lowlatency
[04:25] <andrew> Where would I go for a chatroom about Raspian?
[04:25] <pfifo> !alis | andrew
[04:25] <dreamstudio> and would have to recompile it
[04:25] <dreamstudio> i`ll install Ubuntu 13.10
[04:25] <andrew> Thank you.
[04:25] <dreamstudio> i think i`ll have more luck
[04:25] <Kuroshita> I installed Ubuntu over an Xubuntu install, used the old home partition  (didn't format it) and now at start up it takes 2-5 minutes for my  keyboard and mouse to become functional. How can I fix this?
[04:26] <andrew> Auf Wedersehen
[04:26] <dreamstudio> but thanks for all
[04:26] <dreamstudio> bye
[04:26] <devslash> pfifo, did  gedit /var/lib/dpkg/status and removed all of the offending packages and now i have 1 error relating to initramfs-tools. here is the output of doing apt-get -f install http://pastebin.com/gju6ynf7
[04:28] <zz0> Kuroshita: i phink is better you remove the old ~/.dconf ... .gconf .gnome* and take a deep look on .xsession-errors
[04:28] <akesis> I need a bit of help restoring permissions to my "backgrounds" file for Ubuntu 13.10.
[04:28] <zz0> Kuroshita: i think pink enouth
[04:28] <Kuroshita> pink enouth?
[04:29] <zz0> Kuroshita: forget this part internal crazy joke...
[04:29] <Kuroshita> lol
[04:30] <devslash> can anyone help me with this error when i do apt-get install or apt-get upgrade ? http://pastebin.com/gju6ynf7
[04:30] <akesis> I need a bit of help restoring permissions to my "backgrounds" file for Ubuntu 13.10.
[04:31] <Dysfuccction> Hello.
[04:31] <Kuroshita> zz0: init: at-spi2-registryd main process ended, respawning
[04:31] <Kuroshita> init: at-spi2-registryd respawning too fast, stopped
[04:31] <Kuroshita> sound like the problem?
[04:31] <zz0> akesis: what u mean about restoring permissions? what you do first of all?
[04:31] <akesis> #channels
[04:32] <Dysfuccction> So I'm having mouse issues after installing TF2.
[04:33] <akesis> For some reason I lost the ability to view the file when trying to move some pictures from one file into it.   I'm not quite understanding why this happened.
[04:33] <zz0> akesis: image files just need 644 perms...
[04:33] <akesis> All I know now is that even when I try to change the background...they won't even show up now....just black
[04:34] <zz0> akesis: and folder is better with 755... or 750 if are little paranoic...
[04:34] <zz0> akesis: more paranoics works with 700
[04:34] <akesis> I'm not sure what it is at now.
[04:35] <zz0> akesis: rtfm --> chmod
[04:35] <akesis> Years back when I used Suse...I dabbled a little in moving files and such...but now...with this "sudo" this and that...I'm lost
[04:36] <zz0> Kuroshita: no i dont think so... that's dont means enouth for me... need more information...
[04:37] <akesis> I had found a command to copy the file as a sudo su...and then after a few seconds...it seemed to have been doing something..but now I can't even go to the file and view its contents
[04:37] <Kuroshita> zz0 ah right, that's all that was in the xsession errors
[04:37] <zz0> Kuroshita: the xserver control of your mouse and keyboard have nothing to do with your old /home
[04:38] <Kuroshita> ahright
[04:39] <zz0> Kuroshita: ran a Xorg -configure and stop all xserver then start the x poiting the xorg.conf you just have maked...
[04:39] <zz0> Kuroshita: you know what i mean?
[04:40] <Kuroshita> zz0: nah not really
[04:41] <zz0> Kuroshita: if i understand what you explain... your home is on a separated partition and you just reinstall a new fresh install over the old /
[04:41] <zz0> Kuroshita: yes?
[04:41] <Kuroshita> yeah
[04:42] <Mige> Hola
[04:42] <zz0> Kuroshita: please pastebin your ls -a ˜/
[04:44] <Kuroshita> zz0: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6261580/
[04:44] <akesis> How can..."cp -a /home/akesis/Pictures/ . /usr/share/backgrounds/" possibly change the file permissions?
[04:44] <akesis> This is what I used to try to copy the files
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> what was the exact command you used
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> why do you really need your pictgures in the system wallpaper directory?
[04:45] <xtriz> what is rsync used for ?  it is still used  ?
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> !rsync
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> if you want directory1 on server1 to be identical on server2 you can rsync the 2
[04:46] <akesis> That was it.    For some reason it would not remember when I would copy the pics over there to use for the background.  Every time I closed the window and went back...all the pics were gone again.
[04:47] <xtriz> Dr_Willis, in short rsync is mostly used for mirroring contents ?
[04:47] <Spanktar> Hello #ubuntu, I'm having some troubles installing ubuntu server to a fresh machine.  When it gets all done installing and reboots, I just get a black screen.  I've read lots and lots of pages online about chaining settings and modes and drivers, none of which I can do b/c I can't log in or do anything
[04:47] <Spanktar> it appears to simply be a resolution setting, since the monitor displays the message "cannot display this video mode"
[04:47] <Spanktar> any ideas?
[04:48] <Spanktar> this was a server install, so there should be no GUI
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> xtriz:  thats what its designed for yes.
[04:48] <xtriz> Dr_Willis, ok
[04:48] <zz0> Kuroshita: i think you dont need keep the old profile anymore... rm -rf .config .dmrc .dbus .ICEAuthority .pulse* .themes .Xdefaults .Xauthority
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> Spanktar:  you can tell grub the 'nofb' option and it will not use the framebuffer console. that can cause issues. or try the 'nofb text' option to the boot loader
[04:49] <Spanktar> Dr_Willis: thanks for that advice, but I don't know where I would tell grub anything
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> Spanktar:  turn off most everything ->  'nofb text nomodeset'
[04:49] <zz0> Kuroshita: try this first ... after then... we talk about xorg.conf
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> Spanktar:  right when grub boots.. you hit 'e'
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset
[04:49] <Spanktar> where?  I get no opportunity to enter anything
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> if grub is hidden hold SHIFT to show it
[04:49] <Spanktar> tried that, no grub
[04:49] <xmetal> woo hoo
[04:50] <Spanktar> will try again just to be sure
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> then you are doing it wrong. :)
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> HOLD shift. dont tap it. ;)
[04:50] <xmetal> :) (this time my calculations were CORRECT)
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> Spanktar:  or ssh in and tell grub to not be hidden if ssh is enabled
[04:50] <Spanktar> oh, I held it, all the way from power up
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> and you can alter the other grub configs as well with the other options
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> grub itself has some sort of text/graphical option as well
[04:50] <xmetal> hmm speaking of grub ... i am getting hungry
[04:51] <Spanktar> will try that, but coulddn't find the IP
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> most all the settings are in /etc/default/grub
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> Spanktar:  scan your network? ;)
[04:51] <Spanktar> nope, just held shift again, all the way, no grub :(
[04:51] <Kuroshita> zz0 will restart and see if the removal of those files did anything
[04:51] <xmetal> i use to edit grub legacy by hand ... i find editing grub2 easier with "grub customizer"
[04:51] <xmetal> (less headaches for me :P )
[04:51] <Spanktar> i pinged everything from *.1 to *.20
[04:51] <Spanktar> but I'll try again...
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> Spanktar:  use nmap -sP whatever.*   ;)
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> i rarely need to do more then just unhide grub, and  set it to use text mode
[04:53] <luser0> text mode? is that from Dallas?
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> !text
[04:54] <Spanktar> tries this Esc bit...
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> esc would be for grub1, not grub2. i belive
[04:55] <Spanktar> nope, no dice
[04:55] <Spanktar> ok, I'm starting over.
[04:55] <Spanktar> I'm using a USB stick with alternate amd64 server
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> I have had weird pc;s that woiuld not use the usb keyboard with fruyb
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> grub.
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> i had to use a ps2 keyboard
[04:55] <Spanktar> using ubuntu-12.04.3-alternate-amd64.iso
[04:55] <Spanktar> i have a ps2 keyboard! ;)
[04:56] <Spanktar> I'm going to set it to use nomodeset and apci=off too
[04:56] <Spanktar> this is absurd.  I'm not new to ubuntu, nor to server installs, but this one's really got me stumped
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> framebuffer console can cause issues. and the default grub2 uses a nicer looking graphical mode
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> # Uncomment to disable graphical terminal (grub-pc only)
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> #GRUB_TERMINAL=console
[04:57] <zz0> Spanktar: what's rooling?
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> uncomment that in /etc/default/grub   and rerun update-grub if you can
[04:58] <Elico> Hey I am looking for maybe KVM web interface?
[04:58] <devslash> I need help I disabled encrypted swap and now I can't boot Ubuntu. I booted up from a live cd how can I fix this
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> #GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> can set the default grub mode to use also.
[04:58] <Spanktar> I can't run anything, or log into anything.  I'm starting the install over again.  Is there anything I can do during install to stop any graphical install?
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> devslash:  disable swap in /etc/fstab perhaps?
[04:59] <devslash> I did
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> there is no graphical install for the console. its just some framebuffer stuff i imagine
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> Spanktar:  you could use a live cd and try to fix grub also.
[04:59] <Spanktar> if I had a CD drive, I would
[04:59] <Spanktar> all I've got is USB
[04:59] <zz0> Spanktar: install from text mode...
[05:00] <Spanktar> ok, so I have a screen with the following options:
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> the console on the server install cd can also fix things
[05:00] <zz0> Spanktar: start grub with 1 on end of kernel call
[05:00] <Spanktar> default, install, commandline install, etc...
[05:00] <zz0> Spanktar: fdisk your part and copy by hand the files...
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> i have no idea what the options are an the 'alternative server' install.
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> if you can get to a shell on it. you can try to repair grub/change its options
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> a desktop install can work as a server for most people also. ;)
[05:01] <Spanktar> i can get a shell...
[05:02] <zz0> Spanktar: this is the build from scratch install mode...
[05:02] <devslash> Dr Willis I'm already on the live cd and mounted my partition
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> you can alter your /boot/grub/grub.cfg (but thats not reccomended)   but you can alter it and set the options - they will last untill you rerun update-grub. best way is to edit the  systems /etc/default/grub and rerun the proper update-grub command
[05:02] <Spanktar> tries "command-line install"
[05:03] <topper4125> Dr_Willis: Do you know if its possible to remove it 'grid' on the xfce desktop so I can put icons exactly where I want them?
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> the grub2 docs/wiki should have guides and directions
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> topper4125:  never noticed. or tried. I rarely have any icons on my desktop these days
[05:03] <devslash> Dr Willis are you talking to me or him
[05:04] <topper4125> me too for the most part, just wish I could put the trash can a little closer to the bottom right of the screen :(
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> depenedsd on what you are talking about
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> topper4125:  :) icons on the desktop are so... 1990's
[05:04]  * Dr_Willis shudders when he sees people with their windows desktops and 100 icons 'organized' into areas
[05:04] <topper4125> lol... true
[05:05]  * topper4125 reminds myself to *not* tell Dr_Willis I used the redmond theme for about a year
[05:05]  * Dr_Willis wants a C64 Geos theme
[05:06] <Spanktar> so, Dr_Willis, you're suggesting I use the LiveCD for a server install? I can do that if it helps b/c I'm up against a wall here
[05:06] <devslash> Dr Willis if my home directory is encrypted and I can't boot the fs but I can mount it from the live cd is there a way to access it
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> Spanktar:  you just need z way to get to a shell you can chroot/fix the install.
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> devslash:  if you can mount it. then you should be able to access it with sudo rights
[05:07] <devslash> I cant
[05:07] <devslash> It's not listed there
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> cant what? whats not listed where?
[05:07] <Spanktar> ok, I'll try to get a shell with the fs mounted
[05:07] <devslash> Hang on
[05:08] <devslash> At this point all I care about is recovering my stuff
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> im reminded of why i never use encrypted stuff ;)
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> i dont even know how you mount encryptd homes.
[05:10] <Spanktar> ok, I mounted sda1 as /hdd and there's a grub directory there
[05:11] <Spanktar>  /hdd/grub
[05:11] <devslash> Dr Willis I'm turned off of using Ubuntu on this computer altogether
[05:12] <jmgk> y/clear
[05:14] <Anonynimity> clatu-baratta nikto
[05:16] <devslash> Is there A default password for the user account used on the live cd
[05:16] <zz0> Spanktar: have you used a passphrase during the encript?
[05:16] <Spanktar> no
[05:17] <rannonga> devslash you can change the password using sudo passwd
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> the default user is ubuntu wuth no password
[05:17] <devslash> My home directory is encrypted and I can't boot Ubuntu is there a way to access its
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> 'sudo passwd ubuntu' can changte it i belive
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> devslash:  you would have to boot some sort of ubuntu, or linux and  decrypt/mount it
[05:18] <Spanktar> ok, downloading the LiveCD image :\
[05:18] <devslash> U have booted the cd
[05:18] <devslash> Now what do I do
[05:18]  * Spanktar can't find anything I need in these mounts
[05:18] <devslash> It's encrypted with ecryptfs
[05:19] <akesis> Curious...I tried the command in reverse...and it killed my permissions to my "Pictures" file.  I need a command to give the permissions back.
[05:19] <zz0> Spanktar: have you try this --> http://www.howtogeek.com/116297/ ?
[05:19] <Spanktar> I don't have any encryption problem
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> !permissions | akesis
[05:20] <Spanktar> I have a "boots to nothing w/no grub" problem ;)
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> akesis:  chown them to be owned by your user
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> Spanktar:  and you cant find the ip of your ssh server. at least i THINK the server install has ssh installed by default
[05:21] <Spanktar> i tried to SSH to the first 20 IPs on my subnet
[05:21] <Spanktar> no dice
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> why do you think its in the first 20>
[05:21] <Spanktar> so either SSH wasn't installed or didn't start
[05:21] <akesis> Okay...I'll try that.  thanks.
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> id scan the network with nmap
[05:21] <Spanktar> Dr_Willis: b/c my DHCP gives them out in order normally
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> the #ubuntu-server channel may know if its installed by default, I dont use the server edition
[05:21] <Spanktar> and i only have a few devices in the house
[05:22] <decci> amenode is a single point of failure. Can we use paralle file system instead of HDFS for High availability
[05:22] <decci> Filesystem like GlusterFS or Lustre can surely help in high availability of namenode
[05:22] <decci> what u guys suggest
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> other then checking the namenode forums/channel and see wht they suggest? :)
[05:25] <zz0> decci: http://www.fhgfs.com/cms/
[05:25] <zz0> decci: but have no experience with that one...
[05:25] <MegaQuaggan> Anyone having issues with rhythmbox crashing constantly with 13.10?
[05:26] <decci> zz0: What are its special feature
[05:26] <decci> zz0: I could see 70% of top supercomputer uses lustre
[05:26] <decci> zz0: Never heard about franhoufer
[05:30] <decci> zz0: Does lustre distributes the metadata across the cluster
[05:30] <decci> zz0: Another important aspect is the distribution of file system metadata (e.g. directory information) across multiple metadata servers. Large systems and metadata intensive applications in general can greatly profit from the latter feature.
[05:34] <Spanktar> ok, new pen drive ready with LiveCD iso, here we go, from the top...
[05:34] <xyz> asdf
[05:35] <Spanktar> qwerty
[05:35] <xyz> rotten apple dont take no shit
[05:35] <MegaQuaggan> no this is patrick.
[05:37] <xyz> anyone familiar with kaliL?
[05:46] <lq> ??????/
[05:47] <Cantide> does anyone know if it's possible to run Android apps on Ubuntu Touch... perhaps by running Android in a container ?
[05:48] <wilee-nilee> !touch | Cantide
[05:48] <Cantide> thanks :p
[05:48] <Cantide> i'm in a market for a new phone
[05:48] <Cantide> and i was considering an LG Nexus 4
[05:49] <Cantide> and putting Ubuntu Touch on it
[05:49] <Cantide> unfortunately there are still one or two Android apps i'll need
[05:49] <wilee-nilee> Cantide, this is ubuntu support, touch is on that channel.
[05:49] <Cantide> oh, i see
[05:49] <Cantide> thanks :)
[05:49] <wilee-nilee> no prob. ;)
[05:49] <Cantide> so this is support for the desktop?
[05:49] <wilee-nilee> regular ubuntu
[05:49] <Cantide> I just thought it was general Ubuntu support
[05:49] <Cantide> ah
[05:49] <Cantide> okay
[05:50] <wilee-nilee> touch is a bit if a hybrid is ALL
[05:50] <Cantide> I think the lines regarding what "regular ubuntu" is will blur as Touch gains popularity
[05:50] <s2013_> how do i know if JAVA_HOME is set properly
[05:50] <Cantide> ah yeah, and then they will merge into the same image anyway
[05:51] <xmetal> oops
[05:51] <xmetal> forgot i was logged in
[05:54] <jakemp> how to I turn this new [EN] box at the bar at the top of my screen?
[05:54] <jakemp> nevermind. Menus are hard.
[05:55] <bray90820> what do you think of ubuntu desktop on a 10inch touch screen
[05:57] <Ari-Yang> !poll > bray90820
[05:58] <bray90820> lol ok
[06:00] <davido_> I've been having problems with wifi wake on resume after upgrading to 13.10.
[06:01] <davido_> I'm not sure where to start on sorting it out.
[06:01] <BlueSteel> hi all
[06:04] <xtriz> why is this command different from sudo apt-get install -> sudo gem install jekyll
[06:05] <ItsMeLenny> is there a program to download the same file from multiple sites at the same time, kind of like torrenting but not
[06:06] <MellySquire_> hi guys
[06:06] <davido_> xtriz: One installs a gem, the other installs a package that may contain a gem built out for your system.
[06:06] <xtriz> davido_, what is a gem ?
[06:06] <MellySquire_> how do i get a ubuntu pc to register into a domain?
[06:06] <davido_> A ruby library
[06:07] <xtriz> davido_, ok , and if i wan to remove it how can i do ?
[06:07] <davido_> I don't know how to remove gems.  That's a question for Ruby folks.
[06:08] <davido_> If you're installing something via apt-get, that could be an Ubuntu question.  If you're installing it via gem, it's a Ruby question.
[06:08] <xtriz> davido_, ok
[06:12] <Guest69482> I just clean installed 13.10 after longtime using 13.04. honestly I am still unsure if I like 13.10 so far. seems a little sluggish from 13.04 and my laptops side scroller is not working. and lastly the start menu is transparent black instaid of the unity bars color. so please can anyone help me with these. also does tlp work a okay for 13.10 or have they made it for that yet
[06:14] <aaas> so with 13.04 x2go would work by running /usr/bin/startlubuntu ... this is now missing from 13.10...anyone get x2go working with 13.10?
[06:17] <presonic> i have a 32bit machine with 4 gigs of ram
[06:17] <presonic> when downloading from ubuntu.com they dont present an option for that
[06:17] <presonic> 64 or 32 (but it has to have less than 2 gigs of ram)
[06:20] <kalI_eskrIma>  hi can someone help me here? us this help ubuntu chanel?
[06:20] <presonic> no
[06:21] <kalI_eskrIma> where do I go than?
[06:21] <Ben64> kalI_eskrIma: this is the ubuntu support channel
[06:21] <Ben64> presonic: don't do that
[06:21] <presonic> k
[06:22] <kalI_eskrIma> yeah dont do that. If you are too badass than you should go improve more your skills :)
[06:22] <presonic> heh
[06:23] <presonic> curious as my problem though
[06:23] <presonic> as to*
[06:23] <presonic> doesn't seem to be an option for 4 gig 32 bit machines
[06:23] <presonic> and he also doesn't say '2 gigs or less'
[06:23] <presonic> it says 'less than 2'
[06:23] <Ben64> theres nothing stopping you from using 32 bit on 4GB
[06:23] <presonic> k
[06:23] <presonic> just double checking
[06:23] <Ben64> but why not 64?
[06:23] <wilee-nilee> presonic, 32 and 64 bit on that site and other places, look closer. multiarch allows 32 bit to use 4 gigs ram.
[06:24] <presonic> cause its a 32 bit machine
[06:24] <Ben64> people still have 32 bit cpus?
[06:24] <presonic> heh, its old.  its my replacement while the laptop is in the shop
[06:24] <wilee-nilee> er pae I guess it is
[06:25] <kostkon> 32bit ubuntu uses a pae kernel and is able to use 4 pr more gigs of ram
[06:25] <kostkon> presonic: ^^
[06:26] <Wug> after much banging and smashing my 2 original problems have gone away.  I'm able to use the unity search panel, and I'm able to see files on/interact with my desktop
[06:27] <Wug> New things that I've noticed are wrong: I'm unable to login to any but my own account from the login screen.  Attempting to login to a test account or a guest session accepts the password, then hangs forever.
[06:27] <kalI_eskrIma> Ben64 ok I have a problem with the usb bootable os 12.10. I rebooted the laptop and it didn't brought me to normal installation page (purple). I have a black page and It sayIng that systemfIle couldnt be mounted.. and some other stuff. my bIos uefI Is set to only boot from usb. I disabled the others. I'm running os 12.04
[06:28] <Wug> Also, the volume control has disappeared from the unity bar.  I can still get to it via system settings, but I don't so much like it not being there anymore.  How would I go about getting it back?
[06:28] <Ben64> kalI_eskrIma: check md5 of image, make sure usb is written properly
[06:29] <kalI_eskrIma> where I do that .. I'm logged in currently as root
[06:29] <wilee-nilee> Wug, reset compiz and unity and document the tweaks.
[06:29] <Ben64> !md5 | kalI_eskrIma
[06:29] <kalI_eskrIma> and Im sure us written properly our maybe not..but ask folders and wubI exe was there
[06:30] <Ben64> well how did you put the iso on the usb
[06:30] <kalI_eskrIma> Ben64 ok a sec..let me checj because Im usIng my phone to chat
[06:34] <Wug> wilee-nilee: I ran dconf reset -f /org/compiz, and restarted unity, and this did not correct it
[06:34] <Wug> I'm not sure if this resets unity or just compiz, or how to reset unity (--help says --reset is deprecated and does nothing)
[06:36] <kalI_eskrIma> Ben64 can I run that commands in the screen as Iam now? I'm not in the desktop.  just gaffe black screen as root logged I'm.
[06:36] <wilee-nilee> Wug, What release?
[06:37] <Wug> 13.10
[06:37] <kalI_eskrIma> Cojz as I tle da pomagas?nevem tvoj username
[06:39] <wilee-nilee> Wug, the first command seems correct I see one more here, and a reboot is needed often. http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/reset-unity-and-compiz-in-ubuntu-13-10/
[06:39] <Wug> that's what I was reading, and --reset-icons only affects the icons.  theoretically.
[06:40] <Wug> what package provides the sound indicator dohickey
[06:40] <wilee-nilee> Wug, It's compiz, it has improved but seems a bit funky at times is all.
[06:41] <Wug> appears it's indicator-sound-gtk2
[06:41] <Wug> guess what! it's not installed.
[06:44] <Wug> installing it and restarting lightdm didn't seem to do it
[06:44] <ese> i have 13.04 working fine here, but 13.10 is showing like system upgrade, you guys recommend me to upgrade my ubuntu?
[06:45] <Wug> ese: you'll probably have more luck than me because I skipped 2 versions and am a horrible person
[06:46] <ese> Wug, i dont want to end up with a broken system
[06:47] <Wug> in the reasonably unlikely event that this happens to you, you can use a livecd to recover without losing any data
[06:47] <Wug> I have to restart.  brb
[07:00] <helmut_> hi
[07:00] <wilee-nilee> Wug, why don't you follow known process that work, then come on here and ask for help?
[07:01] <Dissolve> http://play.typeracer.com/?rt=trctmfrs race the master at typing come on
[07:02] <Wug> wilee-nilee: because I won't learn anything that way
[07:03] <suore> Hello, need help, my PC beeps, when i touch borders of text area. (←↓→ backspace) and when reboot/shutdown - Ubuntu 13.10
[07:03] <dannymichel> im trying to set 'Shotwell Viewer' as my default to open images, but the option to set it as default is missing. im only allowed to 'open with' shotwell viewer.
[07:04] <Dissolve> noone wants to race me at typing? =[
[07:04] <Dissolve> http://play.typeracer.com/?rt=trctmfrs
[07:04] <Dissolve> so many people
[07:04] <Ben64> !ot
[07:09] <kali_eskrima> Ben64 you there did you got the last entry?
[07:09] <sicness> Hi. I found a bug during ubuntu 13.10 installation. Where I should file the bug?
[07:10] <sam113101> on launchpad
[07:10] <kali_eskrima> Ben64 i checkd in the terminal for the link you gave me, is saying  that the command was not found. i can see the 5sum here in the 12.10 directory
[07:10] <sam113101> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy
[07:10] <sicness> ok
[07:12] <Ben64> kali_eskrima: what?
[07:12] <kali_eskrima> i will paste here http://paste.ubuntu.com/6262021/
[07:12] <wilee-nilee> Wug, Well, that wastes others time is plain stupid.
[07:12] <wilee-nilee> and is
[07:13] <Ben64> kali_eskrima: well you didn't read the link properly then
[07:13] <kali_eskrima> ? why i can do manual or semi automatic..
[07:13] <kali_eskrima> none of them works
[07:14] <kali_eskrima> why i was kicked out?
[07:14] <Wug> looks like a whole bunch of indicators don't seem to be working
[07:14] <dannymichel> im trying to set 'Shotwell Viewer' as my default to open images, but the option to set it as default is missing. im only allowed to 'open with' shotwell viewer.
[07:14] <KnownSyntax> kali_eskrima: you weren't.
[07:15] <kali_eskrima> so anyone does know how can i upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10. the bootable dvd is not recognized in the uefi bios, and the usb stick is not booting.. ?!!!
[07:15] <kali_eskrima> oh i thought i was sorry KnownSyntax
[07:15] <Ben64> if you have 12.04, just keep it until 14.04
[07:16] <kali_eskrima> so anyone here with some technical knowledge can help me?
[07:16] <Ben64> you can upgrade directly from 12.04 to 14.04, skipping all the ones in between
[07:16] <kali_eskrima> Ben64 no ben its not working correctly. i need to do some work and its been piling up, i need a better working version. on my other laptop i have 12.10 works like charm, never a problem, never!!!!!
[07:17] <wylde> dannymichel, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/raring/man8/update-alternatives.8.html maybe of interest.
[07:17] <Ben64> well fix the problems instead of probably making it worse by upgrading
[07:17] <Wug> kali_eskrima: what exactly do you mean by "not working"
[07:17] <sicness> If I found a bug during Ubuntu 13.10 installation, against that package I should file the bug?
[07:17] <echohiccups> hello
[07:17] <echohiccups> i have some questions
[07:18] <wilee-nilee> !bug | sicness be sure
[07:19] <sicness> If I found a bug during Ubuntu 13.10 installation, against that package I should file the bug? ubuntu-bug <package>
[07:19] <sicness> What package?
[07:19] <sicness> sorry
[07:19] <kali_eskrima> Wug ok my main problem for not keeeping the 12.04 is that my wireless get magically on and off when it wants. mostly is one day works, and than if i shut down my laptop and come back in five 5 to start it up, its not working. i have been going over this issue with some guys/girls here and its not working. some stupid bug or something  mising in the brain of it,. it  usually says, the wireless has been disabled by hardware swit
[07:19] <sicness> I read the help page
[07:19] <sicness> I need to know which package is it
[07:20] <kali_eskrima> Wug it wont show. is not finiding my wifi home base. and sometimes it connects no problems. that is my main reason. the WIFI. i need to work online and i cant always connect to wire..
[07:22] <wilee-nilee> kali_eskrima, are you on the OS right now?
[07:23] <kali_eskrima> Wug and you shall know this too: ironically i bought the original 12.10 ubuntu dvd and i tried to run it in the laptop. didnt recognize and didnt work. and than this laptop when i bought it came with windows 8  / uefi bios, which took me another 2 weeks just to figure out how to reinstall only ubuntu. and i downloaded from the website 12.04. i should have done the 12.10 :(
[07:23] <kali_eskrima> wilee-nilee yes
[07:24] <wilee-nilee> kali_eskrima, what does this command show. lsb_release -a
[07:25] <kali_eskrima> wilee-nilee http://paste.ubuntu.com/6262057/
[07:26] <wilee-nilee> kali_eskrima, Have you identified the wifi hardware to the channel?
[07:26] <saju_m> Hi , I installed Mir in ubuntu 13.10
[07:26] <saju_m> I followed http://fosshelp.blogspot.in/2013/10/how-to-install-mir-ubuntu-1310-saucy.html
[07:26] <kali_eskrima> wilee-nilee did you also saw what i wrote here a moment ago. i kind of explained what happend. if you want me i will copy+paste it 4 u
[07:26] <saju_m> How could i confirm that, Mir is running
[07:27] <kali_eskrima> wilee-nilee what channel? sorry i dont know. because one day it works, the next it doesnt exist. and so on, and on, and on
[07:28] <saju_m> Have any option/command to check whether Mir is running or Not ?
[07:29] <wilee-nilee> kali_eskrima, I don't see the actual wifi hardware you have, run lspci and identify it if internal and lsusb if on a usb.
[07:29] <kali_eskrima> my wifi its internal. it came with laptop
[07:30] <Wug> kali_eskrima: I used to have issues with my wireless
[07:31] <wilee-nilee> kali_eskrima, Then identify it.
[07:31] <Wug> I think that's because my laptop is nearing end of life though, rather than because of software
[07:31] <wilee-nilee> and tell us what it is kali_eskrima
[07:31] <kali_eskrima> wilee-nilee http://paste.ubuntu.com/6262086/ my wifi its internal. because it came with the laptop. even the button doesnt work. fn+F2
[07:31] <deego> kali_eskrima: see what wilee-nilee said above about lspci
[07:31] <kali_eskrima> my nickname
[07:32] <kali_eskrima> or you want to know the orgins
[07:32] <Wug> he wants to know what make and model your wireless chip is
[07:32] <kali_eskrima> deego wilee-nilee http://paste.ubuntu.com/6262086/
[07:32] <kali_eskrima> Wug i think its all copied there right?
[07:33] <Wug> yeah, the wireless card info is there
[07:33] <Wug> line 14
[07:33] <kali_eskrima> wilee-nilee deego  i think i found it 02:00.0 Network controller: Ralink corp. RT3290 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe
[07:34] <wilee-nilee> kali_eskrima, Ralink corp. RT3290 these are problematic in linux take a look, it's not the OS it's a manufacturer that has no good drivers for linux. get a plug and works usb or replace it. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=RT3290 an stop complaining about it.
[07:35] <kali_eskrima> wilee-nilee complaining what? if you dont know you come here and ask. is not complaining. thanks anyway,. will ask someone else for more info. no need to help
[07:38] <deego> kali_eskrima: fyi, after many frustrations with proprietary drivers randomly stopped working, I decided to buy my proprietary-free wifi hardware from thinkpenguin.com
[07:39] <kali_eskrima> deego sorry my ignorance, what in this context would be "proprietary"
[07:40] <kali_eskrima> deego and you just used it as an external wifi drive?
[07:40] <deego> kali_eskrima: many most built-in wifi's and usb wifis that need stuff like ndiswrapper to work.
 deego and you just used it as an external wifi drive? <<[07:41] <kali_eskrima> deego so that means i can run the command in terminal for downloading the "ndiswrapper" ?
[07:43] <suore> Hi, cannot install Google Earth... require ia32-libs, a Saucy ia32-libs packge not exist.
[07:43] <deego> kali_eskrima: yes, and other solutions depending on your chip
[07:43] <motaka2> How can I determine if jdk is installed ?
[07:44] <sicness> java -version ? )
[07:44] <kali_eskrima> deego where can i get the command words for that? how would i type the command for downloading the ndiswrapper?
[07:44] <motaka2> sicness: maybe it i just about JRE
[07:44] <kali_eskrima> deego and when i try to type sudo apt-get update i get always at the end this error.. .will paste now.
[07:45] <sicness> you can found all installed distributions in /usr/lib/jvm/
[07:46] <kali_eskrima> deego http://paste.ubuntu.com/6262144/
[07:47] <deego> kali_eskrima: Ah, it's just a warning. Ignore it for now :)
[07:47] <kali_eskrima> deego thanks. becuase i have been trying to install 13.10, and 12.10 unsucessufuly both..
[07:48] <kali_eskrima> deego so the best solution would be to buy a new wifi hardware-external. so can you help me find out the ndiswrapper command and the rest of solutions for my chip
[07:49] <kali_eskrima> sorry if its too much to ask. i really dont know much. non so un acca (H) :)
[07:49] <motaka2> sicness: this is the result:  http://codepaste.net/mwqnbt
[07:49] <deego> kali_eskrima: Not at all. That's only if you want to spend money. I just needed 100% guarantee. Just google for your chip and you might get it to work.
[07:50] <sicness> motaka2, I don't know java well, but, for instance, if you looking for javac, you can see ls -l /usr/bin/javac
[07:51] <sicness> link will link to one of there distributions at the end
[07:51] <motaka2> sicness: anyway I am trying to install netbeans7.4 but it says it cant find JDK
[07:51] <sicness> maybe your JAVA_HOME is not set?
[07:52] <sicness> env var
[07:52] <RishabhTatiraju> Hi, i need help in installing ubuntu
[07:52] <RishabhTatiraju> im moving from Win7 to Ubuntu
[07:53] <RishabhTatiraju> so i have 4 partitions previously. I am thinking of reducing the system partition and adding some space to swap
[07:54] <RishabhTatiraju> will my other two partitions be affected, since it has my data
[07:54] <ikonia> what do mean by affected
[07:54] <hdgf> j #android
[07:54] <Wug> how much ram do you have, and how much swap are you planning on getting
[07:54] <RishabhTatiraju> i have 2 GB ram
[07:55] <RishabhTatiraju> i have 100 MB partition previouslyused by Windows i  think
[07:55] <kali_eskrima> deego where i find the chip info?
[07:55] <motaka2> sicness: How can I set that ?
[07:55] <Wug> ubuntu uses swap space to hibernate, so if you want to do that you should probably have 4GB of ram
[07:55] <Wug> 4GB of swap*
[07:55] <Wug> otherwise, 2GB will be plenty
[07:55] <RishabhTatiraju> i dont hibernate, so it aint required right?
[07:55] <deego> kali_eskrima:  lspci
[07:55] <deego> -v
[07:55] <Wug> as per the usual for partition resizes, if it all goes ok then the files will be preserved
[07:55] <Ben64> RishabhTatiraju: you should have swap if you only have 2GB of ram
[07:55] <Wug> but if it doesn't all go ok you can lose tons of data
[07:56] <Wug> so it's best to back up everything important to another disk
[07:56] <shafeeq> hi, in my usb flash drive, i saw that a particular folder existed, but files in it are not visible. ls showed the directory size '0'. so i ran fsck and now the folder disappeared, but the space is still occupied. how can i recover the files?
[07:56] <RishabhTatiraju> okay
[07:56] <RishabhTatiraju> thank you
, imho the bestway is add to /etc/environment    export JAVA_HOME=<path_to_java_home>
[07:56] <wylde> RishabhTatiraju, there's always some risk playing with partitions. Good habit to keep regular backups "just in case".
[07:56] <Ben64> !undelete | shafeeq
[07:56] <RishabhTatiraju> well, and where should i install bootloader?
[07:57] <sicness> there java_home is one dir of /usr/lib/jvm   where java "bin" is located
[07:57] <Wug> RishabhTatiraju: it will by default try to install it in the most sensible place, and it's best to let it stay there
[07:57] <RishabhTatiraju> in dev/sda?
[07:57] <RishabhTatiraju> or my system partition?
[07:58] <RishabhTatiraju> i.e. dev/sda2
[07:58] <ikonia> RishabhTatiraju: it goes on the master boot record - not on a partition
[07:58] <sicness>  motaka2, and might http://help.ubuntu.ru/wiki/java can be useful
[07:58] <RishabhTatiraju> it wouldnt affect my data, right?
[07:58] <ikonia> RishabhTatiraju: the master boot record is outside of the partition
[07:59] <sicness> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6477415/how-to-set-java-home-in-ubuntu too
[07:59] <RishabhTatiraju> so i choose my master drive?
[07:59] <motaka2> sicness: thx
[07:59] <Wug> choose whichever drive you boot from
[07:59] <ikonia> RishabhTatiraju: it goes on the master boot record of the drive you boot from
[08:00] <RishabhTatiraju> okay, thanks
[08:00] <motaka2> sicness: it's russian
[08:00] <sicness> :) funny
[08:01] <sicness> You can easily google english version by "ubuntu java"
[08:02] <neetz_> hey guys I just installed bumblebee , How do i make it default ?
[08:04] <kali_eskrima> deego so i shoudl google the chip drivers or chip ndiswrapper???
[08:06] <Wug> huh.
[08:07] <paule> Hello I hope I find someone here who can help me
[08:07] <HaltingState> is 13.10 out/
[08:07] <Wug> I'm able to get the sound indicator to appear if I kill it (because it apparently is running)
[08:07] <Wug> HaltingState: yes
[08:08] <paule> My laptop is not starting the gui anymore, I think its the driver of the nvidia, but I don't know how to change the driver in command line
[08:08] <ikonia> paule: what did you change to stop it working
[08:08] <paule> I changed the driver to a newer one
[08:08] <ikonia> paule: why did you do that ?
[08:08] <Wug> paule: what package did you install to do that
[08:09] <paule> I don't know, its the newer driver for the nvidia device
[08:09] <wylde> paule, or did you use the "Additional Drivers" tool?
[08:09] <paule> how can I look at this?
[08:09] <newbie> Hello
[08:09] <ikonia> paule: why did you do that ?
[08:09] <paule> "additional drivers" yes
[08:09] <neetz_> hey guys I just installed bumblebee , How do i make it default ?
[08:09] <neetz_> ?
[08:09] <ikonia> paule: did you get it from nvidia.com or from an ubuntu package
[08:10] <wylde> paule, you can re-run the tool from the commandline using jockey-text then and select the driver that worked.
[08:10] <paule> in "additional drivers" there was a newer driver, and this was the one I've installed
[08:10] <ikonia> paule: why did you change the driver
[08:10] <Kalopa> Im currently on windows atm and when i try to install ubuntu on dual boot it doesn't detect the windows 7 os
[08:10] <wylde> paule, probably need to prepend that with sudo
[08:10] <paule> because sometimes I have graphic problems
[08:10] <Kalopa> Can anyone help me with this issue?
[08:11] <paule> how can I change back the driver, sorry I am not a command line genius
[08:11] <Kalopa> I'm assuming no.
[08:12] <paule> jockey-text?
[08:13] <wylde> paule, yes. It's the same tool, it just uses ncurses rather than a fancy gui. 'sudo  jockey-text'
[08:14] <Moccodo> Hello, on Ubuntu 13.10 I have a folder with my programming projects in it. I care about data loss, so I want to sync this folder with one on another drive (partition) (or even better, with a folder located on a windows network folder). How can I do that?
[08:14] <wylde> !rsync | Moccodo
[08:14] <bekks> Moccodo: Using rsync, you could keep a copy, and using a backup, you can even have multiple version of it.
[08:15] <Moccodo> Cool, thx
[08:20] <Koloa> Hi, was wondering if anyone know why ubuntu not finding my windows 7 partiton?
[08:20] <Koloa> Or if ubuntu can't read Solid state drives?
[08:20] <ikonia> what do you mean, not finding it
[08:21] <Koloa> For the installation ikonia
[08:21] <ikonia> what do you mean doesn't find it
[08:21] <Koloa> "This computer currently has no detected operating systems. What would you like to do?"
[08:21] <ikonia> Koloa: where do you see that
[08:22] <Koloa> The installation for ubuntu 13.10
[08:22] <Koloa> for the installation type
[08:22] <ikonia> what options are there ?
[08:22] <Koloa> erase disk and install ubuntu, encrypt the new ubuntu for security, use lvm with the new ubuntu installation or something else
[08:23] <Koloa> which is making partitions\
[08:23] <ikonia> Koloa: tell me about your harddisk setup, is it just a single disk SSD for windows ?
[08:23] <Koloa> Single SSD for windows
[08:23] <ikonia> Koloa: is it sat on the disk controller on the motherboard ?
[08:24] <Koloa> I believe so.
[08:24] <ikonia> Koloa: is it windows 8 ?
[08:24] <Koloa> I said it was windows 7
[08:24] <ikonia> I missed that, sorry
[08:25] <ikonia> Koloa: are you able to open a terminal from the gui before starting the install (you may have to boot into the "try ubuntu" option from the install media)
[08:25] <Koloa> I'm already on the try ubuntu
[08:25] <ikonia> ok, can you please open a terminal
[08:25] <Koloa> done
[08:25] <ikonia> please type "sudo fdisk -l" and paste the output into a pastebin
[08:26] <Koloa> http://pastebin.com/zVgLxPt8
[08:26] <Koloa> the SSD is 120gb btw
[08:26] <Koloa> but its not listing it
[08:26] <Koloa> It's only listing my HDD drive
[08:27] <ikonia> Koloa: it's listed there
[08:27] <ikonia> /dev/sdb1
[08:27] <ikonia> that is the windows partition, it's there
[08:27] <Guest68164> i ran into a weird glitch with my ubuntu 13.10. I just upgraded from 13.04. my start search color is black rather then my unity's color. it sticks out like a sore thumb. goes back to normal when I mess with the unities color scheme and back again. would like a perminant fix please help
[08:27] <Koloa> ah...
[08:27] <Koloa> Well it's not detecting it in GParted or the installation then
[08:27] <ikonia> Koloa: it is in gparted
[08:27] <ikonia> you need to use the drop down in the top right of gparted to display other disks
[08:28] <Koloa> ah there it is
[08:28] <Koloa> So why is the installation not finding it then?
[08:28] <Koloa> I have like 500gb free for ubuntu
[08:28] <ikonia> Koloa: is there any encyption on these disks ?
[08:29] <Koloa> I do not believe there is
[08:29] <Koloa> Also theres no boot flag on the SSD drive
[08:29] <ikonia> Koloa: I suspect if you chose "advanced" as the installation option you'll see your SSD disk when you go through to the partitioning stage
[08:30] <ikonia> Koloa: just be very careful what you are changing when partitioning
[08:30] <babinlonston> There are 20 files inside a Directory and each file may vary in size and how can i see the total size of that Directory which contain those files in command line .
[08:30] <Koloa> I once got Ubuntu onto a 8gb USB drive once :P
[08:30] <ikonia> Koloa: what has that got to do with anything ?
[08:30] <ikonia> it's hardly impresssive or anything to do with wha tyou are discussing
[08:30] <Koloa> well i had to use the partiton thing to get that
[08:30] <ikonia> babinlonston: du -h
[08:31] <Koloa> Ok, so what partitions would i need
[08:31] <Koloa> to make windows to recgonise the swap?
[08:31] <ikonia> Koloa: what do you mean, what partitions would you need ?
[08:31] <ikonia> Koloa: windows won't use the same swap partition as ubuntu
[08:31] <Koloa> So what do i do then in the partiton then?
[08:32] <ikonia> Koloa: make the partitions you want your ubuntu install to use to install ubuntu onto
[08:32] <babinlonston> ikonia: works man :)
[08:36] <Koloa> argh im confused
[08:36] <Koloa> I need a swap, boot and home partition right?
[08:37] <ikonia> Koloa: you can have as many/few as you want
[08:38] <Koloa> yes but the problem is what sizes do i make each of the partition
[08:38] <Koloa> I know im gonna make my swap 8gb
[08:39] <Koloa> but not sure about the root or home
[08:39] <ikonia> 8GB ??
[08:39] <ikonia> why do you need 8GB of swap
[08:39] <ikonia> if you are swapping out 8GB of ram beyond hibernation, your machine is in trouble
[08:40] <zvacet> Koloa:  no more then 4GB for swap, 10-15 for root rest for home
[08:41] <Guest68164> 13.10 unity dash color is black and doesn't match unity bar's color. its fixxed when I manually change the color in unity tweak but comes back when I restart the computer. Want a permanent fix please help
[08:42] <Koloa> ty
[08:42] <Koloa> Cos i read you should make it the same size as your ram
[08:42] <Koloa> And i have 8gb ram
[08:42] <Svetlana> Guest68164: Is unity-tweak in the repos, or third-party tool?
[08:42] <high_fiver>  Guest68164, how are you setting the color?
[08:42] <ikonia> Koloa: do you plan to use hibernation/suspend ?
[08:43] <Guest68164> Svetlana, unity-tweak from the ubuntu software center
[08:43] <zvacet> Koloa:  with your ram you will probably not need swap but if it is laptop maybe because of hibernation and similar stuff
[08:43] <Guest68164> high_fiver, normally the unity bar auto changes with the theme. I would change the color manually for my themes but its always solid when I do that and not transparent
[08:43] <Svetlana> Guest68164: Ok. See what high_fiver asked then please...
[08:44] <Guest68164> high_fiver, when I mean auto change for the theme I mean the color normally changes with whatever picture I setup as wallpaper
[08:45] <high_fiver> Guest68164, I read this was fixed for 13.10, i'll try find the bug
[08:45] <droid> Hey, I read I'm meant to come to here to report a bug?
[08:45] <droid> oh,dw
[08:46] <Discordian93> Hello, i need some help. Ubuntu isn't detecting my zte open when i connect it via usb for some reason.
[08:46] <Guest68164> high_fiver, thank you. just upgraded from 13.04. would appreciate a permanent fix for this.
[08:46] <high_fiver> Guest68164, from what i remember it was a unity-tweak bug
[08:47] <Discordian93> it detcted it once, but no more. I have tried rebootinmg and everything!
[08:47] <high_fiver> Guest68164, If you've not heavily customised using unity-tweak i'd suggest uninstalling and checking you have saurcy repo and re-install
[08:47] <Guest68164> high_fiver, the bug existed before I installed unity tweak :(. if anything unity tweak temporarly fixed it. it happened in live mode too
[08:47] <Discordian93> and yes, usb transfer is enabled on the phone
[08:48] <Guest68164> high_fiver, definately a 13.10 bug in itself
[08:49] <Koloa> who was it that mentioned about the err swaps
[08:49] <Koloa> Cos i dced if he messaged me back
[08:49] <ikonia> err swaps ???
[08:49] <ikonia> Koloa: please try to be clear about what you are asking
[08:49] <Koloa> ikonia: swap partition which i was talking to someone who had a z in his name
[08:50] <ikonia> Koloa: just ask your question
[08:50] <Koloa> He was saying that swap partition should be most likely on laptops but i asked wouldn't i need it for windows dual boots?
[08:51] <ikonia> Koloa: did you not read the message I said earlier that windows WILL NOT use your ubuntu swap partition
[08:51] <Discordian93> can't anyone help?
[08:51] <ikonia> Koloa: also are you planning to use hibernate/suspect on your desktop ?
[08:51] <Koloa> No.
[08:51] <reisio> Discordian93: with?
[08:51] <ikonia> Koloa: no to what question
[08:52] <Discordian93> my phone is not bing detected by ubuntu
[08:52] <Koloa> To what you asked me ikonia
[08:52] <Discordian93> it doesn't appear in nautilus' list of devices
[08:52] <ikonia> Koloa: I asked you two questions
[08:53] <Koloa> And if it doesn't use my swap partition then how do i get it to dual boot?
[08:53] <ikonia> Koloa: answer my question first
[08:53] <ikonia> Koloa: swap partition has nothing to do with dual booting, there is no requirement for it for dual booting
[08:54] <Koloa> Koloa: I don't think i saw when you said that windows will not use my swap. And ubuntu does it automatically?
[08:54] <ikonia> Koloa: ubuntu does what automatically ?
[08:54] <ikonia> Koloa: are you planning to use suspend/hibernation ?
[08:54] <Koloa> ... Dual booting and i already answered that question ikonia
[08:55] <ikonia> Koloa: I've not seen you answer that question, could you please be clear in your resposnes
[08:55] <Koloa> "[08:54] <Koloa> Koloa: I don't think i saw when you said that windows will not use my swap. And ubuntu does it automatically?"
[08:55] <ikonia> Koloa: that's not answering my question about if you plan to use suspend/hibernation
[08:55] <Discordian93> it apparently shows up in lsusb
[08:55] <Koloa> You oblivously skipped over
[08:55] <Discordian93> but it won't appear in nautilus
[08:55] <ikonia> Koloa: no, you are not answering the questions I'm asking
[08:56] <Koloa> no i dont have a lptop
[08:56] <ikonia> Koloa: you can use suspect/hibernation on desktop
[08:56] <Discordian93> nop, not in lsusb
[08:56] <Discordian93> drat
[08:56] <ikonia> Koloa: however if you don't plan to use it, you don't need 8GB of swap
[08:56] <Koloa> ikonia: Mine doesn't have those options
[08:56] <Discordian93> what the heck is going on?
[08:57] <Koloa> Discordian93: No idea but ikonia is starting to be a bit annoying to me.
[08:57] <ikonia> Koloa: no problem then - I won't help you any more if it's annoying you. Please be aware you are making bad decisions due to your lack of knowledge
[08:57] <bazhang> !attitude | Koloa
[08:58] <mjayk> to be fair ikonia was just trying to help no need to act like an arse Koloa he doesnt get paid :D
[08:58] <Koloa> Well, she's the one who's not seeing the answers for her questions
[08:58] <Plizzo> I had a power failure yesterday, and now I'm fearing one of my RAID5 discs have gone bad. Please read and help me. http://askubuntu.com/questions/361489/problem-with-mdadm-raid5-after-power-failure-disk-missing
[08:58] <Koloa> I have 12gb partiton for / and the rest for /home
[08:58] <ikonia> Koloa: you are not answering the questions I'm asking, I am seeing all your responses, hey are not responses to the questions I'm asking
[08:58] <bazhang> Koloa, stop with the editorializing
[08:58] <ikonia> good luck
[08:59] <gordonjcp> !attitude | Koloa
[08:59] <Soul-Sing> pff
[09:00] <Discordian93> so, no help possible? isn't there any way to forcibly mount usb devices?
[09:02] <wilee-nilee> Discordian93, Which ubuntu release?
[09:02] <Discordian93> 13.04
[09:02] <Discordian93> wanna sort this out before i upgrade
[09:02] <wilee-nilee> Discordian93, This a phone with android?
[09:02] <Discordian93> nop, firefox os
[09:03] <wilee-nilee> Discordian93, how does lsusb describe it?
[09:03] <Discordian93> it doesn't, i was wrong, it doesn't show up
[09:03] <Discordian93> (and yes it's plugged in and charging)
[09:04] <WebbyIT> On Ubuntu 13.10 you can't drag and drop an app from dash to desktop, there is a workaround?
[09:04] <Koloa> Installing ubuntu now
[09:04] <wilee-nilee> Discordian93, I would ask FF, never seen one here, most are android, and they are hit and miss per the release by carriers,
[09:04] <Koloa> Hope it does dual boot properly.
[09:04] <Discordian93> bizarre thing is it was detecte donce3
[09:04] <Discordian93> oce*
[09:04] <Discordian93> once**
[09:04] <Discordian93> and no more
[09:05] <alazyworkaholic> What is a btrfs snapshot, & what is it good for?
[09:05] <Guest68164> high_fiver, I just checked. unity tweak is the latest version from the repos. no this is definately a 13.10 bug. They need to have an easy fix for this. I gave a few family members 13.04 and planned to upgrade them to 13.10. still undecided but alot of reviews said under the hood it is superior to 13.04
[09:06] <Discordian93> can't i force the device to be mounted somehow?
[09:06] <bazhang> alazyworkaholic, #btrfs for that
[09:07] <wilee-nilee> Discordian93, see if it shows with sudo blkid
[09:07] <bazhang> !find gmtp
[09:07] <bazhang> Discordian93, install gmtp, then set device to mtp, connect via usb
[09:08] <Discordian93> mtp?
[09:08] <reisio> alazyworkaholic: snapshots are good for referring/reverting back to
[09:08] <bazhang> Discordian93, Gmtp
[09:08] <Discordian93> how do is et the device to ti gmtp?
[09:09] <Discordian93> set the device to*
[09:09] <alazyworkaholic> reisio: so I could use one like this... Make a snapshot, then install something experimental, then roll back the snapshot if it doesn´t work out?
[09:09] <bazhang> Discordian93, check in the settings/preferences, I have no idea for your particular device/have you even told us the device name
[09:10] <reisio> alazyworkaholic: stuff like that, sure
[09:10] <high_fiver> Guest68164, file a bug report. There have been many changes but nothing really to benefit relatives at this stage. Personally I recommend LTS to anyone wanting to try Ubuntu.
[09:10] <Discordian93> the only option it has is to enable usb mass storage, and it's turned on
[09:10] <bazhang> Discordian93, you set the the device to mtp, you install the package ----------> gmtp <------------------
[09:11] <Discordian93> yeah, but i don't know hwo tos et the device to mtp
[09:11] <bazhang> Discordian93, disconnect the device
[09:11] <bazhang> Discordian93, sudo apt-get install gmtp
[09:11] <high_fiver> Guest68164, you wont have to spent your time fixing their PC issues
[09:11] <alazyworkaholic> reisio: thanks
[09:11] <bazhang> Discordian93, then reattach
[09:12] <Guest68164> high_fiver, meh I found 13.04 leaps and bounds ahead of 12.04 as far as speed was concerned. I might have messed up in that regard. but still I'll upgrade them to 13.10 when I get a complete hang on this thing. after 14.04 I probably won't mess around with non lts.
[09:12] <Discordian93> not working, gmtp says there are no devices
[09:13] <high_fiver> Guest68164, if you do decide to upgrade them wait a few months until the little issues have been ironed out
[09:13] <bazhang> Discordian93, did you ever tell us the device name
[09:13] <Discordian93> zte open
[09:13] <Guest68164> high_fiver, good plan :). when you think 13.04's support end?
[09:13] <bazhang> Discordian93, which is a phone/tablet/what
[09:13] <Discordian93> phone
[09:14] <geirha> Guest68164: January 2014
[09:14] <wilee-nilee> bazhang, It's a firefox OS phone, I see no info on its file type or linking to a computer so far.
[09:14] <high_fiver> it's 9 months from release
[09:14] <high_fiver> Guest68164, Jan 2014
[09:15] <high_fiver> Guest68164, I think
[09:15] <Guest68164> geirha, high_fiver,  thank you. gives me a couple of months to wait on it and for them to iron the bugs out. by then it should definately be a good upgrade
[09:16] <Guest68164> high_fiver, so far other then that troublesome bug its showwing promise. nothing huge after 13.04 but surprisingly It might even have booted up faster. not certain but it seemed that way. no updates after first setting up
[09:17] <high_fiver> Guest68164, Although reviews are bashing it saying its boring I'd disagree - LXC 1.0 support and OpenStack is exciting!
[09:17] <bekks> high_fiver: I'd use vbox instead. :)
[09:17] <high_fiver> Guest68164, 14.04 is the next upgrade for me! Should bring it all together
[09:18] <Guest68164> high_fiver, I find anything open source these days exciting. Thanks to android I am rooting for ubuntu and google since microsoft messed up hardcore with windows 8. its so flat and boring and not that much faster then 7. infact same flipping speed in my book. I hated it
[09:18] <Discordian93> could any of these help you help me? mac address, imei, iccid of the device
[09:19] <ikonia> Discordian93: come on - this is your device, your phone, read the docs on it on how to get the information, this isn't android support
[09:19] <high_fiver> bekks, I run LXC in vbox
[09:19] <Discordian93> firefox os, and there are no docs
[09:19] <ikonia> Discordian93: ok, then it's firefox OS
[09:19] <ikonia> Discordian93: the point is still the same
[09:19] <Guest68164> high_fiver, and hell on here I have so many options to customize. and with each new ubuntu release new features.
[09:20] <Discordian93> but it's a problem iwth ubuntu, the phone works fine, it's ubuntu not detcting it. but okay
[09:20] <ikonia> Discordian93: yes, and you've been told how to make it work with ubuntu
[09:20] <ikonia> Discordian93: now you need information from the phone - you need to get that information
[09:21] <Kolac> Well i restarted my pc after installing ubuntu and it booted into windows 7
[09:22] <bekks> Kolac: Did you install Ubuntu after Windows 7?
[09:22] <Kolac> Yes.
[09:22] <bekks> Kolac: Where did you install grub to?
[09:22] <Kolac> no idea i just set the partitions for root and /home
[09:23] <bekks> Kolac: And you were asked where grub should be installed to.
[09:23] <xtriz> is their some cheat-sheet for all apt-get and aptitude commands ?
[09:24] <ikonia> xtriz: man apt-get
[09:24] <ikonia> xtriz: man aptitude
[09:24] <bekks> xtriz: "man apt-get" and "man aptitude".
[09:24] <Kolac> It didn't ask me at all for the grub
[09:25] <wilee-nilee> Kolac, You have more than one HD?
[09:25] <Kolac> Yes. I have an SSD and a HDD
[09:25] <Kolac> SSD is what's windows on
[09:25] <wilee-nilee> Kolac, This a uefi W7?
[09:26] <Kolac> I'm sorry wilee-nilee what is a uefi W7?
[09:26] <xtriz> ikonia, bekks :)
[09:26] <Guest68164> high_fiver, anyway thank you for the help. hopefully they will fix that bug. surly it will eratate other people as well
[09:26] <wilee-nilee> Kolac, I would see if you boot the second drive first in the bios you get ubuntu's grub
[09:27] <Discordian93> sent a mail to the firefox os mailing list, hopefully they'll know how to enable mtp on zte open
[09:27] <wilee-nilee> chances are grub is in it's mbr
[09:27] <Kolac> I'll try that then wilee-nilee
[09:27] <Kolac> Brb.
[09:27] <Discordian93> though i think it's already enabled, that's what "usb mass storage" should be
[09:29] <Discordian93> okay, fiound
[09:29] <Discordian93> found info: zte open has no mtp
[09:29] <Discordian93> so, I guess I'm screwed
[09:30] <Kolac> wilee-nilee: No it doesnt show up.
[09:31] <Voi> is it possible to use 13.10 with older kernels? (im aiming for 3.6 or so)
[09:31] <ikonia> Voi: no
[09:31] <ikonia> Voi: (technically yes but not in a real world situation)
[09:31] <Kolac> wilee-nilee: ?
[09:32] <wilee-nilee> Kolac, There is an app bootrepiar to fix boots, and it runs a script called the bootinfo summary that you save the url to, run just that and post the url. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[09:33] <Voi> ikonia: i got a bug thats most likely been introduces with 3.7 and hasnt been fixed yet (and pretty much makes using ubuntu impossible for me), what do i do? :)
[09:33] <ikonia> Voi: wait for the bug to be fixed
[09:33] <wilee-nilee> Kolac, That summary will tell us what is up without tons of questions.
[09:33] <ikonia> Voi: push and drive the bug solution forward
[09:33] <Kolac> wilee-nilee: run that in ubuntu or windows?
[09:34] <wilee-nilee> Kolac, You would use the live cd/usb read the link.
[09:35] <Discordian93> so, if gmtp is not an option there is no other solution? firefox os doesn't appear to support mtp
[09:35] <askds> hi guys, does anyone know about scrypt mining in ubuntu with cgminer? ive got an amd 5970 with 2 gpus on it, and i cant get the 2nd gpu to work in cgminer even though ive exported it
[09:36] <fooman2011> Hello, could you tell me where I can find help about the espeak configuration ? I have a problem using French language. :(
[09:36] <ikonia> Discordian93: the best thing to do would be to ask the firefox team "what is the process to use this with linux"
[09:36] <ikonia> Discordian93: once they have clarified the process/requirements you can look at setting that up in ubuntu
[09:37] <Discordian93> yeah, already sent them an email to the mailing. list. wil wait, bye
[09:39] <gs2012> hi!
[09:39] <gs2012> i need help
[09:39] <gs2012> i want to install
[09:39] <gs2012> Android-x86
[09:39] <gs2012> to a USB drive
[09:39] <gs2012> what happens then?
[09:40] <gs2012> will I be able to boot that drive from any PC?
[09:40] <mjayk> what do you mean what happens then lol
[09:40] <metawolf> if android supports the hardware, then yes.
[09:40] <gs2012> what happens if I install Grub
[09:40] <ikonia> gs2012: that's not really an ubuntu issue
[09:40] <mjayk> And your probably better looking in th Android channel
[09:40] <ikonia> gs2012: take it to the android support channels please.
[09:40] <gs2012> what is the channel?
[09:40] <mjayk> no idea
[09:40] <gs2012> :(
[09:40] <ikonia> gs2012: ask in #freenode how to search channels
[09:41] <mjayk> try google they may tell you
[09:41] <bekks> !alis | gs2012
[09:44] <usergwiel> hi there
[09:44] <cfhowlett> usergwiel, greetings
[09:45] <usergwiel> is anyone online who could help me install ubuntu? because i've got a problem ;)
[09:45] <ikonia> usergwiel: if you explain your problem, people can try to help
[09:45] <cfhowlett> !details|usergwiel,
[09:47] <usergwiel> i did install ubuntu earlier, but at this time i had just one HDD. installation was no problem at that time. now i got 1 SSD and 2 HDDs. at one of them i want to install ubuntu as dualboot system, but i cannot put the bootloader onto my SSD...well in the installation  settings i did, but windows 7 (which i am using right now) startet as usual
[09:48] <ikonia> usergwiel: you put the boot loader on the master boot record of the drive your bios is set to boot from
[09:48] <usergwiel> how to?
[09:50] <usergwiel> or rather i did select the SSD (win7 is there) as bootloader place, but nothing happend, no boot manager at starting the pc
[09:51] <ikonia> usergwiel: please re-read what I said
[09:51] <wilee-nilee> usergwiel, were you just here as Kolac?
[09:51] <ikonia> usergwiel: offers you grub install options, normally the default is fine, but if your hard disk layout is unusual, you may need to manually select the drive your motherboard is set to boot as
[09:52] <usergwiel> wilee-nilee: dunno what kolac is | ikonia: thanks, have to reboot to check my bios settings again
[09:53] <Kolac> wilee-nilee: It worked got the Grub now on the windows partition as well
[09:53] <Kolac> wilee-nilee: Thanks :D
[09:53] <Kolac> Now i need to take my leave for now
[09:53] <wilee-nilee> Kolac, cool, enjoy.
[09:55] <Mantissa> Steam installed some 32 bit packages upon install but still gives me the openGL not using direct rendering msg on a 64 bit install.
[09:55] <fooman2011> Hello, could you tell me where I can find help about the espeak configuration ? I have a problem using French language. :(
[09:56] <dklps2> hi
[09:56] <MonkeyDust> fooman2011  have you asked in #ubuntu- fr ?
[09:56] <MonkeyDust> fooman2011  have you asked in #ubuntu-fr ?
[09:57] <Arin> Hi. I have downloaded Lubuntu 13.10 in Windows, but I have no idea how to  check sha256sums in Windows. Does anyone know how to do it, or if I can check the sum from the CD it is written on when it is in live-session?
[09:58] <reisio> Arin: unfortunately Windows has no native function for that, but we can find you a util
[09:59] <bekks> winmd5 :)
[09:59] <Discordian93> I fixed it! My phone is now detcted! It was either the usb cable or the phone config, either way changing the cable and resetting the phone fixed it
[09:59] <reisio> Arin: if you install http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/downlinks/coreutils.php
[09:59] <Arin> reisio: Thanks. I did actually search a little, but didn't seem to be much there.
[09:59] <reisio> Arin: then open up a command prompt, you can use sha256sum -c fileName
[09:59] <cfhowlett> Arin, http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/
[10:00] <Arin> Thanks evryone :)
[10:07] <bigdaddy> hi, i'm trying to get some network drivers for my laptop which has no network connectivity, how can i do that?
[10:08] <thegladiator_> how to access android mobile over wifi from ubuntu
[10:08] <metawolf> If your laptop is not connected with a network, you can't connect to network drives.
[10:08] <thegladiator_> its connected to my home lan
[10:09] <metawolf> oh, in that case: are they directly connected with your router?
[10:09] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys how do i move a directory with files using the MV command
[10:09] <Psil0Cybin> i want to move a folder out of /Themes/filename/filename into /Themes/filename
[10:10] <thegladiator_> i use the same wifi to access internet but here it the problem if I on wifi transfer in my android app
[10:10] <thegladiator_> Psil0Cybin, go to /Themes/filename/filename type  mv filename ../
[10:11] <Borealis58> Bigdaddy, what is the name and model of your laptop?
[10:11] <thegladiator_> but hey is filename the same folder name in /Themes/filename/filename
[10:11] <thegladiator_> then its a trouble generally
[10:11] <bigdaddy> acer 4820t, Borealis58
[10:11] <bigdaddy> i might have a solution
[10:12] <thegladiator_> Psil0Cybin,  suppose I am in folderP/folderC/folderGC I can do a mv folderGC ../  ... folderP will have folderC and folderGC
[10:12] <Psil0Cybin> mv: cannot stat `SMF2': No such file or directory
[10:12] <Psil0Cybin> Bee@TheHive:/usr/share/nginx/www/hub/Themes/SMF2/SMF2$ cd ..
[10:12] <Psil0Cybin> Bee@TheHive:/usr/share/nginx/www/hub/Themes/SMF2$ sudo mv SMF2 ../
[10:12] <Psil0Cybin> mv: cannot move `SMF2' to `../SMF2': Directory not empty
[10:12] <Psil0Cybin> Bee@TheHive:/usr/share/nginx/www/hub/Themes/SMF2$
[10:12] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:12] <Borealis58> Bigdaddy, you need to find the wifi card type and model. What OS are you running?
[10:13] <thegladiator_> Psil0Cybin, you already have a file of the same name , can u rename the desitination SMFC2 to SMF2_OLD
[10:13] <Psil0Cybin> okay yea
[10:13] <Psil0Cybin> so i rename it first?
[10:13] <Psil0Cybin> then move it?
[10:13] <thegladiator_> yeah Themes/SMF make it Themes/SMF_OLD and try
[10:14] <thegladiator_> so now go to Themes/SMF_OLD and do the same command
[10:14] <thegladiator_> rename is also a mv ... mv SMF SMF_OLD in Themese directory
[10:14] <Psil0Cybin> I love u thegladiator_
[10:14] <Psil0Cybin> your the man!! of the night
[10:15] <thegladiator_> lol
[10:15] <thegladiator_> np
[10:15] <thegladiator_> thats basic linux
[10:16] <thegladiator_> any one using wifi explorer to android phones from ubuntu
[10:17] <ctrl__> hi
[10:17] <kenshiro> Hi
[10:17] <DJones> thegladiator_: Do you mean access the android phone's memory/storage via wifi?
[10:17] <thegladiator_> yep
[10:17] <kenshiro> After upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10, my gnome classic desktop is broken. Up panel bar is empty and it's not possible to add new items. Any fix for this?
[10:17] <ctrl__> how may i change my nic please. /nick is not working
[10:17] <thegladiator_> DJones, the most basic need with Android Ubuntu communication :)
[10:18] <pip__> anybody else experiencing a huge temp increase on AMD cards in 13.10?
[10:18] <Linuxuz3rttt> Kens giro try deleting some gnome folders
[10:18] <pip__> with open source drivers
[10:18] <DJones> thegladiator_: I use the Android app Airdroid for that, install on the phone & run it, it gives you a web address on your own internal routers network which you connect to using a web browser, click connect on the phone & thats about it
[10:18] <kenshiro> Linuxuz3rttt what folders?
[10:18] <Dark_light> How can I disable the default launcher's keybindings in unity ?
[10:19] <thegladiator_> i have airdroid installed
[10:19] <Linuxuz3rttt> .gconf I think
[10:19] <thegladiator_> let me try again
[10:19] <Linuxuz3rttt> Or .gconf2
[10:19] <kenshiro> Linuxuz3rttt ok I will try, thank you ! ;)
[10:19] <Linuxuz3rttt> Then relogin
[10:19] <kenshiro> ok !
[10:20] <thegladiator_> DJones, sigh , wonder why it didnt work before I tried ... plus wifi transfer never works .. I was thinking it would be some routing nonsense and I might have to study networking basics .... but no airdroid is working as expected thanks !
[10:20] <thegladiator_> "Wifi Transfer" the app I mean
[10:20] <DJones> thegladiator_: You're welcome
[10:21] <thegladiator_> do you use a air droid account for that?
[10:21] <thegladiator_> just curious , its offtopic perhaps
[10:21] <DJones> thegladiator_: No, don't think so, been a while since I installed it though
[10:21] <thegladiator_> right
[10:22] <usergwiel> ikonia: i tried every of my 3 disks, even though the mbr should be on the ssd (windows) . installed from usb-stick, maybe the installation collapses when i pull the usb stick out? but if i dont, the selection menu shows up again with try ubuntu w/o install, install ubuntu and OEM
[10:22] <ikonia> usergwiel: what device ID are you installing grub to from the installer ?
[10:23] <usergwiel> ikonia: i tried sda, sdb and sdc
[10:23] <ikonia> usergwiel: if you are booting from a usb stick, it can be common that you actually end up installing grub to the usb device
[10:23] <ikonia> usergwiel: what device is your boot device ?
[10:25] <usergwiel> ikonia: my first boot device is usb, as i usually install from a stick
[10:25] <ikonia> usergwiel: no, I mean what device in linux is your boot device in your bios,
[10:26] <usergwiel> ikonia: do you mean the "name" of the HDD i want to install linux on?
[10:26] <ikonia> usergwiel: what device is your machine booting from
[10:26] <ikonia> after the install
[10:27] <Linuxuz3rttt> Anyone on Ubuntu touch
[10:27] <usergwiel> ikonia: usb stick again (ubuntu installer needs to restart the system, as usual, but after reboot i just come again to the selection menu to choose "try ubuntu" and "install ubuntu"
[10:28] <ikonia> usergwiel: you're meant to take the usb stick out AFTER the install
[10:28] <ikonia> usergwiel: or it will continue to boot from it
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> !touch | Linuxuz3rttt
[10:29] <usergwiel> ikonia: thats what i did. after removing the usb from the pc, screen would stay black. so i pushed the reset button and windows booted w/o any selection
[10:29] <Linuxuz3rttt> Thx
[10:29] <ikonia> usergwiel: please try to understand what I'm asking - what device is set in the bios to be the default boot device
[10:30] <reisio> is there not an ordinary x86 image of touch one can play with?
[10:30] <usergwiel> ikonia: do you mean were my system is usually booting from?
[10:30] <ikonia> usergwiel: in the bios - you have a "default boot device" - what is it
[10:31] <meme> hi , is it correct that the new Ubuntu 13.10 download should only be 883 MB please ?
[10:31] <ikonia> meme: the size and checksums are listed on the ubuntu site
[10:32] <reisio> meme: around there, yup
[10:33] <usergwiel> ikonia: i dunno, i've just been into boot devices to set the order to search for bootloaders (first boot device, second boot ....) never saw the default boot device. where do i find it? (and do you know where to find it in uefi?)
[10:33] <ikonia> usergwiel: you need to work out then what device you are setting to be the default boot device in your bios
[10:33] <ikonia> usergwiel: then make sure grub goes on to that device
[10:33] <Plizzo> I had a power failure yesterday, and now I'm fearing one of my RAID5 discs have gone bad. Please read and help me. http://askubuntu.com/questions/361489/problem-with-mdadm-raid5-after-power-failure-disk-missing
[10:33] <DJones> meme: Different sizes for different versions http://mirror.umd.edu/ubuntu-iso/13.10/
[10:34] <ikonia> Plizzo: please don't cross-post your question across ubuntu channels
[10:34] <ikonia> Plizzo: if you need help just state the problem, if you've posted an askubuntu link, wait for the ask ubuntu people to help you,
[10:34] <usergwiel> ikonia: just to be sure: grub goes to that device i select to be "the bootloader installed to" in the installation screen?
[10:34] <meme> ok thank you ikonia
[10:34] <ikonia> usergwiel: yes
[10:34] <Plizzo> ikonia: Sorry, I figured different people were on different channels.
[10:35] <usergwiel> ikonia: am i right to put the bootloader onto sda, for example, and not to sda1?
[10:35] <ikonia> usergwiel: it should go onto a disk not a partition, so if sda is your boot drive, then yes, sda, not sda1
[10:35] <usergwiel> ikonia: well, thank you. gonna try it again ;-)
[10:43] <Kitar|st_> how do you run ubuntu as admin?
[10:43] <Kitar|st_> i want to copy something to usr/local
[10:43] <Kitar|st_> :|
[10:43] <lotuspsychje> Plizzo: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might know your issue
[10:43] <gordonjcp> !sudo | Kitar|st_
[10:43] <gordonjcp> Kitar|st_: why do you want to copy something to /usr/local?
[10:44] <Kitar|st_> because i can
[10:44] <Kitar|st_> .P
[10:44] <Kitar|st_> testing smomethin
[10:51] <cambiass1> !ciao
[10:51] <cambiass1> !list
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> !it | cambiass1
[10:52] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> why do they always do that... ;)
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: hi mate
[10:52] <BluesKaj> hi lotuspsychje
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> Dr_Willis: maybe he recognizes you as a bot :p
[10:53] <dro> hi everybody
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> we shhould start sending them iso torrents ;)
[10:53] <Plizzo> lotuspsychje: I tried, but I'm not getting any feedback. I really need to get my RAID back up, but I don't know whats wrong 100% :(
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> Dr_Willis: cool idea! bots with latest ubuntu on
[10:54] <dro> I've just installed ubuntu 13.10 and64, and I have no button on the top with my name, to logout, change user, etc.... any idea ?
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> Plizzo: re-ask your issue here once in a while, im sure someone might solve it for you
[10:54] <Plizzo> lotuspsychje: Yeah, might, thank yoy
[10:54] <Plizzo> you*
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> dro:  a clean new install?
[10:55] <dro> Dr_Willis, a brand new install
[10:55] <dro> just installed xchat :)
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> Plizzo: ##hardware channel might also know raid issues maybe?
[10:56] <Plizzo> lotuspsychje: They might, but the RAID is software based
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> !raid | Plizzo
[10:56] <routable> Anyone want to contribute to my VPS project?
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> routable: this is an ubuntu support channel mate
[10:57] <lotuspsychje> Plizzo: maybe the package testdisk might scan your hd's aswell to see if one is dead or not
[10:57] <zeer0> I've updated to 13.10 and my Traktor Audio USB sound card no longer works as output although it shows when using the lsusb. Does anyone know a way to get it back up?
[10:57] <routable> sorry lotuspsychje
[10:57] <jonas___> i have a question regarding lightdm, how do i set lightdm to display my .face, with an encrypted home folder ?
[10:58] <jonas___> ?
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> perhaps save the face file outside of your encrypted home. (now how you go about doing that.. maybe tricky)
[10:58] <jonas___> Dr_Willis
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> jonas___:
[10:59] <jonas___> i can easly do that, but where do i set lightdm to grab the new lock ?
[10:59] <jonas___> location*
[10:59] <m3kk> Can someone help me with this IRC? NickServ is treating me really bad
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> !nickserv | m3kk
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> your users home is 'accessable' befor they login,. but  i think theres just some encrypted files there by default.
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> if it wants a .face file, perhaps put it in there with the encrypted files
[11:00] <jonas___> so you ŕ saying if i place my .face at /home/
[11:00] <jonas___> and not /home/user
[11:00] <jonas___> should work ?
[11:00] <Dr_Willis> No
[11:00] <jonas___> ?
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> Im saying put it in (as a differnt user/root) in your /home/youruser name when that user is NOT logged in. perhaps. OR reading up on some lightdm docs.. it seems it can get the info from other places.
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> zeer0: did you check your additional drivers?
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> not sure how much of the .face info here applies to ubuntu jonas___   https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LightDM
[11:02] <jonas___> let me take a look
[11:02] <jonas___> thanks
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> jonas___:  and the same issue can happen with the users wallpaper which lightdm can also use.. so it might apply here also --> https://answers.launchpad.net/variety/+faq/2271
[11:03] <zeer0> lotuspsychje: with the 13.04 it worked out of the box I don't know whether Native Instruments has linux drivers
[11:03] <przemek> hello gentelmans , do you know any good Linux programs to test HDD drivers - I'm using smartctl and hdparm to check errors and correct speed , do you know other programs?
[11:03] <jonas___> thats an easy one
[11:03] <A_Chatterjee> Hello gentlemen. I have Ubuntu 13.04 installed on my system, and for a while it is shown that my laptop's hard disk is going to fail soon. Using disk utility, I see that all tests are failing, and Uncorrectable sector count and write error rate tests have failed (only those two). Is there a way I can repair my hard disk?
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> If your home is not encrypted, place the wallpaper in ~/Pictures (directly inside it, not in a subfolder). Also make sure this folder is readbale by everyone.
[11:03] <jonas___> just recompile schemas with the new path outside home folder and it will display the background
[11:03] <jonas___> the face si another strory
[11:04] <reisio> A_Chatterjee: probably refers to hardware failure, so not likely
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> look at your home befor its decrypted (as a differnt user with sudo rights) and see whts there. I dont use encrypted homes so cant remeber the layout
[11:04] <jonas___> just found a work around
[11:04] <reisio> A_Chatterjee: that said it hasn't failed until it has
[11:04] <jonas___> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LightDM#The_.face_way
[11:04] <jonas___> /var/lib/AccountsService/users/$user
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | przemek
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> jonas___:  thats IF ubuntu uses that accountservice stuff
[11:05] <jonas___> Icon=/var/lib/AccountsService/icons/.face
[11:05] <jonas___> ehhehe
[11:05] <A_Chatterjee> reisio: I see, thanks. Well, maybe I will have to backup my data while there's still time left.
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> jonas___:  which is why i said that might not apply to ubuntu
[11:05] <reisio> A_Chatterjee: if you care about your data, you should back it up
[11:05] <jonas___> im using xubutu with mate DE
[11:05] <przemek> ubottu: thx sir
[11:05] <jonas___> its runing it
[11:05] <jonas___> :P
[11:05] <reisio> A_Chatterjee: whether your drive is supposedly failing already or not is irrelevant
[11:05] <reisio> if you care about the data, back it up
[11:05] <A_Chatterjee> reisio: Sure, will do it. Thanks
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> jonas___:  another hit -->   To solve this, we're going to need to read/write .face to a non-encrypted location. The best place for this is going to be /home/.ecryptfs/$USER.
[11:06] <[deXter]|> Hi all
[11:06] <[deXter]|> I'm unable to install Saucy for some reason - the installation is nearly done but it's now stuck at running post-installation trigger update-notifier-common. Any ideas?
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/426724
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> gdm has the same issue
[11:07] <jonas___> gdm as a cache /var/cache/gdm where it stores thumbnails
[11:07] <jonas___> lightdm has to be configurated i drm or so
[11:07] <jonas___> might be the same
[11:07] <jonas___> but the file has to be outside home folder
[11:07] <jonas___> :)
[11:07] <jonas___> let me try
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> whats odd.. i seem to recall eralier ubuntu releases having some sort of 'take the users picture' feature during install.. i havent seen that on 13.10  or else it saw i had no webcam so dident ask
[11:10] <jonas___> i dont recall it either
[11:10] <reisio> I do
[11:10] <reisio> 10.04 maybe
[11:11] <reisio> you'd definitely need a generic webcam, though
[11:11] <Dr_Willis> i just rember holding my dog up so it would take his picture. ;P
[11:11] <reisio> heh
[11:11] <reisio> naturally
[11:11] <[deXter]|> So, any ideas folks?
[11:11] <jonas___> lol
[11:11] <jonas___> http://picpaste.com/pics/Screenshot-gbOFKqHP.1382181070.png
[11:11] <jonas___> seems to be woring
[11:11] <jonas___> now i have to log out
[11:11] <Dr_Willis> ever try to get a cat to hold still to take its picture? ;)
[11:11] <jonas___> and log in
[11:11] <reisio> Dr_Willis: :p
[11:12] <reisio> have to distract them
[11:12] <jonas___> brb
[11:12] <jonas___> ill let you know if it worked
[11:13] <Anaki> hey guys
[11:13] <ikonia> Plizzo: look at the error on your sde disk - it's complaining that there is a gpt partition on it, it looks like that drive has been corrupted, simpley blank it and re-add it to the array
[11:13] <reisio> heyo
[11:13] <m3kk> Anyone tried gnome 3.10 ?
[11:13] <Anaki> How could I run iTunes or something similiar that really works on ubuntu?
[11:13] <reisio> m3kk: probably someone
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> Anaki:  use an alterantive.
[11:14] <reisio> Anaki: there's an alternative installed by default, IIRC
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> Anaki:  askubuntu.com mayhave suggestions also
[11:14] <jonas___> its a failure X)
[11:14] <reisio> rhythmbox, probs
[11:14] <Anaki> Hm, I will take a look, thanks so far, Ill stay here
[11:14] <Anaki> reisio, wich programm do u mean?
[11:14] <reisio> rhythmbox, IIRC
[11:14] <[deXter]|> Hmm, from some Googling it appears to be a wifi issue
[11:14] <lgp171188> I just installed saucy amd64 on my laptop and selected to auto-hide the unity menu bar. The trigger to show the menu bar is set to moving to the left side. But still when I move to the left, the menu bar doesn't appear. Only its shadow appears. How to fix this issue?
[11:15] <Anaki> rbox can do that?
[11:15] <[deXter]|> Guess I'll re-format and restart the installation without checking the option to download updates.
[11:15] <Anaki> very often i have the problem with alternatives that they copy my music at the iPod but after that, I cant find it on the iPod
[11:15] <reisio> Anaki: find?
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> Anaki: there's an itunes version in playonlinux if i remember correct
[11:16] <Plizzo> ikonia: The /dev/sde1 is tricky, and it's always been like that but still worked. The missing volume is /dev/sda1 and I just re-added the disk back to the array. Right now the RAID is in recovery, but I'm waiting for it to finish, which should take about 300 mins.
[11:16] <reisio> in the long run it'd be more worthwhile to replace your iPhoo with a less proprietary device that uses ordinary usb mass storage
[11:16] <Anaki> I have banshee installed. I will try rbox and banshee, thanks so far again
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> is that libmobiledevice still in use?
[11:17] <reisio> Anaki: one of those should suffice
[11:17] <mao_> i update the ubuntu13.10 today,  but  i found that the  ibus could not lool  on the  top..   did anyone  has  the  same  problem??
[11:18] <Arin> I have installed Lubuntu 13.10, but I have some weird issues. nVidia card is not found in the Software and Update app, and the desktop is acting weird.
[11:21] <Arin> I can find the card in PCI Devices, it is a GeForce GT 540M. I believe it is the open nVidia driver that is working now. If I try to make a window full screen in my external screen, it only coverst the top left part, but filling the whole screen on the laptop. The screen on the laptop seems to be capped, so I can not see the menu and other stuff there since it is hidden further down under the view feild of the screen.
[11:22] <jonas___> Dr_Willis
[11:22] <jonas___> got it working
[11:22] <jonas___> placed favce at /home/.face
[11:22] <jonas___> invoqued it from
[11:22] <jonas___> var/cache/lightdm/dmrc/$user.dmrc
[11:22] <jonas___> with
[11:22] <jonas___> [User]
[11:22] <jonas___> Icon=/home/face
[11:22] <FloodBot1> jonas___: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:22] <jonas___> Icon=/home/.face
[11:23] <jonas___> forgot to stop lightdm
[11:23] <jonas___> thats why was failing to loadit
[11:23] <jonas___> it works =)
[11:23] <izzby> salutare vreun roman pe aici?
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> !ro | izzby
[11:26] <swiss_girl> hey guys
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> Ladie: hi, what can we do for you girl?
[11:27] <malinus> why am I getting "#!/bin/bash: No such file or directory" in a simple echo bash file?
[11:28] <malinus> the echo does echo, though
[11:28] <izzby> multumesc ubottu
[11:28] <Guest83827> it's really irritating to have no linux running atm >.>
[11:28] <malinus> izzby, haha I tried to read that from right to left
[11:28] <[deXter]|> restarted the installation this time unchecking the install updates and looks like it's gone thru fine. Sigh, why is this option still buggy in the year 2013? ._.
[11:29] <Green_> Hello everyone
[11:29] <Guest83827> putty Ih2cmpwa!
[11:29] <Anaki> still the same problem: The music is now at my iPod, it also takes away the space (in GB) but in the music list from the iPod it dowsnt show  up
[11:29] <codeadi> Can someone confirm if they face this bug in Gnome System Monitor on Ubuntu 13.10: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-monitor/+bug/1241894
[11:30] <Green_> Okay, I have a problem with make. Shows this output: http://pastebin.com/Tegf57Gs
[11:30] <Guest83827> malinus could you paste your script to paste.ubuntu.com
[11:30] <malinus> Guest83827, haha, sure http://paste.ubuntu.com/6263168/
[11:31] <bekks> Guest83827: The error tells you whats wrong.
[11:31] <bekks> gna.
[11:31] <bekks> Green_: that one was for you.
[11:31] <Green_> bekks: When I do "sudo apt-get install binutils" it says it's already installed and updated. What now?
[11:32] <bekks> Green_: you dont have 32bit binutils, do you?
[11:32] <Green_> bekks: No idea. How do I check?
[11:33] <Guest83827> malinus, it works on my end :p
[11:33] <Guest83827> are there any empty lines?
[11:33] <malinus> yeah
[11:33] <Ladie> where are you from ?
[11:33] <bekks> Green_: dpkg -l binutils:i386
[11:33] <Guest83827> malinus how are you launching the file?
[11:34] <codeadi> Hi, anyone running Ubuntu 13.10?
[11:34] <malinus> Guest83827, just ./file
[11:34] <Guest83827> codeadi maybe from tonight on ;P
[11:34] <Ladie> where are you everybody from??
[11:34] <Green_> bekks:No package found
[11:35] <bekks> Green_: Then you do not have 32bit binutils.
[11:35] <codeadi> Guest83827, I am facing this bug in System Monitor on 13.10, if someone could confirm that would be great:
[11:35] <codeadi> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-monitor/+bug/1241894
[11:35] <Guest83827> malinus only thing i can think of is the charset
[11:35] <Green_> bekks: But why would I need it anyway? I have 64-bit structure
[11:36] <bekks> Green_: I dont know what you are compiling there.
[11:36] <Green_> bekks: A driver for my wifi card
[11:36] <bekks> Green_: Then maybe it requires 32bit binutils.
[11:36] <Gycklarn> malinus, just to be sure, does "/bin/bash" exist?
[11:37] <Green_> bekks: I'll try. I have to reboot since my connecion dropped :/
[11:37] <malinus> Gycklarn, yes it sure does
[11:37] <bekks> Green_: You are still here?
[11:37] <bekks> Green_: Why do you need to reboot then?
[11:38] <malinus> Gycklarn, here is the "full log" http://pastebin.com/pc6qXRuK
[11:38] <Ladie> this chat is a bit boring i think
[11:38] <Gycklarn> malinus, It's the exclamation mark.
[11:38] <Ladie> like minecraft
[11:38] <Gycklarn> Remove the exclamation mark and it'll work
[11:38] <Green_> bekks: I'm with the laptop. The connection dropped in the desktop PC because of the wifi card.
[11:38] <Gycklarn> in the echo line, that is
[11:38] <bekks> Green_: Then use a cable ;)
[11:38] <Green_> bekks: That's why I'm trying to install the drivers
[11:39] <Gycklarn> malinus, Either that, or switch the double quotation marks to single quotation marks
[11:39] <Green_> bekks: The desktop PC is a room away from the router
[11:39] <brunot> hello, I upgraded yesterday to kubuntu 13.10 from 13.04, and now firefox and thunderbird won't start
[11:39] <brunot> I get the following error : GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed
[11:39] <bekks> Green_: I'd suggest investigating the issue and not compiling stuff ;)
[11:39] <brunot> no window appears, and nothing more happens
[11:40] <Green_> beeks: Well, I posted in ubuntuforums, but I'm not getting answers. So i'll try to install the drivers that came with the card first
[11:40] <malinus> Gycklarn, neither works. I keep getting the error
[11:41] <malinus> Gycklarn, also I don't think it has anything to do with the command line, but the first "shebang"
[11:42] <Gycklarn> Well in that case, I'm out of ideas.
[11:42] <Green_> beeks: And now I can't install binutils for 32 bits because I can't connect to the Internet. Fuck.
[11:42] <Ladie> hahaaaaa
[11:45] <Guest67373> hello i need help
[11:45] <Ladie> whats app?
[11:45] <Guest83827> malinus could you enter this line to chekc the encoding of your script: file -b --mime-encoding filename
[11:45] <lgp171188_> On my saucy install I find that a lot of times clicking the title bar of a window and trying to move it by dragging doesn't work. What could be the issue and how to fix it?
[11:46] <Guest67373> i have intel hd 4000 on laptop but it don't work on ubuntu 13.10
[11:46] <pip__> has anybody else had a big temp rise with amd graphics in saucy?
[11:46] <pip__> 20 degrees or so on open source drivers
[11:47]  * cfhowlett ... tahr?
[11:48] <Green_> I need help here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2181629
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> Green_: did you try if WEP has same issue?
[11:50] <Green_> lotuspsychje: You mean logging into the router and select WEP password right?
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> Green_: yes
[11:50] <Green_> lotuspsychje: I'll try now
[11:51] <malinus> Guest83827, it's utf-8
[11:51] <Guest83827> malinus try changing it to us-ascii
[11:51] <Guest83827> what editor are you using?
[11:52] <jayzio> http://leekspin.com/
[11:52] <jayzio> http://leekspin.com/
[11:52] <cfhowlett> !spam|jayzio,
[11:52] <jayzio> cfhowlett: http://meatspin.com/
[11:53] <Rory> !op | jayzio posting porn
[11:53] <sylvan-caecili> hello, I'm trying to get bumblebee up and running on my new Ascer Aspire V5-573G with fresh installed kubuntu 13.10, it has a nvidia GeForce GT750M. I installed bumblebee and nvidia-319 through apt-get. after a restart I tried optirun xeyes and got the following result: http://pastebin.com/ewv9tN2K . my uname -a Linux caecili 3.11.0-12-generic #19-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 9 16:20:46 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[11:58] <craigbass1976> How do I export my current display ( :0 ) over vnc?  I had a teamviewer session, someone messed it up, and I can't get back in.  I can start up vncserver and viewer, but it's not looking at the current display, only fires up a new one.
[12:00] <liquidmetal> does anyone here use supervisord for controlling web servers?
[12:00] <Mindiell> liquidmetal: ask your question it's faster ;o)
[12:01] <liquidmetal> Mindiell, I'm curious where your host the supervisord web interface... is it on the same website? how do you password-control that location?
[12:02] <Mindiell> liquidmetal: Hmm, in fact I control web sites with supervisor, but I'm not controlling supervisor via a web site
[12:03] <liquidmetal> Mindiell, is it the cli you use then?
[12:04] <Mindiell> liquidmetal: I use supervisor... I set a coonfig file for each web server to start (using gunicorn, nginx, and python)
[12:04] <liquidmetal> Mindiell, how do you go about checking if everything's working as expected?
[12:05] <Mindiell> liquidmetal: Well, I do not. The gunicorn command starts the web server. I could go on the web site, or verify some logs maybe
[12:07] <Mindiell> liquidmetal: What do you want to check exactly ? If the command has been launched ? If the server is available ?
[12:07] <liquidmetal> yup..
[12:08] <liquidmetal> I'm launching commands that do bg jobs... so checking if they're running by visiting a website wouldn't work
[12:09] <Mindiell> liquidmetal: you can use "supervisorctl status" command
[12:09] <kalaka> hello everyone
[12:09] <liquidmetal> liquidmetal, true... but I was hoping for a gui
[12:09] <Mindiell> liquidmetal: it will show you all process running under supervisor control
[12:10] <Mindiell> is it so difficult ? You want to check it automatically ?
[12:10] <Mindiell> launch a bg command sending you an email of the result of the status command ;o)
[12:13] <kalaka> i want to copy all my settings, tweaks for new user, but i am having a problem, i copied my home directory files, many files , i am not aware of, to /etc/skel but there is one problem, the problem is that it is also copying some privileges that are associated with my account and when new user log in it pop up error messages, 11 windows, popup one by one, which are related to neopmuk and akonaditray, i am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[12:13] <kalaka> it happens with every new user created
[12:13] <jrib> !permissions | kalaka
[12:13] <kalaka> any idea, how to solve that
[12:13] <jrib> kalaka: you must chown the files to your new user
[12:14] <kalaka> what should be file permission to /etc/skel/ contents
[12:14] <mrkent> Hey, has anyone had success installing ubuntu on Dell XPS 8700 desktop?
[12:14] <jrib> kalaka: you shouldn't be changing those.  Did you change them?
[12:15] <kalaka> no , i didn't change them
[12:15] <jrib> kalaka: the files in /etc/skel are owned by root and are 644, but it's not relevant to your issue
[12:15] <kalaka> but i copied my home directory, many files, many hidden files also, except skype etc
[12:15] <jrib> kalaka: you must chown the files to your new user
[12:16] <cfhowlett> !anyone|mrkent,
[12:16] <Hackwar> hi folks, I got an HP N54L and I'm trying to install Ubuntu Server and use it among other things as a NAS. My problem is, that I'm forced to use WLAN, since the layout of my apartment does not allow a wire-connection. Anyway, iwconfig says that I have a wlan0 and now I wanna know how I can input my WLAN key and the SSID. I've searched a bit already, but somehow I'm confused
[12:16] <Hackwar> help please. ;-)
[12:16] <mrkent> How can I successfully install ubuntu on Dell XPS 8700 desktop?
[12:16] <w-flo> any idea how I can fix empty chromium tab titles when using fglrx/catalyst? I get this since I upgraded to saucy yesterday. Works fine when using the r600g open source driver.
[12:17] <wilee-nilee> mrkent, Have you tried?
[12:17] <kalaka> let me show you the desktop screenshot, to assist me better, wait, a few moments
[12:17] <mrkent> wilee-nilee, yes
[12:18] <wilee-nilee> mrkent, Then give the details of the problem, thats how it works here.
[12:18] <mrkent> I tried following some generic directions on the docs, but I cannot dual boot
[12:18] <mrkent> If I use UEFI, it's windows, legacy can maybe boot ubuntu
[12:18] <mrkent> i forget
[12:19] <max3> can someone tell me how in a virtual memory management system that uses paging references to address outside of the address space of the process are handled?
[12:19] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | mrkent
[12:19] <wilee-nilee> mrkent, more uefi, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[12:20] <sylvan-caecili> does anyone know how to check if the used kernel has CONFIG_DRM enabled? I have a fresh install of 13.10 with kernel  3.11.0-12-generic
[12:24] <w-flo> sylvan-caecili, $ cat /boot/config-3.11.0-12-generic | grep CONFIG_DRM=         => CONFIG_DRM=m
[12:25] <sylvan-caecili> m is enabled?
[12:25] <w-flo> sylvan-caecili, m is for module AFAIK, so it's built as a module
[12:25] <sylvan-caecili> thx
[12:28] <bingo> is there much of a resource usage difference between XFCE and XUbuntu?
[12:28] <cfhowlett> bingo, xfce is the desktop environment of xubuntu. question makes no sense.
[12:29] <marlo> i've got this problem after 13.10 upgrade; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1238194
[12:29] <sylvan-caecili> I'm trying to get bumblebee for my Geforce GT750M running and on http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/nvidia-releases-linux-graphics-drivers.html the dependencies xrandr >= 1.4, Xorg >= 1.13 and the CONFIG_DRM enabled were listed. All of them are met in 13.10 but i cant get it bumblebee to start. it always complains with http://paste.ubuntu.com/6263467/
[12:29] <marlo> i managed to boot from another drive, and managed to get mounted my encrypted partition
[12:29] <marlo> not sure what to do next
[12:29] <marlo> to fix
[12:29] <bingo> cfhowlett, ty. so am i correct then to say that Xubuntu or XFCE use less resources than Ubuntu with its flashy ways?
[12:30] <cfhowlett> bingo, you would indeed be correct.  :)
[12:30] <shiliuping> +
[12:30] <bingo> cfhowlett, ty
[12:30] <cfhowlett> bingo, have fun, be safe
[12:32] <kalaka> where to paste ubuntu image
[12:32] <cfhowlett> !paste|kalaka,
[12:32] <marlo> i have mounted my broken root partition, from another boot environment, how do i chroot into that bad partition so that i can run update-initramfs on it?
[12:33] <HypnotiX> Hello, i installed ubuntu server 12.04 and it will only boot after i restart the pc, at power on i get the error: out of disk
[12:34] <marlo> HypnotiX, not sure i follow you, does it boot or not?
[12:34] <HypnotiX> it boots only after i restart the pc
[12:34] <marlo> but it says out of disk?
[12:34] <marlo> when?
[12:34] <HypnotiX> when i first turn on the pc
[12:35] <marlo> so, you turn on power, it says out of disk, then it boots?
[12:35] <HypnotiX> after i get the error if i soft reboot with ctrl alt del it works
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> what's the difference between power-on, reboot and restart?
[12:35] <HypnotiX> power-on i hit the button on the case, reboot is hit ctrl alt del :)
[12:36] <marlo> where/when does it report out of disk?
[12:36] <MonkeyDust> HypnotiX  a cold and a warm reboot, that is
[12:36] <HypnotiX> MonkeyDust: yeah ok sry
[12:37] <HypnotiX> right after a cold boot i get the error
[12:37] <malinus> shouldn't .profile be executed each time I open up my terminal?
[12:37] <marlo> HypnotiX, are you out of disk or is it a bad message
[12:37] <hitsujiTMO> Hyperbyte: kinda sounds like the disk isn't spinning up fast enough
[12:38] <HypnotiX> how can i be out of disk if after a warm reboot it works
[12:38] <hitsujiTMO> Hyperbyte: ^
[12:38] <marlo> hitsujiTMO, how can it boot if the disk isn't spinning?
[12:38] <HypnotiX> its a new sata hdd
[12:39] <marlo> HypnotiX, i'm thinking bad disk (even though it's new)
[12:39] <HypnotiX> hmm yeah could be
[12:39] <hitsujiTMO> hdd disks need to spin up before they'll register to the bios ... if its not showing on a cold boot then its prob not spinning up fast enough to register in time. hence why is shows up on the reboot
[12:40] <HypnotiX> i see
[12:40] <marlo> yes, but he says he's booting, but it's reporting that it's out of space
[12:40] <marlo> what i'm wondering is ~when~ does it report its out of space
[12:40] <ciencisto> Hello! I'd like to know, does the Gmail Firefox webapp work for you in 13.10?
[12:40] <HypnotiX> the bios detects it on the cold boot
[12:41] <marlo> and certainly, if it's not spinning up fast enough then it most definately has a problem
[12:41] <hitsujiTMO> marlo: <HypnotiX> at power on i get the error: out of disk <HypnotiX> it boots only after i restart the pc
[12:41] <ssj5goku> i cant figure out how to see the shared folders on my network from other pc's running on windows... can someone help
[12:42] <hitsujiTMO> Hyperbyte: but yeah, send that hdd back. what brand is it?
[12:42] <marlo> hitsujiTMO, yea, but what is reporting 'out of disk' that sounds like a booted disk and the OS is reporting it's out of disk... space?
[12:42] <hitsujiTMO> HypnotiX: ^
[12:42] <ciencisto> ssj5goku: This? http://www.7tutorials.com/how-access-windows-7-shared-folders-ubuntu
[12:42] <HypnotiX> seagate
[12:43] <marlo> HypnotiX, what is reporting 'out of disk' is that from the BIOS?
[12:44] <HypnotiX> yes
[12:44] <marlo> HypnotiX, is it anything like this; http://askubuntu.com/questions/173086/out-of-disk-but-still-boots
[12:46] <hitsujiTMO> marlo: sorry you're right, out of disk is a grub error ... i was thinking it was the bios
[12:46] <marlo> i've just never heard of anything like that from bios
[12:46] <Gordio> 13.10 have more bugs with keyboard.
[12:47] <marlo> Gordio, like this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1238194
[12:47] <HypnotiX> ok marlo thanx i will try
[12:47] <Gordio> 1. Cant assign "change layout".
[12:47] <marlo> oh
[12:47] <marlo> well, i need help with that link, i literally can't boot from that partition anymore after 13.10 upgrade
[12:47] <Gordio> 2. In keyboard hotkeys some keys don't understand.
[12:47] <Gordio> 3. In keyb. hotkeys can't delete assign.
[12:48] <Gordio> 4. Can't use Capslock for change keyboard... etc...
[12:48] <BrianH_> Aonyone else having problems with the server install not making it past "Select a language" when booting from the CD?
[12:48] <antithesis> I've got a file that contains text. It's a binary file, but the text is _almost_ readable, it just contains some weird characters / it has character encoding. Does anyone know how to convert it to plain text? The file I'm talking about is ~/.local/share/parcellite/history, my clipboard manager's history.
[12:49] <Gordio> 0. In statusbar keyboard layout use white color, but if using "Radiance" Theme - need black color! Can't see layout :P
[12:49] <xtriz> i am running vsftpd , but don't know why i can resolve it when entering my www.domain.com but gets resolve when using local address i.e. 10.10.10.10
[12:49] <marlo> i managed to mount my encrypted partition, i need to run update-initramfs on it, can someone steer me towards a chroot step-by to do that?
[12:50] <Gordio> marlo, you can't type password?
[12:50] <marlo> nope
[12:50] <marlo> keyboard 'dies'
[12:50] <marlo> no caps-lock light
[12:50] <marlo> no back-light
[12:50] <Gordio> Need waint Ubuntu 13.04.1 :D
[12:51] <marlo> ?
[12:51] <Gordio> Desktop?
[12:51] <myrti> 
[12:51] <Gordio> Maybe try other keyboard?
[12:51] <myrti> !uefi
[12:51] <BrianH_> marlo: Interesting.  The same thing happens when you reach "Select a language" on the 13.10 server install.  It becomes completely unresponsive.
[12:51] <marlo> Gordio, done that already
[12:52] <BrianH_> marlo: Do you have a PS2 keyboard?
[12:52] <marlo> tried another keyboard, tried un/plug everything
[12:52] <Gordio> marlo, but this sad. I hope you find sollution.
[12:52] <marlo> BrianH_, i have many... just no port on this machine!
[12:52] <jackbrown> hi there ? COuld anyone check my xorg.conf ? I'm unable to change res and I'm stuck in 640x480 thanks
[12:52] <sylvan-caecili> anyone knows what this error message means? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6263563/ and how i can fix it?
[12:53] <BrianH_> marlo: Ah, yeah I don't have a port on mine either.  I read online that a PS2 keyboard would work.
[12:53] <marlo> i have a solution, i have updated /etc/initramfs and now i'm supposed to chroot on to that partition to run update-initramfs on it... not sure how to do that (just yet)
[12:54] <marlo> (i shouldn't have upgraded, i always get bit)
[12:54] <BrianH_> Is there any good documentation on creating an unattended installation disc?
[12:54] <xtriz> i am running vsftpd , but don't know why i can resolve it when entering my www.domain.com but gets resolve when using local address i.e. 10.10.10.10
[12:55] <hitsujiTMO> BrianH_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/122505/how-do-i-create-completely-unattended-install-for-ubuntu
[12:57] <BrianH_> hitsujiTMO: I can't get kickstart to work.  When I try running system-config-kickstart, it spits out a traceback with "AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'ParseTagFile'
[12:58] <Guest6740> thinks are getting serious
[12:58] <Guest6740> i'm about to install ubuntu :O
[12:58] <Braden`> Hello
[12:59] <BrianH_> Looks like a confirmed bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/system-config-kickstart/+bug/1236315
[12:59] <Braden`> I created a file that is world readable and executable in /etc/cron.hourly, but it always fails to execute if left to cron.  If I execute it manually (as root), it works without a problem.
[12:59] <Braden`> What can I do to fix that?
[13:00] <hitsujiTMO> BrianH_: sorry, thats a known bug in 13.10 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/system-config-kickstart/+bug/1236315
[13:01] <gioele> will there be alternate CD images for 13.10? All I see are desktop and server images. I need the alternative images for the expert setup option
[13:01] <logic_prog> I have emacs 24.2 I need 24.3 in order to use M-x profiler-start / profiler-report . I'm on ubuntu 13.04. What is the best way to install emacs? From source ?
[13:01] <BrianH> gioele: Expert setup is listed in the boot menu options now.
[13:01] <marlo> alright, i'm going in for reboot... let's hope this works!
[13:01] <kalaka> i want to remove akonaditray and nepomuk backup
[13:02] <kalaka> how to remove safely
[13:02] <hitsujiTMO> Braden`: ho exactly have you added it to the crontab?
[13:02] <bingo> is there a sudo command I can use to like get highest privileges ?
[13:02] <gioele> BrianH: boot options of what? also of the desktop cd?
[13:02] <kalaka> when i try to remove them, i got i will have to uninstall kde calender, mail etc
[13:02] <kalaka> and runtime for KDE
[13:02] <kalaka> i want to live with KDE
[13:02] <kalaka> IS THERE any way to remove them
[13:03] <kalaka> or to stop them from runnig
[13:03] <Guest6740> ok guys, quick check: I'm installing 13.10 on a uefi system. First time for me with uefi and I want to keep win8 on the side. So I freed up some space about 50GB to install it on, however the installer doesn't see the free space and wants to format the entire drive. Now I have to set up the partitions manually.. So: Swap is still needed, right? With the limited space I have splitting OS and pesonal files is probably not so good 
[13:03] <BrianH> gioele: I know it's on the boot menu of the server disk.  You can change the mode to expert.
[13:03] <gioele> BrianH: thanks
[13:04] <Guest6740> what about logical and extended partitions in uefi? Is that something i ened to worry about at all?
[13:04] <Braden`> I created a file that is world readable and executable in /etc/cron.hourly, but it always fails to execute if left to cron.  If I execute it manually (as root), it works without a problem.
[13:04] <Braden`> What can I do to fix that?
[13:05] <hitsujiTMO> Braden`: how exactly have you added it to the crontab?
[13:07] <Braden`> hitsujiTMO:  Just created a file in that directory
[13:07] <hitsujiTMO> Braden`: what user do you want to run the cron job as?
[13:07] <RishabhTatiraju> thanks for the support a few hours back, Ubuntu running well
[13:08] <RishabhTatiraju> only thing is i didnt get an update notif for Saucy yet
[13:08] <marlo> no joy
[13:08] <Braden`> 17 *    * * *   root    cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly
[13:08] <Braden`> That is what is in crontab
[13:09] <Braden`> mysql -u shoutbox --password='somepass' -h localhost -D db -e "DELETE FROM shouts WHERE message LIKE '%url%'"
[13:09] <Braden`> That is in the file in my cron.hourly folder
[13:09] <Braden`> directory
[13:10] <bigdaddy> hi, could i get help installing ethernet drivers? atheros ar8151 v1.0 gigabit ethernet, ubuntu 12.10
[13:11] <Patero-ng> I need help
[13:12] <Patero-ng> please please tell me if I should use ubuntu 13.10 over 13.04 and if not why is netbootin crashing when installing ubuntu 13.04 live over a 16gb usb drive anyone has similar issue?
[13:12] <Guest6740> is swap on an ssd a bad idea?
[13:13] <compdoc> Guest6740, no, its fine
[13:13] <yeats> Braden`: maybe wrong permissions somewhere?
[13:13] <Guest6740> i have 4gb of RAM do I need a swap partition? I've been reading it wears down SSDs quickly :s
[13:13] <marlo> Patero-ng, i can only tell you i'm having big problems with 13.10
[13:13] <DeluxGhost> Is 13.10 released?
[13:14] <Guest6740> compdoc  it's also a space issue obviously
[13:14] <SunTsu> Guest6740: whether you need a swap partition depends on what you do with your box and how much ram you need for that
[13:14] <yeats> Guest6740: I think most recommend against a swap partition on ssd
[13:14] <compdoc> Guest6740, you should have some swap, and swap isnt used much anyway, so its not an issue. but when swap is needed, having it on the fastest drive possible is the best way to go
[13:14]  * yeats runs 2 stations fine with SDDs and no swap
[13:14] <Patero-ng> marlo so I should stick with 13.04
[13:15] <Guest6740> compdoc do you know what would happen if I run out of RAM and have no swap partition?
[13:15] <bingo> hello. What do i install to edit the default OS to boot into at startup?
[13:15] <yeats> Patero-ng: 13.04 is only supported for 3 more months, so go with either 12.04 or 13.10
[13:15] <compdoc> Guest6740, no, I have alswys had swap partitions
[13:15] <Guest6740> I have an old system with 4GB of RAM and recall it only using swap once or twice when running multiple VMs or similar fun
[13:15] <SunTsu> Guest6740: OOM killer - the system starts killing processes randomly
[13:16] <hitsujiTMO> Guest6740: the BEST place to put a swap on is an ssd, but if you're using the swap often, then you should upgrade your ram
[13:16] <Guest6740> and for hibernate to work, swap would need to be the same size as the RAM
[13:16] <compdoc> Guest6740, see? having swap on an ssd thats almost never used makes little difference to the ssd
[13:17] <Guest6740> yeah, point taken. It just comes out of the 50GB of diskspace i have.. i guess i'm gonna start with having swap.. Do you guys have a tool that tracks swap-usage.. that way i could check after a month or three if the swap is needed or not
[13:18] <atreliu> ciao a tutti
[13:18] <yeats> !it | atreliu
[13:18] <atreliu> ok sorry
[13:19] <hitsujiTMO> guest6740 do not run the os without a swap, if you run out of ram, it will come to a crashing halt
[13:19] <marlo> Patero-ng, not sure what your needs are, if you have a 'test' box that you can fiddle with, then try 13.10, otherwise i've had very few problems with 13.04
[13:19] <Patero-ng> I have a usb 16gb drive and I using netbootin only allows me to use 9999mb as free space on a live instalation is there anyway I can up it to 14000mb to make full use of my drive
[13:20] <marlo> right now i'm just trying to get my upgraded 13.04 to 13.10 to boot
[13:20] <w-flo> chromium+fglrx is broken on 13.10. other than that, things seem to work for me. (something crashes on startup, but it's something I don't need or it restarts itself apparently)
[13:20] <Patero-ng> is not like it's a 8gb drive
[13:21] <Guest6740> here we gi
[13:21] <Guest6740> go even
[13:21] <yeats> marlo: is this the issue where full-disk encryption fails to boot? - I saw that too (in my case, I decided to live without encryption for now)
[13:23] <happy> ciao
[13:23] <happy> !list
[13:23] <marlo> yeats, i thought i'd 'try' it, now i'm regretting it, but now i know
[13:23] <Guest6740> i'm installing 13.10.. will let you know how that works out :p
[13:23] <yeats> marlo: I believe the issue is a mal-formed line in /etc/crypttab, but I didn't figure out what it needed to be :-/
[13:24] <marlo> that's exactly where i'm now stuck!
[13:24] <marlo> i'm getting 'invalid line' in crypttab
[13:24] <marlo> googling like a maniac
[13:26] <HypnotiX> marlo: thanx m8 it worked
[13:27] <marlo> HypnotiX, outstanding!
[13:27] <yeats> marlo: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=74232#p471425 looks like a pretty good clue
[13:28] <marlo> yeats, thanks, i looked at crypttab and i see a big ass ID in there and figured it was something like a bad number
[13:29] <marlo> i'm just hoping now 13.10 works at all if i'm able to get it booted
[13:35] <Guest6740> well.... that didn't go quite that flawlessly
[13:35] <Guest6740> lol
[13:35] <yeats> marlo: that's the UUID for something
[13:35] <yeats> marlo: you should see it in /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[13:35] <Braden`> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 142 Oct 15 13:41 shoutboxCleanup.sh  <-- That is the permissions
[13:36] <yeats> marlo: actually 'sudo blkid' will tell you which is which
[13:38] <Guest6740> hmm, i need some advice.. so i installed ubuntu according to the trial& error method here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI But ubuntu doesn't load. I get a grub-command line instead.
[13:38] <Guest6740> The guide says to run bootrepair if it boots to windows straight away or doesn't boot windows at all
[13:39] <sasmit87> Hi I have a serious issue
[13:39] <Guest6740> should I run bootrepair as well, even though I have not the same problem? Is it a universal fix or is it one specific to the bugs described?
[13:40] <Patero-ng> netbootin crashes always while setting persitance
[13:40] <Patero-ng> how to fix this so I can install a bootable drive
[13:41] <bamphomet> Patero-ng have you tried the "dd" command
[13:41] <Patero-ng> is a gui
[13:41] <Patero-ng> oh
[13:42] <Patero-ng> I have no other linux install
[13:42] <hitsujiTMO> Patero-ng: have you tried a different usb? could be crashing due to an uncaught write error
[13:42] <Patero-ng> this is the only usb I have available
[13:42] <hitsujiTMO> Patero-ng: what os are you on now?
[13:42] <sasmit87> everytime I boot my system my usb modem does not get connected to internet and I have to run these command manually to start     cd /etc/usb_modeswitch.d    sudo gedit 12d1:1505     sudo usb_modeswitch -I -W -c 12d1:1505
[13:42] <Patero-ng> windows 7 :D
[13:42] <JohnSmith> dear masters, I've just wanted to save my installed packages with these commands: $ sudo apt-get install dpkg-repack fakeroot $ mkdir ~/dpkg-repack; cd ~/dpkg-repack $ fakeroot -u dpkg-repack `dpkg --get-selections | grep install | cut -f1` but because I removed some applications I get this message:  $ sudo apt-get install dpkg-repack fakeroot $ mkdir ~/dpkg-repack; cd ~/dpkg-repack $ fakeroot -u dpkg-repack `dpkg --get-selections | 
[13:42] <sasmit87> why so ??
[13:43] <hitsujiTMO> Patero-ng: try http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[13:43] <JohnSmith> Soory i get this message: dpkg-repack: Fatal Error: Package abiword not fully installed. How can i fix this?
[13:44] <m11kkaa> Hi, I suddenly hear a constant audio noise(when nothing is playing) on ubuntu 13.10. It started happening when I installed wine but dunno if it's related to that. If I restart pulseaudio with pulseaudio -k it's ok until specific programs like skype try to play sth(vlc is ok)
[13:44] <m11kkaa> any solution?
[13:44] <sasmit87> any solution for this ......   everytime I boot my system my usb modem does not get connected to internet and I have to run these command manually to start cd /etc/usb_modeswitch.d sudo gedit 12d1:1505 sudo usb_modeswitch -I -W -c 12d1:1505
[13:46] <designbybeck> New install of 13.10, Trying to get my nvidia card working. I tried to do this: sudo apt-get purge bumblebee* bbswitch-dkms && sudo apt-get install nvidia-319 nvidia-settings-319 nvidia-prime When I restart I here the login sound, but the screen is all jumbled. I can still login and see there is stuff on the sscreen. I switched to another terminal
[13:46] <designbybeck> and remove those things and it returns to normal mode, but without NVIDIA
[13:46] <|R> nvidia here on a desktop won't even load the kernel module, I'm confused
[13:47] <Kleinemeid12_> seeeeeeeh dushiiiii
[13:48] <Kleinemeid12_> Hows everyone doing?
[13:48] <BluesKaj> designbybeck. not sure if this applies to your setup , http://askubuntu.com/questions/288581/how-to-install-nvidia-319-12-driver-on-an-optimus-system
[13:49] <|R> lsmod|grep -i ^n -> nothing.  then modprobe nvidia -> libkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod-module.c:791 kmod_module_insert_module: could not find module by name='nvidia_319_updates'  ..  ERROR: could not insert 'nvidia_319_updates': Function not implemented ... any idea? :)
[13:49] <yeats> Patero-ng: you might look into pendrivelinux (http://www.pendrivelinux.com/) - someone here said that it worked better for them than unetbootin
[13:50] <yeats> JohnSmith: are you just trying to get a list of installed packages?
[13:51] <designbybeck> Hey BluesKaj! Thanks, I'm looking now
[13:51] <JohnSmith> well. I would make a full backup only from the packeges. Not just a list.
[13:51] <vanspeijk> press ( . )( . ) to get milk
[13:51] <Anaki> cya
[13:51] <yeats> !clone | JohnSmith - does this help?
[13:52] <Patero-ng> to everyone who has recommended me using other then netbootin I want to complain that the other methods don't allow persistance higher then 4500mb and I want to use at least 10gb for storage how can I do it?
[13:52] <bigdaddy> hi, could i get help installing ethernet drivers? atheros ar8151 v1.0 gigabit ethernet, ubuntu 12.10
[13:53] <vanspeijk> Your mum
[13:53] <l9> is it possible too mount my disk in two diffrent folders one with only read and the other with fullrights?
[13:53] <designbybeck> Ok BluesKaj I've got that installed, rebooting now
[13:53] <BluesKaj> jR , have you tried , sudo apt-get install nvidia-319 ?
[13:54] <vanspeijk> dytuf
[13:54] <yeats> Patero-ng: maybe file a bug with unetbootin?: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unetbootin
[13:54] <JohnSmith> What does these mean? !clone !automate? are these  faq links?
[13:54] <|R> BluesKaj: I did upgrade, tried both 304 and 319
[13:54] <yeats> JohnSmith: they're commands for ubottu - the channel bot
[13:54] <vanspeijk> change your name man
[13:54] <BluesKaj> jrib. which nvidia card ?
[13:54] <BluesKaj> oop jR ^
[13:54] <JohnSmith> !clone
[13:55] <|R> it's actually a pipe before the R :]
[13:55] <JohnSmith> I don't understand
[13:55] <|R> BluesKaj: GTX 460
[13:55] <vanspeijk> wietset is retard
[13:55] <MonkeyDust> vanspeijk  is a bot
[13:56] <|R> BluesKaj: strangely on that machine, everytime I upgraded I had to reinstall the driver, but this time it won't even load a kernel module
[13:56] <yeats> JohnSmith: are you trying to back up your installed packages for reinstallation, or are you trying to fix your broken dpkg/apt issue?
[13:56] <BluesKaj> |R. that card should  work fine with the 319
[13:56] <JohnSmith> For reinstallation on a fresly installed system
[13:57] <banaan> blub
[13:57] <JohnSmith> But I couldn't run the recommended commands because there are some uninstalled applicacions
[13:57] <|R> BluesKaj: Do you know what is the default 13.10 kernel? I'm on 3.5.0-28 but see a bunch of 3.8.0-* installed... maybe it's not building for that one?
[13:57] <bangjabley> !info dzen2
[13:57] <brotherBox> Hi people. You might remember me from yesterday when I bought a wifi stick for USB, a Sitecom N-150, also known as WL1100. I got it to work with the help of you guys, but now I again have a problem with it
[13:58] <hitsujiTMO> |R 13.10 uses 3.11
[13:58] <|R> hitsujiTMO: ok that's weird then, why did the upgrade not change that 8|
[13:58] <brotherBox> When I plug it into my USB port, its not listed in lsusb nor lspci. Its green light is lit and Windows recognizes a wifi device, but I don't want to mess around with drivers so I can't be sure it works. It worked this morning though
[13:59] <BluesKaj> |R. yup ,  3.11.0-12-generic here
[13:59] <JohnSmith> I wanted to use this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=819396 but I got this message after the last line:  dpkg-repack: Fatal Error: Package abiword not fully installed.
[13:59] <brotherBox> What could be going wrong here? Nothing in dmesg or syslog
[13:59] <|R> BluesKaj: ok that's a trail to follow...I'm installing that :)
[13:59] <hitsujiTMO> |R have you put linux-image-generic on hold?
[14:00] <fuorviatos> hello
[14:00] <BluesKaj> |R. have you been mucking about with different kernels other than the defaults ?
[14:00] <|R> hitsujiTMO: I don't think I did, that machine is just an HTPC, nothing special about it, my laptop upgraded just fine (though intel card!)
[14:01] <fuorviatos> I am on 12.04 with a hybrid intel/ati. I cannot find vgaswitcheroo
[14:01] <yeats> JohnSmith: try this?: 'dpkg -l | grep ii | cut -d' ' -f3 | tr '\n' ' ' | sed 's/^/sudo apt-get install /g' > reinstall'
[14:01] <|R> BluesKaj: I don't think so, it's just a machine that's been upgraded since uhm, 11.04 or some such... it basically just boots into a user where I use vlc :)
[14:01] <yeats> JohnSmith: that will create a file with 'sudo apt-get install <all of your installed packages'
[14:02] <BluesKaj> |R. ok , sounds like this pc ,,strange
[14:02] <sasmit87> any solution for this ...... everytime I boot my system my usb modem does not get connected to internet and I have to run these command manually to start cd /etc/usb_modeswitch.d sudo gedit 12d1:1505 sudo usb_modeswitch -I -W -c 12d1:1505
[14:02] <fuorviatos> bt-dw1703
[14:02] <zeer0> ALSA Traktor Audio USB Card problems after update to 13.04. No longer found in sound settings but works fine with Skype/VLC etc. where you can set the audio output. Alsamixer in terminal recognizes Traktor but when I change it: "This sound device does not have any controls." Any help thanks!
[14:02] <zeer0> ^13.10
[14:03] <|R> I'll go see how the reboot goes, brb (remote from upstair!)
[14:03] <Rory> zeer0: Try installing the package "pavucontrol" and runnning it, see if you can change levels etc from there
[14:03] <Dark_light> Who's the empathy maintainer?
[14:03] <zeer0> tried it but it isn't listed among output devices
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> Dark_light  in a terminal, type apt-cache show empathy to find out
[14:04]  * Woldemon hASD NASD PJ
[14:04] <Woldemon> noniiiiiin
[14:04]  * Woldemon on ihan snisti aivopää
[14:04] <Dark_light> MonkeyDust: it says ubuntu developers, can I talk about it in ubuntu-devel ?
[14:04] <Woldemon> snadinisti
[14:04] <Woldemon> snidsti
[14:04] <JohnSmith> I'll try
[14:05] <esing> hi
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> Dark_light  ask your question here
[14:05] <Dark_light> it's more of a request it needs these patches: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710363
[14:05] <Dark_light> or it won't login on facebook
[14:06] <fuorviatos> if i get rid of fglrx driver, will radeon driver be enabled by default?
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> Dark_light  look on launchpad, maybe it's been reported as a bug
[14:07] <Dark_light> MonkeyDust: it has but it's been marked as duplicated of another bug that I think has nothing to do with it, I posted in the duplicated but wanted to make sure whoever the maintainer is got notified asap since it's broken on a fresh 13.10 install
[14:07] <BluesKaj> zeer0. in the terminal gstreamer-properties , a dialog gui will appear if you have gnome-media installed , then after configuring a reboot may be in order
[14:08] <Dark_light> in the meantime I think nobody can add a facebook account
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> Dark_light  fair enough, but i guess the maintainers and developers determine what gets higher priorities
[14:09] <JohnSmith> yeast: Should it look like this?: http://pastebin.com/u6nUdZxV
[14:09] <JohnSmith> yeats: sorry
[14:09] <Dark_light> sure it's up to them, but this is/will affect pretty much anyone, hopefully it'll get patched soon enough
[14:10] <Continuum> #noob.fr
[14:11] <[deXter]|> Hi all, having issues booting the Ubuntu live USB on a Toshiba laptop with UEFI
[14:11] <[deXter]|> Secureboot is off, FastBoot is off
[14:11] <hitsujiTMO> [deXter]|: have you enabled legacy usb?
[14:12] <[deXter]|> hitsujiTMO, the legacy is only for keyboard and mice
[14:12] <esing> Since a few weeks when I watch a video (tried vlc, kaffeine, mplayer) there's always a line flickering. Iam using the "radeon" driver for my graphic card ati hd 7750.  The driver package is already preinstalled on ubuntu (xserver-xorg-video-ati). I have ubuntu 13.10 installed. I can exclude a hardware issue, because if I boot the same system in windows I don't have the flickering issue. If I pause the video I never see the flickering. It is only seen whe
[14:12] <esing> n playing the video This is the xorg.0.log http://ix.io/8BP
[14:12] <[deXter]|> When the system is booted from USB I get "grub> no such partition"
[14:13] <[deXter]|> hitsujiTMO, for the BIOS, there are two options - UEFI, and CSM boot, have tried both
[14:13] <hitsujiTMO> [deXter]: if you are getting a grub error then its booting the usb ... its a problem with the live usb itself
[14:13] <[deXter]|> I created the bootable usb using the startup manager in another Ubuntu 13.10 installation.. usb has been freshly formated
[14:14] <[deXter]|> hitsujiTMO, that usb boots fine on my non UEIF laptop (DELL)
[14:14] <brotherBox> What could it be if a wifi stick doesn't show up in lsusb but is obviously powered?
[14:14] <bigdaddy> hi, could i get help installing ethernet drivers? atheros ar8151 v1.0 gigabit ethernet, ubuntu 12.10
[14:14] <BrianH> Can someone link me the preseed cfg for 13.10?
[14:15] <zeer0> Blueskaj, I tried Gstreamer-properties when I test the pipeline "ALSA: Could not negotiate format"
[14:15] <[deXter]|> brotherBox, could be faulty data lines on the wifi stick .. just because it's powered doesn't mean the data is going thru.
[14:15] <brotherBox> [deXter], I bought it yesterday
[14:15] <[deXter]|> brotherBox, What's the make/model?
[14:15] <ultim8> Hi. Can anyone tell me with what software can i watch this movie in xubuntu?
[14:15] <spongebob58> hi all. just wondering if someone can help me with mounting a samba share from my win 7 pc so that it auto mounts on ubuntu startup. from what i can gather, i need to edit the fstab file, but the combinations dont seem to be working,
[14:15] <JohnSmith> yeats: Can you explain those commands, because Doesn't work
[14:15] <brotherBox> [deXter], its a Sitecom N-150, also known as WL1100
[14:15] <[deXter]|> ultim8, VLC Player
[14:16] <brotherBox> I tried a guide (http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/sitecom-wlan-stick-installieren/#post-5600242) in german to get it working, but it won't even show up in lsusb anymore
[14:17] <|R> BluesKaj: yep, that fixed it! 3.11 it is :)
[14:17] <Patero-ng> windows 3.11?
[14:17] <|R> Patero-ng: definitely ;)
[14:17] <Patero-ng> sucks
[14:17] <|R> haha
[14:17] <[deXter]|> |R, are you *the* [R] ?
[14:17] <BluesKaj> zeer0. does lsusb show the card
[14:18] <kostkon> Patero-ng, 3.11 kernel but yeah it was nicknamed "linux for workgroups" by linus ;)
[14:18] <flat_lander> I am trying to install 13.10 server via CD ISO. Keyboard works until I get to language selection, then craps out and I can't get any further. I have legacy USB enabled in BIOS. What am I doing wrong?
[14:18] <zeer0> blueskaj, yes it does - as does aplay
[14:18] <BluesKaj> |R. , good to hear
[14:18] <|R> [deXter]|: as in ℜ ? :P
[14:18] <azizLIGHTS> where can i find the 13.10 torrents
[14:18] <[deXter]|> brotherBox, Check this page, some people got it working http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2142034
[14:18] <|R> BluesKaj: no idea why I was still stuck on 3.5 :)
[14:19] <[deXter]|> |R, ℜ ? No, I meant [R]. Of ##linux fame. Of #fedora fame
[14:19] <|R> [deXter]|: I guess not, not much fame in those area here hehe :)
[14:19] <brotherBox> [deXter], I really want to avoid working with ndiswrapper. It just feels wrong. Anyway, that doesnt fix my problem. The stick worked, it just doesnt now
[14:19] <BluesKaj> zeer0. what does, cat /proc/asound/modules , show?
[14:20] <[deXter]|> brotherBox, Hmm, strange. have you tried a different USB port? How about a different distro or OS?
[14:20] <zeer0> blueskaj, 0 snd_hda_intel1 snd_usb_caiaq
[14:20] <|R> [deXter]|: ℜ <- the real numbers, what I'm trying to mimick with my ascii-only-nick ;)
[14:20] <BrianH> flat_lander: I have the same exact problem.  If you find a solution, I would LOVE to know.
[14:20] <BluesKaj> |R. were you doing updates and upgrades on the pc , and a monthly dist-upgrade ?
[14:21] <BrianH> flat_lander: I'm to the point now where I'm building a preseed file to host on my network and bypass the setup instructions to see if I can get past it.
[14:21] <flat_lander> BrianH I can install 13.04 no problem.
[14:21] <BrianH> flat_lander: Same here.  13.04 works, 13.10 will lock up at language selection.
[14:21] <spongebob58> hi all. just wondering if someone can help me with mounting a samba share from my win 7 pc so that it auto mounts on ubuntu startup. from what i can gather, i need to edit the fstab file, but the combinations dont seem to be working,
[14:21] <|R> BluesKaj: I was using the updater that checked everyday and maybe did some upgrade/dist-upgrade by hand a few times
[14:21] <BluesKaj> zeer0. what make of usb audio card is it , need to know to find the proper driver
[14:21] <[deXter]|> |R, Ah, that makes more sense. :)
[14:22] <liquidmetal> I have a process in upstart... I want to move it to supervisord
[14:22] <brotherBox> [deXter], I tried all two USB ports and I'm currently working on trying it in a live system. I tried another Ubuntu (12.04) and it didn't show up in lsusb there either.
[14:22] <liquidmetal> Are there any good articles/etc on that?
[14:22] <brotherBox> Which makes me really sad.
[14:22] <flat_lander> BrianH: Tempted to do distro update, but I fear it'll conk out my keyboard, and if I lose SSH or network, I'll be lost in space.
[14:22] <BrianH> flat_lander: Do you have a PS2 keyboard to try?  It seems to shutoff power to my USB keyboard and I don't have a PS2 port on my motherboard to test.
[14:22] <|R> [deXter]|: Yeah, except all my friend just read it as PipeR ;P
[14:22] <[deXter]|> brotherBox, Might be worth trying it on 13.10, because of the newer kernel
[14:22] <flat_lander> I don't have a PS2 keyboard.
[14:22] <zeer0> Blueskaj, Native Instruments Traktor AUDIO 2 HW
[14:23] <[deXter]|> |R, PipeR ? Nice :P
[14:23] <brotherBox> [deXter], can't. The CPU of this laptop doesnt support PAE
[14:23] <|R> [deXter]|: I can't deny I love bash haha ;)
[14:23] <azizLIGHTS> !torrents
[14:23] <azizLIGHTS> what about the multi one
[14:23]  * [deXter]| prefers zsh :)
[14:23] <brotherBox> I'm grasping for straws, my laptop is being send in for it to be repaired for three weeks now
[14:24] <BrianH> flat_lander: It's good to see that I'm not alone with this problem.  I've tried 3 disks, unetbootin, and even dd, just to make sure the ISO wasn't corrupted.
[14:24] <odium> I corrupted my system, by removing cups, and now gnome won't start through lightdm, which errors with DEBUG:  Seat: Can't find session 'ubuntu' - can anyone advise?
[14:24] <flat_lander> BrianH: Drives me crazy.
[14:24] <brotherBox> And I have that old laptop that has that messed up ethernet plug and only internet through usb
[14:24] <|R> hehe
[14:25] <BrianH> flat_lander: If you can find a preseed cfg for 13.10, you can automate the installation using it.
[14:25] <|R> [deXter]|: I just thought I'd stick to whatever was the default, like vim :P
[14:25] <flat_lander> BrianH: What motherboard do you have?
[14:25] <BrianH> flat_lander: It's a generic HP board I believe.
[14:25] <kostkon> odium, try reinstalling the ubuntu-desktop pacakge. but why remove cups?
[14:25] <|R> (that and fleeing csh)
[14:26] <BrianH> flat_lander: H-ALVORIX-RS880-uATX
[14:26] <odium> kostkon: I learned my lesson
[14:26] <kostkon> odium, sure you did :P
[14:26] <flat_lander> BrianH: Hmm. Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P here.
[14:26] <kostkon> odium, do you have access to the terminal or tty
[14:27] <kostkon> odium, if you do, just reinstall that metapacakge
[14:27] <|R> BluesKaj: hitsujiTMO : thanks again guys! I've got to run :-)
[14:27] <isasha> yop, just wondering, is it possible to start a computer as soon as the power goes on?
[14:27] <isasha> I'm running headless so I can't really edit the bios, thinking it could be done through the os directly?
[14:27] <BrianH> flat_lander: Are you on 13.04 right now?
[14:27] <flat_lander> Brian H: I have an unusual config, with some RAID 1 and other issues.
[14:27] <kostkon> odium, then reboot. you could do it like this e.g.  sudo apt-get clean and then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop --reinstall
[14:28] <BrianH> flat_lander: I'm not running a raid, just several HDDs on the mobos SATA ports.
[14:28] <rhodium> hi there!
[14:28] <flat_lander> Brian H: I am on nothing. I am trying to P to V a bunch of servers and save some power. I need to virtualize, and have run into endless problems with XenServer, Centos, etc.
[14:28] <BluesKaj> |R. ok , have fun
[14:29] <BrianH> flat_lander: switching to OpenStack I presume?
[14:29] <flat_lander> Brian H: All my physical servers are Ubuntu, running 13.04. Trying to set up a host to move them to.l
[14:29] <rhodium> I wanted to ask u guys sth.I can only boot my laptop with acpi=off
[14:29] <rhodium> but this disables wireless
[14:29] <spongebob58> hi all. just wondering if someone can help me with mounting a samba share from my win 7 pc so that it auto mounts on ubuntu startup. from what i can gather, i need to edit the fstab file, but the combinations dont seem to be working,
[14:30] <flat_lander> BrianH: Everything I try, it's something. Now, it's no USB keyboard.
[14:30] <flat_lander> BrianH: And it isn't even wireless. Just a plain ol' USB keybaord.
[14:30] <flat_lander> BrianH: No, I was going to gut it out with KVM.
[14:31] <flat_lander> BrianH: I haven't gotten to OpenStack yet.
[14:31] <flat_lander> BrianH: Advice?
[14:31] <hitsujiTMO> rhodium: have you had a look at http://askubuntu.com/questions/240293/my-laptop-only-boots-with-the-acpi-off-parameter-how-can-i-fix-this
[14:32] <BrianH> flat_lander: Well, I'm in the same boat so I'm not sure.  I'm currently setting up a preseed cgf file on my network to use and automate the 13.10 install, hoping it'll skip past the language selection.
[14:32] <dannymichel> im trying to set 'Shotwell Viewer' as my default to open images, but the option to set it as default is missing. im only allowed to 'open with' shotwell viewer.
[14:32] <dannymichel> Are the forums down for anyone elsse?
[14:33] <flat_lander> Well, good luck.
[14:33] <BrianH> flat_lander: here's the example file if you want to try: https://help.ubuntu.com/13.10/installation-guide/example-preseed.txt
[14:34] <kostkon> dannymichel, http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ubuntuforums.org
[14:34] <BluesKaj> zeer0. that's nice hardware , but I don't see much attention to l;inux drivers from that company
[14:34] <BrianH> Just host it on your network somewhere, configure it to match your setup, and then point the installer at it when you first boot.
[14:34] <sasmit87> any solution for this ...... everytime I boot my system my usb modem does not get connected to internet and I have to run these command manually to start cd /etc/usb_modeswitch.d sudo gedit 12d1:1505 sudo usb_modeswitch -I -W -c 12d1:1505
[14:35] <kostkon> dannymichel, where is that option
[14:35] <bipul>  Ok I have Question,I am running Two IP address on my ubuntu 12.04, I wanted to setup one for Mozilla Browser and another for Chrome browser, is it possible
[14:35] <kostkon> dannymichel, already tried in system settings -> detaisl?
[14:35] <kostkon> details*
[14:36] <zeer0> blueskaj, Yes, apparently the usb_caiaq driver is the one that should be working with the card in question. I'm not sure what happened with the update because it functioned perfectly with 13.04, might have to try and revert back. Thanks for your help though.
[14:37] <BluesKaj> zeer0. maybe the driver will work and was disabled somehow in the upgrade
[14:37] <BluesKaj> zeer0. try this,  sudo modprobe snd_usb_caiaq
[14:38] <BluesKaj> zeero if the driver loads properly there won't be any output from the command in the terminal
[14:39] <hitsujiTMO> bipul, i would think not, you could create a vm with bridge networking and load the second browser on that
[14:40] <dannymichel> yes, kostkon
[14:41] <dannymichel> i tried in sysstem settings and when right clicking for properties kostkon
[14:41] <kostkon> dannymichel, is not even listed when you press Add?
[14:41] <dannymichel> no kostkon
[14:43] <bipul> hitsujiTMO, No VM, i wanted to run both on my base machine
[14:44] <kostkon> dannymichel, everything's fine here. you could be missing the .desktop file for shotwell. have you tried reinstalling it?
[14:44] <dannymichel> it came with this fresh install kostkon . let me try
[14:45] <kostkon> dannymichel, im on 12.04 and i can see shotwell viewer in details and when i select list other apps in properties -> open with.
[14:47] <dannymichel> kostkon, shotwell is listed but not shotwell viewer when i reinstall
[14:48] <liquidmetal> how do I make upstart do it's thing without restarting my machine?
[14:48] <kostkon> dannymichel, hmm
[14:48] <jrib> liquidmetal: "its thing"?
[14:49] <liquidmetal> jrib, starting services and all of that
[14:50] <b0b0b0b> hello
[14:50] <reisio> hi
[14:51] <b0b0b0b> i see unbtu touch was released
[14:51] <b0b0b0b> wish i could put it on my htc one
[14:51] <kostkon> dannymichel, right, there is a bug report and an explanation. see the 1st comment. http://redmine.yorba.org/issues/7292
[14:51] <ltxinr> Hello everyone! Does anyone installed Ubuntu on an Acer Aspire V3-471G?
[14:51] <b0b0b0b> anybody here used 'redo backup'
[14:52] <dannymichel> thanks kostkon
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> !touch | b0b0b0b
[14:54] <kostkon> dannymichel, what version are you on
[14:55] <dannymichel> kostkon, 13.10 I dont understand what this guy is saying in the first comment. what file do i need to change the NoDisplay=True in?
[14:57] <kostkon> dannymichel, not sure why there was shotwell and shotwell-viewer as options, are those really two different apps?
[14:57] <dannymichel> yes, they are kostkon
[14:58] <kostkon> dannymichel, have you tried the open with shotwell option? it might opens the files with the viewer after all
[14:59] <dannymichel> yes, it opens with regular shotwell and not the niewer kostkon
[14:59] <kostkon> dannymichel, damn
[15:00] <kostkon> dannymichel, do a: locate *shotwell*.desktop
[15:01] <kostkon> dannymichel, i could give you my shotwell-viewer.desktop file if you haven't got it already
[15:02] <dannymichel> kostkon, http://pastebin.com/pDGZ68es
[15:03] <kostkon> dannymichel, pastebin it for me just to compare it with mine:  gedit /usr/share/applications/shotwell-viewer.desktop
[15:04] <dannymichel> kostkon, http://pastebin.com/QXe08Bd2
[15:06] <kostkon> dannymichel, i guess they are the same. then obviously let's try the obvious, setting the nodisplay to False.
[15:07] <dannymichel> what file do i set nodisplay=false to kostkon ?
[15:07] <kostkon> dannymichel, sudo nano /usr/share/applications/shotwell-viewer.desktop
[15:07] <kostkon> dannymichel, save the file then logout and log back in.
[15:07] <dannymichel> ok kostkon brb
[15:14] <dannymichel> it worked kostkon . thanks
[15:14] <kostkon> dannymichel, nice :)
[15:17] <Facepalm> hi
[15:17] <pfifo> Any dpkg guru's around? I ran this http://fpaste.org/47979/19562213/ as a workaround for simply uninstalling update-manager. I didnt want to uninstall because it removed the lubuntu-desktop metapackage from my system. I need lubuntu-desktop in case addition deps are added to it in the future, but do not want update-manager, or atleast dont want it popping up. Is there any problems that could arise from this setup?
[15:17] <Facepalm> i need help with find -mtime
[15:17] <emilio> hi
[15:17] <Facepalm> with mtitime i can specify days right?
[15:17] <Facepalm> mtime
[15:19] <pingincatnik> hello is there a way i can modify my time and date settings? they seem to be off
[15:20] <pfifo> Facepalm: yes, the argument it requires is the number of days
[15:20] <umarzuki> pingincatnik: date command or ntpdate
[15:20] <kernal> guys, I'm lost. what's the package containing 32bit libsqlite3.so.0
[15:21] <Facepalm> pfifo: what if I want to find files changed in months instead if days
[15:21] <xtriz_> what is the name of the package which has the option to connect through ssh, ftp , samba  ? the image of the software is given in this link but the name is not mentioned. -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/217693/is-there-an-easy-way-to-set-up-a-home-ftp-server
[15:21] <pfifo> Facepalm: you cant, you have to use days, but its ok to say something like 1440 days ago
[15:22] <Facepalm> ok thanks pfifo
[15:23] <pfifo> Facepalm: you could do this too in a script 'find -mtime `expr $months \* 30`'
[15:25] <pfifo> kernal: libsqlite3-0
[15:26] <geirha> pfifo: Don't use expr though; the shell can do math too. $(( months * 30 ))
[15:26] <pfifo> xtriz_: im pretty sure that image is from the connect to server option in nautilus
[15:27] <SteveBell> hi all, I have a toshiba nb-305 netbook booting into a black screen with ubuntu 12.10. then added "nomodeset" and now it boots into the terminal. but not into the desktop. any ideas what to do now?
[15:27] <xtriz_> pfifo, yeah you are right
[15:27] <pfifo> Any dpkg guru's around? I ran this http://fpaste.org/47979/19562213/ as a workaround for simply uninstalling update-manager. I didnt want to uninstall because it removed the lubuntu-desktop metapackage from my system. I need lubuntu-desktop in case addition deps are added to it in the future, but do not want update-manager, or atleast dont want it popping up. Is there any problems that could arise from this setup?
[15:28] <auronandace> SteveBell: find out your graphics card and make sure you have the appropriate driver for it
[15:28] <SteveBell> so http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Graphics-Media-Accelerator-3150.23264.0.html seems to be the chip auronandace but what now?
[15:29] <auronandace> SteveBell: i can't help with intel cards sorry
[15:29] <auronandace> SteveBell: any reason you are trying 12.10 and not 13.10?
[15:30] <SteveBell> auronandace:  well I was on 12.04 (working fine) and wanted to go to 13.10 but then read that a direct update was not recommended
[15:30] <auronandace> SteveBell: the more recent the release the more recent the kernel being used and the more up to date the drivers are for it
[15:30] <SteveBell> so now I'm stuck on 12.10 black screen
[15:31] <pfifo> SteveBell: why is it booting to a black screen?
[15:32] <kalakaj> hi all, i want to delete some log files from /var/log/ , should i delete them, i need some space
[15:32] <SteveBell> pfifo: If only I knew that
[15:34] <pfifo> SteveBell: when you boot, at the grub screen, press 'e' to edit your kernel command line and remove the 'quiet splash' part and likely the 'nomodeset' part that should now be there, press ctrl+x to boot and look for errors
[15:34] <aPpYe> the ubuntu mini isos for 13.10 have dates of Oct. 15, two days before the official release.  Are these not final release iso's?
[15:34] <SteveBell> pfifo: so I get into grub screen by pressing ESC key?
[15:35] <pfifo> SteveBell: i dont know, i setup grub to always disply itself and prompt me
[15:36] <auronandace> SteveBell: you press shift
[15:36] <Apachez> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/the-navys-newest-warship-is-powered-by-linux/
[15:36] <kalakaj> hi all, i want to delete some log files from /var/log/ , should i delete them, i need some space
[15:36] <kalakaj> can i safely delete them, without affecting system stability
[15:36] <SteveBell> auronandace: shift doesn't do anything on that netboot when booting
[15:38] <pfifo> kalakaj: no you cant... it is safe to remove the *.gz files, but to delete the normal files you should use 'echo -n | sudo tee /var/log/offender.log'
[15:38] <emilio> hi
[15:39] <SteveBell> ok esc didn't work. now I'm again in the terminal asking for my login
[15:40] <Xaseron> does somebody else has to problem that ubuntu server release upgrades fails to reboot?
[15:40] <Xaseron> *the problem
[15:41] <pfifo> SteveBell: try shift
[15:42] <pfifo> SteveBell: im pretty sure you have to hold it, not just press it
[15:43]  * SteveBell is holding shift for 1min already
[15:43] <SteveBell> should sth happen?
[15:44] <madpigeon> hello
[15:44] <SteveBell> maybe i need this? https://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng&ProductFamily=Graphics&ProductLine=Netbook+and+Tablet+Graphics&ProductProduct=Intel®+Graphics+Media+Accelerator+3150+%28Intel®+GMA+3150%29
[15:45] <SteveBell> for shift on boot: nothing happens , as soon as I release I'm back to the purple background
[15:46] <kostkon> SteveBell, 3150 should work fine
[15:46] <SteveBell> kostkon: that means? nothing to do?
[15:46] <kostkon> SteveBell, in the terminal try giving:  sudo service lightdm start
[15:47] <SteveBell> I see the ubuntu logo for 2 sec and then the screen goes black. ok will try
[15:48] <systemfish> if I just apt-get install hibernate, will that destroy my computer?
[15:48] <systemfish> system*
[15:48] <pfifo> SteveBell: maybe its control... grub changes its key evey 36 hours to confuse people on purpose
[15:48] <kostkon> SteveBell, your graphics card shouldn't be the problem. in theory always.
[15:48] <kostkon> SteveBell, 3150 is well supported
[15:49] <SteveBell> kostkon:  I believe you. and still I'm sitting in front of a black screen
[15:49] <kostkon> SteveBell, yeah :/
[15:49] <systemfish> am I endangering my system if I apt-get install hibernate and use it?
[15:50] <pfifo> systemfish: no, it was removed due to so many problems, but if you want it, and can get it to work properly, go fir it
[15:50] <SteveBell> pfifo: yes they are pretty successful with that. I got into grub once. don't ask me how. It was the esc key I'm pretty sure. but it seems it has to be pressed on the exact right time. no human being knows that time.
[15:50] <SteveBell> great stuff...
[15:50] <madpigeon> nah you wont fix it
[15:51] <JohnSmith> Hi guys, How can I save my installed apps  for reinstallation (not just a list). I cleaned up apt cache so aptoncd not going to work.
[15:51] <pfifo> SteveBell: you can always edit /etc/default/grub from the terminal you can get to, set HIDDEN=0 and the sudo update-grub
[15:51] <SteveBell> ok esc got me into grub
[15:51] <sleezio> hello, when you disable file and application usage(zeitgeist) in security & privacy...should it stop the zeistgeist-daemon process? seems a bit useless to have it running if you've disabled it(13.10
[15:52] <ireas> hi there. my (graphical) update to 13.10 seems to be stuck configuring xorg-docs-core. any advices? or should I reboot and "apt-get -f install"?
[15:52] <SteveBell> yey. turns out pressing it once (but not right after starting the machine) and then again does work
[15:52] <SteveBell> so now I go to extended options for ubuntu?
[15:52] <Hackwar> could someone help me with WLAN? I wanna install ubuntu server on an HP N54L and I have to conntect via WLAN. I bought an ASUS PCE-N15 for that and when I install Ubuntu, it discovers that card correctly, but I somehow can't associate with an AP. Am I right that I only have to set the ESSID to associate an AP with my card?
[15:53] <systemfish> pfifo: what problems? :s
[15:53] <pfifo> SteveBell: highlight your ubuntu entry, press 'e', and remove 'quite splash nomodeset' from the kernel line, then ctrl+x to boot
[15:53] <pfifo> systemfish: it hangs on boot, or dosent bring all your stuff back online
[15:54] <emilio> goodbye
[15:54] <systemfish> pfifo: wow.. I'll apt-install purge it then
[15:55] <Mugen> Hi
[15:55] <SteveBell> pfifo:  so I remove "quiet splash" only? it says "quiet splash_$vt_handoff"
[15:55] <SteveBell> ah sry: "quiet splash $vt_handoff"
[15:55] <systemfish> I lost my connection earlier. There seems to be an ancient ubuntu bug around that makes your CPU-fan spin like a cat when you wake it up from sleep. Are there any real fixes to it?
[15:56] <Mugen> Can somebody help me. I'm having a bit of a struggle using bumblebee
[15:56] <pfifo> SteveBell: leave the $vt_handoff
[15:56] <JohnSmith> Sorry. I try it agaig.  How can I save my installed apps  for reinstallation (not just a list). I cleaned up apt cache so aptoncd not going to work.
[15:56] <systemfish> Mugen: ask optimus prime
[15:58] <pfifo> JohnSmith: if you removed you packages from /var/cache/apt/archives then youll have to download everything again
[15:59] <croniksoft> hello
[15:59] <SteveBell> pfifo: hm it does boot for a while but now I find my self back on the terminal line asking for a login
[15:59] <SteveBell> :S
[16:00] <isasha> I'm having issues with connecting to my nfs share from my mac - I've connected, set the permissions up, set the binds correctly (can ls the dir through ssh)
[16:00] <pfifo> SteveBell: from the terminal, run 'sudo service lightdm start'
[16:00] <isasha> only problem, I don't see any of the files from my mac
[16:04] <mariko> hello.
[16:04] <kostkon> mariko, hi
[16:05] <AncientTech> mariko<Greetings
[16:05] <mariko> list
[16:05] <mariko> exit
[16:05] <mariko> quit
[16:05] <kostkon> :/
[16:05] <xtriz_> ntp just sync my machines clock to correct time ? it does automatically on every system boot ?
[16:06] <AncientTech> mariko found it...
[16:06] <GeekFood> I killed a process with an open port (8080), and now I can't open a new server on port 8080
[16:06] <GeekFood> How do I release port 8080
[16:07] <pfifo> GeekFood: pastebin the output of 'sudo netstat -tuna'
[16:09] <SteveBell> pfifo: hm it's sitting there looks like booting. I wrote down those steps and will test this when I have more time. have an appointment now. thanks for your help so far.
[16:09] <kostkon> xtr, ntpdate does it during boot if there is an internet connection, i think, and then ntp from time to time if you have enabled it
[16:09] <GeekFood> pfifo: http://pastebin.com/JWXzMfJ5
[16:11] <pfifo> GeekFood: it is in time wait status, try again in 5 minuts, or to answer your actual question. restart the networking service or reboot to make it happen instantly
[16:11] <GeekFood> pfifo: How would I restart networking?
[16:11] <GeekFood> I want to make a note of it for future reference
[16:12] <designbybeck> Ok BluesKaj, I tried most all those solutions from that page, none seem to work. Most time I could get back to the desktop, but the NVIDIA Drivers didn't seem to have took. But no matter what I do now, my resolution is default and I can't change it from 800x600 or 1024x768. When I first installed 13.10 I at least had the resolution looking better.
[16:12] <designbybeck> Easy way to rollback to default setup? Or is it better to just reinstall?
[16:12] <pfifo> GeekFood: Im not sure about the properly supported 'ubuntu' method, I think 'sudo service networking restart'
[16:12] <GeekFood> pfifo: thanks
[16:13] <IdleOne> designbybeck: there is no rollback in ubuntu. best way is to reinstall
[16:13] <designbybeck> IdleOne: I tried to clean up /remove some of the things  I tried but that didn't seem to get me back to where I was... So I guess a new install will be my only option
[16:14] <GeekFood> pfifo: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart seems to be the answer
[16:14] <eoss> When I run a python program where the program exists using ./program, all is well. But when I attempt to create a cronjob, using 00 05 * * *  /full/path/of/the/file  I get errors stating it can't find some directory I've specific in the code
[16:15] <pfifo> GeekFood: thats not the "supported by #ubuntu" method, but glad you found it
[16:15] <GeekFood> hmm... It didn't seem to work, but I probably did something wrong. I think it would be best for me to just reboot so I am sure everything is running correctly.
[16:16] <He4dShOt> hi
[16:17] <pfifo> eoss: cron has a limited enviroment, I would makesure you have the enviroment setup properly
[16:17] <eoss> pfifo: thank you
[16:18] <BluesKaj> designbybeck. sorry to hear that , next time I'll refrain from recommending that tutorial
[16:18] <G33kDude> pfifo: Ignore everything I said previously. TIL ^z means "send running process to background"
[16:18] <G33kDude> fg fixed my problem
[16:18] <pfifo> G33kDude: ok
[16:19] <designbybeck> It did seem promising BluesKaj and had some good info. I'll reinstall clean, and give it a few weeks! The OSS community, along with NVIDIA/Steams new targets will hopefully get a nice fix
[16:20] <Facepalm> if I creat
[16:20] <BluesKaj> designbybeck. we can only hope :P
[16:20] <He4dShOt> Do you know how I can investigate the crash on chromium? Since ubuntu 13.10 I can't watch youtube
[16:21] <He4dShOt> It chrashes all the time
[16:21] <hp_> i cant use my partition after i choosed it to be crypted during installation >> what can i do on terminal?
[16:21] <Facepalm> if I want to add time in the name file like $(date '+\%y-\%m') but hours and seconds, how do I do it?
[16:23] <pfifo> He4dShOt: run 'chromium-browser' from the command line to get useful error messages
[16:24] <xtriz_> pfifo, if i have a router and using  4 machines. I have made one machine as a server, is it of any benefit of having the main server machine dhcp and dns on it ? and let other 3 machines to get their network info from them ?
[16:24] <xtriz_> security wise or efficiency wise ?
[16:25] <He4dShOt> thanks pfifo, I'll try
[16:25] <buu> xtriz_: As opposed to having the router run dhcp?
[16:25] <He4dShOt> Facepalm, %S?
[16:25] <Facepalm> He4dShOt: ill try
[16:26] <xtriz_> buu, yes instead of router the other machines get their ip from the main server having dhcp.
[16:26] <pfifo> xtriz_: nothing that I can think of, most routers that Ive used are embed linux systems anyway, so its the same difference
[16:26] <buu> xtriz_: Also this way your network will continue to run if your server goes down
[16:27] <xtriz_> buu, can't get you
[16:27] <xtriz_> pfifo, ok
[16:27] <pfifo> xtriz_: your server can configure dhcp and dns in much finer detail than most consumer grade routers, thats the only advantage I can think of. but thats not security or efficiency related
[16:29] <pfifo> xtriz_: I like to use a static IP on my server and then let my router assign IPs to all my devices, this seems to work out pretty good
[16:29] <xtriz_> pfifo, nice info :)
[16:32]  * DJ_Unibob is considering taking a sledgehammer to his ancient dsl modem that appaarently seems to be on it's last legs.  -.-
[16:32] <bigdaddy> hi, could i get help installing ethernet drivers? atheros ar8151 v1.0 gigabit ethernet, ubuntu 12.10
[16:33] <pfifo> DJ_Unibob: I would take a ebay auction to it instead, might be worth something to someone
[16:34] <DJ_Unibob> Eh, it's old, it's inaccessable in a browser, and the wireless side of it doesn't work, have to use another router setup as an AP, just to avoid a double-NAT
[16:34] <fw190> hello
[16:35] <fw190> my two laptops which I upgraded to lubuntu 13.10 from 13.04 stopped scanning on 2 scanners
[16:35] <fw190> any hints how to search why it happened like this?
[16:35] <Patero-ng> I have a problem with ubuntu either 13.04 or 13.10 turn my screen black like the video is lost and I think the system halts too what can it be? anyone?
[16:35] <pfifo> DJ_Unibob: in my area, the DSL providers lease you a router, if thats your case, call them and get an upgrade
[16:37] <DJ_Unibob> Not sure, the people I live with I think actually own the router...It's an Embarq (I believe) 660r pro series...I think.
[16:38] <angelo__> facebook
[16:39] <DJ_Unibob> I can ping it with no issues, in all o/s's, just can't access it's GUI.  It just comes up with page cannot be displayed.
[16:39] <Patero-ng> please someone knows why I lose video signal with ubuntu I'm using a hd5770
[16:39] <Omen_20> Hi, could anyone tell me if the Scopes feature actually does anything. I upgraded and so far I see zero difference from 13.04
[16:40] <maria_> hello
[16:40] <DJ_Unibob> I would actually like to get to the GUI if there is still a way and look at the logs and see if there's a reason why the PPPoE has been dropping 2 orr 3 times a day all of a sudden.
[16:41] <hp_> my cheese software doesnt record videos .. any solution?
[16:42] <pfifo> DJ_Unibob: If your using a 2nd router as an AP, I doubt that the 1st router will let you into the GUI, try a wired connection instead
[16:43] <pfifo> hp_: I use mencoder to make videos from webcam
[16:43] <hp_> pfifo: is mencoder on ubuntu 13.10 repo?
[16:44] <pfifo> hp_: Im pretty sure its in the multiverse
[16:44] <hikenboot> hello I am trying to recover a system in a chroot installing open-vm-tools in a esx5i ubuntu guest. It is giving me the error "FATAL: could not load /lib/modules/3.8.0-19-generic/modules.dep no such file or directory. I would guess this is a problem with a spit kernel in chroot ...anyone know how to fix
[16:45] <hp_> pfifo: mencoder 2:1.0~rc4.dfsg1+svn34540-1ubuntu4?
[16:45] <pfifo> !info mencoder saucy
[16:45] <pfifo> hp_: YEP, THATS IT
[16:45] <pfifo> opps, caps
[16:49] <pfifo> hikenboot: installing open-vm-tools dosent sound like a recovery route to me, you should boot the system once its working and then install open-vm-tools
[16:54] <alket> Hi, I am using the latest version of Ubuntu, I can't find the /etc/apache2/sites-available/default , I have installed apache, where is the httdoc.conf ?
[16:56] <pfifo> why does 'ssh -D 1234 example.com' drop me to a shell only to clobber it with error/debug messages when I use the socket?
[16:56] <hitsujiTMO> alket, latest ubuntu uses apache httpd 2.4. completely new config experience
[16:56] <Hackwar> ok, I just re-installed Ubuntu Server to get a really clean system and wanted to use wpa_cli to configure my WLAN, but it only says that wpa_supplicant has not started yet. Could someone help me through the steps to set this up?
[16:58] <alket> hitsujiTMO: thank you
[17:00] <sasmit87> any solution for this ...... everytime I boot my system my usb modem does not get connected to internet and I have to run these command manually to start cd /etc/usb_modeswitch.d sudo gedit 12d1:1505 sudo usb_modeswitch -I -W -c 12d1:1505
[17:01] <xtriz> how can i symlink the defaul ftp directory /srv/ftp to /home/ftp ?
[17:01] <pfifo> xtriz: sudo ln -sf /srv/ftp /home/ftp
[17:02] <OerHeks> maybe you want sudo ln -sf /srv/ftp  /home/$USER/ftp
[17:03] <paulpaul1076> hello, could you guys help me configure my laptop to work with xbubuntu?
[17:04] <xtriz> OerHeks, pfifo it worked :)
[17:06] <OerHeks> sasmit87, why this part ? > sudo gedit 12d1:1505
[17:07] <superjoe> hello, I'm looking for some guidance in getting my system back to working order after experiencing a kernel panic during the upgrade to saucy
[17:07] <sasmit87> that actually not needed if you already saved it
[17:07] <superjoe> currently when I boot into recovery mode I /sbin/init: error while loading shared libraries: libjson-c.so.2: cannot open shared object file: no such file or director
[17:08] <kclemente> parental control
[17:08] <pfifo> superjoe: looks like your missing dependacies for python. from this point a fresh install is the best route
[17:09] <kclemente> hi! is webcontrolcontrol available for 13.10?
[17:09] <superjoe> pfifo, so to salvage my data, I'd have to find another computer to put the hard drive in?
[17:09] <xtriz> OerHeks, pfifo how can i have a setup in which each time a new user is created ( sudo ln -sf /srv/ftp /home/$USER/ftp gets created automatically ?
[17:09] <superjoe> pfifo, encrypted home folder...
[17:09] <pfifo> superjoe: make the link in /etc/skel
[17:10] <pfifo> xtriz: make the link in /etc/skel
[17:10] <pfifo> sorry
[17:10] <xtriz> superjoe, i have some linux Iso and some stuff to be hosted for my college.
[17:10] <xtriz> link in /etc/skel ?
[17:10] <superjoe> xtriz, what?
[17:11] <pfifo> superjoe: I cant say for sure, if you have a smart partitioning scheme, then you should be able to fresh install without losing any data
[17:11] <xtriz> superjoe, nothing :)
[17:11] <superjoe> pfifo, oh good idea. I can recover data then repartition
[17:11] <ronin> How much must a Junior SW developer have experience to level up to a Senior SW developer?
[17:11] <superjoe> ronin, that's not really a question for #ubuntu
[17:12] <xtriz> pfifo, i can't get you on make the link in /etc/skel
[17:12] <kclemente> is there any updated gui app for parental control?
[17:12] <pfifo> superjoe: for the encrypted home folder, there is a way, but I use full disk encryption so have little experience with the home folder encryption
[17:12] <Lieke> Hii
[17:13] <Lieke> How are chuuu?
[17:13] <pfifo> xtriz: when you create a new user, the contents of /etc/skel get copied to /home/newuser including a symling to /srv/ftp if there is one there
[17:13] <Paddy_NI> Has indicator-appmenu support been removed from Google Chrome?
[17:15] <xtriz> pfifo, yeah got that point, but where to keep the /srv/ftp symblink in /etc/skel ?
[17:15] <Lieke> Hallo
[17:15] <pfifo> xtriz: 'sudo ln -sf /srv/ftp /etc/skel/ftp'
[17:15] <Lieke> Hiiii]\
[17:17] <Lieke> Terung..
[17:17] <Lieke> Viele manshaften
[17:18] <xtriz> pfifo, got it now :)
[17:18] <Lieke> juh
[17:18] <Lieke> Hello does anyone hear me?
[17:18] <Lieke> I think my internet got screweeeed
[17:18] <k1l_> !ask | Lieke
[17:19] <syntac> i have an old computer from early 2000s with nvidia gfx. i can see text on screen during bootup (BIOS) but once grub starts, i have no output. i know this is config related as i've changed it before but forgot what to change. anyone know where to start looking?
[17:20] <hitsujiTMO> syntac: check your Xorg log ... /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[17:20] <wietset> hoi
[17:20] <wietset> tuituig
[17:20] <reuf> whats the difference between .basrc and .bash_profile?
[17:21] <reuf> can i move .bash_profile to .bashrc
[17:21] <k1l_> wietset Lieke , please keep this channel clear for ubuntu support
[17:21] <impossible> how can i get my external mintor working
[17:22] <wietset> hoi
[17:22] <hitsujiTMO> reuf: http://www.joshstaiger.org/archives/2005/07/bash_profile_vs.html
[17:22] <impossible> it wont show up anymore
[17:22] <Radio-1> hoi
[17:23] <k1l_> impossible: install the right driver (depending on your video card) and set the options with the control tool
[17:23] <Radio-1> vandaag hebben we weer de beste muziek
[17:23] <syntac> hitsujiTMO, i don't have X installed. this is all console
[17:23] <impossible> ) k1l_ how do i install the right driver?
[17:24] <captine> hi.  perhaps not the right place to ask, but is Kerberos the tool for centralised user management and authentication on ubuntu?
[17:25] <hello_world> Hi , I have Dell inspiron 3521 , and installed ubuntu-12.04 alongside windows-8 , it doesn't show wireless connection. How could it be resolved ?
[17:25] <k1l_> impossible: like i said. that depends on your video card
[17:26] <hitsujiTMO> syntac: in that case have a look at boot logs /var/log/boot.log
[17:26] <pfifo> reuf: bashrc is for interactive shells, bash_profile is for login shells
[17:26] <Patero-ng> anyone here knows where I can find the desktop version of 10.04
[17:26] <Patero-ng> I can't find it on previous releases
[17:26] <k1l_> !eol | Patero-ng
[17:26] <hitsujiTMO> Patero-ng: its no longer supported so it has been removed
[17:26] <k1l_> Patero-ng: the desktop version is not supported anymore. just the server stuff from 10.04
[17:27] <impossible> damn it was working before
[17:27] <Patero-ng> 13.04 and 13.10 make me loose video signal
[17:27] <Patero-ng> and system halts what can it be
[17:27] <hello_world> does anybody have solution to my problem??? please tell?
[17:28] <pfifo> hello_world: i had to install linux-firmware-nonfree to get mine working
[17:29] <Patero-ng> you know a weird thing... the video card fan on ubuntu is at 100% and when it crashes if I dont' remove power completely it remains on 100% even on windows I have to turn off the switch on the backfor a few seconds to make it go back to normal is like the thing resides and persist on memory whatever caused ubuntu to halt
[17:29] <hello_world> pfifo: which model do you have??
[17:29] <hitsujiTMO> hello_world: whats the output of: lspci
[17:29] <Patero-ng> by the way it makes my windows crash too
[17:29] <Ari-Yang> Patero-ng: what video card do you have?
[17:29] <Patero-ng> hd5770
[17:29] <pfifo> hello_world: 07:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM43225 802.11b/g/n (rev 01)
[17:29] <hitsujiTMO> Patero-ng: what graphics do you have?
[17:30] <Patero-ng> asus hd5770
[17:30] <nks> is it possible to install ubuntu 13.10 as dual boot to a laptop that comes with windows 8?
[17:31] <auronandace> !uefi | nks
[17:31] <pfifo> nks: yes
[17:31] <nks> can you suggest me a howto or instruction that I can follow?
[17:31] <Patero-ng> I'm going to use a passive cooling pretty soon so the noise doens't bother me on ubuntu
[17:32] <hello_world> hitsujiTMO : OUTPUT of lspci is
[17:32] <basichash> What is a good text-based browser?
[17:32] <hello_world> 02:01.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82545EM Gigabit Ethernet Controller (Copper) (rev 01)
[17:32] <hello_world> 02:02.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 02)
[17:33] <auronandace> hello_world: in a pastebin
[17:33] <reisio> basichash: links, elinks, w3m, lynx
[17:33] <basichash> thanks reiso
[17:33] <basichash> reisio*
[17:34] <Patero-ng> does anyone here knows how to check if my video card is uncompatible with the newest versions o ubano
[17:34] <reisio> np homie
[17:34] <Patero-ng> will changing video drivers help
[17:35] <eg0x> hello. i`ve got a problem with my usb mouse (mad catz rat7). already found a site which describes a fix, but there he mentions the xorg.conf which i cant find on my system. using ubuntu 13.10
[17:37] <auronandace> eg0x: it isn't there by default but if you make one it will be obeyed
[17:37] <auronandace> !xorgconf | eg0x
[17:37] <Facepalm> anyone knows how to edit crontab -e in an automated kickstart install using a kickstart file?
[17:38] <eg0x> thanks guys :)
[17:38] <basichash> Are directories files?
[17:39] <basichash> and if so, how do they reference other files? e.g. have a list of other files with the file name, location in memory etc
[17:39] <kosmotak> helo
[17:39] <kosmotak> enybody here
[17:40] <kosmotak> i have a question
[17:40] <kosmotak> guys?
[17:40] <kosmotak> can anyone help me pls
[17:40] <Malinux> is there anybody out there?
[17:40] <kosmotak> i am
[17:40] <kosmotak> do u know something about ubuntu
[17:40] <kosmotak> ?
[17:41] <kosmotak> i have little problem
[17:41] <Malinux> I think you should be patient and not expect to get an answer imedently
[17:41] <rafael> olá
[17:41] <Malinux> anyhow you should ask your question first
[17:41] <kosmotak> i have linux slax now
[17:41] <kosmotak> and i wonder if it is possible to install ubuntu
[17:41] <kosmotak> from slax
[17:41] <kosmotak> without cd r pendrive
[17:42] <kosmotak> whoami
[17:42] <Guest84708> hacking XChat now.
[17:42] <cellofellow> I just ran the dist-upgrade to 13.10 and so far mostly good, but I used too have Caps Lock key mapped to Esc, but that's not set anymore and there's no gui for it. And setting a .Xmodmap file didn't work either.
[17:42] <Malinux> kosmotak: I don't think you can Upgrade to Ubuntu on a Slax-install
[17:43] <kosmotak> no i mean i don't have installed slax yet
[17:43] <kosmotak> i don't have any os
[17:43] <Malinux> okey
[17:43] <kosmotak> and i want install ubuntu
[17:43] <Malinux> okey
[17:43] <kosmotak> without cd
[17:43] <kosmotak> or penderive
[17:43] <auronandace> !enter | kosmotak
[17:43] <cellofellow> kosmotak: some linux distros can install from within other linux distros using a chrot.
[17:43] <cellofellow> s/chrot/chroot/
[17:43] <kosmotak> ok , sory
[17:43] <cellofellow> not sure ubuntu can, though
[17:43] <hitsujiTMO> kosmotak: you could do a pxe boot if you can setup a pxe server
[17:44] <auronandace> !debootsrap | kosmotak
[17:44] <cellofellow> !debootstrap | kosmotak
[17:45] <Hello_World> Output of lspci
[17:45] <Hello_World> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6265247/
[17:45] <basichash> How do I run a program in the background?
[17:45] <Hello_World> hitsujiTMO : ^
[17:45] <cellofellow> kosmotak: the procedure is probably to grab debootstrap source or binary tarball, then mount your desired partition and debootstrap that, then chroot, install ubuntu-base, and then add a bootloader to that hard drive.
[17:46] <kosmotak> ok i see thanks a lot i read something about that and try
[17:46] <jrib> basichash: in what context?
[17:47] <kosmotak> cellofellow: but i have to setup server with ubuntu files first?
[17:47] <hitsujiTMO> Hello_World: looks like its not supported. you'll need to find proprietary drivers
[17:47] <cellofellow> kosmotak: no, it'll grab them from archive.ubuntu.com.
[17:47] <basichash> jrib: I'm trying to run virtualbox from the terminal, but I want to be able to close the terminal and keep virtualbox running.
[17:48] <mojtaba> Hi, After upgrading to 13.10, there is a light display manager at the login page and it does not accept my password. Does anybody know what is it? and what is its password?
[17:48] <jrib> basichash: append "& disown" to your command (or use nohup, or screen, or tmux)
 deego so i shoudl google the chip drivers or chip ndiswrapper???  <<[17:49] <DenSaakalte> Good afternoon... Serious problem here again: I did a clean reinstall of Ubuntu after I had problems with the graphic rendering in Ubuntu 13.10 (it stopped recognizing my graphic card), then after a crash during the upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10, I'm getting all sorts of errors
[17:49] <jrib> basichash: if you've already started the program, then you should be able to hit "ctrl-z" to suspend it, "bg" to resume it in the background, then "disown" to tell the shell not to manage it anymore
[17:49] <Hello_World> hitsujiTMO : i have tried many things but still didn't get it to work. Can you suggest something that can be done or is it not at all possible?
[17:49] <mojtaba> Also after upgrading to 13.10 when my laptop wake up after sleep the network become disconnected and needs a restart to be connected again. Do you know what should I do? (dell studio 1555)
[17:49] <DenSaakalte> Ubuntu 13.10 is having problems with the Intel Sanybridge Mobile graphic card
[17:49] <hitsujiTMO> Hello_World: have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2103062
[17:50] <milanoa> d
[17:50] <dysuki> can someone please tell me how to install "apt-get" on ubuntu using yum installer
[17:50] <dysuki> for someone reason it doesn't work
[17:50] <crundar> how do I do a dist-upgrade from 12.10 to the most current release? Do I need to go through 13.04 first?
[17:50] <crundar> should I?
[17:50] <basichash> jrib: thanks
[17:50] <deego> dysuki: using yum? why?
[17:50] <auronandace> dysuki: yum is an entirely different system for rpm based distros
[17:50] <jrib> crundar: yes, you must go through 13.04 first
[17:50] <jrib> !upgrade crundar
[17:50] <dysuki> deego, or any way really
[17:50] <k1l_> crundar: you need to go 12.10 -> 13.04 -> 13.10
[17:50] <jrib> !upgrade | crundar
[17:51] <deego> dysuki: Are you sure you don't already have apt?
[17:51] <dysuki> deego, i thought you had to use yum .. sorry, hten how should i install it
[17:51] <deego> installed?
[17:51] <mojtaba> Hi, After upgrading to 13.10, there is a light display manager at the login page and it does not accept my password. Does anybody know what is it? and what is its password? Also after upgrading to 13.10 when my laptop wake up after sleep the network become disconnected and needs a restart to be connected again. Do you know what should I do? (dell studio 1555)
[17:51] <dysuki> yep im sure
[17:51] <deego> dysuki: how?
[17:51] <oal> Is it possible to hide the top menu bar (clock etc) on the second monitor in Ubuntu?
[17:51] <oal> It's the same on both monitors, and I don't need it twice
[17:51] <dysuki> -bash: apt-get: command not found
[17:51] <dysuki> "which apt-get"
[17:51] <dysuki> returns nothing
[17:51] <deego> dysuki: try /usr/bin/apt-get
[17:51] <crundar> jrib: k1l_ that's so much you all. Hella on the spot
[17:52] <auronandace> dysuki: tell us what /etc/issue says
[17:52] <hitsujiTMO> dysuki: whats the output of: uname -a
[17:52] <dysuki> crap
[17:52] <marlo> ~confused~ i have managed to mount my encrypted partition from another boot, but my home directory remains encrypted, it is filled with files "ECRYPTFS_FNEK_ENCRYPTED..." and so on, how do I unlock my home directory.  I just want to get my data off that partition, and then start over
[17:52] <dysuki> [root@main]# more /etc/issue
[17:52] <dysuki> CentOS release 6.4 (Final)
[17:52] <dysuki> Kernel \r on an \m
[17:52] <rafael_> Hacking users of XChat now with Ubuntu 13.10.
[17:52] <deego> lol
[17:52] <dysuki> thought it was unbuntu it's centos
[17:52] <dysuki> shame
[17:52] <dysuki> im embarrased
[17:53] <deego> lolol, no need to be embarassed :)
[17:53] <deego> nice guess auronandace  :)
[17:53] <DenSaakalte> I see myself having to do a clean reinstall ONCE again because it's the same problem I had before, Ubuntu 13.10 has serious problems to recognize the Sandybridge card and I keep getting errors, I can't deal with it
[17:53] <crundar> I've made special modifications to my bluetooth-rules and xorg.conf files. Should I be expecting any trouble as a result of upgrading?
[17:53] <dysuki> yes auronandace, thanks
[17:54] <k1l_> crundar: hard to tell
[17:54] <dysuki> ok os should i leave this channel with my tail between my legs?
[17:54] <dysuki> so*
[17:54] <deego> and equivalently, hitsujiTMO :)
[17:54] <crundar> It's also telling me that it's disabled some of the third-party entries in my sources.list file. Is that automatic/expected, or indicative of some particular incompatibility with that repo?
[17:54] <deego> dysuki: No no, ditch those reds. install ubuntu :)
[17:54] <crundar> oh wow. jesus. already done updating.
[17:54] <k1l_> crundar: PPAs get disabled for the upgrade
[17:54] <crundar> see you all on the other side (I hope)
[17:54] <auronandace> dysuki: you are welcome to stay and watch or help people with ubuntu issues
[17:54] <dysuki> cant working under certain confines
[17:54] <deego> ah
[17:55] <dysuki> auronandace, i think i just might :-)
[17:55] <basichash> How can I download torrents in terminal?
[17:55] <reisio> basichash: aria2c is good for one-offs
[17:55] <crundar> oh, not done yet. not done by a long shot.
[17:55] <hitsujiTMO> basichash: install transmission-daemon
[17:55] <reisio> aria2, that is (the executable is aria2c)
[17:56] <basichash> thanks
[17:56] <hitsujiTMO> basichash: or transmission-cli sorry
[17:56] <Pinch97> Hi
[17:56] <hitsujiTMO> basichash: transmission-daemon provides a web based interface
[17:57] <reisio> Pinch97: hi
[17:57] <basichash> hitsujiTMO: no worries, cheers
[17:58] <Pinch97> Can someone help. I tried to install 13.10 alongside windows 7 but when it restarted my pc it said the installation had failed.
[17:58] <pfifo> is ubuntu cloud free?
[17:58] <streulma> hello, is there someone here that can help me with my problem? First of all I have a Dell Vostro 1720. But with 12.04 LTS it has problems with the video card.
[17:59] <mojtaba> Hi, After upgrading to 13.10, there is a light display manager at the login page and it does not accept my password. Does anybody know what is it? and what is its password? Also after upgrading to 13.10 when my laptop wake up after sleep the network become disconnected and needs a restart to be connected again. Do you know what should I do? (dell studio 1555)
[18:00] <Logan_> mojtaba: I can answer your former question about the Light Display Manager user. It's a bug that needs to be fixed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/1235785
[18:00] <hitsujiTMO> pfifo: as in ubuntu one,   or http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud ?
[18:01] <dysuki> deego, does ubuntu come with apt-get by default? if so, im going to install it right now
[18:01] <pfifo> hitsujiTMO: what ever is being offered here http://www.ubuntu.com/download/cloud
[18:01] <dysuki> deego, confies have suddenly changed :-[
[18:01] <dysuki> :-p
[18:01] <basichash> How can I order files by creation date?
[18:02] <deego> dysuki: yes it does.
[18:02] <rafael_> hi
[18:02] <deego> dysuki: fyi the name of the pkg is apt. It provides commands such as apt-get and apt-cache.
[18:02] <rafael_> hi
[18:02] <UrielVigilant> i do : sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree  , and i get : " not able to fin package...
[18:02] <hitsujiTMO> pfifo: thats just ubuntu server ... its prob referring to maas and juju which are free
[18:02] <dysuki> deego, thanks
[18:02] <yeats> !find linux-firmware-nonfree
[18:03] <jmgk> hm
[18:03] <Pinch97> I tried to install 13.10 alongside windows 7 but when it restarted my pc it said the installation had failed.
[18:03] <mojtaba> Hi after upgrading to 13.10 when my laptop wake up after sleep the network become disconnected and needs a restart to be connected again. Do you know what should I do? (dell studio 1555)
[18:03] <deego> UrielVigilant: check your sources.list
[18:03] <yeats> !info linux-firmware-nonfree
[18:03] <UrielVigilant> i do :   sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer , and i get no able to find package , iam with ubuntu 13.10 pen usb persiten mode
[18:03] <rafael_> t50
[18:03] <pfifo> hitsujiTMO: in my mind 'cloud' means a large amount of computers... if I install ubuntu cloud... im I connecting my computer to someone elses computers?
[18:04] <yeats> UrielVigilant: deego is right - sounds like you're missing a repo
[18:04] <UrielVigilant> yeats: how do i do that
[18:04] <streulma> how can I run Windows 7 in Ubuntu virtually ?
[18:04] <hitsujiTMO> pfifo, you can use maas and juju to install and manage your own cloud system
[18:04] <UrielVigilant> i already did : sudo apt-get update
[18:04] <Patero-ng> I have 2 images of a game and I know one of them is corrupt and the other one isn't I have the right hash number but I want to know how to see if a certain file belongs to that hash, both files have the same file size
[18:04] <reisio> streulma: via VirtualBox would be the most straightforward way
[18:04] <UrielVigilant> deego: how do i do that ?
[18:04] <streulma> hi reisio :)
[18:05] <reisio> Patero-ng: what sort of hash?
[18:05] <yeats> UrielVigilant: open 'Software & Updates' and make sure the multiverse source is selected
[18:05] <Patero-ng> one that tells me if a file is the right one
[18:05] <reisio> Patero-ng: can I see it?
[18:05] <Patero-ng> the hash?
[18:05] <reisio> yes
[18:06] <Hackwar> I got a small server with 2 disks for data right now. I later want to extend that to 4 disks. I wanna do a ZFS on that. What type of Vdev do I take? I want the data to be mirrored. Do I have any choice in that case?
[18:06] <Patero-ng> some crc command gave it to me
[18:06] <reisio> Patero-ng: okay
[18:06] <rafael_> how to install t50?
[18:06] <reisio> Patero-ng: probably cksum, then
[18:07] <cybb112> hi guys, can anybody explain to me, why a chess engine has a bigger CPU hunger under Ubuntu (it seems to be a Linux issue in general), than under Windows 7? If I run the Stockfish4 engine, I get around a maximum of 30% CPU load per core under Windows 7, but under Ubuntu 13.10 the chess engine process constantly eats up 95% of the CPU load on all 4 cores.
[18:07] <UrielVigilant> yeats: iam with the window opened, but icant find that word multiverve no where ....
[18:07] <bekks> cybb112: The code differs.
[18:07] <hitsujiTMO> Patero-ng: also try md5sum or sha1sum
[18:08] <yeats> UrielVigilant: "Software restricted by copyright or other issues (multiverse)"
[18:08] <__raven> any way to disable power but allow data on usb?
[18:08] <bekks> __raven: No.
[18:08] <UrielVigilant> no i see, just ckeck
[18:08] <hitsujiTMO> cybb112: you'd have to ask the developer
[18:08] <rafael_> how to install t50?
[18:08] <pfifo> __raven: with a pair of wire snips
[18:08] <cybb112> bekks: so it's not an issue related to the Operating system.
[18:08] <mojtaba> Hi after upgrading to 13.10 when my laptop wake up after sleep the network become disconnected and needs a restart to be connected again. Do you know what should I do? (dell studio 1555)
[18:08] <georg> hi, does anyone how to install the intel  graphics installer // libpackagekit-glib2-14 as the depency is broken in 13.10
[18:08] <georg> ?
[18:09] <bekks> cybb112: Correct.
[18:09] <UrielVigilant> yeats: i already ckecked but it still not find the package after :  sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[18:09] <UrielVigilant> needs to restart?
[18:09] <yeats> UrielVigilant: do 'sudo apt-get update'
[18:09] <aaron__> Hello all
[18:10] <reisio> 'lo
[18:10] <aaron__> I have a problem with the permissions on a folder.
[18:10] <sarge1221> Hello. Can someone tell me of a bare bones linux where I can build it customly?
[18:10] <bekks> sarge1221: You can do that with every linux.
[18:10] <SchrodingersScat> !details | aaron__
[18:10] <supergauntlet> sarge1221: ubuntu minimal
[18:10] <supergauntlet> sarge1221: or debian netinstall
[18:10] <aaron__> working on it....lol
[18:11] <Infandum> I have Windows 8 and I want to bomb the whole thing and put Ubuntu Gnome 13.10 on it. I want to choose the first option to wipe everything, but I also want to use btrfs. How can I use btrfs with an automated installer so I don't have to manually partition?
[18:11] <Pinch97> I tried to install 13.10 alongside windows 7 but when it restarted my pc it said the installation had failed and asked me to send a bug report.
[18:11] <OerHeks> sarge1221, you can use launchpad to start your own repository and use their building service
[18:11] <jetro__> hey guys, I have windows 7, and I tried installing ubuntu through a cd I burned on a partition I created. However, ubuntu failed to install, and windows 7 won't start up any more. Has this happened to anyone before?
[18:11] <supergauntlet> Infandum: Why do you want to use btrfs?
[18:11] <Pinch97> jetro_: i think its like what happened to me
[18:11] <Basil1x> I have 4 ACPI Warnings... System seems to be operating fine, but is there a way to fix them anyway?  Ubuntu13.10 Lenovo G570 i5
[18:11] <pfifo> sarge1221: if you want to build it yourself (as in compile the sources yourself) then you might want to look at a source distro
[18:11] <hitsujiTMO> sarge1221: maybe look up http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[18:11] <sarge1221> bekks: right... tell that to apt-get versus aptitude alsa oss pulseaudio blah blah blah. the list goes on and on for annoyances. I want something i can play frankestein's monster with since it seems the dev are more problematic than anything.
[18:11] <supergauntlet> Infandum: It's still very beta, if you do a hard shutdown you'll see data corruption from what I can tell
[18:11] <hp_> Bonjour
[18:11] <supergauntlet> hitsujiTMO: oh lord please no
[18:11] <bekks> jetro__: You messed up the bootloader, I guess.
[18:11] <cybb112> bekks: other topic: Do you know of a way how to install Ubuntu on a partition with custom mount options.
[18:12] <supergauntlet> I don't think that's what he wants hitsujiTMO
[18:12] <jmgk> hm
[18:12] <hp_> Bonjour.
[18:12] <aaron__> its my download folder. It was never like this before. Whenever I try to download from browser it gives me permission denied and the folder shows up locked in my file manager now
[18:12] <hp_> Bonjour
[18:12] <aaron__> I can bypass by running firefox as su, but i dont really want to do that everytime
[18:12] <cybb112> The Ubuntu installer doesn't allow me to set mount options, such as compression for btrfs during installation
[18:12] <aaron__> and chromium wont let me do that
[18:12] <bekks> sarge1221: And how does all that affect the fact that you actually can customize every linux?
[18:12] <sarge1221> also for the record i hate gnome 3 with a passion and unity.
[18:12] <jetro__> bekks, I think you are right. Do you know how I can fix it?
[18:12] <bekks> cybb112: Thats correct.
[18:12] <supergauntlet> aaron__: go to your home directory and run ls -l | grep Downloads and tell us what it says
[18:12] <Infandum> supergauntlet: Yikes, I heard it was in good stable condition. The main reason is that I saw horror storries with SSD EXT4 online.
[18:12] <bekks> !grub2 | jetro__
[18:13] <supergauntlet> Infandum: google about it, I might be wrong
[18:13] <hitsujiTMO> supergauntlet: well, thats the answer i given to such an open ended question :P
[18:13] <supergauntlet> Infandum: it's still beta though
[18:13] <T3kniX> join #lubuntu
[18:13] <supergauntlet> hitsujiTMO: lol
[18:13] <pfifo> cybb112: you might want to install with debootstrap
[18:13] <supergauntlet> hitsujiTMO: I think Arch or Gentoo might be more his thing
[18:13] <Infandum> supergauntlet: True, but I figure I wouldn't wear out my SDD though.
[18:13] <cybb112> pfifo: why not make it available in the installer
[18:13] <supergauntlet> hitsujiTMO: or just debian net if he wants to be lightweight
[18:13] <SchrodingersScat> aaron__: you should check the permissions, look for who the owner is, you might have changed it to root by mistake
[18:13] <supergauntlet> Infandum: I should look into that too
[18:13] <sarge1221> bekks: go lookup HP pavilion dv5 1004nr and that will answer your question. graphic card issues and soundcard issues on every version of linux thus far.
[18:13] <jetro__> ubottu, I had windows installed already and was trying to install ubuntu
[18:13] <Patero-ng> where is a safe place to download md5?
[18:13] <supergauntlet> Infandum: I have xubuntu on an SSD so..
[18:14] <supergauntlet> Patero-ng: what do you mean?
[18:14] <pfifo> cybb112: go right ahead, software patches can be submitted on launchpad.net
[18:14] <another_georg> hi, does anyone how to install the intel  graphics installer in 13.10 // libpackagekit-glib2-14 as  depency is not available in 13.10?
[18:14] <supergauntlet> another_georg: its in the kernel
[18:14] <jetro__> bekks, I had windows installed already and was trying to install ubuntu
[18:14] <supergauntlet> isn't it?
[18:14] <SchrodingersScat> aaron__: you can run: ls -lahd Downloads/  #and get some information
[18:14] <bekks> sarge1221: Which still does not affect the fact that you can customize every linux.
[18:14] <bekks> sarge1221: Do you have a specific ubuntu support question?
[18:14] <jetro__> bekks, it's hard for me to articulate everything in words, here are some screen shots: http://imgur.com/a/vYMQ6
[18:15] <supergauntlet> so many join/part messages
[18:15] <aaron__> drwx------ 7 root  root   4096 Oct  8 15:34 Downloads
[18:15] <another_georg> so why is my graphic performance worse in 13.10 than in 13.04 with the Intel Installer? Laptop getting hotter and louder.... :(
[18:15] <SchrodingersScat> aaron__: from there you can try using chown and chmod to make it so you can change those files, but be careful that you don't overwrite the permissions of others
[18:15] <another_georg> ?
[18:15] <sarge1221> bekks: oh but it does when you have no sound and every linux boots into fallback mode every time you boot it up. I want a stripped down basically give me the parts I'll assemble the car since you seem to just break it everytime I start to introduce a couple of new pieces into the mix to fix problems already present.
[18:15] <supergauntlet> aaron__: from the console run sudo chown <your username> Downloads -R
[18:15] <bekks> sarge1221: Do you have a specific ubuntu support question?
[18:16] <SchrodingersScat> aaron__: so I would think something like 'sudo chown aaron:aaron Downloads/' might help, where aaron is whatever your user is
[18:16] <SchrodingersScat> aaron__: that command can be made recursive, too
[18:16] <another_georg> hm, maybe it is the  second graphic card Nvidia opteron thats used more than before....?
[18:17] <pfifo> so, I guess the 13.10 iso filesize bug is not resolved?
[18:17] <supergauntlet> another_georg: what?
[18:17] <supergauntlet> pfifo: what bug?
[18:17] <Patero-ng> supergauntlet because there are many websites claiming to allow download of that program and I don't want injected spyware
[18:17] <Pinch97> probly not piffo.
[18:17] <supergauntlet> Patero-ng: what program, md5?
[18:17] <Patero-ng> md5sum
[18:17] <SchrodingersScat> aaron__: but yes, running firefox as root was not a good answer, you were correct to doubt it as anything more than a temp fix
[18:17] <supergauntlet> Patero-ng: it should be built into ubuntu...
[18:17] <pfifo> supergauntlet: the 13.10 iso filesize bug
[18:17] <supergauntlet> There's a filesize bug?
[18:18] <supergauntlet> first I've heard of it
[18:18] <Guest75387> can i discuss nfs related issues?
[18:18] <aaron__> K, that fixed the problem. Thanks a lot superguantlet and schrod. I just couldnt figure how how I may have accidentally done it and i was reading on chmod and chown but havent used much and wasnt familiar
[18:18] <pfifo> supergauntlet: yes, it seems the iso not being able to fit on a CD is a bug. which sucks for me, I dont have any DVDs
[18:18] <supergauntlet> pfifo: lol
[18:18] <supergauntlet> That's intended I believe, sorry to say
[18:18] <yeats> pfifo: not a bug - that's by design over the last couple/few releases
[18:19] <supergauntlet> pfifo: hold on though
[18:19] <aaron__> although I am sorry that you are dead now that I have seen you schrodinger.....lol
[18:19] <yeats> !mini | pfifo
[18:19] <imark> can anyone give me a tip on how to get the version nickname from the terminal, I need a quick way of grabbing "raring" or "saucy" or whichever to use in a script
[18:19] <SchrodingersScat> aaron__: I think the default chmod for that was 755, but you can do as you please :)
[18:19] <supergauntlet> yeats: basically was gonna say this
[18:19] <imark> literally just the one word,
[18:20] <SchrodingersScat> aaron__: am i dead or not?
[18:20] <pfifo> yeats: I read that it is a bug
[18:20] <yeats> imark: cat '/etc/lsb-release'
[18:20] <another_georg> supergauntlet: I have an asus n76v laptop with 2 graphic cards as an alternative to my macbook
[18:20] <another_georg> and usually the linux is more fun
[18:20] <aaron__> schrodingerscat: yeah, thats where I need to study up on chmod, i dont get the numbers and everything yet
[18:20] <imark> yeats: just the one work, for a script
[18:20] <imark> word
[18:20] <aaron__> only if I see you
[18:20] <imark> lowercase
[18:20] <crundar> for chmod, you can usually use letter combinations to get you by
[18:21] <crundar> chmod a+x, for instance
[18:21] <crundar> x eXecute
[18:21] <malinus> how can I use cd with sudo? It always tells me that command doesn't exsist
[18:21] <sarge1221> a resource on how to build linux from just terminal base. I want to be able to run linux with apt-get and not aptitude. I want app-armor and ufw. I want to run oss audio as much as I am able to. I want a kernal that runs the non-free device drivers from the beginning etc. I want to basically make my own linux I guess? Pick and choose what I know works and remove everythign else that doesn't.
[18:21] <crundar> etc
[18:21] <another_georg> but now my  power consumption is way up ....
[18:21] <yeats> imark: 'lsb_release -c | awk '{print $2}''
[18:21] <MO_Handes> can somebody please give me the regex for this? <li><a href="some variable text" title="some variable text">WANTED TEXT</a></li>
[18:21] <another_georg> and the laptop gets hotter than before
[18:21] <crundar> sarge1221: have you considered a different distro that's a bit more geared toward doing that sort of thing
[18:21] <crundar> arch or gentoo?
[18:21] <Basil1x> sarge1221: Try LFS ;)
[18:22] <shpinog> русские есть?
[18:22] <supergauntlet> Basil1x: lol
[18:22] <yeats> !ru | shpinog
[18:22] <geirha> malinus: You can't. chdir changes the directory of the current process. chdir() is what cd calls, however, sudo is a new child process of the shell, and cd is a builtin (since it doesn't make sense for it to be external)
[18:22] <pfifo> sarge1221: yes LFS is what you described
[18:22] <crundar> if you're into that sort of fun. personally, I'm much happier not /having/ to dig into the entrails to get it doing what I want it to do
[18:22] <supergauntlet> sarge1221: closest you'll get is debian netinstall or ubuntu minimal with a custom kernel
[18:23] <shpinog>  ubottu: how i can registration ?
[18:23] <imark> yeats: thanks
[18:23] <imark> perfect
[18:23] <yeats> imark: happy to assist
[18:23] <geirha> malinus: If you want to run a command with sudo, in a particular dir, either cd first, then run sudo, or wrap a shell around it, e.g.  sudo bash -c 'cd /some/path && the_command'
[18:24] <crundar> I've been having a really strange bug under 12.10
[18:24] <malinus> geirha, yeah the directory is only accessible by root
[18:24] <crundar> ubuntu thinks my wireless keyboard is a laptop battery
[18:24] <yeats> imark: actually 'lsb_release -cs' is even better
[18:24] <crundar> or, more precisely, that my wireless keyboard's battery is a laptop battery, and treating it as such
[18:24] <sarge1221> supergauntlet: I'm using debian 7.0 atm. Not recommended since it is having a slew of development issues. I tried to install cinnamon desktop only for it to have confliction issues with gnome resources and the package managers for aptitude and apt-get have messed up my package list completely.
[18:24] <pixlepix> Hmm
[18:25] <pixlepix> Having a problem
[18:25] <crundar> it's been causing issues with upower, and general unhappinesss with my wireless keyboard (logitech device with proprietary driver)
[18:25] <pixlepix> I'm out in the middle of no where
[18:25] <pixlepix> No USB sticks/blank CD drives
[18:25] <pixlepix> And I want to dual boot ubuntu :P
[18:25] <Basil1x> sarge1221: Hon... ick.  Pick a not-screwed distro, and call me back.
[18:25] <faugusztin> pixlepix: then go in middle of somewhere :)
[18:25] <pixlepix> Macbook pro, OSX
[18:26] <pixlepix> I have grub installed
[18:26] <pixlepix> From a previous installation of ubuntu
[18:26] <sarge1221> Basil1x: I don't think one exists at this time. Why don't you go make us one?
[18:26] <pixlepix> Booting up grub from refit gives 'error: partition not found"
[18:26] <Basil1x> Done and done. :D
[18:26] <SchrodingersScat> pixlepix: so, can grub load the iso then install from there?
[18:26] <supergauntlet> Basil1x: I dunno, debian is pretty solid usually
[18:26] <pfifo> pixlepix: you can get grub2 to boot an iso image
[18:26] <supergauntlet> I don't know what happenned with sarge1221's install, that seems really strange
[18:27] <another_georg> exit
[18:27] <pixlepix> How?
[18:27] <jetro__> So anyone know what I can do about this: http://imgur.com/a/vYMQ6
[18:27] <pfifo> pixlepix: first try to figure it out yourself before asking for support
[18:27] <Basil1x> Well... he's having tribbles, supergauntlet.  Just though taking a butchers at another distro might help.  Even if only in the appreciating-what-he-has arena.
[18:27] <pixlepix> I have been :P
[18:28] <supergauntlet> jetro__: Honestly? Reinstall windows
[18:28] <imark> yeats: even better thanks
[18:28] <supergauntlet> jetro__: then install ubuntu again
[18:28] <Infandum> If I made a system image of Windows 8 including the efi partition, the operationg system partition, etc., if I wipe it all and put ubuntu on and then decide later for critical reasons I need windows, can I restore all of windows onto the empty disk from the image?
[18:28] <supergauntlet> jetro__: I don't know if theres anything else you can do
[18:28] <sarge1221> supergauntlet: it it is so solid why am I forced to use aptitude for package management? and yes if you don't apt-get will break your manager. It tried to get me to basically auto remove my entire gnome 3 base out of linux which would break it. xD
[18:28] <Pinch97> Hi. My Ubuntu 13.10 installed earlier, it restarted and then decided it did not install and told me it was stopped half way through and did not finish. I posted this (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1242081) but don't understand the comment.
[18:28] <supergauntlet> jetro__: Unless ubuntu detects the windows installation while windows startup repair doesnt
[18:28] <jetro__> supergauntlet, but then I will lose all my programs, etc :(
[18:28] <crundar> during upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04, the terminal had a message reading in part "this likely means your installation is broken"
[18:28] <crundar> the installation is still going on
[18:29] <crundar> should that be worrying me
[18:29] <shpinog>  /join #ubuntu-ru
[18:29] <crundar> where's the log file generated during a dist-
[18:29] <supergauntlet> jetro__: Try installing with linux again, perhaps grub will detect it
[18:29] <shpinog> join #ubuntu-ru
[18:29] <crundar> err dist-upgrade
[18:29] <jetro__> supergauntlet, I think ubuntu does detect the windows installation, because if I run ubuntu from the cd, then try to install, it gives the option to install alongside windows
[18:29] <supergauntlet> sarge1221: I've actually never had that happen but that sounds like more of an apt-get bug than a debian one
[18:29] <crundar> I'd like to take a look; the terminal had some suggestion for a workaround, and I'd like to know what that suggestion is.
[18:29] <supergauntlet> jetro__: hmm, interesting
[18:31] <vortex_ape> Hello, I am on ubuntu 12.10
[18:31] <vortex_ape> and want to add a keyboard shortcut for Konsole which I just installed
[18:32] <vortex_ape> what should I write in the command field in keyboard shortcuts in system settings?
[18:32] <pfifo> pixlepix: heres my grub.cfg, it should help http://fpaste.org/48009/38220749/
[18:32] <Authrax> Anyone know if it is possible to force Skype to connect with a SOCKS5 proxy on Ubuntu like you can with Windows registry entries (like so: http://imgur.com/a/NpFdW)?
[18:32] <Pinch97> Can somebody help me with Bug #1242081
[18:33] <jetro__> supergauntlet, if I try to install alongside windows it doesn't work though, it just crashes. If you want, I can take a picture
[18:33] <sarge1221> supergauntlet: Would there be away to customize a linux from scratch? I could pick and choose what package manager it runs, make it run nautilus, ufw, apparmor, idebi package manager, utilize thecinnamon desktop environment. Just want ot pick and choose what I want from the beginning.
[18:33] <SchrodingersScat> Authrax: proxychains was a good wrapper, you'd still have to check for leaks
[18:33] <pfifo> sarge1221: LFS dosent have a package manager
[18:33] <crundar> I've been having a problem getting keyboard shortcuts that use Alt to work in ubuntu 12.10 over my wireless keyboard.
[18:33] <crundar> That seemed strang
[18:34] <vortex_ape> please help to setup custom keyboard shortcuts
[18:34] <crundar> hm. somehow I lost it on my wired keyboard as well.
[18:34] <vortex_ape> what should I add in the command field
[18:34] <crundar> shortcuts with just Ctrl seem to work fine.
[18:34] <supergauntlet> jetro__: Yeah, what error message does it say?
[18:34] <Rexter> when I make a synlink to an executable script, it doesn't open the same. what's the right way to do it?
[18:34] <sarge1221> pfifo: what is LPS?
[18:35] <supergauntlet> sarge1221: ubuntu minimal sounds like what you want honestly
[18:35] <sarge1221> pfifo: what is LFS?*
[18:35] <crundar> Rexter, meaning you execute the symlink
[18:35] <jmgk> hm
[18:35] <jetro__> supergauntlet, 1 second, getting a picture
[18:35] <crundar> is it  a permissioning issue?
[18:35] <pfifo> sarge1221: LFS is, linux from scratch, their website is http:/www.linuxfromscratch.org
[18:35] <yeats> sarge1221: it's another distro, unrelated to ubuntu
[18:35] <sarge1221> supergauntlet: I would prefer to remain away from ubuntu since i ran into strange issues using compiz.
[18:36] <supergauntlet> sarge1221: you can use ubuntu without using compiz
[18:36] <supergauntlet> and ubuntu minimal is basically debian unstable netinstall with upstart and ppas
[18:36] <sarge1221> supergauntlet: would boot up firefox missing close window buttons and was prone ot crash often, I tried to install something else besides compiz and it just made me boot into terminal base.
[18:36] <vortex_ape> What should I add in the command field in the custom keyboard shortcuts?
[18:37] <crundar> vortex_ape: what command you want it to perform or program you want it to execute when you issue that command
[18:37] <crundar> vortex_ape: for instance, gnome-terminal
[18:37] <sarge1221> pfifo: thank you. I'll check them out. :)
[18:37] <crundar> would open a terminal (assuming you're using gnome, etc)
[18:38] <vortex_ape> ctrl+alt+t
[18:38] <vortex_ape> for konsole
[18:39] <crundar> you ought to just be able to write konsole there, and then have it do it's thing when you execute it.
[18:39] <jmgk> hm
[18:39] <crundar> if that's not working, then we'll try a couple of tests, and give that a shot
[18:39] <crundar> my usual go-to test is eog
[18:40] <crundar> 'cause I've never had that program not work
[18:40] <crundar> but whatever the kde equivalent is
[18:40] <yeats> jmgk: do you have a question?
[18:40] <darkelfjuggalo> i got the upgrade notificaion from 13.04 to 13.10 earlier, and began it.. but my power flipped and I lost it... i tried sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to get it back and i didn't get the upgrade i was looking for, how do I restart the upgrade?
[18:40] <whoever> hi all, anyone here using an ups? what appllication do you use to controle it
[18:41] <bekks> whoever: the webinterface of the APS UPS.
[18:42] <hitsujiTMO> sarge1221: maybe you should try ubuntu server ... it's effectively just a console install ... you can even install a minimal system with it.
[18:43] <reisio> whoever: nut
[18:43] <sarge1221> hitsujiTMO: Tried server edition and it did work pretty well but that was during gnome 2 days and all this crazy outlandish nonsense going on nowadays. Thanks for the advice anyways though.
[18:43] <jetro__> supergauntlet, after choosing "Install Ubuntu inside Windows 7" within a few secs, it said "Please remove installation media and close tray (if any) then press ENTER" (I did, and the computer just restarted, and I am back where I started, no ubuntu, windows 7 not starting)
[18:43] <sarge1221> hitsujiTMO: before*
[18:44] <supergauntlet> well shit.
[18:44] <hitsujiTMO> sarge1221: maybe you should be asking this question in ##linux
[18:44] <jetro__> supergauntlet, no hope?
[18:44] <parduse> any donwside using ubuntu server with win7 using wmware player?
[18:44] <supergauntlet> jetro__: I don't think so
[18:44] <supergauntlet> parduse: hmm?
[18:44] <supergauntlet> what are you trying to do?
[18:44] <sarge1221> hitsujiTMO: maybe there should be a readme on general linux education. Wouldn't that be nice to have in all those outdated and poorly written man pages? :P
[18:44] <hitsujiTMO> parduse: it takes up space, and ram and uses your cpu?
[18:45] <parduse> i am thinking of using them at the same time on a server pc
[18:45] <supergauntlet> parduse: okay, so what would be the host?
[18:45] <parduse> win7
[18:45] <whoever> reisio: ok , i just ran across apcupsd, i assume nut is more general(not specific to one brand) does not have a gui (just for s&gs , i know i don't need one ) but notification like libpopup
[18:45] <linuxtech> <darkelfjuggalo: My brother is in a similiar situation and I was thinking he run do-release-upgrade.
[18:45] <supergauntlet> parduse: i mean it'd work
[18:46] <parduse> i think my old pc with 1gb ram and a sempron 1700 cpu will handle it
[18:46] <darkelfjuggalo> do i need to sudo apt-get that, linuxtech?
[18:46] <whoever> err ... i am torrn between two ups , what to pick: apc http://www.amazon.com/APC-BE550G-Back-UPS-Outlet-550VA/dp/B0019804U8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1382204624&sr=8-1&keywords=apc  and eaton : http://www.amazon.com/Eaton-US550VA-5-15P-5-15R-4-UPS/dp/B005EIGUDE/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1382203360&sr=8-5&keywords=eaton+ups
[18:46] <yeats> parduse: you'd do better dual booting with that little RAM
[18:46] <bekks> whoever: thats not related to ubuntu, isnt it?
[18:46] <whoever> bekks: not directly
[18:47] <linuxtech> darkelfjuggalo: Just run do-release-upgrade.
[18:47] <bekks> whoever: Then please keep it in th offtopic channel :)
[18:47] <whoever> bekks: +-)
[18:47] <parduse> in that case i cannot remote choose which os to start, afaik
[18:47] <hitsujiTMO> parduse: i dont even thing win7 will run on that system (not in a usable state anyhow)
[18:48] <linuxtech> darkelfjuggalo: If it doesn't work, you can try apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:48] <yeats> parduse: you wouldn't be happy running a VM of any sort with that little RAM
[18:48] <darkelfjuggalo> it is working... the dist-upgrade didn't
[18:49] <parduse> it wont be doing much, some works for for win7 and some for linux, that was why i was asking. Okay thank you all very much for your participation
[18:49] <Rexter> crundar; I'm truing to put an icon of my desktop for the TOR bundle. start-tor-browser is a shell script. I just want a link to it on the desktop.
[18:51] <zykotick9> !dist-upgrade | darkelfjuggalo dist-upgrade is very misunderstood.
[18:51] <Guest18750> i'am connect
[18:52] <Reacto> How do I stop xconf/nvidia-settings from resetting on every reboot?
[18:52] <Reacto> I've written the settings to the xconf file as root, but it didn't help
[18:52] <zykotick9> Reacto: use "gksudo nvidia-setting-WHATEVER" then use the "save to xorg.conf" button (should work)
[18:53] <Reacto> I just did, didn't help :/
[18:53] <linuxtech> !upgrade-failed
[18:54] <Reacto> can try unchecking merge with existing file
[18:54] <shpinog> 123
[18:54] <shpinog> help
[18:54] <shpinog> помо
[18:54] <shpinog> !ask
[18:54] <shpinog> !help
[18:54] <ermac_> how do i install intel drivers
[18:54] <TheLordOfTime> shpinog, just ask your question, we can't read your mind about what your issue is.
[18:55] <ermac_> if it asks for dependency
[18:55] <Reacto> however zykotick9, is there anything I can do to make it stop glitching at the edge of the monitor? Sometimes the cursor just gets stuck there for a few seconds, really annoying
[18:55] <shpinog> !login
[18:55] <shpinog> @shpinog
[18:55] <shpinog> @login
[18:55] <zykotick9> Reacto: i have no idea... good luck.
[18:55] <Reacto> hah, thanks anyway
[18:56] <shpinog> !login
[18:56] <presonic> just freshly installed ubuntu 13.10, trying to install xchat but it wont let me install, when i click 'more info', it says 'availabe from the "universe" source'
[18:56] <shpinog> @shpinog 123
[18:56] <shpinog> '
[18:56] <shpinog> !sup
[18:56] <hitsujiTMO> shpinog: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[18:56] <shpinog> !ask
[18:56] <shpinog> !login
[18:57] <shpinog> !@login
[18:57] <linuxtech> !upgrade
[18:57] <streulma> should I install Ubuntu in English or my main language ?
[18:57] <MonkeyDust> streulma  what's suits you best
[18:58] <streulma> MonkeyDust: English is not so good
[18:58] <ermac_> go native
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> presonic, hit edit-software sources and make sure the universal tab is ticked
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> presonic, if it is not tick run a update then install.
[18:59] <lasindi> Hi, I just upgraded to 13.10 and have a Radeon card. I tried going to Settings -> Details and it says "Graphics: VESA" but in my xorg.conf it says to use fglrx. Could it be that the Settings page is wrong? Or is my xorg.conf not working?
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> presonic, you have to run a update on a fresh install to sync the repos anyway.
[18:59] <jhutchins> streulma: You can have both.  Probably easiest to do the install in your native language.
[19:00] <jhutchins> streulma: The actual code within the binaries is the same, but output selects from different libraries for different languages, so you can set a different language for just one command if you want.
[19:00] <Dysfucction> I'm having issues with my mouse. I upgraded to 13.04 from 12.10, and installed Steam and TF2 shortly afterwards. Ever since I launched TF2, my USB mouse stopped working.
[19:01] <hitsujiTMO> lasindi: run: fglrxinfo
[19:01] <jhutchins> Dysfucction: Have you shut down steam and TF2?
[19:01] <geirha> lasindi: It probably means it tried to load fglrx, but failed to get it to work with your graphics card, and reverted to VESA which is pretty safe. If this is the case, /var/log/Xorg.0.log should contain clues about it
[19:01] <Dysfucction> Yes.
[19:01] <jhutchins> Dysfucction: Have you rebooted?
[19:02] <Dysfucction> Yes.
[19:02] <lasindi> hitsujiTMO, it says: "OpenGL renderer string: AMD Radeon HD 7520G" ... conclusive evidence?
[19:02] <parduse> .
[19:03] <presonic> wilee-nilee: 'universe' is checked in the Software & Updates dialog
[19:03] <presonic> i need to run an 'update' ? to sync repos?
[19:04] <presonic> wilee-nilee: nm, im having connection problems
[19:04] <presonic> when i first login internet seems to work, then it stops working
[19:04] <jetro__> I cant seem to connect the internet on ubuntu (I am on a laptop and am trying to connect wirelessly), when I run ifconfig I just see eth0 and lo
[19:04] <hitsujiTMO> lasindi: does it tell you what display and screen it is using?
[19:05] <lasindi> hitsujiTMO, display 0 screen 0
[19:06] <xtriz> what is vim.tiny ?
[19:06] <AncientTech> Been burning DVDs and now after updating drive media not detected. Ubunto 13,
[19:06] <wilee-nilee> jetro__, run lspci in terminal and identify the wifi hardware
[19:06] <zykotick9> xtriz: vim-tiny is basically vi, not vim.
[19:06] <jhutchins> xtriz: Very minimal implementation of the vim editor.
[19:07] <paulgureghian> hi
[19:07] <jhutchins> xtriz: It's a lot like the original vi without the later conveniences like visual blocks.
[19:07] <xtriz> jhutchins, zykotick9  nice to know.
[19:07] <xtriz> :)
[19:07] <paulgureghian> any ubuntu pros here?
[19:08] <jetro__> wilee-nilee, it seems to be broadcom corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN controller (rev 01)
[19:08] <bekks> !anyone | paulgureghian
[19:08] <jhutchins> xtriz: Most systems install it by default.  Some sytems even constrain the root account to using it for some reason.  (I think it's where it's installed on the system, more likeley to be accessible in an emergency).
[19:08] <jetro__> wilee-nilee, not sure what to do with that information though
[19:09] <jhutchins> paulgureghian: That being someone who is paid to work on or with ubuntu?
[19:09] <xtriz> jhutchins, is vim.tiny ubuntu's implementation ?
[19:09] <auronandace> !b43 | jetro__
[19:09] <jhutchins> xtriz: No, the different versions are all upstream as far as I know.
[19:09] <xtriz> !poll
[19:10] <xtriz> jhutchins, ok :)
[19:10] <tiina> hej hej jag måste ladda ner på min dator helt ny installation av ubuntu ifrån usb stickan men den hittar inte usb stickan och jag kollade bios men den fanns inte där heller?
[19:10] <boran> hi
[19:10] <tiina> hej
[19:10] <bazhang> tiina, #ubuntu-se for svensk
[19:10] <ampw> how do i auto detect displays
[19:10] <boran> İ love boob's
[19:10] <ampw> in terminal
[19:10] <alxy> I have newest ubuntu now (13.10) and no idea how to configure empathy ... instructions in the internet seem to belong to different versions
[19:10] <paulgureghian> I installed 13.04 on a dual boot with windows 7
[19:11] <boran> İ HATE WİNDOWS
[19:11] <boran> WİNDOWS SUCKS
[19:11] <bazhang> boran, wrong place take it elsewhere
[19:11] <jmgk> uh
[19:11] <boran> WİNDOWS İS FOR İDİOT's
[19:11] <bazhang> boran, stop that
[19:11] <SchrodingersScat> !ops
[19:11] <boran> ok ok
[19:11] <_Trullo> I just started installing windows, http://i.imgur.com/g0Zgf6q.jpg
[19:11] <yeats> SchrodingersScat: bazhang is an op, FYI
[19:11] <SchrodingersScat> k
[19:11] <ampw> lol
[19:11] <tiina> Hi i dont know how to download to my computer a clean ubuntu from usb stick?
[19:11] <paulgureghian> then i damaged it by cutting wubi and wubildr.mbr from the root
[19:11] <boran> lol
[19:12] <crundar> well, I just finished the upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04. Time to restart, and see what I've destroyed
[19:12] <crundar> g'bye butters
[19:12] <boran> 3711
[19:12] <crundar> gooodbaaye
[19:12] <boran> 3711 disc
[19:12] <bekks> paulgureghian: wubi has nothing to do wiuth dualnboot. Wubi is an Ubuntu residing in a file in Windows.
[19:12] <ampw> tiina download ubuntu (version you want) then use dd to install it on a usb
[19:12] <tiina> Hi can anyone tell me how to download ubuntu to my computer from usb stick?
[19:12] <boran> You can use UUİ
[19:12] <jmgk> erm
[19:12] <tiina> what is dd?
[19:12] <genii> boran: As much as most of the people here are Ubuntu types, we still don't care for bashing of other operating systems.
[19:12] <yeats> !liveusb | tiina
[19:13] <jmgk> tiina,  USB burner
[19:13] <boran> UUİ is better
[19:13] <paulgureghian> i couldnt reboot into 13.04 anymore
[19:13] <tiina> Nothing over that link giving me advice I understood sorry?
[19:13] <paulgureghian> so i tried to install 13.10 over it
[19:13] <jmgk> hm
[19:13] <mojtaba> Hi after upgrading to 13.10 when my laptop wake up after sleep the network become disconnected and needs a restart to be connected again. Do you know what should I do? (dell studio 1555)
[19:13] <jmgk> paulgureghian,  reborn the iso maybe?
[19:13] <paulgureghian> and its not installing
[19:13] <jmgk> reburn
[19:13] <jmgk> odd
[19:13] <bekks> paulgureghian: You should not use Wubi at all, but setup a dualboot by installing Ubuntu alongside your Windows.
[19:13] <jmgk> redownload the iso
[19:13] <FloodBot1> jmgk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:14] <tiina> I already have downloaded and booted ubuntu on usb stick but computer dosent know usb stick?
[19:14] <paulgureghian> on a seperate partition
[19:14] <bekks> paulgureghian: Yes.
[19:14] <yeats> tiina: you might need to enable USB booting the BIOS?
[19:14] <mustafa> hi ....i have a problem with power outage >>>>all the time........this is actially the envioment that are meant for the server to work on >>>>am i going to have a trouble with RAID 1 ....on such enviroment>>>?
[19:15] <yeats> !ot | mustafa
[19:15] <paulgureghian> i have to resize the partition table
[19:16] <Rory> mustafa: If you have bad power, consider purchasing a UPS (uninterruptable Power Supply) which is a short-term battery which sits between your server and the power grid. The size of UPS you get will depend on the power requirements of the server, and how long the power is usually out for.
[19:16] <bekks> paulgureghian: No. The Ubuntu installer when booting the ubuntu installation cd will do it for you if you tell it to do so.
[19:17] <paulgureghian> how bout if i use a usb
[19:17] <paulgureghian> i dont get partioning options
[19:17] <bekks> paulgureghian: Then the above applies exactly the same way.
[19:18] <tiina> Still dont understand how to install ubuntu to computer from usb stick please anyone who could help me?
[19:18] <yeats> tiina: what's not working?
[19:19] <tiina> yeats how do I boot BIOS?
[19:19] <tiina> nothing happens from my usb stick
[19:19] <bekks> tiina: You dont boot BIOS, you have to press a key (which one, is stated in the manual of your computer) to get into the BIOS.
 well i knew that .......but i mean i cant get it work 24/7 always ......the server must be shut down at a certain time .....because there is no electricity ......ups wouldnt going to work like for 12 hours .....and the server must be shut down ...directly from the power .....(envioment .....issue)
[19:19] <lululaplap_> Hello, when updating to 13.10, the software updater has frozen while in the installing the upgrades stage. What should I do?
[19:19] <yeats> tiina: depends on your manufacturer - there's usually a "press F2 to enter setup" or something like that when you first start the computer
[19:19] <tiina> I have boot a ubuntu in usb stick yet it dosent downloaded it on computer?
[19:20] <yeats> tiina: sometimse there's a boot option
[19:20] <tiina> yes but which one of them?
[19:20] <bekks> tiina: "boot from USB".
[19:20] <SchrodingersScat> tiina: depends on your machine, often an F key, but sometimes Del or Esc
[19:20] <tiina> I dont have shuch a thing in bios?
[19:20] <tiina> del
[19:21] <yeats> tiina: consult your computer's documentation for how to enter the BIOS or boot from other media
[19:21] <tiina> I have looked around in there yet I dont know what to do there?
 i knew that ubuntu ext4 is actially resistant to power outage ...but i want to make a RAID 1 active ..so i have heared that RAID fails at power outage
[19:21] <tiina> what is it what I need to lokk after at the bios?
[19:22] <tiina> look after at the bios?
[19:22] <yeats> tiina: look around in the menus for boot options
[19:22] <fishscene> tiina: Look for an option to boot from USB/flashdrive/thumbdrive
[19:22] <wilee-nilee> tiina, Your description is confusing lets get some details, what operating system is on the computer already is it windows 8 perchance?
[19:22] <tiina> I had a advanced bios?
[19:22] <bekks> tiina: We dont know which BIOS you have.
[19:22] <tiina> no i have ubuntu maverick yet want a clean ubuntu start
[19:23] <yeats> tiina: you'll need to consult your computer's documentation for that (as said before)
[19:23] <jmgk> hmm
[19:23] <wilee-nilee> tiina, use nicks here.
[19:23] <tiina> i dont have any computer documantaions
[19:23] <jmgk> odd
[19:24] <yeats> !behelpful | jmgk
[19:24] <tiina> just need to konw how to install CLEAN UBUNTU to my computer??
[19:24] <jmgk> oh SOrry
[19:24] <paulgureghian> call me at 818-988-5648
[19:24] <jmgk> paulgureghian,  this isnt an ad chat
[19:25] <yeats> tiina: to do that, you need to be able to boot from USB or CD - if you don't know how to do that, no one here can help
[19:25] <fishscene> tiina: It seems you are having trouble booting from the USB drive, so we are trying to assist with that. However, we need to know a bit about your computer to help you figure out how to boot from the USB stick. Do you know anything about the computer? IBM/Mac/Dell, and model number?
[19:25] <jmgk> hi
[19:25] <jmgk> How can I fix a WINE issue with DIrect X
[19:25] <tiina> YES I have troubles booting from usb
[19:25] <jmgk> hm
[19:25] <jmgk> brb
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> paulgureghian, Your phone number is now on the web world wide, not the brightest move.
[19:26] <tiina> I have amd quad core phenom
[19:26] <tiina> ubuntu maverick in it
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> !tab | tiina
[19:26] <MonkeyDust> tiina  maverick is !eol, dead
[19:27] <tiina> i know
[19:27] <Dustinwood> I have tremulous installed using the directions in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341403but it wont open or do anything for that matter. The tremulous icon does show up in applications. HELP PLOX
[19:27] <tiina> thats why i need to have an other ubuntu 12.10
[19:27] <tiina> or 13.10
[19:27] <MonkeyDust> tiina  you can't fix something that's dead
[19:27] <tiina> i dont want to fix maverick i want to install ubuntu 13.10
[19:28] <enthdegree> hello all
[19:28] <Dustinwood> hi
[19:28] <high_fiver> sup
[19:28] <enthdegree> how do i copy the screen clipboard to the X clipboar?
[19:28] <jaymitra> gk
[19:28] <bekks> tiina: Then you have to boot from USB. Maybe the manual of your computer can help you to set the boot option needed for booting from USB?
[19:29] <tiina> Dont have any documantations left of it this is old computer today...
[19:29] <tiina> I dont have any manual
[19:29] <wilee-nilee> tiina, YOu can get the manual on line.
[19:29] <yeats> tiina: if it's too old, it may not boot from USB at all
[19:30] <tiina> AMD QUAD CORE with PHENOM
[19:30] <wilee-nilee> a quad core will boot a usb
[19:30] <tiina> not too old
[19:30] <crundar> really interesting bug. I've got two keyboard layouts setup, us and us-dvorak on a 13.04 box. My keyboard shortcuts work with the first layout
[19:30] <crundar> but the keys don't switch in the second
[19:30] <bekks> tiina: Then you can download the manual.
[19:30] <killer> hey
[19:30] <tiina> dont have  any iPhone
[19:31] <fishscene> tiina: Is there any markings on the computer that say what company and model the computer is?
[19:31] <bekks> tiina: You dont need an iPhone for downloading things.
[19:31] <tiina> my computer is built buy a computer constructor
[19:31] <wilee-nilee> tiina, Find the manual online to find how to get to the bios, there is also a per session boot key press at powering on.
[19:31] <crundar> so, say, even in my dvorak layout, I have to hit Ctrl-Alt-<Location of qwerty T>
[19:31] <killer> how can I share my ubuntu laptop internet with my android phone
[19:31] <crundar> to opena  terminal
[19:31] <crundar> mighty odd
[19:31] <crundar> in addition, it's still doing that thing that it used to do under 12.10, wherein it treats my keyboard's battery like a laptop battery
[19:32] <crundar> mighty odd, that.
[19:32] <tiina> I know how to log in to bios but dont know what I need to look after  there for
[19:32] <cstewart> hi killer ....firestarter might be a easy gui that will share your internet connection
[19:32] <bekks> tiina: "Boot order", "boot options" or similar.
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> !ics
[19:32] <guest_____> I installed Ubuntu Gnome 13.10 and then Gnome 3.10 but hidpi is not turned on. How do I turn on hidpi?
[19:33] <Elico> anyone works with KVM on ubuntu as hypervisior to more then one node?
[19:33] <join_rinub> hi
[19:33] <tiina> Boot Advanced I have there...and then? after when I have logged in to that?
[19:33] <Dustinwood> I have tremulous installed using the directions in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341403but it wont open or do anything for that matter. The tremulous icon does show up in applications. HELP PLOX
[19:33] <yeats> !anyone | Elico
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> !anyone | Elico
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> Elico  is that ubuntu server? if yes: there's also #ubuntu-server
[19:33] <jesse---> does LoL run on ubuntu?
[19:34] <Dustinwood> no
[19:34] <Dustinwood> i tried
[19:34] <Dustinwood> lol
[19:34] <zykotick9> Dustinwood: try "tremulous" in a terminal, any error output?
[19:34] <Elico> ofcourse server..
[19:34] <jesse---> is it in any way possible.
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> jesse---, LoL?
[19:34] <jesse---> league of legends.
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> jesse---, check the web.
[19:34] <jesse---> i've been looking for months
[19:35] <jesse---> but i can't seem to find an install that will go in-game without crashing.
[19:35] <jesse---> even with crossover
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> jesse---, probably not if you find nothing. there is wine and play on linux as well.
[19:35] <jesse---> alot of issues with wine crashing
[19:35] <jesse---> even with the pre-reqs
[19:35] <jesse---> winetricks, ect
[19:35] <zykotick9> Dustinwood: in channel please...
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> jesse---, have you tried #windhq
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> #winehq
[19:37] <jesse---> i'll give both chaneels a try thank you.
[19:37] <Dustinwood> tremulous: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[19:38] <zykotick9> Dustinwood: well, that's the issue, you need libSDL-1.2.so.0 (for the games arch probably 32bit), best of luck.
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> jesse---, only one is correct the first is a typo
[19:38] <Dustinwood> thx
[19:39] <hxm> how can I read an imap account trought console?
[19:39] <Dustinwood> thx zyko
[19:39] <zykotick9> hxm: mutt perhaps
[19:40] <bscrew> How do I install cursors and cursor themes?
[19:41] <yeats> hxm: yeah, mutt works with imap
[19:42] <bscrew> anyone?
[19:43] <Authrax> Anyone know of any alternative proxy wrappers to proxychains that support UDP connections and SOCKS5?
[19:44] <cstewart> hi authrax, could i ask further questions like what are you trying to accomplish
[19:45] <Authrax> cstewart: Trying to force Skype to use a proxy so that people cannot use an IP resolver on my Skype account.
[19:45] <high_fiver> bscrew, unity tweak allows you to change cursor themes
[19:45] <aguitel> when i run :sudo update-grub . it take long time to finish ,why ?
[19:45] <cstewart> so we can use squid proxy to accomplish this
[19:46] <high_fiver> aguitel, how long does it take?
[19:46] <wilee-nilee> aguitel, You running this in a install?
[19:46] <aguitel> high_fiver, 10 minutes
[19:46] <cstewart> once you install squid proxy then enable a full resource set, after this is done tell the client pc to use a proxy and your away to the races
[19:47] <shdome> Hello, would anyone be able to point me to the right channel to ask a question about c++ coding on ubuntu?
[19:47] <aguitel> wilee-nilee, when i install new kernel or remove old kernel
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> aguitel, how are you installing and removing kernels?
[19:47] <Authrax> cstewart: I don't want the whole PC to be under a proxy, just the Skype application.
[19:47] <aguitel> wilee-nilee, from synaptic
[19:48] <aguitel> wilee-nilee, i choose the old kernel
[19:48] <MGMT> I'm looking at the compizconfig-settings-manager at grid settings for window tiling... it says ctrl-alt-KP3  what's KP3?  Nothing seems to happen when I press ctrl-alt-#3 key
[19:48] <streulma> what are suitable ntp servers ?
[19:48] <Marlenee> any one use MAAS pkg before i need some info about this pkg ???
[19:49] <Ari-Yang> aguitel: you can remove old kernels for e.g. by typing dpkg -l | grep linux-image in terminal then sudo dpkg -r linux-image-xxxx
[19:50] <aguitel> wilee-nilee, it not fail ,only take long time
[19:50] <aguitel> Ari-Yang, i have not old kernels right now
[19:50] <cstewart> I honestly don't know if this can be done.....i use macs and skype relys on system proxy settings so i have that setup and skype uses a proxy and so does safari, but firefox I have set to use a direct connection so no proxy but can this be done on windows i'm not sure
[19:51] <IdleOne> cstewart: you might try asking in ##windows, this is #ubuntu
[19:52] <cstewart> LOL idleone i'm answer the question SMA
[19:52] <aguitel> Ari-Yang, see that:http://bpaste.net/show/ocfSudlYbYctdTsBmwlB/
[19:53] <Authrax> cstewart: Any idea if there is a way to force the Skype application to connect to a proxy through the application itself, like how you can on Windows through registry entry (http://imgur.com/a/NpFdW)? Because, if I can do that on Ubuntu just like I could on Windows, that would be great.
[19:55] <cstewart> Looks like in windows if you google skype proxy connection the first result will show you the windows answers
[19:55] <Ari-Yang> aguitel: what about it?
[19:55] <Ari-Yang> :|
[19:55] <Authrax> cstewart: I'm not on Windows anymore, I'm on Ubuntu.
[19:56] <aguitel> Ari-Yang, no old kernel i have
[19:57] <Ari-Yang> aguitel: what's the output of uname -r ?
[19:58] <aguitel> Ari-Yang, 3.11.0-12-generic
[19:58] <Ari-Yang> okay, so you don't have old kernels..
[19:59] <aguitel> Ari-Yang,  i know
[19:59] <Ari-Yang> k
[20:00] <lululaplap_> hi, while updating to saucy during the "installing the upgrades" stage, the updater has frozen, what should I do? thanks you
[20:01] <jhutchins> I'm building a boot usb using debootstrap on /dev/sdc - how do I set up grub properly?  It will be /dev/sda on the target system.
[20:01] <CorpusCallosum> hi guys i am oftenly gettin E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. error. for example i am trying to install ruby-rvm. i am using 12.04
[20:02] <streulma> CorpusCallosum: sudo apt-get -f install
[20:02] <cstewart> maybe someone else that uses ubuntu can help....i'm a server ubuntu user to my desktop help is limited sorry bud
[20:02] <CorpusCallosum> streulma, i have already tried it and also clean, autoclean stuff too
[20:02] <jhutchins> cstewart: You are aware that skype is a Microsoft product?
[20:03] <cstewart> yes....for sure...use macs for desktops
[20:03] <streulma> jhutchins: :)
[20:03] <high_fiver> dun dun duhhh
[20:04] <cstewart> microsoft = evil
[20:04] <sumos> anybody know how to make these 3.10 upgrade messages stop?
[20:04] <streulma> sumos: yes
[20:04] <CorpusCallosum> any different solution suggest ?
[20:05] <sumos> i tried the "don't upgrade" button, but they just _keep_ coming
[20:05] <streulma> sumos: you want to stop saying that he wants to upgrade to ubuntu 13.10 ?
[20:05] <sumos> yeah, i want the pop-up messages telling me to upgrade to 13.10 to stop
[20:06] <streulma> sumos: I can help you
[20:06] <streulma> sumos: in the Dash > search for Software Updater
[20:06] <Ari-Yang> streulma: so help him then.
[20:06] <streulma> sumos: go to Settings
[20:07] <high_fiver> sumos, Software Sources > Updates > Notify LTS Only
[20:07] <streulma> sumos: there you can set that you only want LTS versions
[20:08] <sumos> ah, excellent. thanks streulma & high_fiver
[20:08] <streulma> sumos: the next LTS is in April 2014
[20:08] <high_fiver> sumos, np
[20:09] <streulma> sumos: the next upcomming version after 13.10 > 14.04
[20:09] <naty> i need help  Tor bug ubuntu 13.10
[20:10] <Crazyzurfer> when tried to upgrade to 13.10 from 13.04 got this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6266077/ any way to fix this? :)
[20:10] <high_fiver> naty, whats your questoion?
[20:11] <naty>  can't install Tor browser
[20:11] <high_fiver> naty, ah ok. how are you trying or which guide you following?
[20:12] <streulma> Crazyzurfer: I see you are using the xorg-edgers ppa
[20:12] <Crazyzurfer> streulma: is that bad?
[20:13] <streulma> Crazyzurfer: no, I use this also :) but for upgrade try to disable this ppa: or change to saucy in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[20:13] <high_fiver> naty, what errors do you get?
[20:14] <Crazyzurfer> streulma: I've disabled all external ppa's before upgrading, with "software sources"
[20:14] <streulma> Crazyzurfer: I think Ubuntu thinks that the packages are newer
[20:15] <Crazyzurfer> streulma: then, what should I do?
[20:15] <streulma> Crazyzurfer: don't know... but I'm thinking... :)
[20:16] <Crazyzurfer> okay :P
[20:16] <lululaplap_> hi, while updating to saucy during the "installing the upgrades" stage, the updater has frozen, what should I do? thanks you
[20:17] <streulma> Crazyzurfer: enable the PPA again, but change in the list file raring to saucy, do a sudo apt-get update and upgrade again
[20:17] <Crazyzurfer> streulma: ok
[20:18] <lessless> how to make card 1: HUDmx2 [Audinst HUD-mx2], device 1: USB Audio [USB Audio #1] a default output?
[20:18] <wilee-nilee> lululaplap_, look behind the gui there may be a popup behind it.
[20:19] <lululaplap_> how do I do that?
[20:20] <wilee-nilee> lululaplap_, use the alt key and your mouse to move windows around if you can
[20:20] <streulma> Crazyzurfer: is it ok? :)
[20:21] <lululaplap_> oh, right, nope, nothing
[20:21] <wilee-nilee> lululaplap_, look around, stoping the install part can be a big problem is all.
[20:21] <Crazyzurfer> streulma: wait a sec
[20:22] <lululaplap_> yeah, I really don't want to stop it, but its been like this for an hour with nothing
[20:22] <wilee-nilee> lululaplap_, You sure you still have internet access just to check variables
[20:23] <lululaplap_> yeah, I do
[20:23] <Crazyzurfer> streulma: changed with software and update's tool the ppa from raring to saucy and tried to upgrade, I doesn't offer me the upgrade now, and just shows me the error.. checked the ppa's again and the one I changed to saucy dissapeared
[20:24] <emdub_> anyone know what's up with the syslog-ng package in saucy?
[20:24] <emdub_> seems to have a broken dependency chain or something
[20:24] <cucujoidea> hello, I would like to use the xscreensaver with gnome-flashback. But there seems to be a problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/1199074
[20:25] <streulma> Crazyzurfer: do you have sudo apt-get update done ?
[20:25] <streulma> Crazyzurfer: in Terminal I mean, then you can try apt-get -f install
[20:25] <emdub_> http://pastie.org/8415054 -- re: syslog-ng
[20:26] <wilee-nilee> lululaplap_, Do you have dropbox installed, I see freezes on the web in this scenario?
 Yes, I do, should I uninstall?
[20:27] <ultim8> how can i install dosbox games in xubuntu?
[20:27] <streulma> ultim8: wine ?
[20:27] <wilee-nilee> lululaplap_, I would look on askubuntu and the web in genral, just a guess on it being the problem however.
[20:27] <SchrodingersScat> ultim8: vm?
[20:27] <reisio> ultim8: 1) install dosbox 2) install games
[20:28] <ultim8> Nope, i mean, i installed the dosbox itself. Now where can i get the games and how do i install them in xubuntu?
[20:28] <Munapaa> Damn, I cant get my tor working on ubuntu and I none of people are online in the #tor irc
[20:28] <SchrodingersScat> reisio: oh, thanks
[20:28] <reisio> ultim8: from online
[20:28] <cucujoidea> is there a possibility to install xscreensaver in combination with gnome-flashback?
[20:28] <reisio> ultim8: you install them by running dosbox and imagining you're in DOS
[20:28] <reisio> cucujoidea: what's gnome-flashback?
[20:29] <wilee-nilee> lululaplap_, I never do upgrades myself so I can only google for answers.
[20:29] <cucujoidea> in older versions, it was called gnome-fallback. it is a more gnome-2 like desktop
[20:29] <reisio> cucujoidea: ah
[20:29] <SchrodingersScat> reisio: do you have to install a dos wget?
[20:29] <loa> is it possible to turn off hard drive?
[20:29] <reisio> cucujoidea: if you want GNOME 2, I'd use Xfce, or MATE
[20:29] <reisio> loa: usually, yea
[20:30] <streulma> Munapaa: I can maybe help
[20:30] <loa> for example i have two hard drives and i want trun off one, not primary
[20:30] <loa> how?
[20:30] <reisio> SchrodingersScat: no, you map part of your local FS
[20:30] <Munapaa> Is here anyone that can help me with tor?
[20:30] <reisio> SchrodingersScat: you tell it which random dir full of DOS game executables you have should be c:
[20:30] <reisio> Munapaa: no, but there are some ones
[20:30] <streulma> Munapaa: installing Tor yes :)
[20:30] <loa> i am thinking about buying ssd, and for backup i want to use my hard drive
[20:31] <loa> which will be off 99% of time
[20:31] <reisio> loa: your internal?
[20:31] <wilee-nilee> Munapaa, The easy way is to just use their browser.
[20:31] <loa> reisio, internal sata drive
[20:31] <Munapaa> I have already installed tor browser, but it cant load any pages
[20:31] <reisio> loa: yeah, sdparm, or even hdparm
[20:31] <loa> it is little noisy
[20:31] <reisio> loa: :)
[20:31] <loa> so i want to turn it off
[20:32] <Munapaa> I tried to get some help from tor-irc, but its too silent in there
[20:32] <dklps2> #list
[20:32] <SchrodingersScat> Munapaa: Should make sure tor is running and connected to the network.
[20:32] <wilee-nilee> Munapaa, tor has two parts I forget their names, make sure all of tor shuts off when you close it.
[20:33] <SchrodingersScat> wilee-nilee: you mean vidalia?
[20:33] <wilee-nilee> yeah
[20:33] <wilee-nilee> I think
[20:33] <wilee-nilee> I never use tor
[20:34] <soman> Can I replace some free space from one ntfs disc to another ntfs with gparted?
[20:34] <Munapaa> Yep, its kinda slow, when it works
[20:34] <soman> I mean resize two partitions
[20:35] <wilee-nilee> soman, you can resize yes, any OS involved?
[20:35] <Calinou> loa: turning off the HDD is not always possible, note that it can reduce its lifespawn
[20:35] <Calinou> span*
[20:35] <Calinou> it usually is disabled by default on desktops
[20:36] <dklps2> hey guys
[20:36] <SchrodingersScat> Calinou: how about 'spinning down the disks'?
[20:36] <soman> wilee-nilee: what do you mean? There is Win used but I want to use ubuntu live cd with gparted
[20:36] <Calinou> by turning off I mean spinning down!
[20:36] <Munapaa> Hey! It started workin when I restarted it :)
[20:36] <Munapaa> thanks anyway
[20:36] <Calinou> wilee-nilee: you don't do upgrades yourself? :P
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> soman, does either ntfs you want to resize have windows on it?
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> Calinou, No all fresh installs much faster and a fresh OS.
[20:37] <soman> wilee-nilee: yes, one of partitions has win installed
[20:37] <Marlenee> i cant use clusterSSH from CLI on ssh Server ?
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> soman, Use the windows partitioner then to resize it.
[20:37] <SchrodingersScat> Calinou: ok, I wasn't sure if there was a distinction, i'm guessing that the parm commands probably do this manually then
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> soman, What windows release is it?
[20:37] <soman> wilee-nilee: win 7
[20:38] <Calinou> wilee-nilee: ah, ok, I do that too on my desktop. but last time I upgraded on my netbook and it works fine :)
[20:38] <wilee-nilee> soman, W7 has a partitioner use it to resize itself you can do it from admin live, much safer.
[20:38] <soman> wilee-nilee: built-in partitioner?
[20:39] <wilee-nilee> Calinou, upgrade here take about 3-4 hours a fresh install with a saved app list and sources and keys less than an hour and I have a frsh OS. I have all my stuff on externals as well.
[20:40] <cucujoidea> reisio: mate desktop seem not to be in the standard repository and not available for ubuntu 13.10 yet. Is there another possibility to use gnome flashback ( https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GNOME_Flashback ) with xscreensaver?
[20:40] <reisio> cucujoidea: I'd use Xfce
[20:40] <wilee-nilee> soman, Yes windows has a disk management a partitioner. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/gg309170.aspx
[20:41] <ultim8> reisi, ty for the response. I was away. Tell me pls, i just download the game.zip and put it in the dosbox folder?
[20:41] <reisio> ultim8: you can put it most anyplace
[20:41] <reisio> it's sensible to put it into a folder just for dosbox data, though
[20:41] <billboss> hello
[20:41] <cucujoidea> reisio: but with gnome i also have ibus which afaik not working in xfce
[20:41] <wilee-nilee> soman, gparted is great, however it will move stuff locked in a windows install partition that can end up bricking it on occasions, much safer to use the windows app.
[20:41] <ultim8> reisi, how can i know where is my dosbox folder? what's the cmd in terminal? Soz, newbie)
[20:42] <Crazyzurfer> streulma: got this: from apt-get -f install http://paste.ubuntu.com/6266239/ by the way My ubuntu is in spanish :)
[20:42] <reisio> cucujoidea: what do you use ibus for?
[20:42] <reisio> billboss: 'lo
[20:42] <Calinou> Crazyzurfer: handy tip: if you write "LANG=C" before a command (sepearated with a space) it'll be in english.
[20:42] <reisio> ultim8: there's no dedicated folder for game data, you can put it anywhere
[20:42] <Calinou> eg: LANG=C sudo apt-get update
[20:42] <reisio> ultim8: r-e-i-TAB
[20:42] <cucujoidea> reisio: for instance, inputting vietnamese letters
[20:43] <reisio> cucujoidea: what, in a term?
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> soman, MOst of all you should have a image/clone of windows as a backup.
[20:43] <Calinou> to set it back, you use LANG=your_language_code, or you close and re open terminal
[20:43] <dustinspringman> so.... i'm using 12.04..... been taking another stab at getting my HDMI port on my optimus based dell laptop to work..... 8 hrs of fail....... I just want to use the hdmi port so I don't have to use the mini-display port adapter... anyone ever been successul at that without the use of bumblebee?
[20:43] <Crazyzurfer> calinou: ok, thanks ;)
[20:43] <ultim8> reisio, soz, didn't get u.
[20:44] <cucujoidea> reisio: characters like ê, ệ, â etc.
[20:44] <Calinou> Crazyzurfer: np :)
[20:44] <gianfranco> Hijacked
[20:45] <FijiFresh> Is there a gnome extension where I can click on a file and get its full path, so I could just cut and past it
[20:45] <reisio> ultim8: type 'r', then 'e', then 'i', then hit TAB
[20:45] <reisio> FijiFresh: I'm sure you could make a script for that and add it to the right-click menu
[20:45] <reisio> cucujoidea: those work fine in Xfce IME
[20:46] <ultim8> reisio, where?
[20:46] <reisio> ultim8: right here
[20:46] <Rexter>  Munapaa, I just loaded TOR today. What king of problem are you having?
[20:46] <SchrodingersScat> FijiFresh: I'm in thunar, but when I copy a file and paste it into a text editor, it has path and filename
[20:46] <ultim8> reisi, ?
[20:47] <Blind1337nedm> how do i start a private chat window?
[20:47] <reisio> Blind1337nedm: /query nick
[20:47] <FijiFresh> hmm Schrodinger, I shall try this
[20:47] <reisio> ultim8: r, e, i, tab
[20:47] <Blind1337nedm> THANK YOU , reisio
[20:48] <ultim8> reisio, i did it, nothing.
[20:48] <FijiFresh> Thanks Schrodinger`Cat
[20:48] <SchrodingersScat> FijiFresh: it's one of two options I thought would happen, option B was the binary data being thrown in there :3
[20:48] <FijiFresh> It worked
[20:48] <SchrodingersScat> FijiFresh: cool, have fun
[20:48] <pfifo> yay, finally got 13.10 installed
[20:48] <GZA-Genius> Hello, anyone know why pastebin interface is not showing up in Nautilus, I have tried completly removing it and configs, choosing dif setting, retarting nautilus, choosing diff pb server adressess? Any clue how i can figure out wtf is going on?
[20:48] <FijiFresh> For years I did it a very slow way
[20:48] <GZA-Genius> o yea sorry on 13.04 x86_64
[20:49] <reisio> FijiFresh: try opening a terminal, and running ls | xclip -selection clipboard
[20:49] <SchrodingersScat> FijiFresh: with pwd, ls, and xclip, you could probably make it easier, depending on how many files you are working with
[20:49] <reisio> schoppenhauer: nb4!
[20:49] <reisio> :p
[20:49] <schoppenhauer> reisio: ?
[20:49] <Schrodinger`Cat> SchrodingersScat, hey
[20:50] <SchrodingersScat> Schrodinger`Cat: Gentlemen
[20:50] <Facepalm> what file am I editing when using crontab -e
[20:50] <Facepalm> as root
[20:51] <cucujoidea> reisio: thx for taking time, bye
[20:51] <SchrodingersScat> Schrodinger`Cat: you don't know if it's Ski-Ba-Bop-Ba-Dop-Bop or not until you look at it.
[20:52] <GZA-Genius> Facepalm: /var/spool/cron/crontabs
[20:53] <GZA-Genius> Facepalm: should only really add/remove crons by crontab -e when your logged into that users shell
[20:53] <GZA-Genius> Facepalm: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto
[20:53] <reisio> schoppenhauer: meant SchrodingersScat
[20:54] <schoppenhauer> ok
[20:54] <geirha> Facepalm: crontab -e copies the current crontab to somewhere in /tmp, then opens your favorite editor on that file. When you close the editor, it copies that eddited file back over the original.
[20:55] <codephobic> ifhi
[20:55] <codephobic> hi* even
[20:55] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> http://pastebin.com/whkt0KnV
[20:55] <codephobic> I come bearing fresh woes
[20:57] <sam113101> guys
[20:58] <sam113101> GUYS
[20:58] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> xorg issue http://pastebin.com/whkt0KnV
[20:58] <k1l_> sam113101: no need for caps. just state your issue
[20:58] <sam113101> k1l_: my home folder is broken
[20:59] <sam113101> I get all sorts of bugs on my current user, but if I create a new user and use it instead, the bugs vanish
[20:59] <linuxlite1969> anyone had any luck running ubuntu touch on motorola M? found a couple links on it, but im VERY n00b at flashing phone OS. if anyone has the patience or a very thorough walk thru i would appreciate it.
[20:59] <devil__> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: full xorg.log might help
[20:59] <codephobic> using Ubuntu 13.10, Apache2 and php5 where would a "500 internal server error" show up in logs? I've searched for it at /var/log/apache2/error.log but not sure where else to look.
[20:59] <GZA-Genius> sam113101: theres your answer
[20:59] <sam113101> GZA-Genius: what? where?
[20:59] <GZA-Genius> sam113101: im gonna say u delted data in hidden directories in your home folder?
[21:00] <wolter> Should there be any difference in system files between a fresh install of 13.04 updated to 13.10 and a fresh install of 13.10?
[21:00] <GZA-Genius> sam113101: create a new user
[21:00] <sam113101> GZA-Genius: I've had this folder for a long long time
[21:00] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> where is the log
[21:00] <SchrodingersScat> linuxlite1969: no offense, but if you aren't used to messing with your phone, are you sure that's the best place to start?
[21:00] <sam113101> I've had it on OpenSUSE, even
[21:00] <sam113101> kept the same
[21:01] <GZA-Genius> sam113101: well thats not very smart
[21:01] <devil__> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:01] <sam113101> GZA-Genius: I just wanted to, you know, keep my 500 GB of videos at the same place, without having to get a second drive to do a backup
[21:01] <gregor3005> hi, does anybody know how to get to the reinstallation process? it is a laptop with an luks partition. i opened the partition with the files browser and then started the installation process but i have only the option to erase ubuntu, and for sure the other default options, i mean this way: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuReinstallation
[21:01] <SchrodingersScat> linuxlite1969: does that even leave you with a functional phone? or are you not worried about that?
[21:02] <GZA-Genius> sam113101: saying your home folder is broken means nothing, im telling you what probably happened for a problem you have yet to say
[21:02] <linuxlite1969> SchrodingersScat: no offense taken, but i dont mind learning and have to start somewhere. not a big fan of my moto anyway and if i brick it, it gives me a reason to tell the lady i need a new one :)
[21:02] <GZA-Genius> sam113101: so if u want a answer better than that your gonna have to be more specific
[21:03] <linuxlite1969> i read a few pages where people have gotten a mostly functional phone out of it. with calls and messaging working. few bugs were upside down camera and video once in a while.
[21:03] <sam113101> GZA-Genius: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1241252 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1241258 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1241913
[21:04] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> http://pastebin.com/bPNbqVcg  devil__ im sure its a general xorg issue and not os reloaed, your the first to speak up and offer help out of different rooms
[21:05] <linuxlite1969> i've been rooted for a while, just no customization. did get the bootloader unlocked today as well. just a matter of flashing. when i reboot in to recovery, (with it plugged in to USB, or plug it in after booting to recovery) the phone acts like it has an auto-power supply detection and reboots into android on its own
[21:06] <devil__> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: can't help with freebsd much, but it seems you need something like bumblebee (in debian) to handle both cards
[21:06] <GZA-Genius> sam113101: sorry not a  13_10 user, u can keep your home folder but clean out all the OS config files and folder before changing systems. all the folders and file in your home dir that are hidden (begin with a ".") can be remove without touching your Personal Data
[21:07] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> bumblebee?
[21:07] <GZA-Genius> sam113101: a tip for future to start clean, i know that does nothing for you now, but if i were you i would just create new name, move data, and wala
[21:07] <devil__> it will most probably not work in freebsd
[21:07] <sam113101> GZA-Genius: but I want to keep some of those
[21:08] <sam113101> ie. my zshrc file, weechat folder, vimrc, etc.
[21:08] <RickyS_> Unable to install Ubuntu 13.10
[21:08] <SchrodingersScat> GZA-Genius: can't pull things from skel?
[21:08] <sam113101> yeah
[21:08] <RickyS_> Could not download the upgrades
[21:08] <RickyS_> The upgrade has aborted. Please check your Internet connection or installation media and try again. All files downloaded so far have been kept.
[21:08] <RickyS_> Failed to fetch http://releases.ubuntu.spd.co.il/pool/main/a/atkmm1.6/libatkmm-1.6-1_2.22.7-2_amd64.deb 403  Forbidden
[21:08] <sam113101> I think that's what I'm going to do next time
[21:08] <sam113101> just rename my home folder before installing
[21:08] <sam113101> and then move everything I need once it's done
[21:09] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> what does bumblebee do, that might give me an idea what to work on'
[21:09] <devil__> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: it enables/disables your cards
[21:10] <GZA-Genius> sam113101: yea u can keep that data but keeping it were a system is goin to try and install new data and use the same configs your asking for a problem. Atleast you did not loose data ;)
[21:10] <RickyS_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6266391/
[21:10] <devil__> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee
[21:11] <k1l_> sam113101: there is no guarantee, that a opensuse /home will work on ubuntu. i would start with a new /home and copy the stuff you need manually
[21:11] <lululaplap___> Best course of action after my saucy install failed during "installing the upgrades" stage?
[21:11] <sam113101> that kind of sucks, though, doesn't it?
[21:11] <sam113101> I thought that was one of the purpose of having a seperate /home partition
[21:11] <GZA-Genius> sam113101: would you rather it work or be easy?
[21:12] <k1l_> sam113101: please keep it family friendly in here. and no, its not a wonder, since its different distros and different config and application versions
[21:12] <GZA-Genius> sam113101: agreed^
[21:12] <OerHeks> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04, devil__ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[21:13] <GZA-Genius> sam113101: that what i was trying to say
[21:13] <jhutchins> k1l_: You keep objecting to that word.  It has been accepted by numerous language authorities including the OED as meaning an attribute of inferior quality, and is not considered obscene by most.
[21:14] <sam113101> can I keep app configs, though? such as firefox, weechat
[21:14] <GZA-Genius> bb, have to try and fix my issue, well ill bb if i survive it that is, good day all
[21:14] <k1l_> sam113101: that depends on that specific programs and that program versions
[21:15] <sam113101> ok
[21:15] <glennop> hi i have a problem with ubuntu not video after upgrade to 13.10.
[21:15] <jhutchins> I don't suppose there's some automated way to generate fstab.  debootstrap left it blank.
[21:16] <RickyS_> Could not download the upgrades
[21:16] <RickyS_> The upgrade has aborted. Please check your Internet connection or installation media and try again. All files downloaded so far have been kept.
[21:16] <RickyS_> Failed to fetch http://releases.ubuntu.spd.co.il/pool/main/a/atkmm1.6/libatkmm-1.6-1_2.22.7-2_amd64.deb 403  Forbidden
[21:16] <RickyS_> Can not install 13.10
[21:16] <Sander^lap> Why do mplayer returns: failed to create secure directory (/run/user/1000/pulse): Permission denied.. When running as my own user.. and unable to play video.. as root works.
[21:17] <reisio> Sander^lap: probably had a process die oddly in the past
[21:17] <reisio> Sander^lap: chown'ing or even deleting that path will probably fix it
[21:18] <rootdigga> hi - classmenu-indicator no longer works in saucy (only shows some system menus but not the rest). anyone else got the problem?
[21:18] <chrmhoffmann> hi, saucy seems to break the hdmi radeon audio?
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> RickyS_, change the mirrors. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/releases.ubuntu.spd.co.il-archive
[21:18] <chrmhoffmann> i have radeon.audio=1 on the kernel cmdline
[21:19] <chrmhoffmann> but nothing gets out and video/mkv play is fast-forward.
[21:19] <chrmhoffmann> is this a known issue?
[21:19] <RickyS_> I will try a different mirror.  Where do I change it?
[21:19] <sam113101> k1l_: would I run into the same problems if I were to upgrade from ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10 without reinstalling (ie. using the updater)?
[21:19] <wilee-nilee> RickyS_, software sources
[21:19] <wilee-nilee> RickyS_, Make sure any 3rd party repos are off as well.
[21:20] <k1l_> sam113101: no. in the upgrade process that is not a problem in most times
[21:21] <sam113101> I've always been afraid that upgrading without reinstalling would break everything
[21:21] <sam113101> because it did happen to me in the past
[21:21] <pfifo> jhutchins: why would you want to automate anything after doing a debootstrap? That defeats the purpose of a debootstrap.
[21:22] <Sander^lap> reisio, thanks alot, it fixed it :-)
[21:22] <SchrodingersScat> sam113101: it's happened to me too, seems to have gotten a little better, still no warranty
[21:22] <k1l_> sam113101: upgrades work in general. there can be some specific problems, but in general it works
[21:22] <Mikey^> Hello
[21:22] <Sander^lap> reisio, chown'ing.:)
[21:22] <reisio> Sander^lap: /run/ stuff is usually just "temporary" files for keeping track of things
[21:22] <reisio> Mikey^: hi
[21:22] <sam113101> ok
[21:22] <Mikey^> I upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10. I am now unable to login. I have tried my normal user account and guest account. It logins and after 3 or 4 seconds it logs out.
[21:23] <Mikey^> I am now connecting from the command line..
[21:23] <k1l_> Mikey^: see .xsession errors or syslog for more details
[21:23] <k1l_> .xsession-errors
[21:24] <OerHeks> Mikey^, sounds like this .Xautoriy issue > http://askubuntu.com/questions/223501/ubuntu-gets-stuck-in-a-login-loop old issue after upgrade
[21:24] <codephobic> Anyone know why json_decode() fails in php, after upgrading to 13.10?
[21:25] <OerHeks> if it is owned by root:root remane it and logout/login again
[21:25] <FreezingCold> Paying $5 for anyone how to teach me how to download this crap on Linux: https://stream.queensu.ca/app/plugin/plugin.aspx?insideIFrame=true&styleSheetUrl=https%3A%2F%2Fstream.queensu.ca%2Fapp%2Fplugin%2Fcss%2FensembleEmbeddedContent.css&contentID=y-YutsJovEuQuZMRlFriOg&embed=true&startTime=0&autoPlay=false&hideControls=false&showCaptions=false&width=640&height=386&q=www.queensu.ca
[21:26] <SchrodingersScat> >fiat
[21:26] <pfifo> a whole $5 :/
[21:26] <Mikey^> OerHeks: its owned by my user account, not by root
[21:27] <devil__> pfifo: do not spend it all at once though ;)
[21:27] <SchrodingersScat> FreezingCold: I haven't investigated, but chromium has a really neat "copy as curl" option in the dev network panel, which can be helpful
[21:27] <Mikey^> k1l_: xsession_errors says Fatal IO error 11 : resource not available
[21:27] <FreezingCold> pfifo: hell $10 if it's done in the next 5 minutes
[21:28] <Mikey^> k1l_: anything I can grep from the syslog file?
[21:28] <Mikey^> its a really large file :)
[21:28] <FreezingCold> SchrodingersScat: sorry where?
[21:29] <TheJoker> exit
[21:29] <Blind1337nedm> BAGPIPES <3
[21:30] <SchrodingersScat> FreezingCold: right click somewhere on the page, inspect element, go to the network tab, play video, sort by size, see if anything big pops up on top, if it does then right click on that file and 'copy as curl' then you only need to open a terminal, paste the curl line, add a place for curl to ouput to (iirc a -O /foo/bar/file ) and you might be good, unless it's some rtmp thing.
[21:30] <pfifo> FreezingCold: to download that kind of stuff, you need to find the URL of the video which is usually hidden inside the source of the page. you can view the source by pressing ctrl+u in most browsers... after having a look at this source, it appears it downloads a javascript, so in this case youll need to look at the source of the javascript that sets up the player to find your target URL.
[21:31] <Blind1337nedm> i was just going to say something similar
[21:31] <Blind1337nedm> for exapmle youtube had a downloader website, so it should be relativly simple
[21:31] <sagar> unable to change screen brightness helP!!
[21:31] <SchrodingersScat> pfifo: You can also use some of the many tools to sniff your own network and feed it into something like curl or wget :3  but that is ssl and so it probably wouldn't work in this example :(
[21:31] <FreezingCold> SchrodingersScat: thanks. Oddly enough no file gets bigger after starting the download
[21:31] <SchrodingersScat> Blind1337nedm: youtube-dl
[21:31] <SchrodingersScat> FreezingCold: could be cached if you watched it already
[21:32] <sagar> help unable to change screen brightness
[21:32] <Blind1337nedm> if worse comes to worse just screen record it
[21:32] <FreezingCold> SchrodingersScat: skipping around though?
[21:32] <reisio> probably need rtmpdump
[21:32] <sagar> help unable to change screen brightness
[21:32] <gregor3005> hi, does anybody know how to get to the reinstallation process? it is a laptop with an luks partition. i opened the partition with the files browser and then started the installation process but i have only the option to erase ubuntu, and for sure the other default options, i mean this way: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuReinstallation
[21:32] <Blind1337nedm> this reminds me of the 90's wow i havent been on irc in forever
[21:32] <sagar> help unable to change screen brightness
[21:33] <devil__> sagar: repeating it will not do a thing
[21:33] <pfifo> !info devscripts
[21:33] <bamprok> alias f5
[21:33] <FreezingCold> reisio: oh?
[21:33] <Blind1337nedm> hey what desktop manager are you using ,sagar
[21:33] <devil__> sagar: giving more info might
[21:33] <sagar> dwsktop manager means??
[21:33] <Blind1337nedm> gnome, unity , kde
[21:33] <SchrodingersScat> Blind1337nedm: there are bbs' that scrollback to the 80's I think, it's like time traveling
[21:34] <sagar> look i am using ubuntu 13.10 amdix64
[21:34] <reisio> FreezingCold: where's the page that got you to that page?
[21:34] <Blind1337nedm> SchrodingersScat: :O AMAZING!!! D:    break out the CMI's and lets get retro
[21:34] <SchrodingersScat> FreezingCold: if it's an rtmp stream then he's correct, you would need something like rtmpdump, which is normally more annoying.
[21:34] <Blind1337nedm> okay, sagar
[21:34] <Blind1337nedm> look at your desktop
[21:34] <Blind1337nedm> is there a bar of icons to your left
[21:35] <Blind1337nedm> or something similar to a start menu at the bottom?
[21:35] <FreezingCold> reisio: http://www.queensu.ca/registrar/currentstudents/convocation/websim/Cer13.html
[21:35] <sagar> yes
[21:35] <sagar> no
[21:35] <reisio> https://www.google.com/search?q=%22rtmpdump%22%20%22queensu.ca%22 produces this pastebin content: rtmpdump -r rtmp://streaming.queensu.ca/vod -a vod -y mp4:streams/virtual/psyc-20111025-143006-015_1.mp4 -o PSYCWeek7.mp4 -V
[21:35] <Blind1337nedm> yes you have icons to the side?
[21:35] <reisio> which works fine, so you could potentially adapt it for your different data
[21:35] <Blind1337nedm> okay you are using unity i assume.
[21:35] <FreezingCold> schoppenhauer: hmmm
[21:36] <schoppenhauer> FreezingCold: ?
[21:36] <FreezingCold> oh sorry that was for reisio
[21:36] <sagar> what is unity
[21:36] <Blind1337nedm> its a desktop manager
[21:36] <Blind1337nedm> hmm okay
[21:36] <sagar> okkk
[21:36] <Blind1337nedm> put it this way
[21:36] <reisio> presumably the path is in this .json file
[21:37] <sagar> okk
[21:37] <Blind1337nedm> do you know how windows 8 has that shitty tile desktop think
[21:37] <reisio> rtmp://content.queensu.ca/ensemble/OFFICEOFTHEUNIVERSITYREGISTRAR/Watch/june10am.mp4
[21:37] <sagar> no
[21:37] <Blind1337nedm> but you can change it to have regular icons
[21:37] <reisio> Blind1337nedm: icons?
[21:37] <Blind1337nedm> those are desktop managers
[21:37] <SchrodingersScat> reisio: nice ;)
[21:37] <FreezingCold> reisio: did that work?
[21:37] <sagar> okk
[21:37] <Blind1337nedm> anyways
[21:37] <reisio> FreezingCold: no you still need the magic rtmpdump syntax
[21:37] <Blind1337nedm> click DASH HOME
[21:37] <reisio> but that's probably the path that will get you half way there
[21:37] <Blind1337nedm> and type settings
[21:38] <sagar> yes i typed
[21:38] <Blind1337nedm> actually
[21:38] <FreezingCold> reisio: hold on
[21:38] <Dr_Willis> !manual
[21:38] <Blind1337nedm> sorry i just tried and you cannot change the brightness thru that
[21:38] <Blind1337nedm>   but
[21:38] <Blind1337nedm> if you know how to use the terminal
[21:38] <FreezingCold> reisio: where diy uo find that url?
[21:38] <Blind1337nedm> this is a helpful article : http://askubuntu.com/questions/145314/how-to-save-brightness-settings
[21:38] <codephobic> Anyone know why json_decode() fails in php, after upgrading to 13.10?
[21:39] <Blind1337nedm> i cannot upgrade my laptop, it puts all the 13.xx files on my HDD
[21:40] <FreezingCold> reisio: ERROR: Closing connection: NetStream.Play.StreamNotFound
[21:40] <Blind1337nedm> then it FORMATS THE WHOLE THING
[21:40] <SchrodingersScat> FreezingCold: sometimes I try to catch the rtmp stream with tcpdump, then work with it later
[21:40] <FreezingCold> SchrodingersScat: see I tried to do that too, except it's in freaking https
[21:40] <SchrodingersScat> FreezingCold: sudo tcpflow -i <interface> port 1935
[21:41] <SchrodingersScat> FreezingCold: did I say tcpdump? i meant tcpflow...i'm running it now while i watch that video, I have a 5.1MB file so far.
[21:41] <SchrodingersScat> FreezingCold: decoding it is the :( part
[21:42] <reisio> FreezingCold: in a json file that's downloaded
[21:43] <chrmhoffmann> is there no poor amd guy here that has some speakers hooked up via hdmi and could tell me a  workaround?
[21:43] <chrmhoffmann> saucy upgrade breaks hdmi audio AFAIK
[21:44] <codephobic> is there a json fix for php 5.5 for ubuntu 13.10?
[21:44] <Blind1337nedm> hey
[21:44] <Blind1337nedm> i heard poor amd guy
[21:44] <FreezingCold> reisio: hmm, why doesn't ' rtmpdump -r rtmp://content.queensu.ca/ensemble/OFFICEOFTHEUNIVERSITYREGISTRAR/Watch/june10am.mp4 -o IHATETHIS.mp4 -v' work?
[21:45] <chrmhoffmann> Blind1337nedm, ;)
[21:45] <reisio> FreezingCold: 'cause :)
[21:45] <Blind1337nedm> lol'd @ "IHATETHIS.mp4"
[21:45] <Schalla> Haha
[21:45] <Dr_Willis> drm protected videos from a university?
[21:45] <FreezingCold> Blind1337nedm: the most annoying part is that I don't even want the video. It's a gift for my father's birthday
[21:45] <FreezingCold> Dr_Willis: of freaking graduation
[21:45] <reisio> it'd be pretty odd if the method used at http://pastebin.com/GXPHNiM1 weren't at least partially applicable
[21:46] <reisio> they probably just bought the first streaming nonsense software they found
[21:46] <FreezingCold> reisio: the annoying as hell part is that flowplayer *is* free
[21:46] <pfifo> reisio: it was like the IT students learning about streaming and drm
[21:47] <loa> how i can rebuild third party modules for ubuntu?
[21:47] <loa> someone said command to me, but i forgot it
[21:47] <Blind1337nedm> FreezingCold: ouf!   I would just get a screen recorder old people cannot define resolution well
[21:47] <Blind1337nedm> he wouldnt be losing anything:P
[21:48] <FreezingCold> ugh but that would take over an hour and a ton of hd space
[21:48] <Blind1337nedm> hmmm
[21:48] <FreezingCold> he's probably going to try and share the shitty video
[21:48] <FreezingCold> because that's what old people do
[21:48]  * pfifo is an old person and requires HD video
[21:48] <pfifo> :(
[21:48] <Schalla> Yeah - On Instragram
[21:48] <high_fiver> lol
[21:48] <Blind1337nedm> hey
[21:48] <Schalla> Like all the hip-dads do.
[21:48] <Schalla> :D
[21:48] <Blind1337nedm> the flv file is hosted on that site right?
[21:49] <Blind1337nedm> just goto ftp and snatch the file
[21:49] <FreezingCold> Blind1337nedm: orly?
[21:49] <Schalla> If the ftp allows anno access, yes.
[21:49] <Schalla> Else, no.
[21:49] <Blind1337nedm> hmmm
[21:49] <Schalla> FreezingCold: How you access the file normally?
[21:50] <Blind1337nedm> you can get a google chrome plug in to download any FLV,, works with firefox too
[21:50] <FreezingCold> Schalla: https://stream.queensu.ca/app/plugin/plugin.aspx?insideIFrame=true&styleSheetUrl=https%3A%2F%2Fstream.queensu.ca%2Fapp%2Fplugin%2Fcss%2FensembleEmbeddedContent.css&contentID=y-YutsJovEuQuZMRlFriOg&embed=true&startTime=0&autoPlay=false&hideControls=false&showCaptions=false&width=640&height=386&q=www.queensu.ca
[21:50] <FreezingCold> Blind1337nedm: did not work
[21:50] <Schalla> whooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> well they work with most flv's ;)
[21:50] <wolter> Should there be any difference in system files between a fresh install of 13.04 updated to 13.10 and a fresh install of 13.10?
[21:50] <Schalla> Link of doomness
[21:50] <reisio> Blind1337nedm: not any :p
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> theres also sites, that you give the url and the site grabs the stuff for you
[21:51] <Blind1337nedm> wolter: yes i think your device would still carry some older files
[21:51] <FreezingCold> reisio: $25 if you figure it out before I come back from dinner (like 20 minutes)
[21:51] <reisio> heh
[21:51] <reisio> what's for dinner?
[21:51] <FreezingCold> paypal gift, I'll pay the fee
[21:51] <Dr_Willis> vegimite samiches
[21:51] <Blind1337nedm> biscotti and liquor
[21:51] <wolter> Blind1337nedm: and is there a tool to get rid of them?
[21:51] <reisio> heh
[21:52] <FreezingCold> reisio: please man, it's a gift :(
[21:52] <Blind1337nedm> wolter:  not that i know of but i havent really looked
[21:52] <FreezingCold> reisio: heh, someone claimed they got it working for me
[21:52] <FreezingCold> we'll see if he really did or not
[21:52] <reisio> FreezingCold: with rtmpdump?
[21:52] <paul_> Hello, I installed Ubuntu 13.10 i386 (on a fresh install) earlier today. Everything seemed to install fine, except that I cannot open the Software and Updates setting; nor can I download from the software center. Furthermore, the software updater doesn't open either. I use Xubuntu on my Desktop PC so I am comfortable with how Ubuntu and Linux work (and not afraid of the command line) but everything that I have tried today has been unsuccessful. Can anyone hel
[21:52] <paul_> p me?
[21:52] <FreezingCold> reisio: with some shitty plugin on windows
[21:53] <wolter> I just made a clean install of 13.04 because updating from 12.10 to 13.04 yielded some unheard-of problems, I don't want the same to happen if I upgrade to 13.10
[21:53] <reisio> FreezingCold: well that's cheating
[21:53] <dklps2> windows is shit
[21:53] <wolter> Blind1337nedm: thanks then!
[21:53] <dklps2> :)
[21:53] <wilee-nilee> !language
[21:53] <dklps2> german?
[21:53] <Blind1337nedm> paul_: have you checked your repositories?
[21:54] <Blind1337nedm> do you know how to add respositories with the terminal?
[21:54] <elb0w> If I want to put gnome 3 on ubuntu 13.04 but im using unity is there a guide anywhere?
[21:54] <Blind1337nedm> YES
[21:54] <Blind1337nedm> I JUST DID IT
[21:54] <paul_> yes, but I'm not sure of which ones to add
[21:54] <jhutchins> wolter: You might want to lurk here and watch the trouble reports on 13.10 for a while first.
[21:54] <Dr_Willis> elb0w:  should be guides at askubuntu.com and webupd8 and omgubuntu blog sites
[21:54] <Blind1337nedm> elb0w: i had a guy remote do it to my pc last night
[21:54] <SchrodingersScat> FreezingCold: now would be a good time to donate to rtmpdump
[21:54] <sagar> No brightness change using hardware key and xbacklight
[21:54] <Blind1337nedm> but i hate gnome
[21:54] <Dr_Willis> elb0w:  and gnome3 is included on 13.04 -
[21:54] <Blind1337nedm> HATE IT
[21:54] <conner_bw> Hi anyone with bug triaging capability in launchpad here?
[21:54] <sagar> No brightness change using hardware key and xbacklight
[21:54] <elb0w> Dr_Willis: yeah I saw that, but I wasnt sure if I just had to enable it or not
[21:55] <Dr_Willis> elb0w:  its in the repos if you mean 'gnome-shell'
[21:55] <wolter> jhutchins: perhaps :( 13.10 doesn't pack features I envy anyway. Unless LibreOffice menus are fixed
[21:55] <Dr_Willis> elb0w:  unity uses gnome3
[21:55] <sagar> No brightness change using hardware key and xbacklight
[21:55] <jhutchins> sagar: We heard you the first time.  Your hotkeys are not automatically detected.
[21:55] <conner_bw> Need bug #1240645 moved to "Unity", not "Light themes" :(
[21:55] <elb0w> Dr_Willis: Ah ok
[21:55] <Blind1337nedm> sagar: it might be only setting is your monitor
[21:55] <Dr_Willis> elb0w:  now getting the latest gnome  3.10 that will take more work.
[21:55] <wolter> All in all, I see 13.10 pretty much as a unity update
[21:55] <Dr_Willis> elb0w:  and if you want the latest gnome - you may want to uopgrade to 13.10 ubuuntu and test out their 3.8 first
[21:55] <sagar> no i am follwing the same procedure i use to do in 12.10 but not working same in 13.10
[21:56] <pfifo> wolter: I just did a fresh install of saucy so that I can try out mir
[21:56] <elb0w> Dr_Willis: No I have been out of the loop in linux for a bit, just got back in. I was having problems getting some software to work with my mac book pro trackpad because of how unity intercepts some gestures
[21:56] <elb0w> Dr_Willis: Ill just live with this I guess
[21:56] <wolter> pfifo: yeah, I use nvidia :(
[21:56] <wolter> pfifo: how is it, by the way?
[21:57] <pfifo> wolter: im downloading 725mb of dev packages right now... will begin building shortly (if you meant 13.10, its ok, nothing special imo)]
[21:57] <Dr_Willis> elb0w:  what gestures? i cant recall seeing unity using any.
[21:57] <paul_> I can't download anything from the software centre; can anyone help?
[21:57] <high_fiver> Dr_Willis, er two fingure scroll :p
[21:58] <high_fiver> *finger
[21:58] <elb0w> Dr_Willis: I want to use 3 finger gestures
[21:58] <elb0w> Dr_Willis: Ill dig up the software one sec
[21:58] <Dr_Willis> high_fiver:  that works for me on my netbook. but personally - i turn off my touchpad and use a mouse
[21:59] <Dr_Willis> i cant even get 3 fingers on my touchpad. ;)
[21:59] <Dr_Willis> may as well just use my whole hand. ;P
[21:59] <high_fiver> 3 fingers aint supported yo
[21:59] <wilee-nilee> paul_: run a update and upgrade from the cli and pastebin all of it.
[22:00] <elb0w> Dr_Willis: https://code.google.com/p/touchegg/ is what I want to use, https://code.google.com/p/touchegg/wiki/FAQ shows some settings that should enable it so you can use the software but it doesnt. I had done some digging and actually changed the unity source and reloaded it. But that didnt work either
[22:01] <munerf> i've updated my ppc lubuntu installation to 13.10 and lost network. when i boot the machine I goes into X but I cannot go to a terminal, and ctrl-alt-fn shortcut does not work (probably because i have an apple keyboard)
[22:01] <high_fiver> wtf "this vid is private"
[22:01] <high_fiver> 1st link
[22:01] <wilee-nilee> !language | high_fiver
[22:01] <high_fiver> sorry!
[22:02] <ampw> if an external hdmi tv isnt appearing then the problem myst be a driver?
[22:03] <Dr_Willis> ampw:  or a bad cable
[22:03] <ampw> i have two working cables, i tried installing the intel on board drivers
[22:04] <ampw> but it says i am missing a dependency
[22:04] <Dr_Willis> ampw:  most intel drivers are included by default.
[22:04] <Dr_Willis> ampw:  this is on a laptop?
[22:04] <ampw> yes
[22:04] <ampw> it was working before
[22:04] <Dr_Willis> tried that fn-monitor toggle button on the kbyarod?
[22:04] <ampw> on mint, then it messedup on mint so i installed ubuntu
[22:04] <Dr_Willis> keybord
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> also the monitors setting tool might show it.
[22:05] <ampw> i tried :
[22:05] <paul_> http://pastebin.com/HNJwhF0B
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> also make sure the tv is pluggd in and powered on when the pc boots.
[22:05] <ampw> okay
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> other then that - im out iof ideas
[22:05] <ampw> i will reboot now
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> mymachines tend to Default to the HDMI tv.  which is annoying at times
[22:06] <wilee-nilee> !pm | paul_
[22:06] <wilee-nilee> I don't pm
[22:06] <paul_> okay
[22:06] <jose> hey guys, are there any known problems with unicode in saucy? because the behaviour is weird right now, when I press Ctrl+Shift+ue9, for example, it auto-deletes
[22:07] <wilee-nilee> paul_: and don't just assume someone does and link
[22:07] <munerf> can anyone help me?
[22:08] <paul_> I'm pretty sure you PMed me first, wilee-nilee
[22:08] <fahadash> munerf: Have you already asked your question ?
[22:08] <munerf> yes
[22:08] <pfifo> plut
[22:08] <pfifo> oops
[22:09] <fahadash> Never used an Apple keyboard on ubuntu, but a google query for "going to tty1 with apple keyboard" might bring up something
[22:09] <munerf> is there any way
[22:09] <jetro__> is ubuntu better at automating stuff than windows?
[22:09] <munerf> I can stop ubuntu from booting in X?
[22:09] <kostkon> jetro__, what do oyu mean by that
[22:09] <munerf> from yaboot
[22:09] <bekks> !nox | munerf
[22:09] <k1l_> !text | munerf
[22:10] <munerf> it's a ppc
[22:10] <elb0w> Dr_Willis: this is what I was referring to http://elscreemo.blogspot.com/2013/05/restoring-three-finger-gesture-in.html
[22:11] <jetro__> kostkon, since you can create bash scripts with ubuntu, is it easier to automate tasks like, open up a webpage logon with your user name and pass, and then navigate somewhere (so you don't have to do this over and over)
[22:12] <jetro__> or say I wanted to check the weather, can I create a terminal command called weather that gives me the weather, so I don't have to google it
[22:12] <SchrodingersScat> jetro__: you might be looking for a program named 'curl'
[22:13] <pfifo> jetro__: I find it to be much easier to do that sort of thing in linux than in windows
[22:13] <wolter> pfifo: oh you have to _build_ Mir?
[22:13] <ampw> can you make ubuntu detect displays?
[22:13] <ampw> on terminal
[22:13] <pfifo> wolter: no, you dont... I want to
[22:13] <bluechaos> hello guys
[22:13] <spongebob58> hi all. just wondering if someone can help me with mounting a samba share from my win 7 pc so that it auto mounts on ubuntu startup. from what i can gather, i need to edit the fstab file, but the combinations dont seem to be working,
[22:13] <wolter> oh ok haha
[22:14] <pfifo> wolter: might join the team and start coding it, if it looks promising
[22:14] <bluechaos> bluechaos@BlueChaosPVS:~/Desktop$ sudo tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.8.2-2-installer.run -C /opt
[22:14] <bluechaos> tar (child): xampp-linux-1.8.2-2-installer.run: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[22:14] <bluechaos> tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[22:14] <bluechaos> tar: Child returned status 2
[22:14] <bluechaos> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[22:14] <bluechaos> bluechaos@BlueChaosPVS:~/Desktop$
[22:14] <FloodBot1> bluechaos: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:14] <wolter> pfifo that sounds awesome, I wish nVidia helped to make Mir work with proprietary drivers
[22:14] <bluechaos> soz
[22:14] <bluechaos> bluechaos@BlueChaosPVS:~/Desktop$ sudo tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.8.2-2-installer.run -C /opt
[22:14] <bluechaos> tar (child): xampp-linux-1.8.2-2-installer.run: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[22:14] <bluechaos> tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[22:14] <bluechaos> tar: Child returned status 2
[22:14] <FloodBot1> bluechaos: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:14] <bluechaos> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[22:14] <bluechaos> bluechaos@BlueChaosPVS:~/Desktop$
[22:14] <wolter> (or that nVidia helped further the nouveau project)
[22:15] <jetro__> SchrodingersScat, with curl can you record browsing activity and then replay it. Say for example, I need to logon to a website and then navigate somewhere often. Can I do that once, have curl log that, then replay it as a terminal command so that a web browser opens up at the final page that I am interested in?
[22:15] <bluechaos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6266733/
[22:15] <k1l_> !paste | bluechaos
[22:15] <munerf> i dont think i have grub only yaboot
[22:15] <bluechaos> I paste it
[22:15] <bluechaos> see now ?
[22:15] <bluechaos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6266733/
[22:15] <MonkeyDust> wolter  i havent followed, but tip: there's also #ubuntu-mir
[22:15] <k1l_> !xampp | bluechaos
[22:16] <mcgrathj> Is it appropriate to ask about the use of pgp keys in apt-get/apt-key? If not, any suggestions where to ask?
[22:16] <AlwaysSunny> Hey
[22:16] <wolter> MonkeyDust: interesting, will check
[22:17] <mojtaba> Hi after upgrading to 13.10 when my laptop wake up after sleep the network become disconnected and needs a restart to be connected again. Do you know what should I do? (dell studio 1555)
[22:17] <pfifo> its not a very active channel
[22:17] <AlwaysSunny> Would there be any way to remove Ubuntu's top bar on a secondary screen?
[22:18] <wilee-nilee> AlwaysSunny: no it's part of the desktop.
[22:18] <wilee-nilee> not without a unknown hack anyway
[22:18] <bluechaos> k1l_,
[22:18] <AlwaysSunny> Hmm, okay. That's a shame because I don't really need it
[22:18] <nisio> mojtaba: ethernet cable?
[22:18] <bluechaos> if I  install this  sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[22:19] <mojtaba> nisio: wifi
[22:19] <bluechaos> can I join in desktop too ?
[22:19] <bluechaos> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tasksel
[22:19] <wilee-nilee> AlwaysSunny: many desktops
[22:19] <ChogyDan> AlwaysSunny: you can try unity tweak tool, there might be an option there: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/02/introducing-unity-tweak-tool
[22:19] <nisio> mojtaba: you might be able to connect to the web through the ethernet cable without restarting
[22:20] <k1l_> bluechaos: if you install a desktop enviroment you can log into the desktop, yes
[22:20] <ChogyDan> bluechaos: that command just adds to your current install.  It doesn't remove anything
[22:20] <mojtaba> nisio: Yes but the problem is that, even when I reset the wifi with hardware, it does not work.
[22:20] <wilee-nilee> ChogyDan: hardly, due the research
[22:20] <bluechaos> but that command don`t work for me
[22:21] <k1l_> bluechaos: what does not work and brings what error?
[22:21] <bluechaos> bluechaos@BlueChaosPVS:~$ sudo tasksel
[22:21] <bluechaos> bluechaos@BlueChaosPVS:~$
[22:21] <bluechaos> I've been try to install with this ..
[22:21] <bluechaos> but don`t work
[22:21] <Dr_Willis> ive heard to be very carefull with 'tasksel'  :)
[22:21] <k1l_> bluechaos: please put into a pastebin: "lsb_release -a" and "uname -a"
[22:22] <nisio> mojtaba: I don't know what else you then, sorry
[22:22] <bluechaos> lsb module is not installed in this system ..
[22:22] <mojtaba> nisio: Don't you know how can I fix this problem permanently?
[22:22] <k1l_> bluechaos: please pastebin all the output
[22:22] <bluechaos> bluechaos@BlueChaosPVS:~$ lsb_release
[22:22] <bluechaos> No LSB modules are available.
[22:22] <bluechaos> bluechaos@BlueChaosPVS:~$
[22:22] <ChogyDan> bluechaos: I figured you would be running `sudo tasksel install lamp-server` sorry
[22:23] <k1l_> bluechaos: is this even a ubuntu install?
[22:23] <MonkeyDust> bluechaos  lsb is installed by default on ubuntu... what's the outcome of   cat /etc/issue
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> bluechaos:  the command was 'lsb_release -a'
[22:23] <bluechaos> k just wait
[22:23] <bluechaos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6266766/
[22:24] <k1l_> bluechaos: you need to read and write _exactly_ what is written. if you just read half of that advices and keep half of the commands you will break your system
[22:24] <k1l_> bluechaos: did you install tasksel before?  (like this is mentioned in the site the bot gave you)
[22:24] <nisio> mojtaba: this site might help you http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/fix-wireless-or-wired-network-not.html
[22:24] <bluechaos> k1l_,  no
[22:25] <k1l_> bluechaos: so start reading the site from the beginning. dont just look for commands somewhere in the middle. read the site!
[22:25] <mojtaba> nisio: I will check it, thanks
[22:25] <bluechaos> I have allready installed mysql ,phpmyadmin/
[22:25] <Dr_Willis> 'read and follow label directions' if you want your pie to be 'brown and delicous' ;)
[22:25] <Dr_Willis> !lamp
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[22:27] <bluechaos> omg
[22:36] <munerf> anyone here has experience with yaboot?
[22:36] <chare> ok guys why is Saucy datetime indicator missing?
[22:37] <chare> I've just noticed that in the top right the time indicator is missing
[22:37] <chare> WHY
[22:38] <trism> chare: bug 1239710
[22:38] <wilee-nilee> !anyone | munerf
[22:38] <chare> so Saucy was "rushed out" no testing nice job
[22:39] <bekks> chare: Because one bug was not fixed? :)
[22:39] <munerf> I need help with yaboot to make my instalation boot into text mode
[22:39] <pfifo> chare: its my fault
[22:39] <jhutchins> chare: Did you contribute to the testing?
[22:39] <chare> I contribute to the complaining
[22:39] <wilee-nilee> pfifo: hehe, I thought so
[22:40] <sam113101> guys
[22:40] <sam113101> GUYS
[22:40] <chsados> can anyone help me remove this icon screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/RV02pMp.png
[22:41] <mojtaba> One un-related quesiton: could you please let me know how can I join ##java channel? It says you need to register. (How should I register?) Thanks
[22:41] <sam113101> I need help
[22:41] <k1l_> !register | mojtaba
[22:41] <wilee-nilee> munerf: the channel works with you detailing what you have tried....etc
[22:41] <k1l_> sam113101: just state your issue with details into the channel. that was told alot of times to you
[22:41] <sam113101> I want my home folder to be on my hard drive but my config files to be on my ssd
[22:41] <pfifo> chsados: right click it, choose text entry settings, uncheck box at bottom of that dialog
[22:42] <sam113101> I don't know what would be the easiest, cleanest way of doing it
[22:42] <chsados> thanks pfifo !
[22:43] <Schalla> FreezingCold: Queried you
[22:43] <magdur> guys i cant update ubuntu 13.10
[22:43] <kostkon> magdur, be more specific please
[22:43] <kostkon> magdur, what errors are you getting. if you need to paste them, use paste.ubuntu.com
[22:47] <magdur> kostkon, i solved it
[22:47] <kostkon> magdur, gj
[22:48] <sam113101> how big should my / partition be?
[22:48] <pfifo> sam113101: I use 8192mb
[22:49] <genii> Depends how many apps you're planning to install
[22:49] <sam113101> only a few
[22:49] <Schalla> sami113101: That depends totally on your strucutre.
[22:49] <sam113101> and /home is going to be on a separate partition
[22:49] <Schalla> ah okay.
[22:49] <Schalla> that i wanted to ask.
[22:50] <sam113101> ;p
[22:50] <sam113101> would 10 GB be fine?
[22:50] <pero> is it possible to install okular without the rest of KDE in its entirety?
[22:50]  * Schalla never understood why to seperate / and /home
[22:50] <chare> lets talk about how ubuntu is going to beat windows
[22:50] <Schalla> \o
[22:50] <sam113101> so I can reinstall without having to do a backup
[22:50] <Schalla> \o/
[22:51] <devil__> pero: no
[22:51] <trism> pero: yes it just installs kde-runtime
[22:51] <MGMT> !ot | MGMT
[22:51] <Schalla> sam113101: Hum - How much space your hdd has?
[22:51] <genii> chare: If it's not directly regarding tech support, #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:51] <trism> pero: I use it here in unity and I don't have a kde session
[22:52] <pfifo> Schalla: so that you can have both 12.04 and 13.10 installed and have the same homefolder on both
[22:52] <Schalla> I would suggest rather to give it more space and resize it later if required
[22:52] <sam113101> Schalla: ssd has 120 GB, hdd has 1 TB, I plan on putting both / and /home on the ssd
[22:52] <pero> so i can use it without actually being in KDE, but I need to download and install and keep KDE?
[22:52] <sam113101> but move videos and music to the hdd
[22:52] <Schalla> Always keep in mind you can resize with GParted easily
[22:52] <sam113101> and maybe symlink them to my home folder
[22:52] <Schalla> Never had a problem >>>YET<<< with resizing a partition from high to low
[22:52] <devil__> pero: you need kde-libraries
[22:52] <blarghl> debug1: Trying private key: /home/user/.ssh/id_dsa.feral
[22:52] <blarghl> no such t -clear
[22:53] <blarghl> whoops, my bad
[22:53] <pfifo> sam113101: 10GB is fine. anything above 4gb is acceptable
[22:53] <sam113101> ok
[22:53] <trism> pero: no, only the kde-runtime, not all of the kde environment
[22:53] <sam113101> thanks
[22:53] <trism> pero: it is relatively small by comparison
[22:53] <pero> it's asking for 191 mb of stuff
[22:53] <Schalla> "stuff" is always perfect and totally necessary.
[22:54] <kostkon> pero, but you might get a couple of extra running processes after that
[22:54] <Kuroshita> hey guys, I'm trying to theme gnome shell 3.8 in ubuntu but the window bar isn't themeing. Is there a trick to it?
[22:54] <Kuroshita> I have just installed Zukitwo theme
[22:55] <pero> http://pastebin.com/cYRSUCeM
[22:56] <kostkon> pero, a lot of stuff unfortunately
[22:57] <pfifo> I like how recovery mode drops you to a root shell without prompting for a password.
[23:00] <orgon> hi @ all
[23:00] <orgon> anybody use her xbmc
[23:00] <orgon> #???
[23:01] <orgon> ok all drunk or coding ..
[23:01] <kostkon> !patience
[23:01] <pfifo> no one will answer that question
[23:02] <orgon> hmm
[23:02] <orgon> wrong channel
[23:02] <kostkon> orgon, ask the real question
[23:02] <MonkeyDust> orgon  type     /msg alis list *xbmc*     <-- with the asterisks
[23:04] <Paddy_NI> Can anyone tell me why I am still getting the same facebook notifications over and over again on ubuntu 12.10
[23:04] <Paddy_NI> err.. 13.10
[23:04] <Paddy_NI> Every so often it will pop up and tell me a notification from last week
[23:05] <orgon> is it possible if i us an fritz-box-router ( i hate this  brand )  connected to an usb-drive  ,,, xbmc find the files all fine but i cant any movie scraper get working
[23:05]  * ablyss :|
[23:05] <orgon> sorry for my english ,, much work for dad and here was little party after that
[23:06] <orgon> and im from austria not austrialia
[23:10] <Patero-ng> I have 2 harddrives that use to be used as raid0 they're both 200gb each the problem is all partition managers still see them as a raid and some even see one of them as empty unallocated space but I'm using both as individial HD now I can't administer like I should... how to make them appear as individual volumens again?
[23:12] <pfifo> Patero-ng: can you pastebin the output of 'sudo fdisk -l'
[23:13] <linuxtech> Can I attach to a dpkg process?  How can I rescue an Kubuntu upgrade from raring to saucy when Xwindows crashed? Occured from starting a java application and being prompted for a configuration change in NetworkManager just prior to Xwindows crashing. (this is kj, linuxtech's brother).  See:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6266977/
[23:15] <jrib> linuxtech: start with "dpkg --configure -a"
[23:15] <boodroscotch> Hi, I recently did a fresh install of Ubuntu 13.10, and for some reason a while later an inaccessable login option called "LightDM Display Manager" showed up on the login screen. Is there any way to get rid of it?
[23:21] <BrianH> Hey guys.  Because 13.10 server install is disabling my USB keyboard during install, I'm attempting to preseed the entire installation.  It keeps stopping at entering a hostname.  Is there a preseed setting for this?
[23:22] <BrianH> I'm using "d-i netcfg/get_hostname string foo", but it's not working.
[23:26] <MonkeyDust> BrianH  if you don't get an answer here, try #ubuntu-server
[23:27] <BrianH> MonkeyDust: awesome, didn't know that channel existed. :)  Thanks.
[23:28] <DarylXian> Where/how can I contact a launchpad sysadmin?  Any to be found in here?
[23:29] <trism> DarylXian: maybe #launchpad
[23:31] <JoeyMonkey> hello everyone
[23:32] <JoeyMonkey> any one here?
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> 1719 people here
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> - the bots
[23:32] <JoeyMonkey> right on
[23:32] <JoeyMonkey> im intrested in helping develope this software
[23:32] <JoeyMonkey> who do i need to talk to?
[23:32] <MonkeyDust> !contribute
[23:33] <JoeyMonkey> right on
[23:33] <guest__> I have a high resolution screen. How do I increase the dpi of Ubuntu 13.10?
[23:33] <linuxtech> Killed the dpkg procees and ran --configure -a which prompted me for changes to Network Manager.  do-release-upgrade results in no new release available and there's nothing to install or remove in running apt-get upgrade.  How do I confirm it's done and the find what to remove?
[23:33] <JoeyMonkey> so can any one tell me why there is such a lag between the time you click on an item and it being ececuted?
[23:33] <FijiFresh> Is ranch dressing on french fries any good?
[23:33] <JoeyMonkey> wtf
[23:34] <Random832> FijiFresh: yes
[23:34] <JoeyMonkey> ranch on frenchfries?
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> FijiFresh:  Yes.
[23:34] <JoeyMonkey> really
[23:34] <FijiFresh> No ketchup here, don't feel like going out
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> with bacon!
[23:34] <FijiFresh> Thanks guys
[23:34] <JoeyMonkey> ranch is bomb on ff
[23:34] <FijiFresh> I shall try this
[23:34] <JoeyMonkey> but in the mean time is there any techs here?
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> JoeyMonkey:  we are all kinds of support peoples in here. ;)
[23:35] <Schalla> Define "techs" JoeyMonkey?
[23:35] <JoeyMonkey> sweet....ok first of all what language is this program written in
[23:35] <Dr_Willis> JoeyMonkey:  Ubuntu is an operating system.. not a 'program'
[23:35] <JoeyMonkey> well yes i am aware of this
[23:36] <Dr_Willis> Most linux disrots are useing C, C++ and lots of scripting languages.
[23:36] <JoeyMonkey> ok great so how would i find somone that would want to collabrate on this with me
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> Python and bash are the most common scripting bits. :) perl and others are also common
[23:37] <Schalla> With what?
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> JoeyMonkey:  you havent given us any details at all.
[23:37] <JoeyMonkey> well i want to make the execution time faster
[23:37] <JoeyMonkey> and boot loading
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> excution time of what?
[23:37] <JoeyMonkey> its freakin crazy slow
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> my system boots in under 20 sec..
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> its crazy freaking fast here.
[23:38] <JoeyMonkey> yes dr willis but it should be under 9 secs
[23:38] <Dr_Willis> JoeyMonkey:  why should it?
[23:38] <Marlenee> how can i copy all scroll back in screen tool ??
[23:38] <JoeyMonkey> and execution should be like as soon as you click
[23:38] <Schalla> JoeyMonkey: Wrong Linux Distro
[23:38] <Dr_Willis> execution is as soon as i click here.. unless its some huge app.
[23:39] <OerHeks> JoeyMonkey, depends on what item you click, what program or services have to start.
[23:39] <kostkon> JoeyMonkey, with an ssd it is
[23:39] <JoeyMonkey> ubunto like 12 somthing
[23:39] <DarylXian> trism thx, tried.  not reply so far ...
[23:39] <Schalla> Really 12 Sec, incredeible slow.
[23:39] <JoeyMonkey> no its distro 12
[23:39] <Dr_Willis> firefox  on my netbook.  (slow hd) takes like 20 sec to load the first time.
[23:40] <Schalla> http://xtrabuntu.blogspot.de/2013/03/faster-boot-time-ubuntu-1204.html
[23:40] <JoeyMonkey> takes like 5+ seconds to get anything to execute
[23:40] <kostkon> JoeyJoeJo, something is wrong probably
[23:40] <kostkon> oops
[23:40] <kostkon> JoeyMonkey, ^^
[23:40] <Blind1337nedm> hey
[23:40] <Blind1337nedm> guys
[23:40] <JoeyMonkey> i thought somthing wrong too
[23:40] <trism> DarylXian: yeah it can be slow in that room but they usually reply eventually
[23:41] <DarylXian> will idle ...
[23:41] <Blind1337nedm> some guy put gnome on my ubuntu last night and now when i go back to unity desktop isnt supported
[23:41] <JoeyMonkey> guys i dont have alot of time right now
[23:41] <Blind1337nedm> WHAT DO?
[23:41] <Patero-ng> yes pfifo
[23:41] <JoeyMonkey> but ill be back to throw out some ideas
[23:41] <Patero-ng> one sec
[23:41] <JoeyMonkey> thanks
[23:41]  * JoeyMonkey out
[23:41] <Patero-ng> actually linux hangs my computer
[23:41] <Schalla> Blind1337nedm: Rape the guy who installed Gnome
[23:41] <Schalla> ^^
[23:41] <Marlenee> hello anbody know how can i copy all scroll back in screen tool its more than 8000 lines ??
[23:42] <Schalla> He removed Unity?
[23:42] <xous> Marlenee: it's gone
[23:42] <Pwnna> how do i check what my mesa version is?
[23:42] <xous> you'd have to increase the scrollback first
[23:42] <spongebob58> can someone help me with mounting a smb share in my ubuntu? i just cant seem to get it to work.
[23:42] <Dr_Willis> gnome wont break unity.. driv er updates could...
[23:42] <Blind1337nedm> Schalla: no i get the option to use gnome , gnome classic , or unity
[23:42] <Schalla> Blind1337nedm: And what you miss?
[23:42] <Blind1337nedm> i used to just have unity
[23:42] <Schalla> Oh.
[23:42] <Blind1337nedm> i miss putting the folder on my desktop
[23:43] <Blind1337nedm> just for easy access its a pretty busy folder
[23:43] <Schalla> Blind1337nedm:
[23:43] <Schalla> Check /usr/share/xsessions
[23:43] <kostkon> Pwnna, install mesa-utils, then give glxinfo
[23:44] <guest__> I have a high resolution screen. How do I increase the dpi of Ubuntu 13.10?
[23:44] <Pwnna> hm
[23:44] <Pwnna> 9.2.1
[23:44] <Blind1337nedm> Schalla: check it for what?
[23:44] <Dr_Willis> guest__:  checked askubuntu.com yet?
[23:44] <Pwnna> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70151 anyone know about this?
[23:44] <kostkon> Pwnna, if you are using a open source driver, it will show the mesa version
[23:44] <Dr_Willis> guest__:  i cant recall ever needing to mess with the dpi setting in years
[23:44] <Schalla> Blind1337nedm: Take a look at it, it allows to edit the possible sessions
[23:44] <Pwnna> i'm not sure if my symptom matches that, but my bug got marked as a dup of that
[23:45] <Schalla> guest__: http://askubuntu.com/questions/197828/how-to-find-and-change-the-screen-dpi
[23:45] <OerHeks> Blind1337nedm, you can drag any folder to your desktop, you did not try it ?
[23:45] <Marlenee> xous : no its not i can see it by pushing on PageUp button in my keyboard .
[23:45] <guest__> Dr_Willis: There is a solution for 12.04 (what you posted) but it didn't work for the liveusb. Let me check the install.
[23:45] <Blind1337nedm> OerHeks: of course i did! :P    it doesnt let me
[23:45] <guest__> Dr_Willis: Everything is WAY to tiny on this laptop.
[23:45] <kostkon> guest__, maybe unity-tweak or ubuntu-tweak allows you to do that
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> guest__:  I run things at the native res of the monitor with very few issues.
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> make your fonts bigger? ;)
[23:46] <guest__> koston: Which is the best of those tools, myunity, ubuntu-tweak, unity-tweak, etc?
[23:46] <xous> Marlenee: then just use hardcopy
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> guest__:  try them all.. they all differ in little ways
[23:46] <kostkon> guest__, try them all and devide yourself
[23:46] <guest__> Alrighty then
[23:46] <Blind1337nedm> ^ i agree with above
[23:47] <Dr_Willis> bbl.
[23:48] <spongebob58> can someone help me with mounting a smb share in my ubuntu? i just cant seem to get it to work.
[23:49] <Marlenee> xous : i cant do hardcopy it more that 8000 lines
[23:49] <xous> hrm
[23:49] <xous> what are you trying to copy
[23:49] <xous> if you know before hand just run script output.log
[23:49] <xous> then run whatever you want to copy to a file..
[23:52] <juanp_> ChanServ ScoutLink
[23:52] <Marlenee> i use before this tool "script" and it mess with my output result
[23:54] <spongebob58> can someone help me with mounting a smb share in my ubuntu? i just cant seem to get it to work.
[23:55] <guest__> The weirdest thing just happened. I closed the lid of my laptop and when I opened it, it had a bunch of console jargon on a black screen and something about a null pointer not found, and the capslock switch turning on and off over and over until I forced the laptop to shutdown...
[23:56] <bekks> guest__: thats called a "kernel panic". Resolution: turn off your computer, wait 10s, turn it back on again.
[23:56] <bekks> guest__: BEFORE:
[23:56] <guest__> bekks: I turned it on and it has a little error in apprtcheckresume
[23:56] <bekks> Try to provide as much detailed information of what you can see, like taking a picture, etc.
[23:56] <guest__> I sent the error to canonical
[23:57] <bekks> guest__: thats good.
[23:57] <guest__> bekks: Problem type KernelOops.
[23:57] <guest__> I'm assuming it won't happen for a while?
[23:57] <odium> After a reboot, I lost my audio device.
[23:57] <guest__> And it isn't a permanent thing
[23:57] <odium> How should I troubleshoot?
[23:58] <chsados> anyone having issues with teamviewer install on 13.10?  I have tried the 32bit/multiarch version and am getting this error still http://pastebin.com/PWBsVqxh
[23:59] <OerHeks> odium,  this is a good start > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[23:59] <odium> much obliged OerHeks.