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Unit193brainwash: Having your fun for the evening?00:54
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brainwashbug 122202109:26
ubottubug 1222021 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Laptop sleeps when lid is closed, regardless of Power Manager Settings." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122202109:26
brainwashxfpm needs to inhibit the systemd lock-on-lid-close trigger09:27
brainwashhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/saucy/gnome-settings-daemon/saucy/revision/248/debian/patches/logind_support.patch09:30
brainwashehm, sleep-on-lid-close I mean09:31
brainwashis it always that silent in this channel after a release? :)11:50
Unit193Well I'm busy trying to patch something in a language I don't know. :D11:53
brainwashsounds familiar :)12:05
olbihello, do you know when will be fixed that bug with sound indicator? :)12:28
forestpiskie /list12:34
forestpiskiewhoops12:34
forestpiskieolbi: not at the moment I don't - but it's unlikely that anything will happen very soon12:36
olbithat sounds bad :(12:37
Unit193brainwash: Except you know what you're doing. :P12:42
brainwashUnit193: I'm not an expert and I get confused by all the different APIs pretty easily12:48
brainwashyes, we did it! we hit the 500 heat mark12:50
olbiso how I can using now sound without this strange fix? :P13:07
olbionly PulseAudio?13:08
olbiGUI?13:08
brainwashthis workaround isn't strange13:10
brainwashit's straightforward13:10
brainwashapply it and the indicator will work just like in 13.0413:11
olbiI know that it work, but some says that it could cause some trauble :P13:12
brainwashthe "comment 5" fix?13:12
olbicomment 2713:13
brainwashcomment 4113:14
brainwashthis one is only needed if you run unity/gnome3 side by side with xubuntu/xfce13:14
brainwashotherwise use the simple version (comment 5)13:15
olbiok13:15
GridCubebrainwash, you understand the things said in comment 41?13:16
GridCubecan you make a simple explaination so i can point people to it to read it? maybe a .sh they can run?13:16
olbiit could be sh with gksudo :)13:17
GridCubethat would be nice13:17
brainwashit executes a shell command: test if Xfce is running, if yes -> load the gtk2 sound indicator, if no -> load the gtk3 indicator13:18
olbimaybe today do it and I could test it13:19
olbithan send it to mailing list13:19
GridCubeolbi, i dont want to impose him to do anything :)13:19
olbithis was suggestion :]13:20
GridCubei don't understand this but its something we eagerly need13:20
olbiok, I have another question with translations, in Preferences there are Additional Drivers and Printers, from where they take PO files?13:21
brainwashto be honest, don't expect any official fix for it, the main goal is to provide a new version of xfce4-panel with the gtk3 indicator wrapper in the backports repository13:22
GridCubebrainwash, i know, but for the moment we need a workaround, and comment 41 seems the most reasonable, if only we can make it user friendly :/13:23
brainwashit is user friendly13:25
brainwashor you mean some sort of 1 click script13:25
brainwashmaybe even an extra PPA o.o13:25
GridCubebrainwash, that workaround needs to be run everytime an user start an xfce session? or is it a one time only?13:28
GridCubeno, i dont think a ppa is needed, maybe just a script that can be run13:28
brainwashone time (until the file gets changes by an update)13:28
brainwashchanged13:28
GridCubelike a "official fix this thing script" from us13:29
brainwashunofficial13:30
GridCubewell if i can get knome to put in on the xubuntu.org blog that would do it "semi-official" :P13:31
brainwashthe bug report is already linked (known issues list)13:31
GridCubeyes13:31
GridCubeim talking about a script that puts the workaround to work, not just a link to something alien to non programer users13:32
Unit193Workarounds are always unofficial, the official fix is to wait for the fix.13:35
GridCubeyes13:35
GridCubetrue that13:35
GridCubethen i need an unofficial person who understand to make a safe script that i can like people without fear13:36
olbiAre there Daily Build of stable ISO or it is doing once for some time?13:44
smartboyhwolbi, for non-LTS releases there will not be any builds after the released image. For LTS releases there will still be daily builds, and releases of images with updates13:44
olbismartboyhw: thx13:45
ali1234GridCube: just link people to the gtk3 instructions :/13:50
GridCubeali1234, where them?13:51
brainwashbug 123899713:51
ubottubug 1238997 in xfce4-panel (Ubuntu) "Add support for GTK3 panel indicators" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123899713:51
GridCubethats confusing13:51
brainwashlink included13:51
ali1234GridCube: then help to put it in a ppa13:51
GridCubebut thats the fix, that will eventually come anyway13:51
ali1234yeah, in 14.0413:52
GridCubeyes13:52
ali1234have fun waiting13:52
GridCubethats not what im talking about, im talking about giving plain user a simple way to have a working desktop in 5 seconds13:52
ali1234by editing some configuration files?13:52
ali1234every time they upgrade?13:52
GridCubethe workaround does that, if i knew how to do the .sh file i would but im afraid ill make mistakes13:53
GridCubeand i don't know what i would be doing13:53
GridCubethats why i asked if someone who knew could do it, if not then its not really an issue, i will keep pointing people to the bug report and leave them in their own frustration13:54
ali1234why is it that people want sill workarounds instead of a proper fix?13:54
brainwashI'll ignore this issue from now on13:57
GridCubealright then14:03
bluesabreparole-0.5.90 (dev release for 0.6.0) finally released: http://www.smdavis.us/2013/10/19/parole-media-player-0-5-90/16:50
bluesabrenot that we don't have enough to do around here :)16:50
olbi:)16:53
olbiso many changes :D16:53
bluesabreochosi and I have been working hard on it for a while now :)16:54
astraljavaochosi: or anyone really, can you confirm the missing browser text field suggestion list index highlight on Greybird theme? I can see it on Bluebird.17:18
astraljavaTried on Chrome, will give it a go on Firefox next.17:19
astraljavaOh well, seems to affect Chrome only.17:35
astraljavaTough luck17:35
soundnoworksound no work :(18:19
ali1234yeah, we know18:19
brainwashsoundnowork: go away18:24
soundnoworkok, bye18:24
brainwashali1234: still no comment on your patch for xfce4-terminal :/18:30
ali1234i might have the ability to commit it myself, not sure :)18:30
brainwashgo for it! :)18:31
skellatSome received static: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1208204/comments/6619:09
ubottuUbuntu bug 1208204 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin" [High,Triaged]19:09
brainwashuntested is the wrong word :)19:15
brainwashsomeone published a "patch" in the previous comment19:16
knomebrainwash, what was that (re: soundnowork)?20:34
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brainwashknome: dunno20:55
brainwashochosi: interesting, "dm-tool switch-to-greeter" triggers gnome-screensaver in the active session, but the label shown in the greeter is still labeled "login"20:56
brainwashochosi: ah, so it's basically user-switching and screen locking20:58
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