| Unit193 | brainwash: Having your fun for the evening? | 00:54 | 
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| brainwash | bug 1222021 | 09:26 | 
| ubottu | bug 1222021 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Laptop sleeps when lid is closed, regardless of Power Manager Settings." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1222021 | 09:26 | 
| brainwash | xfpm needs to inhibit the systemd lock-on-lid-close trigger | 09:27 | 
| brainwash | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/saucy/gnome-settings-daemon/saucy/revision/248/debian/patches/logind_support.patch | 09:30 | 
| brainwash | ehm, sleep-on-lid-close I mean | 09:31 | 
| brainwash | is it always that silent in this channel after a release? :) | 11:50 | 
| Unit193 | Well I'm busy trying to patch something in a language I don't know. :D | 11:53 | 
| brainwash | sounds familiar :) | 12:05 | 
| olbi | hello, do you know when will be fixed that bug with sound indicator? :) | 12:28 | 
| forestpiskie | /list | 12:34 | 
| forestpiskie | whoops | 12:34 | 
| forestpiskie | olbi: not at the moment I don't - but it's unlikely that anything will happen very soon | 12:36 | 
| olbi | that sounds bad :( | 12:37 | 
| Unit193 | brainwash: Except you know what you're doing. :P | 12:42 | 
| brainwash | Unit193: I'm not an expert and I get confused by all the different APIs pretty easily | 12:48 | 
| brainwash | yes, we did it! we hit the 500 heat mark | 12:50 | 
| olbi | so how I can using now sound without this strange fix? :P | 13:07 | 
| olbi | only PulseAudio? | 13:08 | 
| olbi | GUI? | 13:08 | 
| brainwash | this workaround isn't strange | 13:10 | 
| brainwash | it's straightforward | 13:10 | 
| brainwash | apply it and the indicator will work just like in 13.04 | 13:11 | 
| olbi | I know that it work, but some says that it could cause some trauble :P | 13:12 | 
| brainwash | the "comment 5" fix? | 13:12 | 
| olbi | comment 27 | 13:13 | 
| brainwash | comment 41 | 13:14 | 
| brainwash | this one is only needed if you run unity/gnome3 side by side with xubuntu/xfce | 13:14 | 
| brainwash | otherwise use the simple version (comment 5) | 13:15 | 
| olbi | ok | 13:15 | 
| GridCube | brainwash, you understand the things said in comment 41? | 13:16 | 
| GridCube | can you make a simple explaination so i can point people to it to read it? maybe a .sh they can run? | 13:16 | 
| olbi | it could be sh with gksudo :) | 13:17 | 
| GridCube | that would be nice | 13:17 | 
| brainwash | it executes a shell command: test if Xfce is running, if yes -> load the gtk2 sound indicator, if no -> load the gtk3 indicator | 13:18 | 
| olbi | maybe today do it and I could test it | 13:19 | 
| olbi | than send it to mailing list | 13:19 | 
| GridCube | olbi, i dont want to impose him to do anything :) | 13:19 | 
| olbi | this was suggestion :] | 13:20 | 
| GridCube | i don't understand this but its something we eagerly need | 13:20 | 
| olbi | ok, I have another question with translations, in Preferences there are Additional Drivers and Printers, from where they take PO files? | 13:21 | 
| brainwash | to be honest, don't expect any official fix for it, the main goal is to provide a new version of xfce4-panel with the gtk3 indicator wrapper in the backports repository | 13:22 | 
| GridCube | brainwash, i know, but for the moment we need a workaround, and comment 41 seems the most reasonable, if only we can make it user friendly :/ | 13:23 | 
| brainwash | it is user friendly | 13:25 | 
| brainwash | or you mean some sort of 1 click script | 13:25 | 
| brainwash | maybe even an extra PPA o.o | 13:25 | 
| GridCube | brainwash, that workaround needs to be run everytime an user start an xfce session? or is it a one time only? | 13:28 | 
| GridCube | no, i dont think a ppa is needed, maybe just a script that can be run | 13:28 | 
| brainwash | one time (until the file gets changes by an update) | 13:28 | 
| brainwash | changed | 13:28 | 
| GridCube | like a "official fix this thing script" from us | 13:29 | 
| brainwash | unofficial | 13:30 | 
| GridCube | well if i can get knome to put in on the xubuntu.org blog that would do it "semi-official" :P | 13:31 | 
| brainwash | the bug report is already linked (known issues list) | 13:31 | 
| GridCube | yes | 13:31 | 
| GridCube | im talking about a script that puts the workaround to work, not just a link to something alien to non programer users | 13:32 | 
| Unit193 | Workarounds are always unofficial, the official fix is to wait for the fix. | 13:35 | 
| GridCube | yes | 13:35 | 
| GridCube | true that | 13:35 | 
| GridCube | then i need an unofficial person who understand to make a safe script that i can like people without fear | 13:36 | 
| olbi | Are there Daily Build of stable ISO or it is doing once for some time? | 13:44 | 
| smartboyhw | olbi, for non-LTS releases there will not be any builds after the released image. For LTS releases there will still be daily builds, and releases of images with updates | 13:44 | 
| olbi | smartboyhw: thx | 13:45 | 
| ali1234 | GridCube: just link people to the gtk3 instructions :/ | 13:50 | 
| GridCube | ali1234, where them? | 13:51 | 
| brainwash | bug 1238997 | 13:51 | 
| ubottu | bug 1238997 in xfce4-panel (Ubuntu) "Add support for GTK3 panel indicators" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1238997 | 13:51 | 
| GridCube | thats confusing | 13:51 | 
| brainwash | link included | 13:51 | 
| ali1234 | GridCube: then help to put it in a ppa | 13:51 | 
| GridCube | but thats the fix, that will eventually come anyway | 13:51 | 
| ali1234 | yeah, in 14.04 | 13:52 | 
| GridCube | yes | 13:52 | 
| ali1234 | have fun waiting | 13:52 | 
| GridCube | thats not what im talking about, im talking about giving plain user a simple way to have a working desktop in 5 seconds | 13:52 | 
| ali1234 | by editing some configuration files? | 13:52 | 
| ali1234 | every time they upgrade? | 13:52 | 
| GridCube | the workaround does that, if i knew how to do the .sh file i would but im afraid ill make mistakes | 13:53 | 
| GridCube | and i don't know what i would be doing | 13:53 | 
| GridCube | thats why i asked if someone who knew could do it, if not then its not really an issue, i will keep pointing people to the bug report and leave them in their own frustration | 13:54 | 
| ali1234 | why is it that people want sill workarounds instead of a proper fix? | 13:54 | 
| brainwash | I'll ignore this issue from now on | 13:57 | 
| GridCube | alright then | 14:03 | 
| bluesabre | parole-0.5.90 (dev release for 0.6.0) finally released: http://www.smdavis.us/2013/10/19/parole-media-player-0-5-90/ | 16:50 | 
| bluesabre | not that we don't have enough to do around here :) | 16:50 | 
| olbi | :) | 16:53 | 
| olbi | so many changes :D | 16:53 | 
| bluesabre | ochosi and I have been working hard on it for a while now :) | 16:54 | 
| astraljava | ochosi: or anyone really, can you confirm the missing browser text field suggestion list index highlight on Greybird theme? I can see it on Bluebird. | 17:18 | 
| astraljava | Tried on Chrome, will give it a go on Firefox next. | 17:19 | 
| astraljava | Oh well, seems to affect Chrome only. | 17:35 | 
| astraljava | Tough luck | 17:35 | 
| soundnowork | sound no work :( | 18:19 | 
| ali1234 | yeah, we know | 18:19 | 
| brainwash | soundnowork: go away | 18:24 | 
| soundnowork | ok, bye | 18:24 | 
| brainwash | ali1234: still no comment on your patch for xfce4-terminal :/ | 18:30 | 
| ali1234 | i might have the ability to commit it myself, not sure :) | 18:30 | 
| brainwash | go for it! :) | 18:31 | 
| skellat | Some received static: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1208204/comments/66 | 19:09 | 
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1208204 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin" [High,Triaged] | 19:09 | 
| brainwash | untested is the wrong word :) | 19:15 | 
| brainwash | someone published a "patch" in the previous comment | 19:16 | 
| knome | brainwash, what was that (re: soundnowork)? | 20:34 | 
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| brainwash | knome: dunno | 20:55 | 
| brainwash | ochosi: interesting, "dm-tool switch-to-greeter" triggers gnome-screensaver in the active session, but the label shown in the greeter is still labeled "login" | 20:56 | 
| brainwash | ochosi: ah, so it's basically user-switching and screen locking | 20:58 | 
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