[00:54] <Unit193> brainwash: Having your fun for the evening?
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[09:26] <brainwash> bug 1222021
[09:26] <ubottu> bug 1222021 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Laptop sleeps when lid is closed, regardless of Power Manager Settings." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1222021
[09:27] <brainwash> xfpm needs to inhibit the systemd lock-on-lid-close trigger
[09:30] <brainwash> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/saucy/gnome-settings-daemon/saucy/revision/248/debian/patches/logind_support.patch
[09:31] <brainwash> ehm, sleep-on-lid-close I mean
[11:50] <brainwash> is it always that silent in this channel after a release? :)
[11:53] <Unit193> Well I'm busy trying to patch something in a language I don't know. :D
[12:05] <brainwash> sounds familiar :)
[12:28] <olbi> hello, do you know when will be fixed that bug with sound indicator? :)
[12:34] <forestpiskie>  /list
[12:34] <forestpiskie> whoops
[12:36] <forestpiskie> olbi: not at the moment I don't - but it's unlikely that anything will happen very soon
[12:37] <olbi> that sounds bad :(
[12:42] <Unit193> brainwash: Except you know what you're doing. :P
[12:48] <brainwash> Unit193: I'm not an expert and I get confused by all the different APIs pretty easily
[12:50] <brainwash> yes, we did it! we hit the 500 heat mark
[13:07] <olbi> so how I can using now sound without this strange fix? :P
[13:08] <olbi> only PulseAudio?
[13:08] <olbi> GUI?
[13:10] <brainwash> this workaround isn't strange
[13:10] <brainwash> it's straightforward
[13:11] <brainwash> apply it and the indicator will work just like in 13.04
[13:12] <olbi> I know that it work, but some says that it could cause some trauble :P
[13:12] <brainwash> the "comment 5" fix?
[13:13] <olbi> comment 27
[13:14] <brainwash> comment 41
[13:14] <brainwash> this one is only needed if you run unity/gnome3 side by side with xubuntu/xfce
[13:15] <brainwash> otherwise use the simple version (comment 5)
[13:15] <olbi> ok
[13:16] <GridCube> brainwash, you understand the things said in comment 41?
[13:16] <GridCube> can you make a simple explaination so i can point people to it to read it? maybe a .sh they can run?
[13:17] <olbi> it could be sh with gksudo :)
[13:17] <GridCube> that would be nice
[13:18] <brainwash> it executes a shell command: test if Xfce is running, if yes -> load the gtk2 sound indicator, if no -> load the gtk3 indicator
[13:19] <olbi> maybe today do it and I could test it
[13:19] <olbi> than send it to mailing list
[13:19] <GridCube> olbi, i dont want to impose him to do anything :)
[13:20] <olbi> this was suggestion :]
[13:20] <GridCube> i don't understand this but its something we eagerly need
[13:21] <olbi> ok, I have another question with translations, in Preferences there are Additional Drivers and Printers, from where they take PO files?
[13:22] <brainwash> to be honest, don't expect any official fix for it, the main goal is to provide a new version of xfce4-panel with the gtk3 indicator wrapper in the backports repository
[13:23] <GridCube> brainwash, i know, but for the moment we need a workaround, and comment 41 seems the most reasonable, if only we can make it user friendly :/
[13:25] <brainwash> it is user friendly
[13:25] <brainwash> or you mean some sort of 1 click script
[13:25] <brainwash> maybe even an extra PPA o.o
[13:28] <GridCube> brainwash, that workaround needs to be run everytime an user start an xfce session? or is it a one time only?
[13:28] <GridCube> no, i dont think a ppa is needed, maybe just a script that can be run
[13:28] <brainwash> one time (until the file gets changes by an update)
[13:28] <brainwash> changed
[13:29] <GridCube> like a "official fix this thing script" from us
[13:30] <brainwash> unofficial
[13:31] <GridCube> well if i can get knome to put in on the xubuntu.org blog that would do it "semi-official" :P
[13:31] <brainwash> the bug report is already linked (known issues list)
[13:31] <GridCube> yes
[13:32] <GridCube> im talking about a script that puts the workaround to work, not just a link to something alien to non programer users
[13:35] <Unit193> Workarounds are always unofficial, the official fix is to wait for the fix.
[13:35] <GridCube> yes
[13:35] <GridCube> true that
[13:36] <GridCube> then i need an unofficial person who understand to make a safe script that i can like people without fear
[13:44] <olbi> Are there Daily Build of stable ISO or it is doing once for some time?
[13:44] <smartboyhw> olbi, for non-LTS releases there will not be any builds after the released image. For LTS releases there will still be daily builds, and releases of images with updates
[13:45] <olbi> smartboyhw: thx
[13:50] <ali1234> GridCube: just link people to the gtk3 instructions :/
[13:51] <GridCube> ali1234, where them?
[13:51] <brainwash> bug 1238997
[13:51] <ubottu> bug 1238997 in xfce4-panel (Ubuntu) "Add support for GTK3 panel indicators" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1238997
[13:51] <GridCube> thats confusing
[13:51] <brainwash> link included
[13:51] <ali1234> GridCube: then help to put it in a ppa
[13:51] <GridCube> but thats the fix, that will eventually come anyway
[13:52] <ali1234> yeah, in 14.04
[13:52] <GridCube> yes
[13:52] <ali1234> have fun waiting
[13:52] <GridCube> thats not what im talking about, im talking about giving plain user a simple way to have a working desktop in 5 seconds
[13:52] <ali1234> by editing some configuration files?
[13:52] <ali1234> every time they upgrade?
[13:53] <GridCube> the workaround does that, if i knew how to do the .sh file i would but im afraid ill make mistakes
[13:53] <GridCube> and i don't know what i would be doing
[13:54] <GridCube> thats why i asked if someone who knew could do it, if not then its not really an issue, i will keep pointing people to the bug report and leave them in their own frustration
[13:54] <ali1234> why is it that people want sill workarounds instead of a proper fix?
[13:57] <brainwash> I'll ignore this issue from now on
[14:03] <GridCube> alright then
[16:50] <bluesabre> parole-0.5.90 (dev release for 0.6.0) finally released: http://www.smdavis.us/2013/10/19/parole-media-player-0-5-90/
[16:50] <bluesabre> not that we don't have enough to do around here :)
[16:53] <olbi> :)
[16:53] <olbi> so many changes :D
[16:54] <bluesabre> ochosi and I have been working hard on it for a while now :)
[17:18] <astraljava> ochosi: or anyone really, can you confirm the missing browser text field suggestion list index highlight on Greybird theme? I can see it on Bluebird.
[17:19] <astraljava> Tried on Chrome, will give it a go on Firefox next.
[17:35] <astraljava> Oh well, seems to affect Chrome only.
[17:35] <astraljava> Tough luck
[18:19] <soundnowork> sound no work :(
[18:19] <ali1234> yeah, we know
[18:24] <brainwash> soundnowork: go away
[18:24] <soundnowork> ok, bye
[18:30] <brainwash> ali1234: still no comment on your patch for xfce4-terminal :/
[18:30] <ali1234> i might have the ability to commit it myself, not sure :)
[18:31] <brainwash> go for it! :)
[19:09] <skellat> Some received static: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1208204/comments/66
[19:09] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 1208204 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin" [High,Triaged]
[19:15] <brainwash> untested is the wrong word :)
[19:16] <brainwash> someone published a "patch" in the previous comment
[20:34] <knome> brainwash, what was that (re: soundnowork)?
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[20:55] <brainwash> knome: dunno
[20:56] <brainwash> ochosi: interesting, "dm-tool switch-to-greeter" triggers gnome-screensaver in the active session, but the label shown in the greeter is still labeled "login"
[20:58] <brainwash> ochosi: ah, so it's basically user-switching and screen locking
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