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xubuntu605I'm hoping someone can help me.... I just updated to xubuntu 13.10 everything seemed fine until I turned off the computer, turned it back on and not my desktop area is just a grey void... no background no icons for home or trash no nothing!00:17
xubuntu605anyone have an idea?00:19
xubuntu189anyone home?00:41
xubuntu189anyone?00:43
xubuntu870hello00:49
Unit193xubuntu870: Howdy, you have a question?00:54
Unit193Ah, I see.  I'd say start by checking the logs, .xsession, .cache/upstart/startxfce4  check if the xfdesktop is running, and better yet, delete ~/.cache/sessions and relogin.00:55
xubuntu870hi yes I do00:57
xubuntu870I updated to 13.10 xubuntu today00:57
xubuntu870now my desktop is gone00:57
xubuntu870I have the panels at the top and bottom of the screen but my wallpaper and desktop icons have been replaced with a grey void00:58
xubuntu870hoping someone smarter than I has an idea how to fix it00:58
mdeangelo272_hello, I am trying to use the xfce4-terminal with vim02:02
mdeangelo272_and for some reason the terminal is not piping the clipboard into vim correctly02:03
mdeangelo272_with most terminals you can access the clipboard in vim using the "* or "+ registers02:03
holsteinive really been enjoying terminator02:04
mdeangelo272_but for some reason the xfce terminal is not piping into the unnamed registers correctly02:04
holstein!info terminator02:04
ubottuterminator (source: terminator): multiple GNOME terminals in one window. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.97-1ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 335 kB, installed size 2048 kB02:04
mdeangelo272_has anyone else experienced this02:04
puffI have a thinkpad t520 with intel wireless.  Ever since I installed 13.04 the wireless routinely dies every 30-40 minutes. If I enable/disable wireless I get it back.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6260992/02:16
holsteinpuff: are you up to date with upgrade? have you tried 13.10? 13.04 only has a few more months of support, so, if 13.10 "just works",, i would just go with it02:42
holsteinpuff: you can try "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"02:42
puffholstein: Drat, 13.4 isn't an LTS?02:56
holstein!12.0402:56
ubottuXubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the current !LTS release of Xubuntu.  Download at http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu  Release notes at http://xubuntu.org/news/12-04-release/02:56
puffholstein: I guess I might as well upgrade to 13.10 then.02:56
holsteinpuff: 14.04 will (should) be02:57
puffholstein:  Yeah, I was on 12.04 for the longest time.02:57
puffholstein: I hate the upgrade treadmill.02:57
puffI have two major problems I'm trying to solve a) wifi dying constantly and b) getting my displayport or the dock's DVI out to work02:57
puffb) isn't really a problem, except in so far as it's keeping me from using my oculus rift :-(02:58
falkenI am having the wifi problem to02:58
puffHm, apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade are done.02:58
puffholstein: It's been yeeeears since I've done a dist-upgrade.  Usually I've ended up hosing my system and had to reinstall.  Guess I need to reboot now?02:59
holsteinpuff: i would, at some point, rule out faulty hardware03:00
pufffalken: For me, it just stops working, and then I go to the network-manager dropdown and my AP doesn't show up.  If I bounce the network (disable and then enable) the AP shows up again, I get a connection, everything starts working again.03:00
puffholstein: It just started happening when I moved up.03:00
puffholstein: I had some wifi issues with 12.04, but not nearly as bad as this.03:00
falkenpuff: I got the same problem what adapter are you using?03:01
holsteinpuff: if it were me, i would load up an operating system that supports the hardware officially and test a driver that is supplied by the vendor, and rule out (definitively) hardware isues03:01
pufffalken: thinkpad t520 with intel centrino wireless N.03:02
holsteinpuff: then, you can move on to other options, like, for me, these days hardware is just too affordable to sit around with linux not working on it03:02
holsteini just take the chips out and replace them with ones that work well in linux03:02
puffholstein: Good point, but that'd mean I'd have to dig up a windows install CD somewhere.03:02
puffholstein: Yeah, but this is a thinkpad.03:02
falkenI have used this adapter on many distros no problem03:03
puffholstein: Not as easy to just swap the wireless out.03:03
holsteinpuff: you dont have to, but otherwise, you are assuming, and potentially wasting time troubleshooting a software issues03:03
puffholstein: Yeah,it's worth checking.03:03
puffholstein: What's really annoying is, I have the thinkpad windows recovery disks, but they just take over the entire hard drive.  No way to specify which partition,e tc.03:03
holsteinpuff: you can disable and plug a USB.. you *can* replace, if you want.. but again, you dont have to.. i took my EEE apart and swapped the broadcom for something "better"03:03
puffholstein: The intel was *supposed* to be the better :-(03:04
holsteinpuff: image with clonezilla.. or, another hard drive03:04
puffholstein: I asked on the linux-thinkpad mailing list, everybody said stick with intel wireless.03:04
puffholstein: Yeah.  Working on that.03:04
puffOkay, dist-upgraded an rebooted.03:05
falkenpuff: i use an alfa AWUS036H great adapter for linux.  never had this problem before03:05
holsteinpuff: the "think-pad mailing list" officially support linux?03:05
puffholstein: the linux-thinkpad mailing list, for thinkpad owners who run linux.03:06
holsteinstill, they either officially support it, or not03:06
holsteinif not, then, you really arent going to get any "better" information03:06
puffholstein: In theory ubuntu is "certified" for thinkpad, but there appears to be no thinkpad-specific version of ubuntu.03:07
holsteinpuff: that and a dollar gets you what?03:07
puffhttp://www.ubuntu.com/certification/make/Lenovo/03:07
D7Hi, if I set an autologin user for lightdm; when I start the service will the user be logged in, or will the user only be logged in on boot?03:07
puffholstein: Not even a cup of coffee, these days.03:07
puffholstein: Hm, dist-upgrade didn't seem to work, apt sources are still raring.03:08
holsteinpuff: the few i click on from that list suggest, as i did, the 12.04 LTS version03:09
holsteinpuff: thats not a dist upgrade03:10
puffholstein: Can you clarify that comment?03:10
holsteinpuff: thats just to upgrade the packages in 13.04 so you can test with the upgraded firmware and kernel packages which could potentially "fix" the support for your wifi03:10
puffAh.03:10
holsteinpuff: you did reboot thouth, correct?03:10
puffYeah.03:11
holsteini would just use it, and see if its better.. then i would first connect to an access point with no encryption and test, then i would try and test with windows to make certain the hardware is not broken.. then i would go back to 12.04, or up to 13.10, testing both live before changing my hard drive03:12
puffYeah.03:13
puffWhat are the odds that 13.10 will get my DisplayPort or DVI working?03:13
puffBecause if there's a chance, I'll upgrade now.03:13
holsteinpuff: try it live.. the intel stuff should be baked in the kernel and able to test live03:14
puffYeah, I guess I could download and burn a live CD.03:14
holsteinor usb.. or an android phone with droid drive.. or whatever works03:16
puffdroid drive?03:18
puffholstein: What's droid drive?  Nothing comes up on google (or on google play)03:20
holsteinpuff: http://softwarebakery.com/projects/drivedroid03:23
puffholstein: Neat, so drivedroid basically lets you boot your PC off a virtual USB drive on your phone?03:26
holsteinpuff: i use it do do what you mentioned you want to do above, without buring a cd.. or needing to make a USB. or any bootable media.03:28
puffCool.03:32
puffThanks for the advice, I have to go AFK now.03:32
cheesegrinderI have an ASUS 1000HE netbook with xubuntu 13.04. Should I expect any loss in functionality if I upgrade to 13.10?03:52
SonikkuAmericacheesegrinder: What are you worried about?03:57
cheesegrinderpotentially losing wifi or other hardware driver support or something03:58
SonikkuAmericacheesegrinder: The only blatant issue I know of is the volume icon not working.03:58
cheesegrinderI guess 14.04 is the next LTS release. I just didn't want to lose support for anything04:00
SonikkuAmericacheesegrinder: Yes, it is. It's also been codenamed - Trusty Tahr.04:00
SonikkuAmerica!releasenotes04:01
ubottuUbuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) release notes can be found here http://ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/13.1004:01
SonikkuAmericacheesegrinder: ^04:01
tinman_where is my "Source function library"?04:01
cheesegrinderthanks ubottu04:01
cheesegrinderthanks, guys. i'm upgrading now04:05
GerowenGreetings Xubuntu gurus.  Having recently given xubuntu-desktop a trial run, I've discovered it has a lot of the features of the old Gnome 2 that I like and runs a lot faster than Unity.  What is the easiest way to remove Unity and the default "ubuntu-desktop" packages?  I plan on using Synaptic and saving the markings in case I want to put it back later, but I'd like to slim the system down as much as possible and let Xubuntu04:59
Gerowen(XFCE) take over for the login screen/display manager and do most of the work.04:59
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Unit193http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexubuntu That's somewhat outdated now sadly, but generally you can remove most packages with unity in the name, but that doesn't quite cover it.05:01
jjinco331Hello a few long lines coming ... hoping to get some help with issue since I installed Xubuntu 13.10 today. I originally upgraded from 13.04 this morning to 13.10 using the upgrade tool, I had some odd effects such as it did something to my monitor that forced me to forcibly power cycle it to get it to even come back on (never happened before, but happened after upgrade reboot), and then my kernel was stuck at 3.8, so I just reins05:19
jjinco331I have an ATI Radeon HD 7870 (also tried an older HD Radeon 5770) graphics card, and the open source drivers don't have 3d hardware acceleration, so as usual I installed the fglrx package for the catalyst driver. On reboot, login screen was fine, but after logging in, my panels opened, my startup apps opened, my mouse cursor diasappeared, though I could get focus on panels by moving it.05:20
jjinco331Trying to open any menu produced no visible results, if I used a hotkey to open Application finder or the application launcher it closed as soon as I typed in it. Switching to a tty I purged out the fglrx packages and rebooted. All was operational again on the open drivers. Tried enabling the fglrx and updates at various times through the Software and Updates Additional Drivers tab, launched alone and through Synaptic all with the05:20
jjinco331Any advice on how to troubleshoot or resolve the issue outside of buying an Nvidia card?05:21
MegaQuagganI can't offer much help aside from recommending you look for patches for the existing binary driver for your card. In my case, 13.10 made the binary driver for my NVIDIA card not work and it required significant amounts of patching before it would install properly, and there are still some issues. It may take some time before updated binary drivers are released.05:23
jjinco331That was the odd thing, at least when I checked versions from 13.04 after the upgrade, it appeared to have the same catalyst version, but it may have updated once I installed from scratch, I will check05:24
jjinco331Maybe try to install from the AMD website, but I usually just end up with a nonfunctional display after that05:25
MegaQuagganIf you're desperate for working 3D acceleration I'd go back to 13.04. since 13.10 was just released it's gonna take the graphics card manufacturers time to catch up. Trying to find a working driver at this time is a crapshoot.05:30
jjinco331Yeah, my desktop is just so slow now even with compositing off ... not even sure why I upgraded so fats, usually wait a solid 3 months to let these things get worked out first.05:37
ivan_hola07:19
elfyhello07:19
dagomarBuenos dias alguien habla español?08:34
bekks!es | dagomar08:34
ubottudagomar: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.08:34
dagomarGracias y perdor por las molestias08:36
jonas___good day10:57
jonas___i ahve a question regarding lightdm, how do i set lightdm to display my .face, with an encrypted home folder ?10:57
m3kk.face?11:09
sofiashello (typing on android, excuse the slowness)11:21
sofiasi just upgaded (x)ubuntu, and now it hangs on boot. i suspect it's the login manager as described in the first google hits. now i need to enter the shell somehow to reinstall it.11:24
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sofiasit should be an option in the grub menu but i forgot the secret key to enter it.11:27
sofiassorry, reconnect.11:27
brainwashtry Shift11:27
sofiasi just tried shift, doesn't seen to work :(11:32
xubuntu714How do I narrow down the likely cause of black screen on logout of Xubuntu on 13.10, upgraded from 13.04. After logging out, no access to VT or power off button. Restart works but shutdown does not power off machine. Same issue experienced on 13.04.12:16
sofiasok, i got to the shell now. but "apt-get install --reinstall" for lightdm and xubuntu-desktop don't seen to help. any other ideas?12:23
sofiasdoesn't ubuntu have wayland now? maybe i habe a wayland issue…12:25
bingoHello. I am using Xubuntu and cant find the volume. Is there something to install ?12:37
GridCubebingo, sadly thats a know bug  120820412:39
ubottubug 1208204 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120820412:39
GridCubebingo, see comment 4112:40
bingoty12:40
bingofrom xubuntu.org?12:40
bingooh12:40
bingoso the keyboard is only way to adjust volume ?12:40
GridCubeno, see comment 4112:41
GridCubeyou can also add a launcher for pavucontrol if you think that that workaround is not for you12:43
GridCubesadly there is no better way of doing it because xfce panels are gtk2 and the indicators a re gtk312:43
bingois 41 an abbreviation ?12:43
GridCube?12:44
GridCubehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1208204/comments/4112:44
ubottuUbuntu bug 1208204 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin" [High,Triaged]12:44
bingoty12:44
GridCubethe comment 4112:44
bingodont understand that but my keyboard volume is working12:44
bingojust using function f7 or f812:44
bingobetter than nothing12:45
GridCubebingo, then just add a launcher in your panel for the program pavucontrol12:45
bingoill try to find it, ty12:45
bingoone other thing. I cant seem to empty trash12:45
bingoalso, where can i find pavucontrol?12:46
bingosearching didnt find it12:46
GridCubebingo, how you searched it?12:46
GridCubepress alt-f2 and type "pavucontrol"12:47
bingoapplication finder12:47
bingok12:47
bingoyep found it, ty12:47
bingohow would i make a launcher?12:47
GridCubeon a panel do left-clic>panel >add new element >launcher12:48
GridCubethat will create a launcher at the bottom of the panel you selected12:48
bingoyes12:49
GridCubethen left clic it and go to propieties, clic the small + icon with the sheet, and in the "command" type "pavucontrol"12:49
GridCubeadd it any name you want and any icon you wish12:50
bingoty12:51
GridCubethen you just have an application launcher that will launch the sound configuration program12:51
bingoyep :)12:52
GridCubeit wont work as an indicator though, no scrolling over it or showing current songs or any like that, for that you need to follow comment 4112:52
bingoif i may ask you a final thing, i cant seem to empty recycle12:52
bingono no just volume is great12:52
GridCubeok12:52
GridCubemmm i dont know about that bingo sorry12:53
GridCubeare you sure you have permission to delete those files? are they own to you or to root?12:53
bingothey have locks12:54
bingoall i know12:54
GridCubeyes12:54
GridCubethey dont belong to you12:54
bingoahh but thye should12:54
bingoi was from something i installed to home12:54
bingothen erased12:54
GridCubedid you upgraded from a preious install?12:54
bingostrange, if i highlighted them within trash i was able to delete12:55
bingono12:55
bingoclean install12:55
GridCubeweird12:55
bingolooks like im set, thanks a bunch12:55
GridCubedoes "file > empry trash can" works?12:55
GridCubeoh, alrgith12:55
bingodoes no12:55
bingonow12:56
GridCubeinteresting12:56
bingoare there any other tweaks to Xubuntu as far as how it looks that wont take resources ?12:56
GridCubeif you see that behaviour again please report it12:56
bingoi will12:56
bingoalso cant seem to eject drives12:56
GridCubebingo, there is ways of working on xfce that will make your life happier12:56
bingolike the duel boot drive etc..12:56
bingoim sure12:57
GridCubefor example, press alt and clic-drag a window anyware to move it arround, press alt and left-clic to resize windows12:57
bingoty12:58
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Guest19503Hi, peoples13:56
Guest19503I have some problems on my xubuntu 13.1013:56
Guest19503after update 13.04 to 13.10 doesnt work settings in power supply menu13:58
xubuntu578Hello14:00
xubuntu578Bonjour ?14:00
Guest19503i choose "Do nothing" in action then close top notebook, but it goes to sleep mode (((14:00
Guest19503hi14:00
xubuntu578the sound greffon don't work on ubuntu 13.10 ?14:01
TheAsdHi all, Всем привет Русских много?14:01
Guest19503Привет я  русский14:02
GridCube!ru14:03
ubottuПожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.14:03
Guest19503no no when i close my  top of notebook it goes to sleep mode, but in power settings i set  do nothing14:04
TheAsdThx ;)14:04
xtrizare there any derivatives based on xubuntu ?14:05
brainwashGuest19503: bug 122202114:05
ubottubug 1222021 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Laptop sleeps when lid is closed, regardless of Power Manager Settings." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122202114:05
Guest19503oh thanks))14:05
Guest19503but anybody know how repair it?14:07
ultim8how can i check where is my dosbox program installed? i downloaded games and want to copy them to the dosbox directory.14:07
brainwashGuest19503: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1180513/comments/614:08
ubottuUbuntu bug 1180513 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "lid close actions are ignored laptop always suspends" [High,Fix released]14:08
ToZGuest19503, can you try something? Edit /etc/systemd/logind.conf and add   HandleLidSwitch=ignore  to the bottom of the file? Reboot to test.14:08
brainwashToZ: :D14:08
ToZHi brainwash14:09
Guest19503oh14:10
Guest19503but im beginner in linux((14:10
brainwashxfce4-power-manager needs to be aware of the logind sleep-on-lid trigger and inhibit it14:10
brainwashToZ: not sure if anyone will implement it anytime soon =S14:11
Guest19503thank you for help)14:11
ToZbrainwash, is it? On this laptop, I was getting double suspends on lid close until I made that change.14:11
brainwashToZ: it's the default behavior of systemd/logind, but xfpm cannot prevent it as of now14:12
brainwashToZ: talking about a real fix, not a workaround by editing the conf file :)14:13
ToZbrainwash, I see.14:13
ultim8Hi. Can anyone tell me with what software can i watch this movie in xubuntu?14:15
rhodiumhello!anyone there ?14:21
popolonhi14:21
popolonnobody think to patch the problem of sound-indcator path  ?14:21
popolonthis just annoy 100% of xubuntu users ?14:21
popolonfew that speak/read english + have some technical knowledge could resolve by themselves14:22
rhodiumhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/360806/volume-indicator-issue-after-xubuntu-13-10-upgrade14:22
popolonmost people will think that linux doesn't work + too complex to be used ?14:22
rhodiumI fixed just like that14:22
popolonrhodium, I know14:22
popolonbut most user won't understand why14:22
rhodiumahh right14:22
rhodiumcan I ask u sth14:22
popolonthe bug report is 4 month old14:22
popolonthe solution is given in the bug report :(14:23
rhodium?14:23
popolonand nobody changed just the path line !!!14:23
popolonhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/120820414:23
ubottuUbuntu bug 1208204 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin" [High,Triaged]14:23
rhodiumI can only boot xubuntu with acpi=off but this disables wireless14:23
popolonand on xubuntu release note : known bug, but still no correction :(14:24
popolonone line to change14:24
rhodiumso I have to restart again .If I change it to grub.conf I loose wireless permanently ?14:24
rhodiumdo u think u can help me out ?14:24
popolona reconfigure + remove the wrong x86_64-linux-gnu should not be so hard to fix in package ???14:24
ToZultim8, Parole. You may need to have xubuntu-restricted-extras installed.14:25
brainwashtell the maintainer of "indicator-sound" to patch it.. this is not a xubuntu-specific package14:25
popolonthis is really the main problem of ubuntu, nobody take care of bugreports, since ~4 or more years I use ubuntu :(14:25
GridCuberhodium, at that level the configuration issue is the same as in mainbuntu so you might have better help at #ubuntu because theres more people there14:25
popolonbye14:25
rhodiumyeah I know but I thought someone here knew a solution14:26
GridCuberhodium, probably14:26
GridCubeyou might have to wait a time then14:26
rhodiumok then.thanks14:26
ultim8ToZ, i have parole. How to play the movie? parole don't see the files as supported ones. It's 00014.m2ts14:29
ultim8*.m2ts files14:29
ToZultim8, I think you will need to either install vlc to play the m2ts file or convert it into a format that parole can recognize14:34
ultim8Toz. i got vlc.. it plays the file.. the problem it's around 30 files,,and the vlc plays 1 file i choose and then stops. so i think it's strange to play 1 by1.14:36
ToZultim8, try creating a playlist in vlc that includes all 30 files, then play the playlist.14:38
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kRushis there ever going to be automatic power management in the oss ati driver?15:25
JohnSmith_Hi Everyone,  How can I save my installed apps  for reinstallation (not just a list). I cleaned up apt cache so aptoncd not going to work.15:54
legg1_You could always make the distro just like you want it, then make a new installer-dvd out of it, with all settings+software installed15:56
legg1_wait, they're not actually open on saturdays?15:57
legg1_woops, wrong chan15:57
ran_i need help16:29
ran_i need help about synaptic16:29
ran_problems with synaptic16:36
sofiashello again16:39
ran_i need help with synaptic16:40
ran_i need help with synaptic on xubuntu 13.1016:40
bazhang!details | ran_16:41
ubotturan_: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."16:41
ran_there is a strange broblem that when onboard (virtual keyboard) is loaded, synaptic crushes.16:42
ran_and if onboard not loaded everything is fine.16:43
ran_i have tried flurance (another virtual keyboard) and synaptic crushed again when is loaded.16:45
ran_so there is a problem with synaptic and virtual keyboards.16:46
sofiasi cant get into graphical login, but i have a root shell now. i tried switching from lightdm to kdm but no noticabke difference.16:50
sofiasdoes upgrading xubuntu automatically switch to wayland?16:50
sofiaswayland seems to be installed but i don't remember unstalling it.16:51
sofiassince the problem seems to be independen of the display manager, i suspect it's somthing to do with wayland, x or graphics drivers. but i don't know how to narrow it down further.16:56
GridCubexfce wont work on wayland16:56
GridCubenot even by far16:56
GridCubeyou need X16:56
GridCubesofias, what problem is that you are having?16:56
jjinco331Maybe that is causing some of my issues16:57
jjinco331I have a buncvh of Wayland libs installed now after fresh install of 13.1016:57
sofiasok, so i guess there was no change to wayland during the upgrade… isn't there some kind of failsave x with ugly graphics?16:59
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GridCubesofias, i assume there is, but you are not using xubuntu if you have wayland, i don't even think kubuntu is shipping wayland already17:01
sofiasi could really need that to make backups of my ~ and an xubuntu-thumbdrive. then i could simply reinstall xubuntu…17:01
GridCubeyeah, the kubuntu release notes say: We are sticking with the X.org graphics17:02
GridCubefor this release17:03
GridCubeso i have no idea why would you have it17:03
sofiascubegrid: thx17:03
GridCube!tab | sofias17:03
ubottusofias: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.17:03
sofiasi'm not sure if i have it, i have 3 libwayland packages installed17:04
paulpaul1076hello, i have a plantronics headset and its a wireless one, i have buttons on it to turn the volume up and down but whenever i use them they only affect the default sound device or something which is my speakers, how do i make them work with my headset?17:07
paulpaul1076i turned off all that built in stuff and it didn't help17:07
sofiasif i try to uninstall it it warns that libgtk, kde-window-manager and some mesa things depend on it…17:08
sofiasso i guess it's not wayland itself…17:09
sofiasCubeGrid: tab autocompletion does'nt work under yaaic (android irc client)17:10
GridCubesofias, then you keep writing my name wrong17:18
sofiasGridCube: oops, sorry ^^17:18
GridCubesofias, try to do "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"17:18
GridCubesecond log in into your home account and rmove the files named .Xauthority and .ICEauthority17:19
GridCubeuse lightdm to log in17:19
sofiasGridCube: xubuntu-desktop is already installed, i also tried --reinstall already. i tried to soitch to my normal user with su, but it wont decrypt my home.17:23
sofiasGridCube: the command in readme.txt about about decrypting home does't work either17:25
GridCubeoh17:26
GridCubeencryption17:26
GridCubethats something i know absolutely nothing about17:27
sofiasGridCube: lightdm won't show up, when it is supposed to start the screen freezes and it doesn't seem to react to anything except the power button (which shuts it down).17:28
sofiasGridCube: it souldn't have to do with anything in my home, because it happens before login17:30
GridCubesofias, i do not know17:36
xubuntu912Hola....17:46
xubuntu912alguien habla español?17:46
GridCube!es | xubuntu912 :) hola17:46
ubottuxubuntu912 :) hola: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.17:46
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aguitelwhy xubuntu run slowly ?18:44
bekksaguitel: Because of a millions possible things.18:45
bekks!details | aguitel18:45
ubottuaguitel: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."18:45
aguitelbekks, sorry but more apps open slowly ,firefox libreoffice18:47
bekksaguitel: which hardware do you have?18:47
aguitelamd64 with 2 gb of ram18:48
aguitelnvidia-304 i am using18:49
aguitelGeForce 7200 GS / 7300 SE18:49
aguitelAthlon6418:49
legg1_7200 GS oO18:50
legg1_That's... REALLY old :X18:50
bekksAthlon64 isnt that fast anymore, a GS7200 is a lowend graphics adapter not that old, and 2GB RAM are enough.18:50
aguitelubuntu 10.04 was the better for this old pc18:50
bekksaguitel: then use 12.0418:51
legg1_bekks, 7200 gs is really old18:51
aguitelbekks, why 12.0418:51
bekkslegg1_: It isnt. I had one of them.18:51
bekksaguitel: Because it is a LTS version.18:51
aguitelnot reason18:52
bekksaguitel: your choice.18:52
legg1_bekks: 2007, it's pretty old ^18:52
aguitelif you say:12.04 is more faster than 13.10 ....18:52
bekkslegg1_: 6 years. Thats not "very old". The Athlon64 is much older.18:52
Poisoned_Dragonlegg1_, No, Nvidia Riva TNT is really old. :)18:54
legg1_Myeah, but still :P18:55
Poisoned_DragonGeforce 7 is less than 10 years old.18:55
legg1_Voodoo 1!18:55
Poisoned_Dragonlol 3dfx!18:55
SonikkuAmericaOld? Anyone use a Matrox Diamond?18:55
Poisoned_DragonThe good ol' days before they went bankrupt.18:55
bekksKids, do you still know what a Tseng graphics adapter was? :)18:55
Poisoned_DragonTseng?18:56
Poisoned_DragonIs that older than Hercules?18:56
bekksYeah. Or Cirrus.18:56
Poisoned_DragonAh, Cirrus.18:56
Poisoned_Dragondon't forget Oak Technoligies and Trident.18:57
bekksTrident \o/ ISA and VLB :)18:57
Poisoned_Dragonlol18:57
legg1_SIS Trio 3D AGP , my first 3d-card with 4mb ram!18:57
legg1_was sick18:57
bekkss/was/is/18:57
bekksSIS still _is_ ...18:57
legg1_that card in particular, not the chip manufacturer18:59
Poisoned_DragonOh gosh... SIS has gone the way of VIA.18:59
sofiasspeaking of graphics: i may have fixed my problem. :D19:01
sofias"startx 2> x.log" revealed that fglrx was missing19:03
sofiaspacket was in fact not installed. installing now.19:03
xubuntu156hi there all user's of Gnu_linux,just passing by (:-)) to wish you a nice weekend19:08
cheesegrinderso, i upgraded to 13.10 last night on my ASUS eee 1000HE netbook. I'm experiencing an issue where my computer now falls to suspend/hibernate mode when I close the lid, regardless of what my power/screensaver settings are19:10
sofiasfuck yeah, it works :D19:11
sofiaspraise the driver gods19:11
cheesegrinderis there a way to just disable suspend/hibernate entirely on my machine?19:11
cheesegrinderi'm even trying the settings manager with no luck :\19:20
cheesegrindersettings editor, rather19:21
aguitelwhat apps is better to remove to improve xubuntu?19:39
aguitelwhen i run :sudo update-grub . it take long time to finish ,why ?19:43
geniiaguitel: There can be various reasons. How many bootable devices and their speeds, how many kernels you have installed, and if you run many different OS then os-prober needs to find them all19:48
aguitelgenii, i have 2 hd and 2 os19:49
geniiaguitel: My best guess then is you have a bunch of old kernels on the Xubuntu that were not removed, and likely your hard drives are not that fast.19:50
aguitelgenii, i remove old kernels19:51
aguitelgenii, see that :http://bpaste.net/show/ocfSudlYbYctdTsBmwlB/19:52
geniiSo then by process of elimination, probably slow HD. Possibly also when you are running the command not much memory and it uses swap19:55
cheesegrindersorry about that. closing the lid turns off all of my hardware including wifi19:57
brainwashcheesegrinder: it's called suspend to RAM19:58
buucheesegrinder: Its pretty funny isn't it19:58
cheesegrinderany way i can fix it? it was working fine in 13.0419:58
brainwashsleep on lid close is disabled in the power manager, right?19:59
brainwashso it's probably bug 122202119:59
ubottubug 1222021 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Laptop sleeps when lid is closed, regardless of Power Manager Settings." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122202119:59
cheesegrindergotcha. thanks19:59
cheesegrinderi'll just wait until there's a fix20:00
brainwashworkaround -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1180513/comments/620:00
ubottuUbuntu bug 1180513 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "lid close actions are ignored laptop always suspends" [High,Fix released]20:00
cheesegrinderwell, i am experiencing an issue that I had in 13.04. when I choose Chromium as the preferred application for opening web links, it never remembers that decision20:00
cheesegrinderoh wow. thanks, guys. huge help20:01
brainwashnot sure about the preferred app issue20:01
cheesegrinderi set it in each app. i've set it under Preferred Applications in Settings Manager20:02
aguitelgenii, maby kernel lowlatency is better for me ?20:02
cheesegrinderand then when I open Chromium again, it says it's not the default browser20:02
geniiaguitel: I don't think so.20:03
aguitelgenii, and other kind of kernel ?20:03
brainwashcheesegrinder: what happens if run "exo-open --launch WebBrowser"?20:03
cheesegrinderopens normally20:04
geniiaguitel: You're better to stick with the kernel which is installed by default.20:04
brainwashchromium, right?20:04
cheesegrindercorrect20:04
aguitelgenii, ok20:04
cheesegrindergranted, i still have chromium windows open20:04
brainwashand if you close every window and run the command again?20:05
lolmaster142hello?20:07
aguitelgenii, any tips about using propietaries drivers ?20:07
cheesegrinderruns Chromium but tells me it's not my default browser20:08
brainwashcheesegrinder: or does it only fall back to another browser on relog/reboot?20:08
brainwashcheesegrinder: after relog/reboot I mean20:08
cheesegrinderopens Choose Preferred Application window20:08
David-Acheesegrinder: maybe chromium IS the default browser but chromium itself just don't think so (it is chromium that shows that nag message)20:09
brainwashevery time you open the window? that's strange20:09
cheesegrinderexo-open --launch WebBrowser command opens the Choose Preferred Application dialog20:10
geniiaguitel: If you must use them, try to install from official repositories of Ubuntu/Xubuntu and not from the binaries on manufacturers website. I mostly use nvidia. So for that I have to have installed beforehand build-essential linux-headers-generic dkms and linux-source packages20:10
aguitelgenii, ok thanks20:10
geniiaguitel: dkms system usually rebuilds your driver every time kernel changes20:10
aguitelgenii, i know20:11
brainwashcheesegrinder: check the actual config file, ~/.config/xfce4/helpers.rc20:12
brainwashmaybe there is something wrong with the read/write permissions20:13
cheesegrinderyeah. i'm also noticing that i can't su to root20:14
cheesegrinderi guess i don't know my root password?20:14
bazhangthere is not one enabled20:14
bazhangand dont20:14
bazhanguse sudo, or sudo -i for a root shell20:14
cheesegrinderok cool20:16
cheesegrinderneeded to edit that /etc/systemd/logind.conf file for my lid20:16
cheesegrinderbrainwash, how do i find helpers.rc ?20:16
cheesegrinderexo-open --launch WebBrowser20:17
cheesegrinderhmm. it seems to work now. i just tell chromium to not ask me again20:18
brainwashhopefully it will stay like this20:19
cheesegrinderyeah20:19
cheesegrinderi'm going to reboot and see if that logind.conf works20:19
cheesegrindereverything seems to be working now20:23
ultim8how can i install dosbox games in xubuntu?20:27
bazhang!crosspost | ultim820:29
ubottuultim8: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support.20:29
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nantoumy os doesnt give me a notification to upgrade to 13.10 I have reloaded sources twice, is anything wrong?21:47
David-Anantou: in system>software sources>updates, is setting "show new dist release" set to "normal releases" or "long term support only"?21:51
nantounew releases option is activated21:52
nantouno .long terms21:52
AzelphurHmm, my laptop is on 13.04 and I'm trying to upgrade it to 13.10. However the option does not appear in update-manager, suggestions?21:59
ultim8Hi guys. I wanna learn c from scratch, how can i do it in linux? some programs?22:08
brainwashultim8: this isn't the right channel for such a question, try #xubuntu-offtopic22:12
xubuntu069i selected drive encryption during the install however now when the computer boots up the usb keyboard is not loaded/on/whatever you want to say to decrypt the drive, any tips22:22
brainwashxubuntu069: bug 124150522:23
ubottubug 1241505 in linux (openSUSE) "USB keyboard does not work after grub, and until after encrypted root volume is unlocked" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124150522:23
xubuntu069thanks tons, i've been looking but couldnt find a thread on it22:24
brainwashreally strange one, sadly not fixed before release =S22:25
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ddssssound icon is grayed out after 13.10 update.22:43
ddsssany suggestions on what might be causing it?22:43
cheesegrinderddsss, it's a known issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/120820422:46
ubottuUbuntu bug 1208204 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin" [High,Triaged]22:46
ddsssdaaaaaammmmmmmnnnnnnnnn22:46
cheesegrinderyeah. just read the article. there's a temporary workaround22:48
ddsssi guess this is temp workaround: http://askubuntu.com/questions/360806/volume-indicator-issue-after-xubuntu-13-10-upgrade22:48
ddsssgonna restart and test.22:48
ddsssthanks22:48
ddssscheesegrinder, works. thanks.22:57
ddsssI hope they'll patch it upstream though.22:58
cheesegrinderno worries. glad it worked23:02
xubuntu561hate to be a bother but can you give me the bug number for the usb keyboard decrypt problem again23:23
David-Axubuntu561: 65 minutes ago <brainwash> xubuntu069: bug 124150523:28
ubottubug 1241505 in linux (openSUSE) "USB keyboard does not work after grub, and until after encrypted root volume is unlocked" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124150523:28
xubuntu561thanks, had to restart and forgot to write it down or mark it23:29
David-Anp23:29
TheBoydI need some help getting xubuntu 13.10 installed on a MBP23:50

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