[00:17] I'm hoping someone can help me.... I just updated to xubuntu 13.10 everything seemed fine until I turned off the computer, turned it back on and not my desktop area is just a grey void... no background no icons for home or trash no nothing! [00:19] anyone have an idea? [00:41] anyone home? [00:43] anyone? [00:49] hello [00:54] xubuntu870: Howdy, you have a question? [00:55] Ah, I see. I'd say start by checking the logs, .xsession, .cache/upstart/startxfce4 check if the xfdesktop is running, and better yet, delete ~/.cache/sessions and relogin. [00:57] hi yes I do [00:57] I updated to 13.10 xubuntu today [00:57] now my desktop is gone [00:58] I have the panels at the top and bottom of the screen but my wallpaper and desktop icons have been replaced with a grey void [00:58] hoping someone smarter than I has an idea how to fix it [02:02] hello, I am trying to use the xfce4-terminal with vim [02:03] and for some reason the terminal is not piping the clipboard into vim correctly [02:03] with most terminals you can access the clipboard in vim using the "* or "+ registers [02:04] ive really been enjoying terminator [02:04] but for some reason the xfce terminal is not piping into the unnamed registers correctly [02:04] !info terminator [02:04] terminator (source: terminator): multiple GNOME terminals in one window. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.97-1ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 335 kB, installed size 2048 kB [02:04] has anyone else experienced this [02:16] I have a thinkpad t520 with intel wireless. Ever since I installed 13.04 the wireless routinely dies every 30-40 minutes. If I enable/disable wireless I get it back. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6260992/ [02:42] puff: are you up to date with upgrade? have you tried 13.10? 13.04 only has a few more months of support, so, if 13.10 "just works",, i would just go with it [02:42] puff: you can try "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" [02:56] holstein: Drat, 13.4 isn't an LTS? [02:56] !12.04 [02:56] Xubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the current !LTS release of Xubuntu. Download at http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu Release notes at http://xubuntu.org/news/12-04-release/ [02:56] holstein: I guess I might as well upgrade to 13.10 then. [02:57] puff: 14.04 will (should) be [02:57] holstein: Yeah, I was on 12.04 for the longest time. [02:57] holstein: I hate the upgrade treadmill. [02:57] I have two major problems I'm trying to solve a) wifi dying constantly and b) getting my displayport or the dock's DVI out to work [02:58] b) isn't really a problem, except in so far as it's keeping me from using my oculus rift :-( [02:58] I am having the wifi problem to [02:58] Hm, apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade are done. [02:59] holstein: It's been yeeeears since I've done a dist-upgrade. Usually I've ended up hosing my system and had to reinstall. Guess I need to reboot now? [03:00] puff: i would, at some point, rule out faulty hardware [03:00] falken: For me, it just stops working, and then I go to the network-manager dropdown and my AP doesn't show up. If I bounce the network (disable and then enable) the AP shows up again, I get a connection, everything starts working again. [03:00] holstein: It just started happening when I moved up. [03:00] holstein: I had some wifi issues with 12.04, but not nearly as bad as this. [03:01] puff: I got the same problem what adapter are you using? [03:01] puff: if it were me, i would load up an operating system that supports the hardware officially and test a driver that is supplied by the vendor, and rule out (definitively) hardware isues [03:02] falken: thinkpad t520 with intel centrino wireless N. [03:02] puff: then, you can move on to other options, like, for me, these days hardware is just too affordable to sit around with linux not working on it [03:02] i just take the chips out and replace them with ones that work well in linux [03:02] holstein: Good point, but that'd mean I'd have to dig up a windows install CD somewhere. [03:02] holstein: Yeah, but this is a thinkpad. [03:03] I have used this adapter on many distros no problem [03:03] holstein: Not as easy to just swap the wireless out. [03:03] puff: you dont have to, but otherwise, you are assuming, and potentially wasting time troubleshooting a software issues [03:03] holstein: Yeah,it's worth checking. [03:03] holstein: What's really annoying is, I have the thinkpad windows recovery disks, but they just take over the entire hard drive. No way to specify which partition,e tc. [03:03] puff: you can disable and plug a USB.. you *can* replace, if you want.. but again, you dont have to.. i took my EEE apart and swapped the broadcom for something "better" [03:04] holstein: The intel was *supposed* to be the better :-( [03:04] puff: image with clonezilla.. or, another hard drive [03:04] holstein: I asked on the linux-thinkpad mailing list, everybody said stick with intel wireless. [03:04] holstein: Yeah. Working on that. [03:05] Okay, dist-upgraded an rebooted. [03:05] puff: i use an alfa AWUS036H great adapter for linux. never had this problem before [03:05] puff: the "think-pad mailing list" officially support linux? [03:06] holstein: the linux-thinkpad mailing list, for thinkpad owners who run linux. [03:06] still, they either officially support it, or not [03:06] if not, then, you really arent going to get any "better" information [03:07] holstein: In theory ubuntu is "certified" for thinkpad, but there appears to be no thinkpad-specific version of ubuntu. [03:07] puff: that and a dollar gets you what? [03:07] http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/make/Lenovo/ [03:07] Hi, if I set an autologin user for lightdm; when I start the service will the user be logged in, or will the user only be logged in on boot? [03:07] holstein: Not even a cup of coffee, these days. [03:08] holstein: Hm, dist-upgrade didn't seem to work, apt sources are still raring. [03:09] puff: the few i click on from that list suggest, as i did, the 12.04 LTS version [03:10] puff: thats not a dist upgrade [03:10] holstein: Can you clarify that comment? [03:10] puff: thats just to upgrade the packages in 13.04 so you can test with the upgraded firmware and kernel packages which could potentially "fix" the support for your wifi [03:10] Ah. [03:10] puff: you did reboot thouth, correct? [03:11] Yeah. [03:12] i would just use it, and see if its better.. then i would first connect to an access point with no encryption and test, then i would try and test with windows to make certain the hardware is not broken.. then i would go back to 12.04, or up to 13.10, testing both live before changing my hard drive [03:13] Yeah. [03:13] What are the odds that 13.10 will get my DisplayPort or DVI working? [03:13] Because if there's a chance, I'll upgrade now. [03:14] puff: try it live.. the intel stuff should be baked in the kernel and able to test live [03:14] Yeah, I guess I could download and burn a live CD. [03:16] or usb.. or an android phone with droid drive.. or whatever works [03:18] droid drive? [03:20] holstein: What's droid drive? Nothing comes up on google (or on google play) [03:23] puff: http://softwarebakery.com/projects/drivedroid [03:26] holstein: Neat, so drivedroid basically lets you boot your PC off a virtual USB drive on your phone? [03:28] puff: i use it do do what you mentioned you want to do above, without buring a cd.. or needing to make a USB. or any bootable media. [03:32] Cool. [03:32] Thanks for the advice, I have to go AFK now. [03:52] I have an ASUS 1000HE netbook with xubuntu 13.04. Should I expect any loss in functionality if I upgrade to 13.10? [03:57] cheesegrinder: What are you worried about? [03:58] potentially losing wifi or other hardware driver support or something [03:58] cheesegrinder: The only blatant issue I know of is the volume icon not working. [04:00] I guess 14.04 is the next LTS release. I just didn't want to lose support for anything [04:00] cheesegrinder: Yes, it is. It's also been codenamed - Trusty Tahr. [04:01] !releasenotes [04:01] Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) release notes can be found here http://ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/13.10 [04:01] cheesegrinder: ^ [04:01] where is my "Source function library"? [04:01] thanks ubottu [04:05] thanks, guys. i'm upgrading now [04:59] Greetings Xubuntu gurus. Having recently given xubuntu-desktop a trial run, I've discovered it has a lot of the features of the old Gnome 2 that I like and runs a lot faster than Unity. What is the easiest way to remove Unity and the default "ubuntu-desktop" packages? I plan on using Synaptic and saving the markings in case I want to put it back later, but I'd like to slim the system down as much as possible and let Xubuntu [04:59] (XFCE) take over for the login screen/display manager and do most of the work. === MetalMan is now known as ElectricErger [05:01] http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexubuntu That's somewhat outdated now sadly, but generally you can remove most packages with unity in the name, but that doesn't quite cover it. [05:19] Hello a few long lines coming ... hoping to get some help with issue since I installed Xubuntu 13.10 today. I originally upgraded from 13.04 this morning to 13.10 using the upgrade tool, I had some odd effects such as it did something to my monitor that forced me to forcibly power cycle it to get it to even come back on (never happened before, but happened after upgrade reboot), and then my kernel was stuck at 3.8, so I just reins [05:20] I have an ATI Radeon HD 7870 (also tried an older HD Radeon 5770) graphics card, and the open source drivers don't have 3d hardware acceleration, so as usual I installed the fglrx package for the catalyst driver. On reboot, login screen was fine, but after logging in, my panels opened, my startup apps opened, my mouse cursor diasappeared, though I could get focus on panels by moving it. [05:20] Trying to open any menu produced no visible results, if I used a hotkey to open Application finder or the application launcher it closed as soon as I typed in it. Switching to a tty I purged out the fglrx packages and rebooted. All was operational again on the open drivers. Tried enabling the fglrx and updates at various times through the Software and Updates Additional Drivers tab, launched alone and through Synaptic all with the [05:21] Any advice on how to troubleshoot or resolve the issue outside of buying an Nvidia card? [05:23] I can't offer much help aside from recommending you look for patches for the existing binary driver for your card. In my case, 13.10 made the binary driver for my NVIDIA card not work and it required significant amounts of patching before it would install properly, and there are still some issues. It may take some time before updated binary drivers are released. [05:24] That was the odd thing, at least when I checked versions from 13.04 after the upgrade, it appeared to have the same catalyst version, but it may have updated once I installed from scratch, I will check [05:25] Maybe try to install from the AMD website, but I usually just end up with a nonfunctional display after that [05:30] If you're desperate for working 3D acceleration I'd go back to 13.04. since 13.10 was just released it's gonna take the graphics card manufacturers time to catch up. Trying to find a working driver at this time is a crapshoot. [05:37] Yeah, my desktop is just so slow now even with compositing off ... not even sure why I upgraded so fats, usually wait a solid 3 months to let these things get worked out first. [07:19] hola [07:19] hello [08:34] Buenos dias alguien habla español? [08:34] !es | dagomar [08:34] dagomar: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. [08:36] Gracias y perdor por las molestias [10:57] good day [10:57] i ahve a question regarding lightdm, how do i set lightdm to display my .face, with an encrypted home folder ? [11:09] .face? [11:21] hello (typing on android, excuse the slowness) [11:24] i just upgaded (x)ubuntu, and now it hangs on boot. i suspect it's the login manager as described in the first google hits. now i need to enter the shell somehow to reinstall it. === makimac|afk is now known as makimac- === makimac- is now known as makimac [11:27] it should be an option in the grub menu but i forgot the secret key to enter it. [11:27] sorry, reconnect. [11:27] try Shift [11:32] i just tried shift, doesn't seen to work :( [12:16] How do I narrow down the likely cause of black screen on logout of Xubuntu on 13.10, upgraded from 13.04. After logging out, no access to VT or power off button. Restart works but shutdown does not power off machine. Same issue experienced on 13.04. [12:23] ok, i got to the shell now. but "apt-get install --reinstall" for lightdm and xubuntu-desktop don't seen to help. any other ideas? [12:25] doesn't ubuntu have wayland now? maybe i habe a wayland issue… [12:37] Hello. I am using Xubuntu and cant find the volume. Is there something to install ? [12:39] bingo, sadly thats a know bug 1208204 [12:39] bug 1208204 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1208204 [12:40] bingo, see comment 41 [12:40] ty [12:40] from xubuntu.org? [12:40] oh [12:40] so the keyboard is only way to adjust volume ? [12:41] no, see comment 41 [12:43] you can also add a launcher for pavucontrol if you think that that workaround is not for you [12:43] sadly there is no better way of doing it because xfce panels are gtk2 and the indicators a re gtk3 [12:43] is 41 an abbreviation ? [12:44] ? [12:44] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1208204/comments/41 [12:44] Ubuntu bug 1208204 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin" [High,Triaged] [12:44] ty [12:44] the comment 41 [12:44] dont understand that but my keyboard volume is working [12:44] just using function f7 or f8 [12:45] better than nothing [12:45] bingo, then just add a launcher in your panel for the program pavucontrol [12:45] ill try to find it, ty [12:45] one other thing. I cant seem to empty trash [12:46] also, where can i find pavucontrol? [12:46] searching didnt find it [12:46] bingo, how you searched it? [12:47] press alt-f2 and type "pavucontrol" [12:47] application finder [12:47] k [12:47] yep found it, ty [12:47] how would i make a launcher? [12:48] on a panel do left-clic>panel >add new element >launcher [12:48] that will create a launcher at the bottom of the panel you selected [12:49] yes [12:49] then left clic it and go to propieties, clic the small + icon with the sheet, and in the "command" type "pavucontrol" [12:50] add it any name you want and any icon you wish [12:51] ty [12:51] then you just have an application launcher that will launch the sound configuration program [12:52] yep :) [12:52] it wont work as an indicator though, no scrolling over it or showing current songs or any like that, for that you need to follow comment 41 [12:52] if i may ask you a final thing, i cant seem to empty recycle [12:52] no no just volume is great [12:52] ok [12:53] mmm i dont know about that bingo sorry [12:53] are you sure you have permission to delete those files? are they own to you or to root? [12:54] they have locks [12:54] all i know [12:54] yes [12:54] they dont belong to you [12:54] ahh but thye should [12:54] i was from something i installed to home [12:54] then erased [12:54] did you upgraded from a preious install? [12:55] strange, if i highlighted them within trash i was able to delete [12:55] no [12:55] clean install [12:55] weird [12:55] looks like im set, thanks a bunch [12:55] does "file > empry trash can" works? [12:55] oh, alrgith [12:55] does no [12:56] now [12:56] interesting [12:56] are there any other tweaks to Xubuntu as far as how it looks that wont take resources ? [12:56] if you see that behaviour again please report it [12:56] i will [12:56] also cant seem to eject drives [12:56] bingo, there is ways of working on xfce that will make your life happier [12:56] like the duel boot drive etc.. [12:57] im sure [12:57] for example, press alt and clic-drag a window anyware to move it arround, press alt and left-clic to resize windows [12:58] ty === makimac_ is now known as makimac === Peter is now known as Guest19503 [13:56] Hi, peoples [13:56] I have some problems on my xubuntu 13.10 [13:58] after update 13.04 to 13.10 doesnt work settings in power supply menu [14:00] Hello [14:00] Bonjour ? [14:00] i choose "Do nothing" in action then close top notebook, but it goes to sleep mode ((( [14:00] hi [14:01] the sound greffon don't work on ubuntu 13.10 ? [14:01] Hi all, Всем привет Русских много? [14:02] Привет я русский [14:03] !ru [14:03] Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. [14:04] no no when i close my top of notebook it goes to sleep mode, but in power settings i set do nothing [14:04] Thx ;) [14:05] are there any derivatives based on xubuntu ? [14:05] Guest19503: bug 1222021 [14:05] bug 1222021 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Laptop sleeps when lid is closed, regardless of Power Manager Settings." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1222021 [14:05] oh thanks)) [14:07] but anybody know how repair it? [14:07] how can i check where is my dosbox program installed? i downloaded games and want to copy them to the dosbox directory. [14:08] Guest19503: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1180513/comments/6 [14:08] Ubuntu bug 1180513 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "lid close actions are ignored laptop always suspends" [High,Fix released] [14:08] Guest19503, can you try something? Edit /etc/systemd/logind.conf and add HandleLidSwitch=ignore to the bottom of the file? Reboot to test. [14:08] ToZ: :D [14:09] Hi brainwash [14:10] oh [14:10] but im beginner in linux(( [14:10] xfce4-power-manager needs to be aware of the logind sleep-on-lid trigger and inhibit it [14:11] ToZ: not sure if anyone will implement it anytime soon =S [14:11] thank you for help) [14:11] brainwash, is it? On this laptop, I was getting double suspends on lid close until I made that change. [14:12] ToZ: it's the default behavior of systemd/logind, but xfpm cannot prevent it as of now [14:13] ToZ: talking about a real fix, not a workaround by editing the conf file :) [14:13] brainwash, I see. [14:15] Hi. Can anyone tell me with what software can i watch this movie in xubuntu? [14:21] hello!anyone there ? [14:21] hi [14:21] nobody think to patch the problem of sound-indcator path ? [14:21] this just annoy 100% of xubuntu users ? [14:22] few that speak/read english + have some technical knowledge could resolve by themselves [14:22] http://askubuntu.com/questions/360806/volume-indicator-issue-after-xubuntu-13-10-upgrade [14:22] most people will think that linux doesn't work + too complex to be used ? [14:22] I fixed just like that [14:22] rhodium, I know [14:22] but most user won't understand why [14:22] ahh right [14:22] can I ask u sth [14:22] the bug report is 4 month old [14:23] the solution is given in the bug report :( [14:23] ? [14:23] and nobody changed just the path line !!! [14:23] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1208204 [14:23] Ubuntu bug 1208204 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin" [High,Triaged] [14:23] I can only boot xubuntu with acpi=off but this disables wireless [14:24] and on xubuntu release note : known bug, but still no correction :( [14:24] one line to change [14:24] so I have to restart again .If I change it to grub.conf I loose wireless permanently ? [14:24] do u think u can help me out ? [14:24] a reconfigure + remove the wrong x86_64-linux-gnu should not be so hard to fix in package ??? [14:25] ultim8, Parole. You may need to have xubuntu-restricted-extras installed. [14:25] tell the maintainer of "indicator-sound" to patch it.. this is not a xubuntu-specific package [14:25] this is really the main problem of ubuntu, nobody take care of bugreports, since ~4 or more years I use ubuntu :( [14:25] rhodium, at that level the configuration issue is the same as in mainbuntu so you might have better help at #ubuntu because theres more people there [14:25] bye [14:26] yeah I know but I thought someone here knew a solution [14:26] rhodium, probably [14:26] you might have to wait a time then [14:26] ok then.thanks [14:29] ToZ, i have parole. How to play the movie? parole don't see the files as supported ones. It's 00014.m2ts [14:29] *.m2ts files [14:34] ultim8, I think you will need to either install vlc to play the m2ts file or convert it into a format that parole can recognize [14:36] Toz. i got vlc.. it plays the file.. the problem it's around 30 files,,and the vlc plays 1 file i choose and then stops. so i think it's strange to play 1 by1. [14:38] ultim8, try creating a playlist in vlc that includes all 30 files, then play the playlist. === xtriz is now known as Guest632 === Guest632 is now known as xtriz_ [15:25] is there ever going to be automatic power management in the oss ati driver? [15:54] Hi Everyone, How can I save my installed apps for reinstallation (not just a list). I cleaned up apt cache so aptoncd not going to work. [15:56] You could always make the distro just like you want it, then make a new installer-dvd out of it, with all settings+software installed [15:57] wait, they're not actually open on saturdays? [15:57] woops, wrong chan [16:29] i need help [16:29] i need help about synaptic [16:36] problems with synaptic [16:39] hello again [16:40] i need help with synaptic [16:40] i need help with synaptic on xubuntu 13.10 [16:41] !details | ran_ [16:41] ran_: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." [16:42] there is a strange broblem that when onboard (virtual keyboard) is loaded, synaptic crushes. [16:43] and if onboard not loaded everything is fine. [16:45] i have tried flurance (another virtual keyboard) and synaptic crushed again when is loaded. [16:46] so there is a problem with synaptic and virtual keyboards. [16:50] i cant get into graphical login, but i have a root shell now. i tried switching from lightdm to kdm but no noticabke difference. [16:50] does upgrading xubuntu automatically switch to wayland? [16:51] wayland seems to be installed but i don't remember unstalling it. [16:56] since the problem seems to be independen of the display manager, i suspect it's somthing to do with wayland, x or graphics drivers. but i don't know how to narrow it down further. [16:56] xfce wont work on wayland [16:56] not even by far [16:56] you need X [16:56] sofias, what problem is that you are having? [16:57] Maybe that is causing some of my issues [16:57] I have a buncvh of Wayland libs installed now after fresh install of 13.10 [16:59] ok, so i guess there was no change to wayland during the upgrade… isn't there some kind of failsave x with ugly graphics? === xtriz_ is now known as xtriz [17:01] sofias, i assume there is, but you are not using xubuntu if you have wayland, i don't even think kubuntu is shipping wayland already [17:01] i could really need that to make backups of my ~ and an xubuntu-thumbdrive. then i could simply reinstall xubuntu… [17:02] yeah, the kubuntu release notes say: We are sticking with the X.org graphics [17:03] for this release [17:03] so i have no idea why would you have it [17:03] cubegrid: thx [17:03] !tab | sofias [17:03] sofias: You can use your key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. [17:04] i'm not sure if i have it, i have 3 libwayland packages installed [17:07] hello, i have a plantronics headset and its a wireless one, i have buttons on it to turn the volume up and down but whenever i use them they only affect the default sound device or something which is my speakers, how do i make them work with my headset? [17:07] i turned off all that built in stuff and it didn't help [17:08] if i try to uninstall it it warns that libgtk, kde-window-manager and some mesa things depend on it… [17:09] so i guess it's not wayland itself… [17:10] CubeGrid: tab autocompletion does'nt work under yaaic (android irc client) [17:18] sofias, then you keep writing my name wrong [17:18] GridCube: oops, sorry ^^ [17:18] sofias, try to do "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" [17:19] second log in into your home account and rmove the files named .Xauthority and .ICEauthority [17:19] use lightdm to log in [17:23] GridCube: xubuntu-desktop is already installed, i also tried --reinstall already. i tried to soitch to my normal user with su, but it wont decrypt my home. [17:25] GridCube: the command in readme.txt about about decrypting home does't work either [17:26] oh [17:26] encryption [17:27] thats something i know absolutely nothing about [17:28] GridCube: lightdm won't show up, when it is supposed to start the screen freezes and it doesn't seem to react to anything except the power button (which shuts it down). [17:30] GridCube: it souldn't have to do with anything in my home, because it happens before login [17:36] sofias, i do not know [17:46] Hola.... [17:46] alguien habla español? [17:46] !es | xubuntu912 :) hola [17:46] xubuntu912 :) hola: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. === S-USA is now known as SonikkuAmerica [18:44] why xubuntu run slowly ? [18:45] aguitel: Because of a millions possible things. [18:45] !details | aguitel [18:45] aguitel: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." [18:47] bekks, sorry but more apps open slowly ,firefox libreoffice [18:47] aguitel: which hardware do you have? [18:48] amd64 with 2 gb of ram [18:49] nvidia-304 i am using [18:49] GeForce 7200 GS / 7300 SE [18:49] Athlon64 [18:50] 7200 GS oO [18:50] That's... REALLY old :X [18:50] Athlon64 isnt that fast anymore, a GS7200 is a lowend graphics adapter not that old, and 2GB RAM are enough. [18:50] ubuntu 10.04 was the better for this old pc [18:51] aguitel: then use 12.04 [18:51] bekks, 7200 gs is really old [18:51] bekks, why 12.04 [18:51] legg1_: It isnt. I had one of them. [18:51] aguitel: Because it is a LTS version. [18:52] not reason [18:52] aguitel: your choice. [18:52] bekks: 2007, it's pretty old ^ [18:52] if you say:12.04 is more faster than 13.10 .... [18:52] legg1_: 6 years. Thats not "very old". The Athlon64 is much older. [18:54] legg1_, No, Nvidia Riva TNT is really old. :) [18:55] Myeah, but still :P [18:55] Geforce 7 is less than 10 years old. [18:55] Voodoo 1! [18:55] lol 3dfx! [18:55] Old? Anyone use a Matrox Diamond? [18:55] The good ol' days before they went bankrupt. [18:55] Kids, do you still know what a Tseng graphics adapter was? :) [18:56] Tseng? [18:56] Is that older than Hercules? [18:56] Yeah. Or Cirrus. [18:56] Ah, Cirrus. [18:57] don't forget Oak Technoligies and Trident. [18:57] Trident \o/ ISA and VLB :) [18:57] lol [18:57] SIS Trio 3D AGP , my first 3d-card with 4mb ram! [18:57] was sick [18:57] s/was/is/ [18:57] SIS still _is_ ... [18:59] that card in particular, not the chip manufacturer [18:59] Oh gosh... SIS has gone the way of VIA. [19:01] speaking of graphics: i may have fixed my problem. :D [19:03] "startx 2> x.log" revealed that fglrx was missing [19:03] packet was in fact not installed. installing now. [19:08] hi there all user's of Gnu_linux,just passing by (:-)) to wish you a nice weekend [19:10] so, i upgraded to 13.10 last night on my ASUS eee 1000HE netbook. I'm experiencing an issue where my computer now falls to suspend/hibernate mode when I close the lid, regardless of what my power/screensaver settings are [19:11] fuck yeah, it works :D [19:11] praise the driver gods [19:11] is there a way to just disable suspend/hibernate entirely on my machine? [19:20] i'm even trying the settings manager with no luck :\ [19:21] settings editor, rather [19:39] what apps is better to remove to improve xubuntu? [19:43] when i run :sudo update-grub . it take long time to finish ,why ? [19:48] aguitel: There can be various reasons. How many bootable devices and their speeds, how many kernels you have installed, and if you run many different OS then os-prober needs to find them all [19:49] genii, i have 2 hd and 2 os [19:50] aguitel: My best guess then is you have a bunch of old kernels on the Xubuntu that were not removed, and likely your hard drives are not that fast. [19:51] genii, i remove old kernels [19:52] genii, see that :http://bpaste.net/show/ocfSudlYbYctdTsBmwlB/ [19:55] So then by process of elimination, probably slow HD. Possibly also when you are running the command not much memory and it uses swap [19:57] sorry about that. closing the lid turns off all of my hardware including wifi [19:58]