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| BluesKaj | "morning folks | 12:38 |
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| penguin42 | " hey | 12:52 |
| bjsnider | is anyone running xchat-gnome in unity? | 18:03 |
| penguin42 | so +1 is Trusty? Trusty what? | 18:46 |
| IdleOne | !trusty | 18:46 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) will be the 20th release of Ubuntu. See the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1295 for more info. | 18:46 |
| penguin42 | well, at least Tahr is easy to type as well | 18:47 |
| penguin42 | hmm, I'd never heard of a Tahr | 18:49 |
| BluesKaj | one wouldn't expect anyone to have heard of them , some obscure animal that hides out in the Himalayas , who knew ? :) | 18:55 |
| * penguin42 wonders if they're tasty | 18:55 | |
| wilee-nilee | everything is better in a curry | 18:56 |
| penguin42 | I didn't know about the ubuntu-distro-info command for getting lists of versions | 18:58 |
| BluesKaj | some lil furry in a curry , not my taste' | 18:58 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: The Tahr looks more substantial | 18:59 |
| penguin42 | not that I curry | 18:59 |
| BluesKaj | a rodent , penguin42 ? | 19:00 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: No, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tahr | 19:00 |
| penguin42 | ah yeh, it's a goat | 19:01 |
| BluesKaj | never eaten goat | 19:02 |
| penguin42 | me neither, but I believe it's not uncommon | 19:02 |
| BluesKaj | and I'm not a venison fan either | 19:02 |
| BluesKaj | tasted rabbit once , bit it was a domestic white species , it was ok , all dressed up like chicken with lots of garlic | 19:04 |
| BluesKaj | everyone was oohing and awing about how good it was ...the taste went right past me | 19:06 |
| alkisg | Hi, before trusty alpha1, how can I try it? Install 13.10 and change sources.list? | 19:07 |
| * alkisg can't find any daily builds... | 19:07 | |
| penguin42 | bit eager aren't you? | 19:08 |
| alkisg | As a dev, not as a user... :) | 19:08 |
| penguin42 | does do-release-upgrade -d do the trick yet? | 19:09 |
| alkisg | No idea, I'm on 12.04 currently, looking for which CD to download for trusty | 19:12 |
| penguin42 | alkisg: I think if you really want bleeding then install saucy and try a do-release-upgrade -d | 19:14 |
| alkisg | Ty, will do | 19:14 |
| penguin42 | alkisg: But I'm not sure if that's ready yet | 19:14 |
| IdleOne | toolchian doesn't usually get uploaded until right after UDS | 19:18 |
| IdleOne | at this point changing the sources.list would do it, but there is nothing in the repos to upgrade to. | 19:19 |
| IdleOne | All this is at your own risk of course | 19:19 |
| alkisg | Ah, so that's the "Toolchain Uploaded" step in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule .... thanks! | 19:20 |
| IdleOne | right | 19:21 |
| BluesKaj | there's no point doing the release u-upgrade -d | 19:22 |
| BluesKaj | err release-upgarde | 19:22 |
| BluesKaj | either :) | 19:22 |
| IdleOne | alkisg: I feel I should give you another warning. You should do this on a machine/partition you don't need to be 100% | 19:22 |
| BluesKaj | gotta change the sources list a this point and update and upgrade | 19:23 |
| alkisg | IdleOne: I was thinking about installing it to a dedicated partition that I have for that, but then I remembered the issue with the bricked intel NICs, some filesystem corruptions etc so I'll probably do it in a VM for now... | 19:26 |
| IdleOne | vm would be a safe place to play in | 19:26 |
| penguin42 | yeh, do release-upgrade -d doesn't work yet | 19:28 |
| alkisg | Another question, is BTRFS ready for non-mission-critical systems, or is it too early for it? /me could really use its snapshotting features... | 19:30 |
| penguin42 | alkisg: I've got btrfs on an opensuse system, it's not doing badly just on my basic opensuse install - it does have one or two oddities | 19:30 |
| alkisg | penguin42: at some point I was reading about fsck missing, is that still the case? | 19:31 |
| penguin42 | alkisg: I don't think so but haven't needed it - the problem I hit is the default setting has some limit on the number of hardlinks somewhere that broke imagemagick, there is an option to fix it though | 19:32 |
| alkisg | Thanks - I think there are only a few hardlinks on my usual ubuntu installation, so I don't think I'll hit that issue | 19:33 |
| alkisg | As long as compression + snapshots are working, I don't mind about fsck too much either | 19:33 |
| penguin42 | it was really more of an example of stuff that's not quite there yet | 19:33 |
| * penguin42 wonders why virt-manager/qemu gives this new vm a 2360x1770 virtual display - a little big | 19:35 | |
| penguin42 | for my 1920x1080 monitor | 19:35 |
| * alkisg prefers -vga vmware, gives a better default resolution | 19:35 | |
| penguin42 | yeh it seems to have defaulted to vmvga, I normally use spice | 19:36 |
| BluesKaj | sudo sed -i 's/saucy/trusty/' /etc/apt/sources.list , will update the sourec.list to trust tahr , but like IdleOne mentioned , there isn't much there to upgrade to. | 19:40 |
| BluesKaj | er trusty tahr | 19:40 |
| alkisg | Meh the "can't type english if I select the greek language" issue I reported 2 years ago is still there... :( | 19:45 |
| bekks | alkisg: Hmm, what do you expect "selecting a language with a totally different charset" to do instead? | 19:46 |
| alkisg | bekks: it broke with lightdm, it used to work fine from hoary to lucid | 19:47 |
| penguin42 | bekks: Totally different is probably over expressing it for Greek? | 19:47 |
| alkisg | Greeks use alt+shift to switch between greek/english | 19:47 |
| alkisg | Otherwise we can't even surf | 19:47 |
| alkisg | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1051288 | 19:51 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1051288 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "LightDM assumes there's only ONE system default layout" [High,Confirmed] | 19:51 |
| alkisg | ...and 3-4 similar bugs a year before that one... | 19:51 |
| bekks | penguin42: Greek doesnt use the same character set as english - so it is "totally different", I think :) | 19:56 |
| alkisg | Isn't Unity really really slow on VMs? I open the dash, type something, and have to wait for seconds before I see what I typed... | 19:58 |
| alkisg | Would enabling 3d acceleration in vbox help? | 19:58 |
| bekks | Installing the guest additions will help | 20:00 |
| penguin42 | alkisg: In KVM it's reasonably responsive - not speedy, but not that slow | 20:25 |
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