=== sam113101_afk is now known as sam113101 === sam113101 is now known as sam113101_afk === sam113101_afk is now known as sam113101 === sam113101 is now known as sam113101_afk === sam113101_afk is now known as sam113101 === sam113101 is now known as sam113101_afk === sam113101_afk is now known as sam113101 [12:38] "morning folks [12:52] " hey [18:03] is anyone running xchat-gnome in unity? [18:46] so +1 is Trusty? Trusty what? [18:46] !trusty [18:46] Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) will be the 20th release of Ubuntu. See the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1295 for more info. [18:47] well, at least Tahr is easy to type as well [18:49] hmm, I'd never heard of a Tahr [18:55] one wouldn't expect anyone to have heard of them , some obscure animal that hides out in the Himalayas , who knew ? :) [18:55] * penguin42 wonders if they're tasty [18:56] everything is better in a curry [18:58] I didn't know about the ubuntu-distro-info command for getting lists of versions [18:58] some lil furry in a curry , not my taste' [18:59] BluesKaj: The Tahr looks more substantial [18:59] not that I curry [19:00] a rodent , penguin42 ? [19:00] BluesKaj: No, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tahr [19:01] ah yeh, it's a goat [19:02] never eaten goat [19:02] me neither, but I believe it's not uncommon [19:02] and I'm not a venison fan either [19:04] tasted rabbit once , bit it was a domestic white species , it was ok , all dressed up like chicken with lots of garlic [19:06] everyone was oohing and awing about how good it was ...the taste went right past me [19:07] Hi, before trusty alpha1, how can I try it? Install 13.10 and change sources.list? [19:07] * alkisg can't find any daily builds... [19:08] bit eager aren't you? [19:08] As a dev, not as a user... :) [19:09] does do-release-upgrade -d do the trick yet? [19:12] No idea, I'm on 12.04 currently, looking for which CD to download for trusty [19:14] alkisg: I think if you really want bleeding then install saucy and try a do-release-upgrade -d [19:14] Ty, will do [19:14] alkisg: But I'm not sure if that's ready yet [19:18] toolchian doesn't usually get uploaded until right after UDS [19:19] at this point changing the sources.list would do it, but there is nothing in the repos to upgrade to. [19:19] All this is at your own risk of course [19:20] Ah, so that's the "Toolchain Uploaded" step in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule .... thanks! [19:21] right [19:22] there's no point doing the release u-upgrade -d [19:22] err release-upgarde [19:22] either :) [19:22] alkisg: I feel I should give you another warning. You should do this on a machine/partition you don't need to be 100% [19:23] gotta change the sources list a this point and update and upgrade [19:26] IdleOne: I was thinking about installing it to a dedicated partition that I have for that, but then I remembered the issue with the bricked intel NICs, some filesystem corruptions etc so I'll probably do it in a VM for now... [19:26] vm would be a safe place to play in [19:28] yeh, do release-upgrade -d doesn't work yet [19:30] Another question, is BTRFS ready for non-mission-critical systems, or is it too early for it? /me could really use its snapshotting features... [19:30] alkisg: I've got btrfs on an opensuse system, it's not doing badly just on my basic opensuse install - it does have one or two oddities [19:31] penguin42: at some point I was reading about fsck missing, is that still the case? [19:32] alkisg: I don't think so but haven't needed it - the problem I hit is the default setting has some limit on the number of hardlinks somewhere that broke imagemagick, there is an option to fix it though [19:33] Thanks - I think there are only a few hardlinks on my usual ubuntu installation, so I don't think I'll hit that issue [19:33] As long as compression + snapshots are working, I don't mind about fsck too much either [19:33] it was really more of an example of stuff that's not quite there yet [19:35] * penguin42 wonders why virt-manager/qemu gives this new vm a 2360x1770 virtual display - a little big [19:35] for my 1920x1080 monitor [19:35] * alkisg prefers -vga vmware, gives a better default resolution [19:36] yeh it seems to have defaulted to vmvga, I normally use spice [19:40] sudo sed -i 's/saucy/trusty/' /etc/apt/sources.list , will update the sourec.list to trust tahr , but like IdleOne mentioned , there isn't much there to upgrade to. [19:40] er trusty tahr [19:45] Meh the "can't type english if I select the greek language" issue I reported 2 years ago is still there... :( [19:46] alkisg: Hmm, what do you expect "selecting a language with a totally different charset" to do instead? [19:47] bekks: it broke with lightdm, it used to work fine from hoary to lucid [19:47] bekks: Totally different is probably over expressing it for Greek? [19:47] Greeks use alt+shift to switch between greek/english [19:47] Otherwise we can't even surf [19:51] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1051288 [19:51] Ubuntu bug 1051288 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "LightDM assumes there's only ONE system default layout" [High,Confirmed] [19:51] ...and 3-4 similar bugs a year before that one... [19:56] penguin42: Greek doesnt use the same character set as english - so it is "totally different", I think :) [19:58] Isn't Unity really really slow on VMs? I open the dash, type something, and have to wait for seconds before I see what I typed... [19:58] Would enabling 3d acceleration in vbox help? [20:00] Installing the guest additions will help [20:25] alkisg: In KVM it's reasonably responsive - not speedy, but not that slow === k1l_ is now known as k1l