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ronjhello again. Got no answer yet to my "Half of keyboard shortcuts don't do anything" problem on #gnome-shell, but one friend of mine just upgraded and has the problem too.00:06
bjsniderproblem is this is not a good time to be asking questions in there00:39
bjsniderweather extension now updated and working with 3.1000:48
bjsniderlooked into totem 3.10.1 a bit02:21
bjsniderit requires a new totem-pl-parser, which in turn requires a new libsoup. the latter is already built in debian, and builds fine here too, so no big deal02:21
bjsniderbut pl-parser still has a ftbfs due to a gensymbols error02:22
bjsniderand even if that wasn't the case i don't know if that's enough to get totem past the configure stage02:22
bjsnideri did refresh the patches for it02:22
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lain_hi08:37
rubiotelhola...¿algien que hable español?09:29
trolohi09:47
trolohas anyone problems with online accounts?09:48
wonderinghello..10:54
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octanehey, somebody can tell me what is the live session user password? I want to try the gnome classic session14:17
zero1hello all, I recently installed ubuntu-gnome 13.04, yet when I run screenfetch it lists my DE as Unity 7.0.0 (I also had to turn off amazon search, etc) is this normal or did I somehow end up with an ubuntu installation from an ubuntu-gnome iso?14:30
phillwnadrimajstor: you about?18:42
nadrimajstorphillw: I'm really bad at multitasking... Please, lead me in to you quiestion.18:44
phillwnadrimajstor: :) is this you? https://launchpad.net/~ipejic18:44
nadrimajstorphillw: correct... that is me :)18:45
phillwI'm just updating our mirror areas on the wiki and wish to credit you with your mirror for us :)18:45
phillwnadrimajstor: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu#Mirror_Sites Thanks for being a mirror :)18:49
nadrimajstorphillw: That is as at least I can do... I'll do more when I find where I do fit the best... For now I'm trying not to be annoying :)18:49
phillwmirroring is always a great way to help. Doesn't take much time to maintain, but does make a difference to the smaller teams who do not have as many torrent seeders (more so for lubuntu as we have so many versions!)18:51
nadrimajstorphillw: Could you make one small change?18:51
phillwnadrimajstor: I can, or you can edit any wiki page!18:52
nadrimajstorphillw: set url to http://ubuntu-cdimage.nadrimajstor.com/lubuntu/releases/saucy/release/18:52
nadrimajstorphillw: I can edit any page... B-)18:53
phillwnadrimajstor: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu#Mirror_Sites that okay for you?18:53
nadrimajstorphillw: great work...18:54
phillwfeel free to poke me for wiki stuff. It's not actually scary!18:54
nadrimajstorphillw: s1 sub-domain might change... however I will make sure that ubuntu-cdimage sub-domain is always correct.18:56
phillwnadrimajstor: okies... same as I hold all mine under http://phillw.net/isos/ that way, we all know the root for them :)18:57
nadrimajstorphillw: and when you want to move them to another server, you have to do http redirect?18:59
phillwnadrimajstor: as my dedi server has been around for a while, I do not expect ever to lose my domain name. Should that happen, I'll just alter the DNS records :)19:00
phillwI was offered a much cheaper deal; but it would have meant losing my 10 ipV4 addresses which other teams use. It took only a few seconds to decide against that.19:02
phillw(I did have to check with my sponsor; and their decision was also made in seconds :) )19:03
nadrimajstorphillw: Hetzner.de have a biding system for older unused dedicated servers... When a price droped to 20EUR/month I could not resist to buy one. :D19:04
nadrimajstorphillw: I've purchased domain just try bitcoin and privacy policy of some Island ISP :D19:08
phillwthat's cheaper than mine, but I could only switch to cheaper if I surrendered all of my ipV4's.19:08
phillwthey are now worth a lot more than what I paid for:)19:08
nadrimajstorphillw: Well... In the package I got only one IPv4 address... for every additional one I will have to pay 1.5EUR/per IP19:09
phillwthat's the going rate, mine are 1GBP / month from two split RIPE blocks I managed to get before they were all gone. I wanted a 3rd block, but missed out.19:10
nadrimajstorphillw: nice part was, IPv6 block is included in to the price... And to my surprise, third of the torrnet traffic is v6...19:14
phillwI have thousands of ipv6 :) them pesky ipv4's are getting harder to find :D19:17
phillwnadrimajstor: to say yes to the invite!19:18
phillw*do say yes*19:18
shayhi.19:56
shaygnome 3.8 and xkb are wrecking havoc on my bilingual keyboard. Can anybody help?19:57
ronjshay, hi. I do customize my QWERTY xkb keyboard layout for a few French characters and run 3.8 just fine so maybe I can help, go ahead20:00
ronjBTW, following up on my "Shell 3.10 from gnome3-next PPA causes system keyboard shortcuts to partially fail": https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1242423 . Can anyone reproduce this?20:01
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1242423 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Shell 3.10 from gnome3-next PPA causes system keyboard shortcuts to partially fail" [Undecided,Confirmed]20:01
shayronj, thanks.20:01
shayI'm using bilingual us,il keyboard, which I (used to) switch with alt+shift20:01
shay'setxkbmap -option grp:alt_shift_toggle "us,il"' did the trick20:02
shaybut in Ubuntu Gnome 13.10/Gnome 3.8, the change of keyboards is erratic. The only thing that does change for sure is the keyboard status indicator20:02
shaythe layout itself only sometimes. I can't figure out when it does (switching windows seem to help)20:02
shayswitching using the keys set in the keyboard settings work, but I can't set alt+shift there.20:03
shayand using setxkbmap or gnome-tweak-tool breaks as described.20:03
shayLooking at setxkbmap -print, it looks like it got reset -- the "+il" disappers from the xkb_symbols line20:04
shayideas?20:04
ronjouch, no20:07
ronjwhat prevents you from using keys settable in the keyboard settings panel?20:07
shayronj, you can't set alt+shift there20:09
shayand after 15+ years of alt+shift, I don't think I could get used to anything else :)20:09
shayI just don't know what process is changing xkb settings20:09
shayHmm.. every time I press alt+shift (after a manual setxkbmap) I find a line20:11
shayXKB: resue xkmfile /var/lib/xkb/server-somethingsomething in my /var/log/Xorg.0.log20:11
shaysolved it (I hope)20:19
shayremoved the input-sources from dconf. no indicator on screen, but keyboard seems to work20:20
shaycould live with that20:20
ronj:)20:27
ronjshay, glad to know I was a good rubber-duck for your problem :P http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2012/03/rubber-duck-problem-solving.html20:28
jstressmanany easy way to be able to browse for the wallpaper I want?20:32
jstressman(I'm not moving anything into different folders so the functionality lacking wallpaper chooser can find them.)20:33
shayronj, I don't have a rubber duck. Too old fashioned. I keep a small Cpt. Kirk doll at work.20:33
shaySo you're my Cpt. Kirk ;)20:33
bjsniderjstressman, just use nautilus, right-click set as wallpaper20:34
jstressmanbjsnider: *sigh* thanks. (I knew about that route, I was hoping there was something less counter-intuitive. You know, actually having a useful wallpaper selector instead of a worthless one that makes you use your file system browser instead.) :P20:37
jstressmanhrm... doesn't really work well anyway... sets it on 2 of my 3 monitors. :/20:37
jstressmanthird is still blank.20:37
jstressman(be nice to be able to set a single image to span all 3 as well...)20:38
jstressmanheh... when I go into overview mode, or whatever that's called... I can see it on the 3rd monitor then, but it disappears again when I go back to normal.20:38
bjsniderjstressman, you might want to bring these issues up on gimpnet #gnome-shell20:40
jstressmanbjsnider: okee doke. I'm much much happier with Ubuntu Gnome than with Unity, don't get me wrong. ;) Just still frustrated with some stuff. thanks for the tips.20:41
bjsnidergnome 3 is not a finished product at all. stuff is getting added and tweaked and so forth with every release20:41
jstressmannot sure how much of an improvement 3.10 is over 3.8 either.20:41
jstressmanso I don't know what's been fixed in the latest releases etc.20:42
bjsniderwhich one are you running?20:42
jstressmanI believe 3.8 comes with Ubuntu Gnome 13.10, correct?20:43
jstressmanI'm running stock 13.10 on here.20:43
bjsniderhaha20:43
bjsnider3.10 adds a feature to backgrounds where it looks for pictures on your system20:44
bjsniderexactly what you want20:44
bjsnideri just checked20:44
jstressman(my other install was actually an older Ubuntu that I tricked into not having any of Unity by installing a command line Ubuntu from netinst I think it was... then adding X, and then Gnome 3 from a PPA. Eventually it thought it was Ubuntu Gnome, but it was buggy because it wasn't really.)20:44
jstressmannice :P20:44
jstressmanI wonder how soon 3.10 will make it into an official release, or if I'd have to run a separate PPA or something?20:45
bjsniderseb128 suggested keeping 3.8 in 14.0420:45
bjsniderso it could be 12 months from now20:46
jstressman:'(20:46
jstressmanare they going to port in parts of 3.10, or just stick with 3.8 across the board?20:46
bjsniderstick to the safest option i suppose20:47
bjsniderthey're just talking about it nopw20:47
jstressmangotcha.20:47
cleptoHello! I'm interested in development. Can someone give me more info? Like what language do you use for a start21:04
ronjSkype refuses to output any sound since I upgraded to 13.10, am I the only one here? PulseAudio is selected in the options, I tried switching the input in the Sound settings applet, nothing helps. I'm about to ask #alsa or #pulseaudio, any other suggestion?21:33
jstressmandecided to live dangerously... upgrading everything to gnome 3.10 as we speak.21:37
ronjfyi a PulseAudio update breaks the current Skype 4.2 in some way but there is a workaround: http://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/No-sound-or-crappy-sound-on-Kubuntu-13-10/td-p/183965921:50
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