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[01:29] <bazhang> oh yeah
[01:55] <Pici> ..
[02:04] <h00k> yeah.
[03:29] <IdleOne> !away > sam113101_afk
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> hello, can i report a spam query
[03:32] <IdleOne> sure
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[03:32] <lotuspsychje> tnx
 they should probably just release 1 version every year on "Ubuntu Day" with a full 12 year support with every other year being LTS
[06:44] <bazhang> SLTS
[06:45] <bazhang> SuperLTS
[06:48] <IdleOne> ah, the windows support model
[06:49] <IdleOne> after 12 years they could add an extra SuperEliteLTS 8 years
[06:50] <bazhang> hehe
[07:19] <Vivek> I would like to join #ubuntu-beginners-dev, I am getting a message that the channel is full. Please help.
[07:45] <Vivek> ubottu: Ok,
[07:46] <Vivek> I am a reputed member of the FreeNode community, so allowing me in should not be a problem.
[07:47] <Flannel> Vivek: From what I can tell, that channel doesn't exist anymore, which is why you can't get it.
[07:48] <Flannel> (it technically does exist, but it's been set up to not allow anyone in, and to forward everyone who joins to #ubuntu)
[08:45] <Vivek> Flannel: So which is the channel for beginner Ubuntu Developers ?
[08:45] <Flannel> Vivek: probably #ubuntu-devel
[18:32] <ikonia> is someone trolling me elsewhere asking people to just start asking me random questions in #ubuntu or offer me fixes for problems I'm not having ?
[18:33] <IdleOne> I haven't seen anything
[18:33] <bazhang> shauntablet seems familiar
[18:33] <ikonia> seems like an honest mistake
[18:34] <bazhang> Ignore elitest does not
[18:34] <ikonia> no, it doesn't
[18:34] <bazhang> someone else said the very thing
[18:34] <bazhang> or perhaps same with new nick
[18:35] <ikonia> I'd not been followed, once the guy asking for help said "I assume you're not trying to help" - I stopped helping and he can expose his machine on the internet, I don't care
[18:37] <bazhang> it was just an odd comment off the bat, with no real contextual reason for it
[18:38] <ikonia> agreed
[22:36] <ow> Hi, I have some questions/requests/etc.
[22:36] <ow> ASM is currently used to monitor #ubuntu and report issues and stuff
[22:37] <ow> the Floodbots are also used to monitor #ubuntu and report issues and stuff, and sometimes automatically quiet/ban/kick people
[22:37] <ow> The thing is, the Floodbots IIRC only communicate attention via !_ops
[22:38] <ow> ASM has a plugin system available, whereby another monitoring bot can report problems via something like ;plugin <channel> <threat level> <reason>
[22:39] <ikonia> ASM ?
[22:39] <ow> AntiSpamMeta
[22:39] <ikonia> ahh, your bot
[22:39] <ikonia> maybe worth talking to ljl and members of the bot team ?
[22:40] <IdleOne> I think your first step would be to speak with LjL about this
[22:40] <ow> ASM has been (for quite some time) configured to ignore !_ops calls from the floodbots, because (in ASM's case) that is only meant to be used as a user-generated trigger
[22:40] <LjL> why do you think ow would have skipped that first step?
[22:40] <ow> ^ :)
[22:40] <IdleOne> I'm not sure.
[22:41] <k1l> the question is what LjL answered :)
[22:41] <ow> In my communication with LjL, he basically said that 1) the floodbots were long overdue for a complete rewrite; 2) he had his doubts as to whether or not the #ubuntu-ops would trust me, given stuff that happened, and other stuff that was rumored to have happened, 3 or 5 or howevermany years ago
[22:43] <ow> anyways. I'd be up for the task of rewriting the Floodbots, and then turning the reigns completely over to the #ubuntu ops, with the stipulation that the code I write would be GPL'ed, and that they be allowed to use ASM's ;plugin functionality so long as ASM continues to be a thing on Freenode
[22:43] <ow> however, I wouldn't want to undertake that task unless I had some assurance that the #ubuntu ops would be interested in making use of the code once I'm done
[22:44] <ow> i.e. I don't want to spend countless hours doing a rewrite only to have them say "nah we'll stick with what we've got"
[22:44] <IdleOne> My first instinct is to trust LjL, especially when it comes to the floodbots. If LjL says you can be trusted I would accept that. All that said the decision is not mine.
[22:45] <IdleOne> so your next step I think would be to contact the IRCC
[22:46] <LjL> i think the fact ow's bot has been working and reporting issues in many channels for several years now can't go unnoticed
[22:46] <ow> I've said my peace. I'm going to part now and come back in a day or two, and see if there's simply any interest in having me do a rewrite. If there is interest, those interested can handle whatever politics or paperwork the process requires - working with beauracracy is something I'm very much *not* interested in.
[22:47] <IdleOne> LjL: indeed