[00:52] <jrgifford> skellat: yeah, so 8.1 isn't entirely voluntary
[04:00] <jrgifford> skellat: The way twitter set things up, it's not a system that allows you to use both.
[04:01] <jrgifford> you're stuck using either their app, or sms. pick 1.
[04:01] <jrgifford> and it's not google 2factor based, so it isn't a standard or anything.