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SchrodingersScatchsados: do you have that libexif installed? if you are on 64bit, do you have the i386 it's looking for?00:01
chsadosi am on 64bit and apparently that i386 has been depreciated?00:01
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SchrodingersScat!info libexif12 | chsados00:02
bekkschsados: which is not true00:02
ubottuchsados: libexif12 (source: libexif): library to parse EXIF files. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.21-1 (saucy), package size 85 kB, installed size 296 kB00:02
OerHekschsados, teamviewer is not in the repository's, read the page, there is a 64 bit version00:02
Random832My wi-fi connection has been unreliable since upgrading to 13.1000:03
chsadosOerHeks: i have tried the 64 bit and 32 bit and i ran00:03
chsados    dpkg --add-architecture i38600:03
chsados    apt-get update00:03
Random832it sometimes works for a few minutes, then drops to two bars for a while, and sometimes disconnects entirely and doesn't list any networks and i have to reload the module before i can use wifi again00:03
bekksOerHeks: technically, its a deb that is marked for 64bit, but installs 32bit files ;)00:03
bekksOerHeks: just a technical detail.00:03
Random83202:00.0 Network controller: Ralink corp. RT3290 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe00:03
OerHekschsados, well, that would be an bad advise,  dpkg --add-architecture i38600:04
Random832it sometimes comes back after dropping to two bars (even though i'm very close to the router), but once it drops entirely i can't get it to reconnect without reloading the module or sleep/resume the computer00:04
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Patero-nganybody here knows how to check if my computer is compatible with ubuntu before running ubuntu00:08
SchrodingersScatPatero-ng: have you tried a liveusb?00:09
Patero-ngdon't matter how many times I run ubuntu it keeps turning my video signal off and then it hangs, music keeps playing in the background00:09
Patero-ngI'm trying it from a usb it hangs my computer and if I don't shut off the power after that for 1 minute it makes my windows crash too00:09
Patero-ngis a powerful flaw00:09
wilee-nileePatero-ng, What release?00:10
tjbenatorSo my computer is wanting to update to  linux-image-3.5.0-40-generic but my /boot is full00:10
bekksPatero-ng: the usb is broken I guess.00:10
Patero-ngthe drive?00:10
kostkontjbenator, paste the output of:  df -h on paste.ubuntu.com for all to see00:10
tjbenatorapt won't let me uninstall the old because of unmet dependencies00:11
bekksPatero-ng: yes00:11
Patero-nghow can it be broken00:11
wilee-nileetjbenator, remove some kernels, having a boot partition is not needed.00:11
Patero-ngI just bought it00:11
wilee-nilee!tab | Patero-ng00:11
ubottuPatero-ng: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.00:11
tjbenatorWill it hurt anything if I delete them?00:11
kostkontjbenator, no00:11
wilee-nileetjbenator, One would keep two sets of kernels generally the one you use and a backup.00:12
Patero-ngwilee-nilee all 12.04 13.04 and 13.10 hang00:12
linuxchick#teensonlinux00:13
wilee-nileePatero-ng, are you expecting to much from a usb, it runs slower and a live environment has limitations?00:13
wilee-nilee!spam | linuxchick00:13
tjbenatorFor the curious: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6267232/00:14
wilee-nileelinuxchick, don't spam the channel.00:14
Patero-ngwilee-nilee I'll try a different drive00:14
wilee-nileePatero-ng, this a install on a hard drive running from a usb?00:15
kostkonPatero-ng, download the iso again, make a fresh live usb out of it00:15
Patero-ngI downloaded 12.04 13.04 and 13.10 all fail00:16
Patero-ngis not the iso is either uncomaptibitlity or my usb drive is broken00:16
kostkonPatero-ng, and try a different usb stick if you can, yeah00:16
kostkonwith*00:16
kostkonPatero-ng, hmm00:17
kostkonPatero-ng, what laptop is it00:17
wilee-nileePatero-ng, a external even if usb3 will just not act like a internal, not a good way to compare.00:18
kostkonPatero-ng, also tried on all usb ports?00:18
Patero-ngcan that make a change00:18
wilee-nileePatero-ng, without really knowing how hard you driving the OS and what may be running this is pointless.00:18
kostkon!tab | Patero-ng00:19
ubottuPatero-ng: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.00:19
Patero-ngkostkon I'll try the failling drive on another computer if it fails I can know is not about compatibiltiy00:19
wilee-nileePatero-ng, So this is a install on a external?00:20
Patero-nga 16 usb drive00:20
wilee-nileePatero-ng, Is it a install or live?00:20
Patero-nglive with persistent space00:21
wilee-nileePatero-ng, a terrible way to compare if usable.00:21
kostkonPatero-ng, try it on all usb ports first00:21
wilee-nileenot the same as a install period Patero-ng00:21
kostkonPatero-ng, then on another computer ok00:21
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Patero-ngkostkon same thing I think00:22
Patero-ngI want to rule out the most scaries thing that the usb drive is faulty00:22
Patero-ngI just bought this 16gb baby at wallmart00:23
Patero-ngis a tiny lowprofile drive00:23
Patero-ngsorry I keep forgetting I should use tab00:24
Patero-ngmy irc client is ugly anyway300:24
wilee-nileeyou can't run a os from a usb and expect any real performance compared to a internal drive00:24
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darkelfjuggaloI just upgraded from Ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10 and the only Theme I have is High Contrast... I can't understand the Software manager to find another Theme so I can get rid of all of this Black and White00:25
OerHeksPatero-ng, try to make the usb again, without the persistent file.00:26
Patero-ngi've tried that too00:26
Patero-ngit failts on both live and persistent mode00:26
kostkondarkelfjuggalo, try the following:  sudo apt-get clean and then sudo apt-get install light-themes00:26
Derek82hi everybody00:27
kostkonDerek82, hi00:27
Derek82i need some downloading packages and im using ubuntu 12.04 x6400:28
jcorganlooking for someone to help make customizations to early userspace boot environment ("casper") for livedvd00:28
darkelfjuggaloMuch better, thank you00:29
kostkondarkelfjuggalo, np00:29
wilee-nileeDerek82, Can you explain that with clarity.00:29
Random832My wi-fi connection has been unreliable since upgrading to 13.10, can anyone help me?00:29
Derek82yes00:29
jcorgantrying to add custom local-premount script that takes input from user00:30
jcorganbut for some reason the console input to stdin doesn't work00:30
jcorgani can insert a debug break in the script to drop to a busybox shell, and manually execute the commands correctly00:31
jcorganbut when those same commands are just invoked as part of a local-premount script, they never get console input00:31
jcorganso hopefully someone here know initramfs-tools and casper enough to helpout00:32
Derek82when i do a sudo apt-get update (i get the following message,  see the following link for refrence) http://paste.ubuntu.com/6267293/00:33
Abadioushellp00:33
Abadioushell0*^00:33
jcorganimportant enough to solve for me that i'd be willing to pay $ if needed00:33
jcorganor bitcoin :)00:34
derrickwhere do i set workspaces from 4 to 2?00:34
AbadiousI was looking for some help with groups and vsftpd00:34
Derek82so what i can do to fix those signatures?00:34
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JoseTekilaHola00:35
JoseTekilaalguien habla español00:35
JoseTekila????????00:35
JoseTekilaalguien habla español00:36
Derek82Any advice?00:36
wilee-nileeDerek82, try running sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys "bad key here"00:36
kostkon!es | JoseTekila00:36
ubottuJoseTekila: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.00:36
uglyoldbobanybody know of a flowchart program that allows a flowchart to be made with a script and then edited by hand?00:37
JoseTekilacomo entro necesito una comunidad de usuarios avanzados00:37
Abadioushello Derek8200:37
uglyoldbobive got some code with 320 blobs that all point at some of the other blobs and would like to find a reasonably fast method of charting it00:37
Abadiousyour issue looks like a bug that was also mention in this thread >> | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-extras-keyring/+bug/893743/comments/700:38
ubottuUbuntu bug 24061 in apt (Ubuntu Quantal) "duplicate for #893743 GPG error with apt-get/aptitude/update-manager behind proxy (BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5)" [High,Fix released]00:38
wilee-nileeJoseTekila, english channel.00:38
Abadioushappy hunting00:38
kostkonJoseTekila, this channel is english only, sorry. join #ubuntu-es or write in english if you can00:38
Derek82where do find I the bad keys?00:38
wilee-nileeDerek82, In your paste run that command and insert the bad sig00:39
guest__This is horrendus! How can I change the dpi!?!?00:39
wilee-nileemight just be missing keys00:39
guest__I can change it through xrandr and xdy whatever reports that I have the correct dpi, but there is no change in the desktop at all!00:40
Derek82what do i do next?00:41
jcorganneed to solve an initramfs-tools issue, specifically with the ubuntu livedvd casper early user space00:41
kostkonDerek82, give sudo apt-get update but since you are already root apt-get update00:42
AxDSanguys00:42
AxDSanI was missing around pulseaudio00:43
AxDSanand now I don't have it anymore..00:43
kostkonAxDSan, try reinstalling it00:43
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Derek82still have errors c http://paste.ubuntu.com/6267349/00:44
AxDSanand I can't remember how I can get it back to work, cuz long time ago, I installed it.. from a forum I was checking, and someone posted a solution with a lot of commands to install pulseaudio00:44
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AxDSanwhen I mean lot of commands... I  really mean it XD00:45
U238Willy.w 400:45
dr_willisany old guide may not apply to new releases also00:45
Derek82?00:46
kostkonDerek82, give this: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-keyring --reinstall && sudo apt-get update00:46
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jjoshi can't unmount a network drive - 13.10 it gives me an error :  Unhandled error message: Error sending data: Broken pipe00:46
OerHeksAxDSan, so what guide?00:46
jjoshi need to logout and log back in everytime i connect to that drive00:46
dr_williswhat kind of network drive?00:47
Derek82its says the following package cannot be authenticated ubuntu-keyring Proceed?00:47
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jjoshvmware fusion, my homedrive on host mac00:48
kostkonDerek82, ignore the error msg, proceed00:48
darkangelUbuntu 13.10 is kickin my ace. if the developers r here WOW u guys sure did 1 hell of a pretty dam good job00:48
jjosh:o broken pipe here too00:48
Derek82after that still comes up with bad signatures00:49
jjoshwhat is this broken pipe00:49
kostkonDerek82, you could try selecting a different mirror00:49
darkangelMain Server is the Best00:49
Patero-ngubuntu 13.04 is so flawed it caused another one of my computers to do a gpu lock up00:50
Patero-ngthe image started to go out of synch00:50
darkangelDid u install the wrong Driver some Driver's has problems00:50
Patero-ngmy pc is a deall from 2006 64mb build in video card00:50
Patero-ngdell*00:50
AxDSan@OerHeks, it was something I found on a forum, I dont quite remember now which it was00:51
irrelev4ntdoes anybody here know how to disable join /quit notifications in empathy?00:51
darkangelmake sure u dont install the 1 that has WARNINGS on bad idea00:51
kostkonDerek82, either in software centre, select edit -> software sources from the menu or you might find an entry for it in system settings. nevertheless, run software source and i think in the first tab there should be an option to select a different server etc00:51
darkangelthats where those kinda GPU problems come from00:51
kostkonsoftware sources*00:51
kostkonPatero-ng, what is the graphics card00:52
Derek82I picked the main server and that did the job and no errors. The U.S servers is messed up i guess00:52
hispeed67sweet. i recently installed ubuntu on a flash drive. i accidentally installed grub to sda. is there any way to remove grub?00:52
jcorganneed to solve an initramfs-tools issue, specifically with the ubuntu livedvd casper early user space console access00:53
darkangelsome US servers r bad yes prob just ur area00:53
Derek82Thanks for all your help!00:53
darkangelit picks the best server nearest to u and great connection not the error it dont detect00:54
irrelev4nt@hispeed67 what OS do you run on sda?00:54
Patero-ngkostkon some old 64mb card build into the motherboard00:54
hispeed67windows 700:54
kostkonPatero-ng, i don't think it can run unity then00:54
OerHeksus servers should be fine. else there would be 1000+ bugreports00:54
hispeed67the puter will boot with the flash drive in it, remove the flash drive and it wont boot00:54
darkangelwhat Bit u install ?00:54
xoushrm00:54
kzkmy audio stopped working. can anyone help?00:54
kostkonPatero-ng, why not download xubuntu or even better lubuntu and try that?00:54
kzki'm 99% sure it was because a WINE application using FMOD crashed00:55
kzki don't know why that could have triggered it though00:55
xousthe Ubuntu installer is going in a loop00:55
wilee-nileehispeed67, you can boot the OS with the usb in?00:55
kzki tried resetting pulseaudio but it didn't help00:55
xousasks me to select a primary interface00:55
hispeed67yes..00:55
Patero-ngyou're right kostkon is too demanding00:55
darkangelPatero-ng: whats ur Bit u installed and how much RAM u have?00:55
wilee-nileehispeed67, Are you in the OS now?00:55
kostkonPatero-ng, yeap.00:55
hispeed67no, different puter.00:55
Patero-ngI'm going to try it on a icore7 laptop brb00:55
JB_039does anybody know how to type ^X in the terminal window I just changed an executable file and can't exit unless I type this00:55
hispeed67wilee-nilee, im puter tech, just need point to fix prolly the boot sector in win 700:56
darkangelreset ur terminal00:56
wilee-nileehispeed67, You can fix grub from the desktop of that install, boot to it and we can fix it.00:56
darkangelor type exit00:56
kzkanybody?00:56
JB_039tried that im editing the file in the terminal00:56
darkangelkzk what ya need help with00:56
irrelev4nthispeed67, you will need a rescue medium if you cant boot into W7 right now00:56
wilee-nileehispeed67, so be clear here than is ubuntu on another HD then sda?00:57
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kzkdarkangel: my audio stopped working, no applications are making any noise00:57
OnnyHow can I install a different kernel than what was installed by the installer?00:57
darkangelgo to ur sound settings00:57
kzkdarkangel: it might have been because a WINE application that used an FMOD DLL crashed00:57
wilee-nileeOnny, why?00:57
hispeed67irrelev4nt: i can boot into win7 on that box. wilee-nilee: win 7 on sda, ubuntu with gnome on a flash drive.00:57
irrelev4ntyou basically just have to rebuild your MBR. Either from within W7 or using a recuemedium00:57
kzkdarkangel: they're fine. i also tried resetting pulseaudio.00:58
Onnywilee-nilee, it keeps installing an EFI-signed kernel when I'm running on MBR-BIOS00:58
kzkdarkangel: oh wait, my bad, in the sound settings it's not even recognizing my speakers00:58
darkangelClick Play Sound through Analog output at the Pulse Audio00:58
hispeed67irrel: that's correct, that's what i figured, just 'scared' of grub :)00:58
darkangelhelps00:58
Onnymakes it boot into kernel panic00:58
wilee-nileehispeed67, Not sure I fully understand you predicament to be honest.00:58
kzkdarkangel: it isn't recognizing my speakers in the "play sound through" menu00:59
kzkit's blank00:59
darkangeloh00:59
wilee-nileeOnny, Did the computer have a uefi set up or is it an apple computer?00:59
hispeed67wilee-nilee: i installed ubuntu to sdc (flash drive) *but* i accidentally wrote mbr to sda, not sdc00:59
hispeed67not, without flash drive, puter wont boot win 7.01:00
hispeed67s/not/now01:00
irrelev4nthispeed67, boot into W7, open an elevated cmd and execute "bootrec /Fixmbr"' "bootrec /Fixboot"01:00
darkangelur sound system in ur computer must be out then01:00
Onnywilee-nilee, neither, it's older hardware that came with W7, before EFI was in most systems01:00
hispeed67irrelev4nt: awesome.. thnx. :)01:00
wilee-nileehispeed67, Boot the OS with the usb and run sudo grub-install /dev/sdc ; sudo update-grub01:00
grndslmquestion... what is the actual package name of the app store in ubuntu??  and i'm not referring to synaptic, btw...01:00
kzkdarkangel: what are you talking about?01:00
darkangelwhat u mean?01:00
hispeed67lol, two ways, bot prolly work,01:01
hispeed67s/bot/both01:01
irrelev4nthispeed67: and be sure to install grub to the sdc first01:01
kzkthe "sound system in my computer"01:01
anonymousie01:01
irrelev4ntotherwise you wont be able to beet the flash drive01:01
anonymousthis is pula01:01
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kzkit was working fine, and it stopped working due to a WINE application using FMOD crashing01:01
darkangeldid u get it workin?01:01
kzk...no01:01
kzki'm asking how to fix it01:01
darkangelwell that "Play Sound Through" is ur Build In Audio out put if u dont have that u have a problem01:02
kzkwell yeah, obviously i have a problem01:03
darkangellol01:03
darkangeli mean ur Audio Hardware is not workin01:03
kzkit's not a problem with my speakers themselves01:04
darkangelMaybe not sure let me do a system test on it01:04
darkangelyeah prob there ur speakers could be a possible01:04
kzknope01:04
kzkthey work on any other device01:05
hispeed67irrelev4nt: bootrec /fixmbr says not recognized command01:05
irrelev4nto.O01:05
darkangelu pluged them in the back right?01:05
kzk...01:05
kzkyes.01:05
darkangel3 plug's?01:05
irrelev4nthispeed: let me check that ... used that command for sure like 2 days ago01:05
OerHekskzk, " it stopped working due to a WINE application using FMOD crashing" ?01:05
darkangelput in green 101:05
kzkOerHeks: yes01:05
OerHeksdarkangel, learn to read01:05
darkangelsure ok?01:06
irrelev4nthispeed67: have a look at this, please: http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/17521-how-fix-mbr-through-command-prompt.html01:06
ubutomSo, I got this problem that my time is always off by about 10 minutes, although it's set to retrieve the time from the internet, any way to fix it or to set another time-server?01:06
kzkOerHeks: i'm not absolutely sure that caused it, but it was working fine up until that point01:06
OerHekskzk have you tried to remove en /pulseaudio folder ? that could solve such issues01:06
darkangelWell Later01:07
OerHeksor .pulseaudio01:07
kzkOerHeks: you mean reinstall it?01:07
OerHekskzk,  no, it is just a settings folder, it will be re-created after removal01:07
kzkoh01:08
kzkwhere would i find that?01:08
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OerHekskzk in you /home/ folder, it is hidden, use ctrl + H to see hidden files01:10
kzkOerHeks: trying that now01:10
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irrelev4nt_hey all. I just used empathy with IRC plugin, but now I cant connect using xChat with my nickname01:11
kzkOerHeks: it works now, thanks so much :D01:11
irrelev4nt_any way of fixing this?01:11
OerHekskzk if it does not work right away, logout01:11
OerHeksoh great01:11
microshow do i launch a process from rc.local as another user, as opposed to root?  i tried sudo -c username command with no luck... thanks.01:12
TriameraWhere do u Donate $$$ to Ubuntu ?01:12
OerHeksTriamera see the ubuntu.com site, or contact your local community01:13
Triameramk01:13
TriameraIs it E-Legal to Sell Ubuntu?01:14
Triameralike in CD's?01:14
wilee-nileeTriamera, no, and some will not fit ob a cd anymore01:14
wilee-nileeon*01:15
TriameraNetinstall01:15
kostkonactually it is01:15
TriameraMinical ubuntu CD01:15
wilee-nileeonly if modified and no credit to canonical01:15
GiiNG3RASSASSiNHi everyone, I'm currently having issues installing Ubuntu 13.10 on my PC and hoping somebody can help.01:16
TriameraIts not Modded01:16
Triamerai have 13.10 whats up01:16
wilee-nileeTriamera, This is the wrong place to ask anyway ask an attorney.01:16
kostkonTriamera, you can01:16
Triameraok01:16
kostkonTriamera, supposedly the customer will be paying for the cost of the medium + shipping and maybe support?01:17
wilee-nileeTriamera, You would be more respected selling support I would think.01:17
GiiNG3RASSASSiNI put the Disc in and try to install it and it loads on the main  screen before logging into my current OS and tit comes up with an error message.01:17
Triamerayes i have ton of exp with Ubuntu and ill only do like 10$ each CD so its not really that much01:17
kostkonTriamera, you can sell just don't try to rip people off01:17
wilee-nilee!md5sum | GiiNG3RASSASSiN01:17
ubottuGiiNG3RASSASSiN: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows01:17
Triamerai dont rip people off that for sure i cant stand it01:18
AnAlienhello01:18
AnAliencan someone help me with get mupen64 to work01:18
Triameraumm GiiNG u prob might not of Installed on Disk correctly buddy01:19
Triameramight be missing something01:19
Hundredwhat is a good offline dictionary for ubuntu?01:19
Hundredi;m looking for something like WordWeb for Windows01:20
GiiNG3RASSASSiNTriamera I believe I have its that my PC doesn't like it, I originally thought the same thing so I tried it on other PC's in the house and worked no problem01:20
AnAliendo i have to install via a terminal for mupen64 or what?01:20
Triameraoh ... might be01:21
OerHeksTriamera, if you would sell it, print the manual too, 150 pages01:21
OerHekshttp://ubuntu-manual.org/downloads01:21
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Triamera0.0 holy crapper Oer01:21
wilee-nileeGiiNG3RASSASSiN, Is this computer a dualboot, and if so with what and it's release?01:22
GiiNG3RASSASSiNI brought the PC back in 2008 so it might be the age of the PC01:22
wilee-nileeGiiNG3RASSASSiN, make sure it is up to running ubuntu hardware wise and try the net install, might be a pae kernel problem01:24
wilee-nileeor try xubuntu or lubuntu01:24
TriameraOerHeks: its 149 Pages not 150 rofl01:24
Triamerajust picking on ya sorry01:25
GiiNG3RASSASSiNI've upgraded most of the parts in it over the last couple years apart from the processor.01:25
bl4ckdu5tI downloaded vim-gtk and I tried to access it by running "vim-gtk" on terminal but it fails01:26
AnAliendoes anyone know how what ishould do?01:26
bl4ckdu5twhere can this file be01:26
Dr_Willisbl4ckdu5t:  i thought it was called gvim01:26
bl4ckdu5tIt was a apt-get install I did01:26
Dr_Willis!find vim-gtk01:27
ubottuFound: vim-gtk01:27
Dr_Willis!find gvim01:27
ubottuFound: vim-gnome, vim-athena, vim-gtk01:27
kostkonTriamera, plus the page that was intentionally left blank ;)01:27
jaamiwhat download manager is good to install?01:27
Dr_Willisjaami:  i rarely find one is needed these days01:27
Triameralol ok ;)01:27
jaamiwhat i should use then? im newb01:28
bl4ckdu5tDr_willis: Thanks vim-gtk is just the package, gvim is the tool I needed01:28
Dr_Willisbl4ckdu5t:  :)01:28
bl4ckdu5tbut in cases of other software with packages like this, how do I find them01:28
jaamii have to download big file so i need download manager for it01:28
viruxany ubuntu guru around01:28
AnAliendoes anyone know how what i should do? http://i.imgur.com/p4HxVZl.png01:28
bl4ckdu5tIf I have the package installed and I can't get the exact tool to use out of it01:29
AnAlienone sec restarting01:29
Dr_Willishttp://askubuntu.com/search?tab=relevance&q=download%20manager   jaami01:29
Dr_Willisjaami:  i tend to just use wget01:29
jaamiok thanks01:29
Dr_Willisbl4ckdu5t:  the package manager tools have comkmands/tools to list whats in the packages01:30
Nautilusare "+", "@" and "." allowed in a login username? eg: a tagged email address01:30
GiiNG3RASSASSiNI think I may have sorted it out, settled on 12.04 instead. Is there much difference between the two?01:31
viruxGood evening everybody.  I downloaded windows 8.1 upgraded everything went fine until the reboot.  Now i am getting an Error: Unknown System Error and then i get the Grub Rescue01:31
Triamerawhat 2 Ubuntu 13.10 and ubuntu 12.04?01:32
Dr_Willis!fixgrub | virux01:32
ubottuvirux: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub201:32
GiiNG3RASSASSiNTriamera - Yeah01:32
Dr_WillisTriamera:  clarify your question01:32
TriameraUbuntu 13.10 is alot faster then 12.04.3 thats where i came from01:32
viruxcan i give u a copy of my paste bin01:32
Triameraplus the start button freezing ur whole computer is gone01:33
Dr_Willisvirux:  if grub is broken. use that boot-repair tool mentooned at the above url's to fix it01:33
viruxhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6267407/01:34
viruxi did it01:34
viruxand it is not working01:34
GiiNG3RASSASSiNRight, I'll see how I get on with it. Tried Mint earlier and didn't quite like it so I'm trying Ubuntu and if I like this a hell of a lot better than I like Windows 7 I'll be swapping it haha01:34
Hundreddoes 13.10 have faster boot?01:34
OerHeksvirux, the 8.1 update is deleted by microsoft, as users experience lots of issues.01:35
gatsby_86753099network doesn't always connect after suspend in 13.1001:35
AnAlienim back, here a screen shot http://i.imgur.com/CbJZXUl.png01:35
Triameratad slower then Ubuntu 12.04.3 like 1 sec slower but every thing else is faster01:35
gatsby_86753099anyone else?01:35
viruxlol now i know01:35
viruxafter mess up my partition01:35
TriameraHundred: tad slower then Ubuntu 12.04.3 like 1 sec slower but every thing else is faster01:35
johnjohn101is there anyway to get the sound indicator to act like before (ie mute icon) instead of the mute being checked in the menu?01:35
viruxi did not know that my hd had residual of long time ubuntu installation01:35
AnAlienis anyone able to help me?01:37
Dr_WillisHundred:  ubntu has allways booted rather quickly for me on my machines.01:37
TriameraExtreamly Quick01:38
Hundredvirux there is another software that can fix that, i forget what it is called tho01:38
Dr_Willisa few releases back they focused on boot times and made some big improvements.. going to be hard to  get it a lot faster  :)01:39
viruxmy pc was booting direct to windows 8 so i dont know how the grub thing came up01:39
Dr_Willisny Ubuntu pc's boot faster then my android tablets or phone. ;)01:39
TriameraAnalien: whats the problem buddy i see the image but am i not seeing?01:39
Dr_Willisvirux:  you may be booting a differnt hard drive some how01:39
viruxno it is the same hd01:39
Hundredvirux i think the software is called TestDisk01:40
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viruxi will check01:40
Dr_Willisvirux:  so you do or do NOT have a ubuntu install on the pc>01:40
Hundredi'm a noob and was able to repair a partition and grub01:40
pfifoUbuntu needs to move away from all this purple, its getting kinda old01:41
viruxnope i am sure that hd had ubuntu installed like 2 years ago01:41
Dr_Willispfifo:  ages ago it was all 'browns'01:41
viruxbut when i installed windows 8 i format the partition01:41
pfifoDr_Willis: I liked the orange01:41
viruxlooks like the boot sector was in a separate sector01:41
Dr_Willisvirux:  if you dont have any ubuntu installed on it.. then go to the windows channel and ask them how to reinstall the windows bootloader.01:41
viruxdr boot why is coming up with a grub error01:42
Dr_Willispfifo:  we need more Lilac and Puce. ;)01:42
LiENUSso i update to ubuntu 13.10 from 13.04 and my clock in the menu bar disappeared, so i pulled up system settings -> time and date then clicked the clock option and everything is greyed out...01:42
OerHeksvirux, so there is no ubuntu on your system, sda has a wrecked mbr.01:42
pfifoDr_Willis: I want to see a white ubuntu01:42
LiENUSDr_Willis, leave the puce01:42
Dr_Willisvirux:  because you dont hav 3 grub properly setup.. if you dont need grub. then reinstall the windows bootloader and remove grub.01:42
Hundredvirux i don't think format really deletes a partition, it just deletes the labels for all the files and stuff01:42
Dr_Willisformating a drive will not erase the bootloader.01:43
Dr_Willisunless of cyoruse you zero out the drive with dd, and repartion. ;)01:43
viruxhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6267407/01:43
TriameraHas any 1 here Installed Ubuntu through the Internet?01:43
AnAlieni figured it out thanks01:44
TriameraOh ya ur tryin to Install Ubuntu with a FAT32 USB right?01:45
TriameraFAT 32 Format01:46
Triameranot good01:46
mikolajhi there01:46
LiENUSDr_Willis, i missed the beginning of hte convo hes talking about formatting a drive from windows?01:46
LiENUSand bootloader went amiss?01:46
TriameraTry FAT or EXT4 format FAT32 all ways gave me a alot of errors on installing01:46
mikolajhow do I set my graphics card to low power profile?01:46
Dr_WillisLiENUS:  im not clear his original issue either. grub just suddendly appeared it sounds like01:47
LiENUSsuddenly appeared... nm i dont wanna get involved lol01:48
OerHeksvirux, Disk /dev/sda: 8 MB ??01:48
viruxappear after the win 8.1 upgrade01:48
TriameraUSB 32 GB01:48
Dr_Willissounds like windows messed with the bootloaders.01:48
OerHeksvirux that would be an hardware issue, contact your reseller.01:48
viruxlol01:48
OerHeks.. lol ?01:48
viruxnot a hardware issue01:48
LiENUSso did ubuntu 13.10 remove the clock from system menu or is my ubuntu install just stuffed?01:49
Dr_Willisif the disk /dev/sda is showing up as 8mb.. that would seem very weird to me01:49
OerHeksvirux anyhow not an ubuntu issue either.01:49
viruxwell you say is not an ubuntu issue01:49
Pinkamena_Dso I have started using a docking station with my thinkpad and now about 50% of the time when resuming from suspend it will not start. Black screen on the docking station, if I open the laptop lid the screen just "flashes" every two seconds or so.01:49
OerHeksLiENUS, clock is there.01:49
Dr_Willisvirux:  do you Have ubuntu installed?01:49
viruxbut windows does not include grub right ?01:50
viruxit was installed on this hd long time ago01:50
viruxthen it was remove01:50
LiENUSOerHeks, it disappeared when i upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10...01:50
pfifoLiENUS: bug 123791001:50
ubottubug 1237910 in Trove "trove-guestagent.conf.sample missing some parameters" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123791001:50
viruxcomputer was booting win 801:50
viruxuntil 1 hour ago01:50
Dr_Willisvirux:  so once again... use windows tools to fix the bootloader since you dont want grub.01:50
LiENUSpfifo, thanks01:50
pfifoLiENUS: darn, wrong number XD but anyway, its a bug01:50
viruxk i will do my research01:51
viruxbye01:51
LiENUSpfifo, is there a fix in the bugzilla?01:51
LiENUSor whatever they use01:51
pfifobug 123971001:51
ubottubug 1239710 in Indicator Date and Time "indicator-datetime and -session missing ~10% of the time" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123971001:51
pfifothere we go01:51
Dr_Willisjust 10% ;) wonder how they measured that01:51
LiENUSwait so the fix is reboot?01:52
Dr_Willisyou got a 90% chance of it showing up?01:52
Dr_Willislog out.back in perhaps is faster01:52
pfifoLiENUS: i think the workaround is reboot, and a fix is on the way01:52
LiENUSpfifo, i dont see my exact symptoms described there... the clock stuff is greyed out in settings too...01:53
LiENUSi see nothing about that in there01:53
LiENUSbut other than that it looks same01:53
pfifoLiENUS: not sure, havent looked into it myself, im loaded down with mir testing01:54
LiENUSpfifo, should i contribute that information or would you think its irrelevant?01:54
pfifoLiENUS: yes, the worst that could happen is that its not useful to anyone01:55
LiENUSalright off to reboot and confirm i have the same problem01:56
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xtrizwhat is the default umask ?01:58
xtrizi am having 0002 shouldn't it be 0022 ?01:58
n0sq_i just upgraded to 13.10 and now the wifi for virtualbox doesn't work - i don't see a new version of oracle virtualbox available for 13.10 - how do i fix this?01:58
LiENUSmine seems to be a distinct bug01:58
LiENUSclock shows up before logging in, i log in it disappears01:58
Dr_Willis!find rtorrent01:59
ubottuFound: rtorrent01:59
Dr_Willis!info rtorrent01:59
ubotturtorrent (source: rtorrent): ncurses BitTorrent client based on LibTorrent from rakshasa. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.9.2-1 (saucy), package size 553 kB, installed size 1482 kB01:59
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pfifoLiENUS: so I guess your trying to say, you clock dosent have the time for you?02:01
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Dr_WillisHmm. somehow the sources list gui tool removed all my sources except one.02:01
LiENUSpfifo, i almost fell for your pun there lol02:02
OerHeksDr_Willis, let me try that tool too!02:02
n0sq_!ghost02:02
LiENUSlemme try my guest account02:02
ubottuIf you own an IRC nick that is currently being used, you can make it change nicks by typing: /msg nickserv release <nick> <password> | If you have a dead (ghost) connection, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv ghost <nick> <password> | further help in #freenode02:02
Dr_Willisunless i some how managed to Unclick ALL of my sources..02:02
uvinDr_Willis, you are on a phone?02:02
Dr_Willisuvin: im hot-spotted at the moment02:02
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phantomcircuitthe nginx-1.1.19-1ubuntu0.2 package appears to have been built w/o the gzip module02:03
uvinheh02:03
phantomcircuiti tried installing nginx-extras and nginx-full but neither of them have it either02:03
pfifouvin: I do hotspot too, got rid of home internet02:03
phantomcircuitwhat gives02:03
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uvinpfifo, how you know the account pass02:04
LiENUSguest account has a clock just not my account :/02:04
pfifouvin: what?02:04
Dr_WillisLiENUS:  try making a new user. see if it works for them.02:04
LiENUSDr_Willis, meh launching it manually works too lol02:05
uvinpfifo,  these hotspot are free and open?02:05
LiENUSit might be the same bug though i just dont feel like rebooting multiple times to test02:05
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LiENUSonce this 3 year old goes to sleep i'll do more testing02:06
Dr_Willisuvin:  err no.. the cell phone provider  costs.02:06
LiENUSpfifo, hotspot to get rid of home internet what?02:06
Dr_WillisLiENUS:  wonder if somthings taking longer to load on the desktop and causing some sort of race condition02:06
OerHeksLiENUS, maybe this answer is any help >> http://askubuntu.com/a/35728002:06
uvinDr_Willis, lol you hacked it02:06
Dr_Willisuvin:  err.. No i did not.02:06
Dr_Willisits a feature of the phone.02:06
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LiENUSDr_Willis, race condition sounds plausible... i have a ssd in a really old system so maybe something is cpu bound while something else is io bound...02:07
uvinDr_Willis, i doubt you can do anything with a 50kb/s connection02:07
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Dr_Willisuvin:  Hmm?  i am on my phone most of the time and rarely have issues with speed.02:08
LiENUSpfifo, where in gods green name do you live that using a hotspot is feasable for ditching home interneT?02:08
sam113101how do I know I created a symlink and not a hard link?02:08
Dr_Willissam113101:  ls -l    will show the link names info02:08
LiENUSspeeds are great sure but 5gb a month of transfer is ftl02:08
Dr_Willissam113101: A Hard link is identical to the actual file name. ;)02:08
sam113101Dr_Willis: ?02:08
Dr_Willissam113101:  ls -l thelinkname02:08
pfifoLiENUS: daytona beach02:08
Dr_Willissam113101:  it will show what the link is pointing to02:09
sam113101lrwxrwxrwx 1 sam sam 20 Oct 19 22:03 /home/sam/Videos/Movies -> /shared_media/Movies/02:09
pfifouvin: the hotspot is on my phone, part of my data plan02:09
Dr_Willissam113101:  rather obvious its a soft link. ;)02:09
Dr_Willissam113101:  im not sure you can make hardlinks to directories.. cant say ive ever tried :)02:09
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pfifoLiENUS: my server has a 2000gb/mop data limit :)02:10
sam113101what's a soft link?02:10
Dr_Willissam113101:   ln -s foo bar    -> makes a soft link02:10
sam113101soft link = symlink?02:10
Dr_Willisln foo bar --> a hard link02:10
LiENUSpfifo, your server as in you just remote any heavy transfer?02:10
Dr_Willissymlink = symbolic link.    a more generic term02:11
pfifoLiENUS: yeah, download it from mcdonalds or something at a later time, but im not much into piracy so I dont use much data anyway02:11
ur0plI want to make it so I port forward to my public ip:8001, then it forwards to one of my lan's boxes:80 port, what is the source port, 8001 or 80?02:11
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pfifour0pl: 8002:12
pfifour0pl: sorry, misread that 800102:12
LiENUSpfifo, meh i used hotspot on my phone for like a week and pulled 4gb :/02:12
nikitisi still have unlimited data on verizon02:13
LiENUSi also dont have cable so i do a ton of netflix02:13
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elb0wAnyone get touchegg working on 13.04?02:14
Smedleshi all... anyone else having issues with no ethernet after resume on 13.10?02:14
Smedlesifconfig eth0 up; dhclient eth0 fixes it - but it's a pita02:15
axisysafter fresh install I get no keyboard/mouse working.. when using the same image as live cd there was no issue. what gives?02:15
pfifoLiENUS: ohh well, netflix and youtube and such will kill bandwidth, but I split my time between programming and playstation 3, and have yet to go over 3.5gb out of 1002:15
axisys13.10 64bit desktop02:15
Cache_MoneyHow come when I hit the Backspace button Chrome won't go back to the previous page?02:15
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OerHeksBarbara_Violet_N, , what is the use of your anoying multiple name changing?02:16
pfifoOerHeks: its a bot i think02:17
LiENUSpfifo, i do a lot of programming too (mostly while watching tv in the background) but i do most of mine remotely02:17
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LiENUSdunno how big a slice that takes up though02:18
LiENUSmy git repositories aren't that big02:18
pfifoLiENUS: its very small unless your uploading lots of graphics or other binary files02:19
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xtrizhow can i change the umask to 0022 ?02:19
pfifoLiENUS: the linux kernel is only 50mb or so, to give you something to compare to02:20
xtrizhi pfifo you are still  here :) looks like you are a linux geek.02:20
pfifoxtriz: ive been in and out all day, im installing 13.10 andtaking mir for a test drive02:21
OerHeksxtriz umask 002 = user and umask 0022 is root iirc02:21
Cache_MoneyDoes nobody like to use the backspace button when browsing on Chrome?02:21
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Noah0504Cache_Money: What do you mean? To actually go back?02:22
SchrodingersScatCache_Money: I just use the alt-leftArrow02:23
xtrizpfifo, heard lot about mir, need to test it too.02:23
axisyscannot type anything in browser/gedit/gnome-terminal02:23
axisyswhat am I missing?02:23
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axisysalt+ctrl+fn works02:24
Cache_MoneySchrodingersScat: thanks!  Is there any way to change it to the Backspace button instead?02:24
xtrizOerHeks, i really have no idea about what the real values must be.02:24
xtrizi just know that the defualt umask is 002202:24
axisysso I can type in virtual terminals .. but not on f7 / gnome manager / main window02:24
OerHeksxtriz, so why are you trying to change the umask?02:25
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xtrizOerHeks, i was just learning more about file permissions and symbolic links, so was checking out my system's file permissions and how they are set.02:26
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nikitis.02:28
mrrcp.02:29
mrrcp./.\.02:29
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nikitistesting irssi theme02:30
nikitiscan't figure out how to change color of nicks02:30
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nikitishelps if people talk02:33
kostkonnikitis, blah blah02:33
VeloxAmbitumblah blah02:33
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nikitisthanks02:34
axisysAlt+F2 xterm and I can type.. but not in gnome-terminal or in firefox browser.. any suggestion?02:34
nikitiskoston your mentioning of my name hilighted yellow and may have solved my problem, thanks02:34
ssj5gokui am new to ubuntu ...can anyone tell me what all things can be done with ubuntu....when i search this on google, it only shows what and what not to install after loading ubuntu....02:34
SchrodingersScatssj5goku: the limits are limitless02:35
ssj5gokuSchrodingersScat: do you watch "the big bang theory"??02:35
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SchrodingersScatssj5goku: no, not fond of it.02:36
ssj5gokuSchrodingersScat: ooh i just thought you got that name by seeing it...02:36
just:D02:36
sam113101shouldn't unity follow my symlinks?02:37
ssj5gokuSchrodingersScat: anyways can you pls tell me some of the things...cause it only feels like i got a new smartphone...02:37
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kostkonnikitis, you are welcome02:38
SchrodingersScatssj5goku: idk, what do you normally do with your computer?02:38
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ssj5gokuSchrodingersScat: play games , write some codes,download plenty of softwares and discover new ways for things to be done easily........i guess02:40
jaamiwhere wget saves downloaded file?02:40
wilee-nileessj5goku, Just info but this is specific support #ubuntu-offtopic is chat.02:40
kostkonssj5goku, ubuntun02:40
kostkonoops02:40
VeloxAmbitumcurrent dir, jaami02:41
SchrodingersScatssj5goku: can try urbanTerror, steam, etc. for games.  you should be able to code just about anything you like.  bash is great for doing certain things on your local system02:41
jaamithanks VeloxAmbitum02:41
kostkonssj5goku, ubuntu software centre and/or steam for games, ubuntu software centre for apps02:41
ssj5gokuSchrodingersScat: thanks... i ll definitely try them today...02:41
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sam113101shouldn't unity follow my symlinks?02:42
kostkonssj5goku, ubuntu blogs like omgubuntu.co.uk, iloveubuntu.net and webupd8.org for ideas02:43
ssj5gokukostkon: thanks ...02:43
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Onny_what's different between the drivers nvidia-310, nvidia-310-updates, and nvidia-313-updates?02:44
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sam113101guys ;(02:46
wilee-nileeOnny, Context? seems self explanatory.02:46
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herzeleidhola hay alguien ahi'02:50
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jaamirebooting now to see if usb start debian setup02:52
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Dr_Willis!manual | ssj5goku02:55
ubottussj5goku: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/02:55
Dr_Willis!games02:55
ubottuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://www.penguspy.com/02:55
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mikolajhow do i change my graphics card power profile?02:57
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Dr_Willismikolaj:  whats the video card?03:00
mikolajDr_Willis: radeon 697003:01
Dr_Willissam113101:  symlinks are part of the filesystem, the apps really shouldent tell the differance03:01
Dr_Willismikolaj:  ati has some sort of control-center tool as part of the fglrx drivers03:01
sam113101Dr_Willis: only unity does03:01
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Dr_Willissam113101:  clarify what you mean03:02
sam113101Dr_Willis: the "lens" doesn't show the videos/images/musics that are inside symlinks03:02
sam113101s/doesn't/don't/03:02
Dr_Willissam113101:  cant say ive noticed  - im on xubuntu so cant verify the issue03:03
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Onnywhere should I put a command I want to be run by each shell for each user on load?03:03
Dr_WillisOnny:  a command to do what exctly03:04
jmgkhallo03:04
OnnyDr_Willis, fortune | cowsaw of course!03:04
sam113101that's why I'm wondering if they are real symlinks03:04
Onnys/cowsaw/cowsay03:04
Dr_WillisOnny:  i got that in my .bashrc03:04
Dr_Willisand you want to use options for fortune to not use very long fortunes or the cow looks wrong03:04
Onnyyeah but if I wanted that and other stuff to set up a computer for someone else to be run by each shell on open03:05
Onnye.g. setup default aliases for each user03:05
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Sir_Letowow there are a lot of users03:05
Sir_Letoare there normally that many?03:05
Dr_WillisOnny:  'on open' is a little vague03:05
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jmgkyes Sir_Leto03:06
jmgk:)03:06
jmgkwelcome abroad03:06
Dr_WillisOnny:  for bash theres system wide /etc/bash.bashrc and other files03:06
cbilljonesjust upgraded and everything seems a little snappier, nice03:06
jmgkah the new Ubuntu03:06
jmgk:03:06
jmgk:D03:06
Dr_WillisOnny:  each user has their own  ~/.profile and ~/.bashrc03:06
Sir_LetoI guess I always switch windows before I see how many users are here03:06
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OnnyI'm familiar with the user files but wasn't sure of the system-wide03:06
Sir_LetoUmm, how do I reinstall grub after updating to Windows 8.1?03:06
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Dr_Willis1600 is slightly above average id say03:07
Onnymeant, loads these settings when user opens a shell03:07
Dr_Willis!fixgrub | Sir_Leto03:07
ubottuSir_Leto: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub203:07
wilee-nileeSir_Leto, I would use the bootrepair app03:07
Dr_WillisOnny:  .bashrc or .profile03:07
Malimbarhas anyone had trouble upgrading from  13.04 to 13.10? The software updater keeps crashing without warning.03:07
Dr_WillisOnny:  they got a setup in them to read a bash.alias file i recall.03:07
Malimbarright after I give it a password I see nothing more03:08
cbilljonesmalimbar is ubuntu-desktop installed03:08
wilee-nileeSir_Leto, I have 8.1 and ubuntu but msdos installs so it was a straight load the mbr, uefi is different.03:08
Sir_Letowilee-nilee  much better option, I wasn't sure if what I was linked would work with my UEFI03:08
OnnyI got it now, thanks03:08
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* Sir_Leto needs linux to fix this phone he bricked03:09
Dr_WillisSir_Leto:  a live usb/cd may be ab le to do it all then03:09
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Malimbarcbilljones, yeah, I never uninstalled it, and doing it again says ubuntu-desktop is at it's newest version03:09
wilee-nileeBillie_Irma_Luci, fix your setup03:10
Hw4ng3rexit03:11
cbilljonesmalimbar hmm that was just my 1st guess of things to check, hard to tell without specific error03:11
Malimbarcbilljones, is there a way to try to catch an error? from the command line or something?03:11
Dr_WillisMalimbar:  run th ecommands from a terminal. look for errors03:12
Billie_Irma_LuciBillie IS DA BEST! All bow down to Billie! Billie rulez da land!03:12
Billie_Irma_LuciEverybody look at Billie and tell him how great he is! Billie RULES! Nobody has the power, might and wisdom of the Billie.03:12
Billie_Irma_LuciNo one is better than the Billie! Billie is the way to go! Billie RULES! Billie AINT OUTDONE BY NO ONE!03:12
MalimbarDr_Willis, the command is pressing a button on software updater03:12
Billie_Irma_LuciCan I get a hell yeah for Billie? Billie is just simply awesome and completely amazing!03:12
FloodBot1Billie_Irma_Luci: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:12
Billie_Irma_LuciThe crowd chants: BBBBiiiilllllllliiiieeee!! BBBBiiiilllllllliiiieeee!! BBBBiiiilllllllliiiieeee!!!03:12
Billie_Irma_LuciBillie IS DA BEST! All bow down to Billie! Billie rulez da land!03:12
Dr_WillisMalimbar:  the apt tools can update/upgrade packages03:13
Dr_WillisMalimbar:  and most all the gui stuff are just front ends to the cli back end tools03:13
MalimbarDr_Willis, but how would I hunt down what the command actually is?03:13
cbilljonesmalimbar run "update-manager" from term; see if you get error that way03:13
Dr_WillisMalimbar:  'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'  for starters03:13
totleim trying to fwrite to a file, but i get the "file too big" error when the file gets larger then 2.1gb. the file system is an ext4. is there any reason why this is happening? im on ubuntu 13.04.03:14
Dr_WillisMalimbar:  and do-release-upgrade   i think updates to the next release if yoy want03:14
Malimbarcbilljones, Dr_Willis, doing cbilljones version first03:15
AdranIs there a daemon in Ubuntu that can print out random factoids on a specific port?03:15
cbilljonesmalimbar just do what dr_willis suggest03:15
Malimbarwell, via command line it seems to be working, thanks guys!03:17
wisemanjust checking in to show off irssi to friends03:19
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PatrickDickeySooo is everyone updated to 13.10 yet?03:20
wilee-nileebeen there for 6 months03:21
MalimbarPatrickDickey, wouldnt that be better for #ubuntu-offtopic ? To answer you though I'm trying to update now :)03:21
PatrickDickeyYou stay on the bleeding edge, right wilee-nilee?03:21
Dr_Willisbeen using it for months here also.03:21
Dr_Willisbeen rather problem free for me03:21
VeloxAmbitumxD with my ISP, just managed to get 13.0403:22
wilee-nileePatrickDickey, I have multiple OS always I load the development right away.03:22
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PatrickDickeyI see. I was curious how the update is going for people. If there are any issues so far.03:22
Tex_Nickusing 13.04 ... for a few days now "Software Updater" has been notifying me of 13.10 upgrade ... about 6 hrs. ago i decided to do it ... i clicked on Upgrade ... it presents me with a "Welcome to Saucy dialog window" ... I click on "Upgrade Button" ... it presents a dialog that says "Downloading the release upgrade tool" ... the dialog window closes & nothing happens ... what do i need to next ?03:23
PatrickDickeyTex_Nick: by chance is there a box that wants you to authenticate?03:24
Tex_NickPatrickDickey:  yes sir & I do so03:24
Onnywhat's a good GPU benchmark for Linux?03:25
Tex_NickPatrickDickey:  sorry i didn't mention that03:25
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wilee-nileeTex_Nick, check your sources, turn off 3rd parties and make sure the server is answering.03:25
wilee-nileeand be updated03:26
chenyuweiI have update ubuntu 13.1003:27
chenyuweieverything is ok03:27
Tex_Nickwilee-nilee: ok hey that's a good start ... will do that in a bit ... thanks for the input ;-)03:27
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lotuspsychjechenyuwei: hows 13.10 speed and stability?03:30
Ari-Yanghow come when I run xrandr --auto a window called 'Desktop' is launched? (it's a nemo window)03:32
Ari-Yangit doesn't do it all the time though... but I prefer it no to do it at all03:33
lotuspsychjeAri-Yang: with what purpose are you using it?03:33
Ari-Yanglotuspsychje: use it when I hook up my laptop to tv with hdmi03:34
Ari-YangI run xrandr --auto to get a picture on the TV03:34
lotuspsychjeAri-Yang: and does it show on tv?03:34
mikolajwhy am I not allowed to do things like execute python scripts on my system03:35
Ari-Yanglotuspsychje: uhhh just fine. but do you know what I'm asking? How to prevent a fake Nemo Desktop window from popping up03:35
lotuspsychjemikolaj: you have an error?03:35
mikolajpermission denied03:35
lotuspsychjeAri-Yang: well not sure mate, never used it myself..maybe its needed to display to tv?03:36
Ari-Yangbtw I'm not using cinnamon, lotuspsychje03:36
Ari-Yang....no03:36
Ari-Yang.__.03:36
Ari-Yangthat doesn't make any sense whatsoever03:36
lotuspsychjemikolaj: did you sudo your script?03:36
Ari-Yangoh and where do I go to tell an op a spam bot pmed me?03:36
Ari-YangIRCops03:36
DarkangelHey Just wondering whats the thing on System Monitor then on ur "Processes" it has LOAD on top whats that for what does it mean?03:36
lotuspsychjeAri-Yang: i just reported it03:36
mikolajlotuspsychje, I tried chmod +x but nothing happened03:36
Ari-Yanglotuspsychje: Wanda_Nelda_Velm right?03:37
Ari-Yangthat's the nick that pmed me...03:37
NautilusIs something down?03:37
NautilusErr http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com precise Release.gpg03:37
Nautilus  Temporary failure resolving 'ca.archive.ubuntu.com'03:37
Heavensrevengehi03:37
lotuspsychjeAri-Yang: yes he changed ip's and continue spam03:37
m000gleI've just installed Ubuntu 13.10, but the GRUB2 boot loader fails to see my dual boot Windows 8 installation ... Ubuntu is installed to /dev/sda6, Windows 8 installed on /dev/sda103:37
Heavensrevengecan anyone point me to how the control flow works in mir?03:37
m000gleRunning "sudo update-grub" only detects the Ubuntu Linux image.03:37
m000gleCould someone help me re-instal the GRUB, so it will also detect my Windows installation, and provide the selection screen at boot?03:38
Random832my wifi connection is unreliable ever since upgrading to 13.1003:38
Random832can someone help me03:38
wilee-nileem000gle, This from the install?03:38
Heavensrevengethe spec page only has 1 way diagrams but doesnt show how an event flows from input->output03:38
m000glewilee-nilee: This was from a fresh install of Saucy, onto the same partition which previously had my Raring install03:39
wilee-nileem000gle, This windows 8?03:39
m000gleYes, but NOT uefi, and NOT an OEM version of Windows 803:39
wilee-nileem000gle, Hmm, can you run the bootrepair app just the bootinfo summary and post the url to that script?03:40
wilee-nileem000gle, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair03:41
Heavensrevengedoes anyone at all know anything on how mir works???03:42
mikolajI don't understand, why is not chmod working?03:43
MalimbarHeavensrevenge, I odn't, but I might be able to find what you're looking for online. Also, you could laways try #mir03:44
Nautilusapt-get is telling me this: Temporary failure resolving 'ca.archive.ubuntu.com'   ... is something down?03:44
Jiajie_why did my terminal's default directory  become ~/doc.03:44
Heavensrevengeoh i didnt know there was a #mir room, ill check :)03:44
MalimbarHeavensrevenge, looks pretty light, might take a while for a response03:46
PatrickDickeymikolaj: What exactly are you trying to chmod? And does your user/group own the file?03:46
Heavensrevengeyea, well i know how waylands internals work03:46
mikolajPatrickDickey, I'm trying to make a python script executable03:46
Heavensrevengebut ive been trying to read the mir code and i cant grok how the darn events flow through the system when mir is in charge03:46
makineitorhello03:47
Heavensrevengeonce i see how the actual flow works ill be able to decide and judge whats going on03:47
PatrickDickeymikolaj: and you tried chmod +x name.py or just chmod +x name?03:47
mikolajPatrickDickey, the first one03:47
PatrickDickeymikolaj: what does ls -l name.py show you?03:48
PatrickDickeywhere name.py is the script03:48
mikolajPatrickDickey, it shows that nothing changed03:48
Jiajie_how to change the terminal's default dir?please!03:48
PatrickDickeymikolaj: Try it with sudo, just in case. If you own the file, it shouldn't need that.03:49
mikolajPatrickDickey, I tried it but it did not work either03:49
mikolajPatrickDickey, I can run it with python script.py03:49
Nautilusdang, looks like the DNS on my new VPS isn't working ... what would cause:03:49
Nautilusping google.com03:50
Nautilusping: unknown host google.com03:50
mikolajPatrickDickey, but I want to be able to use ./script.py03:50
PatrickDickeymikolaj how exactly are you trying to run it otherwise?03:50
soy_el_pulpoJiajie_: change or create a bashrc file I guess...03:50
mikolajPatrickDickey, but when I do that, it says permission denied03:51
Jiajie_soy_el_pulpo: change the /etc/bashrc file?but i hadn't seen such a entry.03:51
PatrickDickeymikolaj:  try sudo chown youruser:youruser script.py. Or does the script do anything that requires sudo permissions by chance?03:52
soy_el_pulpocreate your own inside your user home folder03:52
soy_el_pulpoit is: ".bashrc"03:52
soy_el_pulpothere you can customize your shell experience03:52
PatrickDickeyJiajie_: you have to show hidden files, or use ls -a to see it.03:52
soy_el_pulpojust for you03:53
mikolajPatrickDickey, I don't think so, the normal operations with chmod all worked fine under xubuntu03:53
Jiajie_PatrickDickey: ok03:53
Jiajie_soy_el_pulpo: let me try03:53
wyldemikolaj, just throwing this out the but, does your script have the shebang?  #!/usr/bin/python at the beginning of the script.03:54
m000glewilee-nilee: Following the automated repair, the GRUB screen now appears at boot, but Ubuntu is the only OS listed.  Windows is not there.03:54
wyldethere*03:54
m000glewilee-nilee: I'm just in the process of generating the bootinfo03:54
mikolajwylde, yep it does03:54
wilee-nileem000gle, cool post that link when it shows.03:55
PatrickDickeymikolaj: Does the script do anything that requires sudo permissions?03:55
wilee-nileem000gle, Was grub missing before?03:55
mikolajPatrickDickey, no03:56
mikolajI think I found the problem03:57
m000glewilee-nilee: The GRUB screen was missing since installing Saucy/13.10 in the past day.  Before that, all the way back to Maverick/10.10, the GRUB screen has show fine, and coexisted perfectly with Windows7/803:57
PatrickDickeymikolaj: Do you have any other python scripts in that directory? And are they all executable?03:57
m000glewilee-nilee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6268026/03:57
mikolajthe script was located on a usb drive03:57
mikolajwhen I moved it to a folder on my hd I was able to change the permissions03:57
mikolajI don't understand the difference, but that solved the problem03:58
TiZHi. I upgraded to Xubuntu 13.10, and GTK 3 no longer respects xfconf's xsettings/Gtk/ColorScheme property. What can I do about this?03:58
Matthew_MooreQuestion. i am trying to remaster my copy of Ubuntu to share it with some friends. Remastersys  is not giving my the quality product that i want.  what software is best to remaster a copy of Ubuntu??03:58
PatrickDickeymikolaj: If I had to venture a guess, I'd say that either the USB drive is mounted read-only, or since it's mounted in /media or /mnt, you didn't have the permissions to make changes.03:59
emperorhordehello ubuntu comunity ...03:59
emperorhordegreats from Mexico03:59
Anarhisthello, something strange is happening on my machine. another site (archive.org) is being resolved as 127.0.0.1, i have checked it's not in the /etc/hosts and have no idea where to look next03:59
mikolajPatrickDickey, well thanks for trying to help anyways04:00
jmgkGreetings emperorhorde04:00
jmgk:)04:00
PatrickDickeyNo problem. I'm glad you got it sorted out.04:00
PatrickDickeyhola emperorhorde.04:00
wilee-nileem000gle, A whole lotta HD's, this raid, and what HD is first read  in the bios?04:00
emperorhordei need resolving problem with my capture video card04:00
emperorhordei am used ubuntu 1304 my video tuner card is  WinTV-PVR-15004:01
m000glewilee-nilee: No RAID, just JBoD ... Essentially, Ubuntu and Win8 with shared NTFS storage04:02
emperorhordeno working :(04:02
Onnyhow do I install a package for raring that isn't available in the current04:02
Jiajie_soy_el_pulpo: thank u! I use echo ~ >>.bashrc and it seems working.04:02
m000glewilee-nilee:  I would assume its sda, but I can restart and check BOSI.  brtb04:02
Jiajie_PatrickDickey:  thank u! I use echo ~ >>.bashrc and it seems working.04:02
soy_el_pulpoJiajie_: look for all the things you can do with bashrc... tons of options, you will go crazy04:02
mikolajhow do I open something like a task manager?04:03
wilee-nileem000gle, You have grub in every mbr you just need to make sure the grub boot you see is the one in the sda mbr, you can load it from the dektop are you there now?04:03
soy_el_pulpoJiajie_: /etc/bashrc is the global one for all users, it merges with your own if you have one.04:03
Anarhistissue resolved, it's probably a dns block in russia04:03
PatrickDickeymikolaj: If you're using a desktop version, you can type System Monitor in the search bar.04:03
m000gleYes, I'm on the deskto atm04:03
emperorhordesoy el pulpo hablas español ??04:03
Jiajie_PatrickDickey: oh04:03
soy_el_pulpoy lo escribo tambien04:04
emperorhordechido !!!04:04
soy_el_pulpo;)04:04
wilee-nileem000gle, Run sudo grub-install /dev/sda then sudo update-grub and make sure sda is first read in the bios.04:04
Jiajie_PatrickDickey: i had crazy thousands of times04:04
soy_el_pulpojaja, chido es mexicano04:04
emperorhorde no sirve mi capturadora WinTV-PVR-15004:04
emperorhorde:(}04:04
soy_el_pulpohay tantas palabras divertidas entre mexicano y peruano que no te imaginas04:04
emperorhordesimona pelona04:05
emperorhordea hueso04:05
PatrickDickeyemperorhorde: Did the WinTV card work before in Ubuntu?04:05
m000glewilee-nilee:  No luck with the sudo grub-install /dev/sda && sudo update-grub ... A with before, it detects the Ubuntu install fine (Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.11.0-12-generic)04:05
lotuspsychje!mx | soy_el_pulpo04:05
lotuspsychje!es | soy_el_pulpo04:06
ubottusoy_el_pulpo: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.04:06
m000glem000gle: It's simply not detecting the Windows install on /dev/sda104:06
emperorhordePatrickDickey: is the first time I want to use the card in ubuntu04:06
wilee-nileem000gle, I think you are missing some windows bcd in sda2, you have a windows install or recovery disc/usb?04:06
emperorhordepulpo esta solo ese canal jaja04:07
emperorhordemi ingles apenas esta naciendo ... solo un 30%04:07
m000glewilee-nilee: Yeah, I can create a Windows USB, if needed04:07
wilee-nileem000gle, I need to reboot to linux to see my own script hold on be right back04:07
PatrickDickeyemperorhorde: http://www.hauppauge.com/site/support/linux.html In the end, I think you have to install the mods from the linuxtv.org site that they'll reference.04:08
eph3meralso connecting to this VPN I have seems to disconnect some but not all parts of my ethernet connection04:08
eph3meralhas anyone seen this?04:08
PatrickDickeyemperorhorde: You can also join the #linuxtv channel. They'll be the ones to help you get it working.04:08
odiumAfter an unfortunate mishap with uninstalling cups, I have mostly recovered from but I can't get my audiodevice to work04:08
cipherboyHey, does anyone have any decent guides on theming cinnamon? Mostly they say modify an existing theme file, however, I can't seem to find the section which themes the workspace title as it gets displayed when switching workspaces.04:09
emperorhordeI've been reading but still I can not understand what to do ... install software repositories but the card is not detected.04:09
emperorhordeaaa linuxtv  ok ok :D04:10
soy_el_pulpoemperorhorde: do lspci and look for the card in the results04:10
emperorhordelspci donde le doy04:10
emperorhordein the terminal =??04:11
soy_el_pulpoasi es04:12
soy_el_pulpoyes04:12
lotuspsychjeenglish guys04:12
soy_el_pulpoda04:12
soy_el_pulpoyes04:12
wilee-nileem000gle, Yeah you are missing this in sda2 /bootmgr "/Boot/BCD" you can repair it with a recovery or install disc/usb boot from a command line I can give you the commands.04:12
m000glewilee-nilee: Would tehse commands be run from within my Ubuntu install, or Windows recover CD?04:13
wilee-nileem000gle, from the recovery cd booted to its command line04:13
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emperorhordeas it is called to paste data page long??? to send you the list of my devices detected04:13
m000glewilee-nilee:  Sure, if you could give me the commands, that would be a huge help04:14
vindavThere's always something to learn & offer support here to help and bring encouragement, and bring furtherance to developing the Ubuntu Linux community.  A good place to go for help.04:15
m000glem000gle:  Will this essentially achieve the same thing as booting from a Win8 live CD, recovering the Windows bootloader, and then from an Ubuntu live USB re-installing GRUB2?04:15
lotuspsychjevindav: great feedback mate04:15
phpwnhey04:16
phpwnhow long does upstart normally take to respawn a daemon?04:16
wilee-nileem000gle, From the recovery command line here are the commands the rebuild is the last one. http://pastebin.com/0uiVXQmU04:16
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vindavAm looking for support tonight.  Helping a friend here who has corrupted .jpg files on their Ubuntu Linux 12.04 LTS system.  FIles were transferred from a USB memory stick.  Some are good and some are not.  Is there a way to uncorrupt the .jpg files ?04:16
wilee-nileem000gle, The windows recovery disc booted command line04:17
m000glewilee-nilee: Excellent!  Thanks a lot!04:17
sam113101IT'S BACK04:17
wilee-nileem000gle, should work, you will just need to make sure you have run the original grub-nstall to sda and its read first and run a update-grub in ubuntu when all done.04:18
phpwnhrm, upstart doesn't  seem to be respawning anything04:18
sam113101it's broken again04:18
sam113101goddammit04:18
wilee-nileesam113101, please keep the emotional outbursts clean04:19
vindavlotuspsychje:  are you available to chat about getting support on a issue of corrupt .jpg files ?04:19
PatrickDickeyemperorhorde: If you have a lot of stuff to paste, you can put it up at http://paste.ubuntu.com and give the link to us.04:19
sam113101I cleaned my home folder but the busgs are back04:20
sam113101;_;04:20
phpwnhm looks like "initctl status mydaemon" is not detecting the daemon as up.. any ideas why?04:20
phpwneven though it's running04:20
PatrickDickeywhat bugs are you getting sam113101?04:20
sam113101https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1241252 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1241258 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/124191304:21
sam113101those04:21
ubottuUbuntu bug 1241252 in compiz (Ubuntu) "the top menu bar is black although the Radiance theme is in use" [Undecided,New]04:21
ubottuUbuntu bug 1241258 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "wallpaper doesn't span across multiple monitors, white background shows instead" [Undecided,Confirmed]04:21
ubottuUbuntu bug 1241913 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "font inconsistency throughout the system" [Undecided,New]04:21
TiZHi. I upgraded to Xubuntu 13.10, and GTK 3 no longer respects xfconf's xsettings/Gtk/ColorScheme property. What can I do about this?04:21
emperorhordethanks Patrick !!!!!!!!!!04:21
PatrickDickeyde nada emperorhorde.04:21
* PatrickDickey and that's about all the Spanish I know. :)04:22
sam113101por favor04:22
sam113101yo llevo una falda roja04:22
vindavIs there a way to uncorrupt the .jpg files ?04:23
jmgkvindav:  change it to a different format04:24
jmgk.png perhaps?04:24
wilee-nileevindav, are they called jpg still?04:25
vindavjmgk:  Didn't think about that, but I'll try that right now and let you know.  Thank you for responding.  :D04:25
jmgkyeah04:25
jmgkno problem vindav04:25
vindavwilee-nilee:  yes, the files are still .jpg04:26
wilee-nileeyeah I would try the png04:26
kaioola04:26
phpwnh solved it04:26
jmgk:)04:27
jmgksee I was right :d04:27
jmgk:D04:27
kaioola *Anarhist04:28
Anarhisthi kaio04:28
VeloxAmbitumdual monitor with multi-workspaces is disorienting04:28
vindavwilee-nilee:  I tried renaming the .jpg to .png and the file did not open.04:28
wilee-nileevindav, hmm, not sure then, no backups?04:28
vindavjmgk:  I tried renaming the .jpg to .png and the file did not open04:29
vindavno backups were made04:29
jmgkoh04:29
jmgk:(04:29
jmgkhmm04:29
jmgkHow did it get corrupted ?04:29
vindavI think the files are corrupt from a previous USB transfer.04:30
wilee-nileevindav, testdisk has photorec might try that.04:30
vindavCan I get those from the Ubuntu Software Centre ?04:31
vindavIs it possible to just test a folder using testdisk ?k is downloadable from Ubuntu Software Centre.  I'll try that out04:33
wilee-nileevindav, testdisk is in the repos, be very careful04:33
vindavok, oops, is it possible to just test a folder using testdisk ?04:34
wagonboiI'm trying to install a program using Wine but after clicking on Next, it closes. It's an EXE setup file. Any ideas?04:34
vindavwilee-nilee:  how do I be careful when just a 'System Testing' window appears with a list of tests to run on my system ?04:35
PatrickDickeywagonboi: right click on the file and choose Open with Wine Program Loader?04:36
wagonboiPatrickDickey, that option isn't on my Right click menu04:36
wagonboiI open using a custom command, wine %s04:36
wilee-nileevindav, I have only used testdisk once just to test it, I believe you can cd to that folder and run it. I'm not real up on its actual use.04:37
PatrickDickeywagonboi: is the program that you're trying to install supported under Wine? I mean is it listed in the winehq.org database?04:37
wagonboiYes it is04:37
vindavwilee-nilee:  any other suggestions ?04:38
vindavwilee-nilee:  Can you also suggest please a USB formatter for Ubuntu Linux 12.04 LTS ?04:39
wilee-nileevindav, Not really, I would of had that backed up to be honest.04:39
PatrickDickeywagonboi: You could try using either winetricks or the "Uninstall a Program" from the Wine menu (It has an "Install" button)04:39
vindavGnome formatter isn't that good, neither is disc utility04:39
wilee-nileevindav, I use gparted to format usb04:40
wagonboithanks PatrickDickey . Do you think there are other packages needed to run Windows program, like libmono, or should Wine be able to run programs by themselves?04:42
PatrickDickeywagonboi: It depends on the application. Winetricks should help you install most of the necessary packages though.04:43
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emperorhordevidnav TESTDISK rulez :D04:46
Guest29461Nice to see IRC is still alive and well.04:46
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sam113101;|04:51
sam113101I wish I could fix teh bug myself04:52
janjahttp://MegaStoon.Com/sms/sms.php?share=17861604:53
jetroI just unzipped a tar.gz file that contains a driver for my broadcom wireless, I now see a makefile, src folder, and lib folder05:01
jetrohow do I install the driver?05:01
jetro1st time on ubuntu, sorry if this is a noob question05:01
jetroI am guessing I have to use some command on the makefile?05:01
VeloxAmbitumggiybf05:02
vozeldrhello05:02
jetroI googled, ggiybf, not sure if that is anything meaningful?05:03
VeloxAmbitumgiybf05:03
sam113101you should be able to install it from the repos I think (your driver)05:03
vozeldri have used various nix and bsd distros + mac os and i earn my living as a windows developer05:03
umarzukijetro: there's a broadcom driver on ubuntu repo, which model?05:03
umarzukijetro: lspci | grep -i network05:04
vozeldri've use ubuntu before but i'm about to go back to it as my primary os05:04
Dr_Willisjetro:  most likely you dont need to compile it. there may be packages for it allready made05:05
Dr_Willis!broadcom05:05
ubottuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx05:05
vozeldrand was wondering if anyone could give me any guidance as far as setup... literally the only thing i use that is windows specific directly relates to development (VisualStudio, IIS, MSSQL)05:05
Guest29461A Windows Dev, about to cross over to the dark side of opensource!05:06
jetroumarzuki: Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller05:06
vozeldrwell, i'll still earn my living as a windows dev... gotta pay the bills!05:06
Dr_Willisvozeldr:  setup what?   Install and use the defaults, or partion by hand and make a seperate /home/ partition is about as basic as it gets and fits most people.05:06
wilee-nileeyeah I'm a windows developer to what evet that means lol.05:07
vozeldrwell, this will be my personal computer for 90% of what i need to do and for that work bit that i need to develop in .net for 10% i need to know the best setup for05:07
umarzukijetro: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx05:07
vozeldri guess i shouldn't call myself a windows developer... i'm a developer... i get paid to write ios, java, php, ruby, and .net apps05:07
umarzukilets see how that goes for you05:07
Dr_Willisim not sure you really want to do .net development on linux. ;) seems most linux people hate .net or mono05:08
Guest29461Voz, want to make ven more money at MS?  Get them to open up their source codes to the Unix/Linux community.  They have, after almost 30 years, entrenched their products into every nook and cranny of everyone's lives.  Time for them to let go of that ancient C, and look for improvements outside the box.05:08
wilee-nileevozeldr, people might believe you here. ;)05:08
vozeldrthe difference to me is that i can develop .net easily in a virtual machine on linux but apple is a bunch of bastards05:08
jetroumarzuki, Dr_Willis, I downloaded the driver from that link: http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php, I have unzipped it and there is a Makefile, lib folder, and src folder05:09
Dr_Willisjetro:  the 'sta' driver i belive is in the default kernel/system05:09
Guest29461Yah shouldn't HAVE to use a VM to develop!  That is the point!05:09
Dr_Willis!find linux_sta05:10
ubottuFile linux_sta found in libselinux1-dev, mrtg-contrib05:10
vozeldrlook, i said that the only thing i do specifically in windows is visual studio (plus iis and mssql for testing)... lay off me... if never been a windows guy and don't want to use it as primary but bottom line is that's one of the main things i get paid for05:10
xmetalhmm05:10
Dr_Willislay off? dident notice anyone laying on you. Im just not clear on what you are asking about.05:10
jetroDr_Willis, so how would I install the driver?05:11
PatrickDickeyvozeldr: If you're developing in Visual C#, you might be able to do it with mono. Otherwise, yeah, you'll have to use a virtual machine.05:11
Dr_Willisjetro:  if you have an alterantive way to connect to the internet. the addational-drivers tool should be able to install them05:11
vozeldrDr_Willis: i was wondering what would be the better way to setup my machine for when i have to do windows development05:11
* PatrickDickey is more or less curious what the original question was from vozeldr.05:11
Dr_Willisdual boot, or use a virtual machine. are about the only 2 options.05:12
vozeldrPatrickDickey: i used to contribute to mono and i'm aware of it... but the projects i'm working on when i have to do .net are for clients who definetly want .net05:12
Guest29461Well, format the drive, low-level, for one.  Then install Windows05:12
PatrickDickeyvozeldr: I would say that you'll need to dual-boot. I've never had any luck installing Visual Studio inisde of a virtual machine. Unless they've fixed that recently.05:12
Dr_Willisor both. :)05:12
vozeldrwell, i've used vs in a vm before and for a while with 2010 there was an issue with remote desktop and the UI but i don't think that exists anymore05:13
Guest29461Funny shit man.  A MS Window developer, coming into a Linux open source channel asking how to make their dev machine more amenable to developing Windows proggys.05:14
vozeldrbut my question was more about whether or not i should setup something like virtualbox hosting a guest os or if it would be better to setup something more hyperv05:14
Guest29461Voz, use the tools Microsoft has provided you with?05:15
PatrickDickeyGuest29461, I've been an Ubuntu user for about four years now. However my college required me to do everything in Windows, and the one I'm teaching at only uses Windows. So, I can see his point.05:15
Guest29461The company is worth, what?  35 BILLION?  Can they not provide you with the tools you need?05:15
vozeldromg... i'm a consultant... i might get paid today to write a .net app and tomorrow be writing a ruby app... development is development and it's how i make my living... get over it05:15
VeloxAmbitum:o broke ubuntu - no window frames :P05:15
PatrickDickeyHe's not a Microsoft Employee. He just develops programs on Windows.05:16
Dr_WillisVeloxAmbitum:  if compiz crashes - you will loose the decoration05:16
tozenstop to flooding channel, please, calm down gals!!!05:16
Guest29461Ahh.  And college these days says that WIndows is the way to go in the future?  To make mad money?05:16
Guest29461It is crap.  MS and Windows is going to come to a crashing halt, fairly soon05:17
Dr_Willisenough with the trolling Guest29461  please..05:17
vozeldrwow, i guess i can't ignore Guest29461 since i'm also a guest?05:17
Dr_WillisI think the question is about what VM to use for running windows  as a developing enviroment.05:17
* PatrickDickey figures that our community college uses the same os and applications as 99% of the businesses in the area...05:17
Dr_Willisvozeldr:    /ignore dosent care who you are ;)05:18
vozeldryes, Dr_Willis... thanks... my question was about how to best setup my environment05:18
Guest29461Intel and MS have been in bed with each other for a very long time, but the dancing ballad is going to come to an end when Intel hits that physical limit in the next couple of years.  And then the open source, clean mean machines will bear the brunt of the work.  The Linix/Unix machines05:18
Dr_Willisyou mean 'what viertual machine to use' ;)05:18
Dr_Willisi only use vbox. so cant really advise about the others.05:18
xtrizwhat is the main difference between softlink and hardlink ?05:19
Dr_Willisxtriz:  a hard link IS identical to the original file.05:19
wagonboiPatrickDickey, I got it working. Wine 1.4 was uninstalled, I added the Wine repo, and installed Wine 1.5 . Thank you05:19
PatrickDickeyvozeldr: How familiar are you with using Hyper-V? Like Dr_Willis, I only use virtualbox. So I'm not sure whether Hyper-V would work better or not.05:19
Dr_Willisxtriz:  once you make a hard link to a file. its the same data with 2 names. each are equally valid05:20
vozeldri meant run it in an os virtualization like virtualbox or something more paravirtualization like hyperv05:20
Dr_Willisxtriz:  a soft link is easially detected and can work across filesystems05:20
tozenDr_Willis: is it possible to add some xtra space to already created vbox partittion?05:21
Dr_Willisxtriz:  a hard link can not go across filesystems05:21
Guest29461Considering all of that, the irony is thick that a Win developer needs to come to an obscure IRC channel to find help.  No help from Microsoft then?  Remember.  IRC is VERY obscure to 99.2995% of the connected population05:21
Dr_Willistozen:  should be possible. or just add a 2nd virtual hd to the setup05:21
xtrizDr_Willis, nice info :)05:22
xtriznow getting05:22
vozeldryeah, and i've probably been using IRC longer than you've been alive Guest29461 but i thought ubuntu was about community so thought i'd come for a discussion... not to get flamed by some kid05:22
Dr_Willisxtriz:  i recall reading this from some old old linux kernel book i got decades ago05:22
Guest29461Your posturing is un-needed and unwarranted05:22
jmgkbrb05:23
Dr_WillisGuest29461:  as is your trolling. please stop it.05:23
PatrickDickeyGuest29461: And you're beating a cow, and calling it a horse. Please let it drop. It doesn't matter WHAT he's developing for. His question is how to best set up his environment for developing.05:23
xtrizDr_Willis, decades ago :D cool :)05:23
Guest29461voz, here is the bottom line.  You FEED MS the nonsense that allows it to grow.  It is a fat, bloated nasty company that makes money of of laziness.   WHy not start developing for the free and open community05:24
Dr_Willisxtriz:  yep. i could tell the book was typset with troff/nroff ;)05:24
Ben64Guest29461: completely off topic, quit it05:24
tozenDr_Willis: i mean i've got winxp installed on 4 gigs vbox so can i merge with another to get it more capacious?05:24
Ben64vozeldr: you should be fine with vbox05:24
xtrizDr_Willis, you are quite experience :D even more experience than half of my age :D :D05:25
Dr_Willistozen:  vbox i recall has tools to resize the  virtual disks.05:25
vozeldrcool... i did have some other questions about setting my machine up for other development environments too... like i said, i'm a consultant i write what my client wants05:25
StritHi guys. Any of you know how to get Kazam screencaster to work in 13.10? Appearently it broke during update.05:25
xtrizDr_Willis, till i remember the best i have seen you here atleast 3 years back when i first install ubuntu 10.0405:26
tozenDr_Willis: ok thx mate ;-)05:26
Guest29461My bad.  Let's just all go up into space and fall back to earth with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aCOyOvOw5c05:26
Dr_Willisxtriz:  i was ircing back in the days of serial terminals and green-bar printing 'terminals' ;)05:26
vozeldrlike traditionally i've had apache installed for doing *AMP applications but for java development i've run jetty... is there a prefered web server i could install that would handle both easily?05:27
Guest29461Green bar printing terminal?  You mean a dot matrix, on the alternating green/white paper?05:27
tozenStrit: dont really think it's ready for 13.10 to fresh distro yet05:27
rdw200169vozeldr: well, there's mod_jk for apache that can bridge tomcat and apache05:28
Stritto05:28
Strittozen, well it worked fine on 13.04. And now it's in the default repo's.05:28
vozeldryeah, been a while since i tried it... does it integrate better into eclipse and netbeans now?05:29
tozenin 13.10 repos?05:29
Strittozen, yeah05:29
Strittozen, but when I press capture it just blinks yellow and red a few times and then closes down.05:29
rdw200169vozeldr: does anything integrate well into eclipse/netbeans? <joke>05:30
PatrickDickeyvozeldr: I've used Netbeans with Glassfish for development in college. That seemed to work alright. We didn't get into Tomcat very deeply though.05:30
vozeldri had tried it a while ago but didn't have that debug in... capability so went with jetty and/or glassfish and never tried again05:30
xtrizDr_Willis, from how long you are using linux ?05:30
tozenStrit: well launch it with console and pastebin exhaust, please05:30
vozeldri'm just looking to setup my new workstation as optimally as possible and not having to run 3-4 web servers would definitely go a long way towards that05:31
vozeldrespecially in configuration05:31
Strittozen, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6268295/05:31
Strittozen, ps, danish client. :)05:31
ChogyDanvozeldr: you may want to ask in something like askubuntu or stackoverflow.  I think you can better get those detailed multi-faceted answers05:32
jetroDr_Willis, I used a wired connection to install the driver, all it took was two commands!05:35
jetrothx for the help05:35
jetroany recommendations for antivirus?05:36
wilee-nilee!av05:36
ubottuAntivirus is something you don't need on !Linux. except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus05:36
vozeldrChogyDan: yeah, i'll probably check a few sources but was looking for some direct dialog... i know i'm not unique and not the only person who develops in a ton of different languages05:36
Hundredwhat is a good offline dictionary for ubuntu?05:37
Hundredi;m looking for something like WordWeb for Windows05:37
vozeldri would never tell someone that antivirus is something they don't need05:37
vozeldrif you follow the best practices and only install software from the ubuntu repositories or from trusted sources... and you are a very mild web browser then yeah05:38
xmetalwell sort of true .... on Linux I do not think its needed as much as MS OS's05:38
xmetali agree with the bot's comment05:38
Hundredlinux only has about 1.5% of the computer desktop market heh05:39
vozeldrwell, i've installed a ton of stuff on my linux boxes that i've compiled from source and never looked a single line to confirm it wasn't stealing my bank account information05:39
Hundredsince the support for Windows XP is ending next year, a lightweight Linux distro should be able to get a lot of new users, but not Ubuntu since it it has a higher system requirement than Windows XP05:40
vozeldri'm just saying that it a) depends on your personal habits, b) depends on your technical knowledge and c) depends on the amount of time you have to ensure your machine is secure05:41
BlueSharkHey. The sound setting in always muted - http://i.imgur.com/wTLaLls.png — any idea why? I can't play any music/audio.05:41
wilee-nileeHundred, not a figure that you can actually prove, it is a estimate and wrong05:41
tozenStrit: ?05:41
BlueSharkI checked alsamixer and the sound settings are same as before and auto-mute is disabled. I'm not sure what's causing this..05:41
jonny5aliveI am trying to setup a ubuntu usb install with encrypted persistence. In this tutorial it skip's encrypting the home folder and seems to encrypt the entire drive. I wanted to know, what is the default encrypt method used for your home folders with the desktop install?05:41
wilee-nileeHundred, This is also support not chat.05:42
eossI have a box that's using ubuntu 10.04, and im trying to download something that I can easily download in 120.04 using apt-get, is there a way to make 10.04 download from the same sources as my 120.04 box?05:42
wilee-nileejonny5alive, why would you even bother with that?05:42
jonny5alivewilee: I want to be as safe as possible.05:42
PatrickDickeyjonny5alive: You might look at the backtrack linux site. While their information is geared towards their distro, the distro is based on Ubuntu.05:43
Strittozen, what? I posted it.... http://paste.ubuntu.com/6268295/05:43
zykotick9PatrickDickey: jonny5alive backtrack is dead, it's been replaced by kali.05:43
wilee-nileejonny5alive, a persistent will fill up and can't be cleaned, besides the limitations of the live environment.05:43
jonny5aliveEh, i've ran backtrack not too keen on making that my default OS.05:43
PatrickDickeyjonny5alive: So, you should be able to substitute your ubuntu live CD in place of theirs. Or, you might want to use kali.05:43
BlueSharkHmm, and pacmd list-sinks says 'muted: no'05:43
Hundredjetro try ClamAV its free and opensource, but companies like AVG and Avast make anticirus for linux too i think05:44
PatrickDickeyzykotick9: I know it's a dead distro. But they had the steps up to do exactly what he wants.05:44
jonny5aliveIm currently using TAILS, however since the networking is by default based around TOR, I cannot connect to my vpn first05:44
xmetal!clamAV05:44
zykotick9PatrickDickey: apply those steps in kali.  very similar.05:44
jonny5aliveI was hoping to setup a similar encrypted persistance environment in ubunutu05:44
xmetal(i am guessing)05:44
jonny5alivegiving me network flexibility05:44
xmetalor maybe a search is needed05:44
jetroHundred, thanks! looking into it05:44
xmetalhmm05:44
SchrodingersScat!info clamav | jetro05:44
ubottujetro: clamav (source: clamav): anti-virus utility for Unix - command-line interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97.8+dfsg-1ubuntu4 (saucy), package size 124 kB, installed size 564 kB05:44
xmetalty SchrodingersScat :P05:45
zykotick9!virus05:45
ubottuAntivirus is something you don't need on !Linux. except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus05:45
Hundredhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems05:45
xmetalthats what i was trying to do05:45
* SchrodingersScat whispers, "I know."05:45
jonny5alivetails is really perfect, with the exeption that it forces you to connect to TOR first in everything05:45
SchrodingersScatjonny5alive: does it make a simultaneous connection to i2p? or is that optional?05:46
jonny5aliveoptional05:46
jonny5alivedefault is tor05:46
PatrickDickeyI read (and granted this was in relation to a Mac--not Linux), that you should put an antivirus on anyhow. It's better to have the protection before you need it, then to try and protect yourself after the problem starts.05:46
jonny5aliveSo can someone tell me what type of encryption is used for encrypting the home dir? Is it LUKS?05:47
jmgk?msg nickServ info rocket1605:47
SchrodingersScatPatrickDickey: afaik clamav doesn't autoscan, you could scan everything you download though, sure.  You could make an incron job for your default Download directories.05:48
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PatrickDickey!encryption | jonny5alive05:48
ubottujonny5alive: For information on setting up encrypted private directories (8.10+) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory05:48
vozeldrPatrickDickey: that did remind me of many years back when mac users would say that viruses were for windows... now linux users say that viruses are only for mac and windows05:48
cdrkeenis there anyway I can prevent a process from crashing my system when its at full load?05:49
vozeldrif viruses were not possible on *nix-based systems would there be commercial antivirus applications for mac osx?05:49
SchrodingersScatvozeldr: The larger threat is social engineering, like installing proprietary software, or java05:50
vozeldrof course, we don't care about software installed from the ubuntu repos... it's all the other software05:51
SchrodingersScatvozeldr: not implying that strawman05:52
SchrodingersScatvozeldr: has there been a case of that? outside of debian?05:52
vozeldri was very surprised that the official ubuntu book didn't say anything at all about antivirus05:52
vozeldrall i'm saying is that ubuntu is looking for broader market share then they are also going to get a larger exposure and have to protect the users05:53
jonny5aliveIs my encrypted home partition in any way 'less secure' than having a entire encrypted LVM?05:53
miffedhow can i restore graphics drivers to open source ones from command line?05:53
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Hundredjonny5alive what are you trying to protect from05:55
paulus68_1vozeldr: you are probably right however in order to execute a virus under windows nobody needs to give their approval to execute that virus in your place. under linux in order to execute a program or potantial dangerous program you need the users approval05:55
vozeldror the suid05:56
tsimpsonvozeldr: simply put, there are no known viruses in the wild05:57
vozeldrnothing digital or human is perfect05:57
Hundredsometimes in linux troubleshooting a problem will probably take as much time as dealing with a virus issue on windows lol05:57
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SchrodingersScatvozeldr: I just think of antivirus differently in linux, just like you can't protect from someone getting tricked into running a malicious command as root, AV can only do so much.  If someone did decide to sneak something nasty in the repos I'm not sure how an AV would detect that it's unwanted behavior and kill it...05:58
vozeldrlike i've said... i'm about to buy a new ubuntu system ... i plan on defending it like it's being attacked by things that don't yet exist, that's all05:58
* xmetal nods @ SchrodingersScat 05:58
jonny5aliveWhat I am or am not trying to protect is irrelevant. I am simply trying to maximize security and would like to know the answer.05:58
arunkumar413i need the documentation for ubuntu touch api05:59
cfhowlett!touch|arunkumar413,05:59
ubottuarunkumar413,: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch05:59
Hundredthe reason why BSD claims to be secure is because no one uses that OS and thus no one codes viruses for it lol ...many believe that linux is much more secure than even openBSD, there are websites dedicated to exposing BSD security06:00
vozeldrjonny5alive: what i do is buy antivirus... disable it if you find it hampers your gaming or develpment (since you're unlikely to contract a virus during these anyhow)06:01
jonny5aliveThink you quoted the wrong guy :)06:01
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jonny5aliveSo, ubuntu is telling me that the OS has 'automatically genereated a strong passphrase'06:01
vozeldrsorry06:01
cfhowlettNO system is bulletproof.  You can make yourself crazy "protecting" your system.  My opinion: treat the biggest threat - the idiot located at the interface between the keyboard and display and most problems will be solved.06:01
jonny5aliveregarding my encrypted home dir06:01
paulus68_1vozeldr: antivirus under linux is free06:02
Hundredjonny5alive if you consider security enhancing your privacy, you really should not be using Ubuntu as it logs your habits with software like Zeitgeist and even sends keywords data to places like Amazon to target ADs to you, you can search the internet about this stuff06:02
jonny5aliveah, really good info, thanks hundred06:02
cfhowlettHundred, FUD ...06:02
vozeldrboo06:02
voozeDoes anyone know of some cool RED folder icons.. Like maybe Faenza in red? I only need the folder icons (like home, documents etc.) ?? :)06:02
vozeldrdon't listen to Hundred06:03
jonny5aliveI am looking for a alternative to TAILS06:03
jonny5aliveoh, haha, okay06:03
vozeldrthat can be turned off06:03
jonny5aliveAnyways, i just looked at the 'random generated passphrase' the OS made for me06:03
jonny5aliveit sucks and its weak06:03
cfhowlettjonny5alive, so make another..06:03
Hundredjonny5alive are you experienced with linux? if so, try out Debian, if you are new to linux try out Linux Mint06:03
jonny5aliveI tried debian06:04
vozeldrso is Hundred, jonny5alive and vooze the same person?06:04
jonny5alivego ahead and google using a encrypted persistence06:04
jonny5aliveit is not possible in debian06:04
voozevozeldr: ehm.. what06:04
jonny5alivewhich is why i choose ubuntu06:04
cxdb5i ran an apt-get command to download and install a newer kernel from debian and now when i restart the computer grub doesn't show linux, only windows... any idea how to fix this? i'm at the grub command prompt06:04
jonny5aliveor, by 'not possible' it seems even the smart people struggle with it, and I am not one of them.06:04
cfhowlettcxdb5, update grub06:04
cfhowlettcxdb5, sudo update grub06:05
Hundredjonny5alive so you are looking for a USB OS?06:05
cxdb5sudo doesn't work in the grub prompt06:05
cfhowlettcxdb5, you're right.  to recover boot your ubuntu usb and then fix06:06
cfhowlett!grub06:06
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub206:06
cxdb5is there any way to do this without the cd/usb? i don't have it :(06:06
cfhowlettcxdb5, always keep one ready ...06:07
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cfhowlettsee the link.  MAYBE you can fix via commandline06:07
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Hundredjonny5alive anyone Ubuntu based distro should be good, as long as it is not using the Unity DE06:09
jonny5aliveYes, USB OS. With encrypted persistence.06:09
cfhowlett!who06:09
ubottuAs you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)06:09
JMichaelXmoc is broken in saucy??06:10
Dr_Willishmm. why would you need an encrypted persistance fikle. when you could setup and encrypt just the home. but i guess it depends on how paranoid you want to be.06:11
JMichaelX:-(06:11
cfhowlett!details|JMichaelX,06:11
ubottuJMichaelX,: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."06:11
Hundredjonny5alive but you can probablt just install any linux distro to a USB06:11
Dr_Willisbbl06:11
jonny5aliveHundred: I appreciate the offered help, but it does not seem to help much.06:11
Hundredjust direct the install to the USB drive instead of the computer hdd06:11
* JMichaelX puts ubottu on ignore06:11
jonny5aliveIm just going to redo this install with a full encrypted LVM06:11
jonny5alivethanks guys.06:11
xmetalgood grief06:12
JMichaelXcfhowlett: i'm getting a segfault on two machines when attempting to use moc. i think it is a known issue, but one i just discovered on my boxes.06:12
JMichaelXcfhowlett: this problem may or may not be restricted to 64-bit systems06:13
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TheRavenHello Ubuntu users!06:13
cfhowlettJMichaelX, ask again with full details.  GTG - sorry06:13
cdrkeensup I'm trying to run a simple game Counter-Strike on Steam for linux.... and it freezes after 10 minutes of running around06:14
JMichaelXcdrkeen: your just not cool enough to ask questions in this channel.06:14
cdrkeenJMichaelX, ahh.06:15
JMichaelXoh, hi cdrkeen06:15
cdrkeenI'll go back to googling then06:15
JMichaelXlol06:15
JMichaelXcdrkeen: do you know of moc, or ever use it?06:15
cdrkeenwat06:16
Romancehow do i mount android phone (motorola atrix 2), ubuntu 12.04 , already installed mtpfs and mtp-tools, followed the tutorial but when i do mtp-detect , no raw devies found06:16
Romancedevices*06:16
TheRavencdrkeen - You could also run Country Strike from Terminal, and when it freezes, check the logs?06:16
tozenDr_Willis: here is what i found tohow to resize vbox image: VBoxManage modifyhd ~/soft/winxp/winxp.vdi --resize 10050 (That will resize a virtual disk image to 10GB)06:16
cdrkeenthat works06:16
HundredRomance did you set as "drive/disk" on the phone instead of charging?06:17
JMichaelXcdrkeen: it's an awesome console music player... it is segfaulting. i need to figure out how to compile it, so that it works again... otherwise i will be pouting until it gets fixed06:17
RomanceHundred, i followed exactly as the tutorial, set MTP06:17
RomanceHundred, http://www.mysolutions.it/mounting-your-mtp-androids-sd-card-on-ubuntu/06:18
TheRavenAnyone on 13.10?06:18
TheRavenIm on 12.04 (Elementary OS and Ubuntu Dual boot), wanting to know if there are any new benefits from 13.1006:18
cdrkeenlol06:19
RomanceTheRaven, consider the 6 months cycle distro as "testing" before the LTS release06:19
Romanceits buggy for most and works charming for some06:20
xmetalwether Ubuntu or the OS i use (not going to go OT here), i am waiting for the next release before i'd upgrade06:20
xmetalboth OS's are releasing LTS versions in april/may06:20
TheRavenYeah, i am waiting for the 14.04 LTS. I prefer to run the two OS's at the same version, instead of one higher and one lower.06:20
TheRavenSo would you all recommend just hold out till April for the 14.04 LTS release? as 12.04 is supported for another 2 years correct?06:20
RomanceTheRaven, hold your horse06:21
geniiTheRaven: Frankly you're probably better off to stick with Precise and then later go to 14.04 after waiting a couple weeks from release to make sure no glaring huge bugs.issues06:21
RomanceTheRaven, but its recommended for you to try out 13.10 and looks if that fit your hardware if theres problem report it06:21
s-haha-ndoes 13.10 have a ufw? or some kind of firewall?06:21
sam113101I think I might go back to 13.0406:21
xmetalgood point, gen... thats what i do06:22
xmetalwiat for "everyone e3lse to find the glaring bugs"06:22
xmetal:P06:22
TheRavenHmm thanks Romance and genii, i have a UX31A Asus Zenbook Prime, and its rather good with Linux, but once i get it setup i hate changing. I will attempt a 13.10 install on it and see how it goes, and take it from there.06:22
TheRavenI just use this as a production machine and would hate to blow away my OS and then have to re-image it back if something goes wrong.06:22
PatrickDickeyTheRaven: I was just going to suggest making an image before you do the upgrade. Just in case something does happen.06:23
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CarsekyxWould you guys recommend going with a LTS version for a first time user?06:24
TheRavenCarsekyx, i would recommend it yes, as the LTS versions seem to be less buggy. If you are a first time user, you want an experience that is flawless, which the latest releases may not provide based on the hardware its running on06:25
CarsekyxYeah okay I think I might downgrade06:26
PatrickDickeyCarsekyx: If you're not having problems, I wouldn't downgrade. And depending on the problems you're having, you might not want to either.06:27
CarsekyxA series of unfortunate events led to my windows partition getting wiped so I'm ubuntu-ing for a bit until I get win disks back. I'm using 13.10 but having a bunch of trouble with dual monitor support06:27
Carsekyxand any guides I find online about it result in needing to reinstall the OS06:28
PatrickDickeywhat issues are you having with dual monitors? And which graphics card do you have?06:29
CarsekyxI've got a toshiba satellite which has intel graphics + nvidia card and the nvidia card won't turn on06:29
CarsekyxI also can't modify brightness or resolution06:29
CarsekyxPatrickDickey, ^06:29
Hundredso are all ubuntu releases except for LTS only going to have 9 months support now?06:31
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Hundredmost people probably won't install an OS with less than 1 full year support, so i guess Ubuntu will only really be focusing on LTS releases06:34
geniiHundred: Yes, they do not even ship interim release CD/DVD to LoCos any more, just LTS06:35
Hundredthen they should just support it for only 6 months06:36
aeon-ltdyou upgrade the os then you get more support06:36
aeon-ltdthat's the idea06:36
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aeon-ltdthe requirements aren't exactly high06:36
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Hatter13Anyone know how to write scripts for rtmpdump on linux? I have a wndows script that i cant figure out how to modiy or write a new one to get it to work on linux06:36
Hundredaeon-ltd so if you use an OS for 9 months, would you use the unsupported OS for 3 months waiting for the new release, or install the older version which will only be support for 6 months? lol06:39
Hundredwho is making decisions at Ubuntu now-a-days? lol06:40
Hundredthey should probably just release 1 version every year on "Ubuntu Day" with a full 12 year support with every other year being LTS06:42
aeon-ltdHundred: you do know there is a release every 6 months right?06:42
Hundred12 month*06:42
ssj5gokui wanted to install winows 8 throug live usb...can anone tell me which software to use..06:43
tozenHundred: :D 12 years...06:43
fatalfluxHello everybody :) I've got a quick question:06:43
fatalfluxwhy doesn't (block count * block size) from dumpe2fs match what I see in system monitor's file systems tab?06:43
CarsekyxI guess my next question. Is there any easy/recommended way to downgrade to 12.04 from 13.10?06:44
tozenCarsekyx: no06:44
aeon-ltddon't downgrade06:44
aeon-ltdunless you want to kill your install06:44
Hundredaeon-ltd yes, think about it, after 9 months you have a choice of using the older support release which will only be for 6 months since support is only 9 months long, or you use the version for 3 months unsupported until the new release06:45
ssj5gokuanyone pls answer my question06:45
Carsekyxaeon-ltd, It's going to happen whether I wipe or what06:45
Carsekyxjust wanted to see if there was a recommended way06:45
Ben64Hundred: 6 months is less time than 9 months, you don't make any sense06:45
aeon-ltdHundred: or you upgrade every 6 months like they want you to06:46
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Ben64Carsekyx: why not wait the 2 months an upgrade to 14.04 alpha?06:46
aeon-ltdHundred: think of it as 6+3 not 9, 6 months to release, 3 months support before rolling over06:46
CarsekyxBen64, because I like my machines to work how I expect them to work and if 12.04 has better support for the stuff I need it'll be the way to go06:46
Ben64Carsekyx: 12.04 has _less_ support for dual gpu systems06:47
aeon-ltdssj5goku: ask in a windows channel06:47
CarsekyxBen64, perhaps you could help me solve my problem then?06:47
Ben64Carsekyx: someone here probably can06:48
HundredBen64 if the releases are only supported for 9 months and releases are every 6 months, then when you reach the 9th month period you either wait 3 months unsupported for the new release or install an older release which will only be supported for 6 months06:48
ssj5gokuis there a windows channel06:48
Ben64Hundred: you're not getting it...  after 6 months theres a new release, you can upgrade to it06:48
fatalfluxssj5goku: windows usually doesn't like being run from an external device unless you're using Windows To Go06:49
aeon-ltdssj5goku: ##windows06:49
fatalfluxgetting around that is pretty difficult06:49
helmut_hi06:49
aeon-ltdHundred: if you were going to 'ride' the support to the end use the LTS version06:49
aeon-ltdyou don't hve to wait for support to end06:49
fatalfluxnow does anybody have an idea about my question regarding filesystem size? :)06:50
Hundredpeople have been using Windows XP for years, most people would not bother installing a new release every 6 months06:50
Ben64Hundred: and thats why we have LTS...06:50
Ben64instead of a 3 month period where you have to upgrade or lose support ..... LTS you get a 3 year period06:51
Hundredthen the 9 month release is should be 6 months if the intention is for it to be a "Testing" release06:51
IdleOneAll very interesting, not on topic for this channel though.06:51
wilee-nileefatalflux, a rather vague question amounts would probably help.06:51
PatrickDickeyIsn't it a five year for LTS now?06:51
Hundredwhy waste 3 months support on a "testing" release twice a year06:52
Ben64yes PatrickDickey06:52
Ben64Hundred: its not testing and its not 3 months, its 9 months06:52
fatalfluxwilee-nilee: Block count: 27530000, Block size: 4096. so that's a total size of 112.8 GB right? Yet the filesystems tab on system monitor says the total size is 110.9 GB06:53
Ben64might be measuring file sizes instead of physical space taken06:54
halpmy friend told me that ubuntu has back doors on purpose to let the cia look at your PC06:55
Ben64halp: very wrong, and not on topic here06:55
fatalfluxthe reason I ask is because I need to reduce the LV to match the filesystem. Instinct says to resize it to what dumpe2fs says, just wanted to double check.06:55
HundredBen64 if the intention is for most people to use LTS, then why waste developers' time 6 months of the year supporting "testing" versions06:56
rex123456http://askubuntu.com/questions/361332/ubuntu-13-04-to-13-10-filesystem-check-or-mount-failed/362268#36226806:56
wilee-nileefatalflux, gigs get counted as 1024 and 1000MB depending on who or whats doing it basically.06:57
rex123456anyone can help?06:57
wilee-nileefatalflux, So the bits are different.06:57
fatalfluxwilee-nilee: yeah i was thinking it might be a 1000/1024 issue, but the numbers dont match for that to be it, but i'll check again06:57
Ben64Hundred: i'm done repeating myself, just read this. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS06:57
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aeon-ltdHundred: there are no testing versions but unreleased stuff, every 6 months an OFFICIAL release is done06:59
fatalfluxwilee-nilee: see system monitor says 110.9GB but if you take that to mean GiB you get 119, which doesn't match the block count/size06:59
aeon-ltdrex123456: ask your question06:59
wilee-nileefatalflux, I think its just a matter of not really accurate counting to be honest, not on your part but the softwares07:00
fatalfluxwilee-nilee: yeah probably. i think i'll just go with block count * size since that seems probably most accurate. just wanted to float the question to see if i was missing something obvious07:01
fatalfluxthanks for the help all :)07:01
rex123456i having the issue same as http://askubuntu.com/questions/361332/ubuntu-13-04-to-13-10-filesystem-check-or-mount-failed/362268#362268 anyone can help?07:05
wilee-nileerex123456, Can you access the partitions from a live cd?07:07
MorrowindFanQuick question, can I have seperate settings for my mouse and touchpad?07:08
Dr_WillisMorrowindFan:  i notice on xubuntu 13.10 i an07:08
Dr_Williscan07:08
jmgkhi Dr_Willis07:09
Dr_Williswas just setting my touchpads speeds differntly then the mouse speeds07:09
natsuHello. Im new to programing. Im learning C++ Python and Now Java. I was wandering if there was a good programming tool I could use that would compile all the programs for me.07:09
Dr_Willismoo jmgk07:09
jmgklol07:09
Dr_Willis!info geany | natsu07:09
ubottunatsu: geany (source: geany): fast and lightweight IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.23.1+dfsg-1 (saucy), package size 1045 kB, installed size 2542 kB07:09
MorrowindFanI'm on Lubuntu 13.10. What I was looking for is moreof a way to have the trackpad buttons switched (right as primary left as secondary) and my mouse as normal07:10
mikolajis "super" the windows logo key?07:10
natsuOk Thanks. Now for Java how would I view the programs Becuase I want to build games07:10
jmgkhi natsu07:10
CrashedUpdategoodmorning. During the update from 13.04 to 13.10 my comp. crashed. I managed to copy the homedirectory to an external HD. Are there any other directories that might contain personal files?07:10
natsuPS im on Ubuntu 13.1007:10
wilee-nileemikolaj, yep07:10
natsuHI jmgk07:10
SoItBeginsI'm having trouble with... I am on a MacBook Pro (4,1), using GNOME and Ubuntu 12.10. Whenever I use one of the media keys (brightness up/down, volume up/down) not only does the requested change NOT happen, gnome-setting-daemon's CPU usage goes up to 100% and stays there.07:10
mikolajwhat is then hyper?07:10
jmgkreply07:10
SoItBegins(Note that I uninstalled Unity and all its parts)07:10
jmgkhm07:10
Hundrednatsu i want to play your games :)07:10
Dr_Willisview the programs? what do you mean natsu ..  You write the code. and the ide has menus to compile/run the code07:10
wilee-nileeSoItBegins, really I doubt that.07:11
natsuWell I meant for Java. Like how can I test the games I make07:11
natsuy07:11
jmgknatsu,  uo gt msg07:11
jmgk:P07:11
SoItBeginsOK, most of its parts. Everything not depended on by the rest of the system. But I did remove most of the Unity desktop.07:11
Dr_Willisyou run the app.07:11
eph3meralhow can I get my VPN to not block the rest of my internet?07:11
mikolajI used super+space to assign that combo to switch keyboard langugages07:12
mikolajthe combo says it's mod4+super+hyper+space07:12
aeon-ltdmikolaj: alt?07:12
paulhi all07:12
wilee-nileeSoItBegins, Why, there is a gnome only release07:13
jmgkgreetings paul07:13
paulI'm using ubuntu 13.10 and I've lost my unity menu07:13
CarsekyxI've been looking through this and I don't have a switch file (on 13.10) wat do? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics07:13
aeon-ltdmikolaj: unless ^ = hyper then it's ctrl iirc07:13
paulcan someone please help me get it back.07:13
wilee-nileepaul, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/reset-unity-and-compiz-in-ubuntu-13-10/07:13
SoItBeginswilee-nilee: I had the normal release installed already. But that's not exactly the point here. The point is about gnome-settings-daemon freezing.07:14
mikolajaeon-ltd, but the combo I used to assign the key is not working, which is why i'm confused07:14
aeon-ltdmikolaj: the last i assigned stuff, i think mod4 was my win key07:14
wilee-nileeSoItBegins, Problem I see is you have hacked around with it, I suspect not really knowing what your doing, so details probably will really help is all, we have all done this at one time.07:14
SoItBeginsOK, so I followed this guide to remove Unity:07:15
VivekI would like to join #ubuntu-beginners-dev, I am getting a message that the channel is full. Please help.07:15
VivekThanks  in advance.07:15
CrashedUpdateanybody? What other folders do i need to backup besides home to not lose any personal files?07:15
wilee-nileeSoItBegins, And this guide was put out by say canonical?07:15
SoItBeginsNo07:15
Dr_WillisCrashedUpdate:  as far as i know all the users personal files are in their home.07:16
wilee-nileeor the gnome developers07:16
SoItBeginsThis guide07:16
SoItBeginshttp://blogs.operationaldynamics.com/paul/opensource/not-unifed-in-12-10-the-quickening07:16
SoItBeginsI performed the apt-get removal commands listed07:16
CrashedUpdateVivek, a full channel means exactly that. Wait till another user leaves or the channel limit is raised07:16
Dr_WillisCrashedUpdate:  unless they put some tempary files in /tmp/ or some other filesystem on the system07:16
paulthank you07:16
wilee-nileeSoItBegins, ppa's are not supported here and that is some guys ideas, not really legit her within this framework.07:17
CrashedUpdateDr_Willis, but temporay files would be something like unsafed documents or something like that?07:17
Dr_WillisCrashedUpdate:  anything that an app may store in /tmp.07:17
SoItBeginser, nonono, not those.07:17
SoItBeginsI installed gnome through the package manager.07:17
SoItBeginsThe commands I ran were these:07:17
Dr_WillisCrashedUpdate:  for me - its mainly a work area for dvd remastering and so forth. so no need to back it up ;)07:17
SoItBegins# apt-get --yes purge unity07:18
SoItBegins# apt-get --yes purge unity-asset-pool unity-services07:18
SoItBegins# apt-get --yes purge unity-lens-* unity-scope-* ubuntu-webapps-*07:18
SoItBegins# apt-get --yes purge unity-common07:18
SoItBegins# apt-get --yes purge libunity-misc4 libunity-core-6* libunity-webapps*07:18
FloodBot1SoItBegins: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.07:18
SoItBegins# apt-get --yes purge gir1.2-unity-*07:18
VivekCrashedUpdate: Can't some one here, relay a message on my behalf to the ops there ?07:18
wilee-nileeSoItBegins, probably all fixable but you are asking a lot to get help is all, it may take awhile, and this is on a apple computer.07:18
CrashedUpdateI'll check it out, and after that it's time for a squeeky clean install of 13.1007:18
Dr_WillisVivek:  theres #ubuntu-ops07:18
CrashedUpdate^^07:18
VivekDr_Willis: Thanks07:18
SoItBeginsAll I'd like is for my media keys to work. The remainder of my system is working fine.07:18
Dr_WillisVivek:  and if the channel were under 'attack' or being spammed to death - the07:18
rex123456wilee-nilee : yes07:18
Dr_Willisy may limit it07:18
natsuOk thanks guys. I downloaded Geany. Now im still new to C++ is there a site or somtheing that can help teach me better07:19
rex123456i run fsck /dev/sda207:19
rex123456all was alright07:19
Dr_Willisnatsu:  hit up delicious.com  and see what people have bookmarked most for C++ tutorials  perhaps07:19
DaughainHas anyone here heard of, and /or used Ubuntu Satanic?07:19
CrashedUpdateDr_Willis, tmp appears to be clean/not containing anything. Thanks for your help!07:19
Dr_WillisDaughain:  it was a silly gimmiic when it came out years ago.. and is not really worth mentioning..07:20
auronandaceDaughain: not supported here07:20
natsuThanks Dr Willis Will look at it now07:20
Dr_WillisDaughain:  ranks up there with 'Hanna Montanna Linux'07:20
wilee-nileerex123456, You might consider just pulling out what you need, then checking that the HD is okay and just reinstalling, trying to fix a system you have only just linked to another that you think is similar is stretching this a bit, is all.07:20
* xmetal thinks "did Dr just say that?" and re-reads that 07:21
Dr_Willisxmetal:  yes.. it did exist. ;)07:21
DaughainThat truly scares me...07:21
xmetallol07:21
xmetalwell ... you learn something new everyday07:22
Dr_Willisfound a huge stack of old Linux cd's the other day. ;)07:22
DaughainAnd, sometimes you were better off being ignorant.....?? =)07:22
wilee-nileeright between ubuntu satanic and mint07:22
jmgkDr_Willis,  whats Hannah Montana linux?07:22
Dr_Willisjmgk:  ubuntu with a Pink theme.07:22
rex123456wilee-nilee , so no solutions for this?07:22
natsuIve never heard of hannah montah linux07:23
jmgkoh lol07:23
SoItBeginsDr_Willis: Insert twerking joke here.07:23
jmgkSoItBegins,  hahah07:23
Dr_WillisSoItBegins:  i dont even know what that term means.. ;)07:23
jmgkoh come on Dr_Willis07:23
jmgk:)07:23
wilee-nileerex123456, You would have to have some details not a link to something you think is similar, a waste of time time wise really.07:23
jmgktwerkin07:23
bazhangjmgk, stay on topic07:23
jmgksorry bazhang  someone else brought it up not me07:24
DaughainOk, looks like a fresh install in my near future....07:24
wilee-nileerex123456, Can it be fixed and is surely fixed hard to say really, no real description, the best you could of done was to image/clone the original to just pop back in.07:24
SoItBeginsSo, wilee-nilee, any thoughts about my issue?07:25
wilee-nileeSoItBegins, Not really, if I did I would help.07:25
SoItBeginsOK, thanks.07:25
xmetalbetter then a Miley Cirus version07:25
rex123456wilee-nilee, hm... alright. backup and reinstall will be faster07:25
rex123456thanks07:26
xmetalw/e @ the spelling07:26
xmetal:P07:26
bazhang!ot > xmetal07:26
ubottuxmetal, please see my private message07:26
wilee-nileerex123456, NO problem, thats the easiest to make sure you have a good setup.07:26
xmetallol oh geez07:27
subby123_i know this is ubuntu channel but pls if anyone knows this pls tell me......i m using a samsung galaxy grand... i have updated it to android 4.2.2 jelly bean ... i cant figure out why my dlna is crashing in my music player when i try to remotely control my pc through windows media player... it just shows a message "unfortunately your music player has stopped" ....pls help07:27
DaughainDoes 13.10 come in an x86 flavor?07:27
Dr_Willissubby123_:  theres #android07:28
bazhangsubby123_, #android07:28
wilee-nileeDaughain, 32 bit?07:28
bazhangDaughain, yes of course07:28
DaughainThat too.07:28
auronandacesubby123_: seriously, don't post here when you know it has nothing to do with ubuntu07:28
subby123_i know theres #android but they got nothng07:30
bazhangsubby123_, its ot here07:30
auronandacesubby123_: that doesn't make this channel an android help channel07:30
subby123_auronandace: will u just shut up...07:31
auronandace!guidelines | subby123_07:31
ubottusubby123_: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines07:31
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jmgkDr_Willis,  WIll Ubutu have an mobile version ?07:41
auronandace!touch | jmgk07:41
ubottujmgk: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch07:41
jmgkoh wait07:41
jmgkno my bad07:41
jmgkWill Xchat have a mobile version07:41
Dr_Willisjmgk:  it allready does.07:41
jmgk?07:41
Dr_Willisxchat. no idea07:41
jmgkno soah07:41
jmgkwell I mean do you see IRC on a the desktop better than on a a phone ?07:42
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auronandacejmgk: define better07:42
Dr_WillisI irc from my android phone with andchat, or a ssh terminal app - using weechat on my pc.07:42
jmgkwell I mean more accurate07:42
jmgkthe screens very bad on the eye for a mobile phone07:42
auronandacejmgk: there is more screen real estate on a desktop so you can see more text07:42
Dr_Willisi have very few issues ircing from my phone07:42
jmgkok07:43
Dr_Willisa bluetooth or external keyboard is a must have ;)07:43
jmgkwell Dr_Willis  I have a computer so...07:43
LuvLinuxOSHi all07:43
jmgkI don't need that07:43
LuvLinuxOSI just blogged about Lubuntu 13.10 Please let me know what you think http://luvlinuxos.blogspot.com/07:43
jmgkthanks LuvLinuxOS07:44
auronandaceLuvLinuxOS: please no advertising here07:44
Dr_Willisjmgk:  my phone and keyboard both fit in a pocket07:44
jmgkso?07:44
jmgkA computer is nicer07:44
tozenauronandace: click hunter ;)07:44
jmgkits what i grew up on :)07:44
jmgkPhones are good for things07:45
Dr_Willisjmgk:  try pen and paper... much nicer still.07:45
jmgknot everything07:45
FloodBot1jmgk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.07:45
tozenim on jailbreaken iphone irssi07:45
jmgkeh all rite Dr_Willis  I just prefer the good ol IRC07:45
Dr_Willisi recall mini-dos pc's in the 80's that fit in a pocket. ;)07:45
tozenDr_Willis: spoton ;)07:46
Dr_Willisweechat has a gui front end for android that connects to weechat running on your pc.07:46
Dr_Willisrunning znc on your ubuntu box is also a handy ting to do to make ircing from a phone nicer07:46
jmgkhm yes07:46
jmgkbut that drains battery life07:46
tozenDr_Willis: proper dux fun hates ani GUIs lol07:46
jmgkI don't need to run Ubuntu while making a phone call07:46
jmgkIRC07:47
sam113101k1l: you're there?07:47
tozen*any07:47
Dr_Williseverythinjg drains battery life...07:47
Dr_Willisthats life07:47
xmetali (on the distro i use) installed weechat (i think thats it) but even after clicking the icon, nothing would happen07:48
Dr_Willisxmetal:  run it from a terminal. I dont recall weechat haveing an icon here07:48
xmetali am happy on hexchat or xchat (hex being a clone of x) though07:48
Dr_Willisweechat is a text/terminal based irc client07:48
xmetaljust wanted to give it a try07:48
xmetalah ha... maybe that was my issue07:48
xmetallol07:48
xmetalwoops07:48
l9irssi07:48
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Dr_Willisif you want to try weechat. you WILL want to read its beginner/starter guides07:49
tozen4me irssi is the best of all clients gals!07:49
xmetaleh .. i am happy with xchat07:50
xmetal:)07:50
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Dr_Willisi find weechat better then irssi07:50
tozenDr_Willis: why?07:50
l9?07:50
LuvLinuxOSauronandace:  not advertising just spreading the word about the movement, sorry if you were offended!!!07:50
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Dr_Willistozen:  smart filters, script manager,  better scripting support, toggable filters,07:51
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Dr_Willisbetter default setup07:51
auronandaceLuvLinuxOS: i'm not offended but this is a support channel, you don't post blogs here07:51
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l9Dr_Willis: how much scripts are needed with irc?07:51
xmetal!find weechat | xmetal07:51
ubottuxmetal: Found: weechat, weechat-core, weechat-curses, weechat-dbg, weechat-dev07:51
Dr_Willis19 depends on your needs07:51
xmetaloops07:51
xmetal!info weechat | xmetal07:51
ubottuxmetal: weechat (source: weechat): Fast, light and extensible chat client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.1-2 (saucy), package size 1 kB, installed size 31 kB07:51
Dr_Willisweechat has what amounts to a 'package manager' like commands for manageing scripts07:52
Dr_Williswith a text based gui even. ;) ncurses rules.07:52
tozenDr_Willis: i dont know mayhap you have to use smth special.. 4me is enought with only one plugin bitlbee to get out of irc ;)07:52
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icerootis there a way to use something like a "trim-function" on all text-contents i am putting in my buffer (ctrl +v) so that all whitespaces at the start and end will be removed?07:53
Dr_Willisi dont use bitlbee but with the weechat /script command i can search for bitlbee scripts for weechat and instgall them and never leave the client07:53
icerootctrl +c of course to put it in the buffer07:53
xmetalnow i am curious again07:53
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tozenDr_Willis:  good so we can get the balance in the Universe preffering opposite stuffs.. ;)07:54
tozen*prefering07:54
Dr_Willisweechat also has a qtfront end. but ive not used that.07:55
Dr_Willis!fixapt > dr_willis07:57
ubottuDr_Willis, please see my private message07:57
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tozen!fixapt > tozen08:00
ubottutozen, please see my private message08:00
Waynohi im having a issue with webmin iptbales its setting the deafult dir to /var/lib/iptables/active how to fix it so it to default /etc/iptbales.up.rules?08:02
auronandace!webmin | Wayno08:02
ubottuWayno: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system.08:02
WirelessBoundI have an Intel Wireless 7260 wireless card in a Yoga 2 laptop, meaning no wired connectivity is possible.  Post-installation, is adding the firmware for the wireless card as simple as dumping it into the /lib/firmware directory or are there additional steps I am missing?08:03
Waynohmm i using it on 4 system 12.04.4 and works fine, just this machine is being really odd about it08:04
Waynosystems*08:04
auronandaceWayno: if you are having a problem with webmin we can't help, this channel doesn't support it08:05
auronandaceWayno: you could use an alternative08:05
auronandace!zentyal | Wayno08:05
ubottuWayno: zentyal is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zentyal (Project formally known as eBox - including in Lucid/10.04).08:05
Waynothanks08:05
Dr_Willisone of the main issues with webmin is it dosent always handle config files properly. You could also search out the webmin support channels08:06
Waynobeen searching for hrs already, not sure why this box is playing up08:06
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ubuntunewbieCan someone help me with 13.10 upgrade08:09
Dr_Willisif its saveing files in the same format. you might just need to put in some sort of link to the right place. but if the formats are not the same..  that may be bad..08:09
ubuntunewbieThe X is crashing08:09
ubuntunewbieI can login to the terminal though08:09
Dr_Willisubuntunewbie:  the login screen  works or not?08:09
Dr_Willisthe graphical login screen i mean08:10
ubuntunewbieDr_Willis: No. upon boot I get a "Error has occured, Report problem" dialog08:10
ubuntunewbiethe cursor is like 'X' at this stage08:10
Dr_Willisubuntunewbie: so X is sort of starting.08:11
ubuntunewbienothing happens after I click either buttons08:11
ubuntunewbieI can login to command line terminals 1-6 though08:11
ubuntunewbieIs there a way I can reinstall X from command line / repair ?08:12
Dr_Willisubuntunewbie:  most likely its a video driver issue08:13
Dr_Willisbut you havent mentiooned what your video card is yet. ;)08:13
ubuntunewbieDr_Willis:  Its a dell inspiron laptop, Its been ages since I had video driver issues. been using / upgrading every ubuntu release since 10.0408:14
benishorhi there. after upgrading to 13.10 (from 13.04), indicator-session icon is missing, http://hq.scene.ro/session-indicator-missing-icon.png08:14
benishorcan anybody help restoring it?08:14
Dr_Willisubuntunewbie:   what video chipset its using would be a very importnat bit of info to have. lspci command will show you that.08:14
benishorI tried to purge session-indicator and reinstall it but to no avail08:14
Dr_Willisubuntunewbie:  if a live cd for 13.10 works. it may be easier to just do a clean install08:15
ubuntunewbieLIVE CD works, but I am just lazy to setup the whole thing again08:15
WulfHello08:15
tozenubuntunewbie: to install/reinstall xorg u can use sudo apt-get install xorg xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core08:15
ubuntunewbietozen: thanks, will try now08:16
Wulfhow can I activate "suspend if idle for 1 hour" for all users? Is there a configuration file? Or a command I can execute?08:16
tozenubuntunewbie: to install/reinstall xorg u can use sudo apt-get install  --reinstall xorg xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core08:16
tozenubuntunewbie: also mayhap some modules crashed so u can check exhaust of cat /var/log/boot.log as example08:19
ubuntunewbietozen: have reinstalled and rebooting now. will check if its still the same08:20
tozenWulf: what about?08:22
sam113101Dr_Willis: help me08:23
bazhangsam113101, ask the channel08:23
tozenbazhang: :)08:23
Wulftozen: ?08:23
Dr_Willissam113101:  with?08:24
sam113101Dr_Willis: that: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/154058855/Screenshot from 2013-10-17 19:29:30.png08:24
Dr_Williscare to give a small summary of the issue befor i go looking at images?08:25
sam113101why?08:25
tozensmartboyhw: corrupt link08:25
Dr_Willisguess i wont bother going to look at the image then.08:25
bazhang!here | sam11310108:25
ubottusam113101: Please give at least an overview of your problem *here* (all in one line) - you will get a much greater audience. If you have to use more than 3 lines, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com08:25
sam113101the top bar is black but it should be beige08:25
smartboyhwtozen: what?08:25
bazhangsam113101, so change the theme08:26
sam113101it's as if both themes were in use08:26
tozensam113101: link is corrupted08:26
sam113101just replace spaces08:26
bazhangsam113101, change to a third one, then back to the first08:26
sam113101bazhang: doesn't work08:26
Dr_Willisor reset all the user settings back to defaults perhaps.08:26
smartboyhwtozen: please stop annoying us.08:26
tozensmartboyhw: sorry my mistake08:26
sam113101Dr_Willis: doesn't work08:26
xrfangmy 13.10 is missing mp3 and spark video decoder, it just told me so, but didn't attempt to install automatically, why?08:26
bazhangsam113101, create a guest user08:26
benishorI found the problem: system-devices-panel* icons that are being refered by indicator-session's service.c, are not available in the default icon theme. weird08:26
Dr_Willissam113101:  prove it. make a new user. see if they have the same issue08:27
bazhang!work | sam11310108:27
ubottusam113101: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.08:27
sam113101bazhang: I did and the same thing happens08:27
sam113101it's random08:27
sam113101it doesn't *always* happen08:27
bazhangfile a bug then sam11310108:27
sam113101if I log out and log back in it's alright08:27
bazhang!bugs | sam11310108:27
ubottusam113101: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.08:27
sam113101but I already did08:27
sam113101no one wants to help me08:27
Dr_Willisperhaps no one knows why its doing it08:27
bazhangsam113101, so wait and follow it up, be patient too08:27
sam113101;_;08:28
tozensmartboyhw: doing tipe mistake isnt annoing smbd ive appologised to u already, calm down pal ;)08:28
sam113101I opened 3 bugs report but I think it's really just the same bug08:28
sam113101because they happen at the same time08:28
ubuntunewbietozen: didn't help reinstalling. the log says automatic crash report generation after GNOME Display Manager08:28
smartboyhwtozen: My message was sent before you sent your apologies:P08:28
bazhangsmartboyhw, move on08:28
sam113101could it be a problem with my graphic card driver?08:29
Dr_Willissam113101:  very possible08:29
sam113101I'd like to have an error message or something08:29
sam113101but I have nothing08:29
sam113101can I relaunch the interface inside a terminal?08:30
Dr_Willisunity has graphical glitzs on my nvidia5500 that makes it basically unuseable. and the open source drivers are very slow08:30
bazhangsam113101, you've given us zero details. there is nothing to troubleshoot08:30
Triple15_http://pastebin.com/23T3B3sS08:30
sam113101it was working fine on 13.0408:30
Dr_Willissam113101:  compiz --replace       perhaps.08:30
Triple15_i need help08:30
Dr_WillisTriple15_:  and the issue is?08:30
Triple15_ich brauche hilfe08:30
sam113101bazhang: I did give details08:30
WulfTriple15_: ask your question, Kraut!08:31
bazhangsam113101, give us the *exact* theme names. the list of things you have tried. Pastebins of exact commands and pastebins of the errors08:31
tozenubuntunewbie: so pastebin <cat /var/log/boot.log | less> please08:31
sam113101bazhang: radiance and ambiance08:32
Rory!de | Triple15_08:32
ubottuTriple15_: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!08:32
sam113101I tried creating a new user08:32
sam113101I tried reinstalling08:32
bazhangsam113101, all on ONE line08:32
Triple15_ok danke08:32
sam113101I tried changing the theme08:32
Dr_Willisif a new user has the same issue - that would point to a system wide problem. such as driver, or currupted configs08:33
sam113101but I did reinstall08:33
sam113101how can it be a corrupted config?08:33
Dr_Willisreinstall meaning  what exactly08:33
Dr_Willisa total reformat  clean install? or reinstgalled some packages08:34
sam113101I deleted partitions, created new ones and installed ubuntu on the new ones08:35
tozenubuntunewbie: do you know how to pastebin from without GUI?08:35
Dr_Willisthat would point to a driver, or kernel  or other weird system bug then08:35
tozenubuntunewbie: do you know how to pastebin from console without GUI?08:35
Triple15_hallo, brauche hilfe, http://pastebin.com/23T3B3sS , ich möchte kubuntu auf ps3 haben.08:36
sam113101can I downgrade my graphic driver?08:36
ubuntunewbietozen: no, I am not sure if that laptop is connected to network08:37
Dr_Willissam113101:  what is your video chipset?08:37
icerootwhat is a good way to diff 2 complete directories over ssh? i have to diff two different machines on /etc/08:38
ubuntunewbietozen: If i do a install without formatting partition, would I lose my stuff (like home, network keys etc?)08:38
Ben64iceroot: what do you mean by diff08:38
icerootBen64: diff-viewer08:39
Dr_Willisubuntunewbie:  a instgall without formating - may end up in a unuseable system also.08:39
icerootBen64: i have to find all differences in these 2 configs/machines08:39
ubuntunewbieDr_Willis: oh!08:39
Ben64iceroot: well you can use rsync to see what files are different then diff those08:40
sam113101Dr_Willis: sorry, what did you say?08:40
sam113101everything crashed08:40
Triple15_i cant see the new HDD device on petitboot, /dev/ps3dd.08:40
Dr_Willissam113101:  what is your video chipset? thats a critical bit of info08:41
sam11310101:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV730 PRO [Radeon HD 4650]08:41
Ben64Triple15_: uh, that's really not an ubuntu issue, you should check with whoever wrote that tool08:42
Dr_Willissam113101:  check the forums and askubuntu.com to see if others have had issues with that chipset. also what video driver are you using? open sourced, or the fglrx08:42
sam113101open source (radeon I think)08:42
icerootBen64: i will have a look08:43
Dr_Willissam113101:  tried the fglrx drivers?08:43
sam113101Dr_Willis: I tried to install it on 13.04 but it broke everything, I had to reinstall everything in the end08:44
sam113101and it was from the repo08:44
WoodsmanI'm trying to debug a program I made with GDB. Every time I've done it in the past it hasn't had an argument vector, but now I need to specify in the argv which file it takes and some other parameters. How do I do that in GDB? I thought I could just do "gdb executable filename arg2 arg3" but that's not working for me08:46
JohnSmithHi All, I've just wanted to record my desktop with Kazam, but after the countdown and it closes. I saw the icons on the panel for a second and it disappeared. Does anyone know why is that?08:47
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Dr_WillisJohnSmith:  run kazam from a terminal. look for error messages perhaps and they will provide a clue08:48
sam113101Dr_Willis: "compiz --replace" does fix it (but obviously it comes back if I reboot my computer)08:51
Dr_Willissam113101:  weird. so make compiz restart after a few seconds delay when you login as a dirty work around. ;)08:52
sam113101so iS IT A DRIVER BUG OR A COMPIZ/unity bug?08:53
Dr_Willis  ~/.config/autostart/    maje a script08:53
Dr_Willismake a script ;)08:53
sam113101sorry for the caps08:53
sam113101xmodmap is failing on me08:53
xukunhmm can seem to find the 13.10 mini iso08:53
sam113101obviously08:53
Dr_Willisor an icon on the desktop  - there used to be an indicator applet that could restart compiz also08:53
Dr_Willis!minimal08:54
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD08:54
JohnSmitherror: In pixman_region32_init_rect: Invalid rectangle passed Set a breakpoint on '_pixman_log_error' to debug and then segmented error08:54
sam113101srsly08:54
sam113101is it a driver bug or unity bug?08:54
xukunDr_Willis, thanks a lot08:55
Dr_Willissam113101:  no idea.08:55
Dr_Willisif compiz restarting fixed it.. thats using the same driver.08:56
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sam113101Dr_Willis: serious question, how smooth is the boot process to you?08:56
sam113101it flickers here, and I have a lot of glitches08:57
sam113101before I get to the desktop08:57
sam113101I wonder if it's the same for everyONE08:57
sam113101OR JUST ME08:57
Dr_Willissam113101:  my desktop boots in like 20 seconds. i rarely see the loading screen08:57
Dr_Willisi also often disable pymouth so i rarely see the boot animation on any of my pcs08:57
sam113101Dr_Willis: me too man, I have a ssd08:57
sam113101but it shows weird colors08:58
sam113101like a broken graphic card08:58
mapreriI installed saucy on a USB key, but he refuses to boot, he gets stuck before grub appears. How can I check where is the problem? I already tried to reinstall grub...08:58
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sam113101and black screens08:58
sam113101not as smooth as if I were booting on windows, for example08:58
Dr_Willisubuntus bootup process is more complex.08:59
Dr_Willisi dont worry about it.08:59
andrysome funny glitches and black screens are fine during boot08:59
sam113101andry: but it's not pleasant08:59
Dr_Willisuse text mode if you dont want to see anything other then the leet text messages08:59
andryyea, no splash or something09:00
sam113101why is it this way, btw?09:00
sam113101is it because of X?09:00
Dr_Willis!plymouth09:00
ubottuPlymouth is an application that runs very early in the boot process (even before the root filesystem is mounted!) that provides a graphical boot animation while the boot process happens in the background. To change your Plymouth theme use « sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth && sudo update-initramfs -u »09:00
andryvideo mode switching ie09:00
Dr_Willislimitations of plymouth and the X server09:00
Dr_Willisand how it uses initrd09:00
Dr_Willisi belive09:00
sam113101will it be better with mir?09:00
wilee-nileemapreri, How did you try and reinstall grub? This is a full install?09:00
mapreriwilee-nilee: I reinstall grub using grub-install via chroot using the system installed on my PC. Yes, this is a full install of Ubuntu on the USB key. Thx for the answer :)09:02
wilee-nileemapreri, Has it ever booted, this is a flash?09:02
sam113101is there a unity channel where I can ask about my bugs?09:02
mapreriwilee-nilee: No, I just install it, and it has never booted.... Obviously is a flash drive...09:03
sam113101#ubuntu-unity09:04
sam113101hopefully it won't be empty09:04
wilee-nileemapreri, I would check the sum of the iso you used, it should run if all is good.09:04
andryunit09:04
andrywooops09:05
andry:)09:05
cristian_cHi09:05
andryhi09:05
mapreriwilee-nilee: I checked the sha256 hash before using the iso, as usual09:05
cristian_cmapreri, hi09:05
wilee-nileemapreri, A single install will skip grub, shift will show it, could it be a graphic driver is needed?09:06
maprericristian_c: hi! ;)09:06
cristian_chi all, I found volume keys don't work well anymore09:06
ickefeshi people. what is the easiest way to install 13.10 on btrfs with glib/lzo compression during installation? my hard drive is slow so09:07
cristian_cfor example, if I press the toggle key, the sound is muted. But if I press it again, the sound is no longer turned on09:08
mapreriwilee-nilee: I also try pressing shift, but nothing shows up. But if this is the case the system should boot, instead of getting stuck in a black screen...09:08
Roryickefes: You would have to set up the partitions in advance, and then use the custom partitioning option during the installation to select the partitions you want to use09:09
andryi wonder if there is any brother beside firefox where you can set scroll pixels (speed)09:09
ickefesok. so do i partition it to a btrfs in like say gparted before hand and during installation there is a quite easy way to select compression?09:09
andrybrother :D i mean browser09:09
ickefesRory: forgot to address my response to you09:10
Rory!btrfs | I'm not sure of the specifics, maybe this will help09:10
ubottuI'm not sure of the specifics, maybe this will help: Btrfs is a new filesystem available for Ubuntu. It is currently marked as experimental, and should not be used for important data. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/btrfs09:10
cristian_ceven the keys to increase and decrease the volume does not work well: they do not reach the lower and upper limits (at least in the applet on the panel)09:10
lucidohello, I'm getting "unsupported" on my lcd after upgrading to 13.10, meaning my lcd can no longer support the resolution or refresh rate after the upgrade, what happened?09:10
Rory!lvm | ikonia09:10
ubottuikonia: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto09:10
cristian_cwhat might be the problem? What should I look for?09:11
cristian_cAny ideas?09:11
wilee-nileemapreri, I will assume you know when to press shift, a black screen is common with a missing driver though. You also must understand we never know the skill level of the other so we have to ask questions that may some uneeded to you.09:11
mapreriwilee-nilee: no worry about that, anyway, there is no need of weired graphic driver, since I use a lot of dristro on this PC, and I had never need of driver. (btw, I have to press shift after bios messages)09:14
lucidowhqat changes in the graphical system that after upgrade that changes the resolution or the refresh rate in 13.10?09:14
wilee-nileemapreri, You would know the driver situation, If it were me since it just wont boot I would try another install, since you chrooted to install grub, or maybe run the bootscript and look at it for errors.09:15
Dr_Willislucido:  you could set up grub to use the text menu method. or change the res it trys to display - in /etc/default/grub09:16
mapreriwilee-nilee: what is bootscript?09:17
Dr_Willislucido:  does it boot after a delay? or is the login screen also affected?09:17
lucidoDr_Willis, it boots but the graphical login screen is not visible since the lcd cant handle the resolution/refresh rate09:18
tarelerulzwhat is the room for Ubuntu mobile  os?09:18
wilee-nileemapreri, It is on the bootrepair as the boot info summary or originally this http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/  bootrepair https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair09:18
Dr_Willislucido:  that is weird. since the X display is totally seperate from the grub menus display09:19
Dr_Willis!touch | tarelerulz09:19
ubottutarelerulz: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch09:19
lucidoDr_Willis, I did not enter into the grub menu, switching to console works after reboot09:20
lucidothe problem is with x09:20
lucidoDr_Willis, console resolution is fine09:22
mapreriwilee-nilee: ok, I'm going to try it right now09:22
arianitupgraded to 13.10 and only the social network lens works. I can't get to the software from the dash. tried reinstalling but didn't help. any idea?09:22
wilee-nileemapreri, feel free to post the script rl from the repair or a pastebin of the original if needed.09:23
wilee-nileeurl*09:23
lucidoDr_Willis, I had a custom xorg conf because I have an old lcd tv that I connect to via a vga cable on an nvidia card, it worked fine until the upgrade09:23
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Dr_Willislucido:  cant say ive needed a custom xorg for my nvidia systems in years. ;P except to enable/tweak twinview.09:24
wilee-nileearianit, to the software, no panel on left, no dash with the super key?09:24
lucidoDr_Willis, I did because the card couldn't sense the proper res/refresh09:25
lucidocheap lcd tv09:25
lucidobut now the upgrade broke my setup09:25
arianitwilee-nilee, I get the dash, but only social messages lens is available.09:25
wilee-nileearianit, on an earlier release I had an install that needed a reset to show the desktop correctly, you might try this. http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/reset-unity-and-compiz-in-ubuntu-13-10/09:26
Dr_Willislucido:  try it without the xorg.conf yet?09:26
lucidoDr_Willis, it is disregarded anyways since the wrong signal is sent to the lcd bu I'll try09:28
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arianitwilee-nilee, let me try that09:29
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ansuI've got a question about ubuntus apt repository. How long does it take until a package is updated? for example subversion package is version 1.7.9 but the most recent one is 1.7.13...09:31
ansutalking about ubuntu 12.0409:31
wilee-nileeansu, Impossible to say.09:31
wilee-nileeansu, To mant independent developers and packages to have an actual time line, you would have to contact each one, unless there is some notice09:32
wilee-nileemany*09:32
lucidoDr_Willis, I get X now but it says "could not apply the stored configuration for monitors" and the screen is in 1024x768 (my lcd is 1366x768)09:32
andryhas anyone ffmpeg installed from ubu repo and can check if it was compiled with libfdk_aac?09:32
Dr_Willislucido:  try with a newly created user09:33
ansuwilee-nilee: but packages do get updated right? or are they only updated with a new ubuntu release?09:34
Dr_Willis!latest09:34
ubottuPackages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.09:34
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mapreriwilee-nilee: here is the report: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6269142/ as you can see I have a plenty of OS/partition on this disk. Actually I have only gnu/linux distros. The usb key is sdb, the system is on sdb109:35
wilee-nileeansu, If someone is working on them there may be updates, most are working for free and independent of dependencies that may be involved basically. What you want is a yes or no answer, what there is an continuum between those two points09:35
mapreriwilee-nilee: which way do you suggest me now?09:36
lukey_Hi Is there a way to add mount options to System Managed USB Devices that do not have entries in FSTAB? (They have entries in gnome-disk GUI and have tried changing them there but it changes the mount points and then fails fsck on reboot)09:36
lucidoDr_Willis, it seams that something has changed in the upgrade, that made the system not accept or interpret differently my custom xorg.conf. believe me I need a custom xorg.conf to get the correct resolution and refresh rate for my monitor. the question is, what changed in the upgrade that is related to this? I can post my xorg log09:36
NameLegionHi all I have to do encryption ip address09:36
Dr_Willislucido:  ive not had to look at a xorg  config or log file in years.    so cant really help there.09:37
NameLegiontor does not help09:37
Dr_WillisNameLegion:  you have to do what exactly?09:37
lucidoDr_Willis, thanks anyways09:37
ansuwilee-nilee I understand :) So if I want to have the latest version of a package I have to either rely on a 3rd party ppa or build it on my own?09:37
NameLegionhide ip address09:38
Dr_WillisNameLegion:  use a proxy, or vpn,  or on irc get a Cloak09:38
Dr_Willis!cloak09:38
ubottuTo get any kind of cloak (ubuntu member or any other kind) you first need to set up your nick as detailed in this FAQ: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup -  For Ubuntu member cloaks, ask in #ubuntu-irc and provide your launchpad page, for unaffiliated ones, ask in #freenode.09:38
wilee-nileeansu, possibly yes.09:39
NameLegionthank you09:39
Dr_Willis!backports09:40
ubottuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging09:40
wilee-nileemapreri, Heh, whole lot of OS's, does the OS that controls the sda grub boot show the sdb install in it's grub menu if you run a update-grub in that OS?09:43
mapreriwilee-nilee: let's me try09:44
wilee-nileemapreri, The sdb1 drive looks to have the correct grub files to boot.09:44
mapreriI saw09:45
wilee-nileemapreri, The grub boot on the sda HD if you know which OS has its grub in the mbr should boot the usb if bootable, I think you probably know this though.09:47
galois_help09:47
azizLIGHTShow much hdd space needed for install of ubuntu 13.10 desktop i38609:47
mapreriwilee-nilee: yes, but I need to boot the USB key in other PC...09:48
wilee-nileegalois_, sure, need a life vest?09:48
wilee-nileemapreri, Sure but this is just a test if another grub will boot it.09:48
galois_wilee-nilee: just first using XChat IRC09:49
mapreriwilee-nilee: this is an updatr-grub: paste.ubuntu.com/626923009:49
mapreriNot so good09:49
emdub_anyone familiar with debugging package dependencies?09:50
emdub_i am running a brand new saucy installation and the syslog-ng dependency chain seems to be broken, not sure why09:50
wilee-nileemapreri, How many working OS's are actually there?09:50
mapreriwilee-nilee: there should be also precise and archlinux besides the ones listed on the link09:52
wilee-nileemapreri, Yeah I see six on the script holding boot files and a windows entry formally on sda1, are you sure the OS you ran this update from has its grub in the sda mbr, you can make sure with sudo grub-install /dev/sda ; sudo update-grub09:54
wilee-nileemapreri, I also notice you are rooted in the terminal on that update, are you running in root?09:55
mapreriwilee-nilee: no, the one I ran have grub installed on a partition. On the MBR I installed burg. But nothing should change, afaik09:56
datandroiddudewhat is the best broadcom driver that supports monitor mode?09:57
wilee-nileemapreri, burg is just grub in drag still grub, (thats a joke) a whole lotta errors for sure and sdb is not seen, so a if it were me I would try installing on the usb again.09:58
lucidooois there anyone who knows about xorg config files? I have a custom xorg.conf (need it because my lcd doesn't report it's correct capabilities) that worked fine in 13.04 but since upgading to 13.10 the lcd is incabable of displaying the output from x. Here's my conf file and my xorg log: http://pastebin.com/ruP3rCn3    What has changed in the upgrade that makes x output a different signal to my lcd with the sam conf file as before?09:58
datandroiddudedoes anyone know a broadcom driver that supports monitor mode?09:59
wilee-nileemapreri, The OS running burg is the controlling OS though that would be where you would run the update to show sdb.09:59
wilee-nileeif you were to see it in the burg menu09:59
wildc4rdis there a basic image editor for ubuntu, an MSPaint equivalent, for when I can't be bothered with gimp.10:00
sofias_hello, there. i updated to saucy yesterday, and that broke some things. it uninstalled fglrx so the graphics were gone, but i fixed that. i still have no audio tho, lspci lists it as "00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH Azalia Controller (rev 01)" but it doesn't appear in mixer programs. may that be due to missing packages, too?10:00
paulens12hello10:01
paulens12i'm trying to use ubuntu 13.04 on a touchscreen, but i have some problems...10:02
paulens12when i boot, it's OK, i can control it with my finger... but after about 10-20 seconds the window manager stops responding to my touches10:02
hitsujiTMOpaulens12: 13.04 touch support simply sucks. vast improvements to it in 13.1010:03
paulens12well, it works partially... for example, if i press the power button, i can interact with the power menu. if i touchthe screen wih 5 fingers, it opens the dash...10:03
paulens12hitsujiTMO, oh, well then i'll try 13.10 :)10:04
paulens12hitsujiTMO, can i install it over 13.04 without losing my programs and settings?10:04
alamihello, i have on my desktop Ubuntu about more then 2 years ago, and now i want to backup, reinstall, what's the best way to do it?10:04
hitsujiTMOpaulens12: you can try anpgrade ... but back up everything first10:04
subz3r0!backup | alami10:04
ubottualami: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning10:04
hitsujiTMO!upgrade | paulens1210:05
ubottupaulens12: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade10:05
subz3r0i recommend using rsync or if you need a gui try Lucky backup (its a frontend for rsync)10:05
paulens12hitsujiTMO, ok, so if i select "instal over ubuntu 13.04", it shouldn't delete everything?10:05
paulens12hitsujiTMO oh i see :D10:05
sofias_wildc4rd, have you tried mtpaint? seemed to be pretty good in pixel stuff. tze same authors made rgbpaint later but i didn't try that one yet…10:06
the_drowHi, salt removed me from the sudoers group by accident. How do I add myself back? su root fails, sudo fails because my user is not in the sudoers group10:08
azizLIGHTSim trying ubuntu 13.10 in vmware, and it looks messed up. there is no left bar, nor panel at the top and things are flickering: http://i.imgur.com/hcNmM3P.png10:08
andrythe_drow, usermod -a -G sudo username10:09
the_drowandry: but won't that require sudo?10:09
andryshould be enough .. else sudo nano /etc/sudoers and add "yourname ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL" to the end10:09
andryoh sorry, got it wrong10:10
the_drowandry: I can't access sudo. There are no other users in the system10:10
paulens12he can boot into root shell...10:10
andryyes10:10
paulens12and use those commands from there10:10
the_drowandry paulens12 I'm using 13.10 how?10:10
azizLIGHTSanother example of how horrible ubuntu 13.10 looks on my computer: http://i.imgur.com/7cfAoCO.png10:10
paulens12you need to select the option from grub10:11
the_drowpaulens12: How do I get grub to appear?10:11
azizLIGHTSso... what is up with that? anyone help10:11
paulens12the_drow i think you need to press escape...10:11
paulens12while booting10:11
paulens12not sure though10:11
the_drowpaulens12: nope. I get the login screen10:11
wilee-nileeazizLIGHTS, looks like missing graphic drivers10:12
hitsujiTMOthe_drow: hold shift while booting10:12
paulens12oh, shift...10:12
paulens12xD10:12
paulens12ok10:12
azizLIGHTSi am on vmware wilee-nilee10:12
azizLIGHTSubuntu doesnt write drivers for vmware?10:12
paulens12azizLIGHTS, try a live USB10:12
the_drowStill on the login screen10:12
wilee-nileeazizLIGHTS, I never used vmware.10:12
paulens12just put the ISO file as a DV?D drive in vmware settings10:12
paulens12DVD*10:13
the_drowhitsujiTMO: shift doesn't work10:13
azizLIGHTSyes... thats what i did10:13
azizLIGHTSit is the iso as a dvd drive in vmware10:13
paulens12oh10:13
sofias_is there some list of packets required for working audio on (x)ubuntu?10:13
paulens12azizLIGHTS, that's probably a problem with video drivers... try to mess with hardware settings in vmware10:13
paulens12there should be settings for video card10:14
paulens12the_drow, try a live USB10:14
paulens12the_drow, <andry> should be enough .. else sudo nano /etc/sudoers and add "yourname ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL" to the end10:14
hitsujiTMOthe_drow: sorry, it's right shift10:14
the_drowhitsujiTMO: I tried to use CTRL+ALT+F1 and it won't let me log in as root10:14
paulens12the_drow, this method should work, you just need to add the mount point to the path10:14
paulens12the_drow or just find the file through nautilus (from live usb), that should be simpler..10:15
the_drowyay I can boot into grub10:15
hitsujiTMOthe_drow: root account is inactive ... you need to boot as single user mode(rescue mode) or boot a live cd to fix10:15
the_drowman that computer boots fast10:16
the_drowit won't let me edit the soduers file from grub10:18
the_drowit says the file is readonly10:18
geirhayes, because /etc/sudoers should never be edited directly10:19
andrymount -o remount,rw /10:19
andrythen you can edit10:19
subz3r0geirha: hmm? why it should never be edited?10:20
andryfailsafe console mounts readonly10:20
subz3r0its not the /etc/shadow...10:20
the_drowandry: wait what? I'm not using the live cd yet10:20
andryin the recovery console you are in now, just enter this mount command to mount the partition read-write10:20
geirhasubz3r0: It's what visudo is for. visudo copies the current file to a temp file, starts your favorite editor on that file, and when you close the editor, it does a syntax check on the new file before copying it over the original10:21
subz3r0geirha: ahh yes. just forgot that :)10:22
geirhaIf there's any syntax errors in /etc/sudoers, sudo won't work, at all.10:22
subz3r0geirha: but ofc youre right. just did not remember, since im working mostly with debian atm. and there is no sudo installed on the machines :)10:22
the_drowthanks!10:23
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andry:)10:26
xOrHctiWhow can i install a ubuntu mini in hdd?10:28
shauntabletWhat is ubuntu mini?10:29
kurcinahi how to set do dowanload all from english and not my country leanguge i hate when i download some soft and it is on my languge10:29
Sendoushifrom what i know. ubuntu mini may be mobile10:29
Sendoushi?10:29
xOrHctiWsory ubuntu minimal10:30
andryjust .. burn the minimal iso and install? :)10:30
andryyou cannot install from usb ... well, there is a workaround someone posted in the forums, but i have not tested it yet10:30
kurcinaanyone how to set to just download form English mirors and not my country mirors10:31
kurcinaf u10:31
xOrHctiWya,but its bare bones,no gui for instaling10:31
andrythe english mirrors would download the same software, you need to change your ubuntu locales to en i think10:31
hitsujiTMOxOrHctiW: you need to use the ubuntu server cd10:32
kurcinaandry,  so i need to set thet i am from englad if i want english but thet will f up my time zone10:32
andryyou can change the timezone after that10:33
kurcinaso evry time i instal softwer i have to change my locales?10:34
xOrHctiWhitsujiTMO didnt think of that,thanx10:34
subz3r0kurcina: it depends what you mean with "english" servers. The Localization of the system.  Means the language or the server locations itself. if its the server location, you can change them a) by editing the /etc/apt/sources.list or b) with the updatemanger (options)10:34
hitsujiTMOkurcina: why do you want to download from the english mirrors? its the same content, just gonna take you longer to download from them10:34
andryno, just change it once and keep it10:34
kurcinabeacuse somthime when i download i get softwer on my nativ languge and i used to english languge on PC10:35
yeats!locale10:35
ubottuTo set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale/10:35
yeatskurcina: I don't think the location of the mirror makes a difference - just set your locale to English and you're done10:36
andryyes10:36
andryand change the timezone afterwards10:36
yeatslocale shouldn't affect timezone either10:36
kurcinaok ty10:36
andryshouldnt, yes :)10:36
hitsujiTMO<yeats> locale DOESN't affect timezone either  --- FTFY!10:37
SteveBellHi all, I'm stuck with  a toshiba nb-305 (105) netbook booting into a black screen on ubuntu 12.10. I did10:37
SteveBell•when in grub, select ubuntu and hit "e“10:37
SteveBell•highlight  ubuntu entry10:37
SteveBell•press 'e'10:37
SteveBell•remove 'quite splash nomodeset' from kernel line10:37
FloodBot1SteveBell: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:37
SteveBell•then ctrl+x to boot10:37
yeatshitsujiTMO: FTFY?10:37
hitsujiTMOfixed that for you10:38
hitsujiTMO:P10:38
andry:D10:38
mapreriwilee-nilee: OK. I managed to try on a friend computer. Here works good. I don't understand why my computer sucks sometimes... :|10:38
* nongeek hello all10:38
nongeekI joined my Linux to windows domain but I can't login to the Linux it show me "Could not update ICEauthority file /home/test/.ICEauthority"10:39
wilee-nileemapreri, Thats good, there were errors in the grub update so there does seem to be problems there not sure exactly what though.10:39
wilee-nileemapreri, Best luck I have to crash here. ;)10:40
nongeekany idea?10:41
andryanyone every built his wifi driver into the kernel?10:41
andryeverytime i build my wifi cards driver into the kernel ubuntu cannot see it until i pull it out and back in10:42
Dr_Willisandry:  as a module would be more commonly done. because you an then pass options to it whenit loads i reall.10:42
shauntabletnongeek check file permissions10:42
andryyes, i was thinking about that too10:42
andryi better let it outside10:42
nongeekshauntablet: I change permission too but problem not solved10:43
nongeekshauntablet: My Linux is joined to windows domain but how can I use my Windows username and pass in Linux?10:43
shauntabletSorry haven't tried that before10:43
shauntabletOnly done cifs or smb connections but not on a domain10:44
nongeekis it possible?10:45
shauntabletUsually DOMAIN\USER10:45
shauntabletDunno10:45
nongeeknot worked :(10:45
yeats!samba | nongeek10:45
ubottunongeek: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.10:45
andrythey released a more stable samba the past days10:46
SteveBellseems no one knows. got to go now. will try later to resolve that freakin netbook 12.10 issue. cu10:46
nongeekubottu: I know it and I joined my linux to windows network but I can't login to the Linux10:47
ubottunongeek: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)10:47
Dr_Willisnongeek:  you gave the linux user a samba password?  (sudo smbpasswd -a username) ?  i never used  windows domains either. just basic samba stuff here.10:51
andryi remember there was a great prop. tool to join you easily into the domain, but cannot remember its name10:52
bekksnongeek: How did you setup LDAP auth?10:52
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nongeekbekks: I setup kerberos and configure it to read my AD10:53
nongeekbekks: My linux can read my AD users and group but I can't login to the linux10:53
bekksnongeek: Did you make changes to PAM?10:54
nongeekbekks: Can you help me?10:58
nongeekI don't know10:58
bekksnongeek: You need to configure PAM to auth against LDAP.10:58
nongeekbekks: OK, Can I send Pm?10:58
nongeekbekks: How can I configure it?10:59
arunkumar413created a new theme in in the .themes folder of home directory. But advanced settings is not showing the theme which i've created10:59
bekksnongeek: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryHowto11:01
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nongeekbekks: I will read it and if i have any question, I will ask11:02
nongeekbekks: Can I talk to you via PM?11:02
bekksnongeek: There is no need to contact me by pm, just ask in this channel.11:03
nongeekOK, Thank you11:03
Anakihey guys11:04
zipperCan I get pelican and Markdown via the ubuntu repos and not through pip install?11:05
zipperI don't find the need for virtual env since ubuntu has the default python version as 2.7.311:05
AnakiOfc I have a question: I have ubuntu 12.04 64bit installed. But I only have 512MB RAM, and I'm too lazy to buy RAM. So can I somehow install Ubuntu 32bit without a CD?11:05
shauntabletAnaki $20 will double you ram no?11:06
Anakitrue11:06
Anakibut I want no new RAM atm11:06
shauntabletUsb11:07
AnakiFor windows there is a windows installer, right? Is there nothing like that just for linux?11:07
shauntabletYea i don't think so11:08
shauntabletStrange11:08
Anaki:/11:08
shauntabletMaybe in wine :-)11:08
Anakiu think that would work? windowsinstaller with wine? o011:09
roothead0hai11:09
Anakihi11:09
shauntabletNo but it might, not sure how exactly the windows installer wroks11:10
jackbrownif I change the value into the file /sys/devices/platform/asus-nb-wmi/leds/asus\:\:kbd_backlight/brightness I'm able to modify my Backlight Keyboard I would lime to remap FN+F3 or F4 to regulate it  HELP PLS?==?^^11:10
rootheadIs there any official name for a combo of SpaceFM icon engine and Fluxbox?11:11
shauntabletjackbrown check out xbindkeys11:12
Valdusall:  anyone know of any cool/useful expresscards? trying to find something more intersting than extra usb ports11:12
jackbrownshauntablet:  where?11:12
shauntabletGoogle11:12
jackbrownok11:12
shauntabletSorry on tablet11:12
rootheadShaun, there are SD/CF multi-readers that go into the 3.5 slot on the front11:13
rootheadI have one on my PC11:13
rootheadThe thing has a USB port and 4 different card slots11:13
rootheadIn the modern day, 3.5 slots are rarely used11:14
rootheadMy PC has two 3.5 slots, one occupied by the reader, and wide slots, one occupied by the CD drive11:15
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bekksroothead: A CD is larger than a 3.5"slot.11:16
voozeI have a big problem with fstab.. I can't seem to mount 2 of my 3 drives.. Before format they worked perfect.. Now they just wont mount from fstab.. They automount to /media/ insted.. even /dev/sdc1 + 2 + 3 mounts in /media (and thats the /home and / drive) What am I doing wrong?? Using ubuntu 13.04 minimal http://paste.ubuntu.com/6269618/11:16
rootheadbekks: That's it, so there are two slot widths.11:16
voozeI commented all the "non working" lines out.. they have all been testet11:17
rootheadThe smaller slot width is now rarely used, but I have one small slot occupied by cardreader (four memcard types and USB slot)11:17
rootheadBekks, if you're on a X86 desktop, chances are you gotta have either a welded-in 3" drive or at least one narrow slot, be that slot occupied or not11:19
rootheadx86 or x86-64 desktop*11:19
rootheadThough some PPC boards use much the same onboard peripherals as many X86 ones and go in same kind of case.11:20
shauntabletHah what about my ARM desktop or my SPARC or AS/400 desktop :-)11:24
bekksshauntablet: which sparc? :)11:27
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rootheadIDK of SPARC, ARM might have same kind of mobo/case. In fact, the two slot widths were established before PC CD-ROMs became common - for 3" and 5" drives11:29
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rootheadbut, is there an official name for SpaceFM+Fluxbox desktop? Or is it just "Antix Desktop Environment"?11:31
rootheadSpaceFM is a fork of PcManFM11:32
eimishi. I'm using ubuntu 12.04 with 3.2.0-54-generic kernel. problem: "cat: /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch: No such file or directory" So GPU switching is not possible. Can you help?11:32
andryanyone else noticed that windows that you snapped to the side (or whereever) cannot be properly maximized with a click on the max button?11:35
rootheadandry, October release?11:36
andry13.0411:36
rootheadNever had this problem in spring release11:37
andrynot a big thing :) but strange11:37
shauntabletMy nas really11:38
rootheadyou can press CTRL+WIN+Up to maximize11:38
bekksor doubleclick the top border.11:38
andryoh ok, was a bit too lazy to search for the shortcut, tought it was ctrl+alt11:38
andrythanks11:38
rootheadandry, it's Aero Snap but with CTRL added to avoid MS attack11:39
bekksshauntablet: You have a NAS with a sparc processor?11:39
rootheadandry, but I prefer Alt+F10 like IceWM does11:40
shauntabletYeah well its sparc architecture chip if I'm remembering correctly its a readynas duo11:40
rootheadbut I can't figure how to register an icon engine to work with IceWM11:40
shauntabletSarge linux11:41
rootheadthat is, register them together as a session11:41
shauntabletWas old debian11:41
bekksshauntablet: My apoologizies then. I feared it is a Netgear, indeed.11:41
shauntabletYea11:41
shauntabletNot doing that again11:42
rootheadantiX, another Debian-Testing based distro, goes with 10 pre-registered sessions11:42
roothead4 WMs, 3 registered with either of the icon engines or with no icon engine11:43
shauntabletIts been fine as a nas goes though just not fun compiling apache to try and get svn working11:43
rootheadSPARC = Stupid Processor Architecture11:43
roothead:l11:44
shauntabletIndeed11:44
zipperWhy would python-pelican not show up in apt in my computer?11:44
shauntabletBad filesystem on these too11:44
bekksshauntablet: The FS works well.11:45
shauntabletSome stupid block size can't be easily read once that board dies11:45
rootheadZipper, what year/month?11:45
shauntabletYeah so far so good but fear the dayb11:45
bekksshauntablet: I have backups.11:45
rootheadFor every GB of HDD space you have, you need 4 GB of backup11:46
shauntabletU got rooms in your rooms11:46
Thoams_Whaaaat.11:46
bekksshauntablet: No. I am just not insane and have backups :) Data without backups is data not worth keeping.11:47
rootheadyes, two backups, two copies of each11:47
Thoams_Because you're base64 encoding all your backups.11:47
Thoams_roothead: Explain yourself damn it!11:47
Thoams_oh.11:47
shauntabletWell my nas is the backup11:47
bekksshauntablet: So you have another copy.11:47
shauntabletSo if i backed that up11:47
bekksshauntablet: If the backup dies, just create a new.11:47
shauntabletYeah also git11:47
shauntabletOn aws11:48
TKingplease i need advise while updating from 13.04 to 13.10, update-manager froze and i rebooted. but i can't access the login screen or desktop? on reboot i get tking@root11:48
shauntabletAnd some on github11:48
rootheadThe only data I need is my passwords stored on my Google acc11:48
eimishi. I'm using ubuntu 12.04 with 3.2.0-54-generic kernel. problem: "cat: /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch: No such file or directory" So GPU switching is not possible. Can you help?11:48
shauntabletBut what about those music videosmfrom the 90s11:48
rootheadTwo backups - in case one turns out bad (contaminated/conflicting), two copies of each backed-up state11:50
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rootheadElse it's an invitation to disaster11:50
shauntabletWell the nas is Raid 1 but don't think they can be read outside the enclosure11:51
TKingis it possible to rewind upgrade of 13.10 to 13.04? During upgrade things froze on hard-reboot i can,t see anything11:51
bekksroothead: its pretty easy living without data not worth to be backed up ;)11:52
rootheadtking, no you can't rewind. Reinstall 13.04.11:52
rootheadAlso, 13.10 turns to be a buggernaut to me11:53
rootheadghosts of menus on background in GNOME and such11:53
rootheadand general slowness11:53
rootheadApril 13 was nicer11:53
rootheadmaybe I'm just a brainless piece of cr@p11:54
yeatsroothead: are you filing bugs?11:54
yeats!bug11:54
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.11:54
rootheadNo, I just tend to flee the buggernaut like a drowning ship. Not worth running about drawing a scheme of the leaks11:55
rootheadalso, what makes me mad at Ubuntu in general is lack of built-in freq scaler11:55
shauntabletI went to kde recently11:56
rootheadI prefer KOpenbox to KDE/Plasma11:56
TKingroothead, i have files i need to backup, i fresh install would affect all my files, installed softwares etc? any idea to fix the problem?11:56
bekksTKing: You would have to backup everything, yes.11:56
yeatsTKing: boot into the installer and move your files to external storage11:56
rootheadTKing, move your files away using a rescue CD11:57
yeatsTKing: but you should be doing that regularly anyway, esp. before an upgrade11:57
shauntabletYea clonezilla11:57
bekksor tar, rsync, bacula, or whatever.11:57
rootheadTKing, I'd advise using a cloud-centric OS instead - say, Jolicloud11:57
xXxEvaxXxHi11:58
shauntablet!clonezilla11:58
shauntabletAwe11:58
eimisxXxEvaxXx: hi11:58
rootheadHi, xXxEvaxXx. What's the issue?11:58
=== dziegler_off is now known as dziegler
chrmhoffmannafter upgrading to saucy, I have an issue with freshclam cron entry11:58
chrmhoffmanni get an email with "connect(): Permission denied"11:58
chrmhoffmanni checked and was able to run [ -x /usr/bin/freshclam ] && /usr/bin/freshclam --quiet >/dev/null11:59
chrmhoffmannwithout issue from the commandline with sudo -u clamav11:59
chrmhoffmannwhat could be the problem?11:59
yeatschrmhoffmann: which user runs the cron?11:59
rootheadDon't upgrade 'till EVERYTHING is backed up, then do a CLEAN INSTALL of the new stuff instead of ovelay-upgrade11:59
chrmhoffmannyeats, 35 */1 * * *    clamav [ -x /usr/bin/freshclam ] && /usr/bin/freshclam --quiet >/dev/null12:00
chrmhoffmanni guess it's clamav?12:00
rootheadmaybe prepare a setup script for after the clean install12:00
yeatschrmhoffmann: which user's crontab?12:00
andry<roothead> Also, 13.10 turns to be a buggernaut to me < pretty much what i think of .10 for now :P12:00
xXxEvaxXxWhere are you from ??12:00
andryi will wait for some packages upgrades and try again12:00
andry-s12:00
yeatsandry: make sure to report bugs - it helps everyone12:01
chrmhoffmannyeats, I don't know.12:01
cfhowlett!topic|xXxEvaxXx, this isn't a social channel.12:01
ubottuxXxEvaxXx, this isn't a social channel.: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic12:01
andryyeats, sure, the ones i found were already reported :)12:01
yeatsandry: good12:01
rootheadPeople aren't keen on bug reporting, they'd rather just run to safety of the old-and-trusty build.12:01
chrmhoffmannyeats, I got the email from root@myhost12:01
yeatsroothead: no room to complain if you don't report bugs, though12:02
rootheadSo, best experience was Ku120412:02
andrywell, the most annoying stuff was x-related anyway12:02
yeatschrmhoffmann: are you able to pastebin the full email?  (remove any private data first)12:02
rootheadLeanest Pastebin of them all - http://paste.ubuntu.com12:03
chrmhoffmannyeats, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=SW2VdYgx12:03
shauntabletAh the trusty ol 6 month old software, let me dust this puppy off12:03
rootheadKu1204 is the peak for me, but I freakin' hate the lack of a freq scaler OOTB12:05
rootheadWaiting for Ku1404 LTS and hope it will be a good build, not a stinky buggernaut on a stick12:06
rootheadMaybe by then I'll have the PC fixed/replaced and won't need the scaler12:07
shauntabletNaw always need the scalar12:07
CarsekyxAre there any known issues with nvidia and 13.10?12:07
shauntabletManually doing it is a pain12:07
TKingyeats how do i boot into the installer?12:07
yeatschrmhoffmann: this looks relevant: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/permission-denied-between-clamav-daemon-and-amavisd-new-on-ubuntu-9-04-a-722668/12:08
=== dziegler is now known as dziegler_off
yeatsTKing: boot from a live CD/USB?12:08
rootheadGPUs are an issue when it comes to Linux, better stick to old games' remakes. That's it, Carsekyx12:08
TKingyeats USB12:08
andryis clamav in the amavis group?12:08
Carsekyxroothead, not even for games just general use.12:08
andryand amavis in clam12:09
yeatsTKing: boot from USB and select "Try Ubuntu without installing" - you should see your computer's disk in the file manager12:09
rootheadCarsekyx: I said, GPUs are an issue with Linux. Stick to low-end stuff. Heck, for NVIDIA I'd go with Lynx instead of Firefox12:09
chrmhoffmannyeats, I have clamav in amavis group and also the AllowSupplementaryGroups12:09
andryoh sorry, that is what it says in the link, too :P12:09
chrmhoffmannlooks rather some sort of cron issue.12:10
aliyaris there a way to expand the system partition without restart and boot from live disk ?12:10
yeatschrmhoffmann: ok - sorry - that was my best guess - you might check your system logs for further clues?12:10
rootheadgo X-less with Nvidia chipsets.12:10
chrmhoffmannyep. will do. thanks, yeats12:10
yeatsaliyar: nope12:10
shauntabletaliyar no12:10
aliyarok thx12:10
rootheadNVIDIA is a flippin' curb when it comes to Linux... and even to OGL on WIndows12:11
hitsujiTMOCarsekyx: there's no real issues in 13.10 with nvidia ... upgrade process does tend to mess up tho12:11
chrmhoffmannyeats, could you look at this please? it seems it's apparmor?12:12
chrmhoffmannhttp://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=kykH8AdM12:12
rootheadLinux is more robust but it comes at a hefty price12:12
shauntabletGot a 670 gtx but haven't upgraded yet12:12
CarsekyxhitsujiTMO, fresh install but every attempt seems to kill unity beyond recognition12:12
hitsujiTMOCarsekyx: can you paste your xorg.0.log12:12
CarsekyxhitsujiTMO, I've only had this install up for like 20 minutes, do you still want it?12:13
hitsujiTMOplease, what driver are you using?12:13
rootheadCarsekyx: Get IceWM and SpaceFM, register them as a combined desktop environment, use that12:13
roothead:D12:13
rootheadUnity screwnity12:13
shauntabletKde4life :-)12:14
andrychrmhoffmann, i disabled apparmor too when i configured dovecot, postfix and clamav/spamas.12:14
rootheadKopenbox4life12:14
shauntabletHaha recent convert really12:14
andryi run into a lot of problems and did not want to modify the apparm profiles12:14
chrmhoffmanni think it was working before upgrading to saucy12:14
CarsekyxhitsujiTMO, https://gist.github.com/anonymous/706873412:15
rootheadSuicidal salamander*12:15
andrychrmhoffmann, maybe a reinstall/reconfig of apparmor (and its profiles) can fix it too12:15
rootheadreally, suicidal12:15
yeats!behelpful | roothead12:15
ubotturoothead: As our !guidelines say, "When helping, be helpful". If you're not familiar with the issue at hand, let someone else handle it instead of making !offtopic comments or jokes.12:15
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ultim8Hi. I just installed playonlinux, opened the program and it says An updated version of playonlinux is available. Ubuntu software center doesn't recognize it.12:16
ssj5gokuI have recently tried ti create a live usb and tried to boot it but instaed of booting a message appears that "reeboot and select a proper bokt device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key"  and  it wont just go... what should I do. .. I am using windows and ubuntu as dual boot.....pls help..12:16
shauntabletssj5goku bios settings or get a dvd12:16
MonkeyDustultim8  close software center and try    sudo ap-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade12:17
ultim8MonkeyDust, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded12:18
yeatschrmhoffmann: not sure what exact lines need to be added to apparmor's clamav profile, but that looks like the direction you need to go in12:18
hitsujiTMOCarsekyx: i see no errors in the log at least, if you're having trouble i would suggest to try and switch to the proprietary drivers12:18
chrmhoffmannthe /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.freshclam is from Oct  8  2012 usr.bin.freshclam12:18
chrmhoffmannso that looks quite old...12:18
yeatschrmhoffmann: it probably just needs a single "r" line added for something in amavisd12:19
yeatsnot sure which file(s) it needs to read though12:19
rootheadI'm easily irritated, so if I see issues with the build worse than mine, I tend to come up with wacky comments like Suicidal Salamander, Tripping T-rex, Ugly Unicorn, Vomitting Viper, Weird Wolf, Zombified Zebra12:20
CarsekyxhitsujiTMO, but how? I got additional drivers from the store and it found nvidia drivers and I installed them and after reboot I just got a black screen and nothing would happen. When I tried to restart unity it gave me a compix (?) error.12:20
yeatsroothead: better to do that in #ubuntu-offtopic12:20
ultim8MonkeyDust, any advice?12:21
hitsujiTMOCarsekyx: this is a little out of date but should give you a good idea: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia12:21
sherkinHello there12:21
MonkeyDustultim8  no, as i don't use Wine12:21
shauntablet!compiz12:22
ubottuCompiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz12:22
sherkinI'm using xchat-gnome, and I can't disable autojoining the ubuntu channel. What's wrong ?12:22
hitsujiTMOCarsekyx: is it a laptop or desktop?12:22
sherkinIs xchat-gnome patched for ubuntu ?12:23
MonkeyDustsherkin  better ask in #xchat12:23
sherkinThanks for answering MonkeyDust, I just did. Patch was the answer12:24
sherkinI think it is a serious issue12:25
TKingdue to messed up UEFI in the past, i am unable to boot from USB. Is there a way to lauch it from terminal?12:25
shauntabletModify the source12:25
hitsujiTMOCarsekyx: if you're running a laptop with nvidia optimus have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee12:25
CarsekyxhitsujiTMO, it's a laptop. A Toshiba Satellite12:26
MonkeyDustsherkin  if it's really disturbing you, consider using another irc client12:26
k1lsherkin: xchat-gnome is a xchat version wich has reduced settings etc to meet the gnome style and settings guidelines. if you want the "real" gnome install the xchat without that -gnome12:26
hitsujiTMOCarsekyx: what nvidia gpu is it?12:27
sherkinThanks k1l. I think what decided me was the sound notifications, are they available in xchat ?12:27
k1lsherkin: yes of course12:28
foofoobarHi. Do use special keeys like volume up/down I need to press the FN key on my laptop keyboard12:28
foofoobarHow can I invert this ?12:28
CarsekyxhitsujiTMO, GeForce 450M I think12:28
TKingfrom grub> how do execute livecd12:28
sherkinOk I'm going to try. I think this autojoin feature is a bad flaw.12:30
hitsujiTMOCarsekyx: i do beleive optimus was introduced in 500 series ... so bumblebee will be no good ... just install the prop drivers12:31
Carsekyxusing additional drivers?12:31
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hitsujiTMOCarsekyx: yes, have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia also contains some additional tweaks for xorg conf for laptops if black screen12:34
CarsekyxhitsujiTMO, thanks for your help. I've got a friend running me through installing the drivers through the command line. Hopefully I won't have to start everything again but I might be back haha12:34
=== CaveJohnson is now known as Matrixiumn
BluesKaj"morning folks12:37
MonkeyDustBluesKaj  other timezone ;)12:38
BluesKajMonkeyDust. yeaah ,EDT12:38
BluesKajMonkeyDust. 8:40 AM here12:39
MonkeyDust2:40 pm here12:39
hitsujiTMOBluesKaj: go back to bed12:40
BluesKajnope.sun's up hitsujiTMO, time to start the day :)12:40
emmanueldoko12:40
TKinghow do i start grub.cfg from the grub prompt i am using ubuntu startup disk12:41
TKinghow do i start grub.cfg from the grub prompt i am using ubuntu startup USB12:42
ultim8BlueShark, good point)12:42
BluesKajTKing. choose the kernel and hit "e" to edit12:43
sherkin_#xchat12:44
neurehi12:46
TKingBlueaKaj how do i do it?12:46
neureim trying to install 13.10 in virtualbox, but installer keeps telling me I need x86-64 CPU12:46
TKingI want to backup my system since all is corrupt and cant boot to login screen or even LIVEusb. I only have grub prompt what can i do?12:48
nick____I use luatex. after upgradethe dynamic memory manager have problems. It ask me to increase buffsize when compiling.12:49
ssj5gokuCan anyone pla help me on my previous question12:49
BluesKajTKing. ok , then you need to , do ctrl+alt+F1 to F6 , then login and run an upate and upgrade12:50
ssj5gokuMy internet connection was down12:50
Walex2TKing: use a recovery CD/USB12:50
Walex2TKing: it is practically impossible that you cannot boot a liveCD or a USB stick.12:51
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Guest49050hello, where can i get help with mbr related problems? ;x12:52
testO33kkHi. I have got a very long text like this : http://vpaste.net/59rbZ   and I want to change all the lines to be like this text file:  http://vpaste.net/2gemH    so how can I do it by VIM!?12:52
ssj5gokuHow can I get my history for this chat12:53
TKingBluesKaj ctr+alt+1 to 6 didn't work12:53
HeliasHello guys, I want to put a program to the repo of Debian and Ubuntu, how can I do?12:54
BluesKajTKing. did you try ctr+alt+F1 first then F2 etc?12:55
TKingBlueaKaj yes i did12:55
TKingBluesKaj yes i did12:55
ssj5gokuAnyone pls hlp me12:56
BluesKajTKing. and the media /usb image doesn't boot in "try ubuntu " ?12:57
lost-unfountGreetins12:58
TKingBluesKaj, yes, it doesn't. I removed WIndows 8 in the past and since then i had problem after installing Ubuntu? i never got the try ubuntu screen because the bios boot options has ubuntu as first and changing it takes no effect12:58
Max-Mighthow do I start the upgrade process to upgrade to 13.10? (I have Ubuntu Gnome 13.4 and dont have update-manager installed)12:59
BluesKaj!uefi | TKing12:59
ubottuTKing: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI12:59
=== Kitar|st_ is now known as Kitar|st
BluesKajMax-Might. open a terminal and runa normal update and dist-upgrade first then , sudo do-release-upgrade13:01
Max-MightBluesKaj: will do, thanks :)13:03
* sherkin is back with real xchat13:03
Sagitthi, i've a problem with apache 2 and zoneminder. i've updated to 13.10 (new installation). before the update i've to do: ln -s /etc/zm/apache.conf /etc/apache2/conf.d/zoneminder.conf13:03
Sagittnow i've to do: ln -s /etc/zm/apache.conf /etc/apache2/conf-available/zoneminder.conf and ln -s /etc/zm/apache.conf /etc/apache2/conf-enabled/zoneminder.conf13:03
Sagittbut now if i restart and edit /etc/apache2/httpd.conf with ServerName localhost, if i try to enter in the zoneminder webpage. won't work13:04
Sagittwhy?13:04
Hackwarhi folks, if I wanted to have a media server: XBMC or PlexMediaServer?13:05
* sherkin thinks the ubuntu version of freenode channel is confusing13:05
jribSagitt: i don't know about zoneminder but you may be interested in using the a2enmod command instead of creating symlinks directly13:06
babbleHey all: I'm in Ubuntu 13.04 and the top panel clock is showing "No date yet" and selecting dates in the calendar is disabled. What should I do to fix?13:06
Sagittjrib: ? a2enmod what is?13:07
jribSagitt: it is a command that automatically creates links from conf-available to conf-enabled13:08
Sagittwell, wait. i'll try13:08
jribSagitt: it should not make a difference, it might just make your life easier (type less)13:08
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Sagittjrib13:09
Sagitthow i can create links for zoneminder with a2enmod ?13:09
RishabhTatirajuI have an issue here, Software Updater hangs after finishing update check13:09
RishabhTatirajuI cannot upgrade to 13.1013:09
RishabhTatiraju:/13:09
TKingBluesKai In your BIOS, disable QuickBoot/FastBoot and Intel Smart Response Technology (SRT). If you have Windows8, also disable FastStartup.  All this options are not available on my PC13:10
TKingBluesKaj In your BIOS, disable QuickBoot/FastBoot and Intel Smart Response Technology (SRT). If you have Windows8, also disable FastStartup.  All this options are not available on my PC13:10
Sagittjrib: sagitt@SAGITTSERVER:~$ a2enmod zoneminder13:10
SagittERROR: Module zoneminder does not exist!13:10
RishabhTatirajuI tried leaving Software Updater overnight, no change, gave the process high priority, CPU jumps to 100% but no change, it remains hanged. Is there a way from the terminal that i can install 13.10, without using Soft Updater13:11
RishabhTatiraju?13:11
jribSagitt: ls /etc/apache2/conf-available13:12
Sagittthere is not zoneminder13:12
jribSagitt: but didn't you run the ln command before/13:12
Sagittroot@SAGITTSERVER:/home/sagitt# ls /etc/apache2/conf-available13:13
Sagittcharset.conf            localized-error-pages.conf    security.conf13:13
Sagittjavascript-common.conf  other-vhosts-access-log.conf  serve-cgi-bin.conf13:13
RishabhTatirajuwill "do-release-upgrade" command do the work?13:14
jribSagitt:  ln -s /etc/zm/apache.conf /etc/apache2/conf-available/zoneminder.conf     should have created a file there13:14
Sagittyes13:14
Sagitti done it now13:14
TKingplease how can i boot a live USB from grub >13:15
Sagittnow there is zoneminder.conf13:15
Sagittbut a2enmod zoneminder do the same13:15
ssj5subhashishI had created a live usb andcwhen I reebooted the pc it showed me an error message "Reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key" ...and the pc w0ont judt start.... what shouldvi do....pls help13:16
RishabhTatirajuanybody?13:17
metawolfSo i was wondering if ubuntu 13.10 has any overheating protection? I have a slim model laptop with an nvidia geforce gt620m(and an intel hd 4000, using optimus) which can generate a reasonable amount of heat when gaming. Yesterday i was playing Nexuiz with my friends and all of a sudden my laptop shutdown, first showing me the ubuntu splash screen.13:19
metawolfI rebooted and started the game again, and everything was working perfect. Until some time has passed, and it shutdown again.13:20
bekksmetawolf: Your hardware needs to have overheating protection, software cant do it.13:20
metawolfSo it was just a coincidence that ubuntu shutdown?13:21
TKinghow do i boot my LiveUSB from grub> prompt since its my only option to access the liveUSB. i did it before with some similar commands like, insmod -l, (hd1, gpt2) its old but things would have changed as i cant remember how it worked13:21
metawolfOr did the hardware signal ubuntu that it was overheating?13:21
bekksmetawolf: No. The hardware told the OS using ACPI to shutdown immediately.13:21
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metawolfOh, now i understand. thank you for responding!13:22
biondo34ciao13:24
biondo34!list13:24
ubottubiondo34: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».13:24
Laif_Hi13:26
Laif_How can I make Google Chrome .Deb install in Ubuntu 12.04?13:26
Laif_it says libgcc1 is wrong version13:26
bekksLaif_: run sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade, to update to current versions of packages.13:27
Laif_system is fully updated13:27
Laif_even sudo dpkg -i won't work with sudo apt-get install -f13:28
bekksLaif_: Please pastebin the full outputs. I am running latest chrome on 12.04 without problems.13:29
TKinghow do i boot my LiveUSB from grub> prompt since its my only option to access the liveUSB. i did it before with some similar commands like, insmod -l, (hd1, gpt2) its old but things would have changed as i cant remember how it worked13:29
Laif_Dependency is not satisfiable: lib32gcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1)13:29
bekksLaif_: Thats one line, and not the full output.13:29
Laif_you want the sudo dpkg -i output?13:30
bekksLaif_: If want the full outputs of  dpkg -i  and  apt-get install -f13:30
bekksLaif_: Please use a pastebin service.13:30
Laif_mom13:30
TKinghow can i boot LiveUSB13:31
TKinghow can i boot LiveUSB it wouldn't boot on startup no matter what i did, but works on other PC13:32
bekksTKing: Insert the USB, boot from it using, by choosing "USB Boot" from the BIOS boot order.13:32
Laif_http://pastebin.com/cpdjhtmG13:32
axisyskeyboard works for xterm but not for firefox or gnome-terminal.. what gives?13:32
Laif_there :)13:32
TKingbekks, that us selected13:32
bekksLaif_: Do you have a 64bit system?13:33
Laif_no13:33
Laif_32 bit13:34
maxхехей13:34
maxвсем привет13:35
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cfhowlett!ru|Guest58230,13:35
ubottuGuest58230,: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.13:35
odraHey :D13:35
Laif_hi :)13:36
odraThe audio on my pc is broken, when I put it on max it seems to be beyond the value it should be and it starts going off and back on13:36
Laif_any ideas bekks?13:36
Lopei've got an intel + nvidia laptop. just using whatever open source drivers came with linux mint 15 x64 (running mate). how can I make sure the nvidia is off?13:36
odraHow do I fix it? :(13:36
th3pun15h3ranyone else using gnomenu on ubuntu 12.04? if so did you just add the ppa or have to install from source or know of a deb package?  trying to fix mine on awn13:36
th3pun15h3rLope, why not use the nvidia? its much better than intel13:37
* th3pun15h3r so wants a laptop with a nvidia card13:37
Lopei want to use minimum power13:37
th3pun15h3rAh kk13:37
Laif_intels drivers are actually pretty nice13:37
* odra has a intel card13:37
th3pun15h3rya you can add the intel ppa13:38
Lopehow do I check what gfx drivers I'm using?13:38
odraOnboard lower-than-the-ground end intel card.13:38
th3pun15h3rim favoring nvidia in regard for gaming though13:38
Laif_which ubuntu version are you using?13:38
th3pun15h3ryou can check in your details13:38
Laif_ah yeah. nvidias binary drivers are great :)13:38
odraI just upgraded to 13.10 I need help fixing up my audio :(13:38
odraWhen I put the volume on max it goes off and on and off and on13:38
odraI think maybe my drivers don't know their upper limit.13:39
babbleHey all: I'm in Ubuntu 13.04 and the top panel clock is showing "No date yet" and selecting dates in the calendar is disabled. What should I do to fix?13:39
th3pun15h3rdamn it, gnomenu ppa is a 404 not found.13:39
th3pun15h3rblargh13:39
LopeI'm downloading the latest intel open source drivers in hopes of using less power on my intel-nvidia laptop (uses 24w idle at the moment) ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/intel-graphics-updates how can I make sure my nvidia chipset is powered down?13:45
TKinghow can i boot LiveUSB it wouldn't boot on startup no matter what i did, but works on other PC13:45
tozenTKing: u have to chenge bios settings13:46
tozen*change13:47
bekksTKing: And you have to disable secure boot in case it is enabled.13:47
Basil1xOK... Ubuntu13.10.  I installed the Xfce desktop, and it played with all my icons.  I've restored the ones on Unity, but those on the topbar are still wrong.  Also, I want to restore my bootsplash to 'Ubuntu' instead of 'Xubuntu'.13:47
tozenBasil1x: boot splash can be desable/enable configuring /etc/default/grub file13:48
tozenBasil1x: and dont forget to activate sudo grub-update after all13:48
Basil1xThat's perfectly charming.  I have absolutely no Idea how to manage that, or what the original files were called in any case.13:49
=== Thorium220 is now known as Thor|Away
tozenBasil1x: well <sudo nano /etc/default/grub> then fund string with GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=""13:51
TKingbekks, i have read everything possible online, disabled secure boot, enable it done everything from forums and help from here years back and today? but 1 way that always worked is to access grub.cfg from the USB that is the only magic so anyone know how i can get into /boot/ in my usb?13:51
SunTsuYay, do-release-upgrade blocks SIGWINCH therefore resizing a terminal window when e.g. inspecting a config file change the term won't be notified about the new size, effectively keeping vimdiff from showing info in more than the 24x20 window dimension I started do-release-upgrade in13:51
tozenBasil1x: change it to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="splash" then trl+O -->> Enter -->> Ctrl+X -->> Enter13:52
tozenBasil1x:  and <sudo grub-update> after all13:53
faugusztinBasil1x: sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth13:53
Basil1xRight!  Thanks13:53
faugusztinBasil1x: if you want to swap xubuntu for ubuntu or other theme13:53
Star-Flowerhave there been many problems reported with upgrading?13:53
faugusztinBasil1x: after that sudo update-initramfs -u13:54
Basil1xPerfect!  Thanks, hons... now... about those icons...13:56
d-eggHi, I am wondering what starts gpg-agent and how can i configure it to write the env-file (something changed in saucy obviously)13:56
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bekksTKing: You do not need to touch grub at all for telling your computer to boot from USB.13:58
bekksTKing: You need to have a bootable USB.13:58
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=== proby is now known as megabraker
Raphaelhi14:00
JohannesTNHello folks, when installing xbmc by following this wiki http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Installing_XBMC_for_Linux#Ubuntu which I think should install xbmc 12.2, all I am getting is xbmc 11.9 april 24 2012 - does anyone know why it ain't installing the latest verion of xbmc? - thank you14:00
MonkeyDusti have that too: usb boots on one laptop, not on the other, even after changing the BIOS14:01
tiinaHi I cant install a new clean ubuntu installation or update and upgrade Maverick I now have on my ubuntu computer??14:01
RaphaelI'm dual booting Ubuntu and windows 8 and seemed to install it successfully, but it doesn't boot to anything any more. so I'm reinstalling it using"something else". what mount points should i prescribe to everything?14:01
auronandaceJohannesTN: why don't you want to use the version in the repos?14:01
JohannesTNActually I thought that xbmc 12.2 was the newest in the repos as it is the version you'll get if you install xbmcbuntu14:03
tozenRaphael: r u sure u steel have windows partition left?14:03
axisyskeyboard is working now.. I needed to change the input method from default to none in Language Support14:03
MonkeyDust!u | tozen14:03
ubottutozen: U is the 21st letter of the modern latin alphabet. Neither 'U' nor 'Ur' are words in the English language. Neither are 'R', 'Y', 'l8', 'ryt',  'Ne1' nor 'Bcuz'. Mangled English is hard for non-native English speakers. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/abbreviations/ for more information.14:03
auronandace!info xbmc | JohannesTN14:04
ubottuJohannesTN: xbmc (source: xbmc): XBMC Media Center (arch-independent data package). In component universe, is optional. Version 2:12.0~git20130103.0959-rc3-0ubuntu4 (saucy), package size 20605 kB, installed size 38161 kB14:04
megabraker!g | megabraker14:04
Raphaeltozen: yes. i have a list of partitions and there is a windows recovery, boot, and main partition, and an Ubuntu boot and main partition14:04
Dudytz hi all! how to disable the "auto mount" of usb devices? or if possible, how to define the default location of usb storage mount? (another path than /media/[label]14:04
RaphaelI've mounted the main Ubuntu partition as /, what should i set as /boot?14:05
tiinaHi I cant install a new clean ubuntu installation or update and upgrade Maverick I now have on my ubuntu computer??14:05
JohannesTNI would like to install version 12,2 as is is listed as "Current stable release" at xbmc.org, how can I do it?14:05
bekkstiina: you can do both.14:06
auronandaceJohannesTN: installing software from outside the official repos means that we can't support that here, just so you are aware14:07
tozenRaphael: so / is moint point for main system files /home could be another partition for your home folder so you'll be able to keep in safe place important docs, audio or videos14:07
tozen*mount14:07
RayZaHey there! Is anyone running Ubuntu 13.10 with fglrx?14:07
tiinabekks DOSENT FUNCTIONING??? in my maverick how to update and upgrade Maverick?14:08
tozenRaphael: not really needed to split them that way, pal14:08
JohannesTNI am aware of that, does that mean you won't help me figure out how to install it then?14:08
bekks!eolupgrade | tiina14:08
ubottutiina: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades14:08
Raphaeli don't care about that, I'm fine with having /home in /, i just want to boot, what should i set as /boot?14:08
MerisWhich version/ variant like Lubuntu, Xubuntu can I run on my Intel MacBook from 2007? It needs to be able to boot from the CD and that can be a bit tricky, because it does not support all bootloader modes. I want to run it beside MacOSX, using the BootCamp partition which had WinXP installed on it.14:08
bekksRaphael: you dont need a separate /boot14:08
tiinaDOSENT HELP HAVE TRIED14:08
bekkstiina: Then you have to reinstall14:09
kostkontiina, do a clean install then. backup your files first, dont forget that14:09
tiinaDOSENT WORK EITHER???14:09
yeats!caps | tiina14:09
ubottutiina: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.14:09
tiinayeah14:09
tozenRaphael: i recomend you to dont place /boot separately14:09
Basil1xTop right of the screen, where my little system button is, the icon for it has gone, to be replaced by what looks like a red Ø in a box.  How can I get my gear icon back?14:09
Raphaelbekks thanks, so i should just set / and not set anything else as anything else and just install?14:09
yeatstiina: did you ever figure out if your BIOS supports USB boot?14:10
bekksRaphael: Yes.14:10
tiinaHave tried nothing is correct beacuse of 404 error14:10
Raphaelcheers14:10
bekkstiina: 404 where?14:10
tiinaYes dosent help either!14:10
bekkstiina: Our glass orbs are quite dusty today.14:10
tiinawhen I tried to update and upgrade maverick14:10
Dudytz hi all ... by default all the plugged usb devices are auto mounted in /media/[label of the partition] ... it's possible to define a specific rule for a specific device? eg. mount a specific usb hard drive to a custom location14:10
auronandaceRaphael: swap partition is also recommended but not strictly necessary14:11
bekkstiina: and "doesnt work" and "doesnt help" are - just generic statements and do not tell anything about failures, errors, etc.14:11
tozenauronandace: if RAM is over 4Gigs14:11
tiinahow can I update and upgrade Maverick then???14:11
yeatstiina: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#Upgrade shows how you would upgrade from Maverick14:11
tiinaHave read that yet nothing seems to help14:12
auronandacetozen: if you want to suspend/hibernate (i never remember which) you need swap that is at least the same size as ram14:12
cfhowletttiina, highly advise you to torrent the release you want (12.04 is supported for 5 years) and clean install.14:12
yeatstiina: did you change your sources list?14:12
MonkeyDusttiina  and you can't fresh install a newer release?14:13
yeatsMonkeyDust: (s)he apparently isn't able to boot from USB or CD14:13
tozenauronandace: agreed14:14
reisioauronandace: both "suspend" and "hibernate" are generic terms for different degrees of "sleep" :p14:14
reisiohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Configuration_and_Power_Interface#Global_states14:14
reisioyou could refer to them precisely by the s#, but then of course nobody would know what you meant, heh14:14
MonkeyDustreisio  suspend saves to ram, hibernate saves to disk, it's not the same thing14:15
reisio'hybrid sleep' is what everyone wants anyways14:15
reisioMonkeyDust: who said it was14:15
tiinaMonkeyDust: No anything at all not the new one or update or upgra the old one...14:16
korisnikhow to run clojure (clj) file on ubuntu?14:16
reisiokorisnik: install 'clojure'?14:17
MerisWhich version/ variant like Lubuntu, Xubuntu can I run on my Intel MacBook from 2007? It needs to be able to boot from the CD and that can be a bit tricky, because it does not support all bootloader modes. I want to run it beside MacOSX, using the BootCamp partition which had WinXP installed on it. It has 2GB of RAM, an Intel Core Duo 2 at 1.2GHz, Intel GMA950 GPU and a 320GB HDD14:17
reisiokorisnik: particular Lisp interpreter14:17
auronandace!mac | Meris14:18
ubottuMeris: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages14:18
reisioMeris: I'd go with the latest version you can get14:18
korisnikreisio, i installed leiningen14:18
Merisauronandace, thx for the link14:18
reisiokorisnik: so?14:19
TKingbekks, i have a bootable USB it works on other pcs except this one14:20
tozenTKing: you got expected solutions already... ;)14:22
TKingbekks i understand, i have done secure boot off and on but it never solves the problem. One guy helped me solved this around January i used, commands like insmod, ls -l , boot/grub.cfg and when i hit escape i got to the try ubuntu screen14:22
Merisreisiso, last time I tried that, the CD didn't boot, because of the limited boot loader support on a Mac of that era. Lucid Lynx (10.04), the latest decribed OS on the Mac-specific help pages of Ubuntu is a bit too old to run safely.14:23
TKingtozen no solution yet, i got this problem when i tried to update to 13.10 which got stock14:23
jurassikhi all14:24
TKingpls how can i load kernel from USB14:24
jurassikwho knows why i dont have new GUI in my xubuntu?14:24
reisiojurassik: new?14:25
Merisjurassik, please elaborate14:25
tozenjurassik: so what you have now?14:25
zteamHi all14:25
odraHey :(14:25
cfhowlettzteam, greetings14:25
reisioyo14:26
odraMy audio is broken, help :u14:26
odraWhen I put the volume on maximum it starts turning off14:26
zteamIs there any way to enable drag and drop in Ubuntu 13.04, (so dash maximize the window, of the application I tries to drop my file too)?14:27
zteamcfhowlett, greetings14:27
zteam:-)14:27
zteamin Windows that is super easy, but I never been able to do that with Ubuntu14:28
silv3r_m00nhi there14:28
jurassikzteam there is programm for that !14:28
silv3r_m00non my ubuntu server, /var/log/syslog is empty, why ?14:28
silv3r_m00nisnt it supposed to fill up14:29
zteamjurassik, sounds good, do you know the name of that application /package?14:29
jurassikmmmm i dont remember look for it in google14:30
jurassikor in Software Ubuntu Service14:30
c107Where can I get all the system art for Feisty Fawn?14:31
reisioc107: which art?14:32
c107reisbo: icons, wallpaper, GDM theme -- everything.14:33
c107reisio14:33
reisiowell the easy way would be to download a copy of Ubuntu 7.04, wouldn't it14:33
munerfhello, after updating to 13.10, I lost internet access14:34
c107reisio: I have an ISO.  I may boot into it and come back.  Does it run from a flash drive?14:34
munerfhello, after updating to 13.10, I lost internet access, can you help me debug it?14:35
zero1hello all, I recently installed ubuntu-gnome 13.04, yet when I run screenfetch it lists my DE as Unity 7.0.0 (I also had to turn off amazon search, etc) is this normal or did I somehow end up with an ubuntu installation from an ubuntu-gnome iso?14:36
zteamjurassik, I have googled for it14:36
reisioc107: you can probably make it do so, with the likes of unetbootin14:36
reisioc107: you can also just mount it, & unsquashfs it14:36
cfhowlettc107, there should be an official page with the art on ubuntu - at least that's the case with ubuntustudio14:37
TKingI tried this and it is not working http://askubuntu.com/questions/21342/how-can-i-load-ubuntu-when-all-i-have-is-grub how can i load ubuntu if i only got grub14:37
c107reisio how do I Mount it? it seems to pull up in an archiver in trisquel (gnome3fallbavk). I had a bootable drive before, erased the Trisquel files and copied the Parabola files from the opened ISO. it worked. do this with feisty iso?14:38
reisiodon't know what trisquel or parabola are :)14:39
c107reisio trisq is Ubuntu. parab is arch14:39
paulo_boa tarde14:39
c107FSF approved14:40
jurassikzteam and what he is saying ?14:40
c107ola paulo_14:40
reisioc107: and you want to do what now?14:40
zteamjurassik, well so far I didn't find much...14:40
zteamjurassik, only a bug-report claiming it worked in 11.0414:40
c107reisio: install feisty art on trisquel or arch14:41
c107*parabola14:41
zteamjurassik, it feels like I'm looking for some compiz plugin but I don't know14:41
jurassikzteam, fuck i need to dont forget =) i just fucking cant =( i sow that yestoday14:41
andryhm .. just noticed the mark/middle-click clipboard :P14:42
TKingcan someone work me through loading a try ubuntu cd from grub or load the kernel if grub> is the only option? my bootable doesn't work due to some complicated reasons which is unsolvable. I just need help from commandline as it is the only thing that would work14:43
zteamjurassik, not anything you saw in the browser?14:43
smrpHi, I am using 13.04 I have moved my Minimize, Maximize and close buttons to the right using gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences button-layout ':minimize,maximize,close'  any idea how to get them back to the left? lol...14:43
c107Ō, reisio.14:44
Seveassmrp: same command, but move the ':' to the end14:44
xgeek-cubhello14:44
jurassikzteam, and in Ubuntu Software Center?14:44
xgeek-cubwhich one is better BFQ scheduler or Deadline ?14:44
andryTKing, can you boot the cd and then do this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair14:44
TKingcan someone work me through loading a try ubuntu cd from grub or load the kernel if grub> is the only option? my bootable doesn't work due to some complicated reasons which is unsolvable (UEFI). I just need help from commandline as it is the only thing that would work14:44
smrpSeveas: Thank you :-)14:44
Seveasxgeek-cub: depends on the workload. *C*FQ is good for desktops14:45
reisioSeveas: also close,minimize,maximize14:45
Seveasreisio: could be. I haven't had the buttons there for more than 2 minutes :)14:45
xgeek-cubSeveas: what happens if i am a desktop and i use BFQ?14:45
reisioSeveas: sorry wrong person :)14:45
reisiosmrp: also close,minimize,maximize14:45
reisioxgeek-cub: you conquer the world14:46
TKingandry its a liveUSB sorry. UEFI give me real problem. I have followed everything.. but lenovo is a problem. The link you gave me didn't solve the problem14:46
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andryhm uefi :/ dont know sorry, didnt use it for my new pc14:46
xgeek-cubreisio: point being?14:46
zteamjurassik, well, I did first searching in synaptic, and didn't find anything....14:47
c107hahahaha all my hardware is from 2009. I have never seen UEFI14:47
reisioxgeek-cub: nothing happens, you have a different scheduler14:47
zteamjurassik, but a search in software center points me to desktop-preferences14:47
Seveasxgeek-cub: dunno, never heard of it. Quick googling says it's CFQ+cgroups for more control. Should be fine14:47
xgeek-cubdoess bfq speed up the processes14:47
moppywhere has the 'show desktop' launcher icon gone on saucy? i upgraded and lost it.14:48
TKingandry, i hate to mention UEFI because it diverts what i request? a way to boot kernel or run grub.cfg something like that from terminal14:48
andrymoppy, didnt you but it there with unity-tweak-tool? :)14:48
Seveasxgeek-cub: only one way to find out: test and measure/14:48
andryput*14:48
zteamjurassik, never mind, it was just a file mananger :p14:48
kostkonmoppy, have to reenable it in appearance14:48
zteammoppy, install Unity-tweaker from software-center, there is a option to get it back with that I thinlk14:49
dingo_i am trying to set my terminal. right now echo $TERM returns 'screen'. i have tried sudo update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator, i select option 4, for me xterm. no luck term is still screen14:49
Seveasmoppy: ccsm (compiz-config-settings-manager) can put it back for you14:49
moppyandry: kostkon zteam seveas thanks all i will have a look for it. truth be told i do not remember how it got there.14:49
dingo_google for terminal and screen returns lots of non relevant results14:49
c1072Where on Ubuntu.com is Feisty icons, wallpaper, GDM?14:50
Seveasdingo_: err, you're doing it wrong :)14:50
kostkonc1072, feisty?14:50
xtrizhow can i remove the the partially downloaded files during the update ?14:50
kostkonc1072, you mean the art from 7.04?14:50
c1072kostkon, yes.14:51
Seveas$TERM is set by the terminal emulater, it's merely an indication of capabilities. Why do you want to change it/what are you trying to achieve?14:51
dingo_Seveas: really, lol, i think i got that  much14:51
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kostkonc1072, find the package that contains them and then download it from here http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/14:51
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kostkonc1072, package(s) and then you'll need to extract not install it14:52
cfhowlettc1072, and then save the artwork on your ubuntuone or similar resource!  I've done so with all the Ubuntustudio art ...14:52
dingo_Seveas: well i want to change it from screen to xterm for no reason other than i want to.14:52
Seveasdingo_: in that case, use this command: export TERM=xterm14:52
is_nullwow, 13.10 is so less responsive than 13.0414:53
Seveasand to make that permanent, add it to your ~/.bashrc14:53
is_nullie. i press Super+1 and it14:53
xtrizhow can i remove the the partially downloaded files during the update ?14:53
c1072looking, kostkon. thx14:53
is_nulltakes so long to switch window, sometimes it just spawns the launcher14:53
Seveasxtriz: what update?14:53
is_nulleven vim takes more time catching Esc14:53
jurassikwho knows why i dont have new GUI in my xubuntu? i meat this search tool14:53
jurassikwho knows why i dont have new GUI in my xubuntu? i mean this new cool search tool =(((14:54
kostkonjurassik, could you show us a screenshot14:54
dingo_Seveas: thank you. i googled and read around but never saw that simple command.14:55
cfhowlettjurassik, screenshot14:55
zteamWhat do you guys think of Ubuntu 13.10 by the way?14:55
zteamIs it a nice upgrade?14:56
jurassikhm.. how i can show it to you?14:56
cfhowlett!paste|jurassik, screenshot then paste14:56
ubottujurassik, screenshot then paste: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.14:56
jurassikfile:///home/jurassik/Desktop/Screenshot%20-%20201013%20-%2015:55:44.png14:56
cfhowlettjurassik, yeah, that's useless.  use imagebin.org14:57
TKinghow do i list msdos mode14:57
jurassik? what is wrong?14:57
jurassikexplain14:58
kostkonjurassik, i dont see any search tool in the latest xubutnu http://xubuntu.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/xubuntu-13.04-desktop.png14:58
cfhowlettjurassik, you pasted a link to YOUR machine.  NOT an image14:58
kostkonjurassik, is it supposed to be on the desktop somewhere?14:58
cfhowlettjurassik, put it on imagebin.  get the imagebin link and post it here14:58
kostkondamn it's 13.0414:58
jurassikyes on the desktop where u have all your software ! it should be like transperrant search tool what u have in ubuntu14:59
kostkonjurassik, you mean the... dash?14:59
cfhowlettjurassik, lens is on unity.  xubuntu doesn't use unity.15:00
cfhowlett!dash15:00
ubottu/bin/sh links to the DASH shell in all releases since Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to « #! /bin/bash15:00
jurassikthats baaad15:01
dingo_Seveas: still says screen inside tmux. so i assume this is a tmux issue?15:01
kostkonjurassik, xubuntu is a lighter alternative to ubuntu using the xfce desktop environment15:02
cfhowlettjurassik, you might have to switch to ubuntu to get it.  I don't think dash in integrated into anything except unity.15:02
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jurassikok  ok thanks you very much =) but my laptop is too old for that i think!15:03
jaldharquick question: is saucy a long term release?  If not which is the next one?15:03
kostkonjaldhar, no. next lts is 14.04 in april next year15:03
cfhowlettjaldhar, 6 months on saucy.  next LTS is 14.0415:04
cfhowlettjaldhar, 12.04 is LTS and supported for 5 years.15:04
jaldharcool.  thanks.15:04
eflynnwhat do i need in sources.list to install links package? I have just 'saucy main'15:04
kostkon!info links saucy15:05
ubottulinks (source: links2): Web browser running in text mode. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7-2ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 449 kB, installed size 1068 kB15:05
kostkoneflynn, apt-cache policy links15:05
eflynnkostkon: thanks15:09
RyuzakiHi15:09
reisiohi Ryuzaki15:09
jurassikwhere i can dwonload new Ubuntu OS (good) ???15:09
reisiojurassik: whereabouts are you geographically?15:09
RyuzakiAnyone see The Fifth Estate this weekend?15:09
kostkonjurassik, http://ubuntu.com/download15:09
kostkon!ot | Ryuzaki15:09
ubottuRyuzaki: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!15:09
RyuzakiOhh Ok thanks.15:10
kostkon;)15:10
jurassikreisio what u meen?15:10
reisiour00pl: http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu-releases/15:10
reisioerm15:10
reisiojurassik: http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu-releases/15:10
jurassikkostko thaks15:10
jurassikreisio !? how did u know that i am an .ie ?15:12
RyuzakiI got a question15:12
kostkonjurassik, one way is to whois your ip, in most cases it gives your isp info15:12
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eflynnRyuzaki: you're not allowed to have questions15:12
reisiojurassik: magicks15:13
jurassikkostkon ! alright =) u hacker facker xDD15:13
Ryuzakican two people talk on the same channel from different servers? Or do they have to be on the same server and same channel15:13
reisiocertainly not by you answering my simple question :p15:13
jurassik=)15:13
reisio10gbps, IE is nice15:13
andrywow .. just replaced gnome-screnshot with shutter .. want to share it .. has ftp upload and stuff15:13
jurassikreisio , yes just like magician15:14
GiiNG3RASSASSiNHey guys, I've managed to uninstall windows off my PC and put Ubuntu 12.04 on and my problem is now it won't load up at all, any help please.15:14
jurassikyou and Ubuntu Saucy Salamander it good ?15:15
neurehmmh15:16
neurethere doesnt seem to be font settings anywhere in control center?15:16
xtrizSeveas, i had done software update , and the  packages were downloaded partially, so i want to remove the partially downloaded packages.15:17
jurassikreisio,kostkon,Ubuntu Saucy Salamander is good ?15:17
OerHeksjurassik, try it yourself and let us kniw15:18
OerHeks*know15:18
jurassikalright15:18
jurassik=)15:18
jurassiksmart ass15:19
jurassik=)15:19
FloodBot1jurassik: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:19
neurehow do i install a font?15:19
jurassik????15:19
OerHeksjurassik, so what answer did you want?15:19
dingo_Seveas: dont know if you saw my other message. its still showing 'screen' inside tmux. so i assume this is a tmux issue? i even removed screen15:19
jurassikno,that answer is ok ! just lol15:20
zteamIs there any torrent-lens available to 13.10?15:22
moppyjurassik: I personally have not had any major issues with Saucy upgrade, and I notice the launcher is prettier.15:26
moppydo we know any image viewer that can open a thumbnail view of a folder *AND* can read inside archives?15:27
BrianHIs anyone able to run system-config-kickstart on 13.10?15:27
kostkon!download | zteam15:29
ubottuzteam: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Saucy, and help keeping the servers' load low!15:29
TKingam trying to load ubuntu from USB where grub is my only option, i have done the following: insmod part_msdos and also did "ls (hd1, msdos1)/" but don't know how to load the bootload so i can try ubuntu15:30
jurassikmoppy, thank you ! =) i already started downloading =)15:30
BrianHTKing: why not use unetbootin?15:30
jurassikand that .iso file i need to burn on cd?15:30
wilee-nileeTKing, grub on the computer?15:31
subcoolcould someone point me in the direction of the wemin thing for raid, mdadm -15:33
subcoolim googling the heck out of it- but google doesnt like me.15:33
SchrodingersScatso, my 13.04 ubuntu-server says I should 'do-release-upgrade' to upgrade to 13.10, but I thought I saw someone in here say not to do that.  What?15:33
neurehow do i get a different theme?15:33
neurei want a dark theme15:34
neurei only see 3 themes15:34
TKingwilee-nilee, my system doesn't run the LiveUSB no matter what. So i remember i did have the Livcd boot following the above command so i want to know if anyone done it before or have a clue15:34
zteamkostkon, Well, I know about, I was asking if there was a torrent-lens, avaiable to 13,10 (it search torrent-sites from dash)15:34
TKingmaybe i need to load grub.cfg or something but i am not sure15:34
kostkonzteam, oh15:34
subcoolnevermind, ofcourse after i ask i find it..15:35
BrianHsubcool: http://www.linuxmanpages.com/man5/mdadm.conf.5.php15:35
subcoolnot what i came across, but always helpful..15:35
subcoolthanks15:35
zteamTKing, are you trying to add a ubuntu ISO-file to grub?15:36
wilee-nileeTKing, You can boot an iso from grub2 if its on the computer.15:37
root_wormHello , I am new in ubuntu, ad i recently install 12.04.03 and now  i am missing FIFA 11. so please help me...how can i play fifa 11 in ubuntu15:37
root_worm???15:37
TKingwilee-nilee? all i see is grub> how do i make it grub2> if15:38
wilee-nileeTKing, grub> is a grub 2 notation, you are not making any sense to be honest.15:38
moppyroot_worm: that game does work in Linux. you will need to use the WINE windows 'emulator' and install it in that.15:39
moppyroot_worm: If that's too technical, playonlinux.com has a package for it15:39
root_wormohk thank you. and some one suggest me PlayOn Linux15:39
root_wormwat is tht then?15:39
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wilee-nilee!details | TKing15:40
moppyroot_worm: I'd agree then, use Playonlinux.com15:40
ubottuTKing: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."15:40
root_wormohh ok ok i understand, thank you so much15:40
root_worm:)15:40
neurehelp - i need to get some other theme15:40
stevecoh1I just installed ubuntu 12.04 (previously 10.04).  Somewhere between these Ubuntu switched to a Macintosh-like UI.  If I don't like this, how may I turn it off and go back to the windowing system that was there in the earlier version.15:41
zteamTKing, I think you are looking for this :-)15:41
zteamTKing, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/02/how-to-boot-iso-with-grub2-easy-way.html15:41
m3kkneure, other theme of what? Unity?15:41
neureyeah15:41
neureis there a way to get dark theme for unity?15:41
neureor can i just switch to say openbox?15:42
m3kkneure, gnome-look.org15:42
wilee-nileezteam, I don't think they can get to the OS, grub> is a grub not booting.15:42
neurem3kk, so how do i install those?15:42
m3kkneure, install unity tweak tools from USC15:42
moppystevecoh1: You can look at 'xubuntu' for an alternative desktop, there are also gnome2 forks out there15:43
neureusc? tweak tool?15:43
m3kkneure, you can also "sudo nautilus" so you open filebrowser with admin rights  and copy the theme to /usr/share/themes15:43
m3kkneure, "unity tweak tool" from Ubuntu Software Center15:43
zteamwilee-nilee, TKing: if that's the case , I suggest to use boot-repair this software fixed my grub-issues in about twenty seconds15:44
stevecoh1moppy: thanks.  So no way to change look/feel without installing something new?15:44
neureah15:45
neurethe tweak tool15:45
m3kkneure, yeah its pretty handy15:45
neurewhy is it not part of system settings?15:45
m3kkneure, i have no clue. i think it should be there built in15:45
zteamstevecoh1, if u are using Ubuntu 1315:46
m3kkneure, they are making some weird choices15:46
neurei cant seem to be able to change theme colors from it though15:46
psychologehello,everybody,i upgraded ubuntu to 13.10.everything is work fine.but has a problem about wifi.if i used bcmwl-kernel-source ,i can find and connect wifi.but can't access internet..if i not used this driver ,my computer can find only one wifi(in my room ,is my wireless router),and signal intensity is very weak,i can access internet. .15:46
zteamstevecoh1, if you are using Ubuntu 13.04 or earlier you can just install gnome-fallback-session15:46
anonymous_hi ! tried to use webdavs (https) on linux and windows and its working pretty fast except at the end it takes up to 5 minutes until the copy job is done  .... any suggestions what to do ?15:47
m3kkneure, you can install a theme..15:47
neuredoes the gui let me do that somehow?15:47
m3kkneure, i dont think you can just change colors15:47
TKingwilee-nilee, sorry, am not really an expert am just trying hard to explain things. Actually, i want to boot the liveUSB so i can see the "try ubuntu" and then try to install fresh ubuntu. My reasons for wanting to go via grub is that, i have used it before and because my PC doesn't boot liveUSB (with boot from USB enabled in bios, UEFI, disabled or enabled QuickBoot off or on)15:47
neure: (15:47
stevecoh1I just went to 12.04.  (Because that is what the update manager offered).  What are the advantages of 13.04?15:47
neurei remember in openbox i was able to edit theme colors with some program15:47
m3kkneure, yeah in unity tweak toool15:47
neureit justs lists available themes15:48
m3kkneure, and after you install them you can change theme in regular desktop settings where you chose wallpaper.. you see 2 themes already there "ambiance" and "radiance"15:48
neureinstall, how?15:48
m3kkneure, download the themes from gnome-look.org15:48
m3kksome themes are .deb and can juist be installed15:49
m3kkand some you need to extract and copy to /usr/share/themes15:49
peroi have had dbus-daemon  own my cpu over 100% for a whole day  - any ideas ?15:49
neuredoes 13.10 use gtk2 or gtk3 ?15:49
m3kkneure, advice: install xubuntu.. there is plenty of themes already installed included blackbird15:49
m3kkneure, gtk315:50
zteamstevecoh1, there is alot of new stuff in the repository, and Unity is enhanched a little bit, and the updater only let you upgrade, one step once15:50
wilee-nileeTKing, If you can get to the OS use the iso boot with grub, there is alos a boot per session menu outside the bios on msdos computers probably on a uefi as well.15:50
Mathisenwhy cant i download ubuntu from the offical homepage ?? http://us.releases.ubuntu.com//saucy/ubuntu-13.10-desktop-i386.iso >>> Object not found!15:50
neurem3kk, i want to deviate as little as possible from "standard" ubuntu but i cant stand white background in windows :/15:50
m3kkneure, just a tought!15:51
zteamstevecoh1, anyway, just install the gnome-fallback-session and you get Ubuntu close to older versions15:51
Mathisenis it only me ? or is it working for anyone else here ?15:51
m3kktaught..15:51
m3kkspelling15:51
Mathisenif someone can check pls :)15:51
c107I `dd`'d Ubuntu 7.04 to a flash drive.  It didn't boot.15:51
zteamstevecoh1, you can actually switch between unity and Gnome Classic from the login screen :-)15:52
subcoolIs there anyone Well Versed on RAID?15:52
m3kkMathisen, what does not work?15:52
moppystevecoh1: ubuntus current desktop is what it is; you'd need to change the desktop environment to return to the older style that your maverick had.15:52
c107Also, someone gave me a link to old Ubuntu artwork, but I didn't visit it before my client disconnected.15:52
Mathisenm3kk i cant download the iso file15:52
moppystevecoh1: look at cinammon or mint or xubuntu perhaps, if you want to go back to the old one15:52
Mathiseni just get an error > object not found15:52
m3kkMathisen, no clue sorry15:52
Mathisendoes it work for you ?15:53
wilee-nileeMathisen, use this or a alternative=torrent  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop15:53
neureso i downloaded a theme, then what?15:53
Mathisenwill do15:53
moppyc107 i believe the old images didn't support that; the new ones do15:53
m3kkstevecoh1, you can setup xfce to like gnome215:53
zteammoppy, there is no need to go to Mint for that, Cinnamon and gnome-classic is both available in the repository15:54
stevecoh1Well, maybe I should try it awhile before I decide I really don't like it.  I suppose it's "cleaner"15:54
zteamstevecoh1, personally I think Unity is pretty awesome15:55
neureit's just a .tar.gz file15:55
moppystevecoh1: i do like the dash search, no more looking for things, just type in whatever. it hooks into applications too. for example gimp, where i dont need to use the menu bar anymore15:55
neurem3kk, ?15:55
stevecoh1try it, you'll like it ...15:55
c107I liked Unity until I wanted to customize it.15:55
stevecoh1Yeah, where is the customization.  Suppose I want the task bar on the bottom, stuff like that?15:56
moppyc107: there's some 3rd party tweaking tools, but it's still not yet as customisable as an older DE, primarily due to its age15:56
moppystevecoh1: you can do that, there's a tool for it you look around15:56
c107moppy: Where do I get the UI artwork, such as wallpaper, icons, window borders, GDM, and others?15:56
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moppyc107: it uses the same icons as any other DE ...15:56
zteamstevecoh1, but as I said, you can switch between both Gnome Classic, and Unity whenever you want with just a mouseclick15:56
neurethe tweak tool does not seem to have any way to open a theme file to install it15:56
wilee-nileec107, why are loading 7.04?15:56
stevecoh1moppy, what's it called?  I looked a little and couldn't find it.15:56
TKingwilee-nilee, when i reboot, with liveUSB inserted the only thing i see is 1. Ubuntu 2. Advanced Options for Ubuntu 3. System setup --- (this is how i get to BIOS)? all in the defualt purple screen. So i hidt "c" for the commandline and entered the following in grub> insmod part_msdos, ls (hd1,msdos1)/boot/grub so am stuck here as i cant remember how to load the ISO or make the cd boot15:56
c107moppy: I know.  I want to get the artwork from Feisty.15:57
stevecoh1zteam, where do I make that mouse click?15:57
stevecoh1I've been looking for it.15:57
moppystevecoh1: try this first http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/02/introducing-unity-tweak-tool15:57
c107wilee-nilee: I'm actually using a free Ubuntu derivative called Trisquel.  I want to relive the year when I lost my GNU virginity.15:57
wilee-nileeTKing, take a look here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214729515:58
guest____hi, could someone help me set up apache on ubuntu 13.10? i am practically done, all i really need is to use a folder that is on a windows partition instead of the content of var/www15:58
peroi have dbus-daemon running at over 100% for hours - how can i find out what's causing this?15:58
neureok sudo cp to /usr/share/themes did the trick..15:58
zteamstevecoh1, you have to install gnome-classic first, to do so, open a terminal and run sudo apt-get install gnome-fallback-session15:58
neosxsalve a tutti15:59
wilee-nileec107, you are using a OS not supported and asking for help on a eol not supported either.15:59
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c107wilee-nilee: That's not nice.  All I am asking is this:  Where are the files containing all the artwork used in Ubuntu 7.04?15:59
m3kk neure yep! i always does sudo nautilus because i cant remember the command for copy15:59
zteamstevecoh1, but as moppy says, if you only want to change some small things in Unity try Unity Tweak tool first16:00
wilee-nileec107, Its not a matter of nice it is the channels norm.16:00
neureok16:00
c107m3kk: I'm glad you don't know what cp is.16:00
neurewhat about qt programs?16:00
neurehow do i edit theme for those?16:00
m3kkc107, you are glad?16:01
c107m3kk: Yes.  cp is a bad thing.16:01
stevecoh1unity tweak install failed16:01
stevecoh1Err http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main Sources16:02
stevecoh1  404  Not Found16:02
stevecoh1Ign http://archive.canonical.com precise/partner Translation-en16:02
stevecoh1Err http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main i386 Packages16:02
stevecoh1  404  Not Found16:02
FloodBot1stevecoh1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:02
stevecoh1Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main Translation-en_US16:02
emperorhordeHello16:02
emperorhordei need help16:03
stevecoh1unity tweak install failed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6271241/16:03
wilee-nileestevecoh1, chnage the mirror16:03
stevecoh1to what?16:03
jmgkhello16:03
m3kkc107, like the disease? yeah haha16:04
stevecoh1I followed the steps here, that is what produced the error: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/02/introducing-unity-tweak-tool16:04
stevecoh1and got the errors above.16:04
m3kkstevecoh1, what ubuntu version are you running16:04
stevecoh112.0416:04
emperorhordestevecoh1 I suggest using the synaptic16:04
c107m3kk: child porn16:05
emperorhordespanis16:05
emperorhordespanish16:05
wilee-nileestevecoh1,that ppa has no 12.04 release.16:05
m3kkc107, oh right i totally forgot about that!16:05
Joelwhich package makes this directory? /usr/lib/jvm/default-java16:05
c107m3kk: ;)16:05
stevecoh1emperorhorde: synaptic, where did that go anyway?  All I see now is Ubuntu Software Center which I can't stand.16:05
m3kkstevecoh1, change mirror to a newer like 13.1016:05
m3kkor 13.0416:05
stevecoh1Probably better to just upgrade.16:06
wilee-nileeunity tweak is post 12.0416:06
m3kk:D16:06
emperorhordestevecoh1 in the ubuntu software is the option to download the synaptic or you can use the following command in the terminal: sudo apt get install synaptic16:07
c107Somebody please point me to the directory hosting artwork used in Ubuntu.16:07
emperorhordeI remember that you update the version of ubuntu.16:08
zteamstevecoh1, unity tweak tool, is not avaiable for 12.04, but you can add if you want to, or upgrade to a newer release such as Ubuntu 12.1016:08
emperorhordestevecoh1 I remember that you update the version of ubuntu 13.1016:08
m3kkSomeone else has issues enabling restricted drivers? software-configure.gtk or something crashes16:08
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c107Where is the Ubuntu artwork hosted?16:08
emperorhordewww.ubuntu.com  c10716:09
SkirmantTheoretically, if someone hacked the source code of windows would there be people out there to develop it?16:09
wilee-nileeemperorhorde, You are way off base on your help, concentrate on your issue.16:09
anonymous_no one here who can help me with webdav problems ? :(16:09
moltzhas anyone had ubuntu gnome crashing on intel?16:09
wilee-nilee!find webdav16:10
ubottuFound: bzr-webdav, gosa-plugin-webdav, lighttpd-mod-webdav, php-http-webdav-server, python-webdav16:10
zteamc107, if you want more themes and artwork to choose from just install ubuntu-artwork from software-center16:10
c107emperorhorde: It is shameful that you expect me to find the file from the root of the tree.16:10
wilee-nileemoltz, Can you detail the issue to the channel?16:10
c107zteam: I don't use Ubuntu.  I just want to have the files.16:11
wilee-nileeSkirmant, Not a ubuntu support topic.16:11
zteamc107, what distrubution are you using then?16:11
c107zteam: I see `ubuntu-artwork` in Trisquel's repositories.16:12
DarkangelHey just want to make sure is INTEL Processor's 32-Bit Only or are they 64-bit to?16:12
zteamc107, okey, try to install them then :-)16:12
faugusztinDarkangel: last 5 years or so are mostly 64-bit16:13
c107zteam: So, I will install it.  But, I'd like to have them in raw form so that I can use them when I experiment with Parabola (a free version of Arch).16:13
Darkangelcool thx bud16:13
faugusztinDarkangel: last 32-bit only CPU from Intel were for Socket 77516:13
Darkangelaww16:13
JohnP^anyone had problems with a52 surround output in saucy? like a cored ump....16:13
zteamDarkangel, if you have a processor, made within the last five years then it should be 64-bit16:14
Darkangelok =)16:14
zteamc107, well, in Ubuntu you can tell the package manager to just download the package (and not install it, then I think you can unpack that just as a regular zip file)16:16
zteamc107, I assume pacman has some similair option16:17
cat_sniperHey, I'm having some network issues, everytime I restart Ubuntu, or leave it going for a bit it just stops connecting and cannot find my wired connection anymore. I've reinstalled and it fixed it temporarily and then the problem came back.16:17
c107Okay.  Thanks, zteam.16:17
faugusztinc107: am i missing something or why can't you just clone the git repo and copy out the files you need ? http://devel.trisquel.info/gitweb/?p=trisquel-packages.git;a=tree;f=6.0;h=dc4701f2659187fb1951f181f5b3e09c36336b64;hb=HEAD ?16:18
zteamc107, you are welcome :-)16:18
cat_sniperMy driver is r8169 if that helps and I can try and give you any information you need16:18
spider_am using blackbuntu amd. i have connected to the internet. but apt-get fail. any help?16:19
daptordarattlerso far ubuntu 12.04 is the most stable release, but I am hearing some good stuff about 13.10, lots of fixes and stability, can anyone vouch for it after an upgrade?16:19
wilee-nileecat_sniper, the rt cards just are not supported very well do yourself a favor and get a usb that plugs and works or a new card.16:19
JohnP^13.10 broke a few things for me16:20
OerHeksspider_,  blackbuntu / pentesting is not supported here.16:20
wilee-nileedaptordarattler, your asking for subjective opinions hardly good evidence.16:20
JohnP^"something" in the xfce config stops some users' desktops from appearing16:20
cat_sniperwilee-nilee, do you mean like a wireless usb dongle? Is there anything I can do for it to be working in the short run while I get a new card or something16:20
spider_ok16:21
JohnP^5.1 surround sound no longer works either16:21
TKingplease can someone look into my elaborate paste and help me solve my problem? It is long but troubling to me and would appreciate your help http://paste.ubuntu.com/6271365/16:21
wilee-nileecat_sniper, I assume you are using a wrapper sounds like you have it working at times not much more that I know of, but it's not an area I have messed with.16:21
daptordarattlerwilee-nilee: I dont mind at all I just want the opinions of those who have actually upgraded from 13.04 so far and if there any issues I should look out for16:21
OerHeksspider_, they have their own channel > Official Blackbuntu IRC irc.foonetic.net #Blackbuntu16:22
spider_nobody seems to be available16:22
wilee-nileedaptordarattler, the channel is not for polling is all it is support16:22
JohnP^daptordarattler, just the 2 problems I put above - the surround sound one is really annoying though16:22
cat_sniperwilnee-nilee, OK, thanks. I'm gonna try and get it working, hopefully it will work eventually16:23
daptordarattlerLike for instance my memory overflowsin 13,04 when I create a startup disk or do anything intense with a usb drive and I am hoping its been fixed in 13.10, yeah in a way it is kinda of support for future problems16:23
Hackwarhi folks, can I already copy data into a raid when it is still resyncing?16:23
Hackwarand how can I see if a raid has been properly mounted into a directoryß16:23
JohnP^Hackwar, yes16:23
daptordarattlerJohnP^: I had the surround sound problem in 13.04 when only one speaker on my laptop was working16:24
JohnP^pulseaudio core dumps on 13.1016:24
jhpy1024Hey guys16:24
HackwarJohnP^: thx16:25
JohnP^the only way I found to get sound is to comment out "rate 48000" in a52.conf, but then you only get stereo16:25
daptordarattleralso I was wondering if the unity grabbing of mouse gestures has been fixed so I can have custom motion gestures with newegg gestures16:25
jhpy1024I have installed openSSH and I've tried connecting to it via this: https://ssh.serverdo.in/ but it's just not working. Do I have to port-forward or something?16:25
jhpy1024What I'm wanting is to be able to SSH into my PC when I'm at school16:25
baegleHow do I list all packages installed on my system from a particular repository (specifically looking for packages installed from a particular ppa)16:26
BrianHI remember using a KVM gui in ubuntu, but I forget the name.  Anyone know?16:26
BrianHIt had a UI that showed the screens of all the running machines in one view.16:26
JohnP^jhpy1024, #ssh ssh.serverdo.in16:26
nightdrevercomputer screen keeps going blank after around 10 mins?16:26
zykotick9BrianH: i'd guess you mean virt-manager... but i wouldn't call it a "KVM gui"...16:27
wilee-nileenightdrever, 12.04?16:27
nightdreveryes16:27
BrianHzykotick9: no, it wasn't virt-manager.  It had a unique name.16:27
zykotick9jhpy1024: forward port 22 from your router to your openssh server's IP16:27
jhpy1024okay thanks zykotick916:28
OerHeksbaegle, open softwarecenter, and check 'all software" button to change it to your ppa16:28
nightdreverlock is off turn screen off when inactive is set to Never, however screen goes blank after around 10 mins?16:28
jhpy1024zykotick9, Will I have to portforward every time my IP changes (dynamic IP)?16:28
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BrianHzykotick9: you could press a hotkey that brought up a full screen UI that showed thumbnails of machines.16:28
zykotick9jhpy1024: if your "server" internal IP changes, then yes.  if it's your router's IP that changes, then no.16:29
BoreeasCan I adjust the mouse sensitivity? In "System Settings" → "Mouse & Touchpad", all I can adjust is the primary mouse button and double click speed16:29
wilee-nileenightdrever, Its a bug not fixed you can turn off http://askubuntu.com/questions/184111/disable-blank-screen-in-12-0416:29
zykotick9BrianH: sorry, i don't use virt-manager (libvirt) or any other GUIs for my KVM VMs... i don't know any other suggestions.16:29
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TKingplease can someone look into my elaborate paste and help me solve my problem? It is long but troubling to me and would appreciate your help http://paste.ubuntu.com/6271365/16:30
nightdreverwilee which answer should i follow?16:30
BrianHzykotick9: Aha! Gnome Boxes: https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Apps/Boxes?action=show&redirect=Boxes16:31
wilee-nileenightdrever, I have a command I use to turn it off per session when it bothers me, I am in W8.1 right now I will have to reboot to get it if you need it.16:31
nightdreverwell id rather get a fix which i dont have to use each time i start pc16:32
nightdreverthis never used to happen16:32
BrianHI wonder if I could run that in Unity.16:32
zykotick9BrianH: i'm glad you found it, thanks for sharing16:32
baegleOerHeks: Is there any way to do this via command-line. I'm trying to actually do some work instead of looking at icons and transcribing text16:33
nightdreverok ill mess around be back later16:34
OerHeksbeagle, sure, lot of work > http://askubuntu.com/questions/43581/how-to-list-packages-from-a-ppa-source-in-command-line16:34
baegleOerHeks: thanks for the link. Looks good16:35
BrianHIf I install ubuntu-desktop from a system with ubuntu-server, does the kernel get replaced?16:35
stevecoh1Is this possible?  I'd like to install something on my ubuntu that would enable me to control my desktop via a web interface in another room?16:35
BrianHstevecoh1: VNC16:36
OerHeksBrianH, no.16:37
BrianHstevecoh1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC16:37
BrianHOerHeks: in regards to the kernel?16:37
stevecoh1thanks brian h16:37
zykotick9BrianH: i wouldn't think that ubuntu-desktop has a kernel involved...  "apt-cache depends ubuntu-desktop" should list what will be installed.16:38
OerHeksBrianH, the kernel will stay16:38
BrianHAwesome, thanks. :)16:38
jhigh9000hello. is there a way to get better download speeds by setting up ssh tunnel to wherever you want to connect to?16:39
zykotick9jhigh9000: ahhh, encryption (ssh) will slow transfers down (a little)???16:39
jhigh9000or am i confusing ssh with ssl?16:40
ilbuonmeHi guys, can I ask a question on Xubuntu 13.10 and the Jupiter applet?16:40
ilbuonmeI'd like to know whether anyone has installed it on 13.1016:40
BrianHilbuonme: try #xubuntu?16:41
ilbuonmeBrianH: it seems it's not a problem with Xubuntu, but with the new Ubuntu in general16:41
ilbuonmeBrianH: but ok, I'll try there16:42
jhigh9000zykotick9: i never mess with ssh. i was only curious about it (ssh). thanks for your help. :)16:43
BrianHilbuonme: *shrugs* I just assume that most users here are on Unity.  Just a suggestion if you can't find someone here to help.16:43
zykotick9jhigh9000: i use ssh (or mosh) everyday, but honestly, never for tunnels.  ssh is SUPER handy/powerful, you really should look into it.  it's great for file transfers too (scp/sftp).16:45
AJH101hi i have a red warning triable at the top of my screen (12.04). Apparently I have problems updating - but the 'update manually' suggestion achieves nothing - any ideas please?16:46
raven_ravenHello, could someone help me with my overheating GPU (Radeon HD Mobility 4650)? Is there a fix to this at all?16:46
jhigh9000zykotick9: ok. i use filezilla occasionally for ftp.16:47
BoreeasHow can I adjust the mouse sensitivity? In "System Settings" → "Mouse & Touchpad", all I can adjust is the primary mouse button and double click speed16:48
andrydid you plug your mouse in- and out? else you can do it via xinput16:48
andrysorry, out- and in16:49
AJH101I have tried sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade but nothing is updated - any ideas please?16:49
wilee-nileeAJH101, pastebin the output from those commands16:50
jhigh9000zykotick9: thanks. :)16:51
munerfhello, after updating to 13.10 I lost my network connectivity, if I do a dhclient eth0 I get network for 5m then I loose connectivity again, what can I do=16:52
tiinaHow can I do clean start ubuntu on my computer when I cannot upgrade/update or install new one16:55
andrymunerf, kubuntu?16:57
andrythere are a lot of bug reports related to this :/16:57
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jackarghi, could anyone here help me enable DVD playing on an old mac mini? thanks!16:59
ZiberI've just updated to 13.10 on my laptop, and there's a popup that I can't seem to be make go away, that tells me that the hotkey for iBus is changed to super+space?17:00
OerHeksjackarg, old 'intel'  mac mini?17:00
jackargOerHeks uh probably, why?17:00
ZiberAnd my background image is gone..17:00
OerHeksjackarg,i hope this works:  follow this guide >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs >> sudo apt-get install libdvdread4 > Then open a terminal window and execute: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh17:01
OerHeksjackarg, no guarantee all dvd's will play17:01
kingbeowolfso whats the current method to watch amazon prime videos?17:02
kingbeowolfthe old method of install hal doesn't work17:02
ZiberRight-clicking on my desktop doesn't do anything, either.17:03
jackargOerHeks ok the problem is I get this error message saying wget can't get to the address "packages.medibuntu.org" and it says "dyamic fetch failed" and all sorts of things17:03
OerHeksjackarg, known issue, medibuntu is dead, use restricted extra's17:04
OerHekshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu17:04
ZiberSo, what's IBus?17:05
ZiberAnd why won't the alert about it go away in 13.10?17:05
OerHekskingbeowolf, i don't know howto watch amazon stuff, but HAL is depreciated since 9.04? or 10.04 ?17:05
levodoes anyone know a good wiki for taking notes of college books and materials? or any other way (cross platform)17:05
andryZiber, i had this too .. i just removed english from my languages  and keyboard layout17:05
andry(default is german for me)17:06
andrythen reboot17:06
jackargOerHeks 3 things: 1. I have installed ubuntu-restricted-extras but that doesn't change anything 2. on my new laptop i did the same procedure and it worked fine, and it used another server instead of medibuntu 3. why is that command listed on the documentation if it's down?17:06
kingbeowolfOerHeks: it worked in 13.04 and the replacement is hal-info17:06
andrythis popup keeps coming when i have more than one keyboard layout installed17:06
Ziberandry: Well, uh, I'm American.17:06
ZiberI don't think I have more than one installed. How can I check though?17:06
OerHeksjackarg, medibuntu is not listed @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs17:07
andryZiber, try to type "keys" or "keyboard" into unity launcher17:08
jackargOerHeks but for some reason it's what wget is trying to get access to when i execute the css install command. so what now?17:08
andryor hardware > keyboard17:08
andrymaybe it installed en_us plus en_gb or sth17:09
OerHeksjackarg, remove medibuntu from your sources17:09
jackargOerHeks I see what you linked me, the libdvdcss package. If I just install that everything will work?17:09
TKingsorry i am doing a boot repair just want to find out if it takes hours because i have been on the screen where it says "Purge and reinstall the Grub of: sbd2(upd)" for about 30mins17:09
OerHeksjackarg, you need that css script too, that comes with restricted extra's AFAIK17:09
sophie_I'm running Ubuntu 13.04, and I've noticed when running Unigine Heaven that my GPU clock is only 705mhz, and my nvidia prefs show this also at performance level 3, my card should have a base clock if 915 and a turbo clock of 1800mhz (approx)17:10
ZiberAnd my background image missing?17:10
andrydid you use unity-tweak-tool and disable "show icons on desktop" or sth like that, Ziber?17:11
jackargOerHeks and after removing it from my sources it will automatically use the other repo when i execute the css install command?17:11
andrythat would disable nautilus (if i remember correct) from managing the desktop17:11
OerHeksjackarg, yes, if you have installed restricted, it will take that source for css17:11
munerfI'm think my problem is related with NetworkManager17:12
jackargOerHeks now sorry but i'm not using ubuntu so what's the command to remove it from your sources?17:12
Ari-Yangandry: you can prevent nautilus and nemo from launching fake desktop windows by using ubuntu-tweak-tool?17:12
Ziberandry: Don't think so.17:13
OerHeks.. i don't know, i support ubuntu only17:13
andryAri-Yang, unity-tweak-tool or ubuntu-tweak-tool disabled it for me once .. had no wallpaper then17:13
OerHeksjackarg, this applies to xubuntu/kubuntu/lubuntu too17:13
kingbeowolfso whats the current method to watch amazon prime videos?17:13
ZiberOh, apparently I did. Ha. Thanks!17:14
jackargOerHeks i'm using peppermint and I can't find the sources gui17:14
Ari-YangZiber: to prevent nautilus from launching a fake desktop window when I select 'open folder location' in Deluge... I moved /usr/bin/nautilus to /usr/bin/nautilus.real made a script that had exec line exce=/usr/bin/nautilus.real --no-desktop and saved it as nautilus under /usr/bin and made it executable17:14
OerHeksjackarg, join spotnet, they have the peppermint irc suport17:15
nightdreverwhen i open steam .... Your currently insalled video driver package is nvidia-319-updates, version 319.32-Oubuntu0.0.1 The video driver package nvidea-319, version 319.49-0ubuntu1~precise~xup1 has a more recent driver version. We recomend upgrading to this package.............how do i do this?17:15
kingbeowolfnightdrever: sudo apt-get update17:16
Ari-Yang!ubuntu-tweak-tool17:16
kingbeowolfunity tweak tool17:16
Ari-Yangandry: can't seem to find ubuntu-tweak-tool in apt-cache search17:16
Ari-Yangoh17:16
kingbeowolf1unity tweak tool17:16
Ari-Yangunity?17:16
kingbeowolf!unity tweak tool17:16
ubottukingbeowolf: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:16
Ari-YangI can't even find unity tweak17:17
andryutt needs to be added via ppa17:17
andryunity-tweak-tool is in the ubu repos17:17
Ari-Yangthere is gnome-tweak-tool17:17
nightdreverkingbeowolf .... sudo apt-get update..........nothing?17:17
OerHeksnightdrever, funny, that driver revers to x-swat ppa > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates but has no saucy candidate17:17
andrythats for gnome only :)17:17
kingbeowolfnightdrever: sudo apt-get upgrade17:17
ZiberWhat about the remaining time on my laptop battery?17:17
XfaulzHow can I change the SSH's "Access Denied" message to something else when somebody attempts an failed login?17:17
OerHeksnightdrever, might want to ask in #ubuntu-steam too17:18
nightdreverhmm il ask again another time17:18
TKingsorry i am doing a boot repair just want to find out if it takes hours because i have been on the screen where it says "Purge and reinstall the Grub of: sbd2(upd)" for about 30mins17:18
angsI have a hp envy 15 laptop, I recently installed ubuntu 13.10 and its sound quality decreased significantly comparing the one on windows. is there a driver that I need to install? If it is so, where can I download it17:18
andrywhat is the problem with that Ziber ?17:19
jetro_Hey, guys I just installed ubuntu, and want to create a partition so I can install windows as well.17:19
XfaulzHow can I change the SSH's "Access Denied" message to something else when somebody attempts an failed login?17:19
OerHeksangs, i had bad sound too, clementine has a build-in equaliser, that freshes up soundquality17:19
Ari-Yangandry: I think I have to add this ppa https://launchpad.net/~freyja-dev/+archive/unity-tweak-tool-daily17:19
Ari-Yang:|17:19
jetro_I have gparted, but when I click on the main partition, and then the partition tab in the menu, all the options are greyed out, what do I do?17:19
auronandacejetro_: you really ought to install windows first then ubuntu17:19
Ari-YangI'm on 12.1017:19
VeloxAmbitumwindows hates sharing17:20
andryah okay, you are on an older ubuntu :)17:20
OerHeksVeloxAmbitum, no, windows loves buying.17:20
auronandacejetro_: you won't be able to resize a partition that you are currently booted onto17:20
angsOerHeks, how can I get clementine?17:20
andryat least not ext partitions17:20
auronandacejetro_: you'll need to do the partitioning from a livecd17:20
Ari-Yangwhat filemanager does gnome use?17:21
Ari-Yangnemo?17:21
OerHeksangs search in your softwarecenter?17:21
auronandaceAri-Yang: nautilus17:21
Ari-Yangoh17:21
jetro_auronandace, ahh ok, that makes sense. Btw what's wrong with having ubuntu 1st then installing windows. I am following the instructions here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/179048/how-to-partition-disk-in-ubuntu-and-then-install-windows-717:21
Ari-Yangwas asking cuz I want to prevent a desktop window called nemo from launching itself when I run xrandr --auto to get a display picture with my laptop on hdmi17:21
jetro_and based on those instructions, yes grub will get wiped out, but it is easy to restore from the live cd17:21
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auronandacejetro_: windows will overwrite the bootloader and you'll need to reinstall grub17:21
angsOerHeks, hanks17:22
angsthanks17:22
jackargOerHeks apparently i don't even have the repo in my sources.list.d folder. wtf?17:22
OerHeksi love clementine, for its fast database ( over 30.000+ songs)17:22
jetro_auronandace: I can do that from the live cd with just these 2 commands right? sudo grub-install /dev/sda sudo update-grub17:22
munerfhello, i'm having connectivity issues after updating to 13.10. I've removed NetworkManager since I do not want to use gnome (its an headless machine)17:23
munerfstill, I get not connectivty17:23
auronandacejetro_: i'm not sure if any chrooting would be involved too17:23
munerfshouldnt dhclient be working automatically?17:24
andrygrub-install does not need chroot, but grub-update does17:24
andrywell .. you dont need to update grub anyway in this situation17:24
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BluesKajmunerf. you need to set up /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base , as described here http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/17:27
BluesKajmunerf. the settings described in /etc/resolv.conf have to be setup in  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head , in newer ubuntus' like 12.10 and up17:28
hoxeniHi, I ssh'ed into a machine as root@10.4.2.70, when I run ifconfig there, I get the IP address 172.17.12.31. Why are the two different? Thanks17:29
TKingI am using ubuntu 12.04, Since I can't boot to Ubuntu, I did the used a liveUSB to run Boot Repair but its running "purge and reinstall the Grub" for ever how can i quit it to not break things17:29
munerfok, after doing that I'll get auto dhcp when I connect a cable?17:29
stevecoh1setting  up VNC: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC says "If you have previously reconfigured the firewall on your PC, make sure the firewall allows incoming connections on port 22 from anywhere, and on port 5900 from localhost (also known as 127.0.0.1).  What command or ubuntu tool do I use to do this?17:30
andryhoxeni, ip addr shows you all ips17:30
andryplus their nics17:30
hoxeniWhen I type ifconfig, I get inet addr:172.17.12.31 I don't see 10.2.4.70 anywhere (the one I used to login)...17:31
andrytype "ip addr"17:31
andrymaybe the server uses vpn and the ssh is bound to a tap device17:32
hoxeniyeps... still same -> inet 172.17.12.31/24 brd 172.17.12.255 scope global eth017:32
hoxenidon't see 10.2.4.70 anywhere17:32
andrymaybe there is a router between17:33
hoxenihmmm...ok Thanks andry :) ... Any idea what command I can use to get the IP address I used to ssh with (10.2.4.70 in this case?)17:34
stevecoh1Where do I go in ubuntu to allow the port 5900 connection for VNC?17:35
andryroute -n should show the route to the 10*/8 net17:35
andryif you mean this17:35
tannerstirrathey everyone17:36
sysRPLhi17:36
andrystevecoh1, the ports are open by default in ubuntu17:36
hoxenihmm...ok thanks :)17:36
stevecoh1hmm, VNC Client on other PC fails to connect.17:36
andrywhat does "sudo netstat -tulpen | grep -i vino" give you?17:37
sysRPLis there a way to downgrade gdb? my ide of choice doesn't work well with  gdb 7.6.1 ...i'd like to try earlier versions17:37
tannerstirratquestion: I'm setting up a 12.04 box as the server computer for my campus radio station, using the radio software Rivendell. I don't want to break any dependencies as a result of updating, but are there security risks associated with not updating packages?17:37
andryit should be bound to 0.0.0.0:590017:37
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OerHekstannerstirrat, most likely, yes17:38
andryand, stevecoh1, "sudo iptables -L | grep -i input" should say "Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)"17:38
ZiberHow can I get naturalscrolling on my touchpad but not my mouse?17:39
jribtannerstirrat: yes17:39
tannerstirratOerHeks: k, that makes sense.17:39
stevecoh1andry: it does17:40
stevecoh1But cannot connect from client.17:41
andryand it is bound to 0.0.0.0?17:41
stevecoh1andry: please explain17:41
levi0x0clear17:41
ZiberHow can I get naturalscrolling?17:41
andry"sudo netstat -tulpen | grep -i vino"17:41
andryyou use vino, right?17:42
andry(thats the default vnc server in ubuntu)17:42
stevecoh1I installed X11VNC17:43
stevecoh1Is that not what I want?17:43
andrydo you NEED to use it? else you can just use "Desktop Sharing" that comes with ubuntu17:44
stevecoh1ok, will uninstall X11VNC.  Then how do I set up vino?17:44
andryjust type in the dash "desktop sharing" (i think that is the english translation)17:45
jmgkspider_,  reply17:45
andrythere are just a very few options that are easy to understand17:45
cuddleshello17:45
stevecoh1thanks, let my try this17:46
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lgp171188I just enabled nvidia proprietary drivers on my saucy amd64 install. I now get the nvidia splash screen at boot time. How to disable it? There is no xorg.conf to add something like Option "nologo" "true". Any clues?17:46
stevecoh1wow, it worked!17:47
BluesKajlgp171188. how long does the splash screen stay "on" ?17:47
andrycool :)17:47
lgp171188BluesKaj: Sufficiently long enough to be noticed during boot. Maybe for a second or two, but I am not sure.17:48
BluesKajlgp171188. that's the price of having a good graphics card , it's good to know the nvidia driver is loading IMV17:49
stevecoh1this is over VNC!!!  Great!017:50
lgp171188BluesKaj: In previous versions of Ubuntu and possibly previous versions of the driver, there was no splash screen. Is it recommended to generate a xorg.conf using something like nvidia-xconfig and then add the directive for disabling the nvidia splash screen?17:50
jackargok, does anyone here know simply how to remove medibuntu by terminal?17:51
nightdreveri have a NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-319.60.run   how do i install?17:51
Ari-Yang!nvidia17:51
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto17:51
BluesKajlgp171188. sorry , don't know , the nvidia notifier is a bonus for me .17:52
lgp171188BluesKaj: I wouldn't call that a notifier. It is a blatant advertisement the likes of which aren't found in better supported OSes like Windows.17:53
wilee-nileejackarg, using your question 2 seconds to find. http://askubuntu.com/questions/223179/how-to-remove-medibuntu-repository-and-packages17:53
shauntabletnightdrever sudo chmod a+x NVID*17:53
Ari-Yangnightdrever: with that .run file I think you have to cd into the directory where the file is in terminal, then type sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-319.60.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/version-here17:53
shauntabletWindows blows17:53
Ari-Yangoh forget what I said then, shauntablet might have done this before?....17:53
wilee-nilee!ot | shauntablet17:53
ubottushauntablet: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:53
jackargwilee-nille it doesn't work17:53
Mathisenhello im trying to get xrdp to work im connecting with a windows 8 machine but i just get a grey background with an X as a mouse pointer ... any ideas ?17:53
wilee-nileejackarg, Its either in the sources.list or sources.list.d gksudo nautilus and remove it17:54
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iolausHey all, I'm having an issue with an Upstart script.  The script starts the process using:     su -s /bin/dash -c "$DAEMON -f -Des.path.conf=$CONFIG_DIR" elasticsearch17:55
faugusztinMathisen: let me guess - you are trying to use Unity, Gnome 3 or KDE17:55
wilee-nileejackarg, when removed you have to run a update.17:55
iolausbut when I run a "ps xua" the process shows up as running under "108" rather than "elasticsearch" and the process doesn't seem to have permissions to files and folders owned by "elasticsearch:elasticsearch"17:55
Mathisenfaugusztin i have installed lxde i just dont know how to make it default for xrdp17:56
OerHeksjackarg maybe peppermint is different, told you where to get support17:56
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Mathiseniv also installed gnome-fallback and gnome-core17:56
neverbluehi guys, I have installed LAMP, ran sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin, configured phpmyadmin and it installed correctly, then I attempt to test the install and localhost/phpmyaadmin/ does not resolve (even restarted Apache2)17:56
faugusztinMathisen: .xinitrc, add a line: startxfce417:56
faugusztinMathisen: sorry17:56
faugusztinMathisen: it's .xsession, sorry :P17:57
BluesKajlgp171188. well , you're entitled to your opinion , the nvidai logo flashes here for about 1/2 sec and it's good know the driver is loaded , that's my view.17:57
user1I just rebooted and I see a message when I just entered password saying "call to lusertemp failed, temporary directories full?   check your installation"   but I have 4 g free on /   .  I just checked it by rebooting to console by recovery mode, by df -h"17:57
jackargOerHeks I don't think I need the support, you guys are fine. I think I got it, i'm editing the install-css.sh script so that it uses to videolan archive, i think that could be the solution, but i'm not sure how to do it. any help?17:57
faugusztinMathisen: in case you are using ubuntu 13.04 or older (something with Gnome older than 3.8) then you can also use gnome-session --session=gnome-fallback17:58
sophie_I'm installing a Nvidia driver from the site and it says I need to close x server, how do I do that?17:59
Ari-Yanglgp171188: I think you need:17:59
Ari-YangSection "Device"17:59
Ari-YangOption "NoLogo" "True"17:59
Ari-Yangin xorg.conf17:59
faugusztinMathisen: detailed description http://askubuntu.com/a/248541 (Create a ~/.xsession File Specifying the Desired Interface for xRDP)17:59
Ari-Yanglgp171188: try that17:59
andryctrl+alt+f1, login, sudo service lightdm stop, install17:59
andry@ sophie_17:59
wilee-nilee!tab | jackarg17:59
ubottujackarg: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.17:59
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Mathisenfaugusztin should i create this in my home directory currently i have a .xsession with the line " gnome-session --session=ubuntu-2d17:59
faugusztinMathisen: yes, it is the same file. What version of Ubuntu are you running ? Since 12.10, there is no ubuntu-2d18:00
Mathisen13.1018:00
lgp171188Ari-Yang: I found that by googling, but there is no xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 directory. Not sure if it is a good idea to generate one using nvidia-xconfig and then edit that.18:00
andryyou need "build-essential" which comes with the kernel headers for that, too18:00
jackargok let me make this clearer: does anyone here know where I can get a install-css.sh script (for libdvdcss) that uses the new videolan archive? (since medibuntu is down)18:00
jackargwilee-nille? OerHeks ?18:00
faugusztinMathisen: just comment out the ubuntu-2d line and add startxfce or the gnome-fallback lines18:00
Ari-Yanglgp171188: it's worth a shot, just don't mess it up by editing something. If removing the logo is worth it, go for it; otherwise just let it be.18:01
kostkonjackarg, the package has been updated. try reinstalling the libdvdcss package and then run the .sh again18:01
Mathisenfaugusztin okej will try18:01
Ari-Yanglgp171188: when I say editing something ,I mean editing something that shouldn't be edited or you make a bad edit18:01
jackargkostkon what is the exact package name?18:01
faugusztinMathisen: but in 13.10, i can only recommend xfce, gnome doesn't run for me via VNC or XRDP18:01
kostkonjackarg, or try running it right now18:01
kostkon!find libdvdcss18:01
ubottuFile libdvdcss found in python3-dvdvideo, xbmc-bin18:01
bluechaoshello guys18:02
kostkonjackarg, damn18:02
lgp171188Ari-Yang: The default configuration with older versions of drivers/ubuntu used to work fine without showing the logo. I have done editing of xorg.conf for the same purpose when I was using Debian.18:02
saveandload_I made a site, can i post it here admin?18:02
jackargkostkon sorry i'm a bit confused18:02
wilee-nileeI found a deb for libdvdcss2 on the web had to search a bit is all18:02
Ari-Yanglgp171188: 'k. let me know if you did it and it worked18:02
thebigredgeekQuic question18:02
thebigredgeekI have a friend I am trying to help with his bcm4311 wireless18:03
thebigredgeekI have done this countless times18:03
bluechaossomeone can't say me one vido software editor for ubuntu desktop 12.04 (png/jpg +audio ) (like proshowgold ) creating a avi from photo !18:03
Ari-Yangwilee-nilee: apt-cache search libdvdcss218:03
Ari-Yangit's there18:03
kostkonjackarg, yeah sorry i meant to do18:03
lgp171188Ari-Yang: Yes sure. My experience tells me it should. Thanks for the help :)18:03
thebigredgeekIs there is a de-facto way to do this by recompiling the kernal with native support?18:03
Ari-Yang(on ubuntu 12.10 at least)18:03
kostkon!find install-css.sh18:03
SchrodingersScatthebigredgeek: friends don't let friends broadcom18:03
ubottuFile install-css.sh found in libdvdread418:03
saveandload_a made a website with free saved game avalaible here http://saveandload.com/ cheers :)18:03
saveandload_*I18:03
thebigredgeekNo shit, it's an old laptop18:03
bluechaossomeone can't say me one vido software editor for ubuntu desktop 12.04 (png/jpg +audio ) (like proshowgold ) creating a avi from photo !18:03
jmgkspider_,  reply18:03
thebigredgeekIs there a kernal patch I can perform to get that working?18:03
thebigredgeekWIth zero config?18:03
jackargkostkon yeah i've already installed that18:03
wilee-nilee!language | thebigredgeek18:03
ubottuthebigredgeek: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.18:03
kostkonjackarg, then it should use the vlc repo18:04
bluechaosI need some help !18:04
thebigredgeekSorry about that18:04
thebigredgeekheh18:04
Mathisenfaugusztin iv added the line startxfce and comented out the other one and i restarted xrdp still the same18:04
neverbluecould someone help me determine why my pypmyadmin site is not working ?18:04
aaron_anyone know if they is a way to get caffeine or something similar for 13.10?18:04
bluechaossomeone can't say me one video or photo  software editor for ubuntu desktop 12.04 (png/jpg +audio ) (like proshowgold ) creating a avi from photo !18:04
kostkonjackarg, the package if you are uptodate that is already set to use the vlc repo18:04
thebigredgeekso again,18:04
kostkonis*18:04
SchrodingersScatbluechaos: have you tried ffmpeg? which may or may not be avconv18:04
thebigredgeekIs there a newer kernel version that I can compile in firmware that supports bcm4311?18:05
jackargkostkon you mean the one that's not medibuntu? ok maybe this is because i'm using peppermint based on ubuntu 12.04. could you direct me to where i can download the up to date one?18:05
thebigredgeekSo that all this tinkering isn't required?18:05
kostkonjackarg, yes, the one in the repos18:05
OerHeks!bcm | thebigredgeek18:05
ubottuthebigredgeek: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx18:05
faugusztinMathisen: restarting XRDP usually isn't enough, i have to usually kill the X11vnc instance and everything else which was started by xrdp18:05
jackargkostkon, which is?18:05
thebigredgeekSeriously, I just wanted to know18:05
SchrodingersScatbluechaos: first hit for "ffmpeg photo video" on the youtube machine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_85H7b5JIQE18:05
thebigredgeekIf anyone knew of a solution18:05
faugusztinMathisen: because right now it probably reconnects to the failed session18:05
thebigredgeekThat article doesn't work18:05
kostkonjackarg, use the software centre of apt-get   sudo apt-get clean and then sudo apt-get install libdvdread4?18:06
aikeruCan someone help with a suspend/resume issue for ubuntu 13.10? :)18:06
Mathisenfaugusztin il just do an reboot that should solve everything then right ? its a virtual server so it goes fast18:06
gordonjcp!anyone | aikeru18:06
ubottuaikeru: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.18:06
shauntabletKino or kdenlive should work i think for bluechaos18:06
faugusztinMathisen: reboot is a bit overkill, but yeah, it should do fine :)18:06
OerHeksthebigredgeek, use the STA driver, it should work18:06
Mathisen:)18:06
kostkonjackarg, i.e you wont need to install the restricted-extras again just that one small pacakge18:06
aaron_W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/caffeine-developers/ppa/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found18:07
user1 I just rebooted and I see a message when I just entered password saying "call to lusertemp failed, temporary directories full?   check your installation"   but I have 4 g free on /   .  I just checked it by rebooting to console by recovery mode, by df -h"18:07
aikeruHow can I get ubuntu 13.10 to resume after suspend? If it helps I have an HP envy m618:07
aaron_This is what happens after I add the repository and try to update18:07
aaron_I cant install caffeine18:07
faugusztinMathisen: there is a chance that the old XRDP in Ubuntu still won't work, in that case i recommend you to use scarygliders x11rdp-o-matic18:07
wilee-nilee!find caffeine18:07
ubottuFile caffeine found in avogadro-data, chemical-structures, gamgi-data, jmol-applet, mayavi2, picon-news, ttf-aenigma, vtkdata, xmakemol, xmakemol-gl (and 1 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=caffeine&mode=&suite=saucy&arch=any18:07
OerHeksaaron_, that https://launchpad.net/~caffeine-developers/+archive/caffeine-dev  PPA has no saucy packages18:07
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jackargkostkon: let's make things clear: I already have libdvdread4, but it contains the install css script that uses medibuntu. So i just removed it, in hope of downloading an updated version that will contain the updated script. now if I just install it again it's gonna be the same problem18:08
kostkonjackarg, yes18:08
jackargkostkon i'm so lost!18:08
aikeru!details18:08
ubottuPlease give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."18:08
Mathisenfaugusztin yeah same problem still18:08
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aikeru!gq18:08
ubottuAre you sure your question allows us to help you? Please read http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html to understand how to ask a 'better' question.18:08
kostkonjackarg, 12.04 has already the updated package. i got the update 7-10 days ago in 12.0418:09
UrielVigilantWhy i cant creat a sTart up usb pen drive with ubuntu 13.10 using the tools that come with it ?18:09
bluechaosshauntablet,18:09
bluechaosnow i'm will try it18:09
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bluechaos!18:09
jackargkostkon, let me just try reinstalling it18:09
kostkonjackarg, give sudo apt-get clean first just to be sure18:09
jackargok18:10
aaron_@oerherks is there anything similar I can use to avoid just changing power/screensaver settings everytime?18:10
Mathisenfaugusztin what is scarygliders x11rdp-o-matic ?18:10
jackargkostkon IT WORKED THANKYOU SO MUCH18:10
UrielVigilantI follow all steps on usb guide but it dont work. It says feiled18:10
faugusztinMathisen: http://scarygliders.net/x11rdp-o-matic-central-downloads-page/18:10
SchrodingersScatUrielVigilant: I have a startup disk creator in my settings.  Accepts an image and lets me put it on a drive.18:10
kostkonjackarg, :)18:10
faugusztinMathisen: it is a script which downloads and builds the latest XRDP, makes .deb from them and installs them18:11
Mathisenokej il purge the old xrdp then and try that18:11
OerHeksaaron_, you can use system settings >  brightness & lock, it should be persistant18:11
UrielVigilantSchrodingersScat: how i do that ?18:11
jackargkostkon so basically the only problem was that I couldn't get the css script to work because the libdvdread4 was not updated and you say this update just occured a week ago?!18:11
aikeruI just installed Ubuntu on my laptop yesterday. I'm really enjoying it, but I cant seem to resume from suspend. When I suspend the laptop, it seems to suspend. When I try to wake it with power button, the power light comes on solid, but the screen is just black. Nothing else happens. I have an HP envy m6. I googled suspend/resume and found I could try CTRL+ALT+F1 but this didn't get any result. Pressing keys, etc. doesn't seem to work.18:11
bluechaosshauntablet,18:11
kostkonjackarg, yes. i dont know why you still had the old .sh script18:11
bluechaosI need a photo editor not a video & !18:12
aaron_Yeah, I just didnt wanna go that right.....but if thats the only way i suppose it will have to suffice for now18:12
jackargkostkon thank you so much! i've been here close to two hours trying to figure it out!18:12
Thoams_aikeru: that'll learn ya.18:12
aaron_route*18:12
kostkonjackarg, np18:12
bluechaosto transfor from photo to avi format ! (like proshow gold )18:12
bluechaostransfer ....fucking ...beer. !18:12
Thoams_NO18:13
Thoams_my beer18:13
aikeruThoams_ I'm sorry what?18:13
aaron_orby,18:13
IdleOne!language18:13
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.18:13
UrielVigilantWhy startup disk creator 2.5 from ubuntu 13.10 dont work ?18:13
aikeruI was just tyring to ask a better question according to instructions :)18:13
wilee-nilee!language | bluechaos18:13
ubottubluechaos: please see above18:13
DrDittersdorfbluechaos - openshot18:13
shauntabletbluechaos yeah so you need a video editor gimp or inkscape dont do avi i dont thin maybe ffmpeg18:13
MrHeavyWhat's the preferred way of creating an apt repository when you're adding third-party binary packages that may not come with .changes files?18:13
UrielVigilantunebootin only lets us creat up to 13.04 and dont work for 13.1018:14
aaron_ok, one last retarded question, how do I direct my comments at particular users18:14
MrHeavyIs a simple dpkg-scanpackages with some wrapper scripts the simplest way?18:14
neverblueguys, now that I setup LAMP/phpmyadmin, im ready to start a new site. Is there any best practices documentation for Apache in starting up a new site? thanks18:14
shauntabletaaron_ type their name and tab18:14
ikonianeverblue: yeah, not using phpmyadmin is point one18:14
neverblueikonia: why ?18:15
neverbluejust command line, or another tool ?18:15
ikonianeverblue: point 2 is not hosting a website until you understand how to do it18:15
aaron_shauntablet, ok, thanks....lol18:15
MrHeavyikonia: Ideological bias doesn't count as best practice ;)18:15
shauntabletIgnor ikonia elitest18:15
ikoniashauntablet: what ?18:15
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ikonianothing elite about it, putting a http service that connects to your database as root on the public internet.....is bad18:15
kaenjust installed 13.10, how to get a clock to show up in the panel?18:15
kaenhow do I*18:16
neverblueikonia: ill assume you aren't actually trying to help and move on18:16
MrHeavyWho said anything about root? phpMyAdmin will connect with whatever credentials you tell it to.18:16
jackargkostkon dammit my dvd still wont play18:16
shauntabletU need phpmyadmin to quickly get setup i imagine they mean a  dev box not a prod machine18:16
neverbluethanks for posting my nick in the channel, I feel self-importance18:16
ikonianeverblue: what warning you against huge security hole is not helping....yeah, I think that is18:16
kostkonjackarg, which player are you using?18:16
lucidohi, when I do xrandr --newmode why does it add this mode only to VGA-1 and not to the other outputs?18:16
ikoniaMrHeavy: to administrate the instance and add/manage instances it will need to connect as root18:16
MrHeavySurely, in this age where electronic banking and card transactions are performed across the public Internet, there must be some way to protect My Valuable Website18:17
jackargkostkon vlc and eventually xbmc18:17
neverblueanyone else then, best practices in setting up a website (Apache) ?18:17
ikoniaeither way putting a http service on the net that "manages" your database is a bad idea18:17
MrHeavyneverblue: What are your actual concerns?18:17
SchrodingersScatneverblue: surprised i haven't seen anyone mention the juju18:17
ikonianeverblue: honestly, if you're asking this, you'd be better off doing some basic research and then being specific18:17
MrHeavyikonia: Yeah, things that convert one protocol to another are awful18:17
neverblueMrHeavy: I believe creating file/folders at /var/www/ isn't best practice, simply looking into what others (with experience) do to intially setup a site18:18
jackargkostkon the error is "DVDread could not read 3/4 blocks at 0x05"18:18
ikoniaMrHeavy: I'm not actually bothered about conversion, just putting that sort of thing on the public internet is a huge security risk18:18
kostkonjackarg, try with totem.18:18
hitsujiTMOneverblue: go thru the apache docs ... if you want phpmyadmin then at least add http auth for it to add another layer of security18:18
neverblueSchrodingersScat: is juju a site ?18:18
MrHeavyikonia: Easy enough to hide it behind an SSH tunnel and allow access only from localhost, which would be advice that's actually helpful instead of condescending18:18
aikeruWhere can I find instructions on how to find ubuntu drivers for an hp laptop so I can get suspend resume working? :)18:19
ikoniaMrHeavy: nothing condenscending about it - it's a security risk, I'm warning him of it18:19
SchrodingersScatneverblue: http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/tools/juju18:19
neverblueSchrodingersScat: perhaps you are referring to Cloud services ?18:19
shauntabletAre we talking a production on the internet box if so i rescind my statemet18:19
neverblueah, you were18:19
MrHeavyDunning-Kruger elitism is the worst elitism18:19
SchrodingersScatneverblue: gazillions of components, i'm not even sure how much that is, sounds like a lot.18:19
kaenman I've read the term Dunning-Kruger more times in the last three months than I have in my whole life18:19
hitsujiTMOneverblue: juju is a management interface for setting up services on ubuntu ... i would recommend staying clear of it until you know how to configure all the services you need yourself18:20
UrielVigilantstartup disk!18:20
neverblueanyways... ill wonder somewhere else18:20
UrielVigilantusb!18:20
SchrodingersScathitsujiTMO: but the video depicts that i will have a magic wand.18:20
kaenreminds me of when Sapir-Whorf got blogged about a few times18:20
MrHeavyneverblue: /var/www is just a directory18:21
UrielVigilantwhy is startup usb creator failing installation on ubuntu 13.1018:21
jackargkostkon now totem has a different error, saying that it can't play the dvd because it doesn't have the plugins to read from disc18:21
UrielVigilant?18:21
MrHeavyLay things out whatever way makes sense to you18:21
Thoams_try not to chmod /*18:21
MrHeavyFrom your question I'm assuming you're just getting started and experimenting with the stuff18:21
Thoams_that SUCKS.18:22
MrHeavyDo whatever makes your life easy, provided it's not a risk to your system18:22
Thoams_"I can't SSH...!"18:22
kostkonjackarg, hmm. you just did that. first of all try with another dvd disc18:22
neverblueMrHeavy: i believe the is a public/private folders within the userspace to set sites up...18:22
jackargkostkon hold on i'm installing gstreamer18:22
MrHeavyUserdirs? You can use that, or not. It depends on what you're trying to do, exactly.18:23
kostkonjackarg, install or reinstall it yes18:23
MrHeavyI've never found them much help, personally.18:23
dogeatini got some error message in dmesg  its darmok and jalad at tanagra18:23
kostkonjackarg, gstreamer consists of a lot of packages18:23
MrHeavyThey were handy in the early days of web hosting before people had domain names and stuff18:23
jackargkostkon i'm just doing totem-plugins-extra18:23
jackargkostkon cross your fingers :)18:23
neverblueMrHeavy: as for permissions, do I create new credentials for a user within the /var/www folder that has read/write on the folder/files for the site, or do I simply use sudo everytime ?18:24
kostkonjackarg, that package is irrelevant im afraid18:24
jackargdammit18:24
erkulesHiho question about openstack-havana@13.10 Does it ship with the new lxc-driver? ( http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/saucy/nova/saucy/view/head:/nova/virt/lxc/driver.py)18:24
MrHeavyneverblue: Least possible privilege is generally a good idea until it makes users unable to get work done18:24
aikeruHow do I find out what chipset and motherboard I have from inside Ubuntu?18:24
jackargkostkon you are right, which package should i get then?18:24
kostkonjackarg, you would need to install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package18:24
aikeru(and any other common hardware for troubleshooting)18:24
MrHeavyIn this case, best bet is to create a directory for your virtual host and make sure your site-admin users have permissions on it18:25
MrHeavyThe rules change if you're using suexec or whatever to do credential switching18:25
jackargkostkon i'm gonna try reinstalling it18:25
fersadpoHi everyone. I've got some problems with apache after updating to ubuntu 13.10. It works just fine when I set in DocumentRoot default '/var/www' partition. But when I try to change it to my home partition, the browser gives me the error: 403. Can anybody tell me how to fix this problem?18:25
Mathisenfaugusztin im currently in the " make " prosess of the install ... will it work right out of the box or do i need to make some changes anywhere ?18:26
MrHeavyfersadpo: You probably have a file permissions error, where you have Apache running as www-data and that user doesn't have permissions on /home/whatever18:26
hitsujiTMOfersadpo apache is updated to 2.4 in ubuntu 13.10  first thing to do is ensure that your virtualhost configs are valid 2.4 configs18:26
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shauntabletikonia u may need to check your bios acpi settings18:27
ikoniashauntablet: what ?18:27
neverblueMrHeavy: so another user or just restricted permissions ?18:27
Sazpaimon_I'm trying to configure my machine to connect to multiple openvpn servers at and route requests to them as a round robin. How can I accomplish this?18:27
shauntabletTheres different sleep modes18:27
ikoniashauntablet what are you talking about ?18:28
shauntabletHad to mess with them for os x18:28
MrHeavyneverblue: Good rule of thumb if you aren't sharing access is to create a single user with permissions to edit the contents of that directory and nothing else18:28
ikoniashauntablet: I'm not having a problem that needs acpi settings18:28
shauntabletikonia maybe just a thought18:28
neverblueMrHeavy: running sudo all the time I want to edit the site, doesn't really make a lot of sense18:29
ikoniashauntablet: what are you talking about ??? you've just randomly said to me "check your apci settings"18:29
neverblueand what groups should it be a member of ?18:29
MrHeavyneverblue: That's the point, if you set up your directory permissions so the user can edit the website you don't need sudo for anything18:29
jackargkostkon, doesn't work18:29
MrHeavyExcept actual Apache config changes and whatever18:29
fersadpoMrHeavy: /home/whatever has rwx for all18:29
jackargin vlc: "DVDRead could not read block 0"18:29
neverblueMrHeavy: agreed18:30
jackargin totem, same error18:30
MrHeavyneverblue: Group memberships depend on what kind of access you need to the site. Is it read-only, or is Apache going to be writing files out?18:30
MrHeavys/to the site/to the site directory/18:31
wafflejockikonia: just switched to my desktop so I can actually type18:31
kostkonjackarg, it could be a problematic disc or with some unknown encryption to them or different region dvd. try a different disc18:31
ikoniawafflejock: ??? why are you telling me ?18:31
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wafflejockikonia: because now I can explain http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1138178.html18:32
bluechaosshauntablet,18:32
ikoniawafflejock: explain what ??18:32
bluechaosis not good18:32
bluechaosanother one ?18:32
bluechaosu know ?18:32
FloodBot1bluechaos: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:32
wafflejockikonia: so you were having problems with coming out of suspend/sleep?18:32
ikoniawafflejock: no18:32
wafflejockikonia: or did I get the wrong nick18:32
wafflejockah sorry18:32
aikeruwaffle: I am having problems with18:32
MrHeavyhahaha18:32
aikerususpend or sleep18:32
neverblueMrHeavy: i think I got it figured out, thanks for 'actually' helping ;)18:32
MrHeavyi wasn't sure if you were trolling or not18:32
wafflejockikonia: my apologies18:33
bluechaosshauntablet,18:33
ikoniawafflejock: not a problem, I just couldn't figure out what was going on18:33
wafflejockaikeru: yeah so did you see the conversation I was trying to have with you18:33
faugusztinMathisen: should work out of box, it did for me if you have startxfce4 in your .xsession file... at least id did for me18:33
bluechaosthat software is not what i'm looking for18:33
UrielVigilantok iam using unetbootin, i hope it work for 4048 ram saved to settins and all18:34
bluechaosI need a software what do this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv1AG5qzbgw can do !18:34
bluechaosbut for ubuntu18:34
wafflejockaikeru: u may need to change your sleep mode settings for it to work right... I haven't encountered this issue since I got a System76 laptop and they are friendly with linux, but it's just a matter of switching S1-S2-S3 modes in the BIOS to try it out, I don't believe there's a real risk in trying but would back up anyhow before messing around18:35
Mathisenfaugusztin okej thx for all the help :) lets hope it works..18:35
SchrodingersScatbluechaos: have you seen pitivi? seems to have a similar layout18:36
jackargkostkon nope doesn't work with fight club18:36
jackargkostkon i'm in france, maybe I should change regionset ?18:37
wafflejockaikeru: one last thing here, there appears to be a specific app for working with HP ACPI settings within linux http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man4/acpi_hp.4freebsd.html18:37
jackargkostkon even that doesn't work18:38
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kostkonjackarg, change region where exactly?18:39
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jackargkostkon idk but the regionset says it can't even read the disc so forget it...i'm completely lost18:40
kostkonjackarg, are both the drive and discs region free or region 2?18:40
jackargkostkon, I have no idea. I don't think that's the problem though18:41
kostkonjackarg, try also in mplayer and if you get the same results then it's a hardware prob18:41
jackarg!find mplayer18:41
ubottuFound: mplayer-fonts, mplayer-skin-blue, mplayer-skins, gnome-mplayer, gnome-mplayer-dbg, kmplayer, mplayer, mplayer-dbg, mplayer-doc, mplayer-gui (and 9 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=mplayer&searchon=names&suite=saucy&section=all18:41
kostkonjackarg, many gui options for mplayer :P18:41
jackargkostkon, i got a whole list of errors. i gtg if you want i'll send them to you in 30mn18:45
kostkonjackarg, ok18:46
jetrohey guys, I had ubuntu installed, and just installed windows. I am trying to get grub to work again. I ran the following (from ubuntu Live CD): sudo grub-install /dev/sda118:47
ray_jetro: I assume you installed those two on different partitions?18:47
jetrobut I got the error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?)18:47
jetroyes two different partitions18:48
Ari-Yangjetro: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows18:48
Joelthoughts on what I botched here? http://pastebin.com/2vKfsGs618:48
wilee-nileejetro, you can't just run that command from the live cd18:48
perois it possible for the unity gmail webapp to show unread email count in panel icon?18:48
Godspeed-123Hello18:48
jetroAri-Yang, that is what I am following at the moment, I ran the command they gave sudo grub-install /dev/sda1, but got an error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?)18:48
Godspeed-123Im having a serious problem with ubuntu or mint installation18:48
Ari-Yangjetro: dunno :S18:49
Godspeed-123When i try to boot from usb stick to install it hangs in cursor blinking18:49
jetrowilee-nilee, but that's what it said to do here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows18:49
wilee-nileejetro, use this app, and save the bootinfo summary the url in case it does not fix it. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair18:49
Godspeed-123Im having same issue as in this mint linux link http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=10246318:49
Ari-Yangjetro: did you check sudo fdisk -l ?18:49
hitsujiTMOjoel what version of ubuntu18:49
JoelhitsujiTMO: 12.0418:50
Godspeed-123i can only run it on problem mode with "noacpi noapic nomodeset"18:50
wilee-nileejetro, That is from the install not the live cd18:50
wilee-nileeGodspeed-123, you running mint?18:51
jetrowilee-nilee, ohh ok, but how are you supposed to get into the install if it isn't booting lol18:51
wilee-nileejetro, look at the link I gave you18:52
Godspeed-123wilee-nilee: no i just tested it because i didint manage Ubuntu 12.04 to work18:52
Godspeed-123it causes same issue as ubuntu18:52
wafflejockGodspeed-123: do you have a DVD option I have lots of troubles with the USB installs18:52
jetrowilee-nilee, thanks I'll try that18:52
bjensen82Um why is the nginx package in ubuntu 12.04 lts 1.1.19 when the newest stable on nginx.org is 1.4.3 ?18:53
wilee-nilee!nomodeset | Godspeed-12318:53
ubottuGodspeed-123: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter18:53
neverbluehave a good weekend everyone18:53
Godspeed-123Yes i do have but i dont have any dvd roms available last time i used ubuntu it worked. But i have bought new graphic card its Nvidia GTX650 i belive it has something to do with that18:53
MantissaI'm trying to run the Opera mobile emulator but it complains that 'libQtGui.so.4' doesn't exist. Even though it does.18:53
hitsujiTMOjoel have you looked at the global apache logs in /var/log18:54
wilee-nileeGodspeed-123, try the nomodeset option18:54
Godspeed-123wilee-nilee but i cant even get to installer18:54
Godspeed-123It goes to the blinking cursor18:55
wilee-nileeGodspeed-123, you would not do it there, it is an edit at the first gui, read the link18:55
ray_Anyone tried K(ubuntu) 13.10 with the fglrx driver?18:55
johannfaithfulWhich flavour should I use for Mac 64 or 32 bit?18:55
Godspeed-123wilee-nilee:  i go try the nomodeset18:55
Thoams_johannfaithful: orange18:56
Godspeed-123i belive i have tried it once but not sure18:56
Godspeed-123i come back when i have tested18:56
Godspeed-123thanks for help18:56
ray_johannfaithful: If your Mac has a Intel 64 bit CPU you should be ok with 64 bit I think. Then again I'm not a Mac user.18:56
JoelhitsujiTMO: ... me think's you're not great with apache :P18:57
johannfaithfulray_: ok thanks18:57
Thoams_Joel: IS or HAS.18:57
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Thoams_Me think is you're18:57
Thoams_or Me think has you're18:57
Thoams_take your pick.18:57
ray_Don't tell me nobody is using Ubuntu 13.10 with FGLRX or tried it at least o.O18:59
hitsujiTMOjoel, i am, just jot familiar with jserv and your config looks a bit odd considering listen 80 and NameVirtualHost *:80 is normally declared elsewhere in the default apache install for ubuntu, so i can't take anything for granted about you apache config18:59
ray_you know fglrx aka AMD/ATI Catalyst (that naming and versioning really drives me nuts btw.)19:01
k3n51Hey19:02
ray_Ho19:02
wafflejockI feel like we should break into an irish drinking song #off-topic?19:03
iolausHey all, I'm having an issue with an Upstart script.  The script starts the process using:     su -s /bin/dash -c "$DAEMON -f -Des.path.conf=$CONFIG_DIR" elasticsearch    but when I run a "ps xua" the process shows up as running under "108" rather than "elasticsearch" and the process doesn't seem to have permissions to files and folders owned by "elasticsearch:elasticsearch"19:04
jackargkostkon and anyone who can help: I have trouble playing dvds on my computer, this is the ouput when playing one on mplayer. it then just fails and quits http://paste.ubuntu.com/6272263/       I have tried vlc and totem, they don't work either19:05
R0b0t1My GUI is all out of whack19:05
R0b0t1looks like windows 9519:05
R0b0t1how do I change it back to ubuntu default?19:05
wafflejockR0b0t1: uninstall KDE or TWM or XFCE then intall unity ubuntu-desktop :)19:07
Godspeed-123nomodeset didint help19:07
R0b0t1wafflejock: I am using gnome319:07
R0b0t1And really like, wtf is going on. It keeps switching between win95-ish and ubuntu-desktop/gnome319:08
R0b0t1I had to hardboot due to lockup19:08
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Godspeed-123OK so the problem text what i can get is "Acpi Executed 3 blocks of module level executable aml code" Then I press Enter because it seems stuck then i gives few more lines ACPI interrupt link [lnkc] enabled at irq 11 And the Boot up Hangs !19:08
wafflejockR0b0t1: was just joking here's a nice list http://askubuntu.com/questions/65083/what-different-desktop-environments-and-shells-are-available I'm not sure what you mean by Gnome3 is going windows95 on you though19:08
Godspeed-123please help =)19:09
k3n51Someone here speaks portuguese??19:09
CAPTAINROGERun poco19:09
R0b0t1wafflejock, it's plain grayish colored and big ugly text etc19:10
k3n51Você conhece um outro irc? Sou nova nesse negócio de irc...19:10
hitsujiTMO!pt | k3n5119:10
ubottuk3n51: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.19:10
Godspeed-123I can not install ubuntu on my system anymore please help19:11
wafflejock_k3n51: #ubuntu-es may be better19:11
wafflejock_ah19:11
wafflejock_or ubuntu-br was looking for it19:11
LOLhi19:12
wafflejock_helloL19:13
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Guest7493are there any news about Ubuntu support on Intel Bay Trail-T/M devices?19:14
Godspeed-123K so the problem text because cant install ubuntu what i can get is "Acpi Executed 3 blocks of module level executable aml code" Then I press Enter because it seems stuck then i gives few more lines ACPI interrupt link [lnkc] enabled at irq 11 And the Boot up Hangs !19:14
Godspeed-123Windows 7 works fine but not ubuntu or mint19:15
jackargkostkon, if you're still there, i fixed the error by pointing it to /dev/sr0 instead of /dev/dvd19:16
ixio2!ot19:17
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!19:17
Godspeed-123i have also tested two usb sticks one kingston and other sandisk19:17
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wafflejock_Godspeed-123: unfortunately I think this looks like it might be a deeply rooted issue https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/7/20/14319:18
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wafflejock_have you tried 13.04?19:18
wafflejock_also what about installing without the card installed then installing the card?19:19
Godspeed-123wafflejock_:  not yet but i tested mint 15 and same issue i updated my system with Amd FX-8150 Processor and Nvidia GTX650 and i started to get this issue19:19
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Godspeed-123wafflejock_: is it my processor?19:20
MountainXHi. After a routine update my system freezes at a black screen. I have been through all the help pages/tutorials I can find and I don't seem to have any of the usual problems. Where can I go for more troubleshooting help?19:20
wafflejock_Godspeed-123: it looks like it19:20
Godspeed-123Sad ;(19:20
MountainXIs there an IRC channel that can help with boot troubleshooting?19:20
wafflejock_Godspeed-123: I have a GTX670 and have Win 7 and OS X on that box... I can try with kubuntu and see if I hit the error19:20
Godspeed-123ok i think it must be my processor because i had nvidia card previus than this and all worked fine19:21
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Godspeed-123wafflejock_: i only get the ubuntu start with noapic nolapic commands19:23
Godspeed-123but its unacceptable for me to use it19:23
smrp#raspberrypi19:23
wafflejock_MountainX: I'm not aware of a boot specific problems but you may be able to find a #grub chat or something of the sort19:23
MountainXwafflejock_: grub itself seems to be working fine.19:24
hitsujiTMOMountainX: it could help if you give us the details of the problem19:25
hispeed67sweet. i have ubuntu studio 13.10, installed and working. responsiveness is not what i would expect, probably due to lowlatency kernel. how do i use/make use of a non-low-latency kernel?19:25
wafflejock_yup +1 details, when and how is it failing19:25
wafflejock_Godspeed-123: yeah sorry sounds like you've done what you can without getting into modifying the source and compiling19:26
wafflejock_Godspeed-123: would be good to search for a bug or file one though19:27
MountainXhitsujiTMO: my problem sounds a lot like this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Freeze19:27
MountainXhitsujiTMO: My screen is 100% frozen & black. But I can ssh into the box.19:27
MountainXhitsujiTMO: it started after some minor system updates19:27
icerootis there a way to use something like a "trim-function" on all text-contents i am putting in my buffer (ctrl +c) so that all whitespaces at the start and end will be removed?19:27
hitsujiTMOwhat graphics chipset are you using?19:28
hispeed67mountain: have you configured use of ctrl-backspace?19:28
MountainXhitsujiTMO: ATI HD 6700 with proprietary fglrx driver19:28
MountainXhispeed67: the keyboard is 100% frozen19:28
Godspeed-123wafflejock_: im 90% sure its my motherboard asus with 890FX chipset its Am3 motherboard but with bios update it can run AM3+ Processors what i updated FX-8150 so 890FX chipset is not really orgrinally supported but am3+ processors19:28
hispeed67what about ssh into it and reset X19:29
hitsujiTMOMountainX: can you paste the Xorg.0.log19:29
audreyi rebooted last night and when my computer started back up (lightdm as the login manager) it would kick me back to the login screen when i'd try to log in. I tried switching the login manager to gdm but now my computer hangs at a blue background with the spinning progress wheel. any ideas on what i should do to try to fix this?19:29
hispeed67kernel question: how do i *not* use the low-latency kernel that ubuntu studio installs? can i d/l the same kernel without low-latency, or do i have to compile a kernel?19:30
KeyboardNotFoundCan i view is one file from my pc  is copied to usb ? are ubuntu store logs ? help please19:30
iceroothispeed67: just install the normal ubuntu kernel (sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic)19:31
wafflejock_Godspeed-123: yeah sounds suspect, bummer the processor looks nice 3.6GHz octo-core19:31
hispeed67iceroot: thnx.19:31
Godspeed-123yes and its overclocked 4,3Ghz =)19:31
Godspeed-123Dang im forced to use this forsaken windows19:31
MountainXhitsujiTMO: here is my xorg log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6272419/19:32
wafflejock_Godspeed-123: well you wouldn't really need that processor or Graphics card in Linux though right? I mean can it run Crysis 319:32
wafflejock_:)19:32
Godspeed-123wafflejock_: hehe well this was to be ultrafast ubuntu supercomputer :-)19:33
wafflejock_even my lowly Intel integrated 4000 or whatever can keep up with KSP19:33
wafflejock_ah well just get SSD19:34
Godspeed-123I also updated ssd also19:34
wafflejock_I can't tell the difference in microseconds19:34
Godspeed-123i suspected that first but i removed it and still same issue19:34
wafflejock_yeah I'm running SSD no problem19:34
Godspeed-123Using Sata3 V300 Kingston ssd19:34
Godspeed-123I try once more someday to try install it from DVD but i belive it does not help19:35
wafflejock_ nice think mine is Crucial, System76 Gazelle professional from Nov 201219:35
Godspeed-123:)19:35
MountainXhispeed67: to not use lowlatency, just install the generic kernel package. Once you have that working, use the package manager to remove the low latency kernel package.19:35
MGMTanyone know the channel for picuntu?19:36
MGMTor if there is one?19:36
MGMTI'm trying to make passwd let my password be whatever I want.  keeps saying two shot19:36
MGMT*short19:36
hitsujiTMOMountainX: certainly doesn't appear to be graphics related. do you know what packages were update? /var/log/apt/history.log should identify them19:36
Godspeed-123wafflejock_: im downloading 13.10 Ubuntu to test if some miracle happens19:37
wafflejock_Godspeed-123: godspeed19:37
* gregoryfenton is proud to say that I have uploaded 92586.7MB of 13.10 AMD64, 80912.4MB of i386, 18481.8MB of AMD64+MAC, 2347.8MB of AMD64+MAC server, 2985.7MB of ubuntu-13.10-server-armhf+omap4.img and all figures are rising. #sharingiscaring19:39
hispeed67gregoryfenton: dayum19:39
gregoryfenton:)19:39
MountainXhitsujiTMO: yes, I have that log file. It was a large number of packages.19:39
gregoryfentonput into perspective, that is 1-4 amd64 desktop ISOs and 90 i386 desktop ISOs :D19:40
hispeed67iceroot: that command is only showing the kernel pkgs i have installed (apt-cache search linux-kernel) not what other kernel pkgs are avail.. thinking pkg manager will show kernels available if i search for kernel?19:40
gregoryfentons/1-4/104/g19:41
hitsujiTMOmountainx: can you paste the last update from it19:41
jmgkI'm on a MacBook Pro - CPU: 1 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2635QM - Speed: 2.0 GHz - Battery: Charged - RAM Usage: 6.7 GB / 8.0 GB [||||||||||] - Disk Space: 464.96 GB with 260.97 GB Free - Running: Mac OS X 10.8.5 (12F45) - Uptime: 2 days,  4:3819:41
jmgkoops19:41
MountainXhitsujiTMO: here is the last apt update: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6272477/19:42
hitsujiTMOMountainX: at this point i'm unsure ... sure is a lot of X related updates so could be xserver related afterall.19:44
MountainXhitsujiTMO: the strange thing is that booting into the prior kernel gives the same error19:45
OerHeksMGMT, password too short ( less than 6 char) ?19:45
OerHeksMGMT, maybe this page is your solution, you need to change pam 2 times >> http://askubuntu.com/a/18043519:46
MountainXhitsujiTMO: do you know of a way to revert all those package upgrades?19:48
hispeed67i ran 'lilo' said not installed than tried 'grub' said not insstalled. how do i find out what my bootloader is?19:53
hitsujiTMOMountainX: i have never tried to rollback packages i'm afraid so never looked into it. do you have 3 monitors connected?19:54
wafflejock_hispeed67: I think you can have no boot loader, if it isn't dual booting I think it can go right to the OS19:55
wafflejock_hispeed67: not entirely sure on this though19:55
MountainXhitsujiTMO: yes, I have 3 monitors connected. Always have on this system. No recent changes in that regard.19:55
wafflejock_ah well I have an /etc/grub.d19:55
auronandacewafflejock_: a bootloader is always required19:55
BillyZanehi19:56
icerootis it useful to hibernate hdds when they are inside a raid10? i want to hibernat the complete array (sw-raid) or is this a bad idea for raid arrays?19:56
wafflejock_yeah kinda thought so but also replicated the no grub installed no lilo installed at the command line19:56
auronandacewafflejock_: grub or lilo isn't something you run at the commandline after you are booted19:57
bekksiceroot: suspend is - unrelated to RAID arrays, suspend does not affect them.19:57
wafflejock_auronandace: I get that but seems strange to get the message that it's just not installed when it is19:57
hitsujiTMOmountainx, unfortunately i cannot see any specific issues, maybe someone else may be able to chime in with some thoughts19:57
MountainXhitsujiTMO: thanks!19:57
icerootbekks: ? i am talking about spin-down the single hdds19:58
shayhi,19:58
hispeed67auronandace: when i run lilo, says lilo not installed, when i run grub, says grub not installed.. just installed an additional kernel so maybe ill see the grub menu on reboot19:58
icerootbekks: or better, spindown the complete raid-array19:58
shaygnome 3.8 is messing up with my xkb settings. Can anyone help? (Or try to?)19:58
shay(please?)19:58
wafflejock_hispeed67: check19:58
wafflejock_info grub19:58
bekksiceroot: I wont let my disks spin down at all.19:58
auronandacehispeed67: by default ubuntu uses grub19:59
_graingertcan anyone recomend a good channel for recomending a good VPS?19:59
icerootbekks: but 4 hdds 24/7/365 will result in nearly 120euro19:59
iceroot_graingert: #ubuntu-offtopic20:00
bekksiceroot: And spinning them down and turning them back on will cost: 4 new disks, since disks arent built for doing that.20:00
icerootbekks: so i should never restart a pc, suspend a notebook, restart a notebook and so on i guess20:00
bekksiceroot: Thats not what I said.20:01
wafflejock_hispeed67: that info page is really well written, a bit shocked20:01
auronandaceiceroot: bekks is referring specifically to raid arrays20:01
icerootbekks: my questions is how to savly suspend a raid-array? as it seems the raidarray itself does not have power-controls and when i spin down a single hdd, the raid-array is damaged, so i am searching for a way to spindown safly a raid-array20:01
hitsujiTMO_graingert: maybe #lowebdbox20:01
hitsujiTMO_graingert: maybe #lowendbox *20:02
bekksiceroot: The hdd will not spin down when it is still is use for reading/writing. It will not damage the raid at all.20:03
bekksiceroot: It will damage it if you forcibly spin down a single disk.20:03
icerootbekks: the raid-array will get out of sync when i spindown /dev/sda20:04
icerootbekks: and i can not spindown (with hdparm) /dev/md12720:04
bekksiceroot: If you forcibly spin it down, it will damage your raid array.20:04
icerootbekks: when /dev/sda is not there (does not matter which reason) mdadm will tell me raid of of sync i have to rebuold because sda is missing20:05
bekksiceroot: you have to set a son down timeout - for all disks in the array - and they will spin down when the raid isnt in use for the timeout value.20:05
wafflejock_iceroot: how do you figure 120 euro? that seems pretty high20:05
bekksiceroot: You do NOT spin down a single disk. For the third time saying.20:05
wafflejock_iceroot: ah I see per year20:06
icerootbekks: and how do i spindown a complete raid-array so that all drives will spin down in the EXACT same time? i would prefer a way controlled by mdadm20:07
bekksiceroot: I just told you.20:07
bekksiceroot: you set the timeout on all disks to the same value.20:07
icerootbekks: i dont see a command, you are talking about devices, i am talking about arrays20:07
bekksiceroot: The command is: hdparm20:07
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bekksiceroot: You cant use mdadm, since you want to spin down the devices. So use hdparm.20:08
icerootbekks: and who is telling you that all devices will be spinning down for the exact time? who says that mdadm will write (20 minutes ago) to the exact same second to all hdds? maybe one hdd is still using a cache and is writting 5 second after another one?20:08
bekksiceroot: if you are fearing that - dont use spin down.20:09
wafflejock_is 10 euros a month worth the heartache?20:09
icerootbekks: i am just searching for something like "mdadm will control the spindown times and if mdadm wants it can use hdparm but the control itself should be coming directly from the raid-software (like i asked 3 times now)20:09
bekksiceroot: There is nothing like what you are searching for.20:10
bekkswafflejock_: No, it isnt.20:10
icerootbekks: you decide if it is worth?20:10
wafflejock_keep it civil fellas, good thing you guys can't punch each other :)20:10
bekksiceroot: Do you accept personal opinions of other people?20:10
whatsgoodcjCould someone tell me if I can allocate more space to Ubuntu.. fuck windows20:11
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icerootbekks: if they sound useful, yes20:11
IdleOnewhatsgoodcj: mind your language please20:11
bekksiceroot: Well, Everything is said, its your choice now. I am resting your case.20:11
whatsgoodcjalrighy20:11
wafflejock_whatsgoodcj: I like the attitude, just back everything up to an external drive and clean install :) you can optionally boot to a live cd and use gparted but I generally don't like to fuss with it20:12
wafflejock_whatsgoodcj: I mean minus the swearing :)20:12
whatsgoodcjBut i believe i did that20:12
icerootbekks: ok, thank you for your opinion20:13
whatsgoodcjBy clean install, you mean simply install it through windows?20:13
vltHello. I bought a video card with an ATI Radeon HD 5450 chip (or something like that). I installed the fglrx package but still get "no adaptors present" from xvinfo and a segfault from fglrxinfo. Any idea how to troubleshoot this?20:13
wafflejock_no meant just wipe out windows install from a boot CD20:13
wafflejock_I installed windows in a VM inside Kubuntu (using VirtualBox)20:13
Guest65595High can somebody help me ?? I just installed steam on my ubuntu studio desktop..and ubuntu studio was working perfectly before this..after installing steam and some x. driver for graphics that steam wanted everything froze :O And when i rebooted i cant even get past the ubuntu studio logo before it freezes up:( I dont want to reinstall so please help me! Is there anything i can do without uninstalling steam or ubuntu studio?? Its 12.0420:13
Guest65595if it matters20:13
wafflejock_this way I still have access to Photoshop and the like when I need it20:14
Guest65595 Hian somebody help me ?? I just installed steam on my ubuntu studio desktop..and ubuntu studio was working perfectly before this..after installing steam and some x. driver for graphics that steam wanted everything froze :O And when i rebooted i cant even get past the ubuntu studio logo before it freezes up:( I dont want to reinstall so please help me! Is there anything i can do without uninstalling steam or ubuntu studio?? Its 12.0420:14
whatsgoodcjthen if i ever want windows again, i need to download it illegally right?20:14
wafflejock_whatsgoodcj: make sure you have a backup though... if you have the key on your computer you can reuse it20:14
bekksGuest65595: Try to shorten your text please, so we can actually read the question. :)20:15
wafflejock_whatsgoodcj: you can get legal copies from Microsoft for a lot of stuff and just install the key  you have20:15
wafflejock_whatsgoodcj: also there's some programs you can find that will pull the key for you if you don't have a sticker20:15
whatsgoodcj2nd hand laptop20:15
DDCMIhey ive got a question about moving my install to different drives is there anyone that can help?20:15
wafflejock_whatsgoodcj: if it doesn't work you can always call it in and they've always let me recativate20:15
Guest65595Allright.. Ubuntu Studio = Working fine>> Ubuntu studio + Steam = Freeze before ubuntu boot logo20:15
whatsgoodcjCheers dude20:16
wafflejock_I would grab the key with one of those programs though just google for windows product key retrival cheers20:16
hitsujiTMOwhatsgoodcj: what version of windows are you running?20:16
whatsgoodcj7 baby20:16
whatsgoodcjits muck20:17
Guest65595Does anyone know what i should do?20:17
wafflejock_whatsgoodcj: eh 7 better than 8 IMO, but prefer Linux for development stuff20:17
wafflejock_Guest65595: sorry graphics driver issues and X problems span the spectrum you'll have to try and get more info20:18
Guest65595Really? no one O.o?20:18
CAPTAINROGERsilly barnes and put him hostile info should be afraid; keep on20:18
CAPTAINROGERlanguage and a stupid of his one guy Toniturs20:18
kingjahhi all....I need some help installing Ubuntu...When I boot up to my laptop I get a blank screen. When I boot up , with VGA connected I get the screen. Can any help?20:18
Guest65595How am i suppose to do that when i cant even get into ubuntu O.o? wafflejock_20:19
CAPTAINROGERAllright.. ubuntu on your Lord.20:19
wafflejock_kingjah: does your laptop by chance have a function key with a key that looks like a monitor20:19
CAPTAINROGERand I get to make a monitor20:19
wafflejock_Guest65595: have you tried Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get to a console20:19
kingjahyes waffle20:19
CAPTAINROGERApophasis: yes waffle20:20
wafflejock_kingjah: that may help... no guarantees but I've seen that happen where for some reason the LCD/CRT toggle gets it working20:20
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hitsujiTMOGuest65595: if you cannot switch terminals with ctrl+alt+f1 then reboot. while its booting hold right shift to get grub menu ... this will allow you to load recovery mode20:21
kingjahWafflejock_: play with the LCD/CRT to see what happes?20:21
mikolajI have a partition on my system which is owned by "root"20:22
mikolajhow can I make it available for normal storage?20:22
wafflejock_kingjah: yeah other thing I'm thinking is maybe it's for some reason using a resolution your laptop LCD doesn't support not sure though20:22
kichigaiWhat's in your fstab?20:22
bekksmikolaj: Create a filesystem, set the permissions you want.20:22
hitsujiTMOmikolaj: where have you mounted the partition to?20:23
Guest65595Okeyy....Weell..I have tried that"!! I have tried booting normally into ubuntu....tried booting via recovery mode..tried repairing damaged packages in recovey mode..and wow what a shock that did not work either..lol.. So im reaally stuck20:23
mikolajhitsujiTMO, in /media/user20:23
mikolajbekks, how do I do that?20:24
mikolajbekks, it's ext420:24
kichigaiHey all. I'm currently in a wrestling match with the Broadcom B440x module. I'm running custom-compiled kernel 3.8.0 on x64, built on top of Ubuntu 12.04.3. My module loads fine, but the system still isn't making eth0 available.20:24
icerootbekks: thank you for your help, i was also trying some stuff, i think you are right with your opinion so sorry for my "bad" answers20:25
bekksmikolaj: So the filesystem is created already, now just use chmod to set the permissions you want.20:25
CAPTAINROGERIRC_Homeless: u dare to use my own words, sad20:25
geirhamikolaj: sudo chown "$USER:" /media/user   # now you own it20:25
CAPTAINROGERlolcat, damn it hard and Gibbs energy of the20:25
IRC_HomelessCAPTAINROGER, what words?20:25
bekksiceroot: you're welcome.20:25
comadrini have installed ndiswrapper and winxp linksys wireless drivers. I keep getting module ndiswrapper not found.  I documented the ifno at http://askubuntu.com/questions/362179/installing-wireless-card-no-gui-failed  - looked all over but cannot figure out where i made a mistake20:26
comadrinwould anyone please point me in the right direction20:27
Guest19900i have no sound on ubuntu studio. use intel 82801eb/er (ich5/ich5r) ac'97 audio controller20:27
hitsujiTMOmikolaj: if its mounted as /media/user then: sudo chmod 777 /media/user     or: sudo chmod 1777 /media/user    if you want o+t20:27
Guest65595Guest19900 try / join # ubuntustudio20:27
Guest19900will do, thnx20:28
CAPTAINROGERspeak for it will do, thnx20:28
DDCMIhey linux magicians I have a question20:28
kichigaiDDCMI, and it is?20:29
geirhahitsujiTMO: chmod 777 is bad advice; set proper permissions and ownership.20:29
DDCMII have my HTPC that has a single 1TB drive in it, running 12.10, xbmc, sabnzb, and sickbeard. the drive has a /partition and a /home partition. if possible I want to remove the drive replace it with one drive for my /partition and a RAID volume for my /home is it possible to do this and just copy the partitions to the new drives respectivly?20:29
wafflejock_DDCMI: you should be able to with DD I believe20:29
kichigaiDDCMI, sure, but it would just be easier to mount the new drives, format it, do a proper copy, then unmount and remount where you want them.20:29
kichigaiDDCMI, any reason that wouldn't work?20:30
sangdthhello20:30
kingjahWafflejock_: I am able to boot to VGA (external monitor)then when I disconnect from VGA I can see desktop on internal monitor. I have a Acer Laptop Nvidia GT 650M Video card20:30
kichigaikingjah, Is there one of those "choose which screen to use" buttons on your keyboard?20:30
wafflejock_kingjah: sorry not sure what to tell ya20:30
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wafflejock_kichigai: yah I was already asking about that think he tried20:31
kingjahyes...but when I was pressing I get no changes20:31
mikolajhitsujiTMO, Thanks!20:31
hitsujiTMOgeirha: I would agree in general, but for a basic user 777 might be more manageable, especially if multiple users are using the external device ...20:31
comadrinanyone mind helping with ndiswrapper?20:31
kichigaikingjah, are there any Acer button packages to install?20:31
wafflejock_comadrin: sorry it's always been a mess for me as well, lately have just checked for linux compatibility in advance20:32
kingjahKichigai: I have no idea... Where can I find that information?20:32
DDCMIim just trying to figure out th best way to do it becuase I really dont wantto lose my setup but I need more space and want a little protection against a crash20:32
kichigaikingjah, I'd probably start here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsAcer20:32
comadrinwell, my wireless card worked just find with normal ubuntu installation. I installed ubuntu server one item at a time20:33
wafflejock_DDCMI: if you have the extra drives I would use Clonezilla first to take an image of the disk20:33
hanesat mikolaj; just try it with: sudo chown -R (your_user_name) /media/user/root    and do the chmod only if nesseccary20:33
comadrineverything works perfect except for wlan020:33
geirhahitsujiTMO: Adding a group isn't that much trouble, and it avoids non-priviledged system users getting access20:33
comadrini know i messed up the install or config i just cannot pintpoint where20:33
wafflejock_DDCMI: then after you have that stored away you don't have to worry too much about doing the other dd copying from disk to disk or possibly even using clonezilla again it's just a gui for dd basically (and does some other networking stuff etc.)20:33
comadrini asked on askubuntu.com20:34
comadrinlast night20:34
kingjahThank you Michigai and Wafflejock_20:34
kichigaiNot to spam, but does anyone know why I can't get eth0 to show up, even though I have the right kernel modules loaded?20:34
kingjaherr um Kichigai20:34
kichigaikingjah, Well, you didn't misspell it Michigan, so I'll take it.20:34
wafflejock_haha20:35
DDCMIwafflejock_: right now I have the 1TB drive in an external enclosure and have all the drives in the HTPC, im running of a live disk right now20:36
DDCMII tried to just dd / to the new drive and the /home to the raid but it wouldnt boot20:38
wafflejock_yeah dd will just do an exact copy but won't setup the bootloader for you20:39
wafflejock_you'll still have to go through configuring grub, someone else will have to jump in if there's something else I'm not thinking of20:40
Basil1xIs it possible to get rid of Compiz?  Since the upgrade to 13.10, it's been hosing up my computer.  Freezes, weird effects, all manner of nonsense.  I'd rather not abandon Ubuntu because of it, but if it can't be fixed or got rid of, I will.20:41
gmachine_24Hello. How do I set up a keyboard shortcut? This is one of those things I knew but forgot. I want to set up, or recreate, the ability to do 'ctrl + alt + t' and have a terminal open. Yes, this once happened but has quit.20:41
wafflejock_Basil1x: you can uninstall Unity and go with a different DE so I'm sure you don't need to wipe, not sure about just pulling compiz itself though20:41
wafflejock_gmachine_24: system settings in general20:42
DDCMII  wouldnt mind doing  a fresh install if there was a way that I wouldnt have to go through and do all the config for sabnzbd,sickbeard, and XBMC20:42
wafflejock_gmachine_24: keyboard shortcuts20:42
hitsujiTMOBasil1x: unity is built on top of compiz you you either need to reconfigure unity to a more toned down settings with unity-tweak-tool or install a new desktop environment20:42
wafflejock_gmachine_24: if you need something more advanced xbindkeys takes some work but can do more20:42
sophie_Hiya, on my Nvidia settings it says that at level 3 I have a memory transfer rate of 6008mhz, but when I run the Unigine Heavan benchmark it only shows 3004mhz, any idea why this is?20:42
Basil1xI'll just switch to Xfce.  It's annoying as hell, but I can't have my computer throwing up every time I try to use it.20:43
wafflejock_Basil1x: I'm liking KDE a lot now20:43
wafflejock_Basil1x: XFCE just feels ancient to me, though it is snappy20:43
Basil1xKDE is lovely, but is chewed up my Thunar.20:43
kingjahKichigai: If my model is not on the list...it's not compatible right?20:44
hdonhi all :) ubuntu 12.04 question: is there a 32-bit zlib dev package i can install to /usr/lib32 with apt?20:44
hitsujiTMOBasil1x: you canalso do gnome if you want to stick to something close to unity20:44
hitsujiTMOcan also*20:44
Basil1xI have no icons at all, and I refuse to use Dolphin.20:44
kingjahI tried elementary OS before this20:44
gmachine_24wafflejock_: thanks, I was hoping for the keyboard shortcuts to creating keyboard shortcuts20:44
Jordan_Ukingjah: It's not that simple unfortunately. If your machine isn't on that list it means that nobody tested Ubuntu on that machine and shared their experience. It could work or not.20:45
MonkeyDust!find zlib precise | hdon20:45
ubottuhdon: Found: libcompress-raw-zlib-perl, libruby, libruby1.8, perl, perl-modules, zlib1g, zlib1g-dbg, zlib1g-dev, clisp-module-zlib, gambas2-gb-compress-bzlib2 (and 29 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=zlib&searchon=names&suite=precise&section=all20:45
wafflejock_gmachine_24: yeah it varies from different distros, I'm on Kubuntu now20:45
ShirakawasunaI'm having serious trouble booting the installation media on an ideapad s300. I've tried 13.10 (i386 and amd64) and 13.04 (amd64). All give me a black screen after I select a grub option of 'try ubuntu' or 'install ubuntu'20:46
Shirakawasunathis is a UEFI laptop20:46
* hdon clicks20:46
ShirakawasunaI've tried turning on legacy mode, always get the same result20:46
ekjis anyone getting trouble installing amd_64 element os?20:46
ShirakawasunaI've also verified the md5sum of each ISO and tried using both the built-in usb stick creator and unetbootin20:46
hitsujiTMOShirakawasuna: try booting with nomodeset20:46
ShirakawasunaSo... any ideas? Any ways I can edit the grub menu to get it to work?20:46
ShirakawasunahitsujiTMO: will do!20:47
FabianCookHey guys, can someone direct me to a ubuntu mobile IRC?20:47
hitsujiTMOFabianCook: #ubuntu-touch20:47
FabianCookI should have figured -.-20:47
hdonMonkeyDust, well according to packages.ubuntu.com, the supported architectures are "amd6 i386" however my package only contains the former binaries20:49
zykotick9Shirakawasuna: have you tried nomodeset?  see "/msg ubottu nomodeset" for details.20:49
hdonhttp://pastebin.mozilla.org/330045320:49
OerHeks!uefi20:49
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI20:49
JoshiewowaDoes anyone here know if there is a webpage or something where people have compiled a list of all known ubuntu compatible laptop models?20:50
MonkeyDusthdon  maybe you need ia32 libs multiarch20:50
OerHeks!hcl20:50
ubottuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection20:50
JoshiewowaThanks.20:50
hdonMonkeyDust, i'm not exactly familiar with ubuntu, what do you mean?20:51
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mordonezHi guys, for some reason when I login it takes me back to the login screen again, I am using Luna os, and I don't know what logs to see20:51
mordonezany help is very appreciated20:51
ShirakawasunaWell I'm getting something now, at least20:51
Shirakawasunathe display is very wonky20:51
Shirakawasunathe ubuntu UEFI guide doesn't have nomodeset, or any other boot options. Super annoying.20:52
OerHeksmordonez, luna os could have its own issues. we don't know.20:52
ShirakawasunaIt appears I've gotten to a corrupted terminal, not X / the installation dialog20:52
MonkeyDusthdon  never mind my comment, it's no longer there in saucy20:53
hitsujiTMOmordonez: this is ubuntu support, try #elementary for luna os support20:53
OerHeksmordonez, joint #elementary20:53
mordonezthanks20:53
OerHeks-t20:53
hdonMonkeyDust, i'm on 12.0420:53
DJAMBAhey.. i'm having a problem with my interfaces on ubuntu server 13.04 ... i have 2 ethernet cards installed, and recently configured the 2nd NIC with a static address in /etc/network/interfaces ... i can ping the addresses of both interface cards, but only when the original NIC is plugged in. If I move the wire to the 2nd NIC, i can't ping it .. its as if the interfaces are bridged, but...20:55
DJAMBA...there's no bridge config there.. any ideas?20:55
MonkeyDusthdon  yeah, try installing ia32-libs-multiarch20:55
hitsujiTMODJAMBA: can you paste the config?20:55
DJAMBAof /et/network/interfaces?20:56
hitsujiTMOyes20:56
DJAMBAsure.. 2 secs20:56
bekksifconfig -a from the guest.20:57
hitsujiTMOyou can use pastebinit to make things easier: cat /etc/network/interfaces | pastebinit20:57
bekksand VBoxManage showvminfo ...20:57
Shirakawasunaalso I don't think nomodeset is working20:57
Shirakawasunathe terminal is super garbeled, but definitely high-res20:57
hitsujiTMOShirakawasuna: if nomodeset aint helping, try acpi=off20:58
DJAMBAhttp://pastebin.com/k0zxytXJ20:58
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tankerkiller125Some one please help when I try to login to my account on my new ubuntu install it starts to but then boots me strait back to the login. I've tried multiple solutions to this problem but none seem to work21:00
ShirakawasunahitsujiTMO: no luck, still garbled stuff21:00
k1ltankerkiller125: see if the .Xauthority file belongs to your user in your users home (and not root)21:01
hitsujiTMOShirakawasuna: can you try ctrl+alt+f1 to change tty?21:01
ShirakawasunahitsujiTMO: nomodeset is progress - instead of nothing, I get a garbled loading screen, then a garbled tty21:01
ShirakawasunahitsujiTMO: yes and it's instant21:01
Shirakawasunawhich seems like kms to me21:01
tankerkiller125How would I go about checking that file all I have access to is the terminal21:02
txithihausenHi fellows, I'm dealing with a problem to compiling a make-based project on my ubuntu 13.04. Everytime I get the following error during configure phase: "configure: error: zlib or zlib header file not found, please install it"21:02
hitsujiTMOis tty1 garbled?21:02
k1ltankerkiller125: see "ls -al" in your /home21:02
hitsujiTMOShirakawasuna: switching tty would be expected to be instant21:02
txithihausenNevertheless, even I have installed zlib1g-dev package it doesn't work21:03
txithihausenAnybody has faced such a similar problem?21:03
DJAMBAI've just updated the pastebin with a bit more info, yuo can see the arp cache just has the one MAC address, but ifconfig shows that they are 2 seperate interfaces..21:04
tankerkiller125Ok hold on I'm booting my Ubuntu machine now21:04
hitsujiTMODJAMBA: config does look ok ofc, i'm not familiar with how having 2 interfaces on the same lan segment affects networking tho21:04
jribtankerkiller125: what are you compiling?21:04
jribtxithihausen: what are you compiling?21:04
DJAMBAhttp://pastebin.com/tuQxdLAM21:04
txithihausenomnet++ (http://www.omnetpp.org/)21:05
tankerkiller125Not me I'm working on a login problem21:05
jribtankerkiller125: you need to install the -dev packages for zlib21:05
jrib!compile | tankerkiller12521:05
ubottutankerkiller125: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first). Also read !checkinstall21:05
jribergh21:05
jrib!compile | txithihausen21:05
ubottutxithihausen: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first). Also read !checkinstall21:05
ErnstEminehello. How can i join  the german ubuntu chanel?21:06
wylde!de | ErnstEmine21:06
ubottuErnstEmine: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!21:06
OerHeks /join #ubuntu-de21:06
hitsujiTMODJAMBA: something weird going on there ... both ips are going to the same mac address21:06
txithihausenjrib and ubottu I've already check that21:06
ErnstEminethank you1 danke schön :)!21:06
jribtxithihausen: what do you mean?  You've already installed the -dev package for zlib?  What did you install exactly?21:07
tankerkiller125I'm not compiling anything I can't login to my ubuntu computer because I login but it throws me back at the login screen and yes the .Xauthority file is there21:07
ShirakawasunahitsujiTMO: tty1 is garbled21:07
txithihausenI installed the build-essentials and its dependencies. I have also installed the omnet package dependencies.21:08
jrib!who | tankerkiller12521:08
ubottutankerkiller125: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)21:08
jribtxithihausen: you need to install the -dev package for zlib21:08
hitsujiTMOShirakawasuna: do you know what hardware you are running? particularly gfx, very unusual to see tty1 as being garbled21:08
txithihausenjrib, sure. I did that.21:08
jribtxithihausen: what exactly did you install?21:09
hitsujiTMODJAMBA: does the same thing happen if eth1 is assigned to a different subnet?21:09
tankerkiller125k1l: I have a .Xauthority file21:09
ShirakawasunahitsujiTMO: I think it's intel hd400021:09
txithihausenI installed zlib1g-dev package21:09
ShirakawasunahitsujiTMO: it's an ideapad s300 - some celeron-quality cpu + graphics stuff21:09
OerHekstxithihausen, maybe this page is any help with required dev packages >> http://pharos.ece.utexas.edu/wiki/index.php/How_to_Install_OMNeT%2B%2B_4.2.2_on_Ubuntu_12.0421:09
k1ltankerkiller125: yes, but does it belong to your user:user  or to root:root when you put "ls -al" in a tty?21:10
jribtxithihausen: pastebin full input and output of your compile attempt.  Include "apt-cache policy zlib1g-dev"21:10
tankerkiller125How would I tell21:10
DJAMBAi'll try it..21:10
tankerkiller125k1l: How would I tell weather it's root or mine21:10
k1ltankerkiller125: you are logged into a terminal? or are you in  tty konsole?21:10
icerootcould someone explain this to me? i expected to see my 5 hdds in /dev/disk/by-uuid/ but i only see 4 (and all with different uuids). i want to use the uuids in hdparm.conf and that wants /dev/disk/by-uuid/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/6272947/21:10
txithihausenDerHeks, thank you for your help. But i've already tried this.21:11
txithihausenjrib, just a moment please21:11
icerootah, sda1 instead of sda but still one drive is missing21:11
tankerkiller125k1l: the ctrl + alt + F1 whatever that one is21:11
hitsujiTMOShirakawasuna: celeron 887 will have a lot of difficulties running unity. can you try booting lubuntu or xubuntu installer?21:11
OerHeksiceroot is see : sda sdb sdc sdd sde = 521:12
icerootOerHeks: and on ls i see 421:12
ShirakawasunahitsujiTMO: I've also tried xubuntu21:12
ShirakawasunahitsujiTMO: same thing21:12
k1ltankerkiller125: ok, that is a tty. that is fine. login with your user and then type "ls -al" into it. that will list all the file and folders and will show the owner and the group owner21:12
ShirakawasunahitsujiTMO: It's not even failing at unity - it's failing at tty121:12
Shirakawasunaand at boot21:12
icerootOerHeks: and i am expecting 5 in /dev/disk/by-uuid/21:13
k1ltankerkiller125: so in the line with the .Xauthority file does it say your username twice or does it say "root" twice at the beginning of that line?21:13
OerHeksiceroot odd, i would expect sde too, but it shows the  UUID_SUB= only ?21:13
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tankerkiller125k1l: My username twice21:13
txithihausenjrib, look http://pastebin.com/UwxfTPd9 and http://pastebin.com/iEifjXPU21:14
txithihausenjrib, it's important to mention that i'm using gcc/g++-4.621:14
k1ltankerkiller125: ok. that was my first guess, that this error could be caused by a wrong ownership. but your user is fine21:14
icerootOerHeks: i am not sure how /dev/disk/by-uuid/ is working, sd[a-d] are on the same controler, sde is on another controller but still i would expect all 5 drives there. maybe i will find something different for hdparm instead of /dev/disk/by-uuid/21:15
tankerkiller125k1l: Ok and I also can't use guest account or anything like that either just to let you know21:15
txithihausensince if I compile againts gcc-4.7 it fails with "unable to find string literal operator ‘operator"" LL’" problem21:15
OerHeksiceroot, maybe your pointer is in md volume, what if you "cd to " that sde partition, does it show correct ?21:16
hitsujiTMOShirakawasuna: i understand that. i'm running on similar hardware here and not getting any such issues ( P 987 ). i'm at a loss at where the problem is. but it would be interesting to see if the issue is also on ubuntu server ( its a console only install ) as this would be a simple way of ruling out if xserver is involved in the issue if it happens here too21:16
DJAMBAso, i moved a machine onto a different subnet, and tried again but still no joy.. the interfaces are being really strange..i had a vibro interface there from virtualbox, so don't know if its put some strange config somewhere..21:16
k1ltankerkiller125: what model and make is that pc/laptop? what videocard? did you use encryption?21:16
icerootOerHeks: the partition itself is fine (sde = / and encrypted swap)21:16
Hundredi'm bored21:16
ShirakawasunahitsujiTMO: hmm21:16
jribtxithihausen: why do you feel it's important to mention that?  Are you not using gcc from the repos?21:17
hitsujiTMODJAMBA: both ips are still on the same mac?21:17
tankerkiller125k1l: No encryption HP a1700n 4GB DDR2 memory module and Radeon HD 6570 And Just finished installing the drivers and rebooted when this happened21:17
icerootOerHeks: but i also dont get why the uuids are different. i have the uuid for /dev/sda1 and the UUID-SUB ( i was building the array on /dev/sda1 partition) so blkid is not working with /dev/sda but that is ok21:17
OerHeksiceroot, this is over my head, not sure where to look for :(21:18
txithihausenjrib because i have to downgrade gcc to version 4.6 since it not breaks with  "filereader.cc:596:59: erro: unable to find string literal operator ‘operator"" LL’"21:18
OerHeksThere must be a simple explanation for it.21:19
jribtxithihausen: how did you downgrade?21:19
txithihausenapt-get install g++-4.621:19
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icerootbekks: btw, hdparm is set to spindown sd[a-d] all on 20 minutes, this is the result :) but the array is still working, so everything is fine, mdadm is waiking up the missing 2 hdds before doing any action but still wired http://paste.ubuntu.com/6273004/21:19
k1ltankerkiller125: so it worked. you installed the drivers (which driver and where from?) and after a reboot it doesnt work?21:19
txithihausenand set it on a omnet configuration file21:20
tankerkiller125Yes the drivers where from the official amd support site here http://support.amd.com21:20
k1ltankerkiller125: :/21:21
k1ltankerkiller125: ubuntu ships drivers which are made compatible with ubuntu. you should always prefer those and not load anything from other sites21:21
tankerkiller125k1l: Ok so how would I go about removing the amd drivers21:22
DJAMBAeth1 now has an IP of 1.1.1.2, and I plugged another machine in with 1.1.1.1 - but cannot ping it21:23
k1ltankerkiller125: sorry im not familiar with the amd drivers. im not sure if that installer got a remove command.21:23
k1ltankerkiller125: maybe someone in here knows that21:23
tankerkiller125k1l: Ok well I'll check google first21:23
wafflejock_DJAMBA: what's doing the routing?21:25
hitsujiTMODJAMBA: but is the system still showing both ips on the one mac in the arp cache?21:25
bekksiceroot: whats weird?21:25
DJAMBAwafflejock_: not doing any routing, just set up a laptop and plugged it directly into nic2 (eth1) with ip's of 1.1.1.1 & 1.1.1.221:27
Jordan_UDJAMBA: Please pastebin the complete output of "ifconfig".21:27
icerootbekks: so many... :)21:28
wafflejock_DJAMBA: yeah just tracked back the conversation some didn't see your posts earlier21:28
DJAMBAupdated the pastebin with ifconfig.. http://pastebin.com/kbcyhQ7r21:28
icerootbekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6273038/  different uuids, not all hdds are sleeping, the array is still alive :) but i will stop thinking about it, its doing what i want so i am happy but its really confusing me21:29
DJAMBAi removed a vibro interface earlier in case it was interfering21:30
icerootand 5 min was only for testing, i will switch to 30 min21:30
bekksiceroot: putting your disks down that often will shorten their lifetime a lot.21:30
hitsujiTMODJAMBA: i'm afraid i've never experienced anything like this issue before so i'm gonna have to chime out. good luck21:30
DJAMBAno problem hitsujiTMO thanks for your time21:30
Jordan_UDJAMBA: So you have two different ethernet interfaces on completely different networks. What is the ip address of the computer you're trying to use to ping 1.1.1.2 ?21:30
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DJAMBAJordan_U: 1.1.1.121:31
Jordan_UDJAMBA: And are these two computers connected via a switch, a single ethernet cable, or a router?21:31
DJAMBAsingle cable21:31
hitsujiTMOjordan_u: it's djamba's arp cache that seems the interesting part of the problem21:31
war59312well "shutdown" is broken in 13.10. That is, when I click the "shutdown" button at the top right, nothing happens. Waited half an hour to be sure.21:32
Nolthello21:33
Noltneed a hand with fixing splash screen in Ubuntu 13.10, anyone got working fixo for this ?21:34
tankerkiller125k1l: Thanks for your help and a little google now it works21:34
war59312so what's the cleanest way to shutdown and poweroff ubuntu via command line?21:34
Jordan_UDJAMBA: Can you pastebin the output of ifconfig from the other machine?21:34
hitsujiTMOwar59312: sudo poweroff21:34
Jordan_Uwar59312: sudo shutdown -h now21:34
wafflejock_DJAMBA: a crossover cable?21:34
MonkeyDustwar59312  sudo init 021:35
k1ltankerkiller125: fine21:35
wafflejock_DJAMBA: I think you need a switch otherwise21:35
DJAMBAwhen i plug the eth0 interface into the switch, and i have the /etc/network/interfaces as per the paste bin then i can ping eth1 but only when eth0 is plugged in, and  my arp cache only shows eth0 - but the ifconfig shows 2x MAC addresses :S21:35
DJAMBAyeah, crossover, the link lights up21:35
wafflejock_DJAMBA: ah k21:35
et09i upgraded from raring to saucy - my nvidia GLX has stopped working totally21:36
war59312thanks guys... going to try "sudo shutdown -h now" . Without the h it never powers off.21:36
et09glxinfo returns about 200 lines of "Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display":0"."21:36
tankerkiller125Is it possible for me to like just move my current ubuntu install and all it's files to a different hard drive21:36
TKingplease i am trying to reinstall ubuntu but my HDD has backup partition where i stored file, when i go to the advanced option to install in dev/sdb2(ext) it gives error that no root file system is defined? i do not want to format the whole drive but reinstall in same place without altering partition but still install in dev/sdb2 ext421:36
adamxOn the same computer, tankerkiller125?21:36
et09tankerkiller125: yes, if you resync grub and stuff21:36
et09or whatever else is applicable21:37
adamxCould clone it over et0921:37
nolt_anyone ? could help me with splash screen ?21:37
wafflejock_tankerkiller125: clonezilla I keep saying it but it will work if you have 3 drives you can move from source to backup to destination... or you can go direct I believe but I prefer having backups21:37
Jordan_UTKing: You need to set the mountpoint of the partition you want to be your root partition to '/'.21:37
hitsujiTMOet09 whats output of: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep "(EE)"21:37
tankerkiller125wafflejock_: Thanks I'll try it21:37
jribtankerkiller125: does configure get past zlib when you use 4.7?21:37
DJAMBAJordan_U: the other machine is a windows box, but its just a static ip configured 1.1.1.1 / 255.255.255.0, and pinging from windows to linux, so no firewall issues :)21:38
Jordan_Unolt_: Start by desctibing what exactly happens when you boot, and what you expect to happen instead.21:38
et09king1337-2: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/707565521:38
tankerkiller125jrib: ?21:38
war59312no luck, still no power off.. looks like -P may be a better choice...21:38
jribtxithihausen: does configure get past zlib when you use 4.7?21:38
jribtankerkiller125: sorry.21:38
tankerkiller125war59312: try sudo shutdown21:38
txithihausenjrib, with gcc 4.7 the configure phase works fine. It breaks on compilation phase21:39
nolt_Jordan_U: simply no correct splash screen after boot (installed nvidia-325 from edgers ppa)21:39
nolt_i found some solutions with hwinfo but there is no any package like this in 13.1021:39
Jordan_Unolt_: What do you mean by "no correct splash screen"? What do you see at boot?21:39
jribtxithihausen: can you explain why you can't use 4.7?21:40
TKingJordan_U i clicked change and selected Mount as "/" but under the menu "Device for boot loader installation" the option is /dev/sdb121:40
nolt_when my ubuntu boots I got wierd splash screen, tiny dots and above them text Ubuntu21:40
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MoonlightningSo what's 17.10 gonna ba called?21:41
hitsujiTMOnolt_ did you look at this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#Boot_Splash_Screen_Issues21:41
txithihausenjrib, when I try to compile with gcc-4.7 it fails with the following error  => http://pastebin.com/AcWwj7en21:41
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Jordan_UDJAMBA: Try using a proper ip address for a link local network, like 10.0.0.1 instead of 1.1.1.121:41
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tackleremoteInstalled Ubuntu Server. Used sudo commands a lot, no problems. I come back 5 days later (no one else has logged in) and all of a sudden my main (and ONLY) user is no longer in sudoers. What gives? Is this normal? I can't guess why I wouldn't be sudoer any more. There's no way to admin this server now.. :/21:42
nolt_hitsujiTMO: nope, are you sure its work fine in 13.10?21:42
war59312tankerkiller125: Ended up using "sudo shutdown -P now". :) Worked perfectly. :D Thanks guys!!21:42
Guest76858how can i ensure i have correct/optimal video driver? im using intel 82865 integrated graphics21:42
Jordan_Unolt_: That's expected when you install proprietary drivers, since the propritary drivers don't support the KMS that Plymouth needs for a full splash screen.21:43
nolt_hitsujiTMO: can't find package startupmanager21:43
nolt_Jordan_U: so what shall I do? what drivers are the best ?21:43
Moonlightningtackleremote: what does `sudo -l` give you?21:43
hitsujiTMOnolt_ your the first i've seen with the issue with saucy tbh ... seems to have been a common issue in the past21:43
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tackleremoteMoonlightning: "Sorry, user delorean may not run sudo on Kontoret."  Kontoret is of course the server and delorean is the user21:44
txithihausenjrib, I saw on https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/cython-users/0CYqw2cRFlg that is it due to c++ needs a space between string concatenations21:44
nolt_this issue was in 12.04, 12.10, 13.04. 13.1021:44
nolt_so i got it all the time21:44
BrianHUGH ... I wish there were a fix for this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/system-config-kickstart/+bug/123631521:44
ubottuUbuntu bug 1236315 in system-config-kickstart (Ubuntu) "Missing libgnome.so library / package dependency" [Undecided,Confirmed]21:44
Moonlightningtackleremote: and you're sure no one else had sudo access?21:44
txithihausenSo, it seem like the omnet is not compatible with gcc-4.7 yet21:44
MoonlightningI'm assuming too that you didn't set the root password?21:45
Jordan_Unolt_: If you want fully pretty splash screen with Nvidia graphics then you need to use nouvea (the driver Ubuntu will use by default). There are advantages and disadvantages to the various drivers.21:45
peromy Gmail Unity webapp still has the Chromium icon - any ideas?21:45
tackleremoteMoonlightning: Yes, this just a regular Ubuntu Server install, I have only set passwd for this user.21:45
tackleremoteduring install21:45
txithihausenjrib, I could try to fix each file with problem but it could raises other problems. Due to that, I tried to compile againts gcc-4.4621:45
hiseed78Jordan_U,  how do  see what driver im using? i have intel onboard graphics21:45
txithihausenops... 4.621:45
BozzaAnybody with a reddit account who can upvote a question of mine?21:46
MoonlightningThat's weird. It seems to me you wouldn't just suddenly lose sudoer status; someone would have had to go in and do it21:46
MonkeyDustBozza  wrong channel21:46
nolt_Jordan_U: I know, but there is workaround that was fixing this issue in propritary drivers but since hwinfo package was deleted from saucy idk what to do ;/21:47
MoonlightningBozza: don't ask for upvotes21:47
MoonlightningIf you want upvotes, post good stuff.21:47
MoonlightningNever ask.21:47
MoonlightningIf you ask for any kind of votes, the only kind you should get is downvotes. :V21:47
Moonlightningand|or flags.21:47
BozzaBut it's keanus AMA21:48
MoonlightningNo.21:48
BozzaAnd I was 15 minutes late21:48
MoonlightningIf it's good, people will upvote21:48
Moonlightningdon't ask for upvotes.21:48
hitsujiTMObozza this is the ubuntu support channel ... this is not the propper place for such questions21:48
et09man i'm about to ditch ubuntu21:49
BozzaThis isn't Ubuntu support... THISS ISSS SPAAAARTTTTAAA21:49
BozzaJK :321:49
et09what's up with this release schedule21:49
Patero-nghello I have a question is it normal for 13.04 to turn off my video signal and hang up when the live version on persistance runs out of space after attemping to install all requeried updates?21:49
hiseed78is there a proprietary driver for intel graphics?21:49
et09hiseed78: xserver-xorg-video-intel21:49
MonkeyDustet09  better explain what's bothering you21:50
tackleremoteMoonlightning: I'm retracing my steps, and this tuesday I installed vsftpd, haven't sudoed after that. Looks like I got the same as this guy: http://askubuntu.com/questions/230690/lost-sudo-privileges21:50
lisp_noobHi, I can't use my right USB port on my Dell XPS 13 after upgrading to 3.2.0-55. Can anyone help me?21:50
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et09i upgraded from raring to saucy - now all my GLX apps are failing21:50
et09glxgears, nexuiz, etc.21:50
et09all with the error Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0".21:50
tackleremoteScary how installing vsftpd can strip your sudo status.. doesn't make sense though.21:50
et09tried everything google suggests, nothing21:50
hiseed78how do i check what driver X is using?21:50
nolt_brb I will got a try some fix and tell if it works ;)21:50
et09hiseed78: i think jockey-text -e video21:51
hitsujiTMOtackleremote: if you type "groups" is sudo in the list of groups you belong to?21:51
tackleremotehitsujiTMO: Nope21:51
Patero-ngsomebody help21:52
timg_hi, is there a console programm to run 2 blocking programs at the same time and push the stdout of both to the stdout?21:52
lisp_noobHi, I can't use my right USB port on my Dell XPS 13 after upgrading to 3.2.0-55. Can anyone help me?21:52
tackleremotehitsujiTMO: The groups I have are just "delorean www-data" - delorean being my username. Is the main user usually a part of www-data? Or could this be some case of mistaken user identity? *cue dramatic music*21:52
bekkslisp_noob: Maybe it is broken.21:53
hitsujiTMOtackleremote: did you use usermod -G at some stage?21:53
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Jordan_Utimg_: ( command1 & command2 &)21:53
tackleremotehitsujiTMO: Bingo, I did, must've messed that up..21:53
MoonlightningYou didn't do `sudo usermode -G www-data delorean`, did you?21:54
Moonlightningusermod *21:54
devnThe instructions for creating a bootable USB stick for a macbook pro seem to be incorrect. I've tried like 15 times now. Archlinux's image works fine, but using the instructions from Ubuntu to make the bootable USB stick just seem flat out wrong. Can anyone comment?21:55
tackleremoteMoonlightning: yeah that's probably what I did21:55
MoonlightningBecause as far as I can tell, that replaces your groups, rather than adding to them.21:55
devnDoes anyone here run Ubuntu and OSX on a macbook pro?21:55
timg_jordan, make watchCss & make watchJs & should work?21:55
everaldHi. What are you using to access Android 4 phone storage? We have been using go-mtpfs on Ubuntu 12.04. But there are no packages for Ubuntu 13.10 now, and nautilus in Ubuntu 13.10 has somewhat better support out of the box.21:55
hitsujiTMOtackleremote: its usermod -aG  to append a group, usermod -G will overwrite the groups .... one thing you can do is boot to recovery mode, or live usb and edit /etc/groups and add yourself to the sudo group... be careful tho, backup groups file first21:55
everaldIt only allows to copy files within nautilus, though, not preview or open them, pity.21:56
tackleremoteyeah I'll have to do that21:56
Jordan_Udevn: Are you trying to boot said USB drive from a mac or from a BIOS based machine?21:56
devnmac21:56
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hiseed78how can i tell what video driver im using in X?21:57
Moonlightningtackleremote: lesson: don't use user{add,del,mod} if you could use {add,del}user21:57
Moonlightningalso: double-check manual pages.21:57
Merisdevn, what model MacBook do you have?21:57
Patero-ngI just asked a question is it normal for ubuntu 13.03 live to crash when it runs out of space while installing update from scratch21:57
devnMeris: early 201121:57
devnMacbook Pro21:57
hiseed78Moonlightning, im writing furiously21:57
Moonlightninghmm? XD21:57
Jordan_Udevn: And you followed http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx ?21:57
devnJordan_U: yeah, those instructions are just straight up wrong21:58
devnor at least that's what i'm starting to suspect21:58
Jordan_Udevn: What image did you download?21:58
devnJordan_U: I've tried a lot of them21:58
devnI've tried with the amd64+mac 13.04, and 12.10 isos21:58
Meris!mac > devn21:58
ubottudevn, please see my private message21:58
tackleremoteMoonlightning, hitsujiTMO: You don't happen to know what groups a fresh install main user usually is part of? Other than its own username and sudo?21:59
Jordan_Udevn: Did you use the standard 64 bit Desktop iso?21:59
devnJordan_U: yes21:59
hiseed78!mac  > hispeed7821:59
hitsujiTMOhiseed78: look at your Xorg log in /var/log/Xorg.0.log21:59
devnJordan_U: i have yet to see it show up in the list of devices i can boot.21:59
Jordan_Udevn: The +mac and the 32 bit isos don't have any [U]EFI support, so those definitely won't work but the standard 64 bit image should.22:00
hiseed78tackleremote, adm, cdrom, sudo, audio, dip, plugdev, lpadmin, $USER, sambashare22:00
hitsujiTMOtackleremote: well all i can say is my current user has: adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare22:00
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hiseed78mine is fresh install of ubuntu studio. last hour or so.22:00
tackleremote<thanks guys!22:00
devnMeris: that was helpful. this might get me further.22:00
devn"Installation only works when you use BOTH a CD-rom installer with a USB-installer in the machine at the same time. "22:00
devnYeesh22:00
gordonjcpdevn: o_O22:01
devnfriggen nuts22:01
tankerkiller125Can any one help me with booting my linux? Every time I boot it i have to goto the boot edit and change quiet splash or whatever it it to nomodeset how would I do this so that it already is set and ready to do this22:01
Merisdevn, yes, the Apple church was so "friendly" to use a non-standard (U)EFI instead of a standardised one.22:01
devnMeris: :(22:01
hiseed78hitsujiTMO, *looks* like vesa22:02
hiseed78\22:02
hitsujiTMOtankerkiller125: what graphics chipset are you using and what drivers are being loaded22:02
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Noltwell I found a solution how to fix splash screen that works for me22:02
Merisdevn, please tell me what this command shows you: sysctl hw.model22:03
tankerkiller125hitsujiTMO: Radeon HD 6570 and opensource from ubuntu it won't run with the other configuration or the screen just glitches and then goes black22:03
Merisdevn, that is a command from within MacOSX...22:03
devnMeris: I'm on 8,222:05
hitsujiTMOtankerkiller125: i certainly do not recommend moving away from radeondriver unless you had to. have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 for info that might help22:06
devnMeris: I'm doing some non-standard stuff which may complicate this whole thing further for me. I have a new SSD that I dropped into my optical bay.22:07
devnI *think* refind will allow me to boot from that drive, but I'm not so sure22:07
gordonjcpdevn: should do22:07
tankerkiller125hitsujiTMO: I was forced to becuase it wouldn't let me login other wise22:08
devnRight now I have my first SSD in the main slot with an OSX install on it. The second drive in my optical bay is going to be split 50/50: Ubuntu on one half, OSX on the other.22:08
devngordonjcp: do you boot rom your optical drive?22:08
devnfrom*22:08
Merisdevn, what I did was this: I used BootCamp to "install Windows" <= Yeah, right ;-) After that I started from my bootable Lubuntu CD (Mac, 64 Bit). ReFit did the rest for me22:08
gordonjcpdevn: I haven't booted anything from an optical drive for 20 years22:08
gordonjcpdevn: I've had my macbook a couple of years and only recently discovered it *had* an optical drive...22:09
devnheh22:09
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devni have the optical that was in this machine in an external enclosure22:10
gordonjcpoh, no, wait22:10
gordonjcpmy PS3 has an optical drive, but that's not really general purpose computing hardware ;-)22:10
gordonjcpI don't think I've owned a computer with an optical drive this century22:10
Merisdevn, I need to sleep now. Good luck in getting your preferred *buntu to install (btw, I own a MacBook from 2007 (MacBook 2,1) )22:11
gordonjcpyup22:11
gordonjcpI'm using a Macbook 3,1 mostly22:11
* gordonjcp -> bed22:12
raven_Hi, does anyone know if there's actually any way to play Silverlight videos on Linux22:12
devnthanks for the help Meris22:12
wafflejock_raven_: wine22:12
gordonjcpdevn: http://www.rodsbooks.com/ubuntu-efi/22:12
wafflejock_raven_: there's a netflix package you can get that does the firefox+silverlight install22:12
Merisdevn, nvm, good luck22:12
MonkeyDustraven_  there used to be Moonlight, not sure if it's still maintained22:12
raven_wafflejock_ I tried wine but it starts to load the silverlight video and doesn't go anywhere22:13
gordonjcpdevn: you need either the Mac version of the iso, *or* an ordinary ISO with an EFI booter22:13
wafflejock_literally you add the PPA then do an install netflix-desktop22:13
wafflejock_haven't tried outside of Netflix, so YMMV22:13
gordonjcpdevn: and what you do is you install the booter on the stick and drop the iso into a subdirectory22:13
raven_wafflejock_ and the netflix package won't let you navigate away from netflix. I need it for something else22:13
gdosmy etho device (through network manager) won't connect after upgrading. forced to use wireless instead, which is odd. suggestions?22:13
wafflejock_I can navigate away22:14
wafflejock_just ctrl+l22:14
gordonjcpdevn: when rEFInd solves your problems, don't forget to make a donation ;-)22:14
MonkeyDustgdos  it's eth0, not etho22:14
raven_wafflejock_ if that is the case, I know that the netflix app is a packaged firefox/wine. If I install it will I screw up my existing wine installation22:14
wafflejock_raven_: sorry dunno I wasn't previously using wine22:14
wafflejock_was using virutalbox for my windows needs22:14
wafflejock_er am using22:15
raven_wafflejock_ I see. I don't want to screw with it because it's running Photoshop CS2 flawlessly.22:15
wafflejock_yeah Photoshop is the reason I have VirtualBox, so I can get stuff from designers22:15
wafflejock_well and do some design tweaks here or there22:15
raven_I don't like having to load up a VM just to use one program22:16
wafflejock_raven_: SSD eases the pain and I don't use it much22:16
kostkonraven_, check out pipelight22:16
raven_hmmmm kostkon22:17
raven_that looks tasty22:17
raven_But I am stupid I don't know how to install via tar.gz22:17
kostkonraven_, http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/pipelight-020-released-with-multi.html22:17
kostkonraven_, btw they don't mess with your default wine installation22:18
wafflejock_kostkon: nice22:18
raven_kostkon okay thanks22:18
raven_let me try this22:19
raven_I see how I can install via apt22:19
kostkonraven_, they use their own wine bottle i.e. their own folder and not .wine22:19
wafflejock_raven_: look for instructions but generally speaking you can just unzip the tar then run an installer file22:19
wafflejock_to install via apt they will have to provide a repository or be in the main repositories22:19
wafflejock_ah nice yeah they have a ppa22:21
R0b0t1Hi, my GUI settings like window title font and color are changing sporadically22:21
R0b0t1how do I stop it from doing that22:21
wafflejock_R0b0t1: it sounds like something is messed up with your themes maybe?22:24
Patero-ngI just asked a question is it normal for ubuntu 13.03 live to crash when it runs out of space while installing update from scratch22:24
wafflejock_Patero-ng: 13.04?22:25
Patero-ng11422:25
Patero-ngyes22:25
icerootPatero-ng: out of space = no memory?22:26
wafflejock_Patero-ng: you mean you chose to install updates during install and it consequently ran out of space?  I haven't seen this before but usually skip getting updates initially so I can get into the system quicker then deal with updates after first boot22:26
icerootPatero-ng: because the live system is only inside your ram22:26
Patero-ngno persistance space22:27
Patero-ngthe problem is not that it rans out of space Is that it disconnects the video signal and crashes22:27
Patero-ngwafflejock_   I'm not installing it is a live run22:28
R0b0t1wafflejock_, what can I look under?22:28
R0b0t1wafflejock_: and sense when would it change of its own volition22:28
R0b0t1since22:28
wafflejock_R0b0t1: yeah I have no idea why it would change, would just be in system settings, either Theme or Appearance depending on the exact distro22:30
wafflejock_R0b0t1: I would just try something different, other thing I've seen go wonky is having problems with compiz (this was a while back) at the time I could switch to metacity and it did better, hasn't been an issue for a couple of years though22:30
k1lPatero-ng: you cant upgrade a live system from 13.04 to 13.1022:31
wafflejock_Patero-ng: yeah you are running the whole system in RAM22:31
Patero-ngk1l  I want to update to the latests patches on 13.0422:31
wafflejock_Patero-ng: so any software installs or whatever are going to eat up your RAM at some point I imagine it will crash22:31
wafflejock_Patero-ng: guess it would be nice if it somehow woudl warn you of this but you have very limited resources off a liveCD just using the CD drive itself, RAM, Processor but not touching the HDD really22:32
Patero-ngwell it crashes also while not doing any update I can run a live system and it will crash is been going on every single time I create a 12.04 13.04 or 13.1022:32
SomelauwDoes anyone know. If I can add a partition with storage to a usb that has been created by unetbooting?22:33
k3n51Hey! Do someone know about any other irc channel? Irc is new to me... xD22:34
iceroot!alis | k3n5122:35
ubottuk3n51: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*22:35
OerHeksSomelauw, you could, when you make that live usb, not sure how to do that afterwards22:35
SomelauwOerHeks: Ok, so if I shrink the usb afterwards I destroy the bootable part?22:36
OerHeksSomelauw, no, i think you need to unmount that usb to do so, so you would need an 2nd live usb22:36
raven_For those of you that are interested I've installed pipelight and it works flawlessly.22:37
SomelauwNope, I'm already running from my harddisk.22:37
raven_If you want to play microsoft silverlight videos in whatever browser in Linux, install pipelight.22:37
OerHeksthanks raven_, and have fun22:37
SomelauwI just want to put some documents on it22:37
Somelauwbecause my other usb's are broken22:37
Somelauwbut I want to keep my linux image22:37
fallingmeatHello coding wizards. I am creating a linked list in C with the amount of nodes as an input. When I try to instantiate a HUGE (ie, 4294967295) number, my PC crashes. However, I think I'm using calloc correctly and this should not happen. Any ideas? Code: http://pastebin.com/4JqB6Zs222:37
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hitsujiTMO!ot | fallingmeat22:38
ubottufallingmeat: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!22:38
OerHeksSomelauw, fastest way is to remake that live usb + "space used to preserve files.."22:38
k1l!alis | fallingmeat i think you should look out for a c channel22:39
ubottufallingmeat i think you should look out for a c channel: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*22:39
robin__Hi guys can i ask for litte help here?22:39
k1l!details | robin__22:40
ubotturobin__: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."22:40
robin__of course22:40
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robin__Iḿ runnig ubuntu 13.10 and i have a dualboot issue. I have a ubuntu installed on an external usb disk and after i installed ubuntu my computer dont boot without that usb disk, can I get it the boot direct into windows 8.1 when the disk is unplugged22:43
hitsujiTMOrobin__ you need to install grub to the external disk, and run windows fixmbr on your windows install22:44
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k1lrobin__: i think you need to fix the windows bootloader on the internal hdd. (fixmbr from the windows cd)22:45
wilee-nileerobin__, You overwrote the windows boot on the computer you have two problems replacing it and putting grub on the external.22:45
k1lrobin__: if you set the pc to boot form usb first it will detect that usb drive and take the grub from ubuntu to boot (if the grub is installed into that usb hdd)22:46
robin__sry new to this how do i install grub on the extarnal disk22:46
robin__external*22:47
gdosmy eth0 device (through network manager) won't connect after upgrading. forced to use wireless instead, which is odd. suggestions?22:47
Guest77421hello guys. How do i see via terminal which program is using the disk read/write?22:47
hitsujiTMOrobin__: boot into ubuntu, find out what /dev/sd refers to the usb hdd then: sudo grub-install /dev/sdX22:48
k1lrobin__: grub-install and set the usb drive as target22:48
hitsujiTMOonce thats done, boot windows and run fixmbr22:48
wilee-nileerobin__, You can fix the external first by booting to its desktop. Run sudo fdisk -l and confirm it's HD letters like sdb for example and then run sudo grub-install /dev/sdX && sudo update-grub X is it's HD letter here just find what it is.22:49
robin__will ty it22:50
wilee-nileerobin__, YOu have a recovery or install disc for the windows?22:50
robin__i have disc with windows 8.1 prewiew22:51
wilee-nileerobin__, cool as k1l suggested you will boot it to its repair command line and run bootrec /fixmbr22:52
robin__okay thanks22:53
wilee-nileerobin__, For the record you can buy a 8.1 activation key and activate that 8.1 if it is not already.22:54
wilee-nileeif it's the preview install22:54
robin__i will when i get my paychek22:55
wilee-nileerobin__, Cool, I'm a 99% linux user but W8 s not a bad OS, I use it for word mainly.22:55
zhanxok off the wallish question i want to install ubuntu on my x86 tablet.22:56
giirtTest22:57
zhanxwhat are the build steps for compiling for an x8622:57
hitsujiTMOzhanx: have you got a usb port on the tablet?22:57
wilee-nileezhanx, should work, some have had to mess with the touch controls is all.22:57
hitsujiTMOzhanx: theres an x86 iso22:57
zhanxwilee-nilee: , hitsujiTMO OTG cable in enroute.22:58
robin__I ' m a windows user to 99% but fastboot and adb to my phone dont work in windows so I installd ubuntu:) I think i will give it a real try22:58
zhanxits an asus MeMo smart 1022:58
k1lrobin__: but be aware that the usb-transfer costs alot of speed.22:58
hitsujiTMOzhanx: thats not x8622:58
zhanxthink grub2 will install on a tablet22:59
wilee-nileezhanx, You might consider the #ubuntu-touch channel there is a saucy install for phines and tablets.22:59
zhanxthanks wilee-nilee22:59
chaotic_goodword word word22:59
wilee-nileephones*22:59
k1l!guidelines | chaotic_good22:59
ubottuchaotic_good: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines22:59
wafflejock_raven_: awesome23:01
freannraki'm trying to configure trackpoint/trackpad speed (the little button/nipple between the keys), but with no luck. Using 12.04 on HP Folio 9470m. I've also tried gpointing-device-settings, but no success. Any suggestions?23:02
robin__kil: i 'm aware of that but i need to start some were  right no i have som problems with ubuntu that I dont no who the fix yet maybee after that it will be my main system23:02
g0bl1n_what is the "default" IM app for 13.10 ? Empathy ? Pidgin ?23:03
Guest77421hello guys. How do i see via terminal which program is using the disk read/write?23:03
wafflejock_Guest77421: iotop23:03
everaldHow can I turn off the MTP (Android 4 mounts) handling in Nautilus?23:03
k1lg0bl1n: empathy, i think23:03
everaldIt interferes with go-mtpfs.23:04
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g0bl1n_wondering how to change the contact list view on empathy...23:05
gdosmy eth0 device (through network manager) won't connect after upgrading. forced to use wireless instead, which is odd. suggestions?23:05
wilee-nileegdos, idetify the ethos hardware to the channel by using lspci to find it.23:06
Guest77421wafflejock_ thank you!!!23:06
wafflejock_Guest77421: np I stumbled on all these tops the other day23:06
uroyanmeI forget the command to login into a MUD, for ubuntu. Not 'telnet carrionfields.net' but #session carrionfields.net?23:06
wafflejock_Guest77421: ntop powertop iotop htop23:06
uroyanmeMy apologies, but I've been afk for 6 months.23:07
Guest77421wafflejock_ hehehe23:07
chaotic_goodreiserFS for the WIN23:08
chaotic_goodso anyone here actually been burned by reiserFS?23:08
uroyanmeOMG it was telnet.23:09
chaotic_goodseems totally superior FS23:09
uroyanmeThanks for listening =) Good day.23:09
g0bl1n_Seems that Google Chrome can't be installed on 13.10. Dependencies issues ?!23:09
thinknowhow to make the command sudo ' /etc/init.d/openvpn start " start at startup? as well as type in password for vpn?23:09
wafflejock_I'm sort of FS ignorant, I hear ZFS is a big thing now apparently and butterFS or something for SSD23:09
hitsujiTMO!ot | chaotic_good better to hold such a convo in #ubuntu-offtopic23:09
ubottuchaotic_good better to hold such a convo in #ubuntu-offtopic: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!23:09
k1lchaotic_good: last warning now: keep this channel clear for ubuntu support. you should have read the guidelines now quite often23:09
wafflejock_g0bl1n_: perhaps try chromium23:10
g0bl1n_wafflejock_, yes, have ir already23:10
Dougie187Does anyone know if it's possible with LVM to split a directory off into it's own partiton?23:10
g0bl1n_wafflejock_, use several browsers for testing, etv23:10
g0bl1n_wafflejock_, use several browsers for testing, etc23:10
wafflejock_g0bl1n_: ah k gotcha sorry still on 13.04 can't help23:10
hitsujiTMOg0bl1n_: run: sudo apt-get -f install    after you install the chrome .deb23:11
g0bl1n_wafflejock_, I stepped up today, from 12.04 to 13.10 :)23:11
g0bl1n_hitsujiTMO, installing the chrome .deb reports a dependency error23:11
wafflejock_nice I switched from Unity to KDE (Ubuntu -> Kubuntu) in 13.04 dust is still settling so I don't feel the need to push up to 13.10 yet23:12
giirttest23:12
hitsujiTMOg0bl1n: yes fix it with: sudo apt-get -f install23:12
hitsujiTMOg0bl1n_: ^23:12
xtrizi find aptitude more efficient and easier than apt-get, but why very few people use aptitude compared to apt-get ?23:13
peromy Gmail Unity webapp still has the Chromium icon - any ideas?23:13
k1lxtriz: apt-get is the standard for ubuntu (and aptitude has/had problems with multiarch)23:14
wafflejock_xtriz: I've literally never used aptitude, apt-get is just how I've always seen it done23:14
wilee-nileepero, Is there a right click properties for it, and what icon do you want?23:15
peroi was hoping there was a way  for it to have a dynamic icon based on unread emails or something akin to that23:15
MonkeyDust!aptitude | xtriz here's why23:16
ubottuxtriz here's why: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. You may encounter multiarch problems on non-updated 12.04 installs, see  http://pad.lv/831768 for more information.23:16
wilee-nileepero, Not sure I have not used it and don't use unity, I run my gmail through thunderbird23:16
perohttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/gmails.jpg23:17
peroi don't get that submenu either23:17
perothe whole unity-webapp thing is very flaky23:17
wilee-nileepero, Don't they tell you how to have that work23:18
perono23:18
peroFor example, add GMail and you get fancy Gmail options in the Launcher and Messaging Menu;23:18
peroyeah that tells me everything23:18
wilee-nileepero, use nicks here, you can tab complete them. Is it supposed to be that way stock?23:18
g0bl1n_hitsujiTMO, can't seem to work, always complaining with dependencies23:19
perowilee-nilee - based on the quote i just pasted that's what it looks like after "adding"23:19
wilee-nileepero, Have you modified unity or compiz?23:20
hitsujiTMOg0bl1n_: can you paste the exact errors23:20
g0bl1n_yes23:20
perowilee-nilee, i'm sure i touched something but nothing crazy - i'm also running a relatively clean since 13.10 but i did keep /home so some of the settings persist23:20
stevecoh1From some ancient system mine is descended from via many upgrades, I have a /boot partition that I don't want.  I'd rather /boot live under the main partition.  If I use gparted, I can merge the two but would lose all the content of /boot.  My plan to avoid this is to mkdir /BOOT; cp -R /boot/*  /BOOT; do the gparted thing.  Then mv /BOOT /boot.  Will this work or will I screw myself up?23:21
Dougie187Does anyone know where I can get information on LVM? I'm trying to migrate my /home dir to another partition without reformatting, but I don't know if it's possible.23:21
wilee-nileepero, I would try a unity reset http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/reset-unity-and-compiz-in-ubuntu-13-10/23:21
g0bl1n_hitsujiTMO, Dependency is not satisfiable: lib32gcc1 (>=1:4.1.1)23:21
hitsujiTMOg0bl1n_: try: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install23:22
Jordan_Ustevecoh1: That will work if after you mv /BOOT/ /boot/ you run "sudo grub-install /dev/sdX" (where X is the drive, *not* partition, that your BIOS will boot from) and "sudo update-grub".23:23
Jordan_Ustevecoh1: Also, you'll want to update your /etc/fstab and remove the entry for /boot/.23:23
perowilee-nilee, that did some funny stuff to my res - let me reboot23:24
hitsujiTMOg0bl1n_: sorry, i think i know what the problem is, are you running 32bit ubuntu?23:24
wilee-nileepero, yeah reboot23:24
g0bl1n_hitsujiTMO, yes23:24
Jordan_UDougie187: I don't think LVM is directly relevant to that question, it works under the filesystem level and so knows nothing of individual directories.23:25
Jordan_U!separatehome | Dougie18723:25
ubottuDougie187: Your home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving23:25
Jordan_UDougie187: Why do you want to move your home directory to a separate partition?23:25
hitsujiTMOg0bl1n_: this is a bug with the chrome .deb ... the wrong dependency is listed ( the 64bit one ) it's a known bug and is being worked on: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=30401723:25
stevecoh1thanks, Jordan23:25
hitsujiTMOg0bl1n_: you will have to wait until google release a fix deb23:26
Dougie187Jordan_U: because I usually do that when I install ubuntu, but I was stupid last night when I installed 13.10 and didn't setup a separate /home partition (I typically use to for "easy" migration to new versions). But I selected to use LVM, as it sounded kind of neat, and then I couldn't figure out how to create a separate /home with it after I selected it.23:26
Jordan_Ustevecoh1: You're welcome. Be sure to have a LiveCD/USB on hand still in case anything goes wrong.23:26
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g0bl1n_hitsujiTMO, ;) thank you23:27
Jordan_UDougie187: Ubuntu's installer will allow you to re-install while preserving the /home/ directory, no need for a separate /home/ partition/volume.23:27
Dougie187Jordan_U: Oh really? i didn't realize that.23:28
everaldWhat's the best way to run a predefined program as root, without asking for a password?23:30
hitsujiTMOeverald: when do you want it to run?23:31
everaldAs part of a script.23:31
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hitsujiTMOwhen is the script running?23:31
everaldi.e. I click on an icon that runs the script, the script will use go-mtpfs to mount the mobile phone, after being done with the program, the script will unmount the mount point,23:32
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everaldby way of a wrapper or whatever that will run umount as root/.23:32
hitsujiTMOeverald: you can add it app into the sudoers list23:33
everaldThat will not ask for the user pw?23:33
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hitsujiTMOeverald: http://askubuntu.com/questions/39281/how-to-run-an-application-using-sudo-without-a-password23:33
H1FuelCellI can't type...23:33
everaldThanks hitsujiTMO23:33
H1FuelCellhmm, my message isn't going through for some reason23:33
H1FuelCell~/.tmp and /tmp both get cleaned up on boot, is that right?23:34
hitsujiTMOH1FuelCell: yes23:34
k1lH1FuelCell: yes, that is what tmp is for23:34
H1FuelCellcool, thanks :) I'll store my temporary file backups in there23:35
kingpunkanyone ever have any luck getting netflix working?23:35
hitsujiTMOkingpunk: lookup pipelight ... worked for a user earlier23:37
everaldWhat's wrong with this entry in /etc/sudoers?: everald ALL = NOPASSWD:/opt/local/bin/umount-android23:38
everaldWhen I run /opt/local/bin/umount-android as everald the umount command that it runs tells me that I'm not root.23:39
hitsujiTMOput a space after NOPASSWD:23:39
everaldhitsujiTMO, I did that at first. Same result.23:39
hitsujiTMOeverald you mean need to relog23:40
everaldRelogin? Well, after "su - everald" from a root prompt, same thing happens.23:41
hitsujiTMOare you calling /opt/local/bin/umount-android   wuth sudo?23:42
everaldAh stupid. Sorry.23:42
hitsujiTMOnp23:42
everaldHeh.23:43
g2kHello?23:45
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g2kdoes anyone know how to use the terminal to copy files?23:46
Dr_Willisg2k:  cp file1 file223:46
hitsujiTMOcp oldfile newfile23:46
Dr_Willisbash basics ;)23:46
Dr_Willis!bash23:46
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal23:46
peroanyone know how to get the icons for unity web apps? my gmail icon in the panel has some settings-looking thing, but in dash it's good23:47
g2knot quite what i need. lemme explain23:47
g2ki have music in my music folder set up as artist/album/song.mp323:48
g2ki want to have xubuntu search all folders in /user/Music/ and copy the *.mp3 files to a new folder23:49
Dr_Willisthats a little vague. give a specific example23:49
wafflejock_g2k: so you want to flatten the folders basically?23:51
wafflejock_er rather copy to a new folder that has the full list? or you want to recreate the folder structure?23:52
g2ki dont want cp /home/user/Music/acdc/hells_bells/hellsbells.mp3 because then i would have to do that for every song23:52
perohttp://lmgtfy.com/?q=find+all+files+in+a+tree+and+copy+them+to+a+single+folder23:52
g2ki want it to extract any .mp3 from all the various folders(album then artist) in my music folder and place the .mp3's into a new folder23:53
perohttp://superuser.com/questions/477480/how-can-i-recursively-copy-all-pdf-files-in-a-directory-and-its-subdirectories23:54
Dr_Willisthats sounds like what pero and  flatening the folders mean basically.23:54
jribg2k: use find23:54
g2kgimme a second while i look at the links provided23:54
everaldHow to best make my script available in Unity?23:57
everaldAdd an entry on the Unity "launcher bar"_23:57
everald?23:57
everaldSomehow make it be found in the dash home?23:57
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perowilee-nilee, that helped to an extent; i have the rightclick submenu but no icon still - it's some setttings-looking thing instead23:59
hitsujiTMOeverald: you could also make a .desktop to the script23:59
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