[00:01] <SchrodingersScat> chsados: do you have that libexif installed? if you are on 64bit, do you have the i386 it's looking for?
[00:01] <chsados> i am on 64bit and apparently that i386 has been depreciated?
[00:02] <SchrodingersScat> !info libexif12 | chsados
[00:02] <bekks> chsados: which is not true
[00:02] <OerHeks> chsados, teamviewer is not in the repository's, read the page, there is a 64 bit version
[00:03] <Random832> My wi-fi connection has been unreliable since upgrading to 13.10
[00:03] <chsados> OerHeks: i have tried the 64 bit and 32 bit and i ran
[00:03] <chsados>     dpkg --add-architecture i386
[00:03] <chsados>     apt-get update
[00:03] <Random832> it sometimes works for a few minutes, then drops to two bars for a while, and sometimes disconnects entirely and doesn't list any networks and i have to reload the module before i can use wifi again
[00:03] <bekks> OerHeks: technically, its a deb that is marked for 64bit, but installs 32bit files ;)
[00:03] <bekks> OerHeks: just a technical detail.
[00:03] <Random832> 02:00.0 Network controller: Ralink corp. RT3290 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe
[00:04] <OerHeks> chsados, well, that would be an bad advise,  dpkg --add-architecture i386
[00:04] <Random832> it sometimes comes back after dropping to two bars (even though i'm very close to the router), but once it drops entirely i can't get it to reconnect without reloading the module or sleep/resume the computer
[00:08] <Patero-ng> anybody here knows how to check if my computer is compatible with ubuntu before running ubuntu
[00:09] <SchrodingersScat> Patero-ng: have you tried a liveusb?
[00:09] <Patero-ng> don't matter how many times I run ubuntu it keeps turning my video signal off and then it hangs, music keeps playing in the background
[00:09] <Patero-ng> I'm trying it from a usb it hangs my computer and if I don't shut off the power after that for 1 minute it makes my windows crash too
[00:09] <Patero-ng> is a powerful flaw
[00:10] <wilee-nilee> Patero-ng, What release?
[00:10] <tjbenator> So my computer is wanting to update to  linux-image-3.5.0-40-generic but my /boot is full
[00:10] <bekks> Patero-ng: the usb is broken I guess.
[00:10] <Patero-ng> the drive?
[00:10] <kostkon> tjbenator, paste the output of:  df -h on paste.ubuntu.com for all to see
[00:11] <tjbenator> apt won't let me uninstall the old because of unmet dependencies
[00:11] <bekks> Patero-ng: yes
[00:11] <Patero-ng> how can it be broken
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> tjbenator, remove some kernels, having a boot partition is not needed.
[00:11] <Patero-ng> I just bought it
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> !tab | Patero-ng
[00:11] <tjbenator> Will it hurt anything if I delete them?
[00:11] <kostkon> tjbenator, no
[00:12] <wilee-nilee> tjbenator, One would keep two sets of kernels generally the one you use and a backup.
[00:12] <Patero-ng> wilee-nilee all 12.04 13.04 and 13.10 hang
[00:13] <linuxchick> #teensonlinux
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> Patero-ng, are you expecting to much from a usb, it runs slower and a live environment has limitations?
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> !spam | linuxchick
[00:14] <tjbenator> For the curious: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6267232/
[00:14] <wilee-nilee> linuxchick, don't spam the channel.
[00:14] <Patero-ng> wilee-nilee I'll try a different drive
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> Patero-ng, this a install on a hard drive running from a usb?
[00:15] <kostkon> Patero-ng, download the iso again, make a fresh live usb out of it
[00:16] <Patero-ng> I downloaded 12.04 13.04 and 13.10 all fail
[00:16] <Patero-ng> is not the iso is either uncomaptibitlity or my usb drive is broken
[00:16] <kostkon> Patero-ng, and try a different usb stick if you can, yeah
[00:16] <kostkon> with*
[00:17] <kostkon> Patero-ng, hmm
[00:17] <kostkon> Patero-ng, what laptop is it
[00:18] <wilee-nilee> Patero-ng, a external even if usb3 will just not act like a internal, not a good way to compare.
[00:18] <kostkon> Patero-ng, also tried on all usb ports?
[00:18] <Patero-ng> can that make a change
[00:18] <wilee-nilee> Patero-ng, without really knowing how hard you driving the OS and what may be running this is pointless.
[00:19] <kostkon> !tab | Patero-ng
[00:19] <Patero-ng> kostkon I'll try the failling drive on another computer if it fails I can know is not about compatibiltiy
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> Patero-ng, So this is a install on a external?
[00:20] <Patero-ng> a 16 usb drive
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> Patero-ng, Is it a install or live?
[00:21] <Patero-ng> live with persistent space
[00:21] <wilee-nilee> Patero-ng, a terrible way to compare if usable.
[00:21] <kostkon> Patero-ng, try it on all usb ports first
[00:21] <wilee-nilee> not the same as a install period Patero-ng
[00:21] <kostkon> Patero-ng, then on another computer ok
[00:22] <Patero-ng> kostkon same thing I think
[00:22] <Patero-ng> I want to rule out the most scaries thing that the usb drive is faulty
[00:23] <Patero-ng> I just bought this 16gb baby at wallmart
[00:23] <Patero-ng> is a tiny lowprofile drive
[00:24] <Patero-ng> sorry I keep forgetting I should use tab
[00:24] <Patero-ng> my irc client is ugly anyway3
[00:24] <wilee-nilee> you can't run a os from a usb and expect any real performance compared to a internal drive
[00:25] <darkelfjuggalo> I just upgraded from Ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10 and the only Theme I have is High Contrast... I can't understand the Software manager to find another Theme so I can get rid of all of this Black and White
[00:26] <OerHeks> Patero-ng, try to make the usb again, without the persistent file.
[00:26] <Patero-ng> i've tried that too
[00:26] <Patero-ng> it failts on both live and persistent mode
[00:26] <kostkon> darkelfjuggalo, try the following:  sudo apt-get clean and then sudo apt-get install light-themes
[00:27] <Derek82> hi everybody
[00:27] <kostkon> Derek82, hi
[00:28] <Derek82> i need some downloading packages and im using ubuntu 12.04 x64
[00:28] <jcorgan> looking for someone to help make customizations to early userspace boot environment ("casper") for livedvd
[00:29] <darkelfjuggalo> Much better, thank you
[00:29] <kostkon> darkelfjuggalo, np
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> Derek82, Can you explain that with clarity.
[00:29] <Random832> My wi-fi connection has been unreliable since upgrading to 13.10, can anyone help me?
[00:29] <Derek82> yes
[00:30] <jcorgan> trying to add custom local-premount script that takes input from user
[00:30] <jcorgan> but for some reason the console input to stdin doesn't work
[00:31] <jcorgan> i can insert a debug break in the script to drop to a busybox shell, and manually execute the commands correctly
[00:31] <jcorgan> but when those same commands are just invoked as part of a local-premount script, they never get console input
[00:32] <jcorgan> so hopefully someone here know initramfs-tools and casper enough to helpout
[00:33] <Derek82> when i do a sudo apt-get update (i get the following message,  see the following link for refrence) http://paste.ubuntu.com/6267293/
[00:33] <Abadious> hellp
[00:33] <Abadious> hell0*^
[00:33] <jcorgan> important enough to solve for me that i'd be willing to pay $ if needed
[00:34] <jcorgan> or bitcoin :)
[00:34] <derrick> where do i set workspaces from 4 to 2?
[00:34] <Abadious> I was looking for some help with groups and vsftpd
[00:34] <Derek82> so what i can do to fix those signatures?
[00:35] <JoseTekila> Hola
[00:35] <JoseTekila> alguien habla español
[00:35] <JoseTekila> ????????
[00:36] <JoseTekila> alguien habla español
[00:36] <Derek82> Any advice?
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> Derek82, try running sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys "bad key here"
[00:36] <kostkon> !es | JoseTekila
[00:37] <uglyoldbob> anybody know of a flowchart program that allows a flowchart to be made with a script and then edited by hand?
[00:37] <JoseTekila> como entro necesito una comunidad de usuarios avanzados
[00:37] <Abadious> hello Derek82
[00:37] <uglyoldbob> ive got some code with 320 blobs that all point at some of the other blobs and would like to find a reasonably fast method of charting it
[00:38] <Abadious> your issue looks like a bug that was also mention in this thread >> | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-extras-keyring/+bug/893743/comments/7
[00:38] <wilee-nilee> JoseTekila, english channel.
[00:38] <Abadious> happy hunting
[00:38] <kostkon> JoseTekila, this channel is english only, sorry. join #ubuntu-es or write in english if you can
[00:38] <Derek82> where do find I the bad keys?
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> Derek82, In your paste run that command and insert the bad sig
[00:39] <guest__> This is horrendus! How can I change the dpi!?!?
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> might just be missing keys
[00:40] <guest__> I can change it through xrandr and xdy whatever reports that I have the correct dpi, but there is no change in the desktop at all!
[00:41] <Derek82> what do i do next?
[00:41] <jcorgan> need to solve an initramfs-tools issue, specifically with the ubuntu livedvd casper early user space
[00:42] <kostkon> Derek82, give sudo apt-get update but since you are already root apt-get update
[00:42] <AxDSan> guys
[00:43] <AxDSan> I was missing around pulseaudio
[00:43] <AxDSan> and now I don't have it anymore..
[00:43] <kostkon> AxDSan, try reinstalling it
[00:44] <Derek82> still have errors c http://paste.ubuntu.com/6267349/
[00:44] <AxDSan> and I can't remember how I can get it back to work, cuz long time ago, I installed it.. from a forum I was checking, and someone posted a solution with a lot of commands to install pulseaudio
[00:45] <AxDSan> when I mean lot of commands... I  really mean it XD
[00:45] <U238Willy> .w 4
[00:45] <dr_willis> any old guide may not apply to new releases also
[00:46] <Derek82> ?
[00:46] <kostkon> Derek82, give this: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-keyring --reinstall && sudo apt-get update
[00:46] <jjosh> i can't unmount a network drive - 13.10 it gives me an error :  Unhandled error message: Error sending data: Broken pipe
[00:46] <OerHeks> AxDSan, so what guide?
[00:46] <jjosh> i need to logout and log back in everytime i connect to that drive
[00:47] <dr_willis> what kind of network drive?
[00:47] <Derek82> its says the following package cannot be authenticated ubuntu-keyring Proceed?
[00:48] <jjosh> vmware fusion, my homedrive on host mac
[00:48] <kostkon> Derek82, ignore the error msg, proceed
[00:48] <darkangel> Ubuntu 13.10 is kickin my ace. if the developers r here WOW u guys sure did 1 hell of a pretty dam good job
[00:48] <jjosh> :o broken pipe here too
[00:49] <Derek82> after that still comes up with bad signatures
[00:49] <jjosh> what is this broken pipe
[00:49] <kostkon> Derek82, you could try selecting a different mirror
[00:49] <darkangel> Main Server is the Best
[00:50] <Patero-ng> ubuntu 13.04 is so flawed it caused another one of my computers to do a gpu lock up
[00:50] <Patero-ng> the image started to go out of synch
[00:50] <darkangel> Did u install the wrong Driver some Driver's has problems
[00:50] <Patero-ng> my pc is a deall from 2006 64mb build in video card
[00:50] <Patero-ng> dell*
[00:51] <AxDSan> @OerHeks, it was something I found on a forum, I dont quite remember now which it was
[00:51] <irrelev4nt> does anybody here know how to disable join /quit notifications in empathy?
[00:51] <darkangel> make sure u dont install the 1 that has WARNINGS on bad idea
[00:51] <kostkon> Derek82, either in software centre, select edit -> software sources from the menu or you might find an entry for it in system settings. nevertheless, run software source and i think in the first tab there should be an option to select a different server etc
[00:51] <darkangel> thats where those kinda GPU problems come from
[00:51] <kostkon> software sources*
[00:52] <kostkon> Patero-ng, what is the graphics card
[00:52] <Derek82> I picked the main server and that did the job and no errors. The U.S servers is messed up i guess
[00:52] <hispeed67> sweet. i recently installed ubuntu on a flash drive. i accidentally installed grub to sda. is there any way to remove grub?
[00:53] <jcorgan> need to solve an initramfs-tools issue, specifically with the ubuntu livedvd casper early user space console access
[00:53] <darkangel> some US servers r bad yes prob just ur area
[00:53] <Derek82> Thanks for all your help!
[00:54] <darkangel> it picks the best server nearest to u and great connection not the error it dont detect
[00:54] <irrelev4nt> @hispeed67 what OS do you run on sda?
[00:54] <Patero-ng> kostkon some old 64mb card build into the motherboard
[00:54] <hispeed67> windows 7
[00:54] <kostkon> Patero-ng, i don't think it can run unity then
[00:54] <OerHeks> us servers should be fine. else there would be 1000+ bugreports
[00:54] <hispeed67> the puter will boot with the flash drive in it, remove the flash drive and it wont boot
[00:54] <darkangel> what Bit u install ?
[00:54] <xous> hrm
[00:54] <kzk> my audio stopped working. can anyone help?
[00:54] <kostkon> Patero-ng, why not download xubuntu or even better lubuntu and try that?
[00:55] <kzk> i'm 99% sure it was because a WINE application using FMOD crashed
[00:55] <kzk> i don't know why that could have triggered it though
[00:55] <xous> the Ubuntu installer is going in a loop
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> hispeed67, you can boot the OS with the usb in?
[00:55] <kzk> i tried resetting pulseaudio but it didn't help
[00:55] <xous> asks me to select a primary interface
[00:55] <hispeed67> yes..
[00:55] <Patero-ng> you're right kostkon is too demanding
[00:55] <darkangel> Patero-ng: whats ur Bit u installed and how much RAM u have?
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> hispeed67, Are you in the OS now?
[00:55] <kostkon> Patero-ng, yeap.
[00:55] <hispeed67> no, different puter.
[00:55] <Patero-ng> I'm going to try it on a icore7 laptop brb
[00:55] <JB_039> does anybody know how to type ^X in the terminal window I just changed an executable file and can't exit unless I type this
[00:56] <hispeed67> wilee-nilee, im puter tech, just need point to fix prolly the boot sector in win 7
[00:56] <darkangel> reset ur terminal
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> hispeed67, You can fix grub from the desktop of that install, boot to it and we can fix it.
[00:56] <darkangel> or type exit
[00:56] <kzk> anybody?
[00:56] <JB_039> tried that im editing the file in the terminal
[00:56] <darkangel> kzk what ya need help with
[00:56] <irrelev4nt> hispeed67, you will need a rescue medium if you cant boot into W7 right now
[00:57] <wilee-nilee> hispeed67, so be clear here than is ubuntu on another HD then sda?
[00:57] <kzk> darkangel: my audio stopped working, no applications are making any noise
[00:57] <Onny> How can I install a different kernel than what was installed by the installer?
[00:57] <darkangel> go to ur sound settings
[00:57] <kzk> darkangel: it might have been because a WINE application that used an FMOD DLL crashed
[00:57] <wilee-nilee> Onny, why?
[00:57] <hispeed67> irrelev4nt: i can boot into win7 on that box. wilee-nilee: win 7 on sda, ubuntu with gnome on a flash drive.
[00:57] <irrelev4nt> you basically just have to rebuild your MBR. Either from within W7 or using a recuemedium
[00:58] <kzk> darkangel: they're fine. i also tried resetting pulseaudio.
[00:58] <Onny> wilee-nilee, it keeps installing an EFI-signed kernel when I'm running on MBR-BIOS
[00:58] <kzk> darkangel: oh wait, my bad, in the sound settings it's not even recognizing my speakers
[00:58] <darkangel> Click Play Sound through Analog output at the Pulse Audio
[00:58] <hispeed67> irrel: that's correct, that's what i figured, just 'scared' of grub :)
[00:58] <darkangel> helps
[00:58] <Onny> makes it boot into kernel panic
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> hispeed67, Not sure I fully understand you predicament to be honest.
[00:59] <kzk> darkangel: it isn't recognizing my speakers in the "play sound through" menu
[00:59] <kzk> it's blank
[00:59] <darkangel> oh
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> Onny, Did the computer have a uefi set up or is it an apple computer?
[00:59] <hispeed67> wilee-nilee: i installed ubuntu to sdc (flash drive) *but* i accidentally wrote mbr to sda, not sdc
[01:00] <hispeed67> not, without flash drive, puter wont boot win 7.
[01:00] <hispeed67> s/not/now
[01:00] <irrelev4nt> hispeed67, boot into W7, open an elevated cmd and execute "bootrec /Fixmbr"' "bootrec /Fixboot"
[01:00] <darkangel> ur sound system in ur computer must be out then
[01:00] <Onny> wilee-nilee, neither, it's older hardware that came with W7, before EFI was in most systems
[01:00] <hispeed67> irrelev4nt: awesome.. thnx. :)
[01:00] <wilee-nilee> hispeed67, Boot the OS with the usb and run sudo grub-install /dev/sdc ; sudo update-grub
[01:00] <grndslm> question... what is the actual package name of the app store in ubuntu??  and i'm not referring to synaptic, btw...
[01:00] <kzk> darkangel: what are you talking about?
[01:00] <darkangel> what u mean?
[01:01] <hispeed67> lol, two ways, bot prolly work,
[01:01] <hispeed67> s/bot/both
[01:01] <irrelev4nt> hispeed67: and be sure to install grub to the sdc first
[01:01] <kzk> the "sound system in my computer"
[01:01] <anonymous> ie
[01:01] <irrelev4nt> otherwise you wont be able to beet the flash drive
[01:01] <anonymous> this is pula
[01:01] <kzk> it was working fine, and it stopped working due to a WINE application using FMOD crashing
[01:01] <darkangel> did u get it workin?
[01:01] <kzk> ...no
[01:01] <kzk> i'm asking how to fix it
[01:02] <darkangel> well that "Play Sound Through" is ur Build In Audio out put if u dont have that u have a problem
[01:03] <kzk> well yeah, obviously i have a problem
[01:03] <darkangel> lol
[01:03] <darkangel> i mean ur Audio Hardware is not workin
[01:04] <kzk> it's not a problem with my speakers themselves
[01:04] <darkangel> Maybe not sure let me do a system test on it
[01:04] <darkangel> yeah prob there ur speakers could be a possible
[01:04] <kzk> nope
[01:05] <kzk> they work on any other device
[01:05] <hispeed67> irrelev4nt: bootrec /fixmbr says not recognized command
[01:05] <irrelev4nt> o.O
[01:05] <darkangel> u pluged them in the back right?
[01:05] <kzk> ...
[01:05] <kzk> yes.
[01:05] <darkangel> 3 plug's?
[01:05] <irrelev4nt> hispeed: let me check that ... used that command for sure like 2 days ago
[01:05] <OerHeks> kzk, " it stopped working due to a WINE application using FMOD crashing" ?
[01:05] <darkangel> put in green 1
[01:05] <kzk> OerHeks: yes
[01:05] <OerHeks> darkangel, learn to read
[01:06] <darkangel> sure ok?
[01:06] <irrelev4nt> hispeed67: have a look at this, please: http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/17521-how-fix-mbr-through-command-prompt.html
[01:06] <ubutom> So, I got this problem that my time is always off by about 10 minutes, although it's set to retrieve the time from the internet, any way to fix it or to set another time-server?
[01:06] <kzk> OerHeks: i'm not absolutely sure that caused it, but it was working fine up until that point
[01:06] <OerHeks> kzk have you tried to remove en /pulseaudio folder ? that could solve such issues
[01:07] <darkangel> Well Later
[01:07] <OerHeks> or .pulseaudio
[01:07] <kzk> OerHeks: you mean reinstall it?
[01:07] <OerHeks> kzk,  no, it is just a settings folder, it will be re-created after removal
[01:08] <kzk> oh
[01:08] <kzk> where would i find that?
[01:10] <OerHeks> kzk in you /home/ folder, it is hidden, use ctrl + H to see hidden files
[01:10] <kzk> OerHeks: trying that now
[01:11] <irrelev4nt_> hey all. I just used empathy with IRC plugin, but now I cant connect using xChat with my nickname
[01:11] <kzk> OerHeks: it works now, thanks so much :D
[01:11] <irrelev4nt_> any way of fixing this?
[01:11] <OerHeks> kzk if it does not work right away, logout
[01:11] <OerHeks> oh great
[01:12] <micros> how do i launch a process from rc.local as another user, as opposed to root?  i tried sudo -c username command with no luck... thanks.
[01:12] <Triamera> Where do u Donate $$$ to Ubuntu ?
[01:13] <OerHeks> Triamera see the ubuntu.com site, or contact your local community
[01:13] <Triamera> mk
[01:14] <Triamera> Is it E-Legal to Sell Ubuntu?
[01:14] <Triamera> like in CD's?
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> Triamera, no, and some will not fit ob a cd anymore
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> on*
[01:15] <Triamera> Netinstall
[01:15] <kostkon> actually it is
[01:15] <Triamera> Minical ubuntu CD
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> only if modified and no credit to canonical
[01:16] <GiiNG3RASSASSiN> Hi everyone, I'm currently having issues installing Ubuntu 13.10 on my PC and hoping somebody can help.
[01:16] <Triamera> Its not Modded
[01:16] <Triamera> i have 13.10 whats up
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> Triamera, This is the wrong place to ask anyway ask an attorney.
[01:16] <kostkon> Triamera, you can
[01:16] <Triamera> ok
[01:17] <kostkon> Triamera, supposedly the customer will be paying for the cost of the medium + shipping and maybe support?
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> Triamera, You would be more respected selling support I would think.
[01:17] <GiiNG3RASSASSiN> I put the Disc in and try to install it and it loads on the main  screen before logging into my current OS and tit comes up with an error message.
[01:17] <Triamera> yes i have ton of exp with Ubuntu and ill only do like 10$ each CD so its not really that much
[01:17] <kostkon> Triamera, you can sell just don't try to rip people off
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum | GiiNG3RASSASSiN
[01:18] <Triamera> i dont rip people off that for sure i cant stand it
[01:18] <AnAlien> hello
[01:18] <AnAlien> can someone help me with get mupen64 to work
[01:19] <Triamera> umm GiiNG u prob might not of Installed on Disk correctly buddy
[01:19] <Triamera> might be missing something
[01:19] <Hundred> what is a good offline dictionary for ubuntu?
[01:20] <Hundred> i;m looking for something like WordWeb for Windows
[01:20] <GiiNG3RASSASSiN> Triamera I believe I have its that my PC doesn't like it, I originally thought the same thing so I tried it on other PC's in the house and worked no problem
[01:20] <AnAlien> do i have to install via a terminal for mupen64 or what?
[01:21] <Triamera> oh ... might be
[01:21] <OerHeks> Triamera, if you would sell it, print the manual too, 150 pages
[01:21] <OerHeks> http://ubuntu-manual.org/downloads
[01:21] <Triamera> 0.0 holy crapper Oer
[01:22] <wilee-nilee> GiiNG3RASSASSiN, Is this computer a dualboot, and if so with what and it's release?
[01:22] <GiiNG3RASSASSiN> I brought the PC back in 2008 so it might be the age of the PC
[01:24] <wilee-nilee> GiiNG3RASSASSiN, make sure it is up to running ubuntu hardware wise and try the net install, might be a pae kernel problem
[01:24] <wilee-nilee> or try xubuntu or lubuntu
[01:24] <Triamera> OerHeks: its 149 Pages not 150 rofl
[01:25] <Triamera> just picking on ya sorry
[01:25] <GiiNG3RASSASSiN> I've upgraded most of the parts in it over the last couple years apart from the processor.
[01:26] <bl4ckdu5t> I downloaded vim-gtk and I tried to access it by running "vim-gtk" on terminal but it fails
[01:26] <AnAlien> does anyone know how what ishould do?
[01:26] <bl4ckdu5t> where can this file be
[01:26] <Dr_Willis> bl4ckdu5t:  i thought it was called gvim
[01:26] <bl4ckdu5t> It was a apt-get install I did
[01:27] <Dr_Willis> !find vim-gtk
[01:27] <Dr_Willis> !find gvim
[01:27] <kostkon> Triamera, plus the page that was intentionally left blank ;)
[01:27] <jaami> what download manager is good to install?
[01:27] <Dr_Willis> jaami:  i rarely find one is needed these days
[01:27] <Triamera> lol ok ;)
[01:28] <jaami> what i should use then? im newb
[01:28] <bl4ckdu5t> Dr_willis: Thanks vim-gtk is just the package, gvim is the tool I needed
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> bl4ckdu5t:  :)
[01:28] <bl4ckdu5t> but in cases of other software with packages like this, how do I find them
[01:28] <jaami> i have to download big file so i need download manager for it
[01:28] <virux> any ubuntu guru around
[01:28] <AnAlien> does anyone know how what i should do? http://i.imgur.com/p4HxVZl.png
[01:29] <bl4ckdu5t> If I have the package installed and I can't get the exact tool to use out of it
[01:29] <AnAlien> one sec restarting
[01:29] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/search?tab=relevance&q=download%20manager   jaami
[01:29] <Dr_Willis> jaami:  i tend to just use wget
[01:29] <jaami> ok thanks
[01:30] <Dr_Willis> bl4ckdu5t:  the package manager tools have comkmands/tools to list whats in the packages
[01:30] <Nautilus> are "+", "@" and "." allowed in a login username? eg: a tagged email address
[01:31] <GiiNG3RASSASSiN> I think I may have sorted it out, settled on 12.04 instead. Is there much difference between the two?
[01:31] <virux> Good evening everybody.  I downloaded windows 8.1 upgraded everything went fine until the reboot.  Now i am getting an Error: Unknown System Error and then i get the Grub Rescue
[01:32] <Triamera> what 2 Ubuntu 13.10 and ubuntu 12.04?
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub | virux
[01:32] <GiiNG3RASSASSiN> Triamera - Yeah
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> Triamera:  clarify your question
[01:32] <Triamera> Ubuntu 13.10 is alot faster then 12.04.3 thats where i came from
[01:32] <virux> can i give u a copy of my paste bin
[01:33] <Triamera> plus the start button freezing ur whole computer is gone
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> virux:  if grub is broken. use that boot-repair tool mentooned at the above url's to fix it
[01:34] <virux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6267407/
[01:34] <virux> i did it
[01:34] <virux> and it is not working
[01:34] <GiiNG3RASSASSiN> Right, I'll see how I get on with it. Tried Mint earlier and didn't quite like it so I'm trying Ubuntu and if I like this a hell of a lot better than I like Windows 7 I'll be swapping it haha
[01:34] <Hundred> does 13.10 have faster boot?
[01:35] <OerHeks> virux, the 8.1 update is deleted by microsoft, as users experience lots of issues.
[01:35] <gatsby_86753099> network doesn't always connect after suspend in 13.10
[01:35] <AnAlien> im back, here a screen shot http://i.imgur.com/CbJZXUl.png
[01:35] <Triamera> tad slower then Ubuntu 12.04.3 like 1 sec slower but every thing else is faster
[01:35] <gatsby_86753099> anyone else?
[01:35] <virux> lol now i know
[01:35] <virux> after mess up my partition
[01:35] <Triamera> Hundred: tad slower then Ubuntu 12.04.3 like 1 sec slower but every thing else is faster
[01:35] <johnjohn101> is there anyway to get the sound indicator to act like before (ie mute icon) instead of the mute being checked in the menu?
[01:35] <virux> i did not know that my hd had residual of long time ubuntu installation
[01:37] <AnAlien> is anyone able to help me?
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> Hundred:  ubntu has allways booted rather quickly for me on my machines.
[01:38] <Triamera> Extreamly Quick
[01:38] <Hundred> virux there is another software that can fix that, i forget what it is called tho
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> a few releases back they focused on boot times and made some big improvements.. going to be hard to  get it a lot faster  :)
[01:39] <virux> my pc was booting direct to windows 8 so i dont know how the grub thing came up
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> ny Ubuntu pc's boot faster then my android tablets or phone. ;)
[01:39] <Triamera> Analien: whats the problem buddy i see the image but am i not seeing?
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> virux:  you may be booting a differnt hard drive some how
[01:39] <virux> no it is the same hd
[01:40] <Hundred> virux i think the software is called TestDisk
[01:40] <virux> i will check
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> virux:  so you do or do NOT have a ubuntu install on the pc>
[01:40] <Hundred> i'm a noob and was able to repair a partition and grub
[01:41] <pfifo> Ubuntu needs to move away from all this purple, its getting kinda old
[01:41] <virux> nope i am sure that hd had ubuntu installed like 2 years ago
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> pfifo:  ages ago it was all 'browns'
[01:41] <virux> but when i installed windows 8 i format the partition
[01:41] <pfifo> Dr_Willis: I liked the orange
[01:41] <virux> looks like the boot sector was in a separate sector
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> virux:  if you dont have any ubuntu installed on it.. then go to the windows channel and ask them how to reinstall the windows bootloader.
[01:42] <virux> dr boot why is coming up with a grub error
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> pfifo:  we need more Lilac and Puce. ;)
[01:42] <LiENUS> so i update to ubuntu 13.10 from 13.04 and my clock in the menu bar disappeared, so i pulled up system settings -> time and date then clicked the clock option and everything is greyed out...
[01:42] <OerHeks> virux, so there is no ubuntu on your system, sda has a wrecked mbr.
[01:42] <pfifo> Dr_Willis: I want to see a white ubuntu
[01:42] <LiENUS> Dr_Willis, leave the puce
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> virux:  because you dont hav 3 grub properly setup.. if you dont need grub. then reinstall the windows bootloader and remove grub.
[01:42] <Hundred> virux i don't think format really deletes a partition, it just deletes the labels for all the files and stuff
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> formating a drive will not erase the bootloader.
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> unless of cyoruse you zero out the drive with dd, and repartion. ;)
[01:43] <virux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6267407/
[01:43] <Triamera> Has any 1 here Installed Ubuntu through the Internet?
[01:44] <AnAlien> i figured it out thanks
[01:45] <Triamera> Oh ya ur tryin to Install Ubuntu with a FAT32 USB right?
[01:46] <Triamera> FAT 32 Format
[01:46] <Triamera> not good
[01:46] <mikolaj> hi there
[01:46] <LiENUS> Dr_Willis, i missed the beginning of hte convo hes talking about formatting a drive from windows?
[01:46] <LiENUS> and bootloader went amiss?
[01:46] <Triamera> Try FAT or EXT4 format FAT32 all ways gave me a alot of errors on installing
[01:46] <mikolaj> how do I set my graphics card to low power profile?
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> LiENUS:  im not clear his original issue either. grub just suddendly appeared it sounds like
[01:48] <LiENUS> suddenly appeared... nm i dont wanna get involved lol
[01:48] <OerHeks> virux, Disk /dev/sda: 8 MB ??
[01:48] <virux> appear after the win 8.1 upgrade
[01:48] <Triamera> USB 32 GB
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> sounds like windows messed with the bootloaders.
[01:48] <OerHeks> virux that would be an hardware issue, contact your reseller.
[01:48] <virux> lol
[01:48] <OerHeks> .. lol ?
[01:48] <virux> not a hardware issue
[01:49] <LiENUS> so did ubuntu 13.10 remove the clock from system menu or is my ubuntu install just stuffed?
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> if the disk /dev/sda is showing up as 8mb.. that would seem very weird to me
[01:49] <OerHeks> virux anyhow not an ubuntu issue either.
[01:49] <virux> well you say is not an ubuntu issue
[01:49] <Pinkamena_D> so I have started using a docking station with my thinkpad and now about 50% of the time when resuming from suspend it will not start. Black screen on the docking station, if I open the laptop lid the screen just "flashes" every two seconds or so.
[01:49] <OerHeks> LiENUS, clock is there.
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> virux:  do you Have ubuntu installed?
[01:50] <virux> but windows does not include grub right ?
[01:50] <virux> it was installed on this hd long time ago
[01:50] <virux> then it was remove
[01:50] <LiENUS> OerHeks, it disappeared when i upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10...
[01:50] <pfifo> LiENUS: bug 1237910
[01:50] <virux> computer was booting win 8
[01:50] <virux> until 1 hour ago
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> virux:  so once again... use windows tools to fix the bootloader since you dont want grub.
[01:50] <LiENUS> pfifo, thanks
[01:50] <pfifo> LiENUS: darn, wrong number XD but anyway, its a bug
[01:51] <virux> k i will do my research
[01:51] <virux> bye
[01:51] <LiENUS> pfifo, is there a fix in the bugzilla?
[01:51] <LiENUS> or whatever they use
[01:51] <pfifo> bug 1239710
[01:51] <pfifo> there we go
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> just 10% ;) wonder how they measured that
[01:52] <LiENUS> wait so the fix is reboot?
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> you got a 90% chance of it showing up?
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> log out.back in perhaps is faster
[01:52] <pfifo> LiENUS: i think the workaround is reboot, and a fix is on the way
[01:53] <LiENUS> pfifo, i dont see my exact symptoms described there... the clock stuff is greyed out in settings too...
[01:53] <LiENUS> i see nothing about that in there
[01:53] <LiENUS> but other than that it looks same
[01:54] <pfifo> LiENUS: not sure, havent looked into it myself, im loaded down with mir testing
[01:54] <LiENUS> pfifo, should i contribute that information or would you think its irrelevant?
[01:55] <pfifo> LiENUS: yes, the worst that could happen is that its not useful to anyone
[01:56] <LiENUS> alright off to reboot and confirm i have the same problem
[01:58] <xtriz> what is the default umask ?
[01:58] <xtriz> i am having 0002 shouldn't it be 0022 ?
[01:58] <n0sq_> i just upgraded to 13.10 and now the wifi for virtualbox doesn't work - i don't see a new version of oracle virtualbox available for 13.10 - how do i fix this?
[01:58] <LiENUS> mine seems to be a distinct bug
[01:58] <LiENUS> clock shows up before logging in, i log in it disappears
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> !find rtorrent
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> !info rtorrent
[02:01] <pfifo> LiENUS: so I guess your trying to say, you clock dosent have the time for you?
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. somehow the sources list gui tool removed all my sources except one.
[02:02] <LiENUS> pfifo, i almost fell for your pun there lol
[02:02] <OerHeks> Dr_Willis, let me try that tool too!
[02:02] <n0sq_> !ghost
[02:02] <LiENUS> lemme try my guest account
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> unless i some how managed to Unclick ALL of my sources..
[02:02] <uvin> Dr_Willis, you are on a phone？
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> uvin: im hot-spotted at the moment
[02:03] <phantomcircuit> the nginx-1.1.19-1ubuntu0.2 package appears to have been built w/o the gzip module
[02:03] <uvin> heh
[02:03] <phantomcircuit> i tried installing nginx-extras and nginx-full but neither of them have it either
[02:03] <pfifo> uvin: I do hotspot too, got rid of home internet
[02:03] <phantomcircuit> what gives
[02:04] <uvin> pfifo, how you know the account pass
[02:04] <LiENUS> guest account has a clock just not my account :/
[02:04] <pfifo> uvin: what?
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> LiENUS:  try making a new user. see if it works for them.
[02:05] <LiENUS> Dr_Willis, meh launching it manually works too lol
[02:05] <uvin> pfifo,  these hotspot are free and open?
[02:05] <LiENUS> it might be the same bug though i just dont feel like rebooting multiple times to test
[02:06] <LiENUS> once this 3 year old goes to sleep i'll do more testing
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> uvin:  err no.. the cell phone provider  costs.
[02:06] <LiENUS> pfifo, hotspot to get rid of home internet what?
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> LiENUS:  wonder if somthings taking longer to load on the desktop and causing some sort of race condition
[02:06] <OerHeks> LiENUS, maybe this answer is any help >> http://askubuntu.com/a/357280
[02:06] <uvin> Dr_Willis, lol you hacked it
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> uvin:  err.. No i did not.
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> its a feature of the phone.
[02:07] <LiENUS> Dr_Willis, race condition sounds plausible... i have a ssd in a really old system so maybe something is cpu bound while something else is io bound...
[02:07] <uvin> Dr_Willis, i doubt you can do anything with a 50kb/s connection
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> uvin:  Hmm?  i am on my phone most of the time and rarely have issues with speed.
[02:08] <LiENUS> pfifo, where in gods green name do you live that using a hotspot is feasable for ditching home interneT?
[02:08] <sam113101> how do I know I created a symlink and not a hard link?
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  ls -l    will show the link names info
[02:08] <LiENUS> speeds are great sure but 5gb a month of transfer is ftl
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> sam113101: A Hard link is identical to the actual file name. ;)
[02:08] <sam113101> Dr_Willis: ?
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  ls -l thelinkname
[02:08] <pfifo> LiENUS: daytona beach
[02:09] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  it will show what the link is pointing to
[02:09] <sam113101> lrwxrwxrwx 1 sam sam 20 Oct 19 22:03 /home/sam/Videos/Movies -> /shared_media/Movies/
[02:09] <pfifo> uvin: the hotspot is on my phone, part of my data plan
[02:09] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  rather obvious its a soft link. ;)
[02:09] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  im not sure you can make hardlinks to directories.. cant say ive ever tried :)
[02:10] <pfifo> LiENUS: my server has a 2000gb/mop data limit :)
[02:10] <sam113101> what's a soft link?
[02:10] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:   ln -s foo bar    -> makes a soft link
[02:10] <sam113101> soft link = symlink?
[02:10] <Dr_Willis> ln foo bar --> a hard link
[02:10] <LiENUS> pfifo, your server as in you just remote any heavy transfer?
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> symlink = symbolic link.    a more generic term
[02:11] <pfifo> LiENUS: yeah, download it from mcdonalds or something at a later time, but im not much into piracy so I dont use much data anyway
[02:11] <ur0pl> I want to make it so I port forward to my public ip:8001, then it forwards to one of my lan's boxes:80 port, what is the source port, 8001 or 80?
[02:12] <pfifo> ur0pl: 80
[02:12] <pfifo> ur0pl: sorry, misread that 8001
[02:12] <LiENUS> pfifo, meh i used hotspot on my phone for like a week and pulled 4gb :/
[02:13] <nikitis> i still have unlimited data on verizon
[02:13] <LiENUS> i also dont have cable so i do a ton of netflix
[02:14] <elb0w> Anyone get touchegg working on 13.04?
[02:14] <Smedles> hi all... anyone else having issues with no ethernet after resume on 13.10?
[02:15] <Smedles> ifconfig eth0 up; dhclient eth0 fixes it - but it's a pita
[02:15] <axisys> after fresh install I get no keyboard/mouse working.. when using the same image as live cd there was no issue. what gives?
[02:15] <pfifo> LiENUS: ohh well, netflix and youtube and such will kill bandwidth, but I split my time between programming and playstation 3, and have yet to go over 3.5gb out of 10
[02:15] <axisys> 13.10 64bit desktop
[02:15] <Cache_Money> How come when I hit the Backspace button Chrome won't go back to the previous page?
[02:16] <OerHeks> Barbara_Violet_N, , what is the use of your anoying multiple name changing?
[02:17] <pfifo> OerHeks: its a bot i think
[02:17] <LiENUS> pfifo, i do a lot of programming too (mostly while watching tv in the background) but i do most of mine remotely
[02:18] <LiENUS> dunno how big a slice that takes up though
[02:18] <LiENUS> my git repositories aren't that big
[02:19] <pfifo> LiENUS: its very small unless your uploading lots of graphics or other binary files
[02:19] <xtriz> how can i change the umask to 0022 ?
[02:20] <pfifo> LiENUS: the linux kernel is only 50mb or so, to give you something to compare to
[02:20] <xtriz> hi pfifo you are still  here :) looks like you are a linux geek.
[02:21] <pfifo> xtriz: ive been in and out all day, im installing 13.10 andtaking mir for a test drive
[02:21] <OerHeks> xtriz umask 002 = user and umask 0022 is root iirc
[02:21] <Cache_Money> Does nobody like to use the backspace button when browsing on Chrome?
[02:22] <Noah0504> Cache_Money: What do you mean? To actually go back?
[02:23] <SchrodingersScat> Cache_Money: I just use the alt-leftArrow
[02:23] <xtriz> pfifo, heard lot about mir, need to test it too.
[02:23] <axisys> cannot type anything in browser/gedit/gnome-terminal
[02:23] <axisys> what am I missing?
[02:24] <axisys> alt+ctrl+fn works
[02:24] <Cache_Money> SchrodingersScat: thanks!  Is there any way to change it to the Backspace button instead?
[02:24] <xtriz> OerHeks, i really have no idea about what the real values must be.
[02:24] <xtriz> i just know that the defualt umask is 0022
[02:24] <axisys> so I can type in virtual terminals .. but not on f7 / gnome manager / main window
[02:25] <OerHeks> xtriz, so why are you trying to change the umask?
[02:26] <xtriz> OerHeks, i was just learning more about file permissions and symbolic links, so was checking out my system's file permissions and how they are set.
[02:28] <nikitis> .
[02:29] <mrrcp> .
[02:29] <mrrcp> ./.\.
[02:30] <nikitis> testing irssi theme
[02:30] <nikitis> can't figure out how to change color of nicks
[02:33] <nikitis> helps if people talk
[02:33] <kostkon> nikitis, blah blah
[02:33] <VeloxAmbitum> blah blah
[02:34] <nikitis> thanks
[02:34] <axisys> Alt+F2 xterm and I can type.. but not in gnome-terminal or in firefox browser.. any suggestion?
[02:34] <nikitis> koston your mentioning of my name hilighted yellow and may have solved my problem, thanks
[02:34] <ssj5goku> i am new to ubuntu ...can anyone tell me what all things can be done with ubuntu....when i search this on google, it only shows what and what not to install after loading ubuntu....
[02:35] <SchrodingersScat> ssj5goku: the limits are limitless
[02:35] <ssj5goku> SchrodingersScat: do you watch "the big bang theory"??
[02:36] <SchrodingersScat> ssj5goku: no, not fond of it.
[02:36] <ssj5goku> SchrodingersScat: ooh i just thought you got that name by seeing it...
[02:36] <just> :D
[02:37] <sam113101> shouldn't unity follow my symlinks?
[02:37] <ssj5goku> SchrodingersScat: anyways can you pls tell me some of the things...cause it only feels like i got a new smartphone...
[02:38] <kostkon> nikitis, you are welcome
[02:38] <SchrodingersScat> ssj5goku: idk, what do you normally do with your computer?
[02:40] <ssj5goku> SchrodingersScat: play games , write some codes,download plenty of softwares and discover new ways for things to be done easily........i guess
[02:40] <jaami> where wget saves downloaded file?
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> ssj5goku, Just info but this is specific support #ubuntu-offtopic is chat.
[02:40] <kostkon> ssj5goku, ubuntun
[02:40] <kostkon> oops
[02:41] <VeloxAmbitum> current dir, jaami
[02:41] <SchrodingersScat> ssj5goku: can try urbanTerror, steam, etc. for games.  you should be able to code just about anything you like.  bash is great for doing certain things on your local system
[02:41] <jaami> thanks VeloxAmbitum
[02:41] <kostkon> ssj5goku, ubuntu software centre and/or steam for games, ubuntu software centre for apps
[02:41] <ssj5goku> SchrodingersScat: thanks... i ll definitely try them today...
[02:42] <sam113101> shouldn't unity follow my symlinks?
[02:43] <kostkon> ssj5goku, ubuntu blogs like omgubuntu.co.uk, iloveubuntu.net and webupd8.org for ideas
[02:43] <ssj5goku> kostkon: thanks ...
[02:44] <Onny_> what's different between the drivers nvidia-310, nvidia-310-updates, and nvidia-313-updates?
[02:46] <sam113101> guys ;(
[02:46] <wilee-nilee> Onny, Context? seems self explanatory.
[02:50] <herzeleid> hola hay alguien ahi'
[02:52] <jaami> rebooting now to see if usb start debian setup
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> !manual | ssj5goku
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> !games
[02:57] <mikolaj> how do i change my graphics card power profile?
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> mikolaj:  whats the video card?
[03:01] <mikolaj> Dr_Willis: radeon 6970
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  symlinks are part of the filesystem, the apps really shouldent tell the differance
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> mikolaj:  ati has some sort of control-center tool as part of the fglrx drivers
[03:01] <sam113101> Dr_Willis: only unity does
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  clarify what you mean
[03:02] <sam113101> Dr_Willis: the "lens" doesn't show the videos/images/musics that are inside symlinks
[03:02] <sam113101> s/doesn't/don't/
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  cant say ive noticed  - im on xubuntu so cant verify the issue
[03:03] <Onny> where should I put a command I want to be run by each shell for each user on load?
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> Onny:  a command to do what exctly
[03:04] <jmgk> hallo
[03:04] <Onny> Dr_Willis, fortune | cowsaw of course!
[03:04] <sam113101> that's why I'm wondering if they are real symlinks
[03:04] <Onny> s/cowsaw/cowsay
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> Onny:  i got that in my .bashrc
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> and you want to use options for fortune to not use very long fortunes or the cow looks wrong
[03:05] <Onny> yeah but if I wanted that and other stuff to set up a computer for someone else to be run by each shell on open
[03:05] <Onny> e.g. setup default aliases for each user
[03:05] <Sir_Leto> wow there are a lot of users
[03:05] <Sir_Leto> are there normally that many?
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> Onny:  'on open' is a little vague
[03:06] <jmgk> yes Sir_Leto
[03:06] <jmgk> :)
[03:06] <jmgk> welcome abroad
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> Onny:  for bash theres system wide /etc/bash.bashrc and other files
[03:06] <cbilljones> just upgraded and everything seems a little snappier, nice
[03:06] <jmgk> ah the new Ubuntu
[03:06] <jmgk> :
[03:06] <jmgk> :D
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> Onny:  each user has their own  ~/.profile and ~/.bashrc
[03:06] <Sir_Leto> I guess I always switch windows before I see how many users are here
[03:06] <Onny> I'm familiar with the user files but wasn't sure of the system-wide
[03:06] <Sir_Leto> Umm, how do I reinstall grub after updating to Windows 8.1?
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> 1600 is slightly above average id say
[03:07] <Onny> meant, loads these settings when user opens a shell
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub | Sir_Leto
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> Sir_Leto, I would use the bootrepair app
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> Onny:  .bashrc or .profile
[03:07] <Malimbar> has anyone had trouble upgrading from  13.04 to 13.10? The software updater keeps crashing without warning.
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> Onny:  they got a setup in them to read a bash.alias file i recall.
[03:08] <Malimbar> right after I give it a password I see nothing more
[03:08] <cbilljones> malimbar is ubuntu-desktop installed
[03:08] <wilee-nilee> Sir_Leto, I have 8.1 and ubuntu but msdos installs so it was a straight load the mbr, uefi is different.
[03:08] <Sir_Leto> wilee-nilee  much better option, I wasn't sure if what I was linked would work with my UEFI
[03:08] <Onny> I got it now, thanks
[03:09]  * Sir_Leto needs linux to fix this phone he bricked
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> Sir_Leto:  a live usb/cd may be ab le to do it all then
[03:09] <Malimbar> cbilljones, yeah, I never uninstalled it, and doing it again says ubuntu-desktop is at it's newest version
[03:10] <wilee-nilee> Billie_Irma_Luci, fix your setup
[03:11] <Hw4ng3r> exit
[03:11] <cbilljones> malimbar hmm that was just my 1st guess of things to check, hard to tell without specific error
[03:11] <Malimbar> cbilljones, is there a way to try to catch an error? from the command line or something?
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> Malimbar:  run th ecommands from a terminal. look for errors
[03:12] <Billie_Irma_Luci> Billie IS DA BEST! All bow down to Billie! Billie rulez da land!
[03:12] <Billie_Irma_Luci> Everybody look at Billie and tell him how great he is! Billie RULES! Nobody has the power, might and wisdom of the Billie.
[03:12] <Billie_Irma_Luci> No one is better than the Billie! Billie is the way to go! Billie RULES! Billie AINT OUTDONE BY NO ONE!
[03:12] <Malimbar> Dr_Willis, the command is pressing a button on software updater
[03:12] <Billie_Irma_Luci> Can I get a hell yeah for Billie? Billie is just simply awesome and completely amazing!
[03:12] <FloodBot1> Billie_Irma_Luci: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:12] <Billie_Irma_Luci> The crowd chants: BBBBiiiilllllllliiiieeee!! BBBBiiiilllllllliiiieeee!! BBBBiiiilllllllliiiieeee!!!
[03:12] <Billie_Irma_Luci> Billie IS DA BEST! All bow down to Billie! Billie rulez da land!
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> Malimbar:  the apt tools can update/upgrade packages
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> Malimbar:  and most all the gui stuff are just front ends to the cli back end tools
[03:13] <Malimbar> Dr_Willis, but how would I hunt down what the command actually is?
[03:13] <cbilljones> malimbar run "update-manager" from term; see if you get error that way
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> Malimbar:  'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'  for starters
[03:14] <totle> im trying to fwrite to a file, but i get the "file too big" error when the file gets larger then 2.1gb. the file system is an ext4. is there any reason why this is happening? im on ubuntu 13.04.
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> Malimbar:  and do-release-upgrade   i think updates to the next release if yoy want
[03:15] <Malimbar> cbilljones, Dr_Willis, doing cbilljones version first
[03:15] <Adran> Is there a daemon in Ubuntu that can print out random factoids on a specific port?
[03:15] <cbilljones> malimbar just do what dr_willis suggest
[03:17] <Malimbar> well, via command line it seems to be working, thanks guys!
[03:19] <wiseman> just checking in to show off irssi to friends
[03:20] <PatrickDickey> Sooo is everyone updated to 13.10 yet?
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> been there for 6 months
[03:21] <Malimbar> PatrickDickey, wouldnt that be better for #ubuntu-offtopic ? To answer you though I'm trying to update now :)
[03:21] <PatrickDickey> You stay on the bleeding edge, right wilee-nilee?
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> been using it for months here also.
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> been rather problem free for me
[03:22] <VeloxAmbitum> xD with my ISP, just managed to get 13.04
[03:22] <wilee-nilee> PatrickDickey, I have multiple OS always I load the development right away.
[03:22] <PatrickDickey> I see. I was curious how the update is going for people. If there are any issues so far.
[03:23] <Tex_Nick> using 13.04 ... for a few days now "Software Updater" has been notifying me of 13.10 upgrade ... about 6 hrs. ago i decided to do it ... i clicked on Upgrade ... it presents me with a "Welcome to Saucy dialog window" ... I click on "Upgrade Button" ... it presents a dialog that says "Downloading the release upgrade tool" ... the dialog window closes & nothing happens ... what do i need to next ?
[03:24] <PatrickDickey> Tex_Nick: by chance is there a box that wants you to authenticate?
[03:24] <Tex_Nick> PatrickDickey:  yes sir & I do so
[03:25] <Onny> what's a good GPU benchmark for Linux?
[03:25] <Tex_Nick> PatrickDickey:  sorry i didn't mention that
[03:25] <wilee-nilee> Tex_Nick, check your sources, turn off 3rd parties and make sure the server is answering.
[03:26] <wilee-nilee> and be updated
[03:27] <chenyuwei> I have update ubuntu 13.10
[03:27] <chenyuwei> everything is ok
[03:27] <Tex_Nick> wilee-nilee: ok hey that's a good start ... will do that in a bit ... thanks for the input ;-)
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> chenyuwei: hows 13.10 speed and stability?
[03:32] <Ari-Yang> how come when I run xrandr --auto a window called 'Desktop' is launched? (it's a nemo window)
[03:33] <Ari-Yang> it doesn't do it all the time though... but I prefer it no to do it at all
[03:33] <lotuspsychje> Ari-Yang: with what purpose are you using it?
[03:34] <Ari-Yang> lotuspsychje: use it when I hook up my laptop to tv with hdmi
[03:34] <Ari-Yang> I run xrandr --auto to get a picture on the TV
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> Ari-Yang: and does it show on tv?
[03:35] <mikolaj> why am I not allowed to do things like execute python scripts on my system
[03:35] <Ari-Yang> lotuspsychje: uhhh just fine. but do you know what I'm asking? How to prevent a fake Nemo Desktop window from popping up
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> mikolaj: you have an error?
[03:35] <mikolaj> permission denied
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> Ari-Yang: well not sure mate, never used it myself..maybe its needed to display to tv?
[03:36] <Ari-Yang> btw I'm not using cinnamon, lotuspsychje
[03:36] <Ari-Yang> ....no
[03:36] <Ari-Yang> .__.
[03:36] <Ari-Yang> that doesn't make any sense whatsoever
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> mikolaj: did you sudo your script?
[03:36] <Ari-Yang> oh and where do I go to tell an op a spam bot pmed me?
[03:36] <Ari-Yang> IRCops
[03:36] <Darkangel> Hey Just wondering whats the thing on System Monitor then on ur "Processes" it has LOAD on top whats that for what does it mean?
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> Ari-Yang: i just reported it
[03:36] <mikolaj> lotuspsychje, I tried chmod +x but nothing happened
[03:37] <Ari-Yang> lotuspsychje: Wanda_Nelda_Velm right?
[03:37] <Ari-Yang> that's the nick that pmed me...
[03:37] <Nautilus> Is something down?
[03:37] <Nautilus> Err http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com precise Release.gpg
[03:37] <Nautilus>   Temporary failure resolving 'ca.archive.ubuntu.com'
[03:37] <Heavensrevenge> hi
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> Ari-Yang: yes he changed ip's and continue spam
[03:37] <m000gle> I've just installed Ubuntu 13.10, but the GRUB2 boot loader fails to see my dual boot Windows 8 installation ... Ubuntu is installed to /dev/sda6, Windows 8 installed on /dev/sda1
[03:37] <Heavensrevenge> can anyone point me to how the control flow works in mir?
[03:37] <m000gle> Running "sudo update-grub" only detects the Ubuntu Linux image.
[03:38] <m000gle> Could someone help me re-instal the GRUB, so it will also detect my Windows installation, and provide the selection screen at boot?
[03:38] <Random832> my wifi connection is unreliable ever since upgrading to 13.10
[03:38] <Random832> can someone help me
[03:38] <wilee-nilee> m000gle, This from the install?
[03:38] <Heavensrevenge> the spec page only has 1 way diagrams but doesnt show how an event flows from input->output
[03:39] <m000gle> wilee-nilee: This was from a fresh install of Saucy, onto the same partition which previously had my Raring install
[03:39] <wilee-nilee> m000gle, This windows 8?
[03:39] <m000gle> Yes, but NOT uefi, and NOT an OEM version of Windows 8
[03:40] <wilee-nilee> m000gle, Hmm, can you run the bootrepair app just the bootinfo summary and post the url to that script?
[03:41] <wilee-nilee> m000gle, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[03:42] <Heavensrevenge> does anyone at all know anything on how mir works???
[03:43] <mikolaj> I don't understand, why is not chmod working?
[03:44] <Malimbar> Heavensrevenge, I odn't, but I might be able to find what you're looking for online. Also, you could laways try #mir
[03:44] <Nautilus> apt-get is telling me this: Temporary failure resolving 'ca.archive.ubuntu.com'   ... is something down?
[03:44] <Jiajie_> why did my terminal's default directory  become ~/doc.
[03:44] <Heavensrevenge> oh i didnt know there was a #mir room, ill check :)
[03:46] <Malimbar> Heavensrevenge, looks pretty light, might take a while for a response
[03:46] <PatrickDickey> mikolaj: What exactly are you trying to chmod? And does your user/group own the file?
[03:46] <Heavensrevenge> yea, well i know how waylands internals work
[03:46] <mikolaj> PatrickDickey, I'm trying to make a python script executable
[03:46] <Heavensrevenge> but ive been trying to read the mir code and i cant grok how the darn events flow through the system when mir is in charge
[03:47] <makineitor> hello
[03:47] <Heavensrevenge> once i see how the actual flow works ill be able to decide and judge whats going on
[03:47] <PatrickDickey> mikolaj: and you tried chmod +x name.py or just chmod +x name?
[03:47] <mikolaj> PatrickDickey, the first one
[03:48] <PatrickDickey> mikolaj: what does ls -l name.py show you?
[03:48] <PatrickDickey> where name.py is the script
[03:48] <mikolaj> PatrickDickey, it shows that nothing changed
[03:48] <Jiajie_> how to change the terminal's default dir?please!
[03:49] <PatrickDickey> mikolaj: Try it with sudo, just in case. If you own the file, it shouldn't need that.
[03:49] <mikolaj> PatrickDickey, I tried it but it did not work either
[03:49] <mikolaj> PatrickDickey, I can run it with python script.py
[03:49] <Nautilus> dang, looks like the DNS on my new VPS isn't working ... what would cause:
[03:50] <Nautilus> ping google.com
[03:50] <Nautilus> ping: unknown host google.com
[03:50] <mikolaj> PatrickDickey, but I want to be able to use ./script.py
[03:50] <PatrickDickey> mikolaj how exactly are you trying to run it otherwise?
[03:50] <soy_el_pulpo> Jiajie_: change or create a bashrc file I guess...
[03:51] <mikolaj> PatrickDickey, but when I do that, it says permission denied
[03:51] <Jiajie_> soy_el_pulpo: change the /etc/bashrc file?but i hadn't seen such a entry.
[03:52] <PatrickDickey> mikolaj:  try sudo chown youruser:youruser script.py. Or does the script do anything that requires sudo permissions by chance?
[03:52] <soy_el_pulpo> create your own inside your user home folder
[03:52] <soy_el_pulpo> it is: ".bashrc"
[03:52] <soy_el_pulpo> there you can customize your shell experience
[03:52] <PatrickDickey> Jiajie_: you have to show hidden files, or use ls -a to see it.
[03:53] <soy_el_pulpo> just for you
[03:53] <mikolaj> PatrickDickey, I don't think so, the normal operations with chmod all worked fine under xubuntu
[03:53] <Jiajie_> PatrickDickey: ok
[03:53] <Jiajie_> soy_el_pulpo: let me try
[03:54] <wylde> mikolaj, just throwing this out the but, does your script have the shebang?  #!/usr/bin/python at the beginning of the script.
[03:54] <m000gle> wilee-nilee: Following the automated repair, the GRUB screen now appears at boot, but Ubuntu is the only OS listed.  Windows is not there.
[03:54] <wylde> there*
[03:54] <m000gle> wilee-nilee: I'm just in the process of generating the bootinfo
[03:54] <mikolaj> wylde, yep it does
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> m000gle, cool post that link when it shows.
[03:55] <PatrickDickey> mikolaj: Does the script do anything that requires sudo permissions?
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> m000gle, Was grub missing before?
[03:56] <mikolaj> PatrickDickey, no
[03:57] <mikolaj> I think I found the problem
[03:57] <m000gle> wilee-nilee: The GRUB screen was missing since installing Saucy/13.10 in the past day.  Before that, all the way back to Maverick/10.10, the GRUB screen has show fine, and coexisted perfectly with Windows7/8
[03:57] <PatrickDickey> mikolaj: Do you have any other python scripts in that directory? And are they all executable?
[03:57] <m000gle> wilee-nilee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6268026/
[03:57] <mikolaj> the script was located on a usb drive
[03:57] <mikolaj> when I moved it to a folder on my hd I was able to change the permissions
[03:58] <mikolaj> I don't understand the difference, but that solved the problem
[03:58] <TiZ> Hi. I upgraded to Xubuntu 13.10, and GTK 3 no longer respects xfconf's xsettings/Gtk/ColorScheme property. What can I do about this?
[03:58] <Matthew_Moore> Question. i am trying to remaster my copy of Ubuntu to share it with some friends. Remastersys  is not giving my the quality product that i want.  what software is best to remaster a copy of Ubuntu??
[03:59] <PatrickDickey> mikolaj: If I had to venture a guess, I'd say that either the USB drive is mounted read-only, or since it's mounted in /media or /mnt, you didn't have the permissions to make changes.
[03:59] <emperorhorde> hello ubuntu comunity ...
[03:59] <emperorhorde> greats from Mexico
[03:59] <Anarhist> hello, something strange is happening on my machine. another site (archive.org) is being resolved as 127.0.0.1, i have checked it's not in the /etc/hosts and have no idea where to look next
[04:00] <mikolaj> PatrickDickey, well thanks for trying to help anyways
[04:00] <jmgk> Greetings emperorhorde
[04:00] <jmgk> :)
[04:00] <PatrickDickey> No problem. I'm glad you got it sorted out.
[04:00] <PatrickDickey> hola emperorhorde.
[04:00] <wilee-nilee> m000gle, A whole lotta HD's, this raid, and what HD is first read  in the bios?
[04:00] <emperorhorde> i need resolving problem with my capture video card
[04:01] <emperorhorde> i am used ubuntu 1304 my video tuner card is  WinTV-PVR-150
[04:02] <m000gle> wilee-nilee： No RAID, just JBoD ... Essentially, Ubuntu and Win8 with shared NTFS storage
[04:02] <emperorhorde> no working :(
[04:02] <Onny> how do I install a package for raring that isn't available in the current
[04:02] <Jiajie_> soy_el_pulpo: thank u! I use echo ~ >>.bashrc and it seems working.
[04:02] <m000gle> wilee-nilee:  I would assume its sda, but I can restart and check BOSI.  brtb
[04:02] <Jiajie_> PatrickDickey:  thank u! I use echo ~ >>.bashrc and it seems working.
[04:02] <soy_el_pulpo> Jiajie_: look for all the things you can do with bashrc... tons of options, you will go crazy
[04:03] <mikolaj> how do I open something like a task manager?
[04:03] <wilee-nilee> m000gle, You have grub in every mbr you just need to make sure the grub boot you see is the one in the sda mbr, you can load it from the dektop are you there now?
[04:03] <soy_el_pulpo> Jiajie_: /etc/bashrc is the global one for all users, it merges with your own if you have one.
[04:03] <Anarhist> issue resolved, it's probably a dns block in russia
[04:03] <PatrickDickey> mikolaj: If you're using a desktop version, you can type System Monitor in the search bar.
[04:03] <m000gle> Yes, I'm on the deskto atm
[04:03] <emperorhorde> soy el pulpo hablas español ??
[04:03] <Jiajie_> PatrickDickey: oh
[04:04] <soy_el_pulpo> y lo escribo tambien
[04:04] <emperorhorde> chido !!!
[04:04] <soy_el_pulpo> ;)
[04:04] <wilee-nilee> m000gle, Run sudo grub-install /dev/sda then sudo update-grub and make sure sda is first read in the bios.
[04:04] <Jiajie_> PatrickDickey: i had crazy thousands of times
[04:04] <soy_el_pulpo> jaja, chido es mexicano
[04:04] <emperorhorde>  no sirve mi capturadora WinTV-PVR-150
[04:04] <emperorhorde> :(}
[04:04] <soy_el_pulpo> hay tantas palabras divertidas entre mexicano y peruano que no te imaginas
[04:05] <emperorhorde> simona pelona
[04:05] <emperorhorde> a hueso
[04:05] <PatrickDickey> emperorhorde: Did the WinTV card work before in Ubuntu?
[04:05] <m000gle> wilee-nilee:  No luck with the sudo grub-install /dev/sda && sudo update-grub ... A with before, it detects the Ubuntu install fine (Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.11.0-12-generic)
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> !mx | soy_el_pulpo
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> !es | soy_el_pulpo
[04:06] <m000gle> m000gle: It's simply not detecting the Windows install on /dev/sda1
[04:06] <emperorhorde> PatrickDickey: is the first time I want to use the card in ubuntu
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> m000gle, I think you are missing some windows bcd in sda2, you have a windows install or recovery disc/usb?
[04:07] <emperorhorde> pulpo esta solo ese canal jaja
[04:07] <emperorhorde> mi ingles apenas esta naciendo ... solo un 30%
[04:07] <m000gle> wilee-nilee: Yeah, I can create a Windows USB, if needed
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> m000gle, I need to reboot to linux to see my own script hold on be right back
[04:08] <PatrickDickey> emperorhorde: http://www.hauppauge.com/site/support/linux.html In the end, I think you have to install the mods from the linuxtv.org site that they'll reference.
[04:08] <eph3meral> so connecting to this VPN I have seems to disconnect some but not all parts of my ethernet connection
[04:08] <eph3meral> has anyone seen this?
[04:08] <PatrickDickey> emperorhorde: You can also join the #linuxtv channel. They'll be the ones to help you get it working.
[04:08] <odium> After an unfortunate mishap with uninstalling cups, I have mostly recovered from but I can't get my audiodevice to work
[04:09] <cipherboy> Hey, does anyone have any decent guides on theming cinnamon? Mostly they say modify an existing theme file, however, I can't seem to find the section which themes the workspace title as it gets displayed when switching workspaces.
[04:09] <emperorhorde> I've been reading but still I can not understand what to do ... install software repositories but the card is not detected.
[04:10] <emperorhorde> aaa linuxtv  ok ok :D
[04:10] <soy_el_pulpo> emperorhorde: do lspci and look for the card in the results
[04:10] <emperorhorde> lspci donde le doy
[04:11] <emperorhorde> in the terminal =??
[04:12] <soy_el_pulpo> asi es
[04:12] <soy_el_pulpo> yes
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> english guys
[04:12] <soy_el_pulpo> da
[04:12] <soy_el_pulpo> yes
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> m000gle, Yeah you are missing this in sda2 /bootmgr "/Boot/BCD" you can repair it with a recovery or install disc/usb boot from a command line I can give you the commands.
[04:13] <m000gle> wilee-nilee: Would tehse commands be run from within my Ubuntu install, or Windows recover CD?
[04:13] <wilee-nilee> m000gle, from the recovery cd booted to its command line
[04:13] <emperorhorde> as it is called to paste data page long??? to send you the list of my devices detected
[04:14] <m000gle> wilee-nilee:  Sure, if you could give me the commands, that would be a huge help
[04:15] <vindav> There's always something to learn & offer support here to help and bring encouragement, and bring furtherance to developing the Ubuntu Linux community.  A good place to go for help.
[04:15] <m000gle> m000gle:  Will this essentially achieve the same thing as booting from a Win8 live CD, recovering the Windows bootloader, and then from an Ubuntu live USB re-installing GRUB2?
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> vindav: great feedback mate
[04:16] <phpwn> hey
[04:16] <phpwn> how long does upstart normally take to respawn a daemon?
[04:16] <wilee-nilee> m000gle, From the recovery command line here are the commands the rebuild is the last one. http://pastebin.com/0uiVXQmU
[04:16] <vindav> Am looking for support tonight.  Helping a friend here who has corrupted .jpg files on their Ubuntu Linux 12.04 LTS system.  FIles were transferred from a USB memory stick.  Some are good and some are not.  Is there a way to uncorrupt the .jpg files ?
[04:17] <wilee-nilee> m000gle, The windows recovery disc booted command line
[04:17] <m000gle> wilee-nilee: Excellent!  Thanks a lot!
[04:17] <sam113101> IT'S BACK
[04:18] <wilee-nilee> m000gle, should work, you will just need to make sure you have run the original grub-nstall to sda and its read first and run a update-grub in ubuntu when all done.
[04:18] <phpwn> hrm, upstart doesn't  seem to be respawning anything
[04:18] <sam113101> it's broken again
[04:18] <sam113101> goddammit
[04:19] <wilee-nilee> sam113101, please keep the emotional outbursts clean
[04:19] <vindav> lotuspsychje:  are you available to chat about getting support on a issue of corrupt .jpg files ?
[04:19] <PatrickDickey> emperorhorde: If you have a lot of stuff to paste, you can put it up at http://paste.ubuntu.com and give the link to us.
[04:20] <sam113101> I cleaned my home folder but the busgs are back
[04:20] <sam113101> ;_;
[04:20] <phpwn> hm looks like "initctl status mydaemon" is not detecting the daemon as up.. any ideas why?
[04:20] <phpwn> even though it's running
[04:20] <PatrickDickey> what bugs are you getting sam113101?
[04:21] <sam113101> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1241252 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1241258 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1241913
[04:21] <sam113101> those
[04:21] <TiZ> Hi. I upgraded to Xubuntu 13.10, and GTK 3 no longer respects xfconf's xsettings/Gtk/ColorScheme property. What can I do about this?
[04:21] <emperorhorde> thanks Patrick !!!!!!!!!!
[04:21] <PatrickDickey> de nada emperorhorde.
[04:22]  * PatrickDickey and that's about all the Spanish I know. :)
[04:22] <sam113101> por favor
[04:22] <sam113101> yo llevo una falda roja
[04:23] <vindav> Is there a way to uncorrupt the .jpg files ?
[04:24] <jmgk> vindav:  change it to a different format
[04:24] <jmgk> .png perhaps?
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> vindav, are they called jpg still?
[04:25] <vindav> jmgk:  Didn't think about that, but I'll try that right now and let you know.  Thank you for responding.  :D
[04:25] <jmgk> yeah
[04:25] <jmgk> no problem vindav
[04:26] <vindav> wilee-nilee:  yes, the files are still .jpg
[04:26] <wilee-nilee> yeah I would try the png
[04:26] <kaio> ola
[04:26] <phpwn> h solved it
[04:27] <jmgk> :)
[04:27] <jmgk> see I was right :d
[04:27] <jmgk> :D
[04:28] <kaio> ola *Anarhist
[04:28] <Anarhist> hi kaio
[04:28] <VeloxAmbitum> dual monitor with multi-workspaces is disorienting
[04:28] <vindav> wilee-nilee:  I tried renaming the .jpg to .png and the file did not open.
[04:28] <wilee-nilee> vindav, hmm, not sure then, no backups?
[04:29] <vindav> jmgk:  I tried renaming the .jpg to .png and the file did not open
[04:29] <vindav> no backups were made
[04:29] <jmgk> oh
[04:29] <jmgk> :(
[04:29] <jmgk> hmm
[04:29] <jmgk> How did it get corrupted ?
[04:30] <vindav> I think the files are corrupt from a previous USB transfer.
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> vindav, testdisk has photorec might try that.
[04:31] <vindav> Can I get those from the Ubuntu Software Centre ?
[04:33] <vindav> Is it possible to just test a folder using testdisk ?k is downloadable from Ubuntu Software Centre.  I'll try that out
[04:33] <wilee-nilee> vindav, testdisk is in the repos, be very careful
[04:34] <vindav> ok, oops, is it possible to just test a folder using testdisk ?
[04:34] <wagonboi> I'm trying to install a program using Wine but after clicking on Next, it closes. It's an EXE setup file. Any ideas?
[04:35] <vindav> wilee-nilee:  how do I be careful when just a 'System Testing' window appears with a list of tests to run on my system ?
[04:36] <PatrickDickey> wagonboi: right click on the file and choose Open with Wine Program Loader?
[04:36] <wagonboi> PatrickDickey, that option isn't on my Right click menu
[04:36] <wagonboi> I open using a custom command, wine %s
[04:37] <wilee-nilee> vindav, I have only used testdisk once just to test it, I believe you can cd to that folder and run it. I'm not real up on its actual use.
[04:37] <PatrickDickey> wagonboi: is the program that you're trying to install supported under Wine? I mean is it listed in the winehq.org database?
[04:37] <wagonboi> Yes it is
[04:38] <vindav> wilee-nilee:  any other suggestions ?
[04:39] <vindav> wilee-nilee:  Can you also suggest please a USB formatter for Ubuntu Linux 12.04 LTS ?
[04:39] <wilee-nilee> vindav, Not really, I would of had that backed up to be honest.
[04:39] <PatrickDickey> wagonboi: You could try using either winetricks or the "Uninstall a Program" from the Wine menu (It has an "Install" button)
[04:39] <vindav> Gnome formatter isn't that good, neither is disc utility
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> vindav, I use gparted to format usb
[04:42] <wagonboi> thanks PatrickDickey . Do you think there are other packages needed to run Windows program, like libmono, or should Wine be able to run programs by themselves?
[04:43] <PatrickDickey> wagonboi: It depends on the application. Winetricks should help you install most of the necessary packages though.
[04:46] <emperorhorde> vidnav TESTDISK rulez :D
[04:46] <Guest29461> Nice to see IRC is still alive and well.
[04:51] <sam113101> ;|
[04:52] <sam113101> I wish I could fix teh bug myself
[04:53] <janja> http://MegaStoon.Com/sms/sms.php?share=178616
[05:01] <jetro> I just unzipped a tar.gz file that contains a driver for my broadcom wireless, I now see a makefile, src folder, and lib folder
[05:01] <jetro> how do I install the driver?
[05:01] <jetro> 1st time on ubuntu, sorry if this is a noob question
[05:01] <jetro> I am guessing I have to use some command on the makefile?
[05:02] <VeloxAmbitum> ggiybf
[05:02] <vozeldr> hello
[05:03] <jetro> I googled, ggiybf, not sure if that is anything meaningful?
[05:03] <VeloxAmbitum> giybf
[05:03] <sam113101> you should be able to install it from the repos I think (your driver)
[05:03] <vozeldr> i have used various nix and bsd distros + mac os and i earn my living as a windows developer
[05:03] <umarzuki> jetro: there's a broadcom driver on ubuntu repo, which model?
[05:04] <umarzuki> jetro: lspci | grep -i network
[05:04] <vozeldr> i've use ubuntu before but i'm about to go back to it as my primary os
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> jetro:  most likely you dont need to compile it. there may be packages for it allready made
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> !broadcom
[05:05] <vozeldr> and was wondering if anyone could give me any guidance as far as setup... literally the only thing i use that is windows specific directly relates to development (VisualStudio, IIS, MSSQL)
[05:06] <Guest29461> A Windows Dev, about to cross over to the dark side of opensource!
[05:06] <jetro> umarzuki: Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller
[05:06] <vozeldr> well, i'll still earn my living as a windows dev... gotta pay the bills!
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> vozeldr:  setup what?   Install and use the defaults, or partion by hand and make a seperate /home/ partition is about as basic as it gets and fits most people.
[05:07] <wilee-nilee> yeah I'm a windows developer to what evet that means lol.
[05:07] <vozeldr> well, this will be my personal computer for 90% of what i need to do and for that work bit that i need to develop in .net for 10% i need to know the best setup for
[05:07] <umarzuki> jetro: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[05:07] <vozeldr> i guess i shouldn't call myself a windows developer... i'm a developer... i get paid to write ios, java, php, ruby, and .net apps
[05:07] <umarzuki> lets see how that goes for you
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> im not sure you really want to do .net development on linux. ;) seems most linux people hate .net or mono
[05:08] <Guest29461> Voz, want to make ven more money at MS?  Get them to open up their source codes to the Unix/Linux community.  They have, after almost 30 years, entrenched their products into every nook and cranny of everyone's lives.  Time for them to let go of that ancient C, and look for improvements outside the box.
[05:08] <wilee-nilee> vozeldr, people might believe you here. ;)
[05:08] <vozeldr> the difference to me is that i can develop .net easily in a virtual machine on linux but apple is a bunch of bastards
[05:09] <jetro> umarzuki, Dr_Willis, I downloaded the driver from that link: http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php, I have unzipped it and there is a Makefile, lib folder, and src folder
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> jetro:  the 'sta' driver i belive is in the default kernel/system
[05:09] <Guest29461> Yah shouldn't HAVE to use a VM to develop!  That is the point!
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> !find linux_sta
[05:10] <vozeldr> look, i said that the only thing i do specifically in windows is visual studio (plus iis and mssql for testing)... lay off me... if never been a windows guy and don't want to use it as primary but bottom line is that's one of the main things i get paid for
[05:10] <xmetal> hmm
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> lay off? dident notice anyone laying on you. Im just not clear on what you are asking about.
[05:11] <jetro> Dr_Willis, so how would I install the driver?
[05:11] <PatrickDickey> vozeldr: If you're developing in Visual C#, you might be able to do it with mono. Otherwise, yeah, you'll have to use a virtual machine.
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> jetro:  if you have an alterantive way to connect to the internet. the addational-drivers tool should be able to install them
[05:11] <vozeldr> Dr_Willis: i was wondering what would be the better way to setup my machine for when i have to do windows development
[05:11]  * PatrickDickey is more or less curious what the original question was from vozeldr.
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> dual boot, or use a virtual machine. are about the only 2 options.
[05:12] <vozeldr> PatrickDickey: i used to contribute to mono and i'm aware of it... but the projects i'm working on when i have to do .net are for clients who definetly want .net
[05:12] <Guest29461> Well, format the drive, low-level, for one.  Then install Windows
[05:12] <PatrickDickey> vozeldr: I would say that you'll need to dual-boot. I've never had any luck installing Visual Studio inisde of a virtual machine. Unless they've fixed that recently.
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> or both. :)
[05:13] <vozeldr> well, i've used vs in a vm before and for a while with 2010 there was an issue with remote desktop and the UI but i don't think that exists anymore
[05:14] <Guest29461> Funny shit man.  A MS Window developer, coming into a Linux open source channel asking how to make their dev machine more amenable to developing Windows proggys.
[05:14] <vozeldr> but my question was more about whether or not i should setup something like virtualbox hosting a guest os or if it would be better to setup something more hyperv
[05:15] <Guest29461> Voz, use the tools Microsoft has provided you with?
[05:15] <PatrickDickey> Guest29461, I've been an Ubuntu user for about four years now. However my college required me to do everything in Windows, and the one I'm teaching at only uses Windows. So, I can see his point.
[05:15] <Guest29461> The company is worth, what?  35 BILLION?  Can they not provide you with the tools you need?
[05:15] <vozeldr> omg... i'm a consultant... i might get paid today to write a .net app and tomorrow be writing a ruby app... development is development and it's how i make my living... get over it
[05:15] <VeloxAmbitum> :o broke ubuntu - no window frames :P
[05:16] <PatrickDickey> He's not a Microsoft Employee. He just develops programs on Windows.
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> VeloxAmbitum:  if compiz crashes - you will loose the decoration
[05:16] <tozen> stop to flooding channel, please, calm down gals!!!
[05:16] <Guest29461> Ahh.  And college these days says that WIndows is the way to go in the future?  To make mad money?
[05:17] <Guest29461> It is crap.  MS and Windows is going to come to a crashing halt, fairly soon
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> enough with the trolling Guest29461  please..
[05:17] <vozeldr> wow, i guess i can't ignore Guest29461 since i'm also a guest?
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> I think the question is about what VM to use for running windows  as a developing enviroment.
[05:17]  * PatrickDickey figures that our community college uses the same os and applications as 99% of the businesses in the area...
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> vozeldr:    /ignore dosent care who you are ;)
[05:18] <vozeldr> yes, Dr_Willis... thanks... my question was about how to best setup my environment
[05:18] <Guest29461> Intel and MS have been in bed with each other for a very long time, but the dancing ballad is going to come to an end when Intel hits that physical limit in the next couple of years.  And then the open source, clean mean machines will bear the brunt of the work.  The Linix/Unix machines
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> you mean 'what viertual machine to use' ;)
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> i only use vbox. so cant really advise about the others.
[05:19] <xtriz> what is the main difference between softlink and hardlink ?
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> xtriz:  a hard link IS identical to the original file.
[05:19] <wagonboi> PatrickDickey, I got it working. Wine 1.4 was uninstalled, I added the Wine repo, and installed Wine 1.5 . Thank you
[05:19] <PatrickDickey> vozeldr: How familiar are you with using Hyper-V? Like Dr_Willis, I only use virtualbox. So I'm not sure whether Hyper-V would work better or not.
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> xtriz:  once you make a hard link to a file. its the same data with 2 names. each are equally valid
[05:20] <vozeldr> i meant run it in an os virtualization like virtualbox or something more paravirtualization like hyperv
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> xtriz:  a soft link is easially detected and can work across filesystems
[05:21] <tozen> Dr_Willis: is it possible to add some xtra space to already created vbox partittion?
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> xtriz:  a hard link can not go across filesystems
[05:21] <Guest29461> Considering all of that, the irony is thick that a Win developer needs to come to an obscure IRC channel to find help.  No help from Microsoft then?  Remember.  IRC is VERY obscure to 99.2995% of the connected population
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> tozen:  should be possible. or just add a 2nd virtual hd to the setup
[05:22] <xtriz> Dr_Willis, nice info :)
[05:22] <xtriz> now getting
[05:22] <vozeldr> yeah, and i've probably been using IRC longer than you've been alive Guest29461 but i thought ubuntu was about community so thought i'd come for a discussion... not to get flamed by some kid
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> xtriz:  i recall reading this from some old old linux kernel book i got decades ago
[05:22] <Guest29461> Your posturing is un-needed and unwarranted
[05:23] <jmgk> brb
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> Guest29461:  as is your trolling. please stop it.
[05:23] <PatrickDickey> Guest29461: And you're beating a cow, and calling it a horse. Please let it drop. It doesn't matter WHAT he's developing for. His question is how to best set up his environment for developing.
[05:23] <xtriz> Dr_Willis, decades ago :D cool :)
[05:24] <Guest29461> voz, here is the bottom line.  You FEED MS the nonsense that allows it to grow.  It is a fat, bloated nasty company that makes money of of laziness.   WHy not start developing for the free and open community
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> xtriz:  yep. i could tell the book was typset with troff/nroff ;)
[05:24] <Ben64> Guest29461: completely off topic, quit it
[05:24] <tozen> Dr_Willis: i mean i've got winxp installed on 4 gigs vbox so can i merge with another to get it more capacious?
[05:24] <Ben64> vozeldr: you should be fine with vbox
[05:25] <xtriz> Dr_Willis, you are quite experience :D even more experience than half of my age :D :D
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> tozen:  vbox i recall has tools to resize the  virtual disks.
[05:25] <vozeldr> cool... i did have some other questions about setting my machine up for other development environments too... like i said, i'm a consultant i write what my client wants
[05:25] <Strit> Hi guys. Any of you know how to get Kazam screencaster to work in 13.10? Appearently it broke during update.
[05:26] <xtriz> Dr_Willis, till i remember the best i have seen you here atleast 3 years back when i first install ubuntu 10.04
[05:26] <tozen> Dr_Willis: ok thx mate ;-)
[05:26] <Guest29461> My bad.  Let's just all go up into space and fall back to earth with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aCOyOvOw5c
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> xtriz:  i was ircing back in the days of serial terminals and green-bar printing 'terminals' ;)
[05:27] <vozeldr> like traditionally i've had apache installed for doing *AMP applications but for java development i've run jetty... is there a prefered web server i could install that would handle both easily?
[05:27] <Guest29461> Green bar printing terminal?  You mean a dot matrix, on the alternating green/white paper?
[05:27] <tozen> Strit: dont really think it's ready for 13.10 to fresh distro yet
[05:28] <rdw200169> vozeldr: well, there's mod_jk for apache that can bridge tomcat and apache
[05:28] <Strit> to
[05:28] <Strit> tozen, well it worked fine on 13.04. And now it's in the default repo's.
[05:29] <vozeldr> yeah, been a while since i tried it... does it integrate better into eclipse and netbeans now?
[05:29] <tozen> in 13.10 repos?
[05:29] <Strit> tozen, yeah
[05:29] <Strit> tozen, but when I press capture it just blinks yellow and red a few times and then closes down.
[05:30] <rdw200169> vozeldr: does anything integrate well into eclipse/netbeans? <joke>
[05:30] <PatrickDickey> vozeldr: I've used Netbeans with Glassfish for development in college. That seemed to work alright. We didn't get into Tomcat very deeply though.
[05:30] <vozeldr> i had tried it a while ago but didn't have that debug in... capability so went with jetty and/or glassfish and never tried again
[05:30] <xtriz> Dr_Willis, from how long you are using linux ?
[05:30] <tozen> Strit: well launch it with console and pastebin exhaust, please
[05:31] <vozeldr> i'm just looking to setup my new workstation as optimally as possible and not having to run 3-4 web servers would definitely go a long way towards that
[05:31] <vozeldr> especially in configuration
[05:31] <Strit> tozen, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6268295/
[05:31] <Strit> tozen, ps, danish client. :)
[05:32] <ChogyDan> vozeldr: you may want to ask in something like askubuntu or stackoverflow.  I think you can better get those detailed multi-faceted answers
[05:35] <jetro> Dr_Willis, I used a wired connection to install the driver, all it took was two commands!
[05:35] <jetro> thx for the help
[05:36] <jetro> any recommendations for antivirus?
[05:36] <wilee-nilee> !av
[05:36] <vozeldr> ChogyDan: yeah, i'll probably check a few sources but was looking for some direct dialog... i know i'm not unique and not the only person who develops in a ton of different languages
[05:37] <Hundred> what is a good offline dictionary for ubuntu?
[05:37] <Hundred> i;m looking for something like WordWeb for Windows
[05:37] <vozeldr> i would never tell someone that antivirus is something they don't need
[05:38] <vozeldr> if you follow the best practices and only install software from the ubuntu repositories or from trusted sources... and you are a very mild web browser then yeah
[05:38] <xmetal> well sort of true .... on Linux I do not think its needed as much as MS OS's
[05:38] <xmetal> i agree with the bot's comment
[05:39] <Hundred> linux only has about 1.5% of the computer desktop market heh
[05:39] <vozeldr> well, i've installed a ton of stuff on my linux boxes that i've compiled from source and never looked a single line to confirm it wasn't stealing my bank account information
[05:40] <Hundred> since the support for Windows XP is ending next year, a lightweight Linux distro should be able to get a lot of new users, but not Ubuntu since it it has a higher system requirement than Windows XP
[05:41] <vozeldr> i'm just saying that it a) depends on your personal habits, b) depends on your technical knowledge and c) depends on the amount of time you have to ensure your machine is secure
[05:41] <BlueShark> Hey. The sound setting in always muted - http://i.imgur.com/wTLaLls.png — any idea why? I can't play any music/audio.
[05:41] <wilee-nilee> Hundred, not a figure that you can actually prove, it is a estimate and wrong
[05:41] <tozen> Strit: ?
[05:41] <BlueShark> I checked alsamixer and the sound settings are same as before and auto-mute is disabled. I'm not sure what's causing this..
[05:41] <jonny5alive> I am trying to setup a ubuntu usb install with encrypted persistence. In this tutorial it skip's encrypting the home folder and seems to encrypt the entire drive. I wanted to know, what is the default encrypt method used for your home folders with the desktop install?
[05:42] <wilee-nilee> Hundred, This is also support not chat.
[05:42] <eoss> I have a box that's using ubuntu 10.04, and im trying to download something that I can easily download in 120.04 using apt-get, is there a way to make 10.04 download from the same sources as my 120.04 box?
[05:42] <wilee-nilee> jonny5alive, why would you even bother with that?
[05:42] <jonny5alive> wilee: I want to be as safe as possible.
[05:43] <PatrickDickey> jonny5alive: You might look at the backtrack linux site. While their information is geared towards their distro, the distro is based on Ubuntu.
[05:43] <Strit> tozen, what? I posted it.... http://paste.ubuntu.com/6268295/
[05:43] <zykotick9> PatrickDickey: jonny5alive backtrack is dead, it's been replaced by kali.
[05:43] <wilee-nilee> jonny5alive, a persistent will fill up and can't be cleaned, besides the limitations of the live environment.
[05:43] <jonny5alive> Eh, i've ran backtrack not too keen on making that my default OS.
[05:43] <PatrickDickey> jonny5alive: So, you should be able to substitute your ubuntu live CD in place of theirs. Or, you might want to use kali.
[05:43] <BlueShark> Hmm, and pacmd list-sinks says 'muted: no'
[05:44] <Hundred> jetro try ClamAV its free and opensource, but companies like AVG and Avast make anticirus for linux too i think
[05:44] <PatrickDickey> zykotick9: I know it's a dead distro. But they had the steps up to do exactly what he wants.
[05:44] <jonny5alive> Im currently using TAILS, however since the networking is by default based around TOR, I cannot connect to my vpn first
[05:44] <xmetal> !clamAV
[05:44] <zykotick9> PatrickDickey: apply those steps in kali.  very similar.
[05:44] <jonny5alive> I was hoping to setup a similar encrypted persistance environment in ubunutu
[05:44] <xmetal> (i am guessing)
[05:44] <jonny5alive> giving me network flexibility
[05:44] <xmetal> or maybe a search is needed
[05:44] <jetro> Hundred, thanks! looking into it
[05:44] <xmetal> hmm
[05:44] <SchrodingersScat> !info clamav | jetro
[05:45] <xmetal> ty SchrodingersScat :P
[05:45] <zykotick9> !virus
[05:45] <Hundred> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems
[05:45] <xmetal> thats what i was trying to do
[05:45]  * SchrodingersScat whispers, "I know."
[05:45] <jonny5alive> tails is really perfect, with the exeption that it forces you to connect to TOR first in everything
[05:46] <SchrodingersScat> jonny5alive: does it make a simultaneous connection to i2p? or is that optional?
[05:46] <jonny5alive> optional
[05:46] <jonny5alive> default is tor
[05:46] <PatrickDickey> I read (and granted this was in relation to a Mac--not Linux), that you should put an antivirus on anyhow. It's better to have the protection before you need it, then to try and protect yourself after the problem starts.
[05:47] <jonny5alive> So can someone tell me what type of encryption is used for encrypting the home dir? Is it LUKS?
[05:47] <jmgk> ?msg nickServ info rocket16
[05:48] <SchrodingersScat> PatrickDickey: afaik clamav doesn't autoscan, you could scan everything you download though, sure.  You could make an incron job for your default Download directories.
[05:48] <PatrickDickey> !encryption | jonny5alive
[05:48] <vozeldr> PatrickDickey: that did remind me of many years back when mac users would say that viruses were for windows... now linux users say that viruses are only for mac and windows
[05:49] <cdrkeen> is there anyway I can prevent a process from crashing my system when its at full load?
[05:49] <vozeldr> if viruses were not possible on *nix-based systems would there be commercial antivirus applications for mac osx?
[05:50] <SchrodingersScat> vozeldr: The larger threat is social engineering, like installing proprietary software, or java
[05:51] <vozeldr> of course, we don't care about software installed from the ubuntu repos... it's all the other software
[05:52] <SchrodingersScat> vozeldr: not implying that strawman
[05:52] <SchrodingersScat> vozeldr: has there been a case of that? outside of debian?
[05:52] <vozeldr> i was very surprised that the official ubuntu book didn't say anything at all about antivirus
[05:53] <vozeldr> all i'm saying is that ubuntu is looking for broader market share then they are also going to get a larger exposure and have to protect the users
[05:53] <jonny5alive> Is my encrypted home partition in any way 'less secure' than having a entire encrypted LVM?
[05:53] <miffed> how can i restore graphics drivers to open source ones from command line?
[05:55] <Hundred> jonny5alive what are you trying to protect from
[05:55] <paulus68_1> vozeldr: you are probably right however in order to execute a virus under windows nobody needs to give their approval to execute that virus in your place. under linux in order to execute a program or potantial dangerous program you need the users approval
[05:56] <vozeldr> or the suid
[05:57] <tsimpson> vozeldr: simply put, there are no known viruses in the wild
[05:57] <vozeldr> nothing digital or human is perfect
[05:57] <Hundred> sometimes in linux troubleshooting a problem will probably take as much time as dealing with a virus issue on windows lol
[05:58] <SchrodingersScat> vozeldr: I just think of antivirus differently in linux, just like you can't protect from someone getting tricked into running a malicious command as root, AV can only do so much.  If someone did decide to sneak something nasty in the repos I'm not sure how an AV would detect that it's unwanted behavior and kill it...
[05:58] <vozeldr> like i've said... i'm about to buy a new ubuntu system ... i plan on defending it like it's being attacked by things that don't yet exist, that's all
[05:58]  * xmetal nods @ SchrodingersScat 
[05:58] <jonny5alive> What I am or am not trying to protect is irrelevant. I am simply trying to maximize security and would like to know the answer.
[05:59] <arunkumar413> i need the documentation for ubuntu touch api
[05:59] <cfhowlett> !touch|arunkumar413,
[06:00] <Hundred> the reason why BSD claims to be secure is because no one uses that OS and thus no one codes viruses for it lol ...many believe that linux is much more secure than even openBSD, there are websites dedicated to exposing BSD security
[06:01] <vozeldr> jonny5alive: what i do is buy antivirus... disable it if you find it hampers your gaming or develpment (since you're unlikely to contract a virus during these anyhow)
[06:01] <jonny5alive> Think you quoted the wrong guy :)
[06:01] <jonny5alive> So, ubuntu is telling me that the OS has 'automatically genereated a strong passphrase'
[06:01] <vozeldr> sorry
[06:01] <cfhowlett> NO system is bulletproof.  You can make yourself crazy "protecting" your system.  My opinion: treat the biggest threat - the idiot located at the interface between the keyboard and display and most problems will be solved.
[06:01] <jonny5alive> regarding my encrypted home dir
[06:02] <paulus68_1> vozeldr: antivirus under linux is free
[06:02] <Hundred> jonny5alive if you consider security enhancing your privacy, you really should not be using Ubuntu as it logs your habits with software like Zeitgeist and even sends keywords data to places like Amazon to target ADs to you, you can search the internet about this stuff
[06:02] <jonny5alive> ah, really good info, thanks hundred
[06:02] <cfhowlett> Hundred, FUD ...
[06:02] <vozeldr> boo
[06:02] <vooze> Does anyone know of some cool RED folder icons.. Like maybe Faenza in red? I only need the folder icons (like home, documents etc.) ?? :)
[06:03] <vozeldr> don't listen to Hundred
[06:03] <jonny5alive> I am looking for a alternative to TAILS
[06:03] <jonny5alive> oh, haha, okay
[06:03] <vozeldr> that can be turned off
[06:03] <jonny5alive> Anyways, i just looked at the 'random generated passphrase' the OS made for me
[06:03] <jonny5alive> it sucks and its weak
[06:03] <cfhowlett> jonny5alive, so make another..
[06:03] <Hundred> jonny5alive are you experienced with linux? if so, try out Debian, if you are new to linux try out Linux Mint
[06:04] <jonny5alive> I tried debian
[06:04] <vozeldr> so is Hundred, jonny5alive and vooze the same person?
[06:04] <jonny5alive> go ahead and google using a encrypted persistence
[06:04] <jonny5alive> it is not possible in debian
[06:04] <vooze> vozeldr: ehm.. what
[06:04] <jonny5alive> which is why i choose ubuntu
[06:04] <cxdb5> i ran an apt-get command to download and install a newer kernel from debian and now when i restart the computer grub doesn't show linux, only windows... any idea how to fix this? i'm at the grub command prompt
[06:04] <jonny5alive> or, by 'not possible' it seems even the smart people struggle with it, and I am not one of them.
[06:04] <cfhowlett> cxdb5, update grub
[06:05] <cfhowlett> cxdb5, sudo update grub
[06:05] <Hundred> jonny5alive so you are looking for a USB OS?
[06:05] <cxdb5> sudo doesn't work in the grub prompt
[06:06] <cfhowlett> cxdb5, you're right.  to recover boot your ubuntu usb and then fix
[06:06] <cfhowlett> !grub
[06:06] <cxdb5> is there any way to do this without the cd/usb? i don't have it :(
[06:07] <cfhowlett> cxdb5, always keep one ready ...
[06:07] <cfhowlett> see the link.  MAYBE you can fix via commandline
[06:09] <Hundred> jonny5alive anyone Ubuntu based distro should be good, as long as it is not using the Unity DE
[06:09] <jonny5alive> Yes, USB OS. With encrypted persistence.
[06:09] <cfhowlett> !who
[06:10] <JMichaelX> moc is broken in saucy??
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> hmm. why would you need an encrypted persistance fikle. when you could setup and encrypt just the home. but i guess it depends on how paranoid you want to be.
[06:11] <JMichaelX> :-(
[06:11] <cfhowlett> !details|JMichaelX,
[06:11] <Hundred> jonny5alive but you can probablt just install any linux distro to a USB
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[06:11] <jonny5alive> Hundred: I appreciate the offered help, but it does not seem to help much.
[06:11] <Hundred> just direct the install to the USB drive instead of the computer hdd
[06:11]  * JMichaelX puts ubottu on ignore
[06:11] <jonny5alive> Im just going to redo this install with a full encrypted LVM
[06:11] <jonny5alive> thanks guys.
[06:12] <xmetal> good grief
[06:12] <JMichaelX> cfhowlett: i'm getting a segfault on two machines when attempting to use moc. i think it is a known issue, but one i just discovered on my boxes.
[06:13] <JMichaelX> cfhowlett: this problem may or may not be restricted to 64-bit systems
[06:13] <TheRaven> Hello Ubuntu users!
[06:13] <cfhowlett> JMichaelX, ask again with full details.  GTG - sorry
[06:14] <cdrkeen> sup I'm trying to run a simple game Counter-Strike on Steam for linux.... and it freezes after 10 minutes of running around
[06:14] <JMichaelX> cdrkeen: your just not cool enough to ask questions in this channel.
[06:15] <cdrkeen> JMichaelX, ahh.
[06:15] <JMichaelX> oh, hi cdrkeen
[06:15] <cdrkeen> I'll go back to googling then
[06:15] <JMichaelX> lol
[06:15] <JMichaelX> cdrkeen: do you know of moc, or ever use it?
[06:16] <cdrkeen> wat
[06:16] <Romance> how do i mount android phone (motorola atrix 2), ubuntu 12.04 , already installed mtpfs and mtp-tools, followed the tutorial but when i do mtp-detect , no raw devies found
[06:16] <Romance> devices*
[06:16] <TheRaven> cdrkeen - You could also run Country Strike from Terminal, and when it freezes, check the logs?
[06:16] <tozen> Dr_Willis: here is what i found tohow to resize vbox image: VBoxManage modifyhd ~/soft/winxp/winxp.vdi --resize 10050 (That will resize a virtual disk image to 10GB)
[06:16] <cdrkeen> that works
[06:17] <Hundred> Romance did you set as "drive/disk" on the phone instead of charging?
[06:17] <JMichaelX> cdrkeen: it's an awesome console music player... it is segfaulting. i need to figure out how to compile it, so that it works again... otherwise i will be pouting until it gets fixed
[06:17] <Romance> Hundred, i followed exactly as the tutorial, set MTP
[06:18] <Romance> Hundred, http://www.mysolutions.it/mounting-your-mtp-androids-sd-card-on-ubuntu/
[06:18] <TheRaven> Anyone on 13.10?
[06:18] <TheRaven> Im on 12.04 (Elementary OS and Ubuntu Dual boot), wanting to know if there are any new benefits from 13.10
[06:19] <cdrkeen> lol
[06:19] <Romance> TheRaven, consider the 6 months cycle distro as "testing" before the LTS release
[06:20] <Romance> its buggy for most and works charming for some
[06:20] <xmetal> wether Ubuntu or the OS i use (not going to go OT here), i am waiting for the next release before i'd upgrade
[06:20] <xmetal> both OS's are releasing LTS versions in april/may
[06:20] <TheRaven> Yeah, i am waiting for the 14.04 LTS. I prefer to run the two OS's at the same version, instead of one higher and one lower.
[06:20] <TheRaven> So would you all recommend just hold out till April for the 14.04 LTS release? as 12.04 is supported for another 2 years correct?
[06:21] <Romance> TheRaven, hold your horse
[06:21] <genii> TheRaven: Frankly you're probably better off to stick with Precise and then later go to 14.04 after waiting a couple weeks from release to make sure no glaring huge bugs.issues
[06:21] <Romance> TheRaven, but its recommended for you to try out 13.10 and looks if that fit your hardware if theres problem report it
[06:21] <s-haha-n> does 13.10 have a ufw? or some kind of firewall?
[06:21] <sam113101> I think I might go back to 13.04
[06:22] <xmetal> good point, gen... thats what i do
[06:22] <xmetal> wiat for "everyone e3lse to find the glaring bugs"
[06:22] <xmetal> :P
[06:22] <TheRaven> Hmm thanks Romance and genii, i have a UX31A Asus Zenbook Prime, and its rather good with Linux, but once i get it setup i hate changing. I will attempt a 13.10 install on it and see how it goes, and take it from there.
[06:22] <TheRaven> I just use this as a production machine and would hate to blow away my OS and then have to re-image it back if something goes wrong.
[06:23] <PatrickDickey> TheRaven: I was just going to suggest making an image before you do the upgrade. Just in case something does happen.
[06:24] <Carsekyx> Would you guys recommend going with a LTS version for a first time user?
[06:25] <TheRaven> Carsekyx, i would recommend it yes, as the LTS versions seem to be less buggy. If you are a first time user, you want an experience that is flawless, which the latest releases may not provide based on the hardware its running on
[06:26] <Carsekyx> Yeah okay I think I might downgrade
[06:27] <PatrickDickey> Carsekyx: If you're not having problems, I wouldn't downgrade. And depending on the problems you're having, you might not want to either.
[06:27] <Carsekyx> A series of unfortunate events led to my windows partition getting wiped so I'm ubuntu-ing for a bit until I get win disks back. I'm using 13.10 but having a bunch of trouble with dual monitor support
[06:28] <Carsekyx> and any guides I find online about it result in needing to reinstall the OS
[06:29] <PatrickDickey> what issues are you having with dual monitors? And which graphics card do you have?
[06:29] <Carsekyx> I've got a toshiba satellite which has intel graphics + nvidia card and the nvidia card won't turn on
[06:29] <Carsekyx> I also can't modify brightness or resolution
[06:29] <Carsekyx> PatrickDickey, ^
[06:31] <Hundred> so are all ubuntu releases except for LTS only going to have 9 months support now?
[06:34] <Hundred> most people probably won't install an OS with less than 1 full year support, so i guess Ubuntu will only really be focusing on LTS releases
[06:35] <genii> Hundred: Yes, they do not even ship interim release CD/DVD to LoCos any more, just LTS
[06:36] <Hundred> then they should just support it for only 6 months
[06:36] <aeon-ltd> you upgrade the os then you get more support
[06:36] <aeon-ltd> that's the idea
[06:36] <aeon-ltd> the requirements aren't exactly high
[06:36] <Hatter13> Anyone know how to write scripts for rtmpdump on linux? I have a wndows script that i cant figure out how to modiy or write a new one to get it to work on linux
[06:39] <Hundred> aeon-ltd so if you use an OS for 9 months, would you use the unsupported OS for 3 months waiting for the new release, or install the older version which will only be support for 6 months? lol
[06:40] <Hundred> who is making decisions at Ubuntu now-a-days? lol
[06:42] <Hundred> they should probably just release 1 version every year on "Ubuntu Day" with a full 12 year support with every other year being LTS
[06:42] <aeon-ltd> Hundred: you do know there is a release every 6 months right?
[06:42] <Hundred> 12 month*
[06:43] <ssj5goku> i wanted to install winows 8 throug live usb...can anone tell me which software to use..
[06:43] <tozen> Hundred: :D 12 years...
[06:43] <fatalflux> Hello everybody :) I've got a quick question:
[06:43] <fatalflux> why doesn't (block count * block size) from dumpe2fs match what I see in system monitor's file systems tab?
[06:44] <Carsekyx> I guess my next question. Is there any easy/recommended way to downgrade to 12.04 from 13.10?
[06:44] <tozen> Carsekyx: no
[06:44] <aeon-ltd> don't downgrade
[06:44] <aeon-ltd> unless you want to kill your install
[06:45] <Hundred> aeon-ltd yes, think about it, after 9 months you have a choice of using the older support release which will only be for 6 months since support is only 9 months long, or you use the version for 3 months unsupported until the new release
[06:45] <ssj5goku> anyone pls answer my question
[06:45] <Carsekyx> aeon-ltd, It's going to happen whether I wipe or what
[06:45] <Carsekyx> just wanted to see if there was a recommended way
[06:45] <Ben64> Hundred: 6 months is less time than 9 months, you don't make any sense
[06:46] <aeon-ltd> Hundred: or you upgrade every 6 months like they want you to
[06:46] <Ben64> Carsekyx: why not wait the 2 months an upgrade to 14.04 alpha?
[06:46] <aeon-ltd> Hundred: think of it as 6+3 not 9, 6 months to release, 3 months support before rolling over
[06:46] <Carsekyx> Ben64, because I like my machines to work how I expect them to work and if 12.04 has better support for the stuff I need it'll be the way to go
[06:47] <Ben64> Carsekyx: 12.04 has _less_ support for dual gpu systems
[06:47] <aeon-ltd> ssj5goku: ask in a windows channel
[06:47] <Carsekyx> Ben64, perhaps you could help me solve my problem then?
[06:48] <Ben64> Carsekyx: someone here probably can
[06:48] <Hundred> Ben64 if the releases are only supported for 9 months and releases are every 6 months, then when you reach the 9th month period you either wait 3 months unsupported for the new release or install an older release which will only be supported for 6 months
[06:48] <ssj5goku> is there a windows channel
[06:48] <Ben64> Hundred: you're not getting it...  after 6 months theres a new release, you can upgrade to it
[06:49] <fatalflux> ssj5goku: windows usually doesn't like being run from an external device unless you're using Windows To Go
[06:49] <aeon-ltd> ssj5goku: ##windows
[06:49] <fatalflux> getting around that is pretty difficult
[06:49] <helmut_> hi
[06:49] <aeon-ltd> Hundred: if you were going to 'ride' the support to the end use the LTS version
[06:49] <aeon-ltd> you don't hve to wait for support to end
[06:50] <fatalflux> now does anybody have an idea about my question regarding filesystem size? :)
[06:50] <Hundred> people have been using Windows XP for years, most people would not bother installing a new release every 6 months
[06:50] <Ben64> Hundred: and thats why we have LTS...
[06:51] <Ben64> instead of a 3 month period where you have to upgrade or lose support ..... LTS you get a 3 year period
[06:51] <Hundred> then the 9 month release is should be 6 months if the intention is for it to be a "Testing" release
[06:51] <IdleOne> All very interesting, not on topic for this channel though.
[06:51] <wilee-nilee> fatalflux, a rather vague question amounts would probably help.
[06:51] <PatrickDickey> Isn't it a five year for LTS now?
[06:52] <Hundred> why waste 3 months support on a "testing" release twice a year
[06:52] <Ben64> yes PatrickDickey
[06:52] <Ben64> Hundred: its not testing and its not 3 months, its 9 months
[06:53] <fatalflux> wilee-nilee: Block count: 27530000, Block size: 4096. so that's a total size of 112.8 GB right? Yet the filesystems tab on system monitor says the total size is 110.9 GB
[06:54] <Ben64> might be measuring file sizes instead of physical space taken
[06:55] <halp> my friend told me that ubuntu has back doors on purpose to let the cia look at your PC
[06:55] <Ben64> halp: very wrong, and not on topic here
[06:55] <fatalflux> the reason I ask is because I need to reduce the LV to match the filesystem. Instinct says to resize it to what dumpe2fs says, just wanted to double check.
[06:56] <Hundred> Ben64 if the intention is for most people to use LTS, then why waste developers' time 6 months of the year supporting "testing" versions
[06:56] <rex123456> http://askubuntu.com/questions/361332/ubuntu-13-04-to-13-10-filesystem-check-or-mount-failed/362268#362268
[06:57] <wilee-nilee> fatalflux, gigs get counted as 1024 and 1000MB depending on who or whats doing it basically.
[06:57] <rex123456> anyone can help?
[06:57] <wilee-nilee> fatalflux, So the bits are different.
[06:57] <fatalflux> wilee-nilee: yeah i was thinking it might be a 1000/1024 issue, but the numbers dont match for that to be it, but i'll check again
[06:57] <Ben64> Hundred: i'm done repeating myself, just read this. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[06:59] <aeon-ltd> Hundred: there are no testing versions but unreleased stuff, every 6 months an OFFICIAL release is done
[06:59] <fatalflux> wilee-nilee: see system monitor says 110.9GB but if you take that to mean GiB you get 119, which doesn't match the block count/size
[06:59] <aeon-ltd> rex123456: ask your question
[07:00] <wilee-nilee> fatalflux, I think its just a matter of not really accurate counting to be honest, not on your part but the softwares
[07:01] <fatalflux> wilee-nilee: yeah probably. i think i'll just go with block count * size since that seems probably most accurate. just wanted to float the question to see if i was missing something obvious
[07:01] <fatalflux> thanks for the help all :)
[07:05] <rex123456> i having the issue same as http://askubuntu.com/questions/361332/ubuntu-13-04-to-13-10-filesystem-check-or-mount-failed/362268#362268 anyone can help?
[07:07] <wilee-nilee> rex123456, Can you access the partitions from a live cd?
[07:08] <MorrowindFan> Quick question, can I have seperate settings for my mouse and touchpad?
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> MorrowindFan:  i notice on xubuntu 13.10 i an
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> can
[07:09] <jmgk> hi Dr_Willis
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> was just setting my touchpads speeds differntly then the mouse speeds
[07:09] <natsu> Hello. Im new to programing. Im learning C++ Python and Now Java. I was wandering if there was a good programming tool I could use that would compile all the programs for me.
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> moo jmgk
[07:09] <jmgk> lol
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> !info geany | natsu
[07:10] <MorrowindFan> I'm on Lubuntu 13.10. What I was looking for is moreof a way to have the trackpad buttons switched (right as primary left as secondary) and my mouse as normal
[07:10] <mikolaj> is "super" the windows logo key?
[07:10] <natsu> Ok Thanks. Now for Java how would I view the programs Becuase I want to build games
[07:10] <jmgk> hi natsu
[07:10] <CrashedUpdate> goodmorning. During the update from 13.04 to 13.10 my comp. crashed. I managed to copy the homedirectory to an external HD. Are there any other directories that might contain personal files?
[07:10] <natsu> PS im on Ubuntu 13.10
[07:10] <wilee-nilee> mikolaj, yep
[07:10] <natsu> HI jmgk
[07:10] <SoItBegins> I'm having trouble with... I am on a MacBook Pro (4,1), using GNOME and Ubuntu 12.10. Whenever I use one of the media keys (brightness up/down, volume up/down) not only does the requested change NOT happen, gnome-setting-daemon's CPU usage goes up to 100% and stays there.
[07:10] <mikolaj> what is then hyper?
[07:10] <jmgk> reply
[07:10] <SoItBegins> (Note that I uninstalled Unity and all its parts)
[07:10] <jmgk> hm
[07:10] <Hundred> natsu i want to play your games :)
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> view the programs? what do you mean natsu ..  You write the code. and the ide has menus to compile/run the code
[07:11] <wilee-nilee> SoItBegins, really I doubt that.
[07:11] <natsu> Well I meant for Java. Like how can I test the games I make
[07:11] <natsu> y
[07:11] <jmgk> natsu,  uo gt msg
[07:11] <jmgk> :P
[07:11] <SoItBegins> OK, most of its parts. Everything not depended on by the rest of the system. But I did remove most of the Unity desktop.
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> you run the app.
[07:11] <eph3meral> how can I get my VPN to not block the rest of my internet?
[07:12] <mikolaj> I used super+space to assign that combo to switch keyboard langugages
[07:12] <mikolaj> the combo says it's mod4+super+hyper+space
[07:12] <aeon-ltd> mikolaj: alt?
[07:12] <paul> hi all
[07:13] <wilee-nilee> SoItBegins, Why, there is a gnome only release
[07:13] <jmgk> greetings paul
[07:13] <paul> I'm using ubuntu 13.10 and I've lost my unity menu
[07:13] <Carsekyx> I've been looking through this and I don't have a switch file (on 13.10) wat do? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[07:13] <aeon-ltd> mikolaj: unless ^ = hyper then it's ctrl iirc
[07:13] <paul> can someone please help me get it back.
[07:13] <wilee-nilee> paul, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/reset-unity-and-compiz-in-ubuntu-13-10/
[07:14] <SoItBegins> wilee-nilee: I had the normal release installed already. But that's not exactly the point here. The point is about gnome-settings-daemon freezing.
[07:14] <mikolaj> aeon-ltd, but the combo I used to assign the key is not working, which is why i'm confused
[07:14] <aeon-ltd> mikolaj: the last i assigned stuff, i think mod4 was my win key
[07:14] <wilee-nilee> SoItBegins, Problem I see is you have hacked around with it, I suspect not really knowing what your doing, so details probably will really help is all, we have all done this at one time.
[07:15] <SoItBegins> OK, so I followed this guide to remove Unity:
[07:15] <Vivek> I would like to join #ubuntu-beginners-dev, I am getting a message that the channel is full. Please help.
[07:15] <Vivek> Thanks  in advance.
[07:15] <CrashedUpdate> anybody? What other folders do i need to backup besides home to not lose any personal files?
[07:15] <wilee-nilee> SoItBegins, And this guide was put out by say canonical?
[07:15] <SoItBegins> No
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> CrashedUpdate:  as far as i know all the users personal files are in their home.
[07:16] <wilee-nilee> or the gnome developers
[07:16] <SoItBegins> This guide
[07:16] <SoItBegins> http://blogs.operationaldynamics.com/paul/opensource/not-unifed-in-12-10-the-quickening
[07:16] <SoItBegins> I performed the apt-get removal commands listed
[07:16] <CrashedUpdate> Vivek, a full channel means exactly that. Wait till another user leaves or the channel limit is raised
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> CrashedUpdate:  unless they put some tempary files in /tmp/ or some other filesystem on the system
[07:16] <paul> thank you
[07:17] <wilee-nilee> SoItBegins, ppa's are not supported here and that is some guys ideas, not really legit her within this framework.
[07:17] <CrashedUpdate> Dr_Willis, but temporay files would be something like unsafed documents or something like that?
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> CrashedUpdate:  anything that an app may store in /tmp.
[07:17] <SoItBegins> er, nonono, not those.
[07:17] <SoItBegins> I installed gnome through the package manager.
[07:17] <SoItBegins> The commands I ran were these:
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> CrashedUpdate:  for me - its mainly a work area for dvd remastering and so forth. so no need to back it up ;)
[07:18] <SoItBegins> # apt-get --yes purge unity
[07:18] <SoItBegins> # apt-get --yes purge unity-asset-pool unity-services
[07:18] <SoItBegins> # apt-get --yes purge unity-lens-* unity-scope-* ubuntu-webapps-*
[07:18] <SoItBegins> # apt-get --yes purge unity-common
[07:18] <SoItBegins> # apt-get --yes purge libunity-misc4 libunity-core-6* libunity-webapps*
[07:18] <FloodBot1> SoItBegins: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:18] <SoItBegins> # apt-get --yes purge gir1.2-unity-*
[07:18] <Vivek> CrashedUpdate: Can't some one here, relay a message on my behalf to the ops there ?
[07:18] <wilee-nilee> SoItBegins, probably all fixable but you are asking a lot to get help is all, it may take awhile, and this is on a apple computer.
[07:18] <CrashedUpdate> I'll check it out, and after that it's time for a squeeky clean install of 13.10
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> Vivek:  theres #ubuntu-ops
[07:18] <CrashedUpdate> ^^
[07:18] <Vivek> Dr_Willis: Thanks
[07:18] <SoItBegins> All I'd like is for my media keys to work. The remainder of my system is working fine.
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> Vivek:  and if the channel were under 'attack' or being spammed to death - the
[07:18] <rex123456> wilee-nilee : yes
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> y may limit it
[07:19] <natsu> Ok thanks guys. I downloaded Geany. Now im still new to C++ is there a site or somtheing that can help teach me better
[07:19] <rex123456> i run fsck /dev/sda2
[07:19] <rex123456> all was alright
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> natsu:  hit up delicious.com  and see what people have bookmarked most for C++ tutorials  perhaps
[07:19] <Daughain> Has anyone here heard of, and /or used Ubuntu Satanic?
[07:19] <CrashedUpdate> Dr_Willis, tmp appears to be clean/not containing anything. Thanks for your help!
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  it was a silly gimmiic when it came out years ago.. and is not really worth mentioning..
[07:20] <auronandace> Daughain: not supported here
[07:20] <natsu> Thanks Dr Willis Will look at it now
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  ranks up there with 'Hanna Montanna Linux'
[07:20] <wilee-nilee> rex123456, You might consider just pulling out what you need, then checking that the HD is okay and just reinstalling, trying to fix a system you have only just linked to another that you think is similar is stretching this a bit, is all.
[07:21]  * xmetal thinks "did Dr just say that?" and re-reads that 
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> xmetal:  yes.. it did exist. ;)
[07:21] <Daughain> That truly scares me...
[07:21] <xmetal> lol
[07:22] <xmetal> well ... you learn something new everyday
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> found a huge stack of old Linux cd's the other day. ;)
[07:22] <Daughain> And, sometimes you were better off being ignorant.....?? =)
[07:22] <wilee-nilee> right between ubuntu satanic and mint
[07:22] <jmgk> Dr_Willis,  whats Hannah Montana linux?
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> jmgk:  ubuntu with a Pink theme.
[07:22] <rex123456> wilee-nilee , so no solutions for this?
[07:23] <natsu> Ive never heard of hannah montah linux
[07:23] <jmgk> oh lol
[07:23] <SoItBegins> Dr_Willis: Insert twerking joke here.
[07:23] <jmgk> SoItBegins,  hahah
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> SoItBegins:  i dont even know what that term means.. ;)
[07:23] <jmgk> oh come on Dr_Willis
[07:23] <jmgk> :)
[07:23] <wilee-nilee> rex123456, You would have to have some details not a link to something you think is similar, a waste of time time wise really.
[07:23] <jmgk> twerkin
[07:23] <bazhang> jmgk, stay on topic
[07:24] <jmgk> sorry bazhang  someone else brought it up not me
[07:24] <Daughain> Ok, looks like a fresh install in my near future....
[07:24] <wilee-nilee> rex123456, Can it be fixed and is surely fixed hard to say really, no real description, the best you could of done was to image/clone the original to just pop back in.
[07:25] <SoItBegins> So, wilee-nilee, any thoughts about my issue?
[07:25] <wilee-nilee> SoItBegins, Not really, if I did I would help.
[07:25] <SoItBegins> OK, thanks.
[07:25] <xmetal> better then a Miley Cirus version
[07:25] <rex123456> wilee-nilee, hm... alright. backup and reinstall will be faster
[07:26] <rex123456> thanks
[07:26] <xmetal> w/e @ the spelling
[07:26] <xmetal> :P
[07:26] <bazhang> !ot > xmetal
[07:26] <wilee-nilee> rex123456, NO problem, thats the easiest to make sure you have a good setup.
[07:27] <xmetal> lol oh geez
[07:27] <subby123_> i know this is ubuntu channel but pls if anyone knows this pls tell me......i m using a samsung galaxy grand... i have updated it to android 4.2.2 jelly bean ... i cant figure out why my dlna is crashing in my music player when i try to remotely control my pc through windows media player... it just shows a message "unfortunately your music player has stopped" ....pls help
[07:27] <Daughain> Does 13.10 come in an x86 flavor?
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> subby123_:  theres #android
[07:28] <bazhang> subby123_, #android
[07:28] <wilee-nilee> Daughain, 32 bit?
[07:28] <bazhang> Daughain, yes of course
[07:28] <Daughain> That too.
[07:28] <auronandace> subby123_: seriously, don't post here when you know it has nothing to do with ubuntu
[07:30] <subby123_> i know theres #android but they got nothng
[07:30] <bazhang> subby123_, its ot here
[07:30] <auronandace> subby123_: that doesn't make this channel an android help channel
[07:31] <subby123_> auronandace: will u just shut up...
[07:31] <auronandace> !guidelines | subby123_
[07:41] <jmgk> Dr_Willis,  WIll Ubutu have an mobile version ?
[07:41] <auronandace> !touch | jmgk
[07:41] <jmgk> oh wait
[07:41] <jmgk> no my bad
[07:41] <jmgk> Will Xchat have a mobile version
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> jmgk:  it allready does.
[07:41] <jmgk> ?
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> xchat. no idea
[07:41] <jmgk> no soah
[07:42] <jmgk> well I mean do you see IRC on a the desktop better than on a a phone ?
[07:42] <auronandace> jmgk: define better
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> I irc from my android phone with andchat, or a ssh terminal app - using weechat on my pc.
[07:42] <jmgk> well I mean more accurate
[07:42] <jmgk> the screens very bad on the eye for a mobile phone
[07:42] <auronandace> jmgk: there is more screen real estate on a desktop so you can see more text
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> i have very few issues ircing from my phone
[07:43] <jmgk> ok
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> a bluetooth or external keyboard is a must have ;)
[07:43] <jmgk> well Dr_Willis  I have a computer so...
[07:43] <LuvLinuxOS> Hi all
[07:43] <jmgk> I don't need that
[07:43] <LuvLinuxOS> I just blogged about Lubuntu 13.10 Please let me know what you think http://luvlinuxos.blogspot.com/
[07:44] <jmgk> thanks LuvLinuxOS
[07:44] <auronandace> LuvLinuxOS: please no advertising here
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> jmgk:  my phone and keyboard both fit in a pocket
[07:44] <jmgk> so?
[07:44] <jmgk> A computer is nicer
[07:44] <tozen> auronandace: click hunter ;)
[07:44] <jmgk> its what i grew up on :)
[07:45] <jmgk> Phones are good for things
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> jmgk:  try pen and paper... much nicer still.
[07:45] <jmgk> not everything
[07:45] <FloodBot1> jmgk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:45] <tozen> im on jailbreaken iphone irssi
[07:45] <jmgk> eh all rite Dr_Willis  I just prefer the good ol IRC
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> i recall mini-dos pc's in the 80's that fit in a pocket. ;)
[07:46] <tozen> Dr_Willis: spoton ;)
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> weechat has a gui front end for android that connects to weechat running on your pc.
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> running znc on your ubuntu box is also a handy ting to do to make ircing from a phone nicer
[07:46] <jmgk> hm yes
[07:46] <jmgk> but that drains battery life
[07:46] <tozen> Dr_Willis: proper dux fun hates ani GUIs lol
[07:46] <jmgk> I don't need to run Ubuntu while making a phone call
[07:47] <jmgk> IRC
[07:47] <sam113101> k1l: you're there?
[07:47] <tozen> *any
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> everythinjg drains battery life...
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> thats life
[07:48] <xmetal> i (on the distro i use) installed weechat (i think thats it) but even after clicking the icon, nothing would happen
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> xmetal:  run it from a terminal. I dont recall weechat haveing an icon here
[07:48] <xmetal> i am happy on hexchat or xchat (hex being a clone of x) though
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> weechat is a text/terminal based irc client
[07:48] <xmetal> just wanted to give it a try
[07:48] <xmetal> ah ha... maybe that was my issue
[07:48] <xmetal> lol
[07:48] <xmetal> woops
[07:48] <l9> irssi
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> if you want to try weechat. you WILL want to read its beginner/starter guides
[07:49] <tozen> 4me irssi is the best of all clients gals!
[07:50] <xmetal> eh .. i am happy with xchat
[07:50] <xmetal> :)
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> i find weechat better then irssi
[07:50] <tozen> Dr_Willis: why?
[07:50] <l9> ?
[07:50] <LuvLinuxOS> auronandace:  not advertising just spreading the word about the movement, sorry if you were offended!!!
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> tozen:  smart filters, script manager,  better scripting support, toggable filters,
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> better default setup
[07:51] <auronandace> LuvLinuxOS: i'm not offended but this is a support channel, you don't post blogs here
[07:51] <l9> Dr_Willis: how much scripts are needed with irc?
[07:51] <xmetal> !find weechat | xmetal
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> 19 depends on your needs
[07:51] <xmetal> oops
[07:51] <xmetal> !info weechat | xmetal
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> weechat has what amounts to a 'package manager' like commands for manageing scripts
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> with a text based gui even. ;) ncurses rules.
[07:52] <tozen> Dr_Willis: i dont know mayhap you have to use smth special.. 4me is enought with only one plugin bitlbee to get out of irc ;)
[07:53] <iceroot> is there a way to use something like a "trim-function" on all text-contents i am putting in my buffer (ctrl +v) so that all whitespaces at the start and end will be removed?
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> i dont use bitlbee but with the weechat /script command i can search for bitlbee scripts for weechat and instgall them and never leave the client
[07:53] <iceroot> ctrl +c of course to put it in the buffer
[07:53] <xmetal> now i am curious again
[07:54] <tozen> Dr_Willis:  good so we can get the balance in the Universe preffering opposite stuffs.. ;)
[07:54] <tozen> *prefering
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> weechat also has a qtfront end. but ive not used that.
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> !fixapt > dr_willis
[08:00] <tozen> !fixapt > tozen
[08:02] <Wayno> hi im having a issue with webmin iptbales its setting the deafult dir to /var/lib/iptables/active how to fix it so it to default /etc/iptbales.up.rules?
[08:02] <auronandace> !webmin | Wayno
[08:03] <WirelessBound> I have an Intel Wireless 7260 wireless card in a Yoga 2 laptop, meaning no wired connectivity is possible.  Post-installation, is adding the firmware for the wireless card as simple as dumping it into the /lib/firmware directory or are there additional steps I am missing?
[08:04] <Wayno> hmm i using it on 4 system 12.04.4 and works fine, just this machine is being really odd about it
[08:04] <Wayno> systems*
[08:05] <auronandace> Wayno: if you are having a problem with webmin we can't help, this channel doesn't support it
[08:05] <auronandace> Wayno: you could use an alternative
[08:05] <auronandace> !zentyal | Wayno
[08:05] <Wayno> thanks
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> one of the main issues with webmin is it dosent always handle config files properly. You could also search out the webmin support channels
[08:06] <Wayno> been searching for hrs already, not sure why this box is playing up
[08:09] <ubuntunewbie> Can someone help me with 13.10 upgrade
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> if its saveing files in the same format. you might just need to put in some sort of link to the right place. but if the formats are not the same..  that may be bad..
[08:09] <ubuntunewbie> The X is crashing
[08:09] <ubuntunewbie> I can login to the terminal though
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> ubuntunewbie:  the login screen  works or not?
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> the graphical login screen i mean
[08:10] <ubuntunewbie> Dr_Willis: No. upon boot I get a "Error has occured, Report problem" dialog
[08:10] <ubuntunewbie> the cursor is like 'X' at this stage
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> ubuntunewbie: so X is sort of starting.
[08:11] <ubuntunewbie> nothing happens after I click either buttons
[08:11] <ubuntunewbie> I can login to command line terminals 1-6 though
[08:12] <ubuntunewbie> Is there a way I can reinstall X from command line / repair ?
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> ubuntunewbie:  most likely its a video driver issue
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> but you havent mentiooned what your video card is yet. ;)
[08:14] <ubuntunewbie> Dr_Willis:  Its a dell inspiron laptop, Its been ages since I had video driver issues. been using / upgrading every ubuntu release since 10.04
[08:14] <benishor> hi there. after upgrading to 13.10 (from 13.04), indicator-session icon is missing, http://hq.scene.ro/session-indicator-missing-icon.png
[08:14] <benishor> can anybody help restoring it?
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> ubuntunewbie:   what video chipset its using would be a very importnat bit of info to have. lspci command will show you that.
[08:14] <benishor> I tried to purge session-indicator and reinstall it but to no avail
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> ubuntunewbie:  if a live cd for 13.10 works. it may be easier to just do a clean install
[08:15] <ubuntunewbie> LIVE CD works, but I am just lazy to setup the whole thing again
[08:15] <Wulf> Hello
[08:15] <tozen> ubuntunewbie: to install/reinstall xorg u can use sudo apt-get install xorg xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core
[08:16] <ubuntunewbie> tozen: thanks, will try now
[08:16] <Wulf> how can I activate "suspend if idle for 1 hour" for all users? Is there a configuration file? Or a command I can execute?
[08:16] <tozen> ubuntunewbie: to install/reinstall xorg u can use sudo apt-get install  --reinstall xorg xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core
[08:19] <tozen> ubuntunewbie: also mayhap some modules crashed so u can check exhaust of cat /var/log/boot.log as example
[08:20] <ubuntunewbie> tozen: have reinstalled and rebooting now. will check if its still the same
[08:22] <tozen> Wulf: what about?
[08:23] <sam113101> Dr_Willis: help me
[08:23] <bazhang> sam113101, ask the channel
[08:23] <tozen> bazhang: :)
[08:23] <Wulf> tozen: ?
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  with?
[08:24] <sam113101> Dr_Willis: that: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/154058855/Screenshot from 2013-10-17 19:29:30.png
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> care to give a small summary of the issue befor i go looking at images?
[08:25] <sam113101> why?
[08:25] <tozen> smartboyhw: corrupt link
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> guess i wont bother going to look at the image then.
[08:25] <bazhang> !here | sam113101
[08:25] <sam113101> the top bar is black but it should be beige
[08:25] <smartboyhw> tozen: what?
[08:26] <bazhang> sam113101, so change the theme
[08:26] <sam113101> it's as if both themes were in use
[08:26] <tozen> sam113101: link is corrupted
[08:26] <sam113101> just replace spaces
[08:26] <bazhang> sam113101, change to a third one, then back to the first
[08:26] <sam113101> bazhang: doesn't work
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> or reset all the user settings back to defaults perhaps.
[08:26] <smartboyhw> tozen: please stop annoying us.
[08:26] <tozen> smartboyhw: sorry my mistake
[08:26] <sam113101> Dr_Willis: doesn't work
[08:26] <xrfang> my 13.10 is missing mp3 and spark video decoder, it just told me so, but didn't attempt to install automatically, why?
[08:26] <bazhang> sam113101, create a guest user
[08:26] <benishor> I found the problem: system-devices-panel* icons that are being refered by indicator-session's service.c, are not available in the default icon theme. weird
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  prove it. make a new user. see if they have the same issue
[08:27] <bazhang> !work | sam113101
[08:27] <sam113101> bazhang: I did and the same thing happens
[08:27] <sam113101> it's random
[08:27] <sam113101> it doesn't *always* happen
[08:27] <bazhang> file a bug then sam113101
[08:27] <sam113101> if I log out and log back in it's alright
[08:27] <bazhang> !bugs | sam113101
[08:27] <sam113101> but I already did
[08:27] <sam113101> no one wants to help me
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> perhaps no one knows why its doing it
[08:27] <bazhang> sam113101, so wait and follow it up, be patient too
[08:28] <sam113101> ;_;
[08:28] <tozen> smartboyhw: doing tipe mistake isnt annoing smbd ive appologised to u already, calm down pal ;)
[08:28] <sam113101> I opened 3 bugs report but I think it's really just the same bug
[08:28] <sam113101> because they happen at the same time
[08:28] <ubuntunewbie> tozen: didn't help reinstalling. the log says automatic crash report generation after GNOME Display Manager
[08:28] <smartboyhw> tozen: My message was sent before you sent your apologies:P
[08:28] <bazhang> smartboyhw, move on
[08:29] <sam113101> could it be a problem with my graphic card driver?
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  very possible
[08:29] <sam113101> I'd like to have an error message or something
[08:29] <sam113101> but I have nothing
[08:30] <sam113101> can I relaunch the interface inside a terminal?
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> unity has graphical glitzs on my nvidia5500 that makes it basically unuseable. and the open source drivers are very slow
[08:30] <bazhang> sam113101, you've given us zero details. there is nothing to troubleshoot
[08:30] <Triple15_> http://pastebin.com/23T3B3sS
[08:30] <sam113101> it was working fine on 13.04
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  compiz --replace       perhaps.
[08:30] <Triple15_> i need help
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> Triple15_:  and the issue is?
[08:30] <Triple15_> ich brauche hilfe
[08:30] <sam113101> bazhang: I did give details
[08:31] <Wulf> Triple15_: ask your question, Kraut!
[08:31] <bazhang> sam113101, give us the *exact* theme names. the list of things you have tried. Pastebins of exact commands and pastebins of the errors
[08:31] <tozen> ubuntunewbie: so pastebin <cat /var/log/boot.log | less> please
[08:32] <sam113101> bazhang: radiance and ambiance
[08:32] <Rory> !de | Triple15_
[08:32] <sam113101> I tried creating a new user
[08:32] <sam113101> I tried reinstalling
[08:32] <bazhang> sam113101, all on ONE line
[08:32] <Triple15_> ok danke
[08:32] <sam113101> I tried changing the theme
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> if a new user has the same issue - that would point to a system wide problem. such as driver, or currupted configs
[08:33] <sam113101> but I did reinstall
[08:33] <sam113101> how can it be a corrupted config?
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> reinstall meaning  what exactly
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> a total reformat  clean install? or reinstgalled some packages
[08:35] <sam113101> I deleted partitions, created new ones and installed ubuntu on the new ones
[08:35] <tozen> ubuntunewbie: do you know how to pastebin from without GUI?
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> that would point to a driver, or kernel  or other weird system bug then
[08:35] <tozen> ubuntunewbie: do you know how to pastebin from console without GUI?
[08:36] <Triple15_> hallo, brauche hilfe, http://pastebin.com/23T3B3sS , ich möchte kubuntu auf ps3 haben.
[08:36] <sam113101> can I downgrade my graphic driver?
[08:37] <ubuntunewbie> tozen: no, I am not sure if that laptop is connected to network
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  what is your video chipset?
[08:38] <iceroot> what is a good way to diff 2 complete directories over ssh? i have to diff two different machines on /etc/
[08:38] <ubuntunewbie> tozen: If i do a install without formatting partition, would I lose my stuff (like home, network keys etc?)
[08:38] <Ben64> iceroot: what do you mean by diff
[08:39] <iceroot> Ben64: diff-viewer
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> ubuntunewbie:  a instgall without formating - may end up in a unuseable system also.
[08:39] <iceroot> Ben64: i have to find all differences in these 2 configs/machines
[08:39] <ubuntunewbie> Dr_Willis: oh!
[08:40] <Ben64> iceroot: well you can use rsync to see what files are different then diff those
[08:40] <sam113101> Dr_Willis: sorry, what did you say?
[08:40] <sam113101> everything crashed
[08:40] <Triple15_> i cant see the new HDD device on petitboot, /dev/ps3dd.
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  what is your video chipset? thats a critical bit of info
[08:41] <sam113101> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV730 PRO [Radeon HD 4650]
[08:42] <Ben64> Triple15_: uh, that's really not an ubuntu issue, you should check with whoever wrote that tool
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  check the forums and askubuntu.com to see if others have had issues with that chipset. also what video driver are you using? open sourced, or the fglrx
[08:42] <sam113101> open source (radeon I think)
[08:43] <iceroot> Ben64: i will have a look
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  tried the fglrx drivers?
[08:44] <sam113101> Dr_Willis: I tried to install it on 13.04 but it broke everything, I had to reinstall everything in the end
[08:44] <sam113101> and it was from the repo
[08:46] <Woodsman> I'm trying to debug a program I made with GDB. Every time I've done it in the past it hasn't had an argument vector, but now I need to specify in the argv which file it takes and some other parameters. How do I do that in GDB? I thought I could just do "gdb executable filename arg2 arg3" but that's not working for me
[08:47] <JohnSmith> Hi All, I've just wanted to record my desktop with Kazam, but after the countdown and it closes. I saw the icons on the panel for a second and it disappeared. Does anyone know why is that?
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> JohnSmith:  run kazam from a terminal. look for error messages perhaps and they will provide a clue
[08:51] <sam113101> Dr_Willis: "compiz --replace" does fix it (but obviously it comes back if I reboot my computer)
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  weird. so make compiz restart after a few seconds delay when you login as a dirty work around. ;)
[08:53] <sam113101> so iS IT A DRIVER BUG OR A COMPIZ/unity bug?
[08:53] <Dr_Willis>   ~/.config/autostart/    maje a script
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> make a script ;)
[08:53] <sam113101> sorry for the caps
[08:53] <sam113101> xmodmap is failing on me
[08:53] <xukun> hmm can seem to find the 13.10 mini iso
[08:53] <sam113101> obviously
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> or an icon on the desktop  - there used to be an indicator applet that could restart compiz also
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> !minimal
[08:54] <JohnSmith> error: In pixman_region32_init_rect: Invalid rectangle passed Set a breakpoint on '_pixman_log_error' to debug and then segmented error
[08:54] <sam113101> srsly
[08:54] <sam113101> is it a driver bug or unity bug?
[08:55] <xukun> Dr_Willis, thanks a lot
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  no idea.
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> if compiz restarting fixed it.. thats using the same driver.
[08:56] <sam113101> Dr_Willis: serious question, how smooth is the boot process to you?
[08:57] <sam113101> it flickers here, and I have a lot of glitches
[08:57] <sam113101> before I get to the desktop
[08:57] <sam113101> I wonder if it's the same for everyONE
[08:57] <sam113101> OR JUST ME
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  my desktop boots in like 20 seconds. i rarely see the loading screen
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> i also often disable pymouth so i rarely see the boot animation on any of my pcs
[08:57] <sam113101> Dr_Willis: me too man, I have a ssd
[08:58] <sam113101> but it shows weird colors
[08:58] <sam113101> like a broken graphic card
[08:58] <mapreri> I installed saucy on a USB key, but he refuses to boot, he gets stuck before grub appears. How can I check where is the problem? I already tried to reinstall grub...
[08:58] <sam113101> and black screens
[08:58] <sam113101> not as smooth as if I were booting on windows, for example
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> ubuntus bootup process is more complex.
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> i dont worry about it.
[08:59] <andry> some funny glitches and black screens are fine during boot
[08:59] <sam113101> andry: but it's not pleasant
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> use text mode if you dont want to see anything other then the leet text messages
[09:00] <andry> yea, no splash or something
[09:00] <sam113101> why is it this way, btw?
[09:00] <sam113101> is it because of X?
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> !plymouth
[09:00] <andry> video mode switching ie
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> limitations of plymouth and the X server
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> and how it uses initrd
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> i belive
[09:00] <sam113101> will it be better with mir?
[09:00] <wilee-nilee> mapreri, How did you try and reinstall grub? This is a full install?
[09:02] <mapreri> wilee-nilee: I reinstall grub using grub-install via chroot using the system installed on my PC. Yes, this is a full install of Ubuntu on the USB key. Thx for the answer :)
[09:02] <wilee-nilee> mapreri, Has it ever booted, this is a flash?
[09:02] <sam113101> is there a unity channel where I can ask about my bugs?
[09:03] <mapreri> wilee-nilee: No, I just install it, and it has never booted.... Obviously is a flash drive...
[09:04] <sam113101> #ubuntu-unity
[09:04] <sam113101> hopefully it won't be empty
[09:04] <wilee-nilee> mapreri, I would check the sum of the iso you used, it should run if all is good.
[09:04] <andry> unit
[09:05] <andry> wooops
[09:05] <andry> :)
[09:05] <cristian_c> Hi
[09:05] <andry> hi
[09:05] <mapreri> wilee-nilee: I checked the sha256 hash before using the iso, as usual
[09:05] <cristian_c> mapreri, hi
[09:06] <wilee-nilee> mapreri, A single install will skip grub, shift will show it, could it be a graphic driver is needed?
[09:06] <mapreri> cristian_c: hi! ;)
[09:06] <cristian_c> hi all, I found volume keys don't work well anymore
[09:07] <ickefes> hi people. what is the easiest way to install 13.10 on btrfs with glib/lzo compression during installation? my hard drive is slow so
[09:08] <cristian_c> for example, if I press the toggle key, the sound is muted. But if I press it again, the sound is no longer turned on
[09:08] <mapreri> wilee-nilee: I also try pressing shift, but nothing shows up. But if this is the case the system should boot, instead of getting stuck in a black screen...
[09:09] <Rory> ickefes: You would have to set up the partitions in advance, and then use the custom partitioning option during the installation to select the partitions you want to use
[09:09] <andry> i wonder if there is any brother beside firefox where you can set scroll pixels (speed)
[09:09] <ickefes> ok. so do i partition it to a btrfs in like say gparted before hand and during installation there is a quite easy way to select compression?
[09:09] <andry> brother :D i mean browser
[09:10] <ickefes> Rory: forgot to address my response to you
[09:10] <Rory> !btrfs | I'm not sure of the specifics, maybe this will help
[09:10] <cristian_c> even the keys to increase and decrease the volume does not work well: they do not reach the lower and upper limits (at least in the applet on the panel)
[09:10] <lucido> hello, I'm getting "unsupported" on my lcd after upgrading to 13.10, meaning my lcd can no longer support the resolution or refresh rate after the upgrade, what happened?
[09:10] <Rory> !lvm | ikonia
[09:11] <cristian_c> what might be the problem? What should I look for?
[09:11] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[09:11] <wilee-nilee> mapreri, I will assume you know when to press shift, a black screen is common with a missing driver though. You also must understand we never know the skill level of the other so we have to ask questions that may some uneeded to you.
[09:14] <mapreri> wilee-nilee: no worry about that, anyway, there is no need of weired graphic driver, since I use a lot of dristro on this PC, and I had never need of driver. (btw, I have to press shift after bios messages)
[09:14] <lucido> whqat changes in the graphical system that after upgrade that changes the resolution or the refresh rate in 13.10?
[09:15] <wilee-nilee> mapreri, You would know the driver situation, If it were me since it just wont boot I would try another install, since you chrooted to install grub, or maybe run the bootscript and look at it for errors.
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> lucido:  you could set up grub to use the text menu method. or change the res it trys to display - in /etc/default/grub
[09:17] <mapreri> wilee-nilee: what is bootscript?
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> lucido:  does it boot after a delay? or is the login screen also affected?
[09:18] <lucido> Dr_Willis, it boots but the graphical login screen is not visible since the lcd cant handle the resolution/refresh rate
[09:18] <tarelerulz> what is the room for Ubuntu mobile  os?
[09:18] <wilee-nilee> mapreri, It is on the bootrepair as the boot info summary or originally this http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/  bootrepair https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> lucido:  that is weird. since the X display is totally seperate from the grub menus display
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> !touch | tarelerulz
[09:20] <lucido> Dr_Willis, I did not enter into the grub menu, switching to console works after reboot
[09:20] <lucido> the problem is with x
[09:22] <lucido> Dr_Willis, console resolution is fine
[09:22] <mapreri> wilee-nilee: ok, I'm going to try it right now
[09:22] <arianit> upgraded to 13.10 and only the social network lens works. I can't get to the software from the dash. tried reinstalling but didn't help. any idea?
[09:23] <wilee-nilee> mapreri, feel free to post the script rl from the repair or a pastebin of the original if needed.
[09:23] <wilee-nilee> url*
[09:23] <lucido> Dr_Willis, I had a custom xorg conf because I have an old lcd tv that I connect to via a vga cable on an nvidia card, it worked fine until the upgrade
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> lucido:  cant say ive needed a custom xorg for my nvidia systems in years. ;P except to enable/tweak twinview.
[09:24] <wilee-nilee> arianit, to the software, no panel on left, no dash with the super key?
[09:25] <lucido> Dr_Willis, I did because the card couldn't sense the proper res/refresh
[09:25] <lucido> cheap lcd tv
[09:25] <lucido> but now the upgrade broke my setup
[09:25] <arianit> wilee-nilee, I get the dash, but only social messages lens is available.
[09:26] <wilee-nilee> arianit, on an earlier release I had an install that needed a reset to show the desktop correctly, you might try this. http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/reset-unity-and-compiz-in-ubuntu-13-10/
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> lucido:  try it without the xorg.conf yet?
[09:28] <lucido> Dr_Willis, it is disregarded anyways since the wrong signal is sent to the lcd bu I'll try
[09:29] <arianit> wilee-nilee, let me try that
[09:31] <ansu> I've got a question about ubuntus apt repository. How long does it take until a package is updated? for example subversion package is version 1.7.9 but the most recent one is 1.7.13...
[09:31] <ansu> talking about ubuntu 12.04
[09:31] <wilee-nilee> ansu, Impossible to say.
[09:32] <wilee-nilee> ansu, To mant independent developers and packages to have an actual time line, you would have to contact each one, unless there is some notice
[09:32] <wilee-nilee> many*
[09:32] <lucido> Dr_Willis, I get X now but it says "could not apply the stored configuration for monitors" and the screen is in 1024x768 (my lcd is 1366x768)
[09:32] <andry> has anyone ffmpeg installed from ubu repo and can check if it was compiled with libfdk_aac?
[09:33] <Dr_Willis> lucido:  try with a newly created user
[09:34] <ansu> wilee-nilee: but packages do get updated right? or are they only updated with a new ubuntu release?
[09:34] <Dr_Willis> !latest
[09:35] <mapreri> wilee-nilee: here is the report: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6269142/ as you can see I have a plenty of OS/partition on this disk. Actually I have only gnu/linux distros. The usb key is sdb, the system is on sdb1
[09:35] <wilee-nilee> ansu, If someone is working on them there may be updates, most are working for free and independent of dependencies that may be involved basically. What you want is a yes or no answer, what there is an continuum between those two points
[09:36] <mapreri> wilee-nilee: which way do you suggest me now?
[09:36] <lukey_> Hi Is there a way to add mount options to System Managed USB Devices that do not have entries in FSTAB? (They have entries in gnome-disk GUI and have tried changing them there but it changes the mount points and then fails fsck on reboot)
[09:36] <lucido> Dr_Willis, it seams that something has changed in the upgrade, that made the system not accept or interpret differently my custom xorg.conf. believe me I need a custom xorg.conf to get the correct resolution and refresh rate for my monitor. the question is, what changed in the upgrade that is related to this? I can post my xorg log
[09:36] <NameLegion> Hi all I have to do encryption ip address
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> lucido:  ive not had to look at a xorg  config or log file in years.    so cant really help there.
[09:37] <NameLegion> tor does not help
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> NameLegion:  you have to do what exactly?
[09:37] <lucido> Dr_Willis, thanks anyways
[09:37] <ansu> wilee-nilee I understand :) So if I want to have the latest version of a package I have to either rely on a 3rd party ppa or build it on my own?
[09:38] <NameLegion> hide ip address
[09:38] <Dr_Willis> NameLegion:  use a proxy, or vpn,  or on irc get a Cloak
[09:38] <Dr_Willis> !cloak
[09:39] <wilee-nilee> ansu, possibly yes.
[09:39] <NameLegion> thank you
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> !backports
[09:43] <wilee-nilee> mapreri, Heh, whole lot of OS's, does the OS that controls the sda grub boot show the sdb install in it's grub menu if you run a update-grub in that OS?
[09:44] <mapreri> wilee-nilee: let's me try
[09:44] <wilee-nilee> mapreri, The sdb1 drive looks to have the correct grub files to boot.
[09:45] <mapreri> I saw
[09:47] <wilee-nilee> mapreri, The grub boot on the sda HD if you know which OS has its grub in the mbr should boot the usb if bootable, I think you probably know this though.
[09:47] <galois_> help
[09:47] <azizLIGHTS> how much hdd space needed for install of ubuntu 13.10 desktop i386
[09:48] <mapreri> wilee-nilee: yes, but I need to boot the USB key in other PC...
[09:48] <wilee-nilee> galois_, sure, need a life vest?
[09:48] <wilee-nilee> mapreri, Sure but this is just a test if another grub will boot it.
[09:49] <galois_> wilee-nilee: just first using XChat IRC
[09:49] <mapreri> wilee-nilee: this is an updatr-grub: paste.ubuntu.com/6269230
[09:49] <mapreri> Not so good
[09:50] <emdub_> anyone familiar with debugging package dependencies?
[09:50] <emdub_> i am running a brand new saucy installation and the syslog-ng dependency chain seems to be broken, not sure why
[09:50] <wilee-nilee> mapreri, How many working OS's are actually there?
[09:52] <mapreri> wilee-nilee: there should be also precise and archlinux besides the ones listed on the link
[09:54] <wilee-nilee> mapreri, Yeah I see six on the script holding boot files and a windows entry formally on sda1, are you sure the OS you ran this update from has its grub in the sda mbr, you can make sure with sudo grub-install /dev/sda ; sudo update-grub
[09:55] <wilee-nilee> mapreri, I also notice you are rooted in the terminal on that update, are you running in root?
[09:56] <mapreri> wilee-nilee: no, the one I ran have grub installed on a partition. On the MBR I installed burg. But nothing should change, afaik
[09:57] <datandroiddude> what is the best broadcom driver that supports monitor mode?
[09:58] <wilee-nilee> mapreri, burg is just grub in drag still grub, (thats a joke) a whole lotta errors for sure and sdb is not seen, so a if it were me I would try installing on the usb again.
[09:58] <lucidooo> is there anyone who knows about xorg config files? I have a custom xorg.conf (need it because my lcd doesn't report it's correct capabilities) that worked fine in 13.04 but since upgading to 13.10 the lcd is incabable of displaying the output from x. Here's my conf file and my xorg log: http://pastebin.com/ruP3rCn3    What has changed in the upgrade that makes x output a different signal to my lcd with the sam conf file as before?
[09:59] <datandroiddude> does anyone know a broadcom driver that supports monitor mode?
[09:59] <wilee-nilee> mapreri, The OS running burg is the controlling OS though that would be where you would run the update to show sdb.
[09:59] <wilee-nilee> if you were to see it in the burg menu
[10:00] <wildc4rd> is there a basic image editor for ubuntu, an MSPaint equivalent, for when I can't be bothered with gimp.
[10:00] <sofias_> hello, there. i updated to saucy yesterday, and that broke some things. it uninstalled fglrx so the graphics were gone, but i fixed that. i still have no audio tho, lspci lists it as "00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH Azalia Controller (rev 01)" but it doesn't appear in mixer programs. may that be due to missing packages, too?
[10:01] <paulens12> hello
[10:02] <paulens12> i'm trying to use ubuntu 13.04 on a touchscreen, but i have some problems...
[10:02] <paulens12> when i boot, it's OK, i can control it with my finger... but after about 10-20 seconds the window manager stops responding to my touches
[10:03] <hitsujiTMO> paulens12: 13.04 touch support simply sucks. vast improvements to it in 13.10
[10:03] <paulens12> well, it works partially... for example, if i press the power button, i can interact with the power menu. if i touchthe screen wih 5 fingers, it opens the dash...
[10:04] <paulens12> hitsujiTMO, oh, well then i'll try 13.10 :)
[10:04] <paulens12> hitsujiTMO, can i install it over 13.04 without losing my programs and settings?
[10:04] <alami> hello, i have on my desktop Ubuntu about more then 2 years ago, and now i want to backup, reinstall, what's the best way to do it?
[10:04] <hitsujiTMO> paulens12: you can try anpgrade ... but back up everything first
[10:04] <subz3r0> !backup | alami
[10:05] <hitsujiTMO> !upgrade | paulens12
[10:05] <subz3r0> i recommend using rsync or if you need a gui try Lucky backup (its a frontend for rsync)
[10:05] <paulens12> hitsujiTMO, ok, so if i select "instal over ubuntu 13.04", it shouldn't delete everything?
[10:05] <paulens12> hitsujiTMO oh i see :D
[10:06] <sofias_> wildc4rd, have you tried mtpaint? seemed to be pretty good in pixel stuff. tze same authors made rgbpaint later but i didn't try that one yet…
[10:08] <the_drow> Hi, salt removed me from the sudoers group by accident. How do I add myself back? su root fails, sudo fails because my user is not in the sudoers group
[10:08] <azizLIGHTS> im trying ubuntu 13.10 in vmware, and it looks messed up. there is no left bar, nor panel at the top and things are flickering: http://i.imgur.com/hcNmM3P.png
[10:09] <andry> the_drow, usermod -a -G sudo username
[10:09] <the_drow> andry: but won't that require sudo?
[10:09] <andry> should be enough .. else sudo nano /etc/sudoers and add "yourname ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL" to the end
[10:10] <andry> oh sorry, got it wrong
[10:10] <the_drow> andry: I can't access sudo. There are no other users in the system
[10:10] <paulens12> he can boot into root shell...
[10:10] <andry> yes
[10:10] <paulens12> and use those commands from there
[10:10] <the_drow> andry paulens12 I'm using 13.10 how?
[10:10] <azizLIGHTS> another example of how horrible ubuntu 13.10 looks on my computer: http://i.imgur.com/7cfAoCO.png
[10:11] <paulens12> you need to select the option from grub
[10:11] <the_drow> paulens12: How do I get grub to appear?
[10:11] <azizLIGHTS> so... what is up with that? anyone help
[10:11] <paulens12> the_drow i think you need to press escape...
[10:11] <paulens12> while booting
[10:11] <paulens12> not sure though
[10:11] <the_drow> paulens12: nope. I get the login screen
[10:12] <wilee-nilee> azizLIGHTS, looks like missing graphic drivers
[10:12] <hitsujiTMO> the_drow: hold shift while booting
[10:12] <paulens12> oh, shift...
[10:12] <paulens12> xD
[10:12] <paulens12> ok
[10:12] <azizLIGHTS> i am on vmware wilee-nilee
[10:12] <azizLIGHTS> ubuntu doesnt write drivers for vmware?
[10:12] <paulens12> azizLIGHTS, try a live USB
[10:12] <the_drow> Still on the login screen
[10:12] <wilee-nilee> azizLIGHTS, I never used vmware.
[10:12] <paulens12> just put the ISO file as a DV?D drive in vmware settings
[10:13] <paulens12> DVD*
[10:13] <the_drow> hitsujiTMO: shift doesn't work
[10:13] <azizLIGHTS> yes... thats what i did
[10:13] <azizLIGHTS> it is the iso as a dvd drive in vmware
[10:13] <paulens12> oh
[10:13] <sofias_> is there some list of packets required for working audio on (x)ubuntu?
[10:13] <paulens12> azizLIGHTS, that's probably a problem with video drivers... try to mess with hardware settings in vmware
[10:14] <paulens12> there should be settings for video card
[10:14] <paulens12> the_drow, try a live USB
[10:14] <paulens12> the_drow, <andry> should be enough .. else sudo nano /etc/sudoers and add "yourname ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL" to the end
[10:14] <hitsujiTMO> the_drow: sorry, it's right shift
[10:14] <the_drow> hitsujiTMO: I tried to use CTRL+ALT+F1 and it won't let me log in as root
[10:14] <paulens12> the_drow, this method should work, you just need to add the mount point to the path
[10:15] <paulens12> the_drow or just find the file through nautilus (from live usb), that should be simpler..
[10:15] <the_drow> yay I can boot into grub
[10:15] <hitsujiTMO> the_drow: root account is inactive ... you need to boot as single user mode(rescue mode) or boot a live cd to fix
[10:16] <the_drow> man that computer boots fast
[10:18] <the_drow> it won't let me edit the soduers file from grub
[10:18] <the_drow> it says the file is readonly
[10:19] <geirha> yes, because /etc/sudoers should never be edited directly
[10:19] <andry> mount -o remount,rw /
[10:19] <andry> then you can edit
[10:20] <subz3r0> geirha: hmm? why it should never be edited?
[10:20] <andry> failsafe console mounts readonly
[10:20] <subz3r0> its not the /etc/shadow...
[10:20] <the_drow> andry: wait what? I'm not using the live cd yet
[10:20] <andry> in the recovery console you are in now, just enter this mount command to mount the partition read-write
[10:21] <geirha> subz3r0: It's what visudo is for. visudo copies the current file to a temp file, starts your favorite editor on that file, and when you close the editor, it does a syntax check on the new file before copying it over the original
[10:22] <subz3r0> geirha: ahh yes. just forgot that :)
[10:22] <geirha> If there's any syntax errors in /etc/sudoers, sudo won't work, at all.
[10:22] <subz3r0> geirha: but ofc youre right. just did not remember, since im working mostly with debian atm. and there is no sudo installed on the machines :)
[10:23] <the_drow> thanks!
[10:26] <andry> :)
[10:28] <xOrHctiW> how can i install a ubuntu mini in hdd?
[10:29] <shauntablet> What is ubuntu mini?
[10:29] <kurcina> hi how to set do dowanload all from english and not my country leanguge i hate when i download some soft and it is on my languge
[10:29] <Sendoushi> from what i know. ubuntu mini may be mobile
[10:29] <Sendoushi> ?
[10:30] <xOrHctiW> sory ubuntu minimal
[10:30] <andry> just .. burn the minimal iso and install? :)
[10:30] <andry> you cannot install from usb ... well, there is a workaround someone posted in the forums, but i have not tested it yet
[10:31] <kurcina> anyone how to set to just download form English mirors and not my country mirors
[10:31] <kurcina> f u
[10:31] <xOrHctiW> ya,but its bare bones,no gui for instaling
[10:31] <andry> the english mirrors would download the same software, you need to change your ubuntu locales to en i think
[10:32] <hitsujiTMO> xOrHctiW: you need to use the ubuntu server cd
[10:32] <kurcina> andry,  so i need to set thet i am from englad if i want english but thet will f up my time zone
[10:33] <andry> you can change the timezone after that
[10:34] <kurcina> so evry time i instal softwer i have to change my locales?
[10:34] <xOrHctiW> hitsujiTMO didnt think of that,thanx
[10:34] <subz3r0> kurcina: it depends what you mean with "english" servers. The Localization of the system.  Means the language or the server locations itself. if its the server location, you can change them a) by editing the /etc/apt/sources.list or b) with the updatemanger (options)
[10:34] <hitsujiTMO> kurcina: why do you want to download from the english mirrors? its the same content, just gonna take you longer to download from them
[10:34] <andry> no, just change it once and keep it
[10:35] <kurcina> beacuse somthime when i download i get softwer on my nativ languge and i used to english languge on PC
[10:35] <yeats> !locale
[10:36] <yeats> kurcina: I don't think the location of the mirror makes a difference - just set your locale to English and you're done
[10:36] <andry> yes
[10:36] <andry> and change the timezone afterwards
[10:36] <yeats> locale shouldn't affect timezone either
[10:36] <kurcina> ok ty
[10:36] <andry> shouldnt, yes :)
 locale DOESN't affect timezone either  --- FTFY!
[10:37] <SteveBell> Hi all, I'm stuck with  a toshiba nb-305 (105) netbook booting into a black screen on ubuntu 12.10. I did
[10:37] <SteveBell> •	when in grub, select ubuntu and hit "e“
[10:37] <SteveBell> •	highlight  ubuntu entry
[10:37] <SteveBell> •	press 'e'
[10:37] <SteveBell> •	remove 'quite splash nomodeset' from kernel line
[10:37] <FloodBot1> SteveBell: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:37] <SteveBell> •	then ctrl+x to boot
[10:37] <yeats> hitsujiTMO: FTFY?
[10:38] <hitsujiTMO> fixed that for you
[10:38] <hitsujiTMO> :P
[10:38] <andry> :D
[10:38] <mapreri> wilee-nilee: OK. I managed to try on a friend computer. Here works good. I don't understand why my computer sucks sometimes... :|
[10:38]  * nongeek hello all
[10:39] <nongeek> I joined my Linux to windows domain but I can't login to the Linux it show me "Could not update ICEauthority file /home/test/.ICEauthority"
[10:39] <wilee-nilee> mapreri, Thats good, there were errors in the grub update so there does seem to be problems there not sure exactly what though.
[10:40] <wilee-nilee> mapreri, Best luck I have to crash here. ;)
[10:41] <nongeek> any idea?
[10:41] <andry> anyone every built his wifi driver into the kernel?
[10:42] <andry> everytime i build my wifi cards driver into the kernel ubuntu cannot see it until i pull it out and back in
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> andry:  as a module would be more commonly done. because you an then pass options to it whenit loads i reall.
[10:42] <shauntablet> nongeek check file permissions
[10:42] <andry> yes, i was thinking about that too
[10:42] <andry> i better let it outside
[10:43] <nongeek> shauntablet: I change permission too but problem not solved
[10:43] <nongeek> shauntablet: My Linux is joined to windows domain but how can I use my Windows username and pass in Linux?
[10:43] <shauntablet> Sorry haven't tried that before
[10:44] <shauntablet> Only done cifs or smb connections but not on a domain
[10:45] <nongeek> is it possible?
[10:45] <shauntablet> Usually DOMAIN\USER
[10:45] <shauntablet> Dunno
[10:45] <nongeek> not worked :(
[10:45] <yeats> !samba | nongeek
[10:46] <andry> they released a more stable samba the past days
[10:46] <SteveBell> seems no one knows. got to go now. will try later to resolve that freakin netbook 12.10 issue. cu
[10:47] <nongeek> ubottu: I know it and I joined my linux to windows network but I can't login to the Linux
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> nongeek:  you gave the linux user a samba password?  (sudo smbpasswd -a username) ?  i never used  windows domains either. just basic samba stuff here.
[10:52] <andry> i remember there was a great prop. tool to join you easily into the domain, but cannot remember its name
[10:52] <bekks> nongeek: How did you setup LDAP auth?
[10:53] <nongeek> bekks: I setup kerberos and configure it to read my AD
[10:53] <nongeek> bekks: My linux can read my AD users and group but I can't login to the linux
[10:54] <bekks> nongeek: Did you make changes to PAM?
[10:58] <nongeek> bekks: Can you help me?
[10:58] <nongeek> I don't know
[10:58] <bekks> nongeek: You need to configure PAM to auth against LDAP.
[10:58] <nongeek> bekks: OK, Can I send Pm?
[10:59] <nongeek> bekks: How can I configure it?
[10:59] <arunkumar413> created a new theme in in the .themes folder of home directory. But advanced settings is not showing the theme which i've created
[11:01] <bekks> nongeek: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryHowto
[11:02] <nongeek> bekks: I will read it and if i have any question, I will ask
[11:02] <nongeek> bekks: Can I talk to you via PM?
[11:03] <bekks> nongeek: There is no need to contact me by pm, just ask in this channel.
[11:03] <nongeek> OK, Thank you
[11:04] <Anaki> hey guys
[11:05] <zipper> Can I get pelican and Markdown via the ubuntu repos and not through pip install?
[11:05] <zipper> I don't find the need for virtual env since ubuntu has the default python version as 2.7.3
[11:05] <Anaki> Ofc I have a question: I have ubuntu 12.04 64bit installed. But I only have 512MB RAM, and I'm too lazy to buy RAM. So can I somehow install Ubuntu 32bit without a CD?
[11:06] <shauntablet> Anaki $20 will double you ram no?
[11:06] <Anaki> true
[11:06] <Anaki> but I want no new RAM atm
[11:07] <shauntablet> Usb
[11:07] <Anaki> For windows there is a windows installer, right? Is there nothing like that just for linux?
[11:08] <shauntablet> Yea i don't think so
[11:08] <shauntablet> Strange
[11:08] <Anaki> :/
[11:08] <shauntablet> Maybe in wine :-)
[11:09] <Anaki> u think that would work? windowsinstaller with wine? o0
[11:09] <roothead> 0hai
[11:09] <Anaki> hi
[11:10] <shauntablet> No but it might, not sure how exactly the windows installer wroks
[11:10] <jackbrown> if I change the value into the file /sys/devices/platform/asus-nb-wmi/leds/asus\:\:kbd_backlight/brightness I'm able to modify my Backlight Keyboard I would lime to remap FN+F3 or F4 to regulate it  HELP PLS?==?^^
[11:11] <roothead> Is there any official name for a combo of SpaceFM icon engine and Fluxbox?
[11:12] <shauntablet> jackbrown check out xbindkeys
[11:12] <Valdus> all:  anyone know of any cool/useful expresscards? trying to find something more intersting than extra usb ports
[11:12] <jackbrown> shauntablet:  where?
[11:12] <shauntablet> Google
[11:12] <jackbrown> ok
[11:12] <shauntablet> Sorry on tablet
[11:13] <roothead> Shaun, there are SD/CF multi-readers that go into the 3.5 slot on the front
[11:13] <roothead> I have one on my PC
[11:13] <roothead> The thing has a USB port and 4 different card slots
[11:14] <roothead> In the modern day, 3.5 slots are rarely used
[11:15] <roothead> My PC has two 3.5 slots, one occupied by the reader, and wide slots, one occupied by the CD drive
[11:16] <bekks> roothead: A CD is larger than a 3.5"slot.
[11:16] <vooze> I have a big problem with fstab.. I can't seem to mount 2 of my 3 drives.. Before format they worked perfect.. Now they just wont mount from fstab.. They automount to /media/ insted.. even /dev/sdc1 + 2 + 3 mounts in /media (and thats the /home and / drive) What am I doing wrong?? Using ubuntu 13.04 minimal http://paste.ubuntu.com/6269618/
[11:16] <roothead> bekks: That's it, so there are two slot widths.
[11:17] <vooze> I commented all the "non working" lines out.. they have all been testet
[11:17] <roothead> The smaller slot width is now rarely used, but I have one small slot occupied by cardreader (four memcard types and USB slot)
[11:19] <roothead> Bekks, if you're on a X86 desktop, chances are you gotta have either a welded-in 3" drive or at least one narrow slot, be that slot occupied or not
[11:19] <roothead> x86 or x86-64 desktop*
[11:20] <roothead> Though some PPC boards use much the same onboard peripherals as many X86 ones and go in same kind of case.
[11:24] <shauntablet> Hah what about my ARM desktop or my SPARC or AS/400 desktop :-)
[11:27] <bekks> shauntablet: which sparc? :)
[11:29] <roothead> IDK of SPARC, ARM might have same kind of mobo/case. In fact, the two slot widths were established before PC CD-ROMs became common - for 3" and 5" drives
[11:31] <roothead> but, is there an official name for SpaceFM+Fluxbox desktop? Or is it just "Antix Desktop Environment"?
[11:32] <roothead> SpaceFM is a fork of PcManFM
[11:32] <eimis> hi. I'm using ubuntu 12.04 with 3.2.0-54-generic kernel. problem: "cat: /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch: No such file or directory" So GPU switching is not possible. Can you help?
[11:35] <andry> anyone else noticed that windows that you snapped to the side (or whereever) cannot be properly maximized with a click on the max button?
[11:36] <roothead> andry, October release?
[11:36] <andry> 13.04
[11:37] <roothead> Never had this problem in spring release
[11:37] <andry> not a big thing :) but strange
[11:38] <shauntablet> My nas really
[11:38] <roothead> you can press CTRL+WIN+Up to maximize
[11:38] <bekks> or doubleclick the top border.
[11:38] <andry> oh ok, was a bit too lazy to search for the shortcut, tought it was ctrl+alt
[11:38] <andry> thanks
[11:39] <roothead> andry, it's Aero Snap but with CTRL added to avoid MS attack
[11:39] <bekks> shauntablet: You have a NAS with a sparc processor?
[11:40] <roothead> andry, but I prefer Alt+F10 like IceWM does
[11:40] <shauntablet> Yeah well its sparc architecture chip if I'm remembering correctly its a readynas duo
[11:40] <roothead> but I can't figure how to register an icon engine to work with IceWM
[11:41] <shauntablet> Sarge linux
[11:41] <roothead> that is, register them together as a session
[11:41] <shauntablet> Was old debian
[11:41] <bekks> shauntablet: My apoologizies then. I feared it is a Netgear, indeed.
[11:41] <shauntablet> Yea
[11:42] <shauntablet> Not doing that again
[11:42] <roothead> antiX, another Debian-Testing based distro, goes with 10 pre-registered sessions
[11:43] <roothead> 4 WMs, 3 registered with either of the icon engines or with no icon engine
[11:43] <shauntablet> Its been fine as a nas goes though just not fun compiling apache to try and get svn working
[11:43] <roothead> SPARC = Stupid Processor Architecture
[11:44] <roothead> :l
[11:44] <shauntablet> Indeed
[11:44] <zipper> Why would python-pelican not show up in apt in my computer?
[11:44] <shauntablet> Bad filesystem on these too
[11:45] <bekks> shauntablet: The FS works well.
[11:45] <shauntablet> Some stupid block size can't be easily read once that board dies
[11:45] <roothead> Zipper, what year/month?
[11:45] <shauntablet> Yeah so far so good but fear the dayb
[11:45] <bekks> shauntablet: I have backups.
[11:46] <roothead> For every GB of HDD space you have, you need 4 GB of backup
[11:46] <shauntablet> U got rooms in your rooms
[11:46] <Thoams_> Whaaaat.
[11:47] <bekks> shauntablet: No. I am just not insane and have backups :) Data without backups is data not worth keeping.
[11:47] <roothead> yes, two backups, two copies of each
[11:47] <Thoams_> Because you're base64 encoding all your backups.
[11:47] <Thoams_> roothead: Explain yourself damn it!
[11:47] <Thoams_> oh.
[11:47] <shauntablet> Well my nas is the backup
[11:47] <bekks> shauntablet: So you have another copy.
[11:47] <shauntablet> So if i backed that up
[11:47] <bekks> shauntablet: If the backup dies, just create a new.
[11:47] <shauntablet> Yeah also git
[11:48] <shauntablet> On aws
[11:48] <TKing> please i need advise while updating from 13.04 to 13.10, update-manager froze and i rebooted. but i can't access the login screen or desktop? on reboot i get tking@root
[11:48] <shauntablet> And some on github
[11:48] <roothead> The only data I need is my passwords stored on my Google acc
[11:48] <eimis> hi. I'm using ubuntu 12.04 with 3.2.0-54-generic kernel. problem: "cat: /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch: No such file or directory" So GPU switching is not possible. Can you help?
[11:48] <shauntablet> But what about those music videosmfrom the 90s
[11:50] <roothead> Two backups - in case one turns out bad (contaminated/conflicting), two copies of each backed-up state
[11:50] <roothead> Else it's an invitation to disaster
[11:51] <shauntablet> Well the nas is Raid 1 but don't think they can be read outside the enclosure
[11:51] <TKing> is it possible to rewind upgrade of 13.10 to 13.04? During upgrade things froze on hard-reboot i can,t see anything
[11:52] <bekks> roothead: its pretty easy living without data not worth to be backed up ;)
[11:52] <roothead> tking, no you can't rewind. Reinstall 13.04.
[11:53] <roothead> Also, 13.10 turns to be a buggernaut to me
[11:53] <roothead> ghosts of menus on background in GNOME and such
[11:53] <roothead> and general slowness
[11:53] <roothead> April 13 was nicer
[11:54] <roothead> maybe I'm just a brainless piece of cr@p
[11:54] <yeats> roothead: are you filing bugs?
[11:54] <yeats> !bug
[11:55] <roothead> No, I just tend to flee the buggernaut like a drowning ship. Not worth running about drawing a scheme of the leaks
[11:55] <roothead> also, what makes me mad at Ubuntu in general is lack of built-in freq scaler
[11:56] <shauntablet> I went to kde recently
[11:56] <roothead> I prefer KOpenbox to KDE/Plasma
[11:56] <TKing> roothead, i have files i need to backup, i fresh install would affect all my files, installed softwares etc? any idea to fix the problem?
[11:56] <bekks> TKing: You would have to backup everything, yes.
[11:56] <yeats> TKing: boot into the installer and move your files to external storage
[11:57] <roothead> TKing, move your files away using a rescue CD
[11:57] <yeats> TKing: but you should be doing that regularly anyway, esp. before an upgrade
[11:57] <shauntablet> Yea clonezilla
[11:57] <bekks> or tar, rsync, bacula, or whatever.
[11:57] <roothead> TKing, I'd advise using a cloud-centric OS instead - say, Jolicloud
[11:58] <xXxEvaxXx> Hi
[11:58] <shauntablet> !clonezilla
[11:58] <shauntablet> Awe
[11:58] <eimis> xXxEvaxXx: hi
[11:58] <roothead> Hi, xXxEvaxXx. What's the issue?
[11:58] <chrmhoffmann> after upgrading to saucy, I have an issue with freshclam cron entry
[11:58] <chrmhoffmann> i get an email with "connect(): Permission denied"
[11:59] <chrmhoffmann> i checked and was able to run [ -x /usr/bin/freshclam ] && /usr/bin/freshclam --quiet >/dev/null
[11:59] <chrmhoffmann> without issue from the commandline with sudo -u clamav
[11:59] <chrmhoffmann> what could be the problem?
[11:59] <yeats> chrmhoffmann: which user runs the cron?
[11:59] <roothead> Don't upgrade 'till EVERYTHING is backed up, then do a CLEAN INSTALL of the new stuff instead of ovelay-upgrade
[12:00] <chrmhoffmann> yeats, 35 */1 * * *    clamav [ -x /usr/bin/freshclam ] && /usr/bin/freshclam --quiet >/dev/null
[12:00] <chrmhoffmann> i guess it's clamav?
[12:00] <roothead> maybe prepare a setup script for after the clean install
[12:00] <yeats> chrmhoffmann: which user's crontab?
 Also, 13.10 turns to be a buggernaut to me < pretty much what i think of .10 for now :P
[12:00] <xXxEvaxXx> Where are you from ??
[12:00] <andry> i will wait for some packages upgrades and try again
[12:00] <andry> -s
[12:01] <yeats> andry: make sure to report bugs - it helps everyone
[12:01] <chrmhoffmann> yeats, I don't know.
[12:01] <cfhowlett> !topic|xXxEvaxXx, this isn't a social channel.
[12:01] <andry> yeats, sure, the ones i found were already reported :)
[12:01] <yeats> andry: good
[12:01] <roothead> People aren't keen on bug reporting, they'd rather just run to safety of the old-and-trusty build.
[12:01] <chrmhoffmann> yeats, I got the email from root@myhost
[12:02] <yeats> roothead: no room to complain if you don't report bugs, though
[12:02] <roothead> So, best experience was Ku1204
[12:02] <andry> well, the most annoying stuff was x-related anyway
[12:02] <yeats> chrmhoffmann: are you able to pastebin the full email?  (remove any private data first)
[12:03] <roothead> Leanest Pastebin of them all - http://paste.ubuntu.com
[12:03] <chrmhoffmann> yeats, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=SW2VdYgx
[12:03] <shauntablet> Ah the trusty ol 6 month old software, let me dust this puppy off
[12:05] <roothead> Ku1204 is the peak for me, but I freakin' hate the lack of a freq scaler OOTB
[12:06] <roothead> Waiting for Ku1404 LTS and hope it will be a good build, not a stinky buggernaut on a stick
[12:07] <roothead> Maybe by then I'll have the PC fixed/replaced and won't need the scaler
[12:07] <shauntablet> Naw always need the scalar
[12:07] <Carsekyx> Are there any known issues with nvidia and 13.10?
[12:07] <shauntablet> Manually doing it is a pain
[12:07] <TKing> yeats how do i boot into the installer?
[12:08] <yeats> chrmhoffmann: this looks relevant: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/permission-denied-between-clamav-daemon-and-amavisd-new-on-ubuntu-9-04-a-722668/
[12:08] <yeats> TKing: boot from a live CD/USB?
[12:08] <roothead> GPUs are an issue when it comes to Linux, better stick to old games' remakes. That's it, Carsekyx
[12:08] <TKing> yeats USB
[12:08] <andry> is clamav in the amavis group?
[12:08] <Carsekyx> roothead, not even for games just general use.
[12:09] <andry> and amavis in clam
[12:09] <yeats> TKing: boot from USB and select "Try Ubuntu without installing" - you should see your computer's disk in the file manager
[12:09] <roothead> Carsekyx: I said, GPUs are an issue with Linux. Stick to low-end stuff. Heck, for NVIDIA I'd go with Lynx instead of Firefox
[12:09] <chrmhoffmann> yeats, I have clamav in amavis group and also the AllowSupplementaryGroups
[12:09] <andry> oh sorry, that is what it says in the link, too :P
[12:10] <chrmhoffmann> looks rather some sort of cron issue.
[12:10] <aliyar> is there a way to expand the system partition without restart and boot from live disk ?
[12:10] <yeats> chrmhoffmann: ok - sorry - that was my best guess - you might check your system logs for further clues?
[12:10] <roothead> go X-less with Nvidia chipsets.
[12:10] <chrmhoffmann> yep. will do. thanks, yeats
[12:10] <yeats> aliyar: nope
[12:10] <shauntablet> aliyar no
[12:10] <aliyar> ok thx
[12:11] <roothead> NVIDIA is a flippin' curb when it comes to Linux... and even to OGL on WIndows
[12:11] <hitsujiTMO> Carsekyx: there's no real issues in 13.10 with nvidia ... upgrade process does tend to mess up tho
[12:12] <chrmhoffmann> yeats, could you look at this please? it seems it's apparmor?
[12:12] <chrmhoffmann> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=kykH8AdM
[12:12] <roothead> Linux is more robust but it comes at a hefty price
[12:12] <shauntablet> Got a 670 gtx but haven't upgraded yet
[12:12] <Carsekyx> hitsujiTMO, fresh install but every attempt seems to kill unity beyond recognition
[12:12] <hitsujiTMO> Carsekyx: can you paste your xorg.0.log
[12:13] <Carsekyx> hitsujiTMO, I've only had this install up for like 20 minutes, do you still want it?
[12:13] <hitsujiTMO> please, what driver are you using?
[12:13] <roothead> Carsekyx: Get IceWM and SpaceFM, register them as a combined desktop environment, use that
[12:13] <roothead> :D
[12:13] <roothead> Unity screwnity
[12:14] <shauntablet> Kde4life :-)
[12:14] <andry> chrmhoffmann, i disabled apparmor too when i configured dovecot, postfix and clamav/spamas.
[12:14] <roothead> Kopenbox4life
[12:14] <shauntablet> Haha recent convert really
[12:14] <andry> i run into a lot of problems and did not want to modify the apparm profiles
[12:14] <chrmhoffmann> i think it was working before upgrading to saucy
[12:15] <Carsekyx> hitsujiTMO, https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7068734
[12:15] <roothead> Suicidal salamander*
[12:15] <andry> chrmhoffmann, maybe a reinstall/reconfig of apparmor (and its profiles) can fix it too
[12:15] <roothead> really, suicidal
[12:15] <yeats> !behelpful | roothead
[12:16] <ultim8> Hi. I just installed playonlinux, opened the program and it says An updated version of playonlinux is available. Ubuntu software center doesn't recognize it.
[12:16] <ssj5goku> I have recently tried ti create a live usb and tried to boot it but instaed of booting a message appears that "reeboot and select a proper bokt device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key"  and  it wont just go... what should I do. .. I am using windows and ubuntu as dual boot.....pls help..
[12:16] <shauntablet> ssj5goku bios settings or get a dvd
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> ultim8  close software center and try    sudo ap-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:18] <ultim8> MonkeyDust, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[12:18] <yeats> chrmhoffmann: not sure what exact lines need to be added to apparmor's clamav profile, but that looks like the direction you need to go in
[12:18] <hitsujiTMO> Carsekyx: i see no errors in the log at least, if you're having trouble i would suggest to try and switch to the proprietary drivers
[12:18] <chrmhoffmann> the /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.freshclam is from Oct  8  2012 usr.bin.freshclam
[12:18] <chrmhoffmann> so that looks quite old...
[12:19] <yeats> chrmhoffmann: it probably just needs a single "r" line added for something in amavisd
[12:19] <yeats> not sure which file(s) it needs to read though
[12:20] <roothead> I'm easily irritated, so if I see issues with the build worse than mine, I tend to come up with wacky comments like Suicidal Salamander, Tripping T-rex, Ugly Unicorn, Vomitting Viper, Weird Wolf, Zombified Zebra
[12:20] <Carsekyx> hitsujiTMO, but how? I got additional drivers from the store and it found nvidia drivers and I installed them and after reboot I just got a black screen and nothing would happen. When I tried to restart unity it gave me a compix (?) error.
[12:20] <yeats> roothead: better to do that in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:21] <ultim8> MonkeyDust, any advice?
[12:21] <hitsujiTMO> Carsekyx: this is a little out of date but should give you a good idea: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[12:21] <sherkin> Hello there
[12:21] <MonkeyDust> ultim8  no, as i don't use Wine
[12:22] <shauntablet> !compiz
[12:22] <sherkin> I'm using xchat-gnome, and I can't disable autojoining the ubuntu channel. What's wrong ?
[12:22] <hitsujiTMO> Carsekyx: is it a laptop or desktop?
[12:23] <sherkin> Is xchat-gnome patched for ubuntu ?
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> sherkin  better ask in #xchat
[12:24] <sherkin> Thanks for answering MonkeyDust, I just did. Patch was the answer
[12:25] <sherkin> I think it is a serious issue
[12:25] <TKing> due to messed up UEFI in the past, i am unable to boot from USB. Is there a way to lauch it from terminal?
[12:25] <shauntablet> Modify the source
[12:25] <hitsujiTMO> Carsekyx: if you're running a laptop with nvidia optimus have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[12:26] <Carsekyx> hitsujiTMO, it's a laptop. A Toshiba Satellite
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> sherkin  if it's really disturbing you, consider using another irc client
[12:26] <k1l> sherkin: xchat-gnome is a xchat version wich has reduced settings etc to meet the gnome style and settings guidelines. if you want the "real" gnome install the xchat without that -gnome
[12:27] <hitsujiTMO> Carsekyx: what nvidia gpu is it?
[12:27] <sherkin> Thanks k1l. I think what decided me was the sound notifications, are they available in xchat ?
[12:28] <k1l> sherkin: yes of course
[12:28] <foofoobar> Hi. Do use special keeys like volume up/down I need to press the FN key on my laptop keyboard
[12:28] <foofoobar> How can I invert this ?
[12:28] <Carsekyx> hitsujiTMO, GeForce 450M I think
[12:28] <TKing> from grub> how do execute livecd
[12:30] <sherkin> Ok I'm going to try. I think this autojoin feature is a bad flaw.
[12:31] <hitsujiTMO> Carsekyx: i do beleive optimus was introduced in 500 series ... so bumblebee will be no good ... just install the prop drivers
[12:31] <Carsekyx> using additional drivers?
[12:34] <hitsujiTMO> Carsekyx: yes, have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia also contains some additional tweaks for xorg conf for laptops if black screen
[12:34] <Carsekyx> hitsujiTMO, thanks for your help. I've got a friend running me through installing the drivers through the command line. Hopefully I won't have to start everything again but I might be back haha
[12:37] <BluesKaj> "morning folks
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> BluesKaj  other timezone ;)
[12:38] <BluesKaj> MonkeyDust. yeaah ,EDT
[12:39] <BluesKaj> MonkeyDust. 8:40 AM here
[12:39] <MonkeyDust> 2:40 pm here
[12:40] <hitsujiTMO> BluesKaj: go back to bed
[12:40] <BluesKaj> nope.sun's up hitsujiTMO, time to start the day :)
[12:40] <emmanuel> doko
[12:41] <TKing> how do i start grub.cfg from the grub prompt i am using ubuntu startup disk
[12:42] <TKing> how do i start grub.cfg from the grub prompt i am using ubuntu startup USB
[12:42] <ultim8> BlueShark, good point)
[12:43] <BluesKaj> TKing. choose the kernel and hit "e" to edit
[12:44] <sherkin_> #xchat
[12:46] <neure> hi
[12:46] <TKing> BlueaKaj how do i do it?
[12:46] <neure> im trying to install 13.10 in virtualbox, but installer keeps telling me I need x86-64 CPU
[12:48] <TKing> I want to backup my system since all is corrupt and cant boot to login screen or even LIVEusb. I only have grub prompt what can i do?
[12:49] <nick____> I use luatex. after upgradethe dynamic memory manager have problems. It ask me to increase buffsize when compiling.
[12:49] <ssj5goku> Can anyone pla help me on my previous question
[12:50] <BluesKaj> TKing. ok , then you need to , do ctrl+alt+F1 to F6 , then login and run an upate and upgrade
[12:50] <ssj5goku> My internet connection was down
[12:50] <Walex2> TKing: use a recovery CD/USB
[12:51] <Walex2> TKing: it is practically impossible that you cannot boot a liveCD or a USB stick.
[12:52] <Guest49050> hello, where can i get help with mbr related problems? ;x
[12:52] <testO33kk> Hi. I have got a very long text like this : http://vpaste.net/59rbZ   and I want to change all the lines to be like this text file:  http://vpaste.net/2gemH    so how can I do it by VIM!?
[12:53] <ssj5goku> How can I get my history for this chat
[12:53] <TKing> BluesKaj ctr+alt+1 to 6 didn't work
[12:54] <Helias> Hello guys, I want to put a program to the repo of Debian and Ubuntu, how can I do?
[12:55] <BluesKaj> TKing. did you try ctr+alt+F1 first then F2 etc?
[12:55] <TKing> BlueaKaj yes i did
[12:55] <TKing> BluesKaj yes i did
[12:56] <ssj5goku> Anyone pls hlp me
[12:57] <BluesKaj> TKing. and the media /usb image doesn't boot in "try ubuntu " ?
[12:58] <lost-unfount> Greetins
[12:58] <TKing> BluesKaj, yes, it doesn't. I removed WIndows 8 in the past and since then i had problem after installing Ubuntu? i never got the try ubuntu screen because the bios boot options has ubuntu as first and changing it takes no effect
[12:59] <Max-Might> how do I start the upgrade process to upgrade to 13.10? (I have Ubuntu Gnome 13.4 and dont have update-manager installed)
[12:59] <BluesKaj> !uefi | TKing
[13:01] <BluesKaj> Max-Might. open a terminal and runa normal update and dist-upgrade first then , sudo do-release-upgrade
[13:03] <Max-Might> BluesKaj: will do, thanks :)
[13:03]  * sherkin is back with real xchat
[13:03] <Sagitt> hi, i've a problem with apache 2 and zoneminder. i've updated to 13.10 (new installation). before the update i've to do: ln -s /etc/zm/apache.conf /etc/apache2/conf.d/zoneminder.conf
[13:03] <Sagitt> now i've to do: ln -s /etc/zm/apache.conf /etc/apache2/conf-available/zoneminder.conf and ln -s /etc/zm/apache.conf /etc/apache2/conf-enabled/zoneminder.conf
[13:04] <Sagitt> but now if i restart and edit /etc/apache2/httpd.conf with ServerName localhost, if i try to enter in the zoneminder webpage. won't work
[13:04] <Sagitt> why?
[13:05] <Hackwar> hi folks, if I wanted to have a media server: XBMC or PlexMediaServer?
[13:05]  * sherkin thinks the ubuntu version of freenode channel is confusing
[13:06] <jrib> Sagitt: i don't know about zoneminder but you may be interested in using the a2enmod command instead of creating symlinks directly
[13:06] <babble> Hey all: I'm in Ubuntu 13.04 and the top panel clock is showing "No date yet" and selecting dates in the calendar is disabled. What should I do to fix?
[13:07] <Sagitt> jrib: ? a2enmod what is?
[13:08] <jrib> Sagitt: it is a command that automatically creates links from conf-available to conf-enabled
[13:08] <Sagitt> well, wait. i'll try
[13:08] <jrib> Sagitt: it should not make a difference, it might just make your life easier (type less)
[13:09] <Sagitt> jrib
[13:09] <Sagitt> how i can create links for zoneminder with a2enmod ?
[13:09] <RishabhTatiraju> I have an issue here, Software Updater hangs after finishing update check
[13:09] <RishabhTatiraju> I cannot upgrade to 13.10
[13:09] <RishabhTatiraju> :/
[13:10] <TKing> BluesKai In your BIOS, disable QuickBoot/FastBoot and Intel Smart Response Technology (SRT). If you have Windows8, also disable FastStartup.  All this options are not available on my PC
[13:10] <TKing> BluesKaj In your BIOS, disable QuickBoot/FastBoot and Intel Smart Response Technology (SRT). If you have Windows8, also disable FastStartup.  All this options are not available on my PC
[13:10] <Sagitt> jrib: sagitt@SAGITTSERVER:~$ a2enmod zoneminder
[13:10] <Sagitt> ERROR: Module zoneminder does not exist!
[13:11] <RishabhTatiraju> I tried leaving Software Updater overnight, no change, gave the process high priority, CPU jumps to 100% but no change, it remains hanged. Is there a way from the terminal that i can install 13.10, without using Soft Updater
[13:11] <RishabhTatiraju> ?
[13:12] <jrib> Sagitt: ls /etc/apache2/conf-available
[13:12] <Sagitt> there is not zoneminder
[13:12] <jrib> Sagitt: but didn't you run the ln command before/
[13:13] <Sagitt> root@SAGITTSERVER:/home/sagitt# ls /etc/apache2/conf-available
[13:13] <Sagitt> charset.conf            localized-error-pages.conf    security.conf
[13:13] <Sagitt> javascript-common.conf  other-vhosts-access-log.conf  serve-cgi-bin.conf
[13:14] <RishabhTatiraju> will "do-release-upgrade" command do the work?
[13:14] <jrib> Sagitt:  ln -s /etc/zm/apache.conf /etc/apache2/conf-available/zoneminder.conf     should have created a file there
[13:14] <Sagitt> yes
[13:14] <Sagitt> i done it now
[13:15] <TKing> please how can i boot a live USB from grub >
[13:15] <Sagitt> now there is zoneminder.conf
[13:15] <Sagitt> but a2enmod zoneminder do the same
[13:16] <ssj5subhashish> I had created a live usb andcwhen I reebooted the pc it showed me an error message "Reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key" ...and the pc w0ont judt start.... what shouldvi do....pls help
[13:17] <RishabhTatiraju> anybody?
[13:19] <metawolf> So i was wondering if ubuntu 13.10 has any overheating protection? I have a slim model laptop with an nvidia geforce gt620m(and an intel hd 4000, using optimus) which can generate a reasonable amount of heat when gaming. Yesterday i was playing Nexuiz with my friends and all of a sudden my laptop shutdown, first showing me the ubuntu splash screen.
[13:20] <metawolf> I rebooted and started the game again, and everything was working perfect. Until some time has passed, and it shutdown again.
[13:20] <bekks> metawolf: Your hardware needs to have overheating protection, software cant do it.
[13:21] <metawolf> So it was just a coincidence that ubuntu shutdown?
[13:21] <TKing> how do i boot my LiveUSB from grub> prompt since its my only option to access the liveUSB. i did it before with some similar commands like, insmod -l, (hd1, gpt2) its old but things would have changed as i cant remember how it worked
[13:21] <metawolf> Or did the hardware signal ubuntu that it was overheating?
[13:21] <bekks> metawolf: No. The hardware told the OS using ACPI to shutdown immediately.
[13:22] <metawolf> Oh, now i understand. thank you for responding!
[13:24] <biondo34> ciao
[13:24] <biondo34> !list
[13:26] <Laif_> Hi
[13:26] <Laif_> How can I make Google Chrome .Deb install in Ubuntu 12.04?
[13:26] <Laif_> it says libgcc1 is wrong version
[13:27] <bekks> Laif_: run sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade, to update to current versions of packages.
[13:27] <Laif_> system is fully updated
[13:28] <Laif_> even sudo dpkg -i won't work with sudo apt-get install -f
[13:29] <bekks> Laif_: Please pastebin the full outputs. I am running latest chrome on 12.04 without problems.
[13:29] <TKing> how do i boot my LiveUSB from grub> prompt since its my only option to access the liveUSB. i did it before with some similar commands like, insmod -l, (hd1, gpt2) its old but things would have changed as i cant remember how it worked
[13:29] <Laif_> Dependency is not satisfiable: lib32gcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1)
[13:29] <bekks> Laif_: Thats one line, and not the full output.
[13:30] <Laif_> you want the sudo dpkg -i output?
[13:30] <bekks> Laif_: If want the full outputs of  dpkg -i  and  apt-get install -f
[13:30] <bekks> Laif_: Please use a pastebin service.
[13:30] <Laif_> mom
[13:31] <TKing> how can i boot LiveUSB
[13:32] <TKing> how can i boot LiveUSB it wouldn't boot on startup no matter what i did, but works on other PC
[13:32] <bekks> TKing: Insert the USB, boot from it using, by choosing "USB Boot" from the BIOS boot order.
[13:32] <Laif_> http://pastebin.com/cpdjhtmG
[13:32] <axisys> keyboard works for xterm but not for firefox or gnome-terminal.. what gives?
[13:32] <Laif_> there :)
[13:32] <TKing> bekks, that us selected
[13:33] <bekks> Laif_: Do you have a 64bit system?
[13:33] <Laif_> no
[13:34] <Laif_> 32 bit
[13:34] <max> хехей
[13:35] <max> всем привет
[13:35] <cfhowlett> !ru|Guest58230,
[13:35] <odra> Hey :D
[13:36] <Laif_> hi :)
[13:36] <odra> The audio on my pc is broken, when I put it on max it seems to be beyond the value it should be and it starts going off and back on
[13:36] <Laif_> any ideas bekks?
[13:36] <Lope> i've got an intel + nvidia laptop. just using whatever open source drivers came with linux mint 15 x64 (running mate). how can I make sure the nvidia is off?
[13:36] <odra> How do I fix it? :(
[13:36] <th3pun15h3r> anyone else using gnomenu on ubuntu 12.04? if so did you just add the ppa or have to install from source or know of a deb package?  trying to fix mine on awn
[13:37] <th3pun15h3r> Lope, why not use the nvidia? its much better than intel
[13:37]  * th3pun15h3r so wants a laptop with a nvidia card
[13:37] <Lope> i want to use minimum power
[13:37] <th3pun15h3r> Ah kk
[13:37] <Laif_> intels drivers are actually pretty nice
[13:37]  * odra has a intel card
[13:38] <th3pun15h3r> ya you can add the intel ppa
[13:38] <Lope> how do I check what gfx drivers I'm using?
[13:38] <odra> Onboard lower-than-the-ground end intel card.
[13:38] <th3pun15h3r> im favoring nvidia in regard for gaming though
[13:38] <Laif_> which ubuntu version are you using?
[13:38] <th3pun15h3r> you can check in your details
[13:38] <Laif_> ah yeah. nvidias binary drivers are great :)
[13:38] <odra> I just upgraded to 13.10 I need help fixing up my audio :(
[13:38] <odra> When I put the volume on max it goes off and on and off and on
[13:39] <odra> I think maybe my drivers don't know their upper limit.
[13:39] <babble> Hey all: I'm in Ubuntu 13.04 and the top panel clock is showing "No date yet" and selecting dates in the calendar is disabled. What should I do to fix?
[13:39] <th3pun15h3r> damn it, gnomenu ppa is a 404 not found.
[13:39] <th3pun15h3r> blargh
[13:45] <Lope> I'm downloading the latest intel open source drivers in hopes of using less power on my intel-nvidia laptop (uses 24w idle at the moment) ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/intel-graphics-updates how can I make sure my nvidia chipset is powered down?
[13:45] <TKing> how can i boot LiveUSB it wouldn't boot on startup no matter what i did, but works on other PC
[13:46] <tozen> TKing: u have to chenge bios settings
[13:47] <tozen> *change
[13:47] <bekks> TKing: And you have to disable secure boot in case it is enabled.
[13:47] <Basil1x> OK... Ubuntu13.10.  I installed the Xfce desktop, and it played with all my icons.  I've restored the ones on Unity, but those on the topbar are still wrong.  Also, I want to restore my bootsplash to 'Ubuntu' instead of 'Xubuntu'.
[13:48] <tozen> Basil1x: boot splash can be desable/enable configuring /etc/default/grub file
[13:48] <tozen> Basil1x: and dont forget to activate sudo grub-update after all
[13:49] <Basil1x> That's perfectly charming.  I have absolutely no Idea how to manage that, or what the original files were called in any case.
[13:51] <tozen> Basil1x: well <sudo nano /etc/default/grub> then fund string with GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=""
[13:51] <TKing> bekks, i have read everything possible online, disabled secure boot, enable it done everything from forums and help from here years back and today? but 1 way that always worked is to access grub.cfg from the USB that is the only magic so anyone know how i can get into /boot/ in my usb?
[13:51] <SunTsu> Yay, do-release-upgrade blocks SIGWINCH therefore resizing a terminal window when e.g. inspecting a config file change the term won't be notified about the new size, effectively keeping vimdiff from showing info in more than the 24x20 window dimension I started do-release-upgrade in
[13:52] <tozen> Basil1x: change it to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="splash" then trl+O -->> Enter -->> Ctrl+X -->> Enter
[13:53] <tozen> Basil1x:  and <sudo grub-update> after all
[13:53] <faugusztin> Basil1x: sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth
[13:53] <Basil1x> Right!  Thanks
[13:53] <faugusztin> Basil1x: if you want to swap xubuntu for ubuntu or other theme
[13:53] <Star-Flower> have there been many problems reported with upgrading?
[13:54] <faugusztin> Basil1x: after that sudo update-initramfs -u
[13:56] <Basil1x> Perfect!  Thanks, hons... now... about those icons...
[13:56] <d-egg> Hi, I am wondering what starts gpg-agent and how can i configure it to write the env-file (something changed in saucy obviously)
[13:58] <bekks> TKing: You do not need to touch grub at all for telling your computer to boot from USB.
[13:58] <bekks> TKing: You need to have a bootable USB.
[14:00] <Raphael> hi
[14:00] <JohannesTN> Hello folks, when installing xbmc by following this wiki http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Installing_XBMC_for_Linux#Ubuntu which I think should install xbmc 12.2, all I am getting is xbmc 11.9 april 24 2012 - does anyone know why it ain't installing the latest verion of xbmc? - thank you
[14:01] <MonkeyDust> i have that too: usb boots on one laptop, not on the other, even after changing the BIOS
[14:01] <tiina> Hi I cant install a new clean ubuntu installation or update and upgrade Maverick I now have on my ubuntu computer??
[14:01] <Raphael> I'm dual booting Ubuntu and windows 8 and seemed to install it successfully, but it doesn't boot to anything any more. so I'm reinstalling it using"something else". what mount points should i prescribe to everything?
[14:01] <auronandace> JohannesTN: why don't you want to use the version in the repos?
[14:03] <JohannesTN> Actually I thought that xbmc 12.2 was the newest in the repos as it is the version you'll get if you install xbmcbuntu
[14:03] <tozen> Raphael: r u sure u steel have windows partition left?
[14:03] <axisys> keyboard is working now.. I needed to change the input method from default to none in Language Support
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> !u | tozen
[14:04] <auronandace> !info xbmc | JohannesTN
[14:04] <megabraker> !g | megabraker
[14:04] <Raphael> tozen: yes. i have a list of partitions and there is a windows recovery, boot, and main partition, and an Ubuntu boot and main partition
[14:04] <Dudytz>  hi all! how to disable the "auto mount" of usb devices? or if possible, how to define the default location of usb storage mount? (another path than /media/[label]
[14:05] <Raphael> I've mounted the main Ubuntu partition as /, what should i set as /boot?
[14:05] <tiina> Hi I cant install a new clean ubuntu installation or update and upgrade Maverick I now have on my ubuntu computer??
[14:05] <JohannesTN> I would like to install version 12,2 as is is listed as "Current stable release" at xbmc.org, how can I do it?
[14:06] <bekks> tiina: you can do both.
[14:07] <auronandace> JohannesTN: installing software from outside the official repos means that we can't support that here, just so you are aware
[14:07] <tozen> Raphael: so / is moint point for main system files /home could be another partition for your home folder so you'll be able to keep in safe place important docs, audio or videos
[14:07] <tozen> *mount
[14:07] <RayZa> Hey there! Is anyone running Ubuntu 13.10 with fglrx?
[14:08] <tiina> bekks DOSENT FUNCTIONING??? in my maverick how to update and upgrade Maverick?
[14:08] <tozen> Raphael: not really needed to split them that way, pal
[14:08] <JohannesTN> I am aware of that, does that mean you won't help me figure out how to install it then?
[14:08] <bekks> !eolupgrade | tiina
[14:08] <Raphael> i don't care about that, I'm fine with having /home in /, i just want to boot, what should i set as /boot?
[14:08] <Meris> Which version/ variant like Lubuntu, Xubuntu can I run on my Intel MacBook from 2007? It needs to be able to boot from the CD and that can be a bit tricky, because it does not support all bootloader modes. I want to run it beside MacOSX, using the BootCamp partition which had WinXP installed on it.
[14:08] <bekks> Raphael: you dont need a separate /boot
[14:08] <tiina> DOSENT HELP HAVE TRIED
[14:09] <bekks> tiina: Then you have to reinstall
[14:09] <kostkon> tiina, do a clean install then. backup your files first, dont forget that
[14:09] <tiina> DOSENT WORK EITHER???
[14:09] <yeats> !caps | tiina
[14:09] <tiina> yeah
[14:09] <tozen> Raphael: i recomend you to dont place /boot separately
[14:09] <Basil1x> Top right of the screen, where my little system button is, the icon for it has gone, to be replaced by what looks like a red Ø in a box.  How can I get my gear icon back?
[14:09] <Raphael> bekks thanks, so i should just set / and not set anything else as anything else and just install?
[14:10] <yeats> tiina: did you ever figure out if your BIOS supports USB boot?
[14:10] <bekks> Raphael: Yes.
[14:10] <tiina> Have tried nothing is correct beacuse of 404 error
[14:10] <Raphael> cheers
[14:10] <bekks> tiina: 404 where?
[14:10] <tiina> Yes dosent help either!
[14:10] <bekks> tiina: Our glass orbs are quite dusty today.
[14:10] <tiina> when I tried to update and upgrade maverick
[14:10] <Dudytz>  hi all ... by default all the plugged usb devices are auto mounted in /media/[label of the partition] ... it's possible to define a specific rule for a specific device? eg. mount a specific usb hard drive to a custom location
[14:11] <auronandace> Raphael: swap partition is also recommended but not strictly necessary
[14:11] <bekks> tiina: and "doesnt work" and "doesnt help" are - just generic statements and do not tell anything about failures, errors, etc.
[14:11] <tozen> auronandace: if RAM is over 4Gigs
[14:11] <tiina> how can I update and upgrade Maverick then???
[14:11] <yeats> tiina: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#Upgrade shows how you would upgrade from Maverick
[14:12] <tiina> Have read that yet nothing seems to help
[14:12] <auronandace> tozen: if you want to suspend/hibernate (i never remember which) you need swap that is at least the same size as ram
[14:12] <cfhowlett> tiina, highly advise you to torrent the release you want (12.04 is supported for 5 years) and clean install.
[14:12] <yeats> tiina: did you change your sources list?
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> tiina  and you can't fresh install a newer release?
[14:13] <yeats> MonkeyDust: (s)he apparently isn't able to boot from USB or CD
[14:14] <tozen> auronandace: agreed
[14:14] <reisio> auronandace: both "suspend" and "hibernate" are generic terms for different degrees of "sleep" :p
[14:14] <reisio> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Configuration_and_Power_Interface#Global_states
[14:14] <reisio> you could refer to them precisely by the s#, but then of course nobody would know what you meant, heh
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> reisio  suspend saves to ram, hibernate saves to disk, it's not the same thing
[14:15] <reisio> 'hybrid sleep' is what everyone wants anyways
[14:15] <reisio> MonkeyDust: who said it was
[14:16] <tiina> MonkeyDust: No anything at all not the new one or update or upgra the old one...
[14:16] <korisnik> how to run clojure (clj) file on ubuntu?
[14:17] <reisio> korisnik: install 'clojure'?
[14:17] <Meris> Which version/ variant like Lubuntu, Xubuntu can I run on my Intel MacBook from 2007? It needs to be able to boot from the CD and that can be a bit tricky, because it does not support all bootloader modes. I want to run it beside MacOSX, using the BootCamp partition which had WinXP installed on it. It has 2GB of RAM, an Intel Core Duo 2 at 1.2GHz, Intel GMA950 GPU and a 320GB HDD
[14:17] <reisio> korisnik: particular Lisp interpreter
[14:18] <auronandace> !mac | Meris
[14:18] <reisio> Meris: I'd go with the latest version you can get
[14:18] <korisnik> reisio, i installed leiningen
[14:18] <Meris> auronandace, thx for the link
[14:19] <reisio> korisnik: so?
[14:20] <TKing> bekks, i have a bootable USB it works on other pcs except this one
[14:22] <tozen> TKing: you got expected solutions already... ;)
[14:22] <TKing> bekks i understand, i have done secure boot off and on but it never solves the problem. One guy helped me solved this around January i used, commands like insmod, ls -l , boot/grub.cfg and when i hit escape i got to the try ubuntu screen
[14:23] <Meris> reisiso, last time I tried that, the CD didn't boot, because of the limited boot loader support on a Mac of that era. Lucid Lynx (10.04), the latest decribed OS on the Mac-specific help pages of Ubuntu is a bit too old to run safely.
[14:23] <TKing> tozen no solution yet, i got this problem when i tried to update to 13.10 which got stock
[14:24] <jurassik> hi all
[14:24] <TKing> pls how can i load kernel from USB
[14:24] <jurassik> who knows why i dont have new GUI in my xubuntu?
[14:25] <reisio> jurassik: new?
[14:25] <Meris> jurassik, please elaborate
[14:25] <tozen> jurassik: so what you have now?
[14:25] <zteam> Hi all
[14:25] <odra> Hey :(
[14:25] <cfhowlett> zteam, greetings
[14:26] <reisio> yo
[14:26] <odra> My audio is broken, help :u
[14:26] <odra> When I put the volume on maximum it starts turning off
[14:27] <zteam> Is there any way to enable drag and drop in Ubuntu 13.04, (so dash maximize the window, of the application I tries to drop my file too)?
[14:27] <zteam> cfhowlett, greetings
[14:27] <zteam> :-)
[14:28] <zteam> in Windows that is super easy, but I never been able to do that with Ubuntu
[14:28] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[14:28] <jurassik> zteam there is programm for that !
[14:28] <silv3r_m00n> on my ubuntu server, /var/log/syslog is empty, why ?
[14:29] <silv3r_m00n> isnt it supposed to fill up
[14:29] <zteam> jurassik, sounds good, do you know the name of that application /package?
[14:30] <jurassik> mmmm i dont remember look for it in google
[14:30] <jurassik> or in Software Ubuntu Service
[14:31] <c107> Where can I get all the system art for Feisty Fawn?
[14:32] <reisio> c107: which art?
[14:33] <c107> reisbo: icons, wallpaper, GDM theme -- everything.
[14:33] <c107> reisio
[14:33] <reisio> well the easy way would be to download a copy of Ubuntu 7.04, wouldn't it
[14:34] <munerf> hello, after updating to 13.10, I lost internet access
[14:34] <c107> reisio: I have an ISO.  I may boot into it and come back.  Does it run from a flash drive?
[14:35] <munerf> hello, after updating to 13.10, I lost internet access, can you help me debug it?
[14:36] <zero1> hello all, I recently installed ubuntu-gnome 13.04, yet when I run screenfetch it lists my DE as Unity 7.0.0 (I also had to turn off amazon search, etc) is this normal or did I somehow end up with an ubuntu installation from an ubuntu-gnome iso?
[14:36] <zteam> jurassik, I have googled for it
[14:36] <reisio> c107: you can probably make it do so, with the likes of unetbootin
[14:36] <reisio> c107: you can also just mount it, & unsquashfs it
[14:37] <cfhowlett> c107, there should be an official page with the art on ubuntu - at least that's the case with ubuntustudio
[14:37] <TKing> I tried this and it is not working http://askubuntu.com/questions/21342/how-can-i-load-ubuntu-when-all-i-have-is-grub how can i load ubuntu if i only got grub
[14:38] <c107> reisio how do I Mount it? it seems to pull up in an archiver in trisquel (gnome3fallbavk). I had a bootable drive before, erased the Trisquel files and copied the Parabola files from the opened ISO. it worked. do this with feisty iso?
[14:39] <reisio> don't know what trisquel or parabola are :)
[14:39] <c107> reisio trisq is Ubuntu. parab is arch
[14:39] <paulo_> boa tarde
[14:40] <c107> FSF approved
[14:40] <jurassik> zteam and what he is saying ?
[14:40] <c107> ola paulo_
[14:40] <reisio> c107: and you want to do what now?
[14:40] <zteam> jurassik, well so far I didn't find much...
[14:40] <zteam> jurassik, only a bug-report claiming it worked in 11.04
[14:41] <c107> reisio: install feisty art on trisquel or arch
[14:41] <c107> *parabola
[14:41] <zteam> jurassik, it feels like I'm looking for some compiz plugin but I don't know
[14:41] <jurassik> zteam, fuck i need to dont forget =) i just fucking cant =( i sow that yestoday
[14:42] <andry> hm .. just noticed the mark/middle-click clipboard :P
[14:43] <TKing> can someone work me through loading a try ubuntu cd from grub or load the kernel if grub> is the only option? my bootable doesn't work due to some complicated reasons which is unsolvable. I just need help from commandline as it is the only thing that would work
[14:43] <zteam> jurassik, not anything you saw in the browser?
[14:43] <smrp> Hi, I am using 13.04 I have moved my Minimize, Maximize and close buttons to the right using gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences button-layout ':minimize,maximize,close'  any idea how to get them back to the left? lol...
[14:44] <c107> Ō, reisio.
[14:44] <Seveas> smrp: same command, but move the ':' to the end
[14:44] <xgeek-cub> hello
[14:44] <jurassik> zteam, and in Ubuntu Software Center?
[14:44] <xgeek-cub> which one is better BFQ scheduler or Deadline ?
[14:44] <andry> TKing, can you boot the cd and then do this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[14:44] <TKing> can someone work me through loading a try ubuntu cd from grub or load the kernel if grub> is the only option? my bootable doesn't work due to some complicated reasons which is unsolvable (UEFI). I just need help from commandline as it is the only thing that would work
[14:44] <smrp> Seveas: Thank you :-)
[14:45] <Seveas> xgeek-cub: depends on the workload. *C*FQ is good for desktops
[14:45] <reisio> Seveas: also close,minimize,maximize
[14:45] <Seveas> reisio: could be. I haven't had the buttons there for more than 2 minutes :)
[14:45] <xgeek-cub> Seveas: what happens if i am a desktop and i use BFQ?
[14:45] <reisio> Seveas: sorry wrong person :)
[14:45] <reisio> smrp: also close,minimize,maximize
[14:46] <reisio> xgeek-cub: you conquer the world
[14:46] <TKing> andry its a liveUSB sorry. UEFI give me real problem. I have followed everything.. but lenovo is a problem. The link you gave me didn't solve the problem
[14:46] <andry> hm uefi :/ dont know sorry, didnt use it for my new pc
[14:46] <xgeek-cub> reisio: point being?
[14:47] <zteam> jurassik, well, I did first searching in synaptic, and didn't find anything....
[14:47] <c107> hahahaha all my hardware is from 2009. I have never seen UEFI
[14:47] <reisio> xgeek-cub: nothing happens, you have a different scheduler
[14:47] <zteam> jurassik, but a search in software center points me to desktop-preferences
[14:47] <Seveas> xgeek-cub: dunno, never heard of it. Quick googling says it's CFQ+cgroups for more control. Should be fine
[14:47] <xgeek-cub> doess bfq speed up the processes
[14:48] <moppy> where has the 'show desktop' launcher icon gone on saucy? i upgraded and lost it.
[14:48] <TKing> andry, i hate to mention UEFI because it diverts what i request? a way to boot kernel or run grub.cfg something like that from terminal
[14:48] <andry> moppy, didnt you but it there with unity-tweak-tool? :)
[14:48] <Seveas> xgeek-cub: only one way to find out: test and measure/
[14:48] <andry> put*
[14:48] <zteam> jurassik, never mind, it was just a file mananger :p
[14:48] <kostkon> moppy, have to reenable it in appearance
[14:49] <zteam> moppy, install Unity-tweaker from software-center, there is a option to get it back with that I thinlk
[14:49] <dingo_> i am trying to set my terminal. right now echo $TERM returns 'screen'. i have tried sudo update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator, i select option 4, for me xterm. no luck term is still screen
[14:49] <Seveas> moppy: ccsm (compiz-config-settings-manager) can put it back for you
[14:49] <moppy> andry: kostkon zteam seveas thanks all i will have a look for it. truth be told i do not remember how it got there.
[14:49] <dingo_> google for terminal and screen returns lots of non relevant results
[14:50] <c1072> Where on Ubuntu.com is Feisty icons, wallpaper, GDM?
[14:50] <Seveas> dingo_: err, you're doing it wrong :)
[14:50] <kostkon> c1072, feisty?
[14:50] <xtriz> how can i remove the the partially downloaded files during the update ?
[14:50] <kostkon> c1072, you mean the art from 7.04?
[14:51] <c1072> kostkon, yes.
[14:51] <Seveas> $TERM is set by the terminal emulater, it's merely an indication of capabilities. Why do you want to change it/what are you trying to achieve?
[14:51] <dingo_> Seveas: really, lol, i think i got that  much
[14:51] <kostkon> c1072, find the package that contains them and then download it from here http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[14:52] <kostkon> c1072, package(s) and then you'll need to extract not install it
[14:52] <cfhowlett> c1072, and then save the artwork on your ubuntuone or similar resource!  I've done so with all the Ubuntustudio art ...
[14:52] <dingo_> Seveas: well i want to change it from screen to xterm for no reason other than i want to.
[14:52] <Seveas> dingo_: in that case, use this command: export TERM=xterm
[14:53] <is_null> wow, 13.10 is so less responsive than 13.04
[14:53] <Seveas> and to make that permanent, add it to your ~/.bashrc
[14:53] <is_null> ie. i press Super+1 and it
[14:53] <xtriz> how can i remove the the partially downloaded files during the update ?
[14:53] <c1072> looking, kostkon. thx
[14:53] <is_null> takes so long to switch window, sometimes it just spawns the launcher
[14:53] <Seveas> xtriz: what update?
[14:53] <is_null> even vim takes more time catching Esc
[14:53] <jurassik> who knows why i dont have new GUI in my xubuntu? i meat this search tool
[14:54] <jurassik> who knows why i dont have new GUI in my xubuntu? i mean this new cool search tool =(((
[14:54] <kostkon> jurassik, could you show us a screenshot
[14:55] <dingo_> Seveas: thank you. i googled and read around but never saw that simple command.
[14:55] <cfhowlett> jurassik, screenshot
[14:55] <zteam> What do you guys think of Ubuntu 13.10 by the way?
[14:56] <zteam> Is it a nice upgrade?
[14:56] <jurassik> hm.. how i can show it to you?
[14:56] <cfhowlett> !paste|jurassik, screenshot then paste
[14:56] <jurassik> file:///home/jurassik/Desktop/Screenshot%20-%20201013%20-%2015:55:44.png
[14:57] <cfhowlett> jurassik, yeah, that's useless.  use imagebin.org
[14:57] <TKing> how do i list msdos mode
[14:57] <jurassik> ? what is wrong?
[14:58] <jurassik> explain
[14:58] <kostkon> jurassik, i dont see any search tool in the latest xubutnu http://xubuntu.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/xubuntu-13.04-desktop.png
[14:58] <cfhowlett> jurassik, you pasted a link to YOUR machine.  NOT an image
[14:58] <kostkon> jurassik, is it supposed to be on the desktop somewhere?
[14:58] <cfhowlett> jurassik, put it on imagebin.  get the imagebin link and post it here
[14:58] <kostkon> damn it's 13.04
[14:59] <jurassik> yes on the desktop where u have all your software ! it should be like transperrant search tool what u have in ubuntu
[14:59] <kostkon> jurassik, you mean the... dash?
[15:00] <cfhowlett> jurassik, lens is on unity.  xubuntu doesn't use unity.
[15:00] <cfhowlett> !dash
[15:01] <jurassik> thats baaad
[15:01] <dingo_> Seveas: still says screen inside tmux. so i assume this is a tmux issue?
[15:02] <kostkon> jurassik, xubuntu is a lighter alternative to ubuntu using the xfce desktop environment
[15:02] <cfhowlett> jurassik, you might have to switch to ubuntu to get it.  I don't think dash in integrated into anything except unity.
[15:03] <jurassik> ok  ok thanks you very much =) but my laptop is too old for that i think!
[15:03] <jaldhar> quick question: is saucy a long term release?  If not which is the next one?
[15:03] <kostkon> jaldhar, no. next lts is 14.04 in april next year
[15:04] <cfhowlett> jaldhar, 6 months on saucy.  next LTS is 14.04
[15:04] <cfhowlett> jaldhar, 12.04 is LTS and supported for 5 years.
[15:04] <jaldhar> cool.  thanks.
[15:04] <eflynn> what do i need in sources.list to install links package? I have just 'saucy main'
[15:05] <kostkon> !info links saucy
[15:05] <kostkon> eflynn, apt-cache policy links
[15:09] <eflynn> kostkon: thanks
[15:09] <Ryuzaki> Hi
[15:09] <reisio> hi Ryuzaki
[15:09] <jurassik> where i can dwonload new Ubuntu OS (good) ???
[15:09] <reisio> jurassik: whereabouts are you geographically?
[15:09] <Ryuzaki> Anyone see The Fifth Estate this weekend?
[15:09] <kostkon> jurassik, http://ubuntu.com/download
[15:09] <kostkon> !ot | Ryuzaki
[15:10] <Ryuzaki> Ohh Ok thanks.
[15:10] <kostkon> ;)
[15:10] <jurassik> reisio what u meen?
[15:10] <reisio> ur00pl: http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu-releases/
[15:10] <reisio> erm
[15:10] <reisio> jurassik: http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu-releases/
[15:10] <jurassik> kostko thaks
[15:12] <jurassik> reisio !? how did u know that i am an .ie ?
[15:12] <Ryuzaki> I got a question
[15:12] <kostkon> jurassik, one way is to whois your ip, in most cases it gives your isp info
[15:12] <eflynn> Ryuzaki: you're not allowed to have questions
[15:13] <reisio> jurassik: magicks
[15:13] <jurassik> kostkon ! alright =) u hacker facker xDD
[15:13] <Ryuzaki> can two people talk on the same channel from different servers? Or do they have to be on the same server and same channel
[15:13] <reisio> certainly not by you answering my simple question :p
[15:13] <jurassik> =)
[15:13] <reisio> 10gbps, IE is nice
[15:13] <andry> wow .. just replaced gnome-screnshot with shutter .. want to share it .. has ftp upload and stuff
[15:14] <jurassik> reisio , yes just like magician
[15:14] <GiiNG3RASSASSiN> Hey guys, I've managed to uninstall windows off my PC and put Ubuntu 12.04 on and my problem is now it won't load up at all, any help please.
[15:15] <jurassik> you and Ubuntu Saucy Salamander it good ?
[15:16] <neure> hmmh
[15:16] <neure> there doesnt seem to be font settings anywhere in control center?
[15:17] <xtriz> Seveas, i had done software update , and the  packages were downloaded partially, so i want to remove the partially downloaded packages.
[15:17] <jurassik> reisio,kostkon,Ubuntu Saucy Salamander is good ?
[15:18] <OerHeks> jurassik, try it yourself and let us kniw
[15:18] <OerHeks> *know
[15:18] <jurassik> alright
[15:18] <jurassik> =)
[15:19] <jurassik> smart ass
[15:19] <jurassik> =)
[15:19] <FloodBot1> jurassik: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:19] <neure> how do i install a font?
[15:19] <jurassik> ????
[15:19] <OerHeks> jurassik, so what answer did you want?
[15:19] <dingo_> Seveas: dont know if you saw my other message. its still showing 'screen' inside tmux. so i assume this is a tmux issue? i even removed screen
[15:20] <jurassik> no,that answer is ok ! just lol
[15:22] <zteam> Is there any torrent-lens available to 13.10?
[15:26] <moppy> jurassik: I personally have not had any major issues with Saucy upgrade, and I notice the launcher is prettier.
[15:27] <moppy> do we know any image viewer that can open a thumbnail view of a folder *AND* can read inside archives?
[15:27] <BrianH> Is anyone able to run system-config-kickstart on 13.10?
[15:29] <kostkon> !download | zteam
[15:30] <TKing> am trying to load ubuntu from USB where grub is my only option, i have done the following: insmod part_msdos and also did "ls (hd1, msdos1)/" but don't know how to load the bootload so i can try ubuntu
[15:30] <jurassik> moppy, thank you ! =) i already started downloading =)
[15:30] <BrianH> TKing: why not use unetbootin?
[15:30] <jurassik> and that .iso file i need to burn on cd?
[15:31] <wilee-nilee> TKing, grub on the computer?
[15:33] <subcool> could someone point me in the direction of the wemin thing for raid, mdadm -
[15:33] <subcool> im googling the heck out of it- but google doesnt like me.
[15:33] <SchrodingersScat> so, my 13.04 ubuntu-server says I should 'do-release-upgrade' to upgrade to 13.10, but I thought I saw someone in here say not to do that.  What?
[15:33] <neure> how do i get a different theme?
[15:34] <neure> i want a dark theme
[15:34] <neure> i only see 3 themes
[15:34] <TKing> wilee-nilee, my system doesn't run the LiveUSB no matter what. So i remember i did have the Livcd boot following the above command so i want to know if anyone done it before or have a clue
[15:34] <zteam> kostkon, Well, I know about, I was asking if there was a torrent-lens, avaiable to 13,10 (it search torrent-sites from dash)
[15:34] <TKing> maybe i need to load grub.cfg or something but i am not sure
[15:34] <kostkon> zteam, oh
[15:35] <subcool> nevermind, ofcourse after i ask i find it..
[15:35] <BrianH> subcool: http://www.linuxmanpages.com/man5/mdadm.conf.5.php
[15:35] <subcool> not what i came across, but always helpful..
[15:35] <subcool> thanks
[15:36] <zteam> TKing, are you trying to add a ubuntu ISO-file to grub?
[15:37] <wilee-nilee> TKing, You can boot an iso from grub2 if its on the computer.
[15:37] <root_worm> Hello , I am new in ubuntu, ad i recently install 12.04.03 and now  i am missing FIFA 11. so please help me...how can i play fifa 11 in ubuntu
[15:37] <root_worm> ???
[15:38] <TKing> wilee-nilee? all i see is grub> how do i make it grub2> if
[15:38] <wilee-nilee> TKing, grub> is a grub 2 notation, you are not making any sense to be honest.
[15:39] <moppy> root_worm: that game does work in Linux. you will need to use the WINE windows 'emulator' and install it in that.
[15:39] <moppy> root_worm: If that's too technical, playonlinux.com has a package for it
[15:39] <root_worm> ohk thank you. and some one suggest me PlayOn Linux
[15:39] <root_worm> wat is tht then?
[15:40] <wilee-nilee> !details | TKing
[15:40] <moppy> root_worm: I'd agree then, use Playonlinux.com
[15:40] <root_worm> ohh ok ok i understand, thank you so much
[15:40] <root_worm> :)
[15:40] <neure> help - i need to get some other theme
[15:41] <stevecoh1> I just installed ubuntu 12.04 (previously 10.04).  Somewhere between these Ubuntu switched to a Macintosh-like UI.  If I don't like this, how may I turn it off and go back to the windowing system that was there in the earlier version.
[15:41] <zteam> TKing, I think you are looking for this :-)
[15:41] <zteam> TKing, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/02/how-to-boot-iso-with-grub2-easy-way.html
[15:41] <m3kk> neure, other theme of what? Unity?
[15:41] <neure> yeah
[15:41] <neure> is there a way to get dark theme for unity?
[15:42] <neure> or can i just switch to say openbox?
[15:42] <m3kk> neure, gnome-look.org
[15:42] <wilee-nilee> zteam, I don't think they can get to the OS, grub> is a grub not booting.
[15:42] <neure> m3kk, so how do i install those?
[15:42] <m3kk> neure, install unity tweak tools from USC
[15:43] <moppy> stevecoh1: You can look at 'xubuntu' for an alternative desktop, there are also gnome2 forks out there
[15:43] <neure> usc? tweak tool?
[15:43] <m3kk> neure, you can also "sudo nautilus" so you open filebrowser with admin rights  and copy the theme to /usr/share/themes
[15:43] <m3kk> neure, "unity tweak tool" from Ubuntu Software Center
[15:44] <zteam> wilee-nilee, TKing: if that's the case , I suggest to use boot-repair this software fixed my grub-issues in about twenty seconds
[15:44] <stevecoh1> moppy: thanks.  So no way to change look/feel without installing something new?
[15:45] <neure> ah
[15:45] <neure> the tweak tool
[15:45] <m3kk> neure, yeah its pretty handy
[15:45] <neure> why is it not part of system settings?
[15:45] <m3kk> neure, i have no clue. i think it should be there built in
[15:46] <zteam> stevecoh1, if u are using Ubuntu 13
[15:46] <m3kk> neure, they are making some weird choices
[15:46] <neure> i cant seem to be able to change theme colors from it though
[15:46] <psychologe> hello,everybody,i upgraded ubuntu to 13.10.everything is work fine.but has a problem about wifi.if i used bcmwl-kernel-source ,i can find and connect wifi.but can't access internet..if i not used this driver ,my computer can find only one wifi(in my room ,is my wireless router),and signal intensity is very weak,i can access internet. .
[15:46] <zteam> stevecoh1, if you are using Ubuntu 13.04 or earlier you can just install gnome-fallback-session
[15:47] <anonymous_> hi ! tried to use webdavs (https) on linux and windows and its working pretty fast except at the end it takes up to 5 minutes until the copy job is done  .... any suggestions what to do ?
[15:47] <m3kk> neure, you can install a theme..
[15:47] <neure> does the gui let me do that somehow?
[15:47] <m3kk> neure, i dont think you can just change colors
[15:47] <TKing> wilee-nilee, sorry, am not really an expert am just trying hard to explain things. Actually, i want to boot the liveUSB so i can see the "try ubuntu" and then try to install fresh ubuntu. My reasons for wanting to go via grub is that, i have used it before and because my PC doesn't boot liveUSB (with boot from USB enabled in bios, UEFI, disabled or enabled QuickBoot off or on)
[15:47] <neure> : (
[15:47] <stevecoh1> I just went to 12.04.  (Because that is what the update manager offered).  What are the advantages of 13.04?
[15:47] <neure> i remember in openbox i was able to edit theme colors with some program
[15:47] <m3kk> neure, yeah in unity tweak toool
[15:48] <neure> it justs lists available themes
[15:48] <m3kk> neure, and after you install them you can change theme in regular desktop settings where you chose wallpaper.. you see 2 themes already there "ambiance" and "radiance"
[15:48] <neure> install, how?
[15:48] <m3kk> neure, download the themes from gnome-look.org
[15:49] <m3kk> some themes are .deb and can juist be installed
[15:49] <m3kk> and some you need to extract and copy to /usr/share/themes
[15:49] <pero> i have had dbus-daemon  own my cpu over 100% for a whole day  - any ideas ?
[15:49] <neure> does 13.10 use gtk2 or gtk3 ?
[15:49] <m3kk> neure, advice: install xubuntu.. there is plenty of themes already installed included blackbird
[15:50] <m3kk> neure, gtk3
[15:50] <zteam> stevecoh1, there is alot of new stuff in the repository, and Unity is enhanched a little bit, and the updater only let you upgrade, one step once
[15:50] <wilee-nilee> TKing, If you can get to the OS use the iso boot with grub, there is alos a boot per session menu outside the bios on msdos computers probably on a uefi as well.
[15:50] <Mathisen> why cant i download ubuntu from the offical homepage ?? http://us.releases.ubuntu.com//saucy/ubuntu-13.10-desktop-i386.iso >>> Object not found!
[15:50] <neure> m3kk, i want to deviate as little as possible from "standard" ubuntu but i cant stand white background in windows :/
[15:51] <m3kk> neure, just a tought!
[15:51] <zteam> stevecoh1, anyway, just install the gnome-fallback-session and you get Ubuntu close to older versions
[15:51] <Mathisen> is it only me ? or is it working for anyone else here ?
[15:51] <m3kk> taught..
[15:51] <m3kk> spelling
[15:51] <Mathisen> if someone can check pls :)
[15:51] <c107> I `dd`'d Ubuntu 7.04 to a flash drive.  It didn't boot.
[15:52] <zteam> stevecoh1, you can actually switch between unity and Gnome Classic from the login screen :-)
[15:52] <subcool> Is there anyone Well Versed on RAID?
[15:52] <m3kk> Mathisen, what does not work?
[15:52] <moppy> stevecoh1: ubuntus current desktop is what it is; you'd need to change the desktop environment to return to the older style that your maverick had.
[15:52] <c107> Also, someone gave me a link to old Ubuntu artwork, but I didn't visit it before my client disconnected.
[15:52] <Mathisen> m3kk i cant download the iso file
[15:52] <moppy> stevecoh1: look at cinammon or mint or xubuntu perhaps, if you want to go back to the old one
[15:52] <Mathisen> i just get an error > object not found
[15:52] <m3kk> Mathisen, no clue sorry
[15:53] <Mathisen> does it work for you ?
[15:53] <wilee-nilee> Mathisen, use this or a alternative=torrent  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[15:53] <neure> so i downloaded a theme, then what?
[15:53] <Mathisen> will do
[15:53] <moppy> c107 i believe the old images didn't support that; the new ones do
[15:53] <m3kk> stevecoh1, you can setup xfce to like gnome2
[15:54] <zteam> moppy, there is no need to go to Mint for that, Cinnamon and gnome-classic is both available in the repository
[15:54] <stevecoh1> Well, maybe I should try it awhile before I decide I really don't like it.  I suppose it's "cleaner"
[15:55] <zteam> stevecoh1, personally I think Unity is pretty awesome
[15:55] <neure> it's just a .tar.gz file
[15:55] <moppy> stevecoh1: i do like the dash search, no more looking for things, just type in whatever. it hooks into applications too. for example gimp, where i dont need to use the menu bar anymore
[15:55] <neure> m3kk, ?
[15:55] <stevecoh1> try it, you'll like it ...
[15:55] <c107> I liked Unity until I wanted to customize it.
[15:56] <stevecoh1> Yeah, where is the customization.  Suppose I want the task bar on the bottom, stuff like that?
[15:56] <moppy> c107: there's some 3rd party tweaking tools, but it's still not yet as customisable as an older DE, primarily due to its age
[15:56] <moppy> stevecoh1: you can do that, there's a tool for it you look around
[15:56] <c107> moppy: Where do I get the UI artwork, such as wallpaper, icons, window borders, GDM, and others?
[15:56] <moppy> c107: it uses the same icons as any other DE ...
[15:56] <zteam> stevecoh1, but as I said, you can switch between both Gnome Classic, and Unity whenever you want with just a mouseclick
[15:56] <neure> the tweak tool does not seem to have any way to open a theme file to install it
[15:56] <wilee-nilee> c107, why are loading 7.04?
[15:56] <stevecoh1> moppy, what's it called?  I looked a little and couldn't find it.
[15:56] <TKing> wilee-nilee, when i reboot, with liveUSB inserted the only thing i see is 1. Ubuntu 2. Advanced Options for Ubuntu 3. System setup --- (this is how i get to BIOS)? all in the defualt purple screen. So i hidt "c" for the commandline and entered the following in grub> insmod part_msdos, ls (hd1,msdos1)/boot/grub so am stuck here as i cant remember how to load the ISO or make the cd boot
[15:57] <c107> moppy: I know.  I want to get the artwork from Feisty.
[15:57] <stevecoh1> zteam, where do I make that mouse click?
[15:57] <stevecoh1> I've been looking for it.
[15:57] <moppy> stevecoh1: try this first http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/02/introducing-unity-tweak-tool
[15:57] <c107> wilee-nilee: I'm actually using a free Ubuntu derivative called Trisquel.  I want to relive the year when I lost my GNU virginity.
[15:58] <wilee-nilee> TKing, take a look here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[15:58] <guest____> hi, could someone help me set up apache on ubuntu 13.10? i am practically done, all i really need is to use a folder that is on a windows partition instead of the content of var/www
[15:58] <pero> i have dbus-daemon running at over 100% for hours - how can i find out what's causing this?
[15:58] <neure> ok sudo cp to /usr/share/themes did the trick..
[15:58] <zteam> stevecoh1, you have to install gnome-classic first, to do so, open a terminal and run sudo apt-get install gnome-fallback-session
[15:59] <neosx> salve a tutti
[15:59] <wilee-nilee> c107, you are using a OS not supported and asking for help on a eol not supported either.
[15:59] <c107> wilee-nilee: That's not nice.  All I am asking is this:  Where are the files containing all the artwork used in Ubuntu 7.04?
[15:59] <m3kk>  neure yep! i always does sudo nautilus because i cant remember the command for copy
[16:00] <zteam> stevecoh1, but as moppy says, if you only want to change some small things in Unity try Unity Tweak tool first
[16:00] <wilee-nilee> c107, Its not a matter of nice it is the channels norm.
[16:00] <neure> ok
[16:00] <c107> m3kk: I'm glad you don't know what cp is.
[16:00] <neure> what about qt programs?
[16:00] <neure> how do i edit theme for those?
[16:01] <m3kk> c107, you are glad?
[16:01] <c107> m3kk: Yes.  cp is a bad thing.
[16:01] <stevecoh1> unity tweak install failed
[16:02] <stevecoh1> Err http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main Sources
[16:02] <stevecoh1>   404  Not Found
[16:02] <stevecoh1> Ign http://archive.canonical.com precise/partner Translation-en
[16:02] <stevecoh1> Err http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main i386 Packages
[16:02] <stevecoh1>   404  Not Found
[16:02] <FloodBot1> stevecoh1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:02] <stevecoh1> Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main Translation-en_US
[16:02] <emperorhorde> Hello
[16:03] <emperorhorde> i need help
[16:03] <stevecoh1> unity tweak install failed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6271241/
[16:03] <wilee-nilee> stevecoh1, chnage the mirror
[16:03] <stevecoh1> to what?
[16:03] <jmgk> hello
[16:04] <m3kk> c107, like the disease? yeah haha
[16:04] <stevecoh1> I followed the steps here, that is what produced the error: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/02/introducing-unity-tweak-tool
[16:04] <stevecoh1> and got the errors above.
[16:04] <m3kk> stevecoh1, what ubuntu version are you running
[16:04] <stevecoh1> 12.04
[16:04] <emperorhorde> stevecoh1 I suggest using the synaptic
[16:05] <c107> m3kk: child porn
[16:05] <emperorhorde> spanis
[16:05] <emperorhorde> spanish
[16:05] <wilee-nilee> stevecoh1,that ppa has no 12.04 release.
[16:05] <m3kk> c107, oh right i totally forgot about that!
[16:05] <Joel> which package makes this directory? /usr/lib/jvm/default-java
[16:05] <c107> m3kk: ;)
[16:05] <stevecoh1> emperorhorde: synaptic, where did that go anyway?  All I see now is Ubuntu Software Center which I can't stand.
[16:05] <m3kk> stevecoh1, change mirror to a newer like 13.10
[16:05] <m3kk> or 13.04
[16:06] <stevecoh1> Probably better to just upgrade.
[16:06] <wilee-nilee> unity tweak is post 12.04
[16:06] <m3kk> :D
[16:07] <emperorhorde> stevecoh1 in the ubuntu software is the option to download the synaptic or you can use the following command in the terminal: sudo apt get install synaptic
[16:07] <c107> Somebody please point me to the directory hosting artwork used in Ubuntu.
[16:08] <emperorhorde> I remember that you update the version of ubuntu.
[16:08] <zteam> stevecoh1, unity tweak tool, is not avaiable for 12.04, but you can add if you want to, or upgrade to a newer release such as Ubuntu 12.10
[16:08] <emperorhorde> stevecoh1 I remember that you update the version of ubuntu 13.10
[16:08] <m3kk> Someone else has issues enabling restricted drivers? software-configure.gtk or something crashes
[16:08] <c107> Where is the Ubuntu artwork hosted?
[16:09] <emperorhorde> www.ubuntu.com  c107
[16:09] <Skirmant> Theoretically, if someone hacked the source code of windows would there be people out there to develop it?
[16:09] <wilee-nilee> emperorhorde, You are way off base on your help, concentrate on your issue.
[16:09] <anonymous_> no one here who can help me with webdav problems ? :(
[16:09] <moltz> has anyone had ubuntu gnome crashing on intel?
[16:10] <wilee-nilee> !find webdav
[16:10] <zteam> c107, if you want more themes and artwork to choose from just install ubuntu-artwork from software-center
[16:10] <c107> emperorhorde: It is shameful that you expect me to find the file from the root of the tree.
[16:10] <wilee-nilee> moltz, Can you detail the issue to the channel?
[16:11] <c107> zteam: I don't use Ubuntu.  I just want to have the files.
[16:11] <wilee-nilee> Skirmant, Not a ubuntu support topic.
[16:11] <zteam> c107, what distrubution are you using then?
[16:12] <c107> zteam: I see `ubuntu-artwork` in Trisquel's repositories.
[16:12] <Darkangel> Hey just want to make sure is INTEL Processor's 32-Bit Only or are they 64-bit to?
[16:12] <zteam> c107, okey, try to install them then :-)
[16:13] <faugusztin> Darkangel: last 5 years or so are mostly 64-bit
[16:13] <c107> zteam: So, I will install it.  But, I'd like to have them in raw form so that I can use them when I experiment with Parabola (a free version of Arch).
[16:13] <Darkangel> cool thx bud
[16:13] <faugusztin> Darkangel: last 32-bit only CPU from Intel were for Socket 775
[16:13] <Darkangel> aww
[16:13] <JohnP^> anyone had problems with a52 surround output in saucy? like a cored ump....
[16:14] <zteam> Darkangel, if you have a processor, made within the last five years then it should be 64-bit
[16:14] <Darkangel> ok =)
[16:16] <zteam> c107, well, in Ubuntu you can tell the package manager to just download the package (and not install it, then I think you can unpack that just as a regular zip file)
[16:17] <zteam> c107, I assume pacman has some similair option
[16:17] <cat_sniper> Hey, I'm having some network issues, everytime I restart Ubuntu, or leave it going for a bit it just stops connecting and cannot find my wired connection anymore. I've reinstalled and it fixed it temporarily and then the problem came back.
[16:17] <c107> Okay.  Thanks, zteam.
[16:18] <faugusztin> c107: am i missing something or why can't you just clone the git repo and copy out the files you need ? http://devel.trisquel.info/gitweb/?p=trisquel-packages.git;a=tree;f=6.0;h=dc4701f2659187fb1951f181f5b3e09c36336b64;hb=HEAD ?
[16:18] <zteam> c107, you are welcome :-)
[16:18] <cat_sniper> My driver is r8169 if that helps and I can try and give you any information you need
[16:19] <spider_> am using blackbuntu amd. i have connected to the internet. but apt-get fail. any help?
[16:19] <daptordarattler> so far ubuntu 12.04 is the most stable release, but I am hearing some good stuff about 13.10, lots of fixes and stability, can anyone vouch for it after an upgrade?
[16:19] <wilee-nilee> cat_sniper, the rt cards just are not supported very well do yourself a favor and get a usb that plugs and works or a new card.
[16:20] <JohnP^> 13.10 broke a few things for me
[16:20] <OerHeks> spider_,  blackbuntu / pentesting is not supported here.
[16:20] <wilee-nilee> daptordarattler, your asking for subjective opinions hardly good evidence.
[16:20] <JohnP^> "something" in the xfce config stops some users' desktops from appearing
[16:20] <cat_sniper> wilee-nilee, do you mean like a wireless usb dongle? Is there anything I can do for it to be working in the short run while I get a new card or something
[16:21] <spider_> ok
[16:21] <JohnP^> 5.1 surround sound no longer works either
[16:21] <TKing> please can someone look into my elaborate paste and help me solve my problem? It is long but troubling to me and would appreciate your help http://paste.ubuntu.com/6271365/
[16:21] <wilee-nilee> cat_sniper, I assume you are using a wrapper sounds like you have it working at times not much more that I know of, but it's not an area I have messed with.
[16:21] <daptordarattler> wilee-nilee: I dont mind at all I just want the opinions of those who have actually upgraded from 13.04 so far and if there any issues I should look out for
[16:22] <OerHeks> spider_, they have their own channel > Official Blackbuntu IRC irc.foonetic.net #Blackbuntu
[16:22] <spider_> nobody seems to be available
[16:22] <wilee-nilee> daptordarattler, the channel is not for polling is all it is support
[16:22] <JohnP^> daptordarattler, just the 2 problems I put above - the surround sound one is really annoying though
[16:23] <cat_sniper> wilnee-nilee, OK, thanks. I'm gonna try and get it working, hopefully it will work eventually
[16:23] <daptordarattler> Like for instance my memory overflowsin 13,04 when I create a startup disk or do anything intense with a usb drive and I am hoping its been fixed in 13.10, yeah in a way it is kinda of support for future problems
[16:23] <Hackwar> hi folks, can I already copy data into a raid when it is still resyncing?
[16:23] <Hackwar> and how can I see if a raid has been properly mounted into a directoryß
[16:23] <JohnP^> Hackwar, yes
[16:24] <daptordarattler> JohnP^: I had the surround sound problem in 13.04 when only one speaker on my laptop was working
[16:24] <JohnP^> pulseaudio core dumps on 13.10
[16:24] <jhpy1024> Hey guys
[16:25] <Hackwar> JohnP^: thx
[16:25] <JohnP^> the only way I found to get sound is to comment out "rate 48000" in a52.conf, but then you only get stereo
[16:25] <daptordarattler> also I was wondering if the unity grabbing of mouse gestures has been fixed so I can have custom motion gestures with newegg gestures
[16:25] <jhpy1024> I have installed openSSH and I've tried connecting to it via this: https://ssh.serverdo.in/ but it's just not working. Do I have to port-forward or something?
[16:25] <jhpy1024> What I'm wanting is to be able to SSH into my PC when I'm at school
[16:26] <baegle> How do I list all packages installed on my system from a particular repository (specifically looking for packages installed from a particular ppa)
[16:26] <BrianH> I remember using a KVM gui in ubuntu, but I forget the name.  Anyone know?
[16:26] <BrianH> It had a UI that showed the screens of all the running machines in one view.
[16:26] <JohnP^> jhpy1024, #ssh ssh.serverdo.in
[16:26] <nightdrever> computer screen keeps going blank after around 10 mins?
[16:27] <zykotick9> BrianH: i'd guess you mean virt-manager... but i wouldn't call it a "KVM gui"...
[16:27] <wilee-nilee> nightdrever, 12.04?
[16:27] <nightdrever> yes
[16:27] <BrianH> zykotick9: no, it wasn't virt-manager.  It had a unique name.
[16:27] <zykotick9> jhpy1024: forward port 22 from your router to your openssh server's IP
[16:28] <jhpy1024> okay thanks zykotick9
[16:28] <OerHeks> baegle, open softwarecenter, and check 'all software" button to change it to your ppa
[16:28] <nightdrever> lock is off turn screen off when inactive is set to Never, however screen goes blank after around 10 mins?
[16:28] <jhpy1024> zykotick9, Will I have to portforward every time my IP changes (dynamic IP)?
[16:28] <BrianH> zykotick9: you could press a hotkey that brought up a full screen UI that showed thumbnails of machines.
[16:29] <zykotick9> jhpy1024: if your "server" internal IP changes, then yes.  if it's your router's IP that changes, then no.
[16:29] <Boreeas> Can I adjust the mouse sensitivity? In "System Settings" → "Mouse & Touchpad", all I can adjust is the primary mouse button and double click speed
[16:29] <wilee-nilee> nightdrever, Its a bug not fixed you can turn off http://askubuntu.com/questions/184111/disable-blank-screen-in-12-04
[16:29] <zykotick9> BrianH: sorry, i don't use virt-manager (libvirt) or any other GUIs for my KVM VMs... i don't know any other suggestions.
[16:30] <TKing> please can someone look into my elaborate paste and help me solve my problem? It is long but troubling to me and would appreciate your help http://paste.ubuntu.com/6271365/
[16:30] <nightdrever> wilee which answer should i follow?
[16:31] <BrianH> zykotick9: Aha! Gnome Boxes: https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Apps/Boxes?action=show&redirect=Boxes
[16:31] <wilee-nilee> nightdrever, I have a command I use to turn it off per session when it bothers me, I am in W8.1 right now I will have to reboot to get it if you need it.
[16:32] <nightdrever> well id rather get a fix which i dont have to use each time i start pc
[16:32] <nightdrever> this never used to happen
[16:32] <BrianH> I wonder if I could run that in Unity.
[16:32] <zykotick9> BrianH: i'm glad you found it, thanks for sharing
[16:33] <baegle> OerHeks: Is there any way to do this via command-line. I'm trying to actually do some work instead of looking at icons and transcribing text
[16:34] <nightdrever> ok ill mess around be back later
[16:34] <OerHeks> beagle, sure, lot of work > http://askubuntu.com/questions/43581/how-to-list-packages-from-a-ppa-source-in-command-line
[16:35] <baegle> OerHeks: thanks for the link. Looks good
[16:35] <BrianH> If I install ubuntu-desktop from a system with ubuntu-server, does the kernel get replaced?
[16:35] <stevecoh1> Is this possible?  I'd like to install something on my ubuntu that would enable me to control my desktop via a web interface in another room?
[16:36] <BrianH> stevecoh1: VNC
[16:37] <OerHeks> BrianH, no.
[16:37] <BrianH> stevecoh1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[16:37] <BrianH> OerHeks: in regards to the kernel?
[16:37] <stevecoh1> thanks brian h
[16:38] <zykotick9> BrianH: i wouldn't think that ubuntu-desktop has a kernel involved...  "apt-cache depends ubuntu-desktop" should list what will be installed.
[16:38] <OerHeks> BrianH, the kernel will stay
[16:38] <BrianH> Awesome, thanks. :)
[16:39] <jhigh9000> hello. is there a way to get better download speeds by setting up ssh tunnel to wherever you want to connect to?
[16:39] <zykotick9> jhigh9000: ahhh, encryption (ssh) will slow transfers down (a little)???
[16:40] <jhigh9000> or am i confusing ssh with ssl?
[16:40] <ilbuonme> Hi guys, can I ask a question on Xubuntu 13.10 and the Jupiter applet?
[16:40] <ilbuonme> I'd like to know whether anyone has installed it on 13.10
[16:41] <BrianH> ilbuonme: try #xubuntu?
[16:41] <ilbuonme> BrianH: it seems it's not a problem with Xubuntu, but with the new Ubuntu in general
[16:42] <ilbuonme> BrianH: but ok, I'll try there
[16:43] <jhigh9000> zykotick9: i never mess with ssh. i was only curious about it (ssh). thanks for your help. :)
[16:43] <BrianH> ilbuonme: *shrugs* I just assume that most users here are on Unity.  Just a suggestion if you can't find someone here to help.
[16:45] <zykotick9> jhigh9000: i use ssh (or mosh) everyday, but honestly, never for tunnels.  ssh is SUPER handy/powerful, you really should look into it.  it's great for file transfers too (scp/sftp).
[16:46] <AJH101> hi i have a red warning triable at the top of my screen (12.04). Apparently I have problems updating - but the 'update manually' suggestion achieves nothing - any ideas please?
[16:46] <raven_raven> Hello, could someone help me with my overheating GPU (Radeon HD Mobility 4650)? Is there a fix to this at all?
[16:47] <jhigh9000> zykotick9: ok. i use filezilla occasionally for ftp.
[16:48] <Boreeas> How can I adjust the mouse sensitivity? In "System Settings" → "Mouse & Touchpad", all I can adjust is the primary mouse button and double click speed
[16:48] <andry> did you plug your mouse in- and out? else you can do it via xinput
[16:49] <andry> sorry, out- and in
[16:49] <AJH101> I have tried sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade but nothing is updated - any ideas please?
[16:50] <wilee-nilee> AJH101, pastebin the output from those commands
[16:51] <jhigh9000> zykotick9: thanks. :)
[16:52] <munerf> hello, after updating to 13.10 I lost my network connectivity, if I do a dhclient eth0 I get network for 5m then I loose connectivity again, what can I do=
[16:55] <tiina> How can I do clean start ubuntu on my computer when I cannot upgrade/update or install new one
[16:57] <andry> munerf, kubuntu?
[16:57] <andry> there are a lot of bug reports related to this :/
[16:59] <jackarg> hi, could anyone here help me enable DVD playing on an old mac mini? thanks!
[17:00] <Ziber> I've just updated to 13.10 on my laptop, and there's a popup that I can't seem to be make go away, that tells me that the hotkey for iBus is changed to super+space?
[17:00] <OerHeks> jackarg, old 'intel'  mac mini?
[17:00] <jackarg> OerHeks uh probably, why?
[17:00] <Ziber> And my background image is gone..
[17:01] <OerHeks> jackarg,i hope this works:  follow this guide >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs >> sudo apt-get install libdvdread4 > Then open a terminal window and execute: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[17:01] <OerHeks> jackarg, no guarantee all dvd's will play
[17:02] <kingbeowolf> so whats the current method to watch amazon prime videos?
[17:02] <kingbeowolf> the old method of install hal doesn't work
[17:03] <Ziber> Right-clicking on my desktop doesn't do anything, either.
[17:03] <jackarg> OerHeks ok the problem is I get this error message saying wget can't get to the address "packages.medibuntu.org" and it says "dyamic fetch failed" and all sorts of things
[17:04] <OerHeks> jackarg, known issue, medibuntu is dead, use restricted extra's
[17:04] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[17:05] <Ziber> So, what's IBus?
[17:05] <Ziber> And why won't the alert about it go away in 13.10?
[17:05] <OerHeks> kingbeowolf, i don't know howto watch amazon stuff, but HAL is depreciated since 9.04? or 10.04 ?
[17:05] <levo> does anyone know a good wiki for taking notes of college books and materials? or any other way (cross platform)
[17:05] <andry> Ziber, i had this too .. i just removed english from my languages  and keyboard layout
[17:06] <andry> (default is german for me)
[17:06] <andry> then reboot
[17:06] <jackarg> OerHeks 3 things: 1. I have installed ubuntu-restricted-extras but that doesn't change anything 2. on my new laptop i did the same procedure and it worked fine, and it used another server instead of medibuntu 3. why is that command listed on the documentation if it's down?
[17:06] <kingbeowolf> OerHeks: it worked in 13.04 and the replacement is hal-info
[17:06] <andry> this popup keeps coming when i have more than one keyboard layout installed
[17:06] <Ziber> andry: Well, uh, I'm American.
[17:06] <Ziber> I don't think I have more than one installed. How can I check though?
[17:07] <OerHeks> jackarg, medibuntu is not listed @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[17:08] <andry> Ziber, try to type "keys" or "keyboard" into unity launcher
[17:08] <jackarg> OerHeks but for some reason it's what wget is trying to get access to when i execute the css install command. so what now?
[17:08] <andry> or hardware > keyboard
[17:09] <andry> maybe it installed en_us plus en_gb or sth
[17:09] <OerHeks> jackarg, remove medibuntu from your sources
[17:09] <jackarg> OerHeks I see what you linked me, the libdvdcss package. If I just install that everything will work?
[17:09] <TKing> sorry i am doing a boot repair just want to find out if it takes hours because i have been on the screen where it says "Purge and reinstall the Grub of: sbd2(upd)" for about 30mins
[17:09] <OerHeks> jackarg, you need that css script too, that comes with restricted extra's AFAIK
[17:10] <sophie_> I'm running Ubuntu 13.04, and I've noticed when running Unigine Heaven that my GPU clock is only 705mhz, and my nvidia prefs show this also at performance level 3, my card should have a base clock if 915 and a turbo clock of 1800mhz (approx)
[17:10] <Ziber> And my background image missing?
[17:11] <andry> did you use unity-tweak-tool and disable "show icons on desktop" or sth like that, Ziber?
[17:11] <jackarg> OerHeks and after removing it from my sources it will automatically use the other repo when i execute the css install command?
[17:11] <andry> that would disable nautilus (if i remember correct) from managing the desktop
[17:11] <OerHeks> jackarg, yes, if you have installed restricted, it will take that source for css
[17:12] <munerf> I'm think my problem is related with NetworkManager
[17:12] <jackarg> OerHeks now sorry but i'm not using ubuntu so what's the command to remove it from your sources?
[17:12] <Ari-Yang> andry: you can prevent nautilus and nemo from launching fake desktop windows by using ubuntu-tweak-tool?
[17:13] <Ziber> andry: Don't think so.
[17:13] <OerHeks> .. i don't know, i support ubuntu only
[17:13] <andry> Ari-Yang, unity-tweak-tool or ubuntu-tweak-tool disabled it for me once .. had no wallpaper then
[17:13] <OerHeks> jackarg, this applies to xubuntu/kubuntu/lubuntu too
[17:13] <kingbeowolf> so whats the current method to watch amazon prime videos?
[17:14] <Ziber> Oh, apparently I did. Ha. Thanks!
[17:14] <jackarg> OerHeks i'm using peppermint and I can't find the sources gui
[17:14] <Ari-Yang> Ziber: to prevent nautilus from launching a fake desktop window when I select 'open folder location' in Deluge... I moved /usr/bin/nautilus to /usr/bin/nautilus.real made a script that had exec line exce=/usr/bin/nautilus.real --no-desktop and saved it as nautilus under /usr/bin and made it executable
[17:15] <OerHeks> jackarg, join spotnet, they have the peppermint irc suport
[17:15] <nightdrever> when i open steam .... Your currently insalled video driver package is nvidia-319-updates, version 319.32-Oubuntu0.0.1 The video driver package nvidea-319, version 319.49-0ubuntu1~precise~xup1 has a more recent driver version. We recomend upgrading to this package.............how do i do this?
[17:16] <kingbeowolf> nightdrever: sudo apt-get update
[17:16] <Ari-Yang> !ubuntu-tweak-tool
[17:16] <kingbeowolf> unity tweak tool
[17:16] <Ari-Yang> andry: can't seem to find ubuntu-tweak-tool in apt-cache search
[17:16] <Ari-Yang> oh
[17:16] <kingbeowolf> 1unity tweak tool
[17:16] <Ari-Yang> unity?
[17:16] <kingbeowolf> !unity tweak tool
[17:17] <Ari-Yang> I can't even find unity tweak
[17:17] <andry> utt needs to be added via ppa
[17:17] <andry> unity-tweak-tool is in the ubu repos
[17:17] <Ari-Yang> there is gnome-tweak-tool
[17:17] <nightdrever> kingbeowolf .... sudo apt-get update..........nothing?
[17:17] <OerHeks> nightdrever, funny, that driver revers to x-swat ppa > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates but has no saucy candidate
[17:17] <andry> thats for gnome only :)
[17:17] <kingbeowolf> nightdrever: sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:17] <Ziber> What about the remaining time on my laptop battery?
[17:17] <Xfaulz> How can I change the SSH's "Access Denied" message to something else when somebody attempts an failed login?
[17:18] <OerHeks> nightdrever, might want to ask in #ubuntu-steam too
[17:18] <nightdrever> hmm il ask again another time
[17:18] <TKing> sorry i am doing a boot repair just want to find out if it takes hours because i have been on the screen where it says "Purge and reinstall the Grub of: sbd2(upd)" for about 30mins
[17:18] <angs> I have a hp envy 15 laptop, I recently installed ubuntu 13.10 and its sound quality decreased significantly comparing the one on windows. is there a driver that I need to install? If it is so, where can I download it
[17:19] <andry> what is the problem with that Ziber ?
[17:19] <jetro_> Hey, guys I just installed ubuntu, and want to create a partition so I can install windows as well.
[17:19] <Xfaulz> How can I change the SSH's "Access Denied" message to something else when somebody attempts an failed login?
[17:19] <OerHeks> angs, i had bad sound too, clementine has a build-in equaliser, that freshes up soundquality
[17:19] <Ari-Yang> andry: I think I have to add this ppa https://launchpad.net/~freyja-dev/+archive/unity-tweak-tool-daily
[17:19] <Ari-Yang> :|
[17:19] <jetro_> I have gparted, but when I click on the main partition, and then the partition tab in the menu, all the options are greyed out, what do I do?
[17:19] <auronandace> jetro_: you really ought to install windows first then ubuntu
[17:19] <Ari-Yang> I'm on 12.10
[17:20] <VeloxAmbitum> windows hates sharing
[17:20] <andry> ah okay, you are on an older ubuntu :)
[17:20] <OerHeks> VeloxAmbitum, no, windows loves buying.
[17:20] <auronandace> jetro_: you won't be able to resize a partition that you are currently booted onto
[17:20] <angs> OerHeks, how can I get clementine?
[17:20] <andry> at least not ext partitions
[17:20] <auronandace> jetro_: you'll need to do the partitioning from a livecd
[17:21] <Ari-Yang> what filemanager does gnome use?
[17:21] <Ari-Yang> nemo?
[17:21] <OerHeks> angs search in your softwarecenter?
[17:21] <auronandace> Ari-Yang: nautilus
[17:21] <Ari-Yang> oh
[17:21] <jetro_> auronandace, ahh ok, that makes sense. Btw what's wrong with having ubuntu 1st then installing windows. I am following the instructions here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/179048/how-to-partition-disk-in-ubuntu-and-then-install-windows-7
[17:21] <Ari-Yang> was asking cuz I want to prevent a desktop window called nemo from launching itself when I run xrandr --auto to get a display picture with my laptop on hdmi
[17:21] <jetro_> and based on those instructions, yes grub will get wiped out, but it is easy to restore from the live cd
[17:21] <auronandace> jetro_: windows will overwrite the bootloader and you'll need to reinstall grub
[17:22] <angs> OerHeks, hanks
[17:22] <angs> thanks
[17:22] <jackarg> OerHeks apparently i don't even have the repo in my sources.list.d folder. wtf?
[17:22] <OerHeks> i love clementine, for its fast database ( over 30.000+ songs)
[17:22] <jetro_> auronandace: I can do that from the live cd with just these 2 commands right? sudo grub-install /dev/sda sudo update-grub
[17:23] <munerf> hello, i'm having connectivity issues after updating to 13.10. I've removed NetworkManager since I do not want to use gnome (its an headless machine)
[17:23] <munerf> still, I get not connectivty
[17:23] <auronandace> jetro_: i'm not sure if any chrooting would be involved too
[17:24] <munerf> shouldnt dhclient be working automatically?
[17:24] <andry> grub-install does not need chroot, but grub-update does
[17:24] <andry> well .. you dont need to update grub anyway in this situation
[17:27] <BluesKaj> munerf. you need to set up /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base , as described here http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[17:28] <BluesKaj> munerf. the settings described in /etc/resolv.conf have to be setup in  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head , in newer ubuntus' like 12.10 and up
[17:29] <hoxeni> Hi, I ssh'ed into a machine as root@10.4.2.70, when I run ifconfig there, I get the IP address 172.17.12.31. Why are the two different? Thanks
[17:29] <TKing> I am using ubuntu 12.04, Since I can't boot to Ubuntu, I did the used a liveUSB to run Boot Repair but its running "purge and reinstall the Grub" for ever how can i quit it to not break things
[17:29] <munerf> ok, after doing that I'll get auto dhcp when I connect a cable?
[17:30] <stevecoh1> setting  up VNC: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC says "If you have previously reconfigured the firewall on your PC, make sure the firewall allows incoming connections on port 22 from anywhere, and on port 5900 from localhost (also known as 127.0.0.1).  What command or ubuntu tool do I use to do this?
[17:30] <andry> hoxeni, ip addr shows you all ips
[17:30] <andry> plus their nics
[17:31] <hoxeni> When I type ifconfig, I get inet addr:172.17.12.31 I don't see 10.2.4.70 anywhere (the one I used to login)...
[17:31] <andry> type "ip addr"
[17:32] <andry> maybe the server uses vpn and the ssh is bound to a tap device
[17:32] <hoxeni> yeps... still same -> inet 172.17.12.31/24 brd 172.17.12.255 scope global eth0
[17:32] <hoxeni> don't see 10.2.4.70 anywhere
[17:33] <andry> maybe there is a router between
[17:34] <hoxeni> hmmm...ok Thanks andry :) ... Any idea what command I can use to get the IP address I used to ssh with (10.2.4.70 in this case?)
[17:35] <stevecoh1> Where do I go in ubuntu to allow the port 5900 connection for VNC?
[17:35] <andry> route -n should show the route to the 10*/8 net
[17:35] <andry> if you mean this
[17:36] <tannerstirrat> hey everyone
[17:36] <sysRPL> hi
[17:36] <andry> stevecoh1, the ports are open by default in ubuntu
[17:36] <hoxeni> hmm...ok thanks :)
[17:36] <stevecoh1> hmm, VNC Client on other PC fails to connect.
[17:37] <andry> what does "sudo netstat -tulpen | grep -i vino" give you?
[17:37] <sysRPL> is there a way to downgrade gdb? my ide of choice doesn't work well with  gdb 7.6.1 ...i'd like to try earlier versions
[17:37] <tannerstirrat> question: I'm setting up a 12.04 box as the server computer for my campus radio station, using the radio software Rivendell. I don't want to break any dependencies as a result of updating, but are there security risks associated with not updating packages?
[17:37] <andry> it should be bound to 0.0.0.0:5900
[17:38] <OerHeks> tannerstirrat, most likely, yes
[17:38] <andry> and, stevecoh1, "sudo iptables -L | grep -i input" should say "Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)"
[17:39] <Ziber> How can I get naturalscrolling on my touchpad but not my mouse?
[17:39] <jrib> tannerstirrat: yes
[17:39] <tannerstirrat> OerHeks: k, that makes sense.
[17:40] <stevecoh1> andry: it does
[17:41] <stevecoh1> But cannot connect from client.
[17:41] <andry> and it is bound to 0.0.0.0?
[17:41] <stevecoh1> andry: please explain
[17:41] <levi0x0> clear
[17:41] <Ziber> How can I get naturalscrolling?
[17:41] <andry> "sudo netstat -tulpen | grep -i vino"
[17:42] <andry> you use vino, right?
[17:42] <andry> (thats the default vnc server in ubuntu)
[17:43] <stevecoh1> I installed X11VNC
[17:43] <stevecoh1> Is that not what I want?
[17:44] <andry> do you NEED to use it? else you can just use "Desktop Sharing" that comes with ubuntu
[17:44] <stevecoh1> ok, will uninstall X11VNC.  Then how do I set up vino?
[17:45] <andry> just type in the dash "desktop sharing" (i think that is the english translation)
[17:45] <jmgk> spider_,  reply
[17:45] <andry> there are just a very few options that are easy to understand
[17:45] <cuddles> hello
[17:46] <stevecoh1> thanks, let my try this
[17:46] <lgp171188> I just enabled nvidia proprietary drivers on my saucy amd64 install. I now get the nvidia splash screen at boot time. How to disable it? There is no xorg.conf to add something like Option "nologo" "true". Any clues?
[17:47] <stevecoh1> wow, it worked!
[17:47] <BluesKaj> lgp171188. how long does the splash screen stay "on" ?
[17:47] <andry> cool :)
[17:48] <lgp171188> BluesKaj: Sufficiently long enough to be noticed during boot. Maybe for a second or two, but I am not sure.
[17:49] <BluesKaj> lgp171188. that's the price of having a good graphics card , it's good to know the nvidia driver is loading IMV
[17:50] <stevecoh1> this is over VNC!!!  Great!0
[17:50] <lgp171188> BluesKaj: In previous versions of Ubuntu and possibly previous versions of the driver, there was no splash screen. Is it recommended to generate a xorg.conf using something like nvidia-xconfig and then add the directive for disabling the nvidia splash screen?
[17:51] <jackarg> ok, does anyone here know simply how to remove medibuntu by terminal?
[17:51] <nightdrever> i have a NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-319.60.run   how do i install?
[17:51] <Ari-Yang> !nvidia
[17:52] <BluesKaj> lgp171188. sorry , don't know , the nvidia notifier is a bonus for me .
[17:53] <lgp171188> BluesKaj: I wouldn't call that a notifier. It is a blatant advertisement the likes of which aren't found in better supported OSes like Windows.
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> jackarg, using your question 2 seconds to find. http://askubuntu.com/questions/223179/how-to-remove-medibuntu-repository-and-packages
[17:53] <shauntablet> nightdrever sudo chmod a+x NVID*
[17:53] <Ari-Yang> nightdrever: with that .run file I think you have to cd into the directory where the file is in terminal, then type sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-319.60.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/version-here
[17:53] <shauntablet> Windows blows
[17:53] <Ari-Yang> oh forget what I said then, shauntablet might have done this before?....
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> !ot | shauntablet
[17:53] <jackarg> wilee-nille it doesn't work
[17:53] <Mathisen> hello im trying to get xrdp to work im connecting with a windows 8 machine but i just get a grey background with an X as a mouse pointer ... any ideas ?
[17:54] <wilee-nilee> jackarg, Its either in the sources.list or sources.list.d gksudo nautilus and remove it
[17:55] <iolaus> Hey all, I'm having an issue with an Upstart script.  The script starts the process using:     su -s /bin/dash -c "$DAEMON -f -Des.path.conf=$CONFIG_DIR" elasticsearch
[17:55] <faugusztin> Mathisen: let me guess - you are trying to use Unity, Gnome 3 or KDE
[17:55] <wilee-nilee> jackarg, when removed you have to run a update.
[17:55] <iolaus> but when I run a "ps xua" the process shows up as running under "108" rather than "elasticsearch" and the process doesn't seem to have permissions to files and folders owned by "elasticsearch:elasticsearch"
[17:56] <Mathisen> faugusztin i have installed lxde i just dont know how to make it default for xrdp
[17:56] <OerHeks> jackarg maybe peppermint is different, told you where to get support
[17:56] <Mathisen> iv also installed gnome-fallback and gnome-core
[17:56] <neverblue> hi guys, I have installed LAMP, ran sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin, configured phpmyadmin and it installed correctly, then I attempt to test the install and localhost/phpmyaadmin/ does not resolve (even restarted Apache2)
[17:56] <faugusztin> Mathisen: .xinitrc, add a line: startxfce4
[17:56] <faugusztin> Mathisen: sorry
[17:57] <faugusztin> Mathisen: it's .xsession, sorry :P
[17:57] <BluesKaj> lgp171188. well , you're entitled to your opinion , the nvidai logo flashes here for about 1/2 sec and it's good know the driver is loaded , that's my view.
[17:57] <user1> I just rebooted and I see a message when I just entered password saying "call to lusertemp failed, temporary directories full?   check your installation"   but I have 4 g free on /   .  I just checked it by rebooting to console by recovery mode, by df -h"
[17:57] <jackarg> OerHeks I don't think I need the support, you guys are fine. I think I got it, i'm editing the install-css.sh script so that it uses to videolan archive, i think that could be the solution, but i'm not sure how to do it. any help?
[17:58] <faugusztin> Mathisen: in case you are using ubuntu 13.04 or older (something with Gnome older than 3.8) then you can also use gnome-session --session=gnome-fallback
[17:59] <sophie_> I'm installing a Nvidia driver from the site and it says I need to close x server, how do I do that?
[17:59] <Ari-Yang> lgp171188: I think you need:
[17:59] <Ari-Yang> Section "Device"
[17:59] <Ari-Yang> Option "NoLogo" "True"
[17:59] <Ari-Yang> in xorg.conf
[17:59] <faugusztin> Mathisen: detailed description http://askubuntu.com/a/248541 (Create a ~/.xsession File Specifying the Desired Interface for xRDP)
[17:59] <Ari-Yang> lgp171188: try that
[17:59] <andry> ctrl+alt+f1, login, sudo service lightdm stop, install
[17:59] <andry> @ sophie_
[17:59] <wilee-nilee> !tab | jackarg
[17:59] <Mathisen> faugusztin should i create this in my home directory currently i have a .xsession with the line " gnome-session --session=ubuntu-2d
[18:00] <faugusztin> Mathisen: yes, it is the same file. What version of Ubuntu are you running ? Since 12.10, there is no ubuntu-2d
[18:00] <Mathisen> 13.10
[18:00] <lgp171188> Ari-Yang: I found that by googling, but there is no xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 directory. Not sure if it is a good idea to generate one using nvidia-xconfig and then edit that.
[18:00] <andry> you need "build-essential" which comes with the kernel headers for that, too
[18:00] <jackarg> ok let me make this clearer: does anyone here know where I can get a install-css.sh script (for libdvdcss) that uses the new videolan archive? (since medibuntu is down)
[18:00] <jackarg> wilee-nille? OerHeks ?
[18:00] <faugusztin> Mathisen: just comment out the ubuntu-2d line and add startxfce or the gnome-fallback lines
[18:01] <Ari-Yang> lgp171188: it's worth a shot, just don't mess it up by editing something. If removing the logo is worth it, go for it; otherwise just let it be.
[18:01] <kostkon> jackarg, the package has been updated. try reinstalling the libdvdcss package and then run the .sh again
[18:01] <Mathisen> faugusztin okej will try
[18:01] <Ari-Yang> lgp171188: when I say editing something ,I mean editing something that shouldn't be edited or you make a bad edit
[18:01] <jackarg> kostkon what is the exact package name?
[18:01] <faugusztin> Mathisen: but in 13.10, i can only recommend xfce, gnome doesn't run for me via VNC or XRDP
[18:01] <kostkon> jackarg, or try running it right now
[18:01] <kostkon> !find libdvdcss
[18:02] <bluechaos> hello guys
[18:02] <kostkon> jackarg, damn
[18:02] <lgp171188> Ari-Yang: The default configuration with older versions of drivers/ubuntu used to work fine without showing the logo. I have done editing of xorg.conf for the same purpose when I was using Debian.
[18:02] <saveandload_> I made a site, can i post it here admin?
[18:02] <jackarg> kostkon sorry i'm a bit confused
[18:02] <wilee-nilee> I found a deb for libdvdcss2 on the web had to search a bit is all
[18:02] <Ari-Yang> lgp171188: 'k. let me know if you did it and it worked
[18:02] <thebigredgeek> Quic question
[18:03] <thebigredgeek> I have a friend I am trying to help with his bcm4311 wireless
[18:03] <thebigredgeek> I have done this countless times
[18:03] <bluechaos> someone can't say me one vido software editor for ubuntu desktop 12.04 (png/jpg +audio ) (like proshowgold ) creating a avi from photo !
[18:03] <Ari-Yang> wilee-nilee: apt-cache search libdvdcss2
[18:03] <Ari-Yang> it's there
[18:03] <kostkon> jackarg, yeah sorry i meant to do
[18:03] <lgp171188> Ari-Yang: Yes sure. My experience tells me it should. Thanks for the help :)
[18:03] <thebigredgeek> Is there is a de-facto way to do this by recompiling the kernal with native support?
[18:03] <Ari-Yang> (on ubuntu 12.10 at least)
[18:03] <kostkon> !find install-css.sh
[18:03] <SchrodingersScat> thebigredgeek: friends don't let friends broadcom
[18:03] <saveandload_> a made a website with free saved game avalaible here http://saveandload.com/ cheers :)
[18:03] <saveandload_> *I
[18:03] <thebigredgeek> No shit, it's an old laptop
[18:03] <bluechaos> someone can't say me one vido software editor for ubuntu desktop 12.04 (png/jpg +audio ) (like proshowgold ) creating a avi from photo !
[18:03] <jmgk> spider_,  reply
[18:03] <thebigredgeek> Is there a kernal patch I can perform to get that working?
[18:03] <thebigredgeek> WIth zero config?
[18:03] <jackarg> kostkon yeah i've already installed that
[18:03] <wilee-nilee> !language | thebigredgeek
[18:04] <kostkon> jackarg, then it should use the vlc repo
[18:04] <bluechaos> I need some help !
[18:04] <thebigredgeek> Sorry about that
[18:04] <thebigredgeek> heh
[18:04] <Mathisen> faugusztin iv added the line startxfce and comented out the other one and i restarted xrdp still the same
[18:04] <neverblue> could someone help me determine why my pypmyadmin site is not working ?
[18:04] <aaron_> anyone know if they is a way to get caffeine or something similar for 13.10?
[18:04] <bluechaos> someone can't say me one video or photo  software editor for ubuntu desktop 12.04 (png/jpg +audio ) (like proshowgold ) creating a avi from photo !
[18:04] <kostkon> jackarg, the package if you are uptodate that is already set to use the vlc repo
[18:04] <thebigredgeek> so again,
[18:04] <kostkon> is*
[18:04] <SchrodingersScat> bluechaos: have you tried ffmpeg? which may or may not be avconv
[18:05] <thebigredgeek> Is there a newer kernel version that I can compile in firmware that supports bcm4311?
[18:05] <jackarg> kostkon you mean the one that's not medibuntu? ok maybe this is because i'm using peppermint based on ubuntu 12.04. could you direct me to where i can download the up to date one?
[18:05] <thebigredgeek> So that all this tinkering isn't required?
[18:05] <kostkon> jackarg, yes, the one in the repos
[18:05] <OerHeks> !bcm | thebigredgeek
[18:05] <faugusztin> Mathisen: restarting XRDP usually isn't enough, i have to usually kill the X11vnc instance and everything else which was started by xrdp
[18:05] <jackarg> kostkon, which is?
[18:05] <thebigredgeek> Seriously, I just wanted to know
[18:05] <SchrodingersScat> bluechaos: first hit for "ffmpeg photo video" on the youtube machine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_85H7b5JIQE
[18:05] <thebigredgeek> If anyone knew of a solution
[18:05] <faugusztin> Mathisen: because right now it probably reconnects to the failed session
[18:05] <thebigredgeek> That article doesn't work
[18:06] <kostkon> jackarg, use the software centre of apt-get   sudo apt-get clean and then sudo apt-get install libdvdread4?
[18:06] <aikeru> Can someone help with a suspend/resume issue for ubuntu 13.10? :)
[18:06] <Mathisen> faugusztin il just do an reboot that should solve everything then right ? its a virtual server so it goes fast
[18:06] <gordonjcp> !anyone | aikeru
[18:06] <shauntablet> Kino or kdenlive should work i think for bluechaos
[18:06] <faugusztin> Mathisen: reboot is a bit overkill, but yeah, it should do fine :)
[18:06] <OerHeks> thebigredgeek, use the STA driver, it should work
[18:06] <Mathisen> :)
[18:06] <kostkon> jackarg, i.e you wont need to install the restricted-extras again just that one small pacakge
[18:07] <aaron_> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/caffeine-developers/ppa/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[18:07] <user1>  I just rebooted and I see a message when I just entered password saying "call to lusertemp failed, temporary directories full?   check your installation"   but I have 4 g free on /   .  I just checked it by rebooting to console by recovery mode, by df -h"
[18:07] <aikeru> How can I get ubuntu 13.10 to resume after suspend? If it helps I have an HP envy m6
[18:07] <aaron_> This is what happens after I add the repository and try to update
[18:07] <aaron_> I cant install caffeine
[18:07] <faugusztin> Mathisen: there is a chance that the old XRDP in Ubuntu still won't work, in that case i recommend you to use scarygliders x11rdp-o-matic
[18:07] <wilee-nilee> !find caffeine
[18:07] <OerHeks> aaron_, that https://launchpad.net/~caffeine-developers/+archive/caffeine-dev  PPA has no saucy packages
[18:08] <jackarg> kostkon: let's make things clear: I already have libdvdread4, but it contains the install css script that uses medibuntu. So i just removed it, in hope of downloading an updated version that will contain the updated script. now if I just install it again it's gonna be the same problem
[18:08] <kostkon> jackarg, yes
[18:08] <jackarg> kostkon i'm so lost!
[18:08] <aikeru> !details
[18:08] <Mathisen> faugusztin yeah same problem still
[18:08] <aikeru> !gq
[18:09] <kostkon> jackarg, 12.04 has already the updated package. i got the update 7-10 days ago in 12.04
[18:09] <UrielVigilant> Why i cant creat a sTart up usb pen drive with ubuntu 13.10 using the tools that come with it ?
[18:09] <bluechaos> shauntablet,
[18:09] <bluechaos> now i'm will try it
[18:09] <bluechaos> !
[18:09] <jackarg> kostkon, let me just try reinstalling it
[18:09] <kostkon> jackarg, give sudo apt-get clean first just to be sure
[18:10] <jackarg> ok
[18:10] <aaron_> @oerherks is there anything similar I can use to avoid just changing power/screensaver settings everytime?
[18:10] <Mathisen> faugusztin what is scarygliders x11rdp-o-matic ?
[18:10] <jackarg> kostkon IT WORKED THANKYOU SO MUCH
[18:10] <UrielVigilant> I follow all steps on usb guide but it dont work. It says feiled
[18:10] <faugusztin> Mathisen: http://scarygliders.net/x11rdp-o-matic-central-downloads-page/
[18:10] <SchrodingersScat> UrielVigilant: I have a startup disk creator in my settings.  Accepts an image and lets me put it on a drive.
[18:10] <kostkon> jackarg, :)
[18:11] <faugusztin> Mathisen: it is a script which downloads and builds the latest XRDP, makes .deb from them and installs them
[18:11] <Mathisen> okej il purge the old xrdp then and try that
[18:11] <OerHeks> aaron_, you can use system settings >  brightness & lock, it should be persistant
[18:11] <UrielVigilant> SchrodingersScat: how i do that ?
[18:11] <jackarg> kostkon so basically the only problem was that I couldn't get the css script to work because the libdvdread4 was not updated and you say this update just occured a week ago?!
[18:11] <aikeru> I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop yesterday. I'm really enjoying it, but I cant seem to resume from suspend. When I suspend the laptop, it seems to suspend. When I try to wake it with power button, the power light comes on solid, but the screen is just black. Nothing else happens. I have an HP envy m6. I googled suspend/resume and found I could try CTRL+ALT+F1 but this didn't get any result. Pressing keys, etc. doesn't seem to work.
[18:11] <bluechaos> shauntablet,
[18:11] <kostkon> jackarg, yes. i dont know why you still had the old .sh script
[18:12] <bluechaos> I need a photo editor not a video & !
[18:12] <aaron_> Yeah, I just didnt wanna go that right.....but if thats the only way i suppose it will have to suffice for now
[18:12] <jackarg> kostkon thank you so much! i've been here close to two hours trying to figure it out!
[18:12] <Thoams_> aikeru: that'll learn ya.
[18:12] <aaron_> route*
[18:12] <kostkon> jackarg, np
[18:12] <bluechaos> to transfor from photo to avi format ! (like proshow gold )
[18:12] <bluechaos> transfer ....fucking ...beer. !
[18:13] <Thoams_> NO
[18:13] <Thoams_> my beer
[18:13] <aikeru> Thoams_ I'm sorry what?
[18:13] <aaron_> orby,
[18:13] <IdleOne> !language
[18:13] <UrielVigilant> Why startup disk creator 2.5 from ubuntu 13.10 dont work ?
[18:13] <aikeru> I was just tyring to ask a better question according to instructions :)
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> !language | bluechaos
[18:13] <DrDittersdorf> bluechaos - openshot
[18:13] <shauntablet> bluechaos yeah so you need a video editor gimp or inkscape dont do avi i dont thin maybe ffmpeg
[18:13] <MrHeavy> What's the preferred way of creating an apt repository when you're adding third-party binary packages that may not come with .changes files?
[18:14] <UrielVigilant> unebootin only lets us creat up to 13.04 and dont work for 13.10
[18:14] <aaron_> ok, one last retarded question, how do I direct my comments at particular users
[18:14] <MrHeavy> Is a simple dpkg-scanpackages with some wrapper scripts the simplest way?
[18:14] <neverblue> guys, now that I setup LAMP/phpmyadmin, im ready to start a new site. Is there any best practices documentation for Apache in starting up a new site? thanks
[18:14] <shauntablet> aaron_ type their name and tab
[18:14] <ikonia> neverblue: yeah, not using phpmyadmin is point one
[18:15] <neverblue> ikonia: why ?
[18:15] <neverblue> just command line, or another tool ?
[18:15] <ikonia> neverblue: point 2 is not hosting a website until you understand how to do it
[18:15] <aaron_> shauntablet, ok, thanks....lol
[18:15] <MrHeavy> ikonia: Ideological bias doesn't count as best practice ;)
[18:15] <shauntablet> Ignor ikonia elitest
[18:15] <ikonia> shauntablet: what ?
[18:15] <ikonia> nothing elite about it, putting a http service that connects to your database as root on the public internet.....is bad
[18:15] <kaen> just installed 13.10, how to get a clock to show up in the panel?
[18:16] <kaen> how do I*
[18:16] <neverblue> ikonia: ill assume you aren't actually trying to help and move on
[18:16] <MrHeavy> Who said anything about root? phpMyAdmin will connect with whatever credentials you tell it to.
[18:16] <jackarg> kostkon dammit my dvd still wont play
[18:16] <shauntablet> U need phpmyadmin to quickly get setup i imagine they mean a  dev box not a prod machine
[18:16] <neverblue> thanks for posting my nick in the channel, I feel self-importance
[18:16] <ikonia> neverblue: what warning you against huge security hole is not helping....yeah, I think that is
[18:16] <kostkon> jackarg, which player are you using?
[18:16] <lucido> hi, when I do xrandr --newmode why does it add this mode only to VGA-1 and not to the other outputs?
[18:16] <ikonia> MrHeavy: to administrate the instance and add/manage instances it will need to connect as root
[18:17] <MrHeavy> Surely, in this age where electronic banking and card transactions are performed across the public Internet, there must be some way to protect My Valuable Website
[18:17] <jackarg> kostkon vlc and eventually xbmc
[18:17] <neverblue> anyone else then, best practices in setting up a website (Apache) ?
[18:17] <ikonia> either way putting a http service on the net that "manages" your database is a bad idea
[18:17] <MrHeavy> neverblue: What are your actual concerns?
[18:17] <SchrodingersScat> neverblue: surprised i haven't seen anyone mention the juju
[18:17] <ikonia> neverblue: honestly, if you're asking this, you'd be better off doing some basic research and then being specific
[18:17] <MrHeavy> ikonia: Yeah, things that convert one protocol to another are awful
[18:18] <neverblue> MrHeavy: I believe creating file/folders at /var/www/ isn't best practice, simply looking into what others (with experience) do to intially setup a site
[18:18] <jackarg> kostkon the error is "DVDread could not read 3/4 blocks at 0x05"
[18:18] <ikonia> MrHeavy: I'm not actually bothered about conversion, just putting that sort of thing on the public internet is a huge security risk
[18:18] <kostkon> jackarg, try with totem.
[18:18] <hitsujiTMO> neverblue: go thru the apache docs ... if you want phpmyadmin then at least add http auth for it to add another layer of security
[18:18] <neverblue> SchrodingersScat: is juju a site ?
[18:18] <MrHeavy> ikonia: Easy enough to hide it behind an SSH tunnel and allow access only from localhost, which would be advice that's actually helpful instead of condescending
[18:19] <aikeru> Where can I find instructions on how to find ubuntu drivers for an hp laptop so I can get suspend resume working? :)
[18:19] <ikonia> MrHeavy: nothing condenscending about it - it's a security risk, I'm warning him of it
[18:19] <SchrodingersScat> neverblue: http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/tools/juju
[18:19] <neverblue> SchrodingersScat: perhaps you are referring to Cloud services ?
[18:19] <shauntablet> Are we talking a production on the internet box if so i rescind my statemet
[18:19] <neverblue> ah, you were
[18:19] <MrHeavy> Dunning-Kruger elitism is the worst elitism
[18:19] <SchrodingersScat> neverblue: gazillions of components, i'm not even sure how much that is, sounds like a lot.
[18:19] <kaen> man I've read the term Dunning-Kruger more times in the last three months than I have in my whole life
[18:20] <hitsujiTMO> neverblue: juju is a management interface for setting up services on ubuntu ... i would recommend staying clear of it until you know how to configure all the services you need yourself
[18:20] <UrielVigilant> startup disk!
[18:20] <neverblue> anyways... ill wonder somewhere else
[18:20] <UrielVigilant> usb!
[18:20] <SchrodingersScat> hitsujiTMO: but the video depicts that i will have a magic wand.
[18:20] <kaen> reminds me of when Sapir-Whorf got blogged about a few times
[18:21] <MrHeavy> neverblue: /var/www is just a directory
[18:21] <UrielVigilant> why is startup usb creator failing installation on ubuntu 13.10
[18:21] <jackarg> kostkon now totem has a different error, saying that it can't play the dvd because it doesn't have the plugins to read from disc
[18:21] <UrielVigilant> ?
[18:21] <MrHeavy> Lay things out whatever way makes sense to you
[18:21] <Thoams_> try not to chmod /*
[18:21] <MrHeavy> From your question I'm assuming you're just getting started and experimenting with the stuff
[18:22] <Thoams_> that SUCKS.
[18:22] <MrHeavy> Do whatever makes your life easy, provided it's not a risk to your system
[18:22] <Thoams_> "I can't SSH...!"
[18:22] <kostkon> jackarg, hmm. you just did that. first of all try with another dvd disc
[18:22] <neverblue> MrHeavy: i believe the is a public/private folders within the userspace to set sites up...
[18:22] <jackarg> kostkon hold on i'm installing gstreamer
[18:23] <MrHeavy> Userdirs? You can use that, or not. It depends on what you're trying to do, exactly.
[18:23] <kostkon> jackarg, install or reinstall it yes
[18:23] <MrHeavy> I've never found them much help, personally.
[18:23] <dogeatin> i got some error message in dmesg  its darmok and jalad at tanagra
[18:23] <kostkon> jackarg, gstreamer consists of a lot of packages
[18:23] <MrHeavy> They were handy in the early days of web hosting before people had domain names and stuff
[18:23] <jackarg> kostkon i'm just doing totem-plugins-extra
[18:23] <jackarg> kostkon cross your fingers :)
[18:24] <neverblue> MrHeavy: as for permissions, do I create new credentials for a user within the /var/www folder that has read/write on the folder/files for the site, or do I simply use sudo everytime ?
[18:24] <kostkon> jackarg, that package is irrelevant im afraid
[18:24] <jackarg> dammit
[18:24] <erkules> Hiho question about openstack-havana@13.10 Does it ship with the new lxc-driver? ( http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/saucy/nova/saucy/view/head:/nova/virt/lxc/driver.py)
[18:24] <MrHeavy> neverblue: Least possible privilege is generally a good idea until it makes users unable to get work done
[18:24] <aikeru> How do I find out what chipset and motherboard I have from inside Ubuntu?
[18:24] <jackarg> kostkon you are right, which package should i get then?
[18:24] <kostkon> jackarg, you would need to install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[18:24] <aikeru> (and any other common hardware for troubleshooting)
[18:25] <MrHeavy> In this case, best bet is to create a directory for your virtual host and make sure your site-admin users have permissions on it
[18:25] <MrHeavy> The rules change if you're using suexec or whatever to do credential switching
[18:25] <jackarg> kostkon i'm gonna try reinstalling it
[18:25] <fersadpo> Hi everyone. I've got some problems with apache after updating to ubuntu 13.10. It works just fine when I set in DocumentRoot default '/var/www' partition. But when I try to change it to my home partition, the browser gives me the error: 403. Can anybody tell me how to fix this problem?
[18:26] <Mathisen> faugusztin im currently in the " make " prosess of the install ... will it work right out of the box or do i need to make some changes anywhere ?
[18:26] <MrHeavy> fersadpo: You probably have a file permissions error, where you have Apache running as www-data and that user doesn't have permissions on /home/whatever
[18:26] <hitsujiTMO> fersadpo apache is updated to 2.4 in ubuntu 13.10  first thing to do is ensure that your virtualhost configs are valid 2.4 configs
[18:27] <shauntablet> ikonia u may need to check your bios acpi settings
[18:27] <ikonia> shauntablet: what ?
[18:27] <neverblue> MrHeavy: so another user or just restricted permissions ?
[18:27] <Sazpaimon_> I'm trying to configure my machine to connect to multiple openvpn servers at and route requests to them as a round robin. How can I accomplish this?
[18:27] <shauntablet> Theres different sleep modes
[18:28] <ikonia> shauntablet what are you talking about ?
[18:28] <shauntablet> Had to mess with them for os x
[18:28] <MrHeavy> neverblue: Good rule of thumb if you aren't sharing access is to create a single user with permissions to edit the contents of that directory and nothing else
[18:28] <ikonia> shauntablet: I'm not having a problem that needs acpi settings
[18:28] <shauntablet> ikonia maybe just a thought
[18:29] <neverblue> MrHeavy: running sudo all the time I want to edit the site, doesn't really make a lot of sense
[18:29] <ikonia> shauntablet: what are you talking about ??? you've just randomly said to me "check your apci settings"
[18:29] <neverblue> and what groups should it be a member of ?
[18:29] <MrHeavy> neverblue: That's the point, if you set up your directory permissions so the user can edit the website you don't need sudo for anything
[18:29] <jackarg> kostkon, doesn't work
[18:29] <MrHeavy> Except actual Apache config changes and whatever
[18:29] <fersadpo> MrHeavy: /home/whatever has rwx for all
[18:29] <jackarg> in vlc: "DVDRead could not read block 0"
[18:30] <neverblue> MrHeavy: agreed
[18:30] <jackarg> in totem, same error
[18:30] <MrHeavy> neverblue: Group memberships depend on what kind of access you need to the site. Is it read-only, or is Apache going to be writing files out?
[18:31] <MrHeavy> s/to the site/to the site directory/
[18:31] <wafflejock> ikonia: just switched to my desktop so I can actually type
[18:31] <kostkon> jackarg, it could be a problematic disc or with some unknown encryption to them or different region dvd. try a different disc
[18:31] <ikonia> wafflejock: ??? why are you telling me ?
[18:32] <wafflejock> ikonia: because now I can explain http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1138178.html
[18:32] <bluechaos> shauntablet,
[18:32] <ikonia> wafflejock: explain what ??
[18:32] <bluechaos> is not good
[18:32] <bluechaos> another one ?
[18:32] <bluechaos> u know ?
[18:32] <FloodBot1> bluechaos: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:32] <wafflejock> ikonia: so you were having problems with coming out of suspend/sleep?
[18:32] <ikonia> wafflejock: no
[18:32] <wafflejock> ikonia: or did I get the wrong nick
[18:32] <wafflejock> ah sorry
[18:32] <aikeru> waffle: I am having problems with
[18:32] <MrHeavy> hahaha
[18:32] <aikeru> suspend or sleep
[18:32] <neverblue> MrHeavy: i think I got it figured out, thanks for 'actually' helping ;)
[18:32] <MrHeavy> i wasn't sure if you were trolling or not
[18:33] <wafflejock> ikonia: my apologies
[18:33] <bluechaos> shauntablet,
[18:33] <ikonia> wafflejock: not a problem, I just couldn't figure out what was going on
[18:33] <wafflejock> aikeru: yeah so did you see the conversation I was trying to have with you
[18:33] <faugusztin> Mathisen: should work out of box, it did for me if you have startxfce4 in your .xsession file... at least id did for me
[18:33] <bluechaos> that software is not what i'm looking for
[18:34] <UrielVigilant> ok iam using unetbootin, i hope it work for 4048 ram saved to settins and all
[18:34] <bluechaos> I need a software what do this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv1AG5qzbgw can do !
[18:34] <bluechaos> but for ubuntu
[18:35] <wafflejock> aikeru: u may need to change your sleep mode settings for it to work right... I haven't encountered this issue since I got a System76 laptop and they are friendly with linux, but it's just a matter of switching S1-S2-S3 modes in the BIOS to try it out, I don't believe there's a real risk in trying but would back up anyhow before messing around
[18:35] <Mathisen> faugusztin okej thx for all the help :) lets hope it works..
[18:36] <SchrodingersScat> bluechaos: have you seen pitivi? seems to have a similar layout
[18:36] <jackarg> kostkon nope doesn't work with fight club
[18:37] <jackarg> kostkon i'm in france, maybe I should change regionset ?
[18:37] <wafflejock> aikeru: one last thing here, there appears to be a specific app for working with HP ACPI settings within linux http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man4/acpi_hp.4freebsd.html
[18:38] <jackarg> kostkon even that doesn't work
[18:39] <kostkon> jackarg, change region where exactly?
[18:40] <jackarg> kostkon idk but the regionset says it can't even read the disc so forget it...i'm completely lost
[18:40] <kostkon> jackarg, are both the drive and discs region free or region 2?
[18:41] <jackarg> kostkon, I have no idea. I don't think that's the problem though
[18:41] <kostkon> jackarg, try also in mplayer and if you get the same results then it's a hardware prob
[18:41] <jackarg> !find mplayer
[18:41] <kostkon> jackarg, many gui options for mplayer :P
[18:45] <jackarg> kostkon, i got a whole list of errors. i gtg if you want i'll send them to you in 30mn
[18:46] <kostkon> jackarg, ok
[18:47] <jetro> hey guys, I had ubuntu installed, and just installed windows. I am trying to get grub to work again. I ran the following (from ubuntu Live CD): sudo grub-install /dev/sda1
[18:47] <ray_> jetro: I assume you installed those two on different partitions?
[18:47] <jetro> but I got the error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?)
[18:48] <jetro> yes two different partitions
[18:48] <Ari-Yang> jetro: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[18:48] <Joel> thoughts on what I botched here? http://pastebin.com/2vKfsGs6
[18:48] <wilee-nilee> jetro, you can't just run that command from the live cd
[18:48] <pero> is it possible for the unity gmail webapp to show unread email count in panel icon?
[18:48] <Godspeed-123> Hello
[18:48] <jetro> Ari-Yang, that is what I am following at the moment, I ran the command they gave sudo grub-install /dev/sda1, but got an error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?)
[18:48] <Godspeed-123> Im having a serious problem with ubuntu or mint installation
[18:49] <Ari-Yang> jetro: dunno :S
[18:49] <Godspeed-123> When i try to boot from usb stick to install it hangs in cursor blinking
[18:49] <jetro> wilee-nilee, but that's what it said to do here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[18:49] <wilee-nilee> jetro, use this app, and save the bootinfo summary the url in case it does not fix it. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[18:49] <Godspeed-123> Im having same issue as in this mint linux link http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=102463
[18:49] <Ari-Yang> jetro: did you check sudo fdisk -l ?
[18:49] <hitsujiTMO> joel what version of ubuntu
[18:50] <Joel> hitsujiTMO: 12.04
[18:50] <Godspeed-123> i can only run it on problem mode with "noacpi noapic nomodeset"
[18:50] <wilee-nilee> jetro, That is from the install not the live cd
[18:51] <wilee-nilee> Godspeed-123, you running mint?
[18:51] <jetro> wilee-nilee, ohh ok, but how are you supposed to get into the install if it isn't booting lol
[18:52] <wilee-nilee> jetro, look at the link I gave you
[18:52] <Godspeed-123> wilee-nilee: no i just tested it because i didint manage Ubuntu 12.04 to work
[18:52] <Godspeed-123> it causes same issue as ubuntu
[18:52] <wafflejock> Godspeed-123: do you have a DVD option I have lots of troubles with the USB installs
[18:52] <jetro> wilee-nilee, thanks I'll try that
[18:53] <bjensen82> Um why is the nginx package in ubuntu 12.04 lts 1.1.19 when the newest stable on nginx.org is 1.4.3 ?
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | Godspeed-123
[18:53] <neverblue> have a good weekend everyone
[18:53] <Godspeed-123> Yes i do have but i dont have any dvd roms available last time i used ubuntu it worked. But i have bought new graphic card its Nvidia GTX650 i belive it has something to do with that
[18:53] <Mantissa> I'm trying to run the Opera mobile emulator but it complains that 'libQtGui.so.4' doesn't exist. Even though it does.
[18:54] <hitsujiTMO> joel have you looked at the global apache logs in /var/log
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> Godspeed-123, try the nomodeset option
[18:54] <Godspeed-123> wilee-nilee but i cant even get to installer
[18:55] <Godspeed-123> It goes to the blinking cursor
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> Godspeed-123, you would not do it there, it is an edit at the first gui, read the link
[18:55] <ray_> Anyone tried K(ubuntu) 13.10 with the fglrx driver?
[18:55] <johannfaithful> Which flavour should I use for Mac 64 or 32 bit?
[18:55] <Godspeed-123> wilee-nilee:  i go try the nomodeset
[18:56] <Thoams_> johannfaithful: orange
[18:56] <Godspeed-123> i belive i have tried it once but not sure
[18:56] <Godspeed-123> i come back when i have tested
[18:56] <Godspeed-123> thanks for help
[18:56] <ray_> johannfaithful: If your Mac has a Intel 64 bit CPU you should be ok with 64 bit I think. Then again I'm not a Mac user.
[18:57] <Joel> hitsujiTMO: ... me think's you're not great with apache :P
[18:57] <johannfaithful> ray_: ok thanks
[18:57] <Thoams_> Joel: IS or HAS.
[18:57] <Thoams_> Me think is you're
[18:57] <Thoams_> or Me think has you're
[18:57] <Thoams_> take your pick.
[18:59] <ray_> Don't tell me nobody is using Ubuntu 13.10 with FGLRX or tried it at least o.O
[18:59] <hitsujiTMO> joel, i am, just jot familiar with jserv and your config looks a bit odd considering listen 80 and NameVirtualHost *:80 is normally declared elsewhere in the default apache install for ubuntu, so i can't take anything for granted about you apache config
[19:01] <ray_> you know fglrx aka AMD/ATI Catalyst (that naming and versioning really drives me nuts btw.)
[19:02] <k3n51> Hey
[19:02] <ray_> Ho
[19:03] <wafflejock> I feel like we should break into an irish drinking song #off-topic?
[19:04] <iolaus> Hey all, I'm having an issue with an Upstart script.  The script starts the process using:     su -s /bin/dash -c "$DAEMON -f -Des.path.conf=$CONFIG_DIR" elasticsearch    but when I run a "ps xua" the process shows up as running under "108" rather than "elasticsearch" and the process doesn't seem to have permissions to files and folders owned by "elasticsearch:elasticsearch"
[19:05] <jackarg> kostkon and anyone who can help: I have trouble playing dvds on my computer, this is the ouput when playing one on mplayer. it then just fails and quits http://paste.ubuntu.com/6272263/       I have tried vlc and totem, they don't work either
[19:05] <R0b0t1> My GUI is all out of whack
[19:05] <R0b0t1> looks like windows 95
[19:05] <R0b0t1> how do I change it back to ubuntu default?
[19:07] <wafflejock> R0b0t1: uninstall KDE or TWM or XFCE then intall unity ubuntu-desktop :)
[19:07] <Godspeed-123> nomodeset didint help
[19:07] <R0b0t1> wafflejock: I am using gnome3
[19:08] <R0b0t1> And really like, wtf is going on. It keeps switching between win95-ish and ubuntu-desktop/gnome3
[19:08] <R0b0t1> I had to hardboot due to lockup
[19:08] <Godspeed-123> OK so the problem text what i can get is "Acpi Executed 3 blocks of module level executable aml code" Then I press Enter because it seems stuck then i gives few more lines ACPI interrupt link [lnkc] enabled at irq 11 And the Boot up Hangs !
[19:08] <wafflejock> R0b0t1: was just joking here's a nice list http://askubuntu.com/questions/65083/what-different-desktop-environments-and-shells-are-available I'm not sure what you mean by Gnome3 is going windows95 on you though
[19:09] <Godspeed-123> please help =)
[19:09] <k3n51> Someone here speaks portuguese??
[19:09] <CAPTAINROGER> un poco
[19:10] <R0b0t1> wafflejock, it's plain grayish colored and big ugly text etc
[19:10] <k3n51> Você conhece um outro irc? Sou nova nesse negócio de irc...
[19:10] <hitsujiTMO> !pt | k3n51
[19:11] <Godspeed-123> I can not install ubuntu on my system anymore please help
[19:11] <wafflejock_> k3n51: #ubuntu-es may be better
[19:11] <wafflejock_> ah
[19:11] <wafflejock_> or ubuntu-br was looking for it
[19:12] <LOL> hi
[19:13] <wafflejock_> helloL
[19:14] <Guest7493> are there any news about Ubuntu support on Intel Bay Trail-T/M devices?
[19:14] <Godspeed-123> K so the problem text because cant install ubuntu what i can get is "Acpi Executed 3 blocks of module level executable aml code" Then I press Enter because it seems stuck then i gives few more lines ACPI interrupt link [lnkc] enabled at irq 11 And the Boot up Hangs !
[19:15] <Godspeed-123> Windows 7 works fine but not ubuntu or mint
[19:16] <jackarg> kostkon, if you're still there, i fixed the error by pointing it to /dev/sr0 instead of /dev/dvd
[19:17] <ixio2> !ot
[19:17] <Godspeed-123> i have also tested two usb sticks one kingston and other sandisk
[19:18] <wafflejock_> Godspeed-123: unfortunately I think this looks like it might be a deeply rooted issue https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/7/20/143
[19:18] <wafflejock_> have you tried 13.04?
[19:19] <wafflejock_> also what about installing without the card installed then installing the card?
[19:19] <Godspeed-123> wafflejock_:  not yet but i tested mint 15 and same issue i updated my system with Amd FX-8150 Processor and Nvidia GTX650 and i started to get this issue
[19:20] <Godspeed-123> wafflejock_: is it my processor?
[19:20] <MountainX> Hi. After a routine update my system freezes at a black screen. I have been through all the help pages/tutorials I can find and I don't seem to have any of the usual problems. Where can I go for more troubleshooting help?
[19:20] <wafflejock_> Godspeed-123: it looks like it
[19:20] <Godspeed-123> Sad ;(
[19:20] <MountainX> Is there an IRC channel that can help with boot troubleshooting?
[19:20] <wafflejock_> Godspeed-123: I have a GTX670 and have Win 7 and OS X on that box... I can try with kubuntu and see if I hit the error
[19:21] <Godspeed-123> ok i think it must be my processor because i had nvidia card previus than this and all worked fine
[19:23] <Godspeed-123> wafflejock_: i only get the ubuntu start with noapic nolapic commands
[19:23] <Godspeed-123> but its unacceptable for me to use it
[19:23] <smrp> #raspberrypi
[19:23] <wafflejock_> MountainX: I'm not aware of a boot specific problems but you may be able to find a #grub chat or something of the sort
[19:24] <MountainX> wafflejock_: grub itself seems to be working fine.
[19:25] <hitsujiTMO> MountainX: it could help if you give us the details of the problem
[19:25] <hispeed67> sweet. i have ubuntu studio 13.10, installed and working. responsiveness is not what i would expect, probably due to lowlatency kernel. how do i use/make use of a non-low-latency kernel?
[19:25] <wafflejock_> yup +1 details, when and how is it failing
[19:26] <wafflejock_> Godspeed-123: yeah sorry sounds like you've done what you can without getting into modifying the source and compiling
[19:27] <wafflejock_> Godspeed-123: would be good to search for a bug or file one though
[19:27] <MountainX> hitsujiTMO: my problem sounds a lot like this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Freeze
[19:27] <MountainX> hitsujiTMO: My screen is 100% frozen & black. But I can ssh into the box.
[19:27] <MountainX> hitsujiTMO: it started after some minor system updates
[19:27] <iceroot> is there a way to use something like a "trim-function" on all text-contents i am putting in my buffer (ctrl +c) so that all whitespaces at the start and end will be removed?
[19:28] <hitsujiTMO> what graphics chipset are you using?
[19:28] <hispeed67> mountain: have you configured use of ctrl-backspace?
[19:28] <MountainX> hitsujiTMO: ATI HD 6700 with proprietary fglrx driver
[19:28] <MountainX> hispeed67: the keyboard is 100% frozen
[19:28] <Godspeed-123> wafflejock_: im 90% sure its my motherboard asus with 890FX chipset its Am3 motherboard but with bios update it can run AM3+ Processors what i updated FX-8150 so 890FX chipset is not really orgrinally supported but am3+ processors
[19:29] <hispeed67> what about ssh into it and reset X
[19:29] <hitsujiTMO> MountainX: can you paste the Xorg.0.log
[19:29] <audrey> i rebooted last night and when my computer started back up (lightdm as the login manager) it would kick me back to the login screen when i'd try to log in. I tried switching the login manager to gdm but now my computer hangs at a blue background with the spinning progress wheel. any ideas on what i should do to try to fix this?
[19:30] <hispeed67> kernel question: how do i *not* use the low-latency kernel that ubuntu studio installs? can i d/l the same kernel without low-latency, or do i have to compile a kernel?
[19:30] <KeyboardNotFound> Can i view is one file from my pc  is copied to usb ? are ubuntu store logs ? help please
[19:31] <iceroot> hispeed67: just install the normal ubuntu kernel (sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic)
[19:31] <wafflejock_> Godspeed-123: yeah sounds suspect, bummer the processor looks nice 3.6GHz octo-core
[19:31] <hispeed67> iceroot: thnx.
[19:31] <Godspeed-123> yes and its overclocked 4,3Ghz =)
[19:31] <Godspeed-123> Dang im forced to use this forsaken windows
[19:32] <MountainX> hitsujiTMO: here is my xorg log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6272419/
[19:32] <wafflejock_> Godspeed-123: well you wouldn't really need that processor or Graphics card in Linux though right? I mean can it run Crysis 3
[19:32] <wafflejock_> :)
[19:33] <Godspeed-123> wafflejock_: hehe well this was to be ultrafast ubuntu supercomputer :-)
[19:33] <wafflejock_> even my lowly Intel integrated 4000 or whatever can keep up with KSP
[19:34] <wafflejock_> ah well just get SSD
[19:34] <Godspeed-123> I also updated ssd also
[19:34] <wafflejock_> I can't tell the difference in microseconds
[19:34] <Godspeed-123> i suspected that first but i removed it and still same issue
[19:34] <wafflejock_> yeah I'm running SSD no problem
[19:34] <Godspeed-123> Using Sata3 V300 Kingston ssd
[19:35] <Godspeed-123> I try once more someday to try install it from DVD but i belive it does not help
[19:35] <wafflejock_>  nice think mine is Crucial, System76 Gazelle professional from Nov 2012
[19:35] <Godspeed-123> :)
[19:35] <MountainX> hispeed67: to not use lowlatency, just install the generic kernel package. Once you have that working, use the package manager to remove the low latency kernel package.
[19:36] <MGMT> anyone know the channel for picuntu?
[19:36] <MGMT> or if there is one?
[19:36] <MGMT> I'm trying to make passwd let my password be whatever I want.  keeps saying two shot
[19:36] <MGMT> *short
[19:36] <hitsujiTMO> MountainX: certainly doesn't appear to be graphics related. do you know what packages were update? /var/log/apt/history.log should identify them
[19:37] <Godspeed-123> wafflejock_: im downloading 13.10 Ubuntu to test if some miracle happens
[19:37] <wafflejock_> Godspeed-123: godspeed
[19:39]  * gregoryfenton is proud to say that I have uploaded 92586.7MB of 13.10 AMD64, 80912.4MB of i386, 18481.8MB of AMD64+MAC, 2347.8MB of AMD64+MAC server, 2985.7MB of ubuntu-13.10-server-armhf+omap4.img and all figures are rising. #sharingiscaring
[19:39] <hispeed67> gregoryfenton: dayum
[19:39] <gregoryfenton> :)
[19:39] <MountainX> hitsujiTMO: yes, I have that log file. It was a large number of packages.
[19:40] <gregoryfenton> put into perspective, that is 1-4 amd64 desktop ISOs and 90 i386 desktop ISOs :D
[19:40] <hispeed67> iceroot: that command is only showing the kernel pkgs i have installed (apt-cache search linux-kernel) not what other kernel pkgs are avail.. thinking pkg manager will show kernels available if i search for kernel?
[19:41] <gregoryfenton> s/1-4/104/g
[19:41] <hitsujiTMO> mountainx: can you paste the last update from it
[19:41] <jmgk> I'm on a MacBook Pro - CPU: 1 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2635QM - Speed: 2.0 GHz - Battery: Charged - RAM Usage: 6.7 GB / 8.0 GB [||||||||||] - Disk Space: 464.96 GB with 260.97 GB Free - Running: Mac OS X 10.8.5 (12F45) - Uptime: 2 days,  4:38
[19:41] <jmgk> oops
[19:42] <MountainX> hitsujiTMO: here is the last apt update: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6272477/
[19:44] <hitsujiTMO> MountainX: at this point i'm unsure ... sure is a lot of X related updates so could be xserver related afterall.
[19:45] <MountainX> hitsujiTMO: the strange thing is that booting into the prior kernel gives the same error
[19:45] <OerHeks> MGMT, password too short ( less than 6 char) ?
[19:46] <OerHeks> MGMT, maybe this page is your solution, you need to change pam 2 times >> http://askubuntu.com/a/180435
[19:48] <MountainX> hitsujiTMO: do you know of a way to revert all those package upgrades?
[19:53] <hispeed67> i ran 'lilo' said not installed than tried 'grub' said not insstalled. how do i find out what my bootloader is?
[19:54] <hitsujiTMO> MountainX: i have never tried to rollback packages i'm afraid so never looked into it. do you have 3 monitors connected?
[19:55] <wafflejock_> hispeed67: I think you can have no boot loader, if it isn't dual booting I think it can go right to the OS
[19:55] <wafflejock_> hispeed67: not entirely sure on this though
[19:55] <MountainX> hitsujiTMO: yes, I have 3 monitors connected. Always have on this system. No recent changes in that regard.
[19:55] <wafflejock_> ah well I have an /etc/grub.d
[19:55] <auronandace> wafflejock_: a bootloader is always required
[19:56] <BillyZane> hi
[19:56] <iceroot> is it useful to hibernate hdds when they are inside a raid10? i want to hibernat the complete array (sw-raid) or is this a bad idea for raid arrays?
[19:56] <wafflejock_> yeah kinda thought so but also replicated the no grub installed no lilo installed at the command line
[19:57] <auronandace> wafflejock_: grub or lilo isn't something you run at the commandline after you are booted
[19:57] <bekks> iceroot: suspend is - unrelated to RAID arrays, suspend does not affect them.
[19:57] <wafflejock_> auronandace: I get that but seems strange to get the message that it's just not installed when it is
[19:57] <hitsujiTMO> mountainx, unfortunately i cannot see any specific issues, maybe someone else may be able to chime in with some thoughts
[19:57] <MountainX> hitsujiTMO: thanks!
[19:58] <iceroot> bekks: ? i am talking about spin-down the single hdds
[19:58] <shay> hi,
[19:58] <hispeed67> auronandace: when i run lilo, says lilo not installed, when i run grub, says grub not installed.. just installed an additional kernel so maybe ill see the grub menu on reboot
[19:58] <iceroot> bekks: or better, spindown the complete raid-array
[19:58] <shay> gnome 3.8 is messing up with my xkb settings. Can anyone help? (Or try to?)
[19:58] <shay> (please?)
[19:58] <wafflejock_> hispeed67: check
[19:58] <wafflejock_> info grub
[19:58] <bekks> iceroot: I wont let my disks spin down at all.
[19:59] <auronandace> hispeed67: by default ubuntu uses grub
[19:59] <_graingert> can anyone recomend a good channel for recomending a good VPS?
[19:59] <iceroot> bekks: but 4 hdds 24/7/365 will result in nearly 120euro
[20:00] <iceroot> _graingert: #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:00] <bekks> iceroot: And spinning them down and turning them back on will cost: 4 new disks, since disks arent built for doing that.
[20:00] <iceroot> bekks: so i should never restart a pc, suspend a notebook, restart a notebook and so on i guess
[20:01] <bekks> iceroot: Thats not what I said.
[20:01] <wafflejock_> hispeed67: that info page is really well written, a bit shocked
[20:01] <auronandace> iceroot: bekks is referring specifically to raid arrays
[20:01] <iceroot> bekks: my questions is how to savly suspend a raid-array? as it seems the raidarray itself does not have power-controls and when i spin down a single hdd, the raid-array is damaged, so i am searching for a way to spindown safly a raid-array
[20:01] <hitsujiTMO> _graingert: maybe #lowebdbox
[20:02] <hitsujiTMO> _graingert: maybe #lowendbox *
[20:03] <bekks> iceroot: The hdd will not spin down when it is still is use for reading/writing. It will not damage the raid at all.
[20:03] <bekks> iceroot: It will damage it if you forcibly spin down a single disk.
[20:04] <iceroot> bekks: the raid-array will get out of sync when i spindown /dev/sda
[20:04] <iceroot> bekks: and i can not spindown (with hdparm) /dev/md127
[20:04] <bekks> iceroot: If you forcibly spin it down, it will damage your raid array.
[20:05] <iceroot> bekks: when /dev/sda is not there (does not matter which reason) mdadm will tell me raid of of sync i have to rebuold because sda is missing
[20:05] <bekks> iceroot: you have to set a son down timeout - for all disks in the array - and they will spin down when the raid isnt in use for the timeout value.
[20:05] <wafflejock_> iceroot: how do you figure 120 euro? that seems pretty high
[20:05] <bekks> iceroot: You do NOT spin down a single disk. For the third time saying.
[20:06] <wafflejock_> iceroot: ah I see per year
[20:07] <iceroot> bekks: and how do i spindown a complete raid-array so that all drives will spin down in the EXACT same time? i would prefer a way controlled by mdadm
[20:07] <bekks> iceroot: I just told you.
[20:07] <bekks> iceroot: you set the timeout on all disks to the same value.
[20:07] <iceroot> bekks: i dont see a command, you are talking about devices, i am talking about arrays
[20:07] <bekks> iceroot: The command is: hdparm
[20:08] <bekks> iceroot: You cant use mdadm, since you want to spin down the devices. So use hdparm.
[20:08] <iceroot> bekks: and who is telling you that all devices will be spinning down for the exact time? who says that mdadm will write (20 minutes ago) to the exact same second to all hdds? maybe one hdd is still using a cache and is writting 5 second after another one?
[20:09] <bekks> iceroot: if you are fearing that - dont use spin down.
[20:09] <wafflejock_> is 10 euros a month worth the heartache?
[20:09] <iceroot> bekks: i am just searching for something like "mdadm will control the spindown times and if mdadm wants it can use hdparm but the control itself should be coming directly from the raid-software (like i asked 3 times now)
[20:10] <bekks> iceroot: There is nothing like what you are searching for.
[20:10] <bekks> wafflejock_: No, it isnt.
[20:10] <iceroot> bekks: you decide if it is worth?
[20:10] <wafflejock_> keep it civil fellas, good thing you guys can't punch each other :)
[20:10] <bekks> iceroot: Do you accept personal opinions of other people?
[20:11] <whatsgoodcj> Could someone tell me if I can allocate more space to Ubuntu.. fuck windows
[20:11] <iceroot> bekks: if they sound useful, yes
[20:11] <IdleOne> whatsgoodcj: mind your language please
[20:11] <bekks> iceroot: Well, Everything is said, its your choice now. I am resting your case.
[20:11] <whatsgoodcj> alrighy
[20:12] <wafflejock_> whatsgoodcj: I like the attitude, just back everything up to an external drive and clean install :) you can optionally boot to a live cd and use gparted but I generally don't like to fuss with it
[20:12] <wafflejock_> whatsgoodcj: I mean minus the swearing :)
[20:12] <whatsgoodcj> But i believe i did that
[20:13] <iceroot> bekks: ok, thank you for your opinion
[20:13] <whatsgoodcj> By clean install, you mean simply install it through windows?
[20:13] <vlt> Hello. I bought a video card with an ATI Radeon HD 5450 chip (or something like that). I installed the fglrx package but still get "no adaptors present" from xvinfo and a segfault from fglrxinfo. Any idea how to troubleshoot this?
[20:13] <wafflejock_> no meant just wipe out windows install from a boot CD
[20:13] <wafflejock_> I installed windows in a VM inside Kubuntu (using VirtualBox)
[20:13] <Guest65595> High can somebody help me ?? I just installed steam on my ubuntu studio desktop..and ubuntu studio was working perfectly before this..after installing steam and some x. driver for graphics that steam wanted everything froze :O And when i rebooted i cant even get past the ubuntu studio logo before it freezes up:( I dont want to reinstall so please help me! Is there anything i can do without uninstalling steam or ubuntu studio?? Its 12.04
[20:13] <Guest65595> if it matters
[20:14] <wafflejock_> this way I still have access to Photoshop and the like when I need it
[20:14] <Guest65595>  Hian somebody help me ?? I just installed steam on my ubuntu studio desktop..and ubuntu studio was working perfectly before this..after installing steam and some x. driver for graphics that steam wanted everything froze :O And when i rebooted i cant even get past the ubuntu studio logo before it freezes up:( I dont want to reinstall so please help me! Is there anything i can do without uninstalling steam or ubuntu studio?? Its 12.04
[20:14] <whatsgoodcj> then if i ever want windows again, i need to download it illegally right?
[20:14] <wafflejock_> whatsgoodcj: make sure you have a backup though... if you have the key on your computer you can reuse it
[20:15] <bekks> Guest65595: Try to shorten your text please, so we can actually read the question. :)
[20:15] <wafflejock_> whatsgoodcj: you can get legal copies from Microsoft for a lot of stuff and just install the key  you have
[20:15] <wafflejock_> whatsgoodcj: also there's some programs you can find that will pull the key for you if you don't have a sticker
[20:15] <whatsgoodcj> 2nd hand laptop
[20:15] <DDCMI> hey ive got a question about moving my install to different drives is there anyone that can help?
[20:15] <wafflejock_> whatsgoodcj: if it doesn't work you can always call it in and they've always let me recativate
[20:15] <Guest65595> Allright.. Ubuntu Studio = Working fine>> Ubuntu studio + Steam = Freeze before ubuntu boot logo
[20:16] <whatsgoodcj> Cheers dude
[20:16] <wafflejock_> I would grab the key with one of those programs though just google for windows product key retrival cheers
[20:16] <hitsujiTMO> whatsgoodcj: what version of windows are you running?
[20:16] <whatsgoodcj> 7 baby
[20:17] <whatsgoodcj> its muck
[20:17] <Guest65595> Does anyone know what i should do?
[20:17] <wafflejock_> whatsgoodcj: eh 7 better than 8 IMO, but prefer Linux for development stuff
[20:18] <wafflejock_> Guest65595: sorry graphics driver issues and X problems span the spectrum you'll have to try and get more info
[20:18] <Guest65595> Really? no one O.o?
[20:18] <CAPTAINROGER> silly barnes and put him hostile info should be afraid; keep on
[20:18] <CAPTAINROGER> language and a stupid of his one guy Toniturs
[20:18] <kingjah> hi all....I need some help installing Ubuntu...When I boot up to my laptop I get a blank screen. When I boot up , with VGA connected I get the screen. Can any help?
[20:19] <Guest65595> How am i suppose to do that when i cant even get into ubuntu O.o? wafflejock_
[20:19] <CAPTAINROGER> Allright.. ubuntu on your Lord.
[20:19] <wafflejock_> kingjah: does your laptop by chance have a function key with a key that looks like a monitor
[20:19] <CAPTAINROGER> and I get to make a monitor
[20:19] <wafflejock_> Guest65595: have you tried Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get to a console
[20:19] <kingjah> yes waffle
[20:20] <CAPTAINROGER> Apophasis: yes waffle
[20:20] <wafflejock_> kingjah: that may help... no guarantees but I've seen that happen where for some reason the LCD/CRT toggle gets it working
[20:21] <hitsujiTMO> Guest65595: if you cannot switch terminals with ctrl+alt+f1 then reboot. while its booting hold right shift to get grub menu ... this will allow you to load recovery mode
[20:21] <kingjah> Wafflejock_: play with the LCD/CRT to see what happes?
[20:22] <mikolaj> I have a partition on my system which is owned by "root"
[20:22] <mikolaj> how can I make it available for normal storage?
[20:22] <wafflejock_> kingjah: yeah other thing I'm thinking is maybe it's for some reason using a resolution your laptop LCD doesn't support not sure though
[20:22] <kichigai> What's in your fstab?
[20:22] <bekks> mikolaj: Create a filesystem, set the permissions you want.
[20:23] <hitsujiTMO> mikolaj: where have you mounted the partition to?
[20:23] <Guest65595> Okeyy....Weell..I have tried that"!! I have tried booting normally into ubuntu....tried booting via recovery mode..tried repairing damaged packages in recovey mode..and wow what a shock that did not work either..lol.. So im reaally stuck
[20:23] <mikolaj> hitsujiTMO, in /media/user
[20:24] <mikolaj> bekks, how do I do that?
[20:24] <mikolaj> bekks, it's ext4
[20:24] <kichigai> Hey all. I'm currently in a wrestling match with the Broadcom B440x module. I'm running custom-compiled kernel 3.8.0 on x64, built on top of Ubuntu 12.04.3. My module loads fine, but the system still isn't making eth0 available.
[20:25] <iceroot> bekks: thank you for your help, i was also trying some stuff, i think you are right with your opinion so sorry for my "bad" answers
[20:25] <bekks> mikolaj: So the filesystem is created already, now just use chmod to set the permissions you want.
[20:25] <CAPTAINROGER> IRC_Homeless: u dare to use my own words, sad
[20:25] <geirha> mikolaj: sudo chown "$USER:" /media/user   # now you own it
[20:25] <CAPTAINROGER> lolcat, damn it hard and Gibbs energy of the
[20:25] <IRC_Homeless> CAPTAINROGER, what words?
[20:25] <bekks> iceroot: you're welcome.
[20:26] <comadrin> i have installed ndiswrapper and winxp linksys wireless drivers. I keep getting module ndiswrapper not found.  I documented the ifno at http://askubuntu.com/questions/362179/installing-wireless-card-no-gui-failed  - looked all over but cannot figure out where i made a mistake
[20:27] <comadrin> would anyone please point me in the right direction
[20:27] <Guest19900> i have no sound on ubuntu studio. use intel 82801eb/er (ich5/ich5r) ac'97 audio controller
[20:27] <hitsujiTMO> mikolaj: if its mounted as /media/user then: sudo chmod 777 /media/user     or: sudo chmod 1777 /media/user    if you want o+t
[20:27] <Guest65595> Guest19900 try / join # ubuntustudio
[20:28] <Guest19900> will do, thnx
[20:28] <CAPTAINROGER> speak for it will do, thnx
[20:28] <DDCMI> hey linux magicians I have a question
[20:29] <kichigai> DDCMI, and it is?
[20:29] <geirha> hitsujiTMO: chmod 777 is bad advice; set proper permissions and ownership.
[20:29] <DDCMI> I have my HTPC that has a single 1TB drive in it, running 12.10, xbmc, sabnzb, and sickbeard. the drive has a /partition and a /home partition. if possible I want to remove the drive replace it with one drive for my /partition and a RAID volume for my /home is it possible to do this and just copy the partitions to the new drives respectivly?
[20:29] <wafflejock_> DDCMI: you should be able to with DD I believe
[20:29] <kichigai> DDCMI, sure, but it would just be easier to mount the new drives, format it, do a proper copy, then unmount and remount where you want them.
[20:30] <kichigai> DDCMI, any reason that wouldn't work?
[20:30] <sangdth> hello
[20:30] <kingjah> Wafflejock_: I am able to boot to VGA (external monitor)then when I disconnect from VGA I can see desktop on internal monitor. I have a Acer Laptop Nvidia GT 650M Video card
[20:30] <kichigai> kingjah, Is there one of those "choose which screen to use" buttons on your keyboard?
[20:30] <wafflejock_> kingjah: sorry not sure what to tell ya
[20:31] <wafflejock_> kichigai: yah I was already asking about that think he tried
[20:31] <kingjah> yes...but when I was pressing I get no changes
[20:31] <mikolaj> hitsujiTMO, Thanks!
[20:31] <hitsujiTMO> geirha: I would agree in general, but for a basic user 777 might be more manageable, especially if multiple users are using the external device ...
[20:31] <comadrin> anyone mind helping with ndiswrapper?
[20:31] <kichigai> kingjah, are there any Acer button packages to install?
[20:32] <wafflejock_> comadrin: sorry it's always been a mess for me as well, lately have just checked for linux compatibility in advance
[20:32] <kingjah> Kichigai: I have no idea... Where can I find that information?
[20:32] <DDCMI> im just trying to figure out th best way to do it becuase I really dont wantto lose my setup but I need more space and want a little protection against a crash
[20:32] <kichigai> kingjah, I'd probably start here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsAcer
[20:33] <comadrin> well, my wireless card worked just find with normal ubuntu installation. I installed ubuntu server one item at a time
[20:33] <wafflejock_> DDCMI: if you have the extra drives I would use Clonezilla first to take an image of the disk
[20:33] <hanes> at mikolaj; just try it with: sudo chown -R (your_user_name) /media/user/root    and do the chmod only if nesseccary
[20:33] <comadrin> everything works perfect except for wlan0
[20:33] <geirha> hitsujiTMO: Adding a group isn't that much trouble, and it avoids non-priviledged system users getting access
[20:33] <comadrin> i know i messed up the install or config i just cannot pintpoint where
[20:33] <wafflejock_> DDCMI: then after you have that stored away you don't have to worry too much about doing the other dd copying from disk to disk or possibly even using clonezilla again it's just a gui for dd basically (and does some other networking stuff etc.)
[20:34] <comadrin> i asked on askubuntu.com
[20:34] <comadrin> last night
[20:34] <kingjah> Thank you Michigai and Wafflejock_
[20:34] <kichigai> Not to spam, but does anyone know why I can't get eth0 to show up, even though I have the right kernel modules loaded?
[20:34] <kingjah> err um Kichigai
[20:34] <kichigai> kingjah, Well, you didn't misspell it Michigan, so I'll take it.
[20:35] <wafflejock_> haha
[20:36] <DDCMI> wafflejock_: right now I have the 1TB drive in an external enclosure and have all the drives in the HTPC, im running of a live disk right now
[20:38] <DDCMI> I tried to just dd / to the new drive and the /home to the raid but it wouldnt boot
[20:39] <wafflejock_> yeah dd will just do an exact copy but won't setup the bootloader for you
[20:40] <wafflejock_> you'll still have to go through configuring grub, someone else will have to jump in if there's something else I'm not thinking of
[20:41] <Basil1x> Is it possible to get rid of Compiz?  Since the upgrade to 13.10, it's been hosing up my computer.  Freezes, weird effects, all manner of nonsense.  I'd rather not abandon Ubuntu because of it, but if it can't be fixed or got rid of, I will.
[20:41] <gmachine_24> Hello. How do I set up a keyboard shortcut? This is one of those things I knew but forgot. I want to set up, or recreate, the ability to do 'ctrl + alt + t' and have a terminal open. Yes, this once happened but has quit.
[20:41] <wafflejock_> Basil1x: you can uninstall Unity and go with a different DE so I'm sure you don't need to wipe, not sure about just pulling compiz itself though
[20:42] <wafflejock_> gmachine_24: system settings in general
[20:42] <DDCMI> I  wouldnt mind doing  a fresh install if there was a way that I wouldnt have to go through and do all the config for sabnzbd,sickbeard, and XBMC
[20:42] <wafflejock_> gmachine_24: keyboard shortcuts
[20:42] <hitsujiTMO> Basil1x: unity is built on top of compiz you you either need to reconfigure unity to a more toned down settings with unity-tweak-tool or install a new desktop environment
[20:42] <wafflejock_> gmachine_24: if you need something more advanced xbindkeys takes some work but can do more
[20:42] <sophie_> Hiya, on my Nvidia settings it says that at level 3 I have a memory transfer rate of 6008mhz, but when I run the Unigine Heavan benchmark it only shows 3004mhz, any idea why this is?
[20:43] <Basil1x> I'll just switch to Xfce.  It's annoying as hell, but I can't have my computer throwing up every time I try to use it.
[20:43] <wafflejock_> Basil1x: I'm liking KDE a lot now
[20:43] <wafflejock_> Basil1x: XFCE just feels ancient to me, though it is snappy
[20:43] <Basil1x> KDE is lovely, but is chewed up my Thunar.
[20:44] <kingjah> Kichigai: If my model is not on the list...it's not compatible right?
[20:44] <hdon> hi all :) ubuntu 12.04 question: is there a 32-bit zlib dev package i can install to /usr/lib32 with apt?
[20:44] <hitsujiTMO> Basil1x: you canalso do gnome if you want to stick to something close to unity
[20:44] <hitsujiTMO> can also*
[20:44] <Basil1x> I have no icons at all, and I refuse to use Dolphin.
[20:44] <kingjah> I tried elementary OS before this
[20:44] <gmachine_24> wafflejock_: thanks, I was hoping for the keyboard shortcuts to creating keyboard shortcuts
[20:45] <Jordan_U> kingjah: It's not that simple unfortunately. If your machine isn't on that list it means that nobody tested Ubuntu on that machine and shared their experience. It could work or not.
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> !find zlib precise | hdon
[20:45] <wafflejock_> gmachine_24: yeah it varies from different distros, I'm on Kubuntu now
[20:46] <Shirakawasuna> I'm having serious trouble booting the installation media on an ideapad s300. I've tried 13.10 (i386 and amd64) and 13.04 (amd64). All give me a black screen after I select a grub option of 'try ubuntu' or 'install ubuntu'
[20:46] <Shirakawasuna> this is a UEFI laptop
[20:46]  * hdon clicks
[20:46] <Shirakawasuna> I've tried turning on legacy mode, always get the same result
[20:46] <ekj> is anyone getting trouble installing amd_64 element os?
[20:46] <Shirakawasuna> I've also verified the md5sum of each ISO and tried using both the built-in usb stick creator and unetbootin
[20:46] <hitsujiTMO> Shirakawasuna: try booting with nomodeset
[20:46] <Shirakawasuna> So... any ideas? Any ways I can edit the grub menu to get it to work?
[20:47] <Shirakawasuna> hitsujiTMO: will do!
[20:47] <FabianCook> Hey guys, can someone direct me to a ubuntu mobile IRC?
[20:47] <hitsujiTMO> FabianCook: #ubuntu-touch
[20:47] <FabianCook> I should have figured -.-
[20:49] <hdon> MonkeyDust, well according to packages.ubuntu.com, the supported architectures are "amd6 i386" however my package only contains the former binaries
[20:49] <zykotick9> Shirakawasuna: have you tried nomodeset?  see "/msg ubottu nomodeset" for details.
[20:49] <hdon> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3300453
[20:49] <OerHeks> !uefi
[20:50] <Joshiewowa> Does anyone here know if there is a webpage or something where people have compiled a list of all known ubuntu compatible laptop models?
[20:50] <MonkeyDust> hdon  maybe you need ia32 libs multiarch
[20:50] <OerHeks> !hcl
[20:50] <Joshiewowa> Thanks.
[20:51] <hdon> MonkeyDust, i'm not exactly familiar with ubuntu, what do you mean?
[20:51] <mordonez> Hi guys, for some reason when I login it takes me back to the login screen again, I am using Luna os, and I don't know what logs to see
[20:51] <mordonez> any help is very appreciated
[20:51] <Shirakawasuna> Well I'm getting something now, at least
[20:51] <Shirakawasuna> the display is very wonky
[20:52] <Shirakawasuna> the ubuntu UEFI guide doesn't have nomodeset, or any other boot options. Super annoying.
[20:52] <OerHeks> mordonez, luna os could have its own issues. we don't know.
[20:52] <Shirakawasuna> It appears I've gotten to a corrupted terminal, not X / the installation dialog
[20:53] <MonkeyDust> hdon  never mind my comment, it's no longer there in saucy
[20:53] <hitsujiTMO> mordonez: this is ubuntu support, try #elementary for luna os support
[20:53] <OerHeks> mordonez, joint #elementary
[20:53] <mordonez> thanks
[20:53] <OerHeks> -t
[20:53] <hdon> MonkeyDust, i'm on 12.04
[20:55] <DJAMBA> hey.. i'm having a problem with my interfaces on ubuntu server 13.04 ... i have 2 ethernet cards installed, and recently configured the 2nd NIC with a static address in /etc/network/interfaces ... i can ping the addresses of both interface cards, but only when the original NIC is plugged in. If I move the wire to the 2nd NIC, i can't ping it .. its as if the interfaces are bridged, but...
[20:55] <DJAMBA> ...there's no bridge config there.. any ideas?
[20:55] <MonkeyDust> hdon  yeah, try installing ia32-libs-multiarch
[20:55] <hitsujiTMO> DJAMBA: can you paste the config?
[20:56] <DJAMBA> of /et/network/interfaces?
[20:56] <hitsujiTMO> yes
[20:56] <DJAMBA> sure.. 2 secs
[20:57] <bekks> ifconfig -a from the guest.
[20:57] <hitsujiTMO> you can use pastebinit to make things easier: cat /etc/network/interfaces | pastebinit
[20:57] <bekks> and VBoxManage showvminfo ...
[20:57] <Shirakawasuna> also I don't think nomodeset is working
[20:57] <Shirakawasuna> the terminal is super garbeled, but definitely high-res
[20:58] <hitsujiTMO> Shirakawasuna: if nomodeset aint helping, try acpi=off
[20:58] <DJAMBA> http://pastebin.com/k0zxytXJ
[21:00] <tankerkiller125> Some one please help when I try to login to my account on my new ubuntu install it starts to but then boots me strait back to the login. I've tried multiple solutions to this problem but none seem to work
[21:00] <Shirakawasuna> hitsujiTMO: no luck, still garbled stuff
[21:01] <k1l> tankerkiller125: see if the .Xauthority file belongs to your user in your users home (and not root)
[21:01] <hitsujiTMO> Shirakawasuna: can you try ctrl+alt+f1 to change tty?
[21:01] <Shirakawasuna> hitsujiTMO: nomodeset is progress - instead of nothing, I get a garbled loading screen, then a garbled tty
[21:01] <Shirakawasuna> hitsujiTMO: yes and it's instant
[21:01] <Shirakawasuna> which seems like kms to me
[21:02] <tankerkiller125> How would I go about checking that file all I have access to is the terminal
[21:02] <txithihausen> Hi fellows, I'm dealing with a problem to compiling a make-based project on my ubuntu 13.04. Everytime I get the following error during configure phase: "configure: error: zlib or zlib header file not found, please install it"
[21:02] <hitsujiTMO> is tty1 garbled?
[21:02] <k1l> tankerkiller125: see "ls -al" in your /home
[21:02] <hitsujiTMO> Shirakawasuna: switching tty would be expected to be instant
[21:03] <txithihausen> Nevertheless, even I have installed zlib1g-dev package it doesn't work
[21:03] <txithihausen> Anybody has faced such a similar problem?
[21:04] <DJAMBA> I've just updated the pastebin with a bit more info, yuo can see the arp cache just has the one MAC address, but ifconfig shows that they are 2 seperate interfaces..
[21:04] <tankerkiller125> Ok hold on I'm booting my Ubuntu machine now
[21:04] <hitsujiTMO> DJAMBA: config does look ok ofc, i'm not familiar with how having 2 interfaces on the same lan segment affects networking tho
[21:04] <jrib> tankerkiller125: what are you compiling?
[21:04] <jrib> txithihausen: what are you compiling?
[21:04] <DJAMBA> http://pastebin.com/tuQxdLAM
[21:05] <txithihausen> omnet++ (http://www.omnetpp.org/)
[21:05] <tankerkiller125> Not me I'm working on a login problem
[21:05] <jrib> tankerkiller125: you need to install the -dev packages for zlib
[21:05] <jrib> !compile | tankerkiller125
[21:05] <jrib> ergh
[21:05] <jrib> !compile | txithihausen
[21:06] <ErnstEmine> hello. How can i join  the german ubuntu chanel?
[21:06] <wylde> !de | ErnstEmine
[21:06] <OerHeks>  /join #ubuntu-de
[21:06] <hitsujiTMO> DJAMBA: something weird going on there ... both ips are going to the same mac address
[21:06] <txithihausen> jrib and ubottu I've already check that
[21:06] <ErnstEmine> thank you1 danke schön :)!
[21:07] <jrib> txithihausen: what do you mean?  You've already installed the -dev package for zlib?  What did you install exactly?
[21:07] <tankerkiller125> I'm not compiling anything I can't login to my ubuntu computer because I login but it throws me back at the login screen and yes the .Xauthority file is there
[21:07] <Shirakawasuna> hitsujiTMO: tty1 is garbled
[21:08] <txithihausen> I installed the build-essentials and its dependencies. I have also installed the omnet package dependencies.
[21:08] <jrib> !who | tankerkiller125
[21:08] <jrib> txithihausen: you need to install the -dev package for zlib
[21:08] <hitsujiTMO> Shirakawasuna: do you know what hardware you are running? particularly gfx, very unusual to see tty1 as being garbled
[21:08] <txithihausen> jrib, sure. I did that.
[21:09] <jrib> txithihausen: what exactly did you install?
[21:09] <hitsujiTMO> DJAMBA: does the same thing happen if eth1 is assigned to a different subnet?
[21:09] <tankerkiller125> k1l: I have a .Xauthority file
[21:09] <Shirakawasuna> hitsujiTMO: I think it's intel hd4000
[21:09] <txithihausen> I installed zlib1g-dev package
[21:09] <Shirakawasuna> hitsujiTMO: it's an ideapad s300 - some celeron-quality cpu + graphics stuff
[21:09] <OerHeks> txithihausen, maybe this page is any help with required dev packages >> http://pharos.ece.utexas.edu/wiki/index.php/How_to_Install_OMNeT%2B%2B_4.2.2_on_Ubuntu_12.04
[21:10] <k1l> tankerkiller125: yes, but does it belong to your user:user  or to root:root when you put "ls -al" in a tty?
[21:10] <jrib> txithihausen: pastebin full input and output of your compile attempt.  Include "apt-cache policy zlib1g-dev"
[21:10] <tankerkiller125> How would I tell
[21:10] <DJAMBA> i'll try it..
[21:10] <tankerkiller125> k1l: How would I tell weather it's root or mine
[21:10] <k1l> tankerkiller125: you are logged into a terminal? or are you in  tty konsole?
[21:10] <iceroot> could someone explain this to me? i expected to see my 5 hdds in /dev/disk/by-uuid/ but i only see 4 (and all with different uuids). i want to use the uuids in hdparm.conf and that wants /dev/disk/by-uuid/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/6272947/
[21:11] <txithihausen> DerHeks, thank you for your help. But i've already tried this.
[21:11] <txithihausen> jrib, just a moment please
[21:11] <iceroot> ah, sda1 instead of sda but still one drive is missing
[21:11] <tankerkiller125> k1l: the ctrl + alt + F1 whatever that one is
[21:11] <hitsujiTMO> Shirakawasuna: celeron 887 will have a lot of difficulties running unity. can you try booting lubuntu or xubuntu installer?
[21:12] <OerHeks> iceroot is see : sda sdb sdc sdd sde = 5
[21:12] <iceroot> OerHeks: and on ls i see 4
[21:12] <Shirakawasuna> hitsujiTMO: I've also tried xubuntu
[21:12] <Shirakawasuna> hitsujiTMO: same thing
[21:12] <k1l> tankerkiller125: ok, that is a tty. that is fine. login with your user and then type "ls -al" into it. that will list all the file and folders and will show the owner and the group owner
[21:12] <Shirakawasuna> hitsujiTMO: It's not even failing at unity - it's failing at tty1
[21:12] <Shirakawasuna> and at boot
[21:13] <iceroot> OerHeks: and i am expecting 5 in /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[21:13] <k1l> tankerkiller125: so in the line with the .Xauthority file does it say your username twice or does it say "root" twice at the beginning of that line?
[21:13] <OerHeks> iceroot odd, i would expect sde too, but it shows the  UUID_SUB= only ?
[21:13] <tankerkiller125> k1l: My username twice
[21:14] <txithihausen> jrib, look http://pastebin.com/UwxfTPd9 and http://pastebin.com/iEifjXPU
[21:14] <txithihausen> jrib, it's important to mention that i'm using gcc/g++-4.6
[21:14] <k1l> tankerkiller125: ok. that was my first guess, that this error could be caused by a wrong ownership. but your user is fine
[21:15] <iceroot> OerHeks: i am not sure how /dev/disk/by-uuid/ is working, sd[a-d] are on the same controler, sde is on another controller but still i would expect all 5 drives there. maybe i will find something different for hdparm instead of /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[21:15] <tankerkiller125> k1l: Ok and I also can't use guest account or anything like that either just to let you know
[21:15] <txithihausen> since if I compile againts gcc-4.7 it fails with "unable to find string literal operator ‘operator"" LL’" problem
[21:16] <OerHeks> iceroot, maybe your pointer is in md volume, what if you "cd to " that sde partition, does it show correct ?
[21:16] <hitsujiTMO> Shirakawasuna: i understand that. i'm running on similar hardware here and not getting any such issues ( P 987 ). i'm at a loss at where the problem is. but it would be interesting to see if the issue is also on ubuntu server ( its a console only install ) as this would be a simple way of ruling out if xserver is involved in the issue if it happens here too
[21:16] <DJAMBA> so, i moved a machine onto a different subnet, and tried again but still no joy.. the interfaces are being really strange..i had a vibro interface there from virtualbox, so don't know if its put some strange config somewhere..
[21:16] <k1l> tankerkiller125: what model and make is that pc/laptop? what videocard? did you use encryption?
[21:16] <iceroot> OerHeks: the partition itself is fine (sde = / and encrypted swap)
[21:16] <Hundred> i'm bored
[21:16] <Shirakawasuna> hitsujiTMO: hmm
[21:17] <jrib> txithihausen: why do you feel it's important to mention that?  Are you not using gcc from the repos?
[21:17] <hitsujiTMO> DJAMBA: both ips are still on the same mac?
[21:17] <tankerkiller125> k1l: No encryption HP a1700n 4GB DDR2 memory module and Radeon HD 6570 And Just finished installing the drivers and rebooted when this happened
[21:17] <iceroot> OerHeks: but i also dont get why the uuids are different. i have the uuid for /dev/sda1 and the UUID-SUB ( i was building the array on /dev/sda1 partition) so blkid is not working with /dev/sda but that is ok
[21:18] <OerHeks> iceroot, this is over my head, not sure where to look for :(
[21:18] <txithihausen> jrib because i have to downgrade gcc to version 4.6 since it not breaks with  "filereader.cc:596:59: erro: unable to find string literal operator ‘operator"" LL’"
[21:19] <OerHeks> There must be a simple explanation for it.
[21:19] <jrib> txithihausen: how did you downgrade?
[21:19] <txithihausen> apt-get install g++-4.6
[21:19] <iceroot> bekks: btw, hdparm is set to spindown sd[a-d] all on 20 minutes, this is the result :) but the array is still working, so everything is fine, mdadm is waiking up the missing 2 hdds before doing any action but still wired http://paste.ubuntu.com/6273004/
[21:19] <k1l> tankerkiller125: so it worked. you installed the drivers (which driver and where from?) and after a reboot it doesnt work?
[21:20] <txithihausen> and set it on a omnet configuration file
[21:20] <tankerkiller125> Yes the drivers where from the official amd support site here http://support.amd.com
[21:21] <k1l> tankerkiller125: :/
[21:21] <k1l> tankerkiller125: ubuntu ships drivers which are made compatible with ubuntu. you should always prefer those and not load anything from other sites
[21:22] <tankerkiller125> k1l: Ok so how would I go about removing the amd drivers
[21:23] <DJAMBA> eth1 now has an IP of 1.1.1.2, and I plugged another machine in with 1.1.1.1 - but cannot ping it
[21:23] <k1l> tankerkiller125: sorry im not familiar with the amd drivers. im not sure if that installer got a remove command.
[21:23] <k1l> tankerkiller125: maybe someone in here knows that
[21:23] <tankerkiller125> k1l: Ok well I'll check google first
[21:25] <wafflejock_> DJAMBA: what's doing the routing?
[21:25] <hitsujiTMO> DJAMBA: but is the system still showing both ips on the one mac in the arp cache?
[21:25] <bekks> iceroot: whats weird?
[21:27] <DJAMBA> wafflejock_: not doing any routing, just set up a laptop and plugged it directly into nic2 (eth1) with ip's of 1.1.1.1 & 1.1.1.2
[21:27] <Jordan_U> DJAMBA: Please pastebin the complete output of "ifconfig".
[21:28] <iceroot> bekks: so many... :)
[21:28] <wafflejock_> DJAMBA: yeah just tracked back the conversation some didn't see your posts earlier
[21:28] <DJAMBA> updated the pastebin with ifconfig.. http://pastebin.com/kbcyhQ7r
[21:29] <iceroot> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6273038/  different uuids, not all hdds are sleeping, the array is still alive :) but i will stop thinking about it, its doing what i want so i am happy but its really confusing me
[21:30] <DJAMBA> i removed a vibro interface earlier in case it was interfering
[21:30] <iceroot> and 5 min was only for testing, i will switch to 30 min
[21:30] <bekks> iceroot: putting your disks down that often will shorten their lifetime a lot.
[21:30] <hitsujiTMO> DJAMBA: i'm afraid i've never experienced anything like this issue before so i'm gonna have to chime out. good luck
[21:30] <DJAMBA> no problem hitsujiTMO thanks for your time
[21:30] <Jordan_U> DJAMBA: So you have two different ethernet interfaces on completely different networks. What is the ip address of the computer you're trying to use to ping 1.1.1.2 ?
[21:31] <DJAMBA> Jordan_U: 1.1.1.1
[21:31] <Jordan_U> DJAMBA: And are these two computers connected via a switch, a single ethernet cable, or a router?
[21:31] <DJAMBA> single cable
[21:31] <hitsujiTMO> jordan_u: it's djamba's arp cache that seems the interesting part of the problem
[21:32] <war59312> well "shutdown" is broken in 13.10. That is, when I click the "shutdown" button at the top right, nothing happens. Waited half an hour to be sure.
[21:33] <Nolt> hello
[21:34] <Nolt> need a hand with fixing splash screen in Ubuntu 13.10, anyone got working fixo for this ?
[21:34] <tankerkiller125> k1l: Thanks for your help and a little google now it works
[21:34] <war59312> so what's the cleanest way to shutdown and poweroff ubuntu via command line?
[21:34] <Jordan_U> DJAMBA: Can you pastebin the output of ifconfig from the other machine?
[21:34] <hitsujiTMO> war59312: sudo poweroff
[21:34] <Jordan_U> war59312: sudo shutdown -h now
[21:34] <wafflejock_> DJAMBA: a crossover cable?
[21:35] <MonkeyDust> war59312  sudo init 0
[21:35] <k1l> tankerkiller125: fine
[21:35] <wafflejock_> DJAMBA: I think you need a switch otherwise
[21:35] <DJAMBA> when i plug the eth0 interface into the switch, and i have the /etc/network/interfaces as per the paste bin then i can ping eth1 but only when eth0 is plugged in, and  my arp cache only shows eth0 - but the ifconfig shows 2x MAC addresses :S
[21:35] <DJAMBA> yeah, crossover, the link lights up
[21:35] <wafflejock_> DJAMBA: ah k
[21:36] <et09> i upgraded from raring to saucy - my nvidia GLX has stopped working totally
[21:36] <war59312> thanks guys... going to try "sudo shutdown -h now" . Without the h it never powers off.
[21:36] <et09> glxinfo returns about 200 lines of "Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display":0"."
[21:36] <tankerkiller125> Is it possible for me to like just move my current ubuntu install and all it's files to a different hard drive
[21:36] <TKing> please i am trying to reinstall ubuntu but my HDD has backup partition where i stored file, when i go to the advanced option to install in dev/sdb2(ext) it gives error that no root file system is defined? i do not want to format the whole drive but reinstall in same place without altering partition but still install in dev/sdb2 ext4
[21:36] <adamx> On the same computer, tankerkiller125?
[21:36] <et09> tankerkiller125: yes, if you resync grub and stuff
[21:37] <et09> or whatever else is applicable
[21:37] <adamx> Could clone it over et09
[21:37] <nolt_> anyone ? could help me with splash screen ?
[21:37] <wafflejock_> tankerkiller125: clonezilla I keep saying it but it will work if you have 3 drives you can move from source to backup to destination... or you can go direct I believe but I prefer having backups
[21:37] <Jordan_U> TKing: You need to set the mountpoint of the partition you want to be your root partition to '/'.
[21:37] <hitsujiTMO> et09 whats output of: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep "(EE)"
[21:37] <tankerkiller125> wafflejock_: Thanks I'll try it
[21:37] <jrib> tankerkiller125: does configure get past zlib when you use 4.7?
[21:38] <DJAMBA> Jordan_U: the other machine is a windows box, but its just a static ip configured 1.1.1.1 / 255.255.255.0, and pinging from windows to linux, so no firewall issues :)
[21:38] <Jordan_U> nolt_: Start by desctibing what exactly happens when you boot, and what you expect to happen instead.
[21:38] <et09> king1337-2: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7075655
[21:38] <tankerkiller125> jrib: ?
[21:38] <war59312> no luck, still no power off.. looks like -P may be a better choice...
[21:38] <jrib> txithihausen: does configure get past zlib when you use 4.7?
[21:38] <jrib> tankerkiller125: sorry.
[21:38] <tankerkiller125> war59312: try sudo shutdown
[21:39] <txithihausen> jrib, with gcc 4.7 the configure phase works fine. It breaks on compilation phase
[21:39] <nolt_> Jordan_U: simply no correct splash screen after boot (installed nvidia-325 from edgers ppa)
[21:39] <nolt_> i found some solutions with hwinfo but there is no any package like this in 13.10
[21:39] <Jordan_U> nolt_: What do you mean by "no correct splash screen"? What do you see at boot?
[21:40] <jrib> txithihausen: can you explain why you can't use 4.7?
[21:40] <TKing> Jordan_U i clicked change and selected Mount as "/" but under the menu "Device for boot loader installation" the option is /dev/sdb1
[21:40] <nolt_> when my ubuntu boots I got wierd splash screen, tiny dots and above them text Ubuntu
[21:41] <Moonlightning> So what's 17.10 gonna ba called?
[21:41] <hitsujiTMO> nolt_ did you look at this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#Boot_Splash_Screen_Issues
[21:41] <txithihausen> jrib, when I try to compile with gcc-4.7 it fails with the following error  => http://pastebin.com/AcWwj7en
[21:41] <Jordan_U> DJAMBA: Try using a proper ip address for a link local network, like 10.0.0.1 instead of 1.1.1.1
[21:42] <tackleremote> Installed Ubuntu Server. Used sudo commands a lot, no problems. I come back 5 days later (no one else has logged in) and all of a sudden my main (and ONLY) user is no longer in sudoers. What gives? Is this normal? I can't guess why I wouldn't be sudoer any more. There's no way to admin this server now.. :/
[21:42] <nolt_> hitsujiTMO: nope, are you sure its work fine in 13.10?
[21:42] <war59312> tankerkiller125: Ended up using "sudo shutdown -P now". :) Worked perfectly. :D Thanks guys!!
[21:42] <Guest76858> how can i ensure i have correct/optimal video driver? im using intel 82865 integrated graphics
[21:43] <Jordan_U> nolt_: That's expected when you install proprietary drivers, since the propritary drivers don't support the KMS that Plymouth needs for a full splash screen.
[21:43] <nolt_> hitsujiTMO: can't find package startupmanager
[21:43] <nolt_> Jordan_U: so what shall I do? what drivers are the best ?
[21:43] <Moonlightning> tackleremote: what does `sudo -l` give you?
[21:43] <hitsujiTMO> nolt_ your the first i've seen with the issue with saucy tbh ... seems to have been a common issue in the past
[21:44] <tackleremote> Moonlightning: "Sorry, user delorean may not run sudo on Kontoret."  Kontoret is of course the server and delorean is the user
[21:44] <txithihausen> jrib, I saw on https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/cython-users/0CYqw2cRFlg that is it due to c++ needs a space between string concatenations
[21:44] <nolt_> this issue was in 12.04, 12.10, 13.04. 13.10
[21:44] <nolt_> so i got it all the time
[21:44] <BrianH> UGH ... I wish there were a fix for this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/system-config-kickstart/+bug/1236315
[21:44] <Moonlightning> tackleremote: and you're sure no one else had sudo access?
[21:44] <txithihausen> So, it seem like the omnet is not compatible with gcc-4.7 yet
[21:45] <Moonlightning> I'm assuming too that you didn't set the root password?
[21:45] <Jordan_U> nolt_: If you want fully pretty splash screen with Nvidia graphics then you need to use nouvea (the driver Ubuntu will use by default). There are advantages and disadvantages to the various drivers.
[21:45] <pero> my Gmail Unity webapp still has the Chromium icon - any ideas?
[21:45] <tackleremote> Moonlightning: Yes, this just a regular Ubuntu Server install, I have only set passwd for this user.
[21:45] <tackleremote> during install
[21:45] <txithihausen> jrib, I could try to fix each file with problem but it could raises other problems. Due to that, I tried to compile againts gcc-4.46
[21:45] <hiseed78> Jordan_U,  how do  see what driver im using? i have intel onboard graphics
[21:45] <txithihausen> ops... 4.6
[21:46] <Bozza> Anybody with a reddit account who can upvote a question of mine?
[21:46] <Moonlightning> That's weird. It seems to me you wouldn't just suddenly lose sudoer status; someone would have had to go in and do it
[21:46] <MonkeyDust> Bozza  wrong channel
[21:47] <nolt_> Jordan_U: I know, but there is workaround that was fixing this issue in propritary drivers but since hwinfo package was deleted from saucy idk what to do ;/
[21:47] <Moonlightning> Bozza: don't ask for upvotes
[21:47] <Moonlightning> If you want upvotes, post good stuff.
[21:47] <Moonlightning> Never ask.
[21:47] <Moonlightning> If you ask for any kind of votes, the only kind you should get is downvotes. :V
[21:47] <Moonlightning> and|or flags.
[21:48] <Bozza> But it's keanus AMA
[21:48] <Moonlightning> No.
[21:48] <Bozza> And I was 15 minutes late
[21:48] <Moonlightning> If it's good, people will upvote
[21:48] <Moonlightning> don't ask for upvotes.
[21:48] <hitsujiTMO> bozza this is the ubuntu support channel ... this is not the propper place for such questions
[21:49] <et09> man i'm about to ditch ubuntu
[21:49] <Bozza> This isn't Ubuntu support... THISS ISSS SPAAAARTTTTAAA
[21:49] <Bozza> JK :3
[21:49] <et09> what's up with this release schedule
[21:49] <Patero-ng> hello I have a question is it normal for 13.04 to turn off my video signal and hang up when the live version on persistance runs out of space after attemping to install all requeried updates?
[21:49] <hiseed78> is there a proprietary driver for intel graphics?
[21:49] <et09> hiseed78: xserver-xorg-video-intel
[21:50] <MonkeyDust> et09  better explain what's bothering you
[21:50] <tackleremote> Moonlightning: I'm retracing my steps, and this tuesday I installed vsftpd, haven't sudoed after that. Looks like I got the same as this guy: http://askubuntu.com/questions/230690/lost-sudo-privileges
[21:50] <lisp_noob> Hi, I can't use my right USB port on my Dell XPS 13 after upgrading to 3.2.0-55. Can anyone help me?
[21:50] <et09> i upgraded from raring to saucy - now all my GLX apps are failing
[21:50] <et09> glxgears, nexuiz, etc.
[21:50] <et09> all with the error Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0".
[21:50] <tackleremote> Scary how installing vsftpd can strip your sudo status.. doesn't make sense though.
[21:50] <et09> tried everything google suggests, nothing
[21:50] <hiseed78> how do i check what driver X is using?
[21:50] <nolt_> brb I will got a try some fix and tell if it works ;)
[21:51] <et09> hiseed78: i think jockey-text -e video
[21:51] <hitsujiTMO> tackleremote: if you type "groups" is sudo in the list of groups you belong to?
[21:51] <tackleremote> hitsujiTMO: Nope
[21:52] <Patero-ng> somebody help
[21:52] <timg_> hi, is there a console programm to run 2 blocking programs at the same time and push the stdout of both to the stdout?
[21:52] <lisp_noob> Hi, I can't use my right USB port on my Dell XPS 13 after upgrading to 3.2.0-55. Can anyone help me?
[21:52] <tackleremote> hitsujiTMO: The groups I have are just "delorean www-data" - delorean being my username. Is the main user usually a part of www-data? Or could this be some case of mistaken user identity? *cue dramatic music*
[21:53] <bekks> lisp_noob: Maybe it is broken.
[21:53] <hitsujiTMO> tackleremote: did you use usermod -G at some stage?
[21:53] <Jordan_U> timg_: ( command1 & command2 &)
[21:53] <tackleremote> hitsujiTMO: Bingo, I did, must've messed that up..
[21:54] <Moonlightning> You didn't do `sudo usermode -G www-data delorean`, did you?
[21:54] <Moonlightning> usermod *
[21:55] <devn> The instructions for creating a bootable USB stick for a macbook pro seem to be incorrect. I've tried like 15 times now. Archlinux's image works fine, but using the instructions from Ubuntu to make the bootable USB stick just seem flat out wrong. Can anyone comment?
[21:55] <tackleremote> Moonlightning: yeah that's probably what I did
[21:55] <Moonlightning> Because as far as I can tell, that replaces your groups, rather than adding to them.
[21:55] <devn> Does anyone here run Ubuntu and OSX on a macbook pro?
[21:55] <timg_> jordan, make watchCss & make watchJs & should work?
[21:55] <everald> Hi. What are you using to access Android 4 phone storage? We have been using go-mtpfs on Ubuntu 12.04. But there are no packages for Ubuntu 13.10 now, and nautilus in Ubuntu 13.10 has somewhat better support out of the box.
[21:55] <hitsujiTMO> tackleremote: its usermod -aG  to append a group, usermod -G will overwrite the groups .... one thing you can do is boot to recovery mode, or live usb and edit /etc/groups and add yourself to the sudo group... be careful tho, backup groups file first
[21:56] <everald> It only allows to copy files within nautilus, though, not preview or open them, pity.
[21:56] <tackleremote> yeah I'll have to do that
[21:56] <Jordan_U> devn: Are you trying to boot said USB drive from a mac or from a BIOS based machine?
[21:56] <devn> mac
[21:57] <hiseed78> how can i tell what video driver im using in X?
[21:57] <Moonlightning> tackleremote: lesson: don't use user{add,del,mod} if you could use {add,del}user
[21:57] <Moonlightning> also: double-check manual pages.
[21:57] <Meris> devn, what model MacBook do you have?
[21:57] <Patero-ng> I just asked a question is it normal for ubuntu 13.03 live to crash when it runs out of space while installing update from scratch
[21:57] <devn> Meris: early 2011
[21:57] <devn> Macbook Pro
[21:57] <hiseed78> Moonlightning, im writing furiously
[21:57] <Moonlightning> hmm? XD
[21:57] <Jordan_U> devn: And you followed http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx ?
[21:58] <devn> Jordan_U: yeah, those instructions are just straight up wrong
[21:58] <devn> or at least that's what i'm starting to suspect
[21:58] <Jordan_U> devn: What image did you download?
[21:58] <devn> Jordan_U: I've tried a lot of them
[21:58] <devn> I've tried with the amd64+mac 13.04, and 12.10 isos
[21:58] <Meris> !mac > devn
[21:59] <tackleremote> Moonlightning, hitsujiTMO: You don't happen to know what groups a fresh install main user usually is part of? Other than its own username and sudo?
[21:59] <Jordan_U> devn: Did you use the standard 64 bit Desktop iso?
[21:59] <devn> Jordan_U: yes
[21:59] <hiseed78> !mac  > hispeed78
[21:59] <hitsujiTMO> hiseed78: look at your Xorg log in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:59] <devn> Jordan_U: i have yet to see it show up in the list of devices i can boot.
[22:00] <Jordan_U> devn: The +mac and the 32 bit isos don't have any [U]EFI support, so those definitely won't work but the standard 64 bit image should.
[22:00] <hiseed78> tackleremote, adm, cdrom, sudo, audio, dip, plugdev, lpadmin, $USER, sambashare
[22:00] <hitsujiTMO> tackleremote: well all i can say is my current user has: adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[22:00] <hiseed78> mine is fresh install of ubuntu studio. last hour or so.
[22:00] <tackleremote> <thanks guys!
[22:00] <devn> Meris: that was helpful. this might get me further.
[22:00] <devn> "Installation only works when you use BOTH a CD-rom installer with a USB-installer in the machine at the same time. "
[22:00] <devn> Yeesh
[22:01] <gordonjcp> devn: o_O
[22:01] <devn> friggen nuts
[22:01] <tankerkiller125> Can any one help me with booting my linux? Every time I boot it i have to goto the boot edit and change quiet splash or whatever it it to nomodeset how would I do this so that it already is set and ready to do this
[22:01] <Meris> devn, yes, the Apple church was so "friendly" to use a non-standard (U)EFI instead of a standardised one.
[22:01] <devn> Meris: :(
[22:02] <hiseed78> hitsujiTMO, *looks* like vesa
[22:02] <hiseed78> \
[22:02] <hitsujiTMO> tankerkiller125: what graphics chipset are you using and what drivers are being loaded
[22:02] <Nolt> well I found a solution how to fix splash screen that works for me
[22:03] <Meris> devn, please tell me what this command shows you: sysctl hw.model
[22:03] <tankerkiller125> hitsujiTMO: Radeon HD 6570 and opensource from ubuntu it won't run with the other configuration or the screen just glitches and then goes black
[22:03] <Meris> devn, that is a command from within MacOSX...
[22:05] <devn> Meris: I'm on 8,2
[22:06] <hitsujiTMO> tankerkiller125: i certainly do not recommend moving away from radeondriver unless you had to. have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 for info that might help
[22:07] <devn> Meris: I'm doing some non-standard stuff which may complicate this whole thing further for me. I have a new SSD that I dropped into my optical bay.
[22:07] <devn> I *think* refind will allow me to boot from that drive, but I'm not so sure
[22:07] <gordonjcp> devn: should do
[22:08] <tankerkiller125> hitsujiTMO: I was forced to becuase it wouldn't let me login other wise
[22:08] <devn> Right now I have my first SSD in the main slot with an OSX install on it. The second drive in my optical bay is going to be split 50/50: Ubuntu on one half, OSX on the other.
[22:08] <devn> gordonjcp: do you boot rom your optical drive?
[22:08] <devn> from*
[22:08] <Meris> devn, what I did was this: I used BootCamp to "install Windows" <= Yeah, right ;-) After that I started from my bootable Lubuntu CD (Mac, 64 Bit). ReFit did the rest for me
[22:08] <gordonjcp> devn: I haven't booted anything from an optical drive for 20 years
[22:09] <gordonjcp> devn: I've had my macbook a couple of years and only recently discovered it *had* an optical drive...
[22:09] <devn> heh
[22:10] <devn> i have the optical that was in this machine in an external enclosure
[22:10] <gordonjcp> oh, no, wait
[22:10] <gordonjcp> my PS3 has an optical drive, but that's not really general purpose computing hardware ;-)
[22:10] <gordonjcp> I don't think I've owned a computer with an optical drive this century
[22:11] <Meris> devn, I need to sleep now. Good luck in getting your preferred *buntu to install (btw, I own a MacBook from 2007 (MacBook 2,1) )
[22:11] <gordonjcp> yup
[22:11] <gordonjcp> I'm using a Macbook 3,1 mostly
[22:12]  * gordonjcp -> bed
[22:12] <raven_> Hi, does anyone know if there's actually any way to play Silverlight videos on Linux
[22:12] <devn> thanks for the help Meris
[22:12] <wafflejock_> raven_: wine
[22:12] <gordonjcp> devn: http://www.rodsbooks.com/ubuntu-efi/
[22:12] <wafflejock_> raven_: there's a netflix package you can get that does the firefox+silverlight install
[22:12] <Meris> devn, nvm, good luck
[22:12] <MonkeyDust> raven_  there used to be Moonlight, not sure if it's still maintained
[22:13] <raven_> wafflejock_ I tried wine but it starts to load the silverlight video and doesn't go anywhere
[22:13] <gordonjcp> devn: you need either the Mac version of the iso, *or* an ordinary ISO with an EFI booter
[22:13] <wafflejock_> literally you add the PPA then do an install netflix-desktop
[22:13] <wafflejock_> haven't tried outside of Netflix, so YMMV
[22:13] <gordonjcp> devn: and what you do is you install the booter on the stick and drop the iso into a subdirectory
[22:13] <raven_> wafflejock_ and the netflix package won't let you navigate away from netflix. I need it for something else
[22:13] <gdos> my etho device (through network manager) won't connect after upgrading. forced to use wireless instead, which is odd. suggestions?
[22:14] <wafflejock_> I can navigate away
[22:14] <wafflejock_> just ctrl+l
[22:14] <gordonjcp> devn: when rEFInd solves your problems, don't forget to make a donation ;-)
[22:14] <MonkeyDust> gdos  it's eth0, not etho
[22:14] <raven_> wafflejock_ if that is the case, I know that the netflix app is a packaged firefox/wine. If I install it will I screw up my existing wine installation
[22:14] <wafflejock_> raven_: sorry dunno I wasn't previously using wine
[22:14] <wafflejock_> was using virutalbox for my windows needs
[22:15] <wafflejock_> er am using
[22:15] <raven_> wafflejock_ I see. I don't want to screw with it because it's running Photoshop CS2 flawlessly.
[22:15] <wafflejock_> yeah Photoshop is the reason I have VirtualBox, so I can get stuff from designers
[22:15] <wafflejock_> well and do some design tweaks here or there
[22:16] <raven_> I don't like having to load up a VM just to use one program
[22:16] <wafflejock_> raven_: SSD eases the pain and I don't use it much
[22:16] <kostkon> raven_, check out pipelight
[22:17] <raven_> hmmmm kostkon
[22:17] <raven_> that looks tasty
[22:17] <raven_> But I am stupid I don't know how to install via tar.gz
[22:17] <kostkon> raven_, http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/pipelight-020-released-with-multi.html
[22:18] <kostkon> raven_, btw they don't mess with your default wine installation
[22:18] <wafflejock_> kostkon: nice
[22:18] <raven_> kostkon okay thanks
[22:19] <raven_> let me try this
[22:19] <raven_> I see how I can install via apt
[22:19] <kostkon> raven_, they use their own wine bottle i.e. their own folder and not .wine
[22:19] <wafflejock_> raven_: look for instructions but generally speaking you can just unzip the tar then run an installer file
[22:19] <wafflejock_> to install via apt they will have to provide a repository or be in the main repositories
[22:21] <wafflejock_> ah nice yeah they have a ppa
[22:21] <R0b0t1> Hi, my GUI settings like window title font and color are changing sporadically
[22:21] <R0b0t1> how do I stop it from doing that
[22:24] <wafflejock_> R0b0t1: it sounds like something is messed up with your themes maybe?
[22:24] <Patero-ng> I just asked a question is it normal for ubuntu 13.03 live to crash when it runs out of space while installing update from scratch
[22:25] <wafflejock_> Patero-ng: 13.04?
[22:25] <Patero-ng> 114
[22:25] <Patero-ng> yes
[22:26] <iceroot> Patero-ng: out of space = no memory?
[22:26] <wafflejock_> Patero-ng: you mean you chose to install updates during install and it consequently ran out of space?  I haven't seen this before but usually skip getting updates initially so I can get into the system quicker then deal with updates after first boot
[22:26] <iceroot> Patero-ng: because the live system is only inside your ram
[22:27] <Patero-ng> no persistance space
[22:27] <Patero-ng> the problem is not that it rans out of space Is that it disconnects the video signal and crashes
[22:28] <Patero-ng> wafflejock_   I'm not installing it is a live run
[22:28] <R0b0t1> wafflejock_, what can I look under?
[22:28] <R0b0t1> wafflejock_: and sense when would it change of its own volition
[22:28] <R0b0t1> since
[22:30] <wafflejock_> R0b0t1: yeah I have no idea why it would change, would just be in system settings, either Theme or Appearance depending on the exact distro
[22:30] <wafflejock_> R0b0t1: I would just try something different, other thing I've seen go wonky is having problems with compiz (this was a while back) at the time I could switch to metacity and it did better, hasn't been an issue for a couple of years though
[22:31] <k1l> Patero-ng: you cant upgrade a live system from 13.04 to 13.10
[22:31] <wafflejock_> Patero-ng: yeah you are running the whole system in RAM
[22:31] <Patero-ng> k1l  I want to update to the latests patches on 13.04
[22:31] <wafflejock_> Patero-ng: so any software installs or whatever are going to eat up your RAM at some point I imagine it will crash
[22:32] <wafflejock_> Patero-ng: guess it would be nice if it somehow woudl warn you of this but you have very limited resources off a liveCD just using the CD drive itself, RAM, Processor but not touching the HDD really
[22:32] <Patero-ng> well it crashes also while not doing any update I can run a live system and it will crash is been going on every single time I create a 12.04 13.04 or 13.10
[22:33] <Somelauw> Does anyone know. If I can add a partition with storage to a usb that has been created by unetbooting?
[22:34] <k3n51> Hey! Do someone know about any other irc channel? Irc is new to me... xD
[22:35] <iceroot> !alis | k3n51
[22:35] <OerHeks> Somelauw, you could, when you make that live usb, not sure how to do that afterwards
[22:36] <Somelauw> OerHeks: Ok, so if I shrink the usb afterwards I destroy the bootable part?
[22:36] <OerHeks> Somelauw, no, i think you need to unmount that usb to do so, so you would need an 2nd live usb
[22:37] <raven_> For those of you that are interested I've installed pipelight and it works flawlessly.
[22:37] <Somelauw> Nope, I'm already running from my harddisk.
[22:37] <raven_> If you want to play microsoft silverlight videos in whatever browser in Linux, install pipelight.
[22:37] <OerHeks> thanks raven_, and have fun
[22:37] <Somelauw> I just want to put some documents on it
[22:37] <Somelauw> because my other usb's are broken
[22:37] <Somelauw> but I want to keep my linux image
[22:37] <fallingmeat> Hello coding wizards. I am creating a linked list in C with the amount of nodes as an input. When I try to instantiate a HUGE (ie, 4294967295) number, my PC crashes. However, I think I'm using calloc correctly and this should not happen. Any ideas? Code: http://pastebin.com/4JqB6Zs2
[22:38] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | fallingmeat
[22:38] <OerHeks> Somelauw, fastest way is to remake that live usb + "space used to preserve files.."
[22:39] <k1l> !alis | fallingmeat i think you should look out for a c channel
[22:39] <robin__> Hi guys can i ask for litte help here?
[22:40] <k1l> !details | robin__
[22:40] <robin__> of course
[22:43] <robin__> Iḿ runnig ubuntu 13.10 and i have a dualboot issue. I have a ubuntu installed on an external usb disk and after i installed ubuntu my computer dont boot without that usb disk, can I get it the boot direct into windows 8.1 when the disk is unplugged
[22:44] <hitsujiTMO> robin__ you need to install grub to the external disk, and run windows fixmbr on your windows install
[22:45] <k1l> robin__: i think you need to fix the windows bootloader on the internal hdd. (fixmbr from the windows cd)
[22:45] <wilee-nilee> robin__, You overwrote the windows boot on the computer you have two problems replacing it and putting grub on the external.
[22:46] <k1l> robin__: if you set the pc to boot form usb first it will detect that usb drive and take the grub from ubuntu to boot (if the grub is installed into that usb hdd)
[22:46] <robin__> sry new to this how do i install grub on the extarnal disk
[22:47] <robin__> external*
[22:47] <gdos> my eth0 device (through network manager) won't connect after upgrading. forced to use wireless instead, which is odd. suggestions?
[22:47] <Guest77421> hello guys. How do i see via terminal which program is using the disk read/write?
[22:48] <hitsujiTMO> robin__: boot into ubuntu, find out what /dev/sd refers to the usb hdd then: sudo grub-install /dev/sdX
[22:48] <k1l> robin__: grub-install and set the usb drive as target
[22:48] <hitsujiTMO> once thats done, boot windows and run fixmbr
[22:49] <wilee-nilee> robin__, You can fix the external first by booting to its desktop. Run sudo fdisk -l and confirm it's HD letters like sdb for example and then run sudo grub-install /dev/sdX && sudo update-grub X is it's HD letter here just find what it is.
[22:50] <robin__> will ty it
[22:50] <wilee-nilee> robin__, YOu have a recovery or install disc for the windows?
[22:51] <robin__> i have disc with windows 8.1 prewiew
[22:52] <wilee-nilee> robin__, cool as k1l suggested you will boot it to its repair command line and run bootrec /fixmbr
[22:53] <robin__> okay thanks
[22:54] <wilee-nilee> robin__, For the record you can buy a 8.1 activation key and activate that 8.1 if it is not already.
[22:54] <wilee-nilee> if it's the preview install
[22:55] <robin__> i will when i get my paychek
[22:55] <wilee-nilee> robin__, Cool, I'm a 99% linux user but W8 s not a bad OS, I use it for word mainly.
[22:56] <zhanx> ok off the wallish question i want to install ubuntu on my x86 tablet.
[22:57] <giirt> Test
[22:57] <zhanx> what are the build steps for compiling for an x86
[22:57] <hitsujiTMO> zhanx: have you got a usb port on the tablet?
[22:57] <wilee-nilee> zhanx, should work, some have had to mess with the touch controls is all.
[22:57] <hitsujiTMO> zhanx: theres an x86 iso
[22:58] <zhanx> wilee-nilee: , hitsujiTMO OTG cable in enroute.
[22:58] <robin__> I ' m a windows user to 99% but fastboot and adb to my phone dont work in windows so I installd ubuntu:) I think i will give it a real try
[22:58] <zhanx> its an asus MeMo smart 10
[22:58] <k1l> robin__: but be aware that the usb-transfer costs alot of speed.
[22:58] <hitsujiTMO> zhanx: thats not x86
[22:59] <zhanx> think grub2 will install on a tablet
[22:59] <wilee-nilee> zhanx, You might consider the #ubuntu-touch channel there is a saucy install for phines and tablets.
[22:59] <zhanx> thanks wilee-nilee
[22:59] <chaotic_good> word word word
[22:59] <wilee-nilee> phones*
[22:59] <k1l> !guidelines | chaotic_good
[23:01] <wafflejock_> raven_: awesome
[23:02] <freannrak> i'm trying to configure trackpoint/trackpad speed (the little button/nipple between the keys), but with no luck. Using 12.04 on HP Folio 9470m. I've also tried gpointing-device-settings, but no success. Any suggestions?
[23:02] <robin__> kil: i 'm aware of that but i need to start some were  right no i have som problems with ubuntu that I dont no who the fix yet maybee after that it will be my main system
[23:03] <g0bl1n_> what is the "default" IM app for 13.10 ? Empathy ? Pidgin ?
[23:03] <Guest77421> hello guys. How do i see via terminal which program is using the disk read/write?
[23:03] <wafflejock_> Guest77421: iotop
[23:03] <everald> How can I turn off the MTP (Android 4 mounts) handling in Nautilus?
[23:03] <k1l> g0bl1n: empathy, i think
[23:04] <everald> It interferes with go-mtpfs.
[23:05] <g0bl1n_> wondering how to change the contact list view on empathy...
[23:05] <gdos> my eth0 device (through network manager) won't connect after upgrading. forced to use wireless instead, which is odd. suggestions?
[23:06] <wilee-nilee> gdos, idetify the ethos hardware to the channel by using lspci to find it.
[23:06] <Guest77421> wafflejock_ thank you!!!
[23:06] <wafflejock_> Guest77421: np I stumbled on all these tops the other day
[23:06] <uroyanme> I forget the command to login into a MUD, for ubuntu. Not 'telnet carrionfields.net' but #session carrionfields.net?
[23:06] <wafflejock_> Guest77421: ntop powertop iotop htop
[23:07] <uroyanme> My apologies, but I've been afk for 6 months.
[23:07] <Guest77421> wafflejock_ hehehe
[23:08] <chaotic_good> reiserFS for the WIN
[23:08] <chaotic_good> so anyone here actually been burned by reiserFS?
[23:09] <uroyanme> OMG it was telnet.
[23:09] <chaotic_good> seems totally superior FS
[23:09] <uroyanme> Thanks for listening =) Good day.
[23:09] <g0bl1n_> Seems that Google Chrome can't be installed on 13.10. Dependencies issues ?!
[23:09] <thinknow> how to make the command sudo ' /etc/init.d/openvpn start " start at startup? as well as type in password for vpn?
[23:09] <wafflejock_> I'm sort of FS ignorant, I hear ZFS is a big thing now apparently and butterFS or something for SSD
[23:09] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | chaotic_good better to hold such a convo in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:09] <k1l> chaotic_good: last warning now: keep this channel clear for ubuntu support. you should have read the guidelines now quite often
[23:10] <wafflejock_> g0bl1n_: perhaps try chromium
[23:10] <g0bl1n_> wafflejock_, yes, have ir already
[23:10] <Dougie187> Does anyone know if it's possible with LVM to split a directory off into it's own partiton?
[23:10] <g0bl1n_> wafflejock_, use several browsers for testing, etv
[23:10] <g0bl1n_> wafflejock_, use several browsers for testing, etc
[23:10] <wafflejock_> g0bl1n_: ah k gotcha sorry still on 13.04 can't help
[23:11] <hitsujiTMO> g0bl1n_: run: sudo apt-get -f install    after you install the chrome .deb
[23:11] <g0bl1n_> wafflejock_, I stepped up today, from 12.04 to 13.10 :)
[23:11] <g0bl1n_> hitsujiTMO, installing the chrome .deb reports a dependency error
[23:12] <wafflejock_> nice I switched from Unity to KDE (Ubuntu -> Kubuntu) in 13.04 dust is still settling so I don't feel the need to push up to 13.10 yet
[23:12] <giirt> test
[23:12] <hitsujiTMO> g0bl1n: yes fix it with: sudo apt-get -f install
[23:12] <hitsujiTMO> g0bl1n_: ^
[23:13] <xtriz> i find aptitude more efficient and easier than apt-get, but why very few people use aptitude compared to apt-get ?
[23:13] <pero> my Gmail Unity webapp still has the Chromium icon - any ideas?
[23:14] <k1l> xtriz: apt-get is the standard for ubuntu (and aptitude has/had problems with multiarch)
[23:14] <wafflejock_> xtriz: I've literally never used aptitude, apt-get is just how I've always seen it done
[23:15] <wilee-nilee> pero, Is there a right click properties for it, and what icon do you want?
[23:15] <pero> i was hoping there was a way  for it to have a dynamic icon based on unread emails or something akin to that
[23:16] <MonkeyDust> !aptitude | xtriz here's why
[23:16] <wilee-nilee> pero, Not sure I have not used it and don't use unity, I run my gmail through thunderbird
[23:17] <pero> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/gmails.jpg
[23:17] <pero> i don't get that submenu either
[23:17] <pero> the whole unity-webapp thing is very flaky
[23:18] <wilee-nilee> pero, Don't they tell you how to have that work
[23:18] <pero> no
[23:18] <pero> For example, add GMail and you get fancy Gmail options in the Launcher and Messaging Menu;
[23:18] <pero> yeah that tells me everything
[23:18] <wilee-nilee> pero, use nicks here, you can tab complete them. Is it supposed to be that way stock?
[23:19] <g0bl1n_> hitsujiTMO, can't seem to work, always complaining with dependencies
[23:19] <pero> wilee-nilee - based on the quote i just pasted that's what it looks like after "adding"
[23:20] <wilee-nilee> pero, Have you modified unity or compiz?
[23:20] <hitsujiTMO> g0bl1n_: can you paste the exact errors
[23:20] <g0bl1n_> yes
[23:20] <pero> wilee-nilee, i'm sure i touched something but nothing crazy - i'm also running a relatively clean since 13.10 but i did keep /home so some of the settings persist
[23:21] <stevecoh1> From some ancient system mine is descended from via many upgrades, I have a /boot partition that I don't want.  I'd rather /boot live under the main partition.  If I use gparted, I can merge the two but would lose all the content of /boot.  My plan to avoid this is to mkdir /BOOT; cp -R /boot/*  /BOOT; do the gparted thing.  Then mv /BOOT /boot.  Will this work or will I screw myself up?
[23:21] <Dougie187> Does anyone know where I can get information on LVM? I'm trying to migrate my /home dir to another partition without reformatting, but I don't know if it's possible.
[23:21] <wilee-nilee> pero, I would try a unity reset http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/reset-unity-and-compiz-in-ubuntu-13-10/
[23:21] <g0bl1n_> hitsujiTMO, Dependency is not satisfiable: lib32gcc1 (>=1:4.1.1)
[23:22] <hitsujiTMO> g0bl1n_: try: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install
[23:23] <Jordan_U> stevecoh1: That will work if after you mv /BOOT/ /boot/ you run "sudo grub-install /dev/sdX" (where X is the drive, *not* partition, that your BIOS will boot from) and "sudo update-grub".
[23:23] <Jordan_U> stevecoh1: Also, you'll want to update your /etc/fstab and remove the entry for /boot/.
[23:24] <pero> wilee-nilee, that did some funny stuff to my res - let me reboot
[23:24] <hitsujiTMO> g0bl1n_: sorry, i think i know what the problem is, are you running 32bit ubuntu?
[23:24] <wilee-nilee> pero, yeah reboot
[23:24] <g0bl1n_> hitsujiTMO, yes
[23:25] <Jordan_U> Dougie187: I don't think LVM is directly relevant to that question, it works under the filesystem level and so knows nothing of individual directories.
[23:25] <Jordan_U> !separatehome | Dougie187
[23:25] <Jordan_U> Dougie187: Why do you want to move your home directory to a separate partition?
[23:25] <hitsujiTMO> g0bl1n_: this is a bug with the chrome .deb ... the wrong dependency is listed ( the 64bit one ) it's a known bug and is being worked on: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=304017
[23:25] <stevecoh1> thanks, Jordan
[23:26] <hitsujiTMO> g0bl1n_: you will have to wait until google release a fix deb
[23:26] <Dougie187> Jordan_U: because I usually do that when I install ubuntu, but I was stupid last night when I installed 13.10 and didn't setup a separate /home partition (I typically use to for "easy" migration to new versions). But I selected to use LVM, as it sounded kind of neat, and then I couldn't figure out how to create a separate /home with it after I selected it.
[23:26] <Jordan_U> stevecoh1: You're welcome. Be sure to have a LiveCD/USB on hand still in case anything goes wrong.
[23:27] <g0bl1n_> hitsujiTMO, ;) thank you
[23:27] <Jordan_U> Dougie187: Ubuntu's installer will allow you to re-install while preserving the /home/ directory, no need for a separate /home/ partition/volume.
[23:28] <Dougie187> Jordan_U: Oh really? i didn't realize that.
[23:30] <everald> What's the best way to run a predefined program as root, without asking for a password?
[23:31] <hitsujiTMO> everald: when do you want it to run?
[23:31] <everald> As part of a script.
[23:31] <hitsujiTMO> when is the script running?
[23:32] <everald> i.e. I click on an icon that runs the script, the script will use go-mtpfs to mount the mobile phone, after being done with the program, the script will unmount the mount point,
[23:32] <everald> by way of a wrapper or whatever that will run umount as root/.
[23:33] <hitsujiTMO> everald: you can add it app into the sudoers list
[23:33] <everald> That will not ask for the user pw?
[23:33] <hitsujiTMO> everald: http://askubuntu.com/questions/39281/how-to-run-an-application-using-sudo-without-a-password
[23:33] <H1FuelCell> I can't type...
[23:33] <everald> Thanks hitsujiTMO
[23:33] <H1FuelCell> hmm, my message isn't going through for some reason
[23:34] <H1FuelCell> ~/.tmp and /tmp both get cleaned up on boot, is that right?
[23:34] <hitsujiTMO> H1FuelCell: yes
[23:34] <k1l> H1FuelCell: yes, that is what tmp is for
[23:35] <H1FuelCell> cool, thanks :) I'll store my temporary file backups in there
[23:35] <kingpunk> anyone ever have any luck getting netflix working?
[23:37] <hitsujiTMO> kingpunk: lookup pipelight ... worked for a user earlier
[23:38] <everald> What's wrong with this entry in /etc/sudoers?: everald ALL = NOPASSWD:/opt/local/bin/umount-android
[23:39] <everald> When I run /opt/local/bin/umount-android as everald the umount command that it runs tells me that I'm not root.
[23:39] <hitsujiTMO> put a space after NOPASSWD:
[23:39] <everald> hitsujiTMO, I did that at first. Same result.
[23:40] <hitsujiTMO> everald you mean need to relog
[23:41] <everald> Relogin? Well, after "su - everald" from a root prompt, same thing happens.
[23:42] <hitsujiTMO> are you calling /opt/local/bin/umount-android   wuth sudo?
[23:42] <everald> Ah stupid. Sorry.
[23:42] <hitsujiTMO> np
[23:43] <everald> Heh.
[23:45] <g2k> Hello?
[23:46] <g2k> does anyone know how to use the terminal to copy files?
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> g2k:  cp file1 file2
[23:46] <hitsujiTMO> cp oldfile newfile
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> bash basics ;)
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> !bash
[23:47] <pero> anyone know how to get the icons for unity web apps? my gmail icon in the panel has some settings-looking thing, but in dash it's good
[23:47] <g2k> not quite what i need. lemme explain
[23:48] <g2k> i have music in my music folder set up as artist/album/song.mp3
[23:49] <g2k> i want to have xubuntu search all folders in /user/Music/ and copy the *.mp3 files to a new folder
[23:49] <Dr_Willis> thats a little vague. give a specific example
[23:51] <wafflejock_> g2k: so you want to flatten the folders basically?
[23:52] <wafflejock_> er rather copy to a new folder that has the full list? or you want to recreate the folder structure?
[23:52] <g2k> i dont want cp /home/user/Music/acdc/hells_bells/hellsbells.mp3 because then i would have to do that for every song
[23:52] <pero> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=find+all+files+in+a+tree+and+copy+them+to+a+single+folder
[23:53] <g2k> i want it to extract any .mp3 from all the various folders(album then artist) in my music folder and place the .mp3's into a new folder
[23:54] <pero> http://superuser.com/questions/477480/how-can-i-recursively-copy-all-pdf-files-in-a-directory-and-its-subdirectories
[23:54] <Dr_Willis> thats sounds like what pero and  flatening the folders mean basically.
[23:54] <jrib> g2k: use find
[23:54] <g2k> gimme a second while i look at the links provided
[23:57] <everald> How to best make my script available in Unity?
[23:57] <everald> Add an entry on the Unity "launcher bar"_
[23:57] <everald> ?
[23:57] <everald> Somehow make it be found in the dash home?
[23:59] <pero> wilee-nilee, that helped to an extent; i have the rightclick submenu but no icon still - it's some setttings-looking thing instead
[23:59] <hitsujiTMO> everald: you could also make a .desktop to the script
[23:59] <dominic_> hello