[03:35] <fcuevas> hepl
[03:35] <fcuevas> help
[03:36] <fcuevas> xfce4-volumed doesn't start on startup
[03:40] <fcuevas> heko
[03:40] <fcuevas> help
[13:35] <rainy_day> hello
[13:36] <cfhowlett> rainy_day, greetings
[13:37] <rainy_day> :) I.. had a question about application menu snafus on 13.10... not quite sure if this is the appropriate place to ask. :)
[13:40] <cfhowlett> rainy_day, it is.  ask.
[13:41] <rainy_day> alright so I am trying to use alacarte to modify the menu items. However when launched normally alacarte seems to be unable to add new menus, or add new items to menus (other than "other")
[13:41] <rainy_day> launching it from gksudo makes it look like it does changes but those changes never work. I was wondering if this is a known problem with workaround, or if there was a way to edit the menu file in another way.
[13:43] <rainy_day> (as context I upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10, and I do seem to be running into these gtk-critical errors on alacarte and gedit and several other programs... so entirely possible it is linked to it... but kind of lost as to how to proceed in debugging at that point)
[13:46] <zequence> rainy_day: running it as sudo means running it as root, so those changes would only be seen if you logged in as root, graphically
[13:46] <zequence> I haven't messed a lot with that, but there may be some problems between alacarte and XFCE. The changes you make end up in the user home folder
[13:47] <zequence> There may be different formats between alacarte and what XFCE/ubuntustudio-menu is looking for
[13:48] <rainy_day> well it is adding the file just not to the right place as user... are they supposed to end up in my home configuration or supposed to be top level?
[13:49] <rainy_day> I have been trying to hunt down the correct file... but nothing looks like my current menu (and strangely nothing seems to be modified with my upgrade or since, even through I did make some edit of existing menu items - which worked- and removed a few items -which also worked-)
[13:51] <zequence> rainy_day: Those are user settings, so they should end up in the user home folder
[13:51] <zequence> The files end up in the right place, but there may be a problem between formats
[13:51] <zequence> using sudo, as said, is not going to help
[13:52] <rainy_day> I can modify them manually and alright.
[13:52] <rainy_day> ok let me see if I can hunt the file down on home directory. thank you very much cfhowlett and zequence
[13:54] <cfhowlett> rainy_day, best of luck to you.
[13:55] <rainy_day> :)
[16:26] <uno> hi everybody, how to change my user account picture on my ubuntu studio
[16:26] <uno> ?
[16:46] <florianf> good evening. i just upgraded ubuntu studio 13.04 to 13.10 and am still stuck with the 3.8 lowlatency kernel. is this normal behaviour?
[16:47] <wilee-nilee> florianf, sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:47] <florianf> hmm, thought the GUI upgrade did all that for me..
[16:47] <florianf> thanks, ill try it
[16:48] <wilee-nilee> worth a try is all
[16:48] <florianf> just installed the 3.11 lowlatency kernel manually
[16:48] <florianf> hope i didnt break anything
[16:49] <florianf> well, gonna test the 3.11 now.. hope i still boot
[16:49] <florianf> thanks
[16:50] <wilee-nilee> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/RealTimeKernel just info good luck
[20:25] <aaa__> Hey does anyone have 5 - 10 mins to help me out with something?
[20:27] <aaa__> anyone?
[20:28] <aaa__> Heyhey
[20:28] <Guest19900> i have no sound on ubuntu studio. use intel 82801eb/er (ich5/ich5r) ac'97 audio controller... any ideas?
[20:29] <Guest19900> fresh install
[20:29] <aaa__> Desktop or laptop?
[20:29] <Guest19900> desktop
[20:29] <aaa__> Go into bios and see if you can enable ac'97
[20:29] <aaa__> Or onboard sound
[20:30] <Guest19900> doh... gotta reboot to try that... *think* it's enabled, sound was looping in ubuntu gnome
[20:30] <Guest19900> you gonna be here a minute?
[20:31] <Guest19900> before i go, you good with grub?
[20:31] <aaa__> Sorry i have to go...my ubuntu studio got f ucked up when i installed steam -.-
[20:31] <aaa__> I might be ..why?
[20:31] <aaa__> It actually depends on your problem:P
[20:31] <Guest19900> when puter boots, i get no grub menu. think it's in my grub.cfg
[20:32] <Guest19900> hidden_timeout=0
[20:32] <Guest19900> hidden_timeout_quiet=true
[20:33] <Unit193> Yep, if you want you can comment out hidden_timeout=0
[20:33] <Guest19900> changed to 10 and false and reran update-grub didn't change anything...
[20:33] <aaa__> If you want you grub menu to appear which you dont really need unless you have dual boot..then push f8 5,6 times before you get to ubuntu logo
[20:34] <aaa__> but gotta go solve my f**** issue lol..
[20:34] <Unit193> Erm, edit /etc/default/grub, the other gets overwritten as it clearly states in the header of the file.
[20:34] <Guest19900> thnx, good luck
[20:34] <Guest19900> that's the one i changed...
[20:35] <Unit193> < Unit193> Yep, if you want you can comment out hidden_timeout=0
[20:35] <Unit193> Heading out now.
[20:35] <Unit193> !grub
[20:45] <OvenWerks> Unit193: It seems to beter to use a new file in /etc/default/grub.d/ on ubuntu. That seems to cause the least problems with updates..
[20:50] <OvenWerks> Nothing on the GRUB site really works right on ubuntu :P
[22:08] <duduche92> I have duplicate sources.list
[22:09] <duduche92> apt-get update don(t work
[22:16] <OvenWerks> duduche92: I assume you are running on Live ISO
[22:16] <OvenWerks> That should go away after install
[22:17] <gdos> hey using alacarte, how come i can't hide certain menu items? even tried using gksudo alacarte
[22:22] <duduche92> no but  i am  just reinstalling.
[22:29] <OvenWerks> duduche92: If the system can see the ISO there are two sources.lists
[22:31] <OvenWerks> gdos: Most of the stock menu config files are broken. Which version os are you using?\
[22:32] <gdos> OvenWorks: what do you mean most of the stock menu config files are broken? is this a known issue?
[22:32] <OvenWerks> Sort of known I have been bugging as many as I can.
[22:32] <gdos> i'm using studio version 13.10
[22:33] <OvenWerks> The line that merges in other menu files is at the top of the config rather than the bottom.
[22:33] <gdos> OvenWerks: any work arounds?
[22:33] <OvenWerks> Hmm, that should be ok then.
[22:33] <OvenWerks> We use the merge function quite heavy for our own menu.
[22:34] <OvenWerks> (which is how I found it was broken)
[22:34] <gdos> but is there anyway that i can hide certain menu items?
[22:35] <OvenWerks> should be able to. Alacart makes a new *.desktop file with an extra line that hides it.
[22:36] <OvenWerks> I haven't played with alacarte since about 12.10 because I to many problems with it.
[22:36] <gdos> alacarte won't let me hide certain ubuntustudio specific items even tried prefixing the command with gksudo
[22:36] <gdos> OvenWerks: know of another menu editor?
[22:36] <OvenWerks> it shouldn't have to be sudo
[22:37] <OvenWerks> There is another one in the works, but it is not out yet.
[22:37] <OvenWerks> libremenu or something like that.
[22:37] <OvenWerks> The changes are stored in the user's directory
[22:38] <gdos> Ok.
[22:38] <OvenWerks> ~/.config/menu/ and ~/.local/applications/
[22:39] <OvenWerks> xfce may merge the files in the wrong order though if it is studio custom menu stuff you are trying to hide.
[22:40] <gdos> can i manually hide these items through a text editor? say, for example: the photography menu since the file are already duplicated elsewhere?
[22:41] <OvenWerks> I don't know for sure.
[22:42] <gdos> since its an xml file, can't remember what the string is to comment out a line.
[22:42] <OvenWerks> Commenting out a line may not work which file are you editing?
[22:44] <OvenWerks> If you sudo nano /etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged/studio.menu
[22:45] <OvenWerks> you can add the line: <Directory>ubuntustudio-noshow.directory</Directory>
[22:45] <OvenWerks> just below <Directory>ubuntustudio-photography.directory</Directory>
[22:46] <OvenWerks> The second line takes presidence over the first.
[22:47] <gdos> ok i will try that OvenWerks: thanks.
[22:47] <OvenWerks> Be warned, If we update that package your change may be over written :)
[22:48] <gdos> at least i'll know how to fix it. :)
[22:48] <OvenWerks> Also that will be system wide. That is all users will have the change.
[22:49] <OvenWerks> gdos: Thank you for pointing that out. I will be testing that and report a bug against xfce if there is a problem there.
[22:50] <gdos> OK. No problem. :)
[22:50] <OvenWerks> Not that many people thorally test that stuff
[22:50] <gdos> i guess i have OCD when it comes to my desktop :)
[22:51] <OvenWerks> The idea of settings is to be able to customize.
[23:05] <gdos> yep.
[23:08] <OvenWerks> Hmm, it works for me here (alacarte)
[23:09] <OvenWerks> I can turn photgraphy off and on with alacate no problem.
[23:12] <OvenWerks> Oh well, no bug anyway.