[00:06] <David-A> MulBerry Pie ?  a-ha MacBook Pro
[00:26] <nantou> aint a bit contradictory to use free software on a apple product?
[03:14] <TiZ> Hi. I upgraded to 13.10, and GTK 3 no longer respects xfconf's xsettings/Gtk/ColorScheme property. What can I do about this?
[03:20] <TiZ> In addition, laptop-mode-tools's rules aren't triggering anymore for some reason.
[03:24] <TiZ> To be specific, I know that I have the right values set to echo to the right file for brightness control, since I can do it manually and it works, but when I plug and unplug the laptop, nothing happens.
[03:43] <gdos> ok the following are not loading correctly (if at all) since upgrading from 13.04 to 13.10: my ethernet card (though my wireless loads fine, thankfully); apache2; and my soundcard drivers. help?
[04:19] <TiZ> Hi. I upgraded to 13.10, and GTK 3 no longer respects xfconf's xsettings/Gtk/ColorScheme property. What can I do about this?
[07:50] <sofias> hi again :)
[07:52] <sofias> what could be missing when i have no sound and the mixer programs report no audio devices?
[07:53] <sofias> lspci does report it, tho
[07:53] <sofias> i suspect it's also a packet that was thrown out by the upgrade
[07:57] <sofias> osspd is marked as a missing recommend in synaptic. but afaik oss is obsolete so that won't be it
[08:05] <sofias> i also have to enter my passwords for mounting drives and suspending but i guess that's a separate issue
[08:09] <sofias> oh i forgot to say, i's an onboard amd audio thing: 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH Azalia Controller (rev 01)
[08:11] <sofias> and xubuntu with some additional packages upgraded to the latest version (saucy?)
[08:12] <bazhang> some?
[08:13] <bazhang> you're on 13.04 then?
[08:16] <sofias> bazhang, Linux omega 3.11.0-12-generic #19-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 9 16:20:46 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:17] <bazhang> is omega some MINT thing?
[08:18] <sofias> bazhang, no that's the mane of my computer :P
[08:18] <sofias> bazhang, name :P
[08:18] <bazhang> whats the output of lsb_release -a
[08:19] <sofias> No LSB modules are available.
[08:19] <sofias> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[08:19] <sofias> Description:	Ubuntu 13.10
[08:19] <sofias> Release:	13.10
[08:19] <sofias> Codename:	saucy
[08:19] <bazhang> !find pavucontrol
[08:19] <sofias> so it's saucy as i said. and this weirdo version number
[08:19] <bazhang> got that installed ?^
[08:20] <sofias> yes
[08:21] <bazhang> and padevchooser?
[08:22] <sofias> it only displays "Dummy Output"
[08:23] <sofias> installing dadevchooser
[08:24] <bazhang> Pa not Da
[08:25] <sofias> bazhang, just a typo, installed the right thing
[08:25] <bazhang> ok
[08:26] <sofias> now i have this interesting thing in my tray, but it doesn't find any devices either
[08:26] <sofias> isn't there a list of all the packets that come with xubuntu by default
[08:27] <sofias> ?
[08:41] <sofias> do i need jack it be installed?
[09:00] <pAt_> hi, since I upgraded to Xubuntu 13.10, closing laptop lid causes hibernate regardless of power management. Any idea?
[09:13] <baizon> pAt_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/360615/ubuntu-server-13-10-now-goes-to-sleep-when-closing-laptop-lid
[09:13] <baizon> pAt_: this should solve your issue.
[09:18] <pAt_> thx baizon, that worked!
[10:01] <brainwash> pAt_: bug 1222021
[12:26] <ultim8> I'm using a xubuntu 12.04 i'm trying to install a new version of playonlinux. I need to download the version which suits me. What is it? Precise, Oneiric, Natty, Maverick or Lucid?
[12:27] <baizon> ultim8: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29#Releases
[12:28] <ultim8> baizon, ty. That helped.
[12:29] <cfhowlett> !precise|ultim8,
[12:59] <Basil1x> I need help with Thunar.  All my icons have disappeared.  Only the names below remain.
[13:33] <ultim8> Hi. Maybe some1 can help me. I installed playonlinux with wine and the game called league of legends. In audio setup i can use only the default audio devises, which are fine. But the sound sounds blurry.
[15:28] <gdos> ok the following are not loading correctly (if at all) since upgrading from 13.04 to 13.10: my ethernet card (though my wireless loads fine, thankfully); apache2; and my soundcard drivers. help?
[15:30] <gdos> ultim8: check out #winehq
[15:56] <raven_raven> I wonder if someone could help me with my Samsung R522 equipped with Radeon Mobility HD 4650 and its overheating
[15:57] <raven_raven> well, maybe it's not overheating, but it's close to as it's making much more noise than on Windows
[16:01] <m3kk> raven_raven, checked different drivers etc?
[16:02] <raven_raven> yep, there are no restricted driver to install
[16:02] <raven_raven> ATI dropped support for my card some time ago and it's only compatible with Xorg 1.12, which is quite outdated by now
[16:03] <m3kk> Mine crashes as soon i check for restricted dtriver.. did work in 13.04
[16:05] <raven_raven> it's just crazy how bad it is compared to windows
[16:06] <raven_raven> even if I download legacy fglrx for my card then there is bunch of missing dependencies and if I force install then resolution is all screwed up, but the problem with temperature persists
[16:06] <m3kk> raven_raven, have you tried just giving up?
[16:07] <m3kk> raven_raven, that might solve the issue
[16:07] <m3kk> Im lucky these opensource drivers run well because i cant change it at all. someone else have same issues?
[16:08] <raven_raven> I know giving up is the best answer here, but I really love how convenient and comfy Linux is compared to windows in other areas
[16:09] <raven_raven> but that overheating and spinning fans are driving me crazy
[16:09] <m3kk> raven_raven, i understand.. can it be disabled or something? does the cpu has one integrated?
[16:11] <raven_raven> nope, unfortunately not
[16:12] <raven_raven> i'm looking for a way to undervolt it or something like that
[16:14] <kgb> i'm looking for an application launcher, something from the panel; what do you guys use, what should i get?..:)
[16:14] <kgb> ... in the Software Center: there is barely anything? :-f
[16:16] <olbi_> you mean about Apple launcher or smth like Windows menu?
[16:17] <kgb> olbi_: tnx for asking; maybe something like a tree-launcher, yes; something that can have multiple-different folders to open with Thunar for example
[16:18] <kgb> .. is there something ready-made like that?
[16:18] <olbi_> try Whisker Menu or Cairo Dock
[16:18] <raven_raven> I don't know if this is what you're looking for, but maybe Synapse?
[16:19] <gdos> ok the following are not loading correctly (if at all) since upgrading from 13.04 to 13.10: my ethernet card (though my wireless loads fine, thankfully); apache2; and my soundcard drivers. help?
[16:20] <kgb> olbi_, raven_raven: will do, tyvm!..:)
[16:21] <kgb> 'xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin' sounds perfect..
[16:23] <olbi> whisker menu is great :D
[16:23] <olbi> it works like KDE or Windows :)
[16:24] <kgb> *very exctied* lolz, installing it
[16:24] <xonox> I have trouble adding an application into the menu with alacarte.  I tested xubuntu 13.04 for a week before wiping and going with xubuntu 13.10.  I used to be able to add a menu entry with an icon under the graphics submenu
[16:25] <xonox> Is this a know problem or is it just my install ?
[16:37] <kgb> xonox: http://s9.postimg.org/rvcszk8m7/Screenshot_10202013_06_36_12_PM.png ?
[16:37] <kgb> .. or u tryin' 2 do something else? :-)
[16:39] <xonox> kgb: exactly what i want to do.  In 13.04 i added an icon under the graphics menu, thus enabling me to launch a 3d modeler for linux i got outside of the software center
[16:39] <xonox> kgb: now i can't add it under graphics.  When i succeed, i can add under "Other" and the icon i choose never shows up.
[16:42] <xonox> kgb: i think the xfce menu is confused now though, it seems out of sync with the editor.  Maybe i should just retsart and try again.
[16:42] <kgb> sudo shutdown -r now :))
[16:43] <xonox> kgb: thanks for the help, i'll restart in a few minutes, downloading a video from archive.org right now :)
[16:45] <ilbuonme> Hello guys! Has anyone successfully installed the Jupiter applet in Xubuntu 13.10?
[17:01] <xonox> kgb: i did some more tests after the reboot and created another user to see if it would happen under its profile.  Does the same thing.  No big deal but it would be nice if i could get it to work
[17:11] <kgb> xonox: I just installed Cairo Dock, on olbi's suggestion.. and it's pretty awesome. =)
[17:11] <olbi> :)
[17:12] <kgb> .. think i've found the last menu-program that i'll ever need, hehe
[17:13] <xonox> kgb: is it a mac os x-like dock ?
[17:14] <kgb> xonox: yup, but there's also Synapse && Whisker Menu ( http://xubuntugeek.blogspot.com/2012/07/how-to-install-synapse-file-launcher-in.html )
[17:16] <kgb> can't believe i hadn't looked for something like this earlier xD
[17:18] <xonox> i'm in love with the simplicity of xubuntu, i really like the default menu + taskbar and all that
[17:18] <xonox> and it's crazy fast
[17:20] <xonox> synapse looks interesting
[17:21] <kgb> it looks rly neat so far, tnx 2 raven_raven..
[17:31] <ilbuonme> It looks like Jupiter cannot be installed in Xubuntu Saucy. Suggestions about applications to save battery life?
[17:32] <kgb> xonox: just btw. http://www.smdavis.us/projects/menulibre/
[17:34] <xonox> kgb: thanks :)
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[17:38] <howefield> q
[17:39] <xonox> kgb: thanks for everything, i have to go, have a nice day :)
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[17:43]  * Mapley grumbles.
[17:43] <Mapley> People are dull and predictable.
[17:43] <detro_> that was so badass
[17:43] <Mapley> Too much so >:c
[17:46] <cuddles> hello
[17:47] <detro_> Hello cuddles
[17:51] <cuddles> I have a question for xfce panel and sound volume problem, is it planed to be fix in further updates?
[17:51] <cuddles> or should we tweak around?
[17:54] <Shirakawasuna> I'm having trouble booting the installation media (usb stick) on an ideapad s300. When I select either install or try xubuntu, the screen turns black
[17:54] <Shirakawasuna> I've tried amd64 vs. i386 images, verified the md5sum of each, tried using unetbootin to make the sticks...
[17:55] <Unit193> I've heard issues with unetbootin and Saucy.
[17:55] <cuddles> Shirakawasuna it's not gonna help much but mine worked with unetbootin
[17:57] <cuddles> i formated my key first in fat32 flagged it booot
[17:58] <Shirakawasuna> My connection to freenode (and only freenode) keeps resetting, weird. I missed any responses, if there were any.
[17:58] <cuddles> i formated my key first in fat32 flagged it boot
[17:58] <Unit193> He's still gone. :P
[17:58] <cuddles> oops
[17:58] <cuddles> lol
[17:59] <cuddles> no not funney sorry
[17:59] <cuddles> do you know what happened in volume control in xfce panel?
[18:01] <guanyu_> volume is a known issue
[18:01] <cuddles> guanyu_, you think they will make an update one day ?
[18:02] <guanyu_> cuddles, not sure. i had wifi driver issue as well. i reverted back to 13.05
[18:04] <guanyu_> cuddles: based on the release notes, i don't see a lot of new stuff. if it is just for daily usage, i guess i will just stick with 13.04 first now
[18:05] <cuddles> yeah guanyu_  i guess you're right
[18:07] <Bosi> Hello everyone, can anyone tell me how to disable this xfce feature that saves the session and restart the opened applications when I restart my pc? I unmarked the option to Save session automatically, but in the menu "Session" I don't know If I should delete all the options or if I should leave something there.
[18:14] <guanyu_> Bosi: have you uncheck the logout settings in session and startup?
[18:14] <guanyu_> Bosi: there is a checkbox for 'automatically save session on logout
[18:14] <guanyu_> Bosi: uncheck that
[18:14] <Bosi> yup, it is unchecked
[18:14] <guanyu_> Bosi: that didn't work?
[18:15] <Bosi> still didn't work. reopens everything that I left opened
[18:15] <Bosi> but, in the menu "session" there are a few things that I think might be the problem
[18:15] <Bosi> I don't know if I should just clean everything, or not.
[18:16] <guanyu_> Bosi: i have those too. but they restarted unless i have them at the application autostart tab
[18:16] <guanyu_> Bosi: they don't restart unless ...
[18:18] <Bosi> I cleaned everything in that list except for: thunar, pulse audio, power manager, xfwm4, xfce-4panel, xfsettingsd and xfdesktop. Should I remove any of them from the list?
[18:20] <guanyu_> Bosi: i think those are in your current session
[18:21] <guanyu_> Bosi: i could be wrong. have you disabled what you don't want to show up in autostart tab?
[18:21] <Bosi> yeah, I also did that.
[18:22] <Bosi> what really bothers me is like when I restart with Skype, Chrome, Spotify opened, it reopens everything.
[18:22] <Bosi> I cleaned a few stuff on the session list, I'll see if it works now.
[18:22] <cuddles> bye all
[18:29] <Bosi> guanyu_, nope, reopened everything =/
[18:30] <Bosi> guanyu_, this started to happen after I upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10... don't know if there is anything related to that.
[18:30] <Unit193> It's because "Save session" is checked, clear out .cache/sessions/ too.
[18:31] <Bosi> Save session it is not checked.
[18:32] <Bosi> how do I clear out .cache/sessions/ ?
[18:33] <Unit193> rm -rfv ~/.cache/sessions/
[18:35] <Bosi> ok, let's give it a try
[18:39] <Bosi> Unit193, you got it. that was it. Thank you!
[18:50] <Unit193> Sure.
[20:17] <xubuntu064> does anyone know how to install xubuntu on acer chromebook?
[20:51] <Nqoba> hi
[20:51] <Nqoba> i installed ubuntu on my windows machine dual boot using the windows installer
[20:51] <Nqoba> i'm looking to install xubuntu instead, what is the best way to do this?
[20:57] <ran_> hi
[20:58] <ran_> i need to know if you have the same problem as i have withe synaptic on 13.10
[22:11] <gdos> ok the following are not loading correctly (if at all) since upgrading from 13.04 to 13.10: my ethernet card (though my wireless loads fine, thankfully); apache2; and my soundcard drivers. help?
[22:14] <vespakoen> Hey guys, I have just installed xubuntu and I like it a lot so far. I am using a configuration management tool to configure xubuntu, but run into an issue when added startup scripts
[22:15] <vespakoen> I want the "setxkbmap -option altwin:ctrl_win" command to run when I login, for this, I copied the xinitrc file from "/etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc" to "/home/koen/.config/xfce4/xinitrc" but it doesn't seem to get executed
[22:15] <vespakoen> does anyone know a simple way to debug this? is this the correct approach at all?
[22:42] <gdos> ok the following are not loading correctly (if at all) since upgrading from 13.04 to 13.10: my ethernet card (though my wireless loads fine, thankfully); apache2; and my soundcard drivers. help?
[23:38] <amerigena> Would someone be willing to tell me what steps to take after logging into my Launchpad account to report a bug on xubuntu-artwork?
[23:56] <amerigena> Because when I browse the categories under xubuntu-artwork, I see no options to report a bug.
[23:57] <amerigena> When I view other packages (menulibre), it does show the option to report a bug.
[23:58] <amerigena> I take that back - there is an option to report a bug on xubuntu-artwork, but it's greyed out.