[00:34] <Physo> Hey guys, I need some help - I just installed Lubuntu on my grandfather's laptop. Works almost fine so far, the problem is that I cannot delete files. It says it has no permission to create a Trash-folder in home/USERNAME/.local/share.
[00:35] <Physo> After creating that folder by opening pcmanfm as root it cannot move files to the trash, I can only delete them directly
[00:35] <phillw> Physo: lubuntu does not follow the route of having a trash can.
[00:36] <Physo> How can I remove files? By pressing Del on the keyboard it wants to move it to the trash can
[00:37] <phillw> Physo: have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1949042
[00:38] <phillw> the jury is still out on it. there is lubuntu tweaks that also can attain this
[00:40] <Physo> It's also not even necessary for me to create a trash can. The problem here is that error message when trying to delete a file
[00:41] <phillw> Physo: How did you open pcmanfm as root?
[00:42] <Physo> By typing in "sudo pcmanfm" into the terminal
[00:44] <phillw1> Physo: that's a really good way to break things!
[00:44] <Physo> phillw1: Oh, alright. Never doing it again.
[00:45] <phillw1> you will have messed up the .xauthority file.
[00:45] <phillw1> it will need its permissions to be reset.
[00:47] <phillw1> I'm just looking up the information for that, but my internet link is mis behaving!
[00:48] <Physo> Alright. Thank you very much for spending your time, it is 02:48 AM here and I just can't figure it out :x
[00:51] <phillw1> one hour behind, but my internet has decided to throw a hissy fit :(
[00:52] <phillw1> maybe the NSA are backing my system up :P
[00:52] <Physo> :P
[00:53] <Physo2> I found this one, should I try this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1863978
[00:55] <phillw1> Physo if it discusses chown to the .xauthority area, then it should be good to go. I'm still hanging on for grim death for accessing pages :)
[00:56] <Physo2> Alright
[00:56] <phillw1> Physo yup, that looks the instructions!
[00:57] <phillw1> always use gksudo for desktop applications. I recall this from many years ago when I broke firefox!
[00:59] <Physo2> Unfortunately, executing this command did not help :( When I try to delete a file it still says that some files can not be moved to the trash because the underlying file systems do not support the operation
[01:02] <phillw1> Physo have you reset the .xauth area?
[01:02] <Physo2> What do you mean by resetting the .xauth area?
[01:03] <phillw1> Physo the instructions at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1863978
[01:04] <Physo2> phillw1: Yes, I've executed "sudo xauth generate :0 . trusted"
[01:05] <phillw1> and then rebooted?
[01:05] <Physo2> Not yet. Trying it now, thank you
[01:07] <Physo> By the way, when booting lubuntu it displays "Mismatch in adjusted_mode" in white font in front of a black background before showing the login dialog
[01:08] <Physo> Oh, I've probably messed it up even more. Can't even log in now. After typing in the password I have to do it again. And again. And again :x
[01:08] <phillw1> okies. I've got to hit bed, but you need to solve the xauth issue before reporting other problems, Unit193 could you back me up here. I really do need to get some sleep!
[01:09] <brainwash> Physo: this one: "[drm:intel_pipe_config_compare] *ERROR* mismatch in adjusted_mode.flags (expected 2, found 0)"?
[01:09] <Physo> brainwash: Possible. It just flashes up for a short time, so I cannot say for sure
[01:10] <brainwash> I didn't do any research on this error message yet
[01:11] <brainwash> but I got like 20 entries of this one in my system log file
[01:11] <brainwash> so I'm curious now
[01:11] <Physo> Alright.
[01:12] <Physo> Good night, phillw1. Thanks for your efforts
[01:30] <greeter> :-D i did it. i successfully installed lubuntu for the first time
[01:49] <greeter> is there an easy way to figure out what package i need to get to install a particular dependency?
[02:03] <greeter> never mind, i think i found a way to get the dependency :-D
[02:47] <lighta-usb> hi here, hey anyone have a workaround for googlechrome lib32gcc1 dependency for 13.10 ? can't see the package available
[02:50] <greeter> i wish i could help you lighta-usb.. i'm pretty new to ubuntu myself though
[02:50] <greeter> i had an issue with a dependency earlier that i fixed with sudo apt-get build-dep <package-name> not sure if that'd help you or not
[02:50] <lighta-usb> np greeter =) I let you know if I found out, saw there was the 64 version there
[02:52] <greeter> hmm
[02:58] <greeter> holy smokes this migration from fedora to lubuntu has been smoother than any switch i've ever made before
[02:59] <lighta-usb> haha nice, have u ever done some fedora on usb with persistent mode yet ?
[02:59] <lighta-usb> I need one to create some rpm package
[02:59] <lighta-usb> fedora or centos preferably
[03:00] <greeter> umm i'm not that bright when it comes to linux unfortunately :-S
[03:00] <lighta-usb> oki =)
[03:01] <greeter> yeah. i was surprised i installed lubuntu so easily. although now that i have it i must say i love it
[03:01] <lighta-usb> wich version ?
[03:02] <greeter> 13.10
[03:02] <greeter> awesome, the cron tutorial i read enabled me to get the file set up right the first time :-D that's never happened
[03:03] <lighta-usb> altough I prefer sysctl then eh I dun remenber the name
[03:05] <greeter> that's over my head :-S
[03:09] <lighta-usb> here the dependancy for google if you still looking for it http://pkgs.org/archlinux/archlinux-multilib-x86_64/lib32-gcc-libs-4.8.2-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz.html
[03:18] <greeter> well i wasn't looking for that dependency. i was looking for one to run an eggdrop
[03:18] <greeter> i tried installing tcl-dev and that coupled with all the other deps was 100 megabytes which would take a while
[03:18] <greeter> so i tried the other way and that download was only 37 mb so i went with that
[03:33] <Physo> Reinstalling lubuntu solved my problem. Need some sleep. Bye :)
[10:05] <xnox> somebody is very confused about indicators on lubuntu/12.04
[10:05] <xnox> bug #1241504
[10:06] <greeter> let's take a look
[10:08] <greeter> maybe i'm crazy because i'm brand new to ubuntu, less than 24 hours. but what is that doing in a bug report? shouldn't it be on a forum instead?
[12:49] <Physo> Hey, s there a way to align the icons on the desktop automatically?
[13:30] <malaphus> I just upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10 and my gnome-keyring-daemon no longer works.  Whenever I SSH to a remove machine I am prompted for my SSH passphrase every time, although I do see gnome-keyring-daemon running in the background with the --daemonize and --login arguments
[13:31] <malaphus> Any ideas what might have caused this after the upgrade?
[17:08] <Bretos`> hello
[17:35] <malaphus> I just upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10 and my gnome-keyring-daemon no longer works.  Whenever I SSH to a remove machine I am prompted for my SSH passphrase every time, although I do see gnome-keyring-daemon running in the background with the --daemonize and --login arguments.  Any idea what would cause this?
[17:38] <Unit193> malaphus: Ah sorry, was going to look into it.  Do you have the env var SSH_AUTH_SOCK set?
[17:40] <malaphus> Yes sir, and SSH_AGENT_PID as well, the path pointed to by SOCK does indeed exist and is owned by my user, perms are just "srw" for user, nothing else
[17:40] <malaphus> hmm
[17:40] <malaphus> AGENT_PID points to a ssh-agent process though, not gnome-keyring-daemon, not sure if thats how it should be
[17:41] <malaphus> SSH_AGENT_PID=3423  and SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/ssh-qKOCa6lMAZgc/agent.3421 are the two env variables I have containing "ssh", and the sock exists as: srw------- 1 myuser myuser 0 Oct 21 09:29 agent.3421 in the path specified
[17:43] <malaphus> when I ssh with a few -v's, the last thing it does it find a key in ~/.ssh/id_rsa, sends that key and awaits a reply, and just before it prompts for a passphrase I get:
[17:43] <malaphus> debug1: key_parse_private_pem: PEM_read_PrivateKey failed
[17:43] <malaphus> I'm not sure if that's a normal failure or not
[17:48] <malaphus> Unit193: something else I just noticed, if I manually "ssh-add ~/.ssh/id_rsa", it works
[17:49] <malaphus> so at least I can get around the problem for now, still not sure why the typical GUI dialog doesn't pop up prompting for it though
[17:52] <malaphus> Unit193: hmm, just also discovered that I don't have pam_gnome_keyring.so in any of my pam configs, not sure if it's suppose to be in there somewhere
[17:56] <malaphus> and apparently I lied, I do have pam_gnome_keyring.so in pam.d, common-password, lightdm and lightdm-greeter
[18:21] <Unit193> malaphus: Right so that's set, which would pretty much indicate that "Startup and Services" has it.  Those are the vars I have set in my non-Lubuntu system.  Now, on my raring Lubuntu (haven't updated, I know) it has --components=ssh, and the desktop file in my saucy box has an exec line of "/usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --start --components=ssh" with OnlyShowIn=GNOME;Unity;MATE;
[18:30] <brainwash> /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/desktop.conf
[18:30] <brainwash> [Security]
[18:30] <brainwash> keyring=no
[18:31] <brainwash> maybe this entry
[18:31] <Unit193> Hah, faaaailz.  Thanks brainwash.
[18:32] <brainwash> :D
[18:35] <malaphus> Hmm, i'll try to add --components=ssh
[18:37] <Unit193> Try changing lxsessions config first.
[18:37] <malaphus> Unit193: I tried killing the existing one (since it didn't have the --components argument), I started another with --start and --components=ssh but no change, still get prompted each time
[18:39] <malaphus> I get: ** Message: couldn't connect to control socket at: /run/user/1000/keyring-3iUIdi/control: Connection refused when running manually as well
[18:39] <malaphus> Unit193: where would I do t hat?
[18:39] <malaphus> that*
[18:41] <Unit193> Perhaps in `lxsession-edit`
[18:42] <malaphus> my .config/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart doesn't contain gnome-keyring-daemon, although it is listed in the Session Preferences gui and does get loaded at login
[18:42] <malaphus> tried there first, can't actually edit the commandline for those
[18:43] <Unit193> Well, you could try editing the global one, they changed how it worked in the newer lxsession so I don't actually know as I haven't played with it.
[18:43] <Unit193> (Lubuntu is still on raring.)
[18:44] <malaphus> looks like they are .desktop files in /etc/xdg/autostart/, and it is set for --start --components=ssh there
[18:44] <malaphus> not sure where the --daemonize --login one comes from
[18:47] <Unit193> phillw: As seen above, try changing  keyring=no  to  keyring=yes
[18:49] <malaphus> hmm alright, so when I run gnome-keyring-daemon manually from one terminal, then set my SSH_AUTH_SOCK to the newly created file in /run/user/1000, it works
[18:49] <malaphus> pops up the GUI and such
[18:50] <phillw> malaphus: gnome-keyring-ssh.desktop ?
[18:56] <malaphus> phillw: yeah, that's set to start on login, however thats not whats actually running when I check
[18:56] <malaphus> when I login, the only gnome-keyring-daemon I have running is "gnome-keyring-daemon --daemonize --login"
[18:58] <phillw> malaphus: I do not see the option of changing  keyring=no  to  keyring=yes in gnome-keyring-ssh.desktop
[18:59] <Unit193> /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/desktop.conf
[18:59] <Unit193> brainwash: I think I'm the only one that can read you here. ;)
[19:00] <malaphus> Oh, I missed brainwash's message lol
[19:00] <malaphus> changing that setting now, we'll see how it goes1
[19:03] <brainwash> shouldn't there be a copy of this conf somewhere in home?
[19:03] <phillw> malaphus: thanks, I'm now in a meeting. I'll be back in ~1 hour
[19:04] <Unit193> brainwash: Yes, I'd think so in .config/lxsession/Lubuntu/desktop.conf
[19:04] <brainwash> I've just downloaded the lubuntu package, checked the files and pointed out this particular entry
[19:05] <brainwash> xfce4-power-manager does not get launched too
[19:05] <malaphus> brainwash: nope, didn't help
[19:06] <malaphus> After login, the only keyring I have running is "/usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --daemonize --login"
[19:06] <brainwash> same here, /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --daemonize --login
[19:06] <Unit193> brainwash: Would you think that would override the OnlyShowIn param in the desktop files?
[19:07] <malaphus> does it work for you?
[19:07] <brainwash> but I'm not running the lubuntu/lxde session
[19:07] <malaphus> Ah
[19:07] <brainwash> Unit193: no clue
[19:08] <Bretos`> hello guys!
[19:08] <Bretos`> How can I disable automounting of partitions in Lubuntu LiveCD?
[19:08] <Unit193> brainwash: Does the keyring work for us?  I don't even use it except for gpg. :P
[19:09] <brainwash> uhm, nobody complained yet
[19:10] <Unit193> :D
[19:10] <brainwash> but lets check launchpad
[19:11] <malaphus> I do have ssh-agent running as well, not sure what's starting it, but maybe it's just overwriting my SSH_AUTH_SOCk variable
[19:41] <Bretos`> How can I disable automounting of partitions in Xubuntu LiveCD? it's pretty important at the moment...
[19:43] <Unit193> Bretos`: This is #lubuntu, for Lubuntu.  But, the livecd doesn't mount the harddrives in the computer automatically, but it will put them on the desktop so you can easily.  It will automount if you insert after booting though.
[19:44] <Bretos`> Unit193: ok, but I don't want it mountable by the user
[19:44] <Bretos`> Unit193: I guess that there is no big difference between those livecds...
[19:45] <Unit193> Bretos`: GVFS is what's giving the user ability to mount as non-root.
[19:45] <Bretos`> Unit193: finally some useful advice! Thank you!
[19:45] <Bretos`> Unit193: so would it be enough to reconfigure gvfs, or remove it completly?
[19:45] <Unit193> Heeey, I'm randomly useful... :P
[19:46] <Unit193> Bah, when will I remember gvfs != fuse.
[19:47] <Bretos`> what should I do then? I've never felt so hopeless about Linux...
[19:48] <Unit193> Bretos`: What happens if you set the max in /etc/fuse.conf to 0?
[19:48] <Bretos`> Unit193: well, whole fuse.conf is commented in xubuntu livecd ;D
[19:49] <Bretos`> but I guess I can uncomment mount_max and set it to 0
[19:49] <Bretos`> that would disable users from mountig pendrives... but, thats enough for me
[19:49] <Unit193> Bretos`: How about we take it to #xubuntu ?
[21:39] <YANS> exit
[22:39] <IgnacioUy> Hi
[22:39] <IgnacioUy> Lubuntu have the daily-builds of TrustyTahr?
[22:45] <phillw> brainwash: I had mine break earlier; but it was not a high priority for me as I made the usual mistake of some one else reporting that bug.
[22:49] <malaphus> what could be loading ssh-agent at login?  I've checked my .profile, .bashrc, nothing
[22:53] <Unit193> malaphus: It's an upstart job /usr/share/upstart/sessions/ssh-agent.conf