[09:41] <eagles0513875> hey all :)
[18:42] <pleia2> meeting over in #ubuntu-meeting in 18 minutes
[19:00] <godbyk> We're just starting an ubuntu-docs meeting in #ubuntu-meeting now.
[20:09] <eagles0513875_> hey bkerensa  and pleia2
[20:10] <bkerensa> hello
[20:11] <eagles0513875_> bkerensa: is there an official doc's team?
[20:12] <bkerensa> yes
[20:12] <godbyk> eagles0513875: You can join the ubuntu-doc-contributors team: <https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-doc-contributors>
[20:12] <eagles0513875_> ok perfect :)
[20:12] <eagles0513875_> pleia2: ^ you might be interested in that link too
[20:13] <pleia2> eagles0513875_: that's for folks who control the release process, not regular contributors
[20:13] <pleia2> regular contributors join subteams
[20:13] <eagles0513875_> talk about confusing
[20:13] <pleia2> it is
[20:13] <bkerensa> ttyl folks :)
[20:13] <pleia2> I didn't bother joining anything :)
[20:14] <pleia2> team structure is a discussion that should be had, but it's really not on my priority list since it's not blocking anything right now
[20:14] <godbyk> pleia2: Agreed.
[20:14] <eagles0513875_> pleia2: i think it coudl potentially cause issues or slow down the work flow
[20:15] <godbyk> Having all these subteams is quite confusing, but not something that we can fix easily at the moment.
[20:15] <godbyk> Let's wait to get 14.04 under our belts and then we can explore restructuring. :)
[20:15] <pleia2> eagles0513875_: yeah, if it does slow down the workflow it will become more of a priority (it hasn't yet)
[20:15] <pleia2> godbyk: +1
[20:15] <godbyk> eagles0513875: For the system documentation (which is different from the community wiki documentation), there are only a handful of people who can actually commit code to the bzr repository.
[20:16] <godbyk> eagles0513875: Everyone else needs to email patches, file bug reports, or submit merge proposals for review.
[20:16] <eagles0513875_> that is an issue of having two different sets of documentation
[20:17] <eagles0513875_> tbh one woudl be better and that is the official and have it where people can post comments or questions about the documentation
[20:17] <eagles0513875_> such as stack exchange
[20:17] <pleia2> we have askubuntu.com on stack exchange
[20:18] <pleia2> reactive documentation :)
[20:18] <eagles0513875_> i think official documentation shoudl go to a format like that
[20:18] <eagles0513875_> that is the top notch way to do things
[20:18] <pleia2> unless you don't have internet access
[20:18] <godbyk> pleia2: Then you hope you have a printed copy of the Ubuntu manual handy. ;-)
[20:18] <pleia2> godbyk: as I tend to!
[20:19] <eagles0513875_> you woudl still have the pdf version
[20:19] <pleia2> of ask ubuntu? :)
[20:19] <eagles0513875_> no of the official documentation
[20:19] <eagles0513875_> then people with questions about it can post on ask
[20:19] <pleia2> oh, you're saying the wiki should be replaced with askubuntu?
[20:19] <pleia2> not the official docs?
[20:20] <eagles0513875_> no no
[20:20] <eagles0513875_> if people dont have an internet connection they can still download the pdf's of official docs and post questions on the page of the official doc they have a question on
[20:20] <eagles0513875_> even post if they found an issue with something work arounds etc and all the posts are visible to everyone work arounds and all
[20:20] <eagles0513875_> saves people time
[20:20] <eagles0513875_> and money so to speka they just have to read through the comments
[20:21] <godbyk> Ideally, the official docs would cover most of the needs of the Ubuntu users.
[20:21] <godbyk> Then the community wiki docs would just fill in the gaps a bit.
[20:22] <eagles0513875_> why  not fill in the gaps with questions posted below the official documentation and answers
[20:23] <godbyk> eagles0513875: Well, it would be better to take the questions and update the documentation to answer them.
[20:23] <eagles0513875_> what w eneed to do seeing the limited man power is consolidate
[20:23] <godbyk> So, for example, we should explore the top questions on AskUbuntu and the top wiki pages to ensure that the official docs address thise issues.
[20:23] <godbyk> those issues, rather.
[20:23] <eagles0513875_> agreed but why create more work
[20:23] <eagles0513875_> why not simplify things
[20:24] <eagles0513875_> cut out a step so to speak
[20:24] <godbyk> You mean just have people modify the docs directly?  (Just like the community wiki works currently?)
[20:25] <eagles0513875_> godbyk: no. comment below them and people respond there and point out errors if any etc there
[20:25] <eagles0513875_> my idea is based off stack exchange but responses below the official documentation pages.
[20:25] <godbyk> Then if we updated the documentation to remove the error, we would need to delete the comment/question pertaining to it, right?
[20:26] <eagles0513875_> correct. but at least its on the same page
[20:26] <eagles0513875_> you dont need to open another page in a new tab
[20:26] <godbyk> Kind of like this: <http://us3.php.net/preg_match>?
[20:26] <godbyk> Where you have official documentation at the top and comments below it?
[20:26] <eagles0513875_> exactly
[20:28] <godbyk> My experience with that sort of system is that often many of the comments are outdated or incorrect. So someone has to moderate that somehow.
[20:28] <godbyk> And at the moment, the docs team doesn't have the manpower to do that.
[20:28] <eagles0513875_> neither do we have the power to manage god knows how many resources either
[20:28] <godbyk> It may be something we can explore in the future though.
[20:29] <eagles0513875_> godbyk: sry for talking up a storm im so full of ideas
[20:29] <godbyk> That's true. That's why we have a small set of official documentation and leave the community wiki as a 'wild west' area where almost anything goes.
[20:29] <godbyk> eagles0513875: No problem! I'm glad to see you're excited about helping out the documentation teams!
[20:29] <eagles0513875_> and last week and week before i was going through hell to complete a multiple domain mail setup postfix + dovecot + mysql for virtual users and domains turns out that in the community docs there was no mention of postfix-mysql package and dovecot-mysql package
[20:30] <eagles0513875_> took me a damn week to figure out those are what were causing this server not to work right
[20:30] <godbyk> Yeah, that can be a problem.
[20:30] <eagles0513875_> i cna contribute some new documentation too on the front of dovecot + postfix multiple domain setup
[20:30] <godbyk> Oftentimes, a great wiki page is written and then abandoned. No one comes along to update it for newer versions of Ubuntu.
[20:30] <eagles0513875_> :) can also contribute some other documentation I have up on my site as well which i need to get back online
[20:31] <eagles0513875_> god im in love with alfresco the little that i tested out with it
[20:31] <godbyk> To contribute directly on that topic, you can (1) edit the wiki pages yourself to fix the errors, and (2) file bugs and help update the server guide.
[20:32] <eagles0513875_> well ironically postfix + dovecot on the commuinty site works still but lots of warnings in the logs
[20:32] <godbyk> We're a bit stuck in our ways with the system documentation for the time being as we're riding on GNOME's coattails there.
[20:32] <eagles0513875_> we shouldnt
[20:32] <eagles0513875_> why should the community docs for server ride on the tail end of gnome
[20:32] <eagles0513875_>  for me my focus would be server side documentation on the community side of thigns
[20:33] <godbyk> Since Ubuntu uses so much GNOME software, we can just copy over the GNOME documentation for the most part
[20:33] <godbyk> Then we just add some extra bits about Unity and tweak a few things that are specific to Ubuntu/Unity.
[20:33] <eagles0513875_> godbyk: i doubt that applies for server
[20:33] <godbyk> The server does don't, that's true.
[20:33] <godbyk> The server docs don't rely on the GNOME docs at all.
[20:33] <eagles0513875_> that is where i woudl like to focus my efforts
[20:33] <godbyk> I was speaking to the desktop docs. Sorry.
[20:34] <godbyk> Ah, okay.
[20:34] <eagles0513875_> as i use the LTS releases for my vps's that i have for my business
[20:34] <godbyk> For the server guide, they're using the Docbook markup language.
[20:34] <eagles0513875_> godbyk: right now im very tempted to roll my own distro
[20:35] <godbyk> I *think* the server guide may have been based on some Debian docs at one point, but don't quite me on that. I don't now much about the server guide.
[20:35] <godbyk> That's quite an undertaking!
[20:36] <balloons> ohh, did I miss the meeting?
[20:36] <eagles0513875_> agreed i already have a desktop in mind. which i need to port apps from kde to it and remove the qt from them so to speak
[20:36] <balloons> please say no!
[20:36] <eagles0513875_> yes sadly :(
[20:36] <mhall119> no
[20:37]  * mhall119 lies
[20:37] <eagles0513875_> haha
[20:37] <balloons> argh... sorry everyone ;-(
[20:37] <eagles0513875_> its ok balloons i was in an dout as im at work
[20:38] <eagles0513875_> godbyk have you heard of enlightenment
[20:38] <eagles0513875_> its one zippy DE
[20:38] <pleia2> it was the first one I ever used when I started using linux in 2001
[20:39] <godbyk> balloons: I'm afraid so. You can read the minutes at <http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-10-21-19.01.html> and the transcript at <http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/10/21/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t19:00>, however.
[20:39] <godbyk> eagles0513875: Yeah, I used E back in the late 90s for a while.
[20:39] <eagles0513875_> well im planning on rolling my own distro with that as the primary DE
[20:39] <godbyk> Cool.
[20:39] <eagles0513875_> but its lacking apps hence my work to port apps from kde
[20:40] <eagles0513875_> as well working on a super low cost post of sales system on ARM with just the software embedded on it
[20:40] <godbyk> Sounds like you're quite busy!
[20:40] <eagles0513875_> yep work part time like i am right now + freelance work as well
[20:41] <eagles0513875_> and looking for a full time job
[20:41] <eagles0513875_> which is proving a big challenge
[20:42] <godbyk> I'm hiding in grad school until the economy comes back. ;-)
[20:42] <eagles0513875_> well im goign to start a masters next october
[20:42] <eagles0513875_> right now im takign some certification courses
[20:43] <eagles0513875_> php 2nd half of the course plus starting a web dev course to beef up my skills
[20:43] <eagles0513875_> have another job interview tomorrow and had one today
[20:43] <pleia2> godbyk: hehe
[20:44] <eagles0513875_> have a sample site to design
[20:44] <eagles0513875_> for this itnerview i had today and have to have it ready by next week
[20:45] <eagles0513875_> or before and im setting myself a deadline of friday
[21:15] <eagles0513875_> mhamhall119 hey are you there
[21:15] <eagles0513875_> mhall119: are you there ?
[21:45] <eagles0513875_> balloons you around?
[21:47] <shaunm> godbyk: have you ever chatted with Jorge Castro?
[21:48] <shaunm> he has some strong opinions on the interaction between askubuntu and the system docs
[21:48] <shaunm> some day I might manage to get his Open Help presentation online
[21:53] <littlegirl> Did I miss the Ubuntu doc meeting?
[21:53] <eagles0513875_> littlegirl: yes
[21:53] <eagles0513875_> about two hrs late
[21:53] <littlegirl> Blast.
[21:53] <eagles0513875_> hehe im sure pleia2  has the minutes somewhere handy
[21:53] <littlegirl> Oh, cool!
[21:53] <eagles0513875_> littlegirl:  you need to ask her
[21:54] <littlegirl> Did you attend?
[21:54] <littlegirl> eagles0513875_: Will do, thanks. (:
[21:54] <eagles0513875_> yes granted i am at work
[21:54] <eagles0513875_> and runnign a bit behind
[21:54] <littlegirl> Oh, sorry!
[21:54] <eagles0513875_> but i have a nice short 5 day vacation in 2 weeks time :)
[21:54] <littlegirl> Well, that's good. (:
[21:54] <slickymaster> littlegirl, here you go http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/10/21/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t19:00
[21:54] <eagles0513875_> suprise trip to ireland with my gf's family for my gf's bday
[21:54] <littlegirl> I wish they didn't do UTC. It's very confusing. My UTC doesn't use the 24 hour clock. (:
[21:55] <littlegirl> eagles0513875_: Oh, that sounds wonderful!
[21:55] <littlegirl> slickymaster: Thanks! I'll grab them. (:
[21:55] <slickymaster> littlegirl, np
[21:55] <eagles0513875_> littlegirl: planning on taking my camera and taking lots of pics
[21:55] <littlegirl> I was so caught up in learning Python that I didn't even remember there was a meeting. Then I took a break and checked my email and there was the message saying there was a meeting, so I immediately came in here. (:
[21:56] <eagles0513875_> hey slickymaster
[21:56] <slickymaster> eagles0513875, yes?
[21:56] <littlegirl> eagles0513875_: I would, too. (:
[21:56] <eagles0513875_> littlegirl: better late then never
[21:56] <eagles0513875_> slickymaster: just saying hey :)
[21:56] <slickymaster> eagles0513875, ok ;)
[21:56] <littlegirl> Yeah, but darn, I wanted to actually attend - especially since I said I could.
[21:56] <littlegirl> slickymaster: Oh, pretty - it's in color! (:
[21:57] <eagles0513875_> hehe
[21:57] <littlegirl> Will that stay up for a while?
[21:57] <slickymaster> littlegirl, we do need plenty of colors these days
[21:57] <eagles0513875_> now  at midnight i need to figure out how to integrate this form with some modified programming to get it to do what i need it to do.
[21:57] <littlegirl> slickymaster: Oh, I'm all about colors. (:
[21:57] <slickymaster> littlegirl, :)
[21:58] <eagles0513875_> which i think is a bad idea
[21:58] <littlegirl> eagles0513875_: That sounds like it may or may not be worse than the floating points we were just learning. (:
[21:59] <eagles0513875_> littlegirl: floating points arent that bad
[21:59] <eagles0513875_> if it means breaking an entire website or the plugin that is worse
[21:59] <eagles0513875_> as i really need to get this site completed.
[22:00] <littlegirl> eagles0513875_: Oh, well I'll cross my fingers for you that you get it done. (:
[22:00] <slickymaster> littlegirl, as I have you here, in https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsSw0cKYcffNdFlFakF5M0VjR002UEVvakVPZGpydHc#gid=0
[22:00] <eagles0513875_> thanks littlegirl  i hav ebene dragging it on a bit too long
[22:00] <slickymaster> the pages mentioned on the first column, how do we manage to get their url?
[22:01] <littlegirl> slickymaster: Oh, hang on a sec... I can find that. They're on Launchpad. Getting the main link...
[22:02] <slickymaster> littlegirl, take your time, please
[22:03] <littlegirl> slickymaster: Here is the main Launchpad link for the Saucy ones: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-docs/saucy
[22:04] <littlegirl> slickymaster: You click the "Browse the code" link partway down the page to navigate through the directory.
[22:04] <littlegirl> slickymaster: Here is the Launchpad link for the Trusty ones: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-docs/trusty
[22:04] <slickymaster> littlegirl, thank you so much, you spare me a few hours searching it
[22:04] <littlegirl> slickymaster: No problem - I'm glad to help! (:
[22:04] <littlegirl> slickymaster: If you want to change them, you don't do it there, though. Do you have them downloaded with Bazaar?
[22:06] <slickymaster> littlegirl, yeah, I know. Not yet, I'm going to branch it in a moment
[22:06] <littlegirl> slickymaster: Another couple I find useful are Ubuntu branches of documentation (EVERYthing): https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-doc-project
[22:06] <slickymaster> littlegirl, thanks for the heads-up
[22:07] <littlegirl> slickymaster: And this one is Ubuntu branches owned by Ubuntu documentation committers: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc
[22:08] <littlegirl> slickymaster: Any time. I just discovered the last two yesterday when I looked all over to try to edit the help.ubuntu.com pages and couldn't find it. (:
[22:08] <littlegirl> With those last two there shouldn't be any of the Ubuntu code that can hide from you... I think. (:
[22:08] <slickymaster> littlegirl, I can see how these last two can become handy
[22:09] <slickymaster> littlegirl, there's enough for starters
[22:09] <littlegirl> slickymaster: Yeah, I find the whole thing very confusing and I don't know why it's not all in one place or all done the same way, but at least we can find it all, and usually find someone in here to ask if we can't figure it out. (:
[22:10] <littlegirl> My approach is to walk up to leaky walls and stick bubblegum in them and then walk away. I don't always stick around, but I keep coming back to check on the wall from time to time. (:
[22:10] <eagles0513875_> ya littlegirl  its somethign i brought up earlier with godbyk
[22:10] <eagles0513875_> about having everythign in one place
[22:10] <eagles0513875_> i did bring up at the meeting of using a custom developed version of alfresco which is a proper document management system
[22:11] <littlegirl> eagles0513875_: It would be nice. I don't know why they don't do it.
[22:11] <eagles0513875_> the problem is 14.04 is an LTS
[22:11] <slickymaster> littlegirl, I think the reason relates to the difference between official documentation and wiki documentation
[22:11] <eagles0513875_> it would need time to be modified etc
[22:11] <eagles0513875_> and adapted to the needs of the projects but i twill make managing and versioning the documentation and even Images so muc heasier
[22:12] <littlegirl> slickymaster: Yeah, that's one of my pet peeves right there. I don't think they should be named that way. It's very confusing - especially for newbies, but even for those of us who have been using the 'buntus for quite some time. (:
[22:12] <littlegirl> eagles0513875_: What's wrong with Bazaar?
[22:12]  * littlegirl loooooves Bazaar
[22:12]  * slickymaster also enjoy working with bzr
[22:13] <eagles0513875_> littlegirl: nothing but i understand version control such as bzr mercurial svn and git to be more for programming code then documentation etc
[22:13] <eagles0513875_> hence why im makign a push for alfresco
[22:14] <eagles0513875_> or if need be code somethign from scratch using libCMIS
[22:14] <eagles0513875_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_Management_Interoperability_Services
[22:14] <eagles0513875_> preferably i would rather fork if need be alfresco and modify it for the needs of the ubuntu community and the projects as needed
[22:15] <littlegirl> eagles0513875_: Oh, not at all. I version control all my documents and I'm a writer, so there are lots of words on this computer. (:
[22:16] <eagles0513875_> littlegirl: think of it this way
[22:16] <eagles0513875_> do you want to have the hassle of having to pull massive amounts of data to your computer
[22:16] <eagles0513875_> with alfresco it can be versioned and managed all on a web interface
[22:16] <eagles0513875_> no repositories no nothing
[22:17] <littlegirl> eagles0513875_: Ah, well then you've made my mind up. I'm anti-cloud and all about keeping local copies of stuff, so I definitely want to pull the code. (:
[22:19] <littlegirl> eagles0513875_: This is an example of why there are so many different ways of doing things in Ubuntu. We all like different stuff, and somebody on one team probably said, "Hey, why don't we do things THIS way?" and somebody else said, "Good idea!" and maybe the other teams didn't want to, so that team went in a different direction. (:
[22:19] <eagles0513875_> littlegirl: also its very feature packed
[22:19] <eagles0513875_> has individual bug trackers for each project
[22:19] <eagles0513875_> easy to manage tasks and delegate tasks
[22:19] <eagles0513875_> i think a working prototype should be setup first and tried out
[22:20] <littlegirl> eagles0513875_: I'm sure it's very nice, but if it's online only and they used it, they would literally lose me as a contributor because that sort of thing isn't for me. (:
[22:20] <eagles0513875_> you can download the files obviously
[22:21] <eagles0513875_> littlegirl: wouldnt you have a piece of mind knowing your work is being backed up as well on the server in otherwords the document management system
[22:22] <littlegirl> eagles0513875_: Sure, that part is very nice, although if I'm a good girl and push my local changes with Bazaar, it gets backed up as well. I just like the freedom I have when I grab the code and work with it locally, and it's especially useful for people who travel and aren't at a reliable WiFi connection, but have a local copy of the code they can work on. (:
[22:23] <eagles0513875_> littlegirl:  you can still do so with alfresco
[22:23] <littlegirl> eagles0513875_: If it offers both, then it maybe definitely be a candidate. Then everyone can pick whether they want to work with local or remote copies of the files. (:
[22:23] <eagles0513875_> you can download individual files
[22:23] <eagles0513875_> i dunno fi something like bzr could be integrated into it
[22:24] <slickymaster> eagles0513875, littlegirl, have a good morning, day, night (according to your timezone)
[22:24] <littlegirl> eagles0513875_: Then you definitely might want to set up an example server and see if you can whet everyone's appetites.
[22:24] <littlegirl> slickymaster: You too, slickymaster!
[22:24] <eagles0513875_> littlegirl: ya im planning on it
[22:24] <eagles0513875_> was told by mhall i would need to create a juju charm to have it deployed.
[22:25] <littlegirl> I've used Subversion and Bazaar and would be willing to try out something new just for fun, and you never know - you might make a convert. (:
[22:25] <eagles0513875_> so i need to get that sorted out and then he can setup a test server on canonical cloud hardware
[22:25] <eagles0513875_> littlegirl:  :D
[22:25] <eagles0513875_> im thinking though might take advantage of the api and highly modify alfresco to meet everyones needs.
[22:25] <eagles0513875_> i potentially need as well to create a custom plugin which strips the mallard xml down to the text for the desktop docs
[22:26] <littlegirl> Can you use it as a personal versioning system on your computer independent of the internet if you want?
[22:26] <eagles0513875_> yes
[22:26] <eagles0513875_> the core of it is java so if you are going ot be the only one using it you can run it on your system locally
[22:26] <littlegirl> eagles0513875_: Any script could probably do that - Bash or Python or whatever. (:
[22:26] <eagles0513875_> it uses tomcat and they have a binary installer for download on their site
[22:26] <littlegirl> You have to install Java to use it?
[22:27] <eagles0513875_> yes
[22:27] <eagles0513875_> the core is written in java
[22:27] <eagles0513875_> im still debating if i should fork it and migrate it away from java
[22:27] <eagles0513875_> but then i would need to setup cross compilation to get it to work on windows and mac
[22:28] <eagles0513875_> http://www.alfresco.com/products/community if you are interested
[22:28] <littlegirl> Thanks, but since it's Java I wouldn't want it anyway, but if you fork it, you never know where it might go. (:
[22:29] <eagles0513875_> agreed.
[22:29] <eagles0513875_> the problem is time for me i have so many projects already
[22:31] <eagles0513875_> littlegirl: would love to fork launchpad
[22:31] <eagles0513875_> lol
[22:31] <eagles0513875_> and improve on it as a bug tracker
[22:31] <littlegirl> I know the feeling. I'm learning Python, playing with a new program I discovered and will eventually be contributing to, occasionally contributing to Kubuntu and Ubuntu, and doing some crocheting and knitting on the side. (:
[22:31] <eagles0513875_> littlegirl: i really want to finish this embedded system low cost point of sales concept that I haver
[22:31] <eagles0513875_> i almost have a fully fledged working prototype.
[22:32] <eagles0513875_> i need to find funding.
[22:32] <littlegirl> Then you'll probably do it! (:
[22:34] <eagles0513875_> i hope so cuz i could start really bringing in the clients and really cause my business to take off
[22:38] <eagles0513875_> sigh
[22:38] <eagles0513875_> i could get or try to get EU funding for the project
[22:38] <eagles0513875_> the thing is i need to do a business plan
[22:40] <littlegirl> Heh, I've been reading the meeting minutes and only just realized that the first meeting isn't it. Apparently the doc team meeting is part-way down that page. (:
[22:40] <eagles0513875_> well im so bhored here at work im adding new potential connections on linked in
[22:40] <eagles0513875_> lol thank god littlegirl  you are around to keep me company
[22:42] <littlegirl> Aw, I'm sorry it's so boring there! I'm not bored because I'm finally "at" the meeting. (:
[22:43] <eagles0513875_> littlegirl: nah i have lots of work other then the sitting around i have to do for this work but i dont feel like doing it
[22:45] <littlegirl> eagles0513875_: You just showed up at the meeting. (:
[22:46] <eagles0513875_> hehe
[22:46] <eagles0513875_> :D
[22:46] <eagles0513875_> and i wouldnt shut up
[22:46] <eagles0513875_> at the end of it
[22:46] <littlegirl> What's an SRU?
[22:47] <eagles0513875_> good question
[22:47] <eagles0513875_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates littlegirl
[22:47] <eagles0513875_> SRU stable release updates
[22:47] <littlegirl> eagles0513875_: Ah, thanks! (:
[22:48]  * littlegirl thinks all abbreviations should be done away with
[22:48] <eagles0513875_> littlegirl: googled it :p
[22:51] <littlegirl> I like bkerensas idea of a weekly status message being sent out on the mailing list so everyone knows what's going on and what needs to be done. Very nice organization technique that would really work. (:
[22:52] <eagles0513875_> i agree there
[22:53] <littlegirl> I'm wondering why everyone uses Google docs or the Ubuntu wiki to keep track of work when Launchpad offers such a nice Blueprint system.
[22:54] <eagles0513875_> im moving away from google in general
[22:55] <eagles0513875_> emails are going to start going to my business email accouhnt
[23:01] <belkinsa> littlegirl, do you have the link to the logs of the meeting?
[23:01] <belkinsa> Never mind, phillw passed me thelink
[23:03]  * eagles0513875_ pokes littlegirl  with some balloons 
[23:06] <littlegirl> Whoops, sorry - I was away from keys: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/10/21/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t19:00
[23:07] <littlegirl> belkinsa: It's about a third of the way down. (:
[23:08] <belkinsa> Thanks.
[23:52] <littlegirl> Well, it's feeding time here, so I'm off. I converted the meeting minutes into a PDF so I can finish reading them later. See you later and have fun! (: