[04:43] <pitti> stgraber: ah, thanks; sounds likely
[04:43] <pitti> Good morin
[04:43] <pitti> Good morning
[05:06] <jibel> Good morning
[05:38] <DanChapman> good mornin
[05:38] <DanChapman> *g
[05:45] <Noskcaj> hey DanChapman
[08:45] <jibel> pitti, FYI http://10.98.0.1:8080/view/Trusty/view/AutoPkgTest/, I filed a ticket to create the view on jenkins.qa.u.c
[08:47] <slickymaster> morning all
[08:48] <pitti> jibel: nice, thanks! I was about to ask, but didn't want to bother you about it that early
[08:49] <pitti> jibel: I'm looking into the visp failure, I can reproduce it locally
[08:50] <jibel> pitti, lot of jobs fails with uninstallable packages
[08:51] <jibel> pitti, I'm finishing the setup, update the doc, and will go through the failures
[09:59] <davmor2> Morning all
[10:22] <slickymaster> davmor2: morning
[10:49] <alourie> DanChapman: ping
[10:50] <DanChapman> alourie, Hey :-)
[10:51] <alourie> DanChapman: got a moment for autopilot consulting?
[10:52] <DanChapman> alourie, yeah go for it
[10:52] <alourie> ok
[10:52] <alourie> so
[10:52] <alourie> 1. How can I test things like lightdm?
[10:52] <alourie> which are not really 'normal' apps
[10:53] <alourie> 2. Is it possible to test with actual X session running? like, on headless servers
[10:55] <knome> stgraber, hey, now that we've released, maybe there could be some time to look at the visual updates for the QA trackers?
[10:55] <alourie> DanChapman: ^^
[10:57] <DanChapman> alourie, I'm probably not the best person to talk to about testing applications like lightdm, Your best off talking to thomi, (he is NZ timezone though) or veebers or asking on the autopilot mailing list.
[10:57] <DanChapman> pitti, ^^ have you any idea?
[10:57] <alourie> DanChapman: how about headless testing?
[11:05] <DanChapman> alourie, sorry had a phone call. So do you mean running tests in something like xvfb?
[11:06] <alourie> DanChapman: well, I was more thinking about having a testing server in a cloud without X installed :-)
[11:06] <alourie> or, rather, without actual X session running
[11:12] <DanChapman> As far as I know it runs fine. pitti made a blog post about it I think the minimum requirements were xvfb and a session D-BUS. let me see if i can find a link
[11:12] <DanChapman> alourie, http://www.piware.de/2013/08/run-autopilot-test-in-autopkgtest/
[11:15] <pitti> DanChapman, alourie: lightdm makes some demands on having a system bus, etc. the actual lightdm backend doens't need X, but the greeters do
[11:15] <pitti> it's probably easiest to have an xorg.conf which configures the dummy driver
[11:15] <alourie> pitti: so how does one go testing various login managers?
[11:16] <alourie> well, various is a bit of overgeneralisation :-)
[11:16] <alourie> I need it for elementary
[11:16] <alourie> :-)
[12:38] <balloons> hello doug5 :-)
[12:38] <balloons> howdy smartboyhw
[12:38] <doug5> hello!
[12:39] <DanChapman> afternoon balloons o/
[12:39] <smartboyhw> balloons, that's early;)
[12:39] <smartboyhw> How's the party?
[12:39] <balloons> hey DanChapman !
[12:40] <balloons> release party? i celebrated the best way possible. Away from keyboard :-)
[12:40] <smartboyhw> balloons, lol
[12:40] <smartboyhw> So, what you gonna do today balloons ?
[12:42] <balloons> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27m_going_to_Disney_World!
[12:43] <smartboyhw> balloons, eh, *again*?
[12:44] <balloons> actually I've never been, nor do I have plans.. Seriously we'll be starting work on all the stuff we want to do for trusty
[12:45] <smartboyhw> balloons, which is? (Anticipating another blog post, yay)
[13:11] <balloons> smartboyhw, yea I won't list them all out here, however
[13:12] <balloons> getting ubiquity automation fully finished, and some tweaks to manual testing, as well as some new stuff for us to do as a team
[13:18] <DanChapman> balloons, I'll get that wiki page filled out this week :-) so then we can get folks over to it.
[13:19] <balloons> DanChapman, yes I know.. suddenly we have time and focus we can apply :-)
[13:23] <DanChapman> balloons, I had an email convo with thomi last week about holding non-fatal errors until the end of the install. Thomi spoke with one of the testtools authors and they are going to implement it in there, thomi said it wouldn't be until the S cycle work is complete. I have implemented something that's working ok until then :-)
[13:24] <balloons> DanChapman, perfect.. Yes, I think we talked about how we wanted to see this done at the test level -- glad to hear it is!
[13:31] <robotfuel> fginther: ping
[13:31] <fginther> robotfuel, pong
[13:32] <robotfuel> fginther: https://code.launchpad.net/~chris.gagnon/cupstream2distro-config/mir-dev-enable-armhf/+merge/191987 can I get this approved? I need armhf builds for the mir-development branch
[13:35] <fginther> robotfuel, approved
[13:43] <robotfuel> fginther: my yaml indent was off by one can you re-approve? https://code.launchpad.net/~chris.gagnon/cupstream2distro-config/mir-dev-enable-armhf/+merge/191987
[13:46] <fginther> robotfuel, done
[13:54] <robotfuel> fginther: thanks!
[14:23] <slickymaster> afternoon all
[14:56] <robotfuel> iahmad__: ping
[18:33] <robotfuel> fginther: ping
[18:33] <fginther> robotfuel, hey
[18:34] <robotfuel> fginther: I need to disabled junit publishing and coverage for armhf on mir devel builds, I think I did it correctly https://code.launchpad.net/~chris.gagnon/cupstream2distro-config/mir-dev-disable-junit-publish-armhf/+merge/192035
[18:34] <robotfuel> fginther: when you have time can you take a look and approve?
[18:35] <fginther> robotfuel, sure
[18:35] <fginther> cd
[18:39] <alesage> fginther@slayerofbugz:~$
[19:13] <thomi> morning
[19:23] <Letozaf_> balloons, Hello
[19:23] <balloons> Letozaf_, buonsera
[19:23] <Letozaf_> balloons, buonasera :D
[19:24] <Letozaf_> balloons, I was running the rssreader app tests and I see that they fail, can I fix them or are you guys having some issues
[19:24] <balloons> Letozaf_, you are always welcome to fix things :-)
[19:24] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok fine :P
[19:24] <balloons> I'm not working on them, nor anyone else I know of
[19:40] <robotfuel> fginther: have you had a chance to look at https://code.launchpad.net/~chris.gagnon/cupstream2distro-config/mir-dev-disable-junit-publish-armhf/+merge/192035?
[19:45] <fginther> robotfuel, approved now
[19:45] <robotfuel> thanks again fginther!
[19:53] <dkessel> good evening
[19:57] <balloons> evening dkessel
[19:58] <balloons> Wie gehts?
[19:59] <knome> hey balloons
[20:00] <balloons> hey knome ! you made it out alive.. congrats to you and the xubuntu team  :-)
[20:00] <knome> hehe, we did... thanks!
[20:00] <knome> some bugs we definitely squat for 14.04 though
[20:00] <knome> *need to
[20:09] <dkessel> balloons, danke, gut :)
[20:11] <dkessel> balloons, i might have a day or two next week which i could spend helping...
[20:11] <balloons> dkessel, excellent. are you interested in helping out with some autopilot tests again?
[20:12] <dkessel> well, actually... is there anything else to do? :)
[20:17] <Letozaf_> balloons, where has this page gone ? http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/devel/ubuntu-13.04/autopilot/ubuntuuitoolkit.html#module-ubuntuuitoolkit.emulators
[20:17] <balloons> dkessel, of course ;-)
[20:18] <Letozaf_> balloons, wanted to take a look at the docs
[20:19] <balloons> I'll be sharing some more details soon on what I'd like us to pursue for next cycle. Aside from writing tests, you can work on tools like testdrive, or help write or clean up manual tests
[20:19] <balloons> it's SO early in the cycle we don't pursue a lot of manual testing just yet
[20:19] <balloons> for manual tests, have a look here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/
[20:20] <phillw> balloons: please ping me when you have a spare 10 - 15 mins to spare.
[20:20] <balloons> for testdrive have a look here: https://launchpad.net/testdrive. The bugs are up to date for both
[20:20] <dkessel> balloons, ok i'll have a look at testdrive
[20:21] <balloons> dkessel, noskcaj and smertboyhw (jackson and howard respectively) have played around the most with it and have some commits. I believe DanChapman also was doing some work or thinking or doing the work to port it to gtk3
[20:21] <phillw> dkessel: testdrive needs some updating owing to the release version being hard coded in. This is not a wise decision; but I'm not TL for test drive.
[20:22] <balloons> anyways testdrive is in python, so it should be familar enough
[20:23] <balloons> Letozaf_, the did some big site changes and this must have not moved over
[20:23] <dkessel> are any of these available during normal central european working hours?
[20:23] <phillw> balloons: getting commits in for the code is looking even worse for the fact it falls over when a new version of VBox or virt-man lands is painful.
[20:23] <balloons> I know cgoldberg was working on a more permanent solution for the autopilot gtk emulator docs. Any updates?
[20:23] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok
[20:24] <balloons> dkessel, DanChapman is around yes, as is smartboyhw
[20:24] <phillw> balloons: but, none of that is my reason to ask for a chat :)
[20:25] <dkessel> phillw, balloons, ok hacking testdrive sound nice. i'll have a look at the bug until next week
[20:26]  * DanChapman could feel his ears burning
[20:28] <phillw> DanChapman: if you're test drive... then yes; it owuld have been your ears burning :D
[20:29] <balloons> dkessel, lovely. ping myself or one of the others I mentioned for help/insight
[20:29] <balloons> should be a nice refreshing change :-)
[20:30] <fginther> robotfuel, the updates to the mir job are still in progress, it got stuck due to a build already in progress which will probably fail due to the junit issue
[20:31] <robotfuel> fginther: I probably kicked that build off to early :/
[20:31] <robotfuel> fginther: I cancel the job
[20:31] <robotfuel> fginther: so it should be ready
[20:32] <fginther> robotfuel, yep, now it's done
[20:32] <robotfuel> \o/
[21:03] <dkessel> bb