[05:58] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn and others
[05:58]  * Kilos sees the fly is missing
[05:58] <Kilos> oh my
[05:58] <nlsthzn> morning
[06:09] <Kilos> hi Xethron 
[06:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings :)
[06:18] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[06:18] <Kilos> oh ya smileys for the week
[06:19] <Kilos> :) :-) 
[06:24] <Kilos> hi bduk1 
[06:27] <bduk1> Good morning Kilos and everyone from a nice and wet Cullinan
[06:27] <Kilos> wonderful hey?
[06:28] <bduk1> Lovely, everytunig clean and fresh
[06:28] <Kilos> its good and clean and fresh tralala
[06:28] <bduk1> Shuut Listen i hear something......
[06:41] <nlsthzn> *burp*
[06:41] <Kilos> hehe
[07:03] <bduk1> Nope the grass is growing and calling the lawnmowers
[07:05] <Kilos> haha
[07:06] <inetpro> good mornings
[07:06] <Maaz> inetpro: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell inetpro on freenode. Im waiting for the answer to what -f does with fsck when you get online again please" 12 hours, 38 minutes and 45 seconds ago
[07:06] <inetpro> oh and hi Kilos
[07:06] <inetpro> Kilos: where did you get the -f
[07:06] <inetpro> ?
[07:07] <Kilos> from the crash kid when i couldnt fix my external way back then and it works like a charm
[07:07] <Kilos> oh ya morning inetpro 
[07:08] <Kilos> have used it from 10.10 to fix later versions that dont boot either
[07:09] <inetpro> hmm...
[07:10] <Kilos> its one of the few commands that have stuck in the noggin
[07:12] <inetpro> Kilos: Force checking even if filesystem is marked clean
[07:12] <Kilos> ah ty
[07:12] <inetpro> if you run 'fsck -h' it tells you
[07:12] <Kilos> where did you find that info?
[07:12] <Kilos> aha
[07:12] <Kilos> gracias amigo
[07:12] <inetpro> no problemos
[07:15] <nlsthzn> man fsck
[07:15] <nlsthzn> >.>
[07:15] <nlsthzn> :p
[07:15] <Kilos> its not in mine
[07:16] <Kilos> ive looked at man a few times to see if i didnt miss it
[07:16]  * Kilos hates man. its written for clever peeps
[07:21] <nlsthzn> but it typically shows all the flags with an explanation...
[07:22] <Kilos> mine doesnt show -f at all in unity or 10.10
[07:22] <Kilos> in 10.10 here now even fsck -h dont show it
[07:24] <Kilos> oh it says invalid option -h
[07:24] <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s21L8JJWUI
[07:31] <nlsthzn> try --h or --help
[07:31] <Kilos> ok
[07:33] <Kilos> nope but never mind i know now it means force
[07:36] <Kilos> without that i would have done double the number of reinstalls hehe
[08:34] <Squirm> morning
[08:34] <Kilos> hi Squirm  lekker wet?
[08:35] <Kilos> we had 30mm
[08:36] <Kilos> you guys get that daily
[08:36] <Squirm> very much so
[08:36] <Squirm> sun came out for a few hours, now it's becoming overcast and the temp is dropping
[08:36] <Squirm> according to our station we had 25mm, but I've been told that the rain catcher doesn't work very well
[08:37] <Squirm> Maaz: weather for Mooi River
[08:37] <Maaz> Squirm: City not found
[08:37] <Kilos> gotta be out in a nice open area with no trees or buildings close
[08:38] <Squirm> Maaz: weather for Treverton Schools
[08:38] <Squirm> Kilos: it's on top of a chimney, away from anything
[08:38] <Maaz> Squirm: City not found
[08:38] <Kilos> maybe its that site not sharing or adding mooiriver as a city
[08:38] <Squirm> it is though
[08:39] <Kilos> yeah but not sharing
[08:39] <Squirm> http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=-29.199%2C30.008&sp=IKWAZULU37
[08:39] <Kilos> only letting you see it
[08:39] <Squirm> I can't find any more options
[08:40] <Kilos> is that the link the bots use?
[08:40] <Kilos> not wund.com
[08:47] <Squirm> same thing
[08:48] <Squirm> http://www.wund.com/auto/wund/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=IKWAZULU37
[08:49] <Kilos> aha
[08:50] <Squirm> Maaz: weather for MooiRiver
[08:50] <Maaz> Squirm: City not found
[08:50] <Squirm> Maaz: weather for MooiRivier
[08:50] <Maaz> Squirm: I'm not feeling too well
[08:51] <Kilos> find a forums or something there and ask one of their geeks to sort it
[08:51] <Squirm> so, I did location searches on wudnerground
[08:51] <Squirm> mooi river says city not found
[08:51] <Squirm> mooirivier however, finds the data
[08:52] <Squirm> and it's the only one Maaz doesn't like
[08:52] <Squirm> Maaz: weather for MooiRivier
[08:52] <Squirm> http://www.wund.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=mooirivier
[08:52] <Maaz> Squirm: I'm not feeling too well
[08:52] <Squirm> it works there
[08:53] <Squirm> see
[08:53] <Squirm> not "City not found"
[08:53] <Kilos> yeah
[08:53] <Squirm> but
[08:53] <Squirm> it's still wrong
[08:54] <Kilos> QA, weather in MooiRivier
[08:54] <Squirm> may I should change my weather stations location from Mooi River to Mooirivier
[08:54] <Kilos> yeah and no capitals
[08:54] <Kilos> QA, hi
[08:54] <QA> Kilos: In Estcourt, South Africa at 8:00 AM SAST on October 21, 2013: 17°C; Humidity: 59%; Wind: WSW at 4 km/h; Conditions: Partly Cloudy; Sunrise/set: 5:16 AM SAST/6:13 PM SAST; Moonrise/set: 8:39 PM SAST/6:48 AM SAST
[08:54] <QA> hoe gaan dit
[08:55] <Kilos> she finds estcourt as close by
[08:55] <Squirm> yeah
[08:55] <Squirm> that's why I think Mooi River != Mooirivier
[08:56] <Kilos> thats half afrikaans
[08:56] <Kilos> rivier should be river
[08:56] <Kilos> hi psyatw 
[08:57] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[09:43] <Kilos> nlsthzn, with ntfsprogs installed running fsck should then check ntfs drives and partitions without running ntfsfix separately wont it\
[09:44] <Kilos> ntfsfix is in ntfsprogs i read
[09:46] <Squirm> what happened to mirror.ac.za?
[09:47] <Kilos> ask Maaz  if its down
[09:47] <Kilos> whats the link?
[09:47] <Squirm> it is down
[09:47] <Kilos> aw
[09:48] <Squirm> Maaz: is mirror.ac.za down
[09:48] <Maaz> Squirm: Yes, http://mirror.ac.za/ is down (No DNS A/CNAME-records for that domain)
[09:48] <Squirm> what
[09:48] <Squirm> wow
[09:48] <Squirm> ok
[09:48] <Kilos> whew then they gotta fix it
[09:48] <Kilos> Symmetria, wake them up
[09:48] <Kilos> wb superfly 
[09:48] <Kilos> and morning
[09:48] <Squirm> Kilos: that to me, means the subdomain has been removed
[09:49] <Kilos> maybe updating or something. i dunno about them things
[09:50] <superfly> Thanks. Dunno what happened there... my server just was no longer responding
[09:50] <Squirm> Maaz: is www.mirror.ac.za down
[09:50] <Maaz> Squirm: No, it's just you
[09:50] <Squirm> hmm
[09:51] <Squirm> that seems to work
[09:51] <Kilos> haha
[09:51]  * Squirm shrugs
[09:51] <Kilos> they maybe rebooted because of power out or something
[09:52] <Squirm> no
[09:52] <Squirm> www.mirror.ac.za works but mirror.ac.za doesn't
[09:52] <Kilos> oh
[09:52] <Squirm> I'm sure it used to though
[09:52] <Kilos> Maaz, google mirror.ac.za
[09:52] <Maaz> Kilos: "mirror.ac.za - Brought to you by TENET" http://www.mirror.ac.za/ :: "Welcome to the UFS mirror - University of the Free State" http://mirror.ufs.ac.za/ :: "Mirrors | UCT LEG" http://www.leg.uct.ac.za/mirrors :: "Ubuntu Mirror | UCT LEG" http://www.leg.uct.ac.za/mirrors/linux/ubuntu :: "Fedora Mirror | UCT LEG" http://www.leg.uct.ac.za/fedora-mirror :: "UCT
[09:52] <Maaz> Linux Enthusiasts Group" http://ftp.leg.uct.ac.za/ :: "UCT LEG | The University of Cape T…
[09:57] <nlsthzn> Kilos, why you speak geek... I have no idea
[09:58] <Kilos> lol
[09:59] <Kilos> i thought it was you that told me to try ntfsfix
[09:59] <Kilos> sorry
[10:01] <nlsthzn> nope
[10:01] <Kilos> i forget who it was and am on maverick so dont see scrollbacks
[10:02] <Kilos> i find openoffice.org  word processor thing slightly easier to use than libreoffice writer
[10:03] <Kilos> things are too modern for me
[10:09] <nlsthzn> can't see why... the new libre office is AWESOME
[10:10] <Kilos> ya but too clever for me man
[10:10] <Kilos> mind you i will try it again
[10:10] <Kilos> trying to find how to make a book cover
[10:11] <Kilos> oh it was charl that told me about ntfsfix
[10:14] <nlsthzn> there shoudln't be that much of a difference between OO and LO for what you want to do... 
[10:16] <Kilos> maybe its because im just starting out for first time, so need to learn first. scribus and LO and OO is too much to get in at once. gotta go the one step at a time route
[10:17] <Kilos> didnt ever think id use any office stuffs
[10:23] <nlsthzn> always something new to learn :) and get frustrated with 
[10:23] <Kilos> hahaha
[10:30] <inetpro> Kilos: there must be very very few differences between OO and LO
[10:30] <inetpro> no point in wasting your bandwidth on downloading OO
[10:30] <Kilos> i have it in maverick inetpro 
[10:31] <Kilos> i still love the maverick
[10:31] <inetpro> ahh, that's old man
[10:31] <Kilos> ya ma me too
[10:31] <inetpro> LO just got better
[10:31] <inetpro> not more difficult
[10:34] <nlsthzn> LO 4 is super fast too
[10:38] <Kilos> hmm... bit of rain killed my tower
[10:38] <inetpro> Kilos: 21/10 12:34:03 <nlsthzn> LO 4 is super fast too
[10:38] <inetpro> Kilos: did you see that ^?
[10:38] <Kilos> fast isnt the thing here inetpro 
[10:38] <Kilos> nope
[10:38] <inetpro> ai!
[10:38] <nlsthzn> lol
[10:39] <nlsthzn> fast and the same >.>
[10:39] <nlsthzn> and fast
[10:39] <Squirm> it rained again
[10:39] <Squirm> or is still raining
[10:39] <Kilos> ill go try LO again
[10:39] <Kilos> on and off with the odd bit of thunder
[10:40] <Kilos> aw signal shows red again
[10:40] <nlsthzn> here we have had sand with a high likelyhood of more sand
[10:41] <Kilos> emergencies only
[10:41] <Kilos> lol at nlsthzn 
[10:42] <Kilos> you lucky its not same as wet rain then when we get hail you would get bricks
[10:42] <nlsthzn> no, we get mud
[10:43] <Kilos> ok i go back to libreoffice, wbb
[10:43] <Kilos> Maaz, whats for lunch
[10:43] <Maaz> Goats cheese on crackers and a bowl of salad for you fat people
[10:43] <Kilos> ai!
[10:49]  * Kilos came again back
[11:06] <nlsthzn> wb
[11:06] <Kilos> ty
[11:07] <nlsthzn> np
[11:07] <Kilos> haha
[11:08] <Kilos> LO looks a bit easier now i found some stuff on OO
[11:08] <Kilos> one step at a time
[11:09] <nlsthzn> :)
[11:09] <nlsthzn> which version of LO?
[11:09] <Kilos> oh my
[11:09] <Kilos> who knows
[11:09] <Kilos> the version with 12.04
[11:11] <Kilos> letter fax agenda grrr where is the book option
[11:13] <nlsthzn> lol
[11:13] <nlsthzn> what are you trying to do uncle Kilos ?
[11:13] <Kilos> write a book
[11:17] <Kilos> they should make things simple, like with a next page button
[11:18] <Kilos> too involved with buttons and bullets and snaakse stuff
[11:27] <Kilos> like to add a page its insert manual break. why not add a page
[11:27] <Kilos> grrr
[11:28] <nlsthzn> first you write the book... and later you worry about formatting ;)
[11:31] <Kilos> lol
[11:34] <Kilos> i go eat pap and stew with chilli sauce on top
[11:51] <charl_> good afternoon
[11:51] <charl_> Maaz: coffee on
[11:51]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[11:55] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl_!
[11:55] <charl_> Maaz: thanks
[11:55] <Maaz> charl_: No problem
[11:57] <Kilos> hi charl_ 
[12:01] <charl_> hi Kilos 
[12:01] <charl_> how's it going
[12:01] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[12:06] <Kilos> ah nlsthzn it be clever. if you hold enter after finished typing in one page it automatically makes more
[12:06] <charl_> i'm good thanks
[12:06] <nlsthzn> interesting
[12:07] <Kilos> i asked poor neelsie something i shoulda asked you charl_ 
[12:07] <Kilos> i go find it
[12:07] <Kilos> aw on the wrong drive
[12:07] <Kilos> its was
[12:08] <inetpro> Kilos: 21/10 13:28:20 <nlsthzn> first you write the book... and later you worry about formatting ;)
[12:08]  * inetpro agrees with nlsthzn
[12:08] <Kilos> will running fsck do the ntfsfix automatically if you have ntfsprogs installed?
[12:08] <Kilos> write it where inetpro ?
[12:09] <Kilos> im doing it with gedit atm
[12:09] <charl_> hi inetpro 
[12:09] <charl_> hi liamT 
[12:09] <Kilos> then copy paste
[12:09] <Kilos> hi liamT 
[12:09] <inetpro> Kilos: just write your words and sentences as they come in one long page
[12:09] <Kilos> oh my
[12:09] <liamT> hey chaps
[12:10] <Kilos> that could maybe make things easier ya
[12:10] <Kilos> ty guys
[12:10] <inetpro> s/word and sentences/words, sentences and paragraphs/
[12:10] <Kilos> like my blog of old inetpro ?
[12:10] <inetpro> Kilos: exactly
[12:10] <Kilos> nou reen dit lekker
[12:10] <Kilos> danke
[12:11] <inetpro> but Kilos, if you think about adding too many images then you may want to reconsider using something like scribe
[12:12] <Kilos> no i only want an image on the cover
[12:12] <Kilos> still gotta find how to make a cover
[12:12] <inetpro> start with just the text and worry about image later
[12:12] <Kilos> will do ty
[12:12] <Kilos> yo zerlgi 
[12:13] <zerlgi> yo Kilos
[12:13] <Kilos> i still see formatting as wiping a win drive
[12:23] <nlsthzn> install focuswriter uncle Kilos ... it is made for people wanting to write books without distraction... 
[12:24] <Kilos> hmm... more to learn
[12:33] <Kilos> eeek
[12:34] <Kilos> full screen so no launcher app switcher in view
[12:36] <Kilos> thats frighening
[12:36] <Kilos> frightening
[12:36] <zerlgi> [alt + tab]
[12:38] <nlsthzn> mouse up and menu appears
[12:38] <nlsthzn> :p
[12:38] <Kilos> whew
[12:39] <Kilos> alt+tab dont work
[12:40] <Kilos> but that mouse up helps so i can close it
[12:41] <Kilos> or must you do the alt+tab inside the brackets
[12:42] <Kilos> hehe
[12:47] <nlsthzn> alt tab should work if there is another application open ;)
[12:48] <Kilos> didnt. i got pidgin xchat and LO open
[12:48] <nlsthzn> that is odd then
[12:49] <Kilos> i dont think ive ever managed to get it to work here
[12:49] <Kilos> not serious im getting LO working slowly
[12:51] <nlsthzn> cool
[12:51] <inetpro> Kilos: what do you mean with "alt+tab dont work"?
[12:53] <Kilos> i run that focus thing and got white screen to type in but only when i found moving mouse up opened the top panel toolbar thing alt tab didnt go to other apps
[12:53] <Kilos> dont work was written in plain english
[12:53] <Kilos> hehe
[12:54] <Kilos> page just stayed white
[12:55] <Kilos> maybe in its settings i can make it not use full screen , will check that out
[12:56] <Kilos> there thats better
[12:56] <inetpro> Kilos: hold down the alt key and press tab multiple times
[12:57] <inetpro> Kilos: you never use that?
[12:57] <Kilos> alt tab brought up a tiny window shownig pidgin and a red X but disappeared before i could do anything
[12:58] <Kilos> focus works fine now the full screen is unticked in settings
[12:59] <Kilos> full page but still see launcher and top panel
[12:59] <inetpro> the point of it is to focus only on writing
[13:00] <Kilos> no man
[13:00] <Kilos> writing requires thinking and thats makes headaches
[13:00] <Kilos> so good to think its bursts
[13:17] <nlsthzn> uncle Kilos fails at focuswriter :p
[13:17] <Kilos> nope man it works now
[13:18]  * nlsthzn will be using it in November for the NaNoWriMo
[13:18] <Kilos> btw i watched a program on the idiot bot last night about steve jobs
[13:19] <Kilos> interesting
[13:38] <charl_> the idiot bot, is that the tv?
[13:38] <charl_> hi nlsthzn 
[13:46] <Kilos> idiot box sorry
[13:46] <Kilos> ya tv
[14:15] <inetpro> Kilos: how's the weather?
[14:15] <Kilos> sun shining but thunder over the mountain
[14:15]  * inetpro seeing alerts about a massive storm coming from the north
[14:16] <Kilos> there where you stay i thinkd or maybe a bit west
[14:16] <Kilos> yeah thats where its thundering
[14:16] <inetpro> ai!
[14:17] <inetpro> hope my mealies can be spared from the forecasted hail
[14:18] <Kilos> never mind if it hails they grow agan and the extra nitrogen makes them even better
[14:19] <Kilos> hail is magic water unless it knocks peaches off the trees
[14:19] <inetpro> eish man!
[14:20] <inetpro> will have to wait and see
[14:21] <Kilos> yeah we cant control the weather
[14:21] <Kilos> you can also quickly insure your mealies with centraoes
[14:21] <Kilos> hehe
[14:22] <Kilos> then after hail they pay and mealies grow again anyway
[14:22] <Kilos> so pays double
[14:27] <inetpro> ai!
[14:37] <charl_> inetpro: you have a farm?
[14:38] <charl_> whow
[14:38] <inetpro> charl_: just a small plot 
[14:39] <charl_> cool, growing you own food is nice
[14:40] <inetpro> gives me a bit of a farmers feel in a big city
[14:40] <charl_> you live on the plot too?
[14:40] <Kilos> still time now inetpro you can plant sweetcorn as well
[14:40] <charl_> that sounds awesome, having a small farm in your back yard
[14:41] <Kilos> yeah
[14:41] <inetpro> Kilos: yep I should plant more now that the rain has started
[14:41]  * nlsthzn goes home
[14:41] <nlsthzn> bye
[14:41] <charl_> ciao nlsthzn 
[14:41] <Kilos> but things dont grow lekker here too many bugs and cutworms and things
[14:41] <Kilos> toods nlsthzn 
[17:06] <Kilos> inetpro, het jy nat gekry. dit reen nou weer hier
[17:06] <inetpro> Kilos: nope, het tuis geland met slegs 'n paar druppels op die visor
[17:07] <Kilos> moo9i
[17:07] <inetpro> en die hael het gelukkig weggebly hier
[17:07] <Kilos> mooi ook
[17:07] <Kilos> dit sous hier nou
[17:07] <Kilos> 34mm so ver van dit gister begin het
[17:07] <inetpro> ja ek hoor die gerol van die donderweer in die verte
[17:07] <inetpro> nice!
[17:08] <Kilos> gras gaan nou soos bossies groei
[17:08] <Kilos> hehe
[17:08] <inetpro> ons het maar sowat 23mm gehad vanaf Saterdag
[17:08] <inetpro> maar dit sal ook baie help 
[17:09] <Kilos> ja
[17:43] <inetpro> Kilos: ai!
[17:44] <inetpro> Kilos: jy't al die waters vir jouself gevat?
[18:13] <Kilos> hahaha dankie man
[18:13] <Kilos> gewoonlik kry jy twee keer so veel as ons
[18:14] <Kilos> im sure mage didnt even come online the weekend
[18:15] <Kilos> inetpro, ons het skape om te voer man
[18:16] <Kilos> o ja wat gebeiur met jou hoenders en die ape
[18:16] <Kilos> gebeur
[18:41] <Squirm> evening
[18:42] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[18:44] <inetpro> Kilos: die hoenders is darem weer rustig
[18:44] <inetpro> twee henne met sowat 12 kuikens elk
[18:44] <Kilos> apie weg inetpro ?
[18:44] <Kilos> mooi
[18:44] <inetpro> weet nie wat van hom geword het nie
[18:44] <Kilos> jy boer weer vorentoe
[18:45] <Kilos> iemand het hom seker gepot
[18:45] <Kilos> lyk of reen klaar is nou hier
[18:46] <inetpro> wow, nou eers?
[18:46] <Kilos> goed geval net nou
[18:46] <inetpro> mooi!
[18:46] <Kilos> ja dit moet nou naby 40mm wees
[18:46] <inetpro> ons het maar 'n paar druppeltjies gehad vanaand
[18:46] <Kilos> sal more kyk
[18:46] <Kilos> ai! shame man
[19:02] <inetpro> nog donderweer?
[19:03] <Kilos> inetpro, hier begin dit weer storm
[19:03] <Kilos> hehe
[19:03] <Kilos> het jy gehoor?
[19:03] <Kilos> dit reen weer saggies
[19:03] <inetpro> yep
[19:03] <inetpro> interessante weer
[19:03] <Kilos> ya
[19:04] <inetpro> baie koel vanaand
[19:04] <Kilos> ja
[19:04] <Kilos> koud more 24°c
[19:05] <inetpro> 24 is lekker
[19:07] <Kilos> nee man 34 is lekker
[19:08] <inetpro> sjoe, nee dis te warm
[19:08] <Kilos> ai!
[19:09] <Kilos> nou sous dit weer
[19:11] <inetpro> hmm... steeds niks hier
[19:11] <Kilos> dit moet nog daar val vanaand
[19:12] <Kilos> kannie net hier reen nie
[19:12] <inetpro> hoop maar dit kom nog
[19:13] <Kilos> ja
[19:21] <Kilos> klaar nou
[19:30] <inetpro> Kilos: hier kom hy nou
[19:31] <Kilos> mooi
[19:32] <Kilos> sleep tight all of you
[19:32] <Kilos> see you tomorrow
[19:33] <inetpro> good night Kilos
[19:33] <Kilos> night my friend