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Noskcajknome, Has there been any progress on xubuntu t-shirts and (possibly) mugs? 00:10
NoskcajAnd can we add the idea of a t-shirt where we have just a small version of the logo on the breast pocket? Then we'll have something that doesn't scream "I AM THE ULTMATE FOSS NERD"00:14
NoskcajAlso, http://opentshirts.com/ looks like an interesting place to get the t-shirts00:15
Noskcaj(i don't really understand it though)00:16
NoskcajIt turns out http://www.zazzle.com.au/xubuntu+tshirts is already selling our stuff00:19
brainwashNoskcaj: hey, are you familiar with xfpm?00:24
Noskcajbrainwash, I don't remember what it stands for, if i did i might be00:25
brainwashxfce4-power-manager00:25
brainwash:)00:25
NoskcajSort of00:27
NoskcajNothing code related though00:27
brainwashso xfce4-power-manager lacks the ability to inhibit systemd's lid-close and power-button actions and I just want to know, if it's worth to spend some time to implement this functionality for saucy (a patch seems to exists, but wasn't accepted upstream as of now)00:28
brainwashbug 122202100:29
ubottubug 1222021 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Laptop sleeps when lid is closed, regardless of Power Manager Settings." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122202100:29
brainwashif no, I won't bother wasting my time00:29
Unit193brainwash: Another idea was to re-fork GPM and strip out all of Gnome.00:29
Noskcajbrainwash, Please do. That's been affecting me since may (when i upgraded to saucy). I've not been able to shut my lid since00:29
NoskcajAnd it causes a heap of resume failure bugs too00:30
brainwashNoskcaj: there is an easy workaround, see last comment00:30
brainwashbut it should work ootb00:30
brainwashand xfpm should be aware of systemd/logind, just like g-s-d00:31
NoskcajIt would be great if we could get a full support fix, but we should try to add the workaround to saucy and trusty ASAP00:31
Unit193brainwash: Oh, know of any resume issues needing me to  service network-manager restart  ?00:32
Unit193(Trusty is somewhat pre-dev.)00:32
brainwashyea......00:32
Unit193Not every time, but many. :P00:32
brainwashbug 118426200:32
ubottubug 1184262 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "[logind] stuck in PrepareForSleep, causing network and other services to not resume" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118426200:32
brainwashUnit193: is only nm affected? the session (logind) is still fine?00:33
Unit193xscreensaver00:33
Unit193Only noticed nm.00:33
brainwashthat bug report is strange anyway, I am the only one confirming that logind is the (indirect) cause00:34
brainwashand it does happen on two complete different machines, not often, maybe like 20% chance it will stop working properly after a resume00:36
Unit193I'd say more often for me.  Want me to try and check to see if it's still "sleeping"?00:38
brainwashchecking the gdbus object?00:38
Unit193Yep.00:38
brainwashsure00:38
brainwashhowever, if this is the case, you won't be able to suspend again, or hibernate, or restart,..00:40
brainwashand nobody confirmed this yet00:40
brainwashbut it would explain, why nm is stuck in sleep state00:41
brainwashbecause logind is too00:41
brainwash"PreparingForSleep = true"00:45
brainwashI'll try to restart logind00:46
brainwashyeah, works00:49
brainwash"PreparingForSleep = false"00:49
Unit193brainwash: No, when this happens all I need to do is restart nm, I have no issues sleeping again, or at  least the computer doesn't.00:53
brainwashok00:53
brainwashso it will remain a mystery00:54
Unit193Menu says Network is disabled or somesuch, I'll have to see if I can wake it with nmcli.00:55
brainwashright, nm is stuck in sleep mode00:55
brainwashnmcli should work to wake it up00:56
Unit193Yep, should.00:56
brainwashso far nobody has provided any useful information or hints00:57
Unit193Heh, nor can I. :D00:58
brainwashexpect me, but nobody confirmed by observations, and you cannot either00:58
Unit193Nope, I faaaail. :P00:58
brainwashwell, did you actually check the value of PreparingForSleep?00:59
brainwashor weren't you able yet00:59
Unit193Not able yet.01:00
brainwashhopefully it can be resolved soon, I'm getting kinda bored of this little annoyance :)01:03
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slickymastermorning all08:47
astraljavaCan anyone confirm the behaviour of Xfce4 Power Manager, in which it suspends a laptop when closing the lid, even when the setting tells it to just lock the screen?09:09
brainwashastraljava: bug 122202110:46
ubottubug 1222021 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Laptop sleeps when lid is closed, regardless of Power Manager Settings." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122202110:46
brainwashlooks like there is someone affected by the overlay scrollbar issue -> http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=837011:21
brainwashbut I don't feel like creating s forum account there11:22
brainwashbug 123901411:22
ubottubug 1239014 in xfce4-settings (Ubuntu) "xfsettingsd unable to daemonize properly when overlay scrollbars are activated" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123901411:22
brainwashoh, nevermind.. I already created an account some time ago11:29
brainwashochosi: check this http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=691911:29
olbihi guys12:31
olbihttp://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/xubuntu-1310-sound-indicator-fix.html12:31
olbithey write about fix :D12:32
brainwashnow we need a fix for the bluetooth indicator, the printer applet, the message indicator also, and so on :P13:17
ochosibrainwash: i'm currently without internet mostly, will be until the mid/end of the week, so be patient and repeat your questions a bit later ;)13:32
brainwashochosi: don't worry, my messages aren't _that_ important anyway :)14:07
ochosibrainwash: sure, but be sure to collect them somewhere14:09
olbithis isn't good when we have so many bugs in indicator :P14:21
olbiwe should w8 with release :)14:21
slickymasterafternoon all14:24
ali1234brainwash: the bluetooth indicator is a different bug - it is broken in unity too16:32
ali1234the others don't exist in gtk216:32
brainwashali1234: right, so the bluetooth one is even broken in unity, well, haven't seen a single bug report about that yet17:07
ali1234because nobody uses blueman with unity17:09
ali1234the bug report is bug 120388817:09
ubottubug 1203888 in libappindicator (Ubuntu) "appindicator ignores menu entries after having sent the menu to the indicator" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120388817:09
brainwashok, guess I'll bookmark that one too17:16
ali1234   51.7GiB [##########]  startxfce4.log17:32
ali1234ok, i don't like this17:32
Unit193Erm, that's not good.17:33
brainwashhow is that possible?17:34
ali1234a bug17:34
ali1234not a bug in ubuntu though17:34
brainwashsomething flooding the log with messages?17:34
ali1234yes17:34
ali1234i just deleted it and it is up to 13M again already17:35
brainwashit's eating your hard drive :)17:35
Unit193ln -s to /dev/null17:37
Unit193:P17:37
ali1234fixed it now17:37
brainwashis apport broken? since quite some time I am not able to upload reports23:02

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