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aboudreaultlooks like we can't setup LVM via the desktop install :/01:27
aboudreaulthmm, wrong. but not in Manual. will check the other menu01:28
aboudreaultdamn, we can only select Guided LVM01:29
LeeJunFanaboudreault: Ah. I wonder if that's why encrypted wouldn't work also.01:39
LeeJunFanaboudreault: maybe not in manual.01:39
Bechillmuon has got to be about the slowest thing ever01:39
LeeJunFanI never use it. apt-get and apt-cache are all I ever use.01:40
BechillUsually the same for me, but I thought I'd try it01:41
LeeJunFanI actually tried to use it today in an effort to see on my screen what someone else saw on theirs, to help them out and as soon as I tried to click a ppa source it crashed. lol01:41
Bechillit crashed the first 3 launches for me, directly after starting to type in the search bar01:42
ninerAnyone around with an understanding of grub issues?   A coworker's dualboot laptop is hosed, and I'm at a loss.01:43
LeeJunFanniner: possibly. Elaborate on "hosed".01:44
ninerLeeJunFan:    Background is here: http://marissa-rae.tumblr.com/post/64732292193/kubuntu-help     TL:DR She was updating to 13, grub problems--- add live CD and now she's in an odd place.01:45
ninerI do mostly FreeBSD/Solaris, so I'm not familiar with this sort of thing.01:47
LeeJunFanniner: The grub chainloader is kind of a failsafe option for the upgrade path from grub1 to grub2. Instead of replacing grub with grub2 it installs grub2 and allows grub1 to chainload grub2, so she can make sure grub2 works before removing grub.01:49
ninerSo is there a relevant part of the FM that's relevant, so that I may RTFM further?01:50
LeeJunFanPersonally, I'd just remove grub and work with grub2. This is probably also why she doesn't get the windows option or menu to display. grub2-update uses different config file syntax.01:50
ninerEven my friend @ Canonical was all "Wow, that's fucked."01:50
IdleOne!language01:51
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.01:51
LeeJunFanIf chainloading works, I'd just remove grub then update-grub2 then grub-install /dev/sda01:51
LeeJunFanI'm confused that her machine would have grub1 on it in the first place. That's pretty old.01:53
LeeJunFanhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub201:53
ninerAgain, I dunno.01:53
ninerI deal with Centos/RHEL at work, FreeBSD/Solaris at home--- I do have an XUbuntu install, tried to break it, but I'm not dual booting so I couldn't replicate.01:54
ninerThanks for the suggestion/explanation.01:54
aboudreaultLeeJunFan, if I want LVM, I have no choice to select guided, which put all the disk size on / :(01:54
LeeJunFanYeah, that sucks. If you want a GUI way to do it you're going to have to boot the live desktop, install KVPM and use that I guess. I don't know if that does encryption on top of that though.01:55
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LeeJunFanaboudreault: I didn't use lvm this time because it's redundant to the features available in btrfs, which has its own problems too.01:56
LeeJunFanaboudreault: you can always command-line it, but it's a bit tedious to command line lvm groups/volumes.01:57
aboudreaultbig regression in my opinion. I'll have to install everything guided with lvm with a disabled home encryption, then shrink and remake my partition of lvm, modify all the mounting points and setup my home encryption manually01:57
aboudreaultI know how to do it... I'm just surprised that alternate install is no more available. It was so perfect and straightforward01:58
aboudreaultLeeJunFan, anyway, thanks for your time.01:58
LeeJunFanaboudreault: I just skipped /home during setup on mine. After install was done I created the luks volume, setup crypttab and fstab, then moved my $HOME data to the encrypted volume.01:58
aboudreaultyeah01:59
aboudreaultI wonder if I could disable easily my current home encryption?01:59
LeeJunFanaboudreault: you can't disable it, but you should be able to tell the installer to ignore it.02:00
aboudreaultYes02:00
LeeJunFanJust don't mark it for use, don't give it a mountpoint - and make sure it's not set to F for format before you hit next.02:01
aboudreaultwill check this tomorrow. gtg. thanks02:01
LeeJunFanaboudreault: later. Good luck.02:01
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JMichaelXwow, i just discovered that flash videos are barely playable on one of my machines, after the upgrade to saucy02:16
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excognachi all. why sudo shutdown +n (n>120) bugs always in kubuntu 12.04 kde 4.11?08:27
excognacdoes it supposed to be kdesudo shutdown +n?08:27
goodtimeexcognac: i just reboot  as root , that always seems to work for mee08:30
goodtimeme*08:30
excognacgoodtime: yeah, my case is about going to sleep. in the dawn there is always a bug message I cba to care about, so I rudely press th power button08:31
goodtimehmmm sounds like theres a real problem then08:32
goodtimei dont think i have a answer then , sorry man ...08:32
eagles0513875hey guys is there anythign special i need to do to get dual output working over hdmi08:33
eagles0513875im on 13.1008:33
goodtimetry going to settings and in your display there should be the setting for it08:34
goodtimeeagles0513875:08:34
eagles0513875goodtime: there isnt08:34
eagles0513875goodtime: xrandr isnt picking up the monitor even08:35
goodtimehmmm08:35
goodtimethen im going to try to hook up another monitor i have and ill let you know how i did it eagles051387508:35
valorieeagles0513875: alt+f2 Kscreen08:36
valoriedoes that show you your correct configuration?08:36
eagles0513875vadviktor: i have it up in system settings and its not even showing a 2nd monitor08:36
goodtimeive noticed that also eagles051387508:36
eagles0513875meant valorie08:37
goodtimei might send a blog to kde08:37
goodtimeyes im going to08:37
eagles0513875goodtime: http://askubuntu.com/questions/3056/how-do-i-use-a-second-hdmi-connected-monitor08:37
eagles0513875tried that even xrandr didnt pickup the monitor08:37
eagles0513875i wonder if i switch to vga as the monitor supports vga as well08:38
eagles0513875brb08:38
goodtimekk08:38
eagles0513875going to check the bios really quickly08:38
goodtimegood idea08:39
eagles0513875goodtime: ok changed a setting in the bios to auto detect, the output08:47
eagles0513875goodtime: also tested with vga instead of hdmi and still same issue08:47
goodtimeahhh good work08:47
eagles0513875goodtime: are you on an intel integrated graphics chipset08:47
goodtimeno i have a 32bit AMD 6408:47
eagles0513875goodtime: graphics im saying08:47
eagles051387500:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)  that is my graphics controller08:47
goodtimeSysinfo for 'goodtime': Linux 3.2.0-55-generic-pae running KDE Development Platform 4.8.5 (4.8.5), CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core TK-53 at 800 MHz (1607 bogomips), HD: 201/300GB, RAM: 2315/2454MB, 147 proc's, 1.23h up08:47
eagles0513875and graaphics08:48
goodtimehmm good question idk08:48
goodtimelol08:48
goodtimesomeone gave me this laptop for free so ive never realy looked into it yet08:49
eagles0513875goodtime: lspci should show you08:49
goodtimeim saveing up for a good desktop08:49
goodtimeoh ok08:49
eagles0513875i find this interesting for my audio device 00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio Controller (rev 06)08:50
eagles0513875a xeon proc lol for audio08:50
goodtime00:03.0 PCI bridge: NVIDIA Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1)08:51
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eagles0513875hey jalcine_08:51
goodtime00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation C51 [GeForce Go 6150] (rev a2)08:51
eagles0513875ahh yes i had a go 6150 in an old hp laptop08:52
goodtimeso these graphics arnt too bad i guess for a old lappy08:52
eagles0513875no08:52
goodtimeyeah this 12.04 beta seems to have alot of crash issues with no real reasons for it at all08:54
goodtimei seem to reboot to fix it lol08:54
goodtimealot08:54
goodtimeim prob just going to install 13.1008:55
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goodtimei just like the fact that 12.04 have many years of support08:55
goodtimehas*08:55
eagles051387512.0408:56
goodtimeyes08:56
eagles0513875you sure you are still on the beta08:56
goodtime5 years of updates08:56
eagles0513875have you not updated the packages since its been released08:56
goodtimeuhh i thought i did08:56
goodtimehmmmm08:56
eagles0513875lol08:57
eagles0513875sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade08:57
goodtimeok08:57
eagles0513875you must have lots of updates lol08:58
eagles0513875valorie: do you have any other ideas or suggestions about dual screen out put08:59
goodtimeeagles0513875: everything is up yto date now i guess ill reboot and see if there are any changes now09:00
goodtimebrb09:00
valorieno, kscreen has been excellent09:01
eagles0513875i installed 13.04 then upgraded to 13.1009:01
valoriebut if you've gone through the xrandr man page09:01
valoriethat's pretty low level, right there09:01
eagles0513875ok09:02
Guest43576hi, I have already installed windows 7 on my 80 Gb HDD as on one partition that is 80Gb. Now can i boot from live kubuntu cd and resize the windows partition to 40Gb, make swap partition and a new ext4 partition, install kubuntu on it and still my windows partition data will remain as such with no harm done?09:20
Guest43576crose post for more views 609:20
goodtimeas long as you have grub installed and updated it will work Guest4357609:22
goodtimei actuly like windows 809:23
Guest43576goodtime,  if i resize the windows partition by ubuntu partition manager. will i loose data?09:23
goodtimeit seems better than OSX  anyways09:23
goodtimei dont think you will Guest4357609:23
goodtimebut if you will it should tell you that your going to lose data if it does09:24
goodtimeso you will have a fighting chance to abort09:24
Guest43576k09:25
Guest43576it didnt told me that.09:25
Guest43576in progress09:25
goodtimeok i think your good then09:25
Guest43576k09:25
Guest43576wish me luck09:25
goodtimegood luck Guest4357609:25
Guest43576is a  seperate swap partition better or swap-file better or compress swap in ram better?09:25
Guest43576goodtime,  thx09:26
goodtimeyw Guest4357609:27
Guest43576the partition moveing is very slow though.09:27
Guest43576very09:27
goodtimethat just meen its doing a good job09:28
goodtimeprob because your saveing everything so that takes awhile09:28
goodtimejust let her run09:29
EmeryGuest43576, The new kernels actually have memory compression09:30
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EmeryAlso look into Zram if you have a lower end machine :)09:31
eagles0513875Emery: i use zram compression on my android phone and it makes a world of difference09:31
EmeryIt's fantastic, we use it server side here, I didn't implement it personally but I've read into it09:32
goodtimei cant seem to install  Z ram hmmm09:33
goodtimezram*09:34
goodtimeZram* lol09:34
Emeryhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/302447/how-to-install-zram-on-ubuntu-13-0409:35
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yossarianukis chrome fixed for (k)Ubuntu 13.10 yet ?10:47
yossarianukanyone know?10:47
hateballyossarianuk: Fixed how?10:50
hateballI'm running Chromium, and it works like it ever did10:50
Emeryyossarianuk, I've noticed official chrome is broken also10:53
Emerytitles are missing on tabs10:53
yossarianukchrome is noty able to install (at least on 32bit on 13.10)10:53
yossarianukdep errors10:53
yossarianukfrom a new install10:53
Emeryoh I have it installed10:54
Emeryyossarianuk, are you using a 64bit machine ?10:54
yossarianukEmery: I do on my desktops - they are 13.04 at the min10:56
yossarianukI have a ubuntu 13.10 32bit netbook10:56
yossarianukChrome not able to install...10:56
Emeryyossarianuk, are you using the chrome repos11:06
lordievaderGood afternoon.11:18
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yossarianukEmery: just updated a kubuntu 64 bit system11:26
yossarianukchrome was fine on that11:26
BluesKajHowdy folks11:27
yossarianukyep - 32bt version of chrome is still broken on ubuntu 13.10......11:46
yossarianukdep errors with lib32gcc1 lib32stdc++6 libc3-i38611:47
jalcinehey Emery12:10
jalcinehey eagles051387512:10
jalcinesorry Emery :(12:11
Emeryhey12:12
Emerysorry?12:12
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ranceI upgraded to 13.10 yesterday and everthing looked flawless untill this morning.  I have some ssh scripts that login via keys that do not work anymore.14:03
lordievaderrance: What is the error?14:03
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rancedon't get an error, just 0 byte output14:03
lordievaderrance: What is the ssh command you are trying to do?14:05
ranceI use ksshaskpass to ask for my key passphrase when I login to the session.  the command I run ssh's to a remote box, greps a log file, and stores the results in a local text file.14:06
ranceworks fine from konsole14:06
lordievaderrance: Is the script run from a different user?14:07
lordievaderOr is the display variable not set?14:07
rancenope, runs from my personal crontab14:07
rancedisplay variable may not be set in cron, but I think the problem is my cron environment.14:08
ranceI have a cron prep script that does this "/usr/bin/keychain -q /home/rhall/.ssh/id_dsa >/dev/null && source /home/rhall/.keychain/rhall-sh >/dev/null14:09
ranceif I do that in konsole, my scripts no longer work.14:09
ranceso something has changed, but unsure what, worked yesterday14:09
lordievaderrance: Did you test it yesterday under 13.10? Or was that still 13.04?14:11
ranceIt was still 13.04 when it worked yesterday.  It runs at 7AM so when I got into the office today is when I saw that it did not work.14:11
ranceWhen I ran the commands manually from konsole, they worked like a charm.14:12
lordievaderrance: The script also worked if executed manually right?14:18
ranceThe script works when executed manually from konsole.  If I ssh to this box, then the script works manually but I have to type in my passphrase for the keys.  So the ssh session does not have the right environment variables to allow me to use the ksshaskpass results.14:20
ranceThats when I started using keyserver to prep my environment if I was in cron or loggin in via ssh14:21
geniiI wonder if it's this old bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-runtime/+bug/87419914:22
ubottuUbuntu bug 874199 in kde-runtime (Ubuntu) "ksshaskpass hangs forever when run from keychain during KDE login" [Undecided,Confirmed]14:22
lordievaderrance: Why not specify the keyfile with the -i flag in ssh? Or is it password protected?14:23
ranceits password protected14:24
rancethat was what keyserver was supposed to get around14:24
rancewell maybe.  I killed kwalletd per the notes in that writeup and will try the cron again.  It will run in a few minutes, and well see the results.14:27
hordhello!, plasma-desktop is  crashing constantly14:29
hordany ideas?14:29
BluesKajhord. which kubuntu?14:30
hordyes14:30
hord13.1014:30
hordthe last version14:30
hordand it is actualizated14:30
BluesKajok , have you updated and upgraded since the the install?14:30
hordyes14:31
hordmany times14:31
hordand today too14:31
BluesKajdo a dist-upgrade14:31
rancelordievader:  Nope, killing kwalletd had no effect14:32
lordievaderrance: And replacing ksshaskpass with ssh-add, is that an option?14:33
rancepossible I guess, and worth a try.14:34
lordievaderrance: Though ssh-add is purely cli, so that might throw problems.14:34
hordBluesKaj: after dist-upgrade i have to reload plasma-desktop ?14:35
BluesKajhord. a reboot should help14:36
hordok, I'll try, thank you14:37
ranceIt doesnt look like the same issue with kwalletd.  It looks like kwalletd does not lock on startup anymore as per the bug notes.14:40
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rancelordievader:  figured it out.15:21
lordievaderrance: How did you do it?15:23
ranceI knew cron has a limited execution environment so I spent time under 13.04 creating an environment and then running sub scripts.  The new 13.10 cron implementation doesnt allow this approach apparently.15:24
ranceI added a line to source the keychain files needed in the real comand vs. the cron environment prep command, and it appears to work15:24
lordievaderrance: Ok, nice work around ;)15:26
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synsolncahi all16:20
synsolncaCan someone explain me why doesn't grub2 see my windows?16:20
Asharethsynsolnca: win 8 ?16:21
Whiskey`Wonkauhg. google earth is really broken on 13.10. anyone know how to clean up the broekn depends??16:22
synsolncano16:22
synsolncaIt's windows 716:22
Ashareththen either you made a mistake when declaring the disk/partition it's on16:23
synsolncaI tried to add it manually but it show "Bootmgr is missing"16:23
Asharethor when declaring your windows install in grub16:23
synsolncaBut I'm sure it's ok16:23
Asharethgrub2 don't use the same way of numbering than grub 1 bt16:23
Ashareth+w16:23
synsolncaweel. /dev/sda1 is it (h0, msdos0)?16:24
synsolncawell*16:24
Asharethit's a bios or efi motherboard ?16:27
Asharethand disque in gpt or not ?16:27
synsolncambr16:27
synsolncamother has both16:28
synsolncabios and UEFI16:28
synsolncaNow it's bios16:28
synsolncaIt's in my grub.cfg: http://pastebin.kde.org/pcxiwfvgc16:29
synsolncadisk is /dev/sda116:29
luis_Córdoba16:31
genii!es16:32
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.16:32
FOADHi, just upgraded to 13.10.  Now my nvidia driver (nvidia-319_updates apparently) is "activated but not currently in use".  How do I activate it?16:43
FOADOr rather, put it into use?16:44
AsharethFOAD: use jockey for that16:45
Asharethbut honestly, check if it's really not in use16:45
FOADI think it isn't (lots of screen tearing).  How do I check it?16:46
Asharethmy system is telling me mine isn't "in use" for 2+ years... yet i've got the correct graphic acceleration and kernel modules loaded and used16:46
Asharethproving it's in use :p16:46
geniiFOAD: lsmod | grep nvidia16:46
FOADlsmod | grep nvidia16:46
FOADnvidia               9451814  4216:46
FOADdrm                   296739  2 nvidia16:46
FOADNo idea what that means.16:47
Ashareththat the nvidia modules are loaded :)16:47
Ashareth(the proprietary ones)16:47
FOADOkay.  Well, performance certainly seems a lot worse.16:47
Asharethso probably used if your xorg conf is properly done16:47
Asharethtry updating them maybe ?16:47
Asharethbut otherwise jockey allows you to check what is supposedly in use, and activate what you want16:48
FOADWhen I do "sudo update install nvidia-settings", it wants to install nvidia-settings-304 instead of -319.16:48
Ashareth(jockey-text from memory for the command line tool, there is a gui too in ubuntu, don't remember the name)16:48
FOADWhich seems weird to me.16:48
AsharethFOAD: depends on your graphic cards16:48
FOADI did use jockey, that gave me the ""activated but not currently  in use"16:49
Asharethit might be one whose support is discontinued in the recent drivers16:49
FOAD" text, and a button to DE-activate the driver.16:49
lordievaderAshareth: There is also jockey-kde (if it isn't broken...)16:49
FOADMy PC is 6 months old.16:49
FOADWith stuff that was brand new then.16:49
Ashareththen it's not that :p16:50
Asharethcheck on the nvidia website which version of the drivers supports your hardware to be sure, but it's probably not the problem16:50
FOADsudo jockey-text16:51
FOADERROR:root:Could not find any typelib for AppIndicator316:51
FOADAdditional Drivers16:51
FOADSearching for available drivers...16:51
FloodBotK1FOAD: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:51
FOADThat's it.16:51
FOADSure FloodBotK1.16:51
Asharethit's a bot, as his name states :p16:51
FOADI know.16:51
FOADWhat I don't know is what to do next.16:52
FOADlspci | grep nvidia  -- doesn't return anything either16:54
AsharethFOAD: try : glxinfo | grep direct16:59
Ashareth(to check if dri is in use)16:59
FOADAshareth: glxinfo isn't installed, in which package do I find it?17:01
Asharethmesa-progs17:01
Asharethfrom memory17:01
Asharethbut it should be installed as a dependency to nvidia-drivers if i recall well17:02
FOADHmeh.17:02
Asharethsorry been quite some time since i had to install a linux machine with an xorg server and drivers :p17:02
FOADThat's okay, I appreciate the help. :)17:02
Ashareththe last ones i did were remote controled servers, so no problem with drivers :p17:03
FOADHehe.17:03
FOADOkay, trying something, thanks so far. :)17:03
speconhello is there any solution for my ubuntu + apple wireless keyboard17:11
speconi cannot type an AT17:11
speconwich is very annoying17:11
specondidn't found anything yet on google17:11
specon@17:11
speconthis one here i need to use a copy paste tool to type this17:11
BluesKajspecon. check your input devices KB layout in system settings17:13
speconokay17:15
speconand another issue i have is when i'm into system preferences17:15
BluesKajand your hardware setting as well17:15
speconthen energy17:15
speconi cannot "dim" the screen17:15
speconnot good for my eyes lol17:15
BluesKajspecon. sorry dunno about laptop scrns17:17
speconits a mac osx17:17
speconnot a laptop :)17:17
dolomiteare you using kubuntu or osx, specon ?17:18
BluesKajheh , even worse17:18
speconi'm using ubuntu 13.1017:18
speconlatest one17:18
BluesKajthen it's not osx17:18
speconidd17:19
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systemclientI just upgraded from raring to saucy and now I cannot connect to any networks18:26
systemclientit seems that qdbus is broken with Qt 4 and Qt 518:27
systemclientnmcli is not able to do anything because of DBus error messages that say that the message is not relayed18:27
systemclienthow can I get networking back to work? I need an internet connection?18:28
BluesKajsystemclient. ethernet ?18:30
systemclientBluesKaj: Ethernet and Wireless18:30
systemclientI tried using nmcli, but it did not work because of DBus18:31
systemclientand the new tray icon does not show anything. I can make it show a checkbox to enable network, and it is not checked18:31
BluesKajsystemclient. sudo dhclient eth0 for ethernet . sudo dhclient wlan0 for wifi18:31
systemclientand it does not show any connections if I open the connections menu18:31
systemclientBluesKaj: I will try that in a minute18:32
Asharethonly if he is in dhcp and not fixed ip18:32
systemclientAshareth: I have DHCP18:32
systemclientAshareth: really plain home Wifi18:32
BluesKajAshareth. well assume it's dhcp18:32
Asharethmy home wifi and lana ren't on dhcp never were, probably never will be :D18:32
BluesKajAshareth. if he was static then he drop nm18:32
BluesKajcould drop18:33
systemclientyeah, my friend who uses Arch does not use nm18:33
systemclientbut I do not want to invest the time to set up my friends wifi to static, she would not like that, I guess :-)18:33
systemclientanyway, are the Qt 4 vs. Qt 5 problems normal?18:33
BluesKajI use nm for vpns , that's the only reason18:34
BluesKajdon't think qt has much tot do with your problem18:35
BluesKajstatic and wifi without nm is apita to setup , it can be done , but it's complicated18:35
systemclientokay, before I can do dhclient on wlan0, I need to connect to the network18:36
systemclientSo I tried:18:36
systemclientnmcli con up id "strange wifi SSID"18:37
Asharethprobably because i used debian and gentoo and arch quite some time, i don't use network manager most of the time, but directly the config files :p18:37
systemclientand I got errors fo DBus that properties did not exist18:37
Asharethhum strange.18:40
Asharethsorry don't see what the problem can be right now18:41
BluesKajsystemclient. sudo ifconfig wlan0 up18:41
systemclientBluesKaj: that did not change anything18:42
BluesKajsudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i essid18:43
systemclientBluesKaj: with `down`, I can turn off the wifi, but it still does not connect to anything18:43
systemclientBluesKaj: I do see my girlfriends Wifi network in there18:43
systemclientand the other ones that I see with my secondary laptop18:43
BluesKajok ,try to connect18:44
systemclientBluesKaj: same DBus error18:44
BluesKajsystemclient. try sudo dbus-launch network-manager18:45
BluesKajpastebin the  errors, if any18:47
systemclientBluesKaj: could not exec network-manager. No such fiile or directory18:48
BluesKajsystemclient. try sudo dbus-launch network-management18:49
Asharethat that point he should check if network-management is installed too18:49
Asharethand/or reinstall it18:49
systemclientnetwork-manager is installed19:04
BluesKajin the panel, add widgets , type network in search , double click on the NM , systemclient19:07
systemclientI already have that in the tray, and it does not show any connections19:10
BluesKajclick on it , open the little wrench on the right , then click on edit connections , systemclient ...have you tried that ?19:12
systemclientI have to go to bed now, thanks for your help. I asked it on askubuntu.com19:12
systemclientBluesKaj: that menu does not show any connections19:12
systemclientalthough I had several before the upgrade19:12
systemclientand nmcli does show them19:12
systemclientbtw, plasma-nm is installed as well19:14
LeeJunFanAre we sure your upgraded completed w/o missing stuffs? perhaps apt-get isntall kubuntu-desktop to make sure it's complete?19:14
systemclientLeeJunFan: how can I run it without an internet connection?19:15
LeeJunFansystemclient: lol. Well, it's not going to be able to download anything, but if it tries to, it'll tell us what's missing.19:15
systemclientLeeJunFan: it seems to be the newest version19:15
systemclientbut the following bugs me:19:17
systemclientwhen I call qdbus, it tells me that /usr/lib/x.../qt5/bin/qdbus does not exist19:18
systemclientthat should not happen, right?19:18
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LeeJunFanI don't have a qt5 dir in mine either, fresh install, works fine.19:19
systemclientwhat does which qdbus say?19:20
systemclientand if it is a link, where does it go?19:20
LeeJunFanlrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Oct 18 22:47 /usr/bin/qdbus -> qtchooser19:21
systemclientLeeJunFan: maybe I need to change that symlink?19:22
systemclienton Arch, it is the same19:22
systemclienton my machine, it goes to that qt5 folder, I think19:22
LeeJunFanah. Can't hurt to try I guess. you can always mv it to qdbus.old then make a new link. mv it back if that doesn't help. I would think it should exist though.19:23
systemclientit already is that way on my system as well19:23
systemclienthmm19:24
LeeJunFanwhat args are you launching qdbus with that cause that error?19:25
systemclientLeeJunFan: no args19:25
LeeJunFanoh. Strange.19:25
systemclienton my Ubuntu Unity machine, it works well19:26
systemclientmaybe the problem is that on the Kubuntu machine it is like the fourth Upgrade or so?19:26
LeeJunFansystemclient: On mine it simply says "qdbus: could not find a Qt installation of ''", while launching with no args19:26
LeeJunFansystemclient: number of upgrades shouldn't matter. It does end up mattering because it's another chance for things to go wrong during upgrade, but it really should still work. Can be a pain finding either something left behind or something missing though.19:28
systemclientLeeJunFan: so is there anything I can do except a reinstall?19:28
LeeJunFansystemclient: what if you try creating a new user and logging in as that user?19:28
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LeeJunFansystemclient: I've never seen a Linux issue that couldn't be fixed, it's just a matter of how stubborn you want to be figuring it out. ;)19:30
systemclienti will try user tomorrow19:32
LeeJunFansystemclient: okay, good luck.19:34
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sekisushaihi there, i would like to know in saucy how to put the plasmoid to get shortcuts for dolphin and firefox in such a way that the icon disappear when an instace is already launched19:59
sekisushaii don't know if i make it clear..19:59
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LeeJunFanaboudreault: turns out my issues with /home not being mounted on my btrfs on luks was my own fault. can't use uuid's on devmapper devices reliably in fstab.20:32
aboudreaultLeeJunFan, ha20:33
aboudreaultso you'll be available to enable en LVM setup in the installer ?20:34
aboudreault:D20:34
LeeJunFanaboudreault: Still sucks that the installer won't do stuff right.20:35
aboudreaultyeah20:35
LeeJunFanI'll be leaving for home in a few mins, but probably still be around.20:35
aboudreaultdoing the same thing here.20:35
terraeee20:45
terrahey20:46
friedrichhey is there a good lui irc client?20:47
BluesKajlui ?20:47
friedrichline user interface20:48
BluesKajcli , yes , irssi20:48
friedrichah sure20:48
Piciirssi and weechat are both popluar20:48
friedrichthx20:48
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stackyismhello21:58
stackyismI have a screen shot of a bug21:58
stackyismhttps://www.dropbox.com/s/4jubcc36lsip3dc/folder_icon_bug.png21:58
stackyismwhich occurs in my hp dv 6 laptop21:59
stackyismkubuntu 13.0421:59
stackyismthe folder icons on the left sometimes overlap.. Or sometimes the space is left just like that without the icon on the task manager21:59
stackyismis there any solution to this ?22:00
apbAnyone using everpad?  I installed it a few days ago, it found my cloud notes and everything was great.  Today I started it and all my notes/notebooks are gone.22:13
apbkubuntu 12.0422:13
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gsedejhi! I don't see network-manager in /etc/init.d/, nor it's in service22:21
gsedejis this ok?22:21
Unit193It's in /etc/init/22:22
gsedejwhat's the differnce? and why I can't restart nm with service call?22:23
gsedej(I am quite new to KDE, i remember restarting nm service crashed nm applet22:23
gsedejstarted working wired22:23
gsedejis this somhow connected?22:24
Unit193The command to restart it is  sudo service network-manager restart  or  sudo restart network-manager22:26
gsedejoh, this is new to me22:30
gsedejlet me try (might become offline)22:30
gsedejok, it looks like it works ok22:36
gsedejservice does not autocomplete when i type network-m...22:36
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