[00:16] <a_muva> every time I login, my phone display is at min. brightness. I have to go to settings->battery to change it. How to fix it? Or  should I file a bug?  Where?
[00:18] <popey> a_muva: https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-power/+filebug
[00:18] <popey> IMO
[00:35] <Elleo> does the ubuntu-sdk actually support cross-compiling for arm at the moment?
[00:37] <Elleo> all I can see is ways to build things natively
[00:37] <Elleo> it's possible my qtcreator setup is a bit iffy though (had to clear my user's config to get the ubuntu stuff working, due to left over nokia things)
[00:39] <Elleo> oh, I see, it expects to build on the device
[00:40] <Elleo> guess I'll have to flash my phone before I can go further
[06:18] <Mirv> Click 0.4.11 released for 12.04/12.10/13.04 via the PPA
[09:09] <nik90> popey: can we already start testing out trusty phone images?
[09:10] <nik90> I am running r101 atm
[09:13] <popey> nik90: yes, trusty-proposed has an image which i have on my device
[09:19] <nik90> popey: who is sil2100 in the landing spreadsheet?
[09:19] <popey> Łukasz Zemczak
[09:19] <nik90> popey: I see landing task 267 which is about EDS. Wanted to discuss with sil2100 about the landing comment
[09:19] <nik90> irc nick
[09:19] <nik90> ?
[09:19] <popey> that is his irc nick
[09:20] <popey> sil2100
[09:20] <nik90> ah okay
[09:20] <nik90> thnx
[11:20] <nerochiaro> zsombi: tmoenicke: is it a known issue that wen the OSK becomes visible (or the screen rotates while the OSK is visible) the TextArea that has focus will receive several onTextChanged events ?
[11:21] <zsombi> nerochiaro: wow... not heard of that till now
[11:21] <zsombi> nerochiaro: tmoenicke: seems that OSK gives 'em all then...
[11:22] <nerochiaro> zsombi: tmoenicke: i'm sending in a bug + test case, reported both against OSK and ubuntu-ui-toolkit. it's quite bad for notepad.
[11:31] <nerochiaro> zsombi: tmoenicke: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-keyboard/+bug/1243164 please confirm
[11:31] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1243164 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "TextArea generates onTextChanged events when OSK is displayed or screen is rotated" [Undecided,New]
[12:01] <tmoenicke> nerochiaro: no, didnt know about this
[12:01] <tmoenicke> nerochiaro: thanks
[12:02] <nerochiaro> tmoenicke: any chance you could test and confirm ?
[12:11] <tmoenicke> nerochiaro: i will check it
[12:27] <nerochiaro> zsombi: is there any way to know what height inside of a TextArea the cursor is ?
[12:28] <nerochiaro> zsombi: i'm trying to figure out a way to make sure that if we have a TextArea in a ListView item, when they cursor moves out of the screen we can scroll the list to keep it in view
[12:29] <zsombi> nerochiaro: huhh? scroll the list?
[12:31] <nerochiaro> zsombi: yeah. say for example in notepad when i type too much text into a note, it expands out of the screen. i want to be able to have the list scroll so that the user can keep typing without having to scroll the list manually
[12:32] <zsombi> I see... the cursor height is font.pixelSize + 3DP
[12:32] <nerochiaro> zsombi: yeah but i don't know where it is
[12:32] <nerochiaro> zsombi: how can i find out ?
[12:33] <zsombi> you mean where the cursor is?
[12:33] <nerochiaro> zsombi: how far away from the top of the TextArea it is
[12:33] <nerochiaro> zsombi: or whatever other way i can know if the user is typing into something he can no longer see, really
[12:36] <zsombi> nerochiaro cursorPosition gives you the position of the cursor within the text, but that's not good for you. positionToRectangle() gives you the QRect the cursor is in. you can use that
[12:36] <nerochiaro> zsombi: ok, let me have a look at that
[12:37] <nerochiaro> zsombi: also, is there a way to tell to a ListView to scroll to an item so that the bottom of the item is in view ? I know you can use ListView.Contain to say that you want as much as possible of the item into view, but it counts from the top
[12:38] <zsombi> nerochiaro: no, they don't have anything for that
[12:38] <nerochiaro> zsombi: so i should basically ask it to scroll with Contain and then add to the contentY the difference in height
[12:39] <zsombi> nerochiaro: yep, but be careful with the contentY (don't forget to use originY too!)
[12:40] <nerochiaro> zsombi: always su originY to whatver value i want to set contentY to ?
[12:40] <zsombi> yep
[12:40] <nerochiaro> ok
[12:50] <Elleo> is there no way to make a Click package depend on an ubuntu package?
[12:51] <Elleo> Ubuntu Touch seems to have PyQt5 packaged and in its repositories but it's not installed by default :/
[12:52] <Elleo> it'd seem silly to have to bundle all of PyQt5 into a click package when it's already available as a shared module
[12:53] <nerochiaro> Elleo: i think a main point of click packages is that they don't have dependencies
[12:53] <Elleo> that's really annoying :/
[12:54] <Elleo> to have the packages [4~so near, yet so far
[12:58] <Elleo> I'm guessing the permissions system around click packages would stop my application from calling apt-get itself?
[12:58] <nerochiaro> Elleo: i don't know but I have a feeling you're right
[12:58] <Elleo> or calling some dbus request to the package manager
[12:59] <Elleo> I guess I'll just have to make some hideous monster of a package that has all the PyQt5 libs bundled into :/
[12:59] <WebbyIT> Elleo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Specifications/ApplicationConfinement
[13:00] <Elleo> I noticed the Ubuntu QtCreator plugin's packaging page says that packaging is only available for QML applications; I assume that's just a limitation of the plugin at this point, not a fundemental problem creating more general click packages?
[13:00] <Elleo> WebbyIT: ah thanks, was having trouble googling for click permissions
[13:01] <Elleo> click isn't the most google friendly name ;)
[13:02] <WebbyIT> lol
[13:02] <Elleo> "An application install helper will be developed that provides a D-Bus API so that AppArmor can mediate access to it. The URI must specify a URL into the app store. When the user clicks on a link to install an app, the browser will give the application install helper the URI and it will launch the app installer so the user can install the app like normal. In this manner, the user then has a contextual prompt (the app installer). The applicatio
[13:04] <Elleo> alternatively who do I lobby to get PyQt5 installed as part of the base image? :P
[13:10] <popey> Elleo: I'd bring it up on the ubuntu-phone mailing list
[13:10] <Elleo> popey: okay, well do, thanks
[13:10] <Elleo> will*
[13:15] <WebbyIT> hei popey, I met at university puskin, he wants to start to collaborate. I gave him some instructions, can you address him? :)
[13:17] <WebbyIT> dpm, mhall119 ^ :)
[13:20] <mhall119> hi WebbyIT, hi Elleo
[13:22] <WebbyIT> hi mhall119 :) puskin is new here, shall you address him please?
[13:22] <puskin> hi :)
[13:23] <Elleo> mhall119: heya
[13:23] <mhall119> what can I do for you Elleo ?
[13:24] <Elleo> err, nothing? I think WebbyIT was trying to get your attention for puskin rather than me ;)
[13:25] <WebbyIT> right :)
[13:25] <mhall119> oh, sorry, hello puskin
[13:25]  * mhall119 hasn't had enough coffee this morning
[13:25] <puskin> ahah hello ;)
[13:26] <puskin> WebbyIT this morning told me about develop ubuntu touch & co.
[13:26] <mhall119> cool, are you interested in being a part of it?
[13:28] <puskin> sure! but i havn't enouch knowledge of javascript? i can learn it ;)
[13:28] <puskin> enough*
[13:43] <mhall119> yeah, javascript is easy to learn
[13:43] <ceruleancity> sup guys
[13:43] <mhall119> hi ceruleancity
[13:43] <ceruleancity> I came here to see if anyone had any info on ubuntu 13.10 and pangox libs
[13:44] <ceruleancity> I can't find anything in the release notes about it
[13:44] <ceruleancity> anybody still use pango in any of their apps?
[13:45] <puskin> ok so? for starting could i learn javascript?
[13:52] <ceruleancity> what are you trying to do puskin ?
[13:57] <puskin> i'm trying to help the develop of appclications in ubuntu touch ;)
[14:03] <mhall119> puskin: nice, have you tried following the online tutorial?
[14:05] <mhall119> puskin: http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/qml/overview/ has high-level information about QML and how it's used to make Ubuntu apps
[14:05] <mhall119> there are links on the left to a tutorial, API documentation, and some "How to" recipes in the cookbook
[14:07] <puskin> perfect ;) i'll look soon ;)
[14:51] <Elleo> got libspotify working on my nexus, now to see if I can port all of meespot :)
[15:37] <hero_biz> hi guys
[15:38] <hero_biz> i have a funny and strange problem.
[15:38] <hero_biz> i have initialized a pthread_mutex_t with this command:
[15:38] <hero_biz> pthread_mutex_init(&(ctx->time_mutex), NULL);
[15:39] <hero_biz> but all my application thread are locked at:
[15:39] <hero_biz> pthread_mutex_lock(&(manager->time_mutex)); // (manager==ctx)
[15:39] <hero_biz> without allowing any thread to enter...
[15:39] <hero_biz> any idea what is happeneing?
[15:48] <cesar_bo> Hello devs, I have successfully implement OAuth Authorization with Ubuntu One to use it with a web application, it works great! I can create volumes, get info, upload, etc
[15:48] <cesar_bo> But I can't share a folder using the web api. Anyone have an idea how to do this using OAuth?
[15:49] <cesar_bo> Until now I have no clues, I read about SyncDaemonTool, but it will need that I have a syncdaemon running for every authorization token I have. I post this question in askubuntu  http://askubuntu.com/questions/363841/how-to-share-a-folder-using-the-ubuntu-one-web-api
[15:50] <cesar_bo> I will really appreciate any solution for this, I'm really close to finish this
[15:52] <AskUbuntu> How to share a folder using the Ubuntu One Web API | http://askubuntu.com/q/363841
[18:14] <aquarius> If I run an app from the Ubuntu SDK IDE on my phone, can I see its console output or similar somehow?
[18:22] <popey> beuno: saucybacon no longer runs on device. i am seeing apport error in dmesg..
[18:23] <popey> [31092.501932] type=1400 audit(1382465912.130:154): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_replace" parent=26284 profile="unconfined" name="com.ubuntu.developer.gcollura.saucybacon_saucybacon_1.0.8" pid=26285 comm="apparmor_parser"
[18:23] <popey> beuno: i see some feedback from you to the developer, but it's not clear to me why it's broken.
[18:25] <sbeattie> popey: all that apparmor message is stating that the saucybacon apparmor profile has been loaded/replaced
[18:25] <popey> oh
[18:25] <popey> i dunno why it's not starting then
[18:25] <popey> i get a white screen and no useful logging
[18:25] <popey> shame, it's an awesome app
[18:26] <aquarius> popey, yeah, I mean, it won the competition. And I *like* recipes. I was hoping it'd be available :)
[18:26] <popey> yeah
[18:27] <popey> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ cat .xsession-errors
[18:27] <popey> init: application-click (com.ubuntu.developer.gcollura.saucybacon_saucybacon_1.0.8) main process (2512) terminated with status 255
[18:27] <popey> wat!
[18:28] <popey> /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/bin/qmlscene: invalid option -- 'I'
[18:28] <popey> that doesn't look good
[18:32]  * popey leaves a comment for the developer
[18:34]  * popey makes food
[19:12] <AskUbuntu> Porting a Unity Lens to Ubuntu 13.10 | http://askubuntu.com/q/363963
[19:21] <rickspencer3> o/
[19:21] <rickspencer3> is there a widget in Ubuntu Components that does that swipe to deliver motion?
[19:21] <rickspencer3> mhall119, seems liek the kind of thing you would know ;)
[19:24] <rickspencer3> is there a widget in Ubuntu Components that does that swipe to *delete* motion?
[19:32] <popey> rickspencer3: we do swipe delete in calculator, but I don't think there's a component for it
[19:32] <rickspencer3> dang
[19:36] <t1mp> rickspencer3: what are you looking for? something like this? http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-1.0/Ubuntu.Components.ListItems.Empty/#removable-prop
[19:36] <AskUbuntu> write once. Run everywhere? | http://askubuntu.com/q/363970
[19:37] <t1mp> rickspencer3: most, if not all, list items have a removable property that make it deletable by swiping it left/right
[19:37] <rickspencer3> t1mp, could be
[19:37] <rickspencer3> ah, so it's a property of the list!
[19:37] <t1mp> rickspencer3: no, of the individual list items
[19:37] <rickspencer3> oh
[19:37] <rickspencer3> me tries
[19:38] <rickspencer3> holy crap!
[19:38] <rickspencer3> that's awesome
[19:39] <t1mp> the example here seems to make sense :) http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-1.0/Ubuntu.Components.ListItems.Empty/#details
[19:47]  * mhall119 is glad to see the new API website links being used :)
[20:00] <t1mp> mhall119: :)
[20:01] <t1mp> mhall119: I think I see a bug here http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-1.0/Ubuntu.Components.ListItems.Empty/#swipingState-prop - no space after "read-only"
[20:11] <mhall119> t1mp: thanks, I can fix that with css
[20:38] <t1mp> mhall119: cool, thanks
[21:09] <danielbeck> hello. I would like to build a HTML5 application for ubuntu touch. QtCreator offers two project types: "HTML5 Touch UI" and "Cordova Ubuntu HTML5 Touch UI". Will both work on Ubuntu touch?
[22:03] <mhall119> ok, I'll ping him tomorrow then, thanks
[22:04] <mhall119> danielbeck: both will work, but if you want to access device sensors/camera/etc you want the Cordova template
[22:06] <danielbeck> ah, ok. Thanks mhall119.