[00:14] <xnox> pandeiro: webkit, no - you only get MTP access.
[00:14] <a_muva> every time I login, my phone display is at min. brightness. I have to go to settings->battery to change it. How to fix it? Or  should I file a bug?  Where?
[00:18] <nhaines> a_muva: my immediate advice is that you can use the Battery indicator menu to increase your brightness.  It's not a fix, but it's a *lot* faster than going through System Settings.
[01:06] <sthistle> hey there.. I follow all the steps for install adb, but "adb devices" shows no devices. I have the Nexus 4.
[01:06] <sthistle> dev mode enabled, usb debugging on..
[01:09] <pandeiro> xnox: thanks for the info; i really hope MTP experience for gnu/linux systems improves as a result ;)
[01:10] <nhaines> pandeiro: I was thrilled to death to see that it Just Works™ in 13.10.  :)
[01:13] <pandeiro> nhaines: ln -s /some/other/thing && rsync thing /media/nexus4/Internal\ Storage/
[01:14] <pandeiro> that's something i'd expect from the Just Works™ brand
[01:17] <sthistle> going to upgrade to 13.10.. might help me.. back later.
[01:23] <tanob> hey there, is there a way to have dual boot with Android and Ubuntu Touch ?
[01:29] <Ghost1227> evening all
[02:06] <AskUbuntu> Ubuntu touch flashing failed/taking to long. Black screen! Redeploy help! | http://askubuntu.com/q/363467
[02:22] <Ghost1227> Anyone around?
[02:28] <cjohnston> maybe
[02:35] <Ghost1227> lol
[02:36] <Ghost1227> quiet tonight...
[02:43] <sthistle> fixed! I upgraded to 13.10 on the desktop.. same problem. I tried another USB cable (one that came with the Nexus instead of another I had.. Voila. Works..
[02:50] <AskUbuntu> Ubuntu Phone Installation Error (Wait for recovery expired) | http://askubuntu.com/q/363480
[02:59] <crowell> trying to build on a new machine, syncing with the repo does this error
[02:59] <crowell> http://pastebin.com/0yk8AjUf
[03:01] <cjohnston> looks like you need the gpg key
[03:02] <crowell> where do I get this key from?
[03:02] <cjohnston> use gpg to download it
[03:04] <crowell> did something change recently in phablet-dev-bootstrap ? I didn't have to do this before
[03:05] <cjohnston> don't know
[03:08] <crowell> seems like this was an issue on android's side
[03:08] <crowell> which I assume has since been fixed but ubuntu's lagging?
[03:12] <Ghost1227> oooh
[03:12] <Ghost1227> i faced that yesterday
[03:12] <crowell> Ghost1227: did you get it fixed on your end?
[03:12] <Ghost1227> yea
[03:12] <Ghost1227> hang on
[03:13] <crowell> ok
[03:14] <Ghost1227> sudo su && http://commandatastorage.googleapis.com/git-repo-downloads/repo > /usr/bin/repo
[03:16] <crowell> http://commandatastorage.googleapis.com/git-repo-downloads/repo > /usr/bin/repo
[03:16] <crowell> uh... that 404s
[03:17] <Ghost1227> hang on
[03:17] <Ghost1227> http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/git-repo-downloads/repo
[03:18] <Ghost1227> works for me...
[03:18] <crowell> perfect, that worked now
[03:19] <Ghost1227> lol
[03:19] <crowell> thanks
[03:19] <crowell> so this one just has the new keys baked in?
[03:19] <Ghost1227> something with the one from ubuntu isn't right, not sure what
[03:19] <Ghost1227> don't remember who referred me to that copy either, but it worked for me!
[03:20] <Ghost1227> of course, i haven't gotten too much FARTHER than that...
[03:20] <Ghost1227> but I'll figure it out
[03:20] <crowell> I blew away all the progress I had on my m7spr port :/
[03:21] <Ghost1227> nice
[03:21] <crowell> hopefully I'll be up and where I was somewhat soon
[03:21] <Ghost1227> trying to figure out how to DO a port... goal is a d2vzw port
[03:22] <crowell> that's galaxys3?
[03:22] <Ghost1227> yes
[03:22] <Ghost1227> the verizon version
[03:23] <crowell> I think someone already has a build for that
[03:23] <Ghost1227> ancient... last updated in may and they've abandoned it
[03:23] <Ghost1227> doesn't work at all anymore
[03:23] <crowell> ah
[03:23] <crowell> the m7spr build is a lie, its actually for a samsung device
[03:23] <Ghost1227> barely worked back then :P
[03:23] <Ghost1227> lol
[03:24] <Ghost1227> a few years ago i might have been working on that... used to swear by HTC
[03:24] <Ghost1227> Last time I ported something (or did any android work for that matter) was for a first gen EVO
[03:24] <crowell> I just got my phone for free after rebate so I took it
[03:24] <crowell> before that I had a windows phone
[03:25] <Ghost1227> never had windows phone.. always been on android
[03:25] <crowell> they're actualy pretty nice
[03:25] <Ghost1227> just took a break from dev after i switched to verizon... they didn't have much worth developing for until the galaxy series came around
[03:26] <crowell> I've not done much phone stuff before. decided that porting ubuntu would be a nice crash course
[03:26] <Ghost1227> i'm jealous
[03:27] <crowell> of what? not doing phone stuff?
[03:27] <Ghost1227> I have a feeling that most of my issues come from past android and ongoing linux dev experience... i'm having a hard time condensing the two into a sane environment
[03:27] <Ghost1227> :P
[03:31] <crowell> I've only done very limited kernel dev stuff from classes
[03:32] <Ghost1227> used to be a core dev for arch linux
[03:33] <crowell> so can I yell at you about my divide by zero panic in my netbooks wifi driver?
[03:33] <crowell> :P
[03:33] <Ghost1227> what device
[03:33] <Ghost1227> and what distro
[03:34] <crowell> this was a while ago, but on arch with an acer aspire one 722
[03:34] <crowell> its been fixed since 3.11 in the proper driver
[03:35] <Ghost1227> broadcom 43xx series? Nope, that was an upstream problem.
[03:35] <crowell> yeah, it was that
[03:37] <Ghost1227> :P
[03:37] <crowell> i spend all my time at work in windows (work for ms) and most of my free time doing reverse engineering, figured puting something together for once would be fun
[03:38] <Ghost1227> you work for ms? i'm sorry ;)
[03:38] <crowell> maybe shouldn't have mentioned it here :P
[03:39] <crowell> we don't all hate everything but windows!
[03:40] <Ghost1227> never said ya did. it has its uses... just not many for me
[03:40] <Ghost1227> if adobe released a native port of creative studio it wouldn't have any...
[03:42] <crowell> if visual studio were cross platform...
[03:43] <Ghost1227> hopefully this doesn't start a flame war, but i never touch VS... I use vim for 99% of my dev, and sublime for whatever's left over
[03:44] <Ghost1227> of course, i don't do much dev for windows...
[03:45] <Ghost1227> plenty of linux and web though!
[03:46] <crowell> we have to use vistudio at work, but there's a nice vim plugin for it that I use
[03:46] <crowell> never liked sublime though
[03:47] <Ghost1227> didn't used to
[03:47] <Ghost1227> a good friend convinced me to give it a chance and it's become my go-to on windows
[03:53] <Ghost1227> stupid dev environments...
[04:09] <Ghost1227> if/when i get the actual d2vzw build sorted out, i'm also thinking of setting up a generic build server just for ubuntu touch ports
[05:40] <Joseph2> is it possible to flash ubuntu touch from windows? I am currently away from my ubuntu PC
[05:40] <Ghost1227> depends
[05:41] <Joseph2> I have the Nexus Tool kit if it helps. I think all I need is the ubuntu touch package
[05:43] <Ghost1227> some ports are setup to be flashable like any other rom... theoretically, those should be flashable from windows. i don't know which ones fall into that category though
[05:45] <Joseph2> okay, maybe I'll get it tomorrow
[06:13] <jessica_> Does Ubuntu Touch support WebGL?
[06:26] <tvoss> didrocks, updated: https://launchpad.net/process-cpp
[06:27] <didrocks> tvoss: ok, can you file a landing ask if you want it to be shipped in T?
[06:28] <didrocks> tvoss: you need as well to have the LP project setup as the other ones (team to maintain the project, trunk under a team name and so on)
[06:29] <tvoss> didrocks, ack
[06:39] <renku> hi all
[06:41] <renku> who did the install?
[07:18] <Firefox> Hi guys, looking for Ubuntu Touch for Samsung Galaxy Tab2 10.1 P5100 - but did not find it.
[07:23] <duflu> Firefox: There's nothing official, but it has been discussed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2165390
[07:27] <Firefox> Hi duflu, thanks a lot.
[07:28] <AskUbuntu> I cannot download the Ubuntu Touch SDK due to Hashsum mismatch | http://askubuntu.com/q/363576
[07:35] <Stskeeps> g w00t
[07:35] <Stskeeps> er, ignore me..
[07:39] <Ghost1227> lmao
[07:51] <Mirv> jessica_: a good question. I tried out WebGL example and it didn't work (complains about WebGL missing). however, I also checked that the browser engine in use has WebGL support compiled in, so it should certainly be possible to support WebGL in the future.
[07:58] <jessica_> Mirv: Thanks! Hopefully it will be supported next year. Is there any HTML5 game available on the Ubuntu Touch? How is the performance?
[08:03] <Mirv> jessica_: I don't know much about apps or which of them that are available are HTML5 instead of QML. popey or dpm might have experience on those, either via a Cordova based app or other kind of HTML5 app.
[08:04] <dpm> jessica_, Mirv, there is e.g. http://phoboslab.org/xtype/ available. The performance is pretty good already
[08:05] <tvoss> Saviq, can you give duflu a list of commands to start and stop unity8 from an adb shell?
[08:06] <duflu> tvoss, Saviq: I've figured that much out. Trying to learn about the so load order
[08:06] <tvoss> duflu, why is that important to you?
[08:07] <duflu> tvoss: So I have confidence that I'm inserting my test build correctly and running the right build
[08:07] <tvoss> duflu, just install into the per-packaging install locations. If you are cross-building and don't have a pakcage, a simple script should do. Or am I missing something?
[08:09] <duflu> tvoss: Thanks for your help, but I can probably figure it out in a matter of minutes
[08:09] <tvoss> duflu, okay, please don't get stuck and just ask saviq for help for unity8 internals
[08:10] <_rsc`> hi
[08:12] <jessica_> dpm: Thanks for the link!
[08:12] <popey> ogra_: Can you try installing one of your own apps on your device from the store, (i.e. not by pushing the click package over the cable)? I get errors installing my own apps, but other peoples apps work fine.
[08:14] <ogra_> popey, i wrote and tested all of them locally on the mako ... and then tested them from the store on the maguro as they rolled in
[08:14] <popey> hm
[08:15] <ogra_> as soon as they show up in the shop you can uninstall the locally installed packages through the gui (doesnt work if they arent in the shop)
[08:15] <ogra_> thats what i did on the mako then
[08:17] <popey> ogra_: mine is inconsistent
[08:17] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/phablet/device-2013-10-22-091738.png
[08:18] <popey> i get that sometimes when installing my own apps
[08:18] <ogra_> popey, thats what i get for the BBC app
[08:18] <ogra_> did you add any restrictions when submitting them ?
[08:18] <popey> huh
[08:18] <ogra_> i.e. by country
[08:18]  * popey checks
[08:19] <popey> yes
[08:19] <popey> UK only
[08:19] <popey> but I am in the UK!
[08:19] <ogra_> (dunno what else you can restrict ... shoesize .. age ... )
[08:19] <ogra_> probably thats buggy :)
[08:19] <popey> bah
[08:19] <tsdgeos> zsombi: any idea about all these test errors ? https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-mediumtests-runner-maguro/2615/ ? don't seem related to my changes
[08:19] <ogra_> (not living in the UK but the function)
[08:19] <popey> yeah, agreed
[08:20] <tvoss> greyback, updated https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-voss/unity-mir/less-aggressive-scores/+merge/191440
[08:20] <popey> also "Submitted by Alan Pope on 2011-12-05 19:40 - 1 year, 10 months ago"
[08:20] <Paradox_> Has anyone tried loading a touch image on a Hisense Sero 7 Pro?
[08:20]  * popey pokes JamesTait before he can get a word out
[08:20] <JamesTait> Ow!
[08:20] <zsombi> tsdgeos: dohh... Jenkins again...
[08:21] <popey> JamesTait: seems to be a problem with the store in that it won't let me (or anyone else) install an app which is geo restricted to the UK... http://popey.com/~alan/phablet/device-2013-10-22-091738.png
[08:21] <JamesTait> o_O
[08:21] <Paradox_> yes? no?
[08:22] <zsombi> tsdgeos: let's try one more time
[08:22] <JamesTait> I think the georestriction may be a red herring, that hasn't rolled out on the server side yet.
[08:23] <JamesTait> I'd be interested to see the unity-scope-click log though.
[08:24] <JamesTait> And good morning all; happy CAPS LOCK DAY! :-D
[08:25] <davidcalle> cd Des
[08:25] <davidcalle> Hmm. That's not a terminal.
[08:37] <ogra_> popey, make the image writable and add LC_ALL=en_GB.UTF-8 for a test ;)
[08:38] <ogra_> popey, to /etc/environment
[08:38] <ogra_> i bet the click lens uses the locale (which we dont set properly) for getting the country info
[08:39] <JamesTait> So, I also tried to install the BBC News app and got the same error, and no obvious attempt in the UI to download it (i.e. no progress bar).
[08:40] <JamesTait> I was able to install imdb without any trouble.
[08:40] <JamesTait> I've checked, and the geoip stuff hasn't rolled out to click-updown prodution yet, so I'm going to dig in the server logs and see what I can find.
[08:43] <popey> thanks
[08:45] <JamesTait> Do we know where that error message is coming from ("The Ubuntu One credentials are invalid....")?
[08:46] <AskUbuntu> Ubuntu Touch stuck at google screen | http://askubuntu.com/q/363612
[08:54] <popey> JamesTait: i dont
[08:57] <JamesTait> popey, still digging. :)  I'm not sure if it's a client-side error string, or one that the server sent.  Could be in the download manager, doesn't appear to be in ubuntuone-credentials.
[09:02] <JamesTait> So, the error is in lp:unity-scope-click/src/download-manager.vala and happens when the server returns an HTTP 401.
[09:02] <JamesTait> So now over to the server side to understand which credentials it's expecting and why it thinks they're wrong for this specific app.
[09:05] <JamesTait> Correction, it happens when the server returns an HTTP 401 when the scope is trying to get the click token.
[09:20] <nik90> sil2100: ping (landing task 267)
[09:32] <Saviq> ogra_, hey, you know where do we drop setcap-unity8.conf from? it's in lxc-android-config, but I dunno where's the source
[09:34] <ogra_> Saviq, apt-get source ;)
[09:35] <Laney> d;,g
[09:35] <ogra_> there is no bzr branch ... you can get iot from UDD if you want thogh lp:ubuntu/lxc-android-config (iirc)
[09:35] <Laney> erm
[09:37] <Saviq> ogra_, ah indeed https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxc-android-config
[09:40] <tsdgeos> zsombi: any chance you guys can prioritize https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1211704 somewhen? I'm also going to need something similar soon
[09:45] <sil2100> nik90: hi! Let me take a look in a moment
[09:49] <nik90> sil2100: hi, sure .. pasting some info for now
[09:49] <nik90> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1236390
[09:49] <nik90> As confirmed by me, renato and ken, the EDS patch allows us to finally save, edit, enable/disable and delete alarms
[09:51] <nik90> In your landing comment, the part about alarm notifications not being shown, well that is not due to EDS, but another patch from indicator date-time which you can find at https://code.launchpad.net/~charlesk/indicator-datetime/lp-1233176/+merge/190009
[10:12] <davmor2> Morning all
[10:15] <tvoss> davmor2, good morning
[10:53] <JamesTait> popey, have you noticed that giffgaff suffers a similar fate to bbcnews?
[10:54] <popey> JamesTait: yup, also locked to UK
[10:54] <popey> going to change that, it makes less sense
[10:55] <popey> changed and reindexed
[10:56] <JamesTait> Right, let me try installing that then.
[10:56] <JamesTait> And it works.
[10:56] <popey> yup
[10:56] <popey> ditto
[10:57] <JamesTait> This is really odd, because as far as I can tell, geoip restrictions haven't rolled out anywhere.
[10:58] <JamesTait> OK, I'll keep digging.
[11:16] <JamesTait> popey, found a smoking gun.
[11:17] <popey> yay
[11:18] <JamesTait> popey, now I just need to figure out how we go about fixing it.  "Release all the things" sounds like a good approach. :)
[11:19] <JamesTait> popey, I don't think it's quite that simple, though.  ;)
[11:19] <ogra_> JamesTait, as i said above we dont set the locale correctly, i suspect that has some influence here
[11:19] <xnox> sergiusens: when i run maliit-server on amd64 desktop, i get:
[11:19] <ogra_> LC_ALL is unset ... which is why your currency and clock settings are still en_US for example
[11:19] <xnox> sergiusens: $ maliit-server
[11:19] <xnox> open /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libpinyin/data/pinyin_index.bin failed!
[11:19] <xnox> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[11:20] <xnox> sergiusens: but maliit used to work on normal desktop, back when Laney was packaging it.
[11:20] <xnox> sergiusens: i was considering to switch ubiquity to use that keyboard, but I guess I can't at the moment.
[11:22] <JamesTait> ogra_, could be related, and worth keeping in mind, but AFAIK it should be deriving the user's location from the IP address, and because that's not being sent through the entire stack, the back-end ACL check takes a conservtive approach and won't allow the download.
[11:23] <ogra_> ah
[11:23] <ogra_> so geoip issues then
[11:23] <JamesTait> ogra_, it basically looks like "the package has a whitelist (or blacklist), but I don't know where the user it, so I'll cover my backside and deny the download."
[11:24] <JamesTait> s/it/is
[11:25] <ogra_> yeah
[11:37] <karni> Hey guys, I'm trying to build Unity8 on my N4. This used to work, and builds fine, but the resulting unity8 deb seems broken. Any hints? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6282456/
[11:38] <karni> Effectively, can't install the built package. My rootfs is writable.
[11:41] <ogra_> karni, yep, known issue, due to an issue with OOM adjustments the unity8 binary was made writable in the ro image ...
[11:42] <ogra_> making the image rw wont change that which makes dpkg fall over
[11:42] <ogra_> (since it is a link and not a file)
[11:42] <karni> ogra_: Hrm. What can I do to fix this?
[11:42] <didrocks> karni: in short, it'll be fixed shortly (next image)
[11:42] <karni> oh. didrocks, daily? like, tomorrow?
[11:42] <didrocks> we hope for tomorrow evening (if tests pass ;))
[11:43] <karni> gotcha. thanks guys.
[11:43] <didrocks> not the -proposed image, the devel one
[11:43] <ogra_> we need to fix the current bug first :)
[11:43] <didrocks> ogra_: like, having a phone booting? Oh nice idea ;)
[11:43] <ogra_> if unity doesnt run we wont be able to release something :)
[11:43] <didrocks> ogra_: I'm sure we can cheat and makes the dashboard green :)
[11:44] <karni> k, I'll try again tomorrow/check with you guys :)
[11:50] <Saviq> ogra_, can I ask you to look at https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/ubuntu/trusty/lxc-android-config/drop-unity8-setcap/+merge/192131 please
[11:50] <Saviq> tvoss, you could ACK ↑, too
[11:55] <ogra_> Saviq, acked
[11:55] <Saviq> ogra_, thanks
[11:55] <ogra_> (and happy to merge and upload once tvoss nodded it off too)
[11:55] <tvoss> ogra_, go for it
[11:56] <ogra_> will do then
[11:58] <kapoeka> hello
[12:01] <ogra_> Saviq, uploaded
[12:03] <Saviq> asac, didrocks ↑ we need unity-mir released, then
[12:03] <didrocks> Saviq: well, we are trying to get first a bootable touch image
[12:04] <didrocks> not sure why lxc-android-config was uploaded until we get back on shape
[12:04] <Saviq> ogra_, ↑
[12:05] <ogra_> didrocks, it just drops a file the next unity8 build wont use anyway
[12:05] <didrocks> but current one is using it, right?
[12:05] <didrocks> and we aren't sure we will rebuild without the next unity8
[12:05] <Saviq> didrocks, that's ok
[12:06] <Saviq> didrocks, we'll lose the ability to set OOM scores and that's it
[12:06] <didrocks> Saviq: won't crash anything?
[12:06] <Saviq> didrocks, no
[12:06] <Saviq> didrocks, you can just drop the file in your phone right now - reboot and stuff will be working, AFAICS
[12:06]  * Saviq tries
[12:06] <didrocks> ogra_: I would have prefer that we coordinate all the landing ask in one shot, having settled that down in the morning meeting
[12:06] <ogra_> didrocks, well i just folloed asacs mail
[12:07] <asac> ogra_:     - if you are uploading a change that is connected to landings in
[12:07] <asac> other components, we recommend to use a Landing Ask so we can
[12:07] <asac> coordinate a flawless landing for you
[12:07] <ogra_> asac, i uploaded a change that doesnt affect anything
[12:08] <ogra_> oom scheduling is broken as it is .. the next unity build will fix it, my upload just drops an obsolete file here
[12:08] <asac> ogra_: ok, under these rules its probably ok ... howver, remember your past cases of assessing impact on the test before uploads :)
[12:08] <asac> hehe
[12:09] <ogra_> (if i had known i'd waste 30min on discussing the change i would have added it to the landing asks)
[12:10] <asac> lol
[12:14] <asac> xnox: what happened with boost upload breaking touch?
[12:14] <asac> do you understand whats going on yet?
[12:15] <xnox> asac: trusty is in the middle of boost transition from boost1.53 -> boost1.54, which involves 374 packages.
[12:15] <asac> xnox: how do you coordinate those transitions?
[12:17] <xnox> asac: same way all transitions are done, you stage them in proposed, and britney migrates them when ready. The problem here though, is that potentially boost template leaks ABI change, without linking to a package library. In those cases packages should either not re-expose boost symbols, or declare explicit dependencies on versioned boost library, such that such transition can be tracked.
[12:17] <xnox> asac: also see transition tracker http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/boost1.54.html
[12:18] <xnox> asac: everything in main has transitioned at top priority
[12:20] <xnox> asac: i believe didrocks triggered rebuilding mir r-deps to catch silent ABI break, to see if that is the problem.
[12:20] <asac> xnox: did you include touch in testing before uploading?
[12:21] <xnox> asac: there is no API breaks, and it's a change we inherit from autosync in trusty.
[12:21] <xnox> there is abi transition however.
[12:22] <asac> xnox: so you didnt test?
[12:22] <xnox> asac: I did rebuild test, before uploading of most things & run test-suites.
[12:24] <asac> xnox: can you focus on resurrecing this? seems didrocks doesnt have much luck with just rebuilding
[12:24] <asac> and in future, please test on touch things that go on touch image before pushing :)
[12:24] <xnox> asac: sure, i can work with didrocks on this.
[12:25] <didrocks> xnox: yeah, I tried rebuilding it, but even now, the session doesn't start (so, I can't even start unity8 as upstart user session is not available)
[12:25] <asac> please puhs hard. we want to open landings for all UE today and need a working image for that
[12:25] <asac> xnox: ^^ thanks!
[12:25] <asac> just take a phone and make it work (TM) :)
[13:09] <katgirl> Hello! What language in this channel?
[13:11] <ogra_> katgirl, english
[13:12] <katgirl> ogra_, thank you
[13:12] <ogra_> :)
[13:13] <katgirl> i need help to install ubuntu touch on nexus 7 3g
[13:14] <katgirl> i work with ubuntu 13.04 with xfce
[13:15] <katgirl> my first step: Setup my Desktop with "sudo apt-get install phablet-tools android-tools-adb android-tools-fastboot"
[13:15] <katgirl> step two: Unlock the Nexus 7
[13:16] <katgirl> step three: activate Develop from USB
[13:17] <katgirl> step four: "sudo phablet-flash ubuntu-system --no-backup -d grouper"
[13:17] <popey> you shouldn't need sudo
[13:17] <popey> but might find adb has no permissions
[13:17] <popey> so running adb under sudo is a workaround
[13:18] <katgirl> then it woks for self but on reboot i have only the "Google"-Logo
[13:18] <katgirl> popey, i run all under sudo
[13:19] <katgirl> and yesterday about both
[13:21] <aabish> hello sir can i install ubuntu in my galaxy y
[13:22] <kgunn> ricmm: would you mind approving the mir bump ? https://code.launchpad.net/~kgunn72/platform-api/bump-mir-dep16/+merge/191552
[13:22] <kgunn> we broke abi for sure
[13:23] <aabish> hello sir can i install ubuntu in my galaxy y
[13:24] <kgunn> aabish: you would need to look here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[13:24] <aabish> sir i m not getting
[13:28] <aabish> there is nothing mentioned about galaxy y...sir i m a big fan of ubuntu and i have also downloaded the img files for galaxy s I/II
[13:29] <kgunn> ChickenCutlass: is ricmm out ?
[13:30] <_rsc`> Is the alarm function implemented yet or just a placeholder? It doesn't work on my Nexus 4.
[13:30] <ChickenCutlass> ricmm: should be around soon
[13:30] <ChickenCutlass> kgunn: he should be around
[13:33] <aabish> there is nothing mentioned about galaxy y...sir i m a big fan of ubuntu and i have also downloaded the img files for galaxy s I/II
[13:40] <clouder> hello :)
[14:07] <ricmm> kgunn: hey
[14:07] <kgunn> ricmm: hey
[14:09] <ricmm> kgunn: hey, whats up?
[14:11] <kgunn> ricmm: no real biggie....just wanted your approval on the mir bump on platform-api so i can punch a new mir thru
[14:13] <ricmm> kgunn: +1
[14:17] <kgunn> ricmm: thanks man
[14:53] <sil2100> mpt: hello!
[15:04] <AskUbuntu> Ubuntu for Nokia Lumia 710 | http://askubuntu.com/q/363812
[15:28] <mfisch> pete-woods: ping
[15:28] <pete-woods-away> mfisch: hi
[15:28] <ogra_> you scared him
[15:28] <ogra_> heh
[15:28] <mfisch> pete-woods-away: we'd like to remove the hardcoded custom theme path for infographics and after looking at the code, I think we could just set USERMETRICS_COLOR_THEME_BASEDIR in one of our upstart jobs
[15:29] <mfisch> pete-woods-away: alternatively we can change your code to looking XDG_DATA_DIRS which we already set
[15:29] <kgunn> alesage: ping
[15:29] <pete-woods-away> mfisch: I'll update it to search XDG_DATA_DIRS, that seems like a more permanent fix
[15:29] <mfisch> pete-woods-away: okay, or I can do it and send a MP
[15:30] <pete-woods-away> mfisch: it's no problem, I've got another fix to land anyway
[15:30] <mfisch> pete-woods-away: okay, I'll working on changing our side. If you have a deb for me to test later let me know
[15:30] <pete-woods-away> mfisch: okay
[15:31] <popey> cjwatson / beuno do we have an easy solution currently for a developer who wants to submit a multi-architecture (armhf/amd64/x86) package to the store which contains binaries?
[15:34] <kgunn> alesage: just curious...going thru planning...and saw "add AP tests for indicators"...and i always heard your name assoc w/ indicator testing...is this done? or partly? or ?
[15:35] <alesage> kgunn, only a few tests exist at the moment but it's on the front burner
[15:35] <kgunn> alesage: got it
[15:35] <davmor2> alesage: no don't burn them ;)
[15:36]  * alesage dons his asbestos suit
[15:39]  * xnox realises i have /data, mounted twice and then remounted read-only.
[15:40] <AskUbuntu> trying to install 13.10 on Hipstreet Equinox2 tablet | http://askubuntu.com/q/363838
[15:41] <kgunn> ricmm: can you actually approve the mp https://code.launchpad.net/~kgunn72/platform-api/bump-mir-dep16/+merge/191552 ?
[15:41] <kgunn> :)
[15:41] <kgunn> pleeeease
[15:41] <kgunn> ricmm: otherwise i'll look like a jerk ta'ing
[15:52] <fvaldi> 3
[16:20] <cjwatson> popey: Not an easy one.  They can assemble it themselves if they can do all the builds.
[16:20] <cjwatson> popey: A prerequisite for improving this is sorting out such things as cross-building, the emulator, etc., which are going to be on this cycle's roadmap
[16:22] <popey> cjwatson: ok, so they can bundle 3 binaries inside the click package and spawn the right one based on the detected running arch?
[16:23] <cjwatson> popey: Sure, as I posted to the list a while back
[16:23] <popey> magic, thanks
[16:23]  * popey looks for the mail
[16:23] <cjwatson> popey: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-appstore-developers/msg00626.html
[16:27] <popey> thanks cjwatson
[16:54] <ashu11> brrrrrrrrrr
[16:55] <ashu11> when willl i be able to install ubuntu touch stable on my galaxy tab 2 p3100
[16:55] <thor_> hello
[16:55] <Shreyas> can i install ubantu on my java mobile ????\
[16:55] <Shreyas> plz HELP...!!
[16:55] <Shreyas> !
[16:55] <Shreyas> PLZ
[16:55] <thor_> does anybody know where I can find nexus S image?
[16:55] <ashu11> now what is this java mobile
[16:56] <Shreyas> i.e. on my samsung B7722 http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_b7722-3362.php
[16:57] <Shreyas> PLZ HELP..!
[16:57] <Shreyas> !!
[16:57] <ashu11> i do not personally think so
[16:59] <Shreyas> because that i.e. just the Shit...!! i want to install an os (any os)... PLZ HELP..!!!
[17:00] <Shreyas> anybody PLZ HELP....!!!!!!!!!
[17:00] <ashu11> sell it
[17:00] <ashu11> buy nexus
[17:01] <TdR91> yup
[17:01] <Shreyas> it is not possible for the this time forward..!!
[17:01] <TdR91> :)
[17:03] <ashu11> just for the fact i hvnt spent much time on irc, can someone just tell me the sex ratio here
[17:05] <cjohnston> ashu11: that doesn't sound like an appropriate topic for this channel
[17:07] <ashu11> yes i guess you are right, did someone appoint you to remind things like this.
[17:20] <asad2005> Is it yet possible to install whatsapp and runkeeper apps?
[17:46] <plars> sforshee: we're seeing some occasional powerd crashes in some of the runs now, not every time, but even on install where no tests are running
[17:48] <ricmm> plars: got more info on the crashes?
[17:48] <ricmm> a bug or something
[17:49] <plars> ricmm: not yet, just looking at the latest run in progress to see if there's anything interesting. I can get you the crash file though: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/trusty-touch-mako-smoke-install-and-boot/6/artifact/clientlogs/_usr_bin_powerd.0.crash/*view*/
[17:49] <daddy1988> hi guys, anyone tried to install ubuntu touch on a nexus with cyanogenmod and CWM recovery?
[17:53] <ricmm> plars: ok, ill look at it in a bit
[17:54] <ricmm> plars: if you can get reproducible steps even better
[17:55] <plars> ricmm: probably not, as even just doing the install seemed to trigger it, but I'll play around with it locally and see if I can find something
[18:02] <daddy1988> quit
[18:02] <daddy1988> ?
[18:21] <slangasek> ogra_: can you help me understand what tools are available for debugging yaffs filesystems?  I seem to have 'mkyaffs2image' and 'unyaffs' tools as part of the android build environment; unyaffs's --help is decidedly unhelpful
[18:53] <xnox> slangasek: none of real nexus devices 4.x use yaffs
[18:53] <xnox> =/
[18:54] <xnox> only older phones did.
[18:54] <xnox> everything seemed to have switched from yaffs -> ext, because yaffs was insane.
[18:59] <slangasek> xnox: I agree, but I hadn't heard the good news that things had switched off of it ;)
[18:59] <xnox> =)
[19:10] <mfisch> xnox: good news (re: yaffs)
[19:11] <xnox> mfisch: emulator is full of yaffs.
[19:11] <mfisch> the n7 used it too iirc
[19:14] <Fnsnt> hi
[19:16] <Fnsnt> can anyone tell me how i can install Whosthere on Ubuntu Touch 13.04?
[19:24] <rickspencer3> is there a widget in Ubuntu Components that does that swipe to *delete* motion?
[19:36] <AskUbuntu> write once. Run everywhere? | http://askubuntu.com/q/363970
[19:37] <slangasek> rsalveti, ogra_: is there somewhere I can point people for documentation about the 'repo' command if they aren't familiar with it?
[19:38] <rsalveti> slangasek: http://source.android.com/source/using-repo.html
[19:38] <slangasek> rsalveti: ta
[19:41] <jarope> hi all just wanted to ask your opinion on how long it will take for touch to work on the nexus 5 once its released?  Are the team expecting any major issues in porting it over to the new platform?  I realise its not been officially announced but I am wondering if there has been any discussion
[19:42] <jarope> or maybe tI should be asking - If I was in the market for a new phone what would be the best bet in the next say 6 months
[20:01] <slangasek> sergiusens: so do you know about 'phablet-dev-bootstrap' failing with gpg errors?
[20:04] <rsalveti> slangasek: which gpg errors?
[20:04] <rsalveti> slangasek: could be the error that happened with latest repo
[20:04] <slangasek> rsalveti: error: could not verify the tag 'v1.12.7'
[20:04] <slangasek> this has been happening for a while
[20:04] <sergiusens> slangasek, haven't done a bootstrap in awhile
[20:04] <rsalveti> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19126603/android-source-repo-gpg-public-key-not-found
[20:05] <rsalveti> happened with everyone that uses repo actually
[20:05] <rsalveti> are we shipping our repo as well? don't remember
[20:05] <sergiusens> rsalveti, since when?
[20:05] <sergiusens> rsalveti, yes we are
[20:05] <sergiusens> rsalveti, someone added it while I was on holidays I think
[20:05] <slangasek> sergiusens, rsalveti: bug #1243386 filed
[20:05] <rsalveti> sergiusens: since last month
[20:05] <sergiusens> rsalveti, I've been doing syncs just fine
[20:06] <slangasek> so yes, same bug as that stackoverflow question
[20:06] <rsalveti> sergiusens: maybe repo just updated itself there
[20:06] <rsalveti> sergiusens: in case you have it under a different path
[20:06] <sergiusens> rsalveti, which repo returns /usr/bin/repo
[20:06] <sergiusens> rsalveti, I'll update the repo tool
[20:07] <slangasek> sergiusens: thanks.  will you push that to the tools ppa for <= saucy?
[20:07] <rsalveti> sergiusens: great, thanks
[20:07] <sergiusens> slangasek, yeah, that's automatic
[20:07] <slangasek> ok
[20:24] <sergiusens> rsalveti, https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/phablet-tools/1243386/+merge/192234
[20:24] <sergiusens> rsalveti, also, can you check https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/phablet-tools/trunk/+activereviews ?
[20:26] <rsalveti> sergiusens: sure, just yours I guess
[20:26] <sergiusens> rsalveti, yeah, the ones ending with numbers (from bugs)
[20:28] <rsalveti> sure
[20:44] <AskUbuntu> Where are Tutorials | http://askubuntu.com/q/364015
[20:48] <slangasek> stgraber: I'm seeing strange behavior with goldfish in trusty, which I don't think I saw in earlier saucy builds, where the android container is fighting for control of the console.  Can you think of any reason for this behavior to have changed in the new lxc, or am I looking in the wrong place?
[20:49] <stgraber> slangasek: I can't think of any console related change between 1.0~alpha1+backports and 1.0~alpha2
[20:49] <slangasek> ok
[20:49] <slangasek> stgraber: where should I be looking to see where the console is set up?
[20:50] <stgraber> slangasek: lxc will attempt to divert /dev/console and /dev/ttyX to pts devices though I don't think that ever worked with Android
[20:50] <stgraber> slangasek: it's never been a problem so far since Android on the other devices doesn't try to access the console
[20:50] <slangasek> well, where does that diverting happen?
[20:51] <slangasek> it's possible that there's a difference here because unlike most devices goldfish actually *has* a console?
[20:51] <slangasek> (whereas most people are accessing their phones over adb, not the console)
[20:51] <stgraber> that'd be my guess, yes
[20:52] <stgraber> so we basically have two options, find a way to get android to play nice with the devices that LXC generates, which should then make lxc-console work with goldfish, or update the LXC config in lxc-android-config to prevent writes to the console
[20:54] <slangasek> stgraber: can you guide me how to do the latter?
[20:55] <slangasek> I really just need a quick fix so that I can get back to actually getting the outputs working that we care about (adbd, mir)
[20:55] <stgraber> slangasek: "lxc.cgroup.devices.deny = c 5:1 rwm" should block /dev/console
[20:55] <slangasek> stgraber: in /var/lib/lxc/android/config?
[20:55] <stgraber> the same with 4:* will block all ttyX devices
[20:55] <stgraber> yep
[20:56] <slangasek> thanks, will try that
[20:58] <slangasek> ogra: if you're around, can you please have a look at this? https://code.launchpad.net/~vorlon/ubuntu/trusty/lxc-android-config/goldfish-mir/+merge/192240
[20:58] <slangasek> rsalveti: and if ogra is not around, would you mind doing so? ;)
[21:00] <rsalveti> slangasek: did we ever tried mir on goldfish?
[21:01] <slangasek> rsalveti: we are currently trying
[21:01] <slangasek> mir and sf both currently fail
[21:01] <rsalveti> right, and is SF working at all?
[21:01] <slangasek> but the point is that having goldfish run SF would be useless to us anyway
[21:01] <rsalveti> in theory SF should work, right?
[21:01] <rsalveti> not at this point yet
[21:02] <rsalveti> we want to migrate to mir as soon we know it works somehow at least
[21:02] <slangasek> rsalveti: I'm not going to spend effort trying to get SF running on goldfish when Mir is what we care about
[21:02] <rsalveti> slangasek: well, it's usually a better idea to try SF first and Mir later, as we know SF should work in that scenario
[21:02] <rsalveti> same for hw bringup
[21:03] <slangasek> so currently, I have to touch the file every time I refresh the image
[21:03] <rsalveti> but fine by me if you're working to get that fixed :-)
[21:04] <rsalveti> slangasek: and did you check if the property is indeed 'generic'?
[21:04] <slangasek> yes
[21:05] <rsalveti> cool
[21:05] <slangasek> but I wasn't sure if that would be the value *only* for goldfish?
[21:05] <rsalveti> should be
[21:06] <slangasek> stgraber: doesn't work, blocking /dev/console stops the container from starting.  And I guess we can't divert this somewhere else instead (like a logfile) because android init will overwrite any redirect we attempt?
[21:07] <stgraber> slangasek: right, lxc tries the redirecting already, and that clearly doesn't work :)
[21:07] <stgraber> slangasek: maybe try with just "lxc.cgroup.devices.deny = c 5:1 w"
[21:08] <stgraber> that'll still let it map or read the device, just not write to it
[21:10] <rsalveti> slangasek: approved & merged & uploaded
[21:10] <slangasek> rsalveti: cheers
[21:19] <slangasek> stgraber: same problem (not surprising)
[21:19] <slangasek> maybe it's time to fix this properly in the android environment
[21:20] <stgraber> yeah, my guess is that just convincing Android not to mount another layer on top of /dev should be enough
[21:20] <stgraber> but that likely requires patching Android's init as I can't remember seeing this done in any of the plain text scripts
[21:20] <slangasek> yeah
[21:22] <slangasek> rsalveti: we talked before about patching android to not overmount /dev, and punted at the time; should we revisit?
[21:24] <slangasek> fixing this would let us capture android console output to a logfile across all devices, which would surely be good for debugging
[21:27] <rsalveti>     mount("tmpfs", "/dev", "tmpfs", MS_NOSUID, "mode=0755");
[21:27] <rsalveti>     mkdir("/dev/pts", 0755);
[21:27] <rsalveti>     mkdir("/dev/socket", 0755);
[21:27] <rsalveti>     mount("devpts", "/dev/pts", "devpts", 0, NULL);
[21:27] <rsalveti> part of init.c
[21:27] <rsalveti> slangasek: I believe it's fine to not overmount /dev
[21:28] <rsalveti> http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb?p=CyanogenMod/android_system_core.git;a=blob;f=init/init.c;h=576805ca3bb556932f6ffc5caeb7d9e52b7f1374;hb=refs/heads/phablet-saucy
[21:28] <slangasek> looks like defining NO_DEVFS_SETUP is supported, maybe that's what we want?
[21:29] <rsalveti> maybe
[21:29] <rsalveti> Android.mk:ifeq ($(BOARD_USE_NO_DEVFS_SETUP),true)
[21:31] <rsalveti> slangasek: are we mounting everything before the container is started?
[21:31] <slangasek> that's the only place that it appears in the code, so it looks safe to me
[21:32] <slangasek> rsalveti: let me double-check
[21:32] <rsalveti> just concerned about /dev/.booting
[21:32]  * slangasek nods
[21:34] <slangasek> stgraber: I guess /sys and /proc are handled as part of lxc's core setup, right?
[21:35] <stgraber> yep
[21:35] <slangasek> ok
[21:36] <slangasek> rsalveti: so yeah, it "should" work to just set BOARD_USE_NO_DEVFS_SETUP, wherever the right place for that is
[21:36] <rsalveti> guess under the board specific make file
[21:36] <rsalveti> I still believe we need to touch /dev/.booting
[21:37] <slangasek> that will get us /proc, sys, /dev/pts; /dev/socket is currently handled in /var/lib/lxc/android/pre-start.sh using silly tricks, we can simplify that once android is no longer overmounting
[21:37] <slangasek> and we can definitely add a touch $LXC_ROOTFS_PATH/dev/.booting in there
[21:38] <rsalveti> and about:
[21:38] <rsalveti> 925     open_devnull_stdio();
[21:38] <rsalveti> 926     klog_init();
[21:39] <slangasek> hmm
[21:40] <rsalveti> http://androidxref.com/4.2.2_r1/xref/system/core/libcutils/klog.c#35
[21:40] <slangasek> right, disabling klog_init() would impact how android init communicates with the kernel log
[21:40] <rsalveti> http://androidxref.com/4.2.2_r1/xref/system/core/init/util.c#372
[21:40] <gefaehrlin> Hello Ubuntu-Touchers, I'm a digital journalist, student and open source enthusiast. Now here's what I want to do. I want to get Ubuntu Phone working on my Motorola Atrix 4G. Plus I want to use it as a convertible with the dock, a USB- and HDMI-Station.
[21:41] <slangasek> rsalveti: oh, the open_devnull_stdio() is interesting, however, because it implies that android init is already not supposed to be talking to the console... so where do these messages come from? :)
[21:41] <gefaehrlin> Is my project possible? Where can I get instructions?
[21:41] <gefaehrlin> What could go wrong?
[21:41] <AmEv> Question: How close am I to finishing the download of phablet-dev-bootstrap? My current .git is at 2.8GB.
[21:42] <AmEv> @gefaehrlin: Does the Atrix have CM10.1?
[21:42] <rsalveti> AmEv: ~12/13  GB
[21:42] <slangasek> gefaehrlin: information about existing ports of Ubuntu Touch is found here; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices  there's an Atrix listed there, I don't know if that covers the 4G.
[21:42] <AmEv> Ouch...
[21:43] <slangasek> gefaehrlin: as for trying to use it with the dock, I imagine a lot of hacking would be needed there
[21:43] <gefaehrlin> It's running the Android 2.3 Gingerbread, no root.
[21:44] <rsalveti> slangasek: which messages?
[21:44] <AmEv> Only thing worse than a slow connection is a sporradic connection, where you have to pause then resume every download... *banghead*
[21:44] <slangasek> rsalveti: the ones I'm getting on /dev/ttyS2 in goldfish, that are coming from the android container taking over the console :)
[21:44] <rsalveti> slangasek: it uses klog for everything (init at least)
[21:44] <slangasek> rsalveti: so maybe the problem isn't init itself, but rather other services... like the shell
[21:44] <rsalveti> probably
[21:45] <AmEv> I'd *love* to do my own build, but I can't even leave my PC on overnight when it won't continuously download...
[21:45] <AmEv> For my tablet, of course.
[21:45] <AmEv> Anyone willing to help with a build for me?
[21:46] <rsalveti> slangasek: so we still want dev_null_stdio and klog_init, guess it's just better to have a patch to disable the rest by default
[21:46] <slangasek> rsalveti: ok, so just patch out those bits in init/init.c?
[21:46] <rsalveti> and then we can also leave /dev/.booting as well
[21:47] <rsalveti> slangasek: yup
[21:47] <gefaehrlin> Okay, I've read a few tutorials like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1119555 about getting the Docks work. Cannonical used Atrix devices to show the convertibility of Ubuntu for Phones.
[21:48] <popey> gefaehrlin: that wasnt ubuntu for phones
[21:48] <popey> gefaehrlin: that was ubuntu for android, a completely different product/project
[21:48] <AmEv> Also, one more quick question: Is it possible to use the modified kernel to get a Tegra 2 tablet to boot natively? I have never had a successful boot?
[21:48] <popey> We have never run Ubuntu for Phones on the Atrix internally as far as I know
[21:48] <gefaehrlin> a chroot? like the one that uses the android filesystem?
[21:49] <gefaehrlin> okay, what would you recommend for the atrix?
[21:49] <popey> gefaehrlin: we haven't yet enabled convergence in the Ubuntu for Phones project, that's on the cards for this cycle and beyond
[21:50] <AmEv> I know this isn't the ARM channel specifically, but I have never been able to boot neither Touch nor X.
[21:50] <popey> gefaehrlin: I'm unconvinced the Atrix 4G has the guts to run Ubuntu for Phones.
[21:50] <popey> gefaehrlin: the base is to get CM10 to run on it, if that runs then you're on the road to getting ubuntu for phones ported to the device
[21:51] <gefaehrlin> "Platform:	NVIDIA Tegra 2 CPU: 1 GHz dual-core Nvidia Tegra 2 GPU:	GeForce ULP RAM:	1GB" Atrix Specs
[21:51] <slangasek> rsalveti: so everything's using the flipped model these days, including all ports, right?  So we're not going to regress anything?
[21:51] <AmEv> Hmmm... CM10 works perfectly on my tablet, but CM10.1 is barely working...
[21:51] <rsalveti> slangasek: no, we only support the flipped model now
[21:51] <AmEv> It's the Toshiba Thrive. A Tegra 2.
[21:52] <rsalveti> slangasek: so feel free to create such a patch (and send me as well, so I can push & test it)
[21:52] <slangasek> rsalveti: cool, what's the right way to submit this patch to you?
[21:52] <nukleuz> Hi! Someone adviced me to update my «Ubuntu Phone», since it's laggy and pretty slow on my GNex Maguro/takju. Tried to update through System Settings » Update, but there aren't any updates available (says last update was 2000-01-01 00:49:45??). When Ubuntu Phone got official I reinstalled my phone with the option «ubuntu-system». Any tips what I could do to: 1) Update my devices, if there are newer
[21:52] <nukleuz> versions available? OTA's? How? 2) Get a more responding device?
[21:52] <slangasek> personal email?
[21:52] <rsalveti> slangasek: just email is fine
[21:52] <slangasek> ok
[21:53] <popey> nukleuz: phablet-flash ubuntu-system --channel saucy -d maguro
[21:53] <popey> nukleuz: that should get you up to date
[21:53] <AmEv> One dev got it working once. http://www.thriveforums.org/forum/pio_masaki-development/18090-wip-ubuntu-touch-thrive-development.html
[21:53] <rsalveti> slangasek: I wonder if console was already enabled by default in goldfish
[21:53] <AmEv> Albeit those pics are with wrong DPI settings....
[21:53] <rsalveti> or if something we enabled when we packaged the goldfish kernel
[21:54] <gefaehrlin> popeye: thanks a lot for your competent answers so far. what would you recommend for atrix users? stickin to android 2.3, getting cm mod and wait for ubuntu phones with convergence or getting ubuntu for android?
[21:54] <nukleuz> Popey: Ah, nice! But isn't the update function in the official fully functional?
[21:54] <slangasek> stgraber: do you know why /var/lib/lxc/android/pre-start.sh does a 'mkdir -p $LXC_ROOTFS_PATH/dev/pts', but doesn't mount anything there?  What behavior are we expecting in that dir?
[21:54] <popey> nukleuz: it is but i dont know where you're starting from
[21:55] <popey> nukleuz: "adb shell system-image-cli -i" will tell you what image version it is
[21:55] <rsalveti> slangasek: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6285533/
[21:55] <popey> gefaehrlin: i would not anticipate ubuntu for phones coming to atrix 4g
[21:55] <stgraber> slangasek: lxc will mount devpts on top of it but won't create the directory if it doesn't exist
[21:55] <slangasek> stgraber: ok
[21:56] <nukleuz> Popey: Haven't modified anything. Installed the OS a few days after it was publiced released (with the command: phablet-flash ubuntu-system --no-backup
[21:56] <popey> nukleuz: run that command I gave to see what version it is
[21:56] <nukleuz> Ok :)
[21:56] <gefaehrlin> popeye: the atrix is listed.
[21:57] <slangasek> rsalveti: hmm, and androidboot.console=ttyS2.  But that doesn't explain the shell, anyway
[21:57] <rsalveti> slangasek: but do we have a shell using the console in goldfish?
[21:58] <slangasek> rsalveti: yes, I definitely do :)
[21:58] <slangasek> I don't know where it's coming from... it's a bit difficult to debug since all I have is console
[21:58] <rsalveti> right
[21:58] <nukleuz> popey: What do this cmd actually do?
[21:59] <popey> nukleuz: tells us what version you're running
[21:59] <popey> nukleuz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6285562/
[22:00] <nukleuz> Hmmm. No, several things got downloaded, and booted the device into Bootloader, «CWM» and now flashing something?
[22:00] <rsalveti> slangasek: from init.rc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6285566/
[22:00] <slangasek> rsalveti: ack, so I could hack that out for good measure
[22:00] <AmEv> Hmmm.... Would it be possible to modify this somehow to boot X instead of the Touch interface?
[22:01] <nukleuz> Popey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6285568/
[22:01] <popey> nukleuz: thats good
[22:01] <popey> nukleuz: its flashing... wait
[22:02] <rsalveti> yeah
[22:02] <gefaehrlin> popeye: thank you for your answers
[22:02] <popey> gefaehrlin: no problemo
[22:02] <nukleuz> Popey: Ok. Which means my version was old?
[22:03] <popey> nukleuz: you're pasting the output of flashing ,not the output of system-image-cli
[22:04] <brunost> are the instructions to install ubuntu touch in the wiki for the fully released 13.10 or is it still just a half-complete preview?
[22:04] <nukleuz> I ran the cmd you gave me, that resulted in that output :P
[22:06] <popey> nukleuz: i gave two commands
[22:09] <nukleuz> Popey: Oh, sry. Didn't see the other one. Only ran « phablet-flash ubuntu-system --channel saucy -d maguro » which I now understand install the system again :P Will run the other one afterwards. Could the problem be that i left out the «--channel saucy -d maguro» part when I installed it last week? Strange it isn't mentioned on the Ubuntu Website?
[22:10] <popey> np ☻
[22:10] <slangasek> stgraber: oh, fyi, lxc-start: Error setting devices.deny to c 5:1 w for android
[22:10] <barry> slangasek: is lp: #1227874 still a problem for you?
[22:10] <slangasek> barry: I think at this point we should wontfix that
[22:11] <barry> slangasek: agreed!
[22:11] <barry> or maybe invalid
[22:12] <slangasek> it's a perfectly valid bug, that you have perfectly valid reasons for declining to spend time fixing now ;)
[22:12] <barry> won't fix then.  i do think it's related to the old format, which now is gone, baby, gone
[22:13] <nukleuz> Popey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6285644/
[22:13] <popey> sweet
[22:13] <popey> thats latest stable nukleuz
[22:13] <nukleuz> Output from the other cmd.
[22:13] <stgraber> slangasek: hmm, that's odd. I can't reproduce this with a direct write to /sys/fs/cgroup/devices here
[22:15] <nukleuz> Seems to be working now; Not any updates yet tho, but the date is now correct, except 2 hours diff. Seems to be a problem detecting the time from NTP server, or something. I'm i Norway.
[22:15] <stgraber> and the same line appears to work fine on my laptop
[22:16] <nukleuz> Popey: Still laggy. Someone said that I had to update to r101 (or something like that). Didn't understand that part, and didn't find any updates with that name either.
[22:18] <nukleuz> g2g. Thx for the help Popey.
[22:20] <popey> nukleuz: its in development
[22:20] <popey> nukleuz: expect it to be laggy now and then ☻
[22:20] <brunost> could anybody please tell me if the current release of ubuntu touch is "usable" for day-to-day usage or is it best suited for testing?
[22:22] <jholtom> brunost: testing and testing only
[22:29] <brunost> so I guess a stable release _should_ be due for 14.04 then?
[22:34] <fishscene> That's the general idea.
[22:35] <brunost> looking forward to that then, looks like a much more suited tablet OS for me than android
[22:36] <fishscene> It's much more suited for treating phones as they really are - computers. :)
[23:15] <dixeflatline> quick question.  beta2 for GSM (tmobile) doesnt connect web data.  do we still need to utilize the nmcli command to bring it up?
[23:33] <seshu> How can I disable the auto unsupported device check done by phablet-flash and push the image on to my custom android device.
[23:37] <popey> seshu: -d lets you choose device name
[23:39] <seshu> popey: Thanks!