[04:16] <rick_h_> no party like a west coast party...
[04:16] <greg-g> rick_h_: you're over here?
[04:17] <rick_h_> greg-g: yea, burlingame for the sprint week
[04:18] <greg-g> burlingame? wow
[04:18] <greg-g> odd choice
[04:18] <rick_h_> yea, kind of sucky one. Works out with the strike, close enough to not need BART
[04:18] <rick_h_> but man there's one strip you can get to walking
[04:18] <rick_h_> with 5 or 6 places to eat, and 10 nail salons
[04:18] <greg-g> :) yeah, no BART sucks
[04:18] <greg-g> haha
[04:19] <rick_h_> going to head over to the olark bbq tomorrow
[04:20] <rick_h_> looks like I can caltrain it up there
[04:20] <rick_h_> I'm not sure I could get used to an hour to go 15mi
[04:23] <greg-g> whoa, an hour? that sounds wrong
[04:24] <greg-g> no express trains?
[04:24] <greg-g> but still, it was only an hour-20 from MTV to SF
[04:24] <greg-g> on the 'local' train
[04:25] <rick_h_> well going off google maps I'm getting realy odd directions
[04:25] <rick_h_> to 76 S Park St, San Francisco, CA 94107
[04:25] <greg-g> huh
[04:25] <rick_h_> from 1333 Old Bayshore Hwy, Burlingame, CA 94010
[04:26] <rick_h_> like take the train down a bit, then back up?
[04:26]  * rick_h_ is confused
[04:26] <greg-g> what time of day?
[04:26] <rick_h_> well doing directions right now, around 6pm tomorrow
[04:26] <greg-g> that will change things a long
[04:27] <rick_h_> ah, /me found the 'change times' thing
[04:27] <rick_h_> hmm, are the busses going? I thought someone said they would not be
[04:27] <greg-g> haha, that bus taking you from your hotel to the train station does a stupid little loop there at the end
[04:27] <greg-g> nah, busses are fine, they're going
[04:27] <greg-g> just the BART
[04:28] <rick_h_> ah ok, well someone said something about some buses being part of "bay area transit"
[04:28] <rick_h_> but yea, if I can figure out how to do it, looks like an hour-ish to go 15mi to olark tomorrow night
[04:28] <rick_h_> gotta <3 it heh
[04:28] <greg-g> weird
[04:29] <greg-g> only a 20 minute train ride, at least
[04:29] <rick_h_> ah, yea. It's all about getting to the train.
[04:30] <rick_h_> wonder why I can't get on at the broadway caltrain station on the map
[04:32] <greg-g> trains must not stop there during rush hour ish
[04:32] <rick_h_> more burlingame suck-i-tude
[04:33] <greg-g> :)
[04:33] <greg-g> there's a good brazilian bbq place down there we went to once
[04:34] <greg-g> $30 all you can eat, dang good meat
[04:34] <rick_h_> hah, cool
[04:35] <rick_h_> actually, now that I look at the olark invite it's 4pm-7pm and with that hour I can't possibly get there until 7pm
[04:36] <rick_h_> bah, stupid work sprint. I want to travel and see stuff lol
[04:37] <greg-g> :)
[11:48] <cmaloney> Morning
[12:50] <brousch> rick_h_: Oh master of good syntax, which looks better to you? https://github.com/Kovak/buildozer/commit/7808c3b3cb4a99286c110f494a2f016d3cb78d88
[13:23] <cmaloney> brousch: Ugh
[13:25] <cmaloney> BTW: Since rick_h_ is off in the land of SFOz, that means CHC will need to go on without him
[13:27] <cmaloney> Do we still want to meet at the Starbucks on Woodward, or somewhere else?
[13:31] <cmaloney> I'm OK with sticking around there, as it does appear to have some benefits
[13:31] <cmaloney> not the least of which is that it's on Woodward. :)
[13:47] <rick_h_> party
[13:48] <rick_h_> brousch: line 404 has to go above because it's got a hidden 'else' at the end of it
[13:48] <rick_h_> that's non-obvious and should be moved out to a block of logic so that it's more clear.
[13:50] <brousch> I don't like inline ifs
[13:50] <rick_h_> brousch: they're not bad if the line doesn't wrap
[13:50] <rick_h_> but with the wrap, dense content here already, it's a recipe for a 'duh wtf' moment
[13:50] <brousch> Yeah,. very short ones
[13:50] <rick_h_> but things like name = request.get('name') else 'Anon'
[13:51] <rick_h_> are perfectly cool imo
[13:51] <brousch> He is replacing my longer version in the red with the inline version in green
[13:56] <brousch> Anyways, what are you doing in San Fran?
[13:56] <rick_h_> work sprint
[14:50] <cmaloney> I thought you were on Verizon? :)
[14:50] <rick_h_> cmaloney: :P
[14:50] <rick_h_> yep, sure am and getting lovely 4g coverage all night long!
[14:50] <cmaloney> heh
[14:58] <brousch> cmaloney: Ting is saving me about $120/mo (excluding phone purchase price), but the coverage is really poor
[14:59] <cmaloney> Yeah, I'm finding the coverage can be a bit wanting, especially inside certain buildings
[14:59] <cmaloney> but overall I'm pretty pleased.
[14:59] <cmaloney> I just wish Sprint would get their shit together in this area.
[14:59] <brousch> And here
[14:59] <cmaloney> You have 4G coverage. You're good. ;)
[15:00] <cmaloney> We don't even have that.
[15:01] <brousch> I have squat
[15:01] <brousch> Maybe if I go to the heart of downtown GR when it's not busy
[15:01] <widox> cmaloney: I thought the Starbucks was decent enough - other then going downtown RO I'm not sure of other options
[15:02] <cmaloney> widox: Yeah. The only other option that springs to mind is the Barnes and Noble on JOhn R.
[15:02] <cmaloney> The Biggby on John R is just too small
[15:52] <cmaloney> wiki - Hawaiian word for information graveyard.
[15:52] <greg-g> hey!
[15:52] <greg-g> (it's true)
[15:52] <greg-g> except in one notable exception
[15:52] <rick_h_> lol
[15:53] <cmaloney> I love Wikipedia. That's because it has a lot of caretakers
[15:53] <cmaloney> If our internal wiki had 1/10th of the care that any topic related to Star Wars has we'd be golden.
[15:53] <greg-g> totally, that's the thing, you need wiki gnomes
[15:53] <greg-g> wiki gardeners
[15:54] <cmaloney> I'm convinced that there are more characters dedicated to fictional universes than our own. ;)
[15:54] <cmaloney> But that's another topic for another time
[15:55] <greg-g> write what you know
[15:55] <cmaloney> True dat.
[15:56] <rick_h_> I prefer gnomes to gardeners
[15:57] <rick_h_> less chance of them hitting on my wife :P
[15:57] <brousch> rick_h_: You don't know many gnomes, do you
[15:57] <cmaloney> You might want to re-think that
[15:57] <cmaloney> http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/f439/ <- Hawt
[15:58] <brousch> I saw a zombie U-M football gnome at Meijer
[15:59] <cmaloney> https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-vh3uU1XgSIw/TdqwSyKbo4I/AAAAAAAABX4/yh39hccmYKo/w538-h720-no/Picture+249.jpg
[16:00] <brousch> That's gonna look good on your company's Internet log
[16:00] <cmaloney> Adn that's why I ssh tunnel. ;)
[16:14] <cmaloney> More for their sanity. ;)
[17:15] <cmaloney> Ah, it must be Apple release time
[17:15] <cmaloney> Internet has gone to crap.
[17:15] <brousch> All of the hipster douchebags just ran to the conference room?
[17:15] <cmaloney> No, I can't get ti images.google.com
[17:15] <cmaloney> or arstechnica
[17:16] <cmaloney> huh. Now I can
[17:18] <cmaloney> Ah well
[17:20] <jrwren> oh oh , can I upgrade yet?!?!?!
[17:22] <brousch> Yes you can! http://goo.gl/nduHS
[17:23] <cmaloney> har har
[17:24] <jrwren> free mavriks...i just died a happy heart attack
[17:35] <cmaloney> ?
[17:35] <cmaloney> For those of us who have no idea what you're talking about?
[17:36] <cmaloney> Ah, OS X update
[17:36] <brousch> They are taking Ubuntu names now?
[18:03] <greg-g> alright, seriously gnome, I'm going to leave you if you keep making dumb choices
[18:03] <greg-g> 1) removing alt-click dragging of windows (have to open dconf to set it back from super-click)
[18:04] <greg-g> 2) putting a stupid headphones icon next to the volume level icon? why?
[18:04] <brousch> It's Gnome's way or the highway
[18:04] <greg-g> probably more, but I'mma just going to stop here
[18:05] <brousch> KDE welcomes you
[18:06] <greg-g> yeah, maybe
[18:08] <brousch> Even Ubuntu touch is qt. Come to the future
[18:09] <jrwren> i should relaly try kubuntu again soon
[18:10] <jrwren> i've not used it in years.
[18:10] <jrwren> xubuntu is great
[18:10] <jrwren> lubuntu is great too :)
[18:10] <brousch> Too much manual work on a laptop with those
[18:10] <brousch> They are fine for VMs
[18:10] <jrwren> is it?
[18:10] <jrwren> and desktop
[18:10] <brousch> Probably
[18:11] <brousch> Do people still use desktops? i thought they stopped selling those
[18:11] <jrwren> we build them ourselves.
[18:11] <jrwren> or we spend $2999 for a mac pro, cuz... cuz... oh right, cuz its Assembled in USA
[18:18] <cmaloney> I haven't played with straight GNOME in years
[18:18] <cmaloney> but from the sound of it I'm not going to be happy
[21:38] <greg-g> I don't understand how this is possible: http://paste.mitechie.com/show/1050/
[21:38] <greg-g> rick_h_: ^^ ?
[21:39] <rick_h_> greg-g: looking, having issues loading atm
[21:40] <greg-g> basically, "sudo pip install something && something" gets me ImportError: No module names something
[21:42] <rick_h_> greg-g: hmm, package did something wonky?
[21:43]  * greg-g shrugs, "Successfully installed taskhelm"