[20:27] <bkerensa> slangasek: are you running trusty on any hardware yet?
[20:28] <bkerensa> slangasek: just wondering if the package state is even in a condition ready for testing
[20:28] <slangasek> we keep the archive in a constantly usable state now
[20:42] <bkerensa> slangasek: ;) ok Ill take your word for it and upgrade
[20:51] <bkerensa> slangasek: SystemError: E:Problem executing scripts DPkg::Post-Invoke 'adequate
[20:51] <bkerensa> --help >/dev/null 2>&1 || exit 0; exec adequate --debconf --user
[20:51] <bkerensa> nobody --pending', E:Sub-process returned an error code
[20:51] <bkerensa> Could not install the upgrades
[20:51] <bkerensa> =o
[20:51] <slangasek> yeah, so stop trying to use adequate on your live system?
[20:51] <slangasek> that's a QA tool
[20:51] <bkerensa> slangasek: update-manager -d  also fails
[20:52] <slangasek> because you have installed a tool that breaks your apt environment.
[20:52] <bkerensa> slangasek: which tool is that?
[20:52] <slangasek> adequate
[20:52] <slangasek> the one named in the error message
[20:53] <bkerensa> I did not install it
[20:53] <bkerensa> but I just removed it
[20:53] <bkerensa> :D
[20:53] <slangasek> then you installed piuparts which depends on it
[20:53] <slangasek> s/depends/recommends/
[20:57] <bkerensa> slangasek: perhaps the ubuntu-dev package installs those I removed piuparts and adequate though
[20:58] <bkerensa> still hangs on setting up new channels though :s
[20:59] <slangasek> there is no ubuntu-dev package.  There is a packaging-dev package, which is one guy's idea of what you should install and is not endorsed by either Debian or Ubuntu at large.
[20:59] <slangasek> (and packaging-dev depends on piuparts, yes.)
[20:59] <bkerensa> slangasek: its suggested on developer.ubuntu.com
[20:59] <slangasek> make sure to purge adequate (dpkg --purge adequate) to get entirely rid of the hook
[20:59] <bkerensa> seems pretty endorsed :)
[21:00] <slangasek> show me the link, please
[21:00] <slangasek> I'm not talking about the ubuntu sdk package
[21:01] <bkerensa> http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/getting-set-up.html
[21:01] <bkerensa> :)
[21:01] <bkerensa> brought to you by the Canonical Community Team :)
[21:01] <bkerensa> what?
[21:01] <bkerensa> thats the Ubuntu Packaging Guide
[21:01] <bkerensa> it predates the SDK
[21:01] <bkerensa> dholbach wrote that I believe
[21:02] <bkerensa> nothing to do with app dev
[21:03] <slangasek> ah.
[21:04] <slangasek> yes, the editing process of those docs is full of fail
[21:04] <bkerensa> lol
[21:04] <bkerensa> :D
[21:06] <bkerensa> slangasek: yeah do purged and retried it does some nasty little loop... tells me trusty is available goes about calculating changes
[21:06] <bkerensa> then tells me I am fully up to date with out updating anything
[21:06] <bkerensa> :s
[21:17] <slangasek> https://code.launchpad.net/~vorlon/ubuntu-packaging-guide/dont-recommend-packaging-dev/+merge/192244
[21:28] <bkerensa> slangasek: :)
[21:34] <slangasek> bkerensa: so I've just successfully done update-manager -d, no failure here
[21:40] <bkerensa> hmm
[21:40] <bkerensa> from 13.10
[21:40] <bkerensa> ?
[21:51] <bkerensa> slangasek: The software on this computer is up to date.
[21:51] <bkerensa> There are no upgrades available for your system. The upgrade will now
[21:51] <bkerensa> be canceled.
[21:51] <bkerensa> Do you want to start the upgrade?
[21:51] <bkerensa> =/
[21:51] <bkerensa> this is from 13.10
[21:51] <slangasek> when running 'update-manager -d'?
[21:52] <bkerensa> no idea how to troubleshoot whats going on
[21:52] <bkerensa> slangasek: thats from do-release-upgrade but update-manager -d also does the same with the UI
[21:53] <bkerensa> perhaps its the mirror I am using being outdated?
[21:53] <bkerensa> idk
[21:53]  * bkerensa checks that
[22:05] <blkperl> bkerensa: where is that server. FEEL BAD