[05:19] <Kilos> morning all
[05:57] <Kilos> hi bduk1 
[05:59] <Squirm> morning
[05:59] <mazal> Morning everyone
[05:59] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[05:59] <Kilos> hi mazal 
[06:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning peeps
[06:08] <Kilos> morning ThatGraemeGuy 
[06:32] <superfly> aloha ThatGraemeGuy
[06:33] <Kilos> morning superfly 
[06:33] <superfly> and Kilos :-)
[06:33]  * ThatGraemeGuy waves
[06:48] <sakhi> morning
[06:48] <Kilos> ohi sakhi 
[07:03] <inetpro> good mornings
[07:13] <Kilos> hi inetpro 40mm total
[07:13] <Kilos> lekker ne
[07:13] <Kilos> hi aquarat 
[07:14] <aquarat> hey kilos :)
[07:31] <inetpro> Kilos: Nice! We had 7.5mm last night
[07:31] <Kilos> so min?
[07:31] <Kilos> sjoe
[07:31] <Kilos> mind you we only got 6 last night
[07:31] <inetpro> well at least that get's us to about 30mm since Saturday
[07:32] <Kilos> hi drussell 
[07:32] <Kilos> ya thats good here in the desert inetpro 
[07:33] <inetpro> others are talking about +60mm since Saturday
[07:33] <inetpro> in the east of Pretoria
[07:33] <Kilos> sjoe
[07:34] <mazal> Guys , can someone tell me why this didn't work :
[07:35] <mazal> ./backup.sh && ./apt-cache.sh
[07:35] <mazal> The first one ran , the second one didn't
[07:43] <Kilos> sjoe
[07:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> the second won't run if the exit status of the first was not 0
[07:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> if you want the second to run regardless, separate them with ; instead of &&
[07:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6152659/bash-sh-difference-between-and
[07:48] <mazal> Thanx ThatGraemeGuy 
[07:48] <Kilos> mazal, kyk man ^^
[07:48] <Kilos> lol he did
[07:48] <Kilos> skuus
[07:49] <mazal> First always exits with error , that explains it then :)
[07:49] <Kilos> ou graampie n slim ou ne
[07:49] <mazal> What would I do without you clever okes
[07:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> :-)
[07:51] <mazal> Gotta image , bbl
[08:02] <Kilos> eish have android tablets not got a shutdown goodie?
[08:02] <Kilos> do you just kill the power
[08:05] <inetpro> talking about exit code
[08:05]  * inetpro likes the latest byobu features
[08:05] <inetpro> Byobu Prompt Now Includes Exit Code of Previous Command and ⟫ http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2013/09/byobu-prompt-now-includes-exit-code-of.html
[08:05] <Kilos> oh sis says it does give a confirmation message first
[08:29] <mazal> Hmm , seems I am in need of a specific backup app
[08:32] <Kilos> deja-dup
[08:39] <Squirm> Maaz: seen magespawn
[08:39] <Maaz> Squirm: magespawn was last seen 9 days, 18 hours, 25 minutes and 13 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2013-10-12 16:13:56 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2013-10-12 16:14:03 SAST
[08:39] <Squirm> Kilos: what's happened to mage?
[08:39] <Kilos> i dunno Squirm maybe very busy
[08:40] <Squirm> Kilos: is he still up north?
[08:43] <Kilos> up north?
[08:45] <mazal> Kilos, that won't work for me
[08:45] <mazal> I have a unique need
[08:46] <Kilos> aw mazal that sucks
[08:46] <mazal> I need a backup to run on specific days of month , each to each own folder. Normalle rsync and cron will do , BUT
[08:46] <mazal> If my pc is off and backup is missed I need something to prompt that it was missed and that it must be run
[08:46] <Squirm> Kilos: North coast
[08:47] <mazal> That last part takes cron and rsync out
[08:47] <Kilos> maybe rsync /home /etc /var to an external
[08:47] <Kilos> ya he is stil in hluhluwe
[08:47] <Squirm> mazal: in RH I learned about anacron
[08:47] <mazal> rsync and cron won't prompt me if the job was missed
[08:49] <Squirm> mazal: anacron
[08:51] <Squirm> Kilos: cool. I'm going up there next weekend
[08:51] <Kilos> mail him and tell him
[08:51] <Squirm> going to the Hluhluwe–iMfolozi Park
[08:51] <Kilos> he cant go on leave yet he just started
[08:51] <Kilos> lekker
[08:52] <Kilos> i used to buy game from them when the culled
[08:52] <Kilos> a whole slaughtered impala for like R20
[08:52] <Kilos> good old days
[08:53] <Squirm> :/
[08:58]  * mazal krap kop
[08:58] <Squirm> heading up next Friday - will try and leave early and get to St. Lucia
[08:58] <Squirm> if the weather is good
[08:59] <Squirm> I haven't been there in many, many, many years
[08:59] <Squirm> besides, I was too young
[09:00] <Kilos> hahaha
[09:01] <Kilos> lovely part of za that. can get very hot in summer though
[09:20] <charl_> good morning
[09:20] <charl_> Maaz: coffee on
[09:20]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[09:21] <Kilos> hi charl_ 
[09:21] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[09:21] <Maaz> Kilos: Righto
[09:23] <charl_> hi Kilos :)
[09:24] <Squirm> mazal: did you have a look at anacron?
[09:24] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl_ and Kilos!
[09:24] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[09:24] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[09:27] <charl_> Maaz: thanks
[09:27] <Maaz> charl_: No problem
[09:32] <mazal> Squirm, nope , don't know it
[09:32] <Squirm> mazal: it does what you want to do
[09:33] <mazal> Will google thanx Squirm 
[09:33] <Squirm> it's like cron, but you can only specify daily, weekly, monthly, etc. But it runs when your PC comes back up
[09:37] <mazal> The problem is that I can't specify date with that
[09:37] <mazal> Must be able to specify day of month
[09:39] <Squirm> run a daily script that checks the date and if the date matches the day you want to perform your action on, then do it
[09:40] <Squirm> then that script with run every day when your PC is turned on. Won't take much to work out it's not your specfied date
[09:40] <mazal> ish
[09:42] <mazal> And anacron also can't specify time
[09:43] <Squirm> you can specify a time range
[09:44] <Squirm> add an at command to anacron?
[09:45] <mazal> It's only in summer I struggle with this when I can't leave my equipment on when I'm not home
[09:46] <mazal> ai
[10:15] <Kilos> another missing person is vince0
[10:33] <Kilos> hi Tonberry liamT 
[10:37] <liamT> hey everyone
[11:42] <mazal> Found an app that solves my problem
[11:43] <mazal> Backintime. Great control over how many snapshots are keep. Every week , month and even year :)
[12:11] <Kilos> hmm...
[12:36] <charl_> ok finally got around to starting with this e2ee project of mine
[12:37] <charl_> in between holiday and being sick a lot of time went lost
[12:37] <charl_> http://charl.eu/e2ee/
[12:37] <charl_> any thoughts welcome etc
[12:39] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[12:40] <psyatw> hi charl_
[12:40] <Kilos> hi psyatw 
[12:41] <charl_> hi psyatw 
[12:41] <psyatw> it looks I may be moving back to the netherlands
[12:41] <charl_> how so?
[12:41] <Kilos> oh?
[12:41] <psyatw> I am getting several job offers right now for well-paying jobs
[12:42] <Kilos> thats good
[12:42] <psyatw> one of them even involving a project with linux and c++
[12:42] <Kilos> cool
[12:42] <charl_> heh yeah the economy is busy taking off again
[12:42] <charl_> i was at hoek van holland last week on a boat tour around the rotterdam port
[12:42] <psyatw> so if I get that one, I will have to work for 3 months and then I can take some time off for travel before embarking on another project
[12:43] <psyatw> oh, what did you notice?
[12:43] <charl_> sorry got interrupted
[12:43] <charl_> the tour guide said that compared to last year the port is doing well
[12:44] <charl_> he said last year the port was frightingly empty
[12:44] <Kilos> frighteningly
[12:44] <charl_> lol my english again
[12:45] <charl_> need a spell chequer in irssi
[12:46] <Kilos> i hope thats right
[12:46] <charl_> i need engrish lessins
[12:47] <Kilos> hehe
[12:47] <charl_> maybe one day my japanese is better than my engrish
[12:47] <psyatw> yeah
[12:47] <psyatw> frigging empty :)
[12:47] <psyatw> haha
[12:48] <charl_> fracking empty, galactica style!
[12:48] <charl_> oh yeah they are talking about fracking again in the netherlands
[12:49] <charl_> i think we need to tell them to "frack off" :)
[12:49] <psyatw> :)
[12:49] <charl_> heh "go frack yourselves"
[12:49] <mazal> Cheers everyone , enjoy your evening
[12:49] <charl_> ciao mazal 
[12:49] <psyatw> hi mazal
[12:54] <psyatw> god save the queen!
[12:54] <psyatw> and mazal
[13:19] <charl_> ok added a bunch of stuff http://charl.eu/e2ee/
[13:19] <charl_> starting to look like something now
[13:20] <charl_> i think i have most of my core ideas drafted up now
[13:21] <Kilos> what was this for again charl_ ? an irc chat client or im goodie
[13:21] <Kilos> i forget
[13:21] <charl_> end-to-end encrypted communication
[13:21] <charl_> be that textual, video, audio, files etc
[13:22] <charl_> based off the openpgp standard combined with tls
[13:22] <charl_> zero data persistence on the server
[13:22] <charl_> and full server redundancy, preferably as transparent as possible to the user
[13:23] <charl_> based off the principle that any hardware that is not under your direct control can't be trusted 
[13:26] <Kilos> oh ya the pro was interested
[13:29] <charl_> cool i will ping him when i see him
[13:29] <charl_> this is only initial concept stuff, it still needs a lot of refining, but i need some feedback too, otherwise it becomes my little one-man project
[13:29] <charl_> really want to try and avoid that
[13:41] <psyatw> I find it interesting too
[13:42] <charl_> oool, any ideas / feedback welcome :0
[13:42] <charl_> :)
[13:44] <psyatw> :)
[14:33] <nuvolari> o/
[18:36] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight