[00:00] <hitsujiTMO> tkroo: whats output of: dpkg --get-selections
[00:00] <ccowan_> I guess I will stick with Windows since I can't seem to get this sorted out... kind of a bummer.
[00:00] <Kalel> My  kernel is 3.8.8.31 and I see the latest stable already in 3.11. My hardware is pretty new and I'd like to upgrade it. Should I select 'canonical partners' in ubuntu software to upgrade it?
[00:00] <hitsujiTMO> !upgrade | kalel
[00:01] <wilee-nilee> Kalel, kernels outside a release are not supported.
[00:01] <mr-digital> hitsujiTMO how can i tell im running intel drivers?
[00:01] <mr-digital> still says unknown for graphics
[00:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> Kalel: you'll need debs for that. arch is always at the latest :P
[00:01] <hitsujiTMO> mr-digial post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:02] <tkroo> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6280099/
[00:02] <Kalel> I tried one time upgrade my kernel and had an issue: no mobile broadbrand conection.
[00:02] <Kalel> wilee-nilee: What version are you using?
[00:03] <tkroo> hitsujiTMO, i see 'indicator-datetime' in there.
[00:03] <Kalel> ntzrmtthihu777: You had upgraded rather?
[00:04] <hitsujiTMO> tkroo, yeah was just wondering if the install messed up packages or not
[00:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> Kalel: yeah, as part of filing a bug report I used the mainline kernel debs. I jumped ship for arch linux, however, but still like helping folks out as possible
[00:04] <Brennan> Hello
[00:04] <aurynn> deezed, boot-repair is asking for gksudo/gksu and hangs on probing
[00:05] <mr-digital> http://pastebin.com/we7QeRpi
[00:05] <reisio> Guest41819: hi
[00:05] <Kalel> wile
[00:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> since ubuntu has now passed over the cd size limit you think it may merge the i386 and x86_64 iso's a la arch linux?
[00:07] <mr-digital> hitsujiTMO do you see anything?
[00:07] <hitsujiTMO> mr-digital: what gpu do you have?
[00:07] <Kalel> Uubntu 13.04 still using by default kernel 3.8.0-31 ? Isn't much older?
[00:07] <mr-digital> Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller
[00:08] <reisio> ntzrmtthihu777: why stop there
[00:09] <mr-digital> Intel HD Graphics 2000
[00:09] <pfifo> I have a problem with my desktop switcher, I am running Ubuntu 13.10 with unity, When I try to switch desktops, I cannot tell which desktop its switching to, the entire thing is just a pure black box. I expected it to have atleast a grey border around each workspace thumbnail.
[00:10] <hitsujiTMO> mr-digital: seems to load and detect intel just fine. maybe do a custom xorg.conf to force it
[00:11] <pfifo> My background image is solid black, so hence its solid black.
[00:11] <tkroo> hitsujiTMO, killall unity-panel-service and a restart fixed it for me. Thanks.
[00:12] <hitsujiTMO> tkroo cool!
[00:12] <mr-digital> should i download the latest ubuntu?>
[00:13] <Kalel> Any advice about which kernel version is recomended for APU ATI RADEON, ubuntu 13.04?
[00:13] <hitsujiTMO> mr-digital: is there anything specific in the latest ubuntu you need?
[00:14] <mr-digital> nope
[00:14] <mr-digital> any idea why system says unknown for graphics?
[00:14] <mr-digital> or maybe it just doesn't know what graphics it is?
[00:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> Kalel: most of the kernels are generic; there are specialized kernels with optimization for certain cpu's though
[00:15] <pfifo> mr-digital: to find your graphics inspect the output of 'sudo lshw'
[00:15] <hitsujiTMO> mr-digital: then sticking with lts should be fine. the only reason why i upgraded beyond lts is that i had too many packages that i needed newer versions of for dev
[00:15] <mr-digital> ok
[00:15] <pfifo> ntzrmtthihu777: nothing aside from i386 x86_64 ppc and arm
[00:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> pfifo: not talking ubuntu-space; talking linux in general
[00:16] <pfifo> ntzrmtthihu777: yes, in linux general, you can build the kernel fine tailored to your hardware
[00:16] <aurynn> deezed, and moving forwards once I found and installed gksu
[00:18] <user_corrupt> I just downloaded ubunto and I am trying to install synaptic package manager, but when I click on "available on the software center" then it wants me to select a program to open the link with
[00:18] <user_corrupt> should i select firefox?
[00:18] <that> ubuntu has it's own irc servers?
[00:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> user_corrupt: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[00:18] <OerHeks> that no, we use #Freenode
[00:18] <user_corrupt> ntzrmtthihu77: thanks, ill do that, but any idea what im supposed to use to open the link?
[00:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> user_corrupt: apturl or something like that, not sure.
[00:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> user_corrupt: in any case you may as well use software center to browse available packages instead of firefox/other-web-browser
[00:19] <mikolaj> how can I make ubuntu shut down my computer after som idle time?
[00:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> is there a way to make a live ubuntu cd that can boot into a few different de's and install that version of ubuntu?
[00:20] <hitsujiTMO> mr-digital: out of curiosity, whats the oupt of lspci: -k -d 8086:*
[00:20] <aurynn> ah, I probably don't want grub on the LVM array..
[00:20] <hitsujiTMO> mr-digital: out of curiosity, whats the oupt of: lspci -k -d 8086:*
[00:21] <pfifo> ntzrmtthihu777: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch
[00:22] <reisio> mikolaj: should be something to do with power management in the menu somewere
[00:22] <teratoma> im running a Thinkpad x201 w/ latest ubuntu.  Now UI stuff is really slow... and power drain is faster.  what do i do?
[00:22] <hitsujiTMO> ntzrmtthihu777: the wrong way: copy the partitions of usb installs to a single usb, and add a grub partition that boots the respective live partitions
[00:22] <reisio> teratoma: don't use it?
[00:23] <pfifo> ntzrmtthihu777: youll also need to look at preseeding for installing the version of your choice
[00:23] <teratoma> reisio: that's not the greatest answer! but thank you for your suggestion.
[00:23] <wilee-nilee> user_corrupt, Kind of a confusing description, you downloaded ubuntu then did what with it>
[00:23] <minimec> mikolaj: http://askubuntu.com/questions/215870/how-can-i-shutdown-my-pc-when-the-system-is-idle https://launchpad.net/complexshutdown
[00:23] <hitsujiTMO> teratoma: what graphics chipset is it?
[00:24] <user_corrupt> ntzrmtthihu77: thanks, found it finally
[00:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> pfifo: I've been looking at the iso's guts, so its the preseed that makes a real difference?
[00:25] <pfifo> teratoma: try lubuntu or xubuntu... or switch back to older version and wait for 14.04 with mir
[00:25] <teratoma> hitsujiTMO: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02
[00:26] <pfifo> ntzrmtthihu777: yes, ask ubottu about !preseed
[00:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> hitsujiTMO: I'm fairly adept at creating bootable usb sticks from iso's; I've worked out making a win7 installer usb from within linux that works 100% :P
[00:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> pfifo: ubottu knows nothing of preseed :/
[00:26] <pfifo> id rather spend an extra $300 a month on air conditioning than install windows
[00:27] <reisio> pfifo: would be cold
[00:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> pfifo: XD
[00:28] <pfifo> ntzrmtthihu777: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/i386/preseed-intro.html
[00:28] <OerHeks> I would open the window, saves $300
[00:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> pfifo: I agree, but working as a pc repairman puts me at the customer's whims, not mine :P
[00:28] <reisio> OerHeks: only one, though
[00:28] <hitsujiTMO> teratoma: what part of the ui is exactly slow?
[00:28] <reisio> OerHeks: otherwise you'd be using windows again
[00:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> not touching mir with a 10' pole
[00:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> hitsujiTMO: actually I find using 7z x on an iso is faster and simpler :P
[00:30] <Kalel> Its plausible: http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git/commit/?h=linux-3.11.y - I want to install in ubuntu 13.04.
[00:31] <Kalel> Found: http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-kernel-3-11-6-on-ubuntu-linux-mint-debian-pear-os-and-elementary-os/
[00:31] <teratoma> hitsujiTMO: its odd. its snappy and fine immediately after booting. about 10 minutes in... opening windows , moving them around is slow.  the machine gets visibly slower, i can see browser windows opening slower.  this didnt happen in Raring
[00:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> Kalel: yeah, but once you do that you can pretty much rule out getting help in here. I applaud you for wanting the best available, but consider what the consequences would be :P
[00:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> teratoma: what de you using?
[00:32] <jumfernandez> hitsujiTMO
[00:32] <hitsujiTMO> teratoma: the simplest thing to try is install unity-tweak-tool and disable background blur in search. if that doesnt help try switching to gnome de or
[00:32] <hitsujiTMO> jumfernandez
[00:33] <jumfernandez> hitsujitmo i restarted and not works
[00:33] <bsing> Hi there, anybody know if it is possible to create and install a windows partition on an ubuntu machine?
[00:33] <hitsujiTMO> did you build and install the proprietary driver?
[00:33] <Kalel> ntzrmtthihu777: Lets go then.. I'll come later.
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> !dualboot | bsing
[00:34] <pfifo> http://xkcd.com/327/
[00:34] <OerHeks> bsing install windows before ubuntu
[00:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> bsing: very easy
[00:34] <reisio> bsing: gparted
[00:34] <jumfernandez> sorry hitsujiTMO what it's the link
[00:34] <bsing> i have only done it the other way around - ubuntu post windows and have very little experience with windows
[00:34] <hitsujiTMO> jumfernandez: try the proprietary driver: http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=21&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true#2772
[00:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> bsing: make a ntfs partition for windows; boot the installer cd; install to that, then you'll need to boot a live cd to fix the grub2 mbr thingus.
[00:35] <bsing> thanks guys
[00:35] <hitsujiTMO> jumfernandez: RTL8192CU is the one you want
[00:36] <reisio> bsing: if you're going to install Windows to metal, all you need is unused partition space and two/three primary partitions you can use
[00:36] <reisio> the installer will handle the rest
[00:37] <bsing> ouch looks windows needs to be installed first to avoid issues
[00:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> bsing: it makes things simpler, but it can be done.
[00:38] <bsing> thing is i don't know how to fix *anything* in windows
[00:39] <reisio> bsing: it doesn't need to be installed first, but it helps
[00:39] <reisio> awe ntzrmtthihu777 already said that
[00:39]  * reisio is redundant
[00:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> bsing: fixing the grub bit isn't windows-side. boot a live cd of ubuntu, install boot-repair, then run it, done :P
[00:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> !boot-repair | bsing
[00:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> !bootrepair | bsing
[00:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> dammit, what's the factoid =_=
[00:41] <bsing> thanks reisio and ntzrmtthihu777
[00:41] <Gallomimia> during do-release-upgrade shall i expect to lose installed video drivers?
[00:42] <bsing> now to find someplace to buy windows
[00:42] <reisio> bsing: :/
[00:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> Gallomimia: if it involves a new kernel you'll likely have to recompile, or dkms will handle it for you. depends.
[00:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> bsing: you can buy online, methinks.
[00:43] <Gallomimia> ntzrmtthihu777: no i installed some modules with apt-get and dkpg amd drivers btw
[00:43] <Gallomimia> oh. it did compile a new kernel methinks.
[00:43] <Gallomimia> well. only one way to find out really, reboot
[00:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> Gallomimia: depending on what they are its likely a dkms package. it just sets up the source code so dkms can recompile it on most kernel updates.
[00:46] <jumfernandez> ok, i try
[00:46] <NoOneOfNote> I have a command line install of Ubuntu 13.04.  After a period of inactivity, as would be expected, the (laptop) display goes to sleep.  Unfortunately, it never wakes up.  How can I prevent a CLI install from putting the monitor to sleep?
[00:47] <NoOneOfNote> display*
[00:48] <hitsujiTMO> NoOneOfNote: how exactly did you do the cli install?
[00:48] <pfifo> NoOneOfNote: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1063566
[00:49] <NoOneOfNote> That'll do it, pfifo.  My google-fu is weak, evidently.
[00:49] <mrdigital1> hey all!
[00:49] <mrdigital1> im finally using ubuntu 12.04
[00:49] <NoOneOfNote> I thought I had verbatim on.  Thank you.
[00:49] <hitsujiTMO> mrdigital1: gz
[00:49] <pfifo> NoOneOfNote: no its not, took me several years to learn that
[00:49] <NoOneOfNote> Heh.
[00:49] <mrdigital1> gz?
[00:50] <NoOneOfNote> Don't know what changed to upset the server, but it's not like it's eating up a lot of power anyway.  :3
[00:50] <Gallomimia> hm. well the compile was by release name.  the new one is saucy?
[00:50] <NoOneOfNote> Again, thanks.  You folks have a nice day.
[00:52] <s-haha-n> how do I change the color of the username @PC name in Gnome terminal for 13.10, in the .bashrc right?    but where...
[00:52] <reisio> s-haha-n: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-tip-prompt/
[00:52] <Dr_Willis> s-haha-n:  read up on the 'bash prompt howto' guide - tldp.org may have it
[00:53] <Dr_Willis> s-haha-n:  the .bashrc the line that mention... # uncomment for a colored prompt.......
[00:53] <s-haha-n> Dr_Willis, hmm i tried what I did in 13.04 in the .bashrc do you think it'd have changed since then?... it doesn't work like that.. does it?
[00:54] <Dr_Willis> s-haha-n:  the bash prompt has worked the same way for like.. decades
[00:54] <Dr_Willis> the .bashrc looks identical to the old ones to me.
[00:54] <Dr_Willis> export   PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\[\033[01;32m\]\u@\h\[\033[00m\]:\[\033[01;34m\]\w\[\033[00m\]\$ '
[00:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> Dr_Willis: I rather like zsh now :P
[00:55] <Dr_Willis> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/
[00:55] <Dr_Willis> i dont do enough advanced shell work to need more then just bash
[00:56] <user_corrupt> ok, so I tried to unzip a tar on my desktop and it says operation not permitted
[00:56] <Dr_Willis> user_corrupt:  how did you try it exactly>
[00:56] <Gallomimia> check permissions of file and destination directory
[00:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> Dr_Willis: lol, if nothing else the tab-completion makes it worth it :P
[00:57] <s-haha-n> Dr_Willis, thank you, I learned something today :B
[00:58] <zz0> s-haha-n: bashrc still works fine...http://www.kirsle.net/wizards/ps1.html
[00:58] <hitsujiTMO> s-haha-n: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6280266/ an example of mine if you want to create your own
[00:59] <Dr_Willis> i recall some bash theme project/setup that had dozens of prompts yoi could play with
[00:59] <BrianH> Is there a patch for system-config-kickstart for 13.10 yet?
[00:59] <user_corrupt> Dr_Willis: right click and extract here
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> user_corrupt:  try the command line. it may give more meaningfull errors
[01:00] <user_corrupt> error setting owner: operation not permitted
[01:00] <ajhunter> I'm running 13.10 with kde installed as an afterthought (kubuntu-desktop), and now I want to completely remove unity. from what I've read, this doesn't require a full reinstall, but it seems I should be using the KDE login screen first. How do I set that as my default?
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> user_corrupt:  sounds like you dont have permission to read the file. or perhaps write to wherever its wrignint to
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> user_corrupt:  you extracting it onto a NTFS/Vfat partion?
[01:01] <user_corrupt> paralelles install
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> no idea what parallells install    means.
[01:01] <user_corrupt> oh, its a thing to run other os's on osx
[01:01] <s-haha-n> ohh also, I can't seem to find the remap keys   'Esc' and 'caps-lock'  switch in 13.10
[01:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> Dr_Willis: virtualization for osx
[01:02] <s-haha-n> anyone know how to?  or is it dumb to do that, i do it for vim
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  your message implies its extracting onto a filesystem that does not support the normal ext2/3/4 linux permissions/ownership fetures
[01:03] <user_corrupt> well shit
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> s-haha-n:  cant recall ever seeing a switch to do tht...
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> oops wrong nick. ;)
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> user_corrupt:  wht are you extacting exactly>
[01:04] <user_corrupt> eclipse juno ee .tar
[01:04] <user_corrupt> tar.gz i mean
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> to your linux users home directory?  what is the filesystem type, ext2,3,4? other? what does mount say its useing
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> thats just a Warning as far as i know. unp, or the cli should be able to extract the files
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> the owner just wont be what was originall in in the tar archive
[01:06] <user_corrupt> hmm, looking for mount..
[01:06] <s-haha-n> Dr_Willis, ooh i was using cinnamon +13.04 perhaps it was a cinnamon thing not a unity thing...
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> s-haha-n:  cant see why they would have that either. but who knows
[01:09] <s-haha-n> Dr_Willis, for like vim, instead of hitting the Esc key or ctrl+c  .. idk, positive i had     'Esc' and 'caps-lock'    switched in 13.04
[01:09] <s-haha-n> it was in the keyboard layouts thing
[01:10]  * Dr_Willis LIKES his caps Lock. ;)
[01:14] <To0Ls> Is ubuntu the best looking distro?
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> To0Ls:  depends on wht you like in the looks department,
[01:15] <To0Ls> The only distro that has come close to ubuntu for me is elementaryOS
[01:15] <To0Ls> every other distro just looks so amateur in design
[01:15] <To0Ls> :|
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> i had issues with elementaryOS. but im old skool and find all the fancy transparency effects  rather poor looking
[01:15] <To0Ls> I'm hoping to find another good looking one
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> id rather have nice clear concise controls and not  the sublime type. ;0
[01:16] <To0Ls> is there a distro you'd recommend for me to try out?
[01:16] <To0Ls> I'm not a linux power user but I'm not breaking my installs either
[01:16] <jumfernandez> sorry hitsujiTMO when i want install the propietary drivers appear an error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6280343/ , the lines of command 'make'
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> elemtary is based on ubuntu 12.04 - so it should work fine for most cases
[01:17] <To0Ls> i had weird problems in elementaryos.. headphone jack wouldn't work, but speakers are fine
[01:17] <To0Ls> but it looks nice
[01:17] <Dr_Willis> gnome-shell has  rather smooth looks. the new gnome-shell classic mode is also handy if you want old skool
[01:17] <user_corrupt> shit, so a zip file will extract, but a eclipse tar.gz wont..
[01:17] <user_corrupt> oops, language
[01:17] <Dr_Willis> you can instll the elemtary desktop onto ubuntu. but i had issues doing that
[01:17] <Dr_Willis> user_corrupt:  try the cli tools yet?
[01:18] <Dr_Willis> sounds like the archive manager is just complaining.
[01:18] <Dr_Willis> zip files dont keep track of ownership or the adavanced permissions that ext2/3/4 use tar does.
[01:18] <user_corrupt> Dr_Willis: can you tell me where i can find the terminal?
[01:18] <Dr_Willis> user_corrupt:  what desktop are you using?
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> type in 'terminal' in the unity dash.. and it should show it
[01:19] <skinnkavaj> hello
[01:19] <skinnkavaj> i am installing ubuntu for the first time
[01:19] <skinnkavaj> with virtualbox manager
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> alt-ctrl-t in unity also starts a term
[01:20] <skinnkavaj> i get asked "A new nearby device is trying to access the PC"
[01:20] <To0Ls> i can't believe how sleek ubuntu's user interface has become over the years
[01:20] <skinnkavaj> can it be virtualbox?
[01:20] <pfifo> Hello Dr_Willis
[01:21] <user_corrupt> Dr_Willlis: I'm in downloads folder with the cli, can you tell me the command to attempt to extract here?
[01:23] <pfifo> user_corrupt: tar xzfv
[01:23] <hitsujiTMO> jumfernandez: make sure you have done: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic build-essential
[01:25] <jumfernandez> thanks hitsujiTMO, I will try now, sorry for the trouble
[01:26] <pfifo> heh I have 4418 deb files in my archives folder
[01:28] <user_corrupt> Dr_Willis: thanks, cli worlked
[01:28] <user_corrupt> but now i have to figure out how to install it and i just remembered how hard that is with linux
[01:29] <fogNL> Anyone have any ideas why an upgrade from 13.04 -> 13.10 would take over 3 hours (and counting) to perform? i5-3570k/16gb ram/ssd hdd .  I can see action in the terminal window, but it just keeps going and going.  This doesn't seem normal
[01:30] <lunaphyte> hi.  i've just upgraded a desktop install from 13.04 to 13.10 and it seems that my "lenses" [is this the right terminology?] in the unity launcher are gone.
[01:30] <reisio> fogNL: failure
[01:31] <fogNL> reisi, The update-manager window is still showing me things installing.  It just seems like its taking forever
[01:31] <lunaphyte> i have both the unity-lens-applications and unity-lens-files packages installed, but i don't see the icons at the bottom of the launcher window
[01:31] <fogNL> reisio , -^
[01:32] <reisio> fogNL: like, extracting/copying, or downloading?
[01:32] <SchrodingersScat> fogNL: are you downloading via hamm radio?
[01:32] <fogNL> reisio, its at unpacking/setting up part
[01:32] <SchrodingersScat> fogNL: please say yes
[01:32] <fogNL> SchrodingersScat, I wish. 80Mbit fiber.  The download part went fast
[01:33] <pfifo> user_corrupt: its easy, 'sudo apt-get install eclipse'
[01:38] <pfifo> fogNL: as long as its not frozen you should be ok
[01:38] <fogNL> pfifo, Alright.  Just strange that it takes so long.  Its like i'm installing on a 386 or something.
[01:39] <pfifo> fogNL: its likely your mirror of choice was uploading to you via hamm radio
[01:40] <hitsujiTMO> maybe its installing every package in the repo?
[01:40] <jozadaque> olá!
[01:40] <pfifo> hitsujiTMO: "be prepared"
[01:40] <fogNL> hitsujiTMO, i'm starting to wonder that, I'm seeing a lot of both i386 and amd64 packages installing...
[01:40] <pfifo> fogNL: thats not good
[01:41] <fogNL> nope
[01:41] <fogNL> I may just flatten the system.  This install of 13.04 is only a few weeks old
[01:41] <pfifo> fogNL: are you a developer? or fuss with building your own deb packages
[01:41] <fogNL> pfifo, nope, not at all.  I just game, web browse
[01:41] <man0riaX> Good morning
[01:41] <fogNL> I just ran update-manager for the upgrade
[01:42] <pfifo> fogNL: are you using 386 or x86_64
[01:42] <fogNL> x86_64
[01:42] <fogNL> There was probably some previous i386 packages installed with crossover games
[01:42] <fogNL> but not nearly this many
[01:42] <pfifo> fogNL: did you install mutilib for GL or SDL or other gaming related stuff?
[01:44] <pfifo> fogNL: ohh, you might be alright then, those packages can pull in alot of deps
[01:44] <humblejingle> .
[01:44] <pfifo> fogNL: but seriously, 3 hours? It took me 15 minutes to fresh install and another 20 to update. Maybe you should flatten
[01:44] <fogNL> pfifo, yip.  Started the install at 19:49, and its currently 23:14
[01:45] <sam113101> GUYS
[01:46] <pfifo> fogNL: I say, make a backup of whats in /var/cache/apt/archives, do a fresh install, and copy the packages over just incase it was download speed, then update and upgrade
[01:46] <pfifo> sam113101: Ohh its you
[01:46] <fogNL> pfifo, 573 i386 packages installed so far....
[01:46] <sam113101> do I know you from somewhere?
[01:46] <pfifo> here
[01:47] <jeeva> any one is there to help me to make my own distro
[01:47] <pfifo> fogNL: ok thats a bit much for multilib
[01:47] <sam113101> do you appreciate my presence here?
[01:47] <fogNL> pfifo, that's what I thought ;)
[01:48] <sam113101> my shortcuts break all the time, I don't understand why
[01:49] <pfifo> sam113101: No opinion at this momen
[01:49] <pfifo> what kind of 'shortcut'
[01:49] <sam113101> ctrl+alt+left and right
[01:49] <sam113101> to switch workspaces
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> jeeva:  thats not a trivial task. it depends on what you want to do a great deal
[01:51] <pfifo> Dr_Willis: we should make a distro
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> just what linux needs more distros
[01:51] <jeeva> i want to make custom distro
[01:51] <jeeva> in ubuntu
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> pfifo:  RedNeck Linux. ;)
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> jeeva:  you have said that allready. there should be some guides out there on remastering your own ubuntu spinoff.
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> jeeva:  now why you need to.. is another story entirely
[01:52] <hitsujiTMO> jeeva: here's where i suggest you start: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[01:52] <pfifo> Dr_Willis: with the redneck package manager
[01:53] <pigkiller> may i know how do i setup a cron that performs a task every 5 hours starting from let's say 0905 hours daily? i tried 5 9/5 * * * task.sh but it's not running
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> i dont recall ever seeing a way to tell cron to 'start at a specific time, THEN every X hours'
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> since cron basically is thinking its running 24/7 ;)
[01:56] <pfifo> cron is so outdated
[01:59] <hikenboot> after upgrading a vm to the very latest stable 13.04 I believe I get a screen that shows the ubuntu symbol and says ubuntu below it...shift or ctrl+alt+f1 do not seem to work. anyone know the cause or a simple way to fix it?
[02:01] <nelson777> hello,  0 down vote favorite 	  I installed Ubuntu 13.10 in an old computer that is too slow for unity, so I had to leave it in session-fallback-mode. How can I show day and seconds in the indicator applet ? it shows hour and minute only.  Thnks
[02:02] <yeats> pigkiller: you could right in some sort of time check into your script so it won't run when you don't want it to?
[02:02] <yeats> s/right/write/
[02:03] <nelson777> please ignore the " 0 down vote favorite", I asked this question in Ask Ubuntu also, and pasted from there, but it's quite late here and I really need to complete this setup
[02:07] <user_corrupt> Im trying to install Google Chrome through ubuntu software center, and it says "dependency is not satisfiable: lib32gcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1.1)"
[02:07] <hitsujiTMO> user_corrupt: 32bit ubuntu?
[02:10] <user_corrupt> hitsuj1tmo: yeppers
[02:10] <user_corrupt> i guess that is my whole mistake
[02:11] <hitsujiTMO> user_corrupt: it's a known bug for the 32bit .deb pointing to a 64bit dependency. should be fixed soon
[02:11] <hitsujiTMO> google messup
[02:11] <gdos> how do i remove a package that would not install properly but now can't be removed even with 'purge' ?
[02:11] <user_corrupt> hitsuj1tmo: is there any way for me to get around it since i really need chromium in order to get my devemopment environment set up?
[02:12] <wygenius> top
[02:12] <salamandre43025> Hello all. Just updated to the latest headers for 12.04LTS as well as nvidia 319. Now I keep getting a boot freeze before the splash screen
[02:12] <salamandre43025> How do I get into the TTY shell to fix this?
[02:12] <hitsujiTMO> user_corrupt: install the beta https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/beta.html
[02:12] <user_corrupt> thanks
[02:13] <gdos> i get the following error when trying to remove the package 'musica' - http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6280547/
[02:19] <ubuser> hello, I am trying to install drivers for an epson scanner. When I run the deb installer, I get this error msg: dependency is not satisfiable:libltdl3 (>= 1.5.2-2)
[02:20] <ubuser> can anyone help or give some guidance on what to do here?
[02:25] <minimec> ubuser: Looks that the package that you are using is rather old. The missing dependency 'libltdl3' is now 'libtdl7' in recent ubuntu distributions. Maybe 'sudo apt-get install libltdl7' will help, but I would not count on it, as the package wants 'libtdl3'
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> ubuser:  i  would check the SANE web site to see if the scanner is not allready supported/drivers included by default
[02:30] <ubuser> Dr_Willis: its not supported but Epson provided drivers. Is there a way I could get libltdl3 to make it work?
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> ubuser:  its rather rare that a company includes pakages/drivers for linux.   if that .deb package is so old it wants libltdl3 - then i imagine epson no longer supports it on linux.
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> now IF they releases specs/open sourced the drivers. then it maybe the drivers are in some other packages in the repositories   whats the exact make of scanner?
[02:31] <ubuser> Dr_Willis: that is right, it looks like a 3rd party vendor was providing support for linux but they dont anymore :(
[02:32] <a_muva_> ubuser: http://archive.debian.net/lenny/libltdl3
[02:32] <ubuser> Dr_Willis: Epson gt-s50
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> http://www.linux-hardware-guide.com/2013-06-16-epson-workforce-pro-gt-s50-document-scanner
[02:34] <gdos> i get the following error when trying to remove the package 'musica' - http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6280547/
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> The scanner can also be used with the generic SANE driver, but does only provide limited set of features in this case. Furthermore, the GT-S50 can be accessed under Linux by the commercially available Linux drivers from Vuescan.
[02:34] <jumfernandez> sorry hitsujiTMO not works, appears this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6280604/
[02:37] <ubuser> Thanks Dr_Willis
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> VueScan site.. gee.. Version 9.3.13. Updated October 16, 2013. Built with 64-bit Ubuntu 10.10     really? 10.10 ;P
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> http://www.hamrick.com/vuescan/epson_gt_s50.html
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> that site seems a dead end. ;) because its not an alternatie to the linu scanenr driver.
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> !find iscan
[02:40] <gdos> i get the following error when trying to remove the package 'musica' - http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6280547/
[02:40] <minimec> ubuser: Well... you could try to install that mentioned 'libltdk7' package and the other dependencies that your printer driver package needs, then open the dirver.deb with with the file-roller compression software and extract the /usr directory to your system. That is dirty, but often working.
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> ubuser:  could try installing the .deb with the 'sudo gdebi whatever.deb' command also.
[02:41] <hitsujiTMO> jumfernandez: whats your: uname -r        and: dpkg --get-selections | grep "linux-headers"
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> it Might pull in needed deps.
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> !find a2dissite
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> gdos:  seems its trying to run the a2dissite command from the apache2 package. and cant find it.. is apache2 installed?
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> /var/lib/dpkg/info/musica.postrm: 8: /var/lib/dpkg/info/musica.postrm: a2dissite: not found
[02:43] <jumfernandez> hitsujiTMO 3.5.0-26-generic
[02:43] <gdos> Dr_Willis: i just purged apache2 (though this error was happening before i did that) that way can get default settings. musica did not install correctly nor did is it allowing me to uninstall it.
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> gdos:  it seems its trying to run a command from the apache2 package. is all im saying.
[02:45] <gdos> Dr_Willis: but how would that affect uninstalling musica?
[02:45] <jumfernandez> hitsujiTMO here the pastebin of the last line: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6280654/+
[02:45] <jumfernandez> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6280654/ sorry
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> gdos:  the Uninsgtaller script is trying to run that command.. is how im reading the error message
[02:45] <gdos> Dr_Willis: so how would i fix the uninstaller?
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> var/lib/dpkg/info/musica.postrm: a2dissite:  <<<< postrm - post removal script (i belive)
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> gdos:  reinstall apache and see if it sees the command
[02:46] <gdos> ok.
[02:47] <hitsujiTMO> jumfernandez: you forgot the 'd' ... should be:  dpkg --get-selections | grep "linux-headers"
[02:48] <BrianH> why does sudo services networking restart crash X.org?
[02:49] <hitsujiTMO> BrianH: because it's badly written?
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> cant say ive ever seen it crash X
[02:49] <irreverant> im having a problem getting the sudo command to install items in ubunt
[02:50] <irreverant> if i do sudo
[02:50] <hitsujiTMO> Dr_Willis: saucy bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1235516
[02:50] <irreverant> sudo -i should give me root correct?
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> hitsujiTMO:  cant say ive seen it do it here. on 13.10 for the last few months.  ;)
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> irreverant:  that should give a root shell - yes
[02:50] <irreverant> then why doesnt apt-get install xchat work?
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> irreverant:  without an actual ERROR MESSAGE.. we have no idea.
[02:51] <hitsujiTMO> irreverant: could help if you supplied the error message
[02:51] <gdos> Dr_Willis: i can't even install apache2 without synaptic trying to work musica; how do i comment out a line in a posttrm file?
[02:51] <edude03> hello everyone, I have a weird issue that's popped up since upgrading to 13.10, if my router reboots my (wired) ubuntu server won't automatically reconnect to the network
[02:51] <irreverant> E: Unable to locate package xchat
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> gdos:  no idea. ive neer needed to. it gave the path to the file in the error. but that may not be a good idea
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> irreverant:  whens the last time you did a 'sudo apt-get update' ?
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> !find xchat
[02:52] <BrianH> Then again, I guess crashing X is one way of renewing my IP ... /faceplam
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> !info xchat
[02:52] <irreverant> just tried and gave me a similar error message3
[02:52] <irreverant> update repository
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> check your sources - make sure universe is enabled
[02:52] <irreverant> well now its working
[02:52] <irreverant> ironic
[02:52] <irreverant> what about adobereader?
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> !pdf
[02:52] <irreverant> do they have a project specific for this
[02:53] <irreverant> apt-get install adobe?
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> irreverant:  'apt-cache search PATTERN' to find packages
[02:53] <hitsujiTMO> irreverant: theres already a pdf reader in ubuntu ... do you need another one?
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> and i dont belove adobe pdf reader is in the default repos
[02:53] <irreverant> can i convert the pdf file to a file document similar to docx?
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> theres numerous pdf tools in the repos.
[02:54] <jumfernandez> hitsujiTMO:  see please, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6280692/ , thanks really, and sorry for the troubles!
[02:55] <irreverant> Dr could you recommend one?
[02:55] <gdos> Dr_Willis: after manually removing the file '/var/lib/dpkg/info/musica.postrm' I ran the command 'sudo apt-get autoremove' and it removed musica. will attempt a reboot and a reinstall of apache2 now.
[02:56] <hitsujiTMO> jumfernandez: you've a pending restart for kernel update. restart then try and build again
[02:56] <irreverant> So does ubuntu recognize rpm?
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> irreverant:  'apt-cache search PATTERN' to find packages - and look at their descriptions
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> !alien
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> dont use RPM's on ubuntu :) it can be.. bad..
[02:57] <irreverant> yes im coming from redhat/fedora/cent well not really cent and more rh than fedora
[02:57] <irreverant> so i see that chrom comes in debian packages... is ubuntu a debian variant?
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> differnt package managers - is a CORE fundamental differane btween redhat and the debian related disrto
[02:57] <irreverant> i want to install this downloaded .deb package
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> irreverant:  ubuntu is based on debian
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> and google chromes debs should work in ubuntu
[02:58] <irreverant> what is the command syntax to unpackage and install?
[02:58] <hitsujiTMO> Dr_Willis: 'should' being the operative word .... borked on 32bit atm
[02:58] <irreverant> the biggest differences i had to overcome were su
[02:58] <irreverant> vs sudo
[02:58] <irreverant> and apt-get vs yum install
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> apt-get install packagename
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> not too complex...
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> !manual
[02:59] <irreverant> the ubuntu software center should also be able to do it right?
[02:59] <irreverant> what about synaptic manager
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> they are all front endd to the apt system
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> !apt
[03:03] <irreverant> i get a dependency is not satisfiable:lib32gcc1(>=1:4.1.1)
[03:03] <irreverant> its been downloaded to the downloads folder
[03:05] <hitsujiTMO> irreverant: google chrome is broken in 32bit. google botched up the package. you'll have to wait for an update or install the beta
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> i only use 64bit. ;)
[03:09] <irreverant> yeah i have an old dell mini 9 with an atom proc
[03:09] <irreverant> means no 64 bit
[03:09] <irreverant> ok so firefox for now
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. my EEE netbook is 64bit
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> theres alwyas  the chromium-browser in teh repos
[03:09] <irreverant> mine came with xp or ubuntu 8.04
[03:09] <irreverant> i heard its not as good as chrome
[03:10] <kamori> I use chromium
[03:10] <irreverant> do i have to add the repo for the chromium browser?
[03:10] <kamori> Almost the same
[03:10] <vimpulse> Chromium and Chrome both have three-month "history full-text search", "no restart to install extensions", and good crash-recovery features.  Nowadays I recommend them over Firefox for most use cases.
[03:11] <irreverant> what is chromium bsu?
[03:11] <vimpulse> I personally use Chromium.
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> !find chromium
[03:11] <vimpulse> irreverant:  maybe a game
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> !info chromium-browser
[03:12] <irreverant> apt-get install chromium referred by another package it says
[03:12] <irreverant> and mentions chromium-bsu
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> use the right package name. ;)
[03:12] <vimpulse> hi all.  :)  Say you are running Ubuntu 13.10's "fsck.ext4" disk-repair tool in "interactive mode".  If you are tired of answering questions, is there a "Yes to All" choice available?
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> chromium-browser
[03:12] <irreverant> ckage chromium is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:12] <irreverant> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[03:12] <irreverant> is only available from another source
[03:12] <irreverant> However the following packages replace it:
[03:12] <irreverant>   chromium-bsu
[03:12] <FloodBot1> irreverant: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> irreverant:  again.. the apcakge name for the browser IS  'chromium-browser'
[03:13] <irreverant> ah
[03:13] <irreverant> thank you
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> 3rd times the charm. ;)
[03:13] <irreverant> haha!
[03:13] <irreverant> yes it worked
[03:13] <hitsujiTMO> vimpulse: -p
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> thers some space invaders game called chromium i recall
[03:13] <vimpulse> hitsujiTMO:  can one Ctrl+C out in the middle then rerun using -p?
[03:13] <irreverant> oh sweet syntax! Dr_Willis than k you
[03:14] <hitsujiTMO> vimpulse: i'm not sure how safe that would be
[03:14] <irreverant> i couldnt use linux at my last job, which as of friday i got laid off
[03:14] <vimpulse> hitsujiTMO:  let me reply in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[03:14] <irreverant> it was a windows only environment but i really believe ubuntu will be leading the market in desktop deployments in the very near future
[03:14] <irreverant> which is why i am making the move to it
[03:15] <irreverant> besides i enjoy installing from the cli instead of having to click through useless links and pages infected with ads and unnecessary info
[03:15] <vimpulse> irreverant:  let me reply to you in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[03:16] <vimpulse> irreverant:  my reply there is now ready to say to you.
[03:17] <everald> Any idea why both xsane and simple-scan won't connect to the scanner as normal user, but will as root?
[03:17] <irreverant> thanks everyone
[03:18] <vimpulse> everald:  Hi!  Good question.  What Google search terms did you already try, in order to find your answer?
[03:18] <everald> I've already searched the web, added the normal user to both "saned" and "scanner" and added "saned" to "scanner", all to no avail.
[03:18] <hitsujiTMO> everald did you relog so the the groups were picked up?
[03:19] <everald> hitsujiTMO, yes, I did "sux - normaluser" from the root prompt, then start xsane / simple-scan there.
[03:22] <gigatropolis> After doing the upgrade to latest version, my Cinnamon desktop comes up blank. No menu bar no nothing as if the configuration got wiped clean. No sure what to do. Any advise how to get started fixing this???  Thanks in advance
[03:22] <lotuspsychje> everald: did you install on them from the normal users desktop?
[03:22] <wilee-nilee> everald, I had to run a rm on xsane to get to work for me https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xsane/+question/65736
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> had no need for root use though
[03:23] <jumfernandez> hitsujiTMO sorry, i restarted, now what i do? essential?
[03:24] <hitsujiTMO> jumfernandez: start the build now .... it should work
[03:27] <wilee-nilee> !info cinnamon
[03:27] <sgo11> hi, I keep getting "Backup" notice. "Keep your files safe by backing up regularly". how can I disable it by modifying a config file? thanks.
[03:27] <neopran> Hey guys, I'm having a weird network problem on a 12.04 box. eth0 is setup with dchp in the interfaces file. NetworkManager is uninstalled. I can SSH into it and NFS shares from it work. BUT I can't ping anything on the same network or the Internet. (can't do updates....). I also can't SSH back into the 1st machine. All my machines on the network get their IP info from a router with Static DHCP assignments and they can all access the inter
[03:27] <neopran> net and each other just fine...
[03:27] <wilee-nilee> gigatropolis, It seems to be in the saucy repos, this from there or a PPA?
[03:29] <gigatropolis> wilee,  PPA I think.
[03:29] <hitsujiTMO> neopran: start with showing us the output of ifconfig
[03:29] <neopran> sure
[03:29] <neopran> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6280793/
[03:30] <jmgk> Will Ubuntu run with 512mb ram?
[03:31] <hitsujiTMO> jmgk try lubuntu or xubuntu
[03:31] <jmgk> oh
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> gigatropolis, check the version and the ppa, saucy is there but the repos and the ppa's are different versions. I would use the ubunu repos myself and run a ppa-purge on the ppas if that is the version not working.
[03:31] <jmgk> well how will Ubuntu run?
[03:31] <sophie_> You'd get better performance depending on the desktop environment
[03:32] <hitsujiTMO> jmgk: extremely poorly
[03:32] <jmgk> ohh
[03:32] <sophie_> I have Lubuntu running on an old machine with 2GB of RAM and a centrino duo 1.5ghz
[03:32] <wilee-nilee> !ppa-purge | gigatropolis info if needed
[03:32] <sophie_> and it's not awfully responsive
[03:33] <wilee-nilee> jmgk, I would go lubuntu or lighter desktop wised
[03:33] <gigatropolis> ubottu thanks
[03:33] <hitsujiTMO> neopran: ok, can you paste the interface config
[03:33] <gigatropolis> thanks wilee
[03:33] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[03:34] <sophie_> Website says 512MB is bare minimum
[03:34] <jmgk> ok wilee-nilee I will try that
[03:34] <jmgk> :)
[03:34] <neopran> it's nice and simple :P     http://paste.ubuntu.com/6280806/
[03:34] <sophie_> I remember when ubuntu would run on 128MB :(
[03:35] <vimpulse> jmgk:  note that if you want a weather taskbar applet, then Lubuntu might not meet your needs, but Xubuntu will.
[03:35] <hitsujiTMO> sophie_: it still does ... ubuntu server that is :P
[03:35] <sophie_> Heehee
[03:35] <vimpulse> jmgk:  why not simply buy a better PC?
[03:36] <sam113101> I'd rather have a nice interface than a crappy one that can run on my two decades old hardware
[03:36] <sophie_> I assume on server you wouldn't be able to run anything graphical because there's no display manager running?
[03:36] <sam113101> ram is cheap nowadays
[03:36] <jmgk> good idea
[03:37] <jmgk> I will try to get a better one
[03:37] <sam113101> sophie_: I'm pretty sure you can, but obviously you won't be able to see it
[03:37] <sophie_> yeah
[03:37] <hitsujiTMO> sophie_: not unless you install an xserver
[03:37] <jumfernandez> hitsujiTMO i tried 'make' and 'make install' ands appear an error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6280819/
[03:38] <sophie_> Is a display manager and windowing system the same thing?
[03:38] <hitsujiTMO> jumfernandez: did you restart your pc?
[03:39] <sam113101> sophie_: no
[03:39] <jumfernandez> yes, yes,  i just restarted :S
[03:39] <wilee-nilee> sophie_, the ubuntu server and the base of ubuntu are basically the same.
[03:39] <sophie_> Yeah
[03:40] <sam113101> windowing system is what handles the graphics, while display manager is what you use to log in to a user
[03:40] <sophie_> And on 13.04/10 that's lightdm?
[03:40] <sam113101> it usually launches your window manager
[03:40] <sam113101> if login is successful
[03:40] <sam113101> I think yes
[03:41] <hitsujiTMO> jumfernandez: ok, we'll force kernel headers for 3.5.0-26-generic : sudo apt-get install linux-headers-3.5.0-26-generic
[03:41] <sam113101> the windowing system is xorg
[03:41] <hitsujiTMO> then: make install
[03:41] <sam113101> (it will be mir in the next release)
[03:42] <hitsujiTMO> <- running mir now
[03:42] <sophie_> Won't that cause driver issues? I thought proprietary drivers specifically needed Xorg
[03:42] <hitsujiTMO> i'm on intel
[03:42] <hitsujiTMO> no problems at all
[03:42] <jumfernandez> hitsujiTMO, ok , in the folder of the drivers not appear an file with the name 'make' or 'install :S
[03:42] <sophie_> Oh, Intel supports mir?
[03:43] <jumfernandez> i writed the command and appears : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6280844/ hitsujiTMO
[03:43] <user_corrupt> i need to install java 6 jdk and jre-6, and this page has instructions for how to get that jdl with ubuntu 11.10, but I need to know how to do it with ubuntu 13.0     http://www.gaggl.com/2011/10/installing-java6-jdk-on-ubuntu-11-10/ does anyone know how?
[03:45] <hitsujiTMO> jumfernandez: can you post the make.log
[03:46] <sam113101> sophie_: there's xmir to help for the move… but I think we need new drivers, yes (really not sure)
[03:47] <bray90820> is teamviewer still in the software sources
[03:47] <sam113101> if you want to read more about it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/
[03:47] <sophie_> sam113101, so then it's up to Nvidia/AMD to support it, otherwise it's just the open source drivers?
[03:47] <hitsujiTMO> sophie_: there seems to be some xorg interaction in it so i'm not sure how much of mir is actually loaded. i just followed the instructions to get it up and running
[03:48] <asc232> jumfernandez, why are you building as root user
[03:48] <zcat[1]> maddening problem with ubuntu studio here; I have two sound devices, built in soundcard and usb mixer .. about half the time they're hw:0 and hw:1 but the other half the time they swap around and everything breaks. How do I fix this so hw:0 is always the chipset sound and hw:1 is always the usb mixer
[03:48] <sam113101> hitsujiTMO: yeah, you might be using xmir
[03:48] <sophie_> My understanding is that xMir loads Xorg if you're using proprietary drivers, and Mir if you're on Nouveau.
[03:48] <neopran> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6280806/
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> using properity drivers here. and no xMir loaded as far as i can tell
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> mir got pushed back i thought to the next release
[03:49] <sam113101> yeah it did
[03:50] <sam113101> 13.10 is already quite buggy as it is for me, I cannot imagine running mir on it, lol
[03:50] <hitsujiTMO> Dr_Willis: you can install it tho
[03:50] <zcat[1]> maddening problem #1 on a brand new install and on live CD there's no working sound control either
[03:51] <jumfernandez> asc232 i don't know
[03:51] <hitsujiTMO> sam113101: i notice no difference between this and xorg
[03:52] <jumfernandez> hitsujiTMO http://paste.ubuntu.com/6280844/ here is the log of the kernel
[03:52] <hitsujiTMO> jumfernandez: can you give me /var/lib/dkms/ndiswrapper/1.57/build/make.log
[03:52] <zcat[1]> anyone eitehr problem?
[03:53] <zcat[1]> even just throw me a link because I don't know what to google for .. I'm sure someone will have an answer to this
[03:53] <jumfernandez> hitsujiTMO, i do the make and it's work now, i'm waiting
[03:53] <hitsujiTMO> jumfernandez: cool
[03:54] <hitsujiTMO> neopran: can't think of what the issue could be, hopefully someone else can chime in
[03:54] <zcat[1]> is this working at all or am I muted?
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> !sound | zcat[1]
[03:55] <neopran> hitsujiTMO: np, thanks for trying anyway... i'm sure it was an update that broke it cause all I do on that machine is store movies and do updates to it ...and i know for a fact it used to work before
[03:55] <jumfernandez> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6280877/ hitsujiTMO, here is the log of the last part of make 's command, and the begin of the 'make install' command
[03:55] <zcat[1]> thanks
[03:56] <hitsujiTMO> jumfernandez: sudo make install
[03:57] <jumfernandez> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6280885/ appear that
[03:57] <jumfernandez> hitsujiTMO http://paste.ubuntu.com/6280885/
[03:59] <xirre> Hi. Some files seem to have appeared in my home directory. .bash_history, .bash_logout, .bashrc, .dmrc, .bash_profile, and some folders of programs I have installed, .dropbox, .virtualbox, .wine, and more. I have two questions, basically. 1. Where do they belong? 2. Do you have any clue how they got there? (Perhaps I clicked and dragged a folder's contents?
[04:00] <xirre> )
[04:01] <hitsujiTMO> jumfernandez: can you try running the install.sh ?
[04:02] <zcat[1]> ok none of that helps. sound works fine, I just can't get to the volume control to change levels or redirect the output.
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> xirre:  err. most of those files are are commonly in your home.
[04:02] <zcat[1]> and also still no answer on preventing the two devices from randomly swapping around.
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> xirre:  sure you dont have 'show hidden files' enabled when you are used to them being hidden?
[04:03] <xirre> So they were always there? Lol. I forgot I turned it on yesterday..
[04:03] <jumfernandez> hitsujiTMO, command not found :S
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> xirre:  they are always there for me.. note the . in the start of the names
[04:03] <xirre> Well, I learned something new. Thanks.
[04:03] <hitsujiTMO> its at the root of the archive your downloaded
[04:03] <hitsujiTMO> jumfernandez: whats you pwd?
[04:03] <zcat[1]> I might just give up on ubuntu studio and use debian. thanks for the help.
[04:03] <hitsujiTMO> jumfernandez: whats your pwd?
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. too bad he dident mention he was using Ubuntu Studio earlier.. that  woud have lead to differnt solutions.
[04:05] <jumfernandez> sorry pwd?
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> 'pwd' - print working directory
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> your CURRENT directory you are in
[04:05] <hitsujiTMO> type: pwd
[04:05] <jumfernandez> wow, wait wait
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> why wait? ;) its a rather trivial command
[04:06] <jumfernandez> hitsujiTMO in the fold of the drivers
[04:06] <Sorn> When i open up dash and type 'disk' no results show up in my ubuntu USB install
[04:06] <Sorn> Am I crazy or is it supposed to pull up the disk utility?
[04:07] <jumfernandez> hitsujiTMO /home/juanyluisina/Desktop/rtl8188C_8192C_usb_linux_v3.4.4_4749.20121105
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> Sorn:  check your filters at the  bottom and right side of the dash window
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> make sure you got apps and so forth eneabled
[04:07] <Sorn> Hah
[04:07] <Sorn> there it is
[04:07] <Sorn> Thanks :)
[04:07] <hitsujiTMO> jumfernandez: bash install.sh
[04:08] <Sorn> Hrm, i switched it to applications and still no results, weird
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> typed it in again? the search field gets reset i recall
[04:09] <Sorn> yea, it says 'search applications' in the background, and i retype it and nothing
[04:09] <Sorn> however when i type in home or files it says 'no results'
[04:09] <jumfernandez> command not found hitsujiTMO :s
[04:09] <Sorn> but not when i have applications selected
[04:09] <hitsujiTMO> bash is not found?
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> Sorn, try resetting, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/reset-unity-and-compiz-in-ubuntu-13-10/
[04:10] <Sorn> heh, now to get a terminal window open
[04:10] <Sorn> since it wont pull it up in applications?
[04:11] <Sorn> direct path perhaps?
[04:11] <Sorn> oh n/m
[04:11] <jumfernandez> hitsujiTMO install.sh: command not found
[04:11] <hitsujiTMO> jumfernandez: type: bash install.sh
[04:11] <mohamedhamdy> In  liber office I Can't use CTRL+C or CTRL+V ... etc when swithing from writing in English to any other language . any help?
[04:12] <mohamedhamdy> In  liber office I Can't use CTRL+C or CTRL+V ... etc when swithing from writing in English to any other language . any help?
[04:12] <hitsujiTMO> jumfernandez: or type: chmod +x install.sh && ./install.sh
[04:13] <jumfernandez> hitsujiTMO chmod: cannot access `install.sh': No such file or directory
[04:13] <hitsujiTMO> jumfernandez: ls
[04:13] <mohamedhamdy> In  liber office I Can't use CTRL+C or CTRL+V ... etc when swithing from writing in English to any other language . any help?
[04:14] <jumfernandez> hitsujiTMO http://paste.ubuntu.com/6280946/
[04:15] <awc> hi guys, I just upgraded to 13.10 on my desktop. After login all I get is a black screen. Using the guest login gets me the default splash screen as a background, but nothing else. Any suggestions?
[04:15] <nelson777> hello, after installing 13.10 I cannot use ctrl-alt-f1. The graphic mode won't change correctly. how can I fix this ?
[04:16] <hitsujiTMO> jumfernandez: ok, now i realise whats going whrong ... where the orininal file you downloaded?
[04:16] <jumfernandez> in downloads hitsujiTMO
[04:16] <mohamedhamdy> In  liber office I Can't use CTRL+C or CTRL+V ... etc when swithing from writing in English to any other language . any help?
[04:16] <wilee-nilee> awc, This an autologin?
[04:16] <Sorn> wilee-nilee: it got stuck on the setsid unity command
[04:16] <awc> wilee-nilee, it is not
[04:17] <Sorn> stuck at 'setting update "run_key"
[04:17] <Sorn> and I see errors as well
[04:17] <Sorn> however
[04:17] <Sorn> it works, so who cares
[04:17] <Sorn> lol
[04:17] <Sorn> Thanks :)
[04:17] <FloodBot1> Sorn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:18] <wilee-nilee> Sorn, I would logout or reboot to be sure its reset.
[04:18] <Paulus68_1> !patience|mohamedhamdy
[04:18] <hitsujiTMO> jumfernandez: extract all the contents of the archive to a folder on the desktop, not just the contents of the driver folder
[04:18] <mohamedhamdy> Ok . Thank u
[04:19] <wilee-nilee> awc, So you have graphics till you login? did you ever have a Desktop, and if so any changes leading to this?
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> awc:  desktop loading, but unityu/compiz is not -  most likely due to video driver issues.   a dirty temp fix would be to intall a non unity desktop like xubuntu-desktop from the console. untill you cn figure out the driver issues.
[04:19] <mohamedhamdy> In  liber office I Can't use CTRL+C or CTRL+V ... etc when swithing from writing in English to any other language . any help?
[04:20] <Sorn> It shows my encrypted partition as being /dev/sdb5 and unlocked, however when i navigate to /dev there is no 'sbd5' folder? Im trying to access my encrypted volume. I thought there was a /private dir?
[04:20] <mohamedhamdy> In  liber office I Can't use CTRL+C or CTRL+V ... etc when swithing from writing in English to any other language . any help?
[04:20] <hitsujiTMO> jumfernandez: goto that directory, there should be an install.sh file there ... run that
[04:21] <mohamedhamdy> In  liber office I Can't use CTRL+C or CTRL+V ... etc when swithing from writing in English to any other language . any help?
[04:21] <awc> wilee-nilee, Dr_Willis: ctrl+alt+f1 gets me:  a short list of stuff, the last line of which says * Stopping startpar bridge for notification of upstart job start/stop
[04:21] <jumfernandez> ok ok
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> mohamedhamdy:  have a bit of patience befor flooding the channel. and there is a  libreoffice channel i i belive.
[04:21] <jmgk> hi Dr_Willis
[04:21] <awc> wilee-nilee, the problems started after upgrading to 13.10, I'm not sure what else I can tell you
[04:21] <Sorn> Maybe I have this wrong. I did a usb install with the alternative CD and chose a encrypted LVM. Does this mean the entire stick is encrypted? it asks for password to unlock the volume at startup.  If so, why do I see a 255mb ext2 partition? Is that a swap?
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> awc: alt-cgrl-f1 through f6 should get to the consoles.
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> awc:  or boot to text mode
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> !text | awc
[04:22] <wilee-nilee> awc, graphic drivers generally don't follow distro upgrades
[04:22] <Paulus68_1> mohamedhamdy: you can try this link http://askubuntu.com/questions/42659/how-to-switch-language-spellingcheck-on-the-fly-when-changing-keyboard-with-alt
[04:22] <Sorn> oh and btw wilee-nilee THANKS!! After doing that reset its no longer laggy and shitty, now its as responsive as its supposed to be :)
[04:23] <wilee-nilee> cool
[04:23] <jumfernandez> hitsujiTMO, yes appear a file name 'install.sh' but when i enter in the folder by bash and type install.sh command, still say the same 'command not found' :S
[04:24] <hitsujiTMO> jumfernandez: type: bash install.sh
[04:24] <grimeton> jumfernandez: chmod +x install.sh && ./install.sh
[04:24] <grimeton> jumfernandez: if the shebang doesn't point to bash you can get unexpected results
[04:25] <Sorn> So when i install ubuntu to USB with an encrypted LVM, its not technically a 'live usb' is it? Meaning, files will actually write to the OS portion and update, etc?
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> Sorn:  you can do a 'full' install to a usb flash drive. Ive done that dozens of times
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> Sorn:  but i dont use lvm ;)
[04:25] <awc> wilee-nilee, what do I need to do to see if the graphics drivers work or not? and or how to change to ones that will/the default driver as opposed to the nVidia ones?
[04:26] <user_corrupt> I downloaded and extracted eclipse into my downloads folder, is there a place that I should put the whole folder now that I want to run it?
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> user_corrupt:  make a script that cd's to the eclipse dir and runs it. would be the easy way
[04:26] <jumfernandez> hitsujiTMO, it's working the command, i'm waiting
[04:26] <wilee-nilee> awc, You just need to follow the original install of the ones that worked in the previous release you upgraded from, additional divers works for some.
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> user_corrupt:  and put that script in your path
[04:27] <jumfernandez> hitsujiTMO, 'The Setup Script is completed !'
[04:27] <hitsujiTMO> \o/
[04:27] <wilee-nilee> awc, You used the nvidia drivers from the ubuntu repo I assume.
[04:27] <awc> wilee-nilee, how do I get to them from the text only screen?
[04:27] <awc> yes
[04:28] <wilee-nilee> awc, That I'm not of but many are here, all my computers have been intel setups and have just worked.
[04:28] <wilee-nilee> sure of*
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> awc:  might be as simple as 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-current'
[04:29] <awc> wilee-nilee, thanks :) I'll pose a new question and hope someone can help me
[04:29] <hitsujiTMO> ok, jumfernandez: now gotta put your kernel on hold, otherwise an update will kill the driver: sudo apt-mark hold linux-image-generic
[04:29] <user_corrupt> Dr_Willis: so I should leave the folder in downloads and then make a script somewhere else?
[04:29] <wilee-nilee> I here those nvidia cards done be good, never had one
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> user_corrupt:  the folder can be anywhere you want
[04:29] <jumfernandez> hitsujiTMO, i need restart?
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> user_corrupt:  you just make the script go to the right place.
[04:29] <hitsujiTMO> after you do: sudo apt-mark hold linux-image-generic        restart
[04:30] <user_corrupt> Dr_Willis: I see, so that would be like my shortcut then
[04:30] <awc> I (think I) need to remove my nVidia drivers and use the basic drivers that come bundled with Ubuntu. What commands will I need to do this from the terminal/text login?
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> shortcut is a windows term. ;) Ubuntu has 'launchers' with .desktop extensions, and  your commands tht are in your PATH.
[04:31] <user_corrupt> Dr_Willis: I see, thank you
[04:34] <Gallomimia> oops. seem to have messed up my release upgrade when the display stopped drawing and i had to reboot... dpkg --configure -a results in further crashes due to a memory leak in process named /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/deja-dup/deja-dup-monitor
[04:35] <jumfernandez> hitsujiTMO ??
[04:36] <hitsujiTMO> jumfernandez: did you restart?
[04:36] <Sorn> Dr_Willis: I used the alternate cd install to install to usb, so im pretty sure it installed it as a 'full'
[04:36] <Sorn> guess i will know when i reboot if the files are still there hah
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> Sorn:  its live, or full. :)
[04:36] <hitsujiTMO> jumfernandez: did you?: sudo apt-mark hold linux-image-generic
[04:36] <Gallomimia> ah.... there it seems to have finally fixed it
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> live + persistant setup = uses a casper-rw file
[04:37] <Sorn> is there a easy way to minimze everything and show desktop?
[04:38] <speedy> Whenever I try to upgrade Ubuntu from 13.04 to 13.10 I get 403 error about apturl package
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> depends on the window manager/desktop Sorn  :) what one are ypu using?
[04:38] <Sorn> hrm, default?
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> I recall there being some way to add a show-desktop icon to the left side panel
[04:38] <Sorn> I dont know what its called
[04:38] <Gallomimia> Sorn there's an option to add a button like that to the default app-launcher on the left
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> default for xubuntu is xfce. ;) i dont know wht the alternative isntaller installed
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> alternatve cd is basically  a relic ;) its not availabel for the latst releases
[04:39] <Sorn> Yea, i needed encrypted lvm tho
[04:39] <speedy> is apturl required? Maybe I can remove the package and try the upgrade?
[04:39] <Sorn> didnt seem there was a easy way to do it except for alternative cd
[04:39] <jumfernandez_> hitsujiTMO i restarted
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> ive seen enough screwups in here with  lvm and encrypted stuff to avoide them
[04:40] <hitsujiTMO> ok, try these 2 commands now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6279833/
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> I chuckle when I see people doing that.
[04:41] <awc__> Thanks for the help wilee-nilee! My google-fu was effective. removing the nvidia drivers and installing nouveau was effective
[04:42] <jumfernandez_> ok
[04:42] <hitsujiTMO> getting anything now on the wifi?
[04:42] <wilee-nilee> awc__, Cool, thats what I hope for when I help is the right info for people to work it themselves, If I don;t have specifics.
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> good job. ;)
[04:44] <gd1110> Wondering there may be an Ubuntu Forum Mod or Admin here? Need assistance with an error message I keep getting (Noob here - be kind please :)
[04:44] <ChewGum> hi every one any can help me i want to install ubuntu on my andriod dual core cell phone
[04:44] <hitsujiTMO> ChewGum: #ubuntu-touch
[04:44] <Gallomimia> gd1110: you should send the error message and then someone who knows might see and help you out
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> ChewGum:  it will totally depend on your exact phone.. and its still very much a work in progress.
[04:45] <user_corrupt> so I have eclipse running, but now my problem is that top tool menu isnt working... file, edit, view, etc -- none of them drop down
[04:45] <kalakj> hello, everyone, I want that some specifice programs don't appear in unity dash , i tried alacarte, but alacarte is working in GNOME session, not in unity session, also, i don't want to uninstall them, i want that they just don't appear when a user type something like boot , how to do that
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> ChewGum:  webupd8 and omgubuntu detail the features of ubuntu on your phone and why most people WONT want it yet.
[04:45] <jumfernandez_> hitsujiTMO, i type de last command, and stay and nothing...
[04:45] <gd1110> Ty Gallomimia - will do
[04:45] <jumfernandez_> not respond anything hitsujiTMO
[04:45] <ChewGum> dr_willis can we talk on private
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> kalakj:  look at the apps .desktop file they can be set to show only on speifi desktops/window managers i belie
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> ChewGum:  I dont use ubuntu touch. and its not in a very useable state at this time.
[04:46] <Gallomimia> all the more reason to try it
[04:46] <TiZ> Hi. I installed laptop-mode-tools in Xubuntu, because I prefer it over xfce4-power-manager, but I feel like something is managing power settings at the same time as it. Whenever I plug my laptop in, I see a very brief flash of my screen going to my desired brightness, followed immediately by it going right back to where it was before. What sort of power management daemons come preinstalled?
[04:46] <kalakj> Dr_Willis: how to do that, where is apps.desktop file
[04:46] <Gallomimia> what else'll i put on my d2 tablet?
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> d2?
[04:46] <hitsujiTMO> jum, but is wifi doing anything ( networking icon in top right corner )
[04:46] <Gallomimia> ehm.... i don't know much else about it
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> Gallomimia:  i doubt if its supported if its some obscure tablet.
[04:47] <ChewGum> Dr_Willis thanks for ur advice please tel me how can i root my cell phone i dont know anything about rooting please can u guide me
[04:47] <ChewGum> Dr_Willis i have android 4.2 jelly beans
[04:47] <Gallomimia> it's got a 1ghz soc and a microsd card. 7" i got it cheap
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> ChewGum:  totally depends on the exact phone.  theres the #android channel
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> Gallomimia:  i doubt if itd supported if its not one of the few select SUPPORTED tablets/phones
[04:48] <jumfernandez_> hitsujiTMO, appear my wifi but with the other wifi usb i have... the wifi usb i need install not show a ligh or anything respond
[04:48] <karen> hello
[04:49] <Guest96409> I have having a problem similar to this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/143439/no-background-wallpaper-in-ubuntu-12-04-what-to-do
[04:49] <Guest96409> i am using ubuntu 12.04 lts
[04:49] <Guest96409> I just updated it and then after restarting that happens
[04:50] <Guest96409> not in ubuntu 2D though
[04:51] <Guest96409> any idea on how to solve this problem?
[04:51] <gd1110> Here is my problem - I go to http://ubuntuforums.org/ and clicked on the login.ubuntu.com link "For those new to the forum". I created an account with email verification but when I click the SSO login button I get a personal data request - I click the "Yes log me in" button and get the message "That username is already in use or does not meet the administrator's standards. If you are ****2 and you have forgotten your password, click here"
[04:51] <hitsujiTMO> jumfernandez_: crap: one other thing you can try and do is blacklist iwlwifi: echo "blacklist iwlwifi" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf       then restart, and then try the 2 commands again: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6279833/
[04:52] <emzi> salaam; I tried to upgrade to 13.10 via this command: "sudo do-release-upgrade ; sudo shutdown -h now" last night. this morning when I powered off the computer I got this error after grub: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6281051/
[04:52] <emzi> it is just a shell. when I runn: "ping 4.2.2.4", it responds: "connect: Network is unreachable"!
[04:52] <hitsujiTMO> jumfernandez_: if this doesnt work then i'm out of ideas
[04:53] <gd1110> Apologies for the long windedness all
[04:53] <jumfernandez_> okkk thanks really, i do...
[04:54] <jakemp> My computer locked up when I updated to 13.10
[04:54] <jakemp> now when I try to log in, I get a black screen.
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> tried textmode yet jakemp ?
[04:54] <ChogyDan> gd1110: that's the proper way to ask a question actually.  But, you may want to post in #ubuntuforums, or maybe just go to this address:  http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=123
[04:54] <jakemp> not familiar with textmode
[04:54] <jakemp> you mean a virtual terminal?
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> !text
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> virtual? :) the console is a real terminal.
[04:55] <jakemp> well, it's not a real terminal
[04:55] <Romance> Hello, laptop ubuntu 12.04, i have two usb wifi adapter, one is already connected to a wifi, and i want to make a hotspot thru it with the second usb wifi, how can i do this?
[04:55] <jakemp> real terminals are hardware specific consoles
[04:55] <emzi> #fedora
[04:55] <hitsujiTMO> gd1110: #ubuntu-website might be a more suitable channel for such a question
[04:55] <subcool> i am trying to copy my ubuntu to another drive, for the original is dieing. i am using this http://askubuntu.com/questions/3402/how-to-move-boot-and-root-partitions-to-another-drive/3417#3417 - i have done it before, without having to copy the drive as an imagine.. how do i do it? and i think smoeone showed me another better way. Maybe it was rsync? i forget..
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> id call those serial terminals. but whatever.
[04:56] <jakemp> so, I should just try to start the update again in a console?
[04:56] <Sorn> btw, is the encrypted LVM LUKS?
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> jakemp:  its very likely the updateis done. and its a mater of figureing out what  is not working. video drivers would be the common cause
[04:57] <TiZ> Hi. I installed laptop-mode-tools in Xubuntu, because I prefer it over xfce4-power-manager, but I feel like something is managing power settings at the same time as it. Whenever I plug my laptop in, I see a very brief flash of my screen going to my desired brightness, followed immediately by it going right back to where it was before. What sort of power management daemons come preinstalled?
[04:57] <jakemp> I removed xorg.conf already
[04:57] <gd1110> Apologies but I thought this IRC channel WAS for beginners which I am
[04:57] <jakemp> and nothing changed.
[04:57] <gd1110> Appreciate the links though
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> jakemp:  xorg.conf has not been needed by most sustems in ages. X auto configures for the most part.
[04:58] <emzi> Error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6281051/ ---> it occurred after upgrading to 13.10 (and restarting the sytem); it's not connected to internet. how to solve it?
[04:58] <gd1110> ChogyDan - is there a specific answer to this question at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=123 which you can point me to? I have searched - I'm not being lazy here
[04:58] <ChogyDan> subcool: rsync -aS is the command I know to copy files
[04:59] <q0> i'm looking for a minimal link/text grabbing utility with just a global hotkey I can set, a clipboard i can use between terminals and browser etc. ? and also grabbing from browser or any other app possible ?
[04:59] <jakemp> tried apt-get update. it gave an error and a dpkg reconfig command to type. trying that now.
[04:59] <Sorn> When applying all the updates im getting a low space warning. I have it installed on a 8GB stick. It created a 255mb ext2 partition.....is this the OS partition? I thought that it would just create one large encrypted partition and have everything stored there??
[04:59] <ChogyDan> gd1110: no, it is just the place to ask about login issues (according to the page)
[04:59] <ChogyDan> and #ubuntuforums
[04:59] <apb> Does anyone here use "CopyCmd" ?
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> Sorn:  that may be a uefi/boot partion
[05:00] <ChewGum> #android-root
[05:00] <ChewGum> any one help me how to join this chennal #android-root
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> Sorn:  8gb will barely be useable for a ubuntu system. ive done it befor on 8gb. but its tight. 16gb works decently well.
[05:00] <Sorn> Hrm sorry, now looking at disk usage analyzer it says 'total filesystem capacity is 3.9gb
[05:00] <Dr_Willis>  ChewGum  /join #channelname
[05:01] <hitsujiTMO> Dr_Willis: efi boot must be fat32 afaik
[05:01] <ChewGum> dr_willis when i try to join it says == #android-root Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[05:01] <Romance> Hello, laptop ubuntu 12.04, i have two usb wifi adapter, one is already connected to a wifi, and i want to make a hotspot thru it with the second usb wifi, how can i do this?
[05:01] <subcool> ChogyDan, but an entire root directory
[05:02] <apb> ChewGum: You need to register your nick.. ask in #freenode how to do that
[05:02] <gd1110> I understand that - however I have already gone in circles on that same page and via all the links provided for over 2 hours now - if I put in a support request via the drop down options nothing happens either
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> ChewGum:  so.. youneed to identify like the error message says
[05:03] <jmgk> hi Dr_Willis
[05:03] <apb> Anyone using a Cloud backup service?
[05:03] <gd1110> I have used Dr. Google and tried to find a solution however I am pulling teeth
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> moo jmgk
[05:03] <jmgk> lol
[05:05] <subcool> im pretty tired, ill do this tmo.
[05:13] <wagonboi> how do I prevent the packages of LXDE-core from starting at boot?
[05:14] <ghoti> wagonboi: `dpkg -r ..` ?
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> wagonboi:  boot to text mode?
[05:14] <ghoti> wagonboi: If there's a startup script, it's probably in /etc/rc[23].d/*
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> what packages do you mean exactly
[05:15] <wagonboi> http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/lxde-core
[05:15] <wagonboi> The ones that start to provide a GUI. I have a server but only want Lxde to start when I want to use VNC
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> wagonboi:  so... dont start up lightdm/X
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> thats what text mode does..
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> then you can ssh-in and run whatever vncserver you want
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> you are stoping 'X' from starting. ;) not lxde. since X starts up LXDE
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> well Lightdm fits in there somewhere also.
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> !text
[05:18] <wagonboi> it's my first VPS and I'm trying to keep things as light as possible, but I'm going to have to upgrade. Currently have 256mb ram
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> You dont need to run a full desktop at all. You can ssh in and use X forwarding. run speicifc gui apps
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> perhaps tell us the end goal here.
[05:19] <wagonboi> just messing around. I want to see if I can run a Windows XP VM inside a Linux VPS
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> cant say i see the point in that.
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[05:20] <wagonboi> it keeps me off the streets :)
[05:21] <root_worm> hello i am getting error while running vmaware workstation 7.1.3, it says Unable to build kernel module.  See log file /tmp/vmware-root/setup-5799.log for details.
[05:21] <root_worm> help me
[05:25] <kalakj> hello, everyone, I want that some specifice programs don't appear in unity dash , i tried alacarte, but alacarte is working in GNOME session, not in unity session, also, i don't want to uninstall them, i want that they just don't appear when a user type something like boot , how to do that, Dr_Willis , i was not able to to that
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> look at the apps  whatever.desktop file yet?  ie:  gedit.desktop
[05:26] <Sorn> btw alt tab has a show desktop
[05:27] <Sorn> that solves that :P
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> i rarely need to see the desktop. ;) theres nothing on it.
[05:27] <Sorn> Im still confused about the free space. I have a 7.5 encrypted LVM but the file disk analyzer says I only have 3.2 GB?
[05:27] <wilee-nilee> kalakj, boot is easily accessible otherwise, I would consider this.
[05:28] <kalakj> wilee-nilee: I don't want them to remove, i just want to hide them from dash search result, like super boot manager
[05:28] <kalakj> wilee-nilee: we can access these programs via command line also
[05:29] <kalakj> unity is much better then GNOME, in terms of accessibility
[05:29] <wilee-nilee> kalakj, sure, just trying to understand the reasoning if this is all.
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> you could just move the whtever.desktop file  to some directory - then there wont be an icon/menu item for the app for anyone. ;)
[05:29] <kalakj> wilee-nilee: I don't want other users to mess up with boot, even admin
[05:30] <kalakj> wilee-nilee: I am trying to make a system for average user who has no prior knowledge of linux
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> if a person has admin rights.. theres worse things they can do than mess up the booting.
[05:30] <wilee-nilee> kalakj, If they have admin the dash is the least of the problem is all.
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> remove the whatever.desktop => no menu item, no dash search hits for the app.
[05:31] <ablne> .
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> has tobe ran from the terminal, or from the directory you put the .desktop file in.
[05:31] <kalakj> Dr_Willis: where are the desktop file situated
[05:31] <Helpplease> Sigh Startup disk creator just sucks on ubuntu 13.04! I am really frustrated!
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> kalakj:  'locate gedit.desktop'
[05:31] <kalakj> Dr_Willis: yes, i want exactly the same
[05:31] <ablne> مستخدم عربي لنظام لينوكس
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> i mentioned the .desktop files like an hr ago. ;)
[05:32] <Tankado> Hello, i am using Ubuntu 12.04 i cleared all my history and deleted all cookies but still when i go into Gmail and i press the user name the password is being auto completed, how can i remove the password from the browser memory?
[05:32] <Tankado> using Firefox 24.0
[05:32] <wilee-nilee> Helpplease, there are handfuls of usb loaders to choose from.
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> they define  whts in the menus
[05:32] <Helpplease> I have never had any luck with that program. I am trying to make a bootable pendrive with ubuntu 13.10 and startup disk creator is terrible!
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> Helpplease:  pendrivelinux web site has a dozen+ tools
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> Helpplease:  or you can use dd to image the iso straight to the flash
[05:32] <Helpplease> unetbootin is able to boot but after isntallation I have several bugs like drivers missing
[05:33] <root_worm> anyone has solution
[05:33] <wilee-nilee> Helpplease, It only runs ubuntu iso's as well
[05:33] <Helpplease> what is dd?
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> the usb maker tool will not affect what drivers are installed into the instlled system
[05:33] <Tankado> Helpplease : man dd
[05:33] <sharpwang> hi all
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> if you have to aks what 'dd'is  - then you really shouldentbe  using dd. ;)
[05:33] <Helpplease> I really wish pendrivelinux would be available for ubuntu
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> dd lets you write raw data to a file/device
[05:33] <wilee-nilee> I know what it is and don't risk it
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> Helpplease:  huh? pendrielinux site has tools that work in  Ubuntu
[05:34] <Helpplease> universal usb installer is not avaiable for ubuntu
[05:34] <Drink_Crow> I have only one real question at the moment while I'm waiting on .iso files to download. Has there been any fix yet to the nVidia proprietary software issue with the where you can't log in due to GPU lock?
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> i tend to use the 'multisystem' tool
[05:34] <Helpplease> YUMI can be used?
[05:34] <wilee-nilee> +1 on multisystem
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> Helpplease:  theres more then juat that one tool... they even have by hand guides...
[05:35] <Helpplease> @Dr_Willis so YUMI can be used?
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> multisystem is a bit overkill
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> Helpplease:  IS it a linux tool? if not.. find a linux tool at the site
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> or try it in wine
[05:35] <Helpplease> I tried it in wine
[05:35] <wilee-nilee> I have a stick full of ISO's so I like it for that
[05:35] <Helpplease> it was a disaster
[05:35] <Helpplease> it got stuck
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> so try a differnt tool..
[05:36] <Helpplease> Tried virtual box
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> such as that MultiSystem tool we have been mentioning
[05:36] <Helpplease> Virtual box cannot even detect the pendrive
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> vbox needs setup to access real usb flash drives
[05:36] <Helpplease> Asking for extension package. when i download and try to install the extension package some error i dont understand keeps popping up
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> !vbox
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> but you dont need vbox for this
[05:37] <Helpplease> Does Startup disk creator have problems with kingston pendrives?
[05:37] <wilee-nilee> Helpplease, Is the error not being in the virtualbox group?
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> Helpplease:  ive not had issues with kingston
[05:37] <help_me> someone asked earlier how to build linux from scratch, besides me...
[05:37] <Helpplease> I didnt install it as root
[05:37] <Helpplease> maybe thats why
[05:37] <help_me> I don't know if this will help but I found this: http://susestudio.com/
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> help_me:  it gets asked about once or twice a week in here. and on  the askubuntu.com site i imagine
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> help_me:  suse studio supports ubuntu?
[05:38] <Helpplease> Nobody seems to have that much of a problem with startupdisk creator. I have never successfully created a usb startup disk with startupdisk creator
[05:38] <help_me> no no no... but you can make a distro close to ubuntu... let me see if they do actually
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> there used to be some web-based ubuntu customizer. but i think they went out of busuness a few year bck
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> was a neat idea reallyu
[05:39] <help_me> no, suse doesn't support ubuntu.... Yeah just figured... that may get them started... then they can figure out from there what needs to be done...
[05:40] <help_me> it's a beautiful thing...
[05:40] <help_me> I came across an ubuntu customizer earlier
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> http://www.reconstructor.org/   but its dead jim! ;(
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> it was a handy tool/site
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/howto-customized-live-dvds-reconstructors-web-ui?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+linuxjournalcom+%28Linux+Journal+-+The+Original+Magazine+of+the+Linux+Community%29
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> Now that would be cool - if  it got re-incarnated. ;)
[05:43] <help_me> reconstructor is a software...
[05:43] <help_me> please see : http://www.xmarks.com/site/build.reconstructor.org/
[05:44] <help_me> also I found something called Ubuntu-Builder
[05:44] <help_me> earlier this evening
[05:44] <help_me> :))
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> problem seems to be a lot of those tools break, or quickly become unsupported.
[05:45] <help_me> ubuntu builder hasn't broken and it's a great tool
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> but i havent bothered building my own disrto in ages.. well.. sice reconstcitror.org died.
[05:45] <help_me> ***Download the source****
[05:45] <help_me> will you help me build a distro Dr_Willis?
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> help_me:  i doubt if i can be much help
[05:46] <ghoti> I've got an ancient hardy box that I need to get receiving syslog from other hosts on the LAN.  Using tcpdump, I can see the traffic coming into the nic, but nothing's getting logged.  I've added "-r" as an option to syslogd.  Any idea what I might be missing?
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> you got 'ubuntu builder' what more do you need help_me ?
[05:46] <jmgk> hi ghoti
[05:47]  * ghoti waves to jmgk 
[05:47] <jmgk> ghoti:  where are you from again?
[05:47] <jmgk> I see you here before
[05:47] <jmgk> US right?
[05:47] <jmgk> I saw*
[05:47] <jmgk> :p
[05:48] <ghoti> jmgk: I'm .ca ... I usually lurk here.
[05:48] <jmgk> ah
[05:48] <jmgk> cool
[05:48] <help_me> that's why I need your help Dr_Willis
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> !find gambas
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> sudo gdebi ubuntu-builder_2.4.2-1_all.deb
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> This package is uninstallable
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> Dependency is not satisfiable: gambas2-runtime
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> no gambas2 in 13.10  it seems
[05:50] <help_me> oh yes there is Dr_Willis!
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> apt-cache search gambas2
[05:50] <help_me> google search gambas2 .deb
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> shows nothing
[05:50] <help_me> GOOGLE
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> i will pass on having to download lots of .deb from sites for tools that are not in the repos.  I test out to much stuff as it is.
[05:51] <help_me> http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/i386/gambas2-runtime/download
[05:51] <help_me> http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gambas2/
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> lucid? err.. thats like 3+ yrs old.
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> and using Debian packages.. is an even worse idea
[05:51] <help_me> https://launchpad.net/~nemh/+archive/gambas/+build/3391886
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> http://code.google.com/p/ubuntu-builder/downloads/list   says its using Gambas 3
[05:52] <help_me> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+source/gambas2
[05:52] <os2finn> I have macbook air with Ubuntu 12.10
[05:52] <help_me> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/saucy/gambas2/saucy
[05:53] <os2finn> Problem is that OpenGL does not worl
[05:53] <os2finn> k
[05:53] <os2finn> How can I solve this?
[05:53] <help_me> define does not work os2finn
[05:53] <ravionrails> is there any shortcut for navigating gnome-terminal tabs
[05:53] <help_me> gnome-terminal has TABS??
[05:53] <os2finn> Ie totem says:
[05:54] <sandeepr_ltp> good morning
[05:54] <os2finn> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:54] <os2finn> (totem:4846): Clutter-CRITICAL **: Unable to initialize Clutter: Failed to connected to any renderer:
[05:54] <os2finn> XServer appears to lack required GLX support
[05:54] <SuperLag> geez...
[05:54] <os2finn> And if I select GL screensaver preview that does not show
[05:54] <SuperLag> isn't LTS supposed to be *more* stable that newer versions?
[05:54] <sandeepr_ltp> i have a precise x64 os and want to monitor and capture performance data of the cpu, mem, io and network utilization
[05:54]  * ravionrails is away: no longer available to help
[05:54]  * ravionrails is back (gone 00:00:05)
[05:55] <meatmanek> superlag: stable in the sense of not changing much
[05:55] <help_me> use hwinfo sandeepr_ltp
[05:55] <sandeepr_ltp> how can i start this
[05:55] <help_me> :)
[05:55] <ravionrails> help_me, CTRL + SHIFT + T
[05:56] <meatmanek> hi everyone, anybody know why only linux-image-generic kernels get backported to precise?
[05:56] <help_me> because your computer is extremely upset with you??
[05:57] <sandeepr_ltp> hwinfo is to get the hw information right. how would it serve my requirement?
[05:57] <help_me> lol, jk
[05:57] <leonid> ravionrails: Ctrl+PgUp/PgDn, Alt+1, Alt+2, Alt+3, etc.
[05:57] <help_me> hang on sandeepr_ltp
[05:58] <ravionrails> thanks leonid , i think i forgot this, one more Q, want to view pwd in title of terminal
[05:58] <help_me> sandeepr_ltp use saidar
[05:58] <help_me> sudo apt-get install saidar
[05:59] <ravionrails> i google it but found nothing useful
[05:59] <meatmanek> put another way, why aren't the -server kernels backported to precise?
[05:59] <help_me> to run it sandeepr_ltp, type saidar in terminal
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> i was thinking the -server kernels were getting slowly phased out.
[06:01] <meatmanek> Dr_Willis: I know at least in lucid, only the -server kernel supported some of the hardware we run, like boxes with many cores
[06:01] <help_me> tells you loads, idle percent, cpu system, cpu user, mem total, mem used, mem free swap total, swap used, swap free, mem used, swap used, total used, paging in, paging out, zombie, total, no. users, running, sleeping, stopped, disk name, read, write, network interface rx tx lo, eth0 wlan0 mount point....
[06:01] <meatmanek> at least, if I'm recalling correctly
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> i dont see a kernel-server specific kernel in 13.10 at all
[06:01] <tozen> hi all! does anybody tried trusty already?
[06:01] <help_me> is that what your looking for sandeepr_ltp?
[06:01] <leonid> ravionrails, i have pwd in title of terminal by default. did not do anything special
[06:01] <sandeepr_ltp> help_me, i'm going through saidar
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> I thought all the features of the  server kernel got rolled into the standard generic kernel
[06:02] <meatmanek> ah
[06:02] <meatmanek> http://askubuntu.com/questions/122493/why-is-12-04-removing-the-server-kernel-flavour
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> now ya know. ;)
[06:02] <help_me> I want to install ubuntu server ontop of ubuntu 13.04 and ubuntu studio
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> its been assemlated like a dalek!
[06:02] <help_me> can I do this?
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> help_me:  'on top of' meaning what exactly?
[06:03] <nerdy_indian> using ubuntu 13.10 live cd , i am not able to scroll down using the touch pad facility on my lenevo g580 laptop
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> the core of the ubuntu server and ubuntu desktop  systems are basically the same.
[06:03] <help_me> well, DR_Willis, I mean INSIDE ubuntu 13.04, not ALONG SIDE, but INSIDE
[06:03] <help_me> like I did with ubuntu studio
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> help_me:  'INSIDE" is also a little vague.. you mean in a Virtual Machine>
[06:03] <help_me> earlier today
[06:03] <help_me> no no o
[06:04] <help_me> no
[06:04] <FloodBot1> help_me: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:04] <help_me> I installed ubuntu studio inside ubuntu 13.04... so studio is inside 13.04
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu-studio is just a set of packages installed on ubuntu  i recall.
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> thteres no inside or not.. You instlled the same packages that would bne installed on a normal ubuntu-studio install
[06:04] <help_me> well, it gives me a boot splash screen and stuff... and has it's own desktop
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> there is really no similer thing for a ubuntu server
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> if you install kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop you pull in all their packages as well
[06:05] <help_me> ok... Dr_Willis: How would I upgrade from ubuntu 13.04 to ubuntu enterprise?
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> cant recall ever seeing the term 'ubuntu enterprise' used either..  where is that term comming from?
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> unless its some specialized business variant.
[06:06] <help_me> give me a sec Dr_Willis
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> most busineses would be sticking to the LTS releases i imagine.
[06:06] <leonid> ravionrails, any program you run in terminal, can change title though... so hard to tell. at least bash sets it to your $PS1. you can start from here.
[06:07] <tripelb> what I want is a small simple program to.chop a.poece off a misoc track to.use as a rimgtone. what i have now doesnt get my attention or is obnoxious (classic bell, rooster)
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> ravionrails:  bash via the PS1 bash prompt can set the title for some terminal emulators.. some terminal emulators can also change the title, or apps like weechat can change the title.
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> tripelb:  avidemux perhaps.
[06:08] <tripelb> 12.94 2002 aka slow computer.
[06:08] <audrey> sudo aptitude --purge reinstall linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils linux-image-`uname -r` linux-ubuntu-modules-`uname -r` libasound2
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> i got a dozen apps on my android phone that lets me edit mp3 files into ringtones. ;)
[06:08] <tripelb> Dr_Willis: will check for it.
[06:08] <ipierceyou> hello. im hoping someone here might beable to give me a hand with getting my ethernet controller up and running. im running Comfusion 4.1 which is based off ubuntu. my ethernet controller is the Intel i-217v ethernet controller which on on the new gigabit z87-ud3h Mbo.  the device id displayed via lspci is intel 82540EM rev02
[06:09] <boomerman> Hey so I'm undergoing some business involving an old laptop, an old version of Ubuntu (11.10), and a Broadcom wireless driver---I have a USB, no wireless connectivity, and firmware-b43-installer and b43-fwcutter all have dependencies that I can't feasibly meet on their current packages:  Where can I find firmware-b43-installer and b43-fwcutter packages that would have dependencies met with out-of-the-box 11.10, by chance?
[06:09] <boomerman> (Also I cannot connect to wired, network manager issue maybe? I don't know)
[06:10] <tripelb> Dr_Willis: old android phone. no room. o keep tryo g to.learn to backup.so.then i can learn to.flash a rom amd get rid of the virgin bloateare but still uncertain how. want to backup.muself
[06:10] <tripelb> f no app
[06:12] <help_me> http://www.canonical.com/sites/default/files/active/Whitepaper-UbuntuEnterpriseCloudArchitecture-v1.pdf @ Dr_Willis
[06:12] <tripelb> Dr_Willis: avudemux is a VIDEO editor
[06:12] <andry> ipierceyou, what about "sudo ifconfig"? does it show up?
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> tripelb:  ive used it for audio files
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> since most videos have an audio track i recall.
[06:12] <help_me> http://130.226.142.177/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Guidelines-to-Private-Cloud-Companion-BookLet-2.pdf @ Dr_Willis
[06:12] <ipierceyou> tried that. only displays l0
[06:12] <andry> "sudo ifconfig eth0 up" does what?
[06:13] <ipierceyou> no such device
[06:13] <help_me> ipierceyou type ifconfig
[06:13] <andry> okay, can you "cat /var/log/syslog | grep -i eth" and post it to pastebin?
[06:13] <help_me> tell me the list of devices you have
[06:13] <nerdy_indian_log> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html                            i am not able to create a live dvd of ubuntu using debootstrap
[06:13] <ipierceyou> sure hold on a moment.
[06:13] <andry> okay :)
[06:13] <nerdy_indian_log> andry that is for you
[06:14] <help_me> should say something similar to eth0, lo, wlan0
[06:14] <jellyfish7> I am trying to create my own alternative ubuntu install
[06:14] <jellyfish7> I want to start with using gnome-shell instead of unity
[06:14] <andry> and, ipierceyou, "lsmod | grep -i e1000" should show ouput, does it?
[06:14] <jellyfish7> is that as simple as editing the ubuntu.seed
[06:14] <jellyfish7> # Install the Ubuntu desktop.
[06:14] <jellyfish7> tasksel	tasksel/first	multiselect ubuntu-desktop
[06:15] <help_me> nerdy_indian_log that's okay... I accidentally removed dnsmasq-base once
[06:15] <jellyfish7> from ubuntu-desktop to gnome-shell?
[06:15] <help_me> I had to install about 50 packages by hand just to get the network back up and functioning.
[06:15] <help_me> then I had to re-install network-manager and network-manager gnome when I got it up
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> jellyfish7:  sure its not ubuntu-gnome-desktop ?
[06:16] <help_me> sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop gnome
[06:16] <help_me> :)
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> jellyfish7:  why not just use the ubuntu-gnome iso ?
[06:16] <jellyfish7> can I do it in a preseed?
[06:16] <help_me> logout, and select your gnome
[06:16] <jellyfish7> I can do it all the manual way
[06:16] <jellyfish7> but want to create an install disk with gnome and all the developer tools we use
[06:17] <help_me> I...Like...Big..... Butts and I cannot lie
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> liar.
[06:18] <Anonynimity> liar huh?
[06:18] <nerdy_indian_log> help_me say this to https://www.healthtap.com , not here please.
[06:18] <Anonynimity> :_)
[06:18] <nerdy_indian_log> Anonymity is a hacker , i understand.
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> it is?
[06:18] <Anonynimity> far from it nerdy_indian_log
[06:19] <Anonynimity> I do the exact opisite of hacking
[06:19] <nerdy_indian_log> cracking
[06:19] <Anonynimity> I secure my linux system, and my windows system
[06:19] <nerdy_indian_log> i am not a pro not even a noob.
[06:19] <Anonynimity> and other's systems too... I don't hack
[06:19] <jellyfish7> maybe I should just write a puppet script
[06:19] <jellyfish7> isntall ubuntu and have the script do all the packages, downloads, etc
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> jellyfish7:  thats what i tend to do. Just a simple scrupt to setup my new installs how i like
[06:20] <nerdy_indian_log> how do i create a customised live cd , debootstrap is not working properly.
[06:20] <jellyfish7> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch
[06:20] <jellyfish7> <- nerdy
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> seems its  'how do i remaster my own disrto' week this week
[06:20] <boomerman> I have the packages for 11.10 that don't seem to have any unmet dependencies.  I open the .deb files in software center, but Install is greyed out.  What do I do?
[06:21] <Anonynimity> if someone knows the answer nerdy_indian_log they will respond. Please be patient. if you don't recieve a response, please ask again in a reasonable amount of time. thank you.
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> boomerman:  what reelase are you installing them in?
[06:21] <boomerman> @ Dr_Willis I just want the distro I have so I can upgrade and take my computer back.
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> huh?
[06:21] <boomerman> @Dr_Willis 11.10 of all distros.  They're version 14.9
[06:21] <boomerman> er, 14-9
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> you can use dpkg -i foo.deb to install the debs
[06:21] <boomerman> I was responding to what you said before you said my name, Dr_Willis
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> im not sure if 11.10 had gdebi ;) my fave tool
[06:22] <boomerman> Woo!
[06:23] <andry> ipierceyou, still there?
[06:23] <andry> :D
[06:25] <Anonynimity> I found Nora Clayton
[06:25] <Anonynimity> :))
[06:26] <Mobuntu> hi gang. I have a problem with the network manager on my laptop
[06:28] <ghg> Ubuntu is displaying a bigger screen than my TV, and the edges are being 'cut off', is there any way I can remedy this?
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> ghg:  thats the 'overscan' setting on most tv's
[06:28] <Mobuntu> I m with 13.10, when I open the lid of my laptop to relog to Ubuntu the network manager is desactivated.. so I have to open a terminal and do a sudo service network-manager restart to restore the manager
[06:28] <nerdy_indian_log> where do i submit bugs ?
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> some tvs have menu items to disable overscan. or some video card/drivers (nvidia and ati) special tools have overscan setting also to tweak
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> !bug | nerdy_indian_log
[06:29] <nerdy_indian_log> i don't have any technical information.
[06:29] <ghg> Dr_Willis: Should I be looking in my TV settings? I've been through them once and have found no 'overscan' setting.
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> ghg:  it might be calles somthing else. or the tv may not have the setting
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> ghg:  ive seen higher end tv's thathave the feature and low end ones that dont.
[06:29] <ghg> Dr_Willis: Mine is a 32" LCD, it's probably over 5 years old now though
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> ghg:  the raspberry-pi i play with - has  a lot of tweaks for dealing with overscan. ;) so thats how i learned about it.
[06:30] <ghg> Dr_Willis: So is this something I can change through my Ubuntu settings?
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> I recall the ati config tool had a overscan setting .
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> not really notifed it on  my nvidia cards.
[06:30] <ghg> I'm using a Mac Mini which has an in-built nvidia card
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> seems to me a lot of newer tv's are becomming more and more compute-monitor like. :) so dont have the overscan stuff
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> look in the nvidia settings tool perhaps
[06:31] <ghg> Where abouts would I find that?
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> type nvidia-settings
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> or search themenus
[06:32] <zypeh> does anyone tried install steam for linux ?
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> askubuntu.com should have some info about overscan also
[06:32] <ghg> Hmm, when I searched nvidia in settings nothing came up
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> zypeh:  lots of us use it
[06:32] <ghg> Ok, I'll head there in a second
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> ghg:  the app name is 'nvidia-settings'
[06:32] <blurkis> is there any opensource webserver/program(?) that works somewhat like a community? that is,  members-login, post message to each other etc?
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> thats the nvidia control panel app
[06:32] <ghg> Oh, one second
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> blurkis:  sounds like one of the old Bulliten bord sstems
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> systems
[06:33] <Anonynimity> lol
[06:34] <ghg> So I typed nvidia then nvidia-settings in dashboard and got no results
[06:35] <jellyfish7> how do you deal with prompts from isntalls?
[06:35] <jellyfish7> my script wont respond. :(
[06:35] <andry> depends on what you want to do jellyfish7
[06:36] <blurkis> Dr_Willis, well, i was more thinking in terms of community a'la facebook..  but not that advanced. just basic  user-login, messages etc.
[06:36] <andry> expect, or '< echo "bla"' or "debconf-set-selections"
[06:36] <wylde> blurkis, buddypress?
[06:36] <tripelb> Dr_Willis: so i can use avidemux to take the audio oit of a youtube video. that is after I dind out how to get it onto my computer and then how to tien thw flv format into.something the program can work with. // aeg, i want to take the forst 20 secomds of a beatles song on yoitube amd put it in am mp3 for a ri.gtone or alarm. // i do npt wamt to.reinvent the steam engine. // she holds head in hands.
[06:37] <Cifer> i try to create a share called "Software" that i want readaccessible by all users -
[06:38] <boomerman> Hey Dr_Willis I'm back.  And I have a new problem.  Apparently I have a different firmware, firmware-b43-lpphy-installer is what I needed, but when I extract it tries to wget the actual broadcom driver from a website---yet it simply can't.  Because I have no wireless connection, nor internet connection.
[06:38] <boomerman> I'm stuck.
[06:38] <blurkis> wylde, will have a look. thanks
[06:38] <Cifer> and only writeable by me - the problem is even with a wrong account/guest account i am stuck in a enter password loop
[06:39] <jellyfish7> so for mysql server install
[06:39] <jellyfish7> where it prompts for the root password a few times
[06:39] <jellyfish7> '< echo "password"'
[06:39] <andry> jellyfish7, i did this like that: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7739645/install-mysql-on-ubuntu-without-password-prompt
[06:40] <tripelb> Dr_Willis: roo much
[06:40] <jellyfish7> thanks andry!
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> boomerman:  best thing i ever did - was get a $10 edimax wifi dongle that worked out of the box with linux. lets me get all the files/other drives i need
[06:41] <tripelb> Dr_Willis: Too much. To sleep. yhanks but good to know time to quit
[06:41] <boomerman> Can't *ever* get that, but thank you
[06:41] <andry> boomerman,
[06:41] <boomerman> what's up andry?
[06:41] <andry> download this http://downloads.openwrt.org/sources/broadcom-wl-4.178.10.4.tar.bz2
[06:41] <Anonynimity> My.Pen.Is.Erect
[06:42] <andry> and the deb for b43-fwcutter
[06:42] <andry> unpack the tar.bz2, go to the dir "broadcom-wl-4.178.10.4/linux" and run "b43-fwcutter -w "$FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR" wl_apsta.o"
[06:43] <andry> that is what the package "firmware-b43-lpphy-installer" does (postinst inside the deb)
[06:43] <boomerman> thank you
[06:43] <boomerman> i'mma try that out now, andry
[06:44] <andry> okay :) do you need help finding the deb for b43-fwcutter?
[06:45] <time1> hello everyone, i am having a annoying problem in ubuntu, i have a dual boot system and in ubuntu it ejects dvd drive tray, at random intervals, automatically, i inserted it four times, and it ejected 4 times, now it is okay, it happens to me at random intervals, my drive is okay, because it never happend to me while using windows and it always happen to me, when i log in to ubuntu, how to fix that problem, how to see the log file related to DVD tray messages
[06:46] <time1> although i don't use my dvd drive frequently but it should not pop up like that
[06:46] <time1> any idea
[06:46] <time1> what is happening
[06:47] <gordonjcp> time1: dmesg might show you something?
[06:47] <andry> boomerman, sorry, "sudo b43-fwcutter -w "/lib/firmware" wl_apsta.o"
[06:47] <time1> dmesg shows a very long list
[06:47] <andry> did copy the var :P
[06:47] <time1> how to see the stuff related to me
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> at the end when it ejects  time1 ...
[06:47] <time1> i am not a linux expert
[06:47] <gordonjcp> time1: dmesg | less, and scroll through
[06:47] <boomerman> oooh
[06:47] <boomerman> that would do it
[06:47] <gordonjcp> time1: look for stuff that looks related to the DVD drive
[06:48] <time1> Dr_Willis: thanks
[06:48] <gordonjcp> time1: it's a really, really weird problem
[06:48] <time1> let me see
[06:48] <gordonjcp> time1: as Dr_Willis says, do it right after it ejects
[06:48] <gordonjcp> time1: I bet it doesn't eject by itself any more, now that you want it to
[06:48] <sandeepr_ltp> i got htop, iptraf and iostat tools to monitor the system
[06:49] <sandeepr_ltp> how can i capture its data and plot a graph?
[06:51] <boomerman> andry I have internet, oh glory glory hallelujah, six months coming just cause I didn't have a flash drive
[06:51] <boomerman> Thank you so much, andry
[06:51] <boomerman> oh man thank you so much
[06:51] <andry> hehe no problem
[06:51] <andry> oops
[06:52] <boomerman> oh but now I can't log in because ubuntu doesn't want to DO WPA2
[06:52] <boomerman> fffffffffffudge
[06:52] <boomerman> Nope!  It worked!
[06:53] <andry> okay :)
[06:54] <apb> well... somebody messed up.  I used the update manager to update the kernel and related files... system won't boot.  I wouldn't be here if I didn't have a live CD prepared
[06:55] <wilee-nilee> apb, You try an earlier kernel in grub?
[06:56] <apb> wilee-nilee: I was running 20 minutes ago on an earlier kernel... then I updated it... not sure what you're asking.
[06:57] <wilee-nilee> apb, In the grub boot menu is the kernel you were using and the new one you installed in the update, try the one that worked. Do you have any proprietary drivers installed per-chance.
[06:59] <apb> wilee-nilee: I'm not sure what you mean by "proprietary"...  None of my hardware came with it's own drivers if that's what you're asking.  All of my hardware is pretty ancient for the most part.
[06:59] <Anonynimity> give me all of your money
[06:59] <Anonynimity> NOW
[06:59] <andry> okay
[07:00] <linu> hi i have been using minicom in my ubuntu pc for debugging the at91sam9x5e development boards,but in the minicom the logs has been displayed but when i give inputs the keyboard not working in  minicom even the hardware flow control options are also enabled for minicom,can you tell me what is that issues
[07:00] <wilee-nilee> apb, Did you install any graphic drivers from other than the ubuntu repos, or did it just work from the original install, these are really basic questions you should know.
[07:00] <floryn90> hi everyone
[07:01] <myndzi> how would i set up a separate virtual ethernet interface so that i can separate ipv4 from ipv6?
[07:01] <floryn90> i have an isue with software center
[07:01] <apb> wilee-nilee: Worked from original install as best as I remember.
[07:01] <floryn90> it doesn't save the settings
[07:01] <myndzi> i tried defining and configuring a static ip as eth0:1 in /etc/network/interfaces but when i restart networking it says it couldn't bring the interface up
[07:02] <r0b-> Hi, i have a Radeon HD5670 and whenever i attach 2 monitors after about 5-15 minutes both displays go "black" and the system is unresponsive. the PC works fine with 1 monitor. what could cause the issue with 2?
[07:02] <wilee-nilee> apb, Then try to bring up the grub boot menu, if it is a single install no others press the shift key as soon as you turn the computer on and hold it till you see grub and use the arrow keys to use the kernel that worked before the update.
[07:03] <apb> wilee-nilee: ok, thank you.  Yes, single install.  Anything else I should know?
[07:04] <wilee-nilee> floryn90, Can you explain does not save settings in detail?
[07:04] <wilee-nilee> apb, Not really lets try that and see if you boot in.
[07:04] <wilee-nilee> No*
[07:04] <apb> ok
[07:04] <apb> back in a few
[07:04] <wilee-nilee> cool
[07:04] <RobinJ> pingwing.servehalflife.com
[07:05] <RobinJ> oops
[07:05] <RobinJ> forgot the /server xD
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> I really hate how they hide grub by default on a single os install
[07:07] <floryn90> when i install a new app with software center
[07:07] <wilee-nilee> Heh, then we would see how do I hide grub.
[07:07] <radioiaaneg> salve ho installato ubuntu studio 13.10, vorrei fare sparire le linguette che indicano i monitor in uso che si dispongono in maniera disordinata e casuale su entrambi gli schermi in uso
[07:07] <floryn90> it install new app in the launcher on left
[07:07] <sam113101> Dr_Willis: I like it
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> easier to do that - then to try ti people how to UNHIDE it when they really really need to get to it
[07:08] <wilee-nilee> !es | radioiaaneg
[07:08] <wilee-nilee> true
[07:08] <floryn90> !it | radioiaaneg
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> floryn90:  it dosent do that for all apps here. (not seen it do it for many apps at all)
[07:09] <floryn90> Dr_Willis, in settings it's possible to disactivate this option
[07:09] <time1> gordonjcp:  here is my DVD Demsg content
[07:09] <floryn90> but when i restart software center that option is activated
[07:09] <time1> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6281505/
[07:09] <time1> gordonjcp: is there some problem with the drivers
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> cant say tihat i ever use software-center muh  floryn90 .
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> much. ;)
[07:20] <apb> wilee-nilee: Since I'm here.... I guess it worked.  Under "old kernels", I presume it's safe to say that the updated kernel would not be there correct?
[07:20] <wilee-nilee> apb, I believe so yes.
[07:20] <apb> ok then I guess I'm running on the old kernel
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> newest kernel should be the default outside the list
[07:21] <Anonynimity> what edition of ubuntu does law enforcement use?
[07:21] <apb> how can I look at grub w/out rebooting?
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> Anonynimity:  whtever one they want.
[07:21] <apb> /etc/grub.d has some stuff
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> grub is convigured by the /etc/default/grub file and whats in grub.d
[07:21] <linu> hi the inputs(keyboard) not working in the minicom, can you tell me what is that issues
[07:21] <Anonynimity> any idea where I would find a list of tools law enforcement would use on ubuntu?
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> then it gernates the /boot/grub/grub.cfg file from those
[07:22] <apb> ok ty
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> linu:  wht do you have minicom connected to?
[07:23] <apb> Yeah, this is the new kernel: 3.2.0-55-generic-pae
[07:24] <apb> and I picked 54 so I'm good
[07:24] <apb> question is... how do I make it go back to 54 w/out having to hit shift each time?
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> you could just remove the new kernel
[07:25] <Ben64> but you should figure out why the new one isn't working, as it likely fixes bugs and stuff
[07:25] <apb> Ben64: Beyond my skills I think
[07:25] <Ben64> probably not
[07:25] <apb> Ben64: It just hangs when I boot it... no text whatsoever
[07:26] <apb> a blinking cursor is all I get
[07:26] <apb> after the BIOS POST is done
[07:26] <Ben64> pastebin the output of "df -h"
[07:26] <apb> plenty of space if that's what you're asking
[07:27] <Ben64> could you pastebin it anyway
[07:27] <apb> sure :)  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6281571/
[07:29] <Ben64> ok, how about "lsmod; lspci; lsusb; ls -lh /boot/*55*"
[07:29] <apb> I should mention that I had an external drive by way of USB earlier I took out to get it to boot off the Live CD (it was a USB stick not a CD)
[07:29] <apb> ok hang on
[07:30] <stephans> Hi, I installed ubuntu 13:10 and was dismayed that google chrome, on of the most used browsers, did not install due to missing libraries. How can I fix this?
[07:30] <stephans> Did anyone even test it?
[07:30] <Ben64> stephans: if you use the google ppa, it should resolve all the dependencies
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> google is supposed to bne comming out with a fix stephans
[07:31] <apb> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6281581/
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> and it is aparently a 32bit only issue. and the beta version does work
[07:35] <apb_> testing
[07:38] <apb_> ok somebody say something so I know this is still working
[07:38] <Ben64> something
[07:38] <apb_> ty
[07:38] <Ben64> are you the same apb
[07:38] <apb_> every channel I'm in has gone silent.  lol
[07:38] <apb_> Yes
[07:38] <Ben64> !text | apb_
[07:39] <Ben64> try that on the 55 kernel, if that doesn't work, then idk
[07:39] <Ben64> everything else seems good
[07:41] <apb_> Oops! Cannot load https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text Mode
[07:43] <apb_> seriously... every channel is silent... including this one... is it me?
[07:44] <racho> apb_, what is you prob?
[07:44] <apb_> dunno.. but I'm scared
[07:44] <apb_> I've never seen it this quiet
[07:44] <apb_> ever
[07:45] <bazhang> !ot | apb
[07:45] <ihre> the calm before the storm, dont worry
[07:45] <apb> Does the above page come up for anyone else?
[07:46] <ihre> !guidelines
[07:46] <bazhang> yes
[07:46] <racho> apb, yes the page displays
[07:46] <apb> ty
[07:47] <linu> Dr_Willis, i just connected to at91sam9x5ek development board for debugging through serial port
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> linu:  from the old says of serial terminals and devices. I recall neeidng to turn 'echo on or off' depending on the devive. if it echoed back  character input. also had to fight many a day with the right bit/parity/baud settings
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> hm
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> for text mode you just edit the boot line from 'quiet splash' to be 'noquiet nosplash text'    ;)
[07:51] <apb> linu: 8N1 is the usual for many serial devices
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> the days of 8n1 baud rate of 300 ;) and xon/xoff ;)
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> zmodem vs xmodem debates
[07:51] <apb> zmodem was better
[07:51] <apb> lol
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> and when 'how do i get my winmodem working in linux' was the question of the day
[07:52] <RudyValencia> Hi, how do I add 1920x1080 to the supported resolutions in 13.10?
[07:52] <apb> I don't know... there may be something down between me and ubuntu.com because I'm not getting that page
[07:52] <mathfreak> What sort of software do I need to install on ubuntu 12.04 in order to play blu-ray?
[07:52] <apb> in fact, a few pages aren't coming up
[07:52] <RudyValencia> since there's now mir display server, where do I configure it?
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> mathfreak:  id have to say check on askubuntu.com - im not sure there is software to play them.
[07:53] <mathfreak> Thanks Dr_Willis
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> RudyValencia:  are you sure you are even using mir?
[07:53] <crocket> oh my god
[07:54] <RudyValencia> there's no xorg.conf.d in /etc/X11
[07:54] <apb> well, time to give the text boot a try.... back in a few
[07:54] <crocket> After upgrading ubuntu from 13.04 to 13.10 with software updater GUI on unity and rebooting, GUI menus look white!!!
[07:54] <crocket> many GUI elements look fucking weird.
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> RudyValencia: so? xorg.conf has been optional for well years
[07:54] <RudyValencia> so do I just follow the directions for other versions?
[07:54] <wilee-nilee> !language | crocket
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> !fixres
[07:55] <crocket> impossible.
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> RudyValencia:  weird that its not auto detecting. whats your video card? Monitor? how is it connected? what video driers are you useing?
[07:55] <RudyValencia> I'm using VMware Workstation 10
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> you did install the guest addations? or whatever vmware calls them?
[07:56] <Darkangel> who ever had problems Installing World of war craft on Wine?
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> checked the vmware ubuntu wiki pages?
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> !appdb | Darkangel
[07:56] <crocket> Why do many GTK2/3 themes break after upgrading ubuntu to 13.10?
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> perhaps its gnome 3.6 or whatever breaking them
[07:57] <RudyValencia> Dr_Willis: the official ones probably won't install, because vmware 10 came out before ubuntu 13.10
[07:57] <crocket> Dr_Willis, Perhaps, it's the upgrade that broke the distro.
[07:57] <crocket> online upgrade!!!
[07:57] <RudyValencia> I plan to use open-vm-tools
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> crocket:  try the same themes with a clean install and prove it i guess.
[07:58] <crocket> Dr_Willis, Do you want me to experiment with my company computer?
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> crocket:  you aparently allready have been.
[07:58] <crocket> damn
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> if its a theme breaking.. then select a differnt theme
[07:59] <crocket> Dr_Willis, Too many themes break, but some themes work.
[07:59] <apb> ok this is really weird...  I hit the SHIFT key on boot... it flashed the grub menu and just kept going... I'm running on 55 now.
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> ive heard of gnome releases constantlybreaking themes.. i tend to just use the default themes. or some from the webupd8 blog site ppa
[08:00] <crocket> Dr_Willis, From now on, I'll only do clean upgrades.
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> they tend to pick the best themes  for their ppa.
[08:00] <marandi> hi guys , i use this rule for my svn repository https://gist.github.com/rezamarandi/7096792 but i got this error when i restart apache : Unknown DAV provider: svn , what should i do ?
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> its very likely the themes would be broken with a clean install.
[08:02] <linu> apb, yes the 8N1 and 115200 baud rate,even it does not work
[08:02] <apb> linu: try 9600
[08:02] <crocket> Dr_Willis, Screw GNOME 3.
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> crocket:  whtever.
[08:02] <marandi> hi guys , i use this rule for my svn repository https://gist.github.com/rezamarandi/7096792 but i got this error when i restart apache : Unknown DAV provider: svn , what should i do ?
[08:03] <minimec> RudyValencia: I did a elementary OS install on vmware player. Running like charm... You need to install the 'open-vm-tools' package on the OS guest, and maybe modify the XY.xmx file of the virtual machine, to enable 3d Acceleration
[08:03] <RudyValencia> I already have the vmx set to enable 3d acceleration
[08:04] <minimec> RudyValencia: Oh. Ok.
[08:08] <RudyValencia> I can't figure out why there's no xorg.conf.d to add 10-monitors.conf into
[08:09] <Dr_Willis>  /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> got 8 files in that directory here on 13.10
[08:10] <_rsc`> hi
[08:11] <RudyValencia> oh, wait, I downloaded xubuntu lol
[08:11] <RudyValencia> no wonder it's not there
[08:11] <Ben64> xubuntu is still ubuntu
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> err. it should still be there
[08:11] <RudyValencia> it isn't
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> I got xubuntu, lubuntu, kubuntu and all the desktops on this box. ;)
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> try 'locate xorg.conf.d'
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> try 'locate xorg.conf'
[08:12] <RudyValencia> oh
[08:12] <Ben64> it really is though, the only difference is the DE
[08:12] <RudyValencia> /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[08:12] <RudyValencia> oops wrong place!
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> thats eactly where i posted earlier. ;)
[08:13] <RudyValencia> I was thinking of older versions then
[08:13] <that> gee i thought they were different locations too until i double checked them
[08:13] <RudyValencia> must have been a recent change
[08:14] <minimec> RudyValencia: Well... I don't know, why you want to add some special monitor configuration to a virtual machine, if afterwards you want the vmware-tools to handle the 'Monitor' automatically...
[08:14] <linu> hi i have used kernel-3.10,and enabled framebuffer but when i try to run a sample qt application in at91sam9x5ek board using same kernel that says http://pastebin.com/YZxgptL4   can you tell mw what is that issues
[08:15] <auronandace> linu: why are you running a kernel that is not in the official repos?
[08:15] <RudyValencia> well, I don't use that feature
[08:15] <Ben64> linu: i don't think we can support your ... gibberish board here, maybe try in #ubuntu-arm ?
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> is that bord even running ubuntu? ;)
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> I just play with raspberry pis. ;P
[08:16] <isbric> anyone got experiance with LDAP and making exceptions where a users shell is determened by a group?
[08:17] <minimec> RudyValencia: ?!? 09:57  RudyValencia : I plan to use open-vm-tools
[08:17] <isbric> "is it possible without bending over backwards"?
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> and doing a few backflips? ;)
[08:19] <apb> well this is interesting... my external drive is apparently no longer recognized/mounting
[08:20] <apb> is there anything other than "mountall" to do?
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> mount it by hand. look for error massages ;)
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> sudo mount /dev/XXX   yadda yadda
[08:20] <apb> plenty of error messages :/
[08:21] <ice9> what happened to sound in Ubuntu 13.10, there are noise and the quality is not the same
[08:21] <linu> auronandace because i got that from linux4sam gitrepository for arm boards
[08:22] <vlt> Hello. I installed the current Ubuntu release 13.10 with its default 3.11 (x86_64) kernel. When booting there’s a huge delay and a kernel msg starting with "bio:". Then eventually it drops to an initramfs shell b/c the root fs isn’t ready yet. I have to wait for the second "bio:" kernel msg. Then I can leave the drop shell and it continues to boot.
[08:22] <vlt> What is this? Problems initialising the IDE drives?
[08:23] <vsMS> Hi. I'm running 12.04 and found that I'm not longer able to get a valid keycode for <alt> + <f1> which should be F13. F13 - F20 are very important for me. Can someone help?
[08:23] <vlt> (The root fs is on an LVM volume which exists only when both PVs are present)
[08:23] <isbric> Dr_Willis: involving a slight breaking of neck to..
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> pain builds character
[08:24] <that> you mean to say that installing ubuntu built no character at all for me? :-P
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> for you... no.
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[08:25] <that> lol i see. i must admit it was the first painless installation of any linux distro i did
[08:26] <tozen> Hi all! Having issues with wifi adapter on my ASUS K53E noteboot. So I've got ZyXEL AMG1202-T10A installed at home it's works fine with all devices I've got at home excluding laptop. I mean smtms 1-2 times a day I'm forced to restart ZyXEL router after my Ubuntu 12.04.3 is up otherwise I have no connection totne Network. Other devices like iPhone or Android having connection in a same time. Here is pastebin of my network adapters: http://pa
[08:27] <makara> in a man page you can highlight/search for a term using: <forward slash><search string>
[08:27] <makara> but how to go to the next occurrence?
[08:27] <mathfreak> press 'N'
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> makara:  the man page uses the 'less' pager/ check the less man page for the keys
[08:27] <zend> Hello.
[08:28] <that> greetings zend
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> man page says '(press h for help) also ;)
[08:28] <zend> Can someone help me with installing the nvidia driver with ubuntu 31.10 from standart repos? :-)
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> COMMANDS
[08:28] <Dr_Willis>  Manual page less(1) line 18 (press h for help or q to quit)
[08:28] <apb> can't reach pastebin anymore
[08:28] <zend> nvidia-319-updates package..
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> apb:  can you paste bin the error you get? ;)
[08:28] <vlt> The "bio:" line also contains a "create slab <bio-1> at 1" and the second a "create slab <bio-2> at 2" part. Any idea what happens there and why it takes so long?
[08:28] <apb> my ISP is reporting a network problem
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> hehheh...
[08:29] <apb> so I guess I'm stuck until morning
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> pastebinit can use other paste sites
[08:29] <apb> yeah I was just thinking about ix.io
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> -b <pastebin url:default is 'http://paste.ubuntu.com'>
[08:30] <wild_oscar> hey. do you know how to find the launchpad bug created by an apport report?
[08:30] <apb> can't reach ubuntu.com
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> wild_oscar:  im not sure that every apport report makes a launchpad bug
[08:30] <apb> or ix.io
[08:30] <zend> I have an error: "Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.11.0-12-generic"... In /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-319-updates/319.60/build/make.log i see something like: "*Unable to determine the target kernel version". But!
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> look at the pastebinit script/ :) it mentions other paste sites it supports
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> "http://paste.debian.net" "http://fpaste.org"
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> and others
[08:31] <zend> linux-headers-3.11.0-12-generic is installed
[08:31] <apb> or google
[08:31] <zend> and...  linux-source-3.11.0 installed too :-)
[08:31] <makara> Dr_Willis, thanx. fyi: its the 'n' key
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> pastebinit -l  >> list all supported pastebins
[08:32] <apb> nice.  thanks for that
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> makara:  ;) just what the help file says.  the 'less' pager has a lot of features that are easy to overlook
[08:33] <apb> http://fpaste.org/48528/24307831/
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> apb:  so wgats the actual problem?
[08:37] <r_lex> hi
[08:37] <apb> my external drive doesn't mount.... and... just now I got a popup:  http://fpaste.org/48529/24310461/
[08:37] <chuprex> hello all
[08:37] <r_lex> after upgrade to recent non-lts release some of keybinds like ctrl+shift+T stopped working
[08:38] <chuprex> i need help about LIRC
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> apb:  i dont see how mountall is telling us much of anything. try mounting it by hand using the  'mount' command
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> i dont see how those messages relate to a hard drive either
[08:39] <apb> I don't know the usb device... ls /dev/usb shows "lp0"
[08:39] <apb> I don't know that they do... it simply popped up while we were chatting here now
[08:39] <apb> but it does in fact make me nervous
[08:39] <apb> why would an internal device suddenly disappear?
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> lp0 = would be a printer i belive
[08:40] <apb> yes
[08:40] <apb> but what that says to me is it's not recognizing the other usb port
[08:40] <apb> which it did earlier on 54
[08:41] <apb> and with internal devices disappearing.... well... this is not good
[08:42] <apb> my external drive is plugged into a usb port
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> does sudo blkid show the drive?
[08:43] <Ben64> what does dmesg say?
[08:43] <apb> sudo blkid made it spin up...
[08:44] <seedo> My ubuntu software getting uninstalled themselves
[08:44] <apb> and yes it sees it
[08:44] <seedo> someone help me understand ..
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> seedo: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[08:45] <tozen> Hi all! Having issues with wifi adapter on my ASUS K53E noteboot. So I've got ZyXEL AMG1202-T10A installed at home it's works fine with all devices I've got at home excluding laptop. I mean smtms 1-2 times a day I'm forced to restart ZyXEL router after my Ubuntu 12.04.3 is up otherwise I have no connection totne Network. Other devices like iPhone or Android having connection in a same time. Here is pastebin of my network adapters: http://pa
[08:45] <apb> now I have a device.. /dev/sdc1
[08:45] <apb> and it mounts
[08:46] <md_nfs> my network is not working which was working fine last time i shut it down 10 days ago
[08:46] <md_nfs> i am using ubuntu 12.04 desktop
[08:46] <chuprex> somebody can help me about LIRC
[08:47] <seedo> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[08:47] <md_nfs> i can see the network icon trying to get ip and connect but it is not able to connect and get local ip
[08:47] <apb> Ben64:  http://fpaste.org/48532/24316381/
[08:48] <Ben64> sdc
[08:48] <Hanumaan> Hello I am unable to login into the Ubuntu(unity) desktop ..and it loop backs when I enter my password .. tried unity --reset but did not helped any other solution ? or how to debug ?
[08:48] <apb> yes  ... sdc1
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> Hanumaan:  common issue and fix. is to remove the users .Xauthority file (via the login console)   that fixes the problem for a great many people
[08:49] <delinquentme> Good idea / Bad idea?  Upgrading my 12.04 linux kernel bc of graphics drivers being handled in a more standard way on linux kernel 3.9-rc1  while im at the default ( i think ) of 3.8.0-31-generic  on my 12.04 install
[08:49] <seedo> ActionParsnip: ??
[08:50] <xtriz> if in ubuntu live cd, i am adding any additional changes in /etc/fstab file can i make that changes persistent ?
[08:50] <delinquentme> back!
[08:50] <minimec> Hanumaan: <ctrl><alt>F1 , then login with your login/pass, then mv .Xauthority .Xauthority-old , exit <alt>F7, login.
[08:52] <apb> i'm starting to think someone fixed the dbus errors
[08:52] <seedo> My ubuntu software getting uninstalled themselves
[08:52] <seedo> someone help me understand ..
[08:52] <Hanumaan> Dr_Willis, minimec, tried that but did not worked .. what to see next ?
[08:53] <Hanumaan> is there any specific desktop that I have to be ? I mean unity or genome ?
[08:53] <Hanumaan> gnome*
[08:54] <md_nfs> please help me with my problem above
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> Hanumaan:  make a new user, see if the desktop works for them
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> Hanumaan:  if it DOES - that points to a setting issue with the prolem user
[08:54] <lkj> hi .i have a question there:http://askubuntu.com/questions/36%203552/keyboard-problem-with-13-10-in-dell-ispiron
[08:58] <mathfreak> md_nfs: When I get network issues, I usually just restart my router.
[08:58] <md_nfs> mathfreak, i have already tried that
[08:59] <md_nfs> mathfreak, another machine which is also connected to the same router is working fine
[08:59] <xtriz> if in ubuntu live cd, i am adding any additional changes in /etc/fstab file can i make that changes persistent ?
[09:00] <apb> well gents, thanks for the help... my head hurts, time for bed.
[09:01] <mathfreak> md_nfs: What other things have you tried?
[09:01] <md_nfs> mathfreak, changing the cables
[09:01] <ola2> im not able to get which dependenies are there for openjdk-7-jre
[09:02] <ola2> i wrote apt-cache rdepends openjdk-7-jre
[09:02] <ola2> but was not able to understand
[09:02] <md_nfs> mathfreak, restarted networking, ssh, openvpn,etc.
[09:02] <ola2> plz help
[09:03] <md_nfs> mathfreak, it has two ethernet cards i tried on other card too but it has same problem
[09:03] <ola2> plz give me this apt-get download openjdk-7-jre ...means all dependencies plz
[09:04] <Rory> ola2: What Ubuntu version?
[09:04] <minimec> ola2: http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/openjdk-7-jre
[09:08] <mathfreak> md_nfs: Are you using DHCP?
[09:08] <md_nfs> yes
[09:08] <ola2> minimec: i will give u money when my sallary increases
[09:08] <ola2> thank you
[09:09] <minimec> ola2: Oh nice, but who needs money, if the code is for free? ;)
[09:09] <ola2> o my god u dont understand joke hah
[09:10] <ola2> im making a tool
[09:10] <ola2> i will be giving deb packages to client
[09:10] <ola2> so he doesnot needs to download them from internte
[09:10] <ola2> so java is one of them
[09:11] <minimec> ola2: And I thought, that I was leading the joke to a further level. ;)
[09:11] <ola2> ok
[09:11] <ola2> now i understand
[09:11] <ola2> haha
[09:11] <ola2> thanks a lot u saved my time
[09:11] <minimec> ola2: no problem.
[09:12] <mathfreak> md_nfs: Honestly, I'm stumped.
[09:15] <mathfreak> md_nfs: Have you searched online for any potential issues with your cards?
[09:18] <md_nfs> mathfreak, no i dont think there is problem with the cards, how can both of them have problems
[09:18] <Guest43576> hi, I have already installed windows 7 on my 80 Gb HDD as on one partition that is 80Gb. Now can i boot from live kubuntu cd and resize the windows partition to 40Gb, make swap partition and a new ext4 partition, install kubuntu on it and still my windows partition data will remain as such with no harm done?
[09:19] <md_nfs> mathfreak, i dont know what to search as i am not sure what the problem is exactly
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> Guest43576:  i find it much faster to let windows resize its own partions
[09:20] <Guest43576> Dr_Willis,  windows can resize its own partitions? without loosing data? i thouogh it had to reformate it. THAT i DONT want
[09:20] <md_nfs> mathfreak, i searched for not able to connect to network though, but dint get useful answers
[09:20] <Guest43576> Dr_Willis,  but can it be done via ubuntu partition manager? as i already have made the settings for it.
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> Guest43576:  it can.. but i found windows to be like 10x faster at doing the resize. ;)
[09:21] <minimec> Guest43576: Just my opinion... I would not add a seperate swap partition anymore. You can create a swap-file afterwards or use zram-swap to create a compressed swap in RAM.
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> your hd is only 80gb? is it a ssd?
[09:22] <Guest43576> minimec, isnt it mandatory to select a swap while installing?
[09:22] <Guest43576> Dr_Willis,  no. and its old
[09:22] <mathfreak> md_nfs: well, I'm thinking it might be a card-specific issue, so I just want to be sure.
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> Guest43576:  how much ram do you have?
[09:22] <minimec> Guest43576: No, you don't need to create a swap during install.
[09:22] <AtuM> it seems that the installer in 13.10 doesn't recognize luks partitions.. this was the case in 13.04 aswell..  is anyone looking into it? I'm quite used to seting up my encrypted home partition after the clean installation.
[09:23] <Guest43576> Dr_Willis,  5g all for use
[09:23] <md_nfs> mathfreak, it was working fine till i last shutdown. it was 12 days ago. when i swithed it on today it is giving problem
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> Guest43576:  you could get by with a little swap pariton then. 512mb. or a swap file later.
[09:24] <Guest43576> k
[09:24] <md_nfs> mathfreak, i think i had installed updates last time before i shut it down
[09:24] <mathfreak> md_nfs: Do you remember what updated?
[09:25] <md_nfs> mathfreak, there were many updates, i dont remember them right now
[09:25] <Hanumaan> Dr_Willis, minimec, I have tried to create a new user and also tried all the solutions here : http://askubuntu.com/questions/223501/ubuntu-gets-stuck-in-a-login-loop but still it does not work.
[09:26] <Guest43576> is a  seperate swap partition better or swap-file better or compress swap in ram better?
[09:26] <jatt> I'm trying to upgrade my system but I'm getting:
[09:26] <jatt> The following packages have been kept back:
[09:26] <jatt>   google-chrome-stable
[09:27] <jatt> ubuntu 12.04
[09:27] <jatt> I do sudo apt-get install google-chrome-stable and I get:
[09:27] <jatt> http://pastebin.com/aZtwTVvT
[09:28] <jatt> is google-chrome-stable broken in the repositories?
[09:28] <minimec> Guest43576: My experience is, that a seperate swap is 99% of unused and 'blocked' space on your harddrive. I use zram-swap. 'sudo apt-get install zram-config'.
[09:29] <mathfreak> md_nfs: Ouch. The number of variables that can cause an issue is large, then. Have you tried using the previous kernel version you were using?
[09:31] <md_nfs> mathfreak, i am not able to boot using previous kernel versions as on that screen i get out of range screen at boot time which makes me unable to select other kernels
[09:31] <ActionPa1snip> jatt: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[09:32] <drecute> Hi
[09:32] <minimec> Hanumaan: Ok. Can you switch to a console <ctrl><alt>F1, then login, then 'sudo service lightdm stop', then startx . Would you get your desktop?
[09:32] <drecute> If I have 2 hdd on my machine, how do I specify which to boot from?
[09:32] <minimec> Hanumaan: command 'startx'
[09:32] <ActionPa1snip> drecute: use BIOS
[09:33] <mathfreak> md_nfs: Do you mean that your monitor doesn't display GRUB menu quickly enough?
[09:33] <drecute> ah ok
[09:33] <drecute> ActionPa1snip:  simplest answer
[09:34] <ntg-work> drecute: thats BIOS settings, but make sure to boot from the one that has the bootloader installed on
[09:34] <xtriz> if in ubuntu live cd, i am adding any additional changes in /etc/fstab file can i make that changes persistent ?
[09:34] <md_nfs> mathfreak, yes it doesn't display GRUB and displays "OUT OF RANGE \n 92.4kHz / 58Hz" instead
[09:34] <drecute> ntg-work: both has the bootloader installed
[09:34] <ActionPa1snip> jatt: its a simple terminal command, youc an copy and paste the output direct to the channel as it is a single line of output
[09:35] <ActionPa1snip> md_nfs: what video chip do you use?
[09:35] <drecute> xtriz: no you can't
[09:35] <HypnotiX> Anyone else have cpu problems after the 13.10 update? My cpu spikes to 100% usage ofter, like when i open a new program, or a new tab in chrome
[09:35] <drecute> xtriz: you are working off the live cd not hdd
[09:35] <ActionPa1snip> xtriz: if you use persistance on USB then you can but on a CD, no
[09:35] <md_nfs> ActionPa1snip, i am using nvidea
[09:35] <ActionPa1snip> HypnotiX: what is the highest CPU user?
[09:35] <Guest43576> minimec,  which one is faster?
[09:35] <minimec> xtriz: Just try it. Create an USB stick and give it some space to same persistent data... Boot it up, make changes to /etc/fstab... reboot
[09:35] <ActionPa1snip> md_nfs: try the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[09:36] <HypnotiX> ActionPa1snip: i cant tell at process its gnome-system-monitor sometimes but only shows 5%
[09:36] <mathfreak> md_nfs: Do you know how to work with the /etc/default/grub file? You can choose the default selection (which ultimately picks which kernel version to run).
[09:36] <Hanumaan> minimec, I get "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting."
[09:36] <minimec> Guest43576: 'They' say that swap-space and swap-file are equal in speed. You imagine how fast swap in RAm is... ;)
[09:37] <HypnotiX> i think the gnome-system-monitor spikes to 8% when i get the mini freezes
[09:37] <md_nfs> ActionPa1snip, where to do that?
[09:37] <ActionPa1snip> minimec: kinda defeats the point of swap though....
[09:37] <HypnotiX> so i guess that might be the problem
[09:37] <ActionPa1snip> !nomodeset | md_nfs
[09:37] <Guest43576> minimec,  so zram in RAm is best?
[09:38] <ActionPa1snip> minimec: your system will use swap if the RAM gets full, so puttingh swap in RAM i nonesensical in every way
[09:38] <ActionPa1snip> Guest43576: ^
[09:38] <HypnotiX> ActionPa1snip: i have an optimus laptop so that might be the problem ?
[09:38] <md_nfs> mathfreak, isn't the grub file editable using vi?
[09:38] <phaidros> upgraded to 13.10 and suddenly ctrl-alt-t spawns another terminal than gnome-terminal. where is that shortcut target defined?
[09:38] <ActionPa1snip> HypnotiX: possibly, you may need to reinstall the bumblebee mess
[09:38] <minimec> ActionPa1snip: Well it compresses data to 50% I used zram swap the first time on a arm Computer with 512 RAM. Working very well.
[09:38] <xtriz> drecute, ActionPa1snip, minimec is it possible if i customized ubuntu live cd, and add necessary mount points in the /etc/fstab file on the  live cd ?
[09:38] <ActionPa1snip> minimec: or just set swappiness to a lower value....
[09:38] <mathfreak> md_nfs: Yes. Superuser privileges should be required for editing that file.
[09:38] <minimec> Guest43576: zram is the easiest way and very fast.
[09:38] <HypnotiX> ActionPa1snip: can you tell me how please, im kinda new to linux and i dont want to screw it up again
[09:39] <md_nfs> mathfreak, i do have that, i will try that
[09:39] <xtriz> HypnotiX, it might not be a prob.
[09:39] <xtriz> HypnotiX, i am using the optimus one works great without any glitch.
[09:39] <HypnotiX> xtriz: i tried to install nvidia driver after the update, and it screwedup my gnome very hard
[09:40] <HypnotiX> so i reverted back to default settings
[09:40] <mathfreak> md_nfs: If you know the position of the last kernel version you were running, you can set the default selection to that position in /etc/default/grub.
[09:40] <ActionPa1snip> HypnotiX: uninstall the nvidia and bumblebee packages and reinstall them.
[09:40] <HypnotiX> ok i will
[09:40] <drecute> xtriz: you will have to work off the ubuntu source to do that
[09:40] <minimec> ActionPa1snip: Guest43576: There may be some arguments against swap in RAM, but again... give it a try. Also on ssd's you limit write cicles. I normally also put the /tmp directory into RAM.
[09:40] <ActionPa1snip> HypnotiX: it is rare for proprietary video drivers to survive release changes
[09:41] <ActionPa1snip> minimec: thats why swap on a spindle based drive is good, as well as /tmp and /var
[09:41] <xtriz> drecute, ubuntu source ? where i can find the necessary file to be modified ?
[09:41] <minimec> ActionPa1snip: That is true.
[09:41] <makara> hi. I'm trying to install an apt-cacher
[09:41] <ActionPa1snip> minimec: I put web browser cache intempfs though, makes the browser faster
[09:42] <makara> I can't pass the test in step 4 of server installation: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Apt-Cacher-Server
[09:43] <mathfreak> ActionPa1snip: How do I put my web browser's cache into a tmpfs?
[09:44] <xtriz> drecute, any idea what and where should i modify ?
[09:44] <Hanumaan> minimec, I get following log when I do startx : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6282044/
[09:45] <Hanumaan> minimec, interesting thing is that even mouse does not work ..
[09:45] <phaidros> upgraded to 13.10 and suddenly ctrl-alt-t spawns another terminal than gnome-terminal. where is that shortcut target defined?
[09:45] <phaidros> default applications in system settings has nothing for terminal :)
[09:45] <drecute> xtriz: alternatively from the live cd, mount your hdd partitions and chroot into it
[09:46] <ActionPa1snip> mathfreak: make a folder and chown it to your user. I do this in /etc/rc.local   I thne have ~/.cache/.
[09:46] <phaidros> makara: what does "netstat -tulpen | grep 3142" yield?
[09:47] <ActionPa1snip> mathfreak: make a folder and chown it to your user. I do this in /etc/rc.local   I thne have ~/.cache/google-chrome    as a symlink to the folder
[09:47] <xtriz> drecute, can i pm you ?
[09:47] <ActionPa1snip> mathfreak: damn itchy ENTER finger
[09:47] <ActionPa1snip> mathfreak: the temp files get deleted at boot as well :)
[09:47] <xtriz> why is that my df utility is not working ?
[09:48] <xtriz> which package contains df utility ?
[09:48] <ActionPa1snip> xtriz: run:    df   and if its not present, you will be told which package has it in
[09:48] <ActionPa1snip> xtriz: or run:  dpkg -S df
[09:48] <ActionPa1snip> xtriz: its in a default install of Ubuntu though
[09:49] <wild_oscar> can ubuntu-bug be run completely from the shell?
[09:49] <wild_oscar> I have no access to the UI
[09:49] <xtriz> ActionPa1snip, it is installed but don't know why suddenly df command is not working.
[09:49] <xtriz> it just gets hanged nothing returns back.
[09:49] <makara> phaidros, nothing
[09:50] <mathfreak> ActionPa1snip: Where do I create that folder? Do I create it in some directory mounted as a a tmpfs?
[09:50] <makara> phaidros, ps aux | grep apache2 shows 4 apache2 processes. Why is that? There are 3 under the role www-data
[09:50] <xtriz> ActionPa1snip, may be i need to check which package contains df command.
[09:50] <drecute> xtriz: ok
[09:51] <ntg-work> makara: it's running 3 child processes as well
[09:51] <ntg-work> usually its 1 per thread
[09:51] <ActionPa1snip> mathfreak: in any folder which is already tempfs like in /run/shm   or similar
[09:53] <badelvis2> Hi ubuntu channel. I have kind of a problem: when I tried to install Xubuntu 13.10 over Ubuntu 13.04, I accidentally choose "Use entire Disk"...
[09:53] <Milansky> Hello :)
[09:53] <makara> phaidros, when I installed apt-cacher it asked me to choose between daemon, init.d, and manual. I chose init.d
[09:54] <minimec> Hanumaan: Can you do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg once? Also check /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config See here... http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/09/26/how-to-fix-x-user-not-authorized-to-run-the-x-server-aborting/
[09:55] <Milansky> One simple question - why are some people against "Mir" and are moving to other distros? I've been reading on various forums and cant figure out. Is it that bad or...?
[09:56] <wild_oscar> how do you add a crash report in /var/crash to an existing bug in launchpad?
[09:56] <phaidros> makara: do you have /etc/init.d/apt-cacher ?
[09:57] <minimec> Milansky: Let's say Mir is a 'BMW', and the rest of the community is developing a new 'Mercedes-Benz'. The community thinks, that one 'car' is enough...
[09:57] <phaidros> makara: could you please confirm that, in /etc/default/apt-cacher autostart=1 ?
[09:58] <phaidros> I just upgraded to 13.10 and suddenly ctrl-alt-t spawns another terminal than gnome-terminal. where is that shortcut target defined? I want my gnome-terminal back on that shortcut :)
[09:58] <Milansky> minimec, thank you for your answer :)
[09:58] <makara> phaidros, yes and yes
[09:59] <phaidros> makara: ps axu | grep apt
[09:59] <makara> phaidros, nothing but the prompt
[09:59] <canadianidiot> greetings. i can't get my audio on skype to work properly at all. i've tried everything at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SkypeTroubleshooting that applies to me, but i still have the same audio problems. can someone point me in the direction i should look next?
[10:00] <makara> phaidros, I restarted apt-cacher, and restarted apache2
[10:00] <makara> phaidros, "Restarting Apt-Cacher: apt-cacher."
[10:00] <phaidros> makara: well, I just started the install of apt-cacher locally, you have chosen inetd ?
[10:00] <makara> phaidros, yes
[10:00] <phaidros> i see, that is different from init.d
[10:01] <eimis> hi. I'm using ubuntu 12.04 + gnome 3 with nautilus as desktop "drawer". How to make nautilus launch pantheon-files when opening a folder on desktop?
[10:01] <wild_oscar> is there any way to use apport-collect or ubuntu-bug WITHOUT a user interface?
[10:01] <wild_oscar> I'm trying to send information regarding an app crash
[10:02] <jatt> ActionPa1snip: here the contents of /etc/issue:
[10:02] <jatt> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[10:02] <wild_oscar> I'm ssh-ed onto the machine, but it seems to be using the user interface
[10:02] <wild_oscar> which I don't have access to right now
[10:02] <fenre> !seen deadlock
[10:02] <makara> phaidros, I'll just delete it and start again
[10:02] <phaidros> makara: I did the same install as you described, and after enabling AUTOSTART=1 I am able to fire up apt-caher with the initscript, seeing it in ps aux afterwards. can you confirm that?
[10:02] <phaidros> makara: or that :)
[10:03] <eimis> hi. I'm using ubuntu 12.04 + gnome 3 with nautilus as desktop "drawer". How to make nautilus launch pantheon-files when opening a folder on desktop?
[10:03] <Hanumaan> minimec, the link you gave I was trying it.. and kept it as anyuser ..
[10:03] <Hanumaan> minimec, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg did helped much ..
[10:03] <makara> phaidros, this time it didn't ask me to choose
[10:04] <phaidros> makara: did you purge it before?
[10:04] <minimec> Hanumaan: So you can login to the graphical environment again?
[10:05] <Hanumaan> minimec, sorry .. "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg did *NOT* helped much .."
[10:05] <makara> phaidros, purged > install fresh > and it's on
[10:05] <Hanumaan> minimec, I cannot login yet ..
[10:06] <makara> yay
[10:06] <minimec> Hanumaan: I am a little bit lost with your problem. are you sure you deleted (or moved) that .Xauthority file?
[10:08] <Hanumaan> minimec, at each instance of solution .. I did not deleted but initially deleted it ..
[10:09] <minimec> Hanumaan: Juat to be sure... 'ls .Xa*' in a console. If its mot a .Xauthority problem, I don't have any further idea to help you.
[10:09] <canadianidiot> question. are there any serious issues with permanently removing pulseaudio from ubuntu?
[10:12] <makara> phaidros, apt-cacher uses IPv6. How can I set it to allow hosts in the range 192.168.*.*
[10:12] <canadianidiot> i read somewhere that removing pulseaudio would fix my skype issues so i tried it and skype works almost flawlessly now. i'm just wondering if something else broke
[10:13] <makara> phaidros, it suggests :ffff:192.168.0.1/24, but this isn't wide enough
[10:16] <Ben64> canadianidiot: depends what you mean by "permanently removing pulseaudio"
[10:17] <canadianidiot> i couldn't figure out how to disable it. i tried sudo killall pulseaudio but that didn't work until after i removed it from the system with apt-get
[10:18] <Ben64> canadianidiot: again, depends what you mean by "removed it from the system with apt-get"
[10:19] <canadianidiot> well, i ran the command "sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio" and it removed pulse as well as two dependencies. i can't remember which dependencies were removed off hand
[10:19] <AtuM> I've just seen that openvswitch-brcompat has been dropped upstream.. but tools like virt-manager would still need it.. is there a way to get that back manually or from some ppa?
[10:20] <Ben64> canadianidiot: then you should be fine
[10:20] <canadianidiot> oh excellent :-) thank you kindly Ben64
[10:21] <phaidros> makara: dunno, I would read up th manpage now
[10:24] <Brainscan85> Hi !
[10:24] <canadianidiot> greetings Brainscan85
[10:24] <Brainscan85> Is there an Italian channel?
[10:24] <DJones> Brainscan85: #ubuntu-it
[10:24] <Brainscan85> thanks
[10:30] <eimis> hi. I'm using ubuntu 12.04 + gnome 3 with nautilus as desktop "drawer". How to make nautilus launch pantheon-files when opening a folder on desktop?
[10:32] <auscompgeek> eimis: afaik you don't
[10:32] <tozen> Hi all! Having issues with wifi adapter on my ASUS K53E noteboot. So I've got ZyXEL AMG1202-T10A installed at home it's works fine with all devices I've got at home excluding laptop. I mean smtms 1-2 times a day I'm forced to restart ZyXEL router after my Ubuntu 12.04.3 is up otherwise I have no connection totne Network. Other devices like iPhone or Android having connection in a same time. Here is pastebin of my network adapters: http://pa
[10:33] <auscompgeek> tozen: your message got cut off there, what's the pastebin url?
[10:33] <tozen> auscompgeek: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6281728/
[10:33] <eimis> hi. I'm using ubuntu 12.04 + gnome 3 with nautilus as desktop "drawer". How to make nautilus launch pantheon-files when opening a folder on desktop?
[10:34] <Svetlana> airos, per auscompgeek you don't
[10:34] <tozen> auscompgeek: to strange because i see it fully
[10:34] <Svetlana> eimis, even.. per auscompgeek you don't
[10:35] <auscompgeek> tozen: IRC messages have a limit, not all clients respect that limit
[10:35] <tozen> auscompgeek: if you want i can split it in 2-3 parts...
[10:35] <auscompgeek> eimis: basically, nautilus will always use itself to open directories unless you right-click and open with
[10:36] <auscompgeek> tozen: we got up to http:// basically
[10:36] <eimis> auscompgeek: oh well. :(
[10:36] <auscompgeek> eimis: why not just let pantheon-files handle your desktop?
[10:36] <eimis> auscompgeek: is that possible? :O
[10:37] <auscompgeek> eimis: I'd imagine so; I've never delved into eOS
[10:37] <auscompgeek> (or its components)
[10:37] <eimis> auscompgeek: I read that pantheon isn't able to draw desktop. thanks anyway bro
[10:38] <auscompgeek> oh.
[10:38] <auscompgeek> eimis: it's alright
[10:46] <Guest43576> minimec,  you mean ssd is slower?
[10:46] <Guest43576> minimec,  you mean ssd is slower? if it limits write cycle
[10:46] <m3kk> Ive got some strange error/crashes on my system. i did one thing: installed themes in /usr/share/themes while in thunar with root-rights (sudo thunar) can this creates issuues with im not a root-user while trying to use these themes etc?
[10:47] <m3kk> I also can't enable(or see/fetch) any restricted drivers without crash because of reasons
[10:47] <iceroot> m3kk: yes, for example if these themes are only readable for root for example, i would think that something like that can cause issues for example
[10:47] <delinquentme> proprietary driver booting BS
[10:48] <m3kk> iceroot, thank you , will try to set it straight. would it be ok to set whole /themes to read and write?
[10:49] <iceroot> m3kk: i am not sure what the correct way is, i was never installing other themes
[10:50] <m3kk> iceroot, i regret it. perhaps erase all of the content would do it? except thopse who came preinstalled
[10:50] <racho> m3kk, usually putting the theme in ~/.themes works
[10:51] <racho> m3kk, you may need to create the folder manually however
[10:51] <m3kk> racho, i have no idea where that is sorry.. i only know the path /usr/share/themes
[10:51] <racho> m3kk, /home/<your username>/.themes
[10:51] <m3kk> Oh..
[10:51] <m3kk> Thank you
[10:52] <racho> i usually avoid putting stuff in /usr unless is absolutely necessary
[10:52] <m3kk> racho, so putting . infront of themes makes the folder invisible?
[10:52] <racho> yes.. both files and folders
[10:52] <m3kk> racho, sorry for stupid question but..how can i see it so i can copy to it ?
[10:52] <m3kk> racho, found it
[10:53] <racho> m3kk, well in nautilus it's usually Ctrl+H
[10:53] <m3kk> racho, thanks for help.. will try deleting stuff from /usr instead
[10:53] <racho> m3kk, for dolphin (kde) it was Alt+.
[10:59] <MissValeska> I need help! Grub does not detect my hard drive!
[10:59] <MissValeska> It lists my other hard drives, But not this one I am currently booted into! It does not list it when I type update-grub
[10:59] <MissValeska> I've even reinstalled grub with boot-repair!
[11:00] <m3kk> someone else got crash while trying to go into restricted drivers?
[11:10] <xpl0iter> I am trying to register a start up script for softether on ubuntu. The start up scrip has chkconfig: 2345 99 01. How do I change it to use sysv-rc-conf ?
[11:11] <auronandace> xpl0iter: why? ubuntu uses upstart (not sysvinit)
[11:12] <xpl0iter> auronandace I am trying to go through the set up instruction to start softetehr daemon.
[11:13] <xpl0iter> I don't exactly know what this script does since it has a lot going on in it.
[11:13] <auronandace> !upstart
[11:15] <xpl0iter> auronandace I know you're trying to help me. But I really don't know if there is something which the start up script does. Can you please check this and let me know if I should know anything? I am not that good at coding.http://pastie.org/8421009
[11:20] <BrianH> Gotta love waking up to an Ubuntu Server that's unresponsive to wake.
[11:21] <MissValeska> huh?
[11:21] <limace255> o_O
[11:22] <BrianH> Monitor is asleep, the server is running, but unresponsive to the keyboard.
[11:22] <BrianH> This has been happening a lot since I made the 13.10 jump.
[11:23] <gordonjcp> BrianH: I wouldn't really consider running a non-LTS on a server, without a good reason
[11:23] <Octopus_> little bub on Ubuntu 9 with gnome...  Salut la terre!
[11:23] <BrianH> It's just my home server.
[11:23] <rsvasanth> hey some buddy can help me fixing my Upgraded to 13.10, black screen after login
[11:24] <AtuM> gordonjcp, cutting edge tech is the reason... for instance the latest kvm virtualization and the newer version of kernel
[11:24] <Octopus_> little bug on Ubuntu 9 with gnome...  good morning !
[11:25] <gordonjcp> AtuM: you don't want cutting edge on servers, if you can possibly help it
[11:25] <gordonjcp> Octopus_: which version of Ubuntu?
[11:25] <BrianH> AtuM: KVM changes? o.O ... I run VirtualBox.
[11:27] <AtuM> oh come on... every once and then I come across a server that doesn't work with "enterprise" kernel.. what to do then? wait a year for a newer release? ;)
[11:27] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:28] <BrianH> AtuM: LTS is 2 years :P
[11:28] <xpl0iter> Somebody?
[11:28] <AtuM> BrianH, so true ;)
[11:28] <BrianH> Off to class, later ...
[11:28] <Octopus_> pk gordon i stay here!  no experience on this i said!
[11:30] <xpl0iter> Can someone please help me with this question? http://askubuntu.com/questions/363680/changing-a-start-up-init-d-script-to-use-with-new-ubuntu
[11:30] <Octopus_> So little bug on Ubuntu 9,04 with theme cet up because i lose preview for icones and control look!
[11:31] <Octopus_> So little bug on Ubuntu 9,04 with theme set up because i lose preview for icons and control look!
[11:31] <OerHeks> Octopus_, sorry to hear that, but 9.04 reached EOL end of life, no support nor updates
[11:32] <devilnorm> !list
[11:32] <AtuM> OerHeks, I bet ppl love reading the EOL lines ;)
[11:32] <OerHeks> Octopus_, 10.04 LTS is EOL too, install something newer like 12.04 LTS or the lates 13.10
[11:32] <Octopus_> Oerheks  i know but my computer don't go farer so...
[11:32] <devilnorm> !list
[11:33] <nate_> Hello
[11:33] <AtuM> Octopus_, what do you use it for anyways? you might want to switch distro to something more lightweight
[11:33] <nate_> I'm  experiencing issues with updating my latest ubuntu install
[11:34] <vagabond663> has anyone ever had any success installing ubuntu on to an hp touchsmart?
[11:35] <nate_> mostly, I'm tring to install XAMPP,
[11:35] <Octopus_> Atum nono i have all the kit for desktop of different kind and linux distributions but on this computer can't go more than 9.04!
[11:35] <Hanumaan> seems to be there is some X server problem in ubuntu 13.10 .. unable to login .. when I type password login screen is looping up .. seems to left out only to reinstall
[11:35] <ravionrails> how can i set pwd in terminal title
[11:36] <AtuM> Octopus_, what's the reason? kernel not supporting old hw?
[11:36] <vagabond663> how can i get ubuntu to installed on a touchsmart? the pc came with vista
[11:36] <Octopus_> yes it is!  and it is ok!  The last Ubuntu are on others!
[11:36] <Octopus_> but...
[11:36] <Octopus_> So little bug on Ubuntu 9,04 with theme set up because i lose preview for icons and control look!
[11:38] <vagabond663> i keep getting an error failed to restore crt configuration
[11:38] <BluesKaj> Octopus_. how old is this pc ?
[11:38] <Octopus_> Dino âge!
[11:38] <OerHeks> Octopus_, maybe this is solved in updates, but the update server has been removed, you can have the updates, by editting your sourceslist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[11:38] <vagabond663> it came with a intel dual core processor its an all in one pc
[11:38] <Hanumaan> ravionrails, keep this text http://paste.ubuntu.com/6282469/ in your ~/.profile file ..
[11:39] <vagabond663> any ideas?
[11:39] <Octopus_> OerHerks  It is done for this!  In fact is to find a way to reset a cache for the preview on theme setup
[11:40] <Ben64> Octopus_: 9.04 is long since unsupported, you'll need to get a new version
[11:40] <Octopus_> Ben 64!  I have it!  But i play with this old!
[11:41] <Ben64> Octopus_: no, get a new version, 9.04 is not supported, and not updated, meaning there are bugs and vulnerabilities
[11:41] <excognac> hi all Iám about buying a new desktop pc. Is there any list of ubuntu (and kubuntu and lubuntu) INCOMPATIBLE displays or there is no such?
[11:41] <excognac> -*I'm
[11:41] <vagabond663> first i tried to install ubuntu 13 but my computer won't detect it reguardless of it being on disc or usb
[11:41] <Ben64> excognac: what type of display?
[11:41] <ravionrails> Hanumaan, i have paste the code at the end and also done source ~/.profile and closed the terminal and again open it, title not set :(
[11:42] <excognac> something like 21,5" Samsung S22C150N LED monitor
[11:42] <Ben64> excognac: yeah that'll be fine. the only problems are on weird EDID monitors really, like some TVs or very old monitors
[11:43] <Octopus_> Ben64 IBM T42 can't take more than 9.04 so...
[11:43] <excognac> Ben64: thanks bro
[11:43] <Hanumaan> ravionrails, I do not have more solutions . but trying playing around the profile preferences of terminal
[11:44] <PhilH> hi. I have problems with libnotify. It seems broken in Unity after Upgrade to 13.10
[11:44] <Ben64> Octopus_: if it can do 9.04 it can do 12.04
[11:45] <Octopus_> Ben 64, i did a test with 10 and nothing wanted to install
[11:45] <Ben64> ok... 10.04 isn't supported either
[11:46] <Octopus_> Ben 64 and i can't !  so to go farer is to forget!
[11:47] <BluesKaj> Octopus_. a test ober the internet or with cd ?
[11:47] <BluesKaj> over
[11:47] <Ben64> Octopus_: it will definitely run 12.04, but if you don't want to thats fine, but you cannot get support here without a current version
[11:47] <Octopus_> And don't say it to the others but.......                              i don't want Unity!
[11:47] <Ben64> unity is not required at all
[11:48] <ravionrails> Hanumaan, it's not working in new tab
[11:48] <Octopus_> Ben64  and to put the 12 on this is a risk because nothig go on this way for what i have see and tested!
[11:49] <racho> Hanumaan, Edit > Profile Preferences > Title and Command set to ‘Replace initial title’
[11:49] <racho> Hanumaan, then to .bashrc -> PROMPT_COMMAND='echo -ne "33]0;${USER}@${HOSTNAME}: ${PWD}07"'
[11:49] <Ben64> Octopus_: fine, then don't use it! but you CAN NOT get support here without a current version
[11:49] <BluesKaj> Octopus_. what are the specs on this pc ?
[11:49] <Octopus_> Ben64! OK!  i did not knew this!
[11:50] <Ben64> Octopus_: i said it like 3 times already
[11:50] <Octopus_> Ben 64 Old 1995 more or less IBM T42
[11:51] <Ben64> BluesKaj: its an ibm laptop, 1.5-1.7ghz cpu, 256mb-2gb rams, 30-80gb hard drive, radeon graphics
[11:51] <Guest31152> sup
[11:51] <Octopus_> BluesKaj you are not to far!
[11:52] <BluesKaj> Octopus_. too far ??
[11:52] <AtuM> Octopus_, when a release gets out of support, the packages get moved to another place.. so installer can't really use internet packages or update later from them..  try to install 12.04 as I believe it should work. Also if you don't like unity you can use some other version - try the server release.. then install whatever desktop you like on top
[11:52] <Octopus_> BluesKaj ok straith on this!
[11:53] <Ben64> for a slower machine i'd suggest xubuntu or lubuntu anyway, neither of those have unity
[11:54] <Octopus_> Ben64 the fact is i LOVE GNOME 2!  And ALL is perfect for me with this now!
[11:54] <Guest31152> testing my new laptop :)
[11:55] <Ben64> Octopus_: except you're completely vulnerable to attack, and you're running an ancient release and cannot install anything new, sure i guess?
[11:55] <PhilH> ls
[11:56] <AtuM> Octopus_, I have a new notebook but have installed lubuntu because it only has 2GB ram and cannot be expanded.. You might want to install server edition and then run gnome on top if you really want to. or just use lubuntu..
[11:56] <Octopus_> Ben 64  i don't need it!  I have ALLLLLLLLL what i want!  But vunerability you are right!
[11:56] <AtuM> Octopus_, if ALL is perfect, why are you up here now? :)
[11:56] <Octopus_> So little bug on Ubuntu 9,04 with theme set up because i lose preview for icons and control look!
[11:57] <masood> how to install 86 arch apps on 64 bit
[11:57] <DJ_Unibob> Is it possible to have both Unity and KDE installed side by side on 13.10?
[11:57] <Ben64> Octopus_: install 12.04 or you can't get support
[11:57] <AtuM> Octopus_, a perfect little bug then.. that's just perfect
[11:58] <Ben64> DJ_Unibob: yes
[11:58] <Octopus_> The Ubuntu 12 is on an other computer and i use it almost never!
[11:58] <Ben64> Octopus_: how is that related to anything
[11:59] <molavy1> hi
[11:59] <Octopus_> Is more for specific programs or for the look and flexibility of the old distributions
[11:59] <DJ_Unibob> I'm going to set both my windows and ubuntu partitions to have another user here in the next few days when i move.  I use unity, but my mom might prefer the K Desktop Environment.
[11:59] <Ben64> Support for 9.04 ended on October 23 2010, just about 3 years ago, stop talking about it
[11:59] <AtuM> Octopus_, you might want to try something like a puppy linux.. there's a ubuntu base release.. perfect little linux distro for slow computers
[11:59] <BluesKaj> Ben64. methinks this is turning into a troll situation , repeating himself and ignoring advice ,no point pursuing it
[12:00] <Ben64> BluesKaj: seems to be a bit of a language barrier as well
[12:00] <Octopus_> Atum!  Uglyer than Puppy is hard to beat!
[12:00] <masood> how to install 86 arch apps on 64 bit
[12:00] <molavy1> i asked my question two time with no answer yesterday , so i want just know is there some one that help me install wifi module in picubuntu
[12:00] <molavy1> ?
[12:00] <Ben64> Octopus_: just stop. we don't care anymore. get 12.04 or stop talking
[12:01] <Ben64> !details | masood
[12:01] <BluesKaj> yeah , he's in Quebec but don't think french is his first language either
[12:01] <Octopus_> Ben 64! Ok!  I read!
[12:01] <red6m__>  does anyone use lastpass here? is it broken for you as well in chromium after 13.10 update?
[12:02] <masood> Ben64,  want to install skype on 64 bit kubuntu but the site downloads for me a 386.deb despite it says multiparch.
[12:02] <Ben64> !skype | masood
[12:02] <AtuM> Octopus_, try plain twm
[12:03] <vivid> hows that for nostalgia
[12:03] <Octopus_> Twm is a destop environnement?
[12:03] <vivid> yes
[12:04] <masood> Ben64,  ~$ sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[12:04] <masood> dpkg: error: unknown option --add-architecture
[12:05] <Ben64> masood: i think that part is a little outdated, pretty sure multiarch is enabled by default now
[12:05] <masood> Ben64,  i downloaded the skypei386.deb from skype.com and it said its error, i386 arch
[12:06] <Ben64> check the forums and stuff, i don't use skype
[12:06] <excognac> my next noob question: is there any serious stability issue with 13.04 comparing to 12.04 (sorry for being lazy reading forums)64-bit, on desktop pc configs? Does stability has much to do with desktop environments? (I'm most comfortably with kde, not happy with unity)
[12:06] <vivid> it should be in the partner repository, sudo apt-get install skype
[12:06] <masood> you dont? strange
[12:06] <Ben64> not sure if downloading the deb is the right way
[12:06] <Ben64> and how is not using a microsoft product strange?
[12:06] <foofoobar> Hi. When viewin PDF's and selecting text+copy, there are often a lot of whitespaces added to the text when I paste them somewhere else. Is there a good PDF editors which does not have this beaviour?
[12:06] <vivid> excognac, not really.  if you plan to do gaming there may be improvements in that regard
[12:06] <foofoobar> *PDF reader
[12:07] <masood> Ben64,  what replacement do you have for skype?
[12:07] <gordonjcp> masood: are you on i386?
[12:07] <masood> gordonjcp,  no
[12:07] <gordonjcp> masood: you might be on x86_64
[12:07] <gordonjcp> masood: well, i386 won't work then
[12:07] <masood> gordonjcp,  yes
[12:07] <gordonjcp> not without a certain amount of fiddling
[12:07] <Ben64> excognac: 12.04 is LTS, which is supported until 2015, 13.04 is supported until January 2014. KDE works on both
[12:07] <masood> gordonjcp,  isnt multi arch supported? 2. i think there is a way to install 386 on 64 bit
[12:07] <gordonjcp> masood: possibly
[12:07] <masood> gordonjcp, ok
[12:08] <excognac> vivid: nope, I'm about setting up my new desktop machine in the office. No specfic task required, stability is the only real requirement.
[12:08] <AtuM> excognac, I've had no instability issues with 13.04 whatsoever..
[12:08] <masood> gordonjcp,  is there a straight solution
[12:08] <Ben64> i still don't think downloading and installing .debs is the correct way for skype
[12:08] <vivid> excognac, 13.04/13.10 are just fine, probably better due to the rapid pace of development
[12:08] <vivid> Ben64, it is in the partner repository, install it through cli or your favorite package management tool
[12:08] <Ben64> excognac: with non-lts you have to upgrade to the new version every 6 months, LTS you have 2 years
[12:08] <gordonjcp> masood: no idea, I don't use any i386 packages on 64-bit
[12:09] <gordonjcp> masood: just compile it for 64-bit
[12:09] <Ben64> vivid: thats what i thought
[12:09] <vivid> sudo apt-get install skype
[12:09] <cylex> :<
[12:09] <cylex> stop dropping out people :>
[12:10] <cylex> stay here, don't time out
[12:10] <Ben64> cylex: please don't
[12:10] <excognac> Ben64, vivid, AtuM thanks.
[12:10] <cylex> Ben64: ok
[12:10] <masood> gordonjcp,  compile? how
[12:10] <cylex> Ben64: I think otherside it got it undercontrol now, please let them do their work with Linux Mint
[12:10] <vivid> masood, sudo apt-get install skype
[12:10] <cylex> Ben64: People's input only messes things up
[12:11] <hatchetjack> anyone have any idea why the monitor doesn't turn off after X amount of time with ubuntu 13.10 fresh install?
[12:11] <Ben64> cylex: what are you on about? this is #ubuntu, not #mint
[12:11] <cylex> Ben64: they are saying don't kill a.out binaries, they are very important
[12:11] <gordonjcp> masood: get the source, compile it according to the instructions
[12:11] <gordonjcp> masood: what are you trying to run, anyway?
[12:11] <MissValeska> I need help! Grub does not detect my hard drive!
[12:11] <MissValeska> It lists my other hard drives, But not this one I am currently booted into! It does not list it when I type update-grub
[12:11] <MissValeska> I've even reinstalled grub with boot-repair!
[12:12] <masood> gordonjcp,  skype
[12:12] <gordonjcp> masood: oh, no idea, looks like it's some proprietary thing that only works on old 32-bit systems
[12:12] <vivid> ...it works fine on new systems.
[12:12] <cylex> yes
[12:13] <cylex> that and there's 1 branch that needs to be /dev/null'd
[12:13] <Ben64> !ot | cylex
[12:13] <cylex> the new branch is fine
[12:13] <gordonjcp> there are a bunch of other IM clients
[12:13] <cylex> yes
[12:13] <gordonjcp> why put so much effort into using skype?
[12:13] <cylex> I use ICQ
[12:13] <cylex> that's what I say
[12:13] <Ben64> cylex: stop.
[12:14] <cylex> i'm talking about IM Clients.
[12:14] <masood> gordonjcp,  you dont use skype?
[12:14] <masood> every one uses skype
[12:14] <gordonjcp> masood: no
[12:14] <gordonjcp> what would I use it for?
[12:14] <vivid> gordonjcp, why not? its available in the default repository..
[12:14] <cylex> listen
[12:14] <masood> you dont have a skype account?
[12:14] <vivid> some people need it
[12:14] <gordonjcp> vivid: don't see the point
[12:14] <cylex> get one
[12:14] <masood> gordonjcp,  office conversation?
[12:14] <gordonjcp> masood: I don't work in an office
[12:14] <cylex> point well understood
[12:15] <vivid> masood, all you have to do to install skype is enable the partner repository, and then sudo apt-get install skype
[12:15] <masood> how to see what type of HDD i have. is it SSD?
[12:15] <masood> vivid,  yes. seems like that. but it requires about 200mb of i386 packages
[12:15] <gordonjcp> vivid: if I want to talk to someone I'll just phone them
[12:15] <gordonjcp> masood: sounds about right, if it's the only i386 package you're installing
[12:16] <vivid> masood, and thats part of the install, its only 32bit.  so you install all of that or you dont.  done
[12:16] <gordonjcp> masood: you basically have to install all the i386 libraries, pretty much half a Linux installation, to do it
[12:16] <masood> k
[12:16]  * gordonjcp -> off
[12:17] <gordonjcp> time to go and drill holes in stuff ;-)
[12:18] <masood> thx
[12:21] <greek> Hello chaps. I've just purchase a Lenovo X230 with windows 8 pre-installed. I'd like to dual boot Ubuntu Desktop 12.04 LTS. I've googled online for tutorials. There are plenty. What worries me is that they all have differences; there doesn't seem to be a defacto way to do this. Perhaps someone here knows of a good source of documentation for this that they've tested and it works? Any tips in general would be appreciated. Thanks
[12:22] <Ben64> !uefi | greek
[12:22] <Ben64> greek: i haven't done it (because i don't buy windows machines) but you'll have to disable secure boot or whatever its called so that ubuntu can boot
[12:23] <molavy> is there someone that help install wifi module in picubuntu ? i have one mk808b mini tv device but wifi not work in picubuntu
[12:24] <greek> Ben64, ok great thanks for the reference and the tip. I'll check it out.
[12:26] <red6m__> chromium seems to be super-broken after 13.10 update. all extensions throw errors and 3-rd party cookies disabled by default.
[12:28] <racho> red6m__, 3rd party blocked by default is a win
[12:28] <red6m__> racho, that's kewl. it's just I don't thik thas was planned.
[12:28] <red6m__> racho, that's kewl. it's just I don't think that was planned.
[12:30] <Wiz_KeeD> hello guys!
[12:30] <Allu4> Hi :)
[12:30] <odt> 13.10 32bit - syslog stops 2nd morning in row. known issue?
[12:30] <hikenboot> I upgraded my system to ubuntu raring. It booted fine before the upgrade after the upgrade it hangs (in the guest vm on esx5i) at a screen that says Ubuntu and shows the ubuntu symbol. I think it has something to do with mouse driver support or lack there of because of a problem with the tools. I tried disabling splash in grub same problem no ctrl+alt+f1 no right shift works
[12:30] <Allu4> Testing out Ubuntu 13.10, dudes, good work with the radeon opensource driver, working wonders right out of the box :)
[12:32] <Allu4> Using irc with empathy feels odd :S
[12:33] <m1chael> does anyone know anything about setting up surveillance cameras that can be viewed over the internet? is there a #channel that specializes in that?
[12:34] <hitsujiTMO> !alis | m1chael
[12:35] <Allu4> m1chael: http://www.zoneminder.com/ googling gave me that in few seconds, perhaps they got irc channel
[12:35] <AtuM> m1chael, I'm tracking this project http://www.zoneminder.com . when I have cammeras set up It'll be my first try
[12:35] <hikenboot> I cant fix it in a chroot because /lib/modules isnt found not sure if i can try mounting this some how anyone know do I do a symlink or somthing
[12:35] <Allu4> AtuM: GMTA :)
[12:35] <hitsujiTMO> hikenboot: have you installed kernel headers?
[12:36] <Allu4> Well time for reboot, if the actuall system works anything near as well as the live one you just got me turned back from Fedora :D
[12:36] <hikenboot> yes i am in a chroot to try and recover the unrecoverable so it seems the headers are installed in the /dev/sda1 I am chrooting into
[12:36] <Wiz_KeeD> Can someone recommend a good tutorial/resource to installing ubuntu on a SSD, what parts should be kept or ssd and what parts should be kept on a regular drive please?
[12:37] <hitsujiTMO> Wiz_KeeD: installing on ssd is the same as installing on hdd
[12:38] <Wiz_KeeD> Yes but some suggest different parts installed in different places, like this article
[12:38] <Wiz_KeeD> http://www.techradar.com/news/computing-components/storage/12-ssd-tips-to-optimise-your-drive-s-performance-943984
[12:38] <Wiz_KeeD> Basically reducing write cycles
[12:38] <Allu4> Wiz_KeeD:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/19376/installing-ubuntu-on-a-ssd might asnwer some questions as well
[12:39] <Wiz_KeeD> Allu4, bookmarked, thank you ver much!
[12:39] <racho> Wiz_KeeD, i suggest you read this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Solid_State_Drives without the arch specific parts
[12:39] <Wiz_KeeD> racho, bookmarked as well, ty! :)
[12:39] <hitsujiTMO> Wiz_KeeD: that techradar is a really bad article
[12:40] <Wiz_KeeD> how so?
[12:40] <hikenboot> I guess its time to cut my losses. I originally ran out of space on / something that should never have happend that trigged this whole thing
[12:40] <hitsujiTMO> Wiz_KeeD: you do not need to do what they are saying. a ssd can take the writes
[12:41] <AtuM> racho, once the ssd fails all the advantages seem meaningless since you can't recover any data anymore. I use plain hdd in a mirror for my home partition.
[12:43] <racho> AtuM, i agree. i still hold off from buying a ssd. they do have their pros but the loss of data is still a big no at least for me
[12:44] <AtuM> I have a temp user profile for those time I only need comp for browsing the net.. that home folder is on ssd.. it works superfast.
[12:45] <smethia> hi Kevin
[12:46] <BluesKaj> hikenboot. do you run autoremove and autoclean with apt periodically on your machine ? if not then / will fill up with leftovers pretty quickly if you update and upgrade your packages periodically too.
[12:46] <hikenboot> yes it happend during an upgrade I didnt check for space before I started :-(
[12:50] <excognac> how much swap partition is decent on a desktop pc with 4GB RAM, 1TB Hdd with 13.10?
[12:51] <hitsujiTMO> excognac: 4gb
[12:51] <excognac> hitsujiTMO:  just like before. 8gb swap won't make anything faster, right?
[12:51] <racho> excognac, 0 ~ 4gb
[12:51] <hitsujiTMO> excognac: swap should be same as ram (or slightly greater at most)
[12:51] <hitsujiTMO> excognac: nope
[12:52] <excognac> hitsujiTMO: kk, thx, the old rule applies:)
[12:52] <xtriz> how can i know in which package 'df' command belongs to ?
[12:52] <xtriz> don't know why 'df' command is not working.
[12:52] <racho> excognac, as a rule these days if you aren't on a laptop and have more than 2gb you can run without swap at all
[12:53] <racho> excognac, put 1x ram tops
[12:53] <AtuM> hitsujiTMO, I have 32GB of ram.. so 32GB of swap? at some point it's unlikely the system will ever use as much swap as it has ram.. so I use 4GB swap with 32GB ram..
[12:54] <AtuM> racho, I wouldn't set up linux os without swap... bad things can happen
[12:54] <Wiz_KeeD> That is...a LOT of information
[12:54] <therazr> AtuM: I don't see what could happen. Your RAM will always be used in favour of swap :)
[12:54] <Wiz_KeeD> From what I see most of it isn't that particulary hardware saving
[12:54] <hitsujiTMO> Atum: afaik some suspension level requires dumping ram to swap, but yeah for general use 4gb swap on 32gb ramn is overkill
[12:55] <racho> AtuM, my desktop is without swap...nothing bad happened for 2+ years
[12:55] <Wiz_KeeD> like disabling logs or setting them to ram
[12:55] <Wiz_KeeD> a 128gb ssd should last more than 5 years at the usage I
[12:55] <Wiz_KeeD> I'm doing
[12:55] <AtuM> therazr, some apps require swap.. even if it is never to be used.. baaad apps
[12:56] <racho> Wiz_KeeD, there is always the factor of *hardware quality*
[12:56] <Wiz_KeeD> that's true yes
[12:56] <AtuM> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[12:56] <Wiz_KeeD> SSD Kingston 120GB SATA-III SSDNow V+200 7mm
[12:57] <Wiz_KeeD> Supports TRIM and S.M.A.R.T Duraclass tehcnology (whatever that means)
[12:58] <AtuM> uh-oh.. so for hibernate i need more then 32GB swap :D
[12:58] <therazr> AtuM: I can see that is a bit outdated though
[12:58] <therazr> Of course...
[12:58] <racho> AtuM, obviously :D
[12:58] <therazr> So no one uses hibernate any longer xD
[12:58] <AtuM> :)
[12:59] <AtuM> I don't either
[13:00] <hitsujiTMO> Wiz_KeeD: what you're doing is the practice that i would have given when nand flash blocks had a 10k write life span. modern nand flash have atleast 1m so you're just going to be disabling handy features
[13:01] <Wiz_KeeD> hitsujiTMO, so the best would be to just partition the drive like any normal one and leave it be
[13:01] <racho> Wiz_KeeD, TRIM is quite essential http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trim_%28computing%29; as for SMART -> it's a self monitor check on the hd(ssd) and if you start seeing SMART errors it is best to prepare your backups
[13:01] <Wiz_KeeD> From what I read ubuntu does automatic trim? no?
[13:01] <AtuM> hitsujiTMO, nevertheless.. I see ssd fail all the time... with about a 100 of them out there.. once every 2-3 months i replace one
[13:02] <hitsujiTMO> Wiz_KeeD: yes ... if you are worried, then one thing you can do is mount the partition with noatime
[13:02] <Wiz_KeeD> nah then it's okay
[13:02] <Wiz_KeeD> Though I need to engineer some really good backups
[13:02] <Wiz_KeeD> I have one set at every boot with the standard backup software
[13:03] <hitsujiTMO> AtuM: ssds tend to fail just as often as hdds... and not because the flash stops being writable in blocks
[13:05] <AtuM> hitsujiTMO, right.. but I have seen that too.. I've dd'd a drive, target beeing /dev/null and when it came to about 200GB it reported IO errors.. so I do think that could mean that those flash blocks are not readable anymore..
[13:06] <Boreeas> I upgraded to 13.10 yesterday, and since then, the screen doesn't dim and lock after the configured 2 minutes, nor does it lock when the lid of the laptop is closed, even though the laptop suspends
[13:06] <tester> hi all. Does someone know how to unzip in command line without verbose messages?
[13:06] <Boreeas> Any help?
[13:07] <hitsujiTMO> atum, i guess possibly, i have heard of a few controllers being considered useless aswell for wearleveling
[13:07] <xtriz> is ZFS for ubuntu stable ?
[13:08] <AtuM> xtriz, ZFS is unstable period
[13:09] <tester> Does someone know how to unzip in command line without verbose messages?
[13:09] <xtriz> AtuM, so it's better to avoid then.
[13:10] <AtuM> tester, http://linuxwave.blogspot.com/2008/03/redirecting-stdout-and-stderr.html
[13:10] <hitsujiTMO> tester: afiak -o is the only flag that reduces verbosity. try reading the --help
[13:10] <w0jrl> try adding -qq to your unzip command.
[13:10] <jmgk> GUI
[13:10] <jmgk> Oops sirry
[13:10] <AtuM> xtriz, it works while it works.. once you need any kind of resync it's a nightmare.. or if you later want to shrink the volume.. an impossible task
[13:11] <tester> oh yeah, qq did the trick... I tried -q instead... THX!!!
[13:11] <AtuM> xtriz, it's fine for growing
[13:11] <xtriz> AtuM, ok :) i though ZFS is stable enough to be used on regular basis.
[13:11] <AtuM> xtriz, it has its limitations
[13:11] <w0jrl> you're welcome.
[13:12] <minimec> Boreeas: I guess you checked the relevant settings in 'Brightness&Lock' + 'Power'. If you upgraded your installation, you should still have the latest kernel from the previous ubuntu version. Di you try to boot this 'old' kernel?
[13:12] <limace255> hi all, can anyone help me, I want to reset usb connections on a 10.04 ubuntu, without rebooting the pc
[13:12] <xtriz> AtuM, hmm..
[13:13] <CatKiller> limace255: Define "reset usb connections"
[13:13] <xtriz> how can i know in which package 'df' command belongs to ?
[13:13] <OerHeks> limace255, plug out/plugin ?
[13:13] <CatKiller> xtriz: "man df"
[13:13] <CatKiller> at the bottom
[13:14] <OerHeks> xtriz http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/raring/man1/df.1.html
[13:14] <CatKiller> it usually tells you which package it's from
[13:14] <OerHeks> core-utils
[13:14] <Boreeas> minimec: Yeah, the settings are correct. How do I boot into the old kernel? It cant recall seeing it in the Grub menu
[13:15] <minimec> limace255: Never had to do that, but this should help... http://abunchofbaloney.blogspot.ch/2012/11/reset-usb-ports-in-ubuntu-1210.html
[13:16] <yNos> Good morning, all
[13:16] <w0jrl> good morning.
[13:16] <minimec> Boreeas: Right when 'grub' starts, press and hold the left <shift>key. Then the traditional gtub boot menu should pop-up.
[13:17] <minimec> Boreeas: ... you would then see the latest kernel + recovery and an additional menu. Choose that additinal one.
[13:17] <xtriz> CatKiller, OerHeks :)
[13:18] <yNos> So, I have kerb auth setup with pam_ccreds Now that i have updated my password, it hasnt updated the cacheing part.. doea anyone know how to do that?
[13:19] <yNos> it was fine up until i changed my passed, it has the old one cached.. and i am unsure how to flush the cache..
[13:19] <lorenx> hi all. i've just upgraded my father ubuntu 12.04.3 lts but now my screen suddenly dims when there's no window in the foreground. what could this due to? thanks.
[13:20] <lorenx> is it a bug or a feature?
[13:20] <yNos> lorenx: to which person?
[13:21] <lorenx> yNos: excuse me?
[13:21] <lorenx> my kernel is now 3.2.0-55-generic-pae
[13:21] <yNos> lorenx: nvm
[13:21] <lorenx> yNos: do you know the issue i described?
[13:23] <yNos> Nope, but you can adjust the dimming in the brightness and lock tool
[13:23] <xtriz> why is my command 'df' not working ?
[13:23] <xtriz> how can i check what's wrong ?
[13:23] <yNos> xtriz: what is it outputting?
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> xtriz: what happens when you run it? saying 'not working' tells us nothing
[13:23] <lorenx> yNos: it doens't seem to be a brightness issue, i disabled it
[13:24] <yNos> xtriz: do you want df -h ?
[13:24] <xtriz> yNos, it output's nothing, just gets stuck.
[13:24] <xtriz> yNos, yeah i am entering df -h
[13:24] <lorenx> my screen just suddenly dims when there's no window in the foreground, it's not a brightness or a screensaver issue
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> xtriz: are your partitions healthy?
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> xtriz: is it ok with sudo?
[13:25] <xtriz> ActionParsnip, with sudo too nothing is displayed.
[13:25] <lorenx> any idea?
[13:25] <yNos> lorenx: not sure
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> xtriz: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[13:25] <makara> I can configure Synaptic to delete debian packages after installing, but how can I configure apt-get to do the same?
[13:26] <xtriz> Ubuntu 13.04
[13:26] <lorenx> if i remove a kernel, the previous one is restored right?
[13:26] <makara> lorenx, itthe screen doing that
[13:27] <makara> lorenx, you're got magic brightness or something set. You can turn off with buttons on the screen
[13:27] <mulosicul> !list
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> lorenx: the installed kernels are not changed, except the one you remove
[13:27] <lorenx> makara: you're the man!
[13:28] <lorenx> makara: how did you think about it?
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> lorenx: if you install another kernel, the installed ones are also kept
[13:28] <lorenx> :P
[13:28] <xtriz> ActionParsnip, hwo can i check that my partitions are healthy ?
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> xtriz: boot to liveCD and run an fsck there
[13:28] <lorenx> ActionParsnip: but the system will run the latest installed, i guess
[13:29] <Viproz> hi
[13:30] <genii> makara: You can put the the value: APT::Periodic::AutocleanInterval "1";    in /etc/apt/apt.conf    and it will clear out the archives every day ( the number is for how many days)
[13:32] <shruggar> I ocasionally have modifier keys which act "stuck" (eg: acting as if alt is always pressed). Does anyone know of a way to fix this issue when it occurs, short of restarting X?
[13:33] <Xtreme> Hey guys
[13:33] <makara> genii, I see now. There's an apt.conf.d fragment folder with autoremove  files and what looks like JSON content. Should I be editing this rather?
[13:33] <Xtreme> why so many things are broken after ubuntu upgrade of 13.04 to 13.10?
[13:33] <Xtreme> some of things are broken beyond fixing.. like teamviewer
[13:34] <makara> Xtreme, nothing new about that
[13:34] <Xtreme> makara, hahaha
[13:34] <Xtreme> well.. ubuntu should really test before releasing.
[13:34] <Guest62762> ciao
[13:34] <Guest62762> !list
[13:34] <OerHeks> Xtreme, well, teamviewer is not in the repos, so ask them ?
[13:34] <makara> Xtreme, with open source the community does the testing
[13:35] <genii> makara: It is safer not to edit those. To see all the apt settings which can modify: apt-config dump      ...if you copy anoy of those to /etc/apt/apt.conf and modify it, that becomes the default setting
[13:35] <Xtreme> OerHeks, well, ubuntu removed many packages... specially sound related.. not only Teamviewer.
[13:35] <Xtreme> python 2.7, skype and many other things broke
[13:35] <Xtreme> i tried to fix, they dint get. so i just reinstalled
[13:36] <makara> genii, brilliant. thx
[13:36] <davividal> my $HOME/foo has g+w. I want that all group-created files belongs to my user. Is that possible?
[13:36] <genii> makara: You're welcome
[13:37] <yNos> davividal: cant remember the syntax offhand, but you want to loko into sticky bits in the chmod manpage
[13:38] <hitsujiTMO> davividal: have you tried u+s and g+s ?
[13:38] <DWSR> http://goo.gl/eyJ4QD <-- help? I've set the disk UUID correctly.
[13:38] <yNos> davividal: or was it the setuid bit
[13:39] <davividal> hitsujiTMO: no, thanks
[13:39] <raub> DWSR: your screen claims otherwise. boot single user/recovery mode and then check the UUID for partition
[13:39] <raub> or just use the othe rname for the drive
[13:39] <DWSR> raub: I did. It's correct.
[13:39] <Xtreme> anyone knows any alternative to get teamviewer installed?
[13:40] <raub> DWSR: thent here is nothing else I can do do help you
[13:40] <IRC_Homeless> hello ladies and gentlemen
[13:40] <DWSR> raub: I'm changing the file in my /etc/fstab?
[13:40] <DWSR> I assume I could do it by disk ID?
[13:40] <ceruleancity> hey any one know where I can get a list of different ubuntu channels? such as ubuntu-dev etc
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> !alis | ceruleancity
[13:40] <davividal> hitsujiTMO: nope... =\ it's still using another user
[13:40] <minimec> davividal: You could do this with a cron job or a daemon. Example for daemon. You have a program that listens the directory /home/foo. If a file is placed there, the program runs a chown 'foo foo command' to give ownership to 'foo'. There might be a problem if 'notfoo' is still working on the file
[13:41] <hitsujiTMO> ceruleancity: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> Xtreme: what do you want to use it for? What do you plan to do on the remote PC?
[13:41] <DWSR> ceruleancity: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/Scope
[13:41] <Xtreme> ActionParsnip, we use it in office.
[13:41] <raub> DWSR: grumpb
[13:41] <ceruleancity> thanks guys!
[13:41] <ceruleancity> !alis
[13:41] <raub> Er, i meant grub
[13:41] <ceruleancity> lol
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> Xtreme: yes but to do what?
[13:42] <Xtreme> remote assistance to clients and co-workers.
[13:42] <davividal> hitsujiTMO: nevermind. I can delete the files, so it's working. Thanks :)
[13:42] <yacc> Trying to install ubuntu 13.04, and when I select "use whole disc" + "encrypt" + "use LVM", the partition step stops with "unsafe swap detected"?
[13:42] <davividal> minimec: stick bit was the correct solution
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> Xtreme: for support and show them how to do stuff?
[13:43] <raub> Can anyone explain me this "cannot overwrite directory with non-directory" message? (http://pastie.org/private/eyfj9jjpgwjyjtpfxnv8vq)
[13:43] <Viproz> I have a weird problem with xkb, I set my configs with that : http://pastebin.com/teyBj3zp but when I test it with xev, one time it shows keycode 10 but the next time it shows keycode 37 so another keysum, do you know how to fix it ?
[13:43] <Xtreme> Not exactly. To fix stuff. but yes, sometimes that too
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> Xtreme: if its over LAN then VNC I guess
[13:43] <raub> DWSR: edint grub as needed
[13:43] <raub> And I am having loads of typos today
[13:43] <DWSR> raub: Does grub support doing disks by id as opposed to UUID?
[13:44] <minimec> davividal: THX. Learned something too here...
[13:44] <DWSR> raub: Because I have triple and quadruple checked the UUID of the disk that I"m booting from.
[13:44] <raub> DWSR: of the disk or the partition in question?
[13:45] <DWSR> raub: Yes. I had to generate a new UUID because I'm imaging from a VirtualBox virtual disk.
[13:45] <limace255> CatKiller: I lost all my usb devices after tests; I want to find a way to "reset" those devices
[13:45] <DWSR> raub: So I changed it, updated fstab and grub's conf, still this.
[13:45] <DWSR> It's even displaying the new UUID.
[13:45] <Xtreme> ActionParsnip, :) i asked alternative to get tv installed. :)
[13:45] <makara> an cli version of keepassx for working on a no-gui server?
[13:45] <limace255> for the moment, only reboot goes
[13:45] <Xtreme> no for teamviewer..
[13:45] <Xtreme> Not*
[13:45] <Xtreme> cant replace it bro.. :(
[13:45] <raub> DWSR: I think it is asking for the uuid of for /
[13:46] <CatKiller> limace255: Not sure what you mean, you could use /sys/class/host/hostX/scan maybe
[13:46] <DWSR> raub: Right, and I gave it the UUID for /
[13:46] <hitsujiTMO> raub: looks like the script is attempting to cp a file to the directory but whatever way its written its set write to the exact path ... maybe a bug in the post-install script
[13:46] <minimec> limace255: Didn't that help? http://abunchofbaloney.blogspot.ch/2012/11/reset-usb-ports-in-ubuntu-1210.html
[13:46] <yacc> limace255: or unload and reload the controller drivers?
[13:47] <raub> DWSR: lookup the grub2 docs. root= might allow you to use the device name instead of uuid
[13:47] <limace255> I tried this : echo -n "0000:00:1a.0" | tee /sys/bus/pci/drivers/ehci_hcd/unbind
[13:47] <limace255> device seen, but not loaded, I can't communicate with it
[13:47] <minimec> limace255: Something like this --> see third comment: echo -n "0000:00:1a.0" | sudo tee /sys/bus/pci/drivers/ehci-pci/unbind
[13:48] <limace255> tried modprobe -r but device busy
[13:48] <raub> hitsujiTMO: Kinda scary since it is one of my KDCs. good thins it is a slave
[13:49] <yacc> limace255: I was thinking more in terms of modprobe -r && modprobe
[13:49] <limace255> yep, me too :)
[13:49] <limace255> but Module is in use, he says
[13:50] <Dougie187> Is there a way in 13.10 to get the power options added to the HUD, like "Shut down" ?
[13:51] <limace255> I also had a look at udev stuffs, because when doing echo blabla, I see then my devices, just that I can't communicate
[13:51] <limace255> like they're not loaded
[13:52] <limace255> well, I've got to go, thx guys, be back tomorrow
[13:52] <hitsujiTMO> Dougie187: what do you mean by HUD?
[13:52] <Dougie187> hitsujiTMO: When you hold "Alt" it brings up the HUD.
[13:53] <raub> DWSR: on a diff note, your machine does not like /dev/sdf
[13:53] <hitsujiTMO> Dougie187: unity search  ?
[13:53] <kostkon> Dougie187: try searching for 'system'
[13:54] <selim> I'm using the latest 13.10 version but need a proxy for internet connection
[13:54] <Dougie187> selim: proxy is in "Network" under System Settings
[13:54] <selim> therefore I've configured a proxy in the control center network proxy part
[13:54] <hitsujiTMO> Dougie187: sorry, i get you now
[13:54] <selim> everything is working fine exept Software Center
[13:55] <Dougie187> hitsujiTMO: np. I use to be able to do this in 12.04 but I can't seem to figure out what I did to enable it. :P
[13:55] <siberiannerd> any advices on if i should upgrade to 13.10 or not yet?
[13:55] <selim> if I try to install a package there it starts but freezes then and does nothing
[13:55] <Dougie187> selim: You need to configure apt-get for a proxy too.
[13:55] <selim> Dougie187: how?
[13:55] <DWSR> raub: /dev/sdf is an old install. That menu entry was auto generated when I redid grub config.
[13:55] <selim> with apt.conf?
[13:55] <Dougie187> selim: yeah
[13:55] <selim> ok, I'll try
[13:56] <selim> do I need http/https and ftp?
[13:56] <Dougie187> selim you just put something in there like `Acquite::http::Proxy "http://proxy.com:port";`
[13:57] <selim> Dougie187: I've tried that but after adding this file the install button vanished from the software center package installation
[13:57] <Dougie187> selim: you have to update your package cache after you do that, I think
[13:57] <Dougie187> selim: `sudo apt-get update`
[13:59] <DWSR> raub: blkid from a recovery environment concludes that the partition that I'm looking for is, in fact, correctly specified.
[13:59] <DWSR> raub: So grub is just being....impatient?
[14:00] <selim> Dougie187: thank you I'll try that
[14:01] <raub> DWSR: could be. You can probably stop grub and enter data manually at bootime to see if ti works
[14:04] <DWSR> raub: Are you any good with grub? Whenever I boot to Grub, it looks like http://goo.gl/5Gwzom
[14:05] <Ziber> So, I upgraded to 13.10 a few days ago, and my wifi no longer appears to work. Network manager had some error about "not supported for this version".
[14:07] <Ziber> Anyone familiar with this error or how I might fix it?
[14:08] <raub> DWSR: So you are running grub1?
[14:09] <DWSR> raub: No, I'm running grub2.
[14:09] <Ziber> Also, all of my wifi networks appear to be "out of range".
[14:10] <eflynn> how i enable hibernation? i'm running ubuntu-gnome
[14:11] <SchroedingersKat> nick blorf
[14:11] <minimec> Ziber: If you upgraded, you should still have the latest running kernel from the old distribution. Choose that kernel once at boot.
[14:12] <hitsujiTMO> eflynn: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html
[14:15] <eflynn> hitsujiTMO: well... I did that. but it seems to be an issue with gnome
[14:16] <hitsujiTMO> eflynn what exactly do you mean?
[14:16] <eflynn> hitsujiTMO: there is no "Hibernate" option in gnome
[14:16] <eflynn> hitsujiTMO: it just says suspend
[14:16] <eflynn> very frustrating...
[14:17] <DWSR> raub: so I'm confused.
[14:17] <hitsujiTMO> eflynn http://askubuntu.com/questions/61138/how-can-i-hibernate-from-gnome-shell
[14:18] <hitsujiTMO> eflynn, the second answer
[14:18] <DWSR> raub: I add rootdelay=90 and still nothing. Grub is loaded from the same disk that / is on, and STILL it's complaining about not being able to find the right disk
[14:20] <eflynn> hitsujiTMO: I have that installed.
[14:20] <ceruleancity> DWSR: maybe your mbr table is messed up and things are pointing to the wrong place, as in your grub thinks it's on / but it's really not
[14:21] <hitsujiTMO> eflynn, what version of ubuntu?
[14:21] <eflynn> hitsujiTMO: 13.10
[14:21] <raub> DWSR: if you go to edir mode in the grub menu, you could manually edit and pass root=UUID=xxx
[14:21] <eflynn> hitsujiTMO: i'm going to restart and see what happens
[14:22] <DWSR> raub: UUID=xxx is how I have it specified in grub.cfg
[14:22] <DWSR> ceruleancity: Grub doesn't care where it is, it just cares where other things around.
[14:22] <DWSR> ceruleancity: BIOS loads GRUB, GRUB loads OS.
[14:23] <DWSR> ceruleancity: GRUB doesn't care where GRUB is, so long as it can find everything it needs (modules, config files, etc.)
[14:23] <DWSR> ceruleancity: GRUB can be on one disk and boot a Ubuntu install from another disk for all it cares.
[14:23] <DWSR> ceruleancity: The only reason I pointed it out is because GRUB is complaining about being unable to find a partition on the same disk.
[14:23] <raub> I take it is past the initrd step
[14:24] <DWSR> raub: initrd is the part where it loads up all the devices?
[14:24] <ceruleancity> interesting DWSR
[14:24] <minimec> DWSR: CAn you boot that installation if you choose /dev/sdf als boot disk? I guess it still has a working grub in the MBR,
[14:25] <minimec> DWSR: In the BIOS
[14:25] <ceruleancity> I guess what I meant to say was that maybe where BIOS thinks grub is is wrong
[14:25] <DWSR> minimec: /dev/sdf is inaccessible at boot time.
[14:25] <ceruleancity> or soemthing along those lines
[14:25] <helmut_> hi
[14:25] <DWSR> minimec: It's sitting behind a scsi HBA.
[14:25] <ceruleancity> I had a problem once that sounds similar to what you're talking about but unfortunately I can't remember the specifics...
[14:25] <DWSR> ceruleancity: If that was the case, you would get a much simpler boot error.
[14:25] <minimec> DWSR: I see...
[14:25] <ceruleancity> DWSR: or nothing at all!
[14:26] <raub> DWSR: it loads enough, like a miniboot. So it loads modules to deal with drives and raids and lvms and then it passes to the OS
[14:26] <DWSR> ceruleancity: Exactly.
[14:26] <DWSR> raub: So yes, it loads that stuff.
[14:26] <hitsujiTMO> DWSR: whats the exact problem: i can't see the history
[14:26] <ceruleancity> okay, must be a different problem DWSR sorry I can't help :(
[14:26] <DWSR> raub: So we're getting into initrd and then it's complaining.
[14:27] <raub> DWSR: AFAIK, the process is boot, initrd, then go to /
[14:27] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: https://www.dropbox.com/sc/98753nfoqlb6afb/lpW1_H3fLl <-- receiving this error when trying to boot. The disk that GRUB is on and initrd is on is the same disk that that partition it on and it is correctly specified in /etc/fstab and grub.cfg
[14:27] <yacc> Okay, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 13.04, and the installer complains that grub-efi-amd64-signed could not be installed, any idea?
[14:27] <ceruleancity> DWSR: Can you take another pic with more glare? I can almost see the screent here
[14:28] <DWSR> ceruleancity: You can see enough to figure out what the problem is, and you can't see the rest of my room. From my standpoint, good pic. ;)
[14:28] <hitsujiTMO> DWSR: doesnt look like a problem with grub
[14:28] <ceruleancity> DWSR :P
[14:29] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: The installation I'm trying to boot is working correctly (it was a Virtualbox virtual disk).
[14:29] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: And the disk is accessible from a Live environment.
[14:29] <raub> DWSR: this might hel a bit: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1399810
[14:30] <Ziber> Well, that was weird. Updated to 13.10 a few days ago, just had all sorts of networking, most particularly that all wifi networks, even those most definitely in range, were reporting "out of range". Deleting one of the networks (the one I wanted) and restarting networking and restarting the computer fixed it.
[14:30] <sveinse> Hi. I'm running Precise and gnome shell. And I am trying to connect via VPN (in NM) and I got an VPN error message with a message box where I accidentially pressed "don't show again". How can I reenable this message?
[14:31] <raub> DWSR: I think you should eb able to replace the uuid in root=UUID=c7fcf47c-7ee6-4fc7-9730-a1f5796e3338 for a device
[14:31] <DWSR> raub: Yeah, I'll try that next.
[14:31] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: Also, if you can figure out what https://www.dropbox.com/sc/fswbk517ryrhdqq/xOYIUWVZH9 happens, that would also be awesome.
[14:32] <raub> DWSR: asakurain kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/sdb2
[14:32] <raub> s/asakurain/as in
[14:33] <DWSR> raub: autocorrect?
[14:33] <raub> DWSR: which vm are you using: vbox,kvm. ?
[14:34] <raub> DWSR: exactly. I am a lous typist but autocorrect makes my lack of typing skills to be even worse
[14:34] <DWSR> raub: vbox. I converted the disk to a raw image and then dd'd it onto the disk. After I edited the partition table with gparted to take up the entire disk.
[14:35] <raub> Try to boot with the console window but not in full screen mode; it is chopping the left
[14:35] <raub> your grub menu ought to show a few options
[14:35] <godzirra> Hey guys.  I've got my dual monitors working on ubuntu through my laptop, but for some reason they are mirrored and I can't seem to get them unmirrored.  When I try and open my display preferences, it gives me an error about RANDR not being loaded, since I'm using xinerama.  How do I unmirror and set the resolution on my other monitor?
[14:37] <hitsujiTMO> DWSR what kernel are you using?
[14:37] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: Whatever the latest in the repo is. .54 I think?
[14:38] <OerHeks> DWSR that would be info you had to give right away, converting a disk to raw for use in vbox.
[14:38] <DWSR> OerHeks: Other way around.
[14:38] <minimec> godzirra: What kind og GPU? Restricted drivers or opensource drivers? Do you use a xorg.conf to configure the screens?
[14:39] <DWSR> OerHeks: Also, I did give that information earlier.
[14:39] <kk> after mysql reinstall when adding password to database root i can't login with this password
[14:39] <kk> can't either login with system root password, or without password
[14:39] <godzirra> minimec: intel.  I'm using an xorg.conf to configure the screens, but I'm using the default intel graphics driver in ubuntu (i.e. nothing in restricted drivers)
[14:40] <godzirra> One sec and I can post the xorg.conf
[14:40] <minimec> godzirra: Ok. Simply remove or rename that xorg.conf. You probably don't need it. INtel driver is handling well my two dual screen setups.
[14:41] <godzirra> I can't.
[14:41] <godzirra> I'm using a displaylink adapter.
[14:41] <godzirra> And it green screens if I don't have the xorg.conf
[14:41] <godzirra> http://pastebin.com/v4bdzpzB is my xorg.conf
[14:41] <godzirra> (displaylink is a usb adapter)
[14:42] <hitsujiTMO> DWSR are you able to mount the filesystem from the busybox prompt?
[14:42] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: Wouldn't know how to do that.
[14:42] <minimec> godzirra: You are a lucky man! S do I. You need to install a kernel from the kernel mainline. The ubuntu kernel doesn't handle the new driver very well. http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[14:43] <godzirra> minimec: Just to configure it?  :/  It works, I just can't configure it.
[14:43] <godzirra> And can I update the kernel via apt, or do I have to build and install my own>?
[14:44] <wjtaylor_> I'm using ubuntu server 12.04 and need to scroll back in the terminal to view output that is sent to stdout, not in logs... which package would allow this? screen?
[14:44] <godzirra> wjtaylor_: no package.  ctrl+a then [
[14:44] <godzirra> Then you can scroll up and down.
[14:44] <genii> Also shift-pageup
[14:44] <minimec> godzirra: Ypur choice. The new driver allows composite window managers and is configured with xrandr. It's working fine, but you need a vanilla kernel from the mainline repo.
[14:44] <godzirra> Oh neat.  I didn't know that worked in screen.
[14:45] <wjtaylor_> godzirra: Thanks!
[14:45] <wjtaylor_> genii: Thanks!
[14:45] <godzirra> minimec: Do you suggest a specific kernel version?  Or any 3.2.0?
[14:45] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: Should I Google it?
[14:46] <hitsujiTMO> dwsr use mount command
[14:46] <DWSR> also, hitsujiTMO http://paste.ubuntu.com/6283327/
[14:46] <DWSR> output from the bootinfo script
[14:47] <minimec> godzirra: I normally take the latest available for the distro. Install the header files too, in case you use vmware or virtualbox...
[14:48] <godzirra> Okay.  Installing linux-image-3.2.0-54-generic then.
[14:48] <godzirra> Huh.  I've already got those. :/
[14:48] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: Do I specify by /dev/sdXY?
[14:48] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: Or by UUID?
[14:49] <minimec> you can even take a kernel from a newer release normally. So a 'raring' kernel should work in 'precise'.
[14:49] <minimec> godzirra: you can even take a kernel from a newer release normally. So a 'raring' kernel should work in 'precise'.
[14:49] <godzirra> minimec: How new do I need for the new drivers though?
[14:49] <hitsujiTMO> DWSR:  are you trying to boot directoly to the zfs filesystem?
[14:50] <minimec> godzirra: Good question...
[14:50] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: Nope.
[14:50] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: Also, when it says that it's dropping me to a shell, I'm not able to interact with the computer at all.
[14:50] <hitsujiTMO> mount /dev/sdXY
[14:51] <hitsujiTMO> as in you busybox aint working?
[14:51] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: I think so, let me try it again, one second.
[14:51] <godzirra> kernel.ubuntu.org is so slow. :/
[14:51] <godzirra> minimec: Thanks for your help.  Afk for a few minutes to grab something to drink while this downloads.
[14:52] <Benkinooby> hi, i did a apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade but it ended with "W: Operation was interrupted before it could finish" - a second update && upgrade says there is nothing to do. how can i check if the first process did everything right?
[14:52] <godzirra> minimec: After installing the new kernel header and image, do I just remove the xorg.conf and reboot?  Seems like I should have to do more.
[14:52] <Benkinooby> Maybe the "W: Operation was interrupted before it could  finish"
[14:52] <Benkinooby> was related to localepurge?
[14:52] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: That would appear to be correct.
[14:53] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: My Busybox doesn't.....busybox.
[14:53] <hitsujiTMO> dwsr: enable legacy usb in your bios and see if that allows you to interact
[14:53] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: kk
[14:54] <minimec> godzirra: What kernel do you take? I use the 3.8 kernel. Just remove the xorg.conf and reboot. If you are lucky, you can activate the screen with the 'Display' menu.
[14:54] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: I can interact with grub just fine though
[14:54] <DWSR> and legacy USB support is already enabled.
[14:54] <minimec> godzirra: I had to do some additinal work for my special screen. See post #24 for my lenovo USB screen. https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=164385
[14:55] <hitsujiTMO> dwsr: can you replace the kernel and initramfs with one from your working ubuntu?
[14:55] <godzirra> minimec: I grabbed 3.9
[14:56] <godzirra> I'll read up.
[14:56] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: These were/are working if I boot to this disk image from Virtualbox.
[14:56] <minimec> godzirra: Ok. That should do.
[14:56] <godzirra> O
[14:56] <godzirra> I'm pretty sure I can't just remove the xorg.conf though.
[14:56] <godzirra> Because I'm using a fbdev device.
[14:56] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: How do I generate a new initramfs for this kernel?
[14:56] <hitsujiTMO> dwsr: please humour me
[14:56] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: Was in the process.
[14:56] <godzirra> We'll see though.
[14:58] <hitsujiTMO> dwsr just copy over the vmlinuz and initrd ( dont overwrite just change grub to point to these )
[14:58] <godzirra> ...  confused.
[14:58] <godzirra>  linux-headers-3.9.0-030900-generic depends on linux-headers-3.9.0-030900; however:
[14:58] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: The problem is, as I said before, the "working" installation isn't available at boot time.
[14:58] <godzirra> A package depending on itself seems bad.
[14:59] <DWSR> godzirra: Doesn't depend on itself.
[14:59] <ionelmc> is this correct place to ask about uploading packages to my ppa ?
[14:59] <Pici> ionelmc: #launchpad or #ubuntu-app-devel would be more appropriate
[14:59] <hitsujiTMO> dwsr can you not mount it in a working system and copy over?
[14:59] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: I thought you just said not to do that. :P
[14:59] <godzirra> Oh.  duh.
[14:59] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: I can mount it through Live, give me a minute.
[14:59] <godzirra> Its early, I'm slow.
[15:00] <DWSR> godzirra: s'ok.
[15:00] <minimec> godzirra: You need two header packages. Install this one first http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.9-saucy/linux-headers-3.9.0-030900_3.9.0-030900.201305071030_all.deb
[15:02] <godzirra> Yeah,I noticed that after.
[15:04] <godzirra> Alrighty.  Rebooting.  Wish me luck.
[15:06] <l00p3d> hi there. is it possible to run a web server in a virtual machine of ubuntu? not just a local server but one I want to use to a host a website to the entire world
[15:06] <hitsujiTMO> l00p3d: yes
[15:07] <l00p3d> would i use the default virtual machine settings, where the connection is shared with the host computer (Mac)
[15:07] <l00p3d> ?
[15:07] <MarcN> Anyone seeing strangeness with large files on  encrypted /home in 13.10? 41G disk truncated to 4.1G
[15:07] <l00p3d> for networking settings, it says "Shared: with my computer"
[15:07] <l00p3d> for the ubuntu VM
[15:07] <hitsujiTMO> l00p3d: what virtualisation software are you using?
[15:08] <l00p3d> hitsujiTMO VMWare Fusion 6
[15:08] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: Ok, copied everything over.
[15:08] <genii> MarcN: If you installed by wubi max filesize is limited to right around there.
[15:08] <hitsujiTMO> dwsr: config grub to load it and boot it
[15:08] <DWSR> I just replaced the files.
[15:08] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: And backed up the originals.
[15:09] <hitsujiTMO> can you boot and use busybox now?
[15:09] <DWSR> booting now.
[15:10] <hitsujiTMO> l00p3d: configure the networking to use bridged networking
[15:11] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: Still can't interact with busybox.
[15:11] <MarcN> genii, I just upgraded from 13.04.  Upgraded overnight and this morning VirtualBox complained about my 40G VM.
[15:11] <DWSR> dunno if it's the system freezing or busybox not working or what.
[15:11] <DWSR> I get no (initramfs) prompt though
[15:11] <hitsujiTMO> dwsr can you post your grub config?
[15:12] <loulan> hi
[15:12] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: It was posted in the bootinfo output.
[15:12] <loulan> do any of you guys know why I can't find amd64-microcode with apt-get?
[15:12] <loulan> I'm confused, I really need this package
[15:12] <MarcN> genii, rsync'ed the vdi from a known good backup, ls -lsh showed 4.1G (vs 41G) for the new file for a while, then went to 41G.  But then back to 4.1G after VB trying to boot from it.  Yes, small file now.
[15:13] <MarcN> genii,  restoring to a non-encrypted directory and will try again...
[15:15] <loulan> E: Unable to locate package amd64-microcode
[15:15] <loulan> it seems to be in the repositories...
[15:15] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: I'm booting from sdq, just for context.
[15:21] <godzirra> minimec: So far so good.  I'm following the post you linked though, and it says to add the mode via xrandr to DVI-0, which it can't find.  How do I figure out what device to add my new modeline to?
[15:21] <hitsujiTMO> dwsr: can you boot to the grub prompt
[15:22] <DWSR> yes
[15:22] <hitsujiTMO> at grub prompt type: ls
[15:23] <minimec> godzirra: welcome back. Just a question. Did you blacklistsome stuff before in modprobe.d , when you used the other kernel with the xorg.conf?
[15:24] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: k, one sec let me boot back
[15:24] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: Most of the prompt is cut off.
[15:25] <sandeepr_ltp> does anyone know the link to download the nmon analyser?
[15:25] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: Since I'm having that stupid fucking "everything is shifted to the left" bug.
[15:25] <jmgk> sandeepr_ltp:  which one?
[15:25] <alumno> hi; is this working???????
[15:25] <godzirra> minimec: Nope.  But it may be blacklisted since its a company installed image.  How do I look?
[15:25] <DWSR> nevermind, fixed.
[15:25] <godzirra> framebuffer is blacklisted.
[15:26] <hitsujiTMO> dwsr: analog or digital connection from monitor to pc?
[15:26] <hitsujiTMO> kk
[15:26] <godzirra> I don't see anything else relevant to video, but i'm still looking.
[15:26] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: Analog and I fixed it. I just let the monitor auto adjust and it's sorted now.
[15:26] <hitsujiTMO> type ls at grub prompt plz. show the output
[15:26] <sandeepr_ltp> got it
[15:27] <alumno> someone please helloooooooo
[15:27] <minimec> godzirra: Ok. So when you boot up, the usb screen is black. It's not visible in the 'Display' menu at all?
[15:27] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: output: (hd0) (hd0,msdos5) (hd0,msdos1) (hd1) (hd1,msdos2) (hd1,msdos1) (hd2) (hd3) (hd4) (hd5) (hd6)
[15:27] <godzirra> minimec: Correct.
[15:27] <ceruleancity> lol alumno
[15:27] <ceruleancity> what's the deal
[15:28] <minimec> godzirra: When you unplug/plug it and read out dmesg... Can you 'pastebin' the last 10 lines of the output of dmesg?
[15:28] <godzirra> Yup.  one moment.
[15:28] <hitsujiTMO> dwsr: ls (hd0,msdos1)
[15:29] <paulo_gomes> hi all, what is the channel to question about amd proprietary graphic drivers?
[15:30] <godzirra> http://pastebin.com/VyDmxJFF
[15:30] <l00p3d> hitsujiTMO: should I run the web server on the host (mac) or is the virtual machine idea good one
[15:30] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: output: Partition hd0,msdos1: Filesystem type ext2 - Lost modification time 2013-10-22 15:08:39 Tuesday, UUID fa9a6a3c-a3fb-407c-8952-d4a5d642af84 - Partition start at 2048 - Total size 455626752 sectors
[15:30] <DrBunsenBurns> I second paulo_games his question
[15:30] <Ari-Yang> DrBunsenBurns: yeah well he QUIT
[15:30] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: (The UUID is the right one, just in case I typo'd).
[15:31] <Ari-Yang> DrBunsenBurns: it's #ati but the channel is dead... you could try #radeon
[15:31] <DrBunsenBurns> thanks bro
[15:31] <Ari-Yang> np
[15:31] <paulo_gomes> thnks
[15:31] <hitsujiTMO> dwsr: ls (hd0,msdos1)/boot
[15:32] <cmmd> Hey guys, I have a question, purchased a used laptop on ebay and it came with ubuntu, but the root password is wrong, is it possible to reinstall it without the CD just from the system itself? thanks
[15:32] <minimec> godzirra: Ok. The device doesn't get registred. It's the output I was used to see, when I runned an Ubuntu kernel. Are you sure you booted that 3.9 kernel? What is uname -a saying?
[15:32] <BluesKaj> paulo_gomes. which graphics/card drivers?
[15:33] <minimec> godzirra: But.. it is loading the 'new' udldrmfb driver.
[15:33] <paulo_gomes> BluesKaj: AMD Radeon HD 6300M Series
[15:34] <paulo_gomes> BluesKaj: my backlight is off :(
[15:34] <paulo_gomes> BluesKaj: works fine on external monitor (im on laptop)
[15:34] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: output: vmlinuz-3.2.0-29-virtual abi-3.2.0-29-virtual System.map-3.2.0-29-virtual grub/ vmlinuz-3.2.0-54-virtual abi-3.2.0-54-virtual config-3.2.0-29-virtual initrd.img-3.2.0-29 virtual config-3.2.0-54 virtual initrd.img-3.2.0-54-virtual-orig vmlinuz-3.2.0-54-virtual-orig System.map-3.2.0-54-virtual initrd.img-3.2.0-54-virtual
[15:34] <Tuna-Fish> I'm trying to set up ipv6. I now have full ipv6 connectivity on machine 1 (router), it is running radvd, and machine 2 (client) gets an address from it, and can do dns lookups over ipv6. However, machine 2 fails to ping anything
[15:34] <Tuna-Fish> how can I troubleshoot this?
[15:35] <Tuna-Fish> as in pings are sent, no replies
[15:35] <godzirra> cmmd: No.  Just burn a new cd or f lash drive and reinstall.
[15:35] <godzirra> First thing I checked.  Definitely 3.9.
[15:35] <godzirra> Linux q  3.9.0-030900-generic #201304291257 SMP Mon Apr 29 16:58:15 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:35] <godzirra> minimec: Was that a question or statement?  And if a question, how do I check/
[15:35] <godzirra> Interesting.  irssi is telling me I'm up to 217 lag.  (not sure what that's measured in)
[15:35] <FloodBot1> godzirra: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:35] <minimec> godzirra: Ok. The device doesn't get registred. It's the output I was used to see, when I runned an Ubuntu kernel. Are you sure you booted that 3.9 kernel? What is uname -a saying?
[15:36] <minimec> godzirra: uname -a
[15:36] <godzirra> O.o  ... How was I flooding?
[15:36] <godzirra> minimec: I already pasted that
[15:36] <godzirra> Linux q  3.9.0-030900-generic #201304291257 SMP Mon Apr 29 16:58:15 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:36] <godzirra> minimec: Linux q  3.9.0-030900-generic #201304291257 SMP Mon Apr 29 16:58:15 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:37] <godzirra> minimec: Sorry, it wasn't directed to you when I pasted earlier.
[15:37] <Benkinooby> hi, i did a apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade but it ended with "W: Operation was interrupted before it could finish" - a second update && upgrade says there is nothing to do. how can i check if the first process did everything right?
[15:37] <BluesKaj> paulo_gomes. sorry , don't know how to help
[15:37] <DWSR> godzirra: You had a lag spike, so all of your lines got pushed to the channel at once, instead of as you typed them.
[15:38] <paulo_gomes> BluesKaj: ok, tnks anyway :)
[15:38] <godzirra> DWSR: Ohhhh.  Sorry.  Let me try changing servers.  I'm still getting tons of lag.
[15:38] <BluesKaj> nvidia , maybe , ati is too hit and miss
[15:39] <hitsujiTMO> dwsr: grub is ok for sure then, only thing i can think is that the virtual kernel is compiled without something you need. try put the generic kernel instead
[15:39] <minimec> godzirra: I see. Strange... Ok. If you have the time, put your xorg.conf back again and boot the default ubuntu kernel. Then we check dmesg, to see what driver it loads. Looks like your USB to DVI adapter prefers it that way.... I am surprised.
[15:39] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: Can I pull the generic kernel from the Live environment?
[15:39] <hitsujiTMO> dwsr: i'm not sure if that is compiled the same or not, but you can try
[15:40] <poizen> hello guys
[15:40] <DWSR> ok. Other than that what would you recommend? I *need* the image to boot this particular way. A reinstallation is NOT an option.
[15:40] <minimec> godzirra: You could though check /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuffer.conf at the end if you see 'blacklist udlfb'.
[15:40] <hitsujiTMO> dwsr: i cant think of anything else i'm afraid
[15:41] <hitsujiTMO> dwsr: not without you being able to boot to busybox atleast
[15:41] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: How can I fix that then?
[15:42] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: I have a live environment, so I can pretty much do whatever it takes to get it to work
[15:42] <hitsujiTMO> dwsr: try the generic kernel first
[15:42] <godzirra> minimec: okay... back.  Did I miss anything you asked?
[15:42] <minimec> godzirra: You could though check /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuffer.conf at the end if you see 'blacklist udlfb'.
[15:42] <godzirra> minimec: I grepped for udlfb in /etc/modprobe.d and got no hits.
[15:42] <godzirra> minimec: I also don't get udlfb if I do an lsmod either though.
[15:43] <DWSR> godzirra: try insmod udlfb?
[15:43] <minimec> godzirra: So it loads udldrmfb?
[15:43] <godzirra> minimec: that isn't in lsmod either.  Should I try loading udlfb?
[15:43] <godzirra> DWSR: Just confirming thats the one I need to load first.
[15:45] <cesar_bo> I have successfully implement OAuth Authorization with Ubuntu One to use it with a web application.So it works, it's great I'm happy about that. But I can't share a folder using the web api. Anyone have an idea how to do this using OAuth?
[15:46] <godzirra> minimec: http://pastebin.com/76Edgvsf is the paste of what I get after I plug in the adapter after loading udlfb.
[15:46] <cesar_bo> I post this question in askubuntu, have no clues until now http://askubuntu.com/questions/363841/how-to-share-a-folder-using-the-ubuntu-one-web-api, any help will be greatly appreciate it
[15:46] <hitsujiTMO> cesar_bo: #ubuntu-app-devel would be a more suitable channel for such a question
[15:46] <minimec> godzirra: Ok. And you are running on 12.04 I guess. Indeed udlfb is not blacklisted.
[15:47] <cesar_bo> hitsujiTMO: thanks, will have a look
[15:47] <godzirra> minimec: correct, 12.04
[15:47] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: The live environment only has -0.29-generic.
[15:47] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: Also, where do I pull the initramfs from?
[15:47] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: Or do I even need to bother?
[15:48] <hitsujiTMO> dwsr: just pull the vmlinuz and intitrd
[15:48] <DWSR> kk
[15:48] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: Do I need to worry about permissions?
[15:49] <minimec> godzirra: Ok. So... If you add 'blacklist udlfb' to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuffer.conf, I would give it another try removing the xorg.conf and booting the 3.9 kernel... debugging is ugly ;)
[15:49] <hitsujiTMO> dwsr, not really, 644 should be ok
[15:50] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: Can't stat /boot/vmlinuz....?
[15:50] <DWSR> Where the fuck is the vmlinuz and initrd located on a live medium?
[15:51] <canaima_> CANAIMA
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> DWSR  no prphanity please
[15:52] <dannymichel> Anybody here a master at font configurations? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2182682&p=12824482#post12824482 maybe can help me with that issue?
[15:55] <hitsujiTMO> dwsr: have you tried chrooting to the filesystem?
[15:55] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: chrooting to the filesystem of the liveUSB or the installed one?
[15:55] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: Because I did that to install grub.
[15:56] <hitsujiTMO> from the live to the installed
[15:56] <DWSR> I just can't figure out where the vmlinuz and initrd reside on the live USB medium.
[15:57] <hitsujiTMO> dwsr ... wait, why did you need to install grub?
[15:57] <BassSultan> hi
[15:58] <BassSultan> can anyone help me out with a keyboard problem in lubuntu?
[15:58] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: I needed to install grub to the MBR of the disk I wrote the image to
[15:58] <hitsujiTMO> dwsr, ahh kk ... i presumed you meant actually install grub-pc
[15:58] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: Ah, no.
[15:59] <LordDeath> I have a parallels VM with no working UI. right now I am in the terminal and I want to access the "parallels tools" cdrom
[15:59] <ajudafast3nvidia> hi evebody
[15:59] <ajudafast3nvidia> i need help
[15:59] <LordDeath> but for some reason I can't find the path :(
[15:59] <hitsujiTMO> dwsr, try chrooting and and run apt-get install linux-image-generic
[15:59] <str> Hi eveyone!
[15:59] <rawrmonster> This is a visual problem so it is not really important but just wanted to see if any else was having the same issue with ubuntu 13.10. My sound icon does not display the correct sound level it is just stuck in one spot. The mixer still works perfect, it is just when that mixer bar disappears the quick glance part only shows half even though it is at full sound.
[15:59] <godzirra_> Bleh.
[15:59] <godzirra_> minimec:  No luck.  It didn't load udldrmfb.  I'm trying to load it manually.
[16:00] <ajudafast3nvidia> my ubuntu update 13.4-for 13.10 it1s bug because all folder that i click close the window
[16:00] <str> Is there a way to upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 using the downloaded 13.10 ISO without burning the image nor downloading the packages again?
[16:01] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: In progress.
[16:01] <DWSR> Forgot I could just do that and have the kernel appear. :D
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> str  try do-release-upgrade
[16:01] <ajudafast3nvidia> yes but i dont' want format it my friend do update and no bug
[16:03] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: It's complaining about not having the headers. I assume it's safe to ignore?
[16:03] <hitsujiTMO> whats the exact error?
[16:04] <Ari-Yang> DWSR: you should really always have the headers of your kernel :/
[16:04] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: Error! Your kernel headers for kernel 3.2.0-54-generic cannot be found. Please install the linux-headers-3.2.0-54-generic package.
[16:04] <str> MonkeyDust, sudo do-release-upgrade --data-dir=/media/where-the-iso-is-mounted ?
[16:04] <makerbreaker> hi, how do i disable the unity task bar notifications?
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> str: I believe there is an upgrade script on the ISO if you mount it
[16:04] <vlt> Hello. When I create a new user why is its homedir created in a way that every other user can access it?
[16:05] <hitsujiTMO> dwsr install linux-headers-generic
[16:05] <DWSR> vlt: Because that's how it's specified in /etc/skel, I imagine.
[16:05] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: I installed the version specific headers, which I assume is what that metapackage does.
[16:05] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: Can I do a "redo" on the installation of the generic kernel?
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> str  no, you don't need the iso, if you upgrade with do-release-upgrade
[16:05] <dannymichel> Anybody here a master at font configurations? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2182682&p=12824482#post12824482 maybe can help me with that issue?
[16:05] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: Like a dpkg reconfigure or something
[16:06] <vlt> DWSR: I’m sure I didn’t change that. Is this the Ubuntu default setting?
[16:06] <hitsujiTMO> dwsr, apt-get install --reinstall
[16:06] <DWSR> vlt: I believe so, yes.
[16:06] <str> MonkeyDust, I want to use the ISO, I don't want to download  all files AGAIN
[16:06] <hitsujiTMO> vlt, yes its default
[16:06] <zykotick9> vlt: rx is default for home dir's in debian and thus ubuntu...
[16:06] <str> ActionParsnip, I didn't found any upgrade scripts in the ISO
[16:06]  * vlt head => desk
[16:07] <DWSR> vlt: I believe that /etc/skel specifies that home directories are rw-r--r--
[16:07] <MonkeyDust> str  ok, then i don't know
[16:07] <hitsujiTMO> dwsr, usually best to install the meta, so the headers keep up with the kernel on dist-upgrades
[16:07] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: Yeah, I'll go back and do that right after. I'm just asking so that I'm not wasting time.
[16:08] <DWSR> Good christ this post-install takes as while.
[16:08] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: btw I have like 19 drives in here. I'm going to assume that that's not the cause of this error?
[16:09] <hitsujiTMO> dwsr: should not
[16:09] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: Desktop case with 19 drives is pretty hilarious, by the way.
[16:09] <hitsujiTMO> dwsr , i can imagine
[16:10] <sandeepr_ltp> will the nmon-analyser.xls file not work on a ubuntu system? libreoffice calc - analyse nmon data does not do anything?
[16:12] <Bauer> The 13.10 is now final? just to be sure
[16:12] <Pici> Bauer: yes
[16:14] <Ari-Yang> Bauer: but it might be buggy ;o
[16:14] <Bauer> Ari-Yang:  why? are you recommending to put off upgrading for a while?
[16:15] <Ari-Yang> Bauer: no I'm not, just saying there might be bugs though. Do whatever you want.
[16:15] <hitsujiTMO> bauer: its just out, its stable for 99.9% of peeps, but theres always some major bugs that seep thru the cracks
[16:16] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I permanently terminate the KDE accessible? I kill it, but it just runs again!!!
[16:16] <Bauer>  its not as if 13.04 is perfect :P
[16:16] <Spr1ng> I'm getting emails from one of my servers indicating that one the mount points /boot is at 93%.  This location just contains GRUB and a few other initrd files.  I have three questions.  How does /boot grow in size given it's function?  How can I determine which boot files I need to retain?  And can I delete everything else that is not used?  Contents of directory: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7103496
[16:17] <Bauer> 13.04 has its own bugs, but I no longer get some non-critical upgrades for 13.04
[16:17] <hitsujiTMO> spring purge old kernels
[16:17] <vlt> Spr1ng: Yes, kernels won’t get overridden.
[16:17] <Spr1ng> hitsujiTMO: how do i know which kernels i can purge?  Is there a config file I can reference which shows the kernels in use?
[16:17] <synsolnca> Hi everyone. I've installed Ubuntu 13.10, but I have windows 7 on sdd disk. Why doesn't grub see it?
[16:17] <Ari-Yang> [12:17:08] <Bauer> 13.04 has its own bugs, but I no longer get some non-critical upgrades for 13.04 ---> so? then there aren't any "non-critical upgrades" for 13.04
[16:17] <Ari-Yang> at the time at least
[16:17] <vlt> Spr1ng: Use your packet manager.
[16:17] <cmm2K8> hi. someone
[16:17] <hitsujiTMO> spring whats the ouput of: uname -r
[16:18] <moppy> one of my ubuntu 12.04s won't restart under software control due to some acpi issue (needs physical access to cycle the power or use the switch). what to do?
[16:18] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I permanently terminate the KDE accessible? I kill it, but it just runs again!!! (I have upgraded to ubuntu 13.10, I had this problem before and I solved it. (I do not remember how), now after upgrading it comes back again)
[16:18] <ajudafast3nvidia> i go format here saucer bug the actions click here i think that it can be wrong of nauilus and nvidia
[16:18] <Spr1ng> hitsujiTMO: 3.5.0-41-generic
[16:18] <Bauer> Ari-Yang:  wrong, few months ago I reported bug with the Empathy, and the fix is not given to 13.04 due to it being not worth the hassle
[16:18] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: After installing the generic image, should I just reboot and try to boot again?
[16:18] <Bauer> I imagine a lot of stuff gets similar treatement
[16:19] <Bauer> I get too many annoying issues, the Facebook and Google account authorization always stops working on 13.04 after a while
[16:19] <Bauer> its very annoying
[16:19] <Ari-Yang> [12:18:41] <Bauer> Ari-Yang:  wrong, few months ago I reported bug with the Empathy, and the fix is not given to 13.04 due to it being not worth the hassle ---> then compile from source?
[16:19] <Ari-Yang> :|
[16:20] <Ari-Yang> [12:19:17] <Bauer> its very annoying ---> then just upgrade to 13.10
[16:20] <cmm2K8> hi
[16:20] <hitsujiTMO> spring: sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.5.0-40-generic linux-image-3.5.0-39-generic linux-image-3.5.0-37-generic linux-image-3.5.0-34-generic linux-image-3.5.0-32-generic linux-image-3.5.0-23-generic
[16:20] <Ari-Yang> Bauer: or use 12.04 LTS
[16:20] <hitsujiTMO> dwsr, yup reboot
[16:20] <Bauer> Ari-Yang: I prefer to avoid compiling from sources, because that means I manually have to keep installing updates, and cant rely on repositories
[16:21] <DWSR> holy shit it works.
[16:21] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: Wicked.
[16:21] <Spr1ng> hitsujiTMO: thanks for the info man.  much appreciated :P
[16:21] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: Apparently missing a kernel mod.
[16:21] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I permanently terminate the KDE accessible? I kill it, but it just runs again!!! (I have upgraded to ubuntu 13.10, I had this problem before and I solved it. (I do not remember how), now after upgrading it comes back again)
[16:21] <Ari-Yang> Bauer: you can rely on repositories, especially from git :| and manually installing updates is easy and would take maybe 3min
[16:21] <Ari-Yang> !empathy
[16:21] <hitsujiTMO> dwsr: find out which it is and install/build it for your kernel
[16:22] <Bauer> Ari-Yang: well, I will survive until 14.04 LTS, and then stay on that...  its a production platform, I dont want to waste hours fixing small things, I have better things I want to do  except tinkering with linux bugs all my free evening
[16:22] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: Or just run the generic kernel. :P
[16:22] <hitsujiTMO> dwsr: ah as in virtual was missing kernel mod?
[16:23] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: Yes.
[16:23] <Ari-Yang> Bauer: k
[16:23] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: How can I regenerate all of the kernel mods for the kernel version that I'm using at the moment.
[16:24] <Bauer> Ari-Yang: I didnt know, even if updating and  installing from git is 3 mins work, it means I have to manually check every such package and app.. instead of running 2 apt-get commands
[16:24] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: I'm using zfs-on-linux and it installs a kernel module that won't autoload because it's not int he right place.
[16:24] <hitsujiTMO> dwsr, yeah, virtual is compiled without support for hardware that isn't typically found in virtual machine, so thats what was missing
[16:24] <hitsujiTMO> dwsr, reinstall the zfs mod
[16:24] <Ari-Yang> Bauer: k
[16:26] <Oneill> hi everyone, trying to configure pptp-linux to connect to a pptp vpn server (windows server)
[16:26] <Oneill> im getting lcp timeouts, pretty sure the server isn't responding
[16:26] <Oneill> anyone familiar with this?
[16:26] <hitsujiTMO> dwsr, i'd also recommend putting the kernel on hold if your relying on mods not in the repo. that way u can manually update then kernel and the mods at the same time
[16:27] <Benkinooby> hi, i have to transmit a sensitive file to a person that is pretty clueless about computers and uses windows (so ssh and alike are out). any suggstions? encrypt the file and use mail?
[16:27] <hitsujiTMO> Benkinooby: yes ... how big is the file?
[16:27] <Oneill> Benkinooby https://www.wetransfer.com/
[16:27] <Benkinooby> hitsujiTMO: 1 MB at most
[16:27] <hitsujiTMO> Benkinooby: just encrypt an email
[16:28] <hitsujiTMO> and*
[16:28] <DWSR> hitsujiTMO: If I hold the meta packages for the headers and the images, it will achieve the desired effect, correc?
[16:29] <hitsujiTMO> dwsr yes
[16:29] <hitsujiTMO> apt-mark hold linux-image-generic      etc
[16:29] <Benkinooby> hitsujiTMO: yes that's my first thought to. but i have to encrypt it in a way the person can decrypt again
[16:29] <Benkinooby> hitsujiTMO: i am not sure, if a encrypted zip file will do
[16:30] <tado> hey. i will soon be travelling in a different country and will sometimes need to connect to the internet through my home computer, as some things require the IP to be there. how can i do that? is it enough to set up a remote access or do i have to set up a proxy? can't really figure it out from what i read online...
[16:30] <kostkon> Benkinooby, you mean a password protected zip?
[16:31] <Benkinooby> kostkon: is that the same as encrypted. i want to avoid that these files are lying around on the mail providers servers just like that
[16:31] <hitsujiTMO> Benkinooby: encrypted zip should do, just choose a strong password and supply the password in a secure means
[16:31] <Benkinooby> hitsujiTMO: ok
[16:31] <CatKiller> tado: Setup a VPN like "OpenVPN". Easier
[16:31] <kostkon> Benkinooby, no. password protected zip files can be easily cracked.
[16:31] <kostkon> !pgp | Benkinooby
[16:31] <tado> CatKiller: can you explain me how to do that?
[16:32] <Benkinooby> kostkon: oh, i wanted to use a "?" i know there is a difference
[16:32] <CatKiller> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN#Setting_up_a_Bridged_VPN_using_OpenVPN
[16:32] <kostkon> Benkinooby, create a key encrypt the file with that key, give the public key to the other party, tell them how to use it on windows
[16:32] <kostkon> gpg key*
[16:33] <Benkinooby> kostkon: do they need any additional software to decrypt?
[16:33] <Kalel> Greetings.
[16:33] <kostkon> Benkinooby, no idea
[16:33] <tado> CatKiller: glad you said that's easier :S
[16:34] <Kalel> I've got a big damn problem.
[16:34] <CatKiller> tado: Easier than using SSH tunnels
[16:34] <tado> CatKiller: can i automatically appear as a server when I set this up, or do i need to do something else in order to do that?
[16:34] <kostkon> Benkinooby, you'll need to do some research maybe find an nice and easy windows app for that. check also the wiki page from above ^^
[16:35] <CatKiller> tado: "automatically appear as a server?"
[16:35] <hitsujiTMO> Benkinooby: the zip should be fine if you use aes-256
[16:35] <CatKiller> tado: Maybe using a proxy is easier for you
[16:35] <ping__> how to fix Login fails and returns to login screen
[16:35] <Benkinooby> kostkon: i am not sure if installing an app is an option - i read the wiki
[16:35] <CatKiller> tado: Please note that in both cases you're going to need to configure your router so that your proxy/vpn can be accessed from the WAN
[16:35] <Kalel> Later I had installed the new 3.11 kernel, my wi-fi isn't working properly.
[16:35] <kostkon> Benkinooby, ok
[16:36] <tado> CatKiller: I'm happy to try out with a VPN, but i have very limited knowledge of these things, so the simpler the better. would setting up a proxy be easier?
[16:36] <Kalel> ping__: I already had that problem. The only choice was reinstall my system.
[16:36] <Benkinooby> kostkon: also, it's not like it is super super super secret. then i wouldn't send it over the internet at all :P
[16:36] <CatKiller> tado: Setting up a proxy is most likely easier. Though you will still need to configure your router.
[16:36] <kostkon> Benkinooby, right
[16:36] <Benkinooby> kostkon: thank you for your advice though.. sooner or later i want to look into pgp anyway
[16:36] <ping__> Kalel, damn
[16:36] <CatKiller> tado: And you'll have to be able to locate your router on the Internet if it changes IP often
[16:37] <Kalel> ping__: Some say to change own of the .xautority, therefore didn't worked for me.
[16:37] <ping__> can fix
[16:37] <moppy> one of my ubuntu 12.04s won't restart under software control due to some acpi issue (needs physical access to cycle the power or use the switch). what to do?
[16:37] <kostkon> Benkinooby, also ubuntu comes with seahorse, a gui app for managing and creating various keys for your system and yourself
[16:37] <Benkinooby> hitsujiTMO: ok. i read that too somewhere, but the man page says nothing about AES - i will investigeate
[16:37] <Pici> cmm2K8: FloodBot1 is a bot, not a person. #ubuntu is for support only. If you're looking for a social channel, we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:37] <tado> CatKiller: any how-tos on how to set up a proxy? i can get someone to locate my ip here at home, that shouldn't be a problem
[16:37] <Benkinooby> kostkon: good to know! heard that keymanagement is a topic on its own
[16:38] <kostkon> Benkinooby, :)
[16:40] <CatKiller> tado: How about this: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/squid.html
[16:41] <dum3_> somebody could tell me how can download as a ZIP or directly import to Netbeans the files that are in the URL https://svn.java.net/svn/jgpss~framework/ ??  Thanks
[16:41] <tado> CatKiller: i'll look into both and get back if i have specific questions. thanks for pointing me in that direction
[16:42] <Kalel> My wi-fi isn't working later installed the new kernel. Is the only issue discovered until now. As well...
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> Kalel: are there any bugs reported?
[16:49] <SuperLag> If you've got $APP that is complaining about not being able to load a shared library when you try to run it, how do you figure out which package is missing? The obvious ones seem to be installed already. --> error while loading shared libraries: libX11.so.6
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> SuperLag: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[16:50] <SuperLag> I'm on 13.10
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> SuperLag: seems to be /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6    or   /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> SuperLag: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=saucy&section=all&arch=any&keywords=libX11.so.6&searchon=contents
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> !info libx11-6 | SuperLag
[16:51] <feedor> Device contains neither a valid DOS partition table, nor Sun, SGI or OSF disklabel
[16:52] <SuperLag> Oh... didn't think about the 32-bit of that.
[16:53] <SuperLag> That did the trick.
[16:54] <SuperLag> Thank you.
[16:54] <hitsujiTMO> feeder: whats giving that error and what did you do to the disk?
[16:54] <hitsujiTMO> feedor even: whats giving that error and what did you do to the disk?
[16:56] <Kalel> No, there isn't... ActionPartnership, whatever you are right now.
[17:03] <jubale> Is it possible to install programs such as mmv, awffull, or Chrome browser onto another partition while keeping their presence seen as if they're installed in default location?
[17:04] <jubale> Or would that require using a script to automate symlinking?
[17:06] <cromag> hi, when i sudo apt-get update on my newly updated ubuntu, it takes a LONG time reading package list - and a lot of IO wait - is there a known fix for this ? :)
[17:07] <jubale> cromag: I may be able to assist you, would you paste output received following 'apt-get update'?
[17:09] <cromag> jubale: well, i'm still waiting, so i guess 15 minutes or so
[17:09] <user_corupt> I just installed eclipse; moved its whole folder to /op, made an entry in unity, so it does appear as an installed app... my problem is that "File, Edit, View..." menu isn't linked to the app... does anyone know how to fix that?
[17:10] <Daemoen> can anyone explain why a binary package for ruby requires gcc and cpp ?
[17:10] <bean> to compile it?
[17:14] <akSriv> hi, i had joined the freenode as username ak, but now it is always showing that the username is taken.. the fact is tht it has been taken by me but am not being allowed to use
[17:14] <godzirra_> Howdy.
[17:14] <godzirra_> So why can I not talk in the channel once I change to godzirra and I'm registered?
[17:15] <CatKiller> akSriv: Tried #freenode ?
[17:15] <CatKiller> godzirra_: Maybe your nick is banned from voice
[17:16] <cromag> jubale: any specifics you need from the output maybe ?
[17:16] <godzirra_> CatKiller: That would be odd.
[17:16] <akShri> hi, i had joined the freenode as username ak, but now it is always showing that the username is taken.. the fact is tht it has been taken by me but am not being allowed to use
 akSriv: Tried #freenode ?
[17:17] <Pici> akShri: This is #Ubuntu. Please ask #freenode
[17:17] <akShri> ok..
[17:18] <sleezio> hello, i've recently installed 13.10...in mint 14, my usb external drive was fast, roughly 35M a second....with ubuntu 13.10, my transfer is 600k...what is causing this slow file transfer between harddrive and usb external?
[17:18] <Pici> godzirra_: Because the way that our webchat things work in #ubuntu, you can't switch your nick if you're using that... yes, its a bit silly.
[17:18] <godzirra_> Pici:  Oh.  Weird.  Okay.
[17:18] <godzirra_> Thanks for the info.
[17:18] <jubale> cromag: No specifics, i'ts easier to see the output.
[17:20] <user_corupt> does anyone know how to launch eclipse in such a way that it will keep its "file, edit, view.." menu on top of its own window?
[17:20] <m3kk> I also can't enable(or see/fetch) any restricted drivers without crash because of reasons
[17:20] <user_corupt> is there maybe something i can add to the launcher to force this?
[17:22] <hitsujiTMO> sleezio: different filesystem support modules
[17:22] <hitsujiTMO> sleezio: what filesystem is it?
[17:22] <sleezio> from ext4 to ntfs
[17:22] <sleezio> oops
[17:22] <sleezio> reverse that
[17:22] <sleezio> from ntfs to ext4
[17:23] <hitsujiTMO> sleezio: as in the usb device is ntfs?
[17:23] <sleezio> yes
[17:24] <hitsujiTMO> sleezio: ok, it should be faster, also, ubuntu could be seeing it as a usb 1.1 device
[17:24] <sleezio> hitsujiTMO, copying from ext4 to ntfs speed seems to be ok, it's only when i pull it back to ext4
[17:25] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I permanently terminate the KDE accessible? I kill it, but it just runs again!!! (I have upgraded to ubuntu 13.10, I had this problem before and I solved it. (I do not remember how), now after upgrading it comes back again)
[17:25] <zeep> what's the equivalent of dpkg -s <pkg> but for a package not installed?
[17:25] <hitsujiTMO> sleezio: sounds like the filesystem module then, but i've not heard of such an issue with ubuntu 13.10 and that
[17:25] <sleezio> hitsujiTMO, my usb is hooked up to my router...how can i get ubuntu to see whether it's seeing it as 1.1 or 2?
[17:26] <hitsujiTMO> sleezio: wait, how exactly are you transferring the files? as a samba share?
[17:26] <sleezio> hitsujiTMO, yes
[17:27] <LeKnuth> Hi, I just installed a fresh Ubunut 13.10 and I have no /boot/grub/device.map file, and "sudo grub-mkdevicemap" doesn't create one. I had to re-write grub after the installation from a live CD (without chroot), might that be the problem?
[17:28] <hitsujiTMO> ok, that has mothing to do with the usb so, that could be an issue with cifs ... what shows up in mount ?
[17:28] <akShri> solved my problem :)
[17:29] <cromag> jubale: i have altered the sources.lst now, to only use security http://nopaste.dk/p63408 - still over 30secs
[17:29] <dum3_> somebody could tell me how can download as a ZIP or directly import to Netbeans the files that are in the URL https://svn.java.net/svn/jgpss~framework/ ??  Thanks
[17:30] <sleezio> hitsujiTMO, not quite sure what you mean by that, in nautilus, i 'browse network' and find it that way, it auto mounts it so i can see it in nautilus
[17:30] <hitsujiTMO> sleezio: can you paste the output of: mount      as you run it from terminal
[17:30] <LeKnuth> dum3_ download via browser? or via terminal
[17:31] <jubale> cromag: I think that was a mistake, but maybe not.
[17:31] <cromag> what ?
[17:31] <hitsujiTMO> LeKnuth: ubuntu 13.10 does not use a /boot/grub/device.map
[17:31] <dum3_> LeKnuth, download via browser
[17:32] <zeep> dum3_: wget -r <url>
[17:32] <cromag> jubale: otherwise i had to wait maybe 30 minutes..
[17:32] <Li> hey guys, anyone know how I can connect to another url?
[17:32] <jubale> What are the 'real', 'user', and 'sys' values?
[17:32] <LeKnuth> hitsujiTMO, is that a new grub2 thing?
[17:32] <jubale> Seems to me it should have timed out WAY before 30 mins.
[17:33] <cromag> that is 30 seconds...
[17:33] <cromag> i have commented out everyting other than security
[17:33] <jubale> Which distro version are you using?
[17:33] <cromag> ubuntu 13.10
[17:34] <hitsujiTMO> LeKnuth: its an optional thing. ubuntu builds a grub.cfg from /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d/
[17:34] <LeKnuth> hitsujiTMO, ok, thanks for that.
[17:36] <cromag> jubale: any clues ? ;)
[17:36] <jubale> You should probably post on Ubuntu forums, I've had issues with repos being ignored and/or not accessible which I've had to comment as well. Although, I'm using 13.04
[17:37] <cromag> ok
[17:40] <Darkgaco> hi, i`m having an issue installing ubuntu 13.10 it says divide error and no idea what to do to fix it. here is an image with the error http://postimg.org/image/dl00wc7dn/
[17:41] <kostkon> Darkgaco, download the iso again, make a new live usb/dvd
[17:41] <Darkgaco> ok
[17:41] <hitsujiTMO> Darkgaco: what graphics card do you have?
[17:41] <esing> hi
[17:42] <Darkgaco> it is a GTX 765m
[17:42] <Darkgaco> it has the technology optimus
[17:42] <esing> I have troubles when playing a video on ubuntu
[17:42] <esing> It's flickering in the middle of the video (a horizontal line)
[17:43] <esing> Do you think it's a decoder or graphic card driver issue?
[17:43] <kostkon> esing, tried with different players?
[17:43] <eer> Is it possible to  customize the Evolution address program(add custom fields and remove not needed ones)?
[17:44] <esing> kostkon, Yes, tried with kaffeein too, same issue
[17:44] <kostkon> esing, try with a non gst based, e.g. vlc
[17:44] <hitsujiTMO> darkgaco, do as kostkon has suggested, verify the hash of the iso with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes   if you run into the same issue let us know
[17:45] <Darkgaco> ok thanks, will do it
[17:45] <esing> kostkon, Tried with vlc and mplayer, both result in the same issue
[17:46] <kostkon> esing, ok, just checking
[17:47] <mr-digital> hey all, so far im Rocking Ubuntu 12.04LTS now that i squashed all the issues
[17:48] <dtcrshr> whats the latest kernel on ubuntu lts updates?
[17:48] <kostkon> dtcrshr, fresh 12.04.3 installs get 3.8, older 12.04.2 3.5, plain 12.04 just 3.2
[17:49] <dtcrshr> how do i setup to use a kernel 3.x where x > 10
[17:50] <RobinJ> ebverywhere i go i find pages telling me you shopuld disable Intel SRT before installing ubuntu, but nowhere can i find WHY that is. can anyone give me a pointer?
[17:50] <esing> kostkon, How should I proceed in resolving the issue? Maybe report the bug?
[17:50] <dtcrshr> theres some known bugs on io using ext3 / 4
[17:50] <dtcrshr> for some reason I have to use ubuntu for a appliance server here, im collection some info on ubuntu as a server first
[17:51] <tjbiddle> Alright - been searching for 30+ minutes now and haven't found a solution. If I install a package with apt-get and it fails, and then I go to install a different package - it keeps re-trying to install the failed package. How can I clear this out in a generic command (eg: Not apt-get purge package - would like something that clears *all* purged packages) Are there any solutions for this? Thanks :-)
[17:51] <kostkon> esing, do you get the same in full screen flash videos
[17:51] <tjbiddle> apt-get clean / autoclean / autoremove - none do the trick. Nor apt-get install -f / dpkg --configure -a
[17:53] <zol> I'm really angry. In 13.10 you can't change keyboard layout with alt+shift!
[17:55] <esing> kostkon, Hm, I just checked it on 1080p youtube videos. I see the flickering in very videos with fast moving objects
[17:56] <esing> -very
[17:56] <iceroot> esing: only on non-fullscreen?
[17:57] <Moorvogi> i've joined my ubuntu box to my active directory domain! Does nyone know how to make it so i can logon with just the username instead of "username@domain.local" ??
[18:02] <abailarri> in #burujabtech
[18:02] <esing> iceroot, In full and non-fullscreen
[18:03] <esing> iceroot, It's harder to spot on youtube videos though. It's shorter and not that often
[18:03] <mr-digital> i love ubuntu its so much better then Windows
[18:03] <irenicus09> hi guys I think my swap is not being used...how can I make my OS use it?
[18:03] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I permanently terminate the KDE accessible? I kill it, but it just runs again!!! (I have upgraded to ubuntu 13.10, I had this problem before and I solved it. (I do not remember how), now after upgrading it comes back again)
[18:03] <gordonjcp> irenicus09: 1) why do you think swap isn't being used, and 2) why do you care?
[18:04] <hitsujiTMO> irenicus09: why do you want it to use it?
[18:04] <zykotick9> irenicus09: if you type "free" in a terminal, do you see Swap listed - with size?
[18:04] <irenicus09> hitsujiTMO: I don't have the hibernate option it's grayed out
[18:04] <iceroot> esing: ah ok, then i am facing another issue (which can not reproduced with gnash, only with this evil adobe product)
[18:04] <irenicus09> hitsujiTMO: also when I suspend it crashes and doesnt load back to the original state
[18:05] <irenicus09> hitsujiTMO: but I don't only blame it on swap
[18:05] <hitsujiTMO> irenicus09: what version of ubuntu? how much ram, and how big is the swap space?
[18:05] <irenicus09> might be something else too not sre
[18:05] <irenicus09> hitsujiTMO: on second thought it seems like its being used :P
[18:06] <esing> iceroot, Do you also see flickering when playing a video?
[18:06] <irenicus09> swapon -s
[18:06] <irenicus09> Filename				Type		Size	Used	Priority
[18:06] <irenicus09> /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-swap_1           partition	4075516	116	-1
[18:06] <ihre> gg paste
[18:06] <irenicus09> sry about that
[18:07] <irenicus09> im on ubuntu 13.04 and have 4 G or ram so also have 4G of swap
[18:07] <hitsujiTMO> irenicus09: if you want to use hibernation on ubuntu 12.04 or later you must enable it separately, and your swap must be larger than your ram
[18:07] <irenicus09> hitsujiTMO: ow that's why :(
[18:08] <hitsujiTMO> irenicus09: https://help.ubuntu.com/13.04/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html
[18:08] <wachpwnski-mobi> I switched from PEG to Integrated due to driver issues
[18:08] <wachpwnski-mobi> now Xorg wont start
[18:08] <esing> I want to report a bug on ubuntu.launchpad.net, but I get this error message when trying to login Invalid OpenID transaction
[18:09] <hitsujiTMO> wachpwnski-mobi: you prob dont have drivers installed for your integrated graphics
[18:10] <irenicus09> hitsujiTMO: thx...but is there a way to fix my problem of suspend not working properly?
[18:10] <jumfernandez> hello i need help, yesterday i try install the drivers of my wifi usb adaptador with a member of this group and i couldn't fix it, Please, anyone can help me? i have a TP-LINK WN8200ND with a chipset 'RTL8192CU'.
[18:10] <hitsujiTMO> irenicus09: that is dependant on your hardware ... you will have to look up what exactly is causing the issue
[18:11] <iceroot> esing: only on non-fullscreen
[18:11] <jazzyy> s
[18:13] <esing> iceroot, Is it flickering in a narrow horizontal line for you too?
[18:13] <tjbiddle> Anyone know an answer for my question? Is there a way to clear out broken packages from apt-get so they'll stop re-trying to install?
[18:14] <om26er> tjbiddle, try dpkg -r <packagename>
[18:14] <esing> I can't do a screenshot of it, because if the video is still the flickering is gone
[18:14] <tjbiddle> om26er: Need a solution that doesn't specify the package name, if possible. Thanks though!
[18:15] <tjbiddle> om26er: Something like apt-get autoclean, except it's like an autoremoveallpartiallyconfiguredpackages :)
[18:15] <jumfernandez> hitsujiTMO, yesterday i restarted and nothing :S
[18:15] <rannger> quit
[18:15] <om26er> tjbiddle, apt-get -f install ?
[18:15] <hitsujiTMO> jumfernandez: did you add those 2 lines of code again?
[18:15] <tjbiddle> om26er: Just tries to re-install the package =\
[18:15] <om26er> I do think aptitude is more powerful than apt--get and may help there
[18:15] <hitsujiTMO> tjbiddle: whats the exact error?
[18:16] <m3kk> I also can't enable(or see/fetch) any restricted drivers without crash because of reasons
[18:16] <Darkgaco> Hi, I was here before because during installation i have an Divide error, I downloaded the iso again checked with md5 and created a new usb live and during installation the same error appears
[18:16] <tjbiddle> hitsujiTMO: The package failing. It's an internal package - I know why it's failing, and I have the fix. I can easily just purge it and install the new package, but I'm trying to find a way to automate this in the future.
[18:17] <tjbiddle> hitsujiTMO: I use puppet for configuration management, and have a setup with rabbitmq for push deployments - so it will run apt-get update && apt-get autoclean && puppet agent -t. But if there was a package that failed, then it keeps trying to install the failed package - rather than install the new one
[18:17] <jumfernandez> yes hitsujiTMO, i type the command, and the last not responding
[18:18] <hitsujiTMO> jumfernandez: i'm unsure what to do then, hopefully someone else can help
[18:19] <Darkgaco> here is the image of the error i´m having http://postimg.org/image/h7q3kxi2p/1c45235a/
[18:19] <Darkgaco> http://postimg.org/image/h7q3kxi2p/
[18:20] <hitsujiTMO> Darkgaco: same error?
[18:20] <Darkgaco> yes
[18:21] <jumfernandez> thanks hitsujiTMO, really
[18:21] <hitsujiTMO> when you boot can you add the kernel parameter: nouveau.modeset=1
[18:21] <hitsujiTMO> Darkgaco: ^
[18:21] <Darkgaco> i dont have that error when tried to install 12.04
[18:21] <iceroot> esing: no, the complete video
[18:21] <Darkgaco> hitsujiTMO that was for me?
[18:21] <hitsujiTMO> yes: please add nouveau.modeset=1
[18:22] <Darkgaco> ok will try it
[18:22] <Darkgaco> thanks
[18:22] <Darkgaco> anything else I should try before doing it? any other parameters
[18:23] <hitsujiTMO> if that doesn't work, try nomodeset ... but try nouveau.modeset=1   first
[18:23] <Darkgaco> ok, for using that I need to remove the quiet splash right?
[18:24] <hitsujiTMO> Darkgaco: no you can append it to the end
[18:24] <iceroot> esing: btw with chromium i was not facing that issue, they have there own flashplayer
[18:24] <Darkgaco> ok
[18:26] <smjd> I have "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wine/ppa/ubuntu raring main" in my /etc/apt/sources.list, the PPA has Wine 1.7.4, I have updated the lists, and apt-get and aptitude are still trying to download 1.7.3 from that repo
[18:32] <SchroedingersKat> Is there a key inside gsettings to un/attach the unity launcher from a monitor?  I run 12.10 with dual monitors with the unity launcher visible on both.  Is there a way to programatically toggle the unity-launcher on a monitor of choice?  I have found the gsettings schema:path 'org.compiz.unityshell:/org/compiz/profiles/unity/plugins/unityshell/'  which has lots of useful keys but I could not see one for me
[18:34] <Darkgaco> Hi, im back. It didn't work. Both parameters failed
[18:34] <Darkgaco> With same error
[18:35] <OerHeks> SchroedingersKat, no, no key to de-attach or move the laucher
[18:35] <OerHeks> or option
[18:36] <hitsujiTMO> Darkgaco: if both those don't work then i'm unsure. it's the nouveau module thats crashing
[18:37] <SchroedingersKat> OerHeks:  It can be done via the Seettings->Displays GUI with the Launcher Placement dropdown
[18:38] <zol> Is everyone using Leksah? I'm quite comfortable with emacs, anyone else using emacs to write in Haskell here?
[18:38] <Renzatic> Hey, I seem to be having some strange issues iwth a few of my PPA entries
[18:38] <Renzatic> as in they don't seem to..."take".
[18:39] <hitsujiTMO> Renzatic: what ppas?
[18:39] <Renzatic> I've tried installing Netflix Desktop and Uberwriter, and not only can I not download what I wanted to download, but when I try removing the PPA, it gives me an error...that'll I'll copy/paste right now
[18:39] <hitsujiTMO> Renzatic: and what version of ubuntu
[18:39] <OerHeks> SchroedingersKat, oh great, new function i have not noticed
[18:40] <Renzatic> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:w-vollprecht/ppa
[18:40] <Renzatic> 12.04
[18:40] <Renzatic> actually using ElementaryOS, but this should be common between it and Precise
[18:40] <Renzatic> Error: 'deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/w-vollprecht/ppa/ubuntu precise main' doesn't exist in a sourcelist file
[18:40] <Renzatic> Error: 'deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/w-vollprecht/ppa/ubuntu precise main' doesn't exist in a sourcelist file
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> Renzatic, NOt suppored the OS or ppa's
[18:40] <Freenote> VirtualBox wont run Ubuntu 12.10 for some reason
[18:41] <Renzatic> so it's an issue with my version?
[18:41] <Freenote> it installs but crashes at the end when it triedto reboot
[18:41] <UrielVigilant> ubuntu 13.10 cant detete my scan epson . It is a multifuntions scan printer epon sx 130. Should i use the original software with wine or i have alternatives ?  I also tryed scanlite but it dont know any scan .
[18:41] <bean> Renzatic: I don't think we support elementary here, i could be wrong though.
[18:41] <Renzatic> I'm going on the assumption this is a 12.04 issue
[18:41] <Renzatic> the skin shouldn't matter (I think...not sure)
[18:41] <bean> elementary is more than a skin
[18:41] <wilee-nilee> Renzatic, This is ubuntu support your assumptions are faulty
[18:42] <Darkgaco> Is there anything i can do to help find the issue? It creates a log on the live usb stick?
[18:42] <Renzatic> I'll go hop over there then
[18:42] <ihre> is it possible to follow the progress of a dd command?
[18:42] <Renzatic> but...since I'm here...what's usually a common cause for this?
[18:43] <l9> how can a cloud storage promis infity storage space??
[18:43] <bean> !derivatives
[18:43] <Pici> !ot | l9
[18:44] <l9> sorry :/ forgot
[18:45] <BeryWork> Hi there! I'm on ubuntu 13.04 (might upgrade to 13.10 soon) and I'm looking to remap my wheel-left/wheel-right events to tab-left/tab-right in Firefox and Chrome. Logitech mouse. Xev says they are "button 6" and "button 7" respectively.
[18:45] <BeryWork> Any idea what I need to do to achieve that?
[18:46] <BeryWork> actually, any application that supports tabbing is one that I'd like to add this to ...
[18:47] <hitsujiTMO> BeryWork: best to look for addons for those browsers
[18:47] <BeryWork> so there's no way to convert the event to a keyboard shortcut? That seems extremely bizarre, considering that both Windows and OS X have ways to do that.
[18:47] <Kurvivor> hello! i have tried installing ubuntu recently but all i got for my troubles was "error: attempt to read or write outside of disk `hd0' "
[18:48] <Kurvivor> what should i do with that?
[18:48] <Kurvivor> i have tried boot-repair to no discernible effect
[18:49] <hitsujiTMO> Kurvivor: how big is the drive?
[18:49] <Kurvivor> 1.5 Tb
[18:50] <voxel33> ola ola
[18:50] <m3kk> Thats what she said
[18:50] <voxel33> round 1
[18:50] <voxel33> redy
[18:50] <voxel33> go
[18:50] <FloodBot1> voxel33: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:51] <m3kk> what torrent-program do people prefer here?
[18:51] <bean> !poll | m3kk
[18:52] <Kurvivor> also, install from CD failed altogether; after banging my methaphorical head on "cd cannot be mounted" errror one time too many, i made a live-usb. I pretends to work and that is better then nothing, i guess
[18:52] <m3kk> bean, let me refrase that: is there anyone that can recomend ANY torrent-program ? i use transmission but i suffer issues
[18:52] <bean> whaty sort of issues?
[18:53] <m3kk> bean, magnet-links mainly
[18:53] <m3kk> bean, perhaps browser related?
[18:53] <bean> m3kk: what browser do you use?
[18:53] <m3kk> bean, firefox and chromium
[18:53] <bean> m3kk: for firefox i think you need the top bit here: https://trac.transmissionbt.com/wiki/MagnetLinks
[18:53] <bean> :)
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> !enter | bean
[18:54] <m3kk> lol
[18:54] <bean> MonkeyDust… I did one :) after something
[18:54] <mbeierl> Freenote: you mean virtualbox crashes?  What OS are you running virtualbox on?
[18:54] <bean> That's hardly abusing the enter key like some people do.
[18:55] <m3kk> bean, thanks. to much text for me at this time, i will just continue do what i do lol
[18:57] <kostkon> m3kk, i would recommend latest qbitorrent
[18:57] <m3kk> kostkon, thanks a bunch
[18:57] <m3kk> kostkon, functions well with magnetlinks? what browser you use?
[18:58] <BluesKaj> FF doesn't work with magnetic links, but chromium does here
[18:59] <m3kk> BluesKaj, really? with qbitorrent?
[18:59] <kostkon> m3kk, im guessing yes, give it a try nonetheless. check an article about it: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/cross-platform-bittorrent-client.html
[18:59] <kostkon> m3kk, it's much more advanced than transmission thats for sure
[19:00] <m3kk> kostkon, i really love transmission from my mac-days .. simple and light. but i will try qbitorrent thanks.
[19:00] <BluesKaj> yes m3kk , well chromium did last time I used qbittorrent
[19:00] <YANS> r.i.p isohunt.com [']
[19:01] <Kurvivor> ok, i tried reinstalling, and launched partitioning wizard, then install. No visible indication of progress is being made, and it disturbs me greatly
[19:02] <matt444> Hi, I'm unable to use internet from my user account. However using sudo I can use curl, apt-get, everything seems to work
[19:02] <matt444> Just not from my user account.
[19:03] <hitsujiTMO> Kurvivor: there may be an issue with the hard drive ... you chould check the smart info with smartmontools
[19:03] <m3kk> BluesKaj, cant get it to work on chromium.. it throws me a error
[19:03] <bean> matt444: that seems quite odd.
[19:03] <bean> matt444: what error does it give you?
[19:03] <Kurvivor> hitsujiTMO: googling smartmontools now
[19:04] <matt444> bean: matthew@localhost:/tmp/ruby$ curl http://google.com curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'google.com'
[19:04] <matt444> bean: matthew@localhost:/tmp/ruby$ ping google.com ping: unknown host google.com
[19:04] <hitsujiTMO> matt444 can you ping 8.8.8.8  ???
[19:05] <zteam> Hi guys
[19:05] <matt444> hitsujiTMO   matthew@localhost:/tmp/ruby$ ping 8.8.8.8 socket: Permission denied
[19:05] <BluesKaj> m3kk. try a different torrent client , like transmission perhaps
[19:06] <zteam> I'm attempting to upgrade to Ubuntu 13.10 but my updata-manager just dies after asking for my password
[19:06] <bean> matt444: and this is an ubuntu system? what version?
[19:06] <m3kk> BluesKaj, i can't chose client to open it popups a message that runs like: " following application will start if you accept:  xdg-open"
[19:06] <matt444> bean: good question, let me see
[19:06] <hitsujiTMO> matt444: cat /etc/issue
[19:06] <m3kk> BluesKaj, i press "start program" it just fails with error.. i can't choose whitch program to use
[19:07] <zteam> I was first trying with sudo update-manager -c
[19:07] <zteam> from the terminal
[19:07] <matt444> Debian GNU/Linux 7 \n \l
[19:07] <kostkon> zteam, without sudo
[19:07] <matt444> This is debian, sorry
[19:07] <matt444> All my other servers are Ubuntu ;)
[19:07] <matt444> Go figure why this one's not working
[19:07] <bean> matt444: oh, you'll probably want to ask in the debian channel then :)
[19:07] <matt444> yeah, will do
[19:08] <zteam> kostkon, Well I'm trying to run it just from Unity now, but it just dies off
[19:09] <kostkon> zteam, then in termnal:  update-manager  and pastebin any error messages, someone might be able to help
[19:10] <zteam> kostkon, update-manager -c Looking for Ubuntu-release Real-time signal 0
[19:11] <kostkon> zteam, leave the -c param aside
[19:11] <kostkon> don;t use it
[19:11] <zteam> kostkon, that's all it tells me
[19:11] <kostkon> zteam, just plain update-manager
[19:12] <mr-digital> how do we boost volume in Ubuntu?
[19:12] <zteam> kostkon, same respone again
[19:12] <Marlenee> is it Midnight Commander programme under category Ncruse programmes ?
[19:13] <UrielVigilant> I downloaded an aparently solution to put my scan epson working on ubuntu 13.10. Iam newby and  i dont know what to do with an vuex3293.tgz file . how to install this ?
[19:14] <kostkon> zteam, you can start the dist upgrade in the terminal if you want
[19:14] <Slart> mr-digital: volume as in output from sound card? I think there is a volume control somewhere
[19:14] <kmyst> UrielVigilant: you've got a gzipped tarball...use tar xvfz cuex3293.tar.gz to uncompress it
[19:14] <kostkon> zteam, with do-release-upgrade
[19:14] <mr-digital> i love the popups from the notification center Fkn Sweet!
[19:14] <Slart> mr-digital: you can also install the pavucontrol package, it should give you some extra options
[19:15] <kostkon> zteam, i don't think it;s recommended to do that on the desktop though
[19:15] <mr-digital> whats a good mail client besides thunderbird? ima Gmail user but looking for an app
[19:15] <UrielVigilant> kmyst thank you
[19:15] <kostkon> zteam, try: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update  then run the update manager again
[19:16] <UrielVigilant> kmyst: so its just type - sudo tar xvfz cuex3293.tar.gz  ?
[19:16] <airos> hello everyone, I need a little help. I have updated to 13.10 and now my laptop do not start anymore (freeze at purple screen) I still have this problem before, it came from fglrx driver. So the last time, I have removed fglrx and then install it form ati website, and that's works
[19:16] <tado> hey folks. i've spent hours now trying to set up a proxy or a vpn in order to access the internet through my home computer when i am travelling, but can't really understand it... anyone feels like taking me through it step-by-step?
[19:16] <kmyst> UrielVigilant: i typo'd...tar xvfz vuex3293.tar.gz
[19:16] <airos> perfectly; but now, I cannot remove fglrx driver because safe mode at startup doesn't work
[19:17] <kmyst> UrielVigilant: er .tgz
[19:17] <kmyst> UrielVigilant: shouldn't need sudo unless root owns the file
[19:17] <synsolnca> Hi everyone. Did someone try to install iRedMail in Ubuntu 13.10?
[19:18] <synsolnca> I've tried and got this message "Package 'apache2.2-common' has no installation candidate
[19:18] <BluesKaj> tado. why a proxy or vpn ?
[19:18] <zteam> kostkon, I did clean the cache and did sudo apt-get update, and also removed my .config update-manager folder, still no luck
[19:19] <wilee-nilee> synsolnca, Not in the repos right?
[19:19] <tado> BluesKaj: i am going travelling, and i'd like to be able to access the internet through my local ip every now and then. i was suggested to look into those options
[19:19] <wilee-nilee> !find iRedMail
[19:19] <UrielVigilant> kmyst: i did on console, filipepereira@Uriel:~$ tar xvfz vuex3293.tar.tgz    and i get this   http://paste.ubuntu.com/6284740/
[19:19] <kostkon> zteam, right. check this out https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1241684
[19:20] <kmyst> UrielVigilant: use .tgz not .tar.gz i misread the filename
[19:20] <quantals> Does anyone play Path of Exile aka POE ?
[19:21] <tado> BluesKaj: basically I'd need something like foxyproxy, just set up with my own computer instead of paying a subscription for it
[19:21] <BluesKaj> openvpn is a good option , that's what I use and it's relatively cheap and secure , tado , there are many commercial vpns available , I use PIA
[19:22] <zteam> kostkon, Damn it!
[19:22] <wilee-nilee> synsolnca, https://launchpad.net/iredmail/+packages
[19:22] <zteam> Kostkon, I always manage to hit those Ubuntu bugs like a hammer :p
[19:22] <BluesKaj> i don't trust proxies , they throttle bandwidth , tado
[19:23] <UrielVigilant> kmyst: i did ,  tar xvfz vuex3293.tgz  same problem again  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6284769/
[19:23] <tado> BluesKaj: but is there a way to set up openvpn so that it is my own computer i get through? so not to subscribe to commercial ones?
[19:23] <kmyst> tado: iirc i used a howto as a starting point on smallnetbuilder to set up openvpn
[19:23] <qubit01> hey all, I booted up my laptop this morning as usual thats connected to a 24 inch ViewSonic, now the most resolution I can get out of the second monitor is 1024x768.  I'm trying xrandr to manually set it but nothing is taking, ideas ?  I'm running 13.04 and nothing has changed recently :S
[19:23] <kostkon> zteam, try again in a few days. if you are still not able to use the update manager,  then you could try applying the updates with apt-get upgrade for the time being
[19:24] <kmyst> UrielVigilant: you're in the same directory as the file?
[19:24] <tado> kmyst: sorry didn't get that?
[19:25] <kmyst> tado: vpn tunnel using openvpn to access my network from outside...i think i used a howoto on smallnetbuilder as a starting point and built it up from there to do what you're looking to do
[19:26] <BluesKaj> tado. yes openvpn server at home,  open vpn client on your mobile
[19:26] <zteam> kostkon, I used update-manager to day latest, so it seems it just don't wanna get upgraded to a new distro
[19:26] <kostkon> zteam, be patient then :P a fix will arrive soon. also see the comment #3 if you have an nvidia card https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1241684/comments/3
[19:27] <tado> BluesKaj: i've tried to follow this, but i get an error when getting to source vars
[19:27] <tado> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/openvpn.html
[19:28] <zteam> kostkon, yes, I have a Nvidia card, and to be honest, I really starting to regret it
[19:28] <zteam> kostkon, :p
[19:28] <kostkon> zteam, nah don't say that.
[19:29] <kmyst> zteam: could be like me a get a laptop with ati and 6 months later ati dropped support for the chipset :P
[19:29] <paulpaul1076> ew ati
[19:29] <subterfuge> Can a samba file server (Ubuntu 12.04LTS) be set up so that is someone is accessing a file on the shared drive NO ONE else can access it.  i don't mean open it as read only I mean nothing happens at all on the client side (windows 7)
[19:29] <UrielVigilant> kmyst: to change dir is ,    sudo /dir                       ?
[19:29] <BluesKaj> tado. perhaps kmyst can help you with that , i have no experience with home openvpn server , only the client
[19:29] <Kurvivor> has ubuntu distribution got a partitioning program in it? How is it called?
[19:30] <kmyst> UrielVigilant: cd path
[19:30] <kostkon> Kurvivor, gparted
[19:30] <gordonjcp> !partition > kostkon
[19:30] <Slart> Kurvivor: there's many.. gparted is one
[19:30] <kostkon> gordonjcp, wrong nick :P
[19:30] <zteam> kmyst, wow, that's certainly quite bad...
[19:30] <gordonjcp> kostkon: disregard, 13.10 sucks elephants through very fine mesh
[19:30] <tado> kmyst: i have tried to follow this https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/openvpn.html but get lost in the middle...
[19:30] <gordonjcp> !partition | Kurvivor
[19:30] <kostkon> gordonjcp, :/
[19:30] <hitsujiTMO> subterfuge: i think you're looking for oplocks iirc
[19:30] <zteam> kmyst, fortunaetly, ATI at least provide a working open source driver
[19:31] <gordonjcp> kostkon: although if you've any advice on how to make 13.10 have a sane keyboard layout I'm all ears ;-)
[19:31] <RoboZinho2> help
[19:31] <UrielVigilant> kmyst: i dont know how to change to tranfers
[19:31] <Kurvivor> thanks
[19:31] <kostkon> gordonjcp, lol. i know, theyve changed it a bit :P
[19:31] <gordonjcp> I'm guessing 13.10 will be usable once it's out of alpha-test and ready for release
[19:31] <Slart> RoboZinho2: just ask your question.. it's a big free-for-all in here
[19:32] <zteam> kmyst, doesn't that works for you?
[19:32] <UrielVigilant> kmyst: i dont know the path to downloads
[19:32] <kmyst> zteam: doesn't what work?
[19:32] <zteam> kmyst, ATIs open source driver :-)
[19:32] <Dougie187> I'm having a weird issue, where the panel at the top of unity "freezes" every once in a while. I can tell because the clock stops, and I can't click on any of my app indicators. I don't find anything about this is any of my log files, so I was curious if someone could give me ideas of places to look for help/fixes.
[19:33] <Dougie187> Also, it randomly "un-freezes"
[19:33] <kmyst> zteam: works, yes, in the sense i get subpar performance
[19:33] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I permanently terminate the KDE accessible? I kill it, but it just runs again!!! (I have upgraded to ubuntu 13.10, I had this problem before and I solved it. (I do not remember how), now after upgrading it comes back again)
[19:34] <zteam> kmyst, Okey :-/
[19:34] <kmyst> UrielVigilant: well *if* you saved it to Downloads just cd ~/Downloads
[19:34] <zteam> kmyst, can't be worse than Nouveau I guess :-)
[19:34] <kostkon> mojtaba, checked in kde's accessibility options/settings? are there any
[19:34] <kmyst> zteam: i deal with noveau at work....equally painful
[19:35] <zteam> kmyst, I really hope Nvidia is backing up Mir thought
[19:35] <mojtaba> kostkon: I just kill the process and it restart again. It is very annoying
[19:35] <kostkon> mojtaba, that's lame :/ i mean that it restarts itself :P
[19:35] <kmyst> tado: lost where?
[19:35] <blistov_> hey all.  I'm trying to get link agg working from a linux host to a nas (or even linux to linux) but the 802.3ad doesn't seem to actually "balance" the load across both channels.  Looks like ARP and LACP accounts for all data on one channel, while the other channel handles all the data.
[19:36] <mojtaba> kostkon: It was a bug in 13.04 and at that time I solved it, but I do not remember how. Now again in 13.10 it comes back!!!!
[19:36] <zteam> kmyst, Yes it works quite okey, but the performance is really miles of the propriarety one :-)
[19:36] <blistov_> Shouldn't I get 2x GB speed through the bond0 iface?
[19:36] <wachpwnski-mobi> how do you pick which version of compat-drivers to use?
[19:36] <kostkon> mojtaba, did you search in your browser history or even your google search history on history.google.com/history?
[19:36] <subterfuge> hitsujiTMO:  I am reading about oplocks as fast as i can here, relying only of poor googlefu, it is my understanding that if two clients try to access the same file both get denied access -- This is not my goal, my goal would be only the second user gets denied access of ANY type  --  What are your thoughts?
[19:37] <tado> kmyst: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6284857/
[19:37] <kmyst> zteam: i'll put it this way for the ati card: i could at least play starcraft with proprietary drivers and now it just black screens....so factor that into graphics performance for today's stuff :)
[19:37] <UrielVigilant> kmyst: I already did it , and now what do i do ? i get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6284862/
[19:37] <mojtaba> kostkon: I could not find it. :(
[19:38] <kostkon> mojtaba, :/
[19:38] <kmyst> tado: you're root?
[19:38] <kmyst> tado: er your not root
[19:38] <hitsujiTMO> subterfuge: look up oplocks and deny mode .... A client may ask for DENY_NONE, DENY_READ, DENY_WRITE, or DENY_ALL.
[19:39] <UrielVigilant> kmyst: should i reboot to see the app running ?
[19:39] <kmyst> UrielVigilant: well that doesn't look like anything "installable" so i'd suggest reading the documentation from where you downloaded the file...perhaps VueScan/vuescan is executable
[19:39] <kostkon> mojtaba, already found this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/181815/how-to-disable-qt-accessibility-in-12-04
[19:40] <zteam> kmyst, okey, in that case it's far more worse, than Nouveau at least for my sitaution, I can launch Nexuiz and it renders the graphic as it should, but quite slowly :-)
[19:40] <subterfuge> hitsujiTMO: thank-you for the proper search terms -- I will go do my homework
[19:40] <nightdrever> hi i installed ccsm and i think i may have changed an unity setting......when i reestarted dash menu at left didnt appear neither did taskbar at top of screen, also command for terminal didnt work so i couldnt do anythin.........im now on a previous version of ubuntu12.04 but the screen resolution isnt right etc how can i fix this?
[19:40] <tado> kmyst: i enter it with sudo. ..?
[19:40] <zteam> (I get around 13 FPS, with card)
[19:40] <UrielVigilant> Kmyst: you are right thank you very much
[19:40] <nightdrever> i deleted compiz if that has anything todo with it
[19:41] <mojtaba> kostkon: Thanks I will check that
[19:41] <kostkon> mojtaba, :)
[19:41] <kmyst> tado: right
[19:42] <tado> kmyst: if i give sudo with source vars it doesn't recognize the command
[19:43] <mojtaba> kostkon: I remember now, the last time I just used chmod a-x for the that program.
[19:43] <mojtaba> kostkon: thank you very much for your help.
[19:43] <kmyst> tado: use it after that for the ./clean-all since you need to be root to run that and the subsequent commands
[19:43] <kostkon> mojtaba, np ;)
[19:44] <mojtaba> kostkon: Have a nice day!
[19:44] <kostkon> mojtaba, you too
[19:44] <Kyan-> hi
[19:45] <tado> kmyst: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6284906/
[19:46] <arnab> I just installed pan newsreader
[19:46] <kmyst> tado: ah just sudo su - and cd back to /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa and go from there
[19:46] <arnab> its not showing any articles
[19:47] <arnab> anyone using usenet for filesharing?
[19:47]  * genii hears "sudo su -" and shudders
[19:47] <kmyst> genii: i know...i know :)
[19:47] <arnab> ?
[19:48] <BluesKaj> genii. wow twice in 2 days ...must be some debian ppl around :)
[19:48] <arnab> anyone using pan newsreader?
[19:49] <arnab> on ubuntu?
[19:49] <tado> kmyst: ok it created it... let's see how it goes from here...
[19:49] <Kyan-> someone from america?
[19:49] <eer> Anybody knows the program Torchat?
[19:49] <eric2> allo<
[19:49] <tonytt> california ya
[19:49] <eer> I can not get it to run.
[19:49] <arnab> torchat
[19:49] <arnab> i think i heard of it
[19:49] <Kyan-> tonytt, query
[19:49] <arnab> I am struggling with pan newsreader
[19:50] <kmyst> what? i'm oldschool and if i'm doing a *lot* of root stuff i just su to it :)
[19:50] <kmyst> avoids dumb headaches like above
[19:51] <arnab> kmyst: dude help me
[19:51] <eer> It keeps saying tor.sh not found.
[19:51] <kmyst> arnab: dunno pan newsreader, sorry
[19:51] <p1l0t> Is there a way to get mod_wsgi in python 2.7.3 rather that 3.3? It is causing me import issues with my .eggs I suppose I could compile from source but I didn't know if there was an easier way.
[19:51] <arnab> kmyst: ok
[19:52] <arnab> kmyst: you know usenet?
[19:52] <arnab> do you use it?
[19:52] <pablo_> hello all
[19:52] <arnab> hello pablo
[19:52] <kmyst> know it, yes...use it, no
[19:52] <Pici> !details | arnab
[19:53] <wachpwnski-mobi> how can I just download a deb package from a repo?
[19:53] <arnab> I just downloaded pan newsreader to use usenet
[19:53] <arnab> but its now showing any articles
[19:53] <arnab> I want to use usenet
[19:53] <pablo_> I came here as ultimate choose of a problem, I've a N2600 netbook with installed ubuntu 13.04 and my problem is about gma3600 graphic card
[19:54] <Pici> arnab: Did you provide your usenet servers to its configuration?
[19:54] <arnab> and pan newsreader is what i got from repository
[19:54] <kmyst> Pici: beat me to it
[19:54] <ifiskom> aaa
[19:54] <hitsujiTMO> wachpwnski-mobi: apt-get -d
[19:54] <arnab> pici: by  that you mean my account from my usenet site?
[19:54] <arnab> if so yes
[19:54] <isasha> Hai
[19:55] <ifiskom> hai, what are you talking about guys?
[19:55] <isasha> I remapped my keys, and now they won't work :/
[19:55] <pablo_> I'm using the gma500 GPL driver and I tried in all mode the gma3600 driver but I did not found it
[19:55] <Pici> arnab: is it making a connection?
[19:55] <arnab> i dont know
[19:55] <arnab> how to know if it is connected?
[19:55] <ifiskom> i dont know too
[19:56] <Pici> ifiskom: This is the Official Ubuntu support channel, we're doing Ubuntu support. If you just want general chat, there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:56] <kmyst> arnab: it'd show in the lower left hand corner No Connections if not connected....
[19:56] <ifiskom> sorry ..
[19:57] <pablo_> hello, nobody have the same my problem?
[19:57] <Pici> kmyst: thanks, its been a while since I've touched pan.
[19:57] <arnab> thnx
[19:57] <kmyst> Pici: np, i installed it just to glance at it but since i have no news server info with my isp i can't test :)
[19:57] <DWSR> what's the package that allows me to refer to servers via their hostname as opposed to IP address?
[19:57] <arnab> yes it is shwoing no connection
[19:57] <arnab> what shoud i do next?
[19:58] <F41l> Question, I'm trying to send out mail using the commandline, I have mailutils installed, but upon testing the "mail" command, I do not receive the email sent. Is there something I can do to fix it?
[19:59] <arnab> kmyst: it is not connected. What should i do next?
[19:59] <GZA-Genius> I hate to be one of those guys that comes in has a problem but has no actionable data, just wonder if anyone has come across this, for some reason when i come back from my PC being locked because of idle it prompts me for PW (lightdm) i enter, it logs in, then takes me to gnome locked screen saver and i have to enter it again. Going to investigate it now but just wanted to ask see if it was a know bug.
[20:00] <MonkeyDust> GZA-Genius  ctrl alt F1, then df -h ... make sure no partition is 100% full, or near 100%
[20:01] <arnab> pan newsreader is showing no connection. what should I do?
[20:01] <arnab> How should i get it connected?
[20:01] <wilee-nilee> arnab, Where did you get this from?
[20:02] <hitsujiTMO> pablo_: gma3600 is neither supported by a proprietary driver, nor is documented so its extremely difficult to make a community driver for.  you should read through http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1953734 for possible solutions
[20:02] <F41l> would anyone be able to assist me in getting mailutils working? I'm not sure where to start with it I tried looking online but I guess I'm not searching for the correct terms. There also seems to be a crapton of commandline mail utilities.
[20:03] <arnab> wilee-nilee: from ubuntu repository
[20:03] <GZA-Genius> MonkeyDust: hrm thats interesting It dont take me to shell when i alt ctrl f1 just black screen, no partitions are full, seems I have a bigger problem than expected, ill have to check a few things out
[20:03] <wilee-nilee> arnab, What release are you running? It must have some sort of preferences.
[20:04]  * pablo_ hitsujiTMO thanks, I found the x86 driver but no the amd64 driver, I use a 13.04 amd64 u.v.
[20:04] <arnab> yes it have preferences.What should i do?
[20:05] <wachpwnski-mobi> hitsujiTMO: can I download for raring while I am on precise?
[20:05] <hitsujiTMO> pablo_: they don't even support x64 under windows
[20:05] <arnab> release is 3.4.1.1
[20:05] <wilee-nilee> arnab, I have never used it, nor seen it on here so I'm  not sure, but there must some info on the web a manual...etc
[20:06] <arnab> wilee-nilee:there is no documentation
[20:06] <arnab> and no online guides
[20:06] <wilee-nilee> arnab, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pan
[20:06]  * pablo_ hitsujiTMO  I'm using ubuntu 13.04 amd64 not windows, do u say gma3600 haven't x64 win support?
[20:07] <arnab> wilee-nilee: I read it. You use usesnet?
[20:07] <arnab> usenet*
[20:07] <hitsujiTMO> wachpwnski-mobi: you can with the web interface http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/
[20:07] <wilee-nilee> arnab, No, here is the website they have contact info you may have to talk with them is all. http://pan.rebelbase.com/download/
[20:07] <Dougie187> I'm having a weird issue, where the panel at the top of unity "freezes" every once in a while. I can tell because the clock stops, and I can't click on any of my app indicators. After a while, it randomly "un-freezes" and I can use everything again, but it's not clear to me how or why this happens and how to fix it. I don't find anything about this is any of my log files, so I was curious if someone could give me ideas of places to 
[20:08] <kmyst> arnab: ok i installed pan, found out i do have usenet, plugged in the proper address for the server, at it just did it's thing and works
[20:08] <nsh001> Hello all,I need some help,when i was installed Ubuntu server 13.10,I installed phpmyadmin but that need mcrypt,how to?thanks
[20:08] <hitsujiTMO> pablo_: i understand yes, i'm just saying they don't support x64 under any OS
[20:08] <arnab> wilee-nilee:ok
[20:08] <nsh001> sorry for my englis and thanks a lot
[20:09] <arnab> kmyst: what is server. You mean the site ?
[20:09] <kmyst> arnab: yes
[20:09] <pablo_> hitsujiTMO,  | ah excuse me I didn't understand u , but It's impossible it haven't a win x64 support, it is much common as video card
[20:09] <tado> kmyst: i have created it all, though i am in doubt on how to connect to it from my device.. do you have experience with that?
[20:10] <kmyst> tado: openvpn client
[20:11] <wilee-nilee> nsh001, try #ubuntu-server you might try a ubuntu channel in your native language if needed.
[20:11] <hitsujiTMO> nsh001: mcrypt isn't needed for phpmyadmin. if you wish to install it: http://www.khawaib.co.uk/blog/how-to-install-mcrypt-for-php-in-ubuntu/
[20:11] <wachpwnski-mobi> hitsujiTMO: if I do download will it get all the dependencies too?
[20:11] <hitsujiTMO> wachpwnski-mobi: no, you will need to pull each dependency seperately
[20:11] <nsh001> wilee-nilee and hitsujiTMO thanks
[20:12] <wilee-nilee> nsh001, no problem, good luck. ;)
[20:13] <kmyst> tado: you did the client configs?
[20:14] <tado> kmyst: yes. and just installed openvpn client on my device
[20:14] <tado> kmyst: now i assume i have to pass to it the ca and two client files, right?
[20:14] <kmyst> tado: well once you start openvpn on the client it should create tun0 and you should be able to ping the openvpn server
[20:14] <kmyst> tado: right
[20:14] <pablo_> hitsujiTMO, | is it possible use x86 driver in a amd64 ubuntu sistem?
[20:15] <hitsujiTMO> pablo_: no
[20:15] <daedeloth> help! ubuntu 13.10 destroys everything
[20:15] <tjbiddle> hitsujiTMO: I think it was you I was messaging before about removing partially configured packages. Ended up doing this: `dpkg -l | grep '^iF' | awk '{ print $2}' | xargs sudo apt-get -y remove`
[20:15] <pablo_> sh....
[20:15] <kmyst> tado: glancing at the simple client configuration section of that guide it lists the steps
[20:16] <hitsujiTMO> !details | daedeloth
[20:16] <wilee-nilee> !details | daedeloth
[20:16] <kmyst> tado: my setup is a bit esoteric so i'm running off my memory :)
[20:16] <andreb> hi all
[20:16] <daedeloth> yea, sorry, was still wondering what I was going to type
[20:16] <daedeloth> alright, fglrx seems to be the cause
[20:16] <tado> kmyst: :) dumb question - how to give all permissions to those ca and so on files? i cannot transfer them now
[20:16] <adamWork> Ubuntu got blu-ray support yet?
[20:16] <andreb> i got a server with 12.04 LTS ... and when ever i reboot my time goes off by a few minutes... i have it set to sync with a NTP server... but it boots up with the wrong time..
[20:17] <daedeloth> steam can't find the 32 bit libraries anymore, even when I add them to /etc/ld.so.conf
[20:17] <andreb> any ideas y ?
[20:17] <daedeloth> and google chrome has missing tab titles
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> !bluray | adamWork
[20:17] <daedeloth> I think everything is related to fglrx and I'm wondering if I should install the version from xorg-edgers
[20:17] <adamWork> MonkeyDust, just found it, thanks monkeyjuice
[20:17] <adamWork> errr MonkeyDust
[20:17] <kmyst> tado: i didn't change permissions
[20:17] <adamWork> oh wow, that's easier than I thought
[20:18] <tado> kmyst: i can't send them if not in root though...
[20:18] <pablo_> hitsujiTMO,  how may I start unity if I'm using lxde nothing reboot the system ?
[20:18] <hitsujiTMO> pablo_: gma3600 cannot handle unity at all
[20:19] <kmyst> tado: why not?
[20:19] <hitsujiTMO> pablo_: maybe try gnome or kde
[20:19] <pablo_> hitsujiTMO, it's not true, I used unity 2d and it go
[20:19] <tado> kmyst: the client1.key file is locked
[20:20] <gordonjcp> I'm trying to track down an odd problem with 13.10 on an Intel ICH10 chipset, where intermittently some characters are corrupted
[20:20] <tado> kmyst: padlock and X icon in nautilus
[20:20] <hitsujiTMO> pablo_: sorry, i keep forgetting unity 2d exists in older distros
[20:20] <gordonjcp> once the corruption starts, it gets worse and worse until I have to reboot
[20:20] <kmyst> tado: because they belong to root
[20:20] <gordonjcp> what should I check first?
[20:20] <DannyboyMT_> has anyone experienced external monitor not detected after bumblebee install?
[20:20] <pablo_> hitsujiTMO, unity 2d exist in 12.04 LTS , it's not a oldest version sorry
[20:20] <hitsujiTMO> gordonjcp: check your ram
[20:20] <kmyst> tado: so just scp them or cp, however with sudo
[20:21] <SJShoe> Has anyone seen any issues with apt-get regex matching?
[20:21] <tado> kmyst: it copies ca.crt and client1.crt, but says permission denied for client1.key
[20:22] <kmyst> tado: ? what's the permissions on that file?
[20:22] <hitsujiTMO> SJShoe: what is the exact command you are running?
[20:22] <tado> kmyst: how do i see that?
[20:22] <kmyst> tado: ls -l client1.key
[20:23] <SJShoe> hitsujiTMO: I ran `sudo apt-get remove wine*`, and like an idiot, just accepted the remove warning, and it started removing everything. And I mean everything...ubuntu-desktop, nautilus, etc...
[20:23] <ManoloMtnez> Hello, I'm having problems with my wireless card (an RTL8191). There's no way to switch it on with Fn+F2. Surprisingly, when I suspend and resume, then it's unblocked... But apparently then I cannot get the ethernet connection to work. Any advice?
[20:23] <Seven_Six_Two> ls -l | grep client1.key
[20:23] <gordonjcp> hitsujiTMO: nothing wrong with the RAM, this is specific to 13.10 *only*
[20:23] <GZA-Genius> MonkeyDust: Figured it out, seems new beta ati driver dont play nice with something, dont know exactly y but that was it. purged it now everything back to norm, can drop to shell, screensaver ect, tnx
[20:23] <tado> kmyst: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6285099/
[20:24] <ManoloMtnez> ManoloMtnez: I should have said, this is a 13.10, on an ASUS F550C
[20:24] <Kyan]> re
[20:25] <kmyst> tado: well it belongs to root and you say root can't copy it??
[20:25] <barterk> he
[20:26] <tado> kmyst: root can copy it, but i need to change permissions to send it to the device (i have still trouble mounting it, so it's either mail it to myself or bluetooth, can't copy it)
[20:26] <kmyst> tado: well you can chmod it to change permissions, chown will change the owner
[20:28] <hitsujiTMO> SJShoe: ahh, i see. altho there should be no wine* packages installed on a base ubuntu system, if you used a ppa it may have updated a common dependancy which got purged on removal of wine and caused you issue. although, that behaviour still should not have happened
[20:28] <daedeloth> ok, xorg-edgers did not help...
[20:28] <hitsujiTMO> daedeloth: post you Xorg.0.log
[20:29] <hitsujiTMO> your*
[20:30] <daedeloth> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6285149/
[20:30] <SJShoe> hitsujiTMO: You're right, there are no wine packages on the base, so I did have to use the ppa. I figured it best to mention something about it in case anyone else had the issue.
[20:31] <Bretos`> hey guys! I am desperately looking for a CLI minesweeper
[20:32] <tado> kmyst: cool, files are over to openvpn client. i have selected them, and it says i need to select at least one remote server
[20:32] <kmyst> tado: you have to specify the server in the config on the client
[20:32] <comander> hello
[20:33] <kmyst> tado: all right there in the guide :)
[20:33] <hitsujiTMO> daedeloth: looks like its an issue with fglrx alright, have you tried switching back to radeondriver?
[20:33] <daedeloth> how do I do that?
[20:33] <tado> kmyst: thing is now i am on android, so the guide doesn't fit any longer
[20:34] <kmyst> tado: ah....well if it were iphone i could help ;)
[20:34] <hitsujiTMO> daedeloth: have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/VideoDriverDetection#Problem:_Need_to_purge_-fglrx
[20:34] <manornk> Hi guys, where can i create community?
[20:35] <godzirra> minimec: No luck still. :/
[20:35] <tado> kmyst: :) any idea where, on the ubuntu side, i can see what the remote server is? i guess it's an ip plus a port, right?
[20:35] <comander> i have a anonymous os and i go rewrite the source codes but i dont decompile\compile filesystem.squsfhs...
[20:35] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | manornk
[20:35] <s-haha-n> how do you connect to ssh via a folder in ubuntu 13.10?   in 13.04   'File'  connect to server would allow me to ssh
[20:35] <daedeloth> ok, brb
[20:35] <kmyst> tado: right, like vpn.example.net 1194
[20:36] <comander> anonymous os is ubuntu based szstem ubuntu 11.10
[20:36] <hitsujiTMO> s-haha-n: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS
[20:36] <kmyst> tado: or substitute the ip if you aren't running dns
[20:36] <kmyst> tado: whatever your home ip is, basically
[20:36] <comander> anonymous os is ubuntu based system ubuntu 11.10
[20:36] <Pici> comander: And we don't support it here.
[20:37] <ManoloMtnez> Sorry, I was looking at the wrong laptop. Anyway, I have this atheros ar9485 which won't switch on. Is anyone familiar with this?
[20:37] <lisbeth_s32> Is this a proper channel for ubuntu and ubuntu fork questions?
[20:37] <hitsujiTMO> lisbeth_s32: what ubuntu fork?
[20:37] <Slart> lisbeth_s32: ubuntu - yes, ubuntu forks.. not quite
[20:37] <lisbeth_s32> hitsujiTMO, Elementary OS. I am having trouble with pulseaudio.
[20:38] <k1l> !noubuntu
[20:38] <daedeloth> alright, well, euh, that seems tow ork
[20:38] <hitsujiTMO> lisbeth_s32: thats not supported here
[20:38] <lisbeth_s32> hitsujiTMO, my issue is just with directory ownership, which should be the same.
[20:38] <daedeloth> well, now I just need to fix up the blazing fan sound...
[20:38] <lisbeth_s32> hitsujiTMO, and the elementary guys are not tehre
[20:38] <k1l> !nobuntu | lisbeth_s32
[20:39] <comander> I compile\decompile file filesystem.sqfshas.... read only please help the file is in casper folder
[20:39] <lisbeth_s32> k1L, do you know a channel where they would be willing to help me out?
[20:39] <k1l> lisbeth_s32: elementary got a own support channel
[20:39] <lisbeth_s32> k1L, nobody is there. It's such a small distro.
[20:40] <lisbeth_s32> k1L, and I get the same issue on ubuntu, so it should be the same software
[20:40] <Seven_Six_Two> is it crackly sound?
[20:40] <lisbeth_s32> k1L, my errors show up as identical on both
[20:40] <comander> eqfvc
[20:40] <comander> sfd
[20:40] <comander> ber
[20:40] <comander> hgvf
[20:40] <comander> ds
[20:40] <FloodBot1> comander: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:40] <comander> bge
[20:40] <lisbeth_s32> No, I can't start the daemon
[20:40] <k1l> lisbeth_s32: #elementary
[20:41] <lisbeth_s32> k1l, I am getting the same errors on BOTH ubuntu, AND elementary. Therefore, it is the same issue.
[20:41] <lisbeth_s32> k1l, It won't hurt just to ask and see if the ubuntu fix works.
[20:42] <Seven_Six_Two> lisbeth_s32, how are you trying to start pulse? did you install it manually? have you changed or created any pulse config files?
[20:43] <lisbeth_s32> I've changed alot of things but only after the error, Seven_Six_Two
[20:43] <lisbeth_s32> when I do pulseaudio --start, I say that "we don't home /home/username"
[20:43] <k1l> lisbeth_s32: sorry to say, but if support is a matter for you you should chose a distro with good support :/
[20:43] <Seven_Six_Two> lisbeth_s32, why are you starting it as a normal user?
[20:44] <lisbeth_s32> lisbeth_s32, I am starting it logged in as root with sudo -s
[20:44] <lisbeth_s32> I eman seven_sex_two
[20:44] <lisbeth_s32> The only thing different about the two distros should be the default apps, and the window manager
[20:45] <Seven_Six_Two> lisbeth_s32, sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio start
[20:45] <Seven_Six_Two> lisbeth_s32, root doesn't have a home  folder in /home\
[20:45] <auronandace> lisbeth_s32: you shouldn't be logging in as root
[20:45] <moppy> does ubutnu have root login nabled?
[20:45] <moppy> *enabled
[20:46] <Seven_Six_Two> lisbeth_s32, yes, what auronandace said. don't log in as root.
[20:46] <moppy> which distro is this?
[20:46] <auronandace> moppy: not by default and we don't support doing it here
[20:46] <k1l> moppy: its disabled by default
[20:46] <Seven_Six_Two> moppy, no, but you can get a root shell manually
[20:46] <k1l> !derivates | lisbeth_s32
[20:46] <k1l> !derivatives | lisbeth_s32
[20:47] <soman> Wny nothing happens when I'm inserting dvd disc in dvd-rom? xubuntu 12.04
[20:47] <bekks> soman: What do you expect to happen?
[20:47] <Seven_Six_Two> soman, because your environment isn't set up to do anything.
[20:48] <hpprinter100> Hi
[20:48] <daedeloth> alright, fan is making a tiny bit more noise than with the new drivers, but acceptable.
[20:48] <soman> bekks: usually thunar automatically opens a root directory of a dvd
[20:48] <daedeloth> a very annoying issue is that now the max resolution on my left screen is ... wrong.
[20:48] <hpprinter100> I am trying to install vmware but unable to get the linux-headers
[20:48] <Seven_Six_Two> soman, one of the trade-offs when using a lightweight desktop is some of the automation that you might be used to.
[20:48] <hpprinter100> I am running xubuntu with saucy
[20:49] <soman> Seven_Six_Two, how I can get dvd's content?
[20:49] <Seven_Six_Two> soman, you can mount the dvd
[20:49] <soman> Seven_Six_Two, /cdrom is empty
[20:49] <Seven_Six_Two> soman, it will be until something is mounted to that folder
[20:49] <hitsujiTMO> hpprinter100: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic
[20:50] <hpprinter100> says i got them installed already
[20:50] <hpprinter100> but vmware is not finding them
[20:50] <hpprinter100> will reinstall vmware
[20:50] <bekks> soman: You can mount the dvd manually.
[20:51] <hitsujiTMO> hpprinter100: i do believe vmware scripts are unable to detect headers beyond 3.2   ...
[20:51] <hpprinter100> ah - know of any fix?
[20:51] <hitsujiTMO> 2 secs
[20:51] <Seven_Six_Two> soman,   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions\
[20:51] <Seven_Six_Two> soman,   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[20:52] <dosequis> hey all - I installed ubuntu on an old thin client so that I could use it as a server. Problem is it only has 2gb of disk space. I have a 300gb usb drive. What's the best way to get ubuntu to use this space?
[20:54] <daedeloth> what's the gdm for ubuntu?
[20:54] <Seven_Six_Two> daedeloth, lightdm
[20:54] <dosequis> for example can I change the default location of where apt installs files to and set it to my external drive?
[20:54] <thePHPdev> Hi, I would like to know how to install Wayland on Ubuntu 13.10 and set it as the default compositor and window manager and all the rest. I could find nothing clear online.
[20:55] <hitsujiTMO> hpprinter100: try http://paste.ubuntu.com/6285250/     however, if its the same issue as with esxi, then the modules may not compile due the face that it may be wriiten with only 2.6 in mind
[20:55] <k1l> dosequis: that sounds like you want something else
[20:55] <hpprinter100> thanks
[20:55] <dosequis> k1l: ok what should i be looking for?
[20:55] <Seven_Six_Two> thePHPdev, I looked into that not too  long ago, and I read that it isn't ready for normal use.
[20:55] <hanes> dosequis you can install ubuntu entirely on the external hdd
[20:55] <k1l> dosequis: you can put folders onto that other drive and mount them form there
[20:56] <ManoloMtnez> I'm trying to use the hardware switch to switch my wireless card on. I've noticed that Fn+F2 (which supposedly switches it on) doesn't show any KeyPress/Release events in xev. How could I map the hardware switch temporarily to some other key combination?
[20:56] <hitsujiTMO> dosequis: you could install ubuntu to the external
[20:56] <dosequis> hanes: yeah ok that's what I was thinking
[20:56] <OerHeks> thePHPdev, there is an PPA, but unsupported ( yet ) >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wayland
[20:56] <dosequis> so yeah install on external usb is best way in my case
[20:56] <hanes> dosequis i think so
[20:57] <hitsujiTMO> thePHPdev: is there a particular reason why you want to install wayland?
[20:57] <dosequis> hanes: ok makes sense
[20:57] <thePHPdev> To avoid the perils of X. Mainly... It's annoying. And I will look into that OerHeks. Thanks.
[20:58] <gordonjcp> thePHPdev: "the perils of X"?
[20:58] <gordonjcp> like what?
[20:58] <kmyst> X is perilious?!
[20:58] <moppy> hitsujiTMO: i installed it to see what it was like. Too many second hand opinions.
[20:58] <hanes> dosequis you can relative simple move /usr and /home to an other partition (or maybe hdd), but
[20:58] <k1l> thePHPdev: keep in mind, that there is not much that runs on wayland for daily use
[20:58] <moppy> ocome on, x is saner than php
[20:59] <kmyst> no lie
[20:59] <thePHPdev> @gordonjcp choppy window movement and windows that are not synced.
[20:59] <Seven_Six_Two> X is great, although I don't program for it. I'm worried that there won't be an equivalent to XDMCP when wayland hits.
[20:59] <dosequis> hanes: yeah that's my other option is to move files / symlink onto mount but I feel that is going to get pretty messy over time...
[20:59] <hanes> dosequis with only 2GiB of space you probably have not much space left anyway…
[20:59] <hitsujiTMO> moppy i'm mainlt asking the question as he said he wanted to use it as his     window manager
[20:59] <soman> Seven_Six_Two, what could be a problem http://pastebin.kde.org/pfwqrvijg/tvughi ?
[20:59] <bekks> soman: XDMCP is a dinosaur which needs to be extincted.
[20:59] <dosequis> hanes: yeah i'm really tight on space
[21:00] <Seven_Six_Two> thePHPdev, wayland isn't (now) going to fix that for you.
[21:00] <dosequis> hanes: i think i'm better off w/ a fresh install on external
[21:00] <hanes> dosequis that's my thought too
[21:00] <Seven_Six_Two> bekks, it needs to be replaced, sure.
[21:00] <thePHPdev> @k1l what about XWayland?
[21:00] <ManoloMtnez> hey guys, I'd really appreciate some help here
[21:00] <kmyst> bekks: well put
[21:00] <cac> Hello. How can I set up NFSv3 and not NFSv4 server on Ubuntu?
[21:00] <hanes> dosequis ok, sounds good
[21:00] <k1l> thePHPdev: not ready.
[21:00] <thePHPdev> @Seveb_Six_Two, Why not?
[21:00] <dosequis> hanes: thanks for the help!
[21:00] <Seven_Six_Two> soman, dvds aren't iso9660, that's cd.
[21:01] <hanes> dosequis np and good luck
[21:01] <thePHPdev> @k1l, OK, is there like an estimate on when it MIGHT be ready?
[21:01] <Darkangel> If i Test Ubuntu 14.04 out and report all the Bugs i find would it help Ubuntu company?
[21:01] <Darkangel> ubuntu 14.04 beta
[21:01] <Seven_Six_Two> soman, what's on the dvd?
[21:01] <Seven_Six_Two> soman, maybe try udf instead of iso9660
[21:01] <k1l> thePHPdev: that is better to be asked in the wayland support.
[21:02] <thePHPdev> OK, Thanks guys.
[21:02] <OerHeks> Darkangel, sure, but join #ubuntu+1 for Tahr support/issues
[21:02] <Darkangel> ok
[21:02] <soman> Seven_Six_Two, here http://www.powerdatarecovery.com/cd-dvd-resources/dvd-file-system.html you can read that iso9660. udf gives same behaviour. I don't know what is on DVD. I have inserted it to check it out.
[21:04] <soman> bekks: xubuntu uses xdmcp?
[21:04] <Seven_Six_Two> soman, can you try without a type?
[21:05] <bekks> soman: The X server is configurable to allow connections using XDMCP. As on every linux distro.
[21:05] <soman> Seven_Six_Two, mount command tells that I should specify the type
[21:05] <Seven_Six_Two> bekks, I think it has to be explicitly enabled in xorg.conf for ubuntu./
[21:06] <Seven_Six_Two> bekks, sorry I take it back. That was for allowing outbound xdmcp from lightdm
[21:06] <bekks> Seven_Six_Two: As for almost every linux distro nowadays, yes. Basically, XDMCP is just a security issue.
[21:07] <Seven_Six_Two> bekks, oh I agree. I wouldn't ever use it over the internet, but on my LAN, it makes managing my server a lot easier (for some things)
[21:07] <daedeloth> alright. first world problems. instead of trying to figure out why the old radeon driver doesn't detect my resolution correctly, I've just fetched a different montior.
[21:07] <Seven_Six_Two> anyhow I have to go, as lecture is over. soman check out the man page for the mount command, and try other filesystems.
[21:07] <bekks> Seven_Six_Two: XDMCP is uncompressed and insecure. It just spams a network. Better use nxclient/nxserver or at least VNC over SSH.
[21:08] <kmyst> nomachine ftw!
[21:08] <pablo_> how may I change desktop manager nothing to do reboot ?
[21:08] <Seven_Six_Two> bekks, I don't like how laggy vnc is, and I'm using xdmcp over gigabit, so it doesn't really affect me.
[21:08] <Seven_Six_Two> pablo_, log out and choose a new desktop when you log back in.
[21:09] <gordonjcp> Seven_Six_Two: as a matter of interest, why are you using a remote desktop?
[21:09] <bekks> Seven_Six_Two: Because you have gigabit, you dont notice how much traffic XDMCP causes.
[21:09] <bekks> Seven_Six_Two: And for me, VNC isnt laggy at all. vncserver has various options.
[21:09] <godzirra> Howdy.
[21:09] <soman> Seven_Six_Two, this is what in log http://goo.gl/0Zy1mI
[21:10] <Seven_Six_Two> bekks, thanks for pointing out nxclient, that looks interesting.
[21:10] <Seven_Six_Two> gordonjcp, I find that some of my file management is easier from a gui.
[21:11] <kmyst> Seven_Six_Two: nomachine nx is waaay better than plain old vnc
[21:11] <mousedelay> Hi, I use Ubuntu 13.10 with fluxbox and I'm having problems with dual monitor, it seems the mouse gets stuck in the middle when I'm moving the cursor and it's very annoying.
[21:11] <Seven_Six_Two> soman, I think it might be a bad burn?
[21:12] <mpnegro> hi
[21:12] <Seven_Six_Two> kmyst, I'm definitely going to check it out. I also occasionally just use ssh -X
[21:12] <mpnegro> I've this error when using devolo in 13.10
[21:12] <kmyst> Seven_Six_Two: it's a bit like a swiss army knife
[21:12] <compdoc> theres an nx server for 13.10?
[21:13] <mousedelay> and I've dual gpu.. intel + nvidia.
[21:13] <compdoc> that works?
[21:13] <gordonjcp> I think I'm going to stop using the onboard Intel here and get another NVidia card
[21:13] <gordonjcp> looks like Intel isn't well supported in 13.10
[21:13] <kmyst> don't know...i still rock LTS for servers
[21:13] <mousedelay> I already tried disabling the edges in display , rebooted but didn't change a thing.
[21:14] <daedeloth> open source drivers are not the same as the commercial ones :(
[21:14] <mousedelay> well I don't actually care about having good performance, I just want to remove this annoying delay while moving the cursor from one monitor to another
[21:15] <hitsujiTMO> mousedelay: you disabled sticky edges?
[21:15] <mousedelay> yes I did, rebooted, and Unity is wierd, cursor is invisible for some reason, but I don't use Unity, I use fluxbox and the cursor is fine
[21:15] <mousedelay> it's just the delay that is bothering me
[21:16] <mousedelay> I had to go to unity because that edges option only appears in Unity
[21:16] <mousedelay> but it didn't solve anything at all.
[21:16] <mousedelay> my intel gpu is hd3000 and nvidia gt540m(already installed with bumblebee)
[21:17] <mousedelay> I saw a post about changing xorg.conf.. but I don't have that file
[21:17] <soman> Seven_Six_Two, you're right. The other disc is mounted automatically. Thanks for help
[21:18] <rostam> HI I am trying to set up static Ip address on eth1. I know how to modify the /etc/network/interfaces for it. However, in Redhat we can create a single file "/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1" to do this. Is there such think in Ubuntu? thx
[21:18] <genii> !xorgconf | mousedelay
[21:19] <mousedelay> I'm not friendly with nvidia-xconfig.. I remember a year ago I tried it and it crashed my screen on boot.
[21:19] <mousedelay> I had to remove xorg.conf afterwards
[21:19] <kmyst> rostam: the interfaces file
[21:19] <mousedelay> but I'll give it a try
[21:20] <mousedelay> genii, can you tell me which option I need to include in xorg.conf in order to stop the mouse delay in the middle?
[21:20] <daedeloth> great. appart from breaking my beautiful fglrx driver, which, I know, is not ubuntu's fault... what's new in 13.10 now?
[21:20] <genii> mousedelay: Sorry, not offhand
[21:20] <raub> Have a vm here running 111.10. Wanto to go to 12.04. So full install or do-release-upgrade?
[21:20] <mousedelay> nvidia-xconfig: command not found
[21:20] <mousedelay> great
[21:20] <Dr_Willis> changes to the lens's is  main thing. and basic mir support daedeloth
[21:20] <daedeloth> hey, can we try Mir already?
[21:20] <raub> makeis 11.10
[21:21] <Dr_Willis> daedeloth:  depends on your video card
[21:22] <kmyst> raub: i've had a vm i've upgraded since 7.10, so either method works :)
[21:22] <daedeloth> I want my fglrx back :(
[21:22] <kingnick42> raub, I normally do a fresh install. Just me though :)
[21:23] <hitsujiTMO> daedeloth: backup your system and try and reinstall fglrx maybe?
[21:23] <kmyst> see i don't get that...i've never had an upgrade bite me so bad i couldn't fix it in 5 minutes in the shell
[21:23] <daedeloth> fglrx is working, it just has a lot of bugs.
[21:23] <daedeloth> and it probably doesn't have bugs
[21:23] <BlitzHere> Quick question. Is it possible to install steam via app store on saucy?
[21:23] <daedeloth> bug chrome has bugs with it. :)
[21:24] <jarray52> Do Bluray drives work well in Linux?
[21:24] <Dr_Willis> BlitzHere:  i always get the steam deb package - it seems to install easier that way
[21:24] <hitsujiTMO> BlitzHere: you need to use the steam deb from steampowered.com
[21:24] <Dr_Willis> jarray52:  as data drives - i belive thats a yes. for watching blueray videos - i think thats a no.
[21:24] <genii> !steam
[21:25] <OerHeks> jarray52, they work well, but cannot play all movies
[21:25] <genii> Hm, probably needs updating, that one
[21:25] <OerHeks> jarray52, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
[21:26] <gianluca_> hello?
[21:26] <gianluca_> is anyone online?
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> heh - steam is refuseing to connect to  the steam network here.. been months since ive last ran steam
[21:26] <BlitzHere> Dr_Willis, hitsujiTMO: Thank you. I'll use the deb. Just wanted to confirm before using the deb
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> gianluca_:  1000+ people here
[21:27] <gianluca_> oh well... I've never used an IRC chat since emule back in 2005 maybe
[21:28] <gianluca_> I've got a problem (well, some problems to be honest) with the new ubuntu studio 13.10
[21:28] <andreb> guys question : I just followed this : https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html ..but my windows machine prompting me for a username and password
[21:29] <hitsujiTMO> !details | gianluca_
[21:30] <Dr_Willis> andreb:  set the users samba password with 'sudo smbpasswd -a username'  perhaps?
[21:30] <gianluca_> I can't here system sound and even the icon bar doesn't work, I can hear youtube videos thogh
[21:30] <gianluca_> sorry, I was writing :(
[21:32] <mpnegro> hi
[21:32] <mpnegro> anyone use devolo-dlan-cockpit
[21:32] <mpnegro> ?
[21:33] <Guest80007> hello everyone
[21:33] <Guest80007> my question regards cloning a ubuntu boot usb pendrive; can I fire?
[21:34] <SDr> Guest80007, please don't ask to ask, just ask away.
[21:34] <c8h10n4h2> hi
[21:34] <Guest80007> alright
[21:34] <SDr> Guest80007, and be (very) patient
[21:34] <Guest80007> :)
[21:35] <gianluca_> anyone can help me?
[21:35] <c8h10n4h2> it depends the kind of help you need
[21:35] <gianluca_> I wrote it down some lines ago :(
[21:35] <Guest80007> I successfully cloned a Xubuntu 10.10 boot pendrive, however, starting from the first boot after cloning, the menus that were created by USB universall installer are gone. What has happened? Thanks
[21:36] <gianluca_> I'll find upand post again :)
[21:36] <Dr_Willis> Guest80007: this is a clone of a LIVE pendrive setup? or a fullinstall?
[21:36] <gianluca_> I can't here system sound and even the icon bar doesn't work, I can hear youtube videos though (Ubuntu studio 13.10 brand new installation from format)
[21:37] <Dr_Willis> how did you clone the drive Guest80007 ?
[21:37] <Guest80007> a full full install :)
[21:37] <gianluca_> *hear
[21:37] <Dr_Willis> Usb Universial installer - doesent do a 'full' install as far as i know. its a live setup
[21:37] <Guest80007> I've used this very same pendrive for three years, today I cloned it for the first time ever
[21:37] <k1l> Guest80007: 10.10? that is outdated some time ago
[21:38] <Dr_Willis> what menus are you refering to exactly? - if its a Live pendrive. you an just make a new live pendrive and copy over the casper-rw but for that Old a setup. id suggest updateing
[21:38] <Guest80007> yes but 10.10 has all I need -- that's why I never upgraded; I've seen "unity" and it sucks :(
[21:39] <k1l> Guest80007: that is a very "not wise" reason. there are alot of other desktops besides unity.
[21:39] <Guest80007> the menu was "try ubuntu without installing", "install ubuntu", "boot from hard disk", etc
[21:39] <Multbrelch> Dear all. Q: How can I find out the actual driver that is installed for my WLAN card? Is it "modprobe -c | grep -i <device numbers>"?
[21:39] <Moorvogi> I joined my ubuntu box to authenticate against Activedirectory but i it requires me to enter <username@DOMAIN.local> . My other ubuntu box only requires me to use <username> but i can't remember what i did... does anyone know what i did or may have done to allow just <username> to be entered?? Typing the full domain is a pain.
[21:39] <Dr_Willis> Guest80007:  those menus would not be on a full install.
[21:40] <Guest80007> those menus were there in my full install for the last three years
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> a live usb uses a casper-rw file to store all changes
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> Guest80007:  i think you are confused as to what a full install is then
[21:40] <Guest80007> it has a casper-rw file
[21:40] <Guest80007> gee that might be then
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> a casper-rw is NOT a full install.. its a LIVE install
[21:40] <jarray52> Dr_Willis: I'm only planning to use the Bluray disk as a data drive. Are all Bluray disk drives the same as far as drivers are concerned(Single-layer, double-layer, BDXL)? Is the only difference USB/Sata, or are there other issues?
[21:41] <gianluca_>  no one wants to help me right?
[21:41] <Guest80007> really??
[21:41] <Dr_Willis> jarray52:  no idea. i dont own one.  I dont plan on buying one any time soon
[21:41] <Dr_Willis> casper-rw - used with a live-usb and persistant save..
[21:41] <Guest80007> I am willing to relinquish calling it "full install"
[21:41] <Dr_Willis> using a persistant save+live usb. should not be a long term solution. theres to many issues with the live-usb setup
[21:41] <hitsujiTMO> Multbrelch: if its a pci device look at: lspci -k
[21:42] <Guest80007> but the question remains: how come after a cloning (with Clonezilla) those menues are gone, but the cloning was impeccable?
[21:42] <Guest80007> wait, there's more
[21:42] <Dr_Willis> i doubt if anyone evne rembers how 10.10 was setup and will be able to help Guest80007  compare the  config files on the 2 usbs
[21:43] <jarray52> OerHeks: I'm only planning to use the Bluray disk as a data drive. Are all Bluray disk drives the same as far as drivers are concerned(Single-layer, double-layer, BDXL)? Is the only difference USB/Sata, or are there other issues as far as drivers are concerned?
[21:43] <Dr_Willis> i just use 'dd' to clone my usb flash drives
[21:43] <Multbrelch> hitsujiTMO, I use "lspci -k | grep -i Wireless" and found it
[21:43] <Multbrelch> and now, hitsujiTMO ?
[21:43] <Multbrelch> How to find the module/driver? hitsujiTMO
[21:43] <Guest80007> the menues seem to be just black (black on black), because I still can navigate, blindly, through those menues
[21:43] <hitsujiTMO> Multbrelch: just use lspci -k ... it will list the kernel driver
[21:44] <hitsujiTMO> dont use grep
[21:44] <Multbrelch> and so
[21:44] <Multbrelch> Ah I see
[21:44] <Multbrelch> thx hitsujiTMO
[21:45] <gianluca_> I can't hear system sound and even the icon bar doesn't work, I can hear youtube videos though (Ubuntu studio 13.10 brand new installation from format)
[21:45] <Guest80007> is it possible that the menus have gotten black all of the sudden after a cloning? and if so, why?
[21:46] <k3n51>  Hey, I want to talk to someone here on IRC, but I don't know anything about it. How can I find some channels? Please, don't type those codes that explain how to find because even it I don't know. And sorry the grammar :x
[21:46] <Ben64> !alis | k3n51
[21:46] <OerHeks> jarray52, you might want to ask that in #hardware, i don't know.
[21:46] <k3n51> I tried to search on google but i couldn't find them (channels)
[21:46] <MavKen> how can you clear the list of recent servers when going through "connect to server" ?
[21:46] <Guest80007> is my ticket closed?
[21:47] <jarray52> OerHeks: Thanks
[21:47] <Multbrelch> Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 Wireless with ath9k, does this make sense? <= I have from time to time re-connects to my WLAN router under Ubuntu 12.04 and thought it might be the driver.  However, under 13.10 the card is working very well, none of such problems. hitsujiTMO
[21:48] <gazzat> I am having issues with installing ubuntu on an alienware r5 17 - anyone out there had any experience of this \/
[21:49] <Ben64> !anyone | gazzat
[21:49] <c8h10n4h2> gazzat, I have it on alienware r11x and runs perfect
[21:50] <hitsujiTMO> Multbrelch: have you looked at http://www.unixmen.com/resolve-slow-connexion-when-using-wifi-in-ubuntu-1104-natty-narwhal/ ? seems to be a common problem with your wireless
[21:50] <gazzat> for some reason, on mine - it boots as i hear the sound, but display is blank. Tried mint also with same results.  Never had problems with ubuntu before
[21:50] <Guest80007> my question was a didactic one; a bizare behaviour that needed to be explained -- an explanation from which I would have learnt a lot
[21:50] <Ben64> gazzat: have you tried nomodeset
[21:50] <vozeldr> i'm planning to order a system76 bonobo extreme... anyone have any experience with system76 or have recommendations for something else?
[21:50] <Guest80007> thanks anyway
[21:51] <c8h10n4h2> gazzat, you can try Lubuntu or Xubuntu to check if it does something different
[21:51] <Guest80007> I'll look for an explanation somewhere else
[21:51] <Guest80007> good bye
[21:51] <gazzat> have tried xubuntu also - did get further but no network connection even with wired :-(
[21:51] <gazzat> Im not sure what nomodeset is ?
[21:51] <Paddy_NI> Has anyone been able to enable/install a DLNA upnp-av renderer on ubuntu? "rygel-gst-renderer" is not an option for me currently.
[21:51] <Multbrelch> hitsujiTMO, thx so much for help ... - what I meant is that's vice-versa, problems in 12.04 but not in 13.10
[21:52] <basichash> How do I kill a process in ubuntu?
[21:52] <gazzat> ill try lubuntu tho
[21:52] <Ben64> !nomodeset | gazzat
[21:52] <gazzat> thanks ubottu - \ill give that a go now
[21:53] <gazzat> thanks everyone - first time ive used IRC - overwhelmed with number of responses :-)
[21:53] <Multbrelch> basichash, "ps -el", search for process and ID, and then "kill -9 <process ID"
[21:53] <basichash> cheers Multbrelch
[21:53] <hitsujiTMO> Multbrelch: try last answer here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/301442/atheros-ar9462-wifi-very-unstable-package-loss
[21:54] <asc232> !details
[21:54] <asc232> !gq
[21:55] <Multbrelch> hitsujiTMO, great as alwways, thx a lot!
[21:57] <vozeldr> is there an ubuntu hardware channel?
[21:57] <hanes> basichash you can also find the process ID with 'pidof'
[21:57] <vozeldr> i've tried searching through the channel list with /msg alis list #ubuntu*
[21:58] <basichash> thanks hanes
[21:58] <wilee-nilee> vozeldr, no such thing as ubuntu hardware, there is a ##hardware channel
[21:58] <hanes> basichash ok, np
[21:59] <vozeldr> well, i'm in the market for a desktop replacement laptop that is "designed" for ubuntu
[21:59] <genii> vozeldr: More specifically, what is your goal in finding such a channel?
[21:59] <Dr_Willis> Paddy_NI:  xbmc can work as a upnp renderer.. i 'send this video to xbmc on the tv...' type feature on my phone in the past.
[22:00] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[22:00] <Paddy_NI> Dr_Willis, Ah silly me I forgot about that
[22:00] <hitsujiTMO> vozeldr: this any good to you? http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[22:00] <vozeldr> i'm probably going to get one from system76 but wanted to talk to some people to see if they had any experience with them or any others
[22:00] <wilee-nilee> vozeldr, number of manufacturers dell is one there is sytem 76, owever none of these have any different hardware not in other laptops.
[22:02] <vozeldr> hitsujiTMO: that link is great, thanks
[22:02] <wilee-nilee> vozeldr, There is an system 76 area at the ubuntu forums, a conversation about is chat this is support, there is #ubuntu-offtopic however
[22:03] <vozeldr> ok, thanks... i joined there
[22:05] <marc_> sup
[22:10] <Eristoff> o/
[22:10] <armyriad> What is the best application to record my screen for a screencast?
[22:10] <Eristoff> vlc?
[22:10] <popey> armyriad: kazam
[22:10] <gianluca_> no one helps new people... thanks
[22:10] <popey> gianluca_: wassup?
[22:11] <gianluca_> I asked like 5 times!
[22:11] <popey> gianluca_: well, i just arrived
[22:11] <wilee-nilee> gianluca_, how would anyone know who new people are, that is a a factitious statement.
[22:12] <wilee-nilee> !patience | gianluca_ many avoid complainers
[22:14] <anakmanis> hi
[22:16] <Trudko> guys where should I install my web application I am working on? Whats standard place for that home folder var ?
[22:16] <irssi-mike> acroread keeps telling me no printer connected even tho i can print in browser, what can i do?
[22:16] <Trudko> *home folder or var or ?
[22:18] <gianluca_> I have a serious problem with audio
[22:18] <gianluca_> I can't hear system sounds and the audio icon doesn't work
[22:18] <gianluca_> ubuntu studio 13.10
[22:19] <hitsujiTMO> Trudko: you can work on it in your home folder ... symlink it to your web root (/var/www/aoo or whatever)
[22:19] <hitsujiTMO> Trudko: but it really does depend on what your working on
[22:20] <Trudko> I have ruby on rails application
[22:21] <gianluca_> someone please! help me!
[22:22] <gianluca_> please I'll never use IRC to ask things but, please help me now :'(
[22:22] <k1l> !sound | gianluca_
[22:22] <k1l> thats all i know :/
[22:23] <gianluca_> I don't even have sound preference
[22:23] <k1l> ubuntu-studio might use jack audio with rt kernel. but that is not my area
[22:24] <hitsujiTMO> gianluca_: then check if your hardware is listed in lspci or lsusb
[22:25] <gianluca_> Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] BeaverCreek HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 6500D and 6400G-6600G series]
[22:25] <nico_897> salve gente
[22:25] <hitsujiTMO> gianluca_: thats your hdmi out, there should be another audio interface
[22:26] <gianluca_> Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH Azalia Controller (rev 01)
[22:27] <gianluca_> is that it?
[22:28] <gianluca_> !sound
[22:29] <hitsujiTMO> gianluca_: only info i find on it: http://askubuntu.com/questions/361854/ubuntu-13-10-no-sound
[22:29] <gianluca_> thank you a lot!!!
[22:29] <gianluca_> I'll let you know if that worked
[22:29] <gianluca_> :)
[22:30] <pfifo> wat? http://fpaste.org/48758/38248096/
[22:30] <hanes> gianluca_ only thing i can say is, that changing the output in pulse-audio from duplex to out solved my problem once…
[22:31] <bill_> Installed UbuntuStudio which uses xfce - settings are not being saved between sessions - any idea
[22:31] <neopran> Hey guys, I'm having a weird network problem on a 12.04 box. eth0 is setup with dchp in the interfaces file. NetworkManager is uninstalled. I can SSH into it and NFS shares from it work. BUT I can't ping anything on the same network or the Internet. (can't do updates....). I also can't SSH back into the 1st machine. All my machines on the network get their IP info from a router with Static DHCP assignments and they can all access the inter
[22:31] <neopran> net and each other just fine...
[22:33] <hanes> gianluca_ only thing i can say is, that changing the output in pulse-audio from duplex to out solved my problem once…
[22:33] <pfifo> "static dhcp"
[22:33] <high_fiver>  neopran
[22:34] <high_fiver> neopran: whats the output of $ ip route
[22:34] <high_fiver> neopran: are your defaults route set ok?
[22:35] <neopran> I have it that way so ppl who connect to my Wifi get an IP address and my 2-3 machines are assigned in the router by MAC address so they dont change.
[22:35] <neopran> just a sec I'll get that for you
[22:35] <pfifo> neopran: you may need to add the computers IP address as a virtual server on your router, and to enable ping turn off DDoS protection in your router.
[22:35] <neopran> I can't ping local machines from that 1 machines.
[22:36] <neopran> high_fiver: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6285728/
[22:36] <hitsujiTMO> still the same problem neopran ?
[22:36] <neopran> Yep
[22:36] <pfifo> neopran: again... turn of DDoS protection in your router
[22:36] <neopran> pfifo: 192.168.1.100 can ping 192.168.1.101 but *101 cant ping *100
[22:37] <neopran> pfifo: Where would I find that option anyway? In dd-wrt ?
[22:37] <pfifo> neopran: ok leave it on, and good luck with your issue?
[22:37] <repudiate> What up fellas??
[22:37] <high_fiver> looks fine
[22:37] <high_fiver> neopran: looks fine
[22:38] <high_fiver> neopran: can you ping default gateway?
[22:38] <neopran> high_fiver: nope
[22:38] <high_fiver> neopran: check syslog for iptables blocked items
[22:39] <neopran> high_fiver: last i checked i had iptables off just in case, let me check again
[22:39] <high_fiver> neopran: keep a ping to default gw running
[22:40] <neopran> high_fiver: is ufw disable good enough ?
[22:40] <high_fiver> neopran: yeah
[22:41] <neopran> high_fiver: ok so it was off and i just disabled it again just in case ... same result
[22:42] <neopran> i don't see anything relevant in syslog either
[22:42] <high_fiver> something is blocking those packets
[22:43] <high_fiver> run wireshark maybe to confirm that
[22:43] <high_fiver> or tcpdump
[22:43] <neopran> the thing that irks me the most is that i can SSH into it just fine and also the NFS shares from it work ... but I can't get out
[22:44] <neopran> ok i'll try that and report back
[22:44] <pfifo> that sound like what happens when 2 machines on a subnet have the same IP address
[22:44] <high_fiver> yeah that kinda confirms ufw is stopped and nothing should be blocked
[22:45] <neopran> I'll check all machine's IPs again but I already tried that last night just in case.
[22:46] <high_fiver> ping your own IP and run $ arp -v after
[22:46] <high_fiver> might show which int that IP is on
[22:47] <pfifo> this machines IP address is 100? or did you just use that as an example? Is that the first address of your DHCP pool?
[22:47] <neopran> 100 is the machine I'm currently on. 101 is the one with problems.
[22:47] <pfifo> neopran: what is the pool?
[22:47] <high_fiver> does 100 & 101 fall within the subnet
[22:48] <neopran> pfifo: 100-199
[22:48] <neopran> high_fiver: I can ping 101 from 101.
[22:48] <high_fiver> network and subnet mask?
[22:48] <neopran> I have the output or arp -v lemme paste it
[22:48] <high_fiver> cool
[22:49] <neopran> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6285786/
[22:49] <pfifo> neopran: why are you statically assigning IP addresses that are in the pool?
[22:49] <neopran> pfifo: I do it from inside the router by MAC address. It's so they don't change on me. I guess they're called Static Leases.
[22:50] <high_fiver> subnet?
[22:50] <neopran> 255.255.255.0
[22:50] <hitsujiTMO> neopran: if you want to assign static leases you should still assign outside the pool
[22:51] <high_fiver> brb
[22:51] <fishscene> Some DHCP servers mandate they be IN the pool.
[22:51] <neopran> hitsujiTMO: I didn't know that. The thing is it worked like this just fine for at least a year. And I know for a fact that some updates broke it, that machines just exports some NFS shares and does weekly updates.
[22:51] <dD> is there a simple way to resize an encrypted drive? I have to install Windows, without losing my current partition and can't find a simple way to do it.
[22:51] <hitsujiTMO> fishscene: dd-wrt doesn't
[22:52] <neopran> Now I can't do updates anymore since it can't go anywhere outside... that's how I noticed it :S
[22:52] <pfifo> neopran: can you get this machine working correctly from a livecd or a different os
[22:52] <neopran> pfifo: Yeah I tried a LiveCD last night of 12.04 and DHCP was just fine. It got that same 101 address and I could browse the net and everything was fine.
[22:52] <hitsujiTMO> dD: no. you need to use tools provided by the encryption software, most don't support resizing
[22:54] <pfifo> neopran: pastebin you interfaces file
[22:55] <neopran> pfifo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6285812/
[22:55] <pfifo> neopran: can you ping the default gateway?
[22:55] <dD> hitsujiTMO, Thanks.  So there's really no choice right? I've tried looking into live windows usbs or installing in an external hdd but none of that works.  Do you know of any other alternative?
[22:56] <neopran> pfifo: nope
[22:56] <hitsujiTMO> dd: fraid not
[22:57] <pfifo> neopran: pastebin the output of 'ip addr'
[22:57] <neopran> sure just a sec
[22:57] <neopran> pfifo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6285835/
[22:58] <sephioh> hi all, im having some problems with nautilus
[22:58] <sephioh> after trying open a directory with it, nautilus shutdown with this message
[22:58] <sephioh> http://pastebin.com/1ejzDWLX
[22:59] <sephioh> i already purged nautilus package and reinstalled, but the problem stills
[23:00] <pfifo> neopran: run this 'sudo ip route delete 169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0'
[23:01] <neopran> done
[23:01] <pfifo> neopran: can you ping your default gateway now?
[23:02] <neopran> still nothing
[23:02] <pfifo> neopran: can you pastebin the out put of the ping command
[23:02] <ArielX> wew!
[23:02] <neopran> sure just a sec
[23:02] <Arpad2> how can I upgrade to 13.10 If I have broken packages? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6285807/
[23:03] <wilee-nilee> Arpad2: fix the broken packages.
[23:03] <neopran> pfifo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6285856/    basically there's no output unless I cancel it.
[23:03] <high_fiver> neopran: netstat -rn
[23:04] <wilee-nilee> Arpad2: any of this ppa associated?
[23:04] <neopran> high_fiver: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6285864/
[23:05] <Arpad2> wilee-nilee: don't know
[23:06] <pfifo> neopran: try 'ping -v 192.168.1.1'
[23:06] <cabral> hi. i'm trouble on nautilus.
[23:06] <cabral> anyone can help?
[23:06] <hitsujiTMO> arpad2 did you install any ppas for graphics?
[23:06] <Arpad2> wilee-nilee: should I uncheck all ppa?
[23:06] <pfifo> Arpad2: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[23:06] <high_fiver> neopran: try setting a static IP
[23:06] <Arpad2> pfifu: xubuntu 13.04
[23:06] <neopran> pfifo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6285873/
[23:07] <pfifo> neopran: have you tried rebooting your router?
[23:07] <neopran> high_fiver: included in the router's DHCP pool or outside of it ? I also tried setting the same IP address statically with the same result.
[23:07] <Arpad2> hitsujiTM0: I tried to install nvidia, but was unsuccessful
[23:07] <high_fiver> neopran: you sail you have removed networkmanager, might have lost some reps..?
[23:07] <wilee-nilee> Arpad2: really, just unchecking the ppa  stops updates, there is ppa-purge to remove the ppa and its packages to return to the repos  ersions
[23:07] <neopran> pfifo: countless times ...
[23:08] <high_fiver> gtg, gl
[23:08] <pfifo> neopran: have you tried using a different IP?
[23:08] <neopran> high_fiver: that was after the install, it was still working after.
[23:08] <wilee-nilee> !ppa-purge | Arpad2
[23:08] <neopran> pfifo: I'll try a different IP address now and report back.
[23:09] <OerHeks> !details | cabral
[23:09] <Arpad2> wilee-nilee: okey, I will look into that
[23:09] <cabral> i'm using 13.10
[23:09] <wilee-nilee> Arpad2: linux gives you the control realy mess stuff up, so document what you do, andk ow now to fix anything you do.
[23:09] <cabral> nautilus no open any folder
[23:10] <matt_> j
[23:10] <matt_> hi
[23:10] <cabral> ever returt this.
[23:10] <cabral> nautilus: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/nautilus/extensions-3.0/libnautilus-b1.so: undefined symbol: nautilus_file_is_mime_type
[23:13] <OerHeks> cabral, did you install any PPA for nautilus? i cannot find that libnautilus-b1
[23:13] <neopran> high_fiver, pfifo: So I changed the router Static Lease for that machine. It got a random IP address now and it's .155  Same ping result.
[23:13] <hitsujiTMO> cabral what is output of: uname -a
[23:13] <neopran> Should I try a static IP  in the interfaces file now ?
[23:14] <jeffrey_f> quick question: where does the file that networkmanager uses for wireless connections live and what is the file name?
[23:14] <OerHeks> hitsujiTMO, he stated 13.10
[23:14] <jmgk> hi all
[23:14] <hitsujiTMO> OerHeks: wondering if hes on beta or release
[23:16] <cabral> OerHeks, i not install nothing. just update for 13.10 and this happened
[23:18] <wilee-nilee> jeffrey_f: what is the end goal?
[23:19] <jeffrey_f> wilee-nilee, looking to set that file on a few machines I use.
[23:21] <pfifo> neopran: pastebin your /var/log/dpkg.log for my collection, then format and reinstall
[23:22] <hitsujiTMO> cabral: you may want to report this as a bug on launchpad
[23:22] <neopran> lol ... hold on, that's what I was trying to avoid :S
[23:24] <pfifo> neopran: have you tried booting with an older kernel?
[23:24] <neopran> One last thing. I changed from DHCP on the machine to static.... http://paste.ubuntu.com/6285926/ Same result.
[23:24] <cabral> hitsujiTMO, on askubuntu already something like this since 10-12-13. i'm waiting some answer
[23:24] <hitsujiTMO> http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://askubuntu.com/questions/356975/nautilus-crash-after-upgrade-to-13-10     is this your question?
[23:24] <neopran> I only have 1 kernel and the recovery one in the GRUB menu.
[23:25] <pfifo> neopran: are you sure? look in /boot for vmlinuz
[23:25] <fugitive> Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me figure out how to install my NVIDIA proprietary drivers
[23:26] <neopran> pfifo: yeah just vmlinuz-3.2.0-29-generic
[23:26] <neopran> pfifo: dpkg.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/6285934/
[23:27] <neopran> pfifo: Also GRUB won't actually boot my default choice ... but that's for another day lol
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> fugitive: it is  best to use the drivers in the repos.
[23:27] <hitsujiTMO> cabral: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://askubuntu.com/questions/356975/nautilus-crash-after-upgrade-to-13-10 requested that this be reported as a bug on launchpad
[23:28] <fugitive> wilee-nilee: I am trying to get playonlinux to work and I keep getting this message "PlayOnLinux is unable to find 32bits OpenGL libraries. you might encounter problem with your games."
[23:28] <pfifo> neopran: I notice you recently installed/upgrades ebtables
[23:29] <jeffrey_f> wilee-nilee: Anything?
[23:30] <neopran> pfifo: Hmm... not intentionally I guess.
[23:30] <NixFish> fugitive: Try: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[23:30] <neopran> pfifo: I had kvm and libvirt installed and I thought it might have something to do with it...
[23:30] <neopran> I tried to remove those last night
[23:31] <pfifo> neopran: ok, removed, not installed
[23:31] <fugitive> NixFish: it says ia32-libs is already the newest version.
[23:32] <pfifo> neopran: your dpkg.log dosent show the upgrade that broke it then
[23:32] <neopran> pfifo: There's 11 files ...
[23:32] <neopran> Let me find a relevant one
[23:33] <TuxBlackEdo> this channel sucks
[23:34] <pfifo> !language | TuxBlackEdo
[23:35] <wilee-nilee> long gone
[23:35] <pfifo> poor wilee-nilee has join/part messages showing?
[23:36] <wilee-nilee> no
[23:36] <wilee-nilee> pfifo: however I do have an ignore
[23:37] <neopran> pfifo: Here you go. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6285986/
[23:37] <jumfernandez> hello
[23:37] <jumfernandez> i need help
[23:39] <pfifo> neopran: this shows that you installed network manager here
[23:39] <wilee-nilee> !details | jumfernandez always start here
[23:39] <fugitive> I am still getting PlayOnLinux is unable to find 32bits OpenGL libraries. After running sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[23:41] <pfifo> why cant we have a system named WorkOnLinux?
[23:41] <neopran> pfifo: 2013-09-05 11:56:13 upgrade network-manager 0.9.4.0-0ubuntu4.2 0.9.4.0-0ubuntu4.3
[23:41] <jumfernandez> yes thanks wilee-nilee ubottu
[23:41] <neopran> then 2013-09-05 11:57:06 status installed network-manager 0.9.4.0-0ubuntu4.3
[23:41] <cordell> is there a live cd/usb of ubuntu that ships w/ mir by default so that it can be tested?
[23:42] <pfifo> neopran: didnt you say you removed nm?
[23:42] <neopran> Yeah I wanted to. Since I don't use the GUI on that machine.
[23:42] <neopran> I thought I did remove it.
[23:43] <neopran> I figured since I'm in init 3 I didn't need it.
[23:43] <hitsujiTMO> cordell: install unity-system-compositor in init mir
[23:43] <pfifo> neopran: what happens if you remove eth0 from the interfaces file and reboot/restart network
[23:44] <pfifo> theres no such thing as init 3 on ubuntu
[23:44] <neopran> damn...
[23:44] <Dr_Willis> !runlevel
[23:44] <neopran> OK let me try removing eth0 and reboot to see what happens.
[23:45] <jumfernandez> i have an ubuntu version in a desktop pc, and i have an usb wifi adaptador brand TP-LINK WN8200ND with a chipset brand REALTEK rtl8192cu, and i can't make it work. I've tried everything, ndiswrapper, driver's linux and when i put 'lsusb' not recognize and when i put 'iwconfig' not appear 'wlan0'
[23:45] <kichigai> Hey all. I'm having a problem with getting my Broadcomm 4401 10/100 Ethernet adapter to be recognized under 12.04 LTS. I have the b44 module loaded, but eth0 is not appearing.
[23:46] <pfifo> Hi Dr_Willis
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> mooo pfifo
[23:46] <zandm7> Quick question here: Is running "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade" basically the same thing as opening the Software Updater application?
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> jumfernandez:  untill the drivers are working right.. you wont have a wlan* for the device
[23:47] <hitsujiTMO> zandm7: software update performs dist-upgrade not upgrade
[23:47] <Dr_Willis> jumfernandez:  checked askubuntu.com about that specific chipet yet?
[23:47] <zandm7> What's the difference?
[23:47] <pfifo> zandm7: I bet the GUI uses dist-upgrade instead of just upgrade
[23:47] <zandm7> Thanks pfifo, what's the difference between the two though?
[23:47] <Ben64> zandm7: man apt-get
[23:47] <Dr_Willis> dist-upgrade is more intensive. ;)
[23:48] <jumfernandez> no Dr_Willis, i will chek
[23:48] <Dr_Willis> normally i see it pulls in held kernels. and perhaps a few other things.
[23:48] <hitsujiTMO> zand7: dist-upgrade will install new dependancies ( ie kernel updates )
[23:48] <pfifo> distt-upgrade will install new packages if they are needed to satisfy dependacies, update will hold back the affected packages
[23:48] <Dr_Willis> all i use during beta testing is sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:49] <zandm7> OK so basically apt-get upgrade is a bit more conservative than dist-upgrade?
[23:49] <neopran> pfifo: I commeted out all eth0 entries in the interfaces file. Restarted network and eth0 was down. Rebooted and same thing.
[23:49] <pfifo> all i use ever is sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:49] <Dr_Willis> dist-upgrade is more intensive. ;)
[23:49] <jumfernandez> what question in askubuntu? Dr_Willis
[23:49] <zandm7> K awesome thanks guys!
[23:49] <Matthew22> Can some one help me I'm installing Ubuntu from a flash drive at the very end it says executing grub-install/dev/sad this is a fatal error. What do I do??
[23:50] <jumfernandez> what should i ask in askubuntu.com ? Dr_Willis
[23:50] <Dr_Willis> Matthew22:  try the boot-repair tool yet?
[23:50] <Dr_Willis> jumfernandez:  type in that chipset and your ubuntu release  - it has a search engine
[23:50] <Matthew22> Dr_willis what's the boot-repair tool?
[23:51] <neopran> Is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpstartHowto deprecated? I thought in 12.04 changing   env DEFAULT_RUNLEVEL= to =3 in /etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf  would still work.
[23:51] <Dr_Willis> Matthew22:  its mentiooned at the fix grub/boot repair ubuntu wiki pages.. it fixes boot issues
[23:51] <katkiss> So, you all, how do you get on #mintlinux channel?
[23:52] <Dr_Willis> neopran:  ive not seen runlevel matter in ages.
[23:52] <Dr_Willis> !mint > katkiss
[23:52] <neopran> Changing it from 5 to 3 dropped the GUI like I expected though.
[23:52] <Dr_Willis> neopran:  if you want X to not start. use the TEXT mode option
[23:53] <Dr_Willis> !text
[23:53] <neopran> Alrighty.
[23:53] <alaY> Matthew22: or maybe u can try "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" with your live usb?
[23:53] <katkiss> ubottu, how do I see your private message?
[23:53] <Dr_Willis> katkiss:  it should be in your irc client somewhere
[23:53] <SAM113101> how do I insert a line break in my zsh prompt?
[23:53] <pfifo> \\n
[23:53] <Dr_Willis> !mint | katkiss
[23:54] <pfifo> err \n
[23:54] <SAM113101> pfifo: doesn't work
[23:54] <katkiss> thanks
[23:54] <Jie> hi
[23:55] <LividJava> Ello
[23:55] <MKCoin> hey, I have a program running on another virtual terminal, is it possible to take control of it from a terminal here?
[23:55] <pfifo> SAM113101: not sure then, works great in bash
[23:56] <Dr_Willis> MKCoin:  screen or tmux or byobu. but you need to run those first
[23:56] <LividJava> i wanna know if i can load ubuntu from a usb stick without deleting my orginal os??
[23:56] <Dr_Willis> LividJava:  the installer cn resize the windows partions
[23:56] <LividJava> what if i load from a usb stick
[23:56] <MKCoin> ah I got it.
[23:56] <MKCoin> I just used nohup program --replace&
[23:57] <MKCoin> :P
[23:57] <hitsujiTMO> LividJava: you can, but make sure to install grub to the usb not to /dev/sda
[23:57] <Dr_Willis> LividJava:  the ubuntu installer.. from cd, or usb.. can resize the windows partions.. its the same partion
[23:57] <Dr_Willis> oops installer ;)
[23:57] <Dr_Willis> LividJava:  if you mean can you install TO a usb flash drive. thats doable also
[23:57] <Jie> Tux` :)
[23:58] <LividJava> ahh i see so my D: Recovery drove won't be affected thx
[23:58] <Dr_Willis> LividJava:  when in doubt make backups.. make a windows-restore DVD set also
[23:58] <LividJava> ok
[23:58] <Dr_Willis> i wonde rif im the only person that makes a windows-restore dvd set for every new windows machine he gets..
[23:59] <To0Ls> I have an SD card in my reader that I want to reduce wear on. If I send you a pastebin of my /etc/fstab and my card's UUID, could someone quickly write up a line  with the noatime flag that I can add to this file?
[23:59] <dtcrshr> booo
[23:59] <To0Ls> I'm not sure how to make this line.. :/