| micahg | zequence: depends how far back you're backporting, I'd suggest getting the dependency relaxed | 02:41 |
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| micahg | zequence: if you're going from saucy to raring for ardour3, I'd be fine applying a diff to relax the dependency (would've been better to get it fixed in saucy, but that ship's sailed) | 02:42 |
| zequence | micahg: My goal was precise, but not sure if that is at all possible | 07:22 |
| zequence | I'd rather skip the releases in between and just backport whatever packages that are needed for ardour3 to end up there | 07:23 |
| zequence | As I've understood, you can't skip releases like that | 07:24 |
| zequence | You have to backport back one release at the time, right? | 07:24 |
| smartboyhw_ | OvenWerks, zequence: The GRUB change has made Studio impossible to use UEFI, as told by xnox. | 08:33 |
| smartboyhw_ | I mean, the GRUB boot item. | 08:33 |
| smartboyhw_ | He requests us to revert such changes. | 08:33 |
| cub | zequence, do you want help with creating the table on the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageListSaucy ? | 10:33 |
| smartboyhw_ | OvenWerks, zequence: It's Bug 1242417. BTW Kubuntu might be releasing a 13.10.1 release based on the bugfix to this. Would you guys want a re-spin also? (If it is technically possible) | 10:57 |
| ubottu | bug 1242417 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "UEFI install broken when GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR!=Ubuntu (e.g. Kubuntu/UbuntuStudio)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1242417 | 10:57 |
| zequence | cub: Yes please, just follow what I've done. | 13:41 |
| zequence | I've done A,B and C so far | 13:41 |
| zequence | Might be a good idea to copy the text somewhere else, before saving, in case something goes wrong. Been a while since I had a problem, but I guess there could be one if two people are working on it at the same time | 13:42 |
| zequence | smartboyhw: We were discussing that bug yesterday | 13:43 |
| smartboyhw | zequence, OK, so what's the resolution? | 13:43 |
| zequence | So, we're following the progress of that bug report | 13:43 |
| zequence | Someone is working on it | 13:43 |
| smartboyhw | zequence, who? xnox? | 13:44 |
| zequence | smartboyhw: You seem to mix up UEFI with secure boot | 13:44 |
| zequence | UEFI is a replacement for BIOS, which requires a new way of installing - you need a special partition for UEFI | 13:44 |
| zequence | secureboot is a feature for UEFI | 13:45 |
| smartboyhw | zequence, yes | 13:45 |
| smartboyhw | zequence, but do you want to respin the image if the "somebody" got the SRU out? | 13:46 |
| zequence | smartboyhw: That would be best, yes | 13:49 |
| smartboyhw | zequence, sure | 13:49 |
| zequence | cub: We can do the categorization and inclusion part after we'de done making tables of everything | 14:19 |
| zequence | Each category should be a link, that points to a section of the category page. I'll fix that later | 14:19 |
| zequence | We define categories as we categorize. Afterwards we can adjust by removing or adding new categories, if needed | 14:20 |
| cub | I was thinking of the making table part | 14:24 |
| cub | it's a lot of rows to plow thorugh | 14:24 |
| cub | unless you want to do them all? | 14:24 |
| zequence | No, it would be great if you could helå | 14:24 |
| zequence | help* | 14:25 |
| cub | oh right, you have already answered that earlier. | 14:25 |
| zequence | yep :) | 14:25 |
| ttoine | zequence, the unauthorized stuff are removed from spreadshirt | 15:24 |
| zequence | ttoine: That was fast :) | 15:45 |
| smartboyhw | zequence, it turns out I'm the one who has to fix the stuff-.- (fixing and waiting for review to sponsor) | 15:46 |
| zequence | smartboyhw: Fixing, how? | 15:46 |
| smartboyhw | zequence, you can see in the trunk lp:ubuntustudio-default-settings | 15:46 |
| zequence | smartboyhw: don't do any changes without our concent, please | 15:47 |
| smartboyhw | zequence, OK | 15:47 |
| zequence | smartboyhw: It's not cool to revert someones changes and not communicating about it | 15:47 |
| zequence | you are not the boss here | 15:47 |
| zequence | first you talk about it, then you make the change, ok? | 15:47 |
| smartboyhw | zequence, I thought you said it should be fixed? | 15:48 |
| smartboyhw | ...... | 15:48 |
| smartboyhw | Sorry | 15:48 |
| zequence | Yes, of course. But, there's a matter of HOW | 15:48 |
| smartboyhw | zequence, sure | 15:48 |
| zequence | smartboyhw: OvenWerks is the one who made the change. He should be involved in discussions | 15:51 |
| zequence | smartboyhw: I can't find any change you have made | 15:53 |
| smartboyhw | zequence, oh? | 15:53 |
| smartboyhw | DId I not push then? | 15:53 |
| zequence | smartboyhw: please don't | 15:53 |
| zequence | you have your own branch, right? | 15:53 |
| smartboyhw | zequence, it's here https://code.launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/ubuntu/trusty/ubuntustudio-default-settings/fix-bug-1242417/+merge/192179 | 15:54 |
| smartboyhw | (That's for actual upload though by then) | 15:54 |
| zequence | smartboyhw: remove the merge request please | 15:55 |
| smartboyhw | zequence, done | 15:57 |
| smartboyhw | Good night, BTW, it's 11:57 P.M | 15:57 |
| zequence | OvenWerks: I'd rather stay out of this, since I have enough on my table, so if you could please have a look at what changes were proposed by Howard, and also see about the bug report | 15:59 |
| zequence | OvenWerks: We need to make Ubuntu Studio bootable on UEFI systems, and we should respin the image once a fix is in place | 16:00 |
| zequence | OvenWerks: If you'd like to keep the way our GRUB menu works, perhaps there is another way. You could discuss it on the bug, IRC or on a mail list, | 16:00 |
| zequence | OvenWerks: This is Howards branch https://code.launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/ubuntu/trusty/ubuntustudio-default-settings/fix-bug-1242417 | 16:01 |
| ttoine | zequence, the legal service of spreadshirt is efficient, but very exigent | 16:34 |
| zequence | OvenWerks: cjwatson suggested we do the change, so I'm going to go ahead and do it, both on our dev branch as well as make a merge request | 17:08 |
| zequence | ..to the saucy release | 17:08 |
| zequence | Then I suggest a discussion between different parties, and the maintainer cjwatson about future changes (on his request) | 17:09 |
| cub | the ubuntu wiki is driving me nuts with the login problems | 19:15 |
| zequence | cub: I was thinking maybe we could script the whole thing | 19:20 |
| zequence | I should look into that | 19:20 |
| cub | it might be difficult since there's only spaces between them | 19:21 |
| cub | we have a similar wiki at work and I always end up doing it manually anyway | 19:21 |
| zequence | cub: I think it should be doable | 19:22 |
| cub | woaw, we include the DAISY player! :D | 19:22 |
| zequence | the first items are easy enough to filter. The last bit is text of random length | 19:22 |
| zequence | cub: We don't include all of those | 19:22 |
| zequence | they are just all within the "sound" category in Ubuntu packages | 19:22 |
| cub | aha | 19:22 |
| cub | well, we should include daisy since I made the first daisy book ever. | 19:23 |
| cub | I'm starting to edit some now | 19:23 |
| cub | zequence, you remove all the version numbers? | 19:34 |
| zequence | cub: Yes, we don't really need them | 19:34 |
| zequence | plus, they could change during the release | 19:35 |
| cub | exactly | 19:35 |
| cub | hmm didn't get far. The dog complains. :P bbl | 19:45 |
| zequence | cub: I have a script almost ready that will make our lives easier | 20:10 |
| cub | really? how did you make it? | 20:27 |
| cub | anyway, heading to bed. I'll take a look at the page tomorrow morning if there is anything left to edit on my daily commute | 20:31 |
| OvenWerks | zequence: Sorry it took so long. That change is fine in -settings. I would like to do things differently anyway. Maybe add a Flavour keyword/variable. | 20:57 |
| zequence | I've realized Ubuntu branches are not duplicates of Ubuntu Studio ones. The latest commits to our branch are a bit strange | 20:59 |
| zequence | Howard made the change to the Ubuntu trusty branch, and asked to merge | 20:59 |
| zequence | impossible to merge with our branch | 20:59 |
| zequence | so, I had to add the diffs manually | 20:59 |
| zequence | I'm seeing some problems in the way we deal with branches | 20:59 |
| OvenWerks | zequence: yes, It is something we are still learning | 21:05 |
| OvenWerks | Micha was doing all that for us before | 21:05 |
| OvenWerks | zequence: If we do much more with the grub stuff, we will probably have to watch the main package so we can keep ours up. (there are a few packages, we only need to do one) | 21:08 |
| zequence | OvenWerks: Have you ever had problems with desktop sound on saucy? | 21:49 |
| zequence | It seems there's a few complaining about not having pulseaudio working at all for them | 21:49 |
| OvenWerks | never | 22:00 |
| OvenWerks | I have common audio cards though. | 22:01 |
| OvenWerks | Intel HDA and ice1712 | 22:01 |
| zequence | OvenWerks: I've seen people having problems with HDA | 22:08 |
| zequence | I have HDA too, and I've never had problems either | 22:08 |
| OvenWerks | Hda is just a bus spec really so I guess it may depend on what codec is dropped on that bus. | 22:09 |
| OvenWerks | If you look at the switches for the alsa hda driver... there is a long list depending on the codec and configuration. | 22:10 |
| zequence | Well, it | 22:11 |
| zequence | it's not really that UBuntu Studio specific. Probably all sorts of users get problems, and are reporting bugs | 22:11 |
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