[02:12] <tinman> my swappiness settings got messed up when i installed KDE. its reverted back to 60.  where is the swappiness setting in studio? i ran across it by accident once n forgot where it is
[02:12] <holstein> tinman: are you having an issue?
[02:12] <holstein> if not, just use the machine, and look into it if swapiness becomes an issue
[02:13] <tinman> it is an issue
[02:13] <holstein> tinman: in what way?
[02:13] <tinman> its swapping and slowing down the computer when i have have RAM free. it doesnt need to swap and drag down the system
[02:14] <tinman> its not in /etc/syscntl.conf or /etc/sysctrl.d
[02:15] <holstein> !swapiness
[02:15] <holstein> !swap
[02:15] <tinman> its different on studio than on xfce or ubuntu
[02:15] <tinman> i should have written it down  >_<
[02:15] <holstein> tinman: shouldnt be.. AFAIK
[02:15] <tinman> but it is
[02:16] <holstein> tinman: ok
[02:16] <tinman> i found this out myself when i first started using studio
[02:16] <holstein> tinman: run the live CD, and set it to what you find
[02:16] <holstein> or just set it to what you think you need
[02:16] <tinman> i should have written it down. i knew there was no documentation for the change  >_<
[02:16] <tinman> i'd love to change it. i'm just looking for the conf file
[02:18] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/103915/how-do-i-configure-swappiness
[02:18] <tinman> but it's not where it is on all the rest of the 'buntu versions (they moved it in studio and didnt document)
[02:18] <holstein> i would look into other options.. i dont think this is your issue
[02:18] <tinman> but it is
[02:18] <holstein> tinman: they didnt, actually
[02:19] <tinman> are you on studio right now?
[02:19] <holstein> tinman: i can be..
[02:21] <holstein> i'll boot up stock ubuntustudio and have a look
[02:22] <holstein> never had to mess with swapiness for proaudio...
[02:22] <tinman> yeah i found it your right. i was looking in /etc/sysctl.conf and /etc/sysctl.d
[02:23] <tinman> and yes. in studio the default level is supposed to be 10, it's been reset to 60 as i thought
[02:23] <holstein> tinman: my swapiness in stock ubuntustduio is 60
[02:23] <holstein> tinman: that would be default, out of the box, stock.. no changes
[02:24] <holstein> tinman: there is not benefit to it really for what you are talking about
[02:24] <holstein> tinman: there is another issue going on..
[02:24] <holstein> tinman: feel free to set it to what you like to exeriment
[02:25] <holstein> *experiment
[07:15] <studio-user364> hi
[07:15] <studio-user364> i need help
[07:15] <studio-user364> who is can help me
[07:15] <studio-user364> ?
[07:15] <studio-user364> i want install ubuntu studio inside windows 7
[07:15] <studio-user364> how can do it ?
[07:16] <Unit193> You generally install alongside Windows 7, unless you want a VM.
[07:16] <studio-user364> not vm
[07:17] <Unit193> !dualboot
[07:17] <studio-user364> yes dual boot
[07:18] <studio-user364> thnx bro
[07:18] <Unit193> Sure thing.
[07:18] <studio-user364> :)
[07:18]  * tinman bows to hostien
[07:19] <tinman> on this rig, the swappiness change had absolutly no effect
[07:19] <tinman> kernel knows whats best
[14:41] <andreas__> jack will not start :( first steps in u.-studio)
[14:43] <zequence> !proaudio
[14:43] <zequence> andreas__: ^
[14:44] <zequence> andreas__: Specifically https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro#UbuntuStudio.2BAC8-ProAudioIntro.2BAC8-1204.Jack_-_The_Pro_Audio_Sound_System
[14:49] <aloiece-hybrid> hei folks, quick question. Anyone got any experience with linuxsampler on 12.4?
[14:49] <aloiece-hybrid> I need to find a sampler. something that will let me create sampler instrus myself by loading samples into it and assigning them to notes, etc
[17:10] <aloiece> hello, I tried to ask a question earlier but got disconnected then. Anyway, here we go again
[17:10] <aloiece> Does anyone have any experiecen with linuxsampler they'd like to share?
[17:12] <aloiece> I need a sampler to create my own samples (load recordings into it and assign to notes etc..)
[17:20] <zequence> aloiece: did you get a hold of linux-sampler?
[17:20] <zequence> you can create your own instruments with one of the gui tools, qsampler and jsampler, I think they are called
[17:21] <zequence> the actual linux-sampler is not available in the repos as it's not regarded as free code (GPL with an addtional restriction)
[17:21] <zequence> but, you can either compile it yourself, or get it from a PPA. I think kxstudio has it
[17:25] <aloiece> no I haven't got linux-sampler. what or who is kxstudio? I'll give qsampler and/or jsampler a try
[17:25] <aloiece> thanks for that!
[17:26] <aloiece> sicne we're at it though. the following situaiton:  want to hook up my midi controller keyboard to ubuntustudio and get a normal piano sound out of it, in other words, a nice sampled piano. somehow I'm sstruggling though. some of the instruments won't connect (no alsa connection port available)  and the ones that do I don't get sound
[17:27] <aloiece> Any easy solution for that?
[17:28] <zequence> aloiece: Sure you are doing the right connections?
[17:28] <zequence> aloiece: qjackctl -> Connect - > Alsa
[17:28] <zequence> You'll find all ALSA midi devices there
[17:29] <zequence> aloiece: it's a usb midi keyboard, am I right?
[17:29] <zequence> aloiece: Hexter is an easy one
[17:29] <zequence> good for testing at the very least
[17:29] <zequence> it's a virtual instrument
[17:29] <aloiece> hm, hexter doesn't load
[17:30] <zequence> aloiece: How are you starting it?
[17:30] <zequence> is jack running?
[17:30] <zequence> make sure jack is running first. It only works with jack
[17:30] <aloiece> ok I see
[17:31] <zequence> ALSA midi is running all the time
[17:31] <zequence> but, not jack audio (which uses ALSA audio backend by default)
[17:33] <aloiece> oh yea I remember trying that
[17:33] <aloiece> that worked
[17:33] <aloiece> the sound worked
[17:33] <aloiece> but there aren't any useful piano samples
[17:33] <zequence> Most of the pro audio applications either only work with jack, or work best with jac
[17:33] <zequence> no, but now you know it works
[17:34] <aloiece> (and I have a few questions about jack as well, or should I go to a different channel for that?)
[17:34] <aloiece> yea
[17:34] <aloiece> ok
[17:34] <aloiece> thanks =). so jack needs to be runnind already.
[17:34] <aloiece> how is it with rosegarden then?
[17:35] <zequence> aloiece: http://rytmenpinne.wordpress.com/salamander-grandpiano/
[17:35] <zequence> Yes, you always start jack first
[17:35] <zequence> It's not optimal, but that's how things are right now
[17:35] <aloiece> mhm I see
[17:35] <zequence> rytmenpinne created two sample sets that are pretty cool. piano and drums, both for linux-sampler
[17:36] <aloiece> right so I cannot run them off anything else like qsampler or jsampler?
[17:37] <aloiece> aha
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[17:37] <aloiece> sorry, wrong copy
[17:37] <aloiece> what wanted to say is. q sampler is a linuxsampler qt GUI interface
[17:39] <zequence> Yes
[17:40] <zequence> both qsampler and jsampler are gui interfaces for linuxsampler
[17:40] <zequence> aloiece: Which release are you on?
[17:40] <aloiece> 12.4
[17:41] <zequence> aloiece: You can find linuxsampler here https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-team/+archive/ppa/+packages?batch=75&memo=300&start=300
[17:41] <zequence> or you add the ppa, and install from there
[17:41] <aloiece> right, is that the linuxsampler with the "commercial exception" ? as it says on their website. or is that the launchpd packagefor one of the others(qsampler or jasampler..)?
[17:42] <zequence> no, that's linuxsampler, not qsampler or jsampler
[17:42] <zequence> if it says linuxsampler, it's linuxsampler
[17:42] <aloiece> ok. thanks for all your help!
[17:42] <zequence> aloiece: If you want to install only linuxssampler, probably the easiest way is to add the ppa, install linuxsampler, then remove the PPA
[17:43] <aloiece> this is only the 2nd time or so I'm using IRC
[17:43] <zequence> aloiece: Like this...
[17:43] <aloiece> I'll probably try and stick with qsampler first, sort of out of principle GPL
[17:44] <zequence> aloiece: It doesn't work without linuxsampler ;)
[17:44] <aloiece> aha!
[17:44] <zequence> it's just the gui for it
[17:44] <aloiece> aha!
[17:44] <zequence> all of the tools around linuxsampler are free, except the actual sampler
[17:44] <aloiece> so much i have to learn
[17:45] <zequence> the exception is in the way that "you are not allowed to include this software in your commercial hardware" type of thing
[17:45] <zequence> not a big thing
[17:45] <aloiece> mhm
[17:46] <aloiece> that's the extra bit in there. so otherwise one would be allowed to use it in their commercial hardware?
[17:46] <aloiece> (how do I write just to you?)
[17:52] <zequence> aloiece: I'd rather just talk on channel, if you don't mind :)
[17:53] <aloiece> o yea cool
[17:53] <aloiece> just thought I don't want to bother other people with stuff you've decided to help me with
[17:54] <aloiece> so is it alright if i shoot 3 or 4 other questions at you? or anyone who feels like helping a rather novice?
[17:58] <zequence> aloiece: Yeah, whoever is here and can help you will answer
[18:00] <aloiece> brilliant! I'm jsut being careful here not to take any help for granted! Number 1: I've searched for successful builds and selected the 12.4(precise) one. now. how do I add the ppa? I usually just copy and past commands to add ppas but I'm nut quite aware of what to do exactly.. This build here seems to be the one I'd be going for (right?) https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-team/+archive/ppa/+build/3774252
[18:01] <aloiece> how do I add it and apt-get it?
[18:02] <zequence> aloiece: This is the page for the ppa https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-team/+archive/ppa
[18:03] <zequence> aloiece: I would suggest doing this..
[18:03] <aloiece> listening
[18:03] <zequence> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kxstudio-team/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install linuxsampler
[18:03] <zequence> make sure you get all the linuxssampler packages installed, if not, install those too
[18:04] <zequence> i.e. linuxsampler-lv2, etc
[18:04] <zequence> then, remove the PPA: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/<ppa-name-here>
[18:05] <zequence> and update your list of installable packages again: sudo apt-get update
[18:05] <aloiece> and the name is kxstudio-team-ppa
[18:05] <zequence> the file itself may have a different name
[18:05] <zequence> I don't know. I don't usually add that PPA myself
[18:06] <aloiece> mhm, how do I find out the name of the file?
[18:06] <zequence> not hard to miss. It's in that folder anyway
[18:06] <aloiece> oki
[18:06] <zequence> use the TAB key to autocomplete
[18:06] <zequence> if you write /etc/apt/sources/list.d/ and push TAB a couple of times, you get suggestions of what is in there
[18:07] <zequence> always use the TAB key when writing paths - to save you the trouble of writing the full path, as well as for the sake for error checking
[18:09] <aloiece> yup
[18:09] <aloiece> ok so the only things related to linuxsampler seem to be the ppas with the names
[18:10] <aloiece> kxstudio-team-ppa-precise.list
[18:10] <aloiece> kxstudio-team-ppa-precise.list.save
[18:10] <aloiece> so I'll remove those two right?
[18:10] <aloiece> (also why is it smart to remove them?)
[18:18] <zequence> aloiece: If you don't remove them, you'll be installing kxstudio applications instead of Ubuntu Studio ones
[18:18] <zequence> It's safer you only install the one app you want to begin with
[18:18] <zequence> Later, if you like, you could add the full PPA. You get things like ardour3
[18:18] <zequence> but, it changes the system somewhat, and it wouldn't be fair to keep calling it Ubuntu Studio
[18:19] <aloiece> mhm. but I'm using ardour3 already, just downloaded it form the website
[18:19] <zequence> that works too
[18:20] <aloiece> mhm
[18:20] <aloiece> so any other ppa I'm adding I should remove it again?
[18:21] <zequence> aloiece: No, but since you seem to be new at this, I'd like to spare you of doing too many changes at once
[18:21] <zequence> you are free to do what you want, of course
[18:21] <aloiece> that is very considerate thinking of you
[18:21] <aloiece> thanks
[18:22] <zequence> adding a PPA usually means that whatever packages are in that PPA will override the ones on your system
[18:22] <aloiece> ok seem to be done with that
[18:22] <zequence> good luck beyond that. I don't have a lot of experience with those tools
[18:22] <zequence> aloiece: Check out #opensourcemusicians
[18:22] <zequence> you might even find rytmenpinne himself on there
[18:23] <aloiece> that sounds lioke my kind of channel =) thanks
[18:23] <aloiece> I've got a jack related question
[18:23] <aloiece> as well
[18:25] <aloiece> sometimes it gives me loads of xruns. why is that? one day I was recording a live show (just a stereo feed from the desk straight into the minijack input socket of my laptop and all worked smooth and fine
[18:25] <aloiece> two days ago, I'm trying to record via my appogee interface just one channel. and i ahve xruns all the time
[18:26] <zequence> aloiece: Depends on the sauce
[18:27] <zequence> which kernel you are running, what your settings are, which device you are using, etc, etc
[18:27] <aloiece> or just now. I'm running jack bu tI'm not using any audio applicatin or anything. I'm only doing IRC
[18:27] <aloiece> still 140 xruns
[18:27] <zequence> what's your buffer setting?
[18:28] <aloiece> 128, very low but changing it to really high doesn't make a difference, stil getiing xruns
[18:28] <aloiece> and I'm running on an intel i7
[18:28] <aloiece> 8gbram
[18:29] <aloiece> what's the command line to check the kernel number?
[18:29] <aloiece> (whichever one the lates lowlatency kernel for 12.4 is
[18:29] <zequence> aloiece: uname -r
[18:30] <zequence> just make sure it's lowlatency to begin with
[18:30] <aloiece> 3.2.0-54-lowlatency
[18:30] <aloiece> is the one
[18:31] <zequence> aloiece: You had no xruns with that device before?
[18:31] <zequence> usb?
[18:31] <aloiece> sometimes I do, othertimes I don't
[18:31] <zequence> Could be the choice of usb port
[18:32] <zequence> in which case it would be related to IRQ
[18:32] <aloiece> oh with the apogee, I think I've always had xruns
[18:32] <zequence> right, so it's device specific
[18:32] <zequence> it's something to do with the hardware
[18:32] <zequence> try on another machine. use the live DVD
[18:33] <zequence> to rule out it's your computer that does it
[18:33] <aloiece> mhm
[18:33] <aloiece> I'll have to do that, ok
[18:33] <aloiece> can't do it right now but I'll give it a shot
[18:33] <aloiece> are there any default settings on jack that I should use to keep things steady?
[18:34] <aloiece> (or what bout right now? it's giving me xruns now even though I'm running it on the internal soundcard)
[18:44] <zequence> That's something you need to test, and find out
[18:44] <zequence> 256 should be ok
[18:45] <aloiece> I mean, xruns really should hardly ever happen, right?
[18:46] <aloiece> it screws up the sound
[18:46] <zequence> preferably never, yes
[18:46] <zequence> not all xruns are audible
[18:46] <aloiece> true
[18:46] <aloiece> hav enoticed that
[18:54] <aloiece> the transport bar on jack is supposed to be linked to those on ardour and other applications with a transport function
[18:54] <aloiece> however, mine's not
[18:55] <aloiece> hasn't ever been. it just lies there in the little qjacktrl window doing nothing
[18:59] <zequence> aloiece: I recommend hanging out on #jack and #ardour on those issues
[19:00] <aloiece> cool thanks! for some reason I'm banned from #ardour. I've never asked anything on there. just logged on a few times
[19:00] <aloiece> hm.
[19:00] <aloiece> can I get unbanned?!
[19:05] <zequence> aloiece: las is the main ardour dev, but I don't know if he handles the channel
[19:05] <zequence> aloiece: you can find him on #jack as well
[19:23] <aloiece> yap have found him =)
[21:25] <gianluca_> hello?
[21:26] <zequence> gianluca_: Hi
[21:31] <gianluca_> hi :D
[21:31] <gianluca_> how does this work? I'm connected with ubuntu irc and even the studio one?
[21:35] <zequence> gianluca_: This is the Ubuntu Studio user channel
[21:36] <zequence> you can be connected to multiple channels at the same time
[21:36] <zequence> These channels are withing irc.freenode.net
[21:36] <zequence> There are other servers too, and you can connect to multiple servers as well
[21:36] <zequence> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/IRC
[21:41] <gianluca_> can you help me if I explain a little problem?
[21:44] <gianluca_> I can't hear system sound and even the icon bar doesn't work, I can hear youtube videos though (Ubuntu studio 13.10 brand new installation from format)
[22:17] <MultiMuse> Just upgraded from Ustudio 12.04 LTS to 13.10 and running the bundled Firefox 24.0... Get appropriate plugin for Adobe Flash always fails to "find appropriate plugin". What's the proper/preferred method?
[22:17] <MultiMuse> Isn't Flash Player bundled with Studio 13.10 desktop?
[22:19] <MultiMuse> Do I use Software Center and search for Adobe Flash, or just Flash Player, to get it downloaded & installed? Or is there a better method? Maybe from within Firefox menu Tools, Addons?
[22:27] <gianluca_> !sound