[00:42] <mapito> hi folks..i made a file +i and now i cant rm it? ive done chattr -i
[01:37] <holstein> mapito: sudo didnt rm it?
[01:38] <mapito> Nope said perm denied even tho i did chattr -i
[01:38] <mapito> i rebooted and i culd
[01:38] <mapito> but i dont know why i couldnt before?
[01:38] <holstein> mapito: paste the rm command and the error to pastebin
[01:38] <mapito> 2sec
[01:39] <mapito> damnit i cant i closed the putty sorry ;( i did rm -rf authorized_keys
[01:39] <mapito> after chattr -i
[01:39] <mapito> and just perm denied;/
[01:39] <holstein> mapito: you run "sudo" before, to run that command as root
[01:39] <holstein> !sudo
[01:41] <mapito> ah yea i was as root sorry should have said
[01:42] <holstein> mapito: i would need to see the command you ran, and the error.. if you are root, you should have permission to either rm, or fix the file you broke
[01:43] <mapito> ya i know and it worked once rebooted
[01:43] <mapito> i get that +i stopped me..but i did -i after
[01:43] <mapito> :)
[01:51] <mapito> hmm
[01:51] <mapito> i installed squid from source how can i kill the process or restat it
[01:56] <holstein> !info squid
[01:57] <holstein> mapito: i would try the one from the repos, or refer to the man page
[01:57] <mapito> ok:) thanks
[01:57] <mapito> although now ive installed it..im never too sure gow to remove when installed from souce
[01:57] <mapito> besides knowing what went where?
[01:58] <holstein> mapito: the method you used, and documentation you used will dictate how it was installed and how it should be removed..
[01:58] <mapito> it said how to install i didnt see a mention of remove:D
[01:58] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Squid should help, which ever version you use
[01:59] <mapito> do you usw squid?
[01:59] <mapito> *use
[01:59] <holstein> mapito: no
[02:36] <gdos> i get the following error when trying to remove the package 'musica' - http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6280547/
[05:15] <xubuntu360> im having problems installing adobe flash
[05:16] <nukke> have you tried: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[05:21] <nukke> I'm having some problems with fonts outside of Xfce. (running Xubuntu 13.10 64-bit)
[05:22] <nukke> I'm guessing it's aliasing problems. for example, every font looks nice when I'm using Xfce, but on other DEs, certain fonts look extremely blurry regardless of size.
[05:22] <nukke> I've noticed that it's happening with ttf fots.
[05:23] <soad> can someone help me fix my problem with installing flash. could use some help so i can use youtube and stuff. any help would be great
[05:24] <nukke> have you tried: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer ?
[05:25] <soad> nope
[05:25] <nukke> try running that inside your terminal.
[05:25] <soad> ok
[06:08] <audrey> sudo aptitude --purge reinstall linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils linux-image-`uname -r` linux-ubuntu-modules-`uname -r` libasound2
[07:51] <phasip> So, I upgraded to xubuntu 13.10 but the update crashed in the middle. Now my system works quite well but some stuff is weird eg eclipse does not seem to have jdt installed (even though it is) and if I click the speaker icon in the toolbar the popup that comes is empty. I also have problems with the latest kernel (black screen) but this seems to be a common problem with my laptop model.
[07:52] <Unit193> Well, did you  sudo dpkg --configure -a  after booting back up?  Sound thing is a known issue.
[07:52] <phasip> I have tried apt-get -f install , dpkg --configure -a , dpkg-reconfigure -a -f
[07:52] <Unit193> Alrighty.
[07:53] <phasip> Ah, if sound is a known issue I guess it's a eclipse problem instead. I have tried reinstalling and removing my configs but still remains.
[07:54] <Unit193> Well, the indicator sound icon is, yes.
[07:55] <phasip> Yep, then I know where to put my efforts
[07:55] <Unit193> And seems you've done the exact thing I was going to recommend for eclipse, too.  Can't help much there, haven't used it.
[07:56] <Unit193> Could take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Saucy/Gtk3Indicators - bug 1238997 - bug 1208204
[07:59] <phasip> Thanks Unit193!
[07:59] <Unit193> Sure.
[10:18] <Hurga> Hallo... quick question which I didn't find answered on the web... is there a way to make the window decorations (frame) more accessible for mouse gripping? I have about 1 pixel with to aim for if I want to pull a window bigger and that's quite cumbersome.
[10:20] <knome> Hurga, check outhttp://xubuntu.org/news/window-resizing-in-xubuntu-and-xfce/
[10:20] <knome> Hurga, that is, http://xubuntu.org/news/window-resizing-in-xubuntu-and-xfce/
[10:26] <Hurga> knome: Excellent, not all of these are usable for me but some are. Thanks!
[10:27] <knome> np
[10:41] <m3kk> Ive got some strange error/crashes on my system. i did one thing: installed themes in /usr/share/themes while in thunar with root-rights (sudo thunar) can this creates issuues with im not a root-user while trying to use these themes etc?
[10:42] <m3kk> I also can't enable(or see/fetch) any restricted drivers without crash because of reasons
[10:50] <Hurga> knome: Can you tell me what the command for resizing is if I want to add a keyboard shortcut for it?
[10:51] <knome> Hurga, i don't think there is a command to do that i'm afraid
[10:51] <Sysi> see window manager settings
[10:52] <Hurga> knome:  In that case it seems hard to use a keyboard shortcut...  :)
[10:52] <Sysi> in keyboard tab you can set that and other shortcuts
[10:52] <bgardner> Hurga: Alt-Space, R?
[10:53] <knome> Hurga, umh, yeah, did you see the dialog?
[10:53] <Hurga> bgardner:  inside VM, doesn't work (for the same reason Alt-rightclick doesn't work)
[10:54] <Hurga> knome:  Keyboard shortcut "add", or which one?
[10:54] <bgardner> Hurga, That must depend on the VM, I just checked in mine and it works fine.
[10:55] <knome> Hurga, the website article has all the information you need
[10:56] <Hurga> knome:  The web page says "add a keyboard shortcut". I can add a keyboard shortcut for a command, right. I just don't know what the comand for resize is. The Alt-F8 default is not there.
[10:57] <knome> Hurga, nope. read it again; "which can be edited by going to the Settings Manager > Window Manager > Keyboard"
[10:57] <knome> you are in Settings Manager -> Keyboard
[10:58] <Hurga> knome:  Gotcha. Sorry, German Xubuntu here, the translations don't help :P
[12:01] <red6m__> does anyone use lastpass here? is it broken for you as well in chromium after 13.10 update?
[12:02] <bazhang> !crosspost | red6m__
[12:03] <red6m__> ;-/
[12:03] <red6m__> k
[12:34] <ngomes> is it just me or 13.10 has some bugs ?
[12:34] <ngomes> like
[12:35] <ngomes> volume control on panel cant me used but the icon is there
[12:35] <ngomes> update-manager icon wont appear
[12:35] <ngomes> so no GUI updates
[12:36] <ngomes> suspend / resume breaks network-manager disables network
[12:36] <brainwash> yes, let me link the bug reports, 1 sec
[12:36] <ngomes> ok , glad they are all known
[12:37] <brainwash> bug 1184262
[12:37] <brainwash> bug 1208204
[12:37] <brainwash> not sure about the update-notifier icon
[12:37] <ngomes> hmm not sure either
[12:37] <brainwash> the update-manager works however and pop ups a window
[12:37] <ngomes> might not have time yet for updates
[12:38] <ngomes> yeah , it pops the icon on the upper panel
[12:38] <ngomes> or whatever notification-area is
[12:38] <brainwash> a tray icon or an entry in the window list?
[12:39] <ngomes> in 13.04 on me , it would appear the tray icon first
[12:39] <ngomes> then  i click and choose what to do
[12:39] <brainwash> right, it doesn't anymore for me in 13.10
[12:40] <brainwash> maybe intended, maybe yet another bug
[12:40] <ngomes> so far it doesnt apeeared on me too
[12:40] <ngomes> yeah , might be not the time to make updates yet
[12:40] <brainwash> I'll try to find a bug report or some information on this
[12:40] <ngomes> to early to say
[12:44] <red6m__> ngomes - do u use chromium - erxtensions are also broken after 13.10 update
[12:45] <red6m__> thinking of going back to arch for better stability.
[12:45] <brainwash> really?
[12:45] <red6m__> lol:)
[12:45] <brainwash> let me launch chromium
[12:45] <red6m__> brainwash, do u use lastpass?
[12:45] <ngomes> red6m__, used to , now Google chrome
[12:46] <ngomes> i use last pass , but somehow it wont load as extension
[12:46] <ngomes> i needed to download again
[12:46] <red6m__> ngomes, see chromim console. it has these errors: chrome.extension is not available: 'extension' is not allowed for specified context type content script,  extension page, web page, etc.)
[12:46] <ngomes> gmelius loaded as extension , but last pass did not
[12:46] <red6m__> ngomes, and lastpass autofill stopped working
[12:46] <ngomes> not here
[12:47] <ngomes> hmmm
[12:47] <ngomes> i did a clean install
[12:47] <ngomes> of 13.10
[12:47] <ngomes> some configs might be lost of lastpass
[12:48] <red6m__> ngomes, lastpass loads, but doesn't autofill in chromium after 13.10.
[12:48] <red6m__> ngomes, can u check if autofill works?
[12:48] <ngomes> red6m__, isnt supposed to be a browser issue rather than a version issue ?
[12:49] <red6m__> ngomes, http://askubuntu.com/questions/360954/all-chromium-extensions-throw-errors-since-update-to-13-10
[12:49] <ngomes> im saying it works cause yesterday i logged on ebay and it autofilled and auto login , but i had to click on "sign in" on page
[12:50] <ngomes> i clikced "sign in" then it auto fiilled username and password and click login auto
[12:51] <red6m__> hmm. i'm not sure then. probably gonna use google chrome temporarily instead of chromium.
[12:52] <ngomes> i use , stable from ppa
[12:53] <ngomes> how do you pull chrome console ?
[13:03] <ngomes> brainwash, did you find some report about update-manager ?
[13:03] <ngomes> tray icon
[13:04] <xaxisx> anyone know why the keyboard and touchpad stops working on my laptop after closing my lid? it's only started happening after 13.10 and I lose all important documents open because I have to force restart to do anything.
[13:05] <brainwash> ngomes: no, haven't actually searched yet
[13:05] <ngomes> closing lid is what ? suspend to ram ?
[13:05] <brainwash> yes, by default
[13:05] <xaxisx> in power options I have it set to do nothing.
[13:06] <ngomes> so u close and keep wasting battery ?
[13:06] <brainwash> well, but xfce4-power-manager cannot override systemd's settings
[13:06] <xaxisx> not when it's plugged in
[13:06] <ngomes> ok
[13:07] <ngomes> if it cannot override , what is doing in there in first place ?
[13:07] <brainwash> xaxisx: so the power manager needs to be aware of systemd default actions, but it isn't as of now :/
[13:07] <brainwash> you can change them manually by editing the config file
[13:08] <brainwash> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1222021/comments/5
[13:08] <xaxisx> brainwash,  thanks. I'm happy there's a workaround
[13:09] <brainwash> it's something you normally fix before release, so the users won't have to mess around
[13:10] <ngomes> notification area doesnt exist no more ?
[13:10] <brainwash> it does
[13:10] <ngomes> oh i see  now
[13:11] <ngomes> was on panel / add new itens , and it was grey to add
[13:11] <ngomes> but its there , i have my xchat icon in there right now
[13:12] <ngomes> well , i wont fix any bug , just wait for the update
[13:13] <ngomes> gotta go now
[13:13] <ngomes> brainwash, thanks for the help
[13:13] <ngomes> good day for you
[13:13] <brainwash> ngomes: you're welcome :)
[13:13] <ngomes> you @ in this room ?
[13:14] <brainwash> no
[13:14] <ngomes> you should be
[13:14] <ngomes> its not the first time i came here and u are here to help
[13:15] <brainwash> you don't need op status to help people
[13:15] <ngomes> so , something has to be given to you in return :-)
[13:15] <ngomes> lol ok
[13:15] <ngomes> you right
[13:15] <ngomes> well by , see you next tim e
[13:16] <ngomes> bye*
[14:01] <vdonnefort> Hi! Do you know if I can set a window to fullscreen when I move it to the upper of my screen?
[14:05] <GridCube> ?
[14:05] <GridCube> vdonnefort, what?
[14:07] <vdonnefort> When I move a window to the upper, the left or the right of my screen, the window is resized to take half size of the screen. I'd like to change this behaviour
[14:09] <brainwash> appears to be hardcoded
[14:10] <vdonnefort> this is the magnetic behaviour
[14:10] <vdonnefort> brainwash: arf, ok :)
[14:14] <vdonnefort> brainwash: thx
[14:14] <vdonnefort> !
[14:16] <xabster> Anything I should know before doing a dist-upgrade from 13.04?
[14:17] <cfhowlett> xabster, ask yourself why you're upgrading to a 6 month lifecycle springs to mind ...
[14:18] <xabster> for science
[14:19] <cfhowlett> xabster, *morgan freeman voice* ... Good luck.
[14:19] <xabster> wanna put odds on whether or not it breaks?
[14:20] <cfhowlett> xabster, under the current arrangement, the non-LTS releases are beta in all but name.  I say $24.12 it breaks your system.
[14:23] <GridCube> !nothelping | cfhowlett
[14:25] <cfhowlett> GridCube, my LTS bias got hold of me ....
[14:26] <GridCube> cfhowlett, however 13.10 is a realease, and people has right to install it and is encouraged to. Please if you are not willing to help people out just dont.
[14:26] <cfhowlett> GridCube, OK
[14:26] <GridCube> :)
[14:47] <xubuntu455> I have a Hp 2000 notebook 64 bit. I just installed xubuntu on it.  How can I manage to get skype? Suggestion?
[14:48] <TheSheep> !skype | xubuntu455
[14:48] <cfhowlett> TheSheep, doesn't work from China ...
[14:49] <cfhowlett> :(
[14:50] <xubuntu455> thank you
[14:53] <TheSheep> cfhowlett: that's a bug in China, not in Ubuntu
[15:42] <ngomes> hello again
[15:42] <ngomes> brainwash, u there
[15:44] <ngomes> found a bug while trying to install printer on xfce destkop "add printer" on system settings
[15:44] <ngomes> detected printer , choose gutenprint driver and it freezes the installer
[16:20] <xubuntu458> hi, is there someone out there?
[16:21] <GridCube> !someone
[16:21] <xubuntu458> I have a problem with Lightdm...
[16:21] <xubuntu458> I can't log in...
[16:21] <GridCube> it sends you back to the login manager?
[16:22] <xubuntu458> yes!
[16:22] <GridCube> do this
[16:22] <xubuntu458> i tried to activate
[16:23] <xubuntu458> numlockx,
[16:23] <GridCube> log in as a guest, press alt-f2 and type: gksu thunar, go to your default home folder, press ctrl-h to see the hidden files. delete the filesnamed .Xauthority and .ICEauthority, log off and log back as your main user
[16:23] <xubuntu458> and I added it to /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf,
[16:23] <GridCube> oh
[16:23] <xubuntu458> like this website https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/first
[16:24] <GridCube> well try what i said anyway
[16:25] <xubuntu458> ok. I'll try and then I'll tell you. Thanks a lot
[16:29] <xabster> !ekiga
[16:33] <JamesRock7> thanks a lot! I could enter, but the nvidia driver doesn't work properly
[16:33] <JamesRock7> there is no transparences
[16:35] <JamesRock7> which is the file that I need to delete to reset the visual settings?
[16:42] <JamesRock7> is there any solution?
[16:42] <JamesRock7> I deleted .ICEauthority and .Xauthority, and I could log in, but I couldn't see transparences...
[16:43] <JamesRock7> I moved .Xdefaults but it's no use
[16:43] <JamesRock7> I use the nvidia-319 privative driver...
[17:20] <dev|meta> Hi folks, got a Dell Vostro 3750 stuck on boot, it's stopping at the blue Xubuntu screen (with the rotating white circle), done the usual google thing not found much describing the issue, first steps?
[17:27] <dev|meta> managed to switch to a virtual terminal and cat the logs, turns out lightdm isn't starting automatically "sudo service lightdm start" gets me a login screen, hmm
[17:27] <dev|meta> progress of a sort
[17:28] <dev|meta> rebooted and now it works, nice
[18:17] <xubuntu524> hello every body
[18:34] <m3kk> I also can't enable(or see/fetch) any restricted drivers without crash because of reasons
[18:37] <xubuntu850> hello
[18:38] <xubuntu850> update ubuntu13.10 very bug not possible to boot after !
[18:39] <xubuntu850> allo ?
[18:40] <xubuntu850> there someone?
[18:42] <GridCube> !patience | xubuntu850
[18:42] <m3kk> xubuntu850, hi
[18:42] <GridCube> !details | xubuntu850
[18:42] <m3kk> xubuntu850, very bug?
[18:42] <GridCube> m3kk, his native language might not be english, please have patience with him
[18:43] <m3kk> GridCube, offcourse, i just asked for details :)
[18:43] <xubuntu850> ok moment i translate, because i speek french
[18:44] <m3kk> xubuntu850, would you lose to much to reinstall completely to try?
[18:45] <xubuntu850> ok I xunbuntu 13.04 and I did the last update that offers ubuntu or 13.10 version since I did the install and I rebooted, nothing more focntionne, a ja'i black screen and there is nothing!
[18:46] <David-A> xubuntu850: (there is a french speaking channel #ubuntu-fr currently with 180 users)
[18:47] <xubuntu850> sorry, ok I xunbuntu 13.04 and I did the last update that offers ubuntu or 13.10 version since I did the install and I rebooted, nothing to work, I have a black screen and there is nothing!
[18:48] <David-A> xubuntu850: it is hard to tell what is wrong and how to fix it. maybe the suggestion above to re-install 13.10 is the easiest alternative.
[18:49] <m3kk> To rule determin if its the update that breaks something or 13.10 itself you should consider re-install from scratch..don't forget to backup
[18:49] <m3kk> "to rule determin" i forgot how to english
[18:51] <xubuntu850> I did file verification system, as well as everything about the installation, but he found nothing, I'm not the only one apparently, because other people have the same problem on the forum! so there is a good goal for xubuntu starts from the menu!
[18:51] <m3kk> xubuntu850, i had no such issues really sorry.
[18:53] <xubuntu850> I do not know how do you reinstall the 13.10 version because I am a beginner in linux
[18:54] <xubuntu850> and I do not know how do you uninstall the 13.10 version to return to the previous version, until the problem is corrected!
[18:55] <David-A> xubuntu850: download the .iso file for xubuntu and burn it to a dvd-disk. then boot off that dvd and start an installation. (you can also use an usb-memory stick, there are web pages with instructions)
[18:55] <xubuntu850> i not have dvd, i update online !
[18:56] <m3kk> xubuntu850, download 13.10 and create a bootabble USB.. do you have one? i can strongly recommend one
[18:56] <xubuntu850> now is not fonction !
[18:56] <m3kk> xubuntu850, have another computer?
[18:56] <xubuntu850> no
[18:56] <m3kk> xubuntu850, from where do you sit now?
[18:56] <xubuntu850> just my pc
[18:57] <m3kk> ...
[18:57] <m3kk> xubuntu850, how do you connect to irc like right now?
[18:57] <xubuntu850> i boot with last version 13.04 xubuntu
[18:58] <David-A> xubuntu850: you can download the xubuntu 13.04 .iso or the xubuntu 13.10 .iso on a windows pc. then use a program to create a usb-live-system.
[18:58] <xubuntu850> i choice diffent version with menu
[18:58] <m3kk> xubuntu850, ah, ok.. so it does boot?
[18:59] <xubuntu850> no sorry, i not interessed
[18:59] <xubuntu850> moment
[19:00] <xubuntu850> I do not want to reinstall everything, I just want to uninstall the update back to the old version that worked very well and I used this very moment
[19:01] <m3kk> xubuntu850, you could reinstall but leave /home intact so you wont lose files in there
[19:02] <m3kk> xubuntu850, i belive you must reinstall 13.04 anyway .. i don't think there is a way to revert
[19:02] <xubuntu850> how can I do from the boot menu?
[19:03] <xubuntu850> super !
[19:03] <xubuntu850> very shit 13.10
[19:03] <m3kk> works fine here
[19:03] <xubuntu850> thanks good day
[19:04] <m3kk> You can boot 13.04 fine right? you chose old 13.04 from menu yes?
[19:04] <xubuntu850> yes
[19:05] <m3kk> Do you have a USBkey?
[19:05] <xubuntu850> but I have to choose in the troubleshooting menu, and I wanted to make ca normally as before it boot normally, in fact there is a purpose of the boot
[19:06] <xubuntu850> bye thank you so meuch
[19:06] <GridCube> xubuntu850, in the grub menu choose a previous linux version and boot from an old kernel
[19:07] <m3kk> ragequit
[19:07] <xubuntu850> what is grub ?
[19:08] <Unit193> Did you try nomodeset?
[19:08] <xubuntu850> ? i do no
[19:08] <Unit193> !nomodeset
[19:08] <xubuntu850> what is nomodeset
[19:09] <m3kk> xubuntu850, 1. BOOT FUNCTIONAL 13.04 2. download 13.10/13.04 ISO from xubuntu.org > 3. Create a bootable USB /CD > 4. Boot it. > 5. Resintall 13.10/13.04 > 6. ???? > 7. Profit
[19:10] <xubuntu850> ok thank you
[19:10] <xubuntu850> i see
[19:13] <nikos> hi! after upgrade to 13.10 nuveaoy and xorg freeze..has someone this prb?
[19:18] <nikos_x> hi! after upgrade to 13.10 nouveaou driver and xorg freeze..has everyone this prb?
[19:20] <quantals> hello everyone
[19:21] <quantals> Does anyone play Path of Exile aka POE ?
[19:22] <fent> hi
[19:23] <fent> in need of some help
[19:23] <fent> need to remove xubuntu from a dual boot where it is installed on same partition as Windows
[19:26] <v1adimir> fent: to restore the Windows bootloader, you can always boot from the Windows setup dvd/usb and load the console and run the 2 recovery commands:
[19:26]  * v1adimir looks for them
[19:27] <v1adimir> fent: 'bootrec /fixMBR', 'bootrec /fixBoot' http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-system/cannot-fix-mrb-or-fix-boot-commands-do-not-work/08e7d070-08be-4bdc-a928-a29d639444fd
[19:28] <v1adimir> .. http://www.tomshardware.com/news/win7-windows-7-mbr,10036.html
[19:29] <cascarot> hi all!! xubuntu 12.10 running on my laptop
[19:30] <cascarot> totally migrated from windows to linux
[19:30] <v1adimir> more of the same: http://kb.acronis.com/content/1507 && http://www.ghacks.net/2010/06/05/get-the-recovery-console-back-in-windows-7/
[19:30] <v1adimir> fent ^^
[19:31] <fent> vladimir are these in windows or xubuntu environment?
[19:32] <v1adimir> fent: just check the instructions..:) this is when booting from a Windows dvd/usb, to restore Windows
[19:32] <fent> the windows dvd/usb you mention is that the xubuntu dvd or my windows disc?
[19:33] <v1adimir> it will overwrite, or actually get rid of/bypass grub/grub2 - what it does it restore the Windows bootloader in MBR (all of your Windows and Linux files will remain intact, only the computer will boot directly to Windows)
[19:34] <v1adimir> fent: the Windows disk
[19:34] <fent> i want to get rid of xubuntu.  I can boot xindow when i select it at the boot menu
[19:34] <m3kk> xindow
[19:35] <v1adimir> fent: just make sure that you move/backup/save any-and-all Linux file that you want to keep.. it's not so simple to mount Linux partitions from Windows, afterwards (there are programs for it, but it's not 100% straightforward)
[19:36] <m3kk> just boot into linux, save what you want then erase the crap out of it and format disk then rebuild MBR from windows-disk
[19:36] <v1adimir> fent: at the moment, when you boot your computer, you are presented with the grub2 bootloader menu (and not the Windows one), right??
[19:36] <m3kk> Or booting in that menu if you have win8
[19:36] <v1adimir> m3kk: there is NO need to format any disk, that's what I'm talking about.
[19:36] <m3kk> vladimir why not?
[19:37] <v1adimir> it's absolutely NOT necessary to format.. why would you want to do that?
[19:37] <fent> i get a black screen with white writing with xubuntu, two more options for linux and windows 7
[19:37] <m3kk> to make it readable format for windows
[19:37] <fent> i can scroll down and select windows and will boot to my log in screen
[19:37] <v1adimir> m3kk: I'm not sure that you know exactly what you're talking about..:)
[19:38] <v1adimir> fent: try and open up those URL links I gave you, it's very simple and very well explained - how to get Windows to boot-up normally, without Xubuntu.
[19:38] <m3kk> v1adimir, ext4 wont show up for me in windows .. if he installed xubuntu on a partition with ext4 that why not format easy peasy and rebuild MBR?
[19:38] <m3kk> v1adimir, i tought he wanted to get rid of linux completely
[19:39] <v1adimir> m3kk: he said that he is dual-booting currently; I don't think that Windows would be installed on a Linux partition - in this case.
[19:39] <v1adimir> generally, when dual-booting, Windows sits in its own NTFS partition
[19:39] <m3kk> v1adimir, sorry was not here with the initial question
[19:40] <v1adimir> :)
[19:40] <m3kk> v1adimir, when i dual-booted i created a ext4 partition and installed linux on that
[19:42] <m3kk> Guessed he had done the same, wanted to get rid of linux completly so format that disk ( to wipe out linux) and then rebuild MBR to get rid of grub. am i just completly crazy here?
[19:42] <v1adimir> fent: taking into account what m3kk is talking about: once you have restored the Windows bootloader - and Windows starts-up when you turn on your PC - you can right-click My Computer and then go to 'Manage' and from there you will be able to delete your Linux partition(s) and make a new primary, or logical partition and format it as NTFS and then you can join it to your existing Windows partition (by u
[19:42] <v1adimir> sing a partition program)
[19:43] <v1adimir> ^^ right-click, manage and then 'disk management'
[19:43] <v1adimir> .. it's (very) simple, you just have to be careful that you know what you're doing :)) measure twice, cut once =)
[19:44] <m3kk> So i was not bat shit crazy?
[19:44] <v1adimir> m3kk: 50-50 :))
[19:44] <m3kk> Im fairly new to this actually but i love to learn. v1adimir
[19:45] <v1adimir> ofc., & I hope I'm helping..:)
[19:45] <m3kk> very much!
[19:46] <fent> as i said xubuntu is installed in the windows partition
[19:46] <fent> im creating a windows recovery disc at the moment
[19:47] <v1adimir> generally, just try to have a working OS - Windows in this case - before doing any partition management
[19:47] <m3kk> Did he use "windows installer" cant remember its name
[19:47] <m3kk> :(
[19:47] <v1adimir> oh, it looks like!..
[19:48] <v1adimir> :-0
[19:48] <m3kk> In that case: isnt it possible to just remove like any other application from control-panel?
[19:48] <m3kk> And perhaps you need to rebuuild MBR but im not sure
[19:49] <v1adimir> fent: You've used Wubi, to install Xubuntu? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer
[19:49] <v1adimir> (I have no experience with this, 0, so can't help in this case :))
[19:53] <fent> no i installed from usb
[19:54] <v1adimir> .. looks pretty simple, when using WUBI: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[19:58] <fent> now wishing i had used WUBI
[20:01] <v1adimir> fent: 'BootRec /fixmbr' and 'BootRec /fixboot' http://www.ghacks.net/2010/06/05/get-the-recovery-console-back-in-windows-7/ is all you need; if that's your setup.
[20:02] <v1adimir> (i'm not sure where's the confusion :))
[20:04] <nukke> 8wow, that China smog article is scary.
[20:05] <nukke> "“You can’t see your own fingers in front of you,” Harbin’s official news site noted." :O
[20:05] <bazhang> thats not on topic here
[20:05] <nukke> note to self: don't go to northern China.
[20:05] <fent> vladimir thanks for your help
[20:05] <fent> trying a few things and have saved your links
[20:07] <v1adimir> fent: np, go for a second opinion also, pls..:)
[20:09] <fent> will do
[20:13] <yolateng0> hello, i try Xubuntu 13.04 .  is there cedarview-graphics-drivers repository for GMA3600 intel N2600?
[20:17] <fent> vladimir sent you a pm
[20:56] <zbrkxbr> hi guys I have a docky issue the output of docky commanis here http://paste.ubuntu.com/6285257/
[20:57] <zbrkxbr> commands*
[21:01] <zbrkxbr> so quiet :(
[21:03]  * David-A sitting absolutely still with quiet breaths
[21:03] <zbrkxbr> David-A how did you do that
[21:04] <zbrkxbr>  * David-A sitting absolutely still with quiet breaths
[21:04] <David-A> not a move, not a sound
[21:04] <onla_> if I have the ubuntu unity on gnome.. how can I see the classical menu items ?
[21:04] <zbrkxbr> ok I almost reach to nirvana at that moment :)b
[21:05] <zbrkxbr> onla it seems a bad combination with unity and gnome shell
[21:06] <zbrkxbr> I mean gnome shell is uses all of the screen :S
[21:06] <Unit193> onla_: I think you're looking for #ubuntu
[21:06] <onla_> can't join there
[21:06] <David-A> onla_: that is actually a ubuntu question, not xubuntu
[21:06] <Unit193> zbrkxbr: The /me command.
[21:06] <onla_> my friend is a new in ubuntu and he has the ubuntu unity but I can't help him to find synaptic package manager and stuff
[21:06] <Unit193> onla_: Still not for here, try not connecting from bshellz.
[21:06] <bekks> onla_: You have to install synaptic if you want to use it.
[21:07] <onla_> don't want to help this friend so much that I connect to #ubuntu with another irc client to ask but thanks :) I'll tell him to do it
[21:07] <zbrkxbr_> I'm back
[21:07] <onla_> hmm, thought it would be installed by default.. he found synaptic and synaptic-pkegex with syna<tab><tab> in terminal tho
[21:07]  * zbrkxbr_ almost reachs the nirvana
[21:07] <zbrkxbr_> it works :D
[21:08] <David-A> :)
[21:08] <zbrkxbr_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6285257/    David-A maybe you can help me with this
[21:08] <zbrkxbr_> it's annoyed me all of the day
[21:08] <zbrkxbr_> :S
[21:10] <David-A> zbrkxbr_: thats the docky thing in #xfce, I dont use docky. have you looked if there is a ~/.docky or ~/.conf/docky file or dir? if so, try move it away, so docky starts with a fresh conf.
[21:14]  * zbrkxbr_ sorry for party rocking 
[21:24] <xubuntu117> ok i am going to try this again.  I have a HP 2000 Notebook 64 bit that i just install xubuntu into.  I would like to download skype. Help??
[21:28] <genii> Add the partner repositories and should be good to go
[21:28] <genii> !info skype saucy-partner
[21:28] <genii> !info skype partner
[22:16] <xubuntu456> hay every one..
[22:17] <xubuntu456> i have a problem whit my audio
[22:17] <xubuntu456> it does not work
[22:25] <x-bryan_g-x> quit
[22:26] <Unit193> /quit
[22:38] <x-bryan_g-x> Hi all, new user on the Xubuntu support channel
[22:42] <x-bryan_g-x> I'm using Xubuntu Precise, does anyone know if the accounts-daemon issue has been addressed in Raring or Quantal, and if an update/fix will be pushed out to Precise users?
[22:42] <xyzone> x-bryan_g-x, which issue?
[22:42] <Unit193> Which issue is that?
[22:43] <x-bryan_g-x> It's been logged on Launchpad Bug #996791
[22:45] <x-bryan_g-x> The issue now appears to be causing problems with updating, particularly when needing to authenticate for a kernel update.
[22:45] <xyzone> strange that I don't encounter this bug
[22:47] <x-bryan_g-x> I have 2 installations (laptop & desktop) both exhibiting the same problem
[22:47] <Poisoned_Dragon> what problem?
[22:48] <xyzone> weird problem, why didn't I encounter it?
[22:48] <xyzone> maybe because I upgraded to xfce 4.10 through a ppa?
[22:48] <x-bryan_g-x> Very slow logins > 80 seconds
[22:48] <Poisoned_Dragon> hmmm
[22:49] <x-bryan_g-x> Same long delay on logout, and when I get back to the lightdm greeter, my user name isn't shown
[22:49] <xyzone> I also have getdeb ppa
[22:51] <x-bryan_g-x> I'm still on xfce 4.8, could it be fixed by upgrading to 4.10?
[22:52] <xyzone> I have no idea, but I never encountered this bug
[22:52] <bingo> Hello. I do not use bluetooth but I still have two bluetooth icons on my taskbar. Can they be removed?
[22:52] <Poisoned_Dragon> What version of Xubuntu, 12.04?
[22:53] <x-bryan_g-x> Seems to be a dbus issue, but being a relatively new Linux user, I'm not sure how to tackle it
[22:54] <xyzone> x-bryan_g-x, they say there's a fix here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1970326
[22:56] <xyzone> I hate that xubuntu is so neglected throughout on all distros
[22:56] <xyzone> I mean xfce
[22:56] <Poisoned_Dragon> I wouldn't say neglected.
[22:56] <Poisoned_Dragon> There's quite a large community around it.
[22:56] <xyzone> well, it sits way in the back of other DEs
[23:03] <x-bryan_g-x> Just been checking that thread, it mentions a ppa for x64, will it be specific or would it work on x86 also?
[23:04] <xyzone> x-bryan_g-x, not sure, isn't there an x86 version of it?
[23:04] <x-bryan_g-x> I would have thought so.
[23:11] <x-bryan_g-x> I would have also thought that an update would have been in the default repos by now
[23:11] <xyzone> i guess it doesn't affect everyone.
[23:11] <xyzone> i know i've never seen it
[23:12] <xyzone> it must be dependent on certain hardware
[23:12] <x-bryan_g-x> Yeah, that makes sense
[23:13] <xyzone> yet another reason to buy linux supportive hardware
[23:13] <xyzone> you buy ms pcs off the shelf, something's bound to fail
[23:14] <x-bryan_g-x> I bought this PC with Windows XP on it and wanted rid, I'd already downloaded the 12.04.2 .iso, so I just went ahead and installed it.
[23:15] <xyzone> yeah, but these rare bugs almost never happen on pcs that are sold as linux supported
[23:15] <xyzone> or they happen no more than windows bugs
[23:15] <xyzone> i'll never buy a windows machine again
[23:16] <x-bryan_g-x> It's rather put me off buying without knowing the full Linux hardware compatibility of a machine first
[23:17] <xyzone> best way to be sure is to buy from vendors that sell that way, but it's rare
[23:18] <x-bryan_g-x> All too rare indeed
[23:20] <x-bryan_g-x> If I bought a PC which shipped with Ubuntu, chances are I'd just switch DE and never have an issue.
[23:23] <x-bryan_g-x> Where's the place to check my machine's hardware for *NIX compatibility?
[23:25] <xyzone> http://www.linux-drivers.org/ http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/ <--a few vendors have this
[23:27] <x-bryan_g-x> Is there anywhere I could submit the output from sudo lshw to have it checked?
[23:28] <xyzone> i dont know
[23:33] <x-bryan_g-x> I did run a live session a few times before installing, but I guess that doesn't always show up every potential problem
[23:36] <xyzone> updates sometimes breaks stuff
[23:38] <x-bryan_g-x> Yeah, I noticed the current problem wasn't there until at least 4 months after installation.
[23:39] <xyzone> seems to be updates to lightdm are to blame in your case. another option might be to switch to another login manager
[23:46] <x-bryan_g-x> I'll see what I can find in Synaptic.
[23:47] <x-bryan_g-x> In the meantime, I'll see if there's any x86 ppa which has fix
[23:48] <x-bryan_g-x> Thanks for your help
[23:49] <xyzone> np, I would try slim and uninstall lightdm
[23:50] <x-bryan_g-x> I was wondering, is there anything I could try by switching to tty1 when I get to the lightdm greeter?
[23:51] <xyzone> dont know
[23:55] <x-bryan_g-x> OK. Let's see what I can do... Thanks again.