[06:10] <routelastresort> gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[06:10] <routelastresort> I'm just writing my README.md, then pull request time
[08:01] <Jujufy> marcoceppi: the bootstrap was created on u13.04 but now i'm on u13.10
[08:01] <Jujufy> should i destroy and re-bootstrap?
[08:01] <Jujufy> i think i'll try that
[08:01] <Jujufy> nothing to lose
[08:18] <routelastresort> A++++, would destroy again
[09:07] <Jujufy> ok new bootstrap created
[09:07] <Jujufy> root node allocated
[09:08] <Jujufy> juju status shows the same symptoms though; i expect it to say it failed after 10min passed
[09:09] <Jujufy> all the other nodes are off
[09:09] <Jujufy> but i expect it should say something regardless
[09:18] <Jujufy> yep
[09:19] <Jujufy> `no reachable servers'
[09:19] <Jujufy> but i also got a `...go:282 Unable to connect to environment "".'
[09:20] <Jujufy> which is strange, because several lines before it said `....go:32 opening environment "my-maas2".'
[09:32] <Jujufy> juju version => 1.16.0-saucy-amd64
[11:03] <Jujufy> hm, if i visit the webserver at /api/1.0/node-... i get the json
[11:04] <Jujufy> and it has a "status": <number>
[11:21] <Jujufy> i selected maas to manage DNS as well, maybe something will change
[11:40] <AskUbuntu> Juju/MAAS in vSphere to test OpenStack | http://askubuntu.com/q/364332
[12:05] <Jujufy> that looks just like my issue
[12:05] <Jujufy> although i'm on hardware
[12:06] <Jujufy> i'll bookmark it; hopefully an answer will appear
[14:43] <Jujufy> OK, following that AskUbuntu question I logged into the root node
[14:44] <Jujufy> but my /var/log/cloud-init-output.log is different
[14:45] <Jujufy> after a couple of ... dial tcp ... refused
[14:45] <Jujufy> it did manage to connect
[14:45] <Jujufy> and reached ... juju suppercommand.go:286 command finished
[15:56] <AskUbuntu> juju bootstrap error no default environment found | http://askubuntu.com/q/364477
[15:57] <g0twig> I want to use JuJu on Debian 7.0 but Juju is not part of debian sid anymore
[15:57] <g0twig> please give me full instructions how to let it run, I like to develop eventually charms and deploy them
[15:57] <g0twig> 32bit
[15:59] <mgz> g0twig: you just want the client tools, right?
[16:00] <mgz> you're not trying to also run juju machines on debian?
[16:00] <mgz> in which case, you can either straight up get an ubuntu deb and unpack it, or branch the project and build it yourself, I'm happy to help you with that if you need it
[16:01] <g0twig> mgz: no, an actual juju server
[16:02] <mgz> g0twig: you know the charms are all written against precise, right?
[16:02] <mgz> you're not going to get them running on debian sid without changing every charm you use
[16:02] <g0twig> mgz: I saw charms for newer releases
[16:03] <mgz> there are some, and there's no reason you couldn't write a charm that would run on both a debian release and an ubuntu release... but that's more work
[16:03] <g0twig> mgz: so you say I cant use juju on a non-ubuntu server?
[16:03] <g0twig> oh
[16:03] <g0twig> because Debian 7.0 seems to be the only option I've got
[16:04] <mgz> g0twig: ah, and they're also preinstalled servers?
[16:04] <g0twig> yeah
[16:04] <g0twig> virtual server
[16:04] <mgz> the general juju setup is to start from a blank cloud machine and do all the setup,
[16:04] <g0twig> why is juju so distro-dependend?
[16:05] <g0twig> I dont like the fact, even when I would have a Ubuntu server
[16:05] <mgz> we've just added a manual provider, which lets you start from a less-clean state,
[16:05] <mgz> but that's a less juju-y way, you can't just say "give me 10 more units for this service" like that
[16:06] <g0twig> hm...
[16:06] <g0twig> whats a better option to run juju on ubuntu server, version 12.04 or 13.10?
[16:06] <mgz> g0twig: at essence, because a charm needs to set up your service, and "apt-get install X" is somewhat distro/series dependent
[16:08] <mgz> g0twig: 12.04, but again, you really want a cloud provider that gives you any number of pristine instances (or you can run everything in lxc containers locally)
[16:08] <g0twig> mgz: I just want to test stuff...
[16:08] <mgz> it's not like you're asking your hosting provider for 3 machines with mysql and php then putting juju on it
[16:09] <mgz> that's just not the model
[16:09] <g0twig> I only got one machine
[16:09] <mgz> g0twig: so, for just testing stuff, we go back to the beginning, get the ubuntu deb, unpack it, use the binary from there, I expect it will even work on sid
[16:10] <g0twig> ok
[16:10] <mgz> you do need an SSL mongodb, which I hope debian has picked up by now
[16:10] <mgz> and it will download an ubuntu precise image to run in the lxc containers
[16:10] <g0twig> but 13.10 has a much newer juju version
[16:11] <mgz> Some Hacking Required(tm)
[16:11] <mgz> right, you probably want the one from either saucy or our ppa
[16:14] <g0twig> mgz: so now I installed juju-core, juju-local, juju
[16:14] <g0twig> what else?
[16:15] <mgz> lxc, mongodb (needs ssl enabled), and you don't want 'juju' probably
[16:16] <g0twig> juju-local installed    debootstrap libboost-filesystem1.49.0 libboost-program-options1.49.0   libboost-system1.49.0 libboost-thread1.49.0 libcap2-bin libpam-cap   libpcrecpp0 lxc mongodb-clients mongodb-server
[16:17] <mgz> right, that metapackage pulls in the right bit
[16:17] <mgz> that looks good then. `juju version` should say 1.16 or similar
[16:18] <g0twig> what do I want here? Configuring for Amazon AWS Configuring for Windows Azure Configuring for HP Cloud Configuring for OpenStack Configuring for MAAS Configuring for LXC local provider (Linux)
[16:18] <g0twig> LXC? I just want to get my stuff going, I dont know much about the cloud
[16:18] <g0twig> and different things
[16:19] <g0twig> I just want to have the options to easily install services, manage them, etc. all on this machine
[16:19] <mgz> yeah, I'd try the local provider, just to experiment
[16:19] <g0twig> does JuJu need a linuxkernel > 3.8?
[16:20] <mgz> but, it sounds like you maybe want some other tool if you just want to manage services on one box
[16:20] <mgz> ...the latest lxc may well do, surely sid has a modern linux kernel?
[16:20] <g0twig> I am on debian 7.0, no sid
[16:21] <g0twig> last time I tried sid, my machine didnt boot up again...
[16:22] <g0twig> ok, it tells me ERROR error parsing environment "local": no public ssh keys found what I am missing?
[16:23] <g0twig> ok, I made a ssh key
[16:40] <ahasenack> hi, could someone review lp:~ahasenack/charms/precise/apache2/apache2-default-servername ?
[16:40] <ahasenack> r46 (latest) introduced a regression that broke one of my deployments using apache2
[17:04] <AskUbuntu> juju WordPress with nginx permalink issues | http://askubuntu.com/q/364526
[21:54] <dagelf> Hi everyone. Where can I find info on how much space juju needs, and in what paths - and how to change that?
[21:56] <dagelf> juju-local that is... it seems it eats a lot of space in /usr, regardless of where your root path is set in the config
[22:14] <dagelf> Okay, I found it... /var/lib/lxc
[22:22] <dagelf> Urg. So what does ERROR Get http://10.0.3.1:8040/provider-state: dial tcp 10.0.3.1:8040: connection refused mean? How do I restart whatever it's looking for? What is looking for what?
[22:25] <dagelf> No, really... dagelf@ubuntu:~$ sudo juju bootstrap ERROR Get http://10.0.3.1:8040/provider-state: dial tcp 10.0.3.1:8040: connection refused
[22:26] <dagelf> Pretty useless error message and documentation at this point
[22:27] <sarnold> does netstat -lnp show anything listening on that port and IP?
[22:28] <dagelf> nope, nothing running, what should I run?
[22:29] <dagelf> it's a clean install on 13.04, I've just created some test environments and then destroyed them... 3 times... now this happens. I don't feel like rebooting or re-installing everything.... at the moment I'm playing with jujud to see where it fits in...
[22:30] <dagelf> (local environment of course)
[22:31] <sarnold> dagelf: are you using the juju ppa or the distribution-packaged juju? I think the ppa might give better results, if you're not using it
[22:31] <dagelf> ppa:juju/stable
[22:32] <dagelf> Did I break it?
[22:32] <dagelf> Are there logs somewhere?
[22:32] <dagelf> or verbosity switches?
[22:34] <sarnold> dagelf: iirc, /var/log/juju/ has some, but I'm afraid it's been a while since I've used it, my knowledge is slowly getting out of sync with what's new :/
[22:35] <dagelf> Before it's bootstrapped it actually deletes all the directories... nothing. :-( And all the other options and commands says: Sorry, bootstrap it first.
[22:36] <dagelf> But it won't bootstrap anymore and there's nowhere to figure out why or how to fix it. Sad.
[22:36] <dagelf> Okay, I just created another user on the system now it magically works.
[22:37] <dagelf> I'll try wipe the ,juju path and re-run init. Obviously something bad left there...
[22:37] <sarnold> surprising :/
[22:37] <dagelf> Well, there are some charm caches,  environments.yaml and local.jenv
[22:38] <dagelf> I'm guessing something in local.jenv did that
[22:42] <AskUbuntu> Juju deploy of Charm (Mysql) in MAAS provider failing after successful bootstrap. Juju status stuck in "Pending" state | http://askubuntu.com/q/364714
[23:47] <Preytell> when deploying to ubuntu MAAS, I have the regional controller all ready to go, and I have nodes ready, but when I try to run 'juju sync-tools' I am getting: ERROR error parsing environment "maas": no public ssh keys found
[23:47] <Preytell> I can add this but I am unsure which keys it is looking for
[23:57] <marcoceppi> Preytell: you have to add your SSH keys to MAAS, then make sure it's either the id_rsa in your ~/.ssh directory or you can specify your public key in .juju/environments.yaml as "authorized-keys"
[23:59] <Preytell> nod. I have done that, and I checked to make sure that the key was correct, and in the ~/.ssh directory. I will try adding to environ file.