[00:21] <sisterFister> how do I set the default monospace font?
[00:26] <phillw> sisterFister: I'd suggest heading to http://font.ubuntu.com/
[00:27] <wxl> sisterFister: did you set the font in lxterminal preferences?
[00:29] <wxl> sisterFister: i will say if you're a hardcore terminal user, you might prefer source code pro. it's totally unambiguous
[00:31] <wxl> sisterFister: https://blogs.adobe.com/typblography/2012/09/source-code-pro.html (i will add i normally have nothing but bad things to say about adobe in general but this is the exception)
[00:34] <Unit193> wxl: No package, right?
[00:34] <wxl> nuh uh
[00:35] <wxl> so yeah unsupported and all
[00:35] <wxl> (but it's better) :)
[00:35] <Unit193> No, I was searching to see,  source code pro  wasn't narrow enough. :P
[05:40] <Quenz1> I'm getting an "Ubuntu 13.10 Upgrade Available" window. This is Lubuntu.
[05:40] <ianorlin> yes it shows as that it will upgrade to lubuntu 13.10
[09:21] <leszek> hi
[12:30] <DLange> After Lubuntu 13.03 -> 13.10 upgrade I get: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: Operation not permitted   when I click the shutdown option to power off the machine, same as Issue 1 here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2182546&p=12823528 . Any ideas?
[12:32] <Katy> My HP Deskjet 1050 does not print in Lubuntu.
[12:34] <Katy> My HP Deskjet does not print in Lubuntu 13.10
[12:54] <brainwash> DLange: is the package systemd-shim missing on your system?
[12:55] <DLange> brainwash: no, that's installed. Has been installed during the upgrade.
[12:56] <brainwash> DLange: ok, so it's not the same issue as described in the forum thread
[12:59] <DLange> in .cache/lxsession/Lubuntu/run.log it says: polkit-gnome-1-WARNING **: Unable to determine the session we are in: No session for pid xxxx
[13:11] <brainwash> uhm, what does "loginctl list-sessions" return?
[13:11] <DLange> brainwash: empty, 0 sessions listed
[13:12] <brainwash> does lubuntu even use logind or still consolekit?
[13:13] <brainwash> well, lets see, run "ck-list-sessions"
[13:13] <DLange> mine runs console-kit-daemon
[13:13] <DLange> ck-list-sessions returns the correct info
[13:13] <brainwash> ok
[13:16] <DLange> how do I switch to systemd sessions?
[13:22] <brainwash> DLange: systemd-logind is not running, right? see "status systemd-logind"
[13:24] <DLange> that command returns unknown job, but I see /lib/systemd/systemd-logind running with ps
[13:26] <brainwash> sadly I have no clue right now, how it is supposed to work in lubuntu.. does it still launch the session with ck-launch-session and/or dbus-launch in xinitrc?
[13:28] <brainwash> the 13.10 image does ship with consolekit
[13:29] <DLange> there is Xsession.d/90consolekit and that has ck-launch-session inside
[13:29] <brainwash> jarnos: http://askubuntu.com/questions/360928/lubuntu-13-10-cant-autostart-anything/361511
[13:34] <brainwash> DLange: maybe there is something wrong with policykit, I'll check it on my test installation
[13:34] <DLange> thanks brainwash
[13:34] <leszek> re
[13:36] <brainwash> DLange: it's a desktop pc with all desktop environments installed, and I just checked and my lubuntu session uses logind
[13:38] <DLange> brainwash: my Kubuntu 13.10 has session optional        pam_systemd.so in /etc/pam.d/common-session (it was also updated from 13.04). Lubuntu has not.
[13:39] <jarnos> brainwash, thanks for the info.
[13:42] <brainwash> DLange: mmh
[13:42] <DLange> brainwash: that was it, sudo  pam-auth-update --force   solved it
[13:42] <DLange> brainwash: thank you very much for your help!
[13:43] <brainwash> DLange: great :)
[14:02] <brainwash> can anyone else confirm bug 1236417 ?
[14:20] <jarnos> brainwash, that would be useful info in the release notes, too.
[14:24] <brainwash> jarnos: yeah, way too many things seems to be broken or do not work as intended
[14:25] <brainwash> did you notice, that the logout menu entry doesn't trigger the logout dialog sometimes, same for the logout button in the bottom right corner
[14:25] <jarnos> brainwash, no
[14:28] <brainwash> jarnos: really strange, the button does not react to single click, but opens 2 logout dialogues when double clicked o.o
[14:29] <jarnos> brainwash, IIRC I have problems sometimes with pcmanfm not responding to mouse clicks.
[14:31] <brainwash> I'll do some more testing, at the current state lubuntu 13.10 really appears to unpolished
[14:32] <brainwash> to be
[14:32] <brainwash> so I'll recommend people to stay with 13.04 until things get sorted
[15:48] <phillw> brainwash: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu has been edited to include the bug.
[16:24] <brainwash> phillw: thanks :)
[16:26] <phillw> brainwash: is the solution to http://askubuntu.com/questions/360928/lubuntu-13-10-cant-autostart-anything/361511 "sudo  pam-auth-update --force" ? If so, it can be added to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Workarounds
[16:27] <phillw> It still needs a bug raising to the devs are aware of the issue and potential fix.
[16:27] <phillw> s/to/so
[16:28] <brainwash> no, the autostart entries can be enabled like described in on askubuntu -> no a bug actually
[16:28] <phillw> okies, thanks :)
[16:28] <brainwash> not sure about the pam thing
[16:28] <brainwash> only one users complained about the missing systemd entry in the pam conf file
[16:29] <brainwash> one user
[16:30] <brainwash> so it might be something related to a specific configuration
[16:30] <brainwash> and not a general issue
[16:32] <Neurotoxin> hi can you help me plz, i cant install lxle and it doesnt tell me why
[16:33] <Neurotoxin> it just says something went wrong and its starting a desktop session so that i may find the error,  then booting from the dvd works fine but what should I do there??
[21:54] <SonikkuAmerica> Why do we have a "Nexus 7 desktop" if we don't have a Nexus 7 image?
[22:00] <SonikkuAmerica> Never mind, I found it.
[22:00] <SonikkuAmerica> Are we going to continue offering it?
[22:04] <phillw> SonikkuAmerica: I have no idea, arm-ac100 will be dropped owing to no support in testing by the people who had the devices to do so. I guess Julien will reflect on what goes forward to 14.04 for us.
[22:06] <SonikkuAmerica> phillw: I'd gladly do a generic armhf image on the 2013 Nexus 7...
[22:10] <phillw> SonikkuAmerica: communities are welcome to do what ever spins they want :)
[22:11] <SonikkuAmerica> Well, we have a Nexus 7 session, why not a Nexus 7 image? (Would it be possible to use the armhf+ac100 for the time being?)
[22:11] <SonikkuAmerica> I should propose the idea to Julien sometime.
[22:13] <phillw> SonikkuAmerica: ...me twiddles thumbs...
[22:13] <SonikkuAmerica> ? Is that a "no time like the present" gesture?
[22:14] <phillw> SonikkuAmerica: no, was an awaiting on acceptance of an invite :D
[22:36]  * ianorlin doesn't ahve a device to test it on
[23:25] <n-iCe> llo