[08:17] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Mole Day! :-D
[08:20] <mzanetti> Mirv: hi
[10:48] <Mirv> mzanetti: I don't need TCP connection, UDP is fine
[10:48] <mzanetti> Mirv: reading the mailing list thread about maps... For the N9 I wrote a FoxtrottGPS clone in Qt. should be relatively easy to port that as an intermediate solution. there is one issue however: QtLocation's map doesn't regard the grid unit size.
[10:49] <mzanetti> Mirv: do you think that would be something we should distro-patch like with the browser?
[10:50] <Mirv> mzanetti: maybe so, although upstream solution would eventually be needed. the image tile maps are ~ok, but I do think a vector graphics one would be needed since otherwise there's no possibility of real offline maps.
[10:51] <mzanetti> Mirv: upstream supports both afaik. Just OSM only ships bitmap based map tiles
[10:53] <Mirv> mzanetti: well OSM is not a single entity, so anyone can create whatever kind of data, like navit at http://maps9.navit-project.org/ - whole Europe fits into <8GB
[10:53] <Mirv> the upstream just needs to define the format and then have an exporter from OSM database
[10:54] <mzanetti> Mirv: and the resources to host it. anyways... that's not really related to the actual issue I'd say. I guess right now also vector based map tiles would be rendered too small
[10:56] <Mirv> mzanetti: right, that OSM indeed doesn't do, host it. I think we shouldn't rely on volunteer funded external source anyway but have eg. a mirror
[10:59] <Mirv> mzanetti: but you're right, any sort of map click package would be better than nothing
[11:00] <Mirv> mzanetti: it seems Fabian Herb is also having a map viewer, but I guess no GPS listening yet https://code.launchpad.net/~fherb/+junk/pam
[11:00] <mzanetti> Mirv: I can port it over. seems quite simple. but still everything really hard to read because its so small
[11:00] <mzanetti> Mirv: because it doesn't regard the Grid units/DPI
[11:02] <Mirv> mzanetti: maybe the SDK team could enlighten about if there'd be something that should be done?
[11:03] <mzanetti> Mirv: do you mean I should report a bug?
[11:16] <Mirv> mzanetti: I meant asking first bzoltan / his team, but if you can formulate a bug about it, it's probably easier to communicate
[11:17] <bzoltan> Mirv: mzanetti: What can I help?
[11:17]  * mzanetti thought Mirv would be part of the SDK team
[11:17] <mzanetti> bzoltan: thinking about the QtLocation's map: it doesn't regard grid units
[11:17] <bzoltan> Mirv: mzanetti: in practice he is :)
[11:17] <bzoltan> mzanetti:  true
[11:17] <mzanetti> bzoltan: which causes street names to be really hard to read because so small
[11:18] <bzoltan> mzanetti:  never really tested. Please file a bug with a good description.
[11:18] <mzanetti> bzoltan: though if this would be required to distro-patch like with the browser until upstream solves that stuff
[11:18] <mzanetti> bzoltan: ok, I will
[11:18] <bzoltan> mzanetti:  most likely your thoght is correct
[11:19] <Mirv> mzanetti: I'm in desktop/integration team, but work closely with sdk team as well ;)
[11:19] <mzanetti> ah
[11:19] <mzanetti> ok. thanks guys. will file the bug and see if I manage to get T-Mon (the TangoGPS clone) running asap
[12:13] <nik90> nic-doffay: I dont think https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1240629
[12:13] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1240629 in Ubuntu Clock App "Selecting the same option again in an OptionSelector results in that option being hidden" [Medium,Confirmed]
[12:13] <nik90> nic-doffay: that bug is not fixed as of rev 801
[12:15] <nic-doffay> nik90, if this wasn't fixed then you should have commented on the old bug, not made another report! I'll look at it now though...
[12:16] <nic-doffay> nik90, it wasn't marked as fixed either.
[12:17] <nik90> nic-doffay: no this bug is different from the other
[12:17] <nik90> nic-doffay: as in this bug happens only if the selectedIndex variable is used during declaration
[12:17] <nik90> nic-doffay: the other bug happens when you select the same option again with/without the selectedIndex variable. Hence I created a new bug
[12:17] <nic-doffay> nik90, my mistake then. I should have looked at the report. I'll get to fixing this after lunch.
[12:18] <nik90> nic-doffay: np
[13:17] <aquarius> Is the App Design Clinic, going on right now, on irc somewhere as well so I can ask questions?
[13:17] <aquarius> popey, ^
[13:18] <popey> we generally take the questions offline and batch them up
[13:18] <aquarius> ah, OK
[13:18] <aquarius> I shall just watch this week then :)
[13:18] <aquarius> and put together some questions for Katie et al for the next one
[13:19] <popey> please do!
[13:19] <popey> we do them every other week
[13:23] <WebbyIT> There is a way to share ubuntu touch screen with another monitor?
[13:23] <WebbyIT> eg hdmi-miniusb?
[13:23] <WebbyIT> popey, ^
[13:27] <popey> not that I am aware of
[13:28] <aquarius> thank you, katie
[13:28] <mihir_> WebbyIT: again there is something wrong with your MR
[13:28] <WebbyIT> popey, what a pity!
[13:29] <WebbyIT> mihir_, yes, see, but I don't understant what, I'm investigating
[13:29] <mihir_> WebbyIT: I guesss you can catch balloons if he can help for jenkins
[13:30] <WebbyIT> sure, thanks
[13:31] <GuidoPallemans> I won't be able to make it to the reminders hangout, I've got a lesson in 30 mins
[13:34] <katie> aquarius, you're welcome!
[13:53] <WebbyIT> hei popey, I was reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/DevelopmentGuide and nowhere there is write to sign CoC. is a lack? Not a thing desired, I hope
[19:36] <Smrtz> Hey, I have a wgetpaste script in my Builds/wgetpaste-2.23/ directory, I cp'd it to /usr/bin, and when I run it, I get a "bash: /usr/bin/wgetpaste: /bin/bash bad interpreter: No such file or directory" error, can you guys help please?
[20:00] <randomcpp> mhall119 I just saw your feedback about saucybacon, I'll update the pkg tomorrow, is it ok for you? :-)
[20:00] <mhall119> randomcpp: works for me, thanks
[20:00] <mhall119> popey: ^^
[20:01]  * popey hugs randomcpp 
[20:02] <randomcpp> ahah :-)
[20:03] <randomcpp> I'd do it right now, but I'm not at home..
[20:28] <AskUbuntu> Python Excercicse | http://askubuntu.com/q/364646
[22:40] <Elleo> are there instructions anywhere on how to get gdb working with ubuntu touch apps?
[22:40] <Elleo> launching them normally just results in "QUbuntu: Could not create application instance"