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nhainespleia2: hey, I need to buy an über-expensive book from O'Reilly.  They don't offer LoCo or community discounts, do they?17:58
nhaines(The book is in German; ironically "über-expensive" translates to "superteuer" and doesn't have the word über in it.)17:58
nhainesI suppose it's relevant that I'm buying an ebook copy.18:03
akkSeems like I see 50% off sales from them pretty often ... if you can wait a few weeks one might appear.18:05
nhainesakk: aww.  I need the book for a project I'm currently on.18:05
akkYou might check local LUGs too -- I think a lot of LUGs get discounts, if we don't.18:06
nhainesakk: thanks.  :)  I found a couple codes on the Web, so I'll wait an hour and see if we can get the California team credit for the sale.18:11
nhainesPlus, I just got offered the company credit card to make the purchase, so even better.18:12
akk\o/18:13
nhainesQuite.  :)18:15
pleia2nhaines: the code is the same for all user groups19:08
pleia2it's the one you find all over the internet :)19:08
pleia2they don't really track who is using it or whatnot as far as I can tell19:09
nhainespleia2: yay, thanks.  :)19:12
raevolhttp://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/384934/torvalds-steamos-will-really-help-linux-on-desktop19:35
darthrobot`Title: [Torvalds: SteamOS will "really help" Linux on desktop | News | PC Pro]19:35
nhainesI agree.  Just about the only thing Linux doesn't do is games, and that's simply because they're not ported.19:53
nhainesBut Valve Software is not only creating and distributing a dedicated Linux-based gaming platform, but is also creating free debuggers.19:53
blitzit's not that simple19:54
nhainesEven if we pretended that Valve didn't strongarm Intel, nVidia and AMD to fix their graphics drivers, that alone is a huge boost.19:54
akkI actually think the big thing Linux doesn't do (as far as desktop) is get heard about, or sold preinstalled.19:56
akkIt would work just fine for most people (most people aren't hardcore gamers) but people don't really have the opportunity to consider it.19:57
blitzI think steamos is great but will be held back by steam machines... yet to get tons of info on that though19:57
raevolblitz: why held back by steam machines?20:09
blitzbecause, like akk mentioned, the biggest way the os will make it into people's homes is preinstalled20:10
raevoland?20:10
blitzso the key to it being very successful is how well steam machines take off20:11
raevoland you think they won't take off because?20:11
blitzbecause the odds are against someone breaking into that market20:12
raevolwhat do you consider to be "that market"?20:13
blitzthere isn't much concrete information available yet, but it just seems like there are so many places where valve/their hardware partners could fail20:13
blitzthe biggest to me is them pricing things too high, or not low enough20:13
raevolwell i am excited to give it a shot :) i won't be buying a steam machine though, i'll put it on the box i already have if anything20:18
blitzoh, don't get me wrong, I will too20:27
blitzI'll probably turn my current gaming pc into a steam machine and build a new one20:27
raevolyay saucy23:27
raevolwow the software center is really terrible :(23:39

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