[03:12]  * skellat is not amused at the thought of Lake Effect Snow already.  I want a white, snowy Christmas...not a white, snowy Halloween...
[03:12] <Unit193> Snow! :D
[03:12] <skellat> Unit193: Of which I stand a stronger likelihood of seeing in the next 24 hours than you do
[03:12] <Unit193> Yeeeeeeep.
[03:13] <Unit193> Temp: 39 F (4 C) ~ Overcast ~ Windchill: 37 F (3 C) ~ Humidity: 79% ~ Observed: Tue 22, 22:52
[03:13] <skellat> Unit193: Upper air mass needs to cool to 35 F for the precipitation to crystallize properly to form snowflakes
[03:14] <Unit193> Sure, just pointing out it's getting colder and closer. :D
[03:14] <skellat> Yeah
[03:14] <skellat> Unit193: Any thoughts on the draft verification application?
[03:20] <Unit193> Wouldn't it be better to link to the dynamic page and leave out the static screenshot?
[03:20] <Unit193> 10 active members, not Ubuntu members I'd presume?
[03:22] <skellat> We have 5 Ubuntu Members.
[03:22] <skellat> Where are you getting the 10 from?
[03:23] <skellat> There is the direct/indirect thing caused by the ~ubuntu-us-ohio-ne group that may or may not be nuked in the near term due to internal machinations in LoCo Council
[03:24] <skellat> That's where the numbers deviate a little because LP double-counts people present in both sets
[03:25] <skellat> So when you go to ~ubuntu-us-ohio it shows 99 members...it double counts the people who present in both ~ubuntu-us-ohio and ~ubuntu-us-ohio-ne which is a subordinate member group
[03:26] <Unit193> "Ubuntu Ohio will return to leadership by a council once there are at least ten active Ubuntu Members within this social community."
[03:27] <skellat> Oh
[03:27] <skellat> That line
[03:27] <skellat> Yep
[03:28] <skellat> You have to be an Ubuntu Member now to be able to request any resources
[03:28] <skellat> So
[03:28] <skellat> If we were to restaff the Council right this minute...it would be you, me, and jrgifford
[03:29] <skellat> Someone who is an Ubuntu Member could lead in theory but they'd be locked out of the process of requesting any support from the Community Support Budget
[03:29] <skellat> We're the first LoCo to have done so
[03:30] <skellat> Which we had to do to make sure UbuCon at OLF still happened
[03:31] <skellat> s/Someone who is an Ubuntu Member could lead in theory but they'd be locked out of the process of requesting any support from the Community Support Budget/Someone who is NOT an Ubuntu Member could lead in theory but they'd be locked out of the process of requesting any support from the Community Support Budget/
[03:31] <jenni> skellat meant to say: Someone who is NOT an Ubuntu Member could lead in theory but they'd be locked out of the process of requesting any support from the Community Support Budget
[03:31] <Unit193> But why 10 Ubuntu Members?  If we had a 3 person council and us three on it, but 20 non-"Ubuntu member" members...
[03:32] <skellat> :-) It is rather open for discussion.  Ten sounded like a good number when I was writing initially.
[03:32] <skellat> That's part of why we've got the meeting coming up to discuss the application and edits to make to it
[03:33] <Unit193> Heck, that's a small part, I personally wouldn't even require the council member be an "Ubuntu Member", but would recommend that person try for it after a time.  Of course one of them would have to be, though.
[03:34] <skellat> Like I said, LoCo Council guidelines don't require it at all.  It is only truly necessary when you need to ask for help from Jono's Community Budget.  Rather than leave it as an implied matter, I prefer to leave it as explicit
[03:34] <skellat> Plus the last three LoCo verifications we just did had an Ubuntu Member leading each LoCo (California, Australia, Pennsylvania)
[03:36] <skellat> With the state that OLF was in this last round...we'll likely need to ask for help from Jono's Community Budget again in the future.  So far we're the first and only LoCo to have drawn on it.
[03:38] <skellat> I do wish we'd scap the term "Ubuntu Member" and just put "Knight"/"Dame" in its place
[03:39] <Unit193> Erm...
[03:39] <skellat> :-)
[03:40] <skellat> We don't have to go that extreme but you catch my drift
[03:43] <skellat> It is a wiki and things are negotiable.  The meeting will be a chance to talk about the draft, edit it, and then I can get it scheduled for consideration by LoCo Council.  If we want there can be an IRC meeting of LoCo Council that we could all attend on the Third Tuesday of November or I can handle it privately via closed LP bug traffic.
[03:44] <Unit193> Well, only thing is just the 10 Ubuntu Member requirement.
[03:45] <skellat> We can go for 5 then but we'd have to figure out where the 2 unreachables are
[03:46] <skellat> If they're actually still around, great
[03:46] <skellat> If not, we need to figure out what to do with their digital ghosts
[03:50]  * skellat disappears to deal with real world matters
[12:42] <jrgifford> skellat: right. We are smaller. :(
[12:43] <jrgifford> Digital ghosts sounds like a really cheesy horror story.
[20:22] <belkinsa> skellat do we have a official date and time for the meeting?
[20:27] <skellat> Ooops
[20:28] <skellat> Been busy with family matters today
[20:28] <belkinsa> It's cool.
[20:31] <skellat> belkinsa: Better?
[20:31] <belkinsa> Yup, thank you
[20:34] <skellat> And e-mailed
[20:34] <belkinsa> Thanks again
[20:34]  * skellat heads off to handle other things in the house