| Kilos | morningall | 05:44 |
|---|---|---|
| Kilos | sjoe | 05:44 |
| Kilos | morning all | 05:44 |
| bduk1 | Good morning all | 06:13 |
| Kilos | yo bduk1 | 06:31 |
| Kilos | morning superfly | 06:44 |
| Kilos | who was it here that said they like php. i see langjan needs php help on the list | 06:45 |
| mazal | Morning everyone | 07:01 |
| Kilos | hi mazal | 07:01 |
| mazal | Gaanit weer reën oom ? | 07:02 |
| Kilos | hoop so | 07:02 |
| Kilos | kannie genoeg kry nie | 07:02 |
| Kilos | of kannie te veel kry nie | 07:02 |
| * Squirm dances | 07:04 | |
| Squirm | we're finally getting decent speeds | 07:04 |
| Kilos | lol what excited you Squirm | 07:04 |
| Squirm | I still don't think they're where they're supposed to be | 07:04 |
| Kilos | oh they been fixing things | 07:04 |
| Squirm | but they are good | 07:05 |
| Squirm | 4x4mbit lines | 07:05 |
| Squirm | I'm getting http download speeds of up to 900Kb/s | 07:05 |
| superfly | morning oom Kilos | 07:06 |
| superfly | hi Squirm | 07:06 |
| Squirm | morning superfly | 07:06 |
| mazal | Squirm, how do you combines the 4 lines ? At router level ? | 07:06 |
| Kilos | wow that be good Squirm | 07:06 |
| Squirm | mazal: yes | 07:06 |
| Squirm | we have an mweb bonded solution | 07:07 |
| mazal | Uncapped as well ? | 07:07 |
| Squirm | yes | 07:09 |
| Squirm | should be unshaped too | 07:09 |
| Squirm | but I don't think it is | 07:09 |
| mazal | Sounds too slow for 4x4 , on a single 4 I used to get average 410Kb/s | 07:10 |
| Kilos | no man thats not fast Squirm | 07:10 |
| Kilos | you aint got the b and B mixed up | 07:10 |
| Kilos | ? | 07:10 |
| Squirm | mazal: it is | 07:11 |
| Squirm | just shows the state of our exchange | 07:11 |
| Kilos | i get up to 400kB/w | 07:11 |
| Kilos | ai!/s | 07:11 |
| mazal | oom Kilos , your speed works with calendar ? Per week lol | 07:11 |
| Kilos | lol | 07:11 |
| Kilos | no man 8ta rocks | 07:12 |
| Kilos | Squirm, do that speedtest.co.za | 07:12 |
| Kilos | should be over 4mb/s i think | 07:12 |
| Squirm | Kilos: I did yesterday | 07:12 |
| Squirm | http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3049341862 | 07:12 |
| Squirm | definitely over 4 | 07:12 |
| Squirm | but not quite 16 | 07:12 |
| mazal | Should be around 1.3Mb/s | 07:12 |
| Kilos | no man 1.3 mb/s is slow | 07:13 |
| Squirm | 11.66Mb/s | 07:13 |
| Squirm | 11.77Mb/s | 07:13 |
| Kilos | ya thats better | 07:13 |
| Kilos | 11.77/8 | 07:14 |
| Kilos | ai! | 07:14 |
| Kilos | Maaz, 11.77/8 | 07:14 |
| Maaz | Kilos: 1.47125 | 07:14 |
| Kilos | 1.4mB/s | 07:14 |
| Kilos | thats good | 07:14 |
| Squirm | we should be getting more | 07:15 |
| Squirm | but alas... | 07:15 |
| Kilos | dont be greedy leave some for us | 07:15 |
| Kilos | i go feed sheep | 07:16 |
| Kilos | thats a good speed for getting iso's and doing update/upgrades | 07:30 |
| Squirm | Kilos: among other things | 08:43 |
| Kilos | yeah | 08:43 |
| Kilos | lol brings back memories of 9 hour upgrade of 8.10 0n gprs | 08:44 |
| * Kilos loves 3g | 08:46 | |
| * Squirm loves HSDPA | 08:46 | |
| Squirm | and I wish we could get LTE here :/ | 08:46 |
| Kilos | oh ya thats what i get with 8ta nowadays | 08:47 |
| Kilos | utms or something as well | 08:47 |
| Kilos | i see the lte advertised but dunno what its all about | 08:47 |
| Squirm | umts is 3g and up | 08:48 |
| Kilos | is lte only in cities | 08:48 |
| Squirm | city centres | 08:48 |
| Kilos | aw | 08:48 |
| Squirm | LTE - Long Term Evolution | 08:48 |
| Squirm | you get speed of 50Mb/s | 08:49 |
| Squirm | and our speed is 12Mb/s | 08:49 |
| Kilos | lol arent you trying to have mooiriver classed as a city | 08:49 |
| Kilos | wow that is fast hey | 08:49 |
| Squirm | and it's wireless | 08:49 |
| Squirm | so from your cellphone | 08:49 |
| Squirm | or LTE dongle | 08:49 |
| Kilos | that reminds me i still gotta try get a wireless card for the p4 | 08:50 |
| Kilos | oh special dongle as well | 08:50 |
| Squirm | Telkom Mobile executive, Amith Maharaj demonstrated the performance of its live LTE network at the 2013 MyBroadband conference, with peak speeds exceeding 200Mbps. | 08:50 |
| Kilos | wow | 08:50 |
| Kilos | maybe if you use a yagi with your wireless you can get it from a city | 08:51 |
| Kilos | but you too far | 08:51 |
| Squirm | that would be internal though | 08:51 |
| Squirm | Durban is the closest city with LTE | 08:51 |
| Kilos | aw much too far | 08:52 |
| Kilos | yagi might manage a max of 20 ks i think | 08:52 |
| Kilos | and you got too many mountains there | 08:52 |
| Kilos | gotta be line of sight | 08:53 |
| Squirm | I know | 08:54 |
| mazal | Guys what can cause Unity's app scope to stop keeping history of apps that is used ? My files scope still shows history , just the apps one doesn't. This started suddenly yesterday evening | 08:59 |
| Kilos | there is a setting | 09:00 |
| Kilos | under pivacy i think it was | 09:00 |
| Kilos | privacy | 09:00 |
| Kilos | maybe it has limits to how much it remembers | 09:01 |
| Kilos | ohi psyatw | 09:01 |
| psyatw | hi Kilos | 09:01 |
| mazal | I checked there , but all settings there is to remove. There is no disable. And my files scope still works | 09:02 |
| Kilos | maybe set it to all | 09:02 |
| mazal | I think yesterday's update broke it | 09:02 |
| Kilos | oh my | 09:02 |
| psyatw | hi mazal | 09:02 |
| mazal | Hi psyatw | 09:02 |
| Kilos | should show past week or day or month and all and advanced | 09:03 |
| mazal | All of those settings will delete it | 09:05 |
| Kilos | try some --fix-brokens or something | 09:05 |
| mazal | I am sure there were an disabled setting there | 09:05 |
| mazal | No matter what you choose there , it will delete it | 09:05 |
| Kilos | there is also the on off button at the bottom | 09:05 |
| mazal | And why only the apps and not the files | 09:05 |
| Kilos | try an aptitude upgrade | 09:06 |
| Kilos | or look in synaptic there is a fix broken somewhere | 09:06 |
| Kilos | ya edit fix broken | 09:07 |
| Kilos | maybe you didnt get a good upgrade so you can also do mark all upgrades and it will show the apply arrow if there is something missing | 09:08 |
| mazal | sudo apt-get fix-the-broken-stuff | 09:08 |
| Kilos | um | 09:08 |
| Kilos | apt-get --fix-broken i think it was | 09:08 |
| mazal | sudo apt-get fix-the-broken-stuff && sudo-apt-get install stop-breaking-things-in-the-future | 09:09 |
| Kilos | Maaz, google apt-get fix broken command on ubuntu | 09:09 |
| Maaz | Kilos: "AptGet/Howto - Community Ubuntu Documentation" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto :: "apt-get - Ubuntu Manpage Repository" http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/oneiric/man8/apt-get.8.html :: "How to fix broken packages using the Command Line - Linux Mint ..." http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/482 :: "installation - Package system is | 09:09 |
| Maaz | broken. How to fix it? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/118749/package-system-i… | 09:09 |
| mazal | And just when I thought my Ubuntu problems is over after going back to LTS | 09:10 |
| Kilos | also sudo dpkg --configure -a | 09:10 |
| Kilos | do an aptitude upgrade man and see what it says | 09:11 |
| Kilos | will tell you if something not lekker | 09:11 |
| mazal | Btw oom , I really like that backintime. Works very well with very good "how many snapshots" to keep setting. You should check it out | 09:12 |
| mazal | Only lacks a function for "before backup run this command" | 09:12 |
| Kilos | will check it out if you remind me in new data month | 09:13 |
| Kilos | what is backintime | 09:13 |
| Kilos | everything works here | 09:14 |
| Kilos | running main psu on mobo and dvd and external psu on 2 drives | 09:16 |
| Kilos | hehe | 09:16 |
| Kilos | i like then old psu's with the manual on off button that doesnt relay on the mobo to switch on | 09:17 |
| mazal | It's a backup app. The only one I could find so far that keeps good weekly , monthly , yearly backups automatically | 09:20 |
| Kilos | no man i do backups manually when data allows. nothing automatic here | 09:21 |
| mazal | I don't have time for manual anymore. Life got to full and forget | 09:21 |
| Kilos | lol | 09:21 |
| charl_ | good morning all | 09:33 |
| mazal | Hi charl_ | 09:34 |
| charl_ | hi mazal | 09:34 |
| psyatw | good morning charl_ | 09:34 |
| Kilos | hi charl_ | 09:36 |
| charl_ | hi psyatw | 10:03 |
| charl_ | hi Kilos | 10:03 |
| Kilos | hi zerlgi | 11:39 |
| zerlgi | Hi Kilos | 11:41 |
| superfly | hi zerlgi | 11:46 |
| zerlgi | Hi superfly. One day I hope to actually meet you face-to-face:P | 11:50 |
| superfly | hehehehe me too | 11:51 |
| charl_ | whow this is shocking | 12:30 |
| charl_ | at work i use win8 inside a virtual machine in order to use some microsoft-only software | 12:30 |
| charl_ | mainly microsoft office and pl/sql developer | 12:30 |
| charl_ | i just attempted to upgrade to windows 8.1 - big mistake | 12:30 |
| charl_ | you are now forced (you literally can't get past the configuration screen) unless you sign up for a microsoft account | 12:30 |
| charl_ | they want all your details including your birthdate, and it's mandatory | 12:31 |
| charl_ | yet more reason not to use windows and to stay the heck away from microsoft software | 12:31 |
| charl_ | when you attempt a clean install, you get the same problem btw | 12:32 |
| charl_ | wiped the whole thing and am now restoring the old win8 from backups | 12:32 |
| charl_ | Windows 8 - NSA Approved (TM) | 12:33 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 12:42 |
| Kilos | the screws get turned tighter and tighter | 12:43 |
| charl_ | indeed, my thoughts exactly | 12:45 |
| charl_ | considering microsoft was one of the most "eager" american companies to work with the nsa i would not be at all surprised if this is used for data collection | 12:45 |
| charl_ | if you said that 12 months ago it would be sheer paranoia but right now it's just plain obvious | 12:46 |
| Kilos | ai! | 12:46 |
| mazal | Enjoy the evening everyone | 12:51 |
| Kilos | you too mazal | 12:51 |
| psyatw | the funny thing is that most windows software I used until a few years ago still worked on windows xp from 12 years ago | 13:16 |
| Kilos | hiya maiatoday | 14:13 |
| Kilos | hmm... frightened her off! | 14:19 |
| Kilos | naughty me | 14:19 |
| charl_ | ok this is extremely weird | 14:21 |
| charl_ | a week or so ago i attempted to upgrade my server from ubuntu 13.04 to ubuntu 13.10 | 14:22 |
| charl_ | the upgrade succeeded but then i discovered a really strange problem - after some repeated nmap scans i end up with random high-numbered tcp ports showing as open | 14:22 |
| charl_ | i got spooked and reverted the server back to a clean install of 13.04 | 14:23 |
| charl_ | now i did a clean install of ubuntu 13.10 amd64 desktop inside a virtual machine | 14:23 |
| charl_ | same thing - does anyone know what the heck is up here ?!?! | 14:23 |
| Kilos | not because it uses places like amazon and so in searching mode charl_ | 14:24 |
| Kilos | i dunno if that changed | 14:25 |
| charl_ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6289301/ | 14:25 |
| Kilos | saw it in 13.04 i think | 14:25 |
| charl_ | there's a paste, for those of you who think i'm losing it :) | 14:25 |
| Kilos | someone will tell you im sure | 14:26 |
| Kilos | is it 54988 open ports? | 14:27 |
| charl_ | no that is the number of one open port | 14:27 |
| charl_ | the rest of the ports are closed | 14:27 |
| charl_ | right above it says: Not shown: 65535 closed ports | 14:28 |
| charl_ | i have never seen some weirdness | 14:28 |
| charl_ | *such | 14:28 |
| Kilos | so 8 open | 14:28 |
| charl_ | yeah but they keep opening and closing rapidly | 14:29 |
| charl_ | you can see there, the results changed in the period of a few seconds | 14:29 |
| charl_ | the other thing i don't understand is why nothing shows up on netstat -tulpen | 14:29 |
| Kilos | ask this on #glug.za i think it is | 14:30 |
| Kilos | they mostly net guys i think and some from here too | 14:30 |
| charl_ | here's some more http://paste.ubuntu.com/6289324/ | 14:31 |
| Kilos | maybe frosty knows | 14:31 |
| charl_ | lemme do some proper googling and see if i can find something, otherwise i'm hitting up #ubuntu | 14:31 |
| Kilos | lol you struggle to keep up there | 14:38 |
| charl_ | ok posted the details, now waiting for a response (lol) | 14:41 |
| charl_ | ok found out something new, i did some repeated scans with and without sudo | 14:43 |
| charl_ | i only seem to have a problem *without* sudo | 14:43 |
| charl_ | this could be an nmap bug in fact | 14:43 |
| charl_ | but it's strange that it only popped up now | 14:43 |
| Kilos | ah | 14:43 |
| charl_ | i'm wondering if i should report it to them | 14:43 |
| Kilos | yes man | 14:45 |
| charl_ | wb maiatoday | 14:45 |
| Kilos | so it doesnt go to 14.04 | 14:45 |
| charl_ | ok i'll ask on the #nmap channel a bit later if i don't get any responses on #ubuntu | 14:48 |
| Kilos | isnt the a ubuntu dev channel | 14:49 |
| Kilos | just make sure its fixed before i get 14.04 | 14:52 |
| charl_ | it isn't too serious (i guess) because nmap is a tool used by very few people | 14:52 |
| Kilos | just run gufw so you can block all incoming | 14:53 |
| charl_ | no i definitely don't want to go and run some firewall app | 14:53 |
| charl_ | i belong to the firewalls are evil (well, mostly) school | 14:53 |
| Kilos | open ports are bad news | 14:53 |
| Kilos | lotsa bad peeps out there | 14:53 |
| charl_ | open ports were a big issue in the late-90's when you had the first real firewall fad | 14:54 |
| charl_ | that was a particular problem with windows hosts at the time because windows security was uber lame | 14:54 |
| Kilos | inetpro, comments? | 14:54 |
| charl_ | now windows has a firewall that is enabled by default (and it also needs it) but on ubuntu all ports (should) be closed on a default install | 14:55 |
| charl_ | the only time when you have open ports is when you actually go and install server applications | 14:55 |
| charl_ | and even so if you only want to use them for local purposes you (should be able to) get them to bind to the local loopback interface *only* | 14:56 |
| Kilos | here is one of his commands i saved and didnt lose | 14:56 |
| Kilos | netstat -an | grep LISTEN | 14:56 |
| charl_ | that's what netstat -tulpen is for | 14:56 |
| charl_ | then you don't need grep | 14:56 |
| Kilos | oh | 14:56 |
| Kilos | i got this one too | 14:57 |
| charl_ | although i think -tulpen gives you a little more | 14:57 |
| Kilos | sudo netstat -ntulp | 14:57 |
| charl_ | yup that is the exact same | 14:57 |
| Kilos | ah | 14:57 |
| charl_ | except i added the e switch | 14:57 |
| charl_ | i always type "tulpen" because we grow a huge amount of those here in the netherlands | 14:58 |
| Kilos | im lost with all these funny things but save them anyway | 14:58 |
| Kilos | tulips? | 14:58 |
| charl_ | yes they are called tulips in english, in dutch they are called "tulpen" | 14:59 |
| charl_ | i'm looking at netstat -an now but that gives you all the unix sockets too | 15:00 |
| Kilos | on a server i would use a firewall | 15:00 |
| charl_ | if you need a firewall on a server, you're probably doing something wrong, except on a few exceptionary cases | 15:01 |
| Kilos | im sure your win8 mate is still trying to prove linux is no good | 15:01 |
| charl_ | for example, if you run a daemon like memcache | 15:01 |
| charl_ | memcache basically has no authentication or security whatsoever, or in any case, it didn't used to last when i used it | 15:03 |
| charl_ | i like this purple background with the tree in front that ubuntu 13.10 ships with, it's a pity it's not the default | 15:04 |
| Kilos | hehe | 15:05 |
| Kilos | you using gui on a server? | 15:05 |
| charl_ | no i installed ubuntu desktop inside a vm here on my workstation | 15:05 |
| Kilos | ah | 15:05 |
| charl_ | you can run X on a server with openssh X11 forwarding | 15:06 |
| charl_ | quite handy if you need to install backwards gui-only software that you can't install at the terminal | 15:06 |
| Kilos | oh havent they dropped x yet | 15:07 |
| charl_ | i read about the new display server but couldn't be bothered to even find out about it | 15:07 |
| Kilos | there was talk about it | 15:07 |
| charl_ | we've been running x for so long now it's hard to imagine it not being there, but i'm not against change | 15:07 |
| Kilos | hehe | 15:07 |
| charl_ | http://unity.ubuntu.com/mir/ | 15:08 |
| charl_ | "Mir is a next generation display server targeted as a replacement for the X window server system to unlock next-generation user experiences for devices ranging from Linux desktop to mobile devices powered by Ubuntu. The primary purpose of Mir is to enable the development of the next generation Unity." | 15:09 |
| charl_ | i don't care about unity so i don't care about mir either | 15:09 |
| charl_ | next generation user experience... what complete and utter marketing drivel | 15:09 |
| Kilos | haha | 15:10 |
| Kilos | they must have big plans for unity man | 15:10 |
| Kilos | they dont do stuff just for fun | 15:10 |
| charl_ | innovation is good but i get the feeling they are overinnovating | 15:11 |
| charl_ | but let's face it, user interfaces suck as they are right now, and we need standardisation | 15:11 |
| Kilos | they need to make something that works on all mobiles and pcs | 15:12 |
| charl_ | also so that as a programmer you can create a single application and have it used transparently across all devices | 15:12 |
| charl_ | the application needs to automatically adapt to the device it's running on | 15:12 |
| Kilos | maybe they think mir is the best way to do that because of X probs in the past | 15:13 |
| Kilos | i remember needing to run some xrandr command sometime | 15:13 |
| charl_ | i have had very few issues with x in recent years | 15:14 |
| Kilos | no reply from #ubuntu yet? | 15:14 |
| charl_ | nope | 15:14 |
| Kilos | ya its got better | 15:14 |
| charl_ | oh here's the long story https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/Spec#Motivation_-_Why_Mir.3F | 15:15 |
| charl_ | interesting... i guess i kind of get it | 15:16 |
| charl_ | the new kubuntu 13.10 runs really fast whow | 15:21 |
| charl_ | kde 4.11.2 - what a joy to use | 15:21 |
| inetpro | good mornings | 19:02 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 19:10 |
| Kilos | lo inetpro skuus man | 19:10 |
| Kilos | hi psychicist | 19:10 |
| psychicist | hi Kilos | 19:11 |
| psychicist | hi inetpro | 19:11 |
| * inetpro thought Kilos had gone to sleep already | 19:12 | |
| inetpro | hi psychicist | 19:12 |
| Kilos | nope trying to fix an 80g drive that is seriously messed | 19:13 |
| inetpro | ai! | 19:13 |
| Kilos | first 5m got many bad sectors | 19:13 |
| inetpro | throw it away | 19:13 |
| Kilos | no man , its reader and drive work fine. one day ill get another same drive with dead reader or drive | 19:14 |
| Kilos | i wish you peeps that throw away so easy will send me all the throw aways | 19:15 |
| Kilos | you know i like fixing broken things | 19:16 |
| Kilos | im not a new parts fitter | 19:17 |
| Kilos | you like these new adds on tv. guy and chick riding in his jeep and a bird craps on the windscreen so he complains now he has to buy a new car | 19:18 |
| inetpro | tv ad? | 19:20 |
| inetpro | what is that? | 19:20 |
| Kilos | advertisement on the idiot box | 19:21 |
| inetpro | ai! | 19:21 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 19:21 |
| * inetpro has an old broken idiot box lying around in the garage for the last number of years | 19:21 | |
| inetpro | best thing that ever happened | 19:22 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:22 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 19:47 |
| * Maaz puts the kettle on | 19:47 | |
| Kilos | inetpro, coffee time | 19:47 |
| inetpro | Maaz: coffee please | 19:47 |
| Maaz | inetpro: Yessir | 19:47 |
| Kilos | now i can go sleep after i get my coffee | 19:48 |
| inetpro | ai! | 19:49 |
| Kilos | what now | 19:50 |
| inetpro | you sleep after having coffee? | 19:51 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos and inetpro! | 19:51 |
| inetpro | Maaz: dankie | 19:51 |
| Maaz | Groot plesier inetpro my vriend | 19:51 |
| Kilos | Maaz, danke | 19:51 |
| Maaz | Bitteschön | 19:51 |
| Kilos | Maaz, rusks please | 19:51 |
| Maaz | behind the calender on top of the fridge, but dont tell everyone Kilos | 19:51 |
| * Kilos dunks and enjoys | 19:52 | |
| Kilos | doop n ouma doop n ouma | 19:52 |
| inetpro | :-) | 19:52 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight. see ya morrow | 19:56 |
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