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kgbguys, is there a (specific?) reason why the kernel isn't the latest?!?? https://www.kernel.org/ says 3.11.6 && Saucy says: 3.11.0-12-generic00:08
kgbor am I missing something :-000:08
Poisoned_Dragonum... that's just typical.00:08
Poisoned_Dragon3.11.0 is the kernel release for 13.1000:08
kgbPoisoned_Dragon: u talking to me?.. help me out, pls. :-)00:08
Poisoned_DragonYou're welcome to update the kernel yourself, if you're savvy.00:09
kgbis there a PPA, or a reason why the kernel is lagging behind? o.000:09
kgb*official ppa, ofc.00:09
Pici!latest00:09
ubottuPackages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.00:09
Poisoned_DragonIt's never the latest kernel, unless you want it to be that way.00:09
xyzone3.10 is a lts kernel, 3.11 isnt00:09
kgbxyzone: pretend i'm ignorant, pls - and let me know y this is so?..00:10
xyzonekgb, that's how the linux kernel is being released00:10
Poisoned_DragonIf you really want to use the latest kernel, The folks over at #ubuntu+1 might be more helpful.00:10
PiciNo they won't.00:11
Poisoned_Dragonreally?00:11
Poisoned_DragonI thought they would be the ones tinkering with new things00:11
PiciThe 14.04 toolchain was just released, 14.04 looks just like 13.10 right now.00:11
Poisoned_DragonOh... too bad00:11
Poisoned_Dragonthanks for the info, Pici00:12
Picinp00:12
kgbso is there a general reason, for not having a closer-to-newest kernel?00:12
kgblike video, or something :p00:13
kgb* o:00:13
kgb(sry didn't mean to type ":P")00:13
Pici!latest | kgb00:16
ubottukgb: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.00:16
kgbgotcha, tnx00:17
Unit193!highno00:21
ubottuA higher version number does not mean that it's better. Especially with packages such as the linux kernel. The packages in the Ubuntu repositories are stable and will work fine. You should have a better reason than "newer" when considering compiling from source or using 3rd party repos.00:21
kgb&& ty :)00:32
* kgb tries 2 write down all of the b0t CMDs00:32
kgberr Unit193 there's a web page w/b0t CMDs?00:32
kgbhttp://ubottu.com/guide/ ??00:33
Unit193http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi or you /msg ubottu search blah00:33
kgbdanke!..:)00:33
popolonhi00:51
popolonis there a mean to shutdown the wifi ?00:51
popolonhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/117393900:56
popolonhuhu00:56
ubottuUbuntu bug 1173939 in linux (Ubuntu) "[EeePc 1001ha] WiFi Hotkey (Fn-F2) not working on xubuntu 13.04" [Medium,Incomplete]00:56
popolonok, no support possible :(00:56
popolonbye00:56
David-Apopolon: not so fast, you can probably map that function to another key00:58
edagoHi, I'm looking for help to install Xubuntu in a Macbook air 1.103:53
gdosanyone here use dhelp and or dwww? (online, browser-based help systems for viewing man pages)  - according to dwww man page - http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/dwww.8.html - there is supposed to be a 'apache2.conf' file in '/etc/dwww' and symbolically linked from /etc/apache*/conf.d/dwww but there is neither a file or a symbolically linked file in /etc/dwww NOR /etc/apache2/conf.d and /var/lib/dwww appears empty. suggestions?04:43
Unit193http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/all/dwww/filelist it's on conf-available, needs to be in -enabled.04:56
Unit193Heh, forgot I had man2html installed. :P04:59
xubuntu990.05:42
xubuntu990wow xubuntu05:43
baizon:)05:43
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nicklas_hello, i think there is a bug in the new xubuntu. when i ran the live xubuntu 13.10 64 bit, the volume applet in panel shows its on mute, and when i click it, i get an empty little white line. i thought it would get fixed after installing, but its still the same after doing all updates. i still have sound though, checked with youtube. so how to fix this?08:04
Proshoti have a strange problem, is there a difference between the cofiguration of the xserver on xubuntu and ubuntu, or are there other things different which could explain that video playback with smplayer on xubuntu gives me some strange glitches if like my video playback is splited for a split second, also panning movements seems to render very ugly.08:21
Proshototherwise i am very happy with xubuntu :)08:22
Proshotbrb, have to reboot08:27
Proshotso back, i found out the problem, my video playback becomes choppy when i enable compositing in xubuntu09:10
xabsterHi, I got a 2 TB external USB harddrive. I'd like to put a .iso on it for booting from it. Can you tell me how?09:46
xabsterI tried with unetbootin but when i try to boot from the drive it won't get past the first screen which says "default" as the only option and a 10 sec countdown that just keeps going back to 10 once it hits 009:46
xabsterand winusb does not detect the drive09:46
HookI just wanted to say... I love Xubuntu. And coffe10:15
ochosiHook: +110:17
Proshotoke, i solved all my problems in xubuntu, i love it i must say, had to downgrade the google-chromium flash10:24
xubuntu353\help11:08
bgardnerxubuntu353: Ask your question and we'll do our best.11:09
xubuntu353hello11:09
cfhowlett!ask|xubuntu353,   crystal ball is broken.  You're going to have to provide some details.11:10
ubottuxubuntu353,   crystal ball is broken.  You're going to have to provide some details.: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience11:10
Guest25922hi. trying xubuntu13.10 using liveusb on p4 with intel graphics controller 82865g. the working is smooth but the graphics are not.. the desktop looks like this. http://s9.postimg.org/5wf2wi59r/Screenshot_10232013_11_44_53_AM.png how do i install or activate the appropriate driver? also posted on ubuntu channel got no reply so here.11:51
tomreynhey there, i just upgraded to 13.10 and now the volume indicator in the message/notification area doesn't work.11:57
cubtomreyn, yeah it's a known bug unfortunately11:57
tomreynthanks cub, do you have a bug id?11:57
cubgot a workaround for it...11:58
tomreyni'm using the separate volume panel element now11:58
cubbug 1208204 and http://askubuntu.com/questions/360806/volume-indicator-issue-after-xubuntu-13-10-upgrade11:58
ubottubug 1208204 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120820411:58
tomreynthanks again.and oops, it's actually in the release notes' "known bugs". should have checked there first...12:12
raidhi, i just upgraded to 13.10 and my xubuntu won't boot, it just drops me to a GRUB shell :?14:13
GridCuberaid, can you get an external boot media like an usb? you can try to make a booteable usb and use boot-repair14:18
gdosanyone here use dhelp and or dwww? (online, browser-based help systems for viewing man pages)  - according to dwww man page - http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/dwww.8.html - there is supposed to be a 'apache2.conf' file in '/etc/dwww' and symbolically linked from /etc/apache*/conf.d/dwww but there is neither a file or a symbolically linked file in /etc/dwww NOR /etc/apache2/conf.d and /var/lib/dwww appears empty. HELP?14:25
raidGridCube: thx, will try that14:38
bgardnerI've been trying to figure this out myself and I just can't.  For 23-30 seconds after login, all keystrokes under Settings->Keyboard->Application Shortcuts do not respond.  At the end of the 23-30 second delay, any keys pressed during that time do what you expect, all at once (e.g. Push Ctrl-Alt-T 5 times to open a terminal window, at the end of the delay five windows open).  I have multiple Xubuntu workstations (a mix of Quantal14:49
bgardnerand Raring) that all exhibit this behavior.  Note: Keystrokes under Settings->Window Manager->Keyboard do NOT exhibit this behavior, and work instantly on login.14:49
brainwashbgardner: yeah, I know what it causing this behavior, let me link my reports..14:53
brainwashbug 123901414:54
ubottubug 1239014 in xfce4-settings (Ubuntu) "xfsettingsd unable to daemonize properly when overlay scrollbars are activated" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123901414:54
brainwashbug 123901814:54
ubottubug 1239018 in xfce4 (Ubuntu) "Disable overlay scrollbars by default in Xubuntu 13.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123901814:54
bgardnerThanks much brainwash, I appreciate it!14:55
brainwashyou're welcome, but I doubt that anything will be done to prevent this (see 2nd report) or even fix it somehow14:57
bgardnerbrainwash: To be perfectly honest, I'm mostly happy to know WHY it was happening.  It makes me feel better to know the root cause.14:58
brainwashyeah, took me some hours to find the culprit14:59
brainwashstill no clue, why it is happening15:00
bgardnerbrainwash: I tested the workaround (add to /etc/X11/Xsession.d) you noted in the notes and it works great - is there any reason why I wouldn't want to keep this?15:09
gdoswhen i ran 'sudo apt-get purge dwww' i get the following message: W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy/main amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_saucy_main_binary-amd64_Packages) and here is a my /etc/apt/sources.list file: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6289802/16:14
gdosi don't see the duplicate.16:14
GridCubegdos, try an autoremove and an autoclean16:32
phooHello all!  Anyone know of a solution to xscreensaver sometimes dying?  It doesn't crash X like I keep finding online, it's just xscreensaver will die and my screens will unlock.  Then, clicking on "lock screen" again does nothing because the screensaver isn't working.  This is xubuntu 13.10 with two dual nvidia cards Quadro FX 580  (four displays) using NVIDIA driver version 319.32, which was the one listed as "tested" during xubuntu 13.04 LTS inst17:26
phooall.17:26
phoothe screensaver I'm using is GLslideshow.17:27
baizonphoo: 12.04 or 13.04? because 13.04 wasn't LTS17:28
phoofabulous question.  I'm actually not 100% sure now because I know I meant to download the LTS and I believe that's what I ...  Hold on.17:29
phooof course I deleted the iso from my old drive.  I'll see if I can find out from mounting the disc.17:30
phoo(confusion because I meant to get 12.04 LTS but then think I saw 13.04 later... I do know I'm running 13.10 now if that's an indicator.)17:31
phoomeh.  Yeah, I downloaded 13.04 according to volume label on the dvd.  :shrug:17:32
dont-panicHow do you change which browser opens links from the terminal?17:34
dont-panicI tried to change it in ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list or whatever, but that didn't seem to work17:34
Sysisettings -> preferred applications17:35
Sysisettings manager that is17:35
dont-panicSysi: that already is set to chromium17:39
dont-panicit keeps opening the links in firefox, but  i only use firefox for one thing and chromium for everything else17:39
Sysiugh I remember that happening.. but how did I fix it17:40
dont-panicI've been googling like crazy but can't seem to find anything... It wouldn't have anything to do with terminators settings would it?17:41
SysiI don't know about terminator, but removing some line from mimeapps.list was what did it for me17:42
dont-panicSysi: you don't have to do anything to make it recognize the changes in mimeapps.list do you?17:43
dont-panicalso what does it say for your x-scheme-handling/http= line and https= line?17:44
SysiI don't think so, but you can try logging out and back in17:44
SysiI'm not on xfce right now17:44
dont-panicSysi: trying to avoid that... I'm not on xfce either17:44
dont-panicSysi: is this something the window manager handles?17:44
SysiI think I had 2 lines for x-scheme-handler when I had the problem17:45
dont-panicmaybe that's why... I'm using awesome wm17:45
Sysidont-panic: it should be exo, but I'm not sure if that's the case outside xfce4-terminal17:45
dont-panicyeah,  I changed mine to say chromium-browser.desktop and cp'd the chromium-browser.desktop file to that directory17:47
dont-panicnot sure why that doesn't work17:47
Poisoned_Dragonwhat distro are you running awesome wm on?17:48
Sysi/topic17:48
Poisoned_DragonI'm just asking to see if it's xubuntu. Then he can run exo-preferred-applications17:50
Poisoned_DragonSet the browser there17:50
Sysihe's done that, doesn't work17:51
Poisoned_DragonAh, too bad17:52
dont-panicyeah, its xubuntu, but xfce4-desktop, xfce4-panel, and xfwm4 have been killed and I'm running awesome wm instaead18:03
templerhi there i use evolution in xubuntu 12.04 but it won't print to my network printer had the same problem using document viewer but installing acrobat reader fixed that for pdfs anyone have any ideas why this is19:23
XenoXhi20:29
KeyboardNotFoundMy xubuntu after upgradint to 13.10 is very very slow, why ?20:30
KeyboardNotFoundI have 1gb ram20:30
KeyboardNotFoundand every time it's used 50% but i haven't runned anyone app20:30
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dtcrshrhello everyone! I recently installed xubuntu, and i noticed it has this mac alike thing with some shortcuts on the lower part of the screen. I didnt found whre to change  / edit the icons and shortcuts on this bar, how do I do that?21:13
buudtcrshr: Did you try right clicking it?21:26
buuOr going to settings -> panels ?21:26
dtcrshrbuu:  right clicking affects only the icon im right clickin21:42
dtcrshrtheres no border to manage the settings21:43
dtcrshrill search on the settings21:43
dtcrshrsettings panel only affect the upper pannel21:43
dtcrshrsorry, theres a panel dropdown, i think its it21:44
dtcrshrthanks!21:44
dtcrshrvery nice... its running like a charm22:08
dtcrshrbut.. flash (youtube I used to test) works fine on firefox, but only a black box on chromium22:08
dtcrshris there a way to install flash system wide?22:09
koegsdtcrshr: how did you install flash?22:11
dtcrshrkoegs: i didnt22:12
dtcrshrfresh xubuntu install22:12
dtcrshronly after installed I made a apt-=get update / upgrade22:13
dtcrshrand rebooted when asked22:13
koegsthen please try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash22:13
dtcrshrnice. after a reboot the flash worked on both browsers. Now I oppened dota 2 via steam and the performance was very dissapoiting, so I followed this instructions on intel graphics - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve#Intel_Graphics22:23
dtcrshrbut now the x server wont load. on ctrl alt f7 i have this line "could not write bytes: broken pipe"22:23
dtcrshri uses these 3 lines22:24
dtcrshrsudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates22:24
dtcrshr  sudo apt-get update22:24
dtcrshr  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade22:24
dtcrshrwhere is xubuntu xorg.conf file so I can put the mesa driver to test?22:28
tmallenhi, how do i upgrade to 13.10? i do dist-upgrade but it says i am up to date22:28
brainwashdtcrshr: there is none, unless you create one22:30
dtcrshryeah.. I created one it worked on mesa22:30
dtcrshrtoo bad i cannot have good performance though22:31
brainwashit's an intel gpu after all22:31
dtcrshryeah... cant get milk from the rocks22:31
dtcrshrbut on windows its kinda playable22:31
dtcrshrwith the lowest res22:31
dtcrshrit could be better, ill read some more about this intel mobile 4 series22:32
brainwashouch, that's low end22:32
dont-panicthat's why I play zsnes games, or write some with the lua love engine22:32
brainwashtry asking in #ubuntu-steam for some tips22:32
dtcrshrbrainwash: its a 2 year bouth acer laptop, im on brasil22:33
tmallenoh, software updater finds this. weird that dist-upgrade doesn't, but i'm all set. thanks anyway22:33
dtcrshrhmm nice, im on #steamlug but didnt know about this other channel22:33
dtcrshrthanks for the attention koegs and brainwash22:33
brainwashdtcrshr: so don't expect any miracles22:33
dtcrshrso much love22:33
brainwash:P22:33
dont-panicI wish there was a library pack you could get for steam that fixed most common issues22:34
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seronisQ: been getting gpu lockups in xorg since 13.10 update somewhat randomly. what exactly can i do to help get the new bug fixed ?23:14
legg1Why are the FreeNode ops so easily emotionally hurt?23:19
legg1havent seen this kind of hurt since QuakeNet in the CS-days :o23:20
Picilegg1: uh.. what?23:21
legg1Pici, not saying it's "a normal thing", but, people with no direct link to what they represent (BitCoin), seem to jump on the banhammer so fast, they throw up23:22
legg1Freenode so far seems great, but there are some people who should not be allowed any moderator rights23:22
Picilegg1: Well, I'm not sure what that has to do with #xubuntu23:23
legg1It doesnt23:23
legg1but we're still on the same network23:23
legg1was just a general question23:23

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