[00:08] <kgb> guys, is there a (specific?) reason why the kernel isn't the latest?!?? https://www.kernel.org/ says 3.11.6 && Saucy says: 3.11.0-12-generic
[00:08] <kgb> or am I missing something :-0
[00:08] <Poisoned_Dragon> um... that's just typical.
[00:08] <Poisoned_Dragon> 3.11.0 is the kernel release for 13.10
[00:08] <kgb> Poisoned_Dragon: u talking to me?.. help me out, pls. :-)
[00:09] <Poisoned_Dragon> You're welcome to update the kernel yourself, if you're savvy.
[00:09] <kgb> is there a PPA, or a reason why the kernel is lagging behind? o.0
[00:09] <kgb> *official ppa, ofc.
[00:09] <Pici> !latest
[00:09] <Poisoned_Dragon> It's never the latest kernel, unless you want it to be that way.
[00:09] <xyzone> 3.10 is a lts kernel, 3.11 isnt
[00:10] <kgb> xyzone: pretend i'm ignorant, pls - and let me know y this is so?..
[00:10] <xyzone> kgb, that's how the linux kernel is being released
[00:10] <Poisoned_Dragon> If you really want to use the latest kernel, The folks over at #ubuntu+1 might be more helpful.
[00:11] <Pici> No they won't.
[00:11] <Poisoned_Dragon> really?
[00:11] <Poisoned_Dragon> I thought they would be the ones tinkering with new things
[00:11] <Pici> The 14.04 toolchain was just released, 14.04 looks just like 13.10 right now.
[00:11] <Poisoned_Dragon> Oh... too bad
[00:12] <Poisoned_Dragon> thanks for the info, Pici
[00:12] <Pici> np
[00:12] <kgb> so is there a general reason, for not having a closer-to-newest kernel?
[00:13] <kgb> like video, or something :p
[00:13] <kgb> * o:
[00:13] <kgb> (sry didn't mean to type ":P")
[00:16] <Pici> !latest | kgb
[00:17] <kgb> gotcha, tnx
[00:21] <Unit193> !highno
[00:32] <kgb> && ty :)
[00:32]  * kgb tries 2 write down all of the b0t CMDs
[00:32] <kgb> err Unit193 there's a web page w/b0t CMDs?
[00:33] <kgb> http://ubottu.com/guide/ ??
[00:33] <Unit193> http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi or you /msg ubottu search blah
[00:33] <kgb> danke!..:)
[00:51] <popolon> hi
[00:51] <popolon> is there a mean to shutdown the wifi ?
[00:56] <popolon> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1173939
[00:56] <popolon> huhu
[00:56] <popolon> ok, no support possible :(
[00:56] <popolon> bye
[00:58] <David-A> popolon: not so fast, you can probably map that function to another key
[03:53] <edago> Hi, I'm looking for help to install Xubuntu in a Macbook air 1.1
[04:43] <gdos> anyone here use dhelp and or dwww? (online, browser-based help systems for viewing man pages)  - according to dwww man page - http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/dwww.8.html - there is supposed to be a 'apache2.conf' file in '/etc/dwww' and symbolically linked from /etc/apache*/conf.d/dwww but there is neither a file or a symbolically linked file in /etc/dwww NOR /etc/apache2/conf.d and /var/lib/dwww appears empty. suggestions?
[04:56] <Unit193> http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/all/dwww/filelist it's on conf-available, needs to be in -enabled.
[04:59] <Unit193> Heh, forgot I had man2html installed. :P
[05:42] <xubuntu990> .
[05:43] <xubuntu990> wow xubuntu
[05:43] <baizon> :)
[08:04] <nicklas_> hello, i think there is a bug in the new xubuntu. when i ran the live xubuntu 13.10 64 bit, the volume applet in panel shows its on mute, and when i click it, i get an empty little white line. i thought it would get fixed after installing, but its still the same after doing all updates. i still have sound though, checked with youtube. so how to fix this?
[08:21] <Proshot> i have a strange problem, is there a difference between the cofiguration of the xserver on xubuntu and ubuntu, or are there other things different which could explain that video playback with smplayer on xubuntu gives me some strange glitches if like my video playback is splited for a split second, also panning movements seems to render very ugly.
[08:22] <Proshot> otherwise i am very happy with xubuntu :)
[08:27] <Proshot> brb, have to reboot
[09:10] <Proshot> so back, i found out the problem, my video playback becomes choppy when i enable compositing in xubuntu
[09:46] <xabster> Hi, I got a 2 TB external USB harddrive. I'd like to put a .iso on it for booting from it. Can you tell me how?
[09:46] <xabster> I tried with unetbootin but when i try to boot from the drive it won't get past the first screen which says "default" as the only option and a 10 sec countdown that just keeps going back to 10 once it hits 0
[09:46] <xabster> and winusb does not detect the drive
[10:15] <Hook> I just wanted to say... I love Xubuntu. And coffe
[10:17] <ochosi> Hook: +1
[10:24] <Proshot> oke, i solved all my problems in xubuntu, i love it i must say, had to downgrade the google-chromium flash
[11:08] <xubuntu353> \help
[11:09] <bgardner> xubuntu353: Ask your question and we'll do our best.
[11:09] <xubuntu353> hello
[11:10] <cfhowlett> !ask|xubuntu353,   crystal ball is broken.  You're going to have to provide some details.
[11:51] <Guest25922> hi. trying xubuntu13.10 using liveusb on p4 with intel graphics controller 82865g. the working is smooth but the graphics are not.. the desktop looks like this. http://s9.postimg.org/5wf2wi59r/Screenshot_10232013_11_44_53_AM.png how do i install or activate the appropriate driver? also posted on ubuntu channel got no reply so here.
[11:57] <tomreyn> hey there, i just upgraded to 13.10 and now the volume indicator in the message/notification area doesn't work.
[11:57] <cub> tomreyn, yeah it's a known bug unfortunately
[11:57] <tomreyn> thanks cub, do you have a bug id?
[11:58] <cub> got a workaround for it...
[11:58] <tomreyn> i'm using the separate volume panel element now
[11:58] <cub> bug 1208204 and http://askubuntu.com/questions/360806/volume-indicator-issue-after-xubuntu-13-10-upgrade
[12:12] <tomreyn> thanks again.and oops, it's actually in the release notes' "known bugs". should have checked there first...
[14:13] <raid> hi, i just upgraded to 13.10 and my xubuntu won't boot, it just drops me to a GRUB shell :?
[14:18] <GridCube> raid, can you get an external boot media like an usb? you can try to make a booteable usb and use boot-repair
[14:25] <gdos> anyone here use dhelp and or dwww? (online, browser-based help systems for viewing man pages)  - according to dwww man page - http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/dwww.8.html - there is supposed to be a 'apache2.conf' file in '/etc/dwww' and symbolically linked from /etc/apache*/conf.d/dwww but there is neither a file or a symbolically linked file in /etc/dwww NOR /etc/apache2/conf.d and /var/lib/dwww appears empty. HELP?
[14:38] <raid> GridCube: thx, will try that
[14:49] <bgardner> I've been trying to figure this out myself and I just can't.  For 23-30 seconds after login, all keystrokes under Settings->Keyboard->Application Shortcuts do not respond.  At the end of the 23-30 second delay, any keys pressed during that time do what you expect, all at once (e.g. Push Ctrl-Alt-T 5 times to open a terminal window, at the end of the delay five windows open).  I have multiple Xubuntu workstations (a mix of Quantal
[14:49] <bgardner> and Raring) that all exhibit this behavior.  Note: Keystrokes under Settings->Window Manager->Keyboard do NOT exhibit this behavior, and work instantly on login.
[14:53] <brainwash> bgardner: yeah, I know what it causing this behavior, let me link my reports..
[14:54] <brainwash> bug 1239014
[14:54] <brainwash> bug 1239018
[14:55] <bgardner> Thanks much brainwash, I appreciate it!
[14:57] <brainwash> you're welcome, but I doubt that anything will be done to prevent this (see 2nd report) or even fix it somehow
[14:58] <bgardner> brainwash: To be perfectly honest, I'm mostly happy to know WHY it was happening.  It makes me feel better to know the root cause.
[14:59] <brainwash> yeah, took me some hours to find the culprit
[15:00] <brainwash> still no clue, why it is happening
[15:09] <bgardner> brainwash: I tested the workaround (add to /etc/X11/Xsession.d) you noted in the notes and it works great - is there any reason why I wouldn't want to keep this?
[16:14] <gdos> when i ran 'sudo apt-get purge dwww' i get the following message: W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy/main amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_saucy_main_binary-amd64_Packages) and here is a my /etc/apt/sources.list file: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6289802/
[16:14] <gdos> i don't see the duplicate.
[16:32] <GridCube> gdos, try an autoremove and an autoclean
[17:26] <phoo> Hello all!  Anyone know of a solution to xscreensaver sometimes dying?  It doesn't crash X like I keep finding online, it's just xscreensaver will die and my screens will unlock.  Then, clicking on "lock screen" again does nothing because the screensaver isn't working.  This is xubuntu 13.10 with two dual nvidia cards Quadro FX 580  (four displays) using NVIDIA driver version 319.32, which was the one listed as "tested" during xubuntu 13.04 LTS inst
[17:26] <phoo> all.
[17:27] <phoo> the screensaver I'm using is GLslideshow.
[17:28] <baizon> phoo: 12.04 or 13.04? because 13.04 wasn't LTS
[17:29] <phoo> fabulous question.  I'm actually not 100% sure now because I know I meant to download the LTS and I believe that's what I ...  Hold on.
[17:30] <phoo> of course I deleted the iso from my old drive.  I'll see if I can find out from mounting the disc.
[17:31] <phoo> (confusion because I meant to get 12.04 LTS but then think I saw 13.04 later... I do know I'm running 13.10 now if that's an indicator.)
[17:32] <phoo> meh.  Yeah, I downloaded 13.04 according to volume label on the dvd.  :shrug:
[17:34] <dont-panic> How do you change which browser opens links from the terminal?
[17:34] <dont-panic> I tried to change it in ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list or whatever, but that didn't seem to work
[17:35] <Sysi> settings -> preferred applications
[17:35] <Sysi> settings manager that is
[17:39] <dont-panic> Sysi: that already is set to chromium
[17:39] <dont-panic> it keeps opening the links in firefox, but  i only use firefox for one thing and chromium for everything else
[17:40] <Sysi> ugh I remember that happening.. but how did I fix it
[17:41] <dont-panic> I've been googling like crazy but can't seem to find anything... It wouldn't have anything to do with terminators settings would it?
[17:42] <Sysi> I don't know about terminator, but removing some line from mimeapps.list was what did it for me
[17:43] <dont-panic> Sysi: you don't have to do anything to make it recognize the changes in mimeapps.list do you?
[17:44] <dont-panic> also what does it say for your x-scheme-handling/http= line and https= line?
[17:44] <Sysi> I don't think so, but you can try logging out and back in
[17:44] <Sysi> I'm not on xfce right now
[17:44] <dont-panic> Sysi: trying to avoid that... I'm not on xfce either
[17:44] <dont-panic> Sysi: is this something the window manager handles?
[17:45] <Sysi> I think I had 2 lines for x-scheme-handler when I had the problem
[17:45] <dont-panic> maybe that's why... I'm using awesome wm
[17:45] <Sysi> dont-panic: it should be exo, but I'm not sure if that's the case outside xfce4-terminal
[17:47] <dont-panic> yeah,  I changed mine to say chromium-browser.desktop and cp'd the chromium-browser.desktop file to that directory
[17:47] <dont-panic> not sure why that doesn't work
[17:48] <Poisoned_Dragon> what distro are you running awesome wm on?
[17:48] <Sysi> /topic
[17:50] <Poisoned_Dragon> I'm just asking to see if it's xubuntu. Then he can run exo-preferred-applications
[17:50] <Poisoned_Dragon> Set the browser there
[17:51] <Sysi> he's done that, doesn't work
[17:52] <Poisoned_Dragon> Ah, too bad
[18:03] <dont-panic> yeah, its xubuntu, but xfce4-desktop, xfce4-panel, and xfwm4 have been killed and I'm running awesome wm instaead
[19:23] <templer> hi there i use evolution in xubuntu 12.04 but it won't print to my network printer had the same problem using document viewer but installing acrobat reader fixed that for pdfs anyone have any ideas why this is
[20:29] <XenoX> hi
[20:30] <KeyboardNotFound> My xubuntu after upgradint to 13.10 is very very slow, why ?
[20:30] <KeyboardNotFound> I have 1gb ram
[20:30] <KeyboardNotFound> and every time it's used 50% but i haven't runned anyone app
[21:13] <dtcrshr> hello everyone! I recently installed xubuntu, and i noticed it has this mac alike thing with some shortcuts on the lower part of the screen. I didnt found whre to change  / edit the icons and shortcuts on this bar, how do I do that?
[21:26] <buu> dtcrshr: Did you try right clicking it?
[21:26] <buu> Or going to settings -> panels ?
[21:42] <dtcrshr> buu:  right clicking affects only the icon im right clickin
[21:43] <dtcrshr> theres no border to manage the settings
[21:43] <dtcrshr> ill search on the settings
[21:43] <dtcrshr> settings panel only affect the upper pannel
[21:44] <dtcrshr> sorry, theres a panel dropdown, i think its it
[21:44] <dtcrshr> thanks!
[22:08] <dtcrshr> very nice... its running like a charm
[22:08] <dtcrshr> but.. flash (youtube I used to test) works fine on firefox, but only a black box on chromium
[22:09] <dtcrshr> is there a way to install flash system wide?
[22:11] <koegs> dtcrshr: how did you install flash?
[22:12] <dtcrshr> koegs: i didnt
[22:12] <dtcrshr> fresh xubuntu install
[22:13] <dtcrshr> only after installed I made a apt-=get update / upgrade
[22:13] <dtcrshr> and rebooted when asked
[22:13] <koegs> then please try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash
[22:23] <dtcrshr> nice. after a reboot the flash worked on both browsers. Now I oppened dota 2 via steam and the performance was very dissapoiting, so I followed this instructions on intel graphics - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve#Intel_Graphics
[22:23] <dtcrshr> but now the x server wont load. on ctrl alt f7 i have this line "could not write bytes: broken pipe"
[22:24] <dtcrshr> i uses these 3 lines
[22:24] <dtcrshr> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[22:24] <dtcrshr>   sudo apt-get update
[22:24] <dtcrshr>   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:28] <dtcrshr> where is xubuntu xorg.conf file so I can put the mesa driver to test?
[22:28] <tmallen> hi, how do i upgrade to 13.10? i do dist-upgrade but it says i am up to date
[22:30] <brainwash> dtcrshr: there is none, unless you create one
[22:30] <dtcrshr> yeah.. I created one it worked on mesa
[22:31] <dtcrshr> too bad i cannot have good performance though
[22:31] <brainwash> it's an intel gpu after all
[22:31] <dtcrshr> yeah... cant get milk from the rocks
[22:31] <dtcrshr> but on windows its kinda playable
[22:31] <dtcrshr> with the lowest res
[22:32] <dtcrshr> it could be better, ill read some more about this intel mobile 4 series
[22:32] <brainwash> ouch, that's low end
[22:32] <dont-panic> that's why I play zsnes games, or write some with the lua love engine
[22:32] <brainwash> try asking in #ubuntu-steam for some tips
[22:33] <dtcrshr> brainwash: its a 2 year bouth acer laptop, im on brasil
[22:33] <tmallen> oh, software updater finds this. weird that dist-upgrade doesn't, but i'm all set. thanks anyway
[22:33] <dtcrshr> hmm nice, im on #steamlug but didnt know about this other channel
[22:33] <dtcrshr> thanks for the attention koegs and brainwash
[22:33] <brainwash> dtcrshr: so don't expect any miracles
[22:33] <dtcrshr> so much love
[22:33] <brainwash> :P
[22:34] <dont-panic> I wish there was a library pack you could get for steam that fixed most common issues
[23:14] <seronis> Q: been getting gpu lockups in xorg since 13.10 update somewhat randomly. what exactly can i do to help get the new bug fixed ?
[23:19] <legg1> Why are the FreeNode ops so easily emotionally hurt?
[23:20] <legg1> havent seen this kind of hurt since QuakeNet in the CS-days :o
[23:21] <Pici> legg1: uh.. what?
[23:22] <legg1> Pici, not saying it's "a normal thing", but, people with no direct link to what they represent (BitCoin), seem to jump on the banhammer so fast, they throw up
[23:22] <legg1> Freenode so far seems great, but there are some people who should not be allowed any moderator rights
[23:23] <Pici> legg1: Well, I'm not sure what that has to do with #xubuntu
[23:23] <legg1> It doesnt
[23:23] <legg1> but we're still on the same network
[23:23] <legg1> was just a general question