[00:36] <wr3d> hi all
[00:36] <wr3d> does anyone know how to enable appmenu in GTK apps?
[01:31] <kubuntu> hi
[01:32] <Guest36879> hello?
[03:38] <vertago1> anyone here use xpra?
[04:00] <yalex> Hello are there any additional packages I need to install to get mtp working in kubuntu? I'm trying to access a Samsung Galaxy S3
[04:25] <MangaKaDenza> Allright, here's the deal
[04:25] <MangaKaDenza> So, I accidentally closed my netbook while it was still running, in a ubuntu DE
[04:25] <MangaKaDenza> then, when I opened it back up, the networking was down...
[04:25] <MangaKaDenza> so I rebooted...
[04:26] <MangaKaDenza> after I chose kubuntu from the grub, it just stays at the glowy kubuntu logo
[04:26] <MangaKaDenza> can someone tell me how to fix that?
[04:31] <valorie> MangaKaDenza: sounds like you have a messed-up session
[04:31] <valorie> you'll probably have to reboot
[04:31] <MangaKaDenza> ...I did...
[04:31] <valorie> oh, oops
[04:32] <valorie> bad reading on my part
[04:32] <valorie> have you booted into Kub successfully in the past?
[04:32] <MangaKaDenza> yep
[04:32] <MangaKaDenza> manymany times
[04:33] <valorie> and what version are you running?
[04:34] <MangaKaDenza> 13.10
[04:35] <valorie> hmmmm
[04:35] <valorie> i've had really good luck with this release
[04:36] <valorie> I guess what i would do in your place is use a console to mv ~/.kde ~/kde-old
[04:36] <valorie> and restart
[04:36] <valorie> then start moving stuff back, if that's successfull
[04:37] <valorie> it sounds to me like something was corrupted during sleep
[04:37] <MangaKaDenza> I guess so
[04:39] <MangaKaDenza> valorie, how do I disable cups ?
[04:39] <valorie> MangaKaDenza: I know that sounds a bit drastic, but I don't know enough to suggest anything else
[04:39] <valorie> consider the source
[04:40] <valorie> dunno, it's been years since I used cups
[04:45] <Addle> MangaKaDenza: The startup file is in /etc/init. If you just rename the relevant file so it doesn't end in .conf, it shouldn't start anymore.
[04:45] <MangaKaDenza> Addle, ... won't that not help me?
[04:46] <Addle> MangaKaDenza: Easy to undo, as well. Just rename it back.
[04:46] <yalex>  Hello are there any additional packages I need to install to get mtp working in kubuntu? I'm trying to access a Samsung Galaxy S3
[04:46] <MangaKaDenza> so... that would fix it?
[04:46] <Addle> MangaKaDenza: Not sure what you mean. Just answering "How do I disable cups?"
[04:46] <Addle> MangaKaDenza: Not sure about the other issue, though.
[04:47] <Addle> MangaKaDenza: I think if I had it get stuck like that, first I'd see if I can actually log in on a text console by hitting ALT+F1. Not sure that will work if you're stuck at the Kubuntu logo, though.
[04:47] <MangaKaDenza> er...
[04:48] <Addle> MangaKaDenza: If it dies before that, perhaps I'd try and get the bootup showing text as it boots instead of hiding it from me.
[04:48] <MangaKaDenza> how does one log in via text?
[04:48] <MangaKaDenza> also... it doesn't load the desktop manager
[04:48] <MangaKaDenza> window manager... thing
[04:48] <MangaKaDenza> like... the windows in kubuntu aren't framed
[04:48] <MangaKaDenza> but ubuntu and x are
[04:48] <Addle> MangaKaDenza: Well, assuming the system has booted that far (guessing not), just hitting ALT+F1 should switch to one.
[04:49] <MangaKaDenza> well, thats in the advanced options for kubuntu
[04:49] <Addle> Oh, I see. Then valorie's move the .kde files might be a good idea.
[04:49] <MangaKaDenza> when I boot in recovery mode
[04:49] <Addle> Ah
[04:50] <Addle> But when you're not booting in recovery, it just sits on the Kubuntu logo and never gets past it, right?
[04:50] <MangaKaDenza> yah
[04:50] <Addle> At that point, I'd be reviewing the log files to look for clues as to why it didn't boot, previously.
[04:51] <Addle> They'll be in /var/log.
[04:51] <MangaKaDenza> var/log ... which file then?
[04:51] <MangaKaDenza> boot?
[04:52] <Addle> Mostly dmesg, I'd say.
[04:53] <MangaKaDenza> there are four!
[04:53] <MangaKaDenza> o.o
[04:53] <MangaKaDenza> which one?
[04:53] <Addle> MangaKaDenza: Yeah, the logs get "rotated".
[04:54] <Addle> I believe the current boot would be dmesg, and the previous one, dmesg.0, and so on. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
[04:55] <Addle> The gzipped ones can be read with zless. e.g. zless dmesg.1.gz
[04:55] <MangaKaDenza> three is the latest one
[04:55] <MangaKaDenza> oh nvm
[04:57] <Addle> Ah, I guess it rotates the logs slightly differently than I thought. Good to know.
[04:57] <Addle> Well, the times/dates are obviously a good way to know. :)
[04:58] <MangaKaDenza> hmm... i don't see anyone
[04:58] <MangaKaDenza> er
[04:58] <MangaKaDenza> anything relevant
[04:59] <Addle> You can test out this going to a virtual console, BTW. In X, you use CTRL+ALT and then a function key representing which console you want. Generally, F1 to F6 are available text consoles, and F7 is where X windows sits.
[04:59] <Addle> However, outside of X, it's just ALT + the function key.
[04:59] <Addle> Anyways, generally useful info for debugging, so I thought I'd mention it.
[05:00] <MangaKaDenza> hmm...
[05:00] <MangaKaDenza> f1 gives me some simple looking page
[05:00] <MangaKaDenza> ther rest are just blinking cursors
[05:01] <Addle> It should have "Ubuntu 13.10 YOURHOSTNAMEHERE tty1" and a login prompt.
[05:01] <Addle> The others should have the same, but a different tty number for which console it is.
[05:01] <Addle> You can type your username and password there and login normally.
[05:01] <MangaKaDenza> they're all blank!
[05:01] <MangaKaDenza> wait.. so do that when booting?
[05:02] <Addle> Huh, maybe something to do with it being a recovery boot. I've never tried it, I admit.
[05:02] <Addle> That only works once the system is basically started.
[05:02] <MangaKaDenza> ah
[05:02] <MangaKaDenza> well, I'll try that in a bit
[05:02] <MangaKaDenza> thank you
[05:03] <Addle> Before that point, if you remove the kernel option for quiet (and I think splash), it should, I believe, show you the bootup messages as it goes instead of a pretty but uninformative Kubuntu logo.
[05:03] <Addle> Haven't done that in a while though. Let me look that up.
[05:04] <Addle> Yep, I'm right. If you temporarily remove "quiet" and "splash", it will show the bootup messages.
[05:05] <jalcine> you can see those messages with "dmesg"
[05:05] <Addle> If you can't see the GRUB menu when you first start, hold SHIFT. Then select the proper startup option, and hit e. Then find those two words and remove them, and boot.
[05:05] <Addle> Yep, that's what we were looking at in /var/log. He's in recovery, so he needs the ones from the previous boot.
[05:06] <Addle> (In another saved dmesg file)
[05:07] <MangaKaDenza> hmm
[05:10] <Addle> jalcine: For context, in normal boot, it sits at the Kubuntu logo and doesn't go on from there.
[05:12] <Addle> jalcine: He closed the lid of his laptop, and it didn't get out of sleep with a working network. Then he rebooted and it started doing that.
[05:59] <jalcine> I was curious with the new "compressed" memory thing in OS X Mavericks if Linux had something like that; and it looks like we have something that's been around for a while (of course)
[05:59] <jalcine> zram!
[05:59] <jalcine> It used be to compcache but I'm trying it here with my 8GB of RAM and it's just a bit faster.
[06:02] <Addle> jalcine: Neat. Wonder if that would help this laptop. It has a "massive" 1GB of RAM.
[06:03] <amichair> I'm on 13.10, getting a lot of window freezes of various applications (not only kde), mostly Chrome -the  window is totally frozen, but minimize+restore it and it's back to normal. Is this a known issue? NVidia drivers maybe?
[06:14] <Addle> amichair: Haven't heard of it. I have NVidia and it's running fine, if that helps. Latest drivers in the repo. Although I notice Firefox seems to sort of hang occasionally a bit longer than I remember. Like being unresponsive for 15 seconds or something. But not anywhere else.
[06:16] <amichair> Addle: I'm seeing something else I think. Total window freeze for individual app windows (not simultaneously). If I minimize+restore the window shows its new state, so it's as if the window display stops being painted (even though input apparently works, with no feedback)
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[06:17] <FloodBotK1> Master: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:17] <Guest65461> asd
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[06:19] <soee> someone can remind me the command to upgrade 13.04 -> 13.10 ?
[06:20] <Addle> soee: do-release-upgrade, iirc
[06:21] <Unit193> Yep.
[06:22] <soee> Addle, yes works :) thank you
[06:23] <Addle> soee: You're welcome :)
[06:32] <Addle> I wonder why the weather plasmoids sometimes lose the ability to get Environment Canada weather. Guessing a web site change. Sort of annoying.
[06:33] <jalcine> Addle: it probably can, I wanna do some benchmarks with it and try to "humanize" them
[06:33] <jalcine> Addle: I use yawp for my weather plasmoid
[06:34] <Addle> jalcine: Yep, I just started using it yesterday, but it just sits there at "yaWP is retrieving the list of cities from the internet, please wait".
[06:35] <Addle> jalcine: That's with Environment Canada, though. Other ones work. So I bet the web site change guess is right.
[06:35] <jalcine> hmm yeah might be the site
[06:55] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:31] <pider> hi cannot connect my Samsung Galaxy tab 10.1 to my Kubuntu pc using gMTP- Error: Detect:Unable to open raw device
[11:31] <jangrosicar> ej
[11:31] <jangrosicar> ej
[11:34] <lovrokomljanc> halo
[12:10] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[12:11] <vedu> its evening here
[12:11] <vedu> but anyway, good afternoon
[12:12] <lordievader> Hey vedu, how are you doing?
[12:13] <vedu> good. what about you
[12:15] <lordievader> Doing good too :)
[12:27] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:27] <MrFancyPants> I have long delays (about a minute) when logging in with ssh or sudoing
[13:27] <MrFancyPants> I suspect something about the PAMs being wrong
[13:29] <MrFancyPants> ah, got it, /etc/hosts needed the hostname to point to 127.0.1.1
[14:28] <ab3e> Hi, how do I resize notes I took on pdf files with okular ?? They are frigging huge in v 0.17.2
[14:29] <BluesKaj> ab3e. try ctrl  -
[14:31] <ab3e> BluesKaj: this does resize the pdf page itself. i however want to change the size of the note icon
[14:32] <BluesKaj> note icon? what do you mean ab3e ?
[14:37] <ab3e> In ocular one can add notes and comments to the pdf file. The Popup-Note is displayed in the pdf with a symbol which I want to adjust in size
[14:40] <BluesKaj> ab3e. sorry no idea , not much on google about it
[14:42] <ab3e> BluesKaj: hmm kk thanks, lets hope there is a okular specific irc channel
[14:44] <TSK> There does indeed appear to be a #okular
[16:21] <MangaKaDenza> Mentlegen... my KDE is broke...
[16:21] <MangaKaDenza> By that, I mean the applications work... kinda... but the... frame? (the top of the windows) don't work.
[16:23] <vedu> MangaKaDenza: did that happen after a update
[16:23] <MangaKaDenza> nope.avi
[16:23] <MangaKaDenza> its an interesting story... but I'll sum it up...
[16:24] <vedu> MangaKaDenza: ok
[16:24] <MangaKaDenza> I closed my netbook suddenly... in ubuntu DE, and then restarted due to lack of network, and after I rebooted, it was gone
[16:25] <MangaKaDenza> and yes, I did upgrade a few days ago to 13.10
[16:33] <myrti> heya
[16:34] <Guest64709> i have a question, recently installed kubuuntu 12.10.. most things work, but some things don't
[16:34] <MangaKaDenza> vedu, so...
[16:34] <Guest64709> notably the sound mixer in the taskbar and the hot-keys to increase/decrease sound do nothing
[16:35] <Guest64709> when I check alsamixer, I think the wrong device (?) is set to default HDA Intel MID instead of HDA Intel PCH
[16:35] <vedu> MangaKaDenza: I have no idea :(
[16:35] <MangaKaDenza> :<
[16:36] <Guest64709> when I change the device with F6 in alsamixer, i can then adjust the sound with alsamixer. How do I set HDA Intel PCH to default, so that I can also do this more simply with the hot-keys or the mixer in the taskbar?
[16:36] <Guest64709> (the hotkeys do work. I press them and I get the bar showing the sound volume increasing. Just that the sound volume really stays the same)
[16:49] <systemclient> After upgrade to Saucy, the Network Manager Applet does not work any more
[16:49] <MangaKadenza> systemclient, hmm
[16:50] <systemclient> if I call nmcli, I get the following output:
[16:50] <MangaKadenza> er. I'm assuming you're using an alt-comp
[16:50] <systemclient> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6295920/
[16:55] <systemclient> how can I fix network manager again? I cannot connect to any Wifi networks, now even with nmcli, but I need that
[17:04] <MangaKadenza> hmm
[17:04] <MangaKadenza> wait
[17:04] <MangaKadenza> how do I get rid of all kubuntu/kde files
[17:05] <MangaKadenza> that were downloaded during sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[17:05] <genii> Before Unity I think the factoid for that would have been !puregnome
[17:06] <genii> !puregnome
[17:15] <professor_> oi
[17:15] <professor_> oi
[17:15] <professor_> cuidado ai
[17:15] <lordievader> Hey professor_
[17:18] <systemclient> another thing broke with Saucy upgrade: I am not permitted to mount USB drives from the tray any more
[17:18] <systemclient> what is up with that? and how do I fix that?
[17:18] <systemclient> mounting manually with `sudo mount` works fine
[17:39] <systemclient> since network-manager, mounting and some of qdbus is broken after the Saucy upgrade, should I just reinstall?
[19:32] <lynx_> hi
[19:33] <lynx_> i have a question for file system
[19:38] <Guest64709> i have a question, recently installed kubuuntu 12.10.. most things work, but some things don't
[19:38] <Guest64709> notably the sound mixer in the taskbar and the hot-keys to increase/decrease sound do nothing
[19:38] <Guest64709> when I check alsamixer, I think the wrong device (?) is set to default HDA Intel MID instead of HDA Intel PCH
[19:38] <Guest64709> when I change the device with F6 in alsamixer, i can then adjust the sound with alsamixer. How do I set HDA Intel PCH to default, so that I can also do this more simply with the hot-keys or the mixer in the taskbar?
[19:38] <Guest64709> (the hotkeys do work. I press them and I get the bar showing the sound volume increasing. Just that the sound volume really stays the same)
[19:47] <ChogyDan> any pointers/resources on getting started with kubuntu?  I would like to have different icons on different desktops
[19:49] <ChogyDan> also, plasma crashed..  Should I report the bug through it's reporting dialog?
[19:49] <Guest64709> ChogyDan: right click the task bar, then panel options, then add widgets (i think) and then you can drag the stuff you want onto your desktop
[19:53] <ChogyDan> hmmm, it is just crashing now.  But thanks for the tip Guest64709
[21:53] <MangaKadenza> uh...
[21:53] <MangaKadenza> guys, how do I reset my kubuntu desktop environment?
[21:54] <genii> At login screen: ctrl-alt-F1 and login. Then: mv .kde .kde-old       then ctrl-alt-F7 back to login screen and login.
[21:56] <MangaKadenza> yeah... about that...
[21:56] <MangaKadenza> er
[21:56] <MangaKadenza> actually.. hmm
[22:17] <u19809> Hi all, I still run 12.10 precise and I wish to upgrade to the lastest version 13.10.  However my do-release-update says there is no upgrade path from precise to trusty... how can I proceed ?
[22:26] <starcraftman> u19809: Hi, Ubuntu only lets you directly upgrade to the next release. The easiest way to go directly to a later version is install from a cd the latest version. If you don't have a separate /home you need to back up and restore that after.
[22:27] <starcraftman> u19809: I might also comment that in general some people prefer to wait a while longer before going to latest in case of breakage/bugs.
[22:35] <u19809> no problem ... i already have breakages ;)  hence the need for upgrade ... problem is that I do not find how to select 12.10 then 13.04 and next 13.10 ... I run precise now ...
[22:58] <MangaKaDenza> mentlegen
[22:58] <MangaKaDenza> I have a rather specific request
[22:58] <MangaKaDenza> is there any easy way to make a program avalible for a certian time of day?
[22:58] <MangaKaDenza> for example
[22:58] <MangaKaDenza> I want to use hexchat between the hours of... 3-9 pm
[22:58] <MangaKaDenza> how do I does?
[23:04] <starcraftman> u19809: you don't need to select the version to upgrade to, if you do an upgrade it's always to the immediate next version (at least with the regular upgrade). So if you are on 12.04, doing upgrade will take to 12.10, you can upgrade again after that to 13.04 and so on.
[23:04] <MangaKaDenza> hellooo?
[23:04] <starcraftman> MangaKaDenza: Is that to prevent your own procrastination or managing other users?
[23:07] <u19809> thx .. upgrading now
[23:08] <MangaKaDenza> so...
[23:08] <MangaKaDenza> any ideas for timed programs?
[23:11] <starcraftman> MangaKaDenza: I'm not big on using ACL, but if you set a cron that toggles the particular users execute permission on the bin during the window would that do?
[23:11] <MangaKaDenza> ACL?
[23:12] <starcraftman> MangaKaDenza: Access control list, a more fine grained mechanism for controlling access to files.
[23:12] <starcraftman> If for say user x you removed execute permission for the program, he can't execute it.
[23:13] <starcraftman> MangaKaDenza: Wiki page > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissionsACLs
[23:14] <starcraftman> MangaKaDenza: are you technical enough to investigate that, or were you more looking for a gui program?
[23:17] <MangaKaDenza> starcraftman, I don't mind the allmighty command line
[23:17] <MangaKaDenza> but a gui program would be nice
[23:18] <Quest> my laptop sleeps after some inactivity time. how can i change that. using kde, kubuntu?
[23:18] <MangaKaDenza> Quest, fairly simple...
[23:18] <MangaKaDenza> click/leftclick the battery icon
[23:19] <MangaKaDenza> then click power settings
[23:19] <MangaKaDenza> it should be there
[23:19] <Quest> isnt
[23:19] <MangaKaDenza> hmm
[23:19] <MangaKaDenza> idk...
[23:20] <MangaKaDenza> it should be in a submenu of the main settings panel
[23:20] <Quest> ya. thats what I cant find..
[23:20] <MangaKaDenza> hmm
[23:21] <starcraftman> MangaKaDenza: well the CLI commands are setfacl and getfacl to set/get user permissions. The man pages pretty good. What destop environment are you using? Unity?
[23:21] <MangaKaDenza> starcraftman, Unity atm, and KDE when I fix it
[23:23] <starcraftman> MangaKaDenza: eiciel is a gui program for it. Extends nautilus to let you edit the acl lists.
[23:24] <starcraftman> MangaKaDenza: program is in the repos.
[23:27] <MangaKaDenza> wut
[23:28] <MangaKaDenza> python-beautifulsoup?
[23:35] <Quest> MangaKaDenza,   disable 'suspend session'?
[23:35] <MangaKaDenza> I guess so
[23:37] <Quest> k
[23:52] <MangaKaDenza> starcraftman, hmm
[23:53] <MangaKaDenza> where would the hexchat stuff be?
[23:57] <starcraftman> MangaKaDenza: I'm not familiar with that program, if you installed it to your system path it should be under /usr/bin, though that'd put it under root control and you'd need to sudo to modify its acl.
[23:58] <starcraftman> MangaKaDenza: If program is under /home or a user mounted drive, then sudo likely not required.
[23:59] <MangaKaDenza> starcraftman, is there a way to set a time in eiceil?