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| * slangasek waves | 15:04 | |
| * stgraber waves | 15:05 | |
| slangasek | sorry I'm late... fighting with a dying laptop this week :/ | 15:05 |
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| doko | hi | 15:05 |
| jodh | o/ | 15:05 |
| cjwatson | hi | 15:06 |
| slangasek | #startmeeting | 15:06 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Thu Oct 24 15:06:40 2013 UTC. The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 15:06 |
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| slangasek | [TOPIC] Lightning round | 15:06 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round | ||
| slangasek | $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh bdmurray slangasek cjwatson xnox stokachu) | 15:07 |
| slangasek | doko stgraber bdmurray jodh xnox cjwatson stokachu barry slangasek | 15:07 |
| slangasek | doko: you're first :) | 15:07 |
| doko | - archive opening | 15:08 |
| doko | - arm64 fixes | 15:08 |
| doko | - forwarded arm64 patches to Debian | 15:08 |
| doko | - scanned arm64 build logs and files bugs (only) in Debian | 15:08 |
| doko | - Linaro toolchain updates | 15:08 |
| doko | - MIR's, promotions, fixing ftbfs | 15:08 |
| doko | (done) | 15:08 |
| slangasek | doko: anything noteworthy in the Linaro toolchain updates? | 15:09 |
| doko | no, already had most of these changes | 15:10 |
| slangasek | ok | 15:10 |
| stgraber | (Once again didn't have time for a fancy weekly report, was busy fighting with graphviz) | 15:10 |
| stgraber | Ubuntu 13.10 release. | 15:10 |
| stgraber | Some help with 14.04 opening. | 15:10 |
| stgraber | Quite a few merges and help with ongoing transitions. | 15:10 |
| stgraber | Working on LXC upstream QA infrastructure, release 1.0~alpha2 and usual code reviews. | 15:10 |
| stgraber | Some debug work on Ubuntu Touch. | 15:10 |
| stgraber | (DONE) | 15:10 |
| bdmurray | bug triage (lots of release upgrade reports) | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | triage and SRU verification of bug 1241420 | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | tested ubiquity bug 1240683 | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | worked on a fix for apport bug 1084979 | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | fixed software-properties bug 1239893 | 15:11 |
| ubottu | bug 1241420 in libunity (Ubuntu Saucy) "unity held back if ubuntu-desktop is not installed during upgrade from raring to saucy (upgrade fails)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1241420 | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | prepared S SRUs for bug 1075537 and bug 1239893 | 15:11 |
| ubottu | bug 1240683 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu one login during install hangs" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1240683 | 15:11 |
| ubottu | bug 1084979 in apport (Ubuntu) "Submitting error report asks confounding questions" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1084979 | 15:11 |
| ubottu | bug 1239893 in software-properties (Ubuntu Saucy) "PPAs added using GUI Software and Updates have an extra space added to repository line" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1239893 | 15:11 |
| ubottu | bug 1075537 in software-properties (Ubuntu Saucy) "software-properties needs to automatically trigger a cache refresh after adding a repo" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1075537 | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | SRU verification of bug 1075537 | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | fixed ubuntu-release-upgrader bug 1241123, bug 1241660 | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | preparing an SRU upload fixing bug 1232363 | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | update metarelease file for saucy-updates and trusty | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | investigation into possible procps regresssion bug 1157643 | 15:11 |
| ubottu | bug 1241123 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Saucy) "lubuntu-desktop PostUpgradeRemove rule is unnecessary and problematic" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1241123 | 15:11 |
| ubottu | bug 1241660 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "DistUpgradeFetcherCore error messages not displayed" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1241660 | 15:11 |
| ubottu | bug 1232363 in update-manager (Ubuntu Saucy) "Update Manager Restart button fails on xubuntu" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1232363 | 15:11 |
| ubottu | bug 1157643 in procps (Ubuntu Trusty) "procps fail to start" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1157643 | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | updated the phased updater to ignore already installed and configured pkg install failures | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | updated rls- and isotesting reports for trusty | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | ✔ done | 15:12 |
| jodh | * Boot | 15:12 |
| jodh | - Fixed bug 1240686. | 15:12 |
| jodh | - Investigating overcoming ptrace limitations. | 15:12 |
| jodh | - Fixed minor Session Init-specific issue in 'initctl check-config'. | 15:12 |
| ubottu | bug 1240686 in upstart "Upstart overrides the user's umask" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1240686 | 15:12 |
| jodh | - Identified cause of bug 901038. | 15:12 |
| ubottu | bug 901038 in upstart (Ubuntu) "packages fail to install: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/901038 | 15:12 |
| jodh | - Wrote a fix for bug 1235649. | 15:12 |
| ubottu | bug 1235649 in upstart (Ubuntu) "uevent spam causes libdbus client code in session upstart to consume massive amounts of memory on Ubuntu Touch" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1235649 | 15:12 |
| jodh | https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesodhunt/upstart/bugs-1235649+1203595/+merge/191852 | 15:12 |
| jodh | Original solution was generic but suffered from an annoying | 15:12 |
| jodh | limitation. After discussions with slangasek, we now have a superior | 15:12 |
| jodh | (albeit very d-bus specific) solution that doesn't suffer from the | 15:12 |
| jodh | original fixes limitation. Currently working on the new solution. | 15:12 |
| jodh | - Raised new MP on salvaged new environ_remove() tests from MP above: | 15:12 |
| jodh | https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesodhunt/upstart/environ-remove-tests/+merge/192506 | 15:12 |
| jodh | - Raised a couple of boot-related blueprints for vUDS: | 15:12 |
| jodh | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1311-upstart-roadmap | 15:12 |
| jodh | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1311-boot-ui | 15:12 |
| jodh | * Other | 15:12 |
| jodh | - Wrote sosreport plugins for upstart and procenv (now merged - thanks | 15:12 |
| jodh | stokachu!) | 15:13 |
| jodh | ʄ | 15:13 |
| xnox | * release week was fun, saucy is out | 15:13 |
| xnox | * committed a few post-release bugfixes to ubiquity et.al. | 15:13 |
| xnox | * boost transition in-progress only a few things left to fix, and | 15:13 |
| xnox | waiting for powerpc to catch up. | 15:13 |
| xnox | * Working on emulator: | 15:13 |
| xnox | - build-your-own instructions are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Emulator | 15:13 |
| xnox | - packaging it into the archive atm, fighting it's build-machinery | 15:13 |
| xnox | to actually build everything from scratch and not use prebuilts | 15:13 |
| xnox | - fixup upstart socket bridge to not clober up PATH, it's built in | 15:13 |
| xnox | non-virt ppa will try adbd on ubuntu host bring up in the emulated | 15:14 |
| xnox | images today. | 15:14 |
| xnox | * ps tore my weak ligaments playing volleyball, so on crutches in bed | 15:14 |
| xnox | on painkillers at the moment. | 15:14 |
| xnox | * TODO: | 15:14 |
| xnox | - package/upload emulator | 15:14 |
| xnox | - get adbd working | 15:14 |
| xnox | - upstart code reviews | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | ow | 15:14 |
| xnox | - ubiquity code reviews (we have a massive merge proposal of | 15:14 |
| xnox | Autopilot driven installations) | 15:14 |
| xnox | .. | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | too much fun | 15:14 |
| barry | xnox: 404 | 15:14 |
| barry | xnox: er, 500 maybe | 15:14 |
| barry | finicky wiki | 15:15 |
| cjwatson | Helping to open trusty. | 15:15 |
| cjwatson | Coordinating ridiculously complex Perl 5.18 transition. Cleaning up loose ends now. | 15:15 |
| cjwatson | Writing some slide decks for client sprint. | 15:15 |
| cjwatson | Merges, merges, merges. And some build fixes on the side. | 15:15 |
| cjwatson | Band-aided bug 1242417. It's still all a mess. | 15:15 |
| ubottu | bug 1242417 in ubuntustudio-default-settings (Ubuntu Trusty) "UEFI install broken when GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR!=Ubuntu (e.g. Kubuntu/UbuntuStudio)" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1242417 | 15:15 |
| cjwatson | .. | 15:15 |
| slangasek | barry: your turn, I think | 15:18 |
| barry | slangasek: ah, no stokachu? | 15:18 |
| barry | anyway.. | 15:18 |
| barry | system-image: LP: #1221843; LP: #1238071; LP: #1240434; LP: #1243612; general bug triaging. LP: #1217098 - nearly done but having very weird problem with not seeing some signals from u-d-m. | 15:18 |
| barry | other: LP: #1242835. psutil merge from debian. dmb meeting. | 15:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1221843 in Ubuntu system image "Remove old channels.json format" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1221843 | 15:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1238071 in Ubuntu system image "Switch to nose2" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1238071 | 15:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1240434 in Ubuntu system image "System update UI shows 'last updated in 1970'" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1240434 | 15:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1243612 in system-image (Ubuntu) "system-image-cli does not allow to switch from saucy-proposed to trusty-proposed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1243612 | 15:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1217098 in Ubuntu system image "Avoid re-downloading data files" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1217098 | 15:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1242835 in Autopilot "Port autopilot script to Python 3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1242835 | 15:18 |
| barry | done | 15:18 |
| slangasek | well, I didn't hear anything from him, so I assume he's not here :) | 15:20 |
| slangasek | stokachu: you here? or are you sprinting? | 15:20 |
| slangasek | ok | 15:21 |
| slangasek | * prep for client sprint next week | 15:21 |
| slangasek | * fighting with a dying laptop... apparently time for a refresh whether I wanted it or not | 15:21 |
| slangasek | * working through my Debian merges for trusty | 15:21 |
| slangasek | * upstart MP reviews | 15:21 |
| slangasek | * working with xnox on getting goldfish into a usable state | 15:21 |
| slangasek | * SRU reviews for saucy (udev fix for maguro, bug #1234743) | 15:21 |
| ubottu | bug 1234743 in systemd (Ubuntu Trusty) "omapfb module floods system with udev events on samsung galaxy nexus" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1234743 | 15:21 |
| slangasek | (done) | 15:21 |
| slangasek | questions anywhere? | 15:21 |
| xnox | slangasek: are you getting Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Carbon? | 15:22 |
| xnox | =) | 15:22 |
| slangasek | xnox: it's one of the ones in the running right now :) | 15:22 |
| slangasek | xnox: do you want to steer me away from it? :) | 15:22 |
| xnox | slangasek: i think it's the way forward! take one with touch screen! | 15:23 |
| * xnox <3 unity8 | 15:23 | |
| slangasek | noted :) | 15:24 |
| slangasek | but this time, I'm going to get my plans cross-checked with the kernel team before I buy... failed to do that first with this one and it's given me no end of grief :P | 15:24 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] UDS blueprints | 15:24 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: UDS blueprints | ||
| slangasek | so UDS is coming up on November 19-21 | 15:24 |
| slangasek | we've been asked to get our blueprints in by the end of this month | 15:25 |
| slangasek | because with it being an online event, it seems that it's harder for people to schedule time when the sessions are moving around on the schedule at the last minute | 15:25 |
| slangasek | so a few people have already started registering their blueprints, which is good | 15:27 |
| slangasek | I'll have some more blueprints that I'll get in touch with people individually about getting on the schedule | 15:27 |
| slangasek | otherwise, please get blueprints registered for anything you think we need to talk about :) | 15:28 |
| slangasek | BTW, this time around there's going to be a Core track instead of a Foundations track | 15:28 |
| slangasek | no more running kernel sessions on the foundations track :-) | 15:28 |
| slangasek | any questions? | 15:28 |
| cjwatson | I wonder if there'll actually be any room for our slots :) | 15:28 |
| cjwatson | Who's running the core track? Alex? | 15:28 |
| cjwatson | (In terms of video operation and such) | 15:29 |
| slangasek | I expect it's the engineering managers running them | 15:29 |
| slangasek | the core track is officially expanded to two "rooms" fwiw | 15:29 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] AOB | 15:30 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB | ||
| slangasek | anything else? | 15:30 |
| slangasek | great work on 13.10, y'all, and on a speedy opening for trusty :) | 15:31 |
| bdmurray | I was wondering what the plan with bug 1069133 was, as lots of people upgrading ran into this issue. | 15:31 |
| ubottu | bug 1069133 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "Get upgrade error 12.04 - 12.10 "Could not determine upgrade" - xorg from ppa" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1069133 | 15:31 |
| barry | 13.10. that's so last week. :) already on trusty (at least on one machine so far) | 15:31 |
| doko | what about +1 maintenance this cycle? | 15:32 |
| slangasek | xnox: hmm, that bug is assigned to you, but it was assigned back in March. ;) Do you remember anything about it? | 15:32 |
| xnox | slangasek: i think i assigned it to myself as I was also affected by it at the time. | 15:34 |
| slangasek | ok | 15:34 |
| slangasek | do you recall if we had any idea at the time what to do to improve this? | 15:34 |
| xnox | slangasek: as far as I remember the solution was to either (a) ppa-purge X-swat ppa before upgrading & downgrade to release or (b) upgrade with X-swat ppa enabled, upgraded to next one | 15:34 |
| slangasek | right | 15:35 |
| xnox | slangasek: at the moment, we disable ppa and try upgrade.... which does not work. I wonder if we can do an upgrade calculation with downgrading $core packages to release first. | 15:35 |
| xnox | or at least say you have packages from these PPAs installed, would you like to get rid of them first, before upgrading? | 15:36 |
| slangasek | that seems like a fair option | 15:37 |
| slangasek | do you want to take a stab at that this next/week with bdmurray? | 15:37 |
| xnox | slangasek: ok. | 15:38 |
| slangasek | xnox: thanks | 15:38 |
| xnox | slangasek: at the latest, we can do a quirk for xorg-edgers/ppa, since it's probably so common. | 15:38 |
| slangasek | doko: +1 maintenance> I will bring that up with the engineering managers next week at the client sprint | 15:38 |
| * xnox "latest?!" i mean "at least" | 15:38 | |
| doko | slangasek, I'll visit you on Friday ;) | 15:39 |
| slangasek | doko: heh | 15:39 |
| slangasek | doko: you mean you're not coming to the every-DD-in-the-Bay beering on Wednesday? :) | 15:39 |
| doko | so tell me when the party starts ... | 15:39 |
| doko | slangasek, no it's the evening for the toolchain working group wine and cheese party =) | 15:40 |
| slangasek | hah | 15:40 |
| slangasek | priorities | 15:40 |
| slangasek | ok - anything else? | 15:40 |
| slangasek | #endmeeting | 15:41 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ||
| meetingology | Meeting ended Thu Oct 24 15:41:33 2013 UTC. | 15:41 |
| meetingology | Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-10-24-15.06.moin.txt | 15:41 |
| meetingology | Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-10-24-15.06.html | 15:41 |
| slangasek | thanks, folks :) | 15:41 |
| barry | thanks! | 15:41 |
| stgraber | thanks! | 15:41 |
| jodh | thanks! | 15:41 |
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